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Peter Pan is an ancient, ancient soul. 2 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:10,600 And he finds these families. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,220 He takes the children to Neverland where they stay young forever. 4 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:33,140 I've seen children just shower all over me with love. 5 00:00:33,260 --> 00:00:35,220 They want to just touch me and hug me. 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,740 Hold on and cry and not let go. 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,200 Michael Jackson met Gavin Arvizo in 2000. 8 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:49,440 He was 10 years old. 9 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:52,540 And he was dying of cancer. 10 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:05,760 Michael wanted me to edit a short film of Michael and Gavin. 11 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:11,340 And I don't think it was meant for the public to see. 12 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,140 When I see that footage, it makes me uneasy. 13 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,460 Is it possible that Michael is a child molester? 14 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:34,700 Is it possible that he did something to this kid? 15 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,980 Dozens of investigators swarmed Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch. 16 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:48,340 The search is tied to allegations from a 12-year-old boy that he was molested by Jackson. 17 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:55,320 I was told that if you say or do anything, you're going to kill your career. 18 00:01:57,060 --> 00:01:58,820 Michael had some kind of control over me. 19 00:02:00,980 --> 00:02:03,280 I didn't say what I should have said. 20 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:05,680 Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police. 21 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,540 The entire accusations against Michael was a scam. 22 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:12,940 Michael Jackson under arrest. 23 00:02:13,220 --> 00:02:16,880 He had a succession of boys coming through his room and spending the night. 24 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:20,020 He could abuse children almost with impunity. 25 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:26,710 I remember Gavin's mom saying, 26 00:02:27,090 --> 00:02:30,850 I don't care what he offers, I will never take the devil's money. 27 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:35,930 A jury in Santa Maria, California has reached a verdict. 28 00:02:36,850 --> 00:02:41,430 If he's found guilty, it'll be a journey not back to Neverland, but straight to prison. 29 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:43,130 Do you think he's innocent? 30 00:02:44,950 --> 00:02:49,290 After everything you've seen, do you still think he's possibly innocent? 31 00:03:13,330 --> 00:03:15,390 Michael Jackson has a lot at stake. 32 00:03:16,650 --> 00:03:19,590 After years of scandal and some pretty odd behavior, 33 00:03:19,930 --> 00:03:22,470 the king of pop may have to fight to retain his title. 34 00:03:24,250 --> 00:03:28,310 At one time, the singer Michael Jackson was the hottest showbiz act in the world, 35 00:03:28,450 --> 00:03:30,410 but then his career drastically declined. 36 00:03:31,410 --> 00:03:40,040 When I met Michael Jackson, he was renting this beautiful townhouse right off Central Park. 37 00:03:40,860 --> 00:03:44,760 I walk in and Michael's in this room. 38 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:47,760 It was a little bit like this, you know, it was not a lot of light. 39 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,340 And he's very shy. 40 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Michael is very shy. 41 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,160 So I just started asking him questions like, what are you doing in New York? 42 00:03:54,820 --> 00:03:56,620 Well, I'm finishing my Invincible album. 43 00:03:57,380 --> 00:03:59,620 Little did I realize that was going on for like a decade already. 44 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:06,630 I was the rabbi at Oxford University for 11 years. 45 00:04:08,030 --> 00:04:12,290 And because I was so involved in the space of helping people order their lives, 46 00:04:12,450 --> 00:04:14,470 I felt that I could do that for Michael. 47 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:20,089 I mean, everyone knew that Michael Jackson was troubled in some way, 48 00:04:20,329 --> 00:04:23,370 that he was a little bit off. 49 00:04:23,410 --> 00:04:23,990 He was different. 50 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:30,230 In fact, if we want to be a little bit less kind, he was called Wacko Jacko. 51 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:36,210 We start talking and the conversation just began to roll. 52 00:04:36,890 --> 00:04:38,770 Probably turned into a two, three hour meeting. 53 00:04:39,490 --> 00:04:43,110 And then he starts sharing even this very private things immediately. 54 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:48,070 Testing, one, two, three, testing. 55 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:54,370 OK, let me ask you about, were you happy when I was little? 56 00:04:56,290 --> 00:04:57,790 Nobody's heard those tapes before. 57 00:04:59,470 --> 00:05:03,170 And the things that Michael reveals in those tapes have no precedence. 58 00:05:04,770 --> 00:05:07,670 My father made sure that we rehearsed every day. 59 00:05:07,970 --> 00:05:09,130 We had a bell in his hand. 60 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:11,810 If you went out of step, you'd get it real bad. 61 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:15,610 She'd be breaking furniture and it was just terrible. 62 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:19,370 My mother, she'd always been about here now. 63 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:21,270 Joe, no, you're going to kill him. 64 00:05:21,370 --> 00:05:23,150 No, no, Joe's too much. 65 00:05:23,950 --> 00:05:26,010 Throw you and hit you hard as he can. 66 00:05:27,550 --> 00:05:29,470 How did I feel listening to it? 67 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:31,630 Unnerved. 68 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:36,730 But I did begin to understand Michael so much more deeply. 69 00:05:37,790 --> 00:05:40,190 My father comes home late. 70 00:05:41,930 --> 00:05:42,810 Open the door. 71 00:05:44,330 --> 00:05:45,430 The door is locked. 72 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:47,770 So I'm giving you five seconds. 73 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:49,150 You don't open, I'm going to kick it down. 74 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:50,630 And he starts kicking it. 75 00:05:51,030 --> 00:05:52,590 Boom, kicking it, like breaking the door. 76 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:54,790 Why do you sign that contract today? 77 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:55,870 I go, I don't know. 78 00:05:55,950 --> 00:05:57,070 He goes, well, sign it. 79 00:05:57,290 --> 00:05:58,890 If you don't sign it, you're in trouble. 80 00:06:02,430 --> 00:06:06,230 Joseph had this thing, I'm raising men, not boys. 81 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:09,150 Crying was unacceptable. 82 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:14,490 Anything that he thought made them appear the least bit feminine, 83 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:17,690 that didn't sit well with him at all. 84 00:06:20,430 --> 00:06:22,210 His father had wanted him to be a performer, 85 00:06:22,310 --> 00:06:24,070 but had never given him unconditional love. 86 00:06:25,650 --> 00:06:28,450 He said to me, do you understand that from the age of five, 87 00:06:28,470 --> 00:06:32,990 I was taken to nightclubs where we saw stuff, nightclubs. 88 00:06:34,630 --> 00:06:38,090 Every night I was in clubs with a lady who took off all her clothes, 89 00:06:38,590 --> 00:06:39,850 threw her panties in the audience, 90 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:41,470 and the man would grab them and snip them. 91 00:06:41,890 --> 00:06:44,390 She'd put these things on her breasts and move them around, 92 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:45,930 and then she showed everything. 93 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,620 His brothers, anytime they were on tour, when they were adults, 94 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,440 there were many women that they would go in and out of hotels 95 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,620 with all that, you know, rock and roll stuff. 96 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,460 Except for Michael. 97 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,280 Michael would run away from it. 98 00:07:04,450 --> 00:07:07,690 Sometimes even by his own admission, he would cry. 99 00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:11,250 He always said to me, he found it disgusting. 100 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:14,350 Did it lead him to believe that sex can be disgusting? 101 00:07:14,530 --> 00:07:15,110 Yeah, possibly. 102 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:19,050 That's not the best way to discover what love and sex is about. 103 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:25,180 I always said, if I ever have kids, I will never behave this way. 104 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,900 I said, I won't touch a hair on their head. 105 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,180 Because people always say the abuse, abuse, and it's not true. 106 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,700 I'm totally the opposite. 107 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Michael was robbed of that childhood innocence. 108 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,180 And Michael spent his life trying to get the world's attention, 109 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,240 thinking it might compensate. 110 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:44,540 And it never did. 111 00:07:56,730 --> 00:08:00,170 I met Michael Jackson in 1984. 112 00:08:01,650 --> 00:08:04,410 The Jackson Five was on the Victory Tour, their reunion. 113 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:08,370 Michael introduced the moonwalk to the world at that time. 114 00:08:08,370 --> 00:08:10,070 I saw Michael Jackson. 115 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:17,070 At that time, his popularity was through the roof. 116 00:08:26,220 --> 00:08:29,080 When you think about 1984 and you think about Michael Jackson, 117 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,580 you think about this dark-skinned black man who women, 118 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,559 whether they were black, white, or whatever, 119 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,980 they were crazy about him. 120 00:08:37,020 --> 00:08:39,780 Thought he was the most handsome dude there was. 121 00:08:40,299 --> 00:08:41,020 He was sexy. 122 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:41,940 He was charming. 123 00:08:41,940 --> 00:08:43,440 He was electric. 124 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,180 He was the King of Pop. 125 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,520 And then there was this mystery to him, too, because he never really said much. 126 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,260 He lives here with his mother and two sisters, 127 00:08:53,860 --> 00:08:57,320 a boa constrictor, a llama, and a room full of mannequins. 128 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,760 He loves mannequins. 129 00:08:59,420 --> 00:09:03,240 He is a Jehovah's Witness, neither smokes, drinks, nor swears, 130 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:06,560 loves Disneyland, and is very shy. 131 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,400 And then Michael did something weird. 132 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:17,120 In the late 80s, early 90s, he stopped really having adult friends. 133 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:22,720 I know family members were wondering, what's happening there? 134 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,680 He basically cut them off. 135 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,540 And then, of course, he built this amazing place, Neverland. 136 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:50,400 It was a very isolated ranch, like 3,000 acres. 137 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,500 So there was this contradictory dichotomy of him, on the one hand, 138 00:09:55,540 --> 00:09:58,960 being the most recognizable entertainer on Earth, 139 00:09:59,620 --> 00:10:01,880 and then, on the other hand, never visible. 140 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,700 So when you built Neverland, was it your special place to protect yourself? 141 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:15,720 I could walk around the lake and not know what I'm being spied at. 142 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:23,540 I was just creating, in my life, things I never got to do as a child. 143 00:10:31,810 --> 00:10:35,930 Peter Pan knew what the real golden magic of childhood was all about. 144 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:40,830 And he'd find these families, and he takes the children to Neverland, 145 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:42,050 where they stay young forever. 146 00:10:45,970 --> 00:10:47,550 It was the summer of 2000. 147 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:51,850 My family and I arrived in Neverland. 148 00:10:54,330 --> 00:10:58,050 Michael was so reclusive, never visible, always hidden away. 149 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:02,450 And I would say to him, you're a youthful guy, and you don't have friends here. 150 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:05,490 He was totally alienated from his father. 151 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:08,370 And I began to understand that Michael was living a nightmare. 152 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:19,260 Stop pulling it down. 153 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:19,680 Stop. 154 00:11:26,540 --> 00:11:28,180 Come on, watch your fingers. 155 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,040 Put your hand down. 156 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:39,820 Working for Michael Jackson was a sea of madness all the time. 157 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,860 Michael, did you sign my picture from yesterday? 158 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,320 Can you give it back to me, please? 159 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:45,660 Sorry, I didn't see it. 160 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Okay, we gotta go. 161 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:49,180 We have to go. 162 00:11:49,180 --> 00:11:50,640 Watch out, we have to go. 163 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,320 Pull it back. 164 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,520 Why are they helping us out there? 165 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,620 Okay, all the way up. 166 00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:00,220 All the way up. 167 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Let go. 168 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:06,580 I was a 21-year-old producer trying to make it in Hollywood. 169 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:09,660 One project led to another project. 170 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:16,460 And before I know it, I'm working for the biggest star in the history of stardom, Michael Jackson. 171 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:20,700 From that day on, for the next few years, 172 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:24,420 me and Michael's director of photography filmed everything for Michael. 173 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,800 Going into a public place with Michael Jackson 174 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:35,100 can only be properly or sufficiently understood if you actually have seen it happen. 175 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:48,260 There is no comparison to Michael Jackson fans versus the rest of fans. 176 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,040 It is an entire different planet. 177 00:13:04,090 --> 00:13:07,650 It is people that truly look at Michael Jackson, 178 00:13:07,990 --> 00:13:11,990 not just as a man, but also as a god and their religion. 179 00:13:17,250 --> 00:13:21,030 It's like the biblical version of modern stardom. 180 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,240 But I have very, very few memories of when I actually felt like Michael was happy. 181 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,300 I think that the only times that I really saw Michael happy 182 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:41,740 was when he was playing, when he was surrounded by kids. 183 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:46,820 And that's why Neverland was perfect for Michael Jackson. 184 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:55,500 If any kid could build their dream house, they would build Neverland Ranch. 185 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:03,700 A train station, a carousel, roller coasters, a zoo. 186 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,780 It was just surreal. 187 00:14:07,820 --> 00:14:11,220 Michael Jackson, in my opinion, was just a kid. 188 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:21,280 I never saw a sexual side of Michael Jackson. 189 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,140 I saw an asexual man who wanted to be 12 years old and wanted to have water balloon fights. 190 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:28,560 Welcome to Neverland. 191 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:31,020 And have a wonderful day. 192 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,880 I saw a ton of kids visit Neverland. 193 00:14:41,140 --> 00:14:43,900 I saw a ton of sick kids with big smiles on their faces. 194 00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:48,160 I wanted to be a place where I could bring sick kids and 195 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,040 deprived and underprivileged around the world. 196 00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:57,740 A haven for them where they could feel safe and have some escapism. 197 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Or kids who never got to see the type of thing in the inner city, 198 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:03,940 you know, breathe fresh air and see the mountain. 199 00:15:07,970 --> 00:15:11,570 You have all these sick kids who came to Neverland Ranch and met Michael Jackson 200 00:15:11,570 --> 00:15:16,290 and met this Peter Pan like figure and had the time of their lives for 201 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:19,870 for one day before they went back to a cancer hospital. 202 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Michael wanted me to understand that he had noble motives, 203 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,600 that he was a good person, that he had a kind heart, 204 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,240 that he was genuinely devoted to children in general and to sickly children in particular. 205 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,080 And Michael kept on saying to me that a child who has cancer, 206 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,900 who he had met and befriended, was coming to stay for the first time. 207 00:15:54,890 --> 00:15:57,650 Gavin Arvizo was a 10-year-old kid. 208 00:15:58,270 --> 00:16:02,650 He was small, he was frail, and he had terminal cancer. 209 00:16:05,870 --> 00:16:09,830 I remember having to edit a short film of Michael and Gavin. 210 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,580 The video was made for Gavin's family and for Michael to enjoy and for Michael to have. 211 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,840 And I don't think it was meant for the public to see. 212 00:16:29,650 --> 00:16:33,970 The first time you see it, I think you're a little taken back, 213 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:36,870 especially if you don't know Michael Jackson really well. 214 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:46,210 It felt really uncomfortable because it's an adult man seemingly having like a picnic 215 00:16:46,930 --> 00:16:47,810 with a 10-year-old. 216 00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:55,460 It shows Michael and Gavin holding hands. 217 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:59,820 And the soundtrack that Michael specifically wanted to use was 218 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:02,720 I'll Be There, which is a really, really sweet song. 219 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:08,540 But it seems to sound like a little bit of a romantic song to the adult ear. 220 00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:10,579 But he wanted to be his best friend. 221 00:17:10,660 --> 00:17:16,000 He wanted to give this kid the best possible memories that he could at the end of his life. 222 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,520 I'm going to walk out of the shot. 223 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:34,850 Gavin just had chemotherapy and he's not feeling good. 224 00:17:35,650 --> 00:17:36,850 It just touches your heart. 225 00:17:38,110 --> 00:17:41,330 To me, he represents a white light that we see before we die. 226 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:42,970 He's that light, that hope. 227 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:44,730 Don't be afraid, come. 228 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:46,170 It's like an angel. 229 00:17:56,290 --> 00:18:01,730 I walked into Gavin's hospital room and there was a gigantic gift basket 230 00:18:02,350 --> 00:18:04,550 full of things like PlayStations. 231 00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:10,190 And I said, who gave you that? 232 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,070 And Gavin said, Michael. 233 00:18:14,530 --> 00:18:19,890 That's the first time I heard about the involvement of Michael Jackson in Gavin's life. 234 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:29,910 I was teaching stand-up comedy at the Laugh Factory to kids from tough neighborhoods. 235 00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:34,470 And Gavin was naturally funny. 236 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:41,880 The Arvizos lived in East LA in a one-bedroom apartment. 237 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:49,770 There were mattresses on the floors and sheets dividing where the parents slept 238 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:51,090 and where the children slept. 239 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,500 Janet Arvizo had three kids. 240 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,500 She was an effervescent, outgoing person who wanted to give her kids opportunities, 241 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,060 even though they didn't have a lot of money. 242 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,180 Gavin was a very affectionate child and his father had been abusive. 243 00:19:08,660 --> 00:19:10,900 So he craved attention. 244 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:16,380 We had comedians that work frequently at the Laugh Factory helping out as mentors. 245 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:20,500 I saw a lot of people going out of their way to help Gavin and this family. 246 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,120 And so he was introduced to Michael Jackson because they thought he would get joy out of it. 247 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:38,270 Gavin would talk to me about the fun he was having at Neverland and how I should go with them. 248 00:19:43,060 --> 00:19:47,360 Janet told me that Michael and Gavin were doing a lot of pranks, 249 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:51,300 a lot of sneaking up on people, a lot of playful wrestling. 250 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,760 And I would say, where is everyone sleeping? 251 00:19:58,020 --> 00:20:00,280 She would say, oh, we're sleeping in the cottages. 252 00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:05,770 I never said to her, I worry. 253 00:20:06,970 --> 00:20:14,450 But my view was that Michael Jackson probably had a sexual attraction for children. 254 00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:23,120 I knew about the Jordan Chandler accusations. 255 00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:27,220 So this is 10 years prior to Gavin. 256 00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:31,040 Michael Jackson is at the center of a criminal investigation. 257 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Pop superstar Michael Jackson is facing allegations of child abuse. 258 00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:38,040 He knew how to manipulate his world. 259 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,540 I am not guilty of these allegations, but if I am guilty of anything, 260 00:20:44,140 --> 00:20:49,820 it is of giving all that I have, all that I have to give to help children all over the world. 261 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:56,060 Jackson settled this case out of court and paid his accuser an estimated $20 million. 262 00:20:56,620 --> 00:21:00,360 There's a widespread feeling that he still has something to hide. 263 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:04,360 Michael Jackson built an amusement park in the middle of nowhere. 264 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:12,260 I don't think that's the behavior of somebody who's not attracted sexually to children. 265 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:17,720 But we don't know the truth because we're not in the room. 266 00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:20,820 So all we can do is formulate an opinion. 267 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:29,700 And I wasn't worried about Gavin being targeted because he had cancer. 268 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:30,560 He was dying. 269 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:39,680 I thought, why not let him go, pet the giraffe, just enjoy it. 270 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:46,880 I took Gavin on the Neverland. 271 00:21:47,620 --> 00:21:49,940 He'll get to climb trees at 10 years old. 272 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:55,580 We looked up and up at the leaves and the branches and you hear the water down below. 273 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,860 Everybody should have that experience and never feel like I'm too grown up to climb a tree. 274 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:06,310 Your love to him was amazing. 275 00:22:07,150 --> 00:22:07,710 It's special. 276 00:22:12,220 --> 00:22:16,520 Michael and Gavin had obviously created a bond through Gavin's sickness 277 00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:23,400 and his family had an obvious and reasonable reason to really adore Michael. 278 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,460 My name is Star and I really feel sad about my brother all sick and everything. 279 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,780 All they know about the cancer is aggressive and everything. 280 00:22:38,420 --> 00:22:39,220 That's it. 281 00:22:40,340 --> 00:22:43,560 The youngest son of the Arvizos was named Star. 282 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,320 And when you met Star, all he talked about was his future in comedy and TV. 283 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,920 Star just wanted to be a famous kid. 284 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Star wanted to be a TV host. 285 00:22:53,260 --> 00:22:56,720 Star wanted so much of the LA and fame world. 286 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Obviously, if you're put in Michael Jackson's world and you have access to cameras and 287 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Neverland Ranch, you just found your way to the big time. 288 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,360 Good evening. 289 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,660 Welcome to the Neverland Channel. 290 00:23:12,060 --> 00:23:12,900 My name is Star. 291 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,440 Here we are live at the Neverland Park. 292 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,800 As you can see, the kids are excited and they're full of popcorn. 293 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Michael paid for a big production crew to make a television pilot. 294 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:27,180 You are watching the Neverland Channel. 295 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:32,820 All kids, all fun, 24 hours around the world. 296 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:35,540 And it was the exploits around Neverland Ranch, 297 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:38,720 meeting the elephants, feeding the giraffes, going on the train. 298 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,860 Look it, Michael has so many fields of grass. 299 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,380 I love being here. 300 00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:45,120 Sort of like Nickelodeon at Neverland. 301 00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:49,520 Whoa, look at all sorts of rides over there. 302 00:23:51,540 --> 00:23:53,020 Gavin was in it a little bit. 303 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:56,040 But Star was the host. 304 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:01,820 As you can see, I'm here with the elephants and their trainers. 305 00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:04,240 Could I ask you? 306 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:09,460 It was obviously done out of the kindness of Michael's heart to make this child Star 307 00:24:09,460 --> 00:24:13,400 feel good about something or to do something for the child. 308 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,940 There you have it. 309 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:18,980 It's exclusive of the Neverland prehistoric animals. 310 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,420 And there it is, the exclusive of the elephants. 311 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,360 And that's a wrap. 312 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,220 On the surface, Neverland looks like a marvelous experience for children. 313 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,580 They felt like the most special little boys in the world. 314 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,740 They craved more of that. 315 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:40,700 Here I am with my very, very good friend of mine, Gavin. 316 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:45,040 But Michael Jackson was really good at seducing these kids. 317 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,080 He presented himself to the world. 318 00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:49,560 I am Peter Pan. 319 00:24:49,780 --> 00:24:58,960 And the spin control that he had never had a childhood was to disarm us. 320 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,540 Well, my favorite show is the video. 321 00:25:02,020 --> 00:25:02,940 But it was a facade. 322 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,300 Because I want to be the greatest dancer in the world. 323 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:12,860 Gavin was a fierce little boy. 324 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,780 But he suffered. 325 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:19,340 They had to remove a giant tumor from his abdomen. 326 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,500 They also removed one of his kidneys. 327 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,320 I said goodbye to him in my prayers every night when I left the hospital. 328 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,760 We thought he would die. 329 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:38,990 I spoke to Gavin again last night. 330 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:41,630 I was crying a mess on the phone. 331 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:43,450 He said, you called me daddy. 332 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:45,590 I said, can I call you daddy? 333 00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:46,190 Of course. 334 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:52,330 Michael helped arrange blood transfusions. 335 00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:54,330 He helped arrange certain cancer cares. 336 00:25:55,370 --> 00:25:58,770 And who knows why or how. 337 00:25:59,450 --> 00:26:03,790 But somehow Gavin Arvizo survived a terminal form of cancer. 338 00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:12,130 My heart just broke wide open. 339 00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:16,870 And he was really going to recover. 340 00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:19,390 And I was just overwhelmed by that. 341 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,520 We went and bought Christmas presents. 342 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,660 I remember that Gavin's hair had all grown back. 343 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,700 I was almost in tears. 344 00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:36,560 But when I saw him that Christmas and he was healthy, 345 00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:45,160 that's when I worried about how he might really now be in harm's way regarding Michael Jackson. 346 00:27:00,770 --> 00:27:08,490 After Gavin got better, Janet told me that she wasn't able to get through to Michael Jackson 347 00:27:08,490 --> 00:27:10,950 and they were not being invited back to Neverland. 348 00:27:12,650 --> 00:27:16,190 So there were all these confusing things that were happening. 349 00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:20,030 But I know how Gavin is. 350 00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:23,350 And, you know, once he became friends with Michael Jackson, 351 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:25,190 he wanted to be friends with Michael Jackson. 352 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:26,490 And he wanted to spend time with Michael. 353 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:36,330 Well, after spending three years in a reputed $20 million, 354 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:41,590 Michael Jackson is out to rock the world with his first studio album of new songs in 10 years. 355 00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:50,310 I am at the Beverly Hills Hotel meeting Michael Jackson for the first time. 356 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:56,530 I received a phone call from a friend at Sony who was complaining 357 00:27:56,530 --> 00:28:00,490 and very worried that the Michael Jackson record was not going to come in on time. 358 00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:06,790 And that was a problem because that's costing a million dollars, you know, a minute kind of thing. 359 00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:11,390 My role was to make sure that they could get a record in. 360 00:28:12,370 --> 00:28:15,730 When you work with like rap artists and stuff like that, it's like no hookers, 361 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:20,430 no blow. We got to get this in and we got a due date of the 15th. 362 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:23,850 I'm there to talk business. 363 00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:29,050 But then there was a mysterious man that just kind of showed up with a briefcase 364 00:28:29,890 --> 00:28:32,750 full of just pharmaceuticals. 365 00:28:33,210 --> 00:28:38,330 There was loads of pills and drugs. Demerol was a big one. 366 00:28:40,340 --> 00:28:44,320 And then we zipped around the corner and went to a pharmacy and picked up more drugs. 367 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,960 I'm like, what the hell? What is this genius? What are you talking about? He's drugged out. 368 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:57,140 In the studio, I realized very quickly that we're not focused on what we should be focused on. 369 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,700 He doesn't wake up until three in the afternoon and then you're sitting there like waiting 370 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,980 for hours and hours and hours. And then he gets up and I don't feel like it. 371 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:15,240 He wasn't even there half the time. I thought, why isn't anybody saying anything? 372 00:29:17,020 --> 00:29:22,080 He was surrounded by yes, people. And if you didn't say yes, you were whisked into the corner. 373 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,140 Michael! 374 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:31,580 My biggest concern was the fact that he's woozy and out of it all the time. 375 00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:35,780 The fact that he would call me up from Neverland here in this house and say to me, 376 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,580 Shmuley, I love you. I miss you. 377 00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:44,680 And I would say to Michael, you know that this is going to kill you. 378 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:47,840 Shmuley, it's medical. It's this. I said, Michael, 379 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,080 you know, you're too smart to talk yourself into this. There's nothing medical about this. 380 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,980 I was trying to save him from a death. 32379

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