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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,762 --> 00:00:14,347 [film roll clicks] 2 00:00:43,293 --> 00:00:46,337 [Sandi Tan] When I was 18, a long time ago now, 3 00:00:47,088 --> 00:00:52,302 I had the idea that you found freedom by building worlds inside your head. 4 00:01:00,101 --> 00:01:03,438 That you had to go backwards in order to go forwards. 5 00:01:09,527 --> 00:01:13,823 That little kids had the answers to everything. 6 00:01:14,407 --> 00:01:16,409 [insects chirping] 7 00:01:18,328 --> 00:01:21,039 [Sandi] When I was 18, I had so many ideas, 8 00:01:21,623 --> 00:01:24,751 I hardly slept at all. 9 00:01:46,815 --> 00:01:48,817 In the summer of 1992, 10 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:52,278 my friends and I shot a road movie on the streets of Singapore... 11 00:01:53,029 --> 00:01:56,574 that was to become a kind of urban legend. 12 00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:00,328 That movie was called Shirkers, 13 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:04,290 a word which means "running away, 14 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:07,043 avoiding responsibility, 15 00:02:08,461 --> 00:02:09,461 escape." 16 00:02:13,675 --> 00:02:16,636 I wrote the script and played the heroine, 17 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:19,472 a 16-year-old killer named S. 18 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:21,975 [owl hooting] 19 00:02:37,574 --> 00:02:39,993 [Sandi] Nobody was making movies like that in Singapore. 20 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:42,078 So, we were pioneers. 21 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:45,999 [dog barking, panting] 22 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:50,378 The film was a time capsule of a Singapore 23 00:02:50,461 --> 00:02:53,673 that was both real and imaginary. 24 00:03:11,232 --> 00:03:15,653 Back then, the thing I wanted more than anything was to make a movie. 25 00:03:16,738 --> 00:03:20,700 But I never imagined it would end this way. 26 00:03:20,783 --> 00:03:22,577 [eerie song playing] 27 00:03:30,752 --> 00:03:32,170 [music stops] 28 00:03:42,263 --> 00:03:47,101 Twenty-five years later, I find myself on a strange backward journey, 29 00:03:47,602 --> 00:03:50,188 replaying the past for clues. 30 00:03:52,690 --> 00:03:55,735 [man] Okay, I listened to your tape that you did in your room. 31 00:03:55,818 --> 00:03:58,446 I loved it. I like being your best friend. 32 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:00,406 You're my best friend. 33 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:05,703 I like knowing that you're around. 34 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:07,497 I like knowing that we're connected, 35 00:04:08,581 --> 00:04:09,958 that we're partners in crime. 36 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:13,294 Make me another tape, please. 37 00:04:13,962 --> 00:04:14,963 I miss you. 38 00:04:23,471 --> 00:04:25,556 [Sandi] I learned to stop thinking about that time... 39 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:29,143 to pretend it never happened... 40 00:04:30,728 --> 00:04:33,022 which was, of course, impossible. 41 00:04:36,567 --> 00:04:38,987 Shirkers became a secret history, 42 00:04:40,571 --> 00:04:42,115 shared by a small group of us. 43 00:04:44,158 --> 00:04:45,785 And it would haunt us 44 00:04:45,868 --> 00:04:47,287 and bond us 45 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:48,579 and tear us apart. 46 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:15,148 - [Sandi] Whenever you're ready. - Now. 47 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:19,527 [Sandi] Jasmine and I were enemies before we were friends. 48 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:23,239 You thought I was an enemy, but I don't know if I thought you were an enemy. 49 00:05:23,906 --> 00:05:25,158 Uh, yeah. 50 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:28,286 We stayed enemies until we were 14. 51 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:34,792 When we were growing up in the 1980s... 52 00:05:37,503 --> 00:05:41,424 the state and the family were constantly in your face. 53 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:43,343 [cheering] 54 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:45,970 [typewriter keys clacking, ding] 55 00:05:46,054 --> 00:05:49,599 Singapore was so uptight, its government even banned chewing gum. 56 00:05:50,391 --> 00:05:53,478 If Americans believe they are exceptional, 57 00:05:53,561 --> 00:05:54,812 let me tell you, 58 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:57,732 Singaporeans know we are exceptional. 59 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:01,361 A sweaty little island in 1965, 60 00:06:01,444 --> 00:06:05,281 Singapore became one of the richest countries in the world by the year 2000. 61 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,492 [fireworks whistle, pop] 62 00:06:09,535 --> 00:06:11,788 When Jasmine and I were 14, 63 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:16,000 we discovered unusual movies and unpopular music. 64 00:06:16,084 --> 00:06:18,086 [playing off-key] 65 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:24,175 [Sandi] And as weirdos, we became best friends. 66 00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:27,261 We came from very different backgrounds... 67 00:06:28,096 --> 00:06:29,639 but we were thick as thieves. 68 00:06:32,683 --> 00:06:35,061 My family was intense. 69 00:06:40,608 --> 00:06:44,070 My parents' marriage was collapsing even before I was born, 70 00:06:44,821 --> 00:06:47,949 and so I was raised by my grandparents. 71 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:53,913 When it rained, our front lawn looked like chocolate milk. 72 00:06:56,541 --> 00:07:00,628 In 1981, my grandfather insisted on having these pictures taken... 73 00:07:01,963 --> 00:07:05,133 because his beloved house was about to be torn down. 74 00:07:09,137 --> 00:07:13,516 In 1985, the house was replaced by this condo. 75 00:07:17,311 --> 00:07:21,399 It still flooded, but it was no longer chocolate milk. 76 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,319 I was always expected to shine. 77 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:27,363 Which was exhausting. 78 00:07:28,614 --> 00:07:30,074 I needed a way out. 79 00:07:31,534 --> 00:07:33,786 So, of course, I liked Jasmine's family. 80 00:07:34,412 --> 00:07:36,539 They were warm and undemanding 81 00:07:36,622 --> 00:07:40,126 and didn't care if we built crazy shrines in Jasmine's room. 82 00:07:41,836 --> 00:07:43,504 We had the God of Theater... 83 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:46,799 and the Goddess of Scriptwriting. 84 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:48,050 [typewriter clacking] 85 00:07:48,509 --> 00:07:50,470 [plane whooshing by sound] 86 00:07:53,598 --> 00:07:56,434 We showed up at school dressed up as nurses. 87 00:07:56,517 --> 00:07:57,602 [school bell ringing] 88 00:07:57,685 --> 00:08:01,314 And I challenged the authorities at the Film Society. 89 00:08:01,397 --> 00:08:04,942 [man] Dear Sandi: We will certainly try to acquire the films you've requested. 90 00:08:05,526 --> 00:08:07,612 [Sandi] I desperately wanted to make movies. 91 00:08:09,197 --> 00:08:13,826 I gave imaginary interviews as imaginary filmmakers. 92 00:08:14,619 --> 00:08:18,331 Hi, I would like to share with you my movie 93 00:08:18,414 --> 00:08:23,419 Magic Fire Brain, which, uh, is completely original. 94 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:25,796 There were lots of crowd scenes. 95 00:08:27,673 --> 00:08:30,468 I read American Film and Film Comment religiously. 96 00:08:31,719 --> 00:08:36,098 But it was impossible to see these movies unless I got very creative. 97 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:41,646 I established a clandestine videotaping syndicate 98 00:08:41,729 --> 00:08:43,481 with my cousin Vicki in Florida... 99 00:08:44,649 --> 00:08:47,151 just so I could watch Blue Velvet. 100 00:08:52,990 --> 00:08:56,744 Jasmine and I devoured what people around us ignored. 101 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,334 We started writing for BigO, 102 00:09:03,417 --> 00:09:07,255 Singapore's underground rock zine, when we were 14. 103 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:12,885 BigO was run by Philip Cheah, in all his poker-faced glory, 104 00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:16,681 and he would make us tapes of Patti Smith and The Velvet Underground 105 00:09:16,764 --> 00:09:20,601 and quiz us on them before he would let us join their club. 106 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:25,898 In Singapore, you had very strict censorship across music and film. 107 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:29,360 A lot of the great classic albums were still banned. 108 00:09:29,443 --> 00:09:33,823 We saw the revolution that took place in the UK and in the US, 109 00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:36,576 and we wondered whether that could actually happen here. 110 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:40,580 [Sandi] We created elaborate collages for BigO, 111 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,040 which they all hated. 112 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:46,794 I think we were way too punk for them. 113 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:50,756 They were a lame boy's club anyway. 114 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:54,635 So it was always us... 115 00:09:55,386 --> 00:09:56,929 against the world. 116 00:09:58,514 --> 00:10:03,060 Our greatest achievement was publishing our own zine, The Exploding Cat... 117 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:06,564 on the photocopier at the National Library. 118 00:10:08,232 --> 00:10:13,112 Exploding Cat was our attempt to catalog everything that angered us, 119 00:10:13,195 --> 00:10:14,363 that made us laugh. 120 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:28,419 The Cat became its own thing. 121 00:10:29,128 --> 00:10:32,840 We received letters from New York, London... 122 00:10:33,883 --> 00:10:36,010 Paris, Jerusalem, 123 00:10:36,719 --> 00:10:39,263 even prisons in three different states. 124 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:42,516 Above all... 125 00:10:44,352 --> 00:10:46,395 it was a catalog of us. 126 00:10:47,605 --> 00:10:48,605 Me, 127 00:10:49,231 --> 00:10:50,775 my friends, 128 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:55,446 our tiny island in the center of the world, 129 00:10:56,155 --> 00:10:57,573 charting our own destiny... 130 00:10:58,824 --> 00:11:01,118 in 1989. 131 00:11:03,454 --> 00:11:05,748 [girl] The next story is chapter 39. 132 00:11:05,831 --> 00:11:08,125 [Sandi] Hang on, just one more thing. 133 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:11,629 Back in those days, I was obsessed with The Catcher in the Rye... 134 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:15,091 and Salinger's idea of saving children. 135 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:19,387 So I trained my baby cousins to never grow up. 136 00:11:20,012 --> 00:11:22,264 [boy speaking gibberish] 137 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:23,933 ...people talk. [laughs] 138 00:11:24,016 --> 00:11:26,018 - [Sandi] Wen... - Yes. 139 00:11:26,477 --> 00:11:27,478 Say something. 140 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:29,438 [girl] I'm going to color. 141 00:11:30,314 --> 00:11:32,525 [girl humming] 142 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:40,783 [Sandi] Or if they had to grow up, to grow up different. 143 00:11:43,285 --> 00:11:45,121 [girl laughing] 144 00:11:48,999 --> 00:11:51,585 [Sandi] "Hysterical" was superior to "ordinary." 145 00:11:53,254 --> 00:11:54,505 [girl] I hate you. 146 00:11:54,588 --> 00:11:57,299 [Sandi] Even "depressed" was superior to "ordinary." 147 00:11:57,383 --> 00:12:00,302 [boy hums fanfare] You no good mangy mutt! 148 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:01,554 You're stupid. 149 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:13,733 A long time ago, in early '91, we took the filmmaking class, 150 00:12:13,858 --> 00:12:17,194 probably the first filmmaking class available here. 151 00:12:18,904 --> 00:12:21,532 In this classroom and the adjoining classroom as well. 152 00:12:22,241 --> 00:12:24,952 So there was a whole bunch of us, you, me, 153 00:12:25,035 --> 00:12:28,289 a whole strange assortment of persons. 154 00:12:29,206 --> 00:12:35,463 [Sandi] Our teacher was Georges Cardona, a man of unplaceable age and origin. 155 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:39,069 [Georges Cardona] I think we ought to make a film about the guy 156 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:41,552 who measures the visibility in Singapore. 157 00:12:41,635 --> 00:12:42,762 [woman laughs] 158 00:12:42,845 --> 00:12:46,599 He projected himself to be an American filmmaker, 159 00:12:47,641 --> 00:12:52,563 and was there to teach us, impressionable 18, 19 year-olds, 160 00:12:52,646 --> 00:12:54,231 about film production in Singapore. 161 00:12:54,607 --> 00:12:56,567 [Sandi] We met Sophie at the class. 162 00:12:57,109 --> 00:13:00,488 She was so nice and stable and trustworthy. 163 00:13:00,571 --> 00:13:02,782 I wasn't sure she would make a good friend. 164 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:06,076 Georges brought the three of us, 165 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,955 Sophie, Jasmine and me into his inner circle. 166 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,082 Cecilia runs a video bordello. 167 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,419 My impression of Georges, uh, 168 00:13:15,503 --> 00:13:19,048 first and foremost, was his eyes, very metallic. 169 00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:21,342 It was almost ice, icy blue. 170 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:25,846 He spoke in a very slow, calm, measured tones. 171 00:13:26,972 --> 00:13:30,226 And I just remember, even at that point, 172 00:13:30,309 --> 00:13:32,394 this kind of dissonance, you know, 173 00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:34,522 the eyes seemed so cold 174 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:36,565 but his demeanor seemed so warm. 175 00:13:37,858 --> 00:13:40,319 And he had this ability 176 00:13:40,402 --> 00:13:42,488 that when he spoke to you, 177 00:13:42,571 --> 00:13:46,659 you felt that you were his sole focus. 178 00:13:48,035 --> 00:13:51,121 [Sandi] Georges was like no other adult I knew in Singapore. 179 00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:56,627 He liked to just sit and watch the light change. 180 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:03,008 He took us to shoot colorful Hindu festivals 181 00:14:03,092 --> 00:14:06,345 that my family would have found frightening. 182 00:14:06,428 --> 00:14:08,806 [Hindu fast-paced music playing] 183 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:20,526 [Sandi] He talked about movies the way I wanted to talk about movies. 184 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:25,948 He loved the French New Wave. 185 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:28,033 [man speaking French] 186 00:14:28,742 --> 00:14:30,911 And soon, so did I. 187 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:40,546 When the film class ended at nine or ten at night... 188 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,008 we would drive around the island with Georges. 189 00:14:46,844 --> 00:14:51,515 We kept him out late, even though we knew he had a wife and a baby 190 00:14:51,599 --> 00:14:52,975 waiting for him at home. 191 00:14:53,475 --> 00:14:55,769 - [Georges] And I barked. - [girl laughs] 192 00:14:55,853 --> 00:14:57,855 [crickets chirping] 193 00:14:59,023 --> 00:15:00,649 [Georges] Can you hear the crickets? 194 00:15:02,359 --> 00:15:03,861 [Sandi] We went looking for ideas. 195 00:15:05,237 --> 00:15:07,197 We went looking for wild dogs. 196 00:15:07,531 --> 00:15:08,449 [Sandi] Bang! 197 00:15:08,532 --> 00:15:10,659 [Georges laughs] Were you rolling? 198 00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:11,743 [Sandi] Yeah. 199 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:15,706 [Jasmine] Sandi, I didn't know you were into this. 200 00:15:17,541 --> 00:15:20,502 Oh, stop it! I'm not in the mood tonight. 201 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:22,212 [Sandi] Nice soundtrack. 202 00:15:22,296 --> 00:15:23,631 [laughing] 203 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:24,632 Hurry up. 204 00:15:24,715 --> 00:15:27,051 [Georges] We're speaking loudly. 205 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:33,474 And all the lovers are sort of aggravated with us and they have cleared the area. 206 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:45,194 [Sandi] He was my first friend who was a grown man. 207 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:51,367 He picked us. 208 00:15:52,326 --> 00:15:55,412 But he let us feel like we picked him. 209 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:09,093 Those night drives bled into my dreams. 210 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:12,262 Of course I wanted to make a road movie. 211 00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:20,521 Instead, I went away to a strange, cold place. 212 00:16:21,146 --> 00:16:22,146 England. 213 00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:37,788 I thought I would find my tribe. 214 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:40,374 But I had left them. 215 00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:43,794 Jasmine went to New York... 216 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,046 Sophie went to LA... 217 00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:50,259 And Georges stayed in Singapore. 218 00:16:51,927 --> 00:16:53,512 I felt so stranded. 219 00:16:54,054 --> 00:16:55,681 I poured all of myself... 220 00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:58,017 into letters to Georges... 221 00:16:58,392 --> 00:16:59,852 [pen scratching] 222 00:16:59,935 --> 00:17:00,978 And Jasmine. 223 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,619 Georges didn't write letters or emails. 224 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:20,497 On very rare occasions, 225 00:17:20,831 --> 00:17:23,500 he sent me tape recordings of his voice. 226 00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:27,615 [Georges] What are you doing now? 227 00:17:28,672 --> 00:17:29,672 Um... 228 00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:32,217 Thinking of going to the US in Easter. 229 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:36,221 And renting a car, then traveling through the US... 230 00:17:38,807 --> 00:17:41,685 for all the way from New Orleans to Arkansas. 231 00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:43,687 [Sandi] He invited Jasmine and me to join him. 232 00:17:44,688 --> 00:17:49,276 There were few things that excited me more than the idea of an American road trip. 233 00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:53,947 I thought, "Fuck the French New Wave, we're going to live our own movie." 234 00:17:54,031 --> 00:17:57,034 [man speaking French] Sandi Tan, the only child 235 00:17:57,117 --> 00:18:00,370 of a toothbrush salesman and a worker in a mortuary. 236 00:18:00,454 --> 00:18:02,581 Sandi was parentless from age two. 237 00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:04,708 Jasmine Ng, the eldest daughter 238 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:08,545 of a mafia kingpin in Singapore's Chinatown, 239 00:18:08,629 --> 00:18:11,965 and a feeble-minded housewife. 240 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:16,512 Georges Cardona is 89 years old and mute. 241 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:18,388 No other info available. 242 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:21,950 [Sandi] Jasmine didn't see it that way. 243 00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:24,978 In the end, only I went. 244 00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:33,278 I flew to Los Angeles to meet Georges. 245 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:38,951 He and I drove to San Francisco, taking the slowest, most scenic roads. 246 00:18:42,454 --> 00:18:44,665 Even back then I knew how it looked. 247 00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:49,086 I was on the road with a married man more than twice my age. 248 00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:52,798 So I didn't tell anyone. 249 00:18:55,592 --> 00:18:57,136 He gave me signals, 250 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:01,640 strange signals, late night conversations 251 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:04,518 where he told me people thought we were lovers. 252 00:19:06,019 --> 00:19:09,773 And then one night, he invited me to touch his belly. 253 00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:15,237 I just ignored him. 254 00:19:21,785 --> 00:19:24,079 It disturbed me to even think about it. 255 00:19:25,372 --> 00:19:27,791 And we both pretended it never happened. 256 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:37,050 Then we drove to New Orleans where he grew up. 257 00:19:47,102 --> 00:19:52,900 Georges was showing me the South, with its moss and bugs and ghost stories. 258 00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:58,947 This was the place where he had transformed himself into an artist. 259 00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:09,750 He told me how when he was 12, 260 00:20:09,833 --> 00:20:13,795 he watched his older brother bleed to death on their mother's lap. 261 00:20:15,547 --> 00:20:19,343 He told me how when Jayne Mansfield was killed in a car accident... 262 00:20:20,302 --> 00:20:24,181 her decapitated head rolled over to where he was in his car. 263 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:31,813 He told me he was the inspiration for James Spader's character 264 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:34,191 in Sex, Lies, and Videotape. 265 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,653 [woman] Something to take my mind off this trip. 266 00:20:38,445 --> 00:20:39,655 So I was just... 267 00:20:40,530 --> 00:20:41,530 I just... 268 00:20:42,783 --> 00:20:44,368 I just did it on the plane. 269 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:47,704 [Sandi] Whether his stories were actually true 270 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,831 seemed beside the point. 271 00:20:50,874 --> 00:20:52,501 I loved his storytelling, 272 00:20:53,293 --> 00:20:56,838 and how his stories made time and place and truth 273 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,423 absolutely porous. 274 00:20:58,715 --> 00:21:00,595 [Georges] ...the dominant member of the party... 275 00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,220 [Sandi] I was suddenly staring at a puddle of blood 276 00:21:03,303 --> 00:21:05,055 in a living room in the '60s. 277 00:21:05,722 --> 00:21:08,892 I was two degrees away from Jayne Mansfield's head, 278 00:21:10,018 --> 00:21:12,312 three degrees from Steven Soderbergh. 279 00:21:15,399 --> 00:21:18,902 That road trip was significant for another reason. 280 00:21:20,404 --> 00:21:23,073 I chose Georges as my new best friend. 281 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,582 We talked about making a movie together... 282 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:34,668 a road movie. 283 00:21:40,132 --> 00:21:43,885 I went back to school and immediately threw everything into a script. 284 00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:45,887 [keyboard clacking] 285 00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:49,391 [faxing noise] 286 00:21:54,104 --> 00:21:58,317 "S tells her best friend TB she can save the world when it ends. 287 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,862 Her tools are games, toys, and her imagination. 288 00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,990 She saves the world in small numbers, starting with..." 289 00:22:05,073 --> 00:22:08,577 In my vision of the world, there are movers, 290 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:09,995 there are shakers, 291 00:22:10,078 --> 00:22:11,496 and there are shirkers. 292 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:15,667 Georges sent me a fax. 293 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:24,259 It started out with... 294 00:22:26,553 --> 00:22:29,806 the mysteriously-named lead character S. 295 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:31,600 I wonder what that stands for. 296 00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:35,729 [Sandi] My idea was to do a road movie in a country 297 00:22:35,812 --> 00:22:38,023 you can drive across in 40 minutes. 298 00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:41,860 We follow this cryptic character, she goes around Singapore. 299 00:22:42,944 --> 00:22:44,696 She might have been the Grim Reaper, 300 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:49,034 just picking off these characters and taking them on this afterlife journey. 301 00:22:49,659 --> 00:22:51,953 Because Sandi had an obsession with Bergman. 302 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:56,750 [Sandi] I don't have... I hated Bergman. 303 00:22:56,833 --> 00:23:00,587 But anyway, go on. Can we start and you describe the plot? 304 00:23:01,296 --> 00:23:05,634 You as the screenwriter, this was not a three-act structure. 305 00:23:06,468 --> 00:23:07,469 [Sandi] How could we...? 306 00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:10,430 It's only something that 19-year-olds could've just said, 307 00:23:10,514 --> 00:23:11,932 "Let's go do it. Why not?" 308 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,935 [Sandi] I finished the script in June, 309 00:23:15,018 --> 00:23:17,145 and we had to start shooting in July 310 00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:20,941 before the school term began for Jasmine and Sophie. 311 00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,945 It was less than two and a half months. 312 00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:26,071 [Sandi] Pre-production. 313 00:23:27,197 --> 00:23:31,284 No, pre-production and shoot for a feature 314 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:34,079 while most of us were still working day jobs. 315 00:23:35,163 --> 00:23:37,541 Like I said, you were the only one who was not working. 316 00:23:42,254 --> 00:23:44,631 I remember, um, 317 00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:48,635 that you were the sort of "chief ideologue" of the trio. 318 00:23:48,718 --> 00:23:50,178 Sophie was the gopher. 319 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:51,263 Jasmine... 320 00:23:52,639 --> 00:23:54,349 was the technical person, 321 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:58,061 I think, who was, you know, always fussing with this and that. 322 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,066 [Sandi] We eventually broke into two camps, 323 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,446 Jasmine and Sophie, who thought we should wait a year and do it next summer... 324 00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:12,492 versus me and Georges who just wanted to get the film made. 325 00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:15,370 [man singing] 326 00:24:15,495 --> 00:24:19,791 [Sandi] One of Georges' favorite films was Werner Herzog's Fitzcarraldo... 327 00:24:21,042 --> 00:24:23,170 in which the mad Klaus Kinski 328 00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:26,256 commands an army of Amazonian natives 329 00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:29,092 to pull a ship over a mountain for him. 330 00:24:32,387 --> 00:24:34,890 This is one of Georges' guiding inspirations. 331 00:24:37,017 --> 00:24:39,311 And it became mine too. 332 00:24:40,645 --> 00:24:43,899 [Jasmine] You've always been a very determined and quite ambitious person. 333 00:24:45,942 --> 00:24:48,570 You just wanted it done at any cost, 334 00:24:49,362 --> 00:24:51,448 and you were willing to just burn things 335 00:24:51,531 --> 00:24:53,658 just so that you could make your own film. 336 00:24:54,993 --> 00:24:57,078 [Sandi] Well, okay, 337 00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:59,623 but after years of plotting to make a film, 338 00:24:59,706 --> 00:25:02,375 I couldn't just let this opportunity slip by. 339 00:25:05,086 --> 00:25:07,380 It wasn't as if Jasmine was an expert. 340 00:25:10,383 --> 00:25:14,095 She designed this audition flyer in her unique style. 341 00:25:17,974 --> 00:25:21,186 Of course nobody could read it so nobody showed up. 342 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:26,525 She was furious when we got someone more conventional to try again. 343 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:29,694 She thought we were selling out. 344 00:25:31,571 --> 00:25:32,811 [Jasmine] Don't worry about it. 345 00:25:32,864 --> 00:25:36,201 It's just gonna be like informal improvisational kind of exercise. 346 00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:38,662 My left side, my right side. 347 00:25:38,745 --> 00:25:39,745 [Jasmine] Yeah, right. 348 00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:41,957 Hold up your number. 349 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,876 [Sandi] The auditions were run by Sophie and Jasmine. 350 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,380 [Sophie] Basically, the main character of the film is 16 years old. 351 00:25:48,463 --> 00:25:52,175 Hey. Wow. Let me have a closer look. 352 00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:58,515 [Jasmine] Okay, can you just imagine you're in the car right now... 353 00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:02,477 and you're going around, you're knocking all these old women down and... You know? 354 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,396 [ululates] 355 00:26:05,814 --> 00:26:06,648 [Jasmine] Okay. 356 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:08,525 - Yeah. - [Jasmine] That's all right. 357 00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:13,947 [Sandi] Georges was nowhere to be seen or heard. 358 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:17,117 Except here. 359 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:27,127 And so I was the screenwriter, 360 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:28,962 Sophie was the producer, 361 00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:31,089 Jasmine would be the editor... 362 00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:35,552 and Georges was the director. 363 00:26:39,889 --> 00:26:42,601 Sophie, as our 19-year-old producer, 364 00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:47,188 wrote letters in the voice of an experienced executive producer. 365 00:26:50,859 --> 00:26:55,030 I secured a meeting with a high-profile person, 366 00:26:55,113 --> 00:26:59,159 and it took me a lot of time and courage, 367 00:26:59,242 --> 00:27:02,287 and before the person arrived, Georges said to me, 368 00:27:03,204 --> 00:27:05,165 "Okay, now you go into the kitchen. 369 00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,167 I'm gonna take the meeting." 370 00:27:07,792 --> 00:27:10,170 That was a very difficult moment for me. 371 00:27:10,253 --> 00:27:11,755 I didn't believe in Georges. 372 00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:14,966 I did not believe in Georges, but I believed in the film. 373 00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:18,178 Do I yell at Georges 374 00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:20,972 or is it better for me to remain in the kitchen 375 00:27:21,056 --> 00:27:24,059 and have him secure the deal so the film could move forward? 376 00:27:24,726 --> 00:27:26,603 And I chose the film. 377 00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:29,648 [Sandi] We were trying to mount a feature film 378 00:27:29,731 --> 00:27:32,150 on the scantest of practical knowledge. 379 00:27:33,693 --> 00:27:36,946 We had a production assistant who was 14 years old. 380 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,577 Georges talked Ronnie, a 30-year-old first time DP 381 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,913 into shooting the film for us. 382 00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:47,791 I got involved as a sound man, 383 00:27:47,916 --> 00:27:51,586 and I volunteered to do the storyboarding. 384 00:27:52,962 --> 00:27:55,090 I have no clue what Shirkers is about. 385 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,510 - Can I say that? Would that offend you? - [Sandi] No, no, no. 386 00:27:59,636 --> 00:28:03,973 My grandmother played my grandmother and my baby cousin played my baby cousin. 387 00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:08,978 Her furry little arms had their own little story. 388 00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:17,987 Oh, I thought, "Oh, great, they're looking for a nurse, and I'm one." 389 00:28:18,613 --> 00:28:22,534 I've always wanted to see what acting is all about, you know? 390 00:28:22,617 --> 00:28:23,702 [school bell rings] 391 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,329 [Sandi] I talked Philip into playing the crossing guard... 392 00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:29,999 because that's essentially what he was to me. 393 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:36,089 When I first heard about the Shirkers project, I thought, it's about time. 394 00:28:36,172 --> 00:28:40,510 The only sort of independent feature films that were shot in Singapore 395 00:28:40,593 --> 00:28:44,097 were like the legendary They Call Her Cleopatra Wong. 396 00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:48,852 [grunting] 397 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:04,576 [Sophie] There was very little domestic filmmaking activity, right? 398 00:29:06,161 --> 00:29:11,750 And then we were going to be the next film after Medium Rare. 399 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:16,212 [Sandi] Medium Rare was a film about a Singaporean serial killer 400 00:29:16,296 --> 00:29:18,715 who was played by an American TV actor. 401 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,719 And come on, we can do better than that. 402 00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:28,057 We dispatched an army of location scouts across the island. 403 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,400 I made sure they found the mannequin shops... 404 00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:40,737 and the old-timey bakery that I loved 405 00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:43,114 because I knew they wouldn't be around for long. 406 00:29:45,241 --> 00:29:49,496 Jasmine and Sophie negotiated with Kodak and the film equipment houses... 407 00:29:51,247 --> 00:29:54,626 and we got all our film and camera equipment for free. 408 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:02,842 There remained one last role to be cast: the heroine S. 409 00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:06,471 I even felt like I couldn't play the role, 'cause it was a non-role. 410 00:30:06,554 --> 00:30:08,556 You wanted to play the role. 411 00:30:10,725 --> 00:30:14,354 Whether it was a good decision to have cast you in the role, 412 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:18,817 I think the footage will speak for itself. 413 00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:20,776 [Sandi] Yeah. 414 00:30:21,778 --> 00:30:25,114 "Exterior: S's Street, afternoon. 415 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:31,663 A lazy suburban neighborhood with rows of one-story houses, 416 00:30:31,746 --> 00:30:36,292 lawnmower sounds, cutlery clangs, whining puppies, 417 00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:40,839 and faint sounds of radio fuzzying with '30s Shanghai showtunes, 418 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:46,427 track along the fronts of the houses until camera frame bumps into S. 419 00:30:48,429 --> 00:30:51,808 Our 16-year-old protagonist enters the scene 420 00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:55,061 with an old suitcase and an old camera." 421 00:30:56,312 --> 00:30:57,772 She is coming home. 422 00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:02,861 S lives with her grandmother... 423 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:06,155 and her cousin, baby Woo Woo. 424 00:31:06,948 --> 00:31:09,742 They live next door to her best friend TB. 425 00:31:11,327 --> 00:31:15,331 TB lives with her mother, who loves to smoke and watch TV. 426 00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:18,501 And her little brother TJ, 427 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:21,462 who rides around the neighborhood looking for trouble. 428 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:32,140 One beautiful day, S gets TB to go with her to shoot her piano teacher. 429 00:31:32,515 --> 00:31:35,268 [metronome ticking] 430 00:31:35,351 --> 00:31:37,228 [gunshot, thump] 431 00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:40,315 [metronome continues ticking] 432 00:31:43,067 --> 00:31:45,945 When TB gets too busy to hang out with her, 433 00:31:46,029 --> 00:31:48,072 S goes looking for a new sidekick... 434 00:31:48,948 --> 00:31:51,784 and four more people she likes enough to kill. 435 00:31:53,953 --> 00:31:56,289 Sleeping on her favorite spot in the grass, 436 00:31:56,581 --> 00:32:01,794 she meets a visibility inspector named Rahman and goes home with him. 437 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:05,548 She abducts his little son, Haryo. 438 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:11,054 She and Haryo walk around the island looking for more people to collect. 439 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:12,555 [insects chirping] 440 00:32:13,222 --> 00:32:14,057 [dog panting] 441 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:17,226 [Sandi] They spot Cecilia, the nurse, and her giant dog, Cherish, 442 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:18,686 and follow them home. 443 00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:22,023 They meet Cecilia's daughter, Monster, 444 00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:24,567 who is epileptic, but who loves to dance. 445 00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:26,653 [dog panting] 446 00:32:28,321 --> 00:32:30,239 S is a Catcher in the Rye... 447 00:32:30,990 --> 00:32:32,992 and so they are three. 448 00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:36,079 - Together, they meet Montana Bob. - [girl gasps] 449 00:32:36,746 --> 00:32:39,332 He's a funny dude, so they follow him home. 450 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:44,587 Meanwhile, there's the mystery boy S keeps encountering. 451 00:32:45,213 --> 00:32:49,258 She develops feelings for him, which means she has to kill him. 452 00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:53,346 That's two down, three to go. 453 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:59,060 She meets Albert, the self-made man who built a fortune in sticky tape, 454 00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:02,897 and he's eager to show off his massive new house. 455 00:33:04,732 --> 00:33:06,484 S meets his wife Mimi... 456 00:33:08,695 --> 00:33:09,904 their son Robert... 457 00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:13,533 and their maids, Portrero and Pacifica. 458 00:33:14,742 --> 00:33:17,954 Robert tells S he's an armchair hedonist. 459 00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:20,206 They go driving. 460 00:33:20,873 --> 00:33:22,667 His friends are all dweebs. 461 00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:25,211 Time is running out. 462 00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:29,090 And S has three more people to take to the other world with her. 463 00:33:31,259 --> 00:33:33,845 It's not clear if this world is heaven, 464 00:33:33,928 --> 00:33:36,180 hell or a supermarket. 465 00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:38,307 So things happen. 466 00:33:41,936 --> 00:33:43,312 Or maybe they don't. 467 00:33:44,772 --> 00:33:49,027 Because maybe this whole thing was a dream after all. 468 00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:59,370 Well, because, like, the plot was almost immaterial. 469 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:03,249 - You know, it was a mood piece. It was... - Yeah. 470 00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:05,752 I don't know. 471 00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:14,761 [Sandi] My script called for the largest dog in the country, 472 00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:18,389 and Sophie got hold of this giant wolfhound named Mega. 473 00:34:20,391 --> 00:34:24,020 Then Sophie and Jasmine sneaked him into the supermarket... 474 00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:26,397 when the manager's back was turned. 475 00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:32,195 [Sophie] I faked a seizure... 476 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:34,906 in order to draw crowds. 477 00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:38,326 So I was the crowd wrangler as well. 478 00:34:41,662 --> 00:34:45,291 [Sandi] Sophie and Jasmine stole these seniors out of an old folks home. 479 00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:52,465 And returned them before they even knew what happened. 480 00:34:54,133 --> 00:34:57,303 And we made all the grown up women smoke. 481 00:34:58,471 --> 00:34:59,472 And smoke. 482 00:35:00,681 --> 00:35:01,891 And smoke. 483 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,066 We captured some startling performances from friends and strangers. 484 00:35:11,734 --> 00:35:14,028 You were really great as the Detergent Lady. 485 00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:17,615 I was not really great. I think you love laughing at your friends. 486 00:35:17,698 --> 00:35:20,159 [Sandi] There was Freda as my best friend TB. 487 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:24,789 Kaylene as my disabled sidekick, Monster. 488 00:35:26,249 --> 00:35:28,793 And Pohshon as Monster's mom. 489 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:36,217 You were supposed to take my child away from me and I was like... 490 00:35:36,843 --> 00:35:40,888 crying because you're gonna take her away from me for good 491 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:44,392 and, see, you're making me cry now. [laughs] 492 00:35:51,023 --> 00:35:53,901 Our passion and our earnestness... 493 00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:56,237 came through. 494 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,948 At that time, I thought that Shirkers... 495 00:35:59,824 --> 00:36:01,576 as it was proposed, 496 00:36:02,702 --> 00:36:05,788 was incredible, it was way ahead of its time. 497 00:36:08,207 --> 00:36:11,419 This was a period when America was making some of these movies 498 00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:13,129 with Winona Ryder, I believe. 499 00:36:13,212 --> 00:36:17,133 And I think that to have a Singapore side of things 500 00:36:17,216 --> 00:36:21,429 and especially when it's fronted by Sandi, 501 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:23,264 absolutely astounds me. 502 00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,687 [Sandi] Did you ever read the script? Like, did you feel it was childish? 503 00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:32,440 Yeah, but that was the beauty of it, right? You know that. 504 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:37,028 You know that. It was so personal, wasn't it? 505 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:47,205 [Sandi] Georges came up with an idea for a set piece. 506 00:36:59,342 --> 00:37:03,930 And it was only much later that I realized the idea wasn't even his. 507 00:37:17,985 --> 00:37:20,863 My friend Leon was so full of himself, 508 00:37:20,947 --> 00:37:23,074 claiming that every girl was in love with him. 509 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:27,161 And so I gave him the kind of fate I thought he deserved. 510 00:37:29,288 --> 00:37:30,831 [brakes screeching, thump] 511 00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:37,755 In my world of Shirkers, there were different categories of boys: 512 00:37:39,715 --> 00:37:41,676 the boys I thought delectable, 513 00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:45,972 the boys I liked as good friends, 514 00:37:47,473 --> 00:37:49,141 and as in life, 515 00:37:50,184 --> 00:37:52,603 I made friends with strange men 516 00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:54,939 because I was bold in that way. 517 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,445 One of the most visceral memories I have of Shirkers 518 00:38:01,529 --> 00:38:04,323 was the scene in the bowling alley. 519 00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:13,165 We spent a whole day shooting. 520 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,961 It involved a lot of emotional energy. 521 00:38:17,044 --> 00:38:18,713 Remember, you know, you're 18, 19. 522 00:38:19,505 --> 00:38:22,466 In the end, I remember asking Georges, 523 00:38:23,384 --> 00:38:25,886 "How was it? You know, how were the takes?" 524 00:38:27,054 --> 00:38:31,475 And he looked at me and he's like, "The camera jammed on the first take." 525 00:38:32,226 --> 00:38:36,063 So... we'd shot nothing. 526 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:40,151 And this was, I don't even know how many hours in that day, 527 00:38:40,943 --> 00:38:42,069 and I lost it with him. 528 00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:46,949 [Sandi] We had to go back to the bowling alley the next day 529 00:38:47,033 --> 00:38:50,369 and do it all over again. 530 00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:54,457 - You're going too fast, man. Pull out! - I can't! I can't! 531 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:56,876 Why are you chasing him? You know you're off the case. 532 00:38:56,959 --> 00:38:58,544 The boss is gonna have your ass! 533 00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:01,922 [Sandi] While we were shooting, our friend Ben was busy 534 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,050 working on the soundtrack for Shirkers. 535 00:39:05,217 --> 00:39:09,138 I knew you from Exploding Cat and BigO magazine. 536 00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:14,643 At the time, I guess my resources meant that I would have just had one tape. 537 00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:17,188 A lot of little doodles... 538 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:19,231 on guitar... 539 00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:23,402 electric, a lot of backwards stuff, I think. 540 00:39:25,321 --> 00:39:27,990 The first time, I remember my skin crawling. 541 00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:31,619 It was like I was ushered away from you guys at Newton Circus. 542 00:39:32,912 --> 00:39:37,416 What I wasn't expecting is Georges to take me aside, 543 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,461 escort me to his car, 544 00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:44,965 like some gangster meeting or a policeman meeting an informer 545 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:47,968 or something like that, straight out of the movies. 546 00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:51,847 I thought, "Okay, he's going to listen to the cassette of the stuff I have," 547 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,143 which I thought was odd because it was for you guys, but I didn't get that. 548 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:57,603 He was just threatening me, 549 00:39:57,686 --> 00:40:02,066 sussing me out to see if I had an agenda and, you know, telling me off that... 550 00:40:03,025 --> 00:40:05,403 "Don't take advantage of these guys" or something like that. 551 00:40:05,486 --> 00:40:07,822 I was like, "What? Sorry?" 552 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:12,576 He also tells me that a far more professional 553 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:17,706 and established musician was working on the soundtrack, 554 00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:19,250 which was news to me. 555 00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:21,210 [Sandi] But you left the tape with him. 556 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,964 - Yeah. I thought they were going to you. - [Sandi] Why? 557 00:40:26,882 --> 00:40:30,302 [Sandi] I didn't know it then, but Georges took Ben's only tape... 558 00:40:31,178 --> 00:40:34,348 and banned him from visiting us on the set. 559 00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:38,436 I don't remember exactly the chain of events, 560 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,646 but things just got worse and worse. 561 00:40:42,481 --> 00:40:46,444 [Sandi] Jasmine started keeping notes about what was actually going on. 562 00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:50,656 Just read it. You wrote this. 563 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:53,534 "Everything is bloody uncertain. 564 00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:57,037 Mr. C. has no idea what he's doing, 565 00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:58,956 he has no idea how he's gonna get the money. 566 00:40:59,373 --> 00:41:02,376 He claims he has a production manager who worked on Apocalypse Now." 567 00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:04,253 Who was that? 568 00:41:04,336 --> 00:41:05,629 I don't know. 569 00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:07,506 You were there. You were at the meeting... 570 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,216 Obviously that person didn't show up. 571 00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:15,181 How can we continue with this when I was pointing all these things out? 572 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:16,348 So it was true. 573 00:41:16,932 --> 00:41:19,935 It was just really you and Georges who wanted this to happen. 574 00:41:21,061 --> 00:41:24,982 You weren't paying attention to any of these progress reports. 575 00:41:25,065 --> 00:41:28,277 I was paying attention, but I just thought we're just gonna wing it. 576 00:41:29,361 --> 00:41:30,613 Like I do. 577 00:41:30,696 --> 00:41:33,157 Because we were doing the work... doing the legwork, 578 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,992 and you thought you were just gonna wing it. 579 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:43,292 You were obviously being an asshole. You've always been an asshole. 580 00:41:43,375 --> 00:41:46,462 Just as much as you have the capacity to be really wonderful, 581 00:41:46,545 --> 00:41:48,923 you have as much capacity of being an asshole. 582 00:41:54,136 --> 00:41:55,930 [Sandi] So maybe I was an asshole, 583 00:41:56,013 --> 00:41:58,891 but I just wanted us to keep going, no matter what. 584 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,185 There was no time to think. 585 00:42:02,853 --> 00:42:06,440 Georges was shooting us from a bridge overlooking the track. 586 00:42:23,582 --> 00:42:24,583 [Georges] Train. 587 00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:33,926 [Sandi] I heard the train even before I heard his warning. 588 00:42:34,009 --> 00:42:35,094 [Georges laughing] 589 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,328 Do you think it was fun for him to dick us around like that? 590 00:42:43,352 --> 00:42:44,603 Of course. What do you think? 591 00:42:55,489 --> 00:42:58,784 With two weeks left to go, we ran out of money. 592 00:43:00,744 --> 00:43:04,290 Georges said he needed just $10,000... 593 00:43:04,873 --> 00:43:07,167 or the production would have to be shut down. 594 00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:13,716 Sophie and I felt we'd come too far to let this happen. 595 00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:19,597 So Georges drove us from ATM to ATM. 596 00:43:22,474 --> 00:43:24,059 And over the next few nights... 597 00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:29,148 Sophie and I withdrew all of our savings. 598 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:33,611 We never told a soul. 599 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:39,742 After shooting wrapped, 600 00:43:39,825 --> 00:43:43,370 Sophie, Jasmine and I were completely spent. 601 00:43:44,913 --> 00:43:47,291 But we had pulled off the impossible, 602 00:43:47,374 --> 00:43:48,626 we made a movie! 603 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:53,047 [upbeat music playing] 604 00:44:05,851 --> 00:44:07,895 Sophie went back to LA. 605 00:44:07,978 --> 00:44:09,813 Jasmine went back to New York. 606 00:44:10,814 --> 00:44:12,399 I went back to England. 607 00:44:14,109 --> 00:44:18,864 Leaving Georges in Singapore to process the 70 cans of film 608 00:44:18,947 --> 00:44:21,075 and to tell us what the footage looked like. 609 00:44:22,034 --> 00:44:25,579 None of us had seen a single frame of what we had shot. 610 00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:31,125 And so... 611 00:44:32,336 --> 00:44:33,337 I waited. 612 00:44:37,549 --> 00:44:38,550 And I waited. 613 00:44:42,388 --> 00:44:43,806 And I waited. 614 00:44:51,313 --> 00:44:52,606 Christmas went by. 615 00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:56,151 New Years went by. 616 00:44:57,903 --> 00:45:00,447 Finally, a package arrived... 617 00:45:01,407 --> 00:45:02,950 from Georges Cardona. 618 00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:10,874 [Georges] I hope you're fine. 619 00:45:14,378 --> 00:45:16,547 I hope you managed to open your bottle of wine. 620 00:45:17,172 --> 00:45:18,882 Don't drink it all at one time. 621 00:45:20,134 --> 00:45:24,179 Listen to classical music. Piano, Chopin, 622 00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:25,931 Beethoven. 623 00:45:26,974 --> 00:45:28,142 It's very soothing. 624 00:45:29,518 --> 00:45:31,645 Okay, that's it for now. 625 00:45:33,105 --> 00:45:34,606 I'll be sending you some stuff. 626 00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:37,818 [click] 627 00:45:38,902 --> 00:45:41,822 [Sandi] And so I waited some more. 628 00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:46,952 Summer was approaching again. 629 00:45:47,953 --> 00:45:51,206 And that was when Jasmine thought she might have to go back to Singapore, 630 00:45:51,707 --> 00:45:52,958 to edit the film. 631 00:45:54,501 --> 00:45:55,711 Just read it... 632 00:45:55,794 --> 00:45:58,172 "He thinks that both Sophie and I are overreacting... 633 00:45:58,964 --> 00:46:01,383 and falling into unnecessary fits of paranoia." 634 00:46:04,386 --> 00:46:06,388 [phone ringing] 635 00:46:07,014 --> 00:46:09,850 Because of where I was working at, it would have been possible for me 636 00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:13,270 to edit the film, finish the film, do everything. 637 00:46:16,482 --> 00:46:17,482 [phone is put down] 638 00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,986 [Sandi] I finally received another tape. 639 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:23,780 [Georges] Hi. 640 00:46:24,823 --> 00:46:27,075 First of all, the telephone rang... 641 00:46:27,743 --> 00:46:30,788 and it was, well, it's New York calling. 642 00:46:31,663 --> 00:46:34,625 Your very best friend called today. 643 00:46:36,001 --> 00:46:39,379 At three o'clock in the morning she was watching TV and she was... 644 00:46:39,755 --> 00:46:40,839 "Can you hear me? 645 00:46:41,465 --> 00:46:44,092 We were wondering how the film is doing?" 646 00:46:46,303 --> 00:46:47,888 So I said, "Who is we?" 647 00:46:47,971 --> 00:46:51,475 She said, "Oh, come on, we, the people in this part of the world." 648 00:46:52,768 --> 00:46:57,105 So she's truly American, she speaks like, "We, the people of the United States." 649 00:46:58,023 --> 00:46:59,900 Um, anyway... 650 00:47:00,984 --> 00:47:03,070 So I decided I better make this recording 651 00:47:03,153 --> 00:47:08,242 before any more strange calls come through. 652 00:47:10,744 --> 00:47:11,744 [click] 653 00:47:12,412 --> 00:47:15,207 [Sandi] That was the last we heard from him. 654 00:47:19,545 --> 00:47:20,671 He was gone. 655 00:47:21,463 --> 00:47:22,840 And so was Shirkers. 656 00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:32,724 It really hit me like a ten-ton truck. 657 00:47:32,808 --> 00:47:35,102 That really exhausted... 658 00:47:35,185 --> 00:47:39,606 I think I just, like all that energy just zapped out of me in that one instant. 659 00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:43,777 There was a piece of my spirit that died. 660 00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:51,785 [Sandi] All I was left with... 661 00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:54,538 were these fuzzy memories... 662 00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,125 of being on the set... 663 00:48:00,752 --> 00:48:01,879 and just waiting. 664 00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:10,053 [Georges] Is Sandi in the picture? 665 00:48:11,972 --> 00:48:13,056 Camera ready. 666 00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:23,025 [Sandi] Georges took everything. 667 00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:27,070 From deep in the fuzz, 668 00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:29,907 I remembered one final incident. 669 00:48:31,074 --> 00:48:33,118 On the last day of the shoot, 670 00:48:33,201 --> 00:48:35,871 only Georges, Ronnie and I were left. 671 00:48:37,456 --> 00:48:40,334 We drove out to a patch of land by the airport... 672 00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:45,547 and built a very strange contraption. 673 00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:03,398 It was to make our young actor Romaino fly. 674 00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:07,903 But there was no such flying scene in my script. 675 00:49:14,368 --> 00:49:18,121 "How are we gonna get rid of the harness and the rope?" I asked Georges. 676 00:49:20,248 --> 00:49:23,835 "Don't worry," he said, "There's computers." 677 00:49:26,505 --> 00:49:30,968 After the long hours spent trying to film that completely made up scene, 678 00:49:33,261 --> 00:49:35,430 he popped open the camera by mistake. 679 00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:38,475 Or maybe it wasn't by mistake. 680 00:49:39,601 --> 00:49:41,561 And there was no film in it. 681 00:49:48,443 --> 00:49:49,483 Twenty-five years later... 682 00:49:50,737 --> 00:49:55,909 I'm now wondering if he was sending me a secret message only I would understand. 683 00:50:01,456 --> 00:50:05,085 There's a scene in my script where Haryo discovers 684 00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:07,337 there's no film in S's camera. 685 00:50:08,213 --> 00:50:11,466 She tells him, "It doesn't matter, because when you look through the hole 686 00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:14,720 and go 'click' it catches something 687 00:50:14,803 --> 00:50:17,305 or at least your mind catches something." 688 00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:21,852 You don't need film. Just the action of doing that helps you remember. 689 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:26,648 What was he trying to tell me? 690 00:50:27,691 --> 00:50:29,234 "Film or no film, 691 00:50:30,152 --> 00:50:32,154 you must remember this." 692 00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:43,665 [Sophie] Was he role-playing as a director? 693 00:50:44,666 --> 00:50:49,004 Did he just view this entire filmmaking venture 694 00:50:49,087 --> 00:50:51,798 as this psychological exercise? 695 00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:55,343 [Sandi] We were no longer magical kids who made a movie. 696 00:50:56,928 --> 00:50:59,181 We were just kids. 697 00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:06,396 Shirkers is such a free film because you were very free yourself. 698 00:51:07,439 --> 00:51:10,650 It was such a joy that you were willing to experiment 699 00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:12,736 and express anything on your mind. 700 00:51:14,863 --> 00:51:16,448 [Sandi] But when I lost Shirkers, 701 00:51:17,324 --> 00:51:18,784 I lost that too. 702 00:51:22,996 --> 00:51:27,417 Don't get me in it. I refuse to be part of this thing. 703 00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:32,339 I became a terrible 22-year-old film critic 704 00:51:32,422 --> 00:51:34,508 at the largest newspaper in Singapore. 705 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:47,479 And I made them let me interview my heroes. 706 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,489 A publisher approached me to write a fictionalized memoir of Shirkers... 707 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,283 but I said I wasn't ready. 708 00:52:01,660 --> 00:52:04,996 In the years that followed, I said no to interviewers 709 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,082 asking me to talk about Shirkers. 710 00:52:07,749 --> 00:52:11,795 It was something I just wanted to forget. 711 00:52:19,302 --> 00:52:21,972 Exactly five years after Shirkers wrapped... 712 00:52:22,722 --> 00:52:26,184 a mysterious package arrived at Jasmine's office. 713 00:52:28,436 --> 00:52:30,605 They were videotapes from Georges Cardona, 714 00:52:31,356 --> 00:52:35,193 which had to mean they contained Shirkers. 715 00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:40,699 I remember, maybe incorrectly, 716 00:52:40,782 --> 00:52:43,368 that it was a very kind of joyous occasion. 717 00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,331 [Sandi] Sophie, me and you were going to come... 718 00:52:45,412 --> 00:52:47,497 It was at my workplace, yeah. 719 00:52:47,581 --> 00:52:49,624 [Sandi] And we were gonna watch these tapes. 720 00:52:49,708 --> 00:52:52,002 Then they all turned out to be... 721 00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:53,461 [click] 722 00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:55,213 [static noise] 723 00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:00,302 Was it all just snow? 724 00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:03,597 Like there was really nothing. 725 00:53:04,931 --> 00:53:07,225 And I thought, "How cruel." 726 00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:11,813 I mean, what stakes did he still have in this mind game? 727 00:53:16,401 --> 00:53:18,737 Give us the material so we can finish the film. 728 00:53:27,412 --> 00:53:30,165 [Jasmine] We couldn't believe how ridiculous the situation was. 729 00:53:30,707 --> 00:53:32,375 So surreal, so unimaginable. 730 00:53:32,459 --> 00:53:33,835 [pen scratching furiously] 731 00:53:33,919 --> 00:53:35,879 [Sandi] I was beyond furious with Georges, 732 00:53:36,713 --> 00:53:38,965 but there was nowhere for me to direct my rage. 733 00:53:39,674 --> 00:53:41,593 So I wrote it all down. 734 00:53:44,638 --> 00:53:46,806 "I envisage some measure of a showdown... 735 00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:50,185 [tires screech] 736 00:53:50,644 --> 00:53:52,771 ...with pyrotechnics and slick editing." 737 00:53:59,527 --> 00:54:01,196 As far as I'm concerned, 738 00:54:01,279 --> 00:54:04,908 he should disappear deep and far into the Amazon jungle, where he belongs, 739 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:09,496 amongst his distinct relation, the buck-toothed boa. 740 00:54:10,914 --> 00:54:11,915 Lowlife." 741 00:54:11,998 --> 00:54:14,292 [grunting] 742 00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:24,386 [Sandi] We forced ourselves to move on. 743 00:54:42,445 --> 00:54:43,655 My baby cousin Yao... 744 00:54:44,614 --> 00:54:46,199 gave me this book of mosquitoes. 745 00:54:50,745 --> 00:54:53,707 But my baby cousins were no longer babies. 746 00:55:00,714 --> 00:55:02,299 You can't see anything. 747 00:55:04,384 --> 00:55:08,471 I made my peace that a chunk of my life would forever be lost. 748 00:55:12,517 --> 00:55:14,102 And I moved to New York... 749 00:55:14,853 --> 00:55:18,565 to attend film school at Columbia University. 750 00:55:21,026 --> 00:55:22,986 I know I was doing things backwards. 751 00:55:24,154 --> 00:55:25,196 First I made a movie, 752 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:27,741 then I became a film critic, 753 00:55:28,575 --> 00:55:30,410 then I went to film school. 754 00:55:33,038 --> 00:55:36,416 But that's what happens when you no longer have a map. 755 00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:44,883 I spent ten years in the wilderness. 756 00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:47,218 I tried to write that book... 757 00:55:47,927 --> 00:55:49,387 about the making of Shirkers. 758 00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:51,848 But I just couldn't do it. 759 00:55:53,933 --> 00:55:57,896 Instead, I wrote screenplays for films that would never be made. 760 00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:03,401 Shirkers was now a distant memory. 761 00:56:09,657 --> 00:56:12,369 Then it began sending me distress signals. 762 00:56:15,622 --> 00:56:18,792 I heard these pings when I saw Rushmore. 763 00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:35,767 And I heard them again... 764 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:38,061 during Ghost World. 765 00:56:49,656 --> 00:56:51,699 Then silence once more. 766 00:56:52,617 --> 00:56:54,327 [crickets chirping] 767 00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:56,996 But I knew now that it was alive. 768 00:56:58,456 --> 00:57:00,959 And I knew we had to meet again. 769 00:57:02,544 --> 00:57:05,797 Suddenly, I found myself in my mid-30s, 770 00:57:06,923 --> 00:57:09,217 in Los Angeles, of all places. 771 00:57:12,595 --> 00:57:14,389 I decided to turn to fiction. 772 00:57:16,015 --> 00:57:19,144 Because to write a novel, I didn't have to wait for anyone. 773 00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:21,437 It's just me... 774 00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:23,398 and my ghosts. 775 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,575 My novel, The Black Isle, was the story 776 00:57:33,658 --> 00:57:36,619 of a young woman with extraordinary powers 777 00:57:36,703 --> 00:57:40,498 who falls under the influence of a charismatic, but sinister man. 778 00:57:43,168 --> 00:57:45,628 Writing it felt like an exorcism. 779 00:57:47,172 --> 00:57:48,840 But I would be wrong about that. 780 00:57:51,759 --> 00:57:53,887 On September 11, 2011, 781 00:57:55,013 --> 00:57:57,891 I received an email from a familiar name. 782 00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:02,437 It was Georges's wife. 783 00:58:05,148 --> 00:58:08,276 She said Georges was dead. 784 00:58:24,334 --> 00:58:28,004 She also told me she had found 70 cans of film 785 00:58:28,087 --> 00:58:32,467 labeled Shirkers, and that they were all in perfect condition. 786 00:58:35,553 --> 00:58:40,683 I felt as if a curse, which lasted 20 years, had finally been lifted. 787 00:58:45,104 --> 00:58:49,484 His widow sent me box after box of things I hadn't seen in years. 788 00:58:51,486 --> 00:58:53,363 Georges had kept everything. 789 00:59:00,912 --> 00:59:04,666 I pulled out some of the slides that were taken in his studio. 790 00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:10,630 And there was Kaylene, 791 00:59:11,381 --> 00:59:13,007 the girl who played Monster, 792 00:59:13,883 --> 00:59:15,385 surrounded by my stuff. 793 00:59:19,722 --> 00:59:22,767 [camera shutter clicking] 794 00:59:23,601 --> 00:59:26,479 Now why would Georges keep everything... 795 00:59:27,272 --> 00:59:28,648 from Shirkers? 796 00:59:35,321 --> 00:59:37,865 He even wrote this letter on behalf of the crew. 797 00:59:41,035 --> 00:59:45,081 "At the moment, the film is in the editing suite. 798 00:59:45,164 --> 00:59:46,499 But we are almost there. 799 00:59:47,292 --> 00:59:50,003 Shirkers will be completed by October, 800 00:59:50,086 --> 00:59:52,839 hopefully in time for Cannes Festival. 801 00:59:54,132 --> 00:59:55,216 Have a nice day." 802 01:00:04,392 --> 01:00:08,896 Georges and his stories were so exotic that he was very hard to place. 803 01:00:09,522 --> 01:00:10,522 Um... 804 01:00:11,524 --> 01:00:16,195 I remember first he started describing movies from start to finish. 805 01:00:18,406 --> 01:00:21,909 And then he started telling stories about his own life. 806 01:00:21,993 --> 01:00:26,623 His family wanted to demolish a dam, 807 01:00:26,706 --> 01:00:28,458 I guess, on their property 808 01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:30,460 and make the river flow again. 809 01:00:30,543 --> 01:00:34,130 So Georges built a three-stage rocket. 810 01:00:35,006 --> 01:00:36,549 And his hand got exploded. 811 01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:42,221 He told me about his brother in Colombia 812 01:00:42,805 --> 01:00:46,976 running into the house with a knife in his femoral artery 813 01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:49,771 and bleeding to death on the kitchen floor. 814 01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:52,899 He got arrested, uh... 815 01:00:53,566 --> 01:00:56,319 by the police, who thought he was a Cuban burglar. 816 01:00:56,402 --> 01:00:59,405 From jail, he called an uncle in New Orleans 817 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:03,493 and that uncle said, "Come to New Orleans. I'll take care of you." 818 01:01:03,576 --> 01:01:08,373 And at one point my foot felt wet, 819 01:01:08,456 --> 01:01:12,919 and I realized he was in tears at his own stories 820 01:01:13,002 --> 01:01:15,338 and his tears were dropping on my foot. 821 01:01:16,297 --> 01:01:19,175 [Sandi] These were all stories Georges told Grace 822 01:01:19,258 --> 01:01:21,386 on the very first day they met 823 01:01:21,469 --> 01:01:25,973 in the swimming pool of the Raffles Hotel in 1985. 824 01:01:26,516 --> 01:01:30,186 And then I thought, "Good God, he doesn't even know my name." 825 01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:35,733 [man speaking French] No longer a child, 826 01:01:36,025 --> 01:01:38,111 Sandi Tan has turned into a detective 827 01:01:38,194 --> 01:01:43,241 who must travel across two continents to solve this 25-year mystery. 828 01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:48,621 [Sandi] Long ago, I went on the road with Georges. 829 01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:52,166 Now I was on the road again without him, 830 01:01:53,126 --> 01:01:54,293 but not really. 831 01:01:57,046 --> 01:02:01,259 It was so like Georges that he would want me to chase him down this way. 832 01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:04,595 - [woman] Hey. How are you? - Hi. 833 01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:08,224 - Oh, it's been a long time. - It's been a long time. 834 01:02:08,307 --> 01:02:09,809 [woman] But you haven't changed. 835 01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:20,153 Oh, Sandi, I have been dreading today. I'm glad to see you. 836 01:02:20,236 --> 01:02:21,964 - [Sandi] Yeah. - And I want to help you out. 837 01:02:21,988 --> 01:02:26,159 Whatever happened, I have no clue. I have no clue. 838 01:02:28,035 --> 01:02:30,455 [Sandi] The widow remains so horrified 839 01:02:30,538 --> 01:02:34,667 by her 25 years with Georges that she didn't want to be named. 840 01:02:39,338 --> 01:02:40,673 I don't even know how he died. 841 01:02:41,841 --> 01:02:44,010 [woman] He had a girlfriend who was, like, 21. 842 01:02:44,552 --> 01:02:48,264 Um, not only was she young, but she was from Belgium... 843 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:50,933 and a chemist. 844 01:02:51,017 --> 01:02:52,935 And he went to go to bed. 845 01:02:53,019 --> 01:02:55,563 His arteries closed up and he passed out... 846 01:02:56,981 --> 01:02:57,982 and died. 847 01:02:58,524 --> 01:02:59,358 [laughs] 848 01:02:59,442 --> 01:03:01,611 - He died like that, yeah. - 'Cause the funny thing... 849 01:03:01,694 --> 01:03:03,464 - [woman] He was too young, wasn't he? - Yeah. 850 01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:05,928 [woman] He was actually four years older than what we thought. 851 01:03:06,491 --> 01:03:08,618 [Sandi] When did you find out he was four years older? 852 01:03:08,701 --> 01:03:09,911 [woman] When we got divorced. 853 01:03:09,994 --> 01:03:14,290 He always told me that his passport had the wrong date 854 01:03:14,373 --> 01:03:16,083 and the wrong day. 855 01:03:16,959 --> 01:03:19,086 [Sandi] So even his birthday wasn't his birthday. 856 01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:20,797 [woman] It was two days before. 857 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,509 But by making it two days later, he got to be a different horoscope. 858 01:03:24,592 --> 01:03:25,592 [laughs] 859 01:03:25,843 --> 01:03:27,386 He was really a Cancer. 860 01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:32,892 [Sandi] The poetry of that was just pure Georges Cardona. 861 01:03:36,103 --> 01:03:37,939 [woman] Whatever Georges told me, I believed. 862 01:03:38,022 --> 01:03:42,109 I am a completely trusting person, you know, gullible, whatever. 863 01:03:42,610 --> 01:03:44,529 That's why this is all so hard for me. 864 01:03:45,238 --> 01:03:49,116 Every time he got involved with filmmaking it was a horrible experience for me. 865 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,453 - You know, this is expensive. - [Sandi] You paid for everything, right? 866 01:03:52,537 --> 01:03:55,581 - I mean... - [woman] No, not everything. But a lot. 867 01:03:56,415 --> 01:04:00,378 Wherever he was, as long as we were together, which was until 1998, 868 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,590 he carried that film with him and he always made sure it was air-conditioned 869 01:04:04,674 --> 01:04:06,968 and it was like, "Oh, my God." 870 01:04:07,051 --> 01:04:09,595 It was like a cross around my neck. 871 01:04:11,055 --> 01:04:14,684 I think though, in Singapore, he kept it at the studio that he had. 872 01:04:21,899 --> 01:04:25,236 [Sandi] She and Georges left Singapore for Perth, Australia, 873 01:04:25,862 --> 01:04:29,740 where he had her sink her savings into buying him a vineyard. 874 01:04:29,824 --> 01:04:34,203 Which he said he would learn to run by reading books on the subject. 875 01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:40,459 [woman] We had a little room, and it was in there. 876 01:04:40,543 --> 01:04:44,589 That's when I wanted to get rid of it, because it was taking up a whole room. 877 01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:50,636 [Sandi] When they got divorced two years after that, he moved to Seattle... 878 01:04:51,137 --> 01:04:53,681 and then to Houston, where he died... 879 01:04:55,224 --> 01:04:57,059 always carrying with him 880 01:04:57,143 --> 01:04:58,769 the 70 cans of film 881 01:04:58,853 --> 01:05:02,648 and boxes and boxes of scripts and storyboards. 882 01:05:02,732 --> 01:05:04,901 [woman] I thought, who does that? 883 01:05:13,451 --> 01:05:17,663 My wife reminded me this morning, my wife met Georges in 1985. 884 01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:23,377 And her thought was, "I think he must be in the Witness Protection Program." 885 01:05:23,461 --> 01:05:25,379 [laughing] 886 01:05:30,176 --> 01:05:33,346 I think former students and protégés of Georges, like you and me, 887 01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:37,767 remain obsessed with him, first of all, because we're storytellers, 888 01:05:37,850 --> 01:05:39,435 and he's a great story. 889 01:05:39,936 --> 01:05:42,980 I met Georges Cardona sometime in the late '70s. 890 01:05:43,397 --> 01:05:46,025 I learned through the local media 891 01:05:46,108 --> 01:05:49,570 that Georges had opened the legendary Lighthouse Media Center. 892 01:05:49,654 --> 01:05:51,906 So I would have been 21. 893 01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:54,659 And we instantly bonded, 894 01:05:54,742 --> 01:05:57,036 instantly there was chemistry there. 895 01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:59,580 I thought, "My God, I've died and gone to heaven," 896 01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:03,209 because here he had these cameras and tape recorders that I'd only read about. 897 01:06:03,292 --> 01:06:07,463 I mean, nobody south of the Mason-Dixon Line, probably, 898 01:06:07,546 --> 01:06:09,465 had professional Super 8 equipment. 899 01:06:10,091 --> 01:06:12,051 And Georges had that kind of charisma. 900 01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:16,180 I mean, he had this uncanny way of making adventure happen in your life, 901 01:06:16,263 --> 01:06:18,599 or at least the anticipation of adventure. 902 01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:26,899 [Sandi] I asked the widow... 903 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,569 for a Georges Cardona tour of New Orleans. 904 01:06:36,701 --> 01:06:40,162 Oh, this is where Georges lived, he lived on the left, 905 01:06:40,246 --> 01:06:42,039 in that little garage apartment. 906 01:06:42,748 --> 01:06:43,749 You see it? 907 01:06:48,087 --> 01:06:50,756 When we first got married, we both worked for the same company. 908 01:06:51,549 --> 01:06:53,801 I did renderings of mausoleums. 909 01:06:53,884 --> 01:06:58,514 I was a horrible renderer of mausoleums. [laughter] 910 01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:05,396 And the place where we had our shop, it was called the University Section. 911 01:07:06,355 --> 01:07:07,875 [Sandi] What was the name of the shop? 912 01:07:10,234 --> 01:07:12,069 [woman] Lighthouse Media Center. 913 01:07:13,112 --> 01:07:14,112 And, um... 914 01:07:15,031 --> 01:07:17,283 now I'm looking for Maple Street. 915 01:07:17,658 --> 01:07:20,828 I think it was where this gray house is. 916 01:07:21,412 --> 01:07:26,000 Maybe it was where this yellow house is. It just looks totally different now. 917 01:07:26,751 --> 01:07:29,751 It was somewhere around here, I can't believe I can't remember where it was. 918 01:07:30,421 --> 01:07:33,466 How could it have disappeared? Right here... 919 01:07:33,549 --> 01:07:36,052 [Sandi] We spent hours looking for the film center 920 01:07:36,135 --> 01:07:38,095 that Georges had set up with her money. 921 01:07:38,179 --> 01:07:40,848 [woman] We lost $36,000, but... 922 01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:46,979 I must have been totally... Maybe I was brainwashed. Who knows? 923 01:07:55,738 --> 01:07:57,198 [woman] Georges wrote to me. 924 01:07:57,281 --> 01:08:00,951 We were staying in Cambridge, England at that point and said, 925 01:08:01,035 --> 01:08:04,163 "I'm going to send somebody to you. She's a genius. 926 01:08:04,246 --> 01:08:06,082 She's mostly self-taught. 927 01:08:06,665 --> 01:08:07,665 She needs you." 928 01:08:08,751 --> 01:08:11,796 [Sandi] He thought she might encourage me to write a screenplay, 929 01:08:12,713 --> 01:08:16,884 just as he had once talked her into writing a screenplay for him. 930 01:08:18,052 --> 01:08:21,013 Just before I met him I had started writing my first novel, 931 01:08:21,347 --> 01:08:25,684 and he asked me if I would collaborate 932 01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:27,895 on a movie project with him. 933 01:08:27,978 --> 01:08:31,982 He wanted to make a noir set in New Orleans, 934 01:08:32,066 --> 01:08:33,859 and he was calling it Night Decoy. 935 01:08:37,238 --> 01:08:40,407 What he proposed was for me to come to New Orleans... 936 01:08:40,991 --> 01:08:45,955 and he would talk to me. I would record it, 937 01:08:46,038 --> 01:08:49,250 and then I would go home and make a film script out of it. 938 01:08:50,876 --> 01:08:54,880 There was a man and two women, uh, 939 01:08:55,589 --> 01:08:58,050 a tough, hard-boiled woman named Audrey... 940 01:08:58,634 --> 01:09:02,763 and a sweet Asian named Chelly. 941 01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:07,101 And this man obsesses about Audrey 942 01:09:07,184 --> 01:09:08,936 and is... 943 01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:13,649 videotaping her without her knowing in her apartment. 944 01:09:14,900 --> 01:09:20,364 There was a constant feeling of Peeping Tom -ism to Georges. 945 01:09:22,449 --> 01:09:25,202 He never came on to me, personally. 946 01:09:25,786 --> 01:09:28,664 I think Georges was good with women in another way. 947 01:09:29,206 --> 01:09:33,169 I think he could get from them what he wanted, 948 01:09:33,252 --> 01:09:36,046 and what he wanted wasn't always sex. 949 01:09:37,214 --> 01:09:41,343 He got me to work on his dreams 950 01:09:41,427 --> 01:09:44,305 for probably four or five years 951 01:09:44,388 --> 01:09:46,390 instead of writing my own stuff. 952 01:09:46,473 --> 01:09:48,350 It's always been a mystery. 953 01:09:48,434 --> 01:09:49,768 Good Lord. How... 954 01:09:50,227 --> 01:09:53,480 Uh, how did I become an intern? 955 01:09:54,106 --> 01:09:58,235 He had this really uncanny way of helping you 956 01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:00,613 feel like you could achieve your dream project, 957 01:10:01,238 --> 01:10:04,074 but then when you got closer to achieving your dream project, 958 01:10:04,158 --> 01:10:05,868 he felt the need to sabotage it. 959 01:10:06,785 --> 01:10:09,705 So I wrote this slasher film called The Last Slumber Party. 960 01:10:10,122 --> 01:10:12,791 And it was meant to be kind of the culmination, 961 01:10:12,875 --> 01:10:16,462 the graduate school of the Lighthouse Media Center group. 962 01:10:16,545 --> 01:10:19,506 Georges was the director of photography, but also... 963 01:10:20,174 --> 01:10:21,383 the guru. 964 01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,429 So years later, I had some discretionary income 965 01:10:25,512 --> 01:10:27,514 that I could put back into my filmmaking. 966 01:10:27,598 --> 01:10:31,227 So I ordered all the film negative from Motion Picture Labs in Memphis, 967 01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:33,145 which is where Georges had sent the film, 968 01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:35,940 and Georges had an ongoing relationship for years with these people. 969 01:10:36,023 --> 01:10:38,817 Except that some of the negative was missing. 970 01:10:41,028 --> 01:10:43,489 I have a feeling that Georges did something with it. 971 01:10:43,572 --> 01:10:47,034 I can't prove it, but it certainly would not be inconsistent 972 01:10:47,117 --> 01:10:49,036 with other things that he had done. 973 01:10:49,703 --> 01:10:52,289 [Sandi] I know it's terrible to feel a twinge of joy 974 01:10:52,373 --> 01:10:54,041 at someone else's misfortune, 975 01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:57,336 but hearing this made me feel less alone. 976 01:10:59,338 --> 01:11:03,801 The widow and I continue to search for remnants of her life with Georges. 977 01:11:05,177 --> 01:11:07,179 It's a nightmare driving. 978 01:11:07,263 --> 01:11:09,223 Been this way already and I can't find it. 979 01:11:09,932 --> 01:11:11,892 You all might not realize how happy 980 01:11:11,976 --> 01:11:14,937 this makes me that I can't even remember where it was. 981 01:11:17,815 --> 01:11:21,652 [Sandi] I hoped that by driving around with her I'd get closer to him. 982 01:11:22,861 --> 01:11:25,197 But all she had were dead ends. 983 01:11:28,575 --> 01:11:32,579 He had this perverse need to create a mythology. 984 01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:36,834 To speculate as to why Georges would go around 985 01:11:36,917 --> 01:11:39,628 claiming that he was the inspiration 986 01:11:39,712 --> 01:11:43,549 for the protagonist in Steven Soderbergh's Sex, Lies, and Videotape... 987 01:11:43,632 --> 01:11:46,302 I worked on the crew of Sex, Lies, and Videotape, 988 01:11:46,385 --> 01:11:49,513 with my dear, beloved best friend Larry Blake, 989 01:11:49,596 --> 01:11:52,558 also part of the original Georges Cardona mafia. 990 01:11:52,641 --> 01:11:55,144 And Georges felt jealous, 991 01:11:55,227 --> 01:11:58,188 threatened, left out, entitled, 992 01:11:59,064 --> 01:12:01,692 that two of his protégés 993 01:12:01,775 --> 01:12:03,902 had this association with this film 994 01:12:03,986 --> 01:12:05,654 that had become a cause célèbre. 995 01:12:06,488 --> 01:12:08,615 We all worked on this film that won the Palme d'Or. 996 01:12:08,991 --> 01:12:13,203 And it's entirely in keeping with Georges's personality and character, 997 01:12:13,287 --> 01:12:16,957 as I understand it, that he would concoct such a story. 998 01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:33,849 [birds chirping] 999 01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:36,852 [Sandi] When we were trying to get hold of him over the years, 1000 01:12:36,935 --> 01:12:38,729 like, there would be no trace. 1001 01:12:38,812 --> 01:12:42,149 The only thing that's on there is this missing persons... 1002 01:12:42,232 --> 01:12:44,651 [woman] That was, to me, the most bizarre thing, 1003 01:12:44,735 --> 01:12:47,321 to see him smoking, 'cause I never saw him smoke. 1004 01:12:47,404 --> 01:12:49,031 And he never smelled like smoke. 1005 01:12:49,114 --> 01:12:51,867 - [Sandi] Yeah. - That's so weird, he smoked. [chuckles] 1006 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,707 [Sandi] I think it's funny that she was struck by the sight of him smoking, 1007 01:12:58,791 --> 01:13:02,044 and not by the fact that someone went online 1008 01:13:02,127 --> 01:13:04,755 and put up a Missing Persons page for him. 1009 01:13:05,547 --> 01:13:08,759 [woman] You know, what was real and what wasn't, I have no clue. 1010 01:13:10,135 --> 01:13:12,930 - He did say his mother was French. - [Sandi] Was she? 1011 01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:15,432 - I don't know. - But you met her, was she French? 1012 01:13:15,516 --> 01:13:18,102 [woman] Well, I couldn't speak to her, she only spoke Spanish. 1013 01:13:19,103 --> 01:13:22,189 He never told me he was French. I would have remembered that. 1014 01:13:22,272 --> 01:13:26,276 I mean, he told me that he was born on a ship 1015 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,613 that had departed Germany en route for Colombia, 1016 01:13:29,696 --> 01:13:32,825 departing Germany because his father was German. 1017 01:13:32,908 --> 01:13:37,121 And I just accepted that as gospel for the longest time 1018 01:13:37,204 --> 01:13:41,625 until one day, I was having a conversation with his niece Catalina, 1019 01:13:41,708 --> 01:13:43,460 and she started laughing. 1020 01:13:44,753 --> 01:13:46,422 I said, "Why? What's so funny?" 1021 01:13:46,505 --> 01:13:49,800 She says, "He told you that story too?" 1022 01:13:50,634 --> 01:13:54,471 He was born in a little mountain village in the hills of Colombia. 1023 01:13:55,180 --> 01:13:59,351 There was always a sense that he was not just self-conscious 1024 01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:01,728 about perceptions of his class, 1025 01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:03,313 but also his ethnicity. 1026 01:14:03,397 --> 01:14:06,525 He was always very vague about his ethnicity. 1027 01:14:06,817 --> 01:14:08,110 [meows] 1028 01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:11,019 [Stephen] The last time I actually spoke with Georges... 1029 01:14:11,447 --> 01:14:13,323 was sometime in the early '90s 1030 01:14:13,407 --> 01:14:16,368 and he had already moved to Singapore and I was still here in New Orleans. 1031 01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:19,371 And as was invariably the case, 1032 01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:23,500 Georges began talking about a dream project that he was concocting. 1033 01:14:24,376 --> 01:14:26,545 And he wanted me to be part of it, 1034 01:14:26,628 --> 01:14:28,755 and it was making this movie in Singapore. 1035 01:14:32,259 --> 01:14:34,428 "Come to Singapore, you'll be my right-hand man. 1036 01:14:34,511 --> 01:14:36,513 We'll do this feature film in Singapore." 1037 01:14:39,558 --> 01:14:42,978 The pattern that emerges is that Georges 1038 01:14:43,061 --> 01:14:48,066 would feel threatened by his protégés being successful. 1039 01:14:49,318 --> 01:14:53,280 And the way that he dealt with that threat was to take action 1040 01:14:53,363 --> 01:14:57,868 by absconding with physical manifestations of these people's dreams. 1041 01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:06,126 You know, in your case it was film, in my case it was film and equipment. 1042 01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:10,005 Other people, it was also film, soundtracks, whatever. 1043 01:15:13,175 --> 01:15:15,677 [Sandi] Steve and I are now forever bound, 1044 01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:20,265 not as fellow victims, but as fellow detectives... 1045 01:15:20,891 --> 01:15:23,018 and therefore, friends. 1046 01:15:24,937 --> 01:15:28,023 I had one last shred of Georges: 1047 01:15:28,106 --> 01:15:32,986 an old letter from Georges's mother with a return address in Arabi, 1048 01:15:33,070 --> 01:15:34,363 outside New Orleans. 1049 01:15:34,696 --> 01:15:35,781 It's beautiful. 1050 01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:39,159 The widow tried to talk us out of going there. 1051 01:15:40,452 --> 01:15:42,704 [woman] I can tell you Arabi is not pretty. 1052 01:15:42,788 --> 01:15:44,039 - [Sandi] Okay. - [laughing] 1053 01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:46,875 [woman] Arabi is horrible. 1054 01:15:48,961 --> 01:15:51,380 [Sandi] So, of course, I had to go there. 1055 01:16:17,281 --> 01:16:19,032 It's not raining now so it's good. 1056 01:16:20,158 --> 01:16:21,868 Do you need this, the matte box? 1057 01:16:22,452 --> 01:16:26,331 [dogs barking in distance] 1058 01:16:31,378 --> 01:16:35,048 [thunder rumbling in distance] 1059 01:16:36,341 --> 01:16:38,218 [dogs continue barking] 1060 01:16:42,472 --> 01:16:45,100 [heavy wind blowing, leaves rustling] 1061 01:16:45,892 --> 01:16:49,021 And this made me think of that scene in Blow Up, 1062 01:16:49,896 --> 01:16:53,317 when David Hemmings returns to the scene of the crime... 1063 01:16:54,109 --> 01:16:56,236 only to find nothing. 1064 01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:07,998 After unpeeling Georges Cardona layer by layer, 1065 01:17:08,582 --> 01:17:12,836 I realize there's nothing there but movies. 1066 01:17:14,713 --> 01:17:17,341 There were characters he wanted to emulate. 1067 01:17:18,842 --> 01:17:21,345 And there were characters he pretended to be. 1068 01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:26,016 But the one who was closest to who he really was... 1069 01:17:26,099 --> 01:17:27,643 was Nosferatu. 1070 01:17:29,728 --> 01:17:31,563 Trying to become immortal... 1071 01:17:32,105 --> 01:17:34,650 by feeding on young people's dreams. 1072 01:17:35,984 --> 01:17:40,906 Georges Cardona had his own very bizarre love, right? For Shirkers. 1073 01:17:41,740 --> 01:17:44,409 I thought that when he absconded 1074 01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:46,620 with all of the reels 1075 01:17:46,703 --> 01:17:50,624 that it would just be strewn outside, 1076 01:17:50,707 --> 01:17:53,627 and the humidity would basically eat up the film, 1077 01:17:53,710 --> 01:17:55,045 and that would be it. 1078 01:17:55,629 --> 01:17:56,880 But he loved those reels. 1079 01:17:57,756 --> 01:18:00,592 We all fell in love with the film in different ways, 1080 01:18:00,676 --> 01:18:03,011 and his was like, I don't know, man, 1081 01:18:03,095 --> 01:18:05,430 it was like necrophiliac. [laughs] 1082 01:18:07,099 --> 01:18:09,101 [Sandi] He might have loved our reels, 1083 01:18:09,184 --> 01:18:11,603 but he threw all the sound recordings away. 1084 01:18:13,605 --> 01:18:17,317 Shirkers was returned to us a mute. 1085 01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:22,072 [no audible sound] 1086 01:18:42,509 --> 01:18:44,511 [film reel thrumming] 1087 01:18:46,596 --> 01:18:49,224 I'm seeing everything, first time. 1088 01:18:50,642 --> 01:18:52,269 More than 20 years later. 1089 01:19:00,694 --> 01:19:03,113 There you are. God, look at you. 1090 01:19:04,281 --> 01:19:06,366 You know, you guys were adorable. 1091 01:19:06,450 --> 01:19:08,952 [stuttering] Okay, I really... 1092 01:19:09,035 --> 01:19:12,873 [stuttering] When I saw the footage, 1093 01:19:12,956 --> 01:19:16,626 I just thought that, "Gee whiz, this film should've been finished." 1094 01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:21,381 It would have been a rallying call that it's okay to try anything. 1095 01:19:32,017 --> 01:19:34,978 [Sophie] You know, Shirkers is like the ghost 1096 01:19:35,061 --> 01:19:39,441 in between the lines of books written on Singapore film history, 1097 01:19:39,524 --> 01:19:44,154 and for me, Shirkers has this very palpable absence. 1098 01:19:45,530 --> 01:19:47,991 And I have this voice going, "No, no, no, 1099 01:19:48,074 --> 01:19:49,785 Shirkers needs to be there." 1100 01:19:53,121 --> 01:19:55,707 [Sandi] For years, I felt like a crazy person 1101 01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:58,251 talking about this film that didn't exist. 1102 01:19:59,461 --> 01:20:01,129 But I was vindicated. 1103 01:20:01,713 --> 01:20:05,592 Everyone I remembered being fantastic was fantastic. 1104 01:20:16,061 --> 01:20:19,064 And I was as rotten as I thought I was. 1105 01:20:21,942 --> 01:20:25,111 There were so many surprises in this time capsule. 1106 01:20:26,112 --> 01:20:28,323 The fashion choices of the era. 1107 01:20:34,663 --> 01:20:39,417 Jasmine defiantly chewing gum after gum was officially banned. 1108 01:20:47,926 --> 01:20:52,097 And then, there was the landscape of a Singapore 1109 01:20:52,180 --> 01:20:54,266 I had let myself forget. 1110 01:21:30,927 --> 01:21:33,763 [birds singing] 1111 01:22:22,604 --> 01:22:24,814 Jasmine didn't come along on that road trip 1112 01:22:24,898 --> 01:22:26,900 that Georges and I took before Shirkers... 1113 01:22:29,235 --> 01:22:32,280 but years later, we took another one. 1114 01:22:37,452 --> 01:22:39,287 I was taking her back to New York. 1115 01:22:41,414 --> 01:22:43,750 Maybe not the same New York she once knew. 1116 01:22:45,001 --> 01:22:47,587 But she wasn't the same person anymore either. 1117 01:22:51,758 --> 01:22:53,927 [Jasmine] Why do they make it look like it's cardboard? 1118 01:22:54,844 --> 01:22:57,681 You Americans, so wonderful. 1119 01:22:58,264 --> 01:23:00,058 [Sandi] I was getting married in Paris, 1120 01:23:00,684 --> 01:23:02,811 Paris, Las Vegas. 1121 01:23:02,894 --> 01:23:05,814 Hey, here we go. There they are. 1122 01:23:07,691 --> 01:23:09,776 [indistinct chatter] 1123 01:23:09,859 --> 01:23:10,944 [Jasmine] Oh, yeah. 1124 01:23:11,027 --> 01:23:12,195 [Sandi] The light's not on. 1125 01:23:12,278 --> 01:23:13,655 - Hey? - The light's not on. 1126 01:23:13,738 --> 01:23:17,117 [Sandi] Look at this. I step out of my own wedding... 1127 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,535 Is the video...? 1128 01:23:18,618 --> 01:23:21,121 ...and instantly begin yelling at Jasmine. 1129 01:23:27,877 --> 01:23:29,504 You are not a camel. 1130 01:23:30,171 --> 01:23:32,882 It's not heavy. I'm holding it. 1131 01:23:33,299 --> 01:23:34,634 [Sandi] She was right. 1132 01:23:35,427 --> 01:23:36,845 I was an asshole. 1133 01:23:41,725 --> 01:23:44,019 I wanna be the Elvises! 1134 01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:46,146 It's so good! 1135 01:23:46,730 --> 01:23:49,441 [Sandi] Jasmine had just made what is still 1136 01:23:49,524 --> 01:23:52,360 the most adventurous movie ever created in Singapore. 1137 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,202 Let's rock! 1138 01:24:15,258 --> 01:24:20,013 [Sandi] Of the three of us, Jasmine is the only one who still lives in Singapore. 1139 01:24:23,308 --> 01:24:25,643 And she's the noblest of us by far. 1140 01:24:26,269 --> 01:24:29,898 And this is to raise awareness for the screenwriters, yeah! 1141 01:24:33,359 --> 01:24:35,361 - [boy] Like that? - Like that. 1142 01:24:35,779 --> 01:24:37,363 Say, "Writers unite!" 1143 01:24:37,447 --> 01:24:39,157 - Writers unite! - Yeah! 1144 01:24:40,075 --> 01:24:43,119 [Sandi] She fights Injustice wherever she sees it. 1145 01:24:44,287 --> 01:24:47,707 We still grab lunch whenever we're in the same city, 1146 01:24:47,791 --> 01:24:51,461 and we still ambush our friend Yek Keak who never leaves his home. 1147 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:52,921 Yek Keak! 1148 01:24:54,464 --> 01:24:55,632 You guys, come on in. 1149 01:24:56,049 --> 01:24:57,425 Uh, and then we'll probably cut. 1150 01:24:57,509 --> 01:25:00,595 Because we have to clear the studio room and reset our blocking. 1151 01:25:00,845 --> 01:25:02,639 Whenever you're ready. Rolling? 1152 01:25:04,599 --> 01:25:08,186 [Sandi] But whenever Shirkers comes up, even after all these years, 1153 01:25:09,229 --> 01:25:12,398 we descend into the same circle of hell. 1154 01:25:13,441 --> 01:25:17,695 This is so typically you that you're gonna put everybody under the magnifying glass 1155 01:25:17,779 --> 01:25:21,407 and put everyone in a little glass tank terrarium except yourself. 1156 01:25:21,491 --> 01:25:24,119 That's how you always do these things, you always... 1157 01:25:24,202 --> 01:25:26,788 - Like what? Like when? - All the time. 1158 01:25:26,871 --> 01:25:29,457 Because this is like for your amusement. 1159 01:25:29,916 --> 01:25:32,752 How many times can I keep telling you that it was extremely annoying 1160 01:25:32,836 --> 01:25:36,589 and it was extremely disappointing and it was extremely draining 1161 01:25:36,673 --> 01:25:40,009 and that it was the relationships that drained 1162 01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:45,098 and not the production itself that exhausted us? 1163 01:25:47,725 --> 01:25:48,725 Thank you. 1164 01:25:51,813 --> 01:25:53,857 This 23-year battle... 1165 01:25:54,315 --> 01:25:56,818 um, is a double-edged sword for me, 1166 01:25:56,901 --> 01:25:57,986 because... 1167 01:25:58,361 --> 01:26:01,739 uh, you and Jasmine and I are bonded in a way 1168 01:26:01,823 --> 01:26:04,701 that I don't share a bond with anyone else. 1169 01:26:05,577 --> 01:26:07,662 I don't have to talk to you every day. 1170 01:26:07,912 --> 01:26:11,249 I don't have to talk to you, you know, on a regular basis, 1171 01:26:11,332 --> 01:26:14,878 but there is that instant sort of very visceral and emotional connection. 1172 01:26:16,421 --> 01:26:20,216 You gave me this notebook when you arrived. 1173 01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:23,678 So I have I have not seen this for 23 years. 1174 01:26:23,761 --> 01:26:25,763 - This is your notebook. - This is my notebook. 1175 01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:30,018 So I'm analyzing and breaking down the script 1176 01:26:30,101 --> 01:26:33,188 for, like, symbolism and metaphor and allusions. 1177 01:26:34,731 --> 01:26:39,027 This notebook contains the kernel for my profession, 1178 01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:40,110 unbeknownst to me. 1179 01:26:41,237 --> 01:26:45,158 "Scene seven, interior, S's house, afternoon." 1180 01:26:45,241 --> 01:26:49,579 Quote: "The toys would be physical manifestations of her personality. 1181 01:26:49,662 --> 01:26:52,498 They must reflect, HER"... in all caps. 1182 01:26:53,124 --> 01:26:55,793 "Is she seeking immortality through her dreams?" 1183 01:26:55,877 --> 01:26:56,920 [laughs] 1184 01:26:57,003 --> 01:26:59,881 See, even then, I was digging, right, for subtext. 1185 01:27:00,798 --> 01:27:04,177 I'm gonna be chair of the department actually in the fall for three years. 1186 01:27:04,260 --> 01:27:06,638 You? You're gonna be chair of the department? Wow. 1187 01:27:06,721 --> 01:27:09,933 You should've said... So you're the chair of Film? 1188 01:27:10,016 --> 01:27:11,768 - Yeah. - Vassar? 1189 01:27:11,851 --> 01:27:16,064 It's like I'm the next senior person, but anyway... 1190 01:27:17,565 --> 01:27:20,693 So, yeah. So what's next? 1191 01:27:23,488 --> 01:27:26,366 [cat purring] 1192 01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:33,581 [Sandi] Making this film, I've come to realize 1193 01:27:33,665 --> 01:27:36,542 that Georges's ghost will never truly leave me. 1194 01:27:38,169 --> 01:27:39,587 And I've learned to think: 1195 01:27:40,838 --> 01:27:41,923 "That's okay." 1196 01:27:43,549 --> 01:27:47,136 [Georges] Let's wait for the other side. And see what it brings. 1197 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,272 [Sandi] For more than 20 years, 1198 01:27:57,355 --> 01:28:00,817 Ben talked about the soundtrack that Georges stole from him. 1199 01:28:00,900 --> 01:28:02,902 [humming] 1200 01:28:05,154 --> 01:28:06,656 [Sandi] Finally, one day I said, 1201 01:28:07,365 --> 01:28:09,367 why don't you just play it for me? 1202 01:28:11,786 --> 01:28:13,788 [guitar playing] 1203 01:29:34,077 --> 01:29:37,455 [Jasmine] You have this affection towards the film because of the time in your life. 1204 01:29:37,538 --> 01:29:39,957 You know, we laughed about it, we cried about it, 1205 01:29:40,041 --> 01:29:41,376 we bitched about it. 1206 01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:44,867 [Sophie] It's strange because it doesn't exist as a film, 1207 01:29:44,921 --> 01:29:46,255 and yet it does. 1208 01:29:46,339 --> 01:29:49,217 Right? It exists here for me and exists here. 1209 01:29:50,301 --> 01:29:54,764 And so what you're doing is not bringing Shirkers back to life 1210 01:29:54,847 --> 01:29:56,808 but giving it an afterlife... 1211 01:29:57,475 --> 01:29:58,684 and back to us. 1212 01:30:01,437 --> 01:30:04,690 [Jasmine] It's more than a physical time capsule. 1213 01:30:04,774 --> 01:30:08,945 It's not just scenery and disappearing buildings, 1214 01:30:09,278 --> 01:30:12,031 but it's also people in those places. 1215 01:30:22,458 --> 01:30:26,838 [Sandi] I know I'll never get all of my friends in the same place 1216 01:30:26,921 --> 01:30:29,048 at the same time ever again. 1217 01:30:31,467 --> 01:30:32,593 Let's do the F again. 1218 01:30:33,761 --> 01:30:35,388 [Sandi] But here they all are... 1219 01:30:37,140 --> 01:30:38,182 with me. 1220 01:30:49,152 --> 01:30:51,821 - [laughs] - [cat meows] 1221 01:30:51,904 --> 01:30:52,904 Oh. 1222 01:30:53,406 --> 01:30:55,241 [instrumental music playing] 1223 01:30:57,577 --> 01:30:58,995 [no audible dialogue] 1224 01:31:04,167 --> 01:31:05,585 [no audible dialogue] 1225 01:31:21,225 --> 01:31:23,227 [music resolves] 1226 01:31:28,900 --> 01:31:30,443 [camera shutter clicks] 1227 01:31:33,279 --> 01:31:36,365 [Sandi] "Exterior, highway, afternoon. 1228 01:31:39,243 --> 01:31:41,287 The sound of wind." 1229 01:31:45,458 --> 01:31:46,834 [gun cocking] 1230 01:31:50,421 --> 01:31:51,422 Hey, look. 1231 01:31:51,506 --> 01:31:53,716 [Sandi] In all golden afternoons 1232 01:31:53,799 --> 01:31:55,301 there are movers, 1233 01:31:55,718 --> 01:31:56,886 there are shakers, 1234 01:31:57,470 --> 01:31:58,471 and then, 1235 01:31:59,180 --> 01:32:00,723 there are shirkers. 1236 01:32:00,806 --> 01:32:01,891 [gunfire] 1237 01:32:03,559 --> 01:32:05,561 [laughter] 1238 01:32:11,442 --> 01:32:13,444 [indie synth-pop music playing] 1239 01:32:26,290 --> 01:32:30,378 ♪ Have you ever stopped living In a photograph? ♪ 1240 01:32:30,461 --> 01:32:33,881 ♪ Will you ever stop living In a photograph? ♪ 1241 01:32:33,965 --> 01:32:36,175 ♪ You're a selfie queen ♪ 1242 01:32:36,259 --> 01:32:41,389 ♪ But that don't mean anything at all ♪ 1243 01:32:42,181 --> 01:32:45,977 ♪ Did you get enough likes To get you through your day? ♪ 1244 01:32:46,060 --> 01:32:49,772 ♪ Do you have to post more Till you get your way? ♪ 1245 01:32:49,855 --> 01:32:54,652 ♪ Have you been like this Your entire life? ♪ 1246 01:32:57,405 --> 01:33:01,492 ♪ I think I'm gonna leave my cell phone At home today ♪ 1247 01:33:01,576 --> 01:33:05,288 ♪ And I hope you call While I'm away ♪ 1248 01:33:05,371 --> 01:33:10,585 ♪ When I get home and see I'll just let it be ♪ 1249 01:35:32,977 --> 01:35:34,395 [Ben] Let's do the F again. 1250 01:36:27,281 --> 01:36:28,908 [film roll ends, click] 100693

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