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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,701 --> 00:00:04,580 ARCHIVE- SONG: ♫ And I am proud to be an American ♫ 2 00:00:04,637 --> 00:00:08,175 ♫ Where at least I know I'm free ♫ 3 00:00:08,241 --> 00:00:11,779 ♫ And I won't forget the men who died ♫ 4 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,826 ♫ Who gave that right to me ♫ 5 00:00:14,881 --> 00:00:20,024 ♫ And I gladly stand up next to you ♫ 6 00:00:20,086 --> 00:00:23,431 ♫ And defend her still today ♫ 7 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:28,838 ♫ 'Cos there ain't no doubt I love this land ♫ 8 00:00:28,895 --> 00:00:35,540 I' God bless the USA!" I' 9 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:39,573 MIKHAIL GORBACHEV: [speaking Russian ] 10 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:44,214 Reagan was a staunch conservative. 11 00:00:45,545 --> 00:00:49,925 So for him, coming from that background, 12 00:00:49,983 --> 00:00:52,463 it was easier to make the move towards us 13 00:00:52,519 --> 00:00:54,760 and meet us halfway. 14 00:00:54,821 --> 00:00:57,427 Someone else might not have been able to do it. 15 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:59,993 And the chance could have been lost. 16 00:01:01,661 --> 00:01:02,503 17 00:01:39,332 --> 00:01:40,333 One more time! 18 00:01:42,735 --> 00:01:46,774 [sings] ♫ Stand by your man! ♫ 19 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,913 ♫ Give him two arms to cling to and 20 00:01:50,977 --> 00:01:53,685 NARRATION: A concert on the White House lawn for an ex- Hollywood 21 00:01:53,746 --> 00:01:58,456 film star who was now President of the United States. 22 00:01:58,518 --> 00:02:02,625 ARCHIVE - TAMMY WYNETTE: [sings] "Stand by your man..." 23 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:05,932 'DOC' FRAZIER: I knew that Ronald Reagan would bring this country 24 00:02:05,992 --> 00:02:08,598 back to the place it belonged, 25 00:02:08,661 --> 00:02:10,937 not make you ashamed you were an American, 26 00:02:10,997 --> 00:02:12,999 make you proud to be an American. 27 00:02:13,066 --> 00:02:17,208 Ronald Reagan had the ability to convey 28 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:21,980 whatever he was thinking of in terms that everybody understood. 29 00:02:23,042 --> 00:02:25,488 He just seemed to have a warmness about him 30 00:02:25,545 --> 00:02:27,024 that the people felt. 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,424 ARCHIVE- TAM MY WYNETTE: You're making me nervous! 32 00:02:31,451 --> 00:02:33,158 I love you! You're wonderful! 33 00:02:33,219 --> 00:02:35,062 Thank you! 34 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:42,664 ARCHIVE- V/0: Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the B-1 B! 35 00:02:42,729 --> 00:02:46,199 NARRATION: A strident anti-Communist for most of his adult life, 36 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:49,804 Ronald Reagan believed America lagged behind the Soviet Union 37 00:02:49,869 --> 00:02:53,078 in the arms race. 38 00:02:53,139 --> 00:02:55,983 RONALD REAGAN: I urge you to beware the temptation of blithely 39 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:58,079 declaring yourselves above it all 40 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:00,624 and label both sides equally at fault, 41 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,286 to ignore the facts of history 42 00:03:03,349 --> 00:03:05,920 and the aggressive impulses of an Evil Empire, 43 00:03:05,985 --> 00:03:09,057 to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding 44 00:03:09,122 --> 00:03:11,500 and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right 45 00:03:11,558 --> 00:03:14,038 and wrong and good and evil. 46 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,643 NARRATION: In the first years of Reagan's presidency, 47 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:25,911 the Soviet Union's armed might appeared to be at its peak. 48 00:03:25,972 --> 00:03:28,043 CASPER WEINBERGER: I had no doubt that the Soviet goal 49 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:30,348 was world domination. 50 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:33,823 Their military posture, their actions, 51 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,884 their foreign policy actions, their aggressive behavior- 52 00:03:36,950 --> 00:03:39,658 all of this contributed to that single conclusion. 53 00:03:46,326 --> 00:03:49,068 NARRATION: The Soviet Union had been the first into space 54 00:03:49,128 --> 00:03:51,335 but now a fear lurked in the hearts of 55 00:03:51,397 --> 00:03:53,274 top Soviet commanders - 56 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:55,006 fear of American technological superiority. 57 00:03:57,503 --> 00:04:00,848 I had a meeting in Moscow with Marshal Ogarkov, 58 00:04:03,209 --> 00:04:06,588 the Chief of Staff of the Soviet Armed Forces. 59 00:04:06,646 --> 00:04:09,650 And he said, "You know, all modem military capability 60 00:04:12,385 --> 00:04:15,093 is based on the computer. 61 00:04:15,154 --> 00:04:18,158 You have little kids in America three years old 62 00:04:18,224 --> 00:04:20,966 who know how to deal with computers! 63 00:04:21,027 --> 00:04:25,305 It takes years here to train Soviet recruits in the military 64 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:28,835 to use them because they've never used them before. 65 00:04:28,901 --> 00:04:31,177 We're afraid of computers! 66 00:04:31,237 --> 00:04:34,047 If we start deploying computers, 67 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:37,418 it's going to mean loss of political control for 68 00:04:37,477 --> 00:04:39,423 the Soviet leadership." 69 00:04:39,479 --> 00:04:42,085 [ Russian announcement] 70 00:04:42,148 --> 00:04:45,322 NARRATION: The ageing Kremlin rulers were still willing to bear 71 00:04:45,385 --> 00:04:49,162 the crippling cost of being a superpower. 72 00:04:49,222 --> 00:04:51,395 [ Cheering ] 73 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:53,562 For the peoples of the Soviet Union, 74 00:04:53,626 --> 00:04:57,870 this meant a life where every day items were in short supply. 75 00:04:57,930 --> 00:05:00,809 [speaking Russian ] 76 00:05:00,867 --> 00:05:03,575 The standard of living was very low. 77 00:05:03,636 --> 00:05:06,139 We lived from pay day to pay day. 78 00:05:06,205 --> 00:05:09,084 We couldn't feed our children properly. 79 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:12,885 The food that was available was so poor and the queues - 80 00:05:12,945 --> 00:05:16,051 we used to spend three, four, five hours 81 00:05:16,115 --> 00:05:19,119 queuing for some lousy sausage! 82 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:22,962 NARRATION: Brezhnev introduced a new face 83 00:05:23,022 --> 00:05:25,332 into the ranks of the Kremlin leadership - 84 00:05:25,391 --> 00:05:26,233 Mikhail Gorbachev. 85 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:33,000 He was ordered to reform Soviet agriculture. 86 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:35,672 The land that Stalin had brutally collectivized 87 00:05:35,735 --> 00:05:38,807 had never delivered plenty. 88 00:05:38,871 --> 00:05:40,544 Soviet farming was grindingly inefficient. 89 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:46,153 When I became a director of large institute 90 00:05:46,212 --> 00:05:50,092 which was responsible for space launches, 91 00:05:50,149 --> 00:05:54,325 the first priority was to supply work force to 92 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:56,628 collective farms during the harvest 93 00:05:56,689 --> 00:06:00,899 and only then to consider how we can save 94 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,303 our next launch program. 95 00:06:04,630 --> 00:06:07,076 [speaking Russian ] 96 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:10,444 The system was breaking down. 97 00:06:10,503 --> 00:06:12,813 People were rejecting it because it didn't allow them 98 00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:17,116 to find satisfaction or to show any initiative in their work. 99 00:06:17,176 --> 00:06:20,714 It didn't allow people to speak out freely. 100 00:06:23,549 --> 00:06:27,224 NARRATION: President Reagan was portrayed by a vocal minority of Americans 101 00:06:27,286 --> 00:06:30,028 and many Europeans as a war monger. 102 00:06:30,089 --> 00:06:33,969 NANCY REAGAN PUPPET: Ronnie! You're not dressed up for Halloween! 103 00:06:34,026 --> 00:06:36,404 Nance! If John F. Kennedy were alive today, 104 00:06:36,462 --> 00:06:38,032 he'd be younger than I am. 105 00:06:38,097 --> 00:06:39,770 I'm seventy-five years old 106 00:06:39,832 --> 00:06:42,142 and I've got my finger on the button! 107 00:06:42,201 --> 00:06:45,148 I just couldn't think of anything more scary than that! 108 00:06:45,204 --> 00:06:47,514 Trick or treat, fellers! 109 00:06:47,573 --> 00:06:49,883 [ explosion ] 110 00:06:51,944 --> 00:06:54,424 NARRATION: The United States and the Soviet Union already 111 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,657 possessed nuclear arsenals large enough to wipe each other out. 112 00:06:59,719 --> 00:07:02,325 Both sides were constantly introducing more powerful 113 00:07:02,388 --> 00:07:04,800 and accurate missiles. 114 00:07:10,463 --> 00:07:13,842 The renewed arms race and Reagan's anti-Soviet rhetoric 115 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:18,110 revived the anti-nuclear movement in western Europe. 116 00:07:22,842 --> 00:07:25,379 Peace campaigners could not have imagined that the revulsion 117 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:27,322 they felt for nuclear weapons 118 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:30,224 also had an echo in the White House. 119 00:07:33,786 --> 00:07:37,632 GEORGE KEYWORTH: The President viewed the concept of deterrence between us 120 00:07:37,690 --> 00:07:41,331 and the Soviet Union as no different than holding 121 00:07:41,394 --> 00:07:44,204 a cocked gun at each other's heads. 122 00:07:44,263 --> 00:07:48,370 It was very clear to me from the beginning that he was, 123 00:07:48,434 --> 00:07:52,109 to say the least, extremely uncomfortable and, 124 00:07:52,171 --> 00:07:54,344 as I began to understand later on, 125 00:07:54,407 --> 00:07:58,981 he was fundamentally, morally, ethically opposed to the concept 126 00:07:59,045 --> 00:08:01,321 of mutual assured destruction 127 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:04,554 and deterrence as we know it. 128 00:08:04,617 --> 00:08:07,496 NARRATION: Advances in computers and laser technology 129 00:08:07,553 --> 00:08:09,157 promised to give Reagan - 130 00:08:09,222 --> 00:08:10,929 and he believed the whole world - 131 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:14,062 a way out of the nuclear dilemma. 132 00:08:14,126 --> 00:08:16,197 Work was going forward on a revolutionary 133 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:17,263 new defense system. 134 00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:23,845 What if free people could live secure in the knowledge 135 00:08:23,903 --> 00:08:26,975 that their security did not rest upon the threat of instant US 136 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:29,918 retaliation to deter a Soviet attack? 137 00:08:29,976 --> 00:08:33,014 That we could intercept and destroy strategic ballistic 138 00:08:33,079 --> 00:08:36,993 missiles before they reached our own soil or that of our allies? 139 00:08:37,049 --> 00:08:39,893 I know this is a formidable technical task, 140 00:08:39,952 --> 00:08:43,126 one that may not be accomplished before the end of this century. 141 00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:47,069 I call upon the scientific community in our country, 142 00:08:47,126 --> 00:08:49,402 those who gave us nuclear weapons, 143 00:08:49,462 --> 00:08:52,341 to turn their great talents now to the cause of mankind 144 00:08:52,398 --> 00:08:55,140 and world peace - to give us the means 145 00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:59,308 of rendering these nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete. 146 00:08:59,939 --> 00:09:01,612 Good evening, this is the CBS Evening News - 147 00:09:01,674 --> 00:09:03,745 Dan Rather reporting- tonight from Washington. 148 00:09:03,809 --> 00:09:06,119 President Reagan today followed up last nights 149 00:09:06,178 --> 00:09:07,452 defense policy speech. 150 00:09:07,513 --> 00:09:10,187 He gave the go-ahead to develop a space-age system designed 151 00:09:10,249 --> 00:09:13,560 to neutralize an enemy nuclear missile attack. 152 00:09:13,619 --> 00:09:15,724 A system domestic critics today called 153 00:09:15,788 --> 00:09:19,702 'too high-cost, too high tech, too pie-in-the-sky'. 154 00:09:20,426 --> 00:09:25,466 Suppose we had been talking in terms of 1940 155 00:09:25,531 --> 00:09:29,172 and somebody had said, "We can take a little atom, 156 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:32,444 an atom is something you can't see. 157 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:34,951 But when we explode that little atom, 158 00:09:35,007 --> 00:09:37,180 we can destroy a whole city." 159 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:38,586 Would you have believed it? 160 00:09:38,644 --> 00:09:41,853 Would you have said, "Let's try it?" 161 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:44,895 Franklin Roosevelt said, "Yes!" 162 00:09:44,951 --> 00:09:48,364 Franklin Roosevelt is in history as a hero. 163 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:49,627 For what? 164 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:52,033 Producing an offensive weapon of mass destruction. 165 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:57,740 Ronald Reagan on the other hand came into office 166 00:09:57,797 --> 00:10:02,871 and said, "Hey, we should have something that will stop this". 167 00:10:02,935 --> 00:10:05,313 [computer sounds] 168 00:10:06,872 --> 00:10:10,217 NARRATION: Reagan's Strategic Defense initiative 'SDl' - 169 00:10:10,276 --> 00:10:12,688 nicknamed "Star Wars" after the movie- 170 00:10:12,745 --> 00:10:15,692 envisaged satellite and ground-based weapons that 171 00:10:15,748 --> 00:10:21,357 could destroy Soviet missiles with darts and laser beams. 172 00:10:21,420 --> 00:10:23,024 It was a shock - 173 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:28,129 it's like all our hopes for beginning of the 174 00:10:28,194 --> 00:10:32,973 understanding now dangerous is militarization of space, 175 00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:34,033 just suddenly evaporated. 176 00:10:36,936 --> 00:10:39,576 [speaking Russian ] 177 00:10:40,139 --> 00:10:42,847 All the parity and stability created over 178 00:10:42,908 --> 00:10:44,854 many years through arms procurement 179 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:47,789 and negotiations were disrupted. 180 00:10:50,182 --> 00:10:54,528 It meant that we too would need to spend huge amounts of money. 181 00:10:58,290 --> 00:11:03,968 It would begin a new phase in the arms race. 182 00:11:04,030 --> 00:11:07,534 ARCHIVE - SONG: ♫ "Twinkle, twinkle, little star ♫ 183 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,672 ♫ How I wonder what you are ♫ 184 00:11:10,736 --> 00:11:13,979 ♫ Up above the world so high ♫ 185 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,678 ♫ Like a diamond in the sky... ♫ 186 00:11:15,741 --> 00:11:18,244 NARRATION: Many American politicians and scientists campaigned against 187 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:22,918 what they saw as Reagan's expensive folly. 188 00:11:25,418 --> 00:11:28,956 ARCHIVE- NARRATION: The heavens are for wonder, not for war! 189 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:31,797 Stop Star Wars! Stop weapons in space! 190 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:36,831 NARRATION: Reagan's critics said that SDI was hugely expensive 191 00:11:36,896 --> 00:11:38,603 and would never work. 192 00:11:38,664 --> 00:11:41,474 They were appalled by the deep cuts in welfare programs 193 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,946 that would be needed to pay for it. 194 00:11:44,003 --> 00:11:46,643 [ explosion ] 195 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:50,176 Ronald Reagan soon discovered that his close ally, 196 00:11:50,242 --> 00:11:52,415 British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, 197 00:11:52,478 --> 00:11:55,186 was also critical of SDI. 198 00:11:57,349 --> 00:11:59,522 A firm believer in the nuclear deterrent, 199 00:11:59,585 --> 00:12:01,895 she tried to persuade her friend to abandon 200 00:12:01,954 --> 00:12:04,560 his beloved "Star Wars". 201 00:12:04,623 --> 00:12:06,796 ROBERT 'BUD' McFARLANE: Staff around the table afterwards said that Reagan 202 00:12:06,859 --> 00:12:09,237 had really gotten hand-bagged that day. 203 00:12:09,295 --> 00:12:12,139 And he called me into the Oval Office the next morning 204 00:12:12,198 --> 00:12:16,169 and he said, "Bud, Margaret and we are just not getting along 205 00:12:16,235 --> 00:12:17,646 on this SDI issue. 206 00:12:17,703 --> 00:12:21,947 I wish you'd go to London and see if you can't at least 207 00:12:22,007 --> 00:12:25,545 lower the level of criticism publicly. 208 00:12:25,611 --> 00:12:27,522 We're going to have a tough time getting appropriations 209 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:29,617 if this keeps up... 210 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:33,854 She gave me the same lecture she had given two weeks before and, 211 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:38,891 seeing I was getting nowhere, I interjected during a pause, 212 00:12:38,958 --> 00:12:41,939 "Prime Minister, President Reagan believes that there 213 00:12:41,994 --> 00:12:45,464 is at least $300 million a year that ought to be sub-contracted 214 00:12:45,531 --> 00:12:49,775 to British companies that would support SDI." 215 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:52,748 And there was a long pause. 216 00:12:52,805 --> 00:12:56,878 She finally said, "There may be something to this after all!" 217 00:12:56,942 --> 00:12:58,819 [ applause ] 218 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:02,291 NARRATION: Leonid Brezhnev died in November 1982. 219 00:13:02,348 --> 00:13:06,524 The ailing KGB chief, Yuri Andropov, succeeded him. 220 00:13:06,585 --> 00:13:08,792 Andropov was frightened by SDI 221 00:13:08,854 --> 00:13:10,197 and Reagan's anti-Soviet speeches. 222 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:16,371 Convinced that the West was plotting war, 223 00:13:16,428 --> 00:13:18,101 Andropov ordered a worldwide alert. 224 00:13:20,466 --> 00:13:24,505 The KGB monitored every aspect of life in the West. 225 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:27,414 [speaking Russian ] 226 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:30,511 The banking system was to be closely watched, 227 00:13:30,576 --> 00:13:35,116 as were the hospitals and road building programs. 228 00:13:35,181 --> 00:13:37,286 Were the banks attempting to convert their system 229 00:13:37,349 --> 00:13:40,125 to a war footing? 230 00:13:40,186 --> 00:13:43,793 Were hospitals preparing new beds and setting up blood banks 231 00:13:43,856 --> 00:13:47,269 for massive numbers of wounded? 232 00:13:52,364 --> 00:13:55,345 NARRATION: The Americans stepped up spy flights in sensitive areas 233 00:13:55,401 --> 00:13:57,403 along the Soviet Union's long borders. 234 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:06,148 Aircraft packed with electronic surveillance gear 235 00:14:06,212 --> 00:14:08,419 looked like civilian airliners 236 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,053 and often flew close to passenger routes. 237 00:14:12,117 --> 00:14:13,653 [speaking Russian ] 238 00:14:13,719 --> 00:14:17,861 In this period '81, '82, and especially '83, 239 00:14:17,923 --> 00:14:20,631 how did it feel on the front line? 240 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:22,639 Well, we were flying more often as there were more 241 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:24,038 spy planes provoking us. 242 00:14:26,098 --> 00:14:30,513 We were in a constant state of tension. 243 00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:33,072 NARRATION: On August 31st 1983, 244 00:14:33,138 --> 00:14:37,382 a South Korean airliner, Flight KAL 007, 245 00:14:37,443 --> 00:14:40,014 with 269 people on board, 246 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:42,423 left Anchorage for Seoul. 247 00:14:42,481 --> 00:14:45,519 The plane strayed from its normal route 248 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:48,224 into Soviet air space. 249 00:14:48,287 --> 00:14:51,200 [speaking Russian ] 250 00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:53,635 I received a phone call informing me that an 251 00:14:53,692 --> 00:14:57,230 unidentified plane had been spotted over Kamchatka, 252 00:14:57,296 --> 00:15:02,211 and that our attempts to contact it had been unsuccessful. 253 00:15:02,268 --> 00:15:03,838 I ensured that all the forces 254 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:08,283 at our disposal were immediately put on alert. 255 00:15:13,012 --> 00:15:16,687 I said, "Take all measures so that it is either forced to land 256 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:21,425 on Sakhalin or, if it will not co-operate, shoot it down!" 257 00:15:21,487 --> 00:15:23,160 [speaking Russian ] 258 00:15:23,222 --> 00:15:26,635 I could see two rows of windows which were lit up. 259 00:15:26,692 --> 00:15:29,935 I wondered if it was a civilian aircraft- military cargo planes 260 00:15:29,995 --> 00:15:33,033 don't have such windows. 261 00:15:33,098 --> 00:15:38,411 I wondered what kind of plane it was but I had no time to think. 262 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:40,973 I had a job to do. 263 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,045 I started to signal to him in international code. 264 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:48,614 I informed him that he had violated our airspace. 265 00:15:48,681 --> 00:15:51,423 He did not respond. 266 00:15:51,483 --> 00:15:53,588 [speaking Russian ] 267 00:15:53,652 --> 00:15:57,225 Despite the signals from our planes including 268 00:15:57,289 --> 00:15:59,360 warning shots with tracers, 269 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:02,770 the pilot failed to react, simply continuing on his course. 270 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:07,573 [speaking Russian ] 271 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:09,078 My orders were to destroy the intruder. 272 00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:12,377 I fulfilled my mission! 273 00:16:12,438 --> 00:16:15,908 NARRATION: The Korean airliner came down off Sakhalin Island, 274 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,149 killing everyone on board. 275 00:16:19,211 --> 00:16:27,289 [ Grieving relatives/woman screaming ] 276 00:16:27,353 --> 00:16:31,495 The United States reacts with revulsion to this attack. 277 00:16:31,557 --> 00:16:34,731 Loss of life appears to be heavy. 278 00:16:34,793 --> 00:16:40,038 We can see no excuse whatsoever for this appalling act. 279 00:16:40,099 --> 00:16:42,409 [speaking Russian ] 280 00:16:42,468 --> 00:16:44,573 We came to the conclusion that we simply needed to be honest 281 00:16:44,636 --> 00:16:47,310 and admit, "An unfortunate incident has occurred. 282 00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:52,846 There was a pilot error, bad weather, 283 00:16:52,911 --> 00:16:56,552 one thing led to another. 284 00:16:56,615 --> 00:16:58,492 It was not a pre-planned action - 285 00:16:58,550 --> 00:17:01,394 no one wanted this. 286 00:17:01,453 --> 00:17:03,126 It was a tragic mistake." 287 00:17:05,257 --> 00:17:08,067 We went to Kornienko, the deputy Foreign Minister, 288 00:17:08,127 --> 00:17:09,606 who agreed with us. 289 00:17:09,661 --> 00:17:12,870 But he was not able to convince the leadership. 290 00:17:12,931 --> 00:17:15,104 This was a question of prestige 291 00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:18,705 and the military don't like to admit mistakes. 292 00:17:21,407 --> 00:17:26,254 NARRATION: A mood of crisis now gripped both the East and West. 293 00:17:26,311 --> 00:17:28,791 Arms control talks were broken off. 294 00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:31,555 Soviet SS-20 rockets were now confronted 295 00:17:31,617 --> 00:17:34,621 by Cruise and Pershing missiles deployed in western Europe. 296 00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:43,403 The Soviet leadership believed a nuclear attack by the 297 00:17:43,462 --> 00:17:45,305 West was imminent. 298 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:49,835 A British agent inside the KGB sent warnings to London. 299 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:51,575 [speaking Russian ] 300 00:17:51,637 --> 00:17:53,776 When I told the British, they simply couldn't believe 301 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:56,217 that the Soviet leadership was so stupid 302 00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:59,779 and narrow-minded as to believe in something so impossible. 303 00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:03,691 I said to them "OK, I'll get you the documents!" 304 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:06,389 I think only a tiny handful of people knew the 305 00:18:06,452 --> 00:18:08,762 full details of how fearful they were. 306 00:18:08,821 --> 00:18:11,097 And we knew them, as is now public knowledge, 307 00:18:11,156 --> 00:18:13,067 through some extremely well-placed agents 308 00:18:13,125 --> 00:18:15,765 who were able to pass on the information that the Russians 309 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:19,139 actually feared that the West was preparing for aggressive 310 00:18:19,198 --> 00:18:21,804 nuclear war against the Soviet Union. 311 00:18:23,802 --> 00:18:26,715 NARRATION: Allied and domestic concern rose. 312 00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:28,615 ARCHIVE- RONALD REAGAN: Good evening. Please be seated. 313 00:18:28,674 --> 00:18:31,052 NARRATION: Reagan tried to reassure Andropov. 314 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,852 Just suppose with me for a moment that an 315 00:18:33,912 --> 00:18:37,621 Ivan and an Anya could find themselves, say, 316 00:18:37,683 --> 00:18:41,460 in a waiting room or sharing a shelter from the rain 317 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,899 or a storm with a Jim and Sally 318 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,096 and there was no language barrier 319 00:18:47,159 --> 00:18:50,072 to keep them from getting acquainted. 320 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:52,803 Would they then debate the differences 321 00:18:52,865 --> 00:18:55,209 between their respective governments, 322 00:18:55,267 --> 00:18:57,110 or would they find themselves comparing notes 323 00:18:57,169 --> 00:18:58,978 about their children, 324 00:18:59,037 --> 00:19:02,507 what each other did for a living? 325 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:05,453 NARRATION: Ronald Reagan, encouraged by his wife Nancy, 326 00:19:05,511 --> 00:19:09,015 consulted Suzanne Massie, a popular writer on Russia, 327 00:19:09,081 --> 00:19:11,755 to help him understand his Cold War adversary. 328 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:16,529 SUZANNE MASSIE: President Reagan was, of course, a people person. 329 00:19:16,588 --> 00:19:20,263 He loved people and he had a great instinct for people. 330 00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:24,935 I had been told by these fellows at the White House that, 331 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,567 of course, if I were ever writing anything for the 332 00:19:26,632 --> 00:19:29,476 President, it had to be single... double-spaced, 333 00:19:29,535 --> 00:19:31,105 one and a half pages. 334 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:32,740 Well, what can you get from that? 335 00:19:32,804 --> 00:19:34,306 President Reagan had never seen a Russian 336 00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:36,250 in the first three years. 337 00:19:36,308 --> 00:19:37,787 He couldn't go there. 338 00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:41,188 He was an actor: actors like to absorb from feeling. 339 00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:47,861 I said, "Mr. President, if you are re-elected, 340 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:54,303 will this policy of small steps toward better relations 341 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,966 be a continuing policy of your administration?" 342 00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:02,474 And Ronald Reagan had a pretty eagle eye when he wanted to 343 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:06,482 and he looked down at me and he said, very definitely, 344 00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:14,047 he said, "Yes! if they want peace, they can have it!" 345 00:20:14,112 --> 00:20:18,458 NARRATION: But to whom in the Kremlin could Reagan talk peace? 346 00:20:18,517 --> 00:20:20,519 In February 1984, Yuri Andropov died. 347 00:20:22,854 --> 00:20:26,028 His successor, Konstantin Chernenko, was too frail 348 00:20:26,091 --> 00:20:28,935 to start a dialogue. 349 00:20:28,994 --> 00:20:32,635 The West looked for some small sign of change. 350 00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:35,770 We needed to try to search out the people who would guide 351 00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:38,610 the Soviet Union after Brezhnev, after Andropov. 352 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:39,671 And looking around, 353 00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:41,979 there were about two or three possible people 354 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,782 in terms of age and seniority. 355 00:20:44,843 --> 00:20:48,518 We dispatched invitations to all three and it was pure chance 356 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:53,222 that Gorbachev was the one who accepted first. 357 00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:55,060 When Gorbachev came to the United Kingdom, 358 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,963 he indeed brought his wife, and that was one of the 359 00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:59,366 first signs that we were dealing with someone quite different. 360 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,597 Soviet leaders very, very rarely travelled 361 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:03,003 with their wives anywhere. 362 00:21:05,864 --> 00:21:07,639 I'm cautiously optimistic. 363 00:21:07,699 --> 00:21:09,576 I like Mr. Gorbachev. 364 00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:11,478 We can do business together. 365 00:21:11,536 --> 00:21:14,517 We both believe in our own political systems. 366 00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:16,246 He firmly believes in his- 367 00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:17,719 I firmly believe in mine. 368 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:20,256 We're never going to change one another! 369 00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:21,950 We'd better hang on for a moment! 370 00:21:22,014 --> 00:21:23,118 [ laughter ] 371 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:30,131 NARRATION: March 1985- Konstantin Chernenko was dead. 372 00:21:31,156 --> 00:21:34,000 At his funeral, world leaders paid their respects to 373 00:21:34,059 --> 00:21:36,665 Mikhail Gorbachev and weighed up the new, 374 00:21:36,728 --> 00:21:39,402 younger man in charge of the Soviet Union. 375 00:21:42,768 --> 00:21:44,475 GEORGE SHULTZ: George Bush was there. 376 00:21:44,536 --> 00:21:47,983 As Vice-President, he was head of our delegation. 377 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:54,082 When we walked out of that meeting, I said to George, 378 00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:56,558 I said, "This is a very different Soviet leader 379 00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:58,288 than any we've seen before!" 380 00:22:00,552 --> 00:22:03,192 NARRATION: Russians too noticed the difference. 381 00:22:03,255 --> 00:22:06,600 [ Raised voices! laughter from crowds & from Gorbachev ] 382 00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:07,659 [speaking Russian ] 383 00:22:07,726 --> 00:22:10,707 Gorbachev was greeted with great enthusiasm! 384 00:22:10,762 --> 00:22:13,368 Everyone cheered in our institute. 385 00:22:13,432 --> 00:22:15,343 We were all pleased that such an energetic 386 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,108 and educated person had become the new Secretary General 387 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:21,379 of our Communist Party. 388 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,680 [speaking Russian ] 389 00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:24,186 We expected a miracle! 390 00:22:24,242 --> 00:22:25,744 We thought he was the Messiah who had 391 00:22:25,811 --> 00:22:28,348 come to introduce change. 392 00:22:28,413 --> 00:22:30,654 [speaking Russian ] 393 00:22:30,716 --> 00:22:31,717 The state of the Soviet Union 394 00:22:31,783 --> 00:22:34,127 and its society could be described very simply with a 395 00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:37,258 phrase used by people across the country, 396 00:22:37,322 --> 00:22:41,566 "We can't go on living like this any longer! " 397 00:22:41,626 --> 00:22:43,435 That applied to everything. 398 00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:45,497 The economy was stagnating, there were shortages 399 00:22:45,564 --> 00:22:49,307 and the quality of goods was very poor. 400 00:22:52,437 --> 00:22:56,544 NARRATION: Gorbachev took over a superpower sick with social breakdown, 401 00:22:56,608 --> 00:22:58,451 corruption in the Communist party - 402 00:22:58,510 --> 00:23:01,081 and alcoholism. 403 00:23:05,016 --> 00:23:08,293 To tackle these ills and to revive a decrepit economy, 404 00:23:08,353 --> 00:23:12,597 Gorbachev called for reconstruction or 'perestroika' 405 00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:16,833 and a new spirit of honesty- 'glasnost'. 406 00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:19,569 [speaking Russian ] 407 00:23:21,032 --> 00:23:24,707 I remember very clearly what Gorbachev said at that time. 408 00:23:27,372 --> 00:23:30,376 He said, "There are two roads we can take. 409 00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:37,554 We can either tighten our belts very, very tightly 410 00:23:37,616 --> 00:23:38,617 and reduce consumption - 411 00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:43,764 which the people will no longer tolerate - 412 00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:49,398 or we can try to defuse international tension and 413 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:51,805 overcome the disagreement between East and West. 414 00:23:55,467 --> 00:23:58,277 And so free up the gigantic sums that are 415 00:23:58,336 --> 00:24:01,874 spent on armaments in the Soviet Union." 416 00:24:06,077 --> 00:24:08,182 NARRATION: In Washington, Reagan had to overcome 417 00:24:08,246 --> 00:24:11,386 objections from inside his own administration before he could 418 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,226 meet the new man in the Kremlin. 419 00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:17,529 I truly believe that Ronald Reagan would have had 420 00:24:17,589 --> 00:24:20,763 the foreign policy battle of his life, 421 00:24:20,826 --> 00:24:23,466 if not the broadly political battle of his life, 422 00:24:23,528 --> 00:24:26,475 starting within his own party and across this country, 423 00:24:26,531 --> 00:24:31,139 if he had tried to reach out to Gorbachev without a seconder 424 00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:34,616 for his point of view. 425 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:39,213 It took Margaret Thatcher to talk first with the 426 00:24:39,277 --> 00:24:41,018 Gorbachev, and then to publicly say, 427 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,526 "This is a man we can deal with!" 428 00:24:44,583 --> 00:24:47,996 NARRATION: Geneva, Switzerland- November 1985. 429 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:54,695 The stage was set for the first super-power summit in six years. 430 00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,933 Reagan too was keen to find out whether he could do business 431 00:24:57,996 --> 00:24:59,441 with Gorbachev. 432 00:25:01,032 --> 00:25:04,502 I felt always that President Reagan was exactly the kind 433 00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:07,778 of man that Russians under normal circumstances 434 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:08,977 would have really liked, 435 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,781 the kind of American that they would really like. 436 00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:12,651 First of all, he's kind of an icon, you know, 437 00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:14,657 he's a cowboy, and they loved that! 438 00:25:14,713 --> 00:25:17,284 And the other was that he was very patriotic; 439 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,226 you really had the sense that he was going to break into 440 00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:21,389 "God Bless America" every time you saw him- 441 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:22,830 and it wasn't corny. 442 00:25:22,888 --> 00:25:24,367 He really believed it. 443 00:25:24,422 --> 00:25:27,426 And the Soviet Union, even some of the most hard 444 00:25:27,492 --> 00:25:31,235 and cynical Soviets, really respected patriotism. 445 00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:35,206 NARRATION: Many people in the West wondered whether 446 00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:37,975 the seventy-four year old Ronald Reagan was up to taking 447 00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:40,380 on the fifty-four year old Mikhail Gorbachev. 448 00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,680 DONALD REGAN: The president's aide came in and said, 449 00:25:44,743 --> 00:25:48,748 "Mr. President, you know, do you wanna put your coat on? " 450 00:25:48,813 --> 00:25:51,487 And he said, "Oh, I'm not sure." 451 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:53,791 And somebody said, "Well, it's very cold outside. 452 00:25:53,852 --> 00:25:56,833 You should really wear a coat." 453 00:25:56,888 --> 00:26:02,395 It was announced that the Soviet cavalcade was at the gates. 454 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:05,066 And Reagan turned and, without putting on his overcoat, 455 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:06,973 walked to the door. 456 00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:09,308 And there was much speculation as to whether this 457 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:12,644 "tired old man", President of the United States, 458 00:26:12,704 --> 00:26:14,775 could keep up with this "wily, energetic, 459 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,547 young, vigorous communist". 460 00:26:17,609 --> 00:26:20,089 And to the amazement of the world, 461 00:26:20,145 --> 00:26:23,592 the old man goes down the steps - lickety split- 462 00:26:23,648 --> 00:26:27,994 meets and greets the Soviet leader who comes out 463 00:26:28,053 --> 00:26:30,966 all bundled up in an overcoat, hat, muffler, 464 00:26:31,022 --> 00:26:37,166 looking as though he were in Iceland rather than Geneva. 465 00:26:37,228 --> 00:26:39,606 NARRATION: The Summit agenda - human rights, 466 00:26:39,664 --> 00:26:41,473 Afghanistan and arms control- 467 00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:44,742 was daunting but the body language was encouraging. 468 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:51,783 The two leaders immediately held a private meeting. 469 00:26:51,843 --> 00:26:54,517 GEORGE SHULTZ: It was scheduled for ten minutes. 470 00:26:54,579 --> 00:26:56,957 Twenty minutes went by, thirty minutes went by, 471 00:26:57,015 --> 00:27:00,724 forty minutes went by and the White House 472 00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:04,790 guy who keeps the schedule going came around to me 473 00:27:04,856 --> 00:27:08,303 and he said, "I should go in and let them know that 474 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,203 they are going overtime." 475 00:27:10,261 --> 00:27:13,731 And I said, "If you do that, you should be fired! 476 00:27:13,798 --> 00:27:18,804 The name of the game, it shows they're getting along!" 477 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:21,942 NARRATION: But were they really getting along? 478 00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:23,486 MIKHAIL GORBACHEV: [speaking Russian ] 479 00:27:23,541 --> 00:27:25,521 I returned at the break to meet my colleagues. 480 00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:28,023 They asked, "What's your impression?" 481 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:32,323 said I have met a caveman- a dinosaur! 482 00:27:35,186 --> 00:27:37,996 The two leaders were divided above all by Reagan's 483 00:27:38,056 --> 00:27:39,729 Strategic Defense initiative- Star Wars. 484 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,034 JOURNALIST: Are you getting along? 485 00:27:45,096 --> 00:27:47,508 You can see that, can't you? 486 00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:49,670 It was a shouting match - 487 00:27:49,734 --> 00:27:54,012 not angry as much as two people, as I said, 488 00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:57,110 passionate in their in their views, 489 00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,815 with diametrically opposed positions. 490 00:27:59,878 --> 00:28:02,256 And this was the occasion in which the President said, 491 00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:05,760 "But you must believe that this is so important 492 00:28:05,817 --> 00:28:07,694 for the safety of the world that I will give you 493 00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:11,529 the technology as we, as we develop it." 494 00:28:11,589 --> 00:28:13,796 And Gorbachev laughed and said, "Mr. President, 495 00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:16,668 surely you understand I can't believe that- 496 00:28:16,728 --> 00:28:18,674 since you won't even give us the technology 497 00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:21,711 for milking machines!" 498 00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:23,712 NARRATION: Mikhail Gorbachev left Geneva 499 00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:26,180 without agreement on his main objective: 500 00:28:26,237 --> 00:28:29,377 curbing the arms race. 501 00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:34,447 But the United States and the Soviet Union were talking again. 502 00:28:42,153 --> 00:28:47,398 One year into the Gorbachev era and the Cold War continued. 503 00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:52,306 The Geneva call for a second summit was repeatedly postponed. 504 00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:56,607 Fears of nuclear war remained - and even increased. 505 00:28:57,535 --> 00:28:59,208 [speaking Russian ] 506 00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:03,878 During that period, we had a lot of ideological training. 507 00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:06,786 We were constantly told about Reagan's speeches, 508 00:29:06,845 --> 00:29:09,849 so we called the US imperialists the "Evil Empire". 509 00:29:12,383 --> 00:29:16,058 We started going out to sea twice as often. 510 00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:18,431 We kept a huge number of submarines in the sea all 511 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:24,065 the time, as close as possible to the US and British coasts. 512 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:26,439 And the more submarines we sent out to sea, 513 00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:30,002 the more you sent out. 514 00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:32,446 This dangerous concentration and proximity 515 00:29:32,504 --> 00:29:36,816 of nuclear submarines could lead to unpredictable consequences. 516 00:29:38,843 --> 00:29:40,720 [ Helicopter] 517 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,816 NARRATION: A nuclear disaster did occur- 518 00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:45,953 but not between the two superpowers. 519 00:29:46,017 --> 00:29:50,261 In April 1986, an explosion ripped apart Number 4 reactor 520 00:29:50,321 --> 00:29:52,426 at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant 521 00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:55,960 in Ukraine north of Kiev. 522 00:29:56,027 --> 00:30:02,137 [ Russian rescue workers chatting ] 523 00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,179 NARRATION: The disaster highlighted the incompetence of the 524 00:30:07,238 --> 00:30:10,549 Soviet system as volunteers started the lethal task 525 00:30:10,608 --> 00:30:15,785 of cleaning up the huge radioactive leak. 526 00:30:15,847 --> 00:30:20,353 LARISA PORKHOROVA: [speaking Russian ] 527 00:30:20,418 --> 00:30:22,864 The firemen who got burnt while helping to extinguish 528 00:30:22,921 --> 00:30:27,768 the blaze were brought to a hospital near where I lived. 529 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,568 At the time, people knew nothing about radiation 530 00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:36,806 and there was a lot of confusion about how it was transmitted. 531 00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:40,748 The firemen died very soon after and when they were buried, 532 00:30:40,805 --> 00:30:43,251 people were scared that the radiation would spread 533 00:30:43,308 --> 00:30:45,652 from their graves. 534 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:55,258 NARRATION: Chernobyl, its surroundings and large areas of Ukraine 535 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,062 and Byelorussia were heavily contaminated 536 00:30:58,122 --> 00:31:00,602 and emptied of their population. 537 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,573 ANATOLY CHERNIAYEV: [speaking Russian ] 538 00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:09,339 Gorbachev knew even before that catastrophe about the 539 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,743 danger of nuclear weapons. 540 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:16,346 That explosion showed that, even without war 541 00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:18,512 and without nuclear missiles, 542 00:31:18,576 --> 00:31:22,615 nuclear power could destroy humankind. 543 00:31:25,283 --> 00:31:28,355 NARRATION: Reykjavik, Iceland - the second Reagan- 544 00:31:28,419 --> 00:31:29,261 Gorbachev summit. 545 00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:34,167 Gorbachev now decided to re-examine Reagan's 546 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:37,229 first ever arms control proposal- 547 00:31:37,295 --> 00:31:38,968 known as the "Zero Option". 548 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:44,973 Reagan had offered not to deploy Cruise and Pershing missiles in 549 00:31:45,036 --> 00:31:49,485 Europe if the Soviets withdrew their SS-20 rockets. 550 00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:53,583 Brezhnev had turned Reagan down flat; 551 00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:59,254 the new American missiles had been stationed in Europe. 552 00:31:59,317 --> 00:32:03,265 Now Gorbachev wanted to out a deal. 553 00:32:03,321 --> 00:32:06,131 ANATOLY CHERNIAYEV: [speaking Russian ] 554 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:09,262 He understood that 'perestroika' and the internal changes were 555 00:32:09,327 --> 00:32:11,500 starting to slow down, 556 00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:14,133 that he had little time on his hands. 557 00:32:14,198 --> 00:32:15,734 He had to decide: 558 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,440 either he could free up resources from the arms race 559 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:21,848 or he'd be forced to look for them elsewhere. 560 00:32:21,906 --> 00:32:23,249 I was with him when he decided to 561 00:32:23,308 --> 00:32:25,185 confront Reagan with the question: 562 00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:27,348 did he or didn't he want an agreement? 563 00:32:27,412 --> 00:32:31,053 Did he or didn't he want disarmament? 564 00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:35,987 NARRATION: Ronald Reagan did want disarmament. 565 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:40,400 But would he give up his Strategic Defense initiative - SDI? 566 00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:42,301 [speaking Russian ] 567 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,399 I said, "OK, let's not even leave a hundred missiles, 568 00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,205 let's abolish them completely 569 00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:50,974 and go for the zero option!" 570 00:32:51,035 --> 00:32:54,881 This came as a shock! Everyone was surprised. 571 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:57,509 Reagan hit the table and said, 572 00:32:57,575 --> 00:32:59,316 "Well, why didn't you say so in the first place! 573 00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:01,584 That's exactly what I wanna do 574 00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:03,421 and if you wanna do away with all the weapons, 575 00:33:03,481 --> 00:33:05,290 I'll agree to do away with all the weapons!" 576 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:07,352 "All weapons? Of course, we'll do away with all weapons!" 577 00:33:07,418 --> 00:33:09,728 "Good! That's great! 578 00:33:09,787 --> 00:33:11,323 Now, now we have an agreement!" 579 00:33:11,389 --> 00:33:15,929 "Yes! But you must confine SDI to the laboratory!" 580 00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:19,232 "No, I won't!" said Reagan. 581 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:22,210 "No way! SDI continues! 582 00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:25,440 I told you that! I am never going to give up SDI!" 583 00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:27,915 [speaking Russian ] 584 00:33:29,107 --> 00:33:32,020 I think that my principal position was 585 00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:34,682 and remains the same. 586 00:33:37,181 --> 00:33:40,526 The nuclear arms race should never be taken into space. 587 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:48,360 It was difficult enough to limit the nuclear arms race on earth. 588 00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:55,240 Gorbachev pressed and pressed and, at one moment, 589 00:33:55,299 --> 00:33:58,542 President Reagan, who was very clear in his mind about this, 590 00:33:58,603 --> 00:34:01,948 wrote a little note and pushed it over at me. 591 00:34:02,006 --> 00:34:03,713 It said, "George, am I right?" 592 00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,984 I read this note and I said "Absolutely!" 593 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:08,718 and passed it back. 594 00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:13,794 NARRATION: The chance to make the most momentous agreement since 595 00:34:13,851 --> 00:34:15,592 the Cold War began - 596 00:34:15,653 --> 00:34:17,633 the elimination by the United States and 597 00:34:17,688 --> 00:34:22,000 the Soviet Union of all but one hundred nuclear weapons each - 598 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:26,099 was lost. 599 00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:29,771 DONALD REGAN: I have never felt so sad for a person in my life 600 00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:32,747 as I did for Ronald Reagan. 601 00:34:32,804 --> 00:34:35,375 He had been at it for two days. 602 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,853 He had come, as he said to me, raising his fingers, 603 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:42,915 "Don, we were that close to an agreement 604 00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:45,586 and he wouldn't give in!" 605 00:34:47,985 --> 00:34:50,124 NARRATION: But what did the Soviets think? 606 00:34:50,188 --> 00:34:52,862 [speaking Russian ] 607 00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:55,928 At first glance, I would say that Reykjavik almost failed 608 00:34:55,993 --> 00:34:59,702 because we were unable to sign an agreement. 609 00:34:59,764 --> 00:35:02,370 But later, as we went to our press conference, 610 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,208 Gorbachev and I spoke in the car 611 00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:08,774 and we agreed that it was not a failure. 612 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,447 And it was at that press conference that Gorbachev 613 00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:15,354 uttered a phrase which became famous, 614 00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:17,916 that it had been "ah intellectual breakthrough" 615 00:35:17,982 --> 00:35:20,121 in relations between the United States 616 00:35:20,184 --> 00:35:22,790 and the Soviet Union. 617 00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:27,697 NARRATION: Ronald Reagan's friend, Margaret Thatcher, 618 00:35:27,758 --> 00:35:30,364 was deeply concerned. 619 00:35:30,428 --> 00:35:33,375 We were frankly caught quite badly by surprise 620 00:35:33,431 --> 00:35:36,537 when we learned that discussions were encompassing 621 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:40,481 the concept of abolishing nuclear weapons altogether. 622 00:35:40,538 --> 00:35:43,018 That would, of course, laid waste the doctrine of nuclear 623 00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:45,816 deterrence and we we would have been left without the 624 00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:47,914 very centre of our strategy. 625 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,515 Luckily, from our point of view, 626 00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:51,787 the Reykjavik agreement never came to anything 627 00:35:51,849 --> 00:35:54,352 because the Russians pushed their luck too far. 628 00:35:56,954 --> 00:36:01,733 NARRATION: Moscow- another foreign aircraft breaches Soviet air space. 629 00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:06,899 Passers-by watched amazed as a Cessna 630 00:36:06,964 --> 00:36:10,537 light aircraft landed in Red Square. 631 00:36:10,601 --> 00:36:14,242 Its pilot was a young West German - Matthias Rust. 632 00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:17,649 [speaking Russian ] 633 00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:21,087 Rust himself was treated extremely humanely. 634 00:36:21,145 --> 00:36:22,920 Imagine if something like this had happened before 635 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,460 Gorbachev's time! 636 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,553 There would have been no dialogue. 637 00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:29,564 He would have simply been lined up against the wall 638 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:31,293 and shot the next day! 639 00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:35,570 [bells] 640 00:36:35,626 --> 00:36:37,128 NARRATION: Gorbachev set Rust free, 641 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:40,039 but used the incursion as an excuse to dismiss 642 00:36:40,097 --> 00:36:42,509 several members of the Soviet high command. 643 00:36:46,103 --> 00:36:49,312 Media, the fax machine, the computer, 644 00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,515 were opening up the USSR. 645 00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:59,023 Gorbachev and the Politburo watched satellite television 646 00:36:59,083 --> 00:37:00,858 in their offices. 647 00:37:00,918 --> 00:37:04,593 After Olympic boycotts, the 1986 Goodwill Games 648 00:37:04,655 --> 00:37:09,570 were seen live both sides of the Iron Curtain. 649 00:37:16,133 --> 00:37:18,443 Soviet television was changing. 650 00:37:18,502 --> 00:37:21,176 It risked a live debate with Margaret Thatcher. 651 00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:26,789 So don't you think that the concept of nuclear deterrence, 652 00:37:26,844 --> 00:37:29,916 in fact, invites the side that believes in it to use 653 00:37:29,981 --> 00:37:32,291 the nuclear weapons in the end, 654 00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:36,662 just to prove this threat from time to time? 655 00:37:36,721 --> 00:37:38,723 Isn't a policy of conventional weapons, 656 00:37:41,225 --> 00:37:44,638 with the terrible bombs raining down, 657 00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:47,642 with the missiles, with the aircraft, 658 00:37:47,698 --> 00:37:52,306 with the submarines, with the torpedoes, with the tanks, 659 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:56,113 with chemical weapons- isn't that based on the 660 00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:58,449 possibility of threat? 661 00:37:58,509 --> 00:38:00,455 [speaking Russian ] 662 00:38:00,511 --> 00:38:03,151 I felt very embarrassed for our journalists. 663 00:38:03,214 --> 00:38:05,751 It was so painful to watch. 664 00:38:05,816 --> 00:38:07,887 At first, I was a little hurt. 665 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:11,559 Then I was roaring with laughter. 666 00:38:11,622 --> 00:38:15,365 It was on this occasion that she made so many fans. 667 00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:18,600 ...And we're saying to anyone who dares to attack us, 668 00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:21,143 "Do not do it, you couldn't win, 669 00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:22,802 the result would be devastating!" 670 00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,778 I think you're saying the same. 671 00:38:24,835 --> 00:38:27,372 [speaking Russian ] 672 00:38:27,438 --> 00:38:29,782 I have to say that Margaret Thatcher was one of the 673 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,116 politicians with whom it was very important 674 00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:35,885 to maintain a dialogue because she was a very strong 675 00:38:35,946 --> 00:38:39,018 personality and a strong politician. 676 00:38:42,186 --> 00:38:44,826 And in spite of us constantly arguing with her at every 677 00:38:44,889 --> 00:38:49,269 meeting we had, we respected each other's position. 678 00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:57,737 NARRATION: Gorbachev's policy of 'Glasnost' brought pop culture 679 00:38:57,802 --> 00:38:59,145 out into the open. 680 00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:04,451 [speaking Russian ] 681 00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:09,116 A new breed of young people was created by our intellectuals - 682 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,093 a breed that rejected all our Soviet past. 683 00:39:12,149 --> 00:39:14,356 This was moral degradation! 684 00:39:14,418 --> 00:39:18,366 Our youth was being turned into human robots! 685 00:39:21,258 --> 00:39:24,603 NARRATION: The Soviet people were being plunged into wrenching change. 686 00:39:27,064 --> 00:39:29,806 VALENTIN VARENNIKOV: [speaking Russian ] 687 00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:34,077 We became particularly worried by the end of 1987. 688 00:39:34,138 --> 00:39:36,880 We saw that the country was not going in the 689 00:39:36,941 --> 00:39:37,942 direction it should. 690 00:39:41,112 --> 00:39:43,991 The situation of the people was getting worse and worse. 691 00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:49,361 The situation of the armed forces was no better. 692 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:52,697 NARRATION: Gorbachev reacted to growing opposition by pressing ahead 693 00:39:52,757 --> 00:39:56,398 with plans to reform the Communist party. 694 00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:58,133 [speaking Russian ] 695 00:40:11,909 --> 00:40:13,820 [speaking Russian ] 696 00:40:13,878 --> 00:40:16,324 The main achievement of Gorbachev's policies was that, 697 00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:18,223 in the space of a year or two, 698 00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:22,822 he made the fear disappear, as if by magic. 699 00:40:22,887 --> 00:40:28,735 People had lost their fear of speaking and acting freely. 700 00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:31,137 [speaking Russian ] 701 00:40:31,195 --> 00:40:33,835 If I hadn't promoted the reforms, 702 00:40:33,898 --> 00:40:37,243 if I hadn't tried to let the people breathe freely, 703 00:40:37,301 --> 00:40:40,510 if I hadn't tried to open the door to glasnost and democracy, 704 00:40:40,571 --> 00:40:45,077 to stir the society, to get it thinking and acting, 705 00:40:45,142 --> 00:40:46,485 I would probably still be in 706 00:40:46,544 --> 00:40:48,751 my Secretary-General's armchair today. 707 00:40:50,915 --> 00:40:52,553 I could have stayed there a lot longer 708 00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:53,993 since I am still quite young! 709 00:40:54,051 --> 00:40:55,894 [LAUGHS] 710 00:41:01,091 --> 00:41:02,866 NARRATION: Washington DC - 711 00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:07,103 Ronald Reagan still pursued his "Star Wars" vision. 712 00:41:07,164 --> 00:41:09,804 The Kremlin now believed that it would never happen 713 00:41:09,867 --> 00:41:15,180 and therefore should not delay agreement on arms reduction. 714 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,685 Gorbachev, in the United States for the first time, 715 00:41:17,741 --> 00:41:20,779 had come to sign an historic treaty. 716 00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:23,724 His visit, seen live on Soviet TV, 717 00:41:23,781 --> 00:41:26,819 enhanced his standing at home- and abroad. 718 00:41:26,884 --> 00:41:27,726 [ Sirens ] 719 00:41:29,954 --> 00:41:34,630 All I'd ever seen of Soviet leaders was Khrushchev 720 00:41:34,692 --> 00:41:37,036 banging his shoe on the table 721 00:41:37,094 --> 00:41:39,904 and some old men in drab uniforms all looking like 722 00:41:39,964 --> 00:41:43,377 Mao Zedong, you know, had no personality 723 00:41:43,434 --> 00:41:45,505 and looked like they were zombies! 724 00:41:45,569 --> 00:41:48,015 But here comes Gorbachev: he's wearing a good, 725 00:41:48,072 --> 00:41:50,814 well-cut Brooks Brothers suit and tie; 726 00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:53,719 he even had on a white shirt! 727 00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:57,782 He was outgoing, he was meeting people, he was joking 728 00:41:57,848 --> 00:42:02,490 and he was getting along with people in Washington DC! 729 00:42:02,553 --> 00:42:05,466 ANNOUNCEMENT BY MASTER OF CEREMONIES: Ladies and gentlemen. 730 00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,901 The President of the United States 731 00:42:07,958 --> 00:42:10,768 and the General-Secretary of the Central Committee 732 00:42:10,828 --> 00:42:14,037 of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union! 733 00:42:14,098 --> 00:42:16,100 [ Applause ] 734 00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:19,147 NARRATION: A Russian saying Reagan had learnt from Suzanne Massie 735 00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:21,809 now seemed appropriate. 736 00:42:21,872 --> 00:42:24,785 "The Russians like to talk in proverbs. 737 00:42:24,842 --> 00:42:26,947 It would be nice for you to know a few." 738 00:42:27,011 --> 00:42:28,456 And I said, "You're an actor- 739 00:42:28,512 --> 00:42:30,082 you can learn them very quickly." 740 00:42:30,147 --> 00:42:31,922 And I gave him this... 741 00:42:31,982 --> 00:42:33,552 Mrs. Reagan was with us at the time, 742 00:42:33,617 --> 00:42:36,928 and she liked this one, and and I said, 743 00:42:36,987 --> 00:42:38,091 "Here it is, and I'll..." 744 00:42:38,155 --> 00:42:41,967 And it was "Doveryai, no proveryai". 745 00:42:42,026 --> 00:42:43,699 Mr. General-Secretary. 746 00:42:43,761 --> 00:42:48,870 Though my pronunciation may give you difficulty, the maxim is: 747 00:42:48,933 --> 00:42:52,745 "Doveryai, no proveryai! Trust but verify!" 748 00:42:52,803 --> 00:42:54,544 [ laughter ] 749 00:42:57,541 --> 00:43:00,078 [speaking Russian ] 750 00:43:00,144 --> 00:43:02,385 You repeat that at every meeting! 751 00:43:02,446 --> 00:43:08,362 [ laughter & then applause] 752 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:13,926 I know of no one else of a leadership stature in the 753 00:43:13,991 --> 00:43:17,404 United States in those days who would have moved forward 754 00:43:17,461 --> 00:43:21,102 as Reagan did, to engage Gorbachev, 755 00:43:21,165 --> 00:43:23,805 to engage the Western Alliance, 756 00:43:23,867 --> 00:43:26,575 to truly lead the Western Alliance, 757 00:43:26,637 --> 00:43:29,117 and to take us through what became, of course, 758 00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:33,087 a very constructive introductory period 759 00:43:33,143 --> 00:43:35,123 to the end of the Cold War. 760 00:43:41,185 --> 00:43:45,224 [ Applause ] 761 00:43:45,289 --> 00:43:47,200 NARRATION: Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev signed 762 00:43:47,257 --> 00:43:49,203 a far reaching agreement. 763 00:43:49,259 --> 00:43:51,466 For the first time, an entire category 764 00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:56,341 of nuclear weapons was to be abolished. 765 00:44:03,073 --> 00:44:05,053 In front of the world's cameras, 766 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:10,081 the Americans destroyed their Cruise and Pershing missiles. 767 00:44:13,984 --> 00:44:17,056 The Soviets dismantled their SS-20s. 768 00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:20,568 In another milestone in reducing Cold War tension, 769 00:44:20,624 --> 00:44:25,334 inspection teams from both sides supervised the destruction. 770 00:44:40,644 --> 00:44:43,022 In his last year as President, Ronald Reagan 771 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,653 paid his first ever visit to the Kremlin. 772 00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:53,124 What Mikhail Gorbachev and the journalists wanted to know was: 773 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:56,000 what did Ronald Reagan think about the Soviet Union now? 774 00:44:56,060 --> 00:44:57,471 REAGAN: ...Oh just fine! 775 00:44:57,528 --> 00:45:00,566 JON SNOW - ITN: Do you still think you're in an Evil Empire, Mr. President? 776 00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:02,633 No. 777 00:45:04,768 --> 00:45:07,248 [speaking Russian ] 778 00:45:07,304 --> 00:45:09,443 He said he wanted to take back his reference to 779 00:45:09,506 --> 00:45:11,850 the Soviet Union as the "Evil Empire". 780 00:45:15,779 --> 00:45:17,918 He found a good place to announce it - 781 00:45:17,981 --> 00:45:20,621 right in the middle of the Kremlin. 782 00:45:20,684 --> 00:45:24,928 But, nevertheless, he said that he was doing it, 783 00:45:24,988 --> 00:45:28,162 not because he was wrong when he initially said it, 784 00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:31,729 but because by 1988 the Soviet Union had come a 785 00:45:31,795 --> 00:45:36,244 long way under the leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev. 786 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:38,302 It had become a different country. 787 00:45:40,537 --> 00:45:42,813 ...We find ourselves standing like this! 788 00:45:42,873 --> 00:45:45,649 NARRATION: Together, the two leaders had seized their chance. 789 00:45:45,709 --> 00:45:46,551 [ Applause ] 790 00:45:49,336 --> 00:45:53,590 Subtitles ripped, converted and adapted by Juan Claudio Epsteyn 791 00:45:54,493 --> 00:45:57,698 E-mail: epsteyn@hotmail.com64669

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