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How old were you when you lost your
virginity? I became a man at nine years

I walked in on it. Watch it because she
touches your butt.

Sweetie, you got to show up.

I don't think I look like an ape. Do I
look like an ape?

You preferred going to jail over Israel?

Do you ever see the four of you hanging
out again? Never say never.

Your hands are not clean either.

We were like this then, Melissa.

You went to jail for lying. You're a
liar. You set me up.

Hold on, do you think she called the
government on you? You do?

And I'm so happy I got that off my
chest.

We'll be back in a minute.

When you have that gut feeling, you have
that gut feeling. Okay, guys, we're not

talking anymore.

That's crazy.

No wonder you're so angry at me.

Yeah, you're fucking crazy. I learned
from the best.

Part two of the Real Housewives of New
Jersey reunion starts now.

That is insane.

That's a dangerous person.

Even if she didn't directly go to the
government, she had other people do her

dirty work.

I used to say nothing surprises me, but
I can't believe that somebody would go

to that extreme just to make themselves
look better.

Let's just come back right there.

Deep breath. Thank you.

Help her.

Three, two.

We are back with the Real Housewives of
New Jersey.

We've brought in Chris Loretta. Hi,
Chris. How you doing? And Joe Gorga. Hi,

Joe.

Before we took a break, there was quite
an accusation.

You guys were behind everything, calling
the government.

What? Yes.

Now I put her in jail. You feel that
Jacqueline was responsible.

Well, not responsible. Let me reframe
it.

I feel like she was definitely dabbling
in it.

She was speaking to people. Getting
information.

No, to people that maybe those certain
people then went to the Fed.

Wrong. I wasn't involved in your...
Well, I feel like you were.

Jack's an investigator.

You admit that. I'm a fact checker.
You're a fact checker. You talk to a lot

people, and so that's why she feels this
way. She's not saying that you caused

her to go to federal court. Let me ask
this.

I'm curious, with the two of you, if you
two think that Jacqueline is capable

of putting Teresa's family in this
light.

I wasn't witness to it.

I'm friends with Jacqueline, and all I
can tell you is my... How long?

I've been friends with Jacqueline for
two and a half years now. Okay.

And I've never seen anything but good
come out of her. I only see her as...

were right in the beginning. I only see
her as a loyal person who wants to help.

We can say Jacqueline gets upset,
Jacqueline gets emotional.

I don't know her to do the thing that
she's being accused of. I know I'm not

wrong. I'd love to hear from Chris.

You know, Teresa, I know the truth of
what really happened.

Oh, you do?

I do, honestly.

How do you know?

I'm going to explain it to you.

I'm going to explain it to you. You
know, I don't like them talking about my

personal business because they don't
know.

You're accusing them of being involved.
Yeah, but you're going to tell you the

story. So he wants to explain himself or
defend his side of the story.

Listen. There's nothing to defend.

The reality is we have a mutual friend.
I know you do. Okay? I know. And he

called me up one day and said, hey.

Apparently, there's a real estate
dispute. This guy is going to go to the

Why don't we try and get them together
so they can make a deal and there'll be

no problems? I said, all right. I didn't
call Joe myself.

I called another mutual friend that we
have. A couple of days later, he called

me back.

I talked to Joe.

He said, tell him to go f*** himself.

I said, okay.

I called my friend.

Here's the message.

I said, I want nothing to do with this.
And that is exactly what happened.

Well, I feel like your wife was involved
speaking to him.

Teresa, my wife had nothing to do with
it. Chris, I've seen her in action.

I've seen her. She had a lot of people
do her dirty work.

Regardless of what happened, at what
point do you take responsibility for

you did?

Chris, I took responsibility.

The investigation started way before
when we were friends.

When she got out of prison, they said to
her, this is what happened.

These are your people that are. I don't
know. They kind of said they mentioned

her name, that she was step by step what
she was going through. I heard you were

doing that.

You used to hold on you used to call me
and say she's gonna get more time. She's

going back in She's not gonna get I did
hear that and I said, how would you know

that you were feeding me all the
information? Okay, like for what

Go ahead Like what I know anything you
told me like your husband went to the

prison with his mother and they talked
about getting a divorce And who's

parents were fighting there was a war
that you would feed me so much

You girls should run for the f***ing
hills. She sucks.

She will tell all your secrets. Look at
me in my eyes. I warned you first.

She sucks.

You're talking about personal family
s***.

Go ahead, look at me with your crazy
f***ing eyes.

Oh, now you're getting upset because I'm
speaking to her. That's right, because

you make me like, you're really gross.
Because you're trying to twist all these

lies on me. I'm not twisting s***. When
I tell the truth, you're all heated,

aren't you? Let's talk about it again.

I'm not twisting s***.

You were disgusting trying to say she's
going to get more time.

Excuse me? You used to say that. No, I
couldn't. No one believes you. No one

believes you. And talking about her
business. No one believes you. Let's be

real. I'm not looking at my husband
because I'm talking truth between two

girlfriends. When I started talking
truth, look how heated you got. Because

you're a liar.

And I like that. You guys are the ones
who are lying. I'm not lying.

How many Xanax did you take? I heard you
took like five Xanax. Liars. Are you

kidding?

What, 10?

I'm anti -medicine.

Okay, but you can say all that, then I'm
not supposed to defend myself.

Teresa, we built a great relationship
together, and we had a lot of fun,

We had a blast.

Of course we did. That's why she has
nothing bad to say about me.

I never did anything to hurt you guys.

So, you know, when we first met Joe and
Melissa, obviously we knew nothing about

them. Joe, you and Richie, while Keely
actually called me, you wanted to sit

down. And I told you that Joe and Teresa
were my friends.

I don't want to get in the middle of
this stuff.

Jacqueline is a different person than I
am. And she's like, you know what? I'm

not going to judge Melissa or Joe based
on what I'm being told. I'm going to

find out for myself.

And that's how we got to start to get to
know Melissa and Joe.

And honestly, we fell in love with them.

Jacqueline said, why can't we put them
together? Why can't we all hang out

together and all have fun together?

And that's what she tried to do.

Okay? And I told Jacqueline, you are
going to get their family, and one day

they're going to come back together, and
you're going to become the bad guy.

Well, here we are.

I'm looking at Joe Gorga, and I kind of
feel like you kind of miss these guys a

little bit.

Listen, you know, there's no, I had no
turmoil with anybody.

You know, this to me is petty.

I'm going to be honest with you.

My family destroyed me.

That was a problem for me.

I want

you to

be a man. Stick with your blood.

I'm not sticking with scum like you.

For years, I was a mess.

This, to me, is all bullshit.

Chris, did you gamble away $500 ,000?

Never in my life. Was Jacqueline a
stripper when you met her? My son should

never speak another word in his life if
I'm lying right now.

I met Jacqueline in Chicago at a trade
show.

I didn't say you met her as a stripper.
Yes, you did.

You said she gave him a damn. No, no,
no, I didn't say that. You were a

stripper. Come on, show us a lap dance.
Give my brother a lap dance. You know

what, buddy? Give Andy a lap dance.

You know, Andy, I'm thinking back to
when Jacqueline and I first started to

build our relationship with Joe and
Teresa.

Yeah, well, that's long gone. Yeah, it
is long gone, but I want to bring it up

for a reason.

The reality is, Teresa, I know she cares
about you and still does, as crazy as

that sounds.

I'm not going to sit here and bull to
anybody because there's no upside for

OK. All right, OK, fine.

Well, we're going to see more of you in
a bit.

We're going to take a break right now,
and we'll be back from Jersey in a

minute.

There is a possibility that Joe could be
deported.

Back with The Real Housewives of New
Jersey.

You know, sometimes when I'm watching
the show, I feel like I need a Jersey

translator.

Let's take a look at some of our
favorite Jerseyisms from the season.

I want to get an edamame.

Like an enema?

Yeah. An edamame? Wait, wait.

People will say, well, I'm illiterate.
I'm not illiterate. I think they have

Ramadan done.

Endorphins and Saratogans.

Cornrows. They're called lipstick.

Lesbians. I don't know what this is.
It's like... To a fire escape door.

The sun is shining.

So that's daytime.

And I know you wanted to do red accents.

Can't stop.

What is this? I don't know. I can't feel
it. You did it all.

Did you learn that at camp? I don't
know.

You don't understand.

I don't know why.

Teresa,

have you gotten an edamame yet?

No, I wanted to because I want to go
with Dolores.

You know it's not an edamame, right? I
know. How do you say it?

Edamame. No, it's a colonic, actually.

Have you gotten one, Andy? I have never
gotten one. You haven't lived then.

What are your plans for Ramadan done?

Ramadan. We used to celebrate it when we
were there.

It's not Ramadan -dan, first of all.
It's Ramadan.

Ramadan. Oh, I didn't even know that. I
don't know. I just get tongue twisted.

I had braces in the back of my teeth
that were making me talk a little funny.

No. No, no, no. No, no, no. I'm not
going for that either. Oh, that's harsh.

That's mean.

Jacqueline just made a good point.

I said that is one of the endearing
things about you. Thank you. Yeah.

Dolores, you are the first to admit that
fights in Italian families are like

wars. This year, why did you think
Melissa and Teresa were finally able to

the path behind them? Did someone eat
it?

They both did.

They both did. And she was away long
enough for things to calm down. Right.

that year break saved them.

Joe, do you think there's anything that
can break you and your sister apart

again? Never. No.

Well, Teresa, over the years, we have
seen you face a lot of adversity.

Bankruptcy, family war, even your
husband calling you the C -word.

First of all, he didn't call me the C
-word to my face.

He was on the phone.

Hold on, here she comes, my bitch wife.
She's such a... Who are you talking to?

Some would argue that it's worse that he
said it behind your back.

I'd rather him say it behind my back and
not to my face.

Well, this season you showed the world
that nothing, not even 11 and a half

months in federal prison, can take you
down. Take a look.

That is such a joke. No freaking way.

I am a survivor, and I love the person
that I am. I love

all of my girls the same, but Adriana is
my baby.

I'm coming home to a situation where I
need to make money.

Turning the tables is number two.

The Pope is number four.

You're just like your dad.

Don't bring my dad up. I'll smack your
head up against the wall, so shut up. I

think you need to leave.

Let me tell you something. I can't wait
to leave.

The only thing I'm going to miss are my
kids.

He needs to pick up.

It would be good for him.

I can't wait to hear from him.

Oh,

no. Looks like you got everything under
control.

I mean, before I got married, I always
crossed every T, dotted every I, so I'm

going to go back to the way I was.

I might put the house up for sale.

Really?

Uh, lots to discuss.

As I watched this season, it seemed like
you were getting your finances.

In order, I was surprised to see that
you might have to sell the house.

I just thought maybe it would be better
to, like, just a downsize. But my kids

don't want to leave, so that's why I'm
working hard as a single mom and doing

everything I can so we could stay there.

What was the number one thing you
learned from your time in prison?

That's a hard question. I learned so
many things. I met a lot of wonderful

women.

You think, oh my God, there's such bad
people in prison. And there's not.

Now it's kind of easier for me to say
that word because I couldn't even say

word. You couldn't. Why couldn't you? I
just don't like it because it's just not

who I am.

Were you ever tempted to get with a
lady?

No. No.

No, I would get massages and that would
feel good. I guess that would be my

getting off.

Did you? No, I mean like I'm kidding.
Okay.

Keep on going with this. No. A lot of
people felt like it sounded like... A

place to be.

I mean, if you saw where I lived, it was
pretty disgusting.

So it was kind of prison -y.

It was really old and dungy and moldy.
The reason why I keep my head up high, I

know I'm not a bad person. I know I
didn't try to commit a crime.

And I did what I had to do.

Do you now understand what you did
wrong? Well, the numbers that were on

papers were incorrect.

That's what I got in trouble for. I
didn't fill out that mortgage paper.

The mortgage broker did.

the bank did, and the attorneys.

All they did was sign another line.

Listen, I took responsibility, but I
wish everybody else in that room would

went away also.

Have you ever put any blame on Joe for
your time away?

No, because he took full responsibility.
He said my wife had nothing to do with

it. But because I'm in the public eye,
they had to make an example of me, and

they did. When I went to court, if you
saw the photographers...

helicopters that were there. It was
insanity.

If Joe could have done her

time, he would have.

Rosemarie from Evanston said, Teresa, I
get it. You admit to signing something

you shouldn't have, but I feel like you
don't have remorse.

Remorse? You and Joe cheated the system.
Do you admit and understand that that

was wrong? Okay, I spent 352 nights away
from my daughters.

I would like that person to be away from
their children for 352 days. Did you

count every day?

Oh, yeah. Then I just got a calendar,
and I was, like, crossing it off. How's

Melania doing with Joe's absence?

She seemed to take it to heart. I mean,
he's doing good. How often do you and

the girl get to go visit Joe? Every
week.

Does he have a six pack yet?

Almost. Wow. Tell Andy how much weight
Joe has lost so far. Oh, over 35 pounds.

Wow. Yeah, he looks really good. That is
incredible.

Despite what Kim D alleges, what various
gossip sites have alleged, you 100

% stand by that Joe Giudice never
stepped out on you while you were in

That's how I feel, yeah.

If a girl says, oh, I was with Joe
Giudice. Oh, really, bitch?

Let me see intimate pictures.

You want proof. Because I know if I was
with Joe Giudice, I would make sure I

would get kissing pictures. I would make
sure I would get pictures in bed.

Believe me.

Nan from Portland writes, Teresa, when
you first got home, you seemed like you

were in shock and exhausted.

How long did it take to start to feel
normal again?

Well, I didn't sleep for two days
because the night before, the girls had

party for me there.

What do they serve at a going -away
party?

Oh, they make food.

Crackers? No, you get popcorn, melt
caramel, butter, nuts, and then you mix

it all together and you get the most
delicious thing. I feel maybe a skinny

Italian Danbury book. I wanted to do
one.

Dawn from Springfield said, Joe Gorga is
Gia's godfather. Do you think she has a

lot of anger towards her dad because of
the legal issues and the drinking? No.

I've been spending a lot more time with
her now.

And she is the most mature person.

She's got a boyfriend now.

She does have a boyfriend.

Joe talked to him on the phone.

I mean, Joe can't punch him from where
he is. No, but we don't need to. She's

put together. She should date Frankie.

They're very close. I know. Since they
were little. You never know. She's only

allowed to have one boyfriend. That's
it. But you never know. They may get

together later on.

The talk you and Joe had outside.

by the fire pit the day before he left
for prison was very moving.

You either learn two things in there.
You either learn how to become a

or a better person. So I'm going to try
to become a better person.

Do you feel like he'll be able to keep
it together? Oh, yeah. I could see him

already keeping it together.

I'm going to ask you this question, and
I know it's your least favorite question

that I could ever ask you.

And you walked off Access Hollywood when
you were asked, and that is the idea

that There is a possibility that Joe
could be deported when he gets out of

prison.

Where are you emotionally with that?

Well, first of all, it's a legal matter,
so I'm not really supposed to discuss

it. Yeah. And I guess, you know, we'll
deal with that when it comes.

Why does that pain you so much?

Because I just don't want to talk about
it because I don't want it to, you know,

I don't, I'm not. You don't want to give
it life.

Yes. That's the best reason.

that I've heard all along. You don't
even want to put it out there. I got it.

There's nasty people out there that
would give it life, and there's no need

give it life.

Teresa, thank you.

More from Jersey after this.

I went to jail for what? Lying. Oh,
really? Yeah. You're a friend, and

the end of it. I don't know how you live
with yourself. You are so done.

Okay. All right. All right.

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.

We are joined again by Chris Lurita.

Hi, Chris.

This season, we saw new beginnings with
the Gorgas and Judices, but new

beginnings were not in the cards for
Kathy and Rosie. Why weren't you willing

start fresh with your cousins?

Because I don't need family like that.

Kathy blew it up to a whole nother
thing. Oh, cancer, like trying to make

look bad. I want to cut the cancer out.

Well, we're not cancer. They're toxic. I
don't need family that's toxic.

They never called once. They never
wrote, sent me a card. You didn't hear

them while you were gone? Never.

Never. And Jacqueline, don't get
involved.

You wouldn't even sit on the same couch
with them. I don't understand this girl.

But I'm just saying, because they're not
here to defend themselves.

Look! I want you to understand. Why
don't you worry about your family? I do.

They know what I meant. But of course,
they had to drag it out to Jacqueline.

And I said, our door is always open for
you.

And then she said, my door is open too.

But Jacqueline's intention from the very
beginning was only to bring this family

together. Well, that's not how I feel.

This is the thing. Teresa just got home.

Yeah. Joe is leaving.

Right. They're not her first priority.

They disgraced our families. And Rosie
wasn't around, so she wasn't there for

husband. My aunt, what kind of aunt
would say something about their niece

that? I mean, even Siggy, she said her
aunt would never respond that way, ever.

How do you feel that your niece is
guilty to fraud?

When you don't do the right thing, Rich,
it always catch up with you.

My family would never believe that I was
guilty, ever.

I would say, you know what? I know
Teresa. She's a wonderful mother. I wish

only the best.

Liz from Destin said, Melissa, what
happened with you and Kathy? You guys

to be so close. Did you pull away to be
loyal to Teresa?

No, it had nothing to do with Teresa.
And it wasn't that we ever had like an

argument or a fight. We kind of grew
apart.

She stopped calling me. I would call
her. She wouldn't call me back. You

see it like that. That's 100 % true. You
know that too. And I've told you this

story a hundred times.

You're just going to back up whoever
you're backing up. That's fine.

You know it's true, Jacqueline. You know
it's true.

Henry from Maine said, Teresa, after the
meeting with Kathy and Rosie aired, you

posted on Twitter a picture that said,
that's all, folks.

Is that the Twitter kiss of death?

Yes. Yes, that was it. Wow.

Well, it was a crazy trip.

Let's take a look at the nightmare in
Vermont.

You fucking calling me a soldier makes
me want to rage on your fucking ass.

Do it! Shut the fuck up. Oh, yeah, shut
the fuck up. Come on.

Listen,

I don't want anything to happen with her
and I.

It would happen again.

You shouldn't antagonize anybody.

I was friends with Teresa when she was
chasing a prostitution whore out of a

country club.

She flipped a table on somebody.

When she threw a man off a chair.

And I didn't judge her on it. I wasn't
mad at her. And you know what? Some of

those people were my friends at the
time.

I think she's using this as an excuse to
turn on me. You're the one that always

has soldiers.

No, no, no.

Kimby, Penny, Johnny the Greek, Jan.

I had nothing to do with that. Really?
That's not what they said. You were in

this salon with her and didn't warn her.
Guess what?

As soon as I found out.

Wait, Melissa.

You tell the truth right now. When I
found out, did I tell you?

Um, I don't remember. I gotta be honest.
I really can't remember.

What's wrong with you? You're a fake,
phony bitch.

That's what you are.

Phony. Yes, you are. You fake, phony
bitch. Okay, this is enough. You're four

-nose job. You won't even admit to. Four
-nose job? I said you warned me. Okay,

thank you for finally answering it. I
think she warned you because she knew

was going down.

I didn't warn you because I didn't know
what was going on. You are such a

twisted bitch.

I learned from the back. You did it. I
learned from the best. You did

everything. I learned from the best. I
feel threatened right now. I don't want

you to get threatened. Because if you
get in her face, if you get... You're a

criminal. Oh, my God. I feel threatened.
I feel threatened.

Melissa, why did you invite Christina
and Robin?

Because these are two girls that have
been hanging out with her a lot.

I by no means thought that, you know,
that was going to happen between her and

Jacqueline.

She said nothing negative to you at all.

Oh, she started trying to come at me
with things. It went on forever. But

the one important. You know, I don't
understand how it escalated.

Well,

we had our robes on. We were roasting
marshmallows. I think we're going to

a Havana Gila moment. And then it
escalated to you saying that I'm a

makes me want to rage on your ass. Now,
at this point, I'm thinking Robin's

going to rage on Jacqueline's ass.

So now she's going to get mad at her ass
because I'm a little bit blah, blah,

blah. And then Jacqueline's handing her
her ass. Someone says they're going to

rage on your ass. Why would you go sit
on their lap? I was mocking her.

But why?

Why would you even endanger yourself
that way? I don't know. I was falling in

love.

I think Jacqueline was upset because she
felt set up again.

And she sincerely wanted to believe that
this attempt at mending a friendship

was real. And I think she was
disappointed it wasn't.

Julie from Georgetown said, Siggy, a lot
of times this season you have a look on

your face like, who are these people and
what did I get myself into?

You've never been around Italian girls
from Jersey, have you?

It's not that it's just Italian girls.
Listen, people want to love each other

and be together. They got to tango
together.

That Vermont trip, Jacqueline walked
into dinner and she was shocked by the

that Teresa said there are two people
missing. She thought she would have

hey, Jacqueline, what happened? Did my
friends offend you?

I thought Jacqueline would have said,
I'm sorry that happened with your

Right. I asked you. Nobody said
anything. Yeah, I asked you how you feel

that because I wanted to talk to you
about it. But what could have diffused

everything is when Jacqueline looked at
Melissa and said she was almost looking

for a lifeline. Melissa, you know that
it didn't have anything to do with it.

I answered her, but not quick enough.

But by the time you got to the answer,
she speaks to me like a child and barks

at me like I'm their child.

I'm not defending Jacqueline's delivery.

Jacqueline's delivery was bad. The first
thing I learned in therapy when I was

getting divorced was emotions do not
travel in rational channels. So I look

these situations. I've been thinking
that all day.

I need to know something.

Melissa. Yes.

Did you have four nose jobs? No.

Let me tell you something. It's the
worst kept secret, obviously.

Not two different doctors?

Why do you care?

It's the worst kept secret, but it's my
secret as well. Not yours.

You don't want my daughter to hear it.
Thank you.

I'll let Antonia know now.

Thank you, Jack.

You're a great friend. The only thing
about her nose job is the fact that she

can lie with a straight face. Hold on.
Is it any of your business? That's my

lie. The person with the most plastic
surgery in the room cares. Actually, no,

they've had more plastic surgery than
me. But it wasn't about your gut. It's

fact that you lie with a straight face.
You were doing it that night, and

history shows that you both are liars
because you do it with a straight face.

You went to jail for it. I went to jail
for what? Say, I went to jail for what?

She went to jail for what? I went to
jail for what? Lying. Oh, really? Yeah.

Friend and that's the I don't know how
you live with yourself. You are a very

low dirty thing Okay, all right. Look at
her clown looking face All

right, she's probably the clowns that
are coming around our house. You know

she's probably one of them No, I
wouldn't say that. I would just say

friend. No, she's a clown Jacqueline you
knew wait, she's a wolf in lamb's

clothing, but she's a wolf with rabies.
It's a wolf and sheep That's what I

said. That's what I said. That's what I
said.

That's what I meant. A wolf in sheep's
clothing. Such a war. You can't argue

with the war. A wolf with rabies. All
right, look, can you stop and get away

from me? Trust me, I am.

You're disgusting.

You are disgusting.

Doesn't affect my life.

Doesn't affect my life either. That's
why you keep crying for me. Listen,

for a second.

You're obsessing me. Everybody stop.
Stop.

Okay. She's so dumb.

Jacqueline. No, you're dumb. You're a
dumb bitch.

You're a moron.

Stop. This is bickering bulls. Let's go.
Tell her to shut the fuck up then.

Okay. All right. We're going to take a
break.

You hired security?

I removed the knives, and I wanted to
make sure that there was security there.

Look, you need to remove the knives, and
there should not be a lunch.

That's how I feel.

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.

Joe Gorga, Jacqueline and Melissa were
really close friends before Teresa got

home. Why do you think they started
having problems once Teresa was back in

picture? There was no problems till that
trip, you know, and you flipped out for

no apparent reason. No apparent reason.
Okay.

They're going to eat their words if they
go there. Yeah. I don't need any words,

honey. You had your reasons, but a
friend doesn't do what you did.

And a friend doesn't do what they did.
What did I do to you? And if that was

her... No, before that, you were trying
to flip it on me. You were getting very

paranoid. This is my feelings. You were
questioning a lot if I thought that our

relationship was real. I understand
that, because you didn't believe it. You

never believed Teresa was going to
change. And neither did you. Did I say I

think she's changed for the better? Did
you not tell me?

You don't believe you and Teresa are
really friends, do you? No. You know

she hasn't changed, right? I don't know.
I don't know which conversation you're

talking about. You are making me
paranoid. I don't know what... You put

paranoia in my head about her. I'm
turning you off. Look at this.

Off, because when you lie, I turn you
off. No, but I want you to think what

was saying about me. Jump off a bed. I
didn't start this, Jacqueline. No, I did

not. No, I did not.

What? Yeah, when Jacqueline gets the
phone calls from whether it be Melissa

this current time or Teresa back then,
I'm the guy in the room that...

I'm over here in the call. Right. So
quite honestly, Melissa and Joe, they

us hate Teresa.

Nah, you're wrong about that. Hold on. I
defended you. But hold on.

Jacqueline stood up for you guys. It
kind of ruined our relationship with Joe

and Teresa. Chris, don't get it twisted.
The relationship got screwed up when

she called her out on the magazines on
the porch that day. It has absolutely

nothing to do with me.

Stacey from Providence said, Melissa, do
you think Jacqueline ever really cared

about your friendship or were you just a
means to get to Teresa?

There was a time when Jacqueline and I
had like a friendship. I would listen to

her about Nicholas.

I would tell her about my kids.

But I feel like her mind messed with
her, and she thought that I was going to

turn on her.

And then, in fact, you had to prove your
own self right, and you made it happen

all by yourself.

And I want to put you right here. Trust
me. I would have loved to see you guys

met. And I need you to understand that.
Well, Dolores and Siggy, you care about

all these ladies. I do.

But let's see how you stand up against
the biggest C in New Jersey, conflict.

Oh, God. Take a look.

How about if everybody comes to my house
for lunch on Friday? Do you have

insurance?

I'm going to remove these from the
table.

I want one -on -one. You can be there if
you want to be a mediator. We're going

to do it the way you want to do it. Hi.

Hello, hello.

Teresa, can I have you sit here?

Huh? And then, Melissa, can you leave?

Jacqueline's barking orders at me. Well,
you don't call the shot.

I think I am calling the shot today. Oh,
sorry.

Miss Teacher?

Is that better?

Bitch better?

It's better?

Why did I think I could have a one -on
-one conversation with these morons?

Jacqueline!

Wait a second.

Jacqueline! Wait, wait, wait, wait. I
wanted to give her the kiss of death

today. Little, sweet, innocent
Jacqueline is a nut.

What is the kiss of death?

It's like I'll never see you again, like
goodbye. Yeah, goodbye.

It's like saying goodbye from Scarface.
Did you know what? The Godfather. I got

it, I got it.

Siggy, you got back from Vermont.

and you organized a group lunch.

You hired security.

I removed the knives, and I wanted to
make sure that there was security there.

wasn't taking any chances. You got rid
of the knives. This is how I feel. If

need to remove the knives and you need
to call security, then there should not

be a lunch. That's how I feel.

Jacqueline, why did you decide to come
to the luncheon?

Because I've been where Siggy is, and
she just wanted everyone to get to a

of peace. So my intention was I wanted
to sit with each person one -on -one.

Without anyone interrupting, I wanted
them to speak to me.

And then I was going to speak to them.
That seemed so rational and logical.

But watching it, you didn't say, you
know what, you guys? Would you do me the

honor of sitting with me alone one -on
-one? You can talk. I was going to do

that. And then what happened was when
they came in, it was attitude right

My walls went up. They came in
expecting.

and still with a chip on their shoulder
because of the... No, it's just how I

feel. I didn't walk in with a chip on my
shoulder. But you were both angry still

from Vermont. I was actually coming in
very peaceful.

She's, like, toxic, evil, like,
miserable.

She is psycho.

Okay, here we go.

I'm staying corrected, and I'm glad to
be wrong.

Is there anything that you were going to
say to Teresa that day that you haven't

already said today?

Let's agree to disagree.

We're never going to be friends again.
That's fine.

When we're around each other, let's
respect, you know, our boundaries.

Would you have agreed to that agreement
had her approach been different?

Yeah, I mean, yeah. What would you have
said to Melissa?

Actually, I wasn't going to say anything
to Melissa.

Because I was irrelevant to you and I
was never a friend, so you really didn't

give a shit. I think Jacqueline feels
she put her neck on the line for you.

By going against Teresa's wishes of
embracing you.

And don't talk to me anymore than if you
weren't going to talk to me that day.

I'm done.

Tell us why you think Jacqueline is so
upset with Teresa.

My wife puts her heart and soul into a
friendship.

Sometimes she goes too deep with caring
for people. And when she's hurt, she

goes to the extreme opposite direction.

Joe Gorga, do you think there's hope for
this group? This is a disaster.

Wow.

We'll be back.

Done. I'm going.

I don't do liars.

Okay, you are a liar. I don't do liars.
Can I get a water, please?

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.

Siggy and Dolores, you both are friends
with Jacqueline and Teresa. What do you

think would have to happen to repair
this relationship?

They would both need a lobotomy.

I think, listen, time heals all broken
wounds.

You know, no one can predict the future.
I always have hope. They play in the

mud. It's just like a marriage.

You know, you take a car, you don't put
gas in the car, it's not going to move

from point A to point B.

You got to put gas in a relationship.

And they both have to be willing to do
it together. At the same time. Yeah.

Well, Jacqueline and Teresa, it seems
like your relationship has reached the

of the road. Maybe.

I hope not.

But you guys have had some good times in
the past. Take a look.

I mean... Quit when you're ahead.

Teresa and I had a really good
friendship for about 13 years.

She was like a sister to me. We were
very close. We had a lot of good times

together. Sounds like two balls.

And a little pee -pee. Mmm.

There's nuts in the balls.

I want to thank the Giudice family for
inviting us up to their country home

weekend. Happy holidays to everybody.

Nobody knows Jacqueline better than me.
And I know she wants a relationship with

Teresa. They always used to call each
other Lucy and Ethel. They have a very

strong bond, whether they both want to
believe it or not.

Always feel free to call me, you know?
Or if you need a ride somewhere, because

I know you don't go on the highway.

I'm like, I'm freaking...

Nightmare. She's just not doing what
she's supposed to be doing.

Oh,

don't cry.

If she needs a shoulder to cry on, I'm
here for her.

Hi. Hey, clever pajamas.

And she has to remember that Nicholas
gave her this flower just in case they

ever date one day.

It's for you.

Aw,

Deanna, what are you saying?

What's it like watching that?

Hard. Hard. I mean, that gets you both,
right? Of course. Those are our babies.

And, you know, no matter what we go
through, I'll always have a special

my heart for Nicholas.

I mean, he's a beautiful baby.

You know?

Jacqueline, are you willing to admit any
wrongdoing in your relationship with

Teresa? Of course. I've always
apologized for the things I've said.

taken accountability when I'm angry. We
both... have said and done terrible

things to each other.

It's just, that's how we get when we're
mad. It's like two sisters that rip each

other's hair out, and then the next day
they're like hugging over something.

I don't like to do that with my friends.

Are you willing to admit any wrongdoing
in your relationship with Jacqueline?

I mean, I'm going to say yes, but like I
never did anything to hurt her

intentionally. You know, when you're
married to someone, we had great times.

had great times.

So, I mean...

I don't regret that that happened in my
life. That was a part of my journey.

I'll never forget it. And we did have
good times together.

But something happened. Something went
south.

The biggest thing is when somebody
apologizes for something, it's over.

It's done. It cannot be brought up. You
cannot say, I don't trust you because

you did this. You start there from
scratch and start new. Otherwise, you're

wasting your time.

Jacqueline. You said you were done with
Teresa, but the day Joe went away, that

seemed to hit you really hard. Why?

I'm not a monster. I mean, I'm going to
cry now, but just because I'm angry at

someone and it doesn't mean that I don't
have compassion and I don't see what

people go through.

It's like you're seeing something like
that. I've known him for a long time.

I've known her.

And it's hard to see. That's all.

Did that move you at all? I think if
anyone sees a mom go away and leave

four daughters... I know, but given what
you had been through, did that give you

warm feelings for Jacqueline at all? I
mean, at the time it did, yes. At the

time it did, yes. Good.

Jacqueline, after Joe left for prison,
you said if Teresa ever called you and

needed you, that you would be there.

Could you say the same for Jacqueline?

I guess, but I'm sure... That's the same
thing that I said to my cousins, but,

you know, when you're...

No, no, meaning like you're never going
to call me, I'm not going to call you.

You're going to call somebody that's
close to you. You never know. You never

know. So, I mean, you know, of course,
and that's, of course, you know. But I

don't think either one of you would turn
each other away. That's right, and if

Jackson called you, Teresa would be
there for her and vice versa. No, of

All right, we're going to take a break.

More with the Jersey Housewives after
this.

Coming up... Can you guys just do it for
me, please?

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.

Dolores, you really learned to lean on
this group.

I did. I never realized that there could
be such a camaraderie because I was

like a lone ranger all this time.

Speaking of strength from the group,
Jacqueline, it was heartwarming to me to

see the women on the spot trip lift you
up when you were really going through it

about Nicholas. That had to mean a lot
to you. A lot.

Were you surprised?

Yeah. Why?

I have a lot of proud mommy moments with
him. You want him to have what everyone

else has, and it's so frustrating. And
he will. You know what? Listen, you

believe, and he will.

No, for real.

Not easy.

Yeah. This is a nice one.

You know, I can have those moments and
somebody understands.

What's going through your minds, your
holding hands?

As much as I get angry at people, I
don't like to see anybody hurt. I would

guess also as mothers, seeing her daily
struggle. Yeah, but I do think she's

wonderful with Nicholas.

It's something that's always right here
on her mind. Jacqueline wakes up and has

a much harder job than all of us. And on
top of that, never complains.

And on top of going through a lot, what
I really admire about everybody here is

that we are the best moms ever.

I agree with that 100%. We are like,
we're warrior moms. I have to say

something, and it's a compliment to you
ladies.

I'm proud to know you guys. I love you
guys.

I'm never going to Vermont again.

Having said that, I am so grateful for
this journey.

It would really make me happy if we all
just got up and gave each other a hug.

Group hug!

Can you guys just do it for me, please?

You can't tell her no.

I would like to see a group hug as well.
I mean, to be honest, we both said

terrible things.

I would like to get to a place. We don't
have to be friends. We don't have to go

deep. We don't have to do any of that.
And from this moment forward, I will

uttered a bad word about you she's
saying can you coexist peacefully in the

room yeah but just please please i beg
you don't hurt me or my family like

talk to if anybody wants to hurt me
don't talk to them jackson i would never

have to eat it just say okay yeah i
wouldn't i never did hurt you i'm

You know like all right, let's not go
backwards. Let's go forward. Okay. Can

have a truth here? Peace. That's what I
want

Let's have a group hug, okay, I'm

gonna help you up you're in that track
down All right ladies, and I have to be

the closest to Jack

I love you girls so much. This is really
happening.

A nice hug.

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