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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,720 Police knew that there was a violent incident in the car. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,760 There were no witnesses. They had a young man who was at death's door. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,880 Brian was flashing a lot of money. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 He was making that money by selling crack in DC. 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,320 I had no idea until after my son got stabbed. 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,880 Could have been a robber or an unsatisfied customer. 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,120 Everybody in the area is a suspect. 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,480 Investigators get a message from a former informant. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,680 Police want to follow up with more questions. 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,960 He's running. We need to track him down. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,680 I will find out who did this to you and bring them to justice. 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Brian got into his car unharmed. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,080 Who did Brian open the door to? 14 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Laurel, Maryland, is kind of a unique area. 15 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,480 {\an8}It sits between Washington, DC and Baltimore. 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Laurel is right in the middle of where these counties intersect. 17 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,880 It's a working community. The population is, I believe, 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,600 {\an8}around 22, 23,000. 19 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,800 {\an8}Well, Laurel, to me, was a welcoming community. 20 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:27,520 I moved from DC 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,880 because DC, at that time, was unsafe just walking home. 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,560 So, I decided to move to Laurel so that my kids could play freely. 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,120 They could go out and enjoy life. 24 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,880 It's not known as a high-crime area. 25 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,040 So, when there is a serious crime, 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,000 it catches the attention of the people in the area. 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,240 On September 15th, 2005, at approximately 11:30pm, 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Laurel Police received a 911 call 29 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,720 in reference to a singular vehicle accident at the top of West Street 30 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,720 near the intersection of Sandy Spring Road. 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,440 The caller described the vehicle as a black Cadillac sedan 32 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,320 and it had hit a wooden sign and the driver was motionless in the car. 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 As the police arrived on scene, 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,960 they believed at that moment it was just a car accident. 35 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,360 They saw that the victim was bleeding from the chest. 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,080 They were unable to get into the car because the doors were locked. 37 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Eventually the driver was able to unlock the door 38 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,800 so they could gain access. 39 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Once the paramedics started to work on him, 40 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,400 they were able to find that he had been stabbed in the chest. 41 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,640 It was obviously a very grizzly and very dangerous situation. 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,960 There was a lot of bleeding in the car, on the clothing of the victim, 43 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,160 and the police needed to get him to the hospital quickly. 44 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,920 It was critical enough he needed to be rushed to the trauma centre. 45 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,960 At this point, the police knew that there was 46 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,240 a violent incident in the car. 47 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,400 There were no witnesses to what had happened, 48 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,800 and the police, when they searched the car, found no weapons. 49 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,480 And they had a young man who was literally at death's door. 50 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,840 The victim was identified through his Maryland driver's licence 51 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 as 20-year-old Brian Moses. 52 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Brian was born on June 12th, 1985. 53 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 He was a joyful kid. 54 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Always clowning, always performing. 55 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Always laughing, joking, making people laugh. 56 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,640 He was just a good spirit. 57 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Brian was still in high school because he was a IEP student - 58 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,920 that's an individual education student. 59 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,080 He had a reading deficit 60 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,840 and I was very adamant about him not dropping out of school. 61 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,920 When the police officer knocked on the door 62 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,120 and he told me that my son had been stabbed, 63 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:26,800 I dropped to my knees. I prayed. 64 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,480 I prayed to my God that my son would be OK. 65 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:36,680 He told me he was already in surgery, 66 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:41,760 but he had no idea that it was as severe as it was. 67 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:46,000 Once Brian Moses arrives at the hospital, 68 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,840 they determine he'd lost a significant amount of blood. 69 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,640 X-rays revealed that one of his lungs are collapsed 70 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 and he has a 50-50 chance of survival. 71 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,880 The victim was eventually put on life support, 72 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,840 so he was unconscious, 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 and the family nor investigators 74 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,640 could speak to the victim at that time. 75 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,920 I never asked him who did that to him 76 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,480 because my concern was just to let him know 77 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,640 that I was there and I loved him. 78 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,400 He really couldn't talk, but he could squeeze my hand. 79 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,400 He was still smiling at me. "That's my mom, she's here." 80 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,720 I would go to that hospital and stay until, like, ten o'clock at night. 81 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,040 But I knew with all the equipment and all the machines and everything 82 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,440 that he was hooked up to, it was very serious. 83 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,240 At the hospital, police learned from Shirley Bell, 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,840 the mother of Brian, that she last saw him that evening at 10:30. 85 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,120 And that she has no knowledge what happened after that. 86 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:48,040 I had no idea. None. 87 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,120 Shirley Bell informs the police 88 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:54,920 that her son had been hanging out in The Grove a lot more lately, 89 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,280 and police officers began to canvass the area 90 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,160 to speak to witnesses. 91 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 The Grove is a local term known for this community 92 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,720 where there was a lot of drug activity at that time, 93 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,960 and Brian had been selling narcotics to make money. 94 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,520 I was totally shocked. 95 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,760 That was a side of Brian that I knew nothing about. 96 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,200 He was a different person out there in that street. 97 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Cos when he came home, he was just my little Brian. 98 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,840 I had no idea of any of it until after my son got stabbed. 99 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,960 {\an8}Investigating any violent crime where it's ultimately revealed 100 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,600 {\an8}that the victim was leading something of a double life 101 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,600 can be very problematic for investigators 102 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,800 because the typical people they would go to 103 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,840 to gather background information, 104 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,080 to get the victim's routine down, 105 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,480 to explain how they ended up in this situation, 106 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,080 they're blind to what is actually going on. 107 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,720 What compounds the problems for investigators in this case 108 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,800 is that the second secret double life being led by the victim 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,960 is an illicit life, a life of crime. 110 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,960 The people in that world 111 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,960 aren't going to be forthcoming with police who are seeking information. 112 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,440 So, you really have this collision of two worlds 113 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,000 where investigators are left trying to fill in the blanks. 114 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Brian Moses was flashing a lot of money. 115 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,160 When asked about the money, 116 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Moses had stated he was making that money by selling crack in DC. 117 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,000 It might make you a lot of money at first, but it's very dangerous. 118 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Could have been a robber who thought he had a lot of cash on him. 119 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Or it could have been an unsatisfied customer. 120 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,960 At this time, everybody in The Grove, 121 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,720 in the area of where this incident occurred, is a suspect. 122 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,000 In a case like this, 123 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,920 getting people to come forward is very difficult. 124 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,640 There's, you know, people who don't trust or are afraid of the police 125 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,560 because what they're doing - 126 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 not the police, but what they themselves are doing - 127 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,640 might be some sort of criminal activity. 128 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,960 So, it's kind of a natural human impulse 129 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,520 to just not volunteer any information. 130 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,240 That word "snitch" - 131 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,080 people yell, "I'm not gonna snitch, I'm not gonna tell." 132 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,720 They're telling the police nothing. 133 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,120 All indications were that the assault occurred inside the car. 134 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 And the question that the police had to solve 135 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 was "Who did Brian open the door to?" 136 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Investigators get a break in the case when they find out 137 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,000 that an individual named Mateo Antonio 138 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,320 has been assaulted and taken to Howard County General Hospital. 139 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,880 When investigators interview Mateo Antonio... 140 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,480 ...he tells them that he believes he was assaulted 141 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 because of what happened to Brian Moses. 142 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,880 But he won't go into reasons why that is. 143 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Laurel Police needed to figure out what Antonio was talking about. 144 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,040 How did it fit in to the assault on Brian? 145 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Police want to follow up with more questions of Mateo Antonio. 146 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,880 They go to his house after he is released from the hospital, 147 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,240 but they can't find him. 148 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,680 Investigators learn that he works at a local steakhouse. 149 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,280 So, they sit there and do surveillance on the steakhouse, 150 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,240 waiting for him to show up. 151 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,800 He never shows up. 152 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,760 And then they learn that he got on a bus and went to North Carolina. 153 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Investigators take this as a major clue. 154 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,440 So, it's clear that Mateo Antonio left the town in a hurry. 155 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,680 Why? 156 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,680 Was he afraid of the police? Was he afraid of retaliation? 157 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,600 Was he afraid of possible involvement 158 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,360 in what happened to Brian? 159 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,640 He's running. We need to track him down. 160 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,720 Seeing the tear roll out of his eye, 161 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,200 I think that was his way to tell me, "Ma, it's time, now. 162 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,480 It's time. I'mma be OK." 163 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,720 As a mother... ...I didn't want to let him go. 164 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,600 I could tell by his eyes that, you know, 165 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,600 he was ready and I had to let him go. 166 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,480 I went downstairs to the chapel 167 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,360 and I said to God, "It's your will." 168 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 And when I went back upstairs 169 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,800 and said my goodbyes to Brian, 170 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,200 I knew that he was at peace. 171 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,320 October 9th, 2005... 172 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:08,600 ...investigators learn that Brian Moses has died 173 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,720 and the investigation now has turned into a homicide investigation. 174 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,400 And I said to him, 175 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:17,240 "I will find out who did this to you 176 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,760 and bring them to justice." 177 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,000 You know, and I made that promise to him. 178 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,560 On November 6th, 2005, 179 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,040 investigators get a message left on the tip line 180 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,800 from a former informant 181 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,080 for their narcotics officers identified as TI. 182 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Investigators learn from TI that he received information 183 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,600 from a friend in The Grove 184 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 that Darryll Rodgers, known as DR, 185 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,480 had stabbed somebody in The Grove. 186 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,320 So, they need to chase down Darryll Rodgers immediately 187 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,560 because they believe he could be the prime suspect in this investigation. 188 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Darryll Rodgers is known to police, 189 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,720 not for anything major, but petty crimes. 190 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Brian Moses would hang out 191 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,960 with Darryll Rodgers' cousins or nephews 192 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,160 in The Grove area, 193 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,200 They also learned that Darryll Rodgers 194 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,120 had gone and visited Shirley Bell 195 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,400 shortly after Brian Moses has been stabbed. 196 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,800 Darryll Rodgers came to the house. 197 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,800 I was very suspicious. 198 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,000 I mean, you know, I don't know this guy. 199 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,440 So I opened the door and he said to me, "Miss... 200 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,600 ...I didn't do this to your son and I'm sorry it happened." 201 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,760 I did not believe him. 202 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,120 I'm like, "Why come over here to apologise to me?" 203 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,120 {\an8}In February of 2006, 204 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,520 {\an8}with the help of North Carolina authorities, 205 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:13,280 we're finally able to catch up with Mateo Antonio. 206 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,720 Mateo Antonio finally tells the police 207 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,840 that he wants to be questioned about the death of Brian 208 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,160 with a polygraph. 209 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,960 A polygraph is used as a tool. 210 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,440 It kind of directs the police 211 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,160 on if they have a possible suspect or not. 212 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,160 {\an8}Polygraph instruments can be 213 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,080 {\an8}a tremendous resource for investigators 214 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,200 {\an8}in terms of eliminating people of interest. 215 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,240 If someone is willing to take a polygraph, 216 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,440 those results aren't admissible in court, 217 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,200 but it will convince police 218 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,800 whether or not they're barking up the wrong tree. 219 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,760 There's a few reasons why polygraph results 220 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 aren't admissible in criminal cases. 221 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,920 They are in some civil cases because there's a different 222 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,120 evidentiary threshold in those cases. 223 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,000 But in criminal cases the polygraph is not admissible, 224 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,200 in part because it is subjective. 225 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,920 A lot of the responses 226 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,840 are interpreted by the polygraphist. 227 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Essentially, the polygraph measures autonomic stress responses 228 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,040 to specific questions, yes or no questions, 229 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:17,600 and it relies on people having a stress response to lying. 230 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,840 But it is circumstantial really, and it is open to interpretation. 231 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,800 {\an8}I believe Antonio agreed to take the polygraph... 232 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,760 ...to eliminate himself as a possible suspect. 233 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,800 During the polygraph of Antonio, he fails. 234 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,520 There was deception indicated. 235 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,520 It did show that he was being evasive, 236 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,200 but nothing that could actually 237 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,600 implicate him in the murder of Brian. 238 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Investigators believe that Antonio 239 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,600 might not necessarily be the killer, 240 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,760 but he has information that would be useful in the investigation. 241 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Investigators have to let Antonio go. They can't hold him. 242 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Darryll Rodgers, we don't know where he is, 243 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,320 but we need to locate him because of what was learned by the informant. 244 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,600 On September 29th, 2010, investigators are finally able 245 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,560 to locate Darryll Rodgers in North Carolina, 246 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,600 and travel there to do an interview. 247 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,080 During the interview, Darryll Rodgers confirms 248 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,200 that Brian Moses was selling drugs, 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,920 but he had no issues with him at all. 250 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,680 During that interview with Darryll Rodgers, 251 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,040 they request that he take a polygraph. 252 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,280 At that point he requested an attorney, 253 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,640 and the polygraph never happened. 254 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,560 So, at this point, investigators hit a dead end 255 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,360 with Darryll Rodgers. 256 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,240 In 2010, investigators have exhausted all their leads. 257 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,440 Talking to witnesses, possible suspects, 258 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,520 they aren't learning anything new in this investigation, 259 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,840 and there's no physical evidence or forensic evidence 260 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 that can be pointed to a suspect. 261 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,680 So, at this time, the investigation goes cold. 262 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,880 I was sad because the last thing I said to Brian is, 263 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,840 "I will find out who did this to you and bring them to justice." 264 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,480 I made this promise to him, and I felt like I let my son down. 265 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,160 That's why I could not, over the years, 266 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,680 give up on finding out what happened to my child. 267 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,240 But I also did basketball tournaments 268 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,880 to just keep Brian's name out there. 269 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,160 {\an8}On the 10th anniversary of Brian's death, 270 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,280 {\an8}I did do a news interview 271 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,440 and we talked about the case, 272 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,560 and trying to plead to people to come forward to help me 273 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,440 because I've been trying so long to get that closure. 274 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:09,160 I was constantly in contact with the police department, 275 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,440 always at the police department. 276 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Always calling somebody, always meeting somebody. 277 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,280 But nothing's happening. Nobody is telling them anything. 278 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,000 I was frustrated with them 279 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,200 until Detective Cheek came on. 280 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,800 I joined the criminal investigation division... 281 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,520 ...and the Brian Moses homicide investigation is still open. 282 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,000 And I go to my sergeant at the time and I start telling him 283 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,320 it needs to be gone through with a fine-tooth comb. 284 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,160 So, as a new detective, 285 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,560 I volunteered to take on that challenge. 286 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,440 I thought, at that time, that having fresh eyes on it 287 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,480 and looking at it, may yield new information. 288 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,560 {\an8}Reopening any cold case is an arduous task. 289 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,560 {\an8}There's no standard playbook, 290 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,560 {\an8}it's going to vary case by case, 291 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,880 but typically you're going to look at the investigative chronology. 292 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,680 You're going to look at photographs, what evidence was gathered. 293 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,720 You're going to look at who was interviewed, who was screened out 294 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,240 and was that possibly an oversight. 295 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,600 You're really going to reassemble that investigation from scratch 296 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,000 and look for what was missed or what current technologies 297 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,920 can be leveraged that weren't available at the time. 298 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,440 I come to find out the mom, Shirley Bell, is very persistent. 299 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,320 She calls once a month wanting an update. 300 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,040 I had heard Shirley Bell had come to the police department, 301 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,080 so, I approach her and I said, "Let me take you to lunch." 302 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 I had never met Detective Cheek before. 303 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,440 From what I remember is we sat down, we had lunch 304 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,240 and he was always smiling, and very pleasant. 305 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,200 And he understood how I felt, and the need that was there 306 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,440 to make sure we got this closure for my family. 307 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,840 And he was dedicated to going above and beyond 308 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,200 and he assured me of that. 309 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:09,160 If I called him, he would answer right away or call me right back. 310 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,440 It's a lot to carry on cos now you have 311 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,120 the responsibility of this investigation, 312 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,760 you have a mother who wants answers. 313 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,960 Now it's been 11 years since the incident occurred, 314 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,600 and who's still around? 315 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,520 Maybe the person had died. Maybe he's incarcerated. 316 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,600 Because many of the people 317 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,480 in The Grove in 2005 weren't around anymore. 318 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,360 At the time of speaking with Shirley Bell... 319 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,320 ...I learned about Darryll Rodgers and him coming by the house, 320 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,400 and saying, "I'm sorry this happened to your son." 321 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,160 {\an8}And she was really adamant that he had something to do with it, 322 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,400 {\an8}that I should start there and look into it. 323 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,560 {\an8}There's a saying in the cold case world among investigators 324 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,240 {\an8}that more often than not, the name of the killer 325 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,800 is already in the file. 326 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Often the offender was identified and spoken to, but misclassified. 327 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,840 And the quantum of their involvement 328 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,160 was not fully understood at the time. 329 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,680 They were deemed to be a witness, a person of interest, 330 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,080 but never elevated to the level of suspect. 331 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,400 It's very rare in cold-case homicides 332 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,080 for the offender ultimately identified 333 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080 to come out of the blue, 334 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,920 to have not already been identified by police 335 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,560 and have their name in the file. 336 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,240 I can count on two hands the number of cold cases recently solved, 337 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,320 where it was someone completely unknown to police. 338 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Darryll Rodgers had started a new life in North Carolina, 339 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760 away from where he has gotten in trouble 340 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,880 throughout the years in Laurel, Maryland. 341 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,960 So, I want to travel down there and interview him. 342 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Darryll Rodgers confirms that Brian Moses was selling drugs, 343 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,040 and rumours had it that it was fake crack. 344 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,680 Fake crack is... 345 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,400 ...not real crack, obviously. 346 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,080 It could be everything from soap mixed together 347 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,040 with baby formula or flour. 348 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,400 A variety of different things. 349 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,240 For someone who's selling fake narcotics, it's very risky. 350 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,320 You're dealing with abusers of narcotics, 351 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,480 people who are addicted to drugs that want to get that high. 352 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,760 And if you sell them fake narcotics... 353 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,640 ...they're going to get upset. 354 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,040 While we talked to Darryll Rodgers, 355 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,400 I'm thinking about him as not being the suspect, 356 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,040 that he honestly had felt bad for what had happened. 357 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,440 That he was looking out for Brian Moses... 358 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,920 ...telling him not to sell crack, not to be involved with these people. 359 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,040 But he was a young kid, and he wanted to do what we wanted to do. 360 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,320 Detective Cheek called me 361 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,640 and told me about the conversation, 362 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,720 but I did not believe him in the beginning. 363 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,120 But, as time went on, 364 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,960 I realised he was sincere. It wasn't him. 365 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,480 I learned that Mateo Antonio is incarcerated in North Carolina 366 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,360 for attempted murder. 367 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,560 During the interview of Antonio... 368 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,400 ...I learned that he did associate with people in Laurel, 369 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240 specifically in The Grove. 370 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,480 He only knew of Brian Moses... 371 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,400 ...because he had bought crack cocaine from him. 372 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,480 And he did state that the crack cocaine 373 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840 that he bought from Brian Moses was, in fact, fake crack. 374 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,160 He had confronted him but it never resulted in a physical altercation. 375 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,880 I felt pretty satisfied with his statements, 376 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,320 especially because he stated this confrontation 377 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,840 happened probably a week before the stabbing of Brian Moses. 378 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,800 At this point in the investigation, 379 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960 I felt that Antonio and Darryll 380 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,680 had nothing to do with the murder of Brian Moses. 381 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,000 We really needed to rely on the public's help. 382 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,320 If they still lived in the area or had moved on, 383 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320 but we needed to rely on their help. 384 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,560 It wasn't until maybe ten years later after my son passed, 385 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,200 when I started probably working at Food Lion, 386 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,240 it's a grocery store in the city of Laurel. 387 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280 The Grove maybe two blocks down from it. 388 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,320 People started talking to me and saying, 389 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,760 "Just keep... keep... keep going, Shirley. 390 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,840 Keep going because it's gonna come out eventually." 391 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Finally, I receive a tip from an individual 392 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,880 that was there in The Grove 393 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,960 shortly before Brian Moses was stabbed, 394 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:34,760 saying that Brian Moses was last seen down in The Grove 395 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,840 with a woman named Sonja Schroeter. 396 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,480 So, I do research, use investigative tools, 397 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,480 and find that Sonja Schroeter 398 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,560 is working at a restaurant in a neighbouring city, 399 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,120 and I need to go locate her. 400 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,520 Once I get to the restaurant where she works, 401 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,320 Sonja is very surprised that the investigation is still ongoing, 402 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,640 and she explains that she doesn't live that lifestyle anymore - 403 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,840 she's cleaned up, she's gotten a new job, 404 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,760 she's the manager of this restaurant - 405 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,440 and agreed to come back to Laurel Police Department for an interview. 406 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,280 During the interview, Sonja was being very helpful and informative, 407 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,440 and providing new information that we hadn't known at the time. 408 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,400 She states she was doing Brian's hair down in The Grove, 409 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,360 and he had stated to her 410 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520 that he needed to go get money from his house so he could pay her. 411 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,680 She walks him to his car and goes to see her cousin... 412 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,320 and explains that she didn't know 413 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,880 Brian had been stabbed until later that evening. 414 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,160 {\an8}So, from Sonja Schroeter, we know that 415 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Brian got into his car unharmed. 416 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,280 He was fine. 417 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,360 He had to open the door to someone. 418 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,200 During the interview of Sonja, 419 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,800 she confirms that Mateo Antonio is there in The Grove 420 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,640 with another person identified as Michael Duvall. 421 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,720 Sonja informs me that Brian Moses... 422 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,600 ...got into a verbal altercation with Michael Duvall 423 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,240 in regards to being sold fake crack. 424 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,200 Nothing physical happens, it's all verbal. 425 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,000 And then Brian Moses leaves 426 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,160 and is walked to his car by Sonja 427 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,360 before he drives up the street. 428 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,560 After the interview, I went back and looked through the case files again, 429 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,680 and find that Michael Duvall's name had popped up, 430 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,120 but just been overlooked. 431 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,840 Three months after Brian Moses was stabbed, 432 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,160 Michael Duvall was arrested for the murder of another individual. 433 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,960 In that incident, Michael Duvall used a knife. 434 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:06,000 Michael Duvall had been convicted of a first-degree assault 435 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,120 and he received an eight-year prison sentence back in 2008. 436 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960 He was now out in 2016. 437 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640 During the investigation, I located the knife that Duvall used. 438 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,920 I contacted the Maryland State Police laboratory... 439 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,760 ...and had it tested against Brian Moses' blood 440 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,240 to see if there was any of his blood still on the knife. 441 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Those results were negative. 442 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,320 But that doesn't mean that Michael Duvall didn't do it. 443 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,680 On May 30th, 2016, 444 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,120 a 911 call to the Laurel City Police 445 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,680 from a woman identified as Shannyn Hodges 446 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,000 indicates that she has information about the death of Brian Moses. 447 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,720 {\an8}During that interview, she revealed 448 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,400 that she had a domestic disturbance with Michael Duvall. 449 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560 And during that disturbance... 450 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120 ...he pulled a knife on her and said, "I'm going to kill you, 451 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,240 just like I did to that kid in Laurel." 452 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,480 {\an8}This is a substantial break in the case 453 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,360 {\an8}because this is... 454 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,920 ...information from the mouth 455 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480 of who we believe to have been the perpetrator. 456 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,400 This interview is huge. 457 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,640 I want to get going. I want to find Michael Duvall. 458 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,760 At this point in the investigation, 459 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,440 I don't interview Michael Duvall right away. 460 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,280 I set up a grand jury for Shannyn Hodges to go testify in front of 461 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,520 so we can indict Michael Duvall. 462 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,920 And she testified about what Michael Duvall did and said 463 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,880 regarding the death of Brian. 464 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,560 We needed corroboration. We just couldn't rely on one witness. 465 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,400 We wanted more. 466 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,520 So, the case was really reopened and expanded. 467 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,760 On September the 16th of 2016, 468 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,280 Detective Cheek and I decided to go down and visit Shari Baily. 469 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Her attention to detail, her understanding 470 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,320 of the importance of this case, impressed me. 471 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800 During the interview with Shari, she reveals 472 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,800 that she let Michael Duvall 473 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,920 use her car three nights prior to the murder of Brian Moses. 474 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,880 In the early mornings of September 16th, 2005, 475 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240 a couple hours after the stabbing of Brian Moses, 476 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,000 Michael Duvall returned the car belonging to Shari 477 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,640 and, at that time, he was covered in mud and dirt, 478 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600 and he had blood on his hands. 479 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440 And Shari asked what had happened. 480 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,640 At first he told Shari that he was jumped 481 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,000 and had an altercation with others. 482 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880 But he came off of that and basically indicated 483 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560 that he took care of someone 484 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,360 who had provided him with fake crack. 485 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,120 When he saw a funeral a few weeks later in Laurel, 486 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,720 he indicated that he was responsible for killing the kid. 487 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,560 Now with this information, 488 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,800 it solidifies Michael Duvall's involvement. 489 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360 It's putting him there at the scene of the crime. 490 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,320 And now, with his statements that he has made, 491 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,920 I'm confident that Michael Duvall is now my prime suspect. 492 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,720 Sonja - she made it clear that on that night, 493 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,480 she was braiding Brian Moses's hair. 494 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,120 In The Grove, she also saw Michael Duvall. 495 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,680 She was very clear about that. 496 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,600 Sonja revealed that she observed Michael Duvall 497 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,080 walk up the hill with a few other individuals 498 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,040 at the same time that Brian Moses was leaving. 499 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240 And, a short time later, 500 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,320 saw Michael Duvall running down the street. 501 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,840 She then later heard 502 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,640 that Brian Moses had been stabbed. 503 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Although she did not see any assaultive conduct, 504 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,280 what she saw 505 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,600 certainly supported the idea 506 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,040 that there was an encounter, a deadly encounter, up on West Street. 507 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120 During the investigation, in interview with Sonja, 508 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,960 I informed her that I would like her 509 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,080 to testify in front of the grand jury, 510 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:13,040 and she said she would co-operate with anything that I needed. 511 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,240 I'm very relieved at this point with having now three individuals 512 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,880 who are going to testify, 513 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,600 but I needed something more, like a confession, 514 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,400 because I lacked any physical or forensic evidence. 515 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,240 I need Michael Duvall to confess to me. 516 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,840 Maryland law allows us to do 517 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,360 a one-party consent recording of a conversation. 518 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,200 We wanted to get incriminating statements from Michael Duvall 519 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,760 during the course of a conversation with his former girlfriend. 520 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,200 {\an8}One-party consent recordings, the law varies by state, 521 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,360 {\an8}but when it is permissible, it means 522 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880 that calls or conversations or communications 523 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,440 can be surreptitiously audio recorded, 524 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,520 so long as one member of that conversation, 525 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,760 whether it's two people or 22 people, consents. 526 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,000 Typically, it's the person naturally doing the recording. 527 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,320 The caveat for one-party consent recordings is that the state, 528 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,840 the police, cannot provide that consent. 529 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,760 It needs to be a citizen either acting of their own volition 530 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,680 or, in some cases, acting as an agent for police 531 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,160 and taking direction to make the call and record it. 532 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,480 But police using an intermediary or an agent 533 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,960 to conduct a one-party consent recording is fraught with risk. 534 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,680 This is not a professional investigator 535 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,840 who knows how to nuance the questions, 536 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,200 and they may end up tipping off the suspect. 537 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,840 We asked Shari Baily if she would feel comfortable 538 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,800 letting us record a phone call... 539 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,680 ...where she could get Michael Duvall 540 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,040 to talk about what happened back in 2005. 541 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,080 On December 7th, Detective Cheek and Shari Baily 542 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,600 came to the Prince George's County Police homicide division, 543 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,000 where there was equipment that could be utilised to record a phone call. 544 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,680 During the one-party consent call... 545 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,720 {\an8}...Michael Duvall answers, 546 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680 and she has the ruse of saying 547 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,320 that she needs to have her record clean 548 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,160 so she can get work at the nearby stadium. 549 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,000 She says she's afraid they're going to question her again 550 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,000 in regards to Brian Moses' murder and what she knows. 551 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,480 During that call, Michael Duvall tells Shari 552 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,120 not to say anything to police, don't co-operate. 553 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,480 He's admitting to at once having the knife, 554 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,880 but now he's gotten rid of it, 555 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,240 and also not to co-operate with police. 556 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,720 We believe this is enough to go in front of the jury with, 557 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,040 and I'm excited and knew that, all right, we've got him. 558 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,760 {\an8}Based upon everything that we had gathered, 559 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,360 we went to the grand jury and got an indictment. 560 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,520 We got an arrest warrant based on the indictment, 561 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,640 and police were able to take him into custody... 562 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120 ...in January of 2017. 563 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,320 {\an8}Detective Cheek called me 564 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,360 and told me about Michael Duvall. 565 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,840 That he had stabbed somebody else in DC. 566 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,880 And the first thing that went through my mind is 567 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200 if we had gotten him years ago, 568 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,120 then he would have not been on the street stabbing somebody else. 569 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,080 Then I was relieved that finally, after all this time, 570 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,120 I'm getting some kind of closure 571 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,400 to what happened to my son and who did it. 572 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560 Once Michael Duvall was arrested 573 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:51,640 and transported to the Maryland jail, I visit him. 574 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,320 As soon as I opened the door, he says, "I'm not talking to you." 575 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,400 I said, "I'm just here because I want you to know 576 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,720 I'm the one that caught you." And then I walked out. 577 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,280 And it was a sense of relief that I have taken this case 578 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,440 that had gone cold and now I have a suspect who's been incarcerated 579 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920 that's going to face a judge and jury. 580 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,640 The first trial was a hung jury. 581 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,360 They did a mistrial, which upset me more than anything. 582 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,280 {\an8}Hung juries are, fortunately, relatively rare in murder cases. 583 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,080 {\an8}The judge will typically work with the jury foreperson 584 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,520 and the jury as a group, 585 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,080 in order to get them to find some kind of middle ground 586 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:38,400 that they can agree on and have them keep going back and deliberating. 587 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,400 Hung juries are not only stressful on the investigators 588 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,920 but also, naturally, on the family of the victim. 589 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,080 They know full well that, number one, 590 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,320 they haven't had a resolution, there hasn't been justice in their mind, 591 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,720 and they know they're probably going to have to do this again 592 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,520 and be revictimised once more. 593 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,320 Based upon the testimony of the witnesses 594 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920 and the telephone calls, we were able to... 595 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960 ...come up with the truth 596 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,040 as to what happened to Brian Moses that evening. 597 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,160 This whole episode begins with Brian Moses 598 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,560 deciding he wants to make some quick money. 599 00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:22,080 Brian Moses decided 600 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:27,000 to sell fake crack to individuals, 601 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,040 one of which was Michael Duvall. 602 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,640 The night of his stabbing, he was in The Grove in Laurel. 603 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,360 He was with Sonja Schroeter, with her for a while, 604 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,960 got into his car to drive away. 605 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,960 Once Brian leaves The Grove, he drives up West Street, 606 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,960 out of the sight of the other people hanging out. 607 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,560 He's flagged over by Michael Duvall. 608 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,080 Brian Moses opened the car door 609 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,720 for Michael Duvall. 610 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,080 Michael then produces a knife 611 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,040 and stabs Brian Moses in the left side of his chest, 612 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,120 and flees the vehicle. 613 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,960 Brian Moses then attempts to drive away but is severely injured, 614 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,880 which causes him to crash his car, prompting the 911 call. 615 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080 He's rushed to the hospital... 616 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,360 ...but ultimately succumbs to his injuries three weeks later. 617 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,000 It's the worst nightmare for any mother. 618 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,120 I lost my child over $10 619 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,520 and to a person that was old enough to be his father. 620 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,520 Michael Duvall received 30 years for this murder, 621 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,520 and I was ecstatic. 622 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,840 I was happy for the family, I was happy for the city, 623 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,640 the police department, 624 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,720 that this crime that shook our community in 2005 625 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,280 was now closed. 626 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,280 Shirley Bell was great in this investigation. 627 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,600 She was relentless. 628 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,720 She even helped form a Crime Stoppers with the city of Laurel 629 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,640 to help other victims. 630 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,760 We stayed in constant contact and, even to this day, we'll talk. 631 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,880 I did feel like that my son's case 632 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,160 should not have taken 16 years 633 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,040 to get... to start getting closure, 634 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,320 but I was satisfied with the verdict. 635 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:39,160 It was a relief for me to know that I have finally got closure 636 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,240 and I was able to keep my promise to my child. 637 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,640 I want people to remember the Brian I know, 638 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,400 who always was making people smile, 639 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,800 laughing, acting silly, 640 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960 and had a heart of gold. 641 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,960 He was a sweetheart. Brian was a sweetheart. 642 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,960 {\an8}Subtitles by Sky Access Services 54417

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