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It's like being dead for 10 seconds,
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like everything's just gone.
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We're in Kalispell, Mt, It's in the
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Flathead Valley. It's just really
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available. You can go out back and get
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a bag of dope, you know, it's just
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so prevalent here that it's the drug to
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do. And it's not just us punk teenagers.
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A lot of people are doing this.
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Came from myself.
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Yeah.
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Holy.
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Yeah.
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Best feeling in the world. It's just it's
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like the biggest head rush in the world.
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Like you can't hear for a little bit, you
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can't breathe, you can't see.
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To understand how we could get addicted
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to this. But I feel so good right now,
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better than any any sober person has ever
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felt the whole entire life. That's what
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they don't know.
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Who got this stuff? Following me
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Gramming Kenny Realty. How much did
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that cost, $50 How much $50?
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I think you're good dude.
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I I used to be a strong, athletic kid. I
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was. I run
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the mile now I run a
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block. I'm tired. So I have
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I have stretch marks on my
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back from I lost like 30
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lbs. It's it's ********. I'm like.
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My my muscle tone. It eats
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your muscle. But
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this all happened in like the first
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month if that that it just drastically
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affected my body like that.
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When was the last time you got high?
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This afternoon.
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I purchased a gram and yeah, you
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smoked quite a bit of it.
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It's not even a high, it's it's an
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addiction. This is like $35 worth, which
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you can't normally get, but and that'll
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get everybody high. For how long
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Actually, this will get them one bowl and
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this will give me one shot.
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That's all you can think about. You don't
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have any other priorities in life if
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you're doing this stuff. You don't have
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aspirations to be anything else but a
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user, but that's all you end up to be
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because that's what exactly what it does.
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It just makes you want to use more and
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more and more. I mean, I was doing fine.
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I had a job. I had a really nice truck,
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everything. My truck got repoed. I got
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kicked out of my apartment and I was
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fired, you know, just and it happened so
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quick and even you might have a chance to
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realize it happened until it's already
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there. What are you doing there, Crystal?
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I'm putting in the spoon. Why? Because
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I'm gonna cook it. I don't even bother
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smoking. Yeah. I can't even get high.
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Smoking is never the same. Yeah. Yeah.
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What are you doing there? Dissolving it.
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I was under the impression that that that
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that was done to boil the impurities away
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or ship. The whole thing is an impurity.
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You take it and take the risks with
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whatever the heck happens.
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I've got to look in the mirror man, I
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can't see. Ohh you're still in the neck
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buddy. I burst
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the two veins in my arms before
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so.
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Biggest names?3 grams,
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4 grams a day, big shots, like half
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a gram for one shot and then let's
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keep going on and on.
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I was a perfectly fine person. I was
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skipped ahead in school. I joined the
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military. I did everything right. First
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day I was back in Montana for the
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military. First person that I met offered
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me and that's when I started. It's a
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head rush. I can't even
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describe. It's a horrible head rush.
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Self medication. Basically it's just a
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way to hide your feelings.
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When I look in the mirror, I
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discussed it with myself. I'm ashamed
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there's.
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I don't know what happened to myself.
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Wasn't a druggie in high school or
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anything like that, I just happened to be
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at a party one time where they had it and
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I was willing to try it. Because
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everybody else did more of a peer
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pressure type deal. Before meth, I
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had a ton of friends. I was outgoing, you
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know, I ran 6 miles every day. I had
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the trust from people. I was very well
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liked in my community. Meth took all that
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away from me.
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Matt takes such control over you and it's
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something that your body feels it needs
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and you're going to do anything and be
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willing to do anything to get it.
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I would sleep with men for meth, mainly
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my dealers and stuff like that. Or my
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boyfriend would put me out there to sleep
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with men for meth.
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After doing a shot of meth, the main
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thing to do afterwards was have a hard
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sex. Whether it be
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them tying you up on the bed
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and pouring candle wax over your vaginal
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area to put you through pain. The
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guys got off on that. You know,
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using knives to cut you in any
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part of your body just to make
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little slits, taking bigger objects
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towards your vaginal area. Objects that
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shouldn't have been there. One instance
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is. They used the bat at one point.
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Baseball bat, Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When I look at myself in the mirror, you
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know, without clothes on and I see those
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scars, yes, it, it brings up, it brings
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up all the memories, you know, all the
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horrific things that were done, all the
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horrific things that I agreed to do. It
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doesn't happen.
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Trying to get your next fix.
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There's no shame when it comes to this
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stuff. You know, you lose a lot of what
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you are as a person. You know pretty much
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everybody I know who who's involved with
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dope. It's all thieving, lying, lying,
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cheating and stealing. That's all it is.
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This is my kitchen. As you can
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see I don't do it very much
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cleaning Ohh this is a just dirty
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dishes. That's one of my bicycles and
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I have a dog and. There in
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the yard for him to run around. And some
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days it gets pretty bad. You become
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uncivilized. If my grandma came here and
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seeing seeing my house looking like this,
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she'd kick my asss.
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Now when I when I go to my grandma's
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house up in Rocky Boy, I do nothing but
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clean and help her cook. And yeah, she
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should beat me.
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In my eyes, this is a normal life. The
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dope game is pretty much the only thing I
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know. I've been doing it as long as I
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can remember and. I, I don't know very
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many other people when they're 11-12
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years old rolling around with a pocket
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full of doping. As much money as I **** I
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wish I could still be 12 years old and
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have the money and dope I had now. Like I
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I know it's all going to come to an end
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and it's all going to come crashing down
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and I'm going to be going to jail for it.
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They think when you get like this, you
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think that's the only way of life there
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is out there and it's not.
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It's not a you don't exist. I lived in my
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bedroom for the past six years. You don't
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exist. You really don't. Shut
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yourself out. They always came
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first and. My girls didn't
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mean nothing to me.
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They don't want more. Pretty much after
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her kids got taken away from her, she
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just kind of went on a downward spiral.
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And then it's like ever since he got
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taken away, it's been 1 big haze for
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just one. One big long stretch of just
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getting high and constantly.
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They were just, they wanted a mom, and
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that wasn't the mom. I mean,
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I I want to have a normal life with
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Glenn, but it's hard to get out of that
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life because it's easy money. It's some
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get rich quick. Some
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some big use right here which like to
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put your drugs in these to sell them.
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How much how much stuff do you move?
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I like to use.
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This right here is a locker. This is what
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you put your mouth in.
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There's some meth. Crystal meth. Devil's
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dandruff is what I like to call
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it.
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That was a $25.00 that just smoked up
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right there in about 5 or six hits.
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It was pretty much worthless because now
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it's just. So gone and now
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I want more. And
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it's just pure evil and I hate myself for
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just doing it right now, but that ain't
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going to stop me from doing more.
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If I remember who gave it to me the first
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time I did it, I I probably want to shoot
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him.
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Very first time that they used
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methamphetamine, they're in big trouble.
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Methamphetamine Jazzes.
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The nervous system, this is everything is
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speed up heart rate, blood pressure, you
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know that everybody knows the term fight
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or flight. This the
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first time I take methamphetamine. I can
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have a stroke. Or it can
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have a heart attack. Clearly, if you're a
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middle-aged person using meth, you're
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just like Russian roulette. And if you're
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using big time stimulants that can even
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kill a young, healthy college athlete.
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For people who smoke or inject
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methamphetamine, it's going to hit the
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brain very quickly, within seconds. It's
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an ecstasy, unlike. Any other drug that
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works on the neurotransmitter dopamine
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causes dopamine to just dump into the
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synapse, start charging all the cells
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around it, and it causes an incredibly
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fast euphoric rush. This is very much
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like the euphoria that people get with
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orgasms. In addition to dropping all of
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that dopamine out, it then gets into the.
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Down and explodes the vesicles that carry
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dopamine. So eventually then any pleasure
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that a person feels who's using the drug,
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they're only getting it from the drug.
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Their body ceases to be able to create
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that sense of pleasure. People want that
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feeling again. People often are self
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medicating, trying to get out of their
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depression.
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I'm going to Chippewa Curry from Rocky
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Boy reservation.
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Everything is totally different up there.
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There's just some traditions that you
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stick to, like elders and stuff. Like
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people respect the elders a lot, you
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know, and stuff like that. But most of
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them, you know, ain't traditional
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Indians. They don't stick to the
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traditional ways.
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In the 30 years that I've
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been teaching, we've had problems with
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drinking using pot. But
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I've never seen it escalate
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in such a hurry.
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Meth is more dangerous. It's so
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easy to get on the reservation
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and it's cheap. Young kids can
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get their hands on it. I'm
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afraid we're going to have a
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tribe full of zombies. It's just,
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it's just so sad.
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Methamphetamine is an epidemic on
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this reservation.
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I don't think the Crow Nation can
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stand by and lose a generation of
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its young people. This methamphetamine
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use is killing us. We have to
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realize that. Our kids have to realize
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it.
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You know, I look, I look back
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and history and I look at, you
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know, how our tribe has been put
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on reservations and smallpox and things
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like that, but it didn't wipe out
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our reservation. This has been the worst.
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And just experiencing it personally, I
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mean. I know how
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terrible it is. I know how hard
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it is to kick the habit. My
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biggest regret from using from using math
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has been what I've.
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What I've done to my children and to my
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family. When my mother was on meth, it
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was tough trying to take care of my two
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brothers, me and him. When we were
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younger, my mom and dad would leave us at
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the mall from the morning till the
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evening till closing just so they could.
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Do their do math.
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There's one thing I want you to know.
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You know, I had one son
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four years ago, February 17th, I
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lost my son. He
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got in a real bad car accident, but
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it was because of methamphetamine use.
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And that hurts me. You know, I don't
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want other parents to go through what I
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go through every day thinking about the
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son I had, my only son.
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I should have been more close to him. I
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should have said, son, I love you, Let's
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get together and let's take care of this
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problem together. I didn't do that.
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I should have done that.
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People need to know what their kids are
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doing. They need to be involved
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with their kids.
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I I really could not imagine a world
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without our tribe in it because um.
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Initially.
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I'm sorry.
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I guess I I think about my children.
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And their children's children.
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It is you.
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24.
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Come on, Targee, Margy
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Cheese, Gigi, Check. I'm
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hoping that Native Americans
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and the white society
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in the state of
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Montana, if they could
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just come together and
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work together to save.
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All our children in getting
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rid of this plague that's
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upon us, maybe we can.
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We can beat it.
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Ohh I I lied to my
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mom. I I spend way too
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much money. I do things I
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shouldn't do.
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Eventually you just do things to get
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money and this is where all your money
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goes towards. Like I could have so much
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stuff right now. It's them amounts of
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money I spend on drugs and people you
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owe and people I owe.
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I've heard a lot of things about people
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doing degrading them. Embarrassing
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things.
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I never did anything sexual for drugs,
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but I watched. I watched other girls do
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it all the time. They would or or guys
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mostly because one of the biggest.
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Connections around here just happens to
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be a gay pedophile. So if you're a young
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boy and you want to get high, go over to
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his house. I don't know, maybe he'll just
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sit there and he'll **** *** in front of
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you and he'll give you a ball for it.
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I was playing with my 10 month old nephew
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down on the floor and I had a couple of
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eight balls of meth in my pocket and when
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I left I got back into town and I
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realized that I was missing one of them
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and all I could worry about was where my
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drugs were at. At that point
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I went back to the house to see if I
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could find the 8 ball of meth laying on
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the floor somewhere without my mom
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noticing and when I got there she told me
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to leave and the cops were on their way
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because my nephew had hung up, picked it
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up and had almost swallowed it.
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I needed to get high, so I was robbing a
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bunch of people's houses. And this guy
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woke up when I was in his house and I'd
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smashed his face. God had stitches from
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one side of his face down to the other
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side of his face and. All I was
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worried about was getting high and
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getting away. I just see prison for him.
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The stunts he's been pulled into that. I
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mean, I I'm afraid to come home
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sometimes. Right there on my head. I have
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my head cracked open with a baseball bat.
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Somebody thought I had some dope about
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people. I can come down and shoot me just
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because he's been ripping people off
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methods. We made him a demon.
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I'll do just about anything for drugs
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like still from my own dad, my brother
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and I'm. I'm glad I don't have no
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kids because I'd probably robbed them of
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their futures.
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I've shown myself if I had to not. Not to
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a guy though. Why
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is he still alive?
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What they call them weasel.
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He is just a crafty sly and he just
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has dodged the bullet. It's going to
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catch up with him.
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Our congressmen have identified the
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Cascade County as a high intensity drug
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trafficking area. We worked out 24/7.
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That's all we do right now with
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the emphasis on math because it's our
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biggest problem.
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Last week we did a series of drug busts.
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It's going to be CIA buy at the Lido.
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Here's a picture of our friendly. There
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you go there, tough guy. A couple who was
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in a motel room and had some meth or
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narcotics in their room. We located some
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marijuana, cash, methamphetamine, scales,
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some paraphernalia. Can you hear me now?
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So they were selling out of their room.
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We gave them the option not to go to jail
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today and to help law enforcement out, we
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had them call some of their suppliers and
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also some of their customers. Well, let
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me, let me, let's call Chris, just play
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the game. Wedding or get anything?
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No. Do you know where to get any dope? He
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said about 15 minutes we would take him
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down.
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Ralph.
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On your stomach. All over your stomach.
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Ohh.
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You called us up and ordered up dope. You
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got caught. Game over. You know you had
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meth on you. You know you came and tried
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to buy dope, OK?
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But they really pushed the dude, you
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really got to help yourself out here. OK?
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I want you to engage in some conversation
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with them. 1.
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On the ground, but turn off please.
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Saucer on your stomach.
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Paula was kind of she's obviously an
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addict, but she was wrong place at the
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wrong time. The night of our bust rested
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me, handcuffed me. And I gave them all
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the stuff that I had on me. Who else is
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slinging dope in my town? Whole town in
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Great Falls is slinging dope. But I can't
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arrest the whole town except right out of
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a complaint against the town of Great
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Falls. I'm pretty much you damn near
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arrested half the people that are the
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main hookups in town. OK, well who's the
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other half then?
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Local law enforcement alone will not stop
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the meth problem in Montana. We can
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barely make a dent in it without the
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public's help. And again, going after the
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demand for meth, it's going to be a
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continuous problem.
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My mom helped me get into another
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apartment. She got me a car. I borrowed
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so much money from her, couldn't keep my
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own jobs, and my car broke down. I got
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evicted. I realized my little brother was
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watching me. Go from, you
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know, 190 lbs to 150 in a matter
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of months. Never seemed to sleep. Gone
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for weeks at a time. Just appear for
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a little bit to. I don't know,
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maybe get food or get something else out
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of the house I could pawn?My
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parents made me give my dogs away. I only
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have nothing, no responsibility
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whatsoever. I don't do anything. Just.
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Float by I suppose.
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It's not just teenagers,
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it's not just your
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early 20s. It's
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women as well as men, but
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women who have children. What it
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is doing to that environment, I
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think one of the most outrageous
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effects of methamphetamine is the total
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disregard that these addicts have for
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their families. When I would call.
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There, call it April's house. The kids
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were answering the phone. Ohh. Moms in
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the bedroom let me go get her.
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All I wanted to do was math.
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At first I didn't think she was
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because I wasn't seeing the effects. I
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wasn't seeing the dramatic weight loss.
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I had a very good job and
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then I picked up meth and it
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went downhill from there. I started
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dealing meth and found that it made
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a lot quicker money than working.
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Nobody was working and there was money
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and I kept saying April it better not
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be what I think it is and it's
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no mom, no it's not going on. I
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had just separated from my ex-husband and
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I was down and thought that might bring
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me up.
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Yeah, brought me up for a while and then
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they came crashing down.
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Types of sounding children's toy,
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correct? Yeah. Was a
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substantial risk of death or serious
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bodily injury to your children? Yes Sir.
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Is convicted thereon of the offense of
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criminal endangerment of felony as
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alleged in Count 3 of the information.
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When I found out for sure that April
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and her boyfriend were using meth a lot,
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I became very, very angry with her. Every
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conversation was a fight. What the hell
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are you doing? If you choose to go
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do drugs then that will be your choice,
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but I will take your children away from
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you. For their safety. There was a
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stabbing at my house. He got stabbed
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in the face by men that had
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kicked in my front door over 14
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grams. And then two weeks later there
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was a a shooting. No, I don't
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belong in jail. Somebody said she was
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nothing. But a predator, I think anybody
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who has children, if they do not have
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that instinct to protect, then they
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shouldn't be a parent to begin with. And
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I don't care if they're four or if
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they're 40 when somebody calls your child
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a predator. It hurts.
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It hurts.
538
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,580
You have pretty good. You don't get none.
539
00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:51,640
You couldn't.
540
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:58,585
I'd like to think we're pretty close knit
541
00:30:58,585 --> 00:31:00,769
pounding that crystal laced up nice too.
542
00:31:00,769 --> 00:31:02,640
You have to crack back nice.
543
00:31:03,860 --> 00:31:06,028
It tasted really dopey because that's
544
00:31:06,028 --> 00:31:08,918
really, that's all we have is each other.
545
00:31:08,918 --> 00:31:11,809
But it seems like we've all drifted way
546
00:31:11,809 --> 00:31:14,338
apart. I mean, my daughter doesn't want
547
00:31:14,338 --> 00:31:16,867
my granddaughter around me because of him
548
00:31:16,867 --> 00:31:19,757
and also because of his, you know, effect
549
00:31:19,757 --> 00:31:22,750
on me. With the match for me.
550
00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:27,061
My brother and my sister, they both got
551
00:31:27,061 --> 00:31:29,261
good lives and they both got good things
552
00:31:29,261 --> 00:31:31,737
going for him. And my dad did raise me
553
00:31:31,737 --> 00:31:33,938
good. He taught me right from wrong and
554
00:31:33,938 --> 00:31:36,413
he gave me the choices and I made the
555
00:31:36,413 --> 00:31:38,614
choices myself. And I, I made the wrong
556
00:31:38,614 --> 00:31:40,540
choices because I'm like Kim, like he
557
00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:41,640
made the wrong choices.
558
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,589
This this is really killing my girlfriend
559
00:31:50,589 --> 00:31:52,702
right now. She really wants to try some
560
00:31:52,702 --> 00:31:55,642
of it. But I'm not gonna let
561
00:31:55,642 --> 00:31:58,380
her. One is because I'm stingy
562
00:31:58,380 --> 00:32:00,810
and two is because she's too good to do
563
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:01,080
it.
564
00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:07,580
Just to see that cloud of smoke.
565
00:32:09,650 --> 00:32:11,880
I want to get high no no.
566
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:15,110
No, no, no,
567
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:16,020
don't.
568
00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:20,408
I'll pitch you off worse if I let you.
569
00:32:20,408 --> 00:32:21,100
No, you won't.
570
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:35,350
Ice is the best when you're pregnant.
571
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:41,008
I went through. Basically
572
00:32:41,008 --> 00:32:44,002
my whole life. So I really never
573
00:32:44,002 --> 00:32:46,996
was taught anything about drugs. I just
574
00:32:46,996 --> 00:32:49,990
knew that my mom was a user.
575
00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:56,790
The night I first got high, it was
576
00:32:56,790 --> 00:32:59,293
a conscious decision. I was going out
577
00:32:59,293 --> 00:33:01,080
that night to get high.
578
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,996
Me and my first kids dad broke up,
579
00:33:04,996 --> 00:33:07,831
I found out he was cheating on me
580
00:33:07,831 --> 00:33:10,667
and when I took my first hit of
581
00:33:10,667 --> 00:33:13,148
meth it was powerful. It made everything
582
00:33:13,148 --> 00:33:15,984
kind of go away, everything that I was
583
00:33:15,984 --> 00:33:18,465
thinking about. But that first high is
584
00:33:18,465 --> 00:33:21,301
the only really good high that you get.
585
00:33:21,301 --> 00:33:24,134
You never. Feel as good as you did
586
00:33:24,134 --> 00:33:26,686
the whole rest of the time you're using,
587
00:33:26,686 --> 00:33:28,919
you're just chasing that first high and
588
00:33:28,919 --> 00:33:31,470
when the people in your life are worried
589
00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:33,703
about you and you hear people talking
590
00:33:33,703 --> 00:33:35,936
about how upset your family or your
591
00:33:35,936 --> 00:33:37,850
friends are, they're the enemy because.
592
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,832
I looked at it like I wasn't
593
00:33:41,832 --> 00:33:44,224
hurting anybody, not even myself, because
594
00:33:44,224 --> 00:33:47,016
it seemed like anything that made me
595
00:33:47,016 --> 00:33:49,010
feel so good, you know?
596
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:52,691
Couldn't hurt. I don't steal from people.
597
00:33:52,691 --> 00:33:55,683
I'm not scandalous. I sing. I'm talented,
598
00:33:55,683 --> 00:33:58,674
you know? And then when I'm on
599
00:33:58,674 --> 00:34:01,665
meth, it's not anything you think about
600
00:34:01,665 --> 00:34:04,657
at all, like how quickly you're going
601
00:34:04,657 --> 00:34:07,648
downhill. Within six or seven months, my
602
00:34:07,648 --> 00:34:08,930
electricity was off.
603
00:34:10,730 --> 00:34:13,393
My house was just filthy. I was
604
00:34:13,393 --> 00:34:15,676
neglecting my child because you just
605
00:34:15,676 --> 00:34:18,339
can't connect with your kids when you're
606
00:34:18,339 --> 00:34:21,131
high, you know?I have
607
00:34:21,131 --> 00:34:23,305
had two previous pregnancies and it was
608
00:34:23,305 --> 00:34:26,100
never a problem for me not to use and.
609
00:34:27,050 --> 00:34:29,020
It was just weird how this time.
610
00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:32,243
I didn't. It's like I couldn't control
611
00:34:32,243 --> 00:34:35,069
it. I wasn't thinking what would I do
612
00:34:35,069 --> 00:34:37,895
if this meth would blow up my baby's
613
00:34:37,895 --> 00:34:40,368
heart, You know? I wasn't thinking about
614
00:34:40,368 --> 00:34:43,194
how funked up it would be if my
615
00:34:43,194 --> 00:34:44,960
baby died inside of me.
616
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:49,098
I would just, I worried about it and that
617
00:34:49,098 --> 00:34:51,955
just drove my that just drove me to get
618
00:34:51,955 --> 00:34:52,590
high more.
619
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,570
Because you don't want to think about it.
620
00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:00,853
And then what if I would have killed my
621
00:35:00,853 --> 00:35:03,763
baby, you know?To
622
00:35:03,763 --> 00:35:04,810
get high.
623
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:11,318
I'm not. I mean, that's not me at
624
00:35:11,318 --> 00:35:11,690
all.
625
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,610
I'm thinking like.
626
00:35:26,570 --> 00:35:29,150
I just can't even believe I did it.
627
00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:34,254
Can't believe I used meth at all my
628
00:35:34,254 --> 00:35:34,620
pregnancy.
629
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:43,263
If you look at these
630
00:35:43,263 --> 00:35:45,897
are the ingredients iodine, charcoal,
631
00:35:45,897 --> 00:35:48,530
lighter, red devil lie, hydrogen
632
00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:51,163
peroxide, heat we pour in
633
00:35:51,163 --> 00:35:53,797
our gas tanks, drain or
634
00:35:53,797 --> 00:35:56,430
drain cleaner, the only ingredient.
635
00:35:56,530 --> 00:35:59,238
Here, that is not a deadly poison. It
636
00:35:59,238 --> 00:36:01,607
is the Sudafed, and people are shooting
637
00:36:01,607 --> 00:36:03,638
this stuff into their circulatory system
638
00:36:03,638 --> 00:36:06,565
and consequently into their brain. This
639
00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:09,174
was an exhibit in a trial.
640
00:36:09,174 --> 00:36:11,783
These were found in the trunk
641
00:36:11,783 --> 00:36:14,392
of his car and it included
642
00:36:14,392 --> 00:36:17,001
this butane stove and he could
643
00:36:17,001 --> 00:36:19,610
go out into the National Forest
644
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,930
very isolated. And.
645
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,927
Cook the meth there. And he's not the
646
00:36:24,927 --> 00:36:27,134
only one doing this. He's one that we
647
00:36:27,134 --> 00:36:27,410
caught.
648
00:36:47,620 --> 00:37:07,620
649
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,581
All Rise District Court is now in
650
00:37:24,581 --> 00:37:26,167
session, The Honorable Ted Limpus
651
00:37:26,167 --> 00:37:28,070
presiding. Thank you. Please be seated.
652
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:32,345
It first matters on the calendar
653
00:37:32,345 --> 00:37:35,120
of the state of Montana. In
654
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,895
count 1, meth is a factor
655
00:37:37,895 --> 00:37:40,670
in 80% of the cases, either
656
00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:42,983
either in cases involving possession,
657
00:37:42,983 --> 00:37:45,758
manufacture or sale or distribution of
658
00:37:45,758 --> 00:37:48,533
meth, or cases involving behavior as
659
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:50,910
a consequence of. Math.
660
00:37:52,380 --> 00:37:54,806
We first saw methamphetamine five years
661
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:57,637
ago on a very, very minor scale.
662
00:37:57,637 --> 00:38:00,468
Within the last two years, we've seen
663
00:38:00,468 --> 00:38:03,298
a tidal wave of meth use hit
664
00:38:03,298 --> 00:38:06,129
here in Montana. Today, I would say
665
00:38:06,129 --> 00:38:08,959
80 to 85% of the people in
666
00:38:08,959 --> 00:38:11,386
the jail have some involvement with
667
00:38:11,386 --> 00:38:11,790
methamphetamine.
668
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:18,698
Like the pod I'm in right now, you're
669
00:38:18,698 --> 00:38:20,407
looking forward to getting beat up,
670
00:38:20,407 --> 00:38:22,686
getting checked out to know if you're a
671
00:38:22,686 --> 00:38:24,964
snitch or not. You know they're going to
672
00:38:24,964 --> 00:38:26,673
be hitting when they're checking. So
673
00:38:26,673 --> 00:38:28,667
basically you're coming into a a whole
674
00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:30,660
different world when you come into the
675
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:31,230
the jail.
676
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,374
No one here it's kind of like a jungle,
677
00:38:37,374 --> 00:38:39,164
you know? I mean, you know, if you're
678
00:38:39,164 --> 00:38:41,402
like a rat in a boom, you know hey, you
679
00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:43,192
could deal with them If you're talking to
680
00:38:43,192 --> 00:38:44,982
the cops knowing just give them names and
681
00:38:44,982 --> 00:38:46,773
****. I'm boom. No, you hate you get
682
00:38:46,773 --> 00:38:48,339
dealt with. You know broken arms get
683
00:38:48,339 --> 00:38:50,129
through 8. You get thrown off like the
684
00:38:50,129 --> 00:38:51,696
top tiers and anything. You know the
685
00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:53,262
guards can't watch after you all the
686
00:38:53,262 --> 00:38:54,605
time. There's many people here they're
687
00:38:54,605 --> 00:38:57,369
going to make you. Do things that you
688
00:38:57,369 --> 00:39:00,270
don't want to do. They'll call you a fake
689
00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:02,525
it all the time. You could become
690
00:39:02,525 --> 00:39:04,137
homosexual. You can become somebody's
691
00:39:04,137 --> 00:39:06,715
batch. A batch is somebody that will get
692
00:39:06,715 --> 00:39:09,293
stripped down and they will rape you in
693
00:39:09,293 --> 00:39:12,191
jail. They will. They
694
00:39:12,191 --> 00:39:14,629
will do. They will rape you in jail. They
695
00:39:14,629 --> 00:39:16,526
will say you come here with money,
696
00:39:16,526 --> 00:39:18,422
they're gonna cook. And they like that.
697
00:39:18,422 --> 00:39:20,590
Asking to take your asss too. You know,
698
00:39:20,590 --> 00:39:22,757
like John Mccrae. He's not a very nice
699
00:39:22,757 --> 00:39:25,565
person, you know?You
700
00:39:25,565 --> 00:39:28,058
don't. You don't want to become
701
00:39:28,058 --> 00:39:29,720
somebody's ditch. You don't.
702
00:39:31,390 --> 00:39:32,520
It's no good.
703
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:44,337
In Montana the women using meth is a big
704
00:39:44,337 --> 00:39:46,482
problem. Not that men isn't but they
705
00:39:46,482 --> 00:39:48,626
frequently will start out thinking it's a
706
00:39:48,626 --> 00:39:51,384
good way to lose weight. 2/3 of the women
707
00:39:51,384 --> 00:39:53,835
in our state prison are there for meth.
708
00:39:53,835 --> 00:39:55,673
All young females are looking for
709
00:39:55,673 --> 00:39:57,511
acceptance. They're looking in the wrong
710
00:39:57,511 --> 00:39:59,962
places here and once they get sucked into
711
00:39:59,962 --> 00:40:02,226
this culture it seems to be. Incredibly
712
00:40:02,226 --> 00:40:04,300
difficult to get away from it.
713
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:08,513
I graduated high school with honors. I
714
00:40:08,513 --> 00:40:11,176
had a scholarship to USC, a sports
715
00:40:11,176 --> 00:40:13,459
scholarship. I chose drugs over that
716
00:40:13,459 --> 00:40:14,600
scholarship. A boyfriend.
717
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,152
And I lost so much of my life because of
718
00:40:19,152 --> 00:40:21,050
that. I'm a 16 time convicted felon.
719
00:40:22,070 --> 00:40:24,690
Before I started selling drugs, I would
720
00:40:24,690 --> 00:40:27,685
sell myself for drugs. I would you would
721
00:40:27,685 --> 00:40:30,679
do anything for the drug, sex, **** ****
722
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:33,674
things like that. I didn't look at it
723
00:40:33,674 --> 00:40:36,294
as a prostitute because I never received
724
00:40:36,294 --> 00:40:38,540
money. I just received drugs so.
725
00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:41,602
Basically I was a prostitute for drugs
726
00:40:41,602 --> 00:40:44,366
instead of money. I was
727
00:40:44,366 --> 00:40:47,049
queen of a rodeo my senior year in high
728
00:40:47,049 --> 00:40:49,136
school. I didn't graduate high school. I
729
00:40:49,136 --> 00:40:51,222
was short credits to graduate because of
730
00:40:51,222 --> 00:40:53,607
my addiction. The crowd I was hanging out
731
00:40:53,607 --> 00:40:55,992
with, they were the older kids, you know,
732
00:40:55,992 --> 00:40:58,078
they were the seniors in high school.
733
00:40:58,078 --> 00:41:00,165
They were, you know, they were the
734
00:41:00,165 --> 00:41:02,848
popular kids. I wanted to fit in and they
735
00:41:02,848 --> 00:41:05,341
handed me a line. And they said, you
736
00:41:05,341 --> 00:41:07,496
know, it feels great, you'll never want
737
00:41:07,496 --> 00:41:10,481
to go back. And I never did,
738
00:41:10,481 --> 00:41:13,182
you know, I mean, you, you think you have
739
00:41:13,182 --> 00:41:15,883
all this time in the world, but you don't
740
00:41:15,883 --> 00:41:18,585
because then you end up here. And then if
741
00:41:18,585 --> 00:41:20,986
you're looking at time, the extent that I
742
00:41:20,986 --> 00:41:23,387
would go to masking my year analysis, I
743
00:41:23,387 --> 00:41:25,788
would drink bleach. I used to get high
744
00:41:25,788 --> 00:41:27,890
only on weekends. Come Friday, I would
745
00:41:27,890 --> 00:41:30,135
drink bleach go. Through my urinalysis
746
00:41:30,135 --> 00:41:33,055
for my probation officer and walk out of
747
00:41:33,055 --> 00:41:35,610
there smiling and ready to do another
748
00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:38,165
loaded rig, loaded needle full of dope.
749
00:41:38,165 --> 00:41:41,085
It's just the insanity of it. And you
750
00:41:41,085 --> 00:41:43,640
would think after filling that way that
751
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
you won't go back to it. That just
752
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,480
makes you want it even that much more.
753
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,049
Because then you kind of start liking the
754
00:41:52,049 --> 00:41:54,759
insanity of it and you find comfort in it
755
00:41:54,759 --> 00:41:56,565
because it's familiar territory for you.
756
00:41:56,565 --> 00:41:59,275
I was so spun and I sat for over
757
00:41:59,275 --> 00:42:01,985
a day on my butcher block in my kitchen
758
00:42:01,985 --> 00:42:04,695
with machete in one hand and knife in the
759
00:42:04,695 --> 00:42:06,200
other on my tip toes.
760
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:30,186
The disease of methamphetamine use is
761
00:42:30,186 --> 00:42:32,150
addiction. That's the disease.
762
00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:34,494
The secondary manifestation of
763
00:42:34,494 --> 00:42:36,549
methamphetamine use. People can become
764
00:42:36,549 --> 00:42:38,193
Parkinsonian. Problems with movement,
765
00:42:38,193 --> 00:42:40,248
problems with facial expression, problems
766
00:42:40,248 --> 00:42:43,125
with tremor. Affects the math. Changed my
767
00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:45,591
whole speech and everything. I can't.
768
00:42:45,591 --> 00:42:48,468
It's gave me like a lisp kind
769
00:42:48,468 --> 00:42:51,345
of thing. Sort of. It's like, it's
770
00:42:51,345 --> 00:42:54,254
like it won't come out. As clear
771
00:42:54,254 --> 00:42:56,088
as it should. I don't know, it's
772
00:42:56,088 --> 00:42:57,660
chemicals or something did it. It's
773
00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:59,756
changed my whole body. It ruins you for
774
00:42:59,756 --> 00:43:01,590
good thing. Think of the talking thing
775
00:43:01,590 --> 00:43:03,424
that comes like because of your job
776
00:43:03,424 --> 00:43:06,360
doesn't your jaw. It messed
777
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,040
me up. It's going to be long term
778
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,300
effects. There's probably won't go away
779
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:12,202
some of them. People who use the
780
00:43:12,202 --> 00:43:14,726
drug tend to continue to have negative
781
00:43:14,726 --> 00:43:17,250
effects even with two years of sobriety
782
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:19,773
behind them. So let's just go through
783
00:43:19,773 --> 00:43:22,658
your mouth really quick. 7 is missing 23
784
00:43:22,658 --> 00:43:24,821
The destruction in her mouth is
785
00:43:24,821 --> 00:43:26,984
catastrophic. The enamel wears away and
786
00:43:26,984 --> 00:43:29,868
is eaten away by this acid of the
787
00:43:29,868 --> 00:43:31,949
bacteria and invariably. Every tooth is
788
00:43:31,949 --> 00:43:34,115
affected, there's very little we can do
789
00:43:34,115 --> 00:43:36,901
often and usually it means that we end up
790
00:43:36,901 --> 00:43:39,377
removing most of them and they end up
791
00:43:39,377 --> 00:43:41,853
with dentures at a very young age. 7
792
00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:44,019
years ago I started using really heavily.
793
00:43:44,019 --> 00:43:46,495
Math has eaten them from the outside and
794
00:43:46,495 --> 00:43:48,971
I will most likely lose all my teeth
795
00:43:48,971 --> 00:43:49,900
before I leave.
796
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,227
Came out great, we don't have to dig for
797
00:43:58,227 --> 00:43:59,990
any little root tips or anything so.
798
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:14,503
Mess. It tears you down. It tears
799
00:44:14,503 --> 00:44:17,204
you down. Makes
800
00:44:17,204 --> 00:44:20,119
you so unhappy. You think it's making you
801
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,670
happy, but it makes you so unhappy.
802
00:44:24,670 --> 00:44:25,230
That.
803
00:44:27,350 --> 00:44:30,011
Makes you so unhappy that the only time
804
00:44:30,011 --> 00:44:32,340
you're happy is when you're on it.
805
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,030
The come down is.
806
00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:39,064
It's horrible. The worst thing in the
807
00:44:39,064 --> 00:44:41,238
world is the worst depression you will
808
00:44:41,238 --> 00:44:44,033
ever have. All you want to do is just
809
00:44:44,033 --> 00:44:46,828
like slit your wrist. You just want it to
810
00:44:46,828 --> 00:44:47,760
stop. Just anything.
811
00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:52,278
Nothing to make you feel happy. There's
812
00:44:52,278 --> 00:44:54,722
no comfort anybody can give you. When I
813
00:44:54,722 --> 00:44:57,166
see Crystal shoot up, the the main thing
814
00:44:57,166 --> 00:44:59,915
that goes through my mind is what is she
815
00:44:59,915 --> 00:45:02,359
doing? She, she had such, you know, such
816
00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:04,803
a promising career in front of her. She
817
00:45:04,803 --> 00:45:07,246
did top placement in her classes and you
818
00:45:07,246 --> 00:45:09,690
know, all of her courses to be certified.
819
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,806
The police officer and then she just
820
00:45:11,806 --> 00:45:14,436
ruined it for a bit of powder room. Right
821
00:45:14,436 --> 00:45:17,066
now is he has his whole life ahead of
822
00:45:17,066 --> 00:45:19,403
him, but I really don't think he's going
823
00:45:19,403 --> 00:45:22,033
to make it that far if he keeps doing
824
00:45:22,033 --> 00:45:24,079
what he's doing. He's dropped out of
825
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,124
school, got in trouble with the police,
826
00:45:26,124 --> 00:45:27,878
pretty much revolves around getting high
827
00:45:27,878 --> 00:45:30,730
now. He
828
00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:32,693
never looks at you straight anymore. He's
829
00:45:32,693 --> 00:45:34,656
always moving around like his face and
830
00:45:34,656 --> 00:45:36,619
all. He's doing weird stuff. He's spun
831
00:45:36,619 --> 00:45:38,862
most of the time and I've really haven't
832
00:45:38,862 --> 00:45:40,825
seen him sober a whole lot. Graham's
833
00:45:40,825 --> 00:45:42,788
youth started with, even if you were
834
00:45:42,788 --> 00:45:44,750
charged first time with Johnny and his
835
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:46,713
bedroom, you know, walked in on Johnny
836
00:45:46,713 --> 00:45:49,237
when he was smoking and and got high with
837
00:45:49,237 --> 00:45:51,480
him and pretty much took off from there.
838
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:54,769
The next day he comes to me, says hook me
839
00:45:54,769 --> 00:45:57,208
up again, man. I said ohh, we got a
840
00:45:57,208 --> 00:45:59,646
little feed do we, you know. And I gave
841
00:45:59,646 --> 00:46:02,626
him a lot of hell and I made fun of him
842
00:46:02,626 --> 00:46:05,335
and called him a friend in a junkie and I
843
00:46:05,335 --> 00:46:07,503
made him feel like a real, real *******
844
00:46:07,503 --> 00:46:09,670
actually. But I still hooked him up. One
845
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:11,837
day some people got a hold of Johnny,
846
00:46:11,837 --> 00:46:13,833
told him that. That they banged Graham,
847
00:46:13,833 --> 00:46:16,246
they shot him up. I said you shot up
848
00:46:16,246 --> 00:46:18,392
Graham. Do you know how ******** old he
849
00:46:18,392 --> 00:46:21,177
is?And he's ohh yeah
850
00:46:21,177 --> 00:46:23,252
dude, I'm pretty sure that kids gonna be
851
00:46:23,252 --> 00:46:26,245
a junkie, man. Grandma was only
852
00:46:26,245 --> 00:46:28,990
15 at the time and you know he's already
853
00:46:28,990 --> 00:46:31,125
banging. And that's just the beginning of
854
00:46:31,125 --> 00:46:33,870
the end for anybody. Can you look at it?
855
00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:38,124
Look at it when it's happening. Ohh wait,
856
00:46:38,124 --> 00:46:40,350
can you tell me what you're feeling?
857
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,910
Much better.
858
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:48,139
I don't know. I'm like, I don't like to
859
00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:50,067
look at it. Everything's pretty much gone
860
00:46:50,067 --> 00:46:51,995
downhill from there. If he keeps doing
861
00:46:51,995 --> 00:46:54,198
this, he will be dead before he reaches
862
00:46:54,198 --> 00:46:56,401
30 just because of of how quickly it
863
00:46:56,401 --> 00:46:58,054
escalates and then how fast your
864
00:46:58,054 --> 00:46:58,880
tolerance builds up.
865
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,550
I don't expect Graham to have the
866
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:07,119
character to turn it around and figure
867
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,056
his life out. I expect him to overdose
868
00:47:10,056 --> 00:47:10,790
on meth.
869
00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:35,240
And I don't want my kids to know this.
870
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,434
This is the reason of my accident,
871
00:47:37,434 --> 00:47:40,255
because of the math. Yeah, I did try to
872
00:47:40,255 --> 00:47:42,762
commit suicide. Math had to do with the
873
00:47:42,762 --> 00:47:44,642
depression. And if I hadn't been
874
00:47:44,642 --> 00:47:46,836
depressed, I wouldn't have been out there
875
00:47:46,836 --> 00:47:49,656
driving like I was. And I would I I
876
00:47:49,656 --> 00:47:51,223
wouldn't have thought of committing
877
00:47:51,223 --> 00:47:54,111
suicide. And. I went as fast as I
878
00:47:54,111 --> 00:47:56,312
could. I was probably doing about 90. I
879
00:47:56,312 --> 00:47:59,063
just cranked it in the ditch as hard as I
880
00:47:59,063 --> 00:48:01,814
could and I had hit a tree. I knew at
881
00:48:01,814 --> 00:48:04,015
that point I couldn't move my legs, I
882
00:48:04,015 --> 00:48:06,967
mean. I knew right now
883
00:48:06,967 --> 00:48:08,090
I knew it.
884
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,671
If I can help one child
885
00:48:14,671 --> 00:48:17,030
out of this, I will.
886
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:22,100
I'm sorry.
887
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:28,164
Just look at my own kids
888
00:48:28,164 --> 00:48:30,958
and my gosh, they ever tried
889
00:48:30,958 --> 00:48:32,820
it? I would ohh.
890
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,908
Just I never want to see my children do
891
00:48:39,908 --> 00:48:42,390
this. A verb.
892
00:48:46,220 --> 00:48:48,847
And I don't care whose child it is, you
893
00:48:48,847 --> 00:48:50,890
know, if I can help one child.
894
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,940
It would be all worth it.
895
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,812
I probably wouldn't be clean from us
896
00:49:04,812 --> 00:49:07,021
today had the law not stepped in and
897
00:49:07,021 --> 00:49:09,505
forced me to go to treatment. I went into
898
00:49:09,505 --> 00:49:12,266
in and out of jail so many times and that
899
00:49:12,266 --> 00:49:13,370
never seemed to work.
900
00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:17,410
It took me going to an inpatient
901
00:49:17,410 --> 00:49:19,776
treatment center and I'm on my second or
902
00:49:19,776 --> 00:49:21,254
third outpatient treatment center right
903
00:49:21,254 --> 00:49:23,660
now. Please.
904
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:27,280
Quarters and session you may be seated.
905
00:49:29,710 --> 00:49:32,357
This is TC05-6 reactive, been a part
906
00:49:32,357 --> 00:49:34,626
of the treatment court programs for
907
00:49:34,626 --> 00:49:37,273
little over a year now. It's an
908
00:49:37,273 --> 00:49:39,919
18 month program. How are you doing?
909
00:49:39,919 --> 00:49:42,566
And it's been difficult, but it gave
910
00:49:42,566 --> 00:49:45,213
me a life that I once had.
911
00:49:45,213 --> 00:49:47,860
What would be your alternative you've got?
912
00:49:47,950 --> 00:49:50,628
Four or five felonies on my record right
913
00:49:50,628 --> 00:49:53,305
now, so that's where I would have gone.
914
00:49:53,305 --> 00:49:55,983
What is a very critical component to the
915
00:49:55,983 --> 00:49:57,991
program is the relationship that the
916
00:49:57,991 --> 00:49:59,999
judge has with the participants because
917
00:49:59,999 --> 00:50:02,007
this is all about accountability and
918
00:50:02,007 --> 00:50:04,015
responsibility. So what happened to your
919
00:50:04,015 --> 00:50:06,884
job?Because I went
920
00:50:06,884 --> 00:50:09,880
to jail. For what
921
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,852
other reason? For drinking?There's
922
00:50:12,852 --> 00:50:15,735
been lots of consequences because of that
923
00:50:15,735 --> 00:50:16,970
decision as the.
924
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:21,839
So what are you doing? Looking for
925
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:24,650
another job? You have to have a job.
926
00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:27,841
Would just be sitting around. I
927
00:50:27,841 --> 00:50:30,152
understand that. I became a judge in
928
00:50:30,152 --> 00:50:32,463
1997. Before then, I was the prosecutor
929
00:50:32,463 --> 00:50:35,435
in this county for 14 years. I wasn't in
930
00:50:35,435 --> 00:50:38,076
favor of this program in the beginning. I
931
00:50:38,076 --> 00:50:40,717
thought this is one of those touchy feely
932
00:50:40,717 --> 00:50:43,029
kinds of programs. I have the opportunity
933
00:50:43,029 --> 00:50:45,670
to see these people weekly or every other
934
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:47,990
week. To go through their whole recovery
935
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:50,496
program with them and I'm going to let
936
00:50:50,496 --> 00:50:52,689
you go to work. It's the accountability,
937
00:50:52,689 --> 00:50:55,195
them having to come here and confront me
938
00:50:55,195 --> 00:50:57,388
not only about the good things that
939
00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,581
they've done, but about the bad decisions
940
00:50:59,581 --> 00:51:01,460
that they've made and to accept
941
00:51:01,460 --> 00:51:04,379
responsibility for that. When there's a
942
00:51:04,379 --> 00:51:05,712
violation, there's an immediate
943
00:51:05,712 --> 00:51:07,710
consequence. I understand we have a
944
00:51:07,710 --> 00:51:09,709
problem here this morning. We recognize
945
00:51:09,709 --> 00:51:12,374
that a person who is in recovery probably
946
00:51:12,374 --> 00:51:15,039
will relapse what he used and he lied.
947
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:17,037
There's no hearing, there's no delay.
948
00:51:17,037 --> 00:51:18,703
There's an immediate consequence. So
949
00:51:18,703 --> 00:51:21,368
you're going, I'm going to send you to
950
00:51:21,368 --> 00:51:24,301
jail for 24 hours. And you could
951
00:51:24,301 --> 00:51:26,571
be sitting over there for 18 months if
952
00:51:26,571 --> 00:51:27,990
you don't get through this.
953
00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:34,188
And there's also rewards when they're
954
00:51:34,188 --> 00:51:36,599
doing well. You have been in this program
955
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,010
six months sober, but look at what you've
956
00:51:39,010 --> 00:51:41,723
done. You can just list them all off. You
957
00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:44,435
have a place of your own to live. You
958
00:51:44,435 --> 00:51:46,846
have a good job, a steady job. You're
959
00:51:46,846 --> 00:51:47,750
much less fidgety.
960
00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:52,797
We compliment them, we praise them, we
961
00:51:52,797 --> 00:51:55,524
applaud them. What does the blue chip
962
00:51:55,524 --> 00:51:58,251
symbolize? I see the blue skies ahead,
963
00:51:58,251 --> 00:52:00,978
but I'm still going to have blue
964
00:52:00,978 --> 00:52:03,705
days. Six months of sobriety. Well, I'm
965
00:52:03,705 --> 00:52:06,043
very grateful that you're here this
966
00:52:06,043 --> 00:52:08,380
morning. So here's the ear chip.
967
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:28,670
968
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,371
1st we sat Graham U took Graham to his
969
00:52:41,371 --> 00:52:43,444
little dinner and had the cops arrest him
970
00:52:43,444 --> 00:52:45,516
at our dinner table. Yeah, well you know
971
00:52:45,516 --> 00:52:48,289
you had to get him safe. So then
972
00:52:48,289 --> 00:52:50,367
Graham got to get out of jail free
973
00:52:50,367 --> 00:52:52,445
because ohh yeah, they ran out of space.
974
00:52:52,445 --> 00:52:55,303
So the effort it took me to get him to a
975
00:52:55,303 --> 00:52:57,381
safe spot, I got called how many days
976
00:52:57,381 --> 00:53:00,213
later, Graham?Because they were
977
00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,983
crowded. So
978
00:53:02,983 --> 00:53:04,400
that's the help you get.
979
00:53:12,370 --> 00:53:15,098
He's been stuck to me for 24/7 for
980
00:53:15,098 --> 00:53:18,055
the last. Six weeks. He goes to
981
00:53:18,055 --> 00:53:20,240
work with me in the morning, goes to
982
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,698
lunch with me, we tuck him in, we give
983
00:53:22,698 --> 00:53:24,882
him a sleepy time tea. And I've been
984
00:53:24,882 --> 00:53:26,794
doing a lot of counseling and probation
985
00:53:26,794 --> 00:53:29,365
and then. A lot
986
00:53:29,365 --> 00:53:31,960
of stuff. So this is all
987
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,123
overwhelming. I haven't talked to
988
00:53:34,123 --> 00:53:36,718
anybody. I don't associate with anyone
989
00:53:36,718 --> 00:53:39,480
anymore. And it just
990
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,308
hasn't come up. You take a kid that's
991
00:53:42,308 --> 00:53:44,783
a straight, A student that can't even
992
00:53:44,783 --> 00:53:46,550
stay in a classroom now.
993
00:53:47,410 --> 00:53:49,905
Um, that is more
994
00:53:49,905 --> 00:53:52,400
interested on numbing himself.
995
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:56,175
Then living life. Has
996
00:53:56,175 --> 00:53:59,152
some kind of preconceived notion in his
997
00:53:59,152 --> 00:54:02,128
brain that it's a lot easier to
998
00:54:02,128 --> 00:54:05,105
go that route versus reality. I mean,
999
00:54:05,105 --> 00:54:08,081
he is, he doesn't mean to be.
1000
00:54:08,081 --> 00:54:11,058
It's not him, but he's become deceitful.
1001
00:54:11,058 --> 00:54:14,034
He lies about the tiniest little things.
1002
00:54:14,034 --> 00:54:16,952
I it's, I don't know. I
1003
00:54:16,952 --> 00:54:19,450
don't know. You said that you only used
1004
00:54:19,450 --> 00:54:21,947
it four times. That's what you said. So
1005
00:54:21,947 --> 00:54:24,445
what does that mean? That you don't use
1006
00:54:24,445 --> 00:54:27,255
it as much? You use it. You don't use
1007
00:54:27,255 --> 00:54:30,065
it. I don't use it anymore at all. You
1008
00:54:30,065 --> 00:54:32,875
don't use it anymore at all? No, but I
1009
00:54:32,875 --> 00:54:35,060
did do it more than four times.
1010
00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:41,780
And so you haven't used meth for how long?
1011
00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:44,290
Couple months I guess.
1012
00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:48,816
How do you do that? How do you give up?
1013
00:54:48,816 --> 00:54:51,028
From what I hear, one of the most
1014
00:54:51,028 --> 00:54:52,964
addictive things on this planet. How do
1015
00:54:52,964 --> 00:54:55,454
you how do you give that up? Not as
1016
00:54:55,454 --> 00:54:56,560
manipulative as you think.
1017
00:54:58,260 --> 00:54:58,770
No.
1018
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,994
I have my doubts. How could I not? How do
1019
00:55:04,994 --> 00:55:07,198
you just use something and then just give
1020
00:55:07,198 --> 00:55:08,850
it up? Something that's that powerful,
1021
00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:11,054
something that made him do things that he
1022
00:55:11,054 --> 00:55:13,799
would never do?So I don't
1023
00:55:13,799 --> 00:55:14,850
know is that possible?
1024
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,055
I mean, what are we left with? I mean, I
1025
00:55:21,055 --> 00:55:23,338
don't have the tools it takes. I don't
1026
00:55:23,338 --> 00:55:24,480
have what it takes.
1027
00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:29,144
I you know help. There
1028
00:55:29,144 --> 00:55:30,920
will come a time where I'm tired.
1029
00:55:32,260 --> 00:55:34,623
And when you turn 18, you'll look at me,
1030
00:55:34,623 --> 00:55:36,723
and if he's still doing this, he'll say,
1031
00:55:36,723 --> 00:55:39,348
you know, I'm 18, I'm going to do what I
1032
00:55:39,348 --> 00:55:41,710
want. And then what? Then what do I have?
1033
00:55:42,490 --> 00:55:44,703
So I have a little bit more time. If I
1034
00:55:44,703 --> 00:55:46,695
have to play the gel or 24/7, that's what
1035
00:55:46,695 --> 00:55:47,580
I'm going to do.
1036
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,990
How does it all end?
1037
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,380
Yeah, I don't know. You tell
1038
00:56:06,380 --> 00:56:07,730
me, how does it all end?
1039
00:56:21,490 --> 00:56:24,245
My my body is nothing compared to
1040
00:56:24,245 --> 00:56:27,073
what it was before. For
1041
00:56:27,073 --> 00:56:29,253
instance, my thermostat in my body I can
1042
00:56:29,253 --> 00:56:30,070
I'm never warm.
1043
00:56:32,290 --> 00:56:34,318
I, I just, I can't get really close to
1044
00:56:34,318 --> 00:56:35,895
people because I know people are capable
1045
00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:38,617
of. I know what I was capable
1046
00:56:38,617 --> 00:56:41,585
of. The
1047
00:56:41,585 --> 00:56:43,234
most consistent thing I've heard about
1048
00:56:43,234 --> 00:56:45,433
meth is that meth is the devil. That's
1049
00:56:45,433 --> 00:56:47,083
the most consistent thing I've heard
1050
00:56:47,083 --> 00:56:49,007
about every person. Even the people that
1051
00:56:49,007 --> 00:56:51,206
are still using that will tell you meths
1052
00:56:51,206 --> 00:56:53,405
the devil and then they'll do it anyways.
1053
00:56:53,405 --> 00:56:53,680
But.
1054
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,688
I guess I'm just in such a disbelief.
1055
00:57:06,688 --> 00:57:09,575
It's so hard to even project how you
1056
00:57:09,575 --> 00:57:12,102
feel with such a devastating thing. I
1057
00:57:12,102 --> 00:57:14,629
don't know. It's horrible. Yeah. How do
1058
00:57:14,629 --> 00:57:15,800
you. How do you?
1059
00:57:17,780 --> 00:57:19,862
Tell people how crappy it is. You can't
1060
00:57:19,862 --> 00:57:21,424
tell people it's you just don't
1061
00:57:21,424 --> 00:57:23,246
understand. You just got to finally take
1062
00:57:23,246 --> 00:57:25,068
somebody's word for it that it's ******.
1063
00:57:25,068 --> 00:57:27,411
It's going to buck up your life, so why
1064
00:57:27,411 --> 00:57:29,754
even try it in the first place? But I
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think about that now. I'd shoot myself in
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the head before I ever touched that ****
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again in my life.
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