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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:37,950 --> 00:00:44,620 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:58,950 --> 00:01:02,200 [reporter] rescue diver Richard Harris… 3 00:01:02,290 --> 00:01:04,000 - [reporter 2] - [reporter 3] 4 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,950 [reporter 4] that gripped the entire world… 5 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,790 [reporter 5] Thai soccer players and their coach 6 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:10,580 trapped in a flooded cave… 7 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:14,200 [reporter 6] anaesthetist and specialist cave diver 8 00:01:14,290 --> 00:01:15,790 named Australian of the Year… 9 00:01:15,870 --> 00:01:17,620 [reporter 7] for his crucial role 10 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,096 in the rescue of a young soccer team… 11 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,580 [reporter 8] their heroic efforts to rescue 12 00:01:21,660 --> 00:01:25,410 the 12 boys and their coach from a flooded cave in Thailand in 2018. 13 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:27,620 Would you please welcome Dr. Richard Harris. 14 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:30,620 [audience cheering, applauding] 15 00:01:33,580 --> 00:01:38,450 - [dramatic music playing] - [helicopter blades whirring] 16 00:01:38,830 --> 00:01:40,160 [Richard] 17 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,540 People have said, "Oh you must have a death wish to do what you do". 18 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:53,290 But when I'm cave diving, I've never felt more alive. 19 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:56,330 I mean it's definitely a personal quest. 20 00:01:56,410 --> 00:01:58,410 It's not to prove something to anyone else. 21 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:00,540 It's definitely to prove something to myself. 22 00:02:02,410 --> 00:02:07,120 The more you do it, the more you need to do it to satisfy whatever that drive 23 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,660 to do it in the first place was. 24 00:02:09,950 --> 00:02:12,450 [helicopter blades whirring] 25 00:02:12,540 --> 00:02:15,040 [Richard] it means so much to me. 26 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:20,120 But diving this cave, it's an obsession. 27 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:26,040 [dramatic music playing] 28 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:31,200 [water gurgling] 29 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:41,120 [music quietens] 30 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:44,450 [birds squawking] 31 00:02:54,950 --> 00:02:56,830 [Richard] of cave diving, 32 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,250 at some stage you're going to hear about this cave in New Zealand 33 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:01,950 called the Pearse Resurgence. 34 00:03:04,290 --> 00:03:06,620 [water rustling] 35 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:15,410 [dramatic music playing] 36 00:03:17,370 --> 00:03:21,290 [Richard] has the potential to be the deepest 37 00:03:21,370 --> 00:03:23,200 dived cave in the world. 38 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:33,790 This is my ninth trip to the Pearse Resurgence. 39 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,700 This trip is different because we're doing something 40 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:38,410 that has never been done before. 41 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:44,040 It's the most dangerous thing we've ever attempted. 42 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,750 - [indistinct chatter] - [dramatic music playing] 43 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,330 [Richard] we've got a secret weapon. 44 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:56,000 And if it works, it'll allow us to go deeper than we've ever been before. 45 00:03:56,620 --> 00:04:02,200 - [helicopter blades whirring] - [Fiona] Maybe I've just got this sense 46 00:04:02,290 --> 00:04:05,120 that this trip's the one that shouldn't be happening, 47 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,160 that maybe the last one should have been the last one. 48 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,750 I maybe feel as though they're… 49 00:04:12,870 --> 00:04:14,120 tempting fate a little bit. 50 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,540 [birds chirping] 51 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:26,660 [Richard] The passion to do this is so strong. It's hard to explain. 52 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,580 There's something deep inside me… 53 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:31,870 and I can't let it go. 54 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:37,830 - [seagulls squawking] - [dramatic music playing] 55 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:38,910 [Richard] 56 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:40,660 drawn to depth… 57 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,080 very early on. 58 00:04:43,620 --> 00:04:47,160 As a young boy, spending time on the ocean with my father… 59 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:49,910 it was just a great time in my life. 60 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:54,750 And I can remember being in the boat with Dad… 61 00:04:55,370 --> 00:04:59,250 I was always looking at the horizon and wondering what was out there. 62 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:06,080 But I guess it was around puberty… 63 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 [referee whistling] 64 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:11,870 …I was a bit left behind in terms of strength and coordination… 65 00:05:13,540 --> 00:05:15,790 and if you don't fit in, then you become a target. 66 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:19,410 And then you get a bit rejected by that group. 67 00:05:19,910 --> 00:05:22,660 It was quite a tricky time for me, I think. 68 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:25,950 [dramatic music playing] 69 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:30,000 [Richard] I loved being underwater. 70 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,080 [water gurgling] 71 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:34,330 [Richard] It's a beautiful feeling. 72 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:39,910 There is a sense of being in a dark cocoon and it's completely silent. 73 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:44,160 [dramatic music playing] 74 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:46,410 [Richard] 75 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:51,200 And suddenly I felt like, well, actually I don't need those other guys. 76 00:05:52,290 --> 00:05:53,890 Here is something that I can be good at. 77 00:05:58,330 --> 00:06:01,700 [water gurgling] 78 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:16,580 [Richard] 79 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:18,910 he just didn't get it. 80 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:22,750 He was worried, I think. He found it nerve-wracking 81 00:06:22,830 --> 00:06:24,370 to think about my cave diving. 82 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:26,500 [water splashing, gurgling] 83 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:28,790 [Richard] I don't know if he felt I was being reckless 84 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:32,700 or irresponsible by spending time away from family, 85 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:34,290 especially once I had children. 86 00:06:35,330 --> 00:06:38,580 But the disapproval gathered momentum, I would say. 87 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,160 [Fiona] I'm not a risk-taker. 88 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:46,290 The risk I've had to manage is living with the risk that he's taking. 89 00:06:46,370 --> 00:06:47,790 [indistinct chatter] 90 00:06:47,870 --> 00:06:49,450 [Fiona] three children. 91 00:06:49,540 --> 00:06:51,250 [Richard] Daddy got a new video camera. 92 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:53,330 [Fiona] They grew up with… 93 00:06:53,750 --> 00:06:55,950 a father that was a cave diver, 94 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,580 so they probably thought everyone's dad was a cave diver. 95 00:07:00,290 --> 00:07:01,750 I do remember thinking… 96 00:07:02,450 --> 00:07:05,950 life's going to be pretty hard if I'm left as a widow 97 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,370 with three young children to support. 98 00:07:10,450 --> 00:07:14,950 But if someone really loves doing something… 99 00:07:16,410 --> 00:07:17,620 and you love them… 100 00:07:18,410 --> 00:07:22,200 - [motorcycle engine revving] - …what else can you say? 101 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:26,200 [water gurgling] 102 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:35,540 [Richard] this absolute love for cave diving, 103 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:39,910 of course I wanted to stretch myself. I wanted to go further and deeper. 104 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,620 [soft music playing] 105 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,330 [Richard] So, I set myself these goals. 106 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,500 Go to the big caves. 107 00:07:49,660 --> 00:07:53,500 The Pearse Resurgence, it's truly legendary amongst cave divers. 108 00:07:54,580 --> 00:07:56,426 If you want to challenge yourself in cave diving, 109 00:07:56,450 --> 00:07:58,450 that's the sort of place you want to go. 110 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,370 So, I joined this expedition with two of the cave diving legends, 111 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:07,660 Dave Apperley from Australia and Rick Stanton from the UK. 112 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:11,540 And both these guys had this aura about them. 113 00:08:11,620 --> 00:08:16,040 They'd been doing dives well over 100 metres since the late '90s. 114 00:08:16,540 --> 00:08:18,830 They were like these gods of cave diving. 115 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:23,330 It's such a harsh environment that no amount of people 116 00:08:23,410 --> 00:08:26,410 telling you what it's like is going to get you ready for it. 117 00:08:26,500 --> 00:08:27,790 You just have to experience it. 118 00:08:28,910 --> 00:08:32,370 [dramatic music playing] 119 00:08:32,830 --> 00:08:35,580 [Richard] intimidating place to be. 120 00:08:36,950 --> 00:08:41,450 You enter this cave which just seems to swallow you as you go into it. 121 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,620 It's black. The walls of this cave are so dark they just soak up your lights. 122 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,790 You come to this abyssal drop which goes over an edge 123 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:53,660 and drops down to over 100 metres in depth. 124 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,410 But this is just the start of this journey into the depths. 125 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:02,120 [water gurgling] 126 00:09:09,450 --> 00:09:12,410 [Richard] a bit of a train wreck for me. 127 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,000 [water bubbling] 128 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:19,790 [Richard] I had a suit flood. I got the bends, 129 00:09:19,870 --> 00:09:22,830 and had to be treated with oxygen on the surface. 130 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:24,700 My arse had been kicked a bit to be honest. 131 00:09:25,870 --> 00:09:27,476 - [indistinct chatter] - [Richard] The most advanced 132 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,620 diving certification you can get is to 100 metres. 133 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:33,250 And for many technical divers, that would be the pinnacle 134 00:09:33,330 --> 00:09:35,000 of their diving career, no question. 135 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:39,450 And so when I saw Rick Stanton with his homemade rebreather, 136 00:09:39,540 --> 00:09:41,750 it looked like something he got from the hardware store… 137 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:46,120 and he just casually swam down to 177 metres and then back out again. 138 00:09:46,950 --> 00:09:49,080 [soft music playing] 139 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,120 [Richard] my whole paradigm 140 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,250 about what is possible in a cave. 141 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,910 That was the trigger for me really wanting to be an explorer like those guys. 142 00:10:08,750 --> 00:10:10,450 [water splashing] 143 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:14,910 - Well, she goes deep. - [all cheering] 144 00:10:15,410 --> 00:10:18,910 I thought I was a competent cave diver, but I was just at the beginning. 145 00:10:19,660 --> 00:10:21,700 [Richard] Day four in the Pearse Resurgence, Rick… 146 00:10:22,290 --> 00:10:25,040 [all laughing] 147 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,410 - [David] Oh, sorry, you're rolling. - [all laughing] 148 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:30,870 [Richard] The divers you're diving with, some of the best you've seen 149 00:10:30,950 --> 00:10:32,430 - or how would you rate them? - [laughs] 150 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:34,676 Yeah, they're the greatest divers I've ever had the pleasure 151 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:35,700 of diving with. 152 00:10:36,250 --> 00:10:37,676 [Richard] I walked away from that expedition 153 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:39,500 with my tail between my legs… 154 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:42,790 but I could not stop thinking about that cave. 155 00:10:44,830 --> 00:10:46,330 So the following year I went back. 156 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:49,040 I only had two friends to come with me. 157 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,250 This was by far the most ambitious dive that I had ever attempted… 158 00:10:54,830 --> 00:10:58,660 but it became a challenge that I knew I just had to complete. 159 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:01,450 Can I be as good a diver as Rick? 160 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:04,250 - [dramatic music playing] - [Richard] 161 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,870 Can I go even a little bit further? 162 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,750 I remember very clearly scootering down that tunnel. 163 00:11:16,830 --> 00:11:19,790 [water gurgling] 164 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:34,580 [Richard] 165 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,580 And there it is. It's tied off to this rock. 166 00:11:43,830 --> 00:11:46,580 And I realised that when I go past that point, 167 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:50,620 I've gone the furthest into this cave that anyone's been before. 168 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:56,750 And suddenly it's like, you know, there be dragons. 169 00:11:57,370 --> 00:12:00,870 Who knows what dangers and threats lurk down there. 170 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:14,160 And I ended up doing a dive down to 182 metres. 171 00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:18,790 [soft music playing] 172 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:21,830 - [water splashes] - [man laughs] 173 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:24,950 How about a smile for the camera, Dr Harris? 174 00:12:28,370 --> 00:12:31,410 [Richard] And I guess that's the first time 175 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,830 that I started to feel like maybe I am worthy 176 00:12:34,910 --> 00:12:37,790 of rubbing shoulders with guys like this. 177 00:12:42,330 --> 00:12:43,540 But that feeling wears off. 178 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,370 So then you need to go and reprove it to yourself… 179 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Or I do. 180 00:12:49,950 --> 00:12:53,200 - [dramatic music playing] - [helicopter blades whirring] 181 00:12:53,290 --> 00:12:57,540 [Richard] I became just obsessed with going back. 182 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:01,200 [helicopter blades whirring] 183 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:04,290 [Richard] that's where Craig Challen 184 00:13:04,370 --> 00:13:07,250 enters the story as a willing accomplice. 185 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:10,620 That looks fucking awesome coming in there, doesn't it? 186 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:14,120 - And you think, where are we going? - [Richard] What's your first impression? 187 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,596 [Craig] I want to go and have a look at the hole. 188 00:13:15,620 --> 00:13:19,500 [Richard] this whole process of repeated expeditions 189 00:13:19,580 --> 00:13:21,120 back to the Pearse Resurgence. 190 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:26,450 The next five trips or so, the map starts to evolve 191 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:29,700 as we explore and find more and more of this cave. 192 00:13:29,790 --> 00:13:33,830 [dramatic music playing] 193 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:39,370 So the Pearse Resurgence has really become a career defining dive and site, 194 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:41,830 I think, for both Harry and myself. 195 00:13:42,910 --> 00:13:45,660 The big deal about this cave, of course, is the depth. 196 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:54,120 I thought that maybe I would do a 100 metre dive one day. 197 00:13:55,330 --> 00:13:58,370 And now we're diving beyond 200 metres… 198 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,080 and we're not done with it yet. 199 00:14:01,450 --> 00:14:03,660 [water gurgling] 200 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,540 [Richard] to reach the point… 201 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,540 where I'm questioning the safety of these deep dives. 202 00:14:18,830 --> 00:14:23,120 At extremely deep depths, the gas you're breathing becomes very dense, 203 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:24,540 hard to breathe. 204 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:29,080 And the deeper you go, the worse that gets. 205 00:14:29,580 --> 00:14:32,830 So suddenly you find you can't get enough air into your lungs. 206 00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:38,120 And the second problem is that you get a neurological impairment, 207 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:40,580 the high-pressure neurological syndrome. 208 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,870 Which is caused simply by pressure… 209 00:14:43,370 --> 00:14:46,370 which can manifest as quite bad tremors or shakes 210 00:14:46,450 --> 00:14:48,120 that makes it hard to do anything. 211 00:14:49,950 --> 00:14:53,000 [Richard] I get to about 180 metres in the caves 212 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,080 and just starts as this very fine tremor… 213 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,870 and becomes more and more disabling the deeper we go. 214 00:14:59,950 --> 00:15:01,910 [dramatic music playing] 215 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,750 [Richard] it's quite frightening. 216 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,080 People have died because of this syndrome. 217 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,330 If there's any chance of getting deep, I mean really deep in this cave, 218 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:17,500 then we're going to have to do something different. 219 00:15:17,580 --> 00:15:21,200 [Craig] we need to find a gas that's light 220 00:15:21,290 --> 00:15:25,500 and that has slight narcotic properties to reduce those tremors. 221 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,750 The only gas that fits that description… 222 00:15:31,250 --> 00:15:32,250 is hydrogen 223 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,250 [stopwatch ticks, clicks] 224 00:15:37,330 --> 00:15:39,910 [Richard] that in the '80s and early '90s 225 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,040 there was a big investigation into hydrogen diving. 226 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,660 And I started to obsess about it a little bit. 227 00:15:46,750 --> 00:15:51,200 [man 2] hydrogen diving undertaken since 1983 228 00:15:51,290 --> 00:15:54,790 has demonstrated the advantageous properties of this gas… 229 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:57,160 [Richard] And in the end they abandoned the program 230 00:15:57,250 --> 00:15:59,200 because they couldn't overcome the risks. 231 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,500 But I thought this could be the solution we're looking for. 232 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:04,370 And I started to talk to Craig about it. 233 00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:08,290 I've got to say that I wasn't particularly looking forward to the gas mixing. 234 00:16:08,370 --> 00:16:11,000 And the combining of the hydrogen with oxygen 235 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,500 - didn't turn me on too much. - Yes… 236 00:16:14,370 --> 00:16:16,330 diving with hydrogen does scare me. 237 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:19,370 [man 3] from Frankfurt, 238 00:16:19,450 --> 00:16:21,950 the Hindenburg approaches New York City. 239 00:16:22,370 --> 00:16:25,200 Inside are 16 gas cells. 240 00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:28,660 Each filled with hydrogen, a highly inflammable gas. 241 00:16:28,750 --> 00:16:30,870 [Simon] If you don't handle it correctly… 242 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:37,080 then it can cause problems in that regard. It can explode. 243 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,540 - [explosion] - [indistinct chatter] 244 00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:44,370 And how much experience have we had handling hydrogen? Zero. 245 00:16:44,450 --> 00:16:45,870 [gas tank hissing] 246 00:16:46,450 --> 00:16:50,830 [Richard] of the breathing mixture 247 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:54,410 above 4% will cause instantaneous combustion. 248 00:16:54,830 --> 00:16:57,330 So you can imagine a diver switching to the wrong gas 249 00:16:57,410 --> 00:16:59,200 or a change in his oxygen content 250 00:16:59,290 --> 00:17:01,910 and basically his lungs exploding underwater. 251 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,660 [water gurgling] 252 00:17:07,870 --> 00:17:10,450 [Richard] going to get deeper in this cave, 253 00:17:10,540 --> 00:17:12,660 that's the only solution we have available to us. 254 00:17:14,750 --> 00:17:18,750 [Craig] We don't really know if the risks involved 255 00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:22,500 are worth it for the benefit that we're going to get. 256 00:17:22,950 --> 00:17:25,200 But there's only one way to find out. 257 00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:32,250 [dramatic music playing] 258 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,160 [Richard] and use hydrogen as a breathing gas. 259 00:17:47,410 --> 00:17:52,330 [Craig] for deep diving like this by anyone. 260 00:17:52,410 --> 00:17:55,830 It's never been used by technical divers using rebreathers, ever 261 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,660 We have little choice but to essentially set ourselves up as guinea pigs. 262 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,330 [Simon] 263 00:18:02,410 --> 00:18:05,120 It'd be good if there was some sure way of making certain 264 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,000 that we couldn't be on the wrong gas. 265 00:18:08,750 --> 00:18:12,450 Well, we know we're on the right one to start with. There's only one way to go. 266 00:18:12,540 --> 00:18:14,260 [Craig] Personally it wouldn't be my choice. 267 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:18,330 I think there are significant risks associated with it. 268 00:18:18,410 --> 00:18:19,410 Good idea? 269 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,370 - Yeah it's a good idea for you. - [all laughing] 270 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,200 [Richard] such a massive undertaking, 271 00:18:30,290 --> 00:18:33,950 as a solo operator, you have to be part of a team. 272 00:18:34,750 --> 00:18:38,500 And cave diving has its characters, 273 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:42,290 not necessarily the sort of people you'd find on a rugby team. 274 00:18:42,790 --> 00:18:46,160 [Ken] who get into cave diving 275 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:48,080 tend to be slight loners. 276 00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:50,000 Look, we're a bit nerdy I think. 277 00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:53,410 There's some very big intellects in our group. 278 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,750 - [water rustling] - [Craig] 279 00:18:56,830 --> 00:18:59,080 and self-reliant. 280 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,386 - It's all rigged up for you now anyway. - [indistinct chatter] 281 00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:05,160 [Craig] You know, if you get it, you get it. 282 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:08,160 [Richard] of all these expeditions 283 00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:12,450 we've got this amazing team that's grown around the mission to dive this cave. 284 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:17,290 We've called ourselves the Wetmills, sort of stubborn and often wet and miserable 285 00:19:17,370 --> 00:19:20,500 and often carrying very heavy things through these caves. 286 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,950 [Craig] an elite amongst divers. 287 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,500 [Richard] have number of very strict rules. 288 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:30,500 The first one is have fun, don't die, safety third… 289 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,500 - -[water splashing] 290 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:35,450 Ken's our resident boffin. He's the best. 291 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:38,500 [Ken] People think I'm a bit on the spectrum. 292 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:42,000 Yes, I guess I'm a bit of a technical nerd. I like electronics. 293 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,660 [Richard] Professor of Anaesthesiology, 294 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:46,550 which kind of tells you what you need to know. 295 00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:49,700 Planet-sized brain, world expert in diving medicine, 296 00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:53,830 one of the most experienced, if not the most experienced divers in the team. 297 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:59,410 Luke Nelson, super hard work unit, like he's always fixing tinkering. 298 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:02,780 You don't know your stuff's broken until he comes and tells you that he's fixed it. 299 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:08,330 Big Dave Hurst, I reckon he is the most naturally talented diver 300 00:20:08,410 --> 00:20:11,160 - -Happy as ready to roll, yeah. 301 00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:13,790 [Richard] as he has become known 302 00:20:13,870 --> 00:20:17,040 in the presence of Big Dave Hurst, hardcore. 303 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:20,830 He's one of the most physically and mentally tough guys I know. 304 00:20:20,910 --> 00:20:23,080 [soft music playing] 305 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,790 [Richard] this bunch of people have become 306 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:28,580 the most important people in my life. 307 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,200 [indistinct chatter] 308 00:20:33,790 --> 00:20:36,910 [birds chirping] 309 00:20:39,330 --> 00:20:41,120 [Ken] 310 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,500 that some of the other deep caves don't have. 311 00:20:43,580 --> 00:20:46,410 [Simon] that it's six degree water, 312 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,660 and it's six degrees all year round. 313 00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:52,540 It doesn't matter whether it's the middle of summer or the middle of winter. 314 00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:53,620 [Craig] 315 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,410 [water splashing] 316 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,250 [Craig] 317 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,200 [man 4] Is it warmer? 318 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,080 What? 319 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:09,040 [Ken] The trouble with getting cold on a dive is that it's uncomfortable. 320 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,800 It also gives you a sense of apprehension, 321 00:21:10,830 --> 00:21:13,660 you know, once you start feeling cold, you start to get anxious. 322 00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:17,790 [Richard] are these heated dry suits. 323 00:21:17,870 --> 00:21:19,200 It's a hot and sweaty business. 324 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:20,500 [Richard] 325 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,910 they work so long as they don't leak… 326 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:29,250 but if you get to the deepest part of the dive and your dry suit floods, 327 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:32,410 - -[water gurgling] 328 00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:36,870 [dramatic music playing] 329 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:40,040 [Richard] If you do a really deep dive, you can't just return 330 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:41,620 straight back up to the surface. 331 00:21:41,950 --> 00:21:44,790 If you bolt to the surface, you basically fill up with bubbles 332 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:47,620 and they destroy your brain, your spinal cord, 333 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:50,500 you have a heart attack, block your lungs so you suffocate. 334 00:21:50,580 --> 00:21:52,660 It's a particularly violent and horrible death. 335 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,830 So you have to stop along the way and decompress. 336 00:21:55,910 --> 00:21:58,500 [dramatic music playing] 337 00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:03,040 [Craig] somewhere between 13 and 16 hours long 338 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,760 because of the decompression requirement. 339 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,250 You can't spend that amount of time submerged in the water. 340 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:12,830 [Richard] habitats in the cave. 341 00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:14,330 [dramatic music playing] 342 00:22:14,410 --> 00:22:17,500 [Richard] as little places to stop and rest 343 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:20,950 on the way back up to the surface while we're doing decompression stops. 344 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:27,750 First habitat is at seven metres. 345 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:31,250 The second habitat is at 16 metres and then 28 metres 346 00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:33,290 and then the final one is at 40 metres. 347 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:37,120 So, as we say, if you do the crime, you have to do the time. 348 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:40,700 If you do the depth, you have to do the time to come back to the surface. 349 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:48,450 [Craig] 350 00:22:48,540 --> 00:22:51,790 [water bubbling] 351 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,000 [Craig] We can hop up into them… 352 00:22:57,620 --> 00:23:00,000 sit there and do the time in there. 353 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,330 But if you are down in one of those habitats 354 00:23:04,410 --> 00:23:07,160 and you've still got hours of decompression ahead of you, 355 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:10,130 if something goes wrong, you're going to have to deal with it down there. 356 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:16,040 There is no chance of going straight back to the surface and surviving. 357 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:18,910 - [Richard] The code… - [indistinct chatter] 358 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,580 …when we arrive at a depth, 359 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:24,830 we do two short buzzers just to attract their attention 360 00:23:24,910 --> 00:23:28,540 and then we do a very long one so they can look at the gauge on the M-meter, 361 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:31,386 which actually, because of the resistance of the wire and the length of the wire, 362 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:33,160 tells them what depth we're at. 363 00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:35,290 That's a Ken Smith invention, of course. 364 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:38,250 Two beeps is, are you okay? Yes, we're okay. 365 00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:42,580 Three beeps means we're okay, but wouldn't mind seeing someone 366 00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:45,450 because we've got an issue or a question or we need some food. 367 00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:46,790 We need a visit, basically. 368 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,330 And lots of dashes just get down here now, we've got a problem. 369 00:23:50,790 --> 00:23:53,540 So, never used that one and never want to. 370 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:55,750 Right, just write this in the other habitat. 371 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:58,370 [indistinct chatter] 372 00:23:58,450 --> 00:24:01,370 Do you reckon you could do a quick trip to the 18 again and buzz me again? 373 00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:04,660 Give me two or three buzzers and I'll give you two or three. 374 00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:07,080 [machine beeping] 375 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,080 [machine beeping] 376 00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:17,700 [Richard] put in there, set up, tested. 377 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,290 A little bit of adjusting, tweaking. 378 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:22,830 So any tweaking needs to be directed by the powers that be. 379 00:24:23,450 --> 00:24:26,410 [laughter] We'll get it sorted out, though. 380 00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:30,500 [Simon] at the same time as the deep divers 381 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:32,620 are testing their diving equipment. 382 00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:36,830 [Richard] the hydrogen until the big dive… 383 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:41,080 Craig and I like to get well ahead of the game 384 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,450 by doing increasingly deep dives every single day, 385 00:24:44,540 --> 00:24:47,750 until we both reach the point that we've gone deep enough 386 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:49,910 to start to feel completely comfortable. 387 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,830 - Is that a pink helmet? - [Craig] Eh? 388 00:24:51,910 --> 00:24:54,450 - Is that a pink helmet? - No, that's a red helmet. 389 00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:56,580 [Richard] how long that takes exactly, 390 00:24:56,660 --> 00:24:59,500 but there's suddenly a moment where we both go, "I'm ready." 391 00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:03,000 - Well because it's not full of air yet. - [cylinders thudding] 392 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,080 [Craig] Oh, yeah. 393 00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:06,290 - Can only get bigger. - [water rustling] 394 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,560 You want me to get out of your way? 395 00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:10,860 - [Craig] No, I don't mind. - I'm going to go out that way. 396 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,200 That's what I'm going to do. 397 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:15,410 Really? Well, I should be there and you should be here. 398 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:17,450 [Richard] are very different people. 399 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:18,950 He's very much his own man. 400 00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:24,330 He doesn't seem to suffer the effects of any kind of slights or insults. 401 00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:26,250 He doesn't take stuff personally. 402 00:25:28,290 --> 00:25:31,450 We argued quite a bit, but it's more of an intellectual level, 403 00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:35,160 which is disadvantage for me because he is so smart. 404 00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:37,290 Arguing with him is usually futile. 405 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:44,080 - [dramatic music playing] - [water gurgling] 406 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,910 [Richard] this passion for depth. 407 00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:51,790 Which is kind of weird and hard to understand. 408 00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:55,660 We've had a couple of occasions where we've had really close calls, 409 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:57,660 within moments of drowning, I would say. 410 00:25:58,830 --> 00:26:01,620 And when things like that happen to you in the cave, 411 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:07,040 you can't help but kind of build a trust, almost an unspoken bond. 412 00:26:07,870 --> 00:26:09,426 [Richard] Sorry, Craig, I can't give it to you. 413 00:26:09,450 --> 00:26:10,450 No, that's all right. 414 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,660 [Richard] Oh, it's definitely cold. 415 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:17,450 [Craig] how I'd really describe… 416 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:20,870 Harry, it's difficult for me to be objective about that. 417 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:24,370 We've spent so much time together as, you know, 418 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:26,410 I suppose I could say he's my best mate. 419 00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:28,870 We have more or less the same outlook in the world, 420 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:31,950 and that's what's made it a really good partnership. 421 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,700 You know, we act as foils to each other. 422 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,750 Okay, this is a bit dodgy… 423 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:38,990 [Richard] Can't be any worse than your last suggestion. 424 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:42,926 I thought your other suggestion of disconnecting any form of oxygen 425 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:44,080 was a really bad one. 426 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,500 I wish I could be tougher like him, 427 00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:49,830 but on the other hand, there are things I think I bring to the friendship, 428 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:52,830 which he could benefit from a little bit more of the, 429 00:26:52,910 --> 00:26:55,000 you know, the soft touch, little a bit more emotion. 430 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:56,660 Yep, that's it there. 431 00:26:57,580 --> 00:26:58,750 - [Richard] That thing? - Yep. 432 00:26:58,830 --> 00:27:00,370 - That thing? This thing? - No, no, no. 433 00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:02,290 That's the actual switch… 434 00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:06,330 and these are the contacts. So we're going to need a wire. 435 00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:09,580 - Hooray! Manual! Hooray! - Oh! Manual! Oh! 436 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,080 - Here he is. See how friendly he is now? - Yeah. 437 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:17,080 - Now we've got a trusted bond. - Has he spotted those two corn chips 438 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,600 - by your foot, yeah? - I think he has. 439 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:20,790 And there's no dramas here, mate. 440 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,250 - You're amongst friends. - [laughs] 441 00:27:24,830 --> 00:27:28,870 [dramatic music] 442 00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:31,620 [cutlery clattering] 443 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,540 [indistinct chatter] 444 00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:47,000 All right, time to fill up these hydrogen cylinders. 445 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,840 Been a lot of talk, time for action, I think. 446 00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:52,620 We use this booster, which is like a pump… 447 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,500 but the gases inside the booster get really highly compressed, 448 00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:57,870 to which it can generate heat. 449 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,040 And, you know, heat can be bad with hydrogen. 450 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:06,580 Also bad with oxygen, and we boost oxygen very safely. 451 00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:10,370 So I'm sort of on a theoretical basis, I'm confident it should be all right. 452 00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:12,580 It's just we've never done it before, so… 453 00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:16,250 Just that little, you know, question mark in your brain. 454 00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:17,700 Is this a smart thing to do? 455 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,700 Well, the answer to that is probably no, but is it a safe enough thing to do? 456 00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:23,850 And I guess we're about to find out. 457 00:28:24,910 --> 00:28:27,790 Perhaps you want to just move back a little bit, just in case 458 00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:29,290 it's not a smart thing to do. 459 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:31,830 - [water rustling] - [birds chirping] 460 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:40,620 Boosting! 461 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:42,700 Boosting hydrogen! 462 00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:47,330 [dramatic music playing] 463 00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:52,430 [Simon] I mean, one can only interpret 464 00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:55,500 what we're doing here as an experimental dive. 465 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200 It's informed risk acceptance, and… 466 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,790 the difficulty in balancing those risks is that we don't really understand 467 00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:06,250 the magnitude of any of them. 468 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:10,950 So it's something of a crapshoot, actually. 469 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,660 And look, it's the essence of exploration. 470 00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:17,250 I mean, Edmund Hillary, when he first climbed Everest, 471 00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:18,790 knew he could die. Well… 472 00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:22,830 these guys know that that's a potential outcome here. 473 00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:26,290 They're not averse to risk. 474 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,000 They're not inexperienced at managing it. 475 00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:32,340 I mean, look at what they did in Thailand. 476 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:35,290 - [dramatic music playing] - [whistling] 477 00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:41,160 [Simon] the courage to do what he did. 478 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:45,000 He was definitely the right man for that job. 479 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,950 [reporter 9] with the intensifying rescue operation 480 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,700 to free 12 boys from a flooded cave in Northern Thailand. 481 00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:53,410 [reporter 10] more than two weeks ago. 482 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,290 [reporter 11] they are still a long way from safe. 483 00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:59,080 [Richard] That's when I got a phone call from Rick Stanton. 484 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,830 Back in 2007, of course, I had no idea that nearly 11 years later, 485 00:30:04,910 --> 00:30:07,790 I'd be meeting Rick Stanton again at the Thai Cave Rescue. 486 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,700 He had come up with this crazy idea. 487 00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:14,750 Could you sedate these kids or anaesthetise them 488 00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:17,531 to bring them out of the cave so that they wouldn't panic? 489 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:25,450 It's extraordinary, really, that there was ever a situation where you needed 490 00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:30,200 a cave diving anaesthetist, but that's what happened. 491 00:30:30,290 --> 00:30:32,500 [reporter 12] with diving experience 492 00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:33,700 is amongst the Australians… 493 00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:36,700 [reporter 13] Adelaide doctor is at the front line 494 00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:38,040 of the delicate rescue… 495 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,500 Any situation where you are trying to manage someone underwater 496 00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:45,160 who is unconscious, is extremely dangerous. 497 00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:47,056 [Richard] I don't think you need to be an anaesthetist 498 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,160 or a cave diver to realise that they could easily drown inside their mask. 499 00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:53,790 And you wouldn't know about that because they'd be unconscious. 500 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,660 I knew that if I had to go over there, I needed a trusted ally. 501 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,700 We'd been told that these boys didn't even know how to swim. 502 00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:04,200 They were 2.2 kilometres in the cave. 503 00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:09,870 Diving 13 people out of that cave in zero visibility, unconscious, 504 00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:13,830 for three hours, and not one of them having their mask knocked off. 505 00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:17,500 I was sure that if we did this, we'd essentially be euthanising 506 00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:19,120 all of those 13 boys. 507 00:31:19,950 --> 00:31:22,790 [Simon] And what you have to understand about Thailand 508 00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:27,450 is that we view it through a lens where we know the outcome. 509 00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:31,370 It's very, very difficult to insert yourself 510 00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:34,370 into the situation that Harry was in when he contemplated 511 00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:35,910 anaesthetising those children. 512 00:31:36,540 --> 00:31:39,910 They fully expected that some of them would die. 513 00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:45,120 [reporter 14] work out the exact details of the rescue, 514 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,830 the relatives can only watch and wait anxiously… 515 00:31:48,910 --> 00:31:52,500 [Simon] that would be hanging around 516 00:31:52,580 --> 00:31:54,100 Harry's neck for the rest of his life. 517 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:58,080 He would forever have been known as the doctor who killed the children. 518 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,360 [Richard] At the end of the day… 519 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,800 what are you going to do? Are you going to… 520 00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:06,500 give the kids a one in a million chance at coming out alive 521 00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:08,080 and return them to their parents? 522 00:32:08,830 --> 00:32:10,120 We had to give it a try. 523 00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:16,450 [dramatic music playing] 524 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,620 [reporter 15] now that's been coming into us 525 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:26,080 within the last few minutes. 526 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,200 And it's good news. All 12 boys and their soccer coach… 527 00:32:30,290 --> 00:32:32,620 …have just been brought out of the cave… 528 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,290 [crowd cheering] 529 00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:38,580 …remarkable operation. It has never been attempted 530 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:42,870 - by anyone anywhere… - [in Foreign language] 531 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,620 [Simon] What Harry did with those kids in Thailand… 532 00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:52,000 is the gutsiest thing I've ever seen in medicine. 533 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:55,410 - [ambulance siren blaring] - [crowd cheering] 534 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:59,410 [Richard] The feeling was just incredible. I could not believe we'd pulled it off. 535 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:02,290 In that moment I took great pleasure in the thought 536 00:33:02,370 --> 00:33:05,790 that I'll be able to tell both my wife Fiona and my father 537 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,620 that this hobby that I've been so invested in 538 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,660 for all these years had finally paid off. 539 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,870 And no more criticism could be forthcoming. 540 00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:17,290 [uplifting music playing] 541 00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:19,620 - [water rustling] - [birds chirping] 542 00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:23,120 [Richard] when I was with those kids. 543 00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:28,500 When you're a doctor, you look after the patient in front of you. 544 00:33:33,410 --> 00:33:34,830 [indistinct chatter] 545 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,330 [Richard] The ability to stay calm under pressure is definitely an asset. 546 00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:43,250 And it's been an asset for me as a cave diver, as an anaesthetist. 547 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,200 [Fiona] There's not a lot of cave diving accidents. 548 00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:51,830 You die or you don't. 549 00:33:51,910 --> 00:33:55,330 [Craig] I had some friends that have died over the years. 550 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,290 You have to recognise that you're going into a hostile environment. 551 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:01,040 You're on? 552 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:05,200 [Craig] I often lend some thought 553 00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:07,330 to what it's like in those last moments. 554 00:34:07,910 --> 00:34:10,200 [water gurgling] 555 00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:18,620 [Craig] There's no more visceral urge for survival than the urge to breathe. 556 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,160 If you get yourself into trouble and you panic… 557 00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:25,910 you lose the ability to think logically. 558 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,290 But in that moment… 559 00:34:27,370 --> 00:34:30,700 - [water gurgling] - [diver panting] 560 00:34:32,910 --> 00:34:36,750 …your best chance of survival is keeping panic as far away as possible 561 00:34:36,830 --> 00:34:37,910 for as long as possible. 562 00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:43,080 If you panic, then you are going to die. 563 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,080 - [dramatic music playing] - [water gurgling] 564 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,910 [Richard] the Nightmare Crescent… 565 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,450 down to 18 metres. 566 00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:07,160 And I go over the lip of this balcony and I look down 567 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:11,410 into the very, very deep shaft that drops all the way down to 105 metres. 568 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:17,200 As I tilt my head down to look, I suddenly have a mouthful of water 569 00:35:17,660 --> 00:35:20,330 mixed with the CO2 extracting powder. 570 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:23,250 And what we call a caustic cocktail. 571 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:26,200 And that is like sucking on bleach. 572 00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:28,830 - -[button clicking] 573 00:35:29,330 --> 00:35:30,830 …wash my mouth out with water. 574 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:34,290 I'm starting to sink down the shaft as this is happening. 575 00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:35,910 [mumbles] 576 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:41,200 [Richard] the second rebreather was already flooded. 577 00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:44,950 And in panic it's just moments away. 578 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:52,500 And I turn around towards the exit, but the exit is 50 metres from where I am. 579 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,370 So there's this moment where you know in the next five seconds 580 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:57,660 you have to find a solution. 581 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,840 And no one can help you in that situation. 582 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:02,540 Having a buddy right next to you, under water, 583 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,830 they can't do anything for you. 584 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:07,950 [water gurgling] 585 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,750 [Richard] for my final back up, 586 00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:12,830 which is a normal scuba regulator. 587 00:36:12,910 --> 00:36:16,000 [water bubbling] 588 00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:18,750 [Richard] that it's working. 589 00:36:26,290 --> 00:36:30,330 [engine whirring] 590 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:44,670 - [man 5] Welcome back. - [Richard] Thank you. 591 00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:49,040 - [man 5] A good dive? - Average. 592 00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:57,120 [soft music playing] 593 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,870 I think I've mentioned, you know, I just need a certain number 594 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:09,750 of perfect dives done before I'm happy to do the exploratory dive. 595 00:37:09,830 --> 00:37:15,000 And that has remained elusive. I have not had one single dive yet 596 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,290 that I've been a 100% happy. 597 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,120 [Ken] puts you in a position 598 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,360 where you're less capable of handling the next problem. 599 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,380 Even though you may not realise that you're getting a little bit rattled. 600 00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:26,330 And so if three things go wrong… 601 00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:28,700 time to go home and come back another day. 602 00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:31,290 No problems for me. It's really good. 603 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:35,370 That seems to be the recurring theme of this trip, really 604 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:38,330 [man 5] It does. Why is that? 605 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:41,250 Oh, Harry doesn't look after his shit properly. 606 00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:42,870 That's why. 607 00:37:43,950 --> 00:37:45,700 Just needs to take more care. 608 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,700 - [water rustling] - [birds chirping] 609 00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:50,690 [Richard] I'm quite a careful chap. 610 00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:55,620 But you're not diligent like me, are you? 611 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,120 [Richard] Well, I've even got a checklist, Craig. 612 00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:01,370 Doesn't work if you don't look at it, Harry. 613 00:38:01,450 --> 00:38:04,040 [Richard] I played with this hose. I took that hose on and off. 614 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,726 [Big Dave] It will be coming in there, guarantee. 615 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:07,676 [Richard] Oh, come on. You can't get water in there. 616 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,981 - Are you serious? - [Big Dave] Yeah, it's be a lot of work. 617 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,160 - It'll be coming in there. Yeah. - [Richard] You sure? 618 00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:14,380 [Big Dave] 100%, that's where it's coming in. 619 00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:18,580 Because I've had split mouthpieces, and that is exactly what happens. 620 00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:20,220 [Craig] Don't you listen to him, Harry. 621 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,940 - Fucking lightweight. - [Richard] What do you think it is? 622 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:24,250 Something else. 623 00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:30,160 [dramatic music playing] 624 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,620 - [Craig] Welcome back. - Thank you. 625 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,830 Everything seems to work today. 626 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,660 I think Dave Hurst might just be a genius. 627 00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:46,830 [Craig] Dave Hurst might be a genius. Why? 628 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,200 [Richard] A genius bloke. 629 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,080 Yeah, but why? 630 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:55,160 For diagnosing the leak. 631 00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:58,870 - [Craig] What leak? - In my rear breather. 632 00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:00,190 [Craig] Oh, that's what it was? 633 00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:02,000 Well it seems to be fixed. 634 00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:09,580 [man 6] So no problems? 635 00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:13,910 Oh a few little problems. 636 00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:15,830 I've got a sticky oxygen valve 637 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:18,750 and my heating in the suit stopped working. 638 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:21,000 So I got a bit cold. 639 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000 It's all wet. 640 00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:27,410 [Richard] a lot more little equipment failures 641 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,080 than we normally do. 642 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:33,080 Craig is getting dry suit leaks on every dive, 643 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080 - -[indistinct chatter] 644 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,290 [Richard] about holding things up 645 00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:40,790 with my rebreather problems, but now… 646 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:45,080 Craig has fallen behind. He's having problems with his suit, 647 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,950 and he has not tested that extra hydrogen cylinder set up at all. 648 00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:54,200 You would want to see completion of two or three dives 649 00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:58,200 with no dry suit leaks before the big dive can go ahead. 650 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,070 [Craig] Does it look like we're having quite a good time? 651 00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:03,096 - [Richard] I can't tell yet. - What did you say? 652 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,790 - [Richard] I can't tell. - Neither can we. 653 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:06,790 - [air hissing] - [cylinder clattering] 654 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,290 [Craig] I can't keep getting wet like this. This is… 655 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:15,700 tolerable for these dives, but not for the big dive. 656 00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:18,540 You really do wonder why you're doing this. 657 00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:20,346 Sometimes when you're going through this you think, 658 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:23,700 "I could just be diving a nice tropical reef now". 659 00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:26,040 - See you all tomorrow. - [indistinct chatter] 660 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,620 - [dramatic music playing] - [water gurgling] 661 00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:35,950 [indistinct chatter] 662 00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:45,450 - [man 5] How'd you go, Harry? Good dive. - Yeah, it was fine. No dramas. 663 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,370 [man 5] That's excellent news. 664 00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:50,620 Not sure my friend Craig would say the same. 665 00:40:51,250 --> 00:40:52,290 - [man 5] Oh, really? - Yeah. 666 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:55,910 - Got some technical problems. - [man 5] Oh, man. 667 00:40:56,330 --> 00:40:57,330 Yeah. 668 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,080 - [man 5] Not what we want. - It's not good for. 669 00:41:01,370 --> 00:41:04,700 Going to put this dive in jeopardy with all these issues. 670 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,290 Get one bloke fixed… 671 00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:09,250 another bloke… 672 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:10,750 falls apart. 673 00:41:12,330 --> 00:41:14,950 [Craig] technical diving is a little bit better 674 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,200 in the retelling than in the actual doing it. 675 00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:25,580 [birds chirping] 676 00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:27,700 [Ken] Harry and Craig are definitely under pressure. 677 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,750 Maybe they should consider not diving. 678 00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:39,290 But the pressure on them, of course, is that they've come all this way, 679 00:41:39,370 --> 00:41:40,450 they've fed all this money. 680 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:43,250 They've brought all these people out here to help them. 681 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:48,450 Seventeen hours until we're meant to leave on the dive. 682 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,540 Stuff still to do. 683 00:41:56,750 --> 00:42:00,000 - I need a cup of hot water. - [man 5] Are problems still arising? 684 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,450 Problems still arising. 685 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,790 - [dramatic music playing] - [birds chirping] 686 00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:09,620 [Craig] they wear you down psychologically. 687 00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:15,870 Everybody's put so much effort into being here. 688 00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:24,290 The whole trip, our whole purpose has been leading towards this one day. 689 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,000 And I can't escape the feeling that I'm letting everybody down. 690 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:36,160 You've got to have a super positive attitude 691 00:42:36,250 --> 00:42:38,830 if you're going to undertake these dives. 692 00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:44,750 You can't do a dive to that depth unless you're in the right headspace. 693 00:42:50,540 --> 00:42:51,700 So tomorrow… 694 00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:55,000 - What are you thinking? - Don't fucking interrupt. 695 00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,830 - Now? - Do not interrupt. 696 00:42:58,540 --> 00:42:59,676 - What you're about to say? - Yes. 697 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:00,700 [Richard] No, okay, go. 698 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:02,500 So… 699 00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:06,250 firstly… 700 00:43:10,370 --> 00:43:14,000 if I was looking at somebody else that had an accident… 701 00:43:14,830 --> 00:43:18,620 and in the lead up to the dive, that had all the problems… 702 00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:21,040 and then, you know, 703 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,040 I don't think I'm in a tip-top frame of mind about it. 704 00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:26,620 It's just… 705 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,200 And, you know, I feel like I have… 706 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,290 come here half-assed… 707 00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:38,120 not properly prepared. 708 00:43:38,830 --> 00:43:41,500 I could make all the excuses about being too busy, 709 00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:46,080 you know, about all that shit. But it hasn't been enough of a priority. 710 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:50,080 The gear wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I haven't been diving. 711 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,160 [Richard] Yep. 712 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:54,580 I've just fucked it up and… 713 00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:02,700 But anyway, as far as diving tomorrow… 714 00:44:03,330 --> 00:44:04,330 I don't know. I… 715 00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:12,950 Being as objective as I can… 716 00:44:14,830 --> 00:44:17,160 that leads to the conclusion that I shouldn't do the dive. 717 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:19,660 However… 718 00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:22,700 the problem is that… 719 00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:26,040 if I don't give it a crack, I will feel like I've let… 720 00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:28,040 everyone down. 721 00:44:29,370 --> 00:44:30,370 Really. 722 00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:34,790 So I'm not quite sure what my bottom line is. 723 00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:39,620 Well my perspective is basically all the same things you've just said. 724 00:44:42,290 --> 00:44:45,250 So just speaking about what's been going on with you, you just… 725 00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:50,290 I don't think you've done the dive, that final dive or two that have all… 726 00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:52,550 It's all come together and it's all worked. 727 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,160 So I agree. 728 00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:57,540 I don't think it's the right time. 729 00:44:57,620 --> 00:45:00,200 - [dramatic music playing] - [birds chirping] 730 00:45:00,290 --> 00:45:02,120 [Richard] the time underwater. 731 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,830 He hasn't tested the hydrogen equipment at all. 732 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,120 And he just is not ready to do this dive. 733 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,700 For the first time that I've heard, 734 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:13,950 he has actually said he's not prepared to proceed with it. 735 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,000 [dramatic music playing] 736 00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:21,370 [Richard] an accident by him 737 00:45:21,450 --> 00:45:24,500 on my conscience because this is my idea. 738 00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:29,370 There are some real risks here that we haven't faced before. 739 00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:32,750 And so if he's not a 100% in the right headspace to do it… 740 00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:36,370 then I'm happier that he's stopped. 741 00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:38,410 Well, Smithers… 742 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,120 it's another fine mess. 743 00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:42,750 - Does that tank need to come out? - [indistinct chatter] 744 00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:46,450 [Richard] am I going to do a solo dive without him? 745 00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:48,330 [man 5] Do you have the initial gut instinct 746 00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:50,330 of whether you would go solo or not? 747 00:45:53,410 --> 00:45:55,040 I need to think about it. Yeah. 748 00:45:56,450 --> 00:46:00,200 I mean, I don't mind diving by myself, but I just need to really run through 749 00:46:00,290 --> 00:46:03,370 the whole dive in my mind and see if there's any scenarios where… 750 00:46:04,540 --> 00:46:07,660 that makes it a really bad idea. And I'll talk to these guys. 751 00:46:09,410 --> 00:46:10,250 [man 5] Big decision. 752 00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:12,120 It is a big decision. It is a big decision. 753 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,160 Risk-taking and challenging myself with goals. 754 00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:23,080 It's a dangerous game to play because you're never satisfied. 755 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:35,370 What is it that makes me continue with this selfish pursuit 756 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:38,080 when I know what the cost is… 757 00:46:38,580 --> 00:46:40,540 to my wife in particular? 758 00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:49,000 [Fiona] They should know when enough's enough. 759 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,080 [indistinct chatter] 760 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:52,910 [Fiona] 761 00:46:53,830 --> 00:46:58,330 [dramatic music playing] 762 00:47:00,790 --> 00:47:02,700 [Richard] I've got the answer for that. 763 00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:06,250 It's something deep inside me that I can't… 764 00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:11,370 It's like an addiction, I guess. You know, you can be logical about it, 765 00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:15,660 but that's different to actually stopping and walking away from it. 766 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:17,870 I've just got a couple more boxes to tick. 767 00:47:21,830 --> 00:47:24,620 [Fiona] I feel a lot better knowing Simon's with them. 768 00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:26,950 He's sensible. 769 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,290 He knows his stuff. 770 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,750 He's kind. Harry respects him. 771 00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:36,540 Harry might listen to him. 772 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:42,330 I try not to let… 773 00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:46,540 my mind run away with me. 774 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,080 But if… 775 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,830 if I was to get a phone call… [sobs] 776 00:47:55,870 --> 00:47:57,580 …it might as well be from Simon. 777 00:48:00,870 --> 00:48:04,160 [Richard] Either I do this dive by myself… 778 00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:06,330 or we call the whole thing off. 779 00:48:06,910 --> 00:48:13,870 - [animal howling] - [dramatic music playing] 780 00:48:14,370 --> 00:48:16,790 [reporter 16] now that's been coming into us 781 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:19,330 - -[reporter 17] 782 00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:23,750 - -[reporter 18] 783 00:48:23,830 --> 00:48:27,410 - [indistinct chatter] - [ambulance siren blaring] 784 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:28,870 [Richard] 785 00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:31,620 finally we're coming out into the moonlight. 786 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,450 - [camera shutter clicking] - [Richard] This enormous crowd, 787 00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:37,750 thousands of people just cheering and clapping. 788 00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:39,870 It was the most joyous event. 789 00:48:40,370 --> 00:48:42,000 And, I give Fiona a call. 790 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,410 I spoke for ten minutes without barely drawing a breath. 791 00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:47,290 And finally there's this pause. 792 00:48:47,790 --> 00:48:52,000 [dramatic music playing] 793 00:48:53,370 --> 00:48:56,040 [Richard] "I've got something terrible to tell you". 794 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,790 "Your dad's just died". 795 00:48:58,750 --> 00:49:01,660 Basically just keeled over dead that very afternoon, 796 00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:04,950 probably about the same time as the last boy came out of that cave. 797 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,370 - [ambulance siren blaring] - And I just sobbed. 798 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,660 [sombre music playing] 799 00:49:10,750 --> 00:49:13,870 [Richard] Absolutely adored him. He was a bit of a hero to me. 800 00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:20,410 One person I would have really loved to tell about this adventure 801 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:22,580 was my father and that wasn't going to be possible. 802 00:49:24,620 --> 00:49:28,000 And so it was a confronting time coming back from Thailand 803 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,120 to face all this scrutiny when I just wanted to be with my family. 804 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,660 Dr Harris is an extraordinary Australian 805 00:49:34,750 --> 00:49:38,080 and he has certainly made a big difference to the rescue effort. 806 00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:41,330 [Richard] on the Nullarbor for a couple of weeks, 807 00:49:41,410 --> 00:49:44,160 assuming that by the time we got back it would all have died down. 808 00:49:44,250 --> 00:49:45,500 Dr Harris there? 809 00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:46,950 [Richard] it had only got worse. 810 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,540 Those kids were in great hands. 811 00:49:48,620 --> 00:49:51,660 [Richard] for a few weeks in Canada, 812 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:54,790 - came back, it was worse again. - He should be Australian of the Year. 813 00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:57,620 [Richard] to continue our strategy 814 00:49:57,700 --> 00:49:58,620 of hiding underground. 815 00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:01,250 - Welcome Dr Richard Harris. - [audience applauding] 816 00:50:01,330 --> 00:50:03,516 There wouldn't be an Australian amongst us who wouldn't agree. 817 00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:06,330 They are so well deserving. Congratulations Dr Richard Harris 818 00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:07,290 and Dr Craig Tellen. 819 00:50:07,370 --> 00:50:10,790 I'm not quite sure why the spotlight has shone on us a pair… 820 00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:14,290 I was reluctant to accept that we were heroes 821 00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:18,540 or that we'd done something brave or courageous in this situation. 822 00:50:18,620 --> 00:50:21,160 - I just didn't feel like I deserved it. - [audience clapping] 823 00:50:21,250 --> 00:50:24,790 [Richard] well obviously anxiety is not an issue 824 00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:25,750 for that guy. 825 00:50:25,830 --> 00:50:28,500 But I do suffer some anxiety, proper anxiety 826 00:50:28,580 --> 00:50:30,660 and I've never really spoken about that to be honest. 827 00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:34,250 I've never felt very confident as a person. 828 00:50:34,750 --> 00:50:37,080 [crickets chirping] 829 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,160 [Richard] I put my head under water, 830 00:50:40,250 --> 00:50:42,790 there's none of that self-doubt, there's none of that anxiety. 831 00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:47,200 Everything feels much more under control in the caves. 832 00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:50,176 [people chatting, crickets chirping] 833 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,200 [man 5] Are you joking? 834 00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:53,250 He's going to go. 835 00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:57,660 [dramatic music playing] 836 00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:59,830 [speaking indistinctly] 837 00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:05,660 [speaking indistinctly] 838 00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:09,110 - Do you want the glasses on? - [Richard] Yeah, glasses on. 839 00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:19,410 [Ken] worried about how Harry will go 840 00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:25,080 when he gets down there to 200 metres and suddenly changes the valve, 841 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040 stops breathing a helium mixture and starts breathing a hydrogen mixture. 842 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,790 [Simon] I've often thought to myself… 843 00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:36,056 if I could wave a magic wand and stop Harry from doing this, 844 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,080 I probably would. 845 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,540 Are we just pushing our luck? 846 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,830 Are we just going to ride this until something bad happens? 847 00:51:44,450 --> 00:51:45,450 All right, Kenny? 848 00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:46,950 Ken? 849 00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:51,410 [Richard] when I'm hitting the water. 850 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,790 - You good today? - [Craig] Well done, pumps the right side. 851 00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:58,700 [Richard] 852 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,650 [Craig] Maybe a little bit tighter. 853 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,660 Craig, are you going to take the cylinders all attached today? 854 00:52:06,830 --> 00:52:09,200 - [Craig] Sorry? - You'll take the cylinders all attached? 855 00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:21,290 I'll just be down at the six metres for a second, then I'll be off. 856 00:52:22,580 --> 00:52:23,500 Have a good day. 857 00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:26,040 - [Simon] Have fun. - Try not to worry, Simon. 858 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,540 [all laughing] 859 00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:37,160 [dramatic music playing] 860 00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:30,540 So… 861 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:32,910 [man 5] So, what's the window where we're kind of… 862 00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:36,660 - estimating to hear the buzzer? - Seventy to 100 minutes. 863 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,290 - Yeah. - [indistinct chatter] 864 00:53:39,370 --> 00:53:44,410 Last time it was 60 minutes, but that was a shallower dive, obviously. 865 00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:45,950 - [man 5] Hey? - [Craig] Got lights. 866 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,160 [man 5] We've got lights. 867 00:53:47,790 --> 00:53:49,000 [Simon] That's unbelievable. 868 00:53:59,910 --> 00:54:02,910 [man 5] So, he's been down for about 15 or so minutes yeah? 869 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,120 He's been down 20, just over 21 minutes, 23 seconds. 870 00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:15,790 Well, just when you thought you'd seen it all… 871 00:54:16,450 --> 00:54:18,250 my primary handset flooded. 872 00:54:19,540 --> 00:54:20,540 No. 873 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,120 I think I'll give up. 874 00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:31,250 [dramatic music playing] 875 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,040 Anyway… 876 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,410 I don't think I've got any more solutions for this dive. 877 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,580 I've never seen that before. 878 00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:02,000 Well, whatever happens, you're going to need 879 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,910 - to come and get out of that suit and… - I know. 880 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,500 [Richard] We've failed to test the hydrogen. 881 00:55:09,580 --> 00:55:13,000 We've failed to explore the cave. I've failed to dive with my mate Craig. 882 00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:17,450 We've put aside three whole weeks for this expedition, 883 00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:21,540 longer than we've ever been there before, and we have achieved absolutely nothing. 884 00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:23,830 Well, we're about as useful as each other, Harris. 885 00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:24,790 Yes. 886 00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:27,290 I'm going to go home to tell Fiona that 887 00:55:27,370 --> 00:55:29,370 not only have I buggered off for three weeks 888 00:55:29,450 --> 00:55:32,620 and put her through all this stress, but I've got nothing to show for it. 889 00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:34,830 So I feel like I've let her down as well. 890 00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:37,500 [indistinct chatter] 891 00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:53,000 Yeah, starting to feel not very sensible now. 892 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,660 [dramatic music playing] 893 00:55:56,830 --> 00:55:59,200 Just so fucked off right now. 894 00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:04,120 Which is also not a great way to go diving. 895 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:06,700 Yeah. 896 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:14,830 [Richard] I'm all out of options. 897 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,160 Just chill for five minutes, Harry. 898 00:56:36,250 --> 00:56:39,790 And suddenly Craig's there next to me, and he's piping up, saying… 899 00:56:40,660 --> 00:56:46,080 "Maybe tomorrow we could have another go, and maybe I can come with you this time". 900 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,750 [Craig] 901 00:56:50,250 --> 00:56:51,370 But I think… 902 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,200 the situation that applied to you yesterday 903 00:56:54,290 --> 00:56:56,370 really still applies to you today, doesn't it, Craig? 904 00:56:57,790 --> 00:56:58,790 You still haven't… 905 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,250 [Craig] 906 00:57:02,330 --> 00:57:04,830 [all laughing] 907 00:57:05,620 --> 00:57:08,040 My suit and my heating are fine now, I know that. 908 00:57:11,580 --> 00:57:13,260 We've got a little bit of work to do, but… 909 00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:15,370 I could do it. 910 00:57:15,870 --> 00:57:19,330 And that's the moment when I just… Everything seemed to change. 911 00:57:19,410 --> 00:57:21,750 [soft music playing] 912 00:57:21,830 --> 00:57:24,370 [Richard] I can get so fixated on my own goals. 913 00:57:25,660 --> 00:57:27,700 Sometimes I forget that I'm part of a team. 914 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:33,870 It's a sublime feeling to have these good friends around you 915 00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:35,540 who just want to help you succeed. 916 00:57:36,910 --> 00:57:39,620 [Craig] in how quickly 917 00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:43,160 the dynamics of the team can change. 918 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200 [Richard] 919 00:57:48,450 --> 00:57:51,000 and Craig is going to be like a control. 920 00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:55,410 [Craig] and observer for Harry. 921 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,040 [Ken] 922 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,200 because they'll be back diving as a buddy pair. 923 00:58:00,370 --> 00:58:03,830 And if he should explode, then I'll just pick up as many pieces 924 00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:05,750 as I can to bring them back home. 925 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,790 [birds chirping] 926 00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:29,450 [Richard] And we're up at 5:00 am again today, 927 00:58:29,540 --> 00:58:32,200 and I'm actually feeling much more relaxed 928 00:58:32,290 --> 00:58:35,120 than I was when I was doing this dive by myself. 929 00:58:37,250 --> 00:58:41,540 - [dramatic music] - [indistinct chatter] 930 00:58:45,450 --> 00:58:48,450 [Richard] I don't want to look anyone in the eye. 931 00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:51,700 I just want to be alone with my thoughts. 932 00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:03,290 [Simon] is that they will not push 933 00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:08,200 more than 20 metres deeper than they went last time. 934 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,250 So 230 metres will be the deepest depth. 935 00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:29,200 [Craig] the little issues that have been occurring 936 00:59:29,290 --> 00:59:30,370 during the expedition. 937 00:59:30,910 --> 00:59:35,580 And my fear is that there will be some unanticipated complication. 938 00:59:37,580 --> 00:59:42,660 My other fear is what's going to happen when Harry goes on hydrogen at 200 metres. 939 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,870 The last thing we want is for Harry to have lung complications 940 00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:51,910 when he's got a 13-hour decompression ahead of him. 941 00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:55,000 If something like that were to happen, of course… 942 00:59:55,790 --> 00:59:57,620 it would likely be fatal. 943 00:59:58,950 --> 01:00:00,540 [indistinct chatter] 944 01:00:01,750 --> 01:00:02,830 You want this on? 945 01:00:02,910 --> 01:00:04,500 Yeah, everything on, all the way. 946 01:00:12,620 --> 01:00:18,500 [dramatic music playing] 947 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,080 [man 7] anything goes wrong. 948 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,620 There's no possible chance of a rescue. 949 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:18,000 They have both said that they never want anyone to risk their life to… 950 01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:19,950 get their body back. 951 01:04:22,790 --> 01:04:26,450 [Simon] 952 01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:32,200 it's massive responsibility with no options for intervention. 953 01:04:32,290 --> 01:04:34,830 [Ken] So they'll be halfway down over halfway down now? 954 01:04:34,910 --> 01:04:38,540 - Over half… 18 minutes, 22 seconds. So… - [Ken] Okay. 955 01:04:39,410 --> 01:04:43,540 …they'll be not far off Harry going on hydrogen now. 956 01:04:44,410 --> 01:04:48,330 [dramatic music playing] 957 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,620 [Richard] past 180 metres, 958 01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:00,950 I start to become aware of the tremor that I normally get. 959 01:05:07,370 --> 01:05:08,620 We get to 200 metres. 960 01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,660 This is it. This is the moment of truth. 961 01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:19,290 I reach down to change the switch and my hands are shaking. 962 01:05:22,580 --> 01:05:24,120 I turn the switch to hydrogen. 963 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,160 Those first few cautious sips on the hydrogen… 964 01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:40,700 are a pretty intimidating moment, I have to admit. 965 01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:44,700 [dramatic music playing] 966 01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:46,750 [Richard] 967 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,330 I haven't blown up, I haven't died. 968 01:05:50,660 --> 01:05:53,580 So I give Craig the okay sign, off we go. 969 01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:21,910 And I'm watching Craig 970 01:06:22,330 --> 01:06:27,500 with real interest as he ties off the final tie off at 230 metres. 971 01:06:28,330 --> 01:06:31,160 And I'm looking at his hands and they're just trembling a little bit. 972 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:35,580 And I remember holding up my own hands and going… 973 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:39,200 there's no shaking whatsoever, I'm cured. 974 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,250 I was bloody right, this is working 975 01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:44,250 and it's doing everything it's supposed to. 976 01:06:45,290 --> 01:06:49,750 I just felt so good and this hydrogen was working so well, 977 01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:53,870 I just had a sense that we could have gone to an extreme depth 978 01:06:53,950 --> 01:06:55,040 without any problems. 979 01:06:59,370 --> 01:07:03,160 I look at Craig, he looks at me and we just know what we're thinking. 980 01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:09,330 The temptation to go deeper at this point is overwhelming. 981 01:07:09,950 --> 01:07:13,080 But we've got at least 12 hours of decompression ahead of us. 982 01:07:13,950 --> 01:07:17,660 We've made a clear promise to the team on top 983 01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:19,750 that we will only go to 230 metres. 984 01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:23,830 And so I say Craig, we've got to go. 985 01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,830 I'm already thinking about coming back the following year, 986 01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:34,700 especially now I've got this new secret weapon. 987 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,620 At this point everything has gone exactly according to plan. 988 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,750 [birds chirping] 989 01:07:52,790 --> 01:07:56,830 [machine beeping] 990 01:08:00,330 --> 01:08:03,830 Okay, so that was 37 minutes… 991 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,580 pretty much early… 992 01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:12,160 earlier than we thought, yeah, okay. 993 01:08:12,830 --> 01:08:17,250 So the signal is ambiguous, it's something in between the signal 994 01:08:17,330 --> 01:08:21,330 that everything's okay and that they require assistance. 995 01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:25,290 - So that was 100 metres though? Yeah. - [Ken] That was definitely 100 metres. 996 01:08:25,370 --> 01:08:28,870 We're just trying to estimate when the diver would be back at 40 metres, 997 01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:31,200 which could be several hours without knowing anything. 998 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,790 And then hopefully send a diver down to 40 metres, hoping that 999 01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:36,700 they find someone in the habitat. 1000 01:08:36,790 --> 01:08:39,000 - [indistinct chatter] - Big Dave. 1001 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,830 Given the ambiguity in that signal, 1002 01:08:45,290 --> 01:08:47,120 and it being slightly early… 1003 01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:52,000 why don't, just in case they give us another signal 1004 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,870 that suggests they need assistance at 60, why don't you just start dressing in? 1005 01:08:55,950 --> 01:08:57,120 I know it's a bit of a hassle 1006 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,520 - for you, but I… - [Big Dave] Yeah. 1007 01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:02,160 …I think they were supposed to give two short pushes in a long, 1008 01:09:02,250 --> 01:09:04,540 and it was more like three short pushes. 1009 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,370 [machine beeping] 1010 01:09:13,250 --> 01:09:16,250 Is someone over there helping Big Dave? 1011 01:09:16,330 --> 01:09:17,410 - [man 8] Yeah. Yeah. - Yeah. 1012 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,080 Can you just let me know when he hits the water? 1013 01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:24,870 We're getting signals that we weren't anticipating 1014 01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:29,410 that don't marry up with the very precise plans for signals 1015 01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:31,620 and responses to those signals. 1016 01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:35,120 [machine beeping] 1017 01:09:35,750 --> 01:09:36,750 That's good. 1018 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,290 [Simon] to see what's going on. 1019 01:09:46,580 --> 01:09:53,500 - [indistinct chatter] - [machine beeping] 1020 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,886 - [Ken] What does that mean? - [Simon] I don't know. 1021 01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:58,096 [Ken] Does that mean that Dave's transferred into the habitat? 1022 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,120 No. 1023 01:10:00,910 --> 01:10:02,510 I think we better dress someone else in. 1024 01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:05,330 - So, Dave, we just got a signal… - [Little Dave] Yeah, yeah. 1025 01:10:05,410 --> 01:10:08,000 - …which we weren't expecting. - [Little Dave] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1026 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,540 It sounded almost, it didn't, like, it was three buzzes, 1027 01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:14,370 and it was a sort of a longish, so a shortish and a long, 1028 01:10:14,450 --> 01:10:16,660 - so it didn't sound purposive. - Yeah, yeah. 1029 01:10:16,750 --> 01:10:18,136 But I think we should dress you in. 1030 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,620 [Little Dave] We're trying to decipher 1031 01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:25,790 whether there's a problem with the comms system and a shorting, 1032 01:10:25,870 --> 01:10:29,790 or whether the guys are trying to send us a continuous signal, 1033 01:10:29,870 --> 01:10:35,910 - which would mean come and help us out. - [machine beeping] 1034 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:46,990 - He's got a triton with him. - A triton with him. Yeah. 1035 01:10:48,410 --> 01:10:50,870 - Craig's triton is flooded. - [Simon] Yeah. 1036 01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:53,000 Harry's is working? 1037 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,000 - [Big Dave] Harry's is working. - [Simon] Okay. 1038 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,250 So they've made it up to the 28-meter habitat, 1039 01:10:57,620 --> 01:11:01,200 but Craig's transport rebreather has failed, has flooded, 1040 01:11:01,290 --> 01:11:03,870 and he's using open-circuit gas. 1041 01:11:04,290 --> 01:11:05,160 That's a problem. 1042 01:11:05,250 --> 01:11:07,000 [dramatic music playing] 1043 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,080 [Richard] and we are effectively trapped. 1044 01:11:10,580 --> 01:11:13,200 Now, we've got three hours of decompression ahead of us 1045 01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:14,290 in this habitat… 1046 01:11:15,950 --> 01:11:18,080 and Craig's got nothing to breathe. 1047 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:30,330 [Little Dave] getting them some gas down there. 1048 01:11:30,410 --> 01:11:32,330 - -[Simon] There's air in there… 1049 01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:36,450 but they'll get CO2, so they can't breathe it for too long. 1050 01:11:36,540 --> 01:11:39,040 Yeah, so we'll get you in, take two air cylinders down, 1051 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,200 but what they may want us to do is take some nitrops down. 1052 01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:47,330 - [water splashing] - [dramatic music playing] 1053 01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:52,000 [Little Dave] 1054 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,830 It's really tight in these two bottom habitats, 1055 01:11:54,910 --> 01:11:58,200 so I can't really get my head in there to be able to talk to them. 1056 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,750 So I've passed them up the cylinder. 1057 01:12:07,700 --> 01:12:09,330 They don't have a lot of gas down there. 1058 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,580 A cylinder at that depth will probably only last 20 minutes tops. 1059 01:12:20,580 --> 01:12:24,250 I think the thing to do is to get another 30 mix… 1060 01:12:24,330 --> 01:12:26,410 - [John] Yep. - …32, and take it down 1061 01:12:26,500 --> 01:12:28,040 and get rid of that 40 mix. 1062 01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:33,580 We need to mix more open-circuit gas and deliver it to them quickly. 1063 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,160 - [machine beeping] - We're getting some very confusing stuff 1064 01:12:38,250 --> 01:12:42,870 from the buzzer, and so it's making it very difficult to coordinate. 1065 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,330 Luke is working really hard to try and generate 1066 01:12:47,410 --> 01:12:49,870 precisely mixed gas very quickly. 1067 01:12:49,950 --> 01:12:52,870 That's an environment where mistakes can easily be made. 1068 01:12:53,950 --> 01:12:55,040 [Richard] Right, coming up. 1069 01:13:03,580 --> 01:13:07,410 - One more nitrops. Okay, well… - Bloody hell. 1070 01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:08,330 They're going through it. 1071 01:13:08,410 --> 01:13:12,910 There's a lot of time pressure. I'm finding that incredibly stressful. 1072 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,410 We might have to move the whole roster and click around. 1073 01:13:19,870 --> 01:13:23,160 [John] Take it with you and clip it on at around 20 metres or something… 1074 01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:26,200 Well they won't know it's there, so it's no frickin' use. 1075 01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:50,500 [Richard] to do some soul-searching and wonder, 1076 01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:52,200 "What am I doing down here"? 1077 01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:55,620 "What am I looking for in this cave"? 1078 01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:06,830 It occurs to me the strong parallel 1079 01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:09,580 between us and those boys in the cave in Thailand, 1080 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,870 completely trapped and reliant on other people for our survival. 1081 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,790 [dramatic music playing] 1082 01:14:18,290 --> 01:14:21,290 [Richard] What was it about those kids that enabled them 1083 01:14:21,370 --> 01:14:25,620 to conduct themselves with such incredible dignity and resilience? 1084 01:14:26,330 --> 01:14:28,500 They were extraordinary, and that's the thing 1085 01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:30,120 that sticks with me from that rescue, 1086 01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:34,080 and that's the thing that I think about a lot in my life. 1087 01:14:36,450 --> 01:14:37,790 In that moment, I thought… 1088 01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:41,700 "Maybe I can be proud of what I achieved in Thailand, 1089 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,910 and maybe I deserve to give myself a bit of a break". And… 1090 01:14:52,370 --> 01:14:53,500 I've just done… 1091 01:14:54,540 --> 01:14:58,160 probably the most significant dive I'm ever going to do. 1092 01:14:59,290 --> 01:15:03,160 This is a thing that I can be truly, truly proud of… 1093 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,790 And maybe that's enough. 1094 01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:12,370 [dramatic music playing] 1095 01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:47,926 [Simon] Twenty minutes later than they said it was going to be 1096 01:15:47,950 --> 01:15:50,056 - just an hour ago. So… - [Ken] Yeah. Yeah, just an hour ago. 1097 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,950 [radio static] 1098 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000 [Simon] Anyone in the habitat? Can you hear me? 1099 01:15:57,450 --> 01:16:01,160 [radio static] 1100 01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:17,200 - [Simon] Craig, can you hear me? - [radio static] 1101 01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:43,290 Hey everybody! Welcome to the 16 meter habitat. 1102 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,950 - We're back again, aren't we Craig? - Ah, we are Harry. 1103 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,700 [Richard] 1104 01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:54,660 They're going to shit on like this for quite a long time. 1105 01:16:54,750 --> 01:16:56,200 [Ken] Yeah? 1106 01:16:56,290 --> 01:16:59,290 [chatter over radio] of disasters. 1107 01:16:59,370 --> 01:17:03,200 We've just have one problem after another, after another. 1108 01:17:03,290 --> 01:17:06,040 I wouldn't describe this particular dive as clockwork, 1109 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,450 but we got there in the end. 1110 01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:11,410 With them in the 16-meter habitat, 1111 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:14,870 talking on the intercom, that's a massive relief. 1112 01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:17,620 The 16-meter habitat has got breathable gas. 1113 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:21,040 It's got a CO2 scrubber. We know they're safe. 1114 01:17:21,620 --> 01:17:24,040 [Richard] And for the first time, we feel like, 1115 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,540 actually, we're going to make it. 1116 01:17:25,620 --> 01:17:29,500 The euphoria that surrounds the success of the mission is really sinking in. 1117 01:17:29,830 --> 01:17:33,620 It's also this kind of feeling of life and being alive, 1118 01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:36,580 having looked a bit of danger in the eye and come through it. 1119 01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:42,290 So as soon as you... when you go off comms, just let us know, and we'll de-camp 1120 01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:44,790 - and go around to the pond. - [soft music playing] 1121 01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:46,450 [Richard] 1122 01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:49,080 Okay, see you soon. 1123 01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:05,910 As they're arriving at the surface, I'm thinking about how 1124 01:18:06,910 --> 01:18:08,830 this is really going to make a mark. 1125 01:18:09,580 --> 01:18:14,370 This is something that the diving world is going to sit up and take notice of. 1126 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,540 We have come through more adversity on this particular expedition 1127 01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:24,200 than we ever did before. 1128 01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:36,160 We've shown the way. We've shown it can be done. 1129 01:18:40,410 --> 01:18:43,200 [Little Dave] when the guys have communicated 1130 01:18:43,290 --> 01:18:46,080 that they're going to come out of the final habitat. 1131 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,040 You see those lights. 1132 01:18:56,580 --> 01:19:01,870 [soft music playing] 1133 01:19:07,580 --> 01:19:09,620 [Richard] the ring of faces 1134 01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:11,410 around the entrance pool. 1135 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,250 As much as you've been praying for this moment, 1136 01:19:14,620 --> 01:19:16,540 suddenly you don't actually want to leave. 1137 01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:21,790 This amazing experience that you've just shared with the cave 1138 01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:23,790 and with your mate and with the team above, 1139 01:19:23,870 --> 01:19:25,580 it's all going to come to an end. 1140 01:19:26,450 --> 01:19:28,500 You just think, oh, just keep my head under it 1141 01:19:28,580 --> 01:19:31,620 just for another minute, just to... I'm not quite ready to see them. 1142 01:19:38,500 --> 01:19:42,040 After all these years of setting myself targets, 1143 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,330 this dive feels like… 1144 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,160 I've achieved what I set out to achieve all those years ago… 1145 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,500 when I didn't feel like I fitted in. 1146 01:19:54,250 --> 01:19:59,410 [soft music playing] 1147 01:20:01,330 --> 01:20:06,080 [crowd applauding, cheering] 1148 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:15,040 [Richard] this communal sense of achievement 1149 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,500 that we have done something really worthwhile. 1150 01:20:19,790 --> 01:20:21,750 Everyone's safe. No one's died. 1151 01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:25,040 We didn't kill Ken. 1152 01:20:26,250 --> 01:20:29,000 Very hard-won effort, but we made it. 1153 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,660 [Craig] Good stuff, Simon, well done. 1154 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,870 [indistinct chatter] 1155 01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:52,870 [Simon] With the hydrogen dive… 1156 01:20:53,580 --> 01:20:59,120 we've made an important contribution to future exploration… 1157 01:20:59,700 --> 01:21:02,830 I'm very grateful that I was part of it. 1158 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,160 [Little Dave] Harry's at the beginning of making something mainstream 1159 01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:11,950 that 20 years ago you thought wasn't going to be possible. 1160 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,830 [Ken] It may be that this is a turning point in technical diving, 1161 01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:18,500 and in 20 years' time, people will still talk about… 1162 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,056 the Richard Harris dive and the Pearse Resurgence 1163 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,120 as the point where hydrogen diving became a possibility. 1164 01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:29,580 [Craig] that any diver would be… 1165 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,660 immensely proud of. 1166 01:21:33,330 --> 01:21:34,660 The question is… 1167 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,910 whether it will be enough for Harry. 1168 01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:51,200 - [wind blowing] - [soft music playing] 1169 01:21:57,790 --> 01:22:01,370 [birds chirping] 1170 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,540 [Richard] has not been conquered. 1171 01:22:08,620 --> 01:22:10,500 It hasn't been overcome. 1172 01:22:14,330 --> 01:22:17,040 The mystery of the cave still remains, 1173 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,080 and it'll be there for the next generation of cave divers. 1174 01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:32,950 This cave has been a massive part of my life for the last 16 years. 1175 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,160 The breathing was good. I tied off to a bit of Craig's line… 1176 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,840 and then turned around and started scootering. 1177 01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:43,790 Yep, real's working, and I'm just scootering. 1178 01:22:43,870 --> 01:22:46,330 Along this passage, and for a minute, I was having fun. 1179 01:22:47,330 --> 01:22:50,040 [all laughing] 1180 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,160 [Richard] To walk away from that is difficult… 1181 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,500 but I feel an enormous sense of pride and achievement. 1182 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,370 I shouldn't need to get to the bottom of a cave 1183 01:23:06,450 --> 01:23:09,120 in New Zealand to be okay with who I am. 1184 01:23:12,330 --> 01:23:14,000 [helicopter blades whirring] 1185 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,080 [Richard] that I've stopped before this killed me. 1186 01:23:18,620 --> 01:23:22,160 I know that for a fact, and the same will go for Fiona. 1187 01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:29,160 [soft music playing] 1188 01:23:31,660 --> 01:23:34,180 [Richard] I've told Craig that I'm not going back to the Pearse. 1189 01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:38,750 And I thought he'd be devastated… 1190 01:23:39,700 --> 01:23:42,000 but he must have recognised that I was serious. 1191 01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:47,000 And you know what he said? He said, "Okay, where are we going"? 1192 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:58,620 [dramatic music playing] 1193 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:17,250 [soft music playing] 93306

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