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"The number one antenna...
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"Motherport flex cable..."
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# Micro, microprocessor!
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# Micro, microprocessor!
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# Micro, microprocessor! #
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"Discovery material, copies
of all documents related to..."
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Yeah?
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Hello, this is Katerina Tammi
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from Nokia Corporation.
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May I speak to
Mr McNeil, please?
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Yeah, this is Ed McNeil.
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Er, I'm Katerina Tammi
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from Nokia-Mobira, Finland.
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You have filed a patent infringement
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case against Tandy Corporation
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and Nokia. Yeah, we have.
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I have a question -
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is it true that you want
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copies of everything? I mean,
literally everything
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to do with the Cityman?
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At this hour?
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I would say, from the papers we
sent you...
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..we will need all the documents you
have.
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The documents as we find them?
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Correct. Good, that was all.
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Thank you. And that's why you called
me in the middle of the night?
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Goodnight!
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I hate you!
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Mmm?
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Oh, wow!
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Hey?
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Ho-ho?
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Ah...
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Uh-hm.
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And I just want to make sure
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every document must be signed?
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Yeah. Yes.
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Oh, my, are you OK?
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Yeah, it's just pretty
late here, so...
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Oh, damn. How come I never remember?
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Ugh, you should really get to bed,
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I got what I wanted. Thank you,
goodnight. You're welcome.
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So, here you are.
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Thank you. You're welcome.
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This is Patricia Rantala,
attorney of law.
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Hello, I'm from Campton & Guild,
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pleased to meet you. Patricia.
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I'm Katarina. Nice to meet you.
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Aki Makkonen, nice to meet you.
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And Eric Stewart, partner of the
company. Aki. Katarina.
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Nice to meet you, I'm Eric.
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They are going to prep you, so that
Motorola sharks don't eat you.
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And I just wanted to say...
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Excuse us for a moment. Sure.
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Right, let's have a try. Eric...?
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They're all yours.
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So, who told you to dismantle
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and examine Motorola phones in
detail?
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No-one.
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Perfectly common practice.
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Why do you examine and dismantle
your competitors' phones?
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It usually gives you good ideas.
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Someone has innovated something
somewhere and
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then we get our own ideas from
and...
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And there, they've got what they
wanted.
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You just indirectly said that you
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copy what you discover in the phones
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of other manufacturers.
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No, I didn't.
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I-I guess I didn't.
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Did I?
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Because...we don't do that.
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I meant that the others are
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also allowed to look for
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our work and get inspired by them.
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How old are you?
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28.
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And single.
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This is not funny, by any means, OK?
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Yes. So, our mission is to
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destroy 28 years of
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blue-eyed Finnish honesty in what,
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two weeks? Am I right?
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So, let's get to work, then.
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Next, anyone...?
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Go ahead...
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..make my day.
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OK, moving swiftly on to the next
stage,
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which is called the discovery stage
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or phase. Precisely because
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the aim of it is to
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discover something meaningful that
can be used against you
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in the real trial. The only purpose
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of getting to you beforehand is to
have you admit that
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you have been aware of the
consequences and purposely,
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deliberately and knowingly
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been aware of it all, therefore
committing a crime.
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In this case, a theft of their IPs,
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which, in this case, they already
own.
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Yes, yes. No. No, n-no.
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I mean, yes, that I understand
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what you say and
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not yes to that, that
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we were stealing something.
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Yes. No.
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What's your answer, your reply?
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Let the interpreter translate the
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whole question, even if you do
understand it, that's the safest
way,
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and the interpreter has translated
the question,
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you ask another counter question
back, a more particular one,
every time you can!
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What do you say when a lawyer asks
you what time it is?
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What should I answer?
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Excellent - a specific counter
question. No, no, I was asking.
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No!
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You reply - "In which country? Here
or somewhere else?"
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This way,
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you can gather your thoughts and
gain some time.
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No, I don't. I'm not good with
pressure.
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In this case, Nokia hasn't done
anything wrong, we're clean.
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It really doesn't matter what really
happened.
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What matters is what it looks like,
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that's the only thing they need in
an American court, OK?
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You're facing the fucking American
court, you dumb bastard!
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Well, we fucking faced the
Soviet Union, also.
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Yeah? Well, fuck that, this is a
different fucking ball game. Fuck!
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Your fucking life is on the line.
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OK, OK... This whole fucking
company.
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Yeah, yeah... Your whole country's
on the line!
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So, we have the right to remain
silent.
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No!
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Yes, I understand.
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No, of course, his driver will wait
for him there at the airport.
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I will. Thank you.
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And that is all the French I can
speak.
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I try to speak English.
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Breakfast, sir? Please.
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Breakfast is served. Allais. Allais.
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Very good, yes.
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I understood from
Mr Kouri that you...
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..have written about uncertainty
about decision-making.
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Er, yes, I wrote
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my thesis on the topic,
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but I have to confess,
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I have not encountered with
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your theories
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but then, they were not available
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in English.
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Are you working on something?
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Academically?
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I am head of finance at Nokia.
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Oh, so you are making decisions now,
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in times of uncertainty.
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How do you make decisions,
Mr Ollila?
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I gather a lot of information.
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But what is important to me is...
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..understanding what are the
options.
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But how is the moment of decision?
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How do you react in situations
of gamble?
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Well, at the moment, at Nokia there
is complete turbulence.
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I try to figure
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out a way to balance...
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..it,
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to reduce the fluctuation.
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Interesting.
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So, think about stars.
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Why are they in space?
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They float, move around,
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but huge star systems are not wild.
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Something pulls them together.
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Keeps them on track.
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What ties stars into a
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harmonique system,
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or the whole staff of a big company?
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Gravity.
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Tell me, what pulls people together?
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Goals.
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But when a goal is reached?
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Loyalty. What is the underlying
force? Values!
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Values?
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Jorma, what does your company
represent in the world?
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Because when values are shared by
the whole system of a company,
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you create deterministic behaviour.
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And...you reduce fluctuation.
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