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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,580 --> 00:00:05,580 Start the clock. 2 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:38,320 Thank you. How are you doing? 3 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:41,100 Thank you, everybody. 4 00:00:43,540 --> 00:00:45,600 I appreciate it. How are you doing? 5 00:00:47,620 --> 00:00:48,620 All right. 6 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Thank you, people. 7 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,880 I appreciate it. 8 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Thank you for coming out. 9 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:59,000 Oh, you're going to laugh tonight. 10 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:06,580 First of all, we're going to get to all the hearts. news, but let's talk about 11 00:01:06,580 --> 00:01:07,800 what we're really thinking about. 12 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,180 Tomorrow's Valentine's Day. I said that for all the men watching who just went, 13 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:14,320 oh, shit. 14 00:01:15,380 --> 00:01:16,380 It is. 15 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:19,380 So, you excited about that, Valen? 16 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,500 It's a stupid holiday, but you know what? 17 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,360 People get into it. You know, St. 18 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Valentine was a Catholic priest. That's why to this day we exchange candy for 19 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,740 sex. That's why. 20 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:43,480 And, you know, there's always 21 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,640 that Valentine's Day movie they put out. You know what the one this year is? 22 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:49,840 Wuthering Heights. Are you into it? I'm so into it. 23 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,060 It's all about the forbidden love of Catherine and Heathcliff. 24 00:01:56,750 --> 00:02:02,210 Of course, it's very modernized. Now, when their forbidden love gets busted, 25 00:02:02,290 --> 00:02:04,770 it's because they see them on the jumbotron. 26 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:09,449 And, oh, 27 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:11,450 it's so romantic. 28 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:16,250 You've got to feel the romance in the air. I mean, I know a guy who said his 29 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:20,710 girlfriend wanted to be swept off her feet and carried off to the tropics. So 30 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:21,710 reported her to ICE. 31 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,380 News out of Minnesota, people. We've done it. We've liberated St. Paul from 32 00:02:35,380 --> 00:02:36,560 Somalia. All right. 33 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,260 Ice is leaving town, so that's why you're feeling extra patriotic. Of 34 00:02:44,260 --> 00:02:47,080 could also be because Monday is President's Day. 35 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:49,500 Yeah. 36 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:58,760 No, no. This is the day we pay tribute to all the past presidents, even those 37 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,760 the Epstein file. 38 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:04,470 And, oh, no, no. 39 00:03:06,590 --> 00:03:11,150 Our president now, Donald Trump, he takes very seriously his place in the 40 00:03:11,150 --> 00:03:15,750 of presidents. He's going to honor it, Munda, by posting pictures of all the 41 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:17,810 presidents, some of them not as apes. 42 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:26,830 But I tell you, this Epstein story, 43 00:03:26,990 --> 00:03:28,210 that is not going away. 44 00:03:28,890 --> 00:03:33,290 The Attorney General, Pam Bondi, she was before the House Judiciary Committee. 45 00:03:33,610 --> 00:03:37,130 This week, they were talking to her about how she mishandled this, and she 46 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:44,090 calmly answered all their questions. I'm kidding, of course. She broke out Jeff 47 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:46,470 Ross's big book of insults for roasters. 48 00:03:49,970 --> 00:03:54,010 At one point, she said to a congressman, you're a washed -up loser lawyer. 49 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:59,680 Begs the question, what is the opposite of legally blonde? 50 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,300 Oh, I kid, Sam. 51 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,400 I kid, Sam. By the way, he's got a great Valentine's Day card for her lover. It 52 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,200 says, kiss me, you fucking asshole. 53 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Now... 54 00:04:20,459 --> 00:04:25,180 This is all fun, but we have to get to the story that really matters, which is 55 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:26,019 the EPA. 56 00:04:26,020 --> 00:04:31,820 Little history lesson, Richard Nixon, a Republican, okay, he started the EPA, 57 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,420 the Environmental Protection Agency, in 1970. 58 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Trump has always said it's a hoax, the whole thing, but climate change, he 59 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:42,880 scientists, climate scientists, he says, are stupid people. 60 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:47,740 He says, the idea that greenhouse gases cause climate change, there's no basis 61 00:04:47,740 --> 00:04:52,040 in fact. He thinks it's just some bullshit that people made up out of 62 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,860 get rich. You know, like crypto. 63 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:04,900 And, yes, his EPA director, Lee Selgin, said this is the 64 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:09,080 single, this is the quote, single largest deregulatory action in American 65 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,620 history. Probably true. Also the biggest dick move in American history. 66 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:20,780 Guys, this is not made up. You know, this is science. 67 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:23,260 Doug Burnham, he's the interior secretary. 68 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,740 Listen to this, the way they all line up behind this nonsense. He said, CO2, 69 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:33,720 carbon, was never a pollutant. He said, when we breathe, we emit CO2. 70 00:05:34,780 --> 00:05:36,980 Okay, Doug, you know what? Let's try this little experiment. 71 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:42,590 Tonight, when you get home, go in the garage, close the door, turn the car on, 72 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:46,570 and let's see if carbon is a pollutant. 73 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:55,030 You have to 74 00:05:55,030 --> 00:05:56,530 be a little sympathetic. 75 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:00,570 A lot of the conservative America is very butthurt these days. They're still 76 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:02,690 recovering from the halftime show. 77 00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:10,220 That big bunny did. They hated it because it was in Spanish, but now 78 00:06:10,220 --> 00:06:12,960 pretending they hated it because it was smutty. 79 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,280 And it was sexual, very overtly sexual with dirty lyrics. Well, what do you 80 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:18,940 expect? He's not called Good Bunny. 81 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:29,100 Trump said, nobody could understand a word the guy said. 82 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,560 I never understood a word Mick Jagger said either. I still enjoy the show. 83 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,980 I looked at you like Olympic curling. I had no idea what the fuck was happening, 84 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:48,500 but I was like, everyone looks like they're having fun. Fuck it, I'm in. All 85 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:52,880 right, we've got a great show. We have former National Security Advisor H .R. 86 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,640 McMaster and Stephanie Ruhl. 87 00:06:55,260 --> 00:07:00,200 But first up, he is a professor and social psychologist who wrote the best 88 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,760 -selling book, The Anxious Generation. 89 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:05,640 He recently co -authored another one on the subject, The Amazing Generation, 90 00:07:06,020 --> 00:07:10,720 Your Guide to Fun and Freedom in a Screen -Filled World. Jonathan Haidt is 91 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,720 here. 92 00:07:12,460 --> 00:07:13,460 John, 93 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:17,880 how are you doing? I want to see you back here. 94 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:20,980 Okay, well. 95 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,560 And look, I'm not going to lie to you, they stand for pretty much anybody who 96 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,560 walks out here. 97 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,380 But I'm going to say to you, you really deserve it. I mean, this book that you 98 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:40,100 wrote, you started with a thesis that the phone, the smartphone, and all 99 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:45,020 contained in it, and the social media, not benign, and adults need to do 100 00:07:45,020 --> 00:07:46,320 something about it. 101 00:07:46,940 --> 00:07:50,240 And you weren't the only one. We've got Tristan Harris on this show and other 102 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,320 people. But you were the main one out there. And this book did a lot of the 103 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,340 heavy lifting. And now this is actually happening. So a grateful nation says 104 00:07:58,340 --> 00:07:59,340 thank you to you. 105 00:08:02,620 --> 00:08:07,740 And when I say it's actually happening, Australia, right? Am I right? The first 106 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:10,200 country now to ban phones for kids. 107 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:12,580 Social media. Social media account. 108 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,800 You just got through the world tour pretty much. Where is this happening and 109 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,200 what are they doing? So it's now happening. It's going to happen 110 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,500 year. Everywhere? 111 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:28,140 That's my prediction. 112 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,560 So here's what happened. 113 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Australia, their law went into effect on December 10th. And there was news 114 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,740 coverage all over the world. And a lot of the news coverage was people saying 115 00:08:39,740 --> 00:08:42,220 journalists saying, hey, why can't we do that here? 116 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:45,060 And once everybody saw that. 117 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:48,640 then everything changed in a really interesting way. I was just in Europe, 118 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,000 wherever I would go, I was knocking on open doors. People wanted to do this. 119 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,420 What I think happened is you had Steve Pinker on here last year, and he has a 120 00:08:56,420 --> 00:08:59,860 book out called When Everyone Knows That Everyone Knows. It's about the 121 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:03,740 emperor's new clothes moment, when suddenly the kid calls out the emperor 122 00:09:03,740 --> 00:09:08,100 clothes, and private knowledge, because everyone already knew that, but private 123 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:09,360 knowledge becomes public knowledge. 124 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,780 And so what I think happened was... 125 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Once everybody saw that everybody was praising Australia, then everybody knew 126 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,820 that everybody wanted to do this. 127 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,360 And suddenly, all the politicians realized, wait, the people are way out 128 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:22,979 of me. 129 00:09:22,980 --> 00:09:24,800 I want to get back out ahead. 130 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:31,160 And so I met with President Macron in Davos. I met with leaders of labor and 131 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,280 conservatives in the UK. I met with people in the EU. Wherever I went, there 132 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,200 parents. And parents everywhere have seen this. And parents who are 133 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,260 are very aware of public... 134 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:46,480 sentiment. So this past month has been an extraordinary period of global 135 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,860 This is the tipping point, like this month, especially given what's going on 136 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:54,740 LA with the trials. So it's a different world now than it was two months ago. 137 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:00,200 And that's all true. 138 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:05,560 But your book, The Anxious Generation, I mean, look, I had a book that hit 139 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:06,920 number one for one week. 140 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:13,140 Last year. Yours is on the charts for how long has this been? 95 weeks. 95 141 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:20,000 weeks. I just wanted to say, it's a victory for 142 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,900 the issue itself about social media. 143 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:28,860 It's also a victory for books. That a public intellectual, the term is sort of 144 00:10:28,860 --> 00:10:30,180 out of vogue, but you are one. 145 00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:31,900 There are not many left. 146 00:10:32,260 --> 00:10:35,700 And the idea of a book changing people's minds. 147 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,660 still can happen. I just want to take that victory for a second. 148 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:41,840 Because it was very influential. 149 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:43,760 This stuff caught people's attention. 150 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:48,900 You just mentioned the trials. What are you talking about? Tell us what you, I 151 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:51,300 know what you mean, the one that's in LA that's starting. Sure, sure. 152 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:57,340 So imagine that there was a consumer product that had killed hundreds of kids 153 00:10:57,340 --> 00:11:02,040 and that had harmed or damaged literally millions of kids. But this consumer 154 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,170 product... had what seemed to be special protection where nobody could sue them. 155 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:10,050 That would be a really bad situation, and that's where we've been with social 156 00:11:10,050 --> 00:11:14,330 media. Hundreds of kids are dead, and a lot of those parents came to L .A. today 157 00:11:14,330 --> 00:11:18,930 because for the first time in history, the companies are being held 158 00:11:19,090 --> 00:11:23,150 or at least they're going to face a jury for what they did to the kids. 159 00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:33,520 And what is the young woman who is bringing this case? What is she 160 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:39,060 She's claiming that she was on, I mean, the people being sued. First of all, two 161 00:11:39,060 --> 00:11:40,560 of them already settled, right? 162 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,860 Snapchat and TikTok. 163 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,300 Two out of the thousands already settled. 164 00:11:43,580 --> 00:11:45,840 But Snapchat and TikTok are already out. 165 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,560 That's right. On this one case, this first Bellwether case. Right. But this 166 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,600 Meta. These are the people who bring you Instagram. 167 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:55,540 And this is Google, the people who bring you YouTube. 168 00:11:55,820 --> 00:11:57,560 That's right. Okay. So they're on trial. 169 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,920 That's right. 170 00:11:58,940 --> 00:12:03,200 What is she saying happened that she was hooked? They purposely hook it because 171 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,700 it does remind me a lot of the tobacco trials. Exactly. Because it's the same 172 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:13,560 dynamic where the tobacco companies were up there saying, well, first of all, 173 00:12:13,580 --> 00:12:18,660 we didn't know it was addictive. Right. They did know it was addictive and they 174 00:12:18,660 --> 00:12:19,660 just didn't care. 175 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:24,030 They were giving you this delivery system. So it's sort of the same kind of 176 00:12:24,030 --> 00:12:26,510 thing. You have to be responsible for something that's addictive. 177 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:31,650 What is she saying? She's saying that she got hooked on these things and it 178 00:12:31,650 --> 00:12:32,509 her depressed? 179 00:12:32,510 --> 00:12:33,509 Yeah. 180 00:12:33,510 --> 00:12:40,230 When you start spending 8, 10, 15 hours a day just on social media, the average 181 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:44,690 American teen spends 5 hours a day on social media, about a quarter spending 7 182 00:12:44,690 --> 00:12:47,650 hours just on social media, the ad and all the other stuff. 183 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,780 You're going to be losing out on sleep. You're going to be losing out on social 184 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:53,800 relationships. You're going to be losing out on all the things that kids need. 185 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,860 And I don't know the details of that case, what exactly she's alleging about 186 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:58,860 chain of damage. 187 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,320 But almost all these, so many of these kids, the case is that they became 188 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,480 addicted, and then that affects their mental health. That pulls them into dark 189 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,860 places. That puts them in touch with sexual predators. 190 00:13:10,670 --> 00:13:14,350 And what a lot of these initial trials are going to hinge on, and we saw Adam 191 00:13:14,350 --> 00:13:18,010 Mosseri testify yesterday, the head of Instagram, he said, oh no, there's no 192 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:19,010 evidence that it's addictive. 193 00:13:19,210 --> 00:13:23,350 He said, heavy users, they have problematic use. 16 hours a day she was 194 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:26,310 sometimes. That's just, that's problematic, that's not addiction. 195 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:30,750 But these things were designed by people who studied slot machines. 196 00:13:31,370 --> 00:13:32,690 Slot machines are addictive. 197 00:13:33,010 --> 00:13:36,090 These people, a lot of them took a course at Stanford on persuasive design. 198 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:40,370 learned how to use intermittent rewards, variable ratio reward schedules to hook 199 00:13:40,370 --> 00:13:44,990 people. And they did it. They talked about it. We have transcripts. We have 200 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:45,990 internal reports. 201 00:13:46,070 --> 00:13:50,950 They did 31 studies, my team has found. If you go to medisinternalresearch .org, 202 00:13:51,070 --> 00:13:55,050 we've categorized their own study showing that this is addictive. 203 00:13:55,370 --> 00:13:57,290 They talk about it. They use the word addiction. 204 00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:59,790 And so now for these guys to say, oh. 205 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,080 It's not addictive, just like the tobacco industry. 206 00:14:03,540 --> 00:14:06,500 And would they let their kids? I don't think the tobacco industry, I don't 207 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:09,480 the tobacco guys let their kids smoke. A lot of these guys don't let their kids 208 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,140 use their products. But there's a big difference, I think. 209 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,460 And I think comparing it to the tobacco industry is actually unfair to the 210 00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:16,339 tobacco industry. 211 00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:19,740 Because the tobacco executives never saw children suffer. 212 00:14:20,580 --> 00:14:23,620 They knew that they were going to give them cancer eventually, but they didn't 213 00:14:23,620 --> 00:14:25,540 have to look at children suffering and dying. 214 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:28,620 And these guys have to face the reality. 215 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,420 of these parents coming to them with the photos. 216 00:14:31,660 --> 00:14:33,040 It was so moving this morning. 217 00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:39,680 About 40 parents came to L .A. There was a memorial showing, like, tombstones 218 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,000 that are like cell phones showing the block screens with these beautiful kids 219 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 them. From suicide. 220 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,420 All sorts of things. So a lot of them are fentanyl deaths. 221 00:14:48,830 --> 00:14:52,950 Because, as one young woman said to me, everybody buys drugs on Snapchat. 222 00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:57,710 And you had a piece on gambling a week or two ago. When you make it 223 00:14:57,710 --> 00:15:01,650 and free, anyone can get any drug this afternoon. 224 00:15:02,190 --> 00:15:03,190 Really? 225 00:15:04,490 --> 00:15:06,590 I mean, that's terrible. 226 00:15:09,010 --> 00:15:10,310 I didn't know that. 227 00:15:10,690 --> 00:15:15,690 So a lot of the deaths are fentanyl. I mean, a kid buys Percocet or Xanax, but 228 00:15:15,690 --> 00:15:16,810 it has fentanyl, and they're dead. 229 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:20,170 And that's what a lot of them are. And the others are suicide after 230 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:21,730 cyberbullying or sextortion. 231 00:15:22,030 --> 00:15:26,650 In one case, one mother I was talking to, her daughter was cyberbullied into 232 00:15:26,650 --> 00:15:28,430 suicide. And this was during COVID. 233 00:15:28,770 --> 00:15:33,910 And the kids broke into the funeral to continue the bullying after the grave. 234 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:38,890 And what I take from this as a social psychologist isn't, oh, those bastards, 235 00:15:38,970 --> 00:15:39,970 oh, those cruel kids. 236 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,880 What kind of sick environment are we raising our kids in that this sort of 237 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,960 is now normal? Kids were always bastards, John. 238 00:15:47,740 --> 00:15:48,740 They were. 239 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:52,920 They were shitty when I was a kid. You have to teach the kid to be decent. 240 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,340 You never read Lord of the Flies when you were a kid? 241 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,580 Kids are shit. They are. The little Nazis, they have to be taught to be 242 00:16:00,580 --> 00:16:01,580 civilized. 243 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,200 But I take your point. 244 00:16:05,210 --> 00:16:08,270 An important point you make when you're writing about this lately, I see, is 245 00:16:08,270 --> 00:16:11,710 that there should be no parental exemptions, because I think that's what 246 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:15,590 people want now. They want some exemptions out of this. You say you'd 247 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:19,970 have no laws than parental exemptions. Yeah. So the key thing, you know, we can 248 00:16:19,970 --> 00:16:23,350 talk about, oh, we need to make this safer. Oh, we need more education. We 249 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:25,370 talk about all that stuff, but none of that works. 250 00:16:25,790 --> 00:16:28,670 All over the world, parents are fighting. They're having the same fight 251 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:32,630 their kids. Mom, everyone else has a phone. I'm starting fifth grade. 252 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,460 Everyone else has Instagram. 253 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:39,080 And so parents are in a trap, kids are in a trap, and we all have to give in 254 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,400 because everyone else gave in. So that's called a collective action trap. 255 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,160 And so lots of countries are in Europe and Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, lots 256 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,860 of countries are going to raise the age to 16. 257 00:16:50,420 --> 00:16:54,740 But in some countries, they're saying, you have to be 16 to open an account. 258 00:16:54,740 --> 00:17:00,520 if your parents give permission, then you can open an account at 13 or 14. 259 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,760 And my attitude is, What the hell? Why bother doing it? That just puts us all 260 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,240 back in the trap. So we need a clean, like a global norm. Like, really, it 261 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,540 should be 18. This is an adult activity. 262 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,319 But I'm saying, let's just, if we all agree to do 16, we can get it. We can 263 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:17,300 it fast. And that takes the pressure off of the kids to spend their, to give up 264 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:20,760 their childhood to scrolling. And now you have a graphic novel that's a book 265 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,980 really for the kids themselves to explain it. Just plug it one more time 266 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:26,099 you leave. What's the title? 267 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:27,980 It's called The Amazing Generation. 268 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:31,780 And it's for kids 8 to 13 years old. Right. 269 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:35,320 And it's got a graphic novel about what happens to kids when they get a phone. 270 00:17:35,420 --> 00:17:38,750 And our goal with my co -author, Catherine Price, we weren't. I'm going 271 00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:42,230 preach to the kids. We let older kids talk to them. They hear from older kids, 272 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:46,590 members of Gen Z, who really regret losing their childhood, spending so much 273 00:17:46,590 --> 00:17:50,290 it doing this, rather than talking to their grandfather before he died. When 274 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:53,170 you're getting life advice from Gen Z, you know what to talk about. 275 00:17:53,790 --> 00:17:56,470 Thank you, John, for your service to humanity. 276 00:17:57,050 --> 00:17:59,130 My favorite public intellectual. 277 00:17:59,690 --> 00:18:01,950 Jonathan Haidt. Okay, let's meet our panel. 278 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,360 Hello. Okay, here's a former national security advisor, host of the Hoover 279 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,880 Institute's podcast, Today's Battlegrounds, an author about war with 280 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,060 former Lieutenant General H .R. McMaster. General, great to have you 281 00:18:22,820 --> 00:18:27,060 And there's Stephanie Ruhl. She's host of MSNOW's The 11th Hour and co -host of 282 00:18:27,060 --> 00:18:30,240 YouTube Lives, It's Happening with Bill Sheehan Ruhl, airing every Wednesday. 283 00:18:30,260 --> 00:18:31,400 Stephanie Ruhl. 284 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:33,220 That's what it is. 285 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Okay. 286 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,400 Well, I think I'm going to start tonight by saying elections have consequences 287 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,620 because I want to talk about this EPA thing that's going on. I always thought 288 00:18:44,620 --> 00:18:48,060 when Trump first ran, the most damage he possibly could do would be the 289 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:50,620 environment because he was always talking about what a hoax. 290 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,400 global warming was. And look, I mean, have sometimes they exaggerated, have 291 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,320 some, I don't think they did themselves any favors sometimes by predicting like, 292 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:03,480 oh, well, you know, we're going to hit past the tipping point if we don't do 293 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,900 something by 2012. And then we did. And now, but it's still really happening, 294 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880 guys. It's not a hoax. Okay. 295 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,720 So here's what's going on. We had something called the engagement rule in 296 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,960 This said the feds got to regulate fossil fuels because we believe they are 297 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,100 danger to public health. 298 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,140 Well, what happened yesterday? 299 00:19:23,860 --> 00:19:28,760 Trump ended government's legal authority to regulate basically what causes 300 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:34,880 pollution. The Environmental Protection Agency cannot now protect it against 301 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,880 pollution. 302 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,540 This is like the Navy can't use ships. 303 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:43,700 But why are you surprised? 304 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,240 I'm not surprised. 305 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:47,380 I'm angry. 306 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:52,040 A year and a half ago, during the campaign, the president invited a bunch 307 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,440 and gas executives to Mar -a -Lago, and he said to them, if you deliver me a 308 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,240 billion dollars in campaign donations, I will pay you back in spades. And that's 309 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,560 exactly what we're getting here, a huge win for oil, gas, and big coal. 310 00:20:04,990 --> 00:20:06,250 Promises kept, he could say. 311 00:20:06,550 --> 00:20:09,770 Well, you know, Bill and Stephanie, you don't need washed -up generals to talk 312 00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:14,130 about climate science. But I'm a believer that global warming is a real 313 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:16,250 right? Man -made carbon emissions are a problem. 314 00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:20,490 But what we were doing wasn't working anyway, really. I mean, what we do in 315 00:20:20,490 --> 00:20:24,970 United States actually doesn't matter if China is building 40 coal -fired power 316 00:20:24,970 --> 00:20:29,370 plants a year. So what I think we should do is come together and work together 317 00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:30,670 on a market solution. 318 00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:34,910 that actually works. Just like it happened with the fracking revolution, 319 00:20:34,990 --> 00:20:39,690 The largest reduction in man -made carbon emissions in history didn't come 320 00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:40,569 a government regulation. 321 00:20:40,570 --> 00:20:43,510 It came from cheap natural gas displacing coal. 322 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:50,010 That, I think, plus nuclear fission, that gets us off the path toward global 323 00:20:50,010 --> 00:20:52,790 warming and gets us cheaper energy. 324 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:56,890 But are we working, do you actually foresee us in the current environment 325 00:20:56,890 --> 00:21:00,850 working in concert with other countries to do that? 326 00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:03,410 Well, I mean no I think what we can do 327 00:21:04,170 --> 00:21:07,970 But we were working in concert with other countries, supposedly, and it 328 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:13,490 work. So what you need is a market solution that will get adopted in 329 00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:18,630 India, in China, because you're providing energy security for people who 330 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:19,630 be lifted out of poverty. 331 00:21:19,650 --> 00:21:23,090 China's already moving way ahead of us on this, as well as many other things. 332 00:21:23,210 --> 00:21:27,730 But I pulled this card from years ago because I thought you were here. It's 333 00:21:27,730 --> 00:21:31,650 Pentagon. The Pentagon had something called assessment risk that they used to 334 00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:32,730 do. I don't think they do it anymore. 335 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:34,710 I think, from 2014. 336 00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:38,770 This is, you know, I don't think things have changed. The world's only gotten 337 00:21:38,770 --> 00:21:42,990 hotter. They said climate change poses an immediate threat to national 338 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:44,570 This is the Pentagon. 339 00:21:45,030 --> 00:21:46,510 It's your group, okay? 340 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,180 Because of things like pandemic disease, global poverty, food shortages, 341 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,600 humanitarian crisis. In other words, messes that are going to be created 342 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,400 of climate change that the army might have to step in and help. And today, one 343 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,920 of the things Trump did, he directed the Pentagon to buy more electricity from 344 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,920 coal. 345 00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:09,380 I mean... 346 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:14,010 You know what this is? I think this is like every reaction has an unequal and 347 00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:15,810 opposite reaction in the Trump administration. 348 00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:19,610 Why the hell is the Pentagon involved in climate change? They should be. They've 349 00:22:19,610 --> 00:22:23,690 got, I think, a more narrow mission to focus on, which is to deter war, defend 350 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:24,690 the nation. 351 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:28,990 Now what you get, though, to the Pentagon embracing sort of climate 352 00:22:28,990 --> 00:22:33,390 catastrophism, which they were doing, I think, in 2014, which, by the way, 353 00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:39,010 there's been a reversal in that appraisal by Stephen Kuhn and others 354 00:22:39,010 --> 00:22:44,570 said, hey, it's not as catastrophic as people had said it was. And so if you 355 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:50,130 spend, you know, 10 percent of your GDP, these are economists, to reduce the 356 00:22:50,130 --> 00:22:53,970 risk of like a 5 percent risk, you know, a generation ahead. 357 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:56,750 That doesn't make sense. We need different types of solutions. 358 00:22:57,190 --> 00:23:00,710 Okay, this sounds brilliant, but I don't think there's a single person in the 359 00:23:00,710 --> 00:23:04,370 administration reading one word of that. We're not even employing America First 360 00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:09,750 policies. This is a continuation of Trump First policies. And if you don't 361 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:13,250 there's a big coal donor behind this, then I've got a bridge to sell you in 362 00:23:13,250 --> 00:23:14,250 Michigan. 363 00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:23,930 Again, it's not all happening right now. The worry is that what happens in the 364 00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:29,830 future. I mean, when the planet gets hotter, it does melt the permafrost. 365 00:23:30,050 --> 00:23:35,970 When the permafrost melts, it releases crazy amounts of methane and carbon that 366 00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:36,809 were trapped. 367 00:23:36,810 --> 00:23:40,630 That just makes the cycle even worse, because then that makes the planet 368 00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:44,750 melts more ice, more goes up there. That's the kind of thing we worry about 369 00:23:44,750 --> 00:23:48,910 the future. Dick Cheney once said about terrorism, if there's even a 1 % chance, 370 00:23:49,860 --> 00:23:55,180 we've got to act like it's 100%. Wouldn't this be just as much? I mean, I 371 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:56,180 have to put it all on you. 372 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,340 I mean, you don't have to be. I would say, listen, I think this is, you know, 373 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:02,220 what your show is about is that, hey. 374 00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:06,280 that we can be rational human beings. Yes, I hope. We can begin, you know, 375 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,700 what we can agree on. So I think what happens is the people who steal all the 376 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:14,100 oxygen, you know, from this debate, are the people, you know, maybe climate 377 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,900 catastrophists on the one hand and climate deniers on the other. I think 378 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,580 vast majority of Americans are somewhere in between. 379 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,480 And we can recognize that what we really do need are these market -based 380 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,900 solutions because really it doesn't matter what we do if China... 381 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,740 India, developing economies, you know, in Africa, Latin America, don't adopt 382 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:37,980 solutions that provide energy security but also reduce carbon emissions. Yeah, 383 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:40,340 don't think China's on the page that it's a hoax. 384 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:45,560 I don't think China's on this page that it's just all made up and we should go 385 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,460 more toward coal. I mean, they may not be there yet, but that is their goal. 386 00:24:50,780 --> 00:24:55,060 I mean, they're still building a hell of a lot more coal -fired plants, you 387 00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:58,320 know, and they're doing solar, they're doing kind of all the... what they 388 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,720 want is energy security. 389 00:24:59,980 --> 00:25:02,860 And if you're worried about the environment, they've destroyed their 390 00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:06,620 environment. So a lot of what we've done is like greenwashing ourselves by 391 00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:11,540 offshoring stuff to Trump. If the Sierra Club would consider, I don't know, a 392 00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:15,620 monument to the president, a few trophies with his face on it, I think 393 00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:16,620 good. I think we're good. 394 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,680 You're an economist. 395 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,920 I am. 396 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,959 All right, okay. 397 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,120 So Trump is going to say the cars are going to be $2 ,000 less, and they may 398 00:25:30,940 --> 00:25:33,920 You know, that may be, and that might turn a lot of heads. 399 00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:38,460 Or if you want to drive in a 1980s gas guzzler while you're smoking cigarettes 400 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:42,340 with the windows closed, throwing Burger King out the window. But this is 2026. 401 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,180 I'm just saying what he's going to say. Don't yell at me. 402 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,140 This is his argument, okay, and it may be true. 403 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,780 Okay, but here's the interesting part about this. 404 00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:58,960 China, talking about China, the guy from Ford, the head of Ford, CEO, I think 405 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,120 his name is Jim Farley, went over there last year. 406 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:02,660 He said... 407 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,240 It's the most humbling thing I've ever seen. Their quality of their vehicles is 408 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,400 far superior to what I see in the West. Their Ford just lost $19 billion on 409 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,280 EVs. Trump says that's because they were forcing this on us. They were forcing 410 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,360 the EVs. That's why we're doing this. We're changing everything back to what 411 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,440 used to be and throwing gas guzzlers. 412 00:26:23,310 --> 00:26:29,110 Okay, I think the reason why is because not that we're forcing EVs on people, 413 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:35,610 because we made shittier EVs than China does. Ford lost $19 billion, and then 414 00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:39,010 this guy goes over there and says, he said, we're in a global competition with 415 00:26:39,010 --> 00:26:43,450 China, and it's not just EVs, and if we lose this, we do not have a future at 416 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:44,450 Ford. 417 00:26:44,889 --> 00:26:49,170 Well, you know, this is kind of a situation of our own making. With so 418 00:26:49,170 --> 00:26:52,670 industries, and you know this much better than I do, what happened is China 419 00:26:52,670 --> 00:26:56,610 draws you in. They co -opt you with the promise of cheap manufacturing. 420 00:26:56,910 --> 00:26:58,770 So guess where we started to manufacture batteries? 421 00:26:59,230 --> 00:27:04,030 China the highest end batteries in China where we're manufacturing a lot of our 422 00:27:04,030 --> 00:27:08,410 EVs Tesla and other companies manufacturing in China they promise you 423 00:27:08,410 --> 00:27:12,950 their market cheap manufacturing and then once they steal your IP they steal 424 00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:17,090 your technology they pick a Chinese winner subsidize the hell out of it shut 425 00:27:17,090 --> 00:27:22,040 out of their market manufacture at artificially low prices and take losses 426 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,220 that hardware or an EV and then dump it on the international market and drive 427 00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:29,400 you out of business. How many times do we have to go through that cycle? Okay, 428 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,500 you know what would be brilliant? 429 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,880 It's the United States. 430 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:36,620 got together with a bunch of our allies and created something like, I don't 431 00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:41,040 know, the Trans -Pacific Partnership, and these countries worked together to 432 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,220 battle China, who employs unfair trade practices. We did put together the Trans 433 00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:47,219 -Pacific Partnership. 434 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:52,100 It was President Obama, and the first thing Donald Trump did was tear it up. 435 00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:55,840 now here we are. He's launching a trade war that is not bringing an ounce of 436 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,720 manufacturing back, where the tariffs are costing the American people, and it 437 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,920 actually caused more to manufacture here. 438 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Yeah, 439 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:11,800 they said the tariffs apparently are going to cost 440 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,760 each American family like $1 ,000. 441 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,100 Who would have thunk it? 442 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,120 I mean, what a surprise! 443 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,380 I mean, also, they did something. 444 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,180 A group called the Democracy Perception Index, they did a survey of the 96 445 00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:30,360 countries. Three -quarters of them... 446 00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:32,460 prefer Beijing to Mar -a -Lago. 447 00:28:32,860 --> 00:28:37,100 Like, we're losing the popularity contest to China, which is not a good 448 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,280 I mean, the people are very nice, but the leadership and what China does on a 449 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,580 human rights level, on so many levels, is really quite evil. 450 00:28:46,540 --> 00:28:47,540 Absolutely. 451 00:28:49,659 --> 00:28:51,600 Here's where we are missing opportunities, 452 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,540 right? First of all, if you care about Chinese economic aggression, industrial 453 00:28:56,540 --> 00:29:01,180 espionage, subsidies, overcapacity, overproduction, dumping on the 454 00:29:01,180 --> 00:29:06,400 market, getting grip, an artificial grip on the most critical supply chains to 455 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,580 use that grip on those supply chains for coercive purposes, then we need 456 00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:12,740 collective action to work on that. But if you're kicking everybody in the ass, 457 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,940 you know, who could help you, maybe you're not going to get the cooperation. 458 00:29:15,260 --> 00:29:18,900 I mean, one of the things I used to say to the president, you know, There's a 459 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:22,480 reason why I was only there for 13 months. I would say, hey, I would say, 460 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,000 would say, Mr. President, if we shoot all of our allies to get to China, China 461 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,380 wins, you know? And so we should be working more cooperatively. Then just 462 00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:32,920 explain me the Canada thing. 463 00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:36,790 Maybe you have some insight into the thinking, because you mentioned the 464 00:29:36,930 --> 00:29:40,330 There's a bridge that Canada is building between, there's one there now, but 465 00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:44,650 they're building a better one, between, I assume it's over the Detroit River. 466 00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:46,190 Detroit and Ontario. 467 00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:47,049 Yeah, of course. 468 00:29:47,050 --> 00:29:51,890 Okay. Trump, this is Trump this week. As everyone knows, the country of Canada, 469 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:58,790 also known as Canada, has treated the United States very 470 00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:01,150 unfairly for decades. 471 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,680 How? 472 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,820 Canada is building a massive bridge between Ontario and Michigan. 473 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Prime Minister Carney, well that's inappropriate, he's called him Governor 474 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,200 Carney before, wants to make a deal with China which will eat Canada alive. 475 00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:19,240 We'll just get the leftovers. 476 00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:20,660 I don't think so. 477 00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:25,420 The first thing China will do is terminate all ice hockey. What the fuck 478 00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:26,420 talking about? 479 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:39,380 I can usually suss out something in this. I don't know where... 480 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:46,000 Why will China take over... 481 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,900 destroy hockey? 482 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:56,940 First of all... Canada is not only 483 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:58,600 responsible for hockey. 484 00:30:59,210 --> 00:31:01,150 It's also responsible for heated rivalry. 485 00:31:01,390 --> 00:31:07,510 So there is nothing greater in this country. But this bridge was paid for by 486 00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:10,710 Canada. The bridge was built with U .S. steel. 487 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:16,810 But this bridge will take toll money away from another bridge that connects 488 00:31:16,810 --> 00:31:22,610 Michigan and Canada. And that bridge is owned by a big Trump donor who on Monday 489 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:26,530 had a meeting with Howard Letnick, our Commerce Secretary, and immediately 490 00:31:26,530 --> 00:31:30,590 following that meeting, Howard Letton had called up the president, and poof, 491 00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:31,970 no longer want this new bridge. 492 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:36,590 Yeah, I think this is the kind of thing that is causing his popularity to go 493 00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:43,390 down. I mean, a number of things, economic things, but also even the 494 00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:48,430 person, I think, understands that there's always this self -dealing 495 00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:50,810 with everything that goes on. 496 00:31:51,050 --> 00:31:52,930 And, you know, we're still a democracy. 497 00:31:53,150 --> 00:31:55,990 You know, it's only early in the weekend, but... 498 00:31:57,450 --> 00:32:03,070 And the immutable laws of democracy are when you get weaker politically, which 499 00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:07,830 he is now, people do begin to stand up to you. We do see more people standing 500 00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:09,070 up. This Canada deal? 501 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,800 There are some Republicans who joined Democrats who said, we are not going 502 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,180 with your tariffs on Canada because they want to make a deal with China, who's 503 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:19,180 going to get rid of hockey. 504 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,260 And why is Carney going to China? 505 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,500 He's going to China because of the gratuitous insults. Like, what good does 506 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,180 do? With the meme that shows them as part of the United States. 507 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,260 And then to barrage their contributions. Okay, hey, they do need to spend more 508 00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:36,779 on defense. 509 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:40,900 But if you want the Golden Dome, not a bad idea. in my view, you need Canada. 510 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,700 So say, hey, guys, how about spending more on defense? 511 00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:50,200 I mean, we have legitimate issues with Canada, but the gratuitous insults, and 512 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,200 fought alongside Canadian soldiers. 513 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,400 They were incredibly tough, brave. 514 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,120 They were in one of the toughest parts of Afghanistan, and they took a hell of 515 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,880 lot of casualties in Kandahar province, fighting after the 9 -11 attacks against 516 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,880 our nation. 517 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:05,100 We love Canada. 518 00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:06,340 We love Canada. 519 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,060 He did shake the tree when it came to our NATO allies and said, pony up your 520 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,800 money. And you have to give him credit for that. I do, absolutely. 521 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,320 But listen, it's Valentine's Day. Let's get to the really important news 522 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,880 out of the White House is that there is a baby boom going on there. 523 00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:31,140 Usha Vance. 524 00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:34,870 pregnant, Carolyn Leavitt pregnant, and Stephen Miller's wife's wife. They're 525 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:37,810 all about to have children. You know, they love babies over there at the 526 00:33:37,810 --> 00:33:41,750 conservative side of America. I don't understand it, but they think we need 527 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:43,250 babies. I always think we need less. 528 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:45,650 Definitely less around me, ever. 529 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:49,630 So anyway, since there's such a baby boom going on at the White House, we 530 00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:53,070 thought we would show you what some of the things that are being bought these 531 00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:56,290 days for the baby shower that's upcoming. Would you like to see these? 532 00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:58,590 This is a MAGA baby shower. 533 00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:02,750 These are some very interesting stuff. For example, there's a onesie that 534 00:34:02,830 --> 00:34:03,830 not an anchor baby. 535 00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:11,750 Somebody's also getting a doll that cries liberal tears. 536 00:34:15,989 --> 00:34:19,670 There's a baby mobile with the faces of the cast of Fox and Friends. 537 00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:22,929 That's so great for the child. 538 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,780 A baby's first blanket pardon. 539 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,080 Exactly. Oh, this is interesting. Stroller nuts. 540 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,480 You know, that's like the... Well, 541 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,638 they love those. 542 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,580 Oh, a baby monitor that alerts you when your child is woke. 543 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,280 Autism -free infant Tylenol. That's very important. 544 00:34:58,540 --> 00:34:59,540 Oh, 545 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:02,340 the Venezuelan boat bath toys. 546 00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:10,800 And my favorite, a diaper that reads, don't claim 547 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,700 Trump, this is Biden's mess. 548 00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:16,340 Okay. 549 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:25,180 Okay. Now I have to ask. about the story that has just absolutely transfixed 550 00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:28,200 this nation, which is the kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's mother. 551 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,120 It's a sad story. I hope it will come out better than the news we've had so 552 00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:35,500 We still have our fingers crossed. 553 00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:40,460 But we seem to be in phase two now of the reporting. Phase one was we're 554 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:44,720 obsessed with this. Now I see all these articles analyzing why are we obsessed 555 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:45,720 with this. 556 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,660 My view is I don't want to become the kidnapped country. 557 00:35:50,030 --> 00:35:53,190 I mean, obviously, it's a humanitarian story and we care about people. 558 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:57,350 But, like, we've seen things come to this country that we didn't think would 559 00:35:57,350 --> 00:36:01,510 ever come, like pandemics and terrorism on a grand scale. 560 00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:08,250 You know, Mexico and some other countries around the world, you have to 561 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,970 wonder what's going to happen when you leave the house. 562 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:12,850 I don't want to be this country. 563 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:17,720 People are, I mean, this is what got Trump elected. We're going to get the 564 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,000 out. And then, of course, he went too far and he lost himself even on that 565 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,080 issue, which was his best issue with the voters. 566 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:27,160 But we don't want to become the kidnap country. Yeah. 567 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,520 Right? Absolutely. And, you know, who knows really who this kidnapper is at 568 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,680 stage. But if you look south of our border, there's a real problem. You 569 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,680 first of all. 570 00:36:36,730 --> 00:36:40,110 An unsecured border is a really bad idea, it turns out. And Trump, I think, 571 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,630 deserve a hell of a lot of credit for reestablishing border security. 572 00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:48,090 And what's happening in Mexico is 30 % of the territory in Mexico is under the 573 00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:52,390 control of the cartels. They control the police forces. Now, because of AMLO, 574 00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:57,090 Lopez Obrador, having judges elected, they control the judges. 575 00:36:57,350 --> 00:36:59,970 And they're moving it to different verticals, right? 576 00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:03,920 Human trafficking has been shut down for them, but the narcotics trafficking is 577 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,538 still going. 578 00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:08,360 And now they're responsible for a large percentage of the fuel sales, the 579 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,720 legitimate fuel sales in Mexico and are profiting from that. They're becoming 580 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,360 all -powerful. I mean, we have a lot of issues to work out with Mexico, but I 581 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,060 think Mexico has almost an existential crisis going on now. And it's in our 582 00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:22,980 interest and certainly in the interest of the Mexican government to go after 583 00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:23,980 that problem. 584 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Let me bring the economist in on this one because... 585 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,020 Kidnapping was waning because one of the reasons why it was so hard to pull off, 586 00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:38,000 because you had to transfer money, and money was always traceable. I mean, 587 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,320 movie is, you know, drop the money in a bag off the bridge, and then a guy in a 588 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,360 motorcycle gets it, no cops, you know. 589 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:46,480 And they always would front, not with crypto. 590 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:51,380 This is the part of this story I think we need to talk about more that I don't 591 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:52,500 hear very much in the media. 592 00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:58,100 Crypto. Crypto, the criminal's best friend. I've never liked this shit. I 593 00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,160 thought it was a big scam. 594 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:00,500 It is a big scam. 595 00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:06,400 And, you know, the guy who, the bit dance guy that got pardoned by Trump. 596 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:07,920 Binance, whatever it was. 597 00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:14,340 You know, it was because, well, he facilitated money laundering. 598 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,840 It's all money laundering. Crypto is money laundering. You take real money 599 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,960 you buy this fake money, which is a pool of untraceable funds you can do 600 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,180 anything with. That's why criminals use it for sex trafficking and drug 601 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,680 trafficking and kidnapping and other criminal enterprise. 602 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:34,520 And then they do whatever you want, and then you can buy back the profit with 603 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,520 your real money. 604 00:38:36,430 --> 00:38:40,290 Trump said it in broad daylight. The reason the Trump family got involved in 605 00:38:40,290 --> 00:38:45,250 crypto was following January 6th when banks said, we're taking a break from 606 00:38:45,370 --> 00:38:49,970 So when actually real regulated financial institutions said, we're 607 00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:53,510 break, that's when they turned to crypto. And when they realized what a 608 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:57,810 grift and phenomenal hustle it was, they went all in. And when you bring up 609 00:38:57,810 --> 00:39:02,150 Binance, that's the founder, CZ, right? This guy was sentenced to prison, right? 610 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,180 He then buys a huge stake in the Trump family crypto business, World Liberty 611 00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:11,820 Financial, and poof, he's out of jail. He now is still one of the largest 612 00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:16,780 holders of Trump meme coins as well as the business. How do you think the Trump 613 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:19,740 family is up for a billion dollars in a year? 614 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,280 What kind of crypto regulation is there at this point? None. 615 00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:31,670 Well, I'd love to hear what you think about this, because there has to be a 616 00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:35,010 to regulate it so you can get the benefits of crypto, which is kind of 617 00:39:35,010 --> 00:39:38,550 democratizing finance, cutting out the middleman. Whatever you think of 618 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:42,010 decisions to debank people, some of those decisions were politically 619 00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:45,150 Do we want to be on the receiving end of being debanked for something? I don't 620 00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:45,999 think so. 621 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,900 And then when you go to authoritarian regimes and the ability to move money in 622 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:53,200 and out of those authoritarian regimes, maybe we might want to support some of 623 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,380 the people in Iran who so courageously stood up before that horrible regime 624 00:39:57,380 --> 00:39:59,040 gunned down 30 ,000 of them. 625 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,080 So there's some benefits to it. 626 00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:09,140 How can you address kind of the anonymity issue so that you don't have 627 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:13,200 traffickers and you don't have organized crime networks moving money and still 628 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,900 have the democratizing feature of it? 629 00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:20,930 Smart regulation, right? The answer isn't yes regulation, no regulation. 630 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:24,930 But what we have in this current administration, they basically are no 631 00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:29,150 there's almost no prosecution of any white -collar criminals in the crypto 632 00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:31,250 space. There's almost no regulation whatsoever. 633 00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:35,570 During this week's testimony, you mentioned Pam Bondi's testimony this 634 00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:39,770 was asked about any sort of prosecution in the crypto space, and what did she 635 00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:42,850 do? Punted. That may have been the moment when she brought up the 636 00:40:42,850 --> 00:40:46,430 the stock market, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing on what our attorneys... 637 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,740 general is testifying about. 638 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:55,720 You just mentioned Iran. 639 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,560 I see that they, well, first of all, I thought if he was going to attack, he 640 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,080 would have done it by now because he did say a while ago when they were starting 641 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,680 to kill people in the streets, we're not going to let you get away with this. 642 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,220 And then he just let them hang out to dry. 643 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,760 America is not a very reliable ally. I thought he was going to be different on 644 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,760 that. Anyway. 645 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:19,220 Now here we are. There's two carriers now. This is just as of a couple of days 646 00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:23,680 ago now in the region. He also says we have a discombobulator. I don't know 647 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,680 that is. 648 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:26,580 I'm glad we have it, though. 649 00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:27,820 Aren't you glad? 650 00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:31,020 I'm glad it's on our side. 651 00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:35,060 I don't know. It sounds like something Benny Hill has. 652 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,560 I don't. 653 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,960 I guess I am. 654 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Yeah, I certainly don't want to be a discombobulator gap. 655 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,280 But, okay, so this week they put out this, that we have to talk to our allies 656 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,540 first before anything happens. 657 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:57,660 He said we have to check with international law and that we need more 658 00:41:57,660 --> 00:41:58,660 put things in place. 659 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,460 I read that as saying they're going to attack this weekend. 660 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,870 Maybe. You know, I think the chances are pretty high. 661 00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:06,129 You do? 662 00:42:06,130 --> 00:42:10,670 Yeah, I do. And I think the reason why they were kind of left out to dry there 663 00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:14,950 after the president's pledge to support them is we didn't have enough defensive 664 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:19,510 capabilities in the region. We had plenty of assets there to conduct 665 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:22,950 against what you might think, the tools of repression of the regime, maybe the 666 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:24,930 Basij or IRGC facilities. 667 00:42:25,610 --> 00:42:29,150 But we didn't have enough to go after what they might do in response. 668 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,400 You know, the counter -missile, the counter -drone defenses, going after the 669 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:39,300 IRGC Navy, which has been harassing our ships in the Bab al -Mandab area and 670 00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:43,000 then up in the Persian Gulf. Okay, but if our goal is to stop killing the 671 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,660 protesters in the streets, that's the Revolutionary Guard. These are the thugs 672 00:42:46,660 --> 00:42:49,920 who have taken over this country 50 years ago and still have it. Okay? 673 00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:53,200 It's a combination of a theocracy and this mafia. 674 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,580 Okay. What is... 675 00:42:57,230 --> 00:43:01,610 is impaled in this attack that is going to topple the Revolutionary Guard. 676 00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:06,430 Who are we firing guns at? Who are we firing our missiles at? And how will it 677 00:43:06,430 --> 00:43:09,650 affect the people in the street? I don't get it. Well, I mean, you could go 678 00:43:09,650 --> 00:43:10,650 after the leadership. 679 00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:15,810 And what the Israelis did in that 12 -day campaign is they took out two dozen 680 00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:18,390 leaders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. 681 00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:23,960 So if you're a leader of these organizations, the Basij, and the IRGC, 682 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,860 maybe think twice before now you've gone down 30 ,000 people again. So I think 683 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:34,320 that there are some capabilities that are relevant to dissuading them from the 684 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,520 kind of mass massacre and brutality that we thought. It's really unprecedented 685 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,520 since World War II. 686 00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:44,810 30 ,000 people, these are reliable numbers, killed in a 48 -hour period. 687 00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:48,410 What I would like to see are a number of other actions taken internationally. 688 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:53,010 Why the hell is there any Iranian empathy open anywhere in the world? 689 00:43:53,330 --> 00:43:54,470 Pick those guys the hell up. 690 00:43:55,110 --> 00:44:00,150 And a lot more financial pressure, we're doing that. I mean, there's more that 691 00:44:00,150 --> 00:44:04,510 can be done outside of the military instrument as well. Okay, so that's 692 00:44:04,510 --> 00:44:05,510 diplomacy. 693 00:44:05,610 --> 00:44:09,690 And if what we're doing this weekend potentially is bombing Iran, then 694 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:10,890 is trumping diplomacy. 695 00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:14,330 And isn't the big question we have to ask, let's say you bomb the hell out of 696 00:44:14,330 --> 00:44:17,990 them. Let's say it's a brilliant execution, right? What next? 697 00:44:18,330 --> 00:44:22,310 People in Venezuela may be thrilled that Maduro isn't there, but they're 698 00:44:22,310 --> 00:44:25,190 panicked saying, what's next? And we've yet to hear this administration 699 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:30,690 articulate any of that. And if one were a true cynic, they might say, could the 700 00:44:30,690 --> 00:44:32,750 exact timing of this bombing be... 701 00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:37,090 the president who understands politics and media better than maybe any other 702 00:44:37,090 --> 00:44:38,089 modern politician. 703 00:44:38,090 --> 00:44:42,790 So on Sunday, when most likely all the Sunday shows will be covering Pam 704 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:47,030 disastrous hearing, Howard Lutnick's disastrous hearing, the reports out 705 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:50,250 the board about the Epstein file, we're not going to be talking about that 706 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:53,490 because Iran will be the only thing in the news. The only people talking about 707 00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:57,190 that are the people you and I know on the coast who watch those shows. Nobody 708 00:44:57,190 --> 00:45:00,410 gives a shit about the Sunday shows. You don't think America... No. Hold on. 709 00:45:00,670 --> 00:45:03,350 That's not America. How many people watch this? 710 00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:07,630 They do. The Epstein files, they do. They don't watch the Sunday shows and 711 00:45:07,630 --> 00:45:10,230 their decisions. But President Trump does. Oh, yes, he definitely does. And 712 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:13,730 that's what I'm talking about. The other factor is Ramadan begins next week. So 713 00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:16,730 that may be another end of this. But, I mean, I was very supportive of bombing 714 00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:19,610 the nuclear facility in Iran. I thought that was great. 715 00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:24,610 I understood the goal there, and I understood how it could just be ended 716 00:45:24,610 --> 00:45:25,610 the bombing itself. 717 00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:27,410 I don't get this one. 718 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,580 I have like half a minute to ask you this last question because you're the 719 00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:32,580 military guy. 720 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,620 The START treaty, we're familiar with this. This is the treaty we've had for 721 00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:38,860 years between the United States and Russia. 722 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,360 Well, if you don't know what the START treaty is, it stopped. 723 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:48,520 It's now expired. We have nothing that says that Russia and the United States 724 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:54,160 can't now build any number of nuclear weapons. 725 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,280 What is your take on that? I'm okay with the Star Treaty going away. Really? 726 00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:02,020 Because I think it's the first step to now doing something more broadly. 727 00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:06,600 You know, China is increasing its nuclear forces by 400%. 728 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:11,000 400%. They're not a party to the treaty. It's kind of the same as the 729 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,640 Intermediate Nuclear Force Treaty that went away. It was important that that 730 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,500 went away because we were constraining ourselves. 731 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,880 Russia was violating it, and China wasn't even a signatory. 732 00:46:20,140 --> 00:46:24,700 So we were taking off the table for us the development of land -based, long 733 00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:25,840 -range strike capabilities. 734 00:46:26,220 --> 00:46:27,400 So I'm hopeful. 735 00:46:27,850 --> 00:46:31,890 that this might be the beginning of maybe getting back on the path towards 736 00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:33,810 kind of a dialogue about strategic forces. 737 00:46:34,190 --> 00:46:37,710 President Trump, this is a priority for him. I got to tell you. I mean, he would 738 00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:39,790 talk about it often. He hates nuclear weapons. 739 00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:44,050 Putin kind of plays that card a lot with President Trump. Hey, Donald, you know, 740 00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:46,990 wouldn't it be great if we could work together? And it's all lies. But anyway, 741 00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:50,450 he plays that. But the real key is to bring China in. 742 00:46:50,890 --> 00:46:54,410 and to do it to reduce the stockpile, control them more effectively, but then 743 00:46:54,410 --> 00:46:56,090 also work on non -proliferation. 744 00:46:56,370 --> 00:46:57,370 Thank you. 745 00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:59,790 I've got to go. Time for new rules, everybody. 746 00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:04,390 Thank you. 747 00:47:04,750 --> 00:47:05,750 Okay. 748 00:47:08,310 --> 00:47:12,850 Someone with a psychology degree has to tell me why the ultimate act of joyous 749 00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:14,410 abandon is dancing on a car. 750 00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:21,270 Big Bunny at the Super Bowl dancing in a car. La La Land dancing on a car. Fame 751 00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:25,550 dancing on a car. Michael Jackson dancing on a car. Tony Catan for 752 00:47:25,550 --> 00:47:26,550 dancing on a car. 753 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:29,450 Whoever these guys are dancing on a car. 754 00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:33,070 Choreographers have ruined more cars than ice. 755 00:47:37,110 --> 00:47:38,110 Why? 756 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,860 Jeez, there's got to be a fresher way to show you're fun and full of life, like 757 00:47:44,860 --> 00:47:46,120 singing into a hairbrush. 758 00:47:51,140 --> 00:47:55,500 Someone must tell the Norwegian biathlete who won a bronze medal and 759 00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,180 promptly confessed to cheating on his girlfriend on live TV. 760 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,320 Sometimes just say, I'm happy I won. 761 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:11,460 But congratulations on the bronze. 762 00:48:12,740 --> 00:48:15,780 And also for winning the gold for biggest dumbass. 763 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,440 No rule of India's intent is to intimidate us with a show of military 764 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,340 They're going to have to release a different picture. 765 00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:34,040 This photo doesn't say lethal combat unit. It says the guy behind me is 766 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,040 too close. 767 00:48:42,830 --> 00:48:45,990 Well, you can call it skiing, you can call it snowboarding, you can call it 768 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:50,130 bobsledding, the skeleton, the luge, but what we must all admit is that most of 769 00:48:50,130 --> 00:48:51,950 the Olympics is just one sport. 770 00:48:52,310 --> 00:48:54,250 Different ways to fall down a hill. 771 00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:58,730 Somebody had to say it. 772 00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:00,230 It had to be true. 773 00:49:00,710 --> 00:49:05,590 I know of a 21 -year -old woman who went backpacking through Australia, thought 774 00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:08,730 she got a stomach bug, and ended up delivering a baby. 775 00:49:09,610 --> 00:49:12,610 must admit that she wishes she had just gotten a stomach bug. 776 00:49:16,130 --> 00:49:22,910 Because at least with that, all of the shitting, pissing, and crying only 777 00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:23,910 lasts a few days. 778 00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:30,010 And finally, new rule, this Valentine's Day, men have to give women what they 779 00:49:30,010 --> 00:49:33,470 really want, to grow up and start being men again. 780 00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:43,440 Learned a new word recently, hub son. 781 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,900 Hub son, like husband, but it's the son. 782 00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:52,660 It's grown men who freed themselves from the shackles of wage slavery to live at 783 00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:54,980 home, rent free with the parents or just mom. 784 00:49:55,460 --> 00:50:00,160 They're also called kept sons. They live with mom and do all the jobs dad used 785 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,660 to do. You know, fix stuff around the house, take out the trash, make sure 786 00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:08,200 it's mom's turn to host book club, the girls have enough Pinot Noir. 787 00:50:11,950 --> 00:50:15,550 You know, I wondered why Pornhub had so many stepson videos. 788 00:50:17,370 --> 00:50:20,330 It's because sons are dating their moms now. That's why. 789 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:29,750 And it just works, okay? 790 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:34,010 There's no awkward getting -to -know -you phase. 791 00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:39,690 And if someone asks, hey, how did you two meet? You can say, funny story, she 792 00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:40,890 pushed me out of her vagina. 793 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,020 Is it any wonder so many women these days are asking, where have all the real 794 00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:54,019 men gone? 795 00:50:54,020 --> 00:50:56,820 I mean, look at their dating profiles. 796 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,440 Living with mom is not one of the turn -ons. 797 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,660 Guys in jail do better with chicks. 798 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:15,760 Men are so consistently disappointing these days that there's a new trend 799 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,540 women are in lieu of dating. 800 00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:20,740 Going to the shelter and walking a dog instead. 801 00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:25,820 At least that way there's some chance of ending up with a nose in your crotch. 802 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,660 Sociologists say we're going through a sex recession, which is like a regular 803 00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:41,020 recession, except in a regular recession you get laid off, and here you don't 804 00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:42,020 get laid at all. 805 00:51:48,830 --> 00:51:55,750 24 % of men 22 to 34 say they've had zero sexual activity in the 806 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:58,690 past year, what we used to call being married. 807 00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:08,850 44 % of Gen Z men report having no relationship experience at all during 808 00:52:08,850 --> 00:52:11,030 their teen years, except with Adderall. 809 00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:15,570 This is not healthy. 810 00:52:16,030 --> 00:52:18,590 Although it does explain the steep drop in cooties. 811 00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:28,210 Scariest of all, 45 % of men aged 18 to 25 have never approached a woman in 812 00:52:28,210 --> 00:52:33,190 person. The only women Gen Z men talk to these days are Siri and Alexa, and a 813 00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:36,350 fat guy in the Philippines is pretending to be the guy they think they're 814 00:52:36,350 --> 00:52:37,870 sexting with on OnlyFans. 815 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,040 Women are feeling so sexually unfulfilled lately that there's a new 816 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,580 literature that's propping up the entire book -buying market. It's called 817 00:52:55,580 --> 00:53:01,420 romantasy. Kind of like the old romance novel epitomized by Fabio on the cover. 818 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:08,200 Except women are so horny now, even he's not enough. They want to fuck an actual 819 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,740 animal. I'm not kidding. 820 00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:13,300 In the drawer with the vibrator in it now. 821 00:53:13,870 --> 00:53:19,690 are books with titles like My Minotaur Husband, Sleeping with Monsters, The 822 00:53:19,690 --> 00:53:24,590 Dragon's Bride, Stalked by the Kraken, and Radley's Home for Horny Monsters. 823 00:53:31,770 --> 00:53:37,050 Tales of romance, but with minotaurs and centaurs, werewolves, vampires, 824 00:53:37,390 --> 00:53:39,010 anything but a human man. 825 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,840 Seven foot tall, winged, shadow demon, absolutely. 826 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,880 Viking warrior who carries you off over his shoulder, no problem. That's the 827 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,580 message of these books. If I can't find a man to get me off, I'll get Dracula to 828 00:53:55,580 --> 00:53:56,580 do it. 829 00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:10,080 Morning Glory Milking Farm is the 830 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,520 third... of a millennial girl who takes a job at a minotaur milking farm. 831 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,660 You know, a minotaur milking farm. 832 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,560 And well, one thing leads to another and she winds up fucking a guy who's half 833 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,560 bull. 834 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:28,200 Which brings me to Taylor Swift. 835 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,740 Hear me out. I think Taylor Swift epitomizes the journey that a lot of 836 00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:43,580 have been going through. Yes, women wanted men to be more sensitive. 837 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,680 Sensitive, but not some noodle -bodied human turtleneck who wears the same 838 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,680 clothes they do. 839 00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:56,140 Timothy Chalamet is very talented and I'm sure very sexy to women, but on the 840 00:54:56,140 --> 00:55:01,060 hunk scale, he feels like the leftover pieces from after they made Burt 841 00:55:01,060 --> 00:55:02,060 Reynolds. 842 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,620 went from writing songs about what a dick this guy was to her and what a dick 843 00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:20,180 this guy was to her to what a dick this guy has. 844 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,540 He dated a procession of skinny, fey, gay, adjacent, meek. 845 00:55:32,260 --> 00:55:38,300 porcelain doll, shy guy, twink -like, tortured poet, metrosexuals in America 846 00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:43,760 Europe, but the second she got some old -school wood from the heartland, it was 847 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,760 game over. 848 00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:52,880 So welcome home, Taylor, and happy Valentine's Day, but... I mean, 849 00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:56,800 Taylor... is hardly the only one. You can hear it in the lyrics from all of 850 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,980 today's female pop stars. They're practically screaming that they can't 851 00:56:00,980 --> 00:56:01,980 satisfaction. 852 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,360 Doja Cat rap, I don't really got no type, I just want to fuck all night. 853 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:12,940 Charlie XCX and Billie Eilish have a song that goes, try it, bite it, lick 854 00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:15,480 spit it, hold it in the side, get up all in it. 855 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,020 Jeez, when they're not saying fuck ice, they're saying fuck me. 856 00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:31,090 Problem is, they're living in a world full of guys who are afraid to even make 857 00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:32,930 eye contact without an NDA. 858 00:56:33,790 --> 00:56:37,870 Because in America, the pendulum never stops in the middle. The younger 859 00:56:37,870 --> 00:56:42,890 generation of men caught the backlash from like, you know, five million years 860 00:56:42,890 --> 00:56:46,510 human history. And I feel for you guys. You were born in a society that said 861 00:56:46,510 --> 00:56:48,790 just being male was toxic. 862 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,200 And in a world where everything you said was mansplaining and everything you did 863 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,240 was an eye roll and merely approaching a woman could get you canceled, it got 864 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,240 very easy for men to just give up. 865 00:56:59,740 --> 00:57:05,100 And when they did, Pornhub and Tinder and OnlyFans were right there to take up 866 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,100 the slack. 867 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,900 Thing is, the technology changed. 868 00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:10,820 Women didn't. 869 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:16,580 They still want eye contact and face -to -face conversation and also a pair of 870 00:57:16,580 --> 00:57:17,580 balls would be nice. 871 00:57:24,860 --> 00:57:31,580 Because in real life, I'm sorry, I mean IRL, when a girl blows you off when you 872 00:57:31,580 --> 00:57:35,680 ask her to dance, you can't just type fuck you and log off. You have to take 873 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,720 that long walk of shame back to your table to tell your friends, uh, no, 874 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,720 lesbian. 875 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,820 All right, that's our show. I want to thank my guests, Global National 876 00:57:45,820 --> 00:57:49,280 Advisor H .R. McMaster, Stephanie Ruhle, and Jonathan Haidt. 877 00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:53,860 From Random Drops every Monday on YouTube, or listen every Get Your 878 00:57:53,930 --> 00:57:55,390 go watch Overtime on YouTube. 879 00:57:55,650 --> 00:57:57,930 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Happy Valentine's Day. 80223

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