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Escape to the English Riviera.
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It is the antique capital of the UK.
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As we follow the dealers. That's
fantastic.
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And customers.
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Hunting for hidden gems.
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Wouldn't it be marvellous if it was a
real potato?
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The Antiques Riviera on Mall 4. A brand
new series. Starts 30 at 9.
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Dialing up the romance for Valentine's.
We've a first date special here come 10.
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The intensity of the media spotlight on
Channel 4 first, though, with themes of
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child abuse. Michael Jackson, The Trial.
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Channel
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documentaries, sponsored by the new all
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When you become an icon, like an
international phenomenon, the jealousy
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involved.
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I mean, I've seen some serious jealousy.
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They've been very, very cruel and mean
to me.
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If they don't think I hear it and see
it, I do.
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I do.
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If people could only see way before any
of this crap that they started and
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allegations and all these lies and
stories, if they could see all the
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and all the orphanages and all those
things that I've done, if they could see
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that, I think they would totally have a
different opinion.
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But people, they don't want the good
stories.
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Breaking news once again, so stand by
here on Fox News Live.
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Michael Jackson, of course, facing seven
counts of child molestation, two counts
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of administering an intoxicating agent
to a child. He's facing 20 years. Fans
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started arriving in the middle of the
night to get a good seat or stand right
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next to the courthouse.
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The famous arraignment. Oh, my gosh.
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The entire world converged on Santa
Maria.
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More than a thousand journalists.
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I was there for all of it. He is
fighting these molestation charges and
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going to do everything he can.
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I think on my deathbed, certain events
will flash before
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my eyes because it was that intense.
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Michael Jackson is motorcade winding its
way to the courthouse under police
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motorcycle escort.
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I was about four or five miles to get to
the courthouse.
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And the cops, with their sirens blaring,
there were six motorcycle cops.
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Not even the president gets that.
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It was a zoo.
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What can you tell us outside the Santa
Maria courthouse? We heard cheers.
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We arrived about 8 .45.
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Michael did stop to acknowledge the
hundreds of fans.
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It was just sheer craziness.
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I was there trying to record it with my
videographer.
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His entourage is coming up.
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And Michael was telling his
videographer, get that, get that.
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Michael Jackson was orchestrating.
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There are people out there from all over
the world.
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So I think it's quite a spontaneous
outpouring of support. That is nice to
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A lot of those fans.
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were buffed up there from Las Vegas,
from San Diego, from Los Angeles.
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So while his attorney called it a
spontaneous outpouring of love, it was
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actually highly orchestrated.
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It shows Michael Jackson's genius at
spectacle.
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Members of a black separatist group, the
Nation of Islam, flanked the street.
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They're reported to be protecting and
possibly advising the singer.
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Jermaine Jackson brings the nation of
Islam.
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And when they marched ahead of Michael,
it was the most amazing sight I had ever
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seen, this show of force.
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There is a strategy behind trying to
galvanize the black community.
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White folks are doing this. White folks
are prosecuting him. White folks are
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accusing him.
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And he's come to us for help. We're
going to help.
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And Michael knew that.
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And he used that.
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As we're arriving at the courthouse,
there were three helicopters flying
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circling.
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There were a few thousand demonstrators,
literally screaming.
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This was child molestation.
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He's a 15 -year -old kid.
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He's a 15 -year -old kid who's a cancer
survivor.
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You didn't see him crying or holding his
head down because he knew he was
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innocent.
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During his time in court, Michael would
call me at 2 and 3 in the morning.
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You've got to go out there and tell
people I'm innocent.
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Michael feels very confident in his
defense team, and we have a long way to
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And that's what I did.
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Michael Jackson leaving Judge Rodney
Melville's courtroom.
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We know that Jackson nodded when he
asked if he understood the charges. He
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not guilty when asked for his plea.
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Michael Jackson walks out of court,
surrounded by his family, surrounded by
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bodyguards, and when he's about to get
into his SUV limo, all hell breaks
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Oh, my goodness, look at this. He's
jumping on top of the car.
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Oh, yeah, we see him.
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It's truly performing for his fans,
truly performing.
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The crowd is just going completely
insane, and he's just turning around and
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of doing a move.
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Consequently, what was happening outside
court made the headlines, as opposed to
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what was happening inside court.
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Brilliant strategy.
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Pull focus.
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Pull focus.
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A lot of people said, hey, that's just
disrespectful.
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That's not the way you conduct yourself.
You conduct yourself with decorum. Any
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attorney will tell his client, no, no,
no, you show respect.
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Uh -uh, not Michael Jackson.
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If you want the world to know you are
innocent, you show your face to
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everybody that you are not afraid.
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And that's what he did.
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fire and the majesty when you can
command an audience.
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I love my fans, the loyal ones, that no
matter what, they're there, man.
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They're thick and thin.
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Whatever you do, they're right there
with you.
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They love me unconditionally.
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I'm like a lion. Nobody can hurt me.
Nothing can harm me.
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I think people believe what they want to
believe.
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And it's not necessarily based on logic.
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I think it's based on emotion.
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He had the ability to be able to
convince them of things that are
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unbelievable.
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And I think that created for him a sense
of invincibility.
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But from the prosecution standpoint, we
knew we were dealing with a pedophile.
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And he was the pedophile who could abuse
children almost with impunity.
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And we felt that we had enough
cooperative evidence to be able to win
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Michael was feeling frightened.
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Pure, plain, and simple, he was scared
to death.
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He called me in the middle of the night,
so upset.
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Brian, why are they doing this to me?
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Because your name is Michael Jackson.
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If your name were Smith Jones, they'd
throw this case out in a hot second.
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This is a fraudulent scam.
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Gavin Arvizu was misrepresenting.
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telling fantasies and false statements.
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He says, how are we going to win, Brian?
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And I said, we have to overturn every
stone.
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It means subpoenaing and interviewing
every witness there is.
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And Michael said, do it, Brian.
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That's what you're going to do.
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I said, you bet.
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Another allegation of sexual abuse was
going to bankrupt Michael Jackson, and
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they knew it.
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They knew what the consequence of a
child coming forward and making another
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allegation of child sexual abuse was
going to be because of what happened
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Jordan Chandler back in 93.
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Pop superstar Michael Jackson is facing
allegations of child abuse and Los
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Angeles police have launched a criminal
investigation.
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This is the boy at the center of the
allegations.
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13 -year -old Jordan Chandler was
pictured with Michael Jackson on holiday
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Monte Carlo earlier this year.
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In 1993, I was Michael Jackson's...
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personal chambermaid for his bedroom.
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I think he chose me because I was quiet.
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And I think he thought that he could
keep his secrets with me.
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Hold on, let me use the inhaler.
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Sorry.
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Sometimes when I think of him, I get
asthma.
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Sorry.
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Sorry, I'm probably crazy.
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I don't know.
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There were always little boys, different
little boys, that never left.
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Running around the property.
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At the theater, watching movies with no
parents around.
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And I think he'd get a kick out of
watching them fight for his attention.
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There was one day when Mr. Jackson had
come into his bedroom with one of his
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little friends.
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And his little friend was Geordie
Chandler.
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I was cleaning the stairwell, and so I
kind of glanced, and where they stood,
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they couldn't see me.
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And I saw Mr. Jackson kissing Geordie on
the cheek near his mouth, and I saw
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his hand by his crotch.
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And I was bothered by seeing that, very,
very bothered.
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I didn't, I didn't...
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I thought that I didn't want to believe
Michael Jackson was a
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man who had a problem with little boys.
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They had been in a jacuzzi.
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They changed their clothes and they took
off.
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It was an awful feeling.
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I can't even explain it.
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And then, you know, I kept thinking,
well, maybe...
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Maybe that's not what I'm seeing. You
start questioning yourself for what you
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did see, and then you think, well, you
can't just call the police over there.
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They're going to think you're crazy.
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My detective supervisor says, hey, Rose,
I have a case that I need you to
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investigate.
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We have allegations from a young victim
that Michael Jackson sexually molested
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him on numerous occasions.
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So I'm like, Michael Jackson, you're
kidding, right?
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It was almost unbelievable.
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The media, they found out right away.
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So it was all over the news.
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That very same day, we went out to the
victim's home.
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I introduced myself and then began my
interview.
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One of the first things he talked about
being in Las Vegas with Michael Jackson.
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The parents became very comfortable with
Michael Jackson and allowed the victim
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to spend time with Michael alone.
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They were seeing, hugging, and touching.
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Jackson was talking to the kid, and the
kid was overwhelmed, according
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to him, seeing his star.
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And being able to touch him and say,
wow.
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This is the grooming process.
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That night in his suite, Michael asked
him, come on, let's watch
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a movie.
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The movie was The Exorcist.
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He was petrified.
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Michael said, would you like to stay
here, sleep with me?
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And they did.
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The victim described the abuse initially
began with fondling, kissing.
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Later on, it progressed to more
aggressive sexual contact.
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When mom found out that the child had
slept with Michael Jackson, she
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became pretty upset.
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Whenever he was confronted by a parent,
Michael would start crying.
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He made himself the victim.
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You know, how can you think this of me?
Oh my God, I would never do anything
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like that. You know, I love children.
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You have to trust me.
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Children, I think, can be very loyal.
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A lot of adults, they sell out to what
they think people want to hear.
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A good child will not do that. You show
them a good time, the next day they're
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all over you with love and hugs and
kisses.
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Michael Jackson today refused to comment
on the police investigation as he
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prepared for the first stage of his
world tour in Thailand.
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I remember when the allegations came
out, the Jackson family, they held a
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conference. We join you here today as a
family united, a family that has
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struggled from the bottom up.
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The family felt like somebody was trying
to shake him down.
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Michael has been made...
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a victim and cruel, obvious attempt to
take advantage of his fame and success.
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The most important thing to them was
that this image they had to protect.
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Certainly in the black community, they
were always like, we're the black
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Kennedys. We're America's royalty.
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Believe me, in 1993, the Jackson family
was extremely powerful.
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And boy, oh boy, did they ever come to
his defense.
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Jackson's Mr.
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Fix -It. Private investigator Anthony
Pelicano, one of Hollywood's most
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people, called in to do damage control.
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The strategy, it was about protecting
the golden goose, number one, but also
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protecting the family's name.
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Now you're seeing him start to take on
this victimhood.
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This victim mentality.
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It's not me.
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It's somebody else who's the bad guy.
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Good morning, everyone. The Michael
Jackson child sex abuse investigation is
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expanding. Authorities are looking into
his relationships now with at least four
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boys.
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The names were given by the victim's
mom.
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She has a list of all the children that
they met.
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There were a lot of times where we went
to locations to interview people.
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Anthony Patacano was there before we
were.
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First was Wade Robson.
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Michael was helping him with his music
career that he brought him from
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because Michael saw the talent that he
had.
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When we got there, he refused to open
the door at the beginning.
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They basically, you know, said, look,
Anthony Pelicano was here. We spoke to
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him. He says that we're not obligated to
speak to the police.
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He's working for Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson never abused me.
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Wade Robson denied everything.
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Then Mr. Pelicano put the children on
TV.
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I know Michael very well.
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I know he wouldn't do anything like
that.
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Has he ever tried to do anything with
you that would even be considered
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questionable?
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No, nothing.
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With Brett Barnes, it was the same
thing. He's a great man, and we don't
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anything to say.
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When you'd have sleepovers and you'd
stay in the same room or the same bed,
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that seem unusual to you at all?
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No. Because I slept on one side of the
bed, he slept on the other, and that was
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that. It was ruthless with what they
did. They really just had absolutely no
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regard. They all negated that they were
victims.
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Things at Neverland change dramatically.
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Michael brought these.
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seven bodyguards back, and they would
harass the employees.
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They had guns.
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They'd point them at people. They didn't
care.
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They'd do whatever they can do to scare
you to just shut the hell up.
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One day I was in his bedroom when he was
standing by his bed, and out of the
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blue he says, Adrian, you know, if you
ever say or do anything that I don't
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like, All I have to do is tell security.
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They would take care of you, but it
wouldn't come from me.
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I thought, you're threatening me.
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And then I got a subpoena, and I had to
give a deposition.
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My head was spinning.
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I was questioned about what I had seen.
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with Mr. Jackson and Geordie.
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I was young. I was scared, very mixed
up.
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Michael had some kind of control over
me, and I
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didn't say what I should have said,
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which was the truth, and I held it back.
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Amid all Michael Jackson's trouble, it
finally seemed he'd gotten his family in
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line behind him. Except, of course, for
the renegade Latoya.
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Michael is my brother.
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I love him a great deal.
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But I cannot and I will not be a silent
collaborator of his crimes against
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small, innocent children.
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What 35 -year -old man is going to take
a little boy and stay with him for 30
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days? It blew everyone away. The family
is horrified and angry at the same time.
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There's no validity to what she is
saying. It's absolutely not true. My
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is not a child molester.
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Latoya is lying, and I'll tell her to
her face she's lying.
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Latoya was ostracized for that.
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And not only was she ostracized from the
family, but fans turned on her and
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drove.
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Michael was raised by a very pious
mother.
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I mean, any time I walked in on her, she
was reading the Bible.
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And Michael was raised in that milieu.
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He was deeply connected to his mother,
who offered unconditional love and
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acceptance.
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All the stuff that goes on about my
family and about Michael, it really
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When they were talking about him, about
the child molestation thing, it makes me
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angry because he needed someone to help
him, to protect him.
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The family of a teenage boy is dropping
a charge that Michael Jackson molested
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the boy.
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The case was settled in secret,
reportedly for millions.
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The resolution of this case is in no way
an admission of guilt by Michael
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Jackson. I felt the victim was very
credible.
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But once that was settled, our case was
gone.
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It was killed.
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One
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afternoon,
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I was cleaning in Michael's room.
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And he came up to me and he said,
Adrian, this is for you.
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And he handed me an index card, and he
wrote on it, Adrian, thanks for
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everything.
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I opened it, and it was three $100
bills.
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I felt like that was a payoff to cover
up for him.
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Kind of sad, so I don't know.
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Can you guys hold on? Because my eyes
feel like they're glossy.
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Because I feel like stupid.
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Just dumb mistakes you make in life
that, you know, you shouldn't do
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And I did it.
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But you live and learn.
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Is that restroom open?
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Sure. Okay, let me just stop because I
don't want them to open.
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Back in 1993, George Chandler became one
of the wealthiest 13 -year -olds in
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America overnight with the settlement of
that case.
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Did I feel that justice wasn't done?
Sure.
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But their visa family was very
different.
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They were determined that they weren't
going to take money.
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Gavin was going to testify.
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I'm very different.
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I don't follow a trail. I make the path.
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I'm an innovator, a pioneer.
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But have you had to pay a price because
of that?
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Yes, I have.
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Terrible price.
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Terrible price.
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Racism, jealousy, just hate, just evil.
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But I'll never lose it because it's what
my heart is.
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After five weeks of jury selection, the
trial of the singer Michael Jackson will
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begin in California later today.
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Celebrity justice correspondent Jane
Velez Mitchell has been following the
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She joins us from Santa Barbara. This is
a Shakespearean tragedy.
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It's an American tragedy. It's a human
tragedy.
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There was a certain sense of privilege
of being able to cover it.
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What do we know about the 12 -year -old?
The story today is he's a cancer
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survivor. There was so much media there,
you would have thought it was like a
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national political convention.
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Michael Jackson arriving with his mother
and brother Jermaine was greeted by
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both cheers and jeers.
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The entire world was focused on whether
Michael Jackson is or is not a
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pedophile.
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This was the most expensive prosecution
in the history of Santa Barbara County.
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Michael Jackson's word against theirs.
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They say he exposes kids to alcohol,
porn, and...
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Strange sexual behavior.
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He is very serious, subdued. He came in,
he waved briefly to his fans. He came
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in with Jermaine, his brother, and his
mother.
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He was elaborately dressed, sort of a
regal thing.
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He also wore a band, and I guess the
significance of the band was for him
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saying, I'm innocent.
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From everything I've seen and I've heard
and I've followed, there's no way he's
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guilty, you know.
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The sale of his record soared. I said,
Michael, your records are selling like
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hotcakes. Your fans believe in you.
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And I am going to prove you innocent.
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The jury in the Michael Jackson trial
will hear two very different stories
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opening statements began today.
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The defense is expected to describe
Jackson as the victim of a money -hungry
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who coached her son to lie for cash.
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The prosecution, on the other hand, will
paint Jackson as a wicked pedophile who
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got a sick boy drunk to molest him.
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Did I ever feel that we had it in the
bag? No, not at all. Not at all.
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I knew that ultimately, for a jury, it
would be very easy for them to absolve
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themselves of any of the responsibility
of him going off into prison.
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That was my biggest fear.
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Now it's all up to them, the jury. Four
men, eight women.
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You're very conscious of what you're
doing and what the magnitude of your
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participation is.
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It's Michael Jackson's legacy up for
grabs.
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Is he going to be remembered as this
person that just loved children or one
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the world's greatest entertainers who
was a child molester?
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It was Martin Bashir's documentary,
Living With Michael Jackson, which
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an investigation which led to this
trial.
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When people hear that children from
other families have come and they've
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in your house, they've stayed in your
bedroom,
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Well, very few.
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But, you know, some have.
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I thought that that was good, compelling
evidence for us. It's the admission
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that he sleeps with kids.
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Is that really appropriate for a man, a
grown man, to be doing that? How do you
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respond to that? I feel sorry for them
because that's judging someone who wants
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to really help people.
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Why can't you share your bed?
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The most loving thing to do is to share
your bed with someone.
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You really think that?
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Yeah.
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Martin Bashir's reaction to it, I
thought was the reaction a reasonable
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would have.
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How do you justify having children in
your bed?
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What other adult man do you know
anywhere in the world who does that
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a pedophile?
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Who would you be willing to let your
children sleep with in terms of an adult
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man?
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And the answer is nobody.
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The defense set out to undermine Martin
Bashir's credibility, bombarding him
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with questions, most of which he refused
to answer, citing a journalist's right
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to protect his sources.
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Jackson and Gavin had a very emotional
connection.
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When they first met, Gavin was
recovering from cancer, he had been
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sick, and Michael Jackson was there to
offer support.
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Gavin said Michael would do things that
would take down inhibitions.
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And then it escalates into increasingly
sexual language. So he's
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desensitizing kids.
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He makes them feel like they're
culpable. He uses the word we.
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We're doing this. We'd be in trouble.
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He... incorporates the child in all of
the misbehavior,
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you're already in trouble for drinking
alcohol,
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watching porn.
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Like, there's already a million things
your mom can never know about by the
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you're abused.
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Michael Jackson's public persona was the
person who just loved children.
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And what he was trying to convince
people of was that he really was the
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-day Peter Pan.
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But there is no such thing as Peter Pan.
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What he was always doing was looking for
a child that he could eventually get
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into his bed.
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And, of course, it was Gavin who was the
target of his attentions.
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For Gavin, it was worse than getting
cancer, which how can you...
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say that? How can anybody say that about
anything?
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I know Gavin, and Gavin's just a very
truthful person.
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He isn't the person that wants to hang
on to a lot of baggage.
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He's just going to confront what this is
and deal with the repercussions.
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The key witnesses in this extraordinary
trial whisked into court this morning
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through a side entrance.
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Gavin, Michael Jackson's accuser.
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It's the big moment of the trial.
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The accuser is taking the stand.
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The heart of the testimony is going to
be delivered by the accuser on this day.
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I was standing right there outside the
courthouse waiting for Michael Jackson
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arrive, and that is the day that Michael
Jackson doesn't come to court.
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His face etched with anxiety, Michael
Jackson's lawyer waits for a client
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gone missing.
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The judge says, you better get to court
within the hour or I'm going to arrest
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you. We're just waiting on pins and
needles, literally staring at where the
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is supposed to show up.
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Everybody's like, is he going to show?
Isn't he going to show? What on earth is
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going on here?
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There was a giant motorcade.
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helicopters above as Michael Jackson
raced from the hospital to the
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They were driving up the 101 freeway at
110 miles an hour.
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Because the judge said, if you're not
here in an hour, I'm forfeiting your
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Somebody was going to get killed.
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I was furious.
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Judge, you have to understand this man's
life and the people surrounding him.
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Nope. An hour. That's it.
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It was like watching a movie unfold, but
you're part of the movie.
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A strange day was just about to get even
stranger.
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After a while, he shows up, and he gets
out very slowly in his
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pajamas.
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All the focus shifts to outside court,
not to the little boy.
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waiting in the wings to testify and
accuse Michael Jackson of molestation.
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Imagine what he was going through.
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A couple ways to look at this. First of
all, he really was hurt and needed to
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get to the hospital. The other is that
maybe it's just a ploy to drum up some
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kind of sympathy from the jury.
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A cynic would say, brilliant
orchestration to destabilize the
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I mean, this guy knows.
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how to direct the attention to him and
away from what's happening inside court.
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And he did it over and over and over
again.
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What does this kid have to say?
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Well, I'll tell you, he comes across as
a very believable, articulate, and
475
00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:15,170
sympathetic witness.
476
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:19,230
This boy has been waiting in the wings
for this moment, and his moment has
477
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:22,770
It's kind of strange.
478
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:28,290
You know, here we sit, you know, 20
years later, and I'm still remembering.
479
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:35,660
how I felt, he absolutely looked
believable to me.
480
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:43,000
To me he appeared to be a child that was
going through this really
481
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:49,480
terrible struggle to admit
482
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:56,360
that as a boy he had been molested by a
483
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,360
man.
484
00:36:57,610 --> 00:37:02,110
Now you have to tell your story in front
of the world, talk about all these
485
00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,630
things that you did. You know, that's
really hard to do.
486
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:11,230
It's the worst thing that a boy would
ever have to say out loud.
487
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:16,330
It's why most men go to their death with
these secrets.
488
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:25,070
And now the race is on.
489
00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:30,430
Can Jackson's defense sufficiently
discredit a child witness over the next
490
00:37:30,430 --> 00:37:32,270
days without upsetting him?
491
00:37:32,510 --> 00:37:36,750
We went to trial with the molestations
that took place in the three -week
492
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,210
after the Bashir documentary.
493
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:42,750
We believe that he was molesting Gavin
prior to that as well.
494
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:48,830
But I think that the bulk of the
molestation and all of the charged
495
00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:51,310
the molestation occurred during the
three -week period.
496
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:54,540
Why would he do it with that focus of
attention?
497
00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:56,780
The answer is he can't help himself.
498
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,140
He was a pedophile.
499
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,760
Michael Jackson's lawyers are taking aim
at his accuser.
500
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,640
Jackson's lawyer's clear intention is to
paint this boy as someone whose word
501
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,980
the jury simply cannot afford to trust.
502
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,600
We asked the prosecution when it was
that Michael Jackson molested Gavin
503
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,720
Harvey's. One incident was February
21st, they said.
504
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,920
The family was at the ranch. Gavin was
in bed with Michael and Star, the
505
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,300
brother, came up the stairway and Star
saw Michael masturbating the boy in bed.
506
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,080
I said, really?
507
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,600
I have here an article from the Palm
Beach newspaper, February 22, that the
508
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,120
before Michael Jackson was seen shopping
in Palm Beach, Florida.
509
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:48,120
Now, how was it that he was at Neverland
Ranch on the 21st?
510
00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:52,030
Bingo, I got him. Michael was telling
the truth.
511
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:53,670
These accusers were not.
512
00:38:56,730 --> 00:39:01,890
It's a tough thing for kids to come
forward and publicly talk about having
513
00:39:01,890 --> 00:39:02,970
victim of sex crime.
514
00:39:03,870 --> 00:39:09,310
Very often, the victims of sexual abuse
can't say with certainty the details of
515
00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:12,430
what had happened on this occasion or
that occasion or the next occasion.
516
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:14,730
It's just the nature of the phenomena.
517
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:19,130
This isn't a whodunit where there's
clearly a crime and one or more victims.
518
00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:20,850
This is a, did it really happen?
519
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:27,210
Everything about this case is
confounding.
520
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:31,410
There's the innocent explanation and the
sinister explanation.
521
00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:35,230
Is Gavin the accuser credible?
522
00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:37,210
Is Michael Jackson credible?
523
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:38,890
You decide.
524
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,440
The defense in the Michael Jackson trial
suffered a big setback today. The judge
525
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,380
said he will allow the prosecution to
present evidence that Jackson has been
526
00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:56,900
accused of molesting children before.
527
00:39:57,580 --> 00:40:03,220
What we were able to bring in with
regards to past bad acts was that a
528
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:07,180
years earlier, Jordan Chandler walked
away with millions of dollars.
529
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:12,560
The jury looks at that and they think,
come on, how is this going to happen
530
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,490
twice? It's a huge blow to Jackson, and
it's great news for prosecutors. They
531
00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:21,450
essentially get a second chance to make
a first impression, and the whole case
532
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:23,090
has changed. It's a new dynamic.
533
00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:31,090
What happened 10 years ago is
irrelevant.
534
00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:38,990
You have to prove the defendant guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt based on what
535
00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:42,350
they did now, not what they did before.
536
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Oh, you can besmirch the defendant, you
can make the defendant look bad.
537
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:49,080
That's not evidence.
538
00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:51,600
That's character assassination.
539
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:59,960
When I left Neverland and walked out of
that job, me and a lot of the employees,
540
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,860
we sued Mr. Jackson for the treatment
that we got, the things that we saw,
541
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,740
Michael with kids and stuff.
542
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,920
There were a lot of different counts,
and there was molestation in there.
543
00:41:12,910 --> 00:41:15,170
The judge ruled that we could not bring
up molestation.
544
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:18,170
We lost our lawsuit.
545
00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:24,610
So when I got called for his trial, I
didn't want nothing to do with Michael.
546
00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:28,170
I didn't even want to look at him.
547
00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:33,490
Former Jackson maid Adrienne McManus is
now on the stand. She is talking about
548
00:41:33,490 --> 00:41:36,710
the parade of young boys who came
through Neverland.
549
00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:43,310
When I walked in there, he looked at me
like... Oh, Adrian, where have you been?
550
00:41:43,790 --> 00:41:44,790
I've missed you.
551
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:48,810
That angered me because I could see the
games through him.
552
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:53,850
You know, I saw what he did to me. I saw
that he only cared about himself.
553
00:41:54,990 --> 00:42:00,690
I said what I had to say about what I
saw with Mr. Jackson and Jordan Chandler
554
00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:02,050
and what I had seen.
555
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:05,070
And Michael just turned his face.
556
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:07,350
He would not look at me again.
557
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:10,070
And I thought, good, I am free from you
now.
558
00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:12,430
You don't control me.
559
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:22,690
I truly felt that Michael Jackson was a
child molester.
560
00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:27,730
I felt that then, and I haven't changed
my mind now. I still feel that way.
561
00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:31,950
But I had to give Michael Jackson the
benefit of the doubt.
562
00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:36,110
You know, he really didn't do this or
whatever. That's what the jury was
563
00:42:36,110 --> 00:42:37,110
supposed to do.
564
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,960
What should have been a damaging account
instead fizzled after Tom Mesereau
565
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,280
dismantled her on cross -examination,
getting her to admit she tried to sue
566
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,900
Jackson and lost, and lied in an earlier
deposition.
567
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:54,300
They destroyed us.
568
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:02,320
So, and that's, like I said, I get angry
that, you know, a lot of people,
569
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:07,220
especially the jurors, right away they
were like, yeah, these people.
570
00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:13,970
They just want money. They just want
money. It was a tough situation dealing
571
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:14,970
with that.
572
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:20,710
The problem that we had was that a
number of the people who worked for him
573
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:27,650
brought a lawsuit against him and lost
and ended up with a
574
00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:34,110
judgment against them for expenses, a
judgment that they never paid,
575
00:43:34,270 --> 00:43:37,070
and it seriously affected their
credibility.
576
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,800
and their ability to be able to talk
about what had happened.
577
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:42,720
It really hurt us.
578
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:52,280
There was another witness that really,
to this day, sticks with me, was
579
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,660
Jordan Chandler's mom.
580
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:01,580
The latest twist in his trial, a claim
that Michael Jackson begged a young
581
00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:04,540
mother to allow the youngster to sleep
with him.
582
00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:10,130
That allegation was made by June
Chandler, who said she was showered with
583
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:15,150
jewelry by the singer as he swept her
family off on trips to Monaco, Florida,
584
00:44:15,350 --> 00:44:16,350
and Las Vegas.
585
00:44:17,170 --> 00:44:22,310
I remember her taking a stand just 10
years after Jordan's situation.
586
00:44:24,970 --> 00:44:31,910
And she said she was a horrible mother,
and her exact words was, I sold my son
587
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:33,270
to Michael Jackson.
588
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,980
She said that she hadn't heard from her
son, and she understood why.
589
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,300
I just thought, oh, my gosh.
590
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:47,400
It moved me. I can't understand how it
would not have moved any jury.
591
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:55,940
I thought it was very damaging
testimony, particularly the moment where
592
00:44:55,940 --> 00:45:01,260
that Michael Jackson, crying and shaking
and trembling, begged her to allow.
593
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:08,360
her son to sleep with him and basically
said we're family well they're not
594
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,060
family why should a mother be asked to
trust a middle -aged man to be entitled
595
00:45:14,060 --> 00:45:20,760
to sleep with her son i thought oh my
gosh what kind of grown man
596
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:26,800
would try because this mother decides
she don't want to bring her little boy
597
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,420
have a sleepover with you and i thought
598
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:36,040
She's gonna lose this thing what
possessed a mother to allow her son to
599
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,760
stranger's bed was never made clear But
asked by the prosecution as she
600
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,400
concluded her testimony whether she
regretted placing her trust in Michael
601
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:52,320
Jackson June Chandler replied very much
though The message it was kind
602
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,500
of clear to me
603
00:45:54,670 --> 00:46:00,010
The parents didn't protect their sons
because they were groomed as much as the
604
00:46:00,010 --> 00:46:04,390
kids were into thinking that everything
was going to be okay.
605
00:46:04,750 --> 00:46:09,990
They were as awestruck with Michael
Jackson as the kids themselves.
606
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:19,370
This was what Michael Jackson would do.
He was able to win over the loyalty.
607
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,140
of the mothers of these children by
giving them lavish gifts and treating
608
00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:25,140
to a lavish lifestyle.
609
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,680
We had Jordan Chandler's mother in
there. We had the proof that there was a
610
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,400
settlement. We had the proof that he had
spent an endless amount of time in bed
611
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,860
with him. I've won cases with no more
evidence than that.
612
00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:47,160
There's witness after witness that say
Jackson had the pattern and practice of
613
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,400
molesting children. And I'll tell you,
the jury's going to look to that, and
614
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,260
they're going to have a difficult time
saying that Jackson is not a pedophile
615
00:46:54,260 --> 00:46:55,260
this case.
616
00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:06,130
If you've been affected, you can get
support by heading to channel4 .com
617
00:47:06,130 --> 00:47:10,930
support and the case concludes tomorrow
night from 9. Or stream the whole of
618
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