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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Around 3 pm, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,360 Diane gets a knock on the door. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,440 She lets this person in, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,920 and she is attacked. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,320 We have a man running around 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,760 talking his way into women's homes. 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,160 He seemed to... 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,800 ...worship the ground she walks on. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,360 They had broken up, made up, broken up. 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Maybe this was... 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,720 ..."If I can't have you, nobody can." 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,960 During sex, he would strangle her. 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,560 We were able to find pictures of hands around throats, 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,600 strings around throats. 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,720 We need to get him off the street 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,440 so we don't have another victim. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,960 You never know who's knocking on the door. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,160 In 2001, Austin, Texas was a rapidly growing city. 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,960 Multiple high-tech companies 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,520 have moved into the area. 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,200 You had Dell coming up. 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,600 IBM was big. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,480 You had... Applied Materials was big. 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,280 It was starting to get that reputation as a... 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,600 ...mini Silicon Valley. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Great Hills is in Northwest Austin 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,600 and it would be considered 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,760 a higher income neighbourhood, very safe. 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Diane Holik is 43 years old and she lives in a house 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,400 in the Great Hills area. 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,040 Diane is an IBM executive 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,760 and had been with the company 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,640 for at least 20 years. 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,280 She has two dogs, 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Rocky and Baylor. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,440 She has a great base of friends 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,800 that love her and love hanging out with her. 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,280 She is engaged to be married to a man named Dennis Conley 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,800 and they were going to be moving to Houston, 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,120 so Diane is selling her home. 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,680 The Austin market right now isn't in very good shape. 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,400 A lot of people are putting their homes up for sale 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,240 and they're not moving. 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Diane happens to be 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,800 suffering from that issue as well. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960 On the afternoon of November 15th, 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Diane is working from home. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,360 And she had a conversation with a coworker named Cynthia Barajas. 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,880 She told Cynthia 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,320 that she was very excited because a man had come to the home 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,280 wanting to purchase her home 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,440 for cash. 53 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,000 He told her that he was from Bastrop, 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,760 which is a town 55 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:53,200 outside of Austin, about 25 miles. 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,800 The man told Diane that he'd be back later 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,560 with his wife so that they could take a tour of the house. 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,480 Cynthia was very concerned that Diane 59 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:13,840 had let a stranger into her home. 60 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,920 And she told her, "You need to be careful about doing that." 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,400 "You never know 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,200 who's knocking on the door." 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,040 That afternoon, a violent thunderstorm 64 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,600 moved into Austin. 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Diane told Cynthia she needed to get off the phone 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,520 so that she could batten down the hatches of her house. 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 She ended her call with Cynthia at 1:30. 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Around 3:00 pm, 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,000 Diane gets a knock on the door. 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,120 And she lets this person in. 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,880 After Diane lets this person in, 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,200 she is attacked. 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,120 By the next day, the storm had cleared 74 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:21,800 and Diane was supposed to have a IBM Zoom call 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,440 with Cynthia Barajas. 76 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,560 When Diane did not show up 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,480 on the Zoom call, Cynthia became concerned that maybe 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 something happened to Diane during the storm. 79 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,480 She called the home several times. 80 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,120 When she could not get in touch with Diane 81 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:43,040 she decided to call the Austin Police Department 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,360 to conduct a welfare check. 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Police arrived at Diane's house but nobody answered the door. 84 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,800 Lakki Brown, who is a neighbour and happens to be 85 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,040 the realtor selling Diane's home, 86 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000 walks down to inquire what's going on. 87 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,920 Police tell her that they're checking on her welfare 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,960 because employees are concerned. 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 So, she gives them a key. 90 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,120 When the police make entry into Diane's home, 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,880 they find her two beloved dogs, 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,720 Rocky and Baylor in extreme distress. 93 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,800 They found a lot of faecal matter and urine 94 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,000 all over the carpets. 95 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,040 The master bedroom was on the bottom floor. 96 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,560 They look around that part of the house, 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,920 didn't find anything. 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,480 They go up the stairs... 99 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,560 ...and in searching one of the spare bedrooms, 100 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,240 on the other side of the bed, 101 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,120 that's where he found the body. 102 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,200 When the officers realised that it was a potential homicide, 103 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,520 they called our detective who was 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,800 on duty at the homicide office. 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,840 And he's actually the one that called myself 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,080 and Detective De Los Santos to respond. 107 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,160 We arrived at the scene 108 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,760 and went inside. 109 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,560 My initial observation was the house was 110 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,360 immaculately clean. Everything was in place. 111 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,520 It didn't seem like there had been any kind of 112 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,200 violent disturbance in the house. 113 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,080 And because her house was so clean 114 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,400 and organised, we thought it was very odd 115 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,720 that there was a towel 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,880 just draped over the couch. 117 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,120 It seemed very out of place. 118 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:36,160 We then went upstairs to the spare bedroom. 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,760 I walked into the bedroom 120 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,960 and I saw Diane's body. 121 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,440 It looks exactly like someone tried to push 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,560 most of her body underneath the bed, 123 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,240 but Diane was small. 124 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,520 She wasn't that small. 125 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,520 They then slid the bed cover over her to try to hide her. 126 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,400 One of the things that immediately struck me 127 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,320 was a red ligature mark that went around her neck. 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,480 This indicated to me that she had been strangled. 129 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,160 The other thing that I didn't notice, 130 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,440 and usually do in these types of cases, 131 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,680 is defensive marks that are on the neck. 132 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,240 When someone is trying to pull the ligature away, 133 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,760 sometimes they cut themselves with their fingernails. 134 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,880 There was no injury present, 135 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,280 which was odd. 136 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,320 As I moved further down her body, 137 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,920 I looked at her wrist and saw 138 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,400 that she had red linear lines on both of them. 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,840 On closer inspection, I saw perpendicular spaces 140 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,800 between the two parallel lines. 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,400 And these reminded me of zip ties. 142 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,200 So, I figured that she had been... 143 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,440 ...tied up before she was strangled, 144 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,160 and that's why there were no defensive marks. 145 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,360 She was already in rigor mortis, 146 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,760 and she was starting to get some of that... 147 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,600 ...bruising that you get 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 as your body decomposes. And so, we knew 149 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,120 that she had been strangled 12... 150 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,040 ...possibly 24 hours earlier. 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,480 We had no reason to believe that she'd been sexually assaulted 152 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,040 because she was still fully clothed. 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 We had a discussion with Lakki Brown 154 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,480 because she was concerned and 155 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,960 asked us if we had found Diane's ring? 156 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,760 She said that was a massive ring. 157 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,880 She thought it was about 20,000 dollars, and that 158 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,840 if it was missing that maybe that could have been the motive. 159 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,320 But we never found that ring. The potential for this 160 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,040 to have been a robbery gone bad 161 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,080 was definitely in the forethought of our minds 162 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,920 because we couldn't find the ring. 163 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,120 When we realised that there was no forced entry into the house, 164 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,080 we thought that Diane either knew them or felt comfortable enough 165 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,840 to open the door for this person. 166 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,480 There appeared to be black mascara and makeup 167 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,560 on a portion of the carpet, 168 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,360 which to me, said Diane was face down at one point 169 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,040 in this area. 170 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,720 It indicated to me that yes, she was definitely moved. 171 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,880 And that's what really concerned me, 172 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,960 that this killer is comfortable 173 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,960 putting his hands on her after she's dead, 174 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,800 and then staging her body. 175 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,720 To me, this is a killer who, 176 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,280 this isn't his first time. 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 He may have done this before 178 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,920 because he cleaned up that crime scene. 179 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,520 We didn't find a lot of fingerprint evidence. 180 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,360 It appeared that the house may have been wiped down, 181 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,280 and that the attacker had gone to great lengths to cover their tracks. 182 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,480 When investigators discover that elaborate efforts 183 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,480 have been undertaken by the suspect to clean the crime scene, 184 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,160 they have to start wondering whether 185 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,680 there's significant premeditation 186 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,880 in this case. 187 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,080 Somebody who is confident enough in remaining at the scene 188 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,000 for a prolonged period after the murder, 189 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,520 which carries with it additional risks of introducing new evidence. 190 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,320 I mean, there's fibres and cells that are constantly falling 191 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,720 off the body, so, to remain there, this will... 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,800 ...communicate to investigators that this person 193 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,760 has thought this through and thinks they're smarter than police. 194 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,080 After interviewing her friends and family, 195 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,800 we realised that Diane was this gregarious, 196 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,800 successful, fun-loving woman... 197 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,000 who liked to throw parties, liked to hang out with her friends. 198 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,520 But once Diane turned 40, her friends said that 199 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,120 she decided that she wanted to settle down, 200 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,920 maybe raise a family. 201 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,040 She actually signed up for a couple of dating websites. 202 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,360 One of them was called "It's Just Lunch" 203 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,680 and I believe that's where she met Dennis Conley. 204 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,640 Dennis Conley is a divorced father of two 205 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,640 and a successful businessman. 206 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Within a few months, the two are engaged. 207 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,880 When we were in the house, 208 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,840 we noticed that there was an answering machine 209 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,640 and it was blinking. 210 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,480 We listened to all the messages, and almost all of them were from Dennis. 211 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Some of them were concerned, like, "Where are you at?" 212 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Because Diane was supposed to have gone 213 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,960 to Houston to be with him for the weekend. 214 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,680 By the second day, he was 215 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,440 pretty distraught and angry that she hadn't called him back. 216 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,360 He just was like, "What is going on?" 217 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,280 "I don't understand what's happening, 218 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,360 and you need to call me back." 219 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,120 When we talked to Diane's friends about Dennis, 220 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,200 many of them were not eager for them to get married. 221 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,320 They felt like he was very controlling and I don't think 222 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,720 they thought that the marriage was going to last. 223 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,360 And apparently she was 224 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,080 vacillating as to whether she really wanted to marry him or not. 225 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,640 They had broken up, made up, broken up. 226 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,600 In talking with two of Diane's friends, they told me that 227 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,760 Diane had reactivated her dating service app 228 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,840 and had gone out with a couple of other men. 229 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,800 One friend told me that the Thursday before... 230 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,960 ...that she had had a date from somebody that she had met 231 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,640 on the internet. 232 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,640 Is it possible that Dennis Conley found out 233 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,600 and was upset about it? 234 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Is it possible that Dennis 235 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,320 was the one she opened the door for? 236 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,280 I called Dennis Conley 237 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,280 from the house. He's not there, 238 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,800 but I speak to his roommate, 239 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,240 and I tell the roommate that Diane 240 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,600 was deceased and that we needed to have Dennis call us. 241 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Dennis called us back pretty quick 242 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,080 and told us he was already on his way to Austin. 243 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,920 So, we agreed that 244 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,680 we would meet him at the police station for an interview. 245 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,640 When I get him in the interview room, 246 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:51,040 {\an8}he seems very distraught about Diane, very upset. 247 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,400 {\an8}But he also came across as more concerned 248 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:56,360 about his own feelings and how he was going to be dealing with this, 249 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,040 than he really was with what happened to Diane. 250 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,200 {\an8}Conley admitted to me that their relationship 251 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,280 did have rough patches. 252 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,560 At one point, they ended their engagement 253 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,560 and did some couple's therapy. 254 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Finally, they decided that they were gonna get married, 255 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,640 and Diane made the decision to sell her home. 256 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,200 Dennis claimed that he was in Houston at the time of the murder. 257 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,360 He had a major presentation to give 258 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,800 the following morning, so, 259 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,080 he had been working all night on that presentation. 260 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,600 But it was not out of the realm of possibility that 261 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Dennis could have driven to Austin... 262 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,880 ...come to Diane's home... 263 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,720 ...murdered her, 264 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,200 and driven back, 265 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,000 as it's only a two-and-a-half-hour drive. 266 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,680 We asked him if he would voluntarily give us a sample of his hair 267 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,920 and a sample of his DNAs. 268 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,960 And he volunteered to do it. 269 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,280 We did test his DNA 270 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,920 against DNA that we collected at the crime scene, 271 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,720 and he was not a match for any of it. 272 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,360 I attend the autopsy, 273 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,080 and we were able to look at those ligatures around her wrists... 274 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,240 ...pretty closely. 275 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,840 We're able to actually measure the distance between 276 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,600 the linear marks that are on there, 277 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,840 and that's when we determined that those were zip ties 278 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,680 of some sort that were around her wrist. 279 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,440 But because we didn't find anything in the house that even 280 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,600 resembled those zip ties, 281 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,120 we knew that the perpetrator must have 282 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,280 taken those with him. 283 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,520 The autopsy is really the linchpin of most 284 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,680 effective homicide investigations. 285 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,040 There's significant data 286 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,560 that can be gleaned from that, 287 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:53,800 that will send investigators 288 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,000 in a particular direction. 289 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,320 Approximate time of death, cause of death, stomach contents, 290 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,920 toxicology. You know, 291 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,920 was this person consuming drugs or alcohol? 292 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,080 And that perhaps changes the circumstances. 293 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,760 All kinds of things that will really guide them into where to go next. 294 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,480 At the autopsy we learned she was 295 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,440 definitely murdered by strangulation. 296 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,400 It looked like... the angle of the ligature mark 297 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,600 would've been somebody that was taller than her 298 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,560 as it went kind of up... 299 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,160 ...and behind her. 300 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,880 And that ligature mark was very, very deep, 301 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,280 so, it would've been a lot of force used to actually strangle her. 302 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,680 The time of death is estimated to be between 303 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 3:00 pm on November 15th 304 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 and 3:00 am on November 16th. 305 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,400 On November 15th, Dennis Conley went to dinner, 306 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 apparently, with his roommate and a neighbour, 307 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,760 a friend of his, 308 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,160 and was able to provide us with the receipts for that. 309 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,520 And then we went back and we also corroborated that 310 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,200 those two individuals did actually have dinner with him that night. 311 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:11,320 {\an8}At this point we were able to pretty much clear Dennis 312 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,640 {\an8}as a suspect in this murder. 313 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,640 But when we were trying to figure out 314 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,440 who might want to hurt Diane, 315 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,720 he really didn't know, 316 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,840 but he did offer up a name 317 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,720 of somebody that was very attracted to Diane, 318 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,920 that he thought we should start looking at. 319 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:54,160 Ray was hired by Diane a few years earlier 320 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,200 and worked with her at IBM. 321 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:59,080 When we talked to the people 322 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,680 that know him, we know that Ray was... 323 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,360 He was really just in love with Diane. 324 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,600 He was willing to do anything for her that she asked. 325 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,360 Ray was the person who always took care of Diane's dogs 326 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,400 when she was out of town and went to Houston, 327 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,280 because Dennis didn't like the dogs at the house. 328 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Ray actually showed up at the house 329 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,840 while we were working the crime scene. 330 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,280 He was distraught about the dogs. 331 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,040 I mean, he legitimately was distraught about the dogs 332 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,400 having been stuck in the house. 333 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,360 We pulled Ray in to see if maybe this was... 334 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,720 ...a jealousy issue or 335 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,640 if "I can't have you, nobody can" type of thing. 336 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,800 When we get Ray into the interview room... 337 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,320 ...he's almost jovial and 338 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 super eager to please. He's like, "I want to help you solve this." 339 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:54,680 "I want to help you solve this." 340 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,280 And I'm like, "Well, I want you to help me to solve this, too." 341 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,840 {\an8}It was very odd the way he acted. 342 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,760 {\an8}I think he was overzealous to help us, 343 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,800 which a lot of times that means 344 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,240 you're inserting yourself in an investigation because 345 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,160 you want to know what we know if we catch you. 346 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,400 And that's when we kind of focused in on Ray. 347 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,360 He told us that he had known Diane for two years, 348 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,640 but he hadn't spoken with her in the last two weeks. 349 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,520 He made it clear that he definitely had feelings for Diane 350 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,080 and would have dated her in a heartbeat, 351 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,520 but because she didn't feel the same way, 352 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,960 they kinda had a falling out the month before. 353 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,800 But he was still willing to care for her dogs because 354 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,200 he loved the dogs. 355 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,920 So, she continued to give him a key to her home 356 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:48,280 and allowed him to care for the dogs while she was out of town. 357 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,400 {\an8}We asked Ray about his whereabouts when we thought 358 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,320 {\an8}the murder might have happened, 359 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,120 {\an8}and he told us that 360 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,960 he was at work, and that 361 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,760 we should be able to get his key card information 362 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,440 through IBM, which we did, 363 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,400 and it shows that he was actually at work 364 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,000 during when we suspected the murder happened. 365 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Ray was willing to give us a sample of his hair and his DNA. 366 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040 When we did the comparison, we were unable to find 367 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,880 a match for Ray's DNA 368 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,960 with anything at the crime scene. 369 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,760 Ray is no longer a suspect. 370 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:30,840 When we realised that 371 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,440 Diane had actually met Dennis through "It's Just Lunch," 372 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,520 we called "It's Just Lunch" 373 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,120 and tried to get the information on anybody that Diane 374 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,880 had met through that organisation. 375 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,360 We really are 376 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760 living in an age of ubiquitous surveillance, 377 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,240 to the extent that 378 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,760 all homicide investigations now have 379 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,040 a tech component that involves cell phone activity, 380 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,760 internet browser history, 381 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,720 and other technical clues 382 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,480 that will really provide police 383 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,320 the laser focus that they need. 384 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,640 But "It's Just Lunch" was not eager to help us 385 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,720 because it's supposed to be an anonymous site. 386 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,440 We were forced to get a subpoena. 387 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,600 And then I was given all the names of the people that 388 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Diane had actually had lunch with. 389 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,200 I contacted each and every one of them... 390 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,400 ...and basically was able to eliminate them also as suspects. 391 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,960 As effective as technology can be, 392 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:39,040 it's imperative that police still speak to flesh and blood neighbours. 393 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,680 Traditional police canvassing, going door-to-door, 394 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,160 asking the usual questions, "Did you see or hear anything suspicious?" 395 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 "Has there been a car parked on the street lately 396 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,960 that you found untoward?" 397 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:55,600 "Have you seen your neighbour in recent days?" 398 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,280 I love doing canvassing. 399 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,720 It can produce so many great leads, 400 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,960 so much good information. 401 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,000 Sometimes an underutilised asset. 402 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,320 I wanted to go and talk with every neighbour I could find and see 403 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,800 if they had seen anything, if they had had any strange people 404 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,440 come knocking on their doors, 405 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,240 anything that was unusual that would stick out. 406 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,360 I came across 407 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280 two or three different ladies that 408 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,920 relayed to me a story of a man 409 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,720 looking to buy a home in the area 410 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,800 for him and his wife. 411 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Didn't have a realtor 412 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,120 but he had cash to buy. 413 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,000 This man 414 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,960 also may have visited Diane. 415 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Same story, was in the house, 416 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,520 told her he wanted to buy. 417 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,240 So, now our interest has really piqued. 418 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,840 Who is this man? 419 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,160 We became concerned that 420 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,640 now we have a stranger that's in this neighbourhood 421 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,560 and is possibly attacking women. 422 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Well... 423 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,720 We thought, "Well, we need to figure out who this is quickly." 424 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,200 That's how we moved forward 425 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,440 with a sketch artist. 426 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960 The description of the suspect that all the women gave 427 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,440 was more-or-less the same, 428 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,240 that he was a larger kind of guy, 429 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,640 stocky, 430 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,280 muscular. 431 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Police sketches are still used 432 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,960 and there are some well-documented cases 433 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,640 of them being very effective. 434 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,880 The idea is to get as many eyeballs as possible on that. 435 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,560 {\an8}Have you seen this person? 436 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,000 {\an8}Do you know who this person is? 437 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,680 It's one of the oldest tricks in the book, 438 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,920 but it's still in the book 439 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,240 because it works. 440 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,400 {\an8}We immediately put that out 441 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,320 {\an8}and we got a call from a real-estate agent 442 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,160 named Melody Blount. 443 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,760 She met with a man that she said matched his description. 444 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,080 She did take him to see a couple homes, 445 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,800 but she thought it was odd that 446 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840 he only wanted to see vacant homes. 447 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,360 She said, when they went inside, I felt like he was never really 448 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,960 interested in the home. 449 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,840 He just kinda wandered around, looked out the windows, 450 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,680 and always wanted to be walking behind her. 451 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,360 And that made her very uncomfortable. 452 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280 She became concerned and actually made a police report 453 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,440 to the Travis County Sheriff's Office and said, 454 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,480 "There's something wrong with this guy." 455 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,160 And basically the sheriff's department said, 456 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,800 "Well, if he hasn't committed a crime, 457 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160 we really can't do much about it." 458 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,840 I do believe he initially started with real estate agents, 459 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,840 and then when he wasn't having any luck with the real estate agents 460 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,720 decided to just go to affluent houses that 461 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,800 had signs in the front yard and see 462 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,440 if he could work his way in the house. 463 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,400 A neighbour told us that she had seen a gold van 464 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,760 with pin striping parked in Diane's driveway 465 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,800 around 5:00 pm that day. 466 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,560 A gold van with pin striping, which usually isn't noted 467 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,440 in vehicle registration, 468 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,280 that's gonna be a momentous task to find 469 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,440 without a licence plate. 470 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,680 But then we got a phone call on our tipline. 471 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 It was from a woman who believes that 472 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,120 that man had come to her home... 473 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,240 ...and told her basically the same story. 474 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,680 And he was very insistent about wanting to get into her home. 475 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,680 She asked him, "Where's your real estate agent?" 476 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400 And he tells her, "Well, you know, I'm just trying to cut out 477 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,560 the middleman. That way we can make more money on both of our ends." 478 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,800 She said, "Well, I'm not comfortable with that, 479 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960 and you need to go get a real estate agent." 480 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,800 So, he leaves. 481 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520 I think it was two or three weeks and then he actually 482 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 comes back to her house. 483 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,960 However, this time she does write down his licence plate 484 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,600 and she puts it on the refrigerator with a magnet. 485 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,400 When this story came out, she knew that was him. 486 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,080 She felt like she had the licence plate 487 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,360 to the man who was possibly Diane Holik's murderer. 488 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,560 That licence plate is what broke the case for us. 489 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,360 A check of the licence plate revealed that it was owned 490 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,880 by a person named Patrick Anthony Russo, 491 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,240 a music director at a church nearby. 492 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Russo had a criminal past. 493 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,640 In the late 80s and 90s, he had 494 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,200 several reports of attacking women. 495 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,320 One of the ladies reported 496 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,640 that when he got her alone, he strangled her. 497 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,320 One attack in Lake Jackson, 498 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,400 that included a kidnapping charge, 499 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,040 got him a prison sentence. 500 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Russo was actually given a 20-year sentence... 501 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,880 ...but while in prison, 502 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Russo found God and he is now 503 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,240 a professed born-again Christian. 504 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,120 He was paroled early for good behaviour, 505 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,600 for helping other inmates find God. 506 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,120 They felt like he had been rehabilitated from his crime. 507 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,560 We linked him to a church in Cedar Creek, 508 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,000 which is where he was living, 509 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,240 with a woman who was a volunteer at the prison 510 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,840 when he was actually in prison. 511 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,680 We obtained a search warrant to search the home and the van. 512 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 When investigators discover that Russo 513 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,800 has a significant criminal history, 514 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,200 I mean, this guy's a known felon, 515 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,040 this changes the game in terms of their approach. 516 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,960 You just don't show up at this... at this guy's house 517 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,000 with no backup and just knock on the door and hope for the best. 518 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320 They're going to have to approach this tactically, 519 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,120 in terms of officer safety and in terms of 520 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,240 ensuring that nobody else gets hurt. 521 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,160 By the time we got that search warrant 522 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,240 it was 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning. 523 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,120 We got into our cars and headed 524 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,760 to Russo's residence. 525 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,160 It was out in the country, in Bastrop. 526 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,400 This particular night there was no moon, so it was pitch black dark. 527 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,160 So, when we get to the house, we're all on guard. 528 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,880 We don't know what he's going to do, how he's going to act. 529 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,080 If he has a gun, is he gonna try to shoot us through the door? 530 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,800 It was decided that Tracy and another detective 531 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:01,480 would go to the door. 532 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,960 The rest of us sat back 533 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,840 so as not to overwhelm him. 534 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,480 It was nerve-wracking knocking on that door... 535 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,280 ...because we had no idea 536 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,640 what was on the other side. 537 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,480 Patrick Russo answers the door. 538 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,560 His wife is kind of in the background, 539 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,080 asking what's going on. 540 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,880 But before... 541 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,120 ...we could tell him anything, 542 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,040 he tells his wife, "I'm sure this has something to do 543 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120 with me being on parole or whatever." 544 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,480 We basically told him, 545 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,800 "Your name has come up in an investigation 546 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240 and we would like for you to come back to Austin 547 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,080 and discuss it with us." 548 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,640 He never said, "No, what's this about?" 549 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,840 He never asked for an attorney. 550 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,400 And then he willingly and voluntarily came with us. 551 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,120 We transported Russo back to Austin 552 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,000 while the rest of the team stayed behind and processed the scene. 553 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,520 Among the items to be seized was 554 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,000 if he had any computers, any discs, 555 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,280 those sorts of things. 556 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,280 I noticed a bundle of fencing, 557 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,920 and I noticed that the fencing was tied up with white zip ties. 558 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080 Very much like the zip ties 559 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,640 that would cause the same impressions 560 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,240 as we saw in Diane's wrist. 561 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,600 So, we definitely took those. 562 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440 We drive Russo back to our offices in Austin. 563 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,360 {\an8}We tell him that he's not under arrest and that he's free to leave. 564 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600 {\an8}Russo insisted that he has never 565 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,240 been out looking at houses. 566 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760 And when we put a photograph down 567 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,400 {\an8}of Diane in front of him, 568 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 {\an8}he adamantly denied that he had ever 569 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,520 seen her or met her. 570 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,400 When we confronted Russo about neighbours 571 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,280 in Diane's neighbourhood 572 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,920 saying that they saw his van... 573 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880 ...he changed his story a little bit. 574 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,520 He did say on the day of the storm 575 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160 that he did drive in the vicinity of Diane's house. 576 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240 And then he said it started to pour and that 577 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,840 he got lost in the neighbourhood. 578 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,440 That he was lost for about two or three hours, 579 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,000 and his wife calls him, and then he manages to find 580 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,120 his way back home to Bastrop. 581 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,080 And that was basically his story. 582 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,560 {\an8}Russo put himself in the neighbourhood. 583 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,800 We take his DNA 584 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,280 and we fingerprint him. 585 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880 We also brought Russo's wife in... 586 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,760 {\an8}...and we had a conversation with her. 587 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,960 {\an8}We learned in our conversation with her 588 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440 that he would strangle her during sex. 589 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,000 This went back for years. 590 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,680 We also interviewed his first wife who told us the same thing... 591 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800 ...that during sex, he would strangle her. 592 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Investigators are aware that they're dealing with a... 593 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,400 ...sexually disordered, fetishistic, sadistic offender. 594 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,280 This is why, frequently, 595 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,280 police will pull historical files for behaviour that they know 596 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,560 is leading towards 597 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,360 the type of really gruesome crime that eventually gets committed. 598 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,560 While Patrick Russo 599 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,080 looks like Diane's killer, and we think he's the killer, 600 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,800 but we don't have the material evidence 601 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,200 that we need right now to link him to it 100%. 602 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,560 So, we don't have an arrest warrant for him. 603 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,120 It's horribly frustrating, especially when... 604 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800 ...a stranger is running around talking his way 605 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000 into innocent women's homes. 606 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,360 We need to get him off the street as soon as possible 607 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,080 so we don't have another victim. 608 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,600 {\an8} Police can't act on suspicion. 609 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,680 {\an8}They require probable cause. 610 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Probable cause allows for an arrest of a suspect 611 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,360 because there's 612 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,640 sufficient cause there 613 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,080 that a reasonable person would say 614 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,680 that an arrest is warranted. 615 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,920 It's the legal framework that gets police 616 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,080 a foot in the door. 617 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,840 As we were investigating this, we came to understand that 618 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Patrick Russo would see the for sale signs, 619 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,560 and if there was a box 620 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,680 that actually had a piece of paper with all the details of the house, 621 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,560 he would grab that piece of paper 622 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160 and knock on the door so that people would see him 623 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,720 with their house-for-sale detail paper. 624 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720 This house that he went to, 625 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,160 there was a black and white paper in the box. 626 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,320 And when he went inside the house, he actually laid it down 627 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,320 and took a colour one... 628 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,920 ...but he forgot to take the black and white one with him. 629 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,760 And when that person called us back, 630 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,040 she told us, "Hey, I think I might have his fingerprints." 631 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,640 We actually called a fingerprint technician in on... 632 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,000 ...Thanksgiving Day 633 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,120 to do a comparison with the fingerprint 634 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,800 that we had taken from Russo 635 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,240 and from the one we got off the flyer. 636 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,720 And it was a match. 637 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:46,520 {\an8}We were able to prove with a fingerprint hit 638 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680 {\an8}that he did lie to us about not being 639 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,760 {\an8}in any of these neighbourhoods. 640 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160 {\an8}And that's actually a crime, 641 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,760 giving false information during a criminal investigation. 642 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,000 This allowed us to revoke his parole 643 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,880 and that's how we re-arrested him. 644 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,400 But we still need more evidence on Russo. 645 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,800 If not, he's gonna get cut free. 646 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,240 However, everything changed 647 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,160 when we looked through Patrick Russo's computer, 648 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,240 and nobody could believe what was on there. 649 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,080 I'm Roy Rector 650 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,960 and I was the... 651 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,320 ...computer forensic examiner on this case. 652 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,040 They brought the computer to me 653 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,560 for analysis 654 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:38,800 and we did search the computer for Diane Holik's name 655 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,560 and the name of the street. 656 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,120 We did not find 657 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,120 any positive results for those searches. 658 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,600 They said, "OK, go ahead and now search for real estate." 659 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,200 So, I do a search for real estate, 660 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,600 and we're looking at line after line of text-based content 661 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,040 and we're seeing realtors, and we're seeing Necro Babes, 662 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,440 and then the DA says, "What is Necro Babes?" 663 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,720 And I say, "I don't know." 664 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,840 I would call it a asphyxiation... 665 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,120 ...pornographic website. 666 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360 What it was is picture stories. It wasn't video. 667 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,960 You would select a story 668 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680 and it would show you a series of pictures 669 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 of women being bound, 670 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200 and tied, and physically abused. 671 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,960 Different pictures of, you know, hands around throats, 672 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,920 or strings around throats. 673 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,400 And in the end, the female actor would pretend to be dead. 674 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,440 So, it's obvious that Russo had a fetish for asphyxiation pornography. 675 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920 We realised that the very last story 676 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,320 that he looked at on this website 677 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,280 was very similar to what happened to Diane. 678 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,520 The story was basically about a man who was aroused by... 679 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,280 ...strangling women. 680 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,000 I think he wanted to kill somebody. 681 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,880 And he said the best way to do it is to... 682 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520 ...make the strangulation look like a robbery went bad 683 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,400 and you ended up having to kill the homeowner. 684 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,480 But aside from the ring that we couldn't find, 685 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,440 we couldn't say he stole anything in the house. 686 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,760 So, I think the true motive was 687 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,640 for him to go to that home and kill her, 688 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,760 and that's what he wanted to do, and then he tried to make it look 689 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,240 like a robbery, just like what was on that story. 690 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,840 We could actually get the company who sponsors that website 691 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,440 in Las Vegas to give us the exact 692 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,400 date and time that he clicked on every one of those photographs 693 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,800 or every one of those stories. 694 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,480 The dates are significant in that I think 695 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,000 he was accessing that website two days before the murder. 696 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,560 So, we were able to find the motive. 697 00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:01,000 It was to actually strangle and murder a woman. 698 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520 It wasn't to steal a ring or to rob anybody, it was to kill her. 699 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,320 That was where he was aroused. 700 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,680 When you have a stranger murder involving restraints, 701 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,960 a sexual motivation, 702 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,320 significant pre-planning 703 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,480 and fantasy development, 704 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,400 this is a budding serial killer. 705 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,200 He's gotten away with this once. 706 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,560 The fantasies will continue to be developed and cultivated. 707 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,160 And investigators know he has to be caught before he can do this 708 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,600 to another woman. 709 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,160 They know they're on a clock. 710 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480 That day, November 15th, 711 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,960 it's raining hard. 712 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,120 And Russo was probably dripping wet. 713 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,280 Diane probably offered him a towel so that he could dry off. 714 00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:59,800 He dried off with the towel, 715 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,440 but he didn't take the towel with him. 716 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,240 That's his mistake. 717 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,840 Leaving something behind. 718 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,920 Well, forensics finds hair on that towel. 719 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,880 That hair is submitted for DNA analysis. 720 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,480 And the DNA comes back to Patrick Russo. 721 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,280 This is enough to arrest 722 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,480 Patrick Russo for the murder of Diane Holik. 723 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,240 Driven by violent fantasies of strangling women, 724 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,880 Russo goes to affluent neighbourhoods, 725 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480 all around different parts of the city of Austin, 726 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,480 looking for homes that are for sale. 727 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,960 Going to the doors. 728 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,440 He pretends like he's a interested buyer 729 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,200 looking to buy a home with cash. 730 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,400 Some of these women 731 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,080 open the door and let him into their house. 732 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Sometime in the morning on November 15th, 733 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,080 Russo made his first contact with Diane Holik 734 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,520 stating he was looking to buy a house. 735 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,320 I believe Russo looked at her stature, 736 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,640 he looked at whether the dogs were friendly, 737 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,280 he looked at if there was a security system. 738 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,360 I think he probably knew that 739 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,120 she was not married and was living alone, and that 740 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,240 this would probably be an easy target. 741 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,400 At about 3:00 pm, 742 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600 Diane receives a knock on the door. 743 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,040 When she opens it, she realises it was the man 744 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,920 that was there earlier inquiring about buying her house, 745 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,480 so, she lets him in. 746 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,680 Seeing that Russo was wet from the rain, 747 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,560 Diane gave him a towel to dry himself off. 748 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,600 Diane gave Patrick a tour of the house. 749 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,120 At some point they go upstairs 750 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,120 to where that spare bedroom is, 751 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,840 and that's where he attacks her. 752 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,360 Between 3:00 753 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,960 and 3:59 pm 754 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,800 Diane Holik is murdered by strangulation. 755 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,320 Patrick Russo cleans up the crime scene, 756 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,680 wiping down his prints, 757 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,800 taking the zip ties. 758 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,880 Russo is eventually convicted of capital murder 759 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,160 in February of 2004. 760 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,280 I think the murder of Diane Holik 761 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,320 hit the community of Austin really hard. 762 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,400 That neighbourhood obviously was devastated. 763 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,760 The murder of Diane Holik shook everyone. 764 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,800 People very suddenly became very fearful. 765 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,080 Diane truly was a well loved person in the community 766 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,640 that just had her life taken from her needlessly. 767 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,880 It was shocking. 768 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,240 That doesn't happen every day in Austin. 769 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,000 But the thing about this case that haunts me is that this guy, 770 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,120 I think, would've been a prolific serial killer had we not caught him. 771 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960 He was good at lying. He had 772 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,840 mastered getting into women's homes. 773 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,560 It was very important for us as detectives 774 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,760 to do the best we can to bring justice. 775 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,600 ERIC It makes me incredibly proud to be a part of the team 776 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,480 that got justice for Diane and her family. 777 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,720 I think everybody, we really need to be careful 778 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,800 and be mindful of what's around us 779 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,160 and who we're letting into our homes. 780 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Subtitles by Sky Access Services 61408

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