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This programme contains very strong
language and adult humour.
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FLOORBOARDS CREAK
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Well, Stewart, hello.
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I think I'd like to start off
by asking...
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..how you see yourself at this late
juncture of your career?
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I mean, what is it that you exactly
think you're doing?
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I don't know,
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and it's not something that I feel
is good enough to be broadcast.
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I want to stop this now,
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but there's always just enough of an
inducement to carry on
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and there doesn't seem to be any way
of bringing it to a close.
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The series was cancelled.
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I was told by BBC Two Comedy that
they didn't want any more.
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Then another bloke sort of
intervened and said,
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"Oh, maybe you should..."
MUSIC DROWNS HIM OUT
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People of Southend, Essex,
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it's time now to endure the stand-up
comedy of the comedian, Stewart Lee!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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MUSIC STOPS
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Thank you for coming.
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Right. Let's crack on and tell you
what's happening.
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So, there's a number of problems
with this show.
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The main one, right, is that I,
OK...
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I started writing this about 18
months ago, OK?
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And the idea was it was going to be
two hours on the notion
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of the individual in a digitised
free-market economy.
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OK? And I was going to base it all
around this painting,
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which is Caspar David Friedrich's
1818 German romantic masterpiece
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Wanderer Above A Sea Of Fog.
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Now, hopefully you've all had the
e-mails,
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and you've done the reading you'll
need to have done.
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LAUGHTER
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Then I did about a month's work on
that and then the Brexit vote
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happened, right, and there seemed to
an assumption everywhere
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that I should have written some
jokes about Brexit.
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Now, I haven't written any jokes
about Brexit,
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cos I was trying to write a show
that I could keep on the road
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for 18 months and as I didn't know
how Brexit was going to pan out,
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I didn't write any jokes about it in
case I couldn't use them in the show
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and monetise the work I've done,
right?
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So, I haven't written any jokes
about Brexit,
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cos I didn't see the point of
committing to a course of action
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for which there's no logical or
financial justification.
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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
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That's right, clap the things you
agree with!
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LAUGHTER
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Clap, clap, clap! Agree, agree,
agree!
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"Did you see Stewart Lee in
Southend?"
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"Yeah." "Was it funny?"
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"No, but I agreed the fuck out
of it."
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LAUGHTER
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"It's almost as if it were targeted
at my exact social demographic,
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"in a cynical attempt to maintain a
future-proof audience for long-term
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"mortgage repayment purposes."
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Can it be, Southend, that the future
of Britain, Europe, Southend,
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the world, has been altered forever
as a result, it would appear,
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of the ongoing competitive rivalry
of a small group of competitive
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posh men, right? It looks like
that's what's happened.
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When he was a student,
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David Cameron put his penis into a
dead pig's face, didn't he?
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LAUGHTER
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And then to outdo him,
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to do something even more bizarre
and obscene,
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Michael Gove put his penis into a
Daily Mail journalist.
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LAUGHTER
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Imagine doing that!
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Euuurgh!
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Euuuuuurgh!
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EUGH!
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Caustic wit, that, like Toby Young.
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You like it?
LAUGHTER
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And then to outdo him,
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to do something even more
sick-making and wrong,
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Boris Johnson put himself into the
role of Foreign Secretary.
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LAUGHTER
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And if you think it's funny that
Boris Johnson is Foreign Secretary,
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and it is, arguably,
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I guarantee you he's going to be
Prime Minister at some point.
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Theresa May has been put in place,
it's now clear,
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by the steering committee as a sort
of palate cleanser.
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Isn't she? Kind of a...
LAUGHTER
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..a nasty-tasting mouthwash that you
swill around your gums
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before being forced to eat actual
human shit.
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LAUGHTER
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A lot of casualties, weren't there,
in the Brexit shake-up?
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A lot of people, you know, Michael
Gove and Sarah Vine,
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they sort of disappeared initially
but they're back now, aren't they?
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Michael Gove and Sarah Vine.
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And they're currently trying to
reinvent themselves as the
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amusing celebrity political couple
for young millennials so jaded
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they no longer find Neil and
Christine Hamilton
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quite sickening enough.
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LAUGHTER
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Michael Gove and Sarah Vine are the
Neil and Christine Hamilton
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for the Two Girls One Cup
generation.
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LAUGHTER AND GROANING
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HE SNORTS
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Yeah, well... That's a shame.
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So...
LAUGHTER
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OK, here's what's happened, right?
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This is two nights in Southend and,
right, I am aware
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Southend's not really my target
sort of town,
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but this was at a nice Victorian
theatre, the theatre...
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The theatre was available.
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And...
LAUGHTER
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Well, it's just that's normally the
first big laugh of the night,
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that...
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..joke there. With the...
LAUGHTER
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But we've got a lot of people here.
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You've got the sort of target
audience here,
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sort of comedy fans and people that
know about,
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about the politics and stuff.
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And then it's...
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I've put on too many dates in
Southend, basically,
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there's no...
LAUGHTER
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Look at these people, this isn't my
crowd, is it?
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Look at that, Essex.
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Essex filth.
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People that have...
LAUGHTER
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Market traders on the run from
London, aren't they?
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LAUGHTER
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Lost their nerve and come to live in
the white supremacist theme park...
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LAUGHTER
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APPLAUSE
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Should have been a bigger laugh,
that, honestly,
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that Michael Gove joke, it's a...
LAUGHTER
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It's a good joke.
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So, h... W...
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Have people brought friends with
them?
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Cos that often makes it go worse, if
people...
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LAUGHTER
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I know what's happened, people that
used to come and see me
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in the little cellar at the Pavilion
like 30 years ago, you've gone,
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"Oh, he'll never fill the Palace
Theatre Southend for two nights.
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"Let's help him out and we'll buy
four tickets,
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"and we'll bring Alan and Claire,"
and they're...
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LAUGHTER
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They're sitting next to you, your
mates, nudging you and going,
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"Is this him, is this the main one?
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LAUGHTER
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"Is it just this all night?
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"Just a man complaining about
things?"
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Yes, it is, until at least ten
o'clock.
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LAUGHTER
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Don't bring your friends because
it's filled it up
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with the wrong people, hasn't it?
LAUGHTER
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So, this perfectly serviceable stuff
is floundering.
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LAUGHTER
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It's not help... I don't need your
help to fill up.
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This is all sold out.
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LAUGHTER
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If you're going, "No, it isn't,
Stew, there's two there
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"for starters," right, they're...
All the seats are sold, right?
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Everything's sold. What's happened
to me in the last few years,
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and I don't really understand why,
right,
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but I've become popular enough that
the ticket touts buy these seats,
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Stub Hub and that, and they try and
resell them online.
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But I'm not popular enough for
anyone in Southend
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to pay six times over the odds...
LAUGHTER
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Don't imagine that disheartens me,
those empty seats.
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Someone's bought them, right?
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So, I've got the money. It's fine.
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LAUGHTER
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It's actually better cos it
means I've got the money
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but there isn't one of your stupid
friends sitting in them going,
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"What are these nouns, how do
words work?"
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You know...
LAUGHTER
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That's my dream -
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an entirely sold out empty room.
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LAUGHTER
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Which would eliminate the main
problem with all my work,
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which is the public's ongoing
inability to recognise its genius.
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It's...
LAUGHTER
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This is a very difficult time in
history to do stand-up
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and I would appreciate your blanket
support, to be honest.
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It's very... It's very...
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Look, I went back on the road in
September, I did a week
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in Oxford, right? That's Remain.
Then I did Doncaster.
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That's Leave. Then I did Glasgow,
Remain.
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Dartford, Leave. This is about 60-40
in favour of Leave, wasn't it?
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And the Remain-voting cities, now,
they loom out of the map,
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don't they? Like fantasy citadels in
a Tolkien-esque landscape.
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LAUGHTER
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Wondrous walled cities full of
wizards and poets...
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LAUGHTER
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..and people who could understand
data.
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LAUGHTER
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In the middle of a vast, swampy fen,
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with, "Here there be trolls" written
over it.
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LAUGHTER
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Yeah, down here, laughter up there.
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People going, hang on...
"Trolls, Stew?
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"That's not a very fair way, you
know...
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"We are in Leave-voting
Southend-on-Sea.
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"Trolls, that's not a very fair way
to describe the English and Welsh
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"majority that exercised their
democratic right to vote
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"to leave the EU." And it isn't, to
be fair.
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You know, and I think, look, we're
going to leave the EU.
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That is happening. And I think
people have got to put their
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differences behind them now and try
and make it work.
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And I don't know if you can make
massive generalisations about people
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that voted to leave Europe anyway
because people voted to leave Europe
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for all sorts of different reasons,
you know,
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and it wasn't just racists that
voted to leave Europe.
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LAUGHTER
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Cunts did as well, didn't they?
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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
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Stupid fucking cunts.
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LAUGHTER
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Racists...
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LAUGHTER
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..and cunts...
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LAUGHTER
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NASALLY: ..and people with
legitimate anxieties
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about ever-closer political ties to
Europe.
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LAUGHTER
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"Dear Palace Theatre Southend...
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LAUGHTER
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"..please inform the comedian, and I
use that word advisedly..."
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LAUGHTER
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"..Stewart Lee, who I had the
misfortune of being taken along
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"to see by friends last night..."
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LAUGHTER
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"..that I actually voted to leave
Europe,
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"and I am neither a racist nor a
cunt..."
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LAUGHTER
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"..merely someone with genuine
anxieties
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"about ever-closer political ties to
Europe.
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"Yours, A Cunt."
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LAUGHTER
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"Burnham-on-Crouch."
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LAUGHTER
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That's where they live, isn't it?
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Burnham-on-Crouch.
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You know what? I don't know anything
about Burnham-on-Crouch.
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I just drove through it, I thought,
"That'll do for that joke."
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LAUGHTER
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It's the first time it's got a
laugh.
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LAUGHTER
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So...
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Yes, welcome to the music hall.
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So...
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No, but it's difficult. You can't
make massive...
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To be fair, you can't make massive
generalisations about people
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that voted to leave Europe.
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People did vote to leave Europe for
all sorts of different...
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They did, don't snigger away
down there!
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They voted for all... You know, not
everyone that voted to leave Europe
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wanted to see Britain
immediately descend into being
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an unaccountable single party state,
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exploiting people's worst prejudices
to maintain power indefinitely.
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Some people just wanted bendy
bananas, didn't they?
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"Aw, no!
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"I only wanted bendy bananas...
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"and now there's this chaotic
inferno of hate."
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"Ah well, never mind.
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"At least the bananas are all bendy
again, aren't they?
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"Like they always fucking were."
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A lot of people voted to leave
Europe as a protest vote,
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which, I understand that,
I sympathise with it.
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If you spend your life driving
around the country, like me,
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you can see the disparity that would
drive that.
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My best friend of 35 years, Ian,
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actually voted to leave Europe
as a protest vote.
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But I believe it was I who wrote...
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GENTLE LAUGHTER
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Still these people doing the work,
isn't it?
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Down here, there's a...
LAUGHTER
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There's a big laugh there that was
missed, right, and I'm filming this,
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and I would appreciate...
LAUGHTER
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OK, where... What... Where the...
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Do you know what?
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I'm going to try. I'm going to try
and sort this out now,
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for the filming, so...
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Where the laugh should have been
there, right, is when I went...
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SMALL GROUP LAUGHS
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I know you know, it's...
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LAUGHTER
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"I know, sir!"
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LAUGHTER
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The kind of people that like me,
innit?
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MAN LAUGHS
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Yeah, you.
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LAUGHTER
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Cackling sycophants.
LAUGHTER
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The people that are with him hate
him, because he goes to them,
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"Have you not heard of Stewart Lee?
He's amazing, I can't believe it.
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"Probably the best comedian...
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"No, he's not been on Live At The
Apollo, obviously.
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"You know, I think when you've
seen him,
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"you can't really watch other
comedians.
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"It's more like art, really."
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Yeah. The kind of people that like
me, innit?
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Wankers, basically.
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But, you know, without them,
that was...
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OK, the laugh there should have
been when I said...
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"I believe it was I who wrote,"
right?
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What they're laughing at down there,
they're going,
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"Oh, yeah, he's parodying the idea,"
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the perception of myself as a sort
of patronising elitist
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who would quote his own work as a...
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But, you know, you're just going,
"What an arrogant man," aren't you?
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Up there, so it's not...
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But anyway, try and listen in and
close the gaps up
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because we need to...
LAUGHTER
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So, I believe it was I who wrote...
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LAUGHTER
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I don't accept the second laugh.
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I only take the first one, so...
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It was me, it was in the Observer,
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it was a very clever piece.
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David Mitchell's ill a lot,
isn't he?
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So...
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I wrote, "Voting to leave Europe
as a protest vote
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"is a bit like shitting your hotel
bed as a protest against bad service
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"and then realising you now have to
sleep in a shitted bed."
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And my friend Ian, my best friend,
Leave voter, he said to me,
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"Your metaphor doesn't make sense,
Stew."
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He said, "By your own admission,
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"the EU is institutionally flawed
and freedom of movement
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"can lead to exploitation of the
labour market, so in a way,"
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he said, "There was already some
shit in the bed."
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And I said, "Yes, Ian,
but if there's already some shit
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"in the bed, you don't fix that
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"by doing even more shit...
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"..into the already shatted bed."
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And my friend Ian said, "No,
you move into a different bed."
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And I said, "Yes, Ian, but what if
that different bed,
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"instead of some shit,
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"has got Boris Johnson in it?"
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And my friend Ian reluctantly
conceded that he would remain
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in the original shatted bed.
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Now, that joke initially appeared in
the Observer, as I said,
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leading to a lively below-the-line
online debate amongst readers
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as to whether the past participle of
shit was shatted or shitted.
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Very much a key market for me,
those people.
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The left-leaning, scatological
pedant community.
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But the out-of-touch metropolitan
liberal elites,
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they didn't see that Brexit vote
coming, did they?
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The out-of-touch, metropolitan,
liberal elites.
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Who are the metropolitan liberal
elites?
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Well, according to Garry Bushell,
in the Daily Star,
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if you're in my audience, it's you.
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And never has that been less true
than it is here tonight,
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in Southend-on-Sea...
LAUGHTER AND CHEERING
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..in a hive of racists.
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So...
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Who are...
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Who are the metropolitan
liberal elite?
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The metropolitan liberal elite,
I think, are...
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They're the sort of people who
preferred the Labour Party
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in the '90s, when they looked like
a load of coke dealers
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at an advertising agency...
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..as opposed to now,
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when they look like Catweazle and
his army of furious tramps.
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Fighting each other to the death
over the last bottle
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of Diamond White...
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..in a burning skip in a Lidl
car park.
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I live in London, in N16,
north London,
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which is classic out-of-touch
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metropolitan liberal elites'
territory.
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N16, north London.
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This is how out of touch the
metropolitan liberal elite are,
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where I live, in north London.
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The weekend before the vote, the
Brexit vote, a bloke I vaguely know,
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he sent out a tweet and he said,
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"Don't worry about the Brexit vote,"
he said.
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"I've just been out for brunch in a
gastropub in Islington,
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"and absolutely no-one there's
voting to leave."
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So, in a way, they had it coming,
didn't they?
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With their spiralisers...
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Yeah, the courgettes taste the same,
don't they?
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Whatever shape the...
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That tells you a lot about the room,
doesn't it?
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Look, down here, amongst the elite,
the spiraliser jokes,
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they're going, "Ah-ha!"
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And as we spread up there, friends
of the theatre,
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"What is a spiraliser?"
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And then right at the top,
some lone usher,
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"What's a courgette?"
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The joke...
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The joke failing on three levels.
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Three levels, simultaneously.
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Only I can give you this,
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triple simultaneous joke failure,
there.
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So...
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But, er, whatever your line of work,
whatever your politics,
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you're going to be affected by the
Brexit.
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I am a content provider in my job,
and I've spent the best part of
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three decades now travelling
around the country,
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providing stand-up comedy content
from a sort of centre-left,
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liberal position. I've done very
well out of it,
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I'm not going to lie.
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But the problem I've got now is,
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how do you write a one-size-fits-all
stand-up show to tour around
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divided Brexit Britain? It is very
difficult. You know,
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you might have a joke Tuesday night,
you're in Harrogate, Oxford,
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Cambridge, Glasgow -
round of applause.
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Next night, Lincoln - glassed
in the face.
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By the Mayor!
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So, I don't know what this show's
going to be when I finally
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abandon it at the end of the month.
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All I know is, whatever it
ends up being,
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it will always open with the
following sentence...
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So, my multiple British Comedy and
Bafta award-winning BBC Two series
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got cancelled.
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Presumably because it was
unprecedentedly
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critically acclaimed, whilst also
being incredibly cheap to make.
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Although I notice there is money at
the BBC for a proposed remake
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of Are You Being Served?.
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Educate, innovate, entertain.
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APPLAUSE
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Now...
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The weird thing, I think,
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about trying to remake Are You
Being Served? at the moment
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00:19:07,090 --> 00:19:10,070
is that the British retail industry
doesn't really exist any more,
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does it?
The new Are You Being Served?
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should be set in an Amazon
delivery warehouse.
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Mrs Slocombe stands in a massive
shed off the M6...
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00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:26,050
..making incomprehensible cat-based
double entendres...
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..about her own vagina...
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..to loads of poorly-paid
and soon-to-be-deported
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Eastern European workers.
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QUIET LAUGHTER
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No, again, nothing from you on that?
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It's a big...
A big news story, that, the, uh...
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00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,040
Actually, you know what?
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00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,010
That used to be... All last year,
that was a big laugh, that joke,
430
00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:51,070
but it's sort of gone off the boil
since Christmas.
431
00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:53,030
It's not really your fault.
432
00:19:53,030 --> 00:19:55,060
It stopped working, that joke,
and I was, um...
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00:19:56,060 --> 00:19:58,050
I was trying to think why it was.
It was good.
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00:19:58,050 --> 00:20:01,000
All last year, it worked. What it
is, I think, is...
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00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,060
OK, if you think about how stand-up
works, right?
436
00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:08,060
Basically, you either overstate a
perceived truth for comic effect
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00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:12,040
or you overstate a contrary position
for comic effect,
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00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,060
and all stand-up is basically those
two binary positions recombined.
439
00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:20,000
Er... Yeah, that's ruined it for
everyone, hasn't it?
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00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:23,040
That's bankrupted Netflix.
441
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,070
But, um...
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00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:31,040
But... So, why that was working last
year was because the perception was,
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wasn't it, that the Europeans
weren't being told they could stay
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after Brexit, and that was a sort of
negotiating tool for Theresa May
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in Brussels. So, I'd go...
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"..soon-to-be-deported Eastern
European workers" and the audience
447
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:47,030
would go, "Ha-ha, yeah, that's true!
Ha-ha," like that.
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00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:49,010
But then...
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The last gig I did before Christmas
was December 9th,
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00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,010
and I did that joke in London and it
sort of went off half-cocked,
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like tonight. And I thought, well,
why is that?
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There's normally some reason.
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So, I went home and I googled it.
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And what had happened that day, or
the day before - and I didn't know,
455
00:21:04,050 --> 00:21:07,070
but the audience obviously did -
was that in Brussels,
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Theresa May had said that Europeans
could remain after Brexit.
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So, I went, "Soon-to-be-deported
Eastern European workers,"
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00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080
and some people went "Ah-ha!", and
then other people with them went,
459
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,050
"No, she said they can stay now."
460
00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:25,040
"Is that right, yeah?
461
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,060
"Oh, it's not funny, then."
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So...
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That was the last gig
before Christmas.
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The next one was January 2nd and
I thought, "Maybe I should cut
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that line," but I didn't want to,
cos it gets me from the joke
466
00:21:38,010 --> 00:21:43,010
about Amazon into another joke about
charity shops, right?
467
00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:45,060
And it's just a smooth...
468
00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:48,030
Erm... So I thought, I'll hold on
to it, see what happens, you know?
469
00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:49,030
And then...
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So, I did it again, January 2nd.
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And it's a well-constructed joke,
as well.
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I know that, cos it goes...
473
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It goes, "Na na na na na na na na,
na na na na na...
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00:22:00,010 --> 00:22:02,020
"soon-to-be-deported Eastern
European workers."
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00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:04,010
Bang, like that. It's got a hard...
476
00:22:04,010 --> 00:22:06,040
It ends on, or near, a hard
consonant,
477
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,010
which is important, as well.
478
00:22:08,010 --> 00:22:09,050
"Work...workers."
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00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:11,030
Bang, like that.
480
00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:13,090
That's how you... If you look at
Frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr,
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00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:16,010
all their jokes end on hard
consonants.
482
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Bang! And that sort of triggers the
laugh.
483
00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:21,000
With me, it's a little bit
different. I...
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00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,030
I don't always end on a hard
consonant.
485
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Sometimes, I'll put an extra beat in
after it.
486
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And that's why a lot of you are
sitting there going,
487
00:22:28,050 --> 00:22:30,070
"This guy's hilarious, but I don't
know why."
488
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:32,090
And it's because I'm, um...
489
00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:38,020
The comics you go and see normally,
they're sort of in 4/4 time,
490
00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:40,040
but I'm like... It's like a jazz
thing, really.
491
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,030
It could go...
492
00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:44,000
I know where the beat is, but I'm...
493
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,000
It's probably too advanced, what I'm
talking about.
494
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,070
So it's, um...
495
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:52,040
I'm not saying it's better than
them, but it's...
496
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,050
WHISPERS: Yeah, it is.
497
00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:55,060
Well, it's...
498
00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:56,070
But, so...
499
00:22:58,070 --> 00:23:01,090
Anyway, I did it again on
January 2nd,
500
00:23:01,090 --> 00:23:04,040
"Soon-to-be-deported
Eastern European workers," bang!
501
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,030
And there was even less laughs than
three weeks previously.
502
00:23:07,030 --> 00:23:10,010
So, I thought, "Well, what's going
on here?" So, I went and looked on
503
00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:12,020
all the news. What had happened -
I didn't know -
504
00:23:12,020 --> 00:23:15,000
was a few days after Theresa May had
said the Europeans could stay
505
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,010
after Brexit, somebody, a reporter,
said to David Davis,
506
00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:22,060
the negotiator, they said to him,
"So, the Europeans can stay?"
507
00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:25,060
And he went, "Well, we said that in
Brussels, but we can just change it,
508
00:23:25,060 --> 00:23:27,010
"we don't have to abide by it."
509
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,070
So, I think what happened on the
night was, I went,
510
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:33,090
"Soon-to-be-deported Eastern
European workers,"
511
00:23:33,090 --> 00:23:37,010
and somebody went,
"Ah, yeah," and other people went,
512
00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:39,080
"No, Theresa May said
they could stay."
513
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,080
"Oh."
514
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,070
And then someone else went,
"No, David Davis has said it's..."
515
00:23:47,010 --> 00:23:49,090
And in that moment, the laugh had
gone, really.
516
00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:52,000
Because if you think about it...
517
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,010
..laughter's a very instinctive
thing, isn't it?
518
00:23:54,010 --> 00:23:57,050
You just laugh. You don't sort of
canvass opinion about people
519
00:23:57,050 --> 00:23:59,030
around you and then decide...
520
00:24:02,030 --> 00:24:05,010
So, it doesn't work, that joke, but
what I'm saying is, it's not my...
521
00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:06,080
It's not my fault.
522
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,030
It's because there's
not...there's...
523
00:24:10,030 --> 00:24:13,010
We don't know what the Government
position is, so it's...
524
00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:17,040
You can't write a joke in relation
to it when it's not clear...
525
00:24:20,010 --> 00:24:22,070
Do you see what I'm saying? What I'm
saying is, there's not...
526
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:25,010
It's not my... There's not enough...
527
00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:27,080
The problem is, at the moment,
528
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,030
there's not enough clarity in the
negotiating position
529
00:24:30,030 --> 00:24:33,010
for that joke to work.
530
00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:35,080
Do you know, I dread to think how
this is affecting people
531
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,010
in other lines of work, because...
532
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,090
You know, I mean, I'm...
I'm trying to...
533
00:24:44,030 --> 00:24:47,050
I'm just trying to get a joke that
would get me from Amazon
534
00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:51,030
to charity shops, and the lack of
clarity in the Brussels negotiations
535
00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:52,050
means it's... You know,
536
00:24:52,050 --> 00:24:55,090
what if you're trying to order staff
or supplies? It's just...
537
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,080
I'm not trying to make this all
about me.
538
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000
I'm saying it's a bigger...
539
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,080
You know, whatever your politics,
you've got to admit it,
540
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,090
it's a difficult...
541
00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:08,050
I mean, I don't know if there's
enough trained negotiators
542
00:25:08,050 --> 00:25:11,070
in this country for vast swathes of
this show to ever be funny again,
543
00:25:11,070 --> 00:25:12,090
to be honest.
544
00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:18,080
But, anyway, what I'm saying is,
it's... It used to be a big...
545
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,060
..uh, laugh there, but the, the...
546
00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:26,060
..the circumstances haven't so much
changed as they've just
547
00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:30,090
become unclear, so it's very
difficult to know whether to cut it
548
00:25:30,090 --> 00:25:33,050
or rewrite it, because you could
change it, couldn't you?
549
00:25:33,050 --> 00:25:35,030
And then the next thing you know...
550
00:25:35,030 --> 00:25:36,040
You...
HE SIGHS
551
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,010
Who even goes shopping now?
552
00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:52,020
Yeah, see, that feels weird now.
553
00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:55,030
Cos that's... That's supposed to
come off the back of,
554
00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:58,010
"Blah-blah-blah, Amazon - who even
goes shopping now?"
555
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,000
Who even goes shopping now?
556
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,010
Even the...
557
00:26:06,010 --> 00:26:07,010
Ugh, come on!
558
00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:08,010
Even...
559
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:15,020
Yes, we can hear one person clapping
on their own.
560
00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:17,060
You know, that's the terrible thing,
I've got hearing...
561
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:19,070
I've got hearing aids now, the last
couple of years.
562
00:26:19,070 --> 00:26:22,070
So, in the silence, I can hear one
man clapping,
563
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:25,030
and sort of encouraging,
patronising...
564
00:26:25,030 --> 00:26:26,030
"Go on!"
565
00:26:30,010 --> 00:26:32,030
People up there,
the friends of the theatre,
566
00:26:32,030 --> 00:26:35,050
I can hear them going, "He doesn't
seem to be able to do stand-up".
567
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,060
I can, I...
568
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:42,070
I'm very good at it!
569
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:46,080
I can do what you think stand-up is,
this is what you like, isn't it?
570
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,080
CHIRPILY: "Who even goes shopping
now?!
571
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:53,090
"Who goes shopping now?! Ooh!"
572
00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:56,050
"I don't, do you? No, ooh!"
573
00:26:57,090 --> 00:27:00,020
That's what you like, innit?
574
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,080
Who even goes shopping now?
575
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,090
You know...
576
00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:20,010
Even the charity shops are doing
home deliveries, aren't they?
577
00:27:20,010 --> 00:27:21,050
"No." They fuck...!
578
00:27:21,050 --> 00:27:24,000
They fucking are! If I say...
579
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:29,010
"Who even goes shopping?
580
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:31,000
"Even the charity shops are doing
home..."
581
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,050
"They're not." "They are! So..."
582
00:27:32,050 --> 00:27:33,090
They are!
583
00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:36,090
So, if you ever fancy getting 100
copies of the last
584
00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:39,030
Rufus Hound Live stand-up DVD...
585
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,000
..for a pound, 1p each, yeah, you
don't even have to leave the house.
586
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,060
Why? Because the charity shops are
doing home deliveries.
587
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:50,050
"They're not, mate, it's not
cost effective!"
588
00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:52,010
They are!
589
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:53,070
They've got kids on bikes...
590
00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:58,010
They've got drones doing it.
591
00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:59,010
If you...
592
00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:02,010
HE SPLUTTERS
593
00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:04,060
The charity shops are doing home
deliveries!
594
00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:06,000
"They're not!" They are.
595
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,020
So, if you ever fancy getting 100
copies of the same Alan Carr Live
596
00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:13,030
DVD for a pound...
597
00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:15,010
"1p each?!" Yeah!
598
00:28:15,010 --> 00:28:17,090
GASPING: You don't even have
to leave the house...
599
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:21,030
"Why?" The charity shops are doing
home...
600
00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:22,070
You know what?
601
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:24,040
Forget it. Forget the fuck...
602
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,060
I'm going to do this routine.
603
00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:32,060
I'm on high blood pressure
medication. It's not...
604
00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:37,070
It's not safe for me to perform this
routine with the level of commitment
605
00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:40,000
the upper circle of Southend
appear to require!
606
00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:44,090
I don't want to die doing this,
here.
607
00:28:46,090 --> 00:28:49,030
I wouldn't mind dying on stage
if it was like Tommy Cooper.
608
00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:51,040
Do you remember that, older people?
Tommy Cooper,
609
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,030
when he died on stage at the London
Palladium.
610
00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:54,070
And I'm not trying to take the piss.
611
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:57,000
It was an amazing thing
and a brilliant way to go out
612
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,070
for a comedian. 7,000 people in the
room all laughing, and he died,
613
00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:02,030
and they thought it was a joke.
614
00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:04,080
It was an amazing way to go out for
a comedian.
615
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,090
But I wouldn't want to die here in
this gig.
616
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,070
With him, clapping sycophant,
617
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:15,040
on Twitter afterwards, going,
618
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,090
"Uh, I've just seen Stewart Lee's
last gig."
619
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:21,050
"What was it like?" "It was a
struggle for him in many ways.
620
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,090
"It was a shame.
621
00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:26,050
"It was a real... A lot of people
weren't into it.
622
00:29:26,050 --> 00:29:28,010
"But, yeah, it wasn't...
623
00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:29,090
"It...it was not his best.
624
00:29:32,060 --> 00:29:34,070
"He looked ill, actually.
He looked ill.
625
00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:38,010
"He looked like he was struggling,
you know?"
626
00:29:41,030 --> 00:29:44,070
We'll drop the charity shop routine,
we'll move onto the next bit.
627
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,090
There is no charity shop routine.
628
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,080
There is no charity shop routine,
mate.
629
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,020
Every night, I just pretend...
630
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,090
"It's the best bit as well,
what a shame! What a shame..."
631
00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:02,020
Each night is exactly the same.
632
00:30:02,020 --> 00:30:05,070
All the things happen,
they happen the same every night,
633
00:30:05,070 --> 00:30:09,040
and somehow the sort of
cross-section of people that comes
634
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080
to see me, whether I'm in Aberdeen
or Southend,
635
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,050
they seem to be the same.
They are self-replicating.
636
00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:18,070
No place is any different to the
other, and the show goes
637
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:20,080
beat-for-beat the same every night,
638
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,050
and I don't know how long I can
carry on doing that.
639
00:30:24,050 --> 00:30:28,080
Well, I mean, especially with
the state of you,
640
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,050
you're obviously in the worst
physical condition of your life.
641
00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:35,020
Performing at this level with this
degree of enthusiasm...
642
00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:37,040
It's going to kill you, isn't it?
It's going to kill me.
643
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,080
It's going to kill me.And this
will not be one of those memorable
644
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,020
Tommy Cooper...No.
645
00:30:42,020 --> 00:30:47,070
..demises, in front of an audience
of loving, affectionate...
646
00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:51,010
Yeah...happy, contented
laughing people.
647
00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:53,010
Yeah.This will be in front
of your audience.
648
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Well, the worst thing that could
possibly happen is on the verge
649
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,010
of dying on stage and getting
a Tommy-Cooper-like send-off,
650
00:31:02,010 --> 00:31:05,030
I'll somehow manage to shuffle off
and expire in the wings,
651
00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:08,040
which will have no comic or artistic
value whatsoever.
652
00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:11,060
All I'm saying is this, right?
653
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:15,050
All those '90s and noughties TV
panel show, Live At The Apollo,
654
00:31:15,050 --> 00:31:19,040
Netflix comedians, right? You can
get all their live DVDs,
655
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,000
second-hand, on the internet,
on Amazon, on eBay, for 1p each.
656
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,010
All of them,
657
00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:26,020
1p!
658
00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:30,070
But the cheapest that you can get...
659
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:32,020
LAUGHTER
660
00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:34,030
Well, we'll see how funny it is,
won't we, madam?
661
00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:35,060
When we hear...
662
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:38,020
When we hear how much it is.
663
00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:44,010
The cheapest that you can get my
2004 live DVD for,
664
00:31:44,010 --> 00:31:47,030
second-hand on the internet,
how much do you think it is, madam?
665
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040
This is a quick little exchange,
really, that...
666
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,030
..speeds the evening along.
667
00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:54,050
�5?
668
00:31:57,090 --> 00:32:01,030
Have you seen this before? Have you
tried to fuck this up on purpose?
669
00:32:04,030 --> 00:32:06,090
For God's sake, tonight of all
the...
670
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,090
It's not �5, no.
671
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:13,040
You panicked, didn't you?
672
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,030
I could see...
673
00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:16,040
�5...
674
00:32:17,050 --> 00:32:18,090
It's �3.67.
675
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:19,090
Now...
676
00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:25,090
Right, what's happened the other...
677
00:32:27,010 --> 00:32:31,010
..208 nights of this tour -
it's �3.67, my DVD.
678
00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:34,000
I go to the person there, I say,
"How much do you think it is?"
679
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,010
They go, "50p," or "�1," or "10p,"
or something,
680
00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:39,050
which is less than �3.67.
681
00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:42,090
And then I say, "�3.67."
682
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:45,020
And there's a kind of mock heroic
triumph in the room,
683
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:46,090
people going, "Yes! Aah!
684
00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:48,070
"More than they said, yeah!"
685
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:51,050
But what's happened tonight,
you weren't to know, were you?
686
00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:56,070
It's very kind of you to think that
it would be five...
687
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:58,050
What's your name, madam?
688
00:32:58,050 --> 00:32:59,090
What is it?
689
00:32:59,090 --> 00:33:02,000
No, don't shake your head,
you have a name!
690
00:33:03,020 --> 00:33:05,030
What is it?
691
00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:07,030
Annette.Annette, yeah.
692
00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:08,070
Annette, very kindly, has...
693
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,070
..massively overestimated the...
694
00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:16,020
She's gone �5, I've gone �3.67.
695
00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,090
And where there's normally joy,
696
00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:20,060
the people of Southend are already
struggling, look at them.
697
00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:22,050
They've gone...
698
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:24,050
They've gone, "Ooh, that's awkward,
isn't it?
699
00:33:24,050 --> 00:33:28,080
"Because it's less.
It's much less than he said."
700
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,020
So, that's ruined.
701
00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:31,050
But...
702
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:34,000
That's normally another bit where
there's a bit of a lift,
703
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,070
but all those bits tonight are
being sabotaged, so that's good.
704
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:38,070
But, um...
705
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:44,040
So, er...
706
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,050
This is...
707
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:50,010
I'll be really amazed if this makes
the edit, but if it does,
708
00:33:50,010 --> 00:33:52,050
then that's the camera to get it on
there.
709
00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:53,050
So...
710
00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:57,010
It's �3.67, right?
711
00:33:57,010 --> 00:34:01,000
Which is still... Yes, that's right,
cry and blow your nose.
712
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000
It's still...
713
00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:07,070
It's still 367 times more than
anybody else's
714
00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:10,050
second-hand live DVD, right?
715
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:12,000
But that would have been...
716
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,030
You could have cheered a little bit
there, couldn't you?
717
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:16,090
And recovered from the damage that
your representative
718
00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:18,070
has done to the evening.
719
00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:21,030
But instead, Brexit-vague Southend
have sat there and thought,
720
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:23,040
"Let's make this bloke suffer
and then..."
721
00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:29,010
It's 367 times more than anybody
else's, right?
722
00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:30,090
Which is... You know what?
CHEERING
723
00:34:30,090 --> 00:34:32,070
Don't patronise me, it's too late.
724
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,070
LAUGHTER
725
00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:34,090
No, forget it!
726
00:34:34,090 --> 00:34:37,030
The moment...
WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE
727
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:39,040
Right, you can clap!
728
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,090
You can clap and cheer as
sarcastically as you like, Southend!
729
00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:50,090
But it doesn't change the fact
that I am the �3.67 king
730
00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:53,010
of the obsolete physical media
market, right?
731
00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:56,030
But there's a reason for that,
and it's this, OK?
732
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:58,060
I always sell DVDs and books
after the gig,
733
00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:00,070
I probably won't bother tonight,
to be honest,
734
00:35:00,070 --> 00:35:02,010
but I normally do.
735
00:35:02,010 --> 00:35:07,090
And the cheapest that I can get the
2004 live DVD at source, new,
736
00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:11,080
from the warehouse in Colchester
is �3.50, OK?
737
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,030
So, I have to put it on
for ten quid, right?
738
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:17,060
Because I have to give 10% to 25%
commission to the venue,
739
00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:21,020
that's �2.50 off the ten,
15% to the promoters,
740
00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:24,010
that's another �1.50 off the ten,
that's four gone.
741
00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:27,080
Another 15% to the agent,
that's �1.50,
742
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,060
that's �5.50 gone off the ten.
743
00:35:30,060 --> 00:35:34,020
�3.50 for the DVD in
the first place.
744
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:37,040
That's �9 gone off the ten.
745
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,020
This doesn't normally get laughs,
746
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:41,030
but I'm happy to take whatever comes
747
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:45,000
from the Southend Accountants'
Theatre Trip up there at the back!
748
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,040
"This is the bit I told you about.
749
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,050
"It's hilarious!
750
00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:55,030
"Because presumably,
he's self-employed, schedule D,
751
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:58,090
"but he doesn't seem to have
realised that he could put the
752
00:35:58,090 --> 00:36:03,000
"initial DVD purchase through as a
tax-deductible business..."
753
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,010
I do, right?
754
00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:07,070
Why is this going better than
proper jokes?
755
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:10,020
Just... Right, I do know that!
756
00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:11,020
But I put the...
757
00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:14,050
I put it through at the end of each
quarter,
758
00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:16,060
not with the balance of each...
759
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:19,010
It doesn't make any difference,
as long as you...
760
00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:22,090
Who are you?! Who's come to this?!
761
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,000
"Politics, words, we're not
interested in that.
762
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,010
"What we like is numbers being
added up!"
763
00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:35,010
So, you've got a pound...
764
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:39,030
When I did this tonight, I thought,
"I hope it's a really unique night
765
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:40,030
"that we're filming,"
766
00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:42,010
and it fucking is!
767
00:36:42,010 --> 00:36:43,040
Right?
768
00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:48,050
So, you've got �1 left, right?
769
00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:49,080
That's taxed, isn't it?
770
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:55,070
Business rates... 22%, so you've got
78p left from the ten.
771
00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:57,090
Then there's other costs -
transport, storage.
772
00:36:57,090 --> 00:37:01,040
So, basically, a �3.50 DVD
sold for ten quid,
773
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,030
I'm normally looking at about 60p,
70p profit, right?
774
00:37:04,030 --> 00:37:07,070
So, what I do, OK? I can never sleep
after gigs, right,
775
00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:10,030
because of the crazed adrenaline
rush that is surge...
776
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:16,090
Come on, look at what you've seen me
dealing with!
777
00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:19,040
I've got a woman here, right,
normally people go for 10p,
778
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,000
that works. She said �5, it's the
highest anyone's ever said
779
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,010
in 18 months.
780
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:27,070
But it didn't floor me, did it?
781
00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:29,050
No. I've rolled with it.
782
00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:31,050
I came, I went, "No."
783
00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:32,090
It's not...
784
00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:35,000
I did! You couldn't do this.
785
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,030
If you were to do this, you'd cry.
786
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:40,060
You couldn't do this. And that's why
I'm up here like a god, right?
787
00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:45,020
And you're down there in the dark,
like pigs in an Essex ditch.
788
00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:55,080
So, I'm awake, so what I do, I can't
sleep, I go on the internet,
789
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,010
I go on Amazon, I go on eBay,
drunk, right?
790
00:37:58,010 --> 00:38:03,010
And first of all, I buy loads
of 1970s Turkish funk albums, right?
791
00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,090
Yeah - Mogollar, Selda,
Erkin Koray - the usual names.
792
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:12,070
"Bunalim, Stew?" No, too metal.
793
00:38:12,070 --> 00:38:14,020
So...
794
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:18,030
What do you want?
795
00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:19,090
So...
796
00:38:19,090 --> 00:38:22,080
"I love the adding up and the
Turkish funk stuff.
797
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,060
"Other than that..."
SCATTERED APPLAUSE
798
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:27,030
It's getting applause,
the Turkish funk stuff.
799
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:29,000
Yeah, I'm bang on the meme.
800
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,050
So...
801
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:33,050
Does that exist, that phrase?
Have I invented it, what's going on?
802
00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:34,060
So...
803
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,010
When...
804
00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:41,010
When I've...
805
00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:43,090
When I've bought all the Turkish
funk, right,
806
00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:48,020
I start looking around for that 2004
live DVD, and if I see it anywhere
807
00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:50,050
second-hand for less than �3.50 -
808
00:38:50,050 --> 00:38:53,070
�3.40, �3.35 -
809
00:38:53,070 --> 00:38:55,080
I buy it,
810
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,050
slip it in with the new ones...
811
00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:02,030
I'm looking at an extra
10 or 15 pence profit.
812
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:07,030
I tell you what, tonight,
for that bit,
813
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:10,050
it's good to be out of London and be
in Essex, because in London,
814
00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:13,000
the sort of people that live there
now, when I do that, they go,
815
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,040
"Huh, 15 pence?"
But all you lot, ex...
816
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:20,070
Expatriate Cockney market trading,
aren't you?
817
00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:22,080
"15p? That's a good return on that!
818
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:27,080
"We've left London now."
819
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:31,000
I know why.
820
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,020
Sometimes you get lucky,
821
00:39:35,020 --> 00:39:37,070
there's a company on the internet
called Music Magpie.
822
00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:40,040
They had 20 copies of it for
�3.40 each, right?
823
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,070
And I bought them all, OK?
824
00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:44,070
And the bloke at Music Magpie -
Rick, he's called -
825
00:39:44,070 --> 00:39:47,010
he sent me a sarcastic note
with the order, he put,
826
00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:48,020
"How sad", he put,
827
00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:52,010
"How sad, buying your own DVDs
second-hand on the internet."
828
00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:55,050
But it isn't sad, is it? Because I
made two quid on that, clear profit.
829
00:39:58,070 --> 00:40:02,050
So my DVDs are �3.67,
that is 367 times, Annette,
830
00:40:02,050 --> 00:40:06,020
more than any other
stand-up's second-hand DVD live.
831
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:08,050
But, to be fair,
there's a reason for that.
832
00:40:08,050 --> 00:40:10,010
I'm like a corrupt banker, aren't I?
833
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:13,010
I've kind of manipulated the market
to drive up the perception
834
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:15,080
of my commodity in the marketplace,
you know?
835
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,090
To be fair to Jimmy Carr,
for example -
836
00:40:17,090 --> 00:40:21,060
whose DVDs are all 1p second-hand
on the internet -
837
00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:23,090
He's not awake, is he, at two
o'clock in the morning
838
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:26,030
buying his own DVDs
second-hand on Amazon
839
00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:29,020
to resell off a trestle table
in Southend-on-Sea.
840
00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:30,030
He's not doing that.
841
00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:36,030
Imagine if he was? Imagine if Jimmy
Carr was on Amazon buying something
842
00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:38,030
that he never paid the tax on what
he got paid
843
00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:40,030
for doing it in the first place,
844
00:40:40,030 --> 00:40:43,060
from a company that don't pay any
of their tax either.
845
00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:47,050
Is it possible to imagine a more
tax-avoiding transaction
846
00:40:47,050 --> 00:40:52,010
than Jimmy Carr buying a Jimmy Carr
DVD on Amazon?
847
00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:56,070
Only if he found it using Google on
a Vodafone phone
848
00:40:56,070 --> 00:41:00,050
whilst paying Gary Barlow to spit
cold Starbucks coffee
849
00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:02,010
into his splayed anus...
850
00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:08,010
..while the cast of Mrs Brown's Boys
stand around singing
851
00:41:08,010 --> 00:41:11,090
I Still Haven't Found What
I'm Looking For.
852
00:41:11,090 --> 00:41:15,050
There's not a single taxable
juncture in the entire transaction!
853
00:41:19,090 --> 00:41:21,080
Now, if you've been
looking carefully,
854
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,020
you'll notice the whole of this set
tonight is actually made entirely
855
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:28,070
out of other stand-up comedian's
second-hand live DVDs.
856
00:41:29,090 --> 00:41:31,070
I wasn't trying to make
fun of anyone,
857
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:36,010
what I wanted to do was get all the
DVDs and pile them up
858
00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:40,000
and then hang hessian sacking over
them so they looked like
859
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,090
the rocks and cliffs in
that painting.
860
00:41:41,090 --> 00:41:44,040
But I didn't do that idea
in the end,
861
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,060
but I don't want anyone to think I'm
trying to make fun of the other
862
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:49,090
comedians by making this set out
of their DVDs.
863
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:51,010
I'm not.
864
00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:54,020
It's just that other comedians'
live DVDs are currently
865
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:56,040
the cheapest building material
available.
866
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,040
APPLAUSE
867
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,090
Of course, what I hadn't factored in
is that it's actually quite
868
00:42:08,090 --> 00:42:12,060
depressing to look at this
every night for a year.
869
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:15,050
You know, it is,
because I am a comedian, right?
870
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:18,070
And, you know, I got all of these
DVDs for 1p online,
871
00:42:18,070 --> 00:42:22,040
or 50p in that CEX exchange place.
872
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,060
And of course, what is sad is,
873
00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:26,030
there are actually lots of really
good ones here.
874
00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:28,030
And it's very depressing...
875
00:42:28,030 --> 00:42:34,010
..to think of them just becoming a
sort of pile of worthless landfill.
876
00:43:16,030 --> 00:43:18,030
No, but it is sad,
because...because...
877
00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:23,060
Well, this was a big deal,
wasn't it?
878
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:27,010
The Christmas comedy DVD market and
that's...that's over.
879
00:43:27,010 --> 00:43:29,080
And everything's in collapse,
you know?
880
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,010
The Government are trying to close
down the BBC.
881
00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:34,010
I don't know how that'll
affect comedy.
882
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:36,070
Actually, after the second series
I did for the BBC,
883
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:40,070
I got offered more money by Sky to
go and do two series for them.
884
00:43:40,070 --> 00:43:42,040
But I didn't.
885
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,090
I didn't go to Sky and I stayed at
the BBC for less money.
886
00:43:44,090 --> 00:43:48,010
And I've not talked about this
on stage before.
887
00:43:51,010 --> 00:43:52,090
All right, I'll tell you why.
888
00:43:52,090 --> 00:43:57,010
It's because I think if you make an
ethical choice about something,
889
00:43:57,010 --> 00:44:00,030
it's a private matter and you
shouldn't go around crowing...
890
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,030
..crowing it from the rooftops
to try and engineer the perception
891
00:44:04,030 --> 00:44:06,090
of yourself as some kind
of national cake-baking treasure.
892
00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:09,080
Know what I mean?
893
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,000
But I started talking about it
on stage last year.
894
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,030
And in the summer, Sky's lawyers
sent me a very threatening
895
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:21,050
cease-and-desist letter saying
896
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:23,090
I wasn't to say Sky had
offered me more money than the BBC,
897
00:44:23,090 --> 00:44:26,060
because they hadn't. And I went
through the paperwork, and I went,
898
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:29,050
"There's the offer, there's the
minutes of the meeting." So they...
899
00:44:29,050 --> 00:44:32,030
They backed off. But that gives you
an indication of the extent to which
900
00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:34,010
I'm a pariah in the comedy business,
901
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:36,070
that a broadcaster would take legal
action to deny
902
00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:39,000
ever having wanted to work with me.
903
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:45,060
But there's all sorts of reasons not
to appear on Rupert Murdoch's
904
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:47,010
evil Sky and one of them, of course,
905
00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:49,070
is that I know it's not really me
they want.
906
00:44:49,070 --> 00:44:53,020
They don't want me. They want you
to watch Sky because I'm on it.
907
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:56,070
They want you, the ABC1,
going-to-the-theatre,
908
00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:58,050
reading sort of people,
909
00:44:58,050 --> 00:45:00,080
to start watching Sky so
they can advertise
910
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,000
the sorts of things that you buy.
911
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,050
Like cappuccinos and spiralisers
and courgettes.
912
00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:11,080
If you watch Sky at the moment,
all the advertising is for knives,
913
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,010
masking tape and bin bags.
914
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:22,040
You know, I wish I had gone to Sky,
for the money, right, but I can't.
915
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,090
Because if you are a sort of broadly
liberal comedian and you appear
916
00:45:25,090 --> 00:45:27,050
on Rupert Murdoch's evil Sky,
917
00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:31,030
my concern is you're going to lose
your core audience,
918
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:34,090
which tonight is about seven
people down there in Southend.
919
00:45:36,090 --> 00:45:39,010
Alan Partridge,
the fictional character,
920
00:45:39,010 --> 00:45:42,080
he can appear on Rupert Murdoch's
evil Sky because that is exactly the
921
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,000
kind of channel Alan Partridge would
appear on if he was real, isn't it?
922
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,030
You know, if you were watching
Sky News and Eamonn Holmes came on
923
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:52,050
and then Kay Burley and then
Alan Partridge you'd go,
924
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:55,030
"Ooh, Sky have raised the quality of
their journalism."
925
00:45:57,070 --> 00:46:00,080
And I wish I could appear on Sky for
the money, I wish I could, right,
926
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,050
but I can't.
927
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:05,030
Because the character of Stewart Lee
that I've created...
928
00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:12,060
..would have smug, liberal, moral
objections to appearing on Sky.
929
00:46:14,050 --> 00:46:16,080
And I'm coming to hate the character
of Stewart Lee.
930
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,090
I'm coming to despise
the character of Stewart Lee
931
00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:24,060
in the same way as
Rod Hull came to hate Emu.
932
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080
I even hate this,
what I'm saying now.
933
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:33,090
Pretentious, meta-textual,
self-aware shit.
934
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,060
"What's wrong with proper jokes?"
935
00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:40,080
That's what I say to me.
936
00:46:47,010 --> 00:46:50,050
You know, Russell Howard's not
involved in an ongoing interrogation
937
00:46:50,050 --> 00:46:52,020
of the divided self, is he?
938
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,040
No, he's going...
939
00:47:37,070 --> 00:47:39,010
"We've all done it.
940
00:47:45,090 --> 00:47:48,050
"You've run out of toilet roll,
941
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:49,080
"you use a sock."
942
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000
His own clothing.
943
00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:03,010
For excrement!
944
00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:07,030
What is that? Observational comedy
from a Victorian mental hospital?
945
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,070
"We've all done it. You wake up,
don't you, about six in the morning?
946
00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:18,060
" 'Get up!' Then about 11 o'clock,
the gentry come round, don't they,
947
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:21,000
"in their top hats, smashing you
in the face with canes,
948
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,060
"then in the afternoon, you're
chained to a bed and spat at.
949
00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:25,030
"You try and escape.
We've all done it."
950
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:29,010
I'd go and see that.
951
00:48:34,060 --> 00:48:39,050
All the young, 20-something
comedians, in their 20s.
952
00:48:41,020 --> 00:48:45,080
They all complain to me about me
doing a joke about Russell Howard,
953
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,030
all the 20-somethings.
954
00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:50,040
They go,
955
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,090
DRONING VOICE: "Aw, mate...
956
00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:59,050
"Ma-a-a-ate!
957
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,070
"Aww-w!
958
00:49:05,020 --> 00:49:08,010
"Ma-a-a-a-a-ate!
959
00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:10,070
"Aw, mate!
960
00:49:10,070 --> 00:49:12,080
"Aaw!
961
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,030
"Aw, mate!
962
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:16,040
"Aaw!
963
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,020
"A-A-Aw, ma-a-a-a-ate.
964
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:23,090
"Mate, no!
965
00:49:23,090 --> 00:49:24,090
"Aw...
966
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:30,040
"Aw, mate, no! No!
967
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,070
"No, mate! Aw!
968
00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:36,030
"Mate, no!
969
00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:39,010
"Mate, what have you...?
970
00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:41,010
"Aw, mate.
971
00:49:41,010 --> 00:49:44,070
"What you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
972
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,020
"Aw, mate.
973
00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:52,070
"Mate?
974
00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:55,090
"Hey, mate. Mate. Ma-a-a-ate.
975
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,090
"Mate, why you having
a go at Russell, mate?"
976
00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:08,010
"Mate, what...?
Wha-a-a-a-a...?
977
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,010
"Mate, what you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
978
00:50:16,030 --> 00:50:19,030
"Mate, what you having a go at
Russell Howard for? Aaahhh!
979
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:20,050
"A-A-A-Ah!
980
00:50:22,070 --> 00:50:27,010
"Mate, what you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
981
00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:29,050
"Mate, what you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
982
00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:31,000
"Mate. Mate.
983
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,010
"Mate, mate.
984
00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:35,000
"Mate, what...?
985
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
"Whuuuhhhh...
986
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,030
"Uhhh!
987
00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:42,090
"What you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
988
00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:44,060
"Mate?
989
00:50:44,060 --> 00:50:47,030
"Mate? What you having...?
Whhuuuhhh...
990
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:50,000
"What you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
991
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,050
"Mate, what you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?
992
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,060
"What you having a go at
whaa...whuuh...maaaa?
993
00:50:59,030 --> 00:51:02,010
"What you having a go at
Russell Howard for, mate?"
994
00:51:04,070 --> 00:51:06,050
They all stick up for him.
995
00:51:08,050 --> 00:51:09,080
It's not even fair.
996
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,000
I did one joke about Russell Howard,
about ten years ago, and that's all.
997
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,010
One joke.
998
00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:17,080
Admittedly, it was 58 minutes long.
999
00:51:27,070 --> 00:51:28,080
It wasn't even about him.
1000
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,060
It was about a press release about
him, which was stupid, right?
1001
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:33,000
I liked him, to be honest.
1002
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,010
I hate him now, though.
1003
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,060
It's not even his fault,
it's my fault entirely, right?
1004
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:42,070
And why I hate Russell Howard
is this, OK?
1005
00:51:42,070 --> 00:51:44,010
Now, this is...
1006
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,040
Oh, right. OK, this is the
last sort of seven, eight-minute bit
1007
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,020
of the first half. This...
1008
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:55,050
This ends on a sentence that
normally gets such a big laugh
1009
00:51:55,050 --> 00:51:58,030
that I don't even have
to wrap up the show.
1010
00:51:58,030 --> 00:52:01,090
I just walk off while people are
still going, "Ha-ha-ha!"
1011
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,040
That won't happen tonight,
and I think we know why.
1012
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,070
It's because, God bless them, loads
of people have come along tonight.
1013
00:52:10,070 --> 00:52:13,000
They've thought,
"Oh, something's come to Southend,
1014
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000
"let's go and see it."
1015
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:21,000
And this joke relies on people
having seen me before or knowing
1016
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,040
something about me. I'd like to drop
this bit, to be honest, but I can't.
1017
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,050
But it's, um...
1018
00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:29,070
It looks very relaxed, but actually
it's a very tightly structured show
1019
00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:32,020
and I can't drop this bit cos
there's stuff in it that sets up
1020
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:34,010
things in the second half,
so I have to do it.
1021
00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:36,050
So we'll just get through it and
then we'll have a...
1022
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,000
Right, OK. The reason I hate
Russell Howard is this, OK?
1023
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,070
It's because my family, right,
they're very nice, OK?
1024
00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:49,040
But they don't... I love them, but
they don't read the sort of papers
1025
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,080
where I get good reviews.
1026
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,090
They don't know the sort of people
that would like me.
1027
00:52:53,090 --> 00:52:56,060
They're like a lot of the people
that have come tonight.
1028
00:52:56,060 --> 00:52:59,040
And, um...
1029
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,060
If they ever see a bit of film of me
on YouTube or something like that,
1030
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:04,050
they think it's so bad, right,
what I do,
1031
00:53:04,050 --> 00:53:07,010
that they can't believe I can
actually make a living out of this,
1032
00:53:07,010 --> 00:53:09,060
and in fact, they don't believe it.
1033
00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:11,040
So when they talk to me
about stand-up,
1034
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,000
they talk to me about it in a sort
of sympathetic tone of voice.
1035
00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:19,000
As if they think I'm a
delusional mad man,
1036
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,080
who imagines that
he's a stand-up comedian,
1037
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080
and if I was to find out
that I wasn't,
1038
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,060
I would have a mental breakdown.
1039
00:53:27,060 --> 00:53:29,090
So they sort of ring me up
and they go, "Hello.
1040
00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:34,040
"And how is your
stand-up comedy going?"
1041
00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:38,040
"Cos that's your job, isn't it?
1042
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,000
"And you do that, don't you, for
your work, in your actual life?"
1043
00:53:45,050 --> 00:53:47,090
I'm going, "Yeah, it's fine,
I'm just coming to the end
1044
00:53:47,090 --> 00:53:49,050
"of an 18-month tour, actually."
1045
00:53:49,050 --> 00:53:51,010
"I'm sure you are.
1046
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,000
"Been going all round, haven't you,
1047
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040
"and people are all laughing and
no-one's walking out?"
1048
00:54:02,090 --> 00:54:05,000
The worst one is my brother-in-law,
right?
1049
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,070
He's a really nice bloke,
he's 57 and I really like him.
1050
00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:11,030
I'm very lucky to have him,
but we're different sort of people.
1051
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:13,090
He's the kind of bloke who'll ring
me up and he'll go,
1052
00:54:13,090 --> 00:54:16,050
"Yeah, I saw you on TV last night
having a go at Farage.
1053
00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:18,040
"Quite badly misjudged, I thought."
1054
00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:25,030
But he's really great, and, erm...
1055
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:27,070
No, he is! I really...
No, I do, I really like him.
1056
00:54:27,070 --> 00:54:30,070
But he came to see me once about
three years ago in London
1057
00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:33,030
and it was a proper, normal...
1058
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:35,020
Right, this is
a five-star show, right?
1059
00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:37,020
I'm just letting you know.
1060
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:41,010
This has had across-the-board,
five-star reviews, right?
1061
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:43,090
So I'm just letting you know that
if there's a problem
1062
00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:46,050
in this room tonight, it's not on
this side of the stage,
1063
00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:48,000
that's all I'm saying, right?
1064
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,040
OK? A five-star show, all right?
1065
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,040
It doesn't feel like it tonight,
does it?
1066
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,050
It feels like a four with occasional
lurches down towards a three,
1067
00:54:55,050 --> 00:54:56,060
but it is a five.
1068
00:54:57,090 --> 00:55:01,030
Anyway, my brother-in-law came to
see me in London, a proper,
1069
00:55:01,030 --> 00:55:05,030
normal, five-star night, not like
tonight, full of wilful obstruction,
1070
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:07,010
indifference
and people wandering out.
1071
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:10,080
It was a normal, five-star...
1072
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,070
But he just didn't like it,
you know. And he, afterwards,
1073
00:55:13,070 --> 00:55:16,080
he looked so ashamed and embarrassed
he couldn't meet my eye.
1074
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,010
I thought he was going to be sick
in the foyer.
1075
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:22,070
But to be fair to him,
my brother-in-law,
1076
00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:25,060
he has no frame of reference
whatsoever for this, right?
1077
00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:29,000
Cos he's only ever seen one other
thing live in his whole life
1078
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:35,010
and that was, in 1986, at Lancaster
Polytechnic, he saw Deacon Blue.
1079
00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:43,050
And I can see him, with his mate in
the room, he's going,
1080
00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:46,050
"What is this? It's nothing like
Deacon Blue, what is it?"
1081
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,020
Anyway, he rings me up,
1082
00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:53,030
"Hello, how's your comedy?
That's your work, isn't it?"
1083
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:54,070
I'm going, "Yeah, it's fine."
1084
00:55:54,070 --> 00:55:56,080
I said to him,
"You sound in a good mood."
1085
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,050
He said, "I am in a good mood."
1086
00:55:58,050 --> 00:56:00,050
I said, "Why?"
And he said, "Well," he said,
1087
00:56:00,050 --> 00:56:02,010
"we've been very lucky," he said.
1088
00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:07,050
"We've managed to secure
two tickets, 18 months in advance,
1089
00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:11,070
"to the sold-out Royal Albert Hall
run of our favourite
1090
00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:15,000
"TV stand-up comedian of all time,
Russell Howard."
1091
00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:20,060
And I went, "Oh."
1092
00:56:21,090 --> 00:56:25,000
And he said, "You sound surprised."
And I went, "Well, I've just never
1093
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,040
"met an adult, you know,
that was going to see Russell..."
1094
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,090
It's for kids, isn't it? For kids.
1095
00:56:29,090 --> 00:56:30,090
And, erm...
1096
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:37,030
But... And he said to me,
"Don't you think he's any good?"
1097
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:38,090
I went, "Yeah, he's great,
you know."
1098
00:56:38,090 --> 00:56:41,060
And then he said to me,
in a sarcastic voice,
1099
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:44,080
my own brother-in-law,
he said to me, "Yes," he said,
1100
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,060
"not like you, then," he said,
1101
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:49,010
"the most critically acclaimed
stand-up in Britain."
1102
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:54,060
Well, that's where the
big laugh is, normally.
1103
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,040
Nothing, was there?
1104
00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:05,050
A SINGLE CLAP
Yeah, well, bit late for that.
1105
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,060
SCATTERED APPLAUSE
1106
00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:18,090
OK, well... Right, why that normally
gets a laugh, right...?
1107
00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:22,000
I see... That is normally such
a big laugh I just...
1108
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,030
People are going, "Ah-ha!" and I
just walk off. I go...
1109
00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:26,060
OK. Right, it doesn't matter.
1110
00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:29,070
It's nice, actually, that so many
people have come
1111
00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:32,020
that didn't really know me
and have...
1112
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,030
OK, what it is, why that's...
1113
00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:39,070
OK, you don't know, right, but why
it's funny, right, he said to me,
1114
00:57:39,070 --> 00:57:41,080
"Of course, YOU'RE the most
critically acclaimed
1115
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,070
"stand-up in Britain,"
like I'm not, but I AM, right?
1116
00:57:44,070 --> 00:57:46,000
So that's why...
1117
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,020
And they know that.
1118
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:51,000
That's why they're laughing while
the rest of you're going, "Well..."
1119
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,050
No, I am, I am. I'm not...
1120
00:57:53,050 --> 00:57:55,000
No, that's why it normally...
1121
00:57:58,050 --> 00:58:00,050
Don't fucking shake your head at me,
right?
1122
00:58:00,050 --> 00:58:02,090
This...
It's not up for debate, right?
1123
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,040
I'm the most critically acclaimed
stand-up in Britain this century,
1124
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,090
so it's funny that your
own family member wouldn't...
1125
00:58:10,090 --> 00:58:11,090
Would not...
1126
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,080
I'm not saying I'm the best, right?
1127
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,050
I'm the most critically acclaimed,
I'm not saying I'm the best.
1128
00:58:18,050 --> 00:58:21,010
There's loads of stand-ups better
than me. I mean, there's...
1129
00:58:21,010 --> 00:58:22,030
There's Daniel Kitson...
1130
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:24,040
Ah, there's loads.
1131
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,050
No, I am, I know.
So people going...
1132
00:58:33,050 --> 00:58:35,090
I can see them, going,
"He can't be, can he? What?
1133
00:58:35,090 --> 00:58:37,090
"There's people walking out."
1134
00:58:40,030 --> 00:58:41,080
You've made this seem arrogant,
1135
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,030
but it's actually a very humble joke
cos it's about how...
1136
00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:49,070
Fuck!
Right, I have got...I have got...
1137
00:58:52,050 --> 00:58:56,050
I've got two...? I've got three
British Comedy Awards, I think.
1138
00:58:56,050 --> 00:58:59,040
I might have two. I can't remember,
I've got so many. I've got...
1139
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,080
I've got a Bafta. I've got...
1140
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:05,080
..an Olivier Award. None of these
people have got that,
1141
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,010
have they, an Olivier Award?
1142
00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:10,000
I've got six Chortle Awards,
which is the industry...
1143
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,070
So... It is!
1144
00:59:12,070 --> 00:59:16,020
I've got six consecutive ones
for Best Touring Show.
1145
00:59:18,020 --> 00:59:20,060
What d'you want me to do? I
can't... You know, this...
1146
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:24,070
This isn't an end to a half, is it?
1147
00:59:24,070 --> 00:59:27,060
A man pleading the case for
his own...
1148
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:29,070
..genius while people file out?
1149
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,090
Christ's sake.
Let's sort this out, right?
1150
00:59:39,090 --> 00:59:42,020
Right, OK, I appreciate so many
people coming,
1151
00:59:42,020 --> 00:59:44,010
taking a punt on this,
not knowing what it is.
1152
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:45,080
I know it's hard to get
baby-sitters,
1153
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,060
all that sort of thing.
Let's sort this out.
1154
00:59:47,060 --> 00:59:50,000
Let's kick the second half
up to five, right?
1155
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,020
We can fix this.
1156
00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:54,050
What I'm going to do... Don't go,
stop hanging around the doorway.
1157
00:59:55,090 --> 00:59:57,030
Give me two minutes, right?
1158
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,030
I'm going to fix this. What I'm
going to do, just quickly, right,
1159
01:00:01,030 --> 01:00:03,050
I'm going to go over some of the
jokes that are coming up
1160
01:00:03,050 --> 01:00:05,090
in the second half...
1161
01:00:05,090 --> 01:00:09,020
No, because then they can ask people
about them and...
1162
01:00:14,010 --> 01:00:16,000
I can't afford to lose
any more of you.
1163
01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:21,050
Right, in the second half, right,
there's going to be...
1164
01:00:21,050 --> 01:00:22,080
This'll take a minute, right?
1165
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,020
There's going to be two more jokes
about Deacon Blue,
1166
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:26,030
the '80s Scottish...
1167
01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:30,070
Right, they're not hilarious jokes,
right, but what they are,
1168
01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:32,030
they're what we call "call-backs"
1169
01:00:32,030 --> 01:00:35,080
and they tie back to
the earlier mention of Deacon Blue
1170
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,060
and they give the show the illusion
of structure, right?
1171
01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:41,070
Which is what raises us above
the apes, I think.
1172
01:00:43,010 --> 01:00:45,070
Or "visiting American stand-ups",
as I call them.
1173
01:00:48,020 --> 01:00:50,010
Oh, come on, you've seen them,
haven't you?
1174
01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:52,060
You're at the O2,
seeing the American stand-up.
1175
01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:56,060
It's 95 quid for their
42-minute club set
1176
01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:59,020
and you're sitting there watching
the American stand-up
1177
01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:00,030
and you're going...
1178
01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:08,000
"We don't have those cakes here,
mate.
1179
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,030
"We don't have those cakes."
1180
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,050
OK, all I'm saying, right, is,
1181
01:01:21,050 --> 01:01:25,050
I don't go to New York and do
two hours on Mr Kipling, do I?
1182
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,040
You know, I'm not
in Madison Square Garden going,
1183
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,040
"And there's like
a shortbread bit...
1184
01:01:36,050 --> 01:01:38,030
"Then there's jam on there...
1185
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,050
"Then there's, like, a Bakewell...
1186
01:01:43,050 --> 01:01:44,080
"Is this on?"
1187
01:01:48,070 --> 01:01:50,020
So to get everyone in the mood,
1188
01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:52,080
I thought I'd play the first Deacon
Blue album, Raintown,
1189
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,070
at half-time, right? And I found it,
second-hand, on the internet, 69p.
1190
01:01:57,070 --> 01:02:00,000
That's not very good, is it,
Annette?
1191
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,060
69p, no!
1192
01:02:05,050 --> 01:02:07,070
I could teach Deacon Blue a thing
or two about
1193
01:02:07,070 --> 01:02:09,050
online reputation management.
1194
01:02:09,050 --> 01:02:11,050
What I don't understand is,
there's six of them,
1195
01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:14,010
they should be on the internet in
shifts, driving that price up.
1196
01:02:16,070 --> 01:02:19,070
D'you know, if there were six of
me, my DVD would be about �5?
1197
01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:22,090
APPLAUSE
1198
01:02:22,090 --> 01:02:24,080
That's right.
You are right to clap.
1199
01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:29,020
So what you do there, you get a
problem, it's not a problem,
1200
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:31,070
you store it away,
bring it back later on.
1201
01:02:33,010 --> 01:02:35,070
I know you're laughing, the people
up there, they're going,
1202
01:02:35,070 --> 01:02:38,050
"No-one could be that good.
She is a plant, that woman.
1203
01:02:39,050 --> 01:02:45,070
"He takes her round the whole
country and she shouts out, '�5.' "
1204
01:02:47,090 --> 01:02:50,090
You're not a plant,
are you, Annette? No.
1205
01:02:50,090 --> 01:02:52,050
Only four more shows left, anyway.
1206
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,030
You don't know what's going on now,
do you?
1207
01:03:02,030 --> 01:03:06,020
So I ordered it off Music Magpie,
Deacon Blue's first album,
1208
01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:09,050
and the bloke, Rick, at
Music Magpie, he sent me an e-mail.
1209
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,090
He said, "We're sorry to inform you
that Raintown by Deacon Blue,
1210
01:03:14,090 --> 01:03:19,070
"order 2032917358, has failed its
final quality inspection."
1211
01:03:19,070 --> 01:03:22,030
So I said, "Well, don't worry
if the case is damaged.
1212
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:24,050
"I just need to play the music
at half-time."
1213
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:27,030
And he said, "No, not its physical
quality inspection.
1214
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:38,080
"Deacon Blue's mix of soulful
singer-songwriter sensibilities
1215
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,010
"and plastic mid-'80s production
values has not aged well.
1216
01:03:44,050 --> 01:03:48,010
"But we notice from our files that
all your fans who buy your live DVDs
1217
01:03:48,010 --> 01:03:51,050
"from us then go on to buy 1970s
Turkish funk albums.
1218
01:03:53,030 --> 01:03:56,040
"So as a goodwill gesture, here's
some to play in your interval."
1219
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,010
That's the interval now.
1220
01:03:58,010 --> 01:04:00,010
TURKISH FUNK MUSIC PLAYS
1221
01:04:01,070 --> 01:04:05,010
After what is,
by your own admission,
1222
01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:08,010
a very disappointing end to the
first half
1223
01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:09,090
on every single night of the tour,
1224
01:04:09,090 --> 01:04:12,080
which must be especially
dispiriting.Yeah.
1225
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,020
But what do you
actually do during an intermission?
1226
01:04:16,020 --> 01:04:18,080
Do you cry, do you comfort eat,
or...?
1227
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:23,080
Well, I go offstage and I sit in
the dressing room
1228
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,070
and then I go online
1229
01:04:25,070 --> 01:04:29,030
and I look to see if anyone's said
anything about it on Twitter.
1230
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:30,080
That's what I do every night.
1231
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,030
And hopefully,
there's bad things on Twitter.
1232
01:04:33,030 --> 01:04:36,010
But then I go out in a
more depressed and angry mood,
1233
01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:39,090
which helps with the persona
for the second half.
1234
01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:43,070
So I basically contrive a character
by looking at things
1235
01:04:43,070 --> 01:04:45,060
that will confirm it.
1236
01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:49,050
I see that you're still clinging to
the notion
1237
01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:54,050
that the comedian Stewart Lee is
somehow an entity
1238
01:04:54,050 --> 01:04:57,080
that is separate from yourself.
1239
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:01,050
How would you respond to people,
often close friends and associates,
1240
01:05:01,050 --> 01:05:05,010
who say that you are pretty much
like that all the time?
1241
01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:08,020
Well, it didn't use to be the case
and I think now what's happened is,
1242
01:05:08,020 --> 01:05:10,010
I toured this for 18 months
1243
01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:13,020
and I filmed this special at
the end of it,
1244
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:16,090
and I spent so long pretending to be
the comedian Stewart Lee
1245
01:05:16,090 --> 01:05:19,080
that I think whoever Stewart Lee
was is gone now.
1246
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,020
And I am the comedian Stewart Lee
and I'm aware of my own obsolescence
1247
01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:26,090
and this other Stewart Lee,
who had his own life and interests,
1248
01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:30,030
that's gone,
and I'm hoping I can find him again.
1249
01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:37,030
If the comedian Stewart Lee
is a character that you invented,
1250
01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:41,010
then wouldn't you have invented
a better one?
1251
01:05:43,070 --> 01:05:45,080
Right, in the first half I said,
didn't I,
1252
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,030
I was trying to do two hours on the
idea of the individual
1253
01:05:48,030 --> 01:05:50,050
in a digitised, free-market economy.
1254
01:05:50,050 --> 01:05:52,090
I said I was going to base it around
this painting,
1255
01:05:52,090 --> 01:05:56,020
Caspar David Friedrich's 1818 German
romantic masterpiece
1256
01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:57,050
Wanderer Above A Sea Of Fog.
1257
01:05:57,050 --> 01:06:00,080
Then I said I couldn't do that
because I had to talk about Brexit.
1258
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,030
Then I did talk about Brexit
for about 25 minutes.
1259
01:06:03,030 --> 01:06:06,050
Then I got back on to talking about
digital media, physical media.
1260
01:06:06,050 --> 01:06:09,000
So that was all right, that was the
first half, that was done.
1261
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,010
Then, about 16 months ago, I started
writing the second half and that was
1262
01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:14,060
coming together all right, and then
America voted for Trump
1263
01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:15,080
and there seems...
1264
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,050
OK, there seems to be an expectation
everywhere that I should
1265
01:06:19,050 --> 01:06:22,000
have written something about
Americans voting for Trump.
1266
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,090
And I haven't written anything about
Trump because I'm trying to write
1267
01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:27,050
a show that I can keep on the road
for 18 months. And as I didn't know
1268
01:06:27,050 --> 01:06:29,060
how America voting for Trump was
going to pan out,
1269
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:32,040
I didn't write anything about it in
case I couldn't keep it in the show
1270
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,090
for the full length of the tour and
monetise the work I've done.
1271
01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:37,040
So I haven't written anything about
America voting for Trump
1272
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,020
because I don't see the
point of committing
1273
01:06:39,020 --> 01:06:40,050
to a course of action for which
1274
01:06:40,050 --> 01:06:42,060
there is no logical or financial
justification.
1275
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:45,010
Well, typically, it's going better
down here, isn't it?
1276
01:06:45,010 --> 01:06:47,050
Down here, the elite of Southend.
1277
01:06:48,090 --> 01:06:51,000
They're going, "How amusing, Lee...
1278
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,050
"How amusing, Lee has used exactly
the same syntax
1279
01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:58,070
"at the start of both the first
and second halves
1280
01:06:58,070 --> 01:07:02,010
"with only two nouns
changed in order to drive home
1281
01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:04,050
"the notion that both the Trump
and Brexit victories
1282
01:07:04,050 --> 01:07:07,000
"are driven by the same
populist rhetoric. How clever."
1283
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,020
People up there are going,
1284
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,030
"How embarrassing,
he's done the same bit twice.
1285
01:07:11,090 --> 01:07:13,000
"He must be drunk.
1286
01:07:14,070 --> 01:07:17,010
"He's an alcoholic,
I saw it on Twitter."
1287
01:07:17,010 --> 01:07:18,020
So...
1288
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,010
You know,
because I've got a Trump bit,
1289
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,010
I have to check at half time
every night
1290
01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:27,000
that he's not been assassinated
1291
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,040
or fallen into a barrel of
porn actresses or something.
1292
01:07:33,030 --> 01:07:37,040
But it does mean that I see the same
crass, anti-American generalisations
1293
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,090
online every night on social media,
and it annoys me, to be honest.
1294
01:07:40,090 --> 01:07:46,020
Because I don't know if you can make
massive generalisations about
1295
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:47,080
Americans who voted for Trump.
1296
01:07:55,090 --> 01:07:59,050
Because Americans voted for Trump
for all sorts of different reasons.
1297
01:08:05,030 --> 01:08:08,030
And it wasn't just racists that
voted for Donald Trump...
1298
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:27,000
Cunts did as well, didn't they?
CHEERING
1299
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,080
Yeah. Stupid, fat American cunts.
1300
01:08:31,090 --> 01:08:33,060
The worst kind of cunts,
aren't they?
1301
01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:36,060
Much worse than our British cunts,
aren't they?
1302
01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:39,010
Salt of the Earth British cunts.
1303
01:08:39,010 --> 01:08:41,010
# British cunts!
1304
01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:43,000
# British cunts!
1305
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,030
# British Brexit-voting cunts
from Southend! #
1306
01:08:46,030 --> 01:08:48,000
But...
1307
01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:52,070
That's you, innit?
1308
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:54,030
But I don't know...
1309
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:58,080
But I don't know if you can make
massive generalisations
1310
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,010
about Americans that voted
for Trump, seriously.
1311
01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:04,060
I mean, not all Americans that voted
for Trump wanted to see America
1312
01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:07,050
immediately descend into being
an unaccountable,
1313
01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:10,090
single-party state exploiting
people's worst prejudices
1314
01:09:10,090 --> 01:09:12,090
to maintain power indefinitely.
1315
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,010
Some Americans just wanted to be
allowed to wear
1316
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:19,030
their Ku Klux Klan
outfits to church, didn't they?
1317
01:09:23,050 --> 01:09:25,040
Perked up, haven't you,
at half time?
1318
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,090
Had a little chat, have you,
with the people that brought you?
1319
01:09:32,020 --> 01:09:34,080
"Do you think he's funny, John?"
"Yes."
1320
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,020
"Oh, I do as well, then."
1321
01:09:38,030 --> 01:09:39,050
You make me sick.
1322
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:44,090
It's very difficult, though,
nowadays, to write a joke
1323
01:09:44,090 --> 01:09:47,000
that everyone either understands
or finds funny,
1324
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,010
you know, or relates to.
1325
01:09:48,010 --> 01:09:51,000
And it's partly because we live in
such fragmented times
1326
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,020
in terms of how we consume
news information.
1327
01:09:54,020 --> 01:09:56,050
There's no dominant,
trusted news narrative.
1328
01:09:56,050 --> 01:09:57,080
No news source.
1329
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,000
Everyone's going down their own
little digital wormholes.
1330
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,080
And you'll be on some website and it
says, "Do you agree with this?
1331
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,060
"Then click on this because it's the
same as what you already think."
1332
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:07,070
And no-one...
1333
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:11,010
No-one's got any overview,
have they?
1334
01:10:11,010 --> 01:10:13,060
And that's partly how a Trump
and a Brexit can happen.
1335
01:10:13,060 --> 01:10:15,070
It didn't used to be like that,
did it, Southend?
1336
01:10:15,070 --> 01:10:18,080
We used to be part of the collective
consciousness, didn't we?
1337
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,090
In 1978, for example,
1338
01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:24,090
28 million British people watched
the same
1339
01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:29,020
Christmas Morecambe and Wise as it
was broadcast in real time.
1340
01:10:29,020 --> 01:10:32,030
Half the population. And this is
held up as a sort of apogee
1341
01:10:32,030 --> 01:10:34,010
of our collective experience.
1342
01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:35,050
But it doesn't really hold water,
1343
01:10:35,050 --> 01:10:38,060
because there was no competition
then, was there? There was no DVDs.
1344
01:10:38,060 --> 01:10:40,010
There was no internet.
1345
01:10:40,010 --> 01:10:42,070
And there was only
two other TV channels.
1346
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:45,090
And on one of them was a
documentary about Burnham-on-Crouch.
1347
01:10:52,090 --> 01:10:56,050
And on the other was a drawing of
a clown sitting near a blackboard.
1348
01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:01,050
And that got 27 million viewers.
1349
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,000
"Did it?" No.
1350
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,000
But young people today are very
proud of the fact
1351
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,010
that they don't interact with
conventional terrestrial media
1352
01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:20,050
at all, aren't they?
1353
01:11:20,050 --> 01:11:23,050
They go, "Mate, I don't even know
what it is, mate.
1354
01:11:23,050 --> 01:11:27,060
"Terrestrial media? I just
watch the internet Netflix
1355
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:29,030
"cable download computer television.
1356
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:32,010
"You know, I haven't even
got the thing that you...
1357
01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:33,060
"I haven't even got any eyes.
1358
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:37,070
"Mate.
1359
01:11:39,070 --> 01:11:42,050
"I haven't even got any,
you know, senses
1360
01:11:42,050 --> 01:11:44,090
"to perceive any physical stimuli.
1361
01:11:46,050 --> 01:11:49,010
"I just have memes Bluetoothed
into my cortex.
1362
01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:56,070
"Have you not got the internet
Netflix cable Sky computer
1363
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:59,080
"download television, Stew? Have you
not got that, mate? It's amazing.
1364
01:12:01,010 --> 01:12:04,010
"Some amazing things on
the internet Netflix cable Sky.
1365
01:12:04,010 --> 01:12:05,070
"I mean there's...
1366
01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:07,080
"There are,
there's some really good stuff.
1367
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,010
"I mean, there's Game Of Thrones,
for example.
1368
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:11,050
"Which is...
1369
01:12:11,050 --> 01:12:13,090
"Aw, have you not seen
Game Of Thrones, mate?
1370
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,070
"Haaa...you not seen Game...?
Uhhhhlll....
1371
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:33,030
"Have you not seen Game Of Thrones,
mate?
1372
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:35,010
"It's not just about a gnome, Stew.
1373
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,040
"It's a dwarf anyway, you're racist
against gnomes.
1374
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,050
"This is a
completely different thing."
1375
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:48,030
"Have you not seen Game Of Thrones?
It's not for kids, Stew.
1376
01:12:48,030 --> 01:12:51,050
"No. I mean, yeah, there's
magic in it, but it's not like,
1377
01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:55,010
"you know, Harry Potter or The
Faraway Tree or something like...
1378
01:12:55,010 --> 01:12:58,070
"You know, what is magic anyway?
That's what I say to you.
1379
01:12:58,070 --> 01:13:01,030
"I mean magic could be,
it's, like, kind of
1380
01:13:01,030 --> 01:13:03,070
"energy that we don't
understand yet, you know?"
1381
01:13:06,060 --> 01:13:09,030
It could be. I mean, think about
it. I mean, once upon a time,
1382
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:13,010
you know, people would have run
away from Doritos, wouldn't they?
1383
01:13:13,010 --> 01:13:14,060
But people eat them now.
1384
01:13:14,060 --> 01:13:15,060
And they dip.
1385
01:13:16,090 --> 01:13:20,090
I don't. But, you know, some
people, I've seen people eating...
1386
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,080
"Have you not seen Game Of Thrones?
1387
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,080
"I don't know when it's set Stew,
no.
1388
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,060
"You know, it could be in the past,
yeah.
1389
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:37,060
"Could be in the future,
after Brexit.
1390
01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:40,050
"There's a big wall, cutting off the
north of the country.
1391
01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:42,090
"Everyone's in rags,
no-one's got any Toblerone.
1392
01:13:42,090 --> 01:13:44,050
"So it could be...
1393
01:13:46,050 --> 01:13:48,070
"Have you really
not seen Game Of Thrones, mate?
1394
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:52,000
"I mean, it's not just about a
dragon flying around with a hat on.
1395
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,090
"It's really... It's actually, Stew,
1396
01:13:54,090 --> 01:13:59,000
"Game Of Thrones is a really amazing
programme because, actually,
1397
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,020
"it's very clever, Game Of Thrones.
1398
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:06,060
"Because what it's actually about,
it's about history and, you know,
1399
01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:09,080
"philosophy and politics
and things like that."
1400
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,040
Is it?
1401
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,030
Game Of Thrones?
1402
01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:23,090
Peter Stringfellow's
Lord Of The Rings?
1403
01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:31,020
APPLAUSE
1404
01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:33,080
Bilbo Baggins at
the Spearmint Rhino?
1405
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,090
I'm not going to watch
Game Of Thrones.
1406
01:14:40,090 --> 01:14:43,010
I can get the same experience
from sitting around
1407
01:14:43,010 --> 01:14:45,090
with a Terry Pratchett novel
in one hand
1408
01:14:45,090 --> 01:14:48,030
and a copy of Hustler's
Barely Legal in the other.
1409
01:14:51,090 --> 01:14:54,020
"It's not like that, mate,
if you actually watch Game..."
1410
01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:56,060
I haven't watched Game Of Thrones!
1411
01:14:56,060 --> 01:15:00,020
If I want to understand the ongoing
weft of history,
1412
01:15:00,020 --> 01:15:05,010
while simultaneously being mildly
sexually aroused,
1413
01:15:05,010 --> 01:15:08,080
I'll forcibly dress David Starkey
in Agent Provocateur underwear...
1414
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,060
..and pay him to give a lap dance
to Simon Schama.
1415
01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:21,060
"It's not like that, mate, if you
actually watch Game Of..."
1416
01:15:21,060 --> 01:15:25,010
No, I haven't watched
Game Of Thrones.
1417
01:15:25,010 --> 01:15:28,030
And I shall never watch
Game Of Thrones.
1418
01:15:30,060 --> 01:15:32,040
I shall take no wife...
1419
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,080
..hold no lands...
1420
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:38,060
..father no children.
1421
01:15:41,020 --> 01:15:42,040
I shall wear no crown...
1422
01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:44,070
..and win no glory.
1423
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,050
And I shall not watch
Game Of Thrones.
1424
01:15:49,070 --> 01:15:51,060
Do you like that, do you,
Game Of Thrones fans?
1425
01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:53,090
Do you know what? I don't even
fucking know what that is.
1426
01:15:56,030 --> 01:16:00,030
I copied that off the back
of a cup in HMV.
1427
01:16:00,030 --> 01:16:01,030
Right, OK?
1428
01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:04,030
No, I did.
1429
01:16:04,030 --> 01:16:07,080
And everything I need to know to
do an hour of stand-up
1430
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,020
on Game Of Thrones,
I can get off a cup.
1431
01:16:11,020 --> 01:16:14,020
So, grow up,
you stupid Warhammer twat.
1432
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,010
You're 45 years old!
1433
01:16:25,010 --> 01:16:27,030
"It's not like that,
have you actually watched..."
1434
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:28,090
No, I haven't watched
Game Of Thrones!
1435
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:34,030
If I want to understand the ongoing
collapse of ancient dynasties,
1436
01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:37,010
while simultaneously being
barely semi-tumescent...
1437
01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:39,090
..as usual...
1438
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,070
..I'll read Tolstoy's War And Peace
while sitting over the wheel arch
1439
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:50,090
of a diesel-powered
double-decker bus.
1440
01:16:52,030 --> 01:16:54,020
First laughs from the
friends up there.
1441
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,020
Some of the older supporters
of the theatre going, yeah,
1442
01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:00,050
"Remember the old days?
You could get on, couldn't you?
1443
01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:03,020
"You get on the bus in Billericay,
1444
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:05,040
"and by the time..."
1445
01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:11,090
AS A WORKING-MAN'S CLUB COMEDIAN:
Hey, I've got a joke for you now,
Southend.
1446
01:17:11,090 --> 01:17:13,030
It's a Game Of Thrones joke.
1447
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:15,080
Hey, I tell you what,
you may laugh, madam -
1448
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,010
if you were my daughter,
I'd still be bathing you.
1449
01:17:18,010 --> 01:17:19,050
So...
1450
01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:23,080
Come on.
1451
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,020
It was the 1970s,
it was a different time.
1452
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:30,050
It was a time of innocence
and fun and laughter.
1453
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,050
So, I've got a joke for you,
it's a Game Of Thrones joke.
1454
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:37,070
Eh!
1455
01:17:37,070 --> 01:17:38,090
So...
1456
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:42,000
You may laugh, sir - if you were
my son, I'd still be bathing you.
1457
01:17:44,090 --> 01:17:47,040
Different times, weren't they,
the '70s?
1458
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,000
All the children were clean,
weren't they, in the '70s?
1459
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,090
Weren't they?
1460
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:54,050
Get in the bath, get out of the
bath, dry yourself off,
1461
01:17:54,050 --> 01:17:57,030
get back in the bath now!
1462
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:58,070
Get in the bath!
1463
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,040
So...
1464
01:18:06,050 --> 01:18:09,060
NORMAL VOICE: There's people up
there going, "Oh, now it's picked
up.
1465
01:18:11,010 --> 01:18:13,000
"A proper comedian's come on."
1466
01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:17,080
AS A WORKING-MAN'S CLUB COMEDIAN:
So, I've got a joke for you now.
1467
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,080
You may laugh, sir - if you were
dead, I'd still be bathing you.
1468
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,090
Different times,
weren't it, the '70s?
1469
01:18:22,090 --> 01:18:25,020
You could bathe the dead,
couldn't you?
1470
01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:28,030
"Is he dead?" "Yes, but he's clean."
"Oh."
1471
01:18:28,030 --> 01:18:30,040
"Nice and clean."
1472
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,040
So...
1473
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,050
I've got a joke for you now,
it's a Game Of Thrones joke.
1474
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:38,090
Eh! I tell you what, right,
1475
01:18:38,090 --> 01:18:41,060
there's so many naked young women
1476
01:18:41,060 --> 01:18:44,070
in that Game Of Thrones programme
that they have...
1477
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:49,080
I'm just checking back there
for the old PC thought police.
1478
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:55,040
Gary Lineker's liberal Stasi.
1479
01:18:58,090 --> 01:19:02,090
No offence, the metropolitan
liberal elite of Southend,
1480
01:19:02,090 --> 01:19:08,020
but how fucked are you when the main
champion of your liberal values
1481
01:19:08,020 --> 01:19:09,090
is Gary Lineker?
1482
01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:15,000
"My name is Gary Lineker.
1483
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:20,010
"I like to wake up in the morning
1484
01:19:20,010 --> 01:19:23,000
"and send out a succession of tweets
1485
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,090
"in support of broadly
progressive causes."
1486
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:34,080
"Then, in the afternoon,
1487
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,060
"I like to relax with
a great big bag of crisps."
1488
01:19:44,030 --> 01:19:47,080
Are you there, Gary? He's not
there tonight. Are you there?
1489
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,050
Some nights,
he's there and we have a...
1490
01:19:50,050 --> 01:19:52,080
..we have a little chat,
don't... Hello?
1491
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,030
But, no, Gary, I don't think...
1492
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:57,080
Well, given how the first
half ended,
1493
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,030
I don't think tonight is the sort of
night where the audience
1494
01:20:01,030 --> 01:20:03,030
will go with a
long, improvised dialogue
1495
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:05,050
with an invisible,
offstage Gary Lineker.
1496
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:08,030
So...
1497
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:15,040
I know, Gary, it worked very well in
Leicester, but that's your hometown.
1498
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,030
And what began as a
regionally specific ad lib
1499
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:23,070
has gradually depreciated in value
as we've gone further south.
1500
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,030
I know.
1501
01:20:28,030 --> 01:20:30,010
So, he's not coming on tonight.
1502
01:20:30,010 --> 01:20:34,060
He's not there, anyway. He won't
come this far south, Gary Lineker.
1503
01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:36,000
He won't cross water.
1504
01:20:37,070 --> 01:20:39,030
In case his crisps get damp.
1505
01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:44,090
Anyway, I need to get on
with the joke now,
1506
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:46,090
because the longer I talk
in this voice,
1507
01:20:46,090 --> 01:20:49,060
the more I realise I've not really
given it enough thought
1508
01:20:49,060 --> 01:20:51,000
to who this is supposed to be.
1509
01:20:53,020 --> 01:20:56,020
Just started off
as a throwaway thing.
1510
01:20:56,020 --> 01:21:00,050
Anyway, so, I've got a joke for you
now, it's a Game Of Thrones joke.
1511
01:21:00,050 --> 01:21:02,030
Eh, I tell you what, right,
1512
01:21:02,030 --> 01:21:04,060
there's so many naked young women
1513
01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:08,090
in that Game Of Thrones programme
that they have now,
1514
01:21:08,090 --> 01:21:14,050
it's hardly surprising what stunted
Tyrion Lannister's growth.
1515
01:21:22,030 --> 01:21:24,030
It were wanking,
ladies and gentlemen.
1516
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,030
He's wanked hisself
into being a dwarf.
1517
01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:36,030
See?
1518
01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:38,030
He was 6ft 6in in the pilot episode.
1519
01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:44,070
"Hang on a minute, mate,
wasn't that a sizeist joke?
1520
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:46,070
"About the dwarf community?"
1521
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:50,060
NORMAL VOICE: Yes, it was, but
I ridiculed the dwarf community in
order to satirize
1522
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:53,070
the ongoing exploitation of women
in mainstream media,
1523
01:21:53,070 --> 01:21:55,030
so it cancels it out.
1524
01:21:57,030 --> 01:22:00,010
It's the kind of split-second,
collateral-damage decision
1525
01:22:00,010 --> 01:22:02,060
Frankie Boyle has to make every time
he opens his mouth.
1526
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:07,060
"Oh, hang on a minute, mate,
1527
01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:11,030
"who's the sole arbiter of taste
in stand-up comedy?
1528
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:15,020
"Who's the self-appointed moral
judge of right and wrong
1529
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:17,070
"in stand-up comedy?"
It's me, I am!
1530
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:23,090
It's been me for about 17 years now,
1531
01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:27,070
and there's nothing the
passive-aggressive indifference
1532
01:22:27,070 --> 01:22:31,090
of the people of Southend-on-Sea
can do about that. Not now.
1533
01:22:31,090 --> 01:22:34,050
But, hey,
the world's gone mad, hasn't it?
1534
01:22:34,050 --> 01:22:36,010
Do you know what?
1535
01:22:36,010 --> 01:22:37,080
APPLAUSE
I blame...
1536
01:22:39,070 --> 01:22:42,000
I blame young people.
1537
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,000
By which I mean people under 40,
1538
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,050
and I hope there is none in.
1539
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:49,090
"I'm under 40.
1540
01:22:51,010 --> 01:22:53,000
"I'm disillusioned.
1541
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,020
"I like Russell Brand,
I didn't vote.
1542
01:22:58,020 --> 01:22:59,020
"Yeah!"
1543
01:23:01,070 --> 01:23:04,070
"Oh, no, I've got no future now."
1544
01:23:09,090 --> 01:23:12,050
"Never mind, I've got this phone."
1545
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,010
People under 40,
what a shower of shit are you?
1546
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:26,020
Aren't you?!
1547
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,080
This is you...
1548
01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:34,050
"I'm under 40.
1549
01:24:35,050 --> 01:24:37,040
"I like Poke Man Go."
1550
01:24:40,060 --> 01:24:44,010
"I'm under 40, and in the morning,
I don't eat bread for breakfast,
1551
01:24:44,010 --> 01:24:47,060
"like an adult, I suck drinking
yoghurt out of a pouch."
1552
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,000
HE SLURPS
1553
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:56,070
"I'm under 40, this is my food."
1554
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:05,090
"I'm under 40, this is me on the bus
to work in the morning."
1555
01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:32,010
People under 40,
you like stupid fads, don't you?
1556
01:25:32,010 --> 01:25:34,030
A Japanese cat's face drawn
on a satchel,
1557
01:25:34,030 --> 01:25:36,010
that's what you like, isn't it?
1558
01:25:38,090 --> 01:25:41,070
"I've got to get up early
and get down the market." "Why?"
1559
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:43,090
"The Japanese-cat-satchel-face
man's coming."
1560
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:50,000
"You've got loads of satchels of a
Japanese cat's face on, mate."
1561
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,030
"I know, but there might be...
Waaahhh!"
1562
01:25:59,010 --> 01:26:01,050
Bondage sex and S&M
and the fetish thing,
1563
01:26:01,050 --> 01:26:04,040
that's the new thing,
isn't it, the under-40s?
1564
01:26:05,050 --> 01:26:07,010
Which they think they've invented.
1565
01:26:08,090 --> 01:26:12,000
Because they read about it in
50 Shades Of Grey,
1566
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,050
or they saw it in a FKA twigs video.
1567
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,000
I know who he is, actually, mate,
so you can fuck off.
1568
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:25,090
This is exactly my problem,
actually, with the under-40s.
1569
01:26:25,090 --> 01:26:28,050
If you're 50, like me, and you make
1570
01:26:28,050 --> 01:26:32,030
some joke about popular culture,
people under 40 go,
1571
01:26:32,030 --> 01:26:36,000
"Ah-ha-ha, Grandad,
you don't know who FKA twigs is."
1572
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,010
Well, I do know who he is,
FKA twigs.
1573
01:26:38,010 --> 01:26:41,080
They don't, do they,
the Southend theatre people?
1574
01:26:43,090 --> 01:26:45,040
FKA twigs, right...
1575
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,030
He's not a twig, like you think.
1576
01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:50,020
"Is he a twig,
is he from the woods?"
1577
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,050
FKA twigs, he's a...
1578
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,070
He's a rap singer,
he's one of these...
1579
01:27:04,090 --> 01:27:06,050
He is, he's one of these rappers.
1580
01:27:07,090 --> 01:27:11,010
Well, he is, he's done loads of
tapes, I've got his tapes,
1581
01:27:11,010 --> 01:27:12,010
and he's...
1582
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,050
He's got a video, FKA twigs,
1583
01:27:19,050 --> 01:27:24,010
where all sort of Japanese bondage
ropes go round him,
1584
01:27:24,010 --> 01:27:26,040
and he flies up in the air and he
has to try and...
1585
01:27:27,090 --> 01:27:29,030
Right, has anyone seen this?
1586
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:31,090
Because I'm looking for
stuff to drop, to be honest.
1587
01:27:34,010 --> 01:27:36,040
No. I've seen it, I saw it on, er...
1588
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,050
Oh...
1589
01:27:39,050 --> 01:27:41,070
Not Top Of The Pops,
what is it they have now?
1590
01:27:44,010 --> 01:27:45,060
The internet, it was on that.
1591
01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:50,040
It's like Top Of The Pops,
isn't it, the internet?
1592
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,060
Full of pop music
and sexual predators.
1593
01:27:57,010 --> 01:27:58,050
Yeah, see? See?
1594
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,020
I can write jokes, I could
be on Mock The Week, easily.
1595
01:28:04,010 --> 01:28:05,070
This is Mock The Week, isn't it?
1596
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,040
"The internet is a bit like..."
1597
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,070
Fuck off, for God's sake,
what waste of everyone's...
1598
01:28:11,070 --> 01:28:12,070
Pathetic, innit?
1599
01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:15,000
"Oh, I've written a joke!"
1600
01:28:16,050 --> 01:28:19,040
Imagine writing jokes?
What a waste of time.
1601
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,040
"Oh, this thing is like this,
only this is different."
1602
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,010
For God's sake, pathetic.
1603
01:28:30,090 --> 01:28:32,010
People under f...
1604
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:34,060
"I'm 37, I like bondage sex.
1605
01:28:34,060 --> 01:28:36,070
"I had a mask on
and some jam went on me."
1606
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:37,070
Did it?
1607
01:28:51,030 --> 01:28:54,090
Do you remember proper bondage sex,
like we used to have?
1608
01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:56,040
In the '80s, in the '70s -
1609
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,080
in the '50s,
friends of the theatre, remember?
1610
01:29:02,050 --> 01:29:05,010
Proper, you know,
degrading, you know...
1611
01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:08,080
If you weren't in hospital at the
end of it, you'd done it wrong.
1612
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,010
And he had to do it again.
Not like now.
1613
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:14,090
"I'm 34, I like bondage sex,
a feather went on my bum."
1614
01:29:14,090 --> 01:29:16,010
Did it?
1615
01:29:26,050 --> 01:29:29,040
Were you asphyxiated in
a career-ending accident?
1616
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:34,080
No? Shut up then, drink
your fucking pouch of yoghurt,
1617
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:39,070
get your fucking cat-face bag
and fuck off!
1618
01:29:39,070 --> 01:29:42,030
And that is my message to
the under-40s.
1619
01:29:42,030 --> 01:29:44,030
APPLAUSE
1620
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:54,060
But, joking apart...
1621
01:29:55,070 --> 01:29:56,090
Yeah, I was joking.
1622
01:29:58,070 --> 01:30:01,030
I took an exaggerated position
for comic effect.
1623
01:30:03,010 --> 01:30:04,050
I've been doing it all night.
1624
01:30:07,070 --> 01:30:11,050
A little peep for you there,
Southend,
1625
01:30:11,050 --> 01:30:13,080
behind the wizard's curtain.
1626
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,030
# Behind the wizard's curtain
1627
01:30:23,020 --> 01:30:24,090
# With Stewart Lee
1628
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:30,010
# He is going to show you all
1629
01:30:30,010 --> 01:30:32,090
# The secrets of comedy
1630
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:39,000
# Well, what would you do if
a woman said �5
1631
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:43,090
# When you were hoping
that she'd say 50p?
1632
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:50,010
# Would you squirrel it away
at the back of your head
1633
01:30:50,010 --> 01:30:53,030
# And bring it back in
later on instead?
1634
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:58,020
# Yeah!
Behind the wizard's curtain. #
1635
01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:00,080
Yeah, Behind The Wizard's Curtain.
1636
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,060
It's a thing I'm working on
for Dave.
1637
01:31:05,020 --> 01:31:06,080
Hey, get this, right?
1638
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,090
It was my idea and I wrote it,
1639
01:31:08,090 --> 01:31:11,090
but apparently it'd be better if
Greg Davies presented it.
1640
01:31:13,090 --> 01:31:16,030
Doesn't seem fair, does it?
1641
01:31:16,030 --> 01:31:17,050
Anyway, so...
1642
01:31:18,090 --> 01:31:23,020
On the subject of your constant
comparisons
1643
01:31:23,020 --> 01:31:26,030
between your act and jazz,
1644
01:31:26,030 --> 01:31:30,040
I don't really recall Miles Davis
1645
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,090
or any of the other jazz legends
1646
01:31:32,090 --> 01:31:37,090
actually ever having their trousers
fall down, or anything like that.
1647
01:31:37,090 --> 01:31:41,030
I mean, we are talking about
something very, very different.
1648
01:31:41,030 --> 01:31:44,010
Well, I understand what you mean,
but there's a similarity,
1649
01:31:44,010 --> 01:31:46,080
inasmuch as what the great jazz
musicians do
1650
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,030
is they work in the moment with
things that take them by surprise.
1651
01:31:50,030 --> 01:31:54,010
One night in Bristol, my trousers
fell down, it took me by surprise,
1652
01:31:54,010 --> 01:31:57,010
but I worked with it. I suppose the
difference between me and
1653
01:31:57,010 --> 01:32:01,000
the jazz musicians is that they did
that once, they worked with it,
1654
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,000
and they consigned it to the
bin of history.
1655
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,090
What they don't do with their
moments of improvisation
1656
01:32:05,090 --> 01:32:08,080
is then falsify them for hundreds
of times afterwards.
1657
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,090
Yes.In fact, in many ways,
you could argue
1658
01:32:10,090 --> 01:32:13,060
there could be nothing more
different between the pure,
1659
01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:17,010
improvisatory art of jazz and a man
pretending to improvise
1660
01:32:17,010 --> 01:32:19,010
the same thing, night after night,
1661
01:32:19,010 --> 01:32:21,020
for the best part of
a year-and-a-half.
1662
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,090
But the thing is, at some point,
1663
01:32:22,090 --> 01:32:25,060
I did have the idea to do that in
the first place.
1664
01:32:25,060 --> 01:32:27,000
That was the jazz moment.
1665
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,050
So you're more like a recording
of jazz than jazz itself?
1666
01:32:31,050 --> 01:32:34,030
Yeah, that's been taken around and
played to people
1667
01:32:34,030 --> 01:32:37,050
as a reminder of the fact that at
some point, the idea was original.
1668
01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:41,080
So I was talking about the S&M and
the fetish thing there, right.
1669
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,040
It's an exaggerated example to
choose, but let's stay with it,
1670
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,060
cos it dovetails into something
I wanted to talk about,
1671
01:32:46,060 --> 01:32:47,090
which is this, right?
1672
01:32:47,090 --> 01:32:51,010
I think any area of interest
people have, any hobby,
1673
01:32:51,010 --> 01:32:55,080
whether it's woodwork, sailing, you
know, er, collecting stamps -
1674
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,060
or something mad, like the
fetish thing - whatever it is,
1675
01:32:59,060 --> 01:33:02,060
it's so much easier now to
find out about these things
1676
01:33:02,060 --> 01:33:05,060
and to meet like-minded people,
because of the internet -
1677
01:33:05,060 --> 01:33:07,070
much more so than it was,
say, even 25 years ago -
1678
01:33:07,070 --> 01:33:11,040
that I don't know if any of our
passions, if any of our hobbies,
1679
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,000
our interests, will ever have the
same depth of meaning
1680
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,090
that they had to
us a quarter of a century ago,
1681
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:18,010
because you're not required to
put yourself out,
1682
01:33:18,010 --> 01:33:20,030
you're not required to commit
to anything, you know?
1683
01:33:20,030 --> 01:33:22,060
Let's take the fetish thing,
for a laugh, right?
1684
01:33:22,060 --> 01:33:26,040
Now, if you'd wanted to get into
that 25 years ago, you know,
1685
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:30,070
you probably couldn't even have done
it in Southend.
1686
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:32,090
You'd have had
to go to Burnham-on-Crouch, right?
1687
01:33:32,090 --> 01:33:37,040
You'd have to go to the very worst
part of Burnham-on-Crouch,
1688
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,080
and it'd be in some underpass,
and there'd be some
1689
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,050
horrible shop there with a bloke
behind the counter,
1690
01:33:42,050 --> 01:33:44,060
drinking amyl nitrate out
of an egg cup.
1691
01:33:44,060 --> 01:33:48,080
And he'd sell you some ticket to
some fetish event in London
1692
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:52,000
in about two years' time, and you'd
go there, to The Clink or something.
1693
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,030
You'd go, "Hello, where'd you get
that collar thing?
1694
01:33:54,030 --> 01:33:56,070
"Who are you? How do you do this?
When's the next meeting?"
1695
01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:58,070
And it would take you ages,
wouldn't it, to get into
1696
01:33:58,070 --> 01:34:00,090
any kind of subculture.
But when you finally did,
1697
01:34:00,090 --> 01:34:03,060
it would mean something, because
you'd committed to it, right?
1698
01:34:03,060 --> 01:34:06,050
But it's all changed now. One of you
could go home tonight, from here,
1699
01:34:06,050 --> 01:34:09,080
couldn't you, and think, "Oh,
I'd like to be in the fetish scene."
1700
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,090
And you could go on Amazon, bop,
bop, bop, next-day delivery,
1701
01:34:12,090 --> 01:34:15,030
Taiwanese fist glove,
that's there tomorrow.
1702
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,060
Midday, your partner goes,
1703
01:34:17,060 --> 01:34:19,080
"What's this?" You go,
"It's a Taiwanese fist glove."
1704
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,050
"I didn't know you were into
all that." "I am." "Since when?"
1705
01:34:22,050 --> 01:34:25,000
"Last night, about half past ten,
I just decided."
1706
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,050
But it wouldn't mean anything,
would it? It wouldn't mean anything.
1707
01:34:30,050 --> 01:34:34,020
You know, I used to collect records,
right? I started about 1979
1708
01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:36,040
and I spent the next two decades
wandering around
1709
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,020
with a little list in my pocket,
looking for these things.
1710
01:34:39,020 --> 01:34:40,060
And then I started touring, '89,
1711
01:34:40,060 --> 01:34:43,040
and I'd go to these different towns,
Leeds, Birmingham, Glasgow,
1712
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,030
I'd go in the record shops,
"Have you got this?"
1713
01:34:45,030 --> 01:34:47,020
"No, we'll ring the dealer."
And he'd come in,
1714
01:34:47,020 --> 01:34:49,090
and it would take you ten years,
sometimes, to find the thing
1715
01:34:49,090 --> 01:34:52,070
you were looking for. And when you
finally did, it was amazing.
1716
01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:54,070
Then, in 1997, I got online,
in an afternoon,
1717
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:57,050
I found everything I'd been looking
for for 20 years, right?
1718
01:34:57,050 --> 01:34:59,010
And it didn't mean anything.
1719
01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:02,090
It did not mean anything, and it's
changed so much in our lifetime.
1720
01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:07,000
If you talk to your grandparents
or your great-grandparents
1721
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,030
about trying to do bondage sex
and fetish stuff...
1722
01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:12,050
..and S&M...
1723
01:35:15,070 --> 01:35:18,060
You know, in the war, when there
was Hitler, Adolf Hitler.
1724
01:35:19,070 --> 01:35:23,080
Or in the '30s, when a lot of the
things they needed were very scarce,
1725
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,090
very hard to come by,
1726
01:35:25,090 --> 01:35:28,040
it was harder for them to get
into all this stuff,
1727
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,040
but I think it meant more to them.
1728
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,040
Well, you snigger because
you are of a generation
1729
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,090
where you cannot conceive, can you,
they cannot conceive
1730
01:35:37,090 --> 01:35:40,090
of not being able to instantly get
what they want.
1731
01:35:40,090 --> 01:35:42,010
And it is a tragedy, I think.
1732
01:35:42,010 --> 01:35:45,010
And I remember talking to
my gran about this,
1733
01:35:45,010 --> 01:35:47,020
and I remember her saying that,
1734
01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:53,090
in the '30s, you know, if she
wanted a deluxe latex sort of...
1735
01:35:53,090 --> 01:35:56,090
..like a sex harness for bondage,
1736
01:35:56,090 --> 01:36:00,030
to be hung up from a
beam or something...
1737
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:04,060
You know, it wasn't like now.
1738
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:06,030
They couldn't just go
into Ann Summers.
1739
01:36:07,090 --> 01:36:09,080
You know, there was no Ann Summers.
1740
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,010
They lived in Kidderminster.
1741
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:17,070
People still live there now,
still live there now.
1742
01:36:20,010 --> 01:36:23,020
What they had to do in the '30s,
in rural Worcestershire,
1743
01:36:23,020 --> 01:36:26,050
if they wanted a sex harness, is...
1744
01:36:27,090 --> 01:36:29,040
Yeah, "ha-ha". ..is...
1745
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,090
..they would have to walk.
1746
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:38,040
They would. And they would walk and
walk and walk and walk,
1747
01:36:40,030 --> 01:36:45,020
miles and miles and miles,
all round rural Worcestershire,
1748
01:36:45,020 --> 01:36:48,060
all round Bromsgrove, Redditch,
1749
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,070
Alvechurch, Inkberrow,
1750
01:36:51,070 --> 01:36:55,070
Rowney Green, erm, Bell End,
1751
01:36:55,070 --> 01:36:58,030
Fishponds, Upper Piddle,
Wyre Piddle,
1752
01:36:58,030 --> 01:37:00,050
all these sorts of places...
1753
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,090
..just looking on the floor.
1754
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:12,080
For old bits of string and twine
1755
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,010
and sturdy weeds and vines.
1756
01:37:16,010 --> 01:37:19,040
And then they would knit
all these together,
1757
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,040
and they would make their
own sex harness,
1758
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,080
just out of old rubbish from
off the floor.
1759
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,050
And do you know what a sex harness
made out of just all stuff off the
1760
01:37:29,050 --> 01:37:31,090
floor in Worcestershire in 1937...
1761
01:37:31,090 --> 01:37:35,060
That would have meant more to them
than probably any possession
1762
01:37:35,060 --> 01:37:37,020
any of you have ever had,
1763
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:40,000
or any feeling that any of
you have ever had,
1764
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,030
or any thought that any of you
have ever had,
1765
01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:45,050
because you live, don't you,
1766
01:37:45,050 --> 01:37:50,040
in a time that is of no value and
consequently you are of no value.
1767
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,040
You are like an empty husk,
1768
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,090
billowing across a desolate
landscape,
1769
01:37:55,090 --> 01:37:59,000
bereft of all sense and meaning,
and you know it.
1770
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,050
And I remember talking...
1771
01:38:01,070 --> 01:38:04,070
I remember talking to my grandad
about this sort of thing.
1772
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:07,010
My grandad, and he said to me,
he said it was different."
1773
01:38:07,010 --> 01:38:09,080
He said to me, in the '30s,
in rural Worcestershire,
1774
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:14,070
if he wanted a deluxe,
latex, zip-up gimp mask for sex,
1775
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:15,070
a sex mask...
1776
01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:23,020
It wasn't like now, he couldn't just
go on Amazon and order a sex mask.
1777
01:38:23,020 --> 01:38:27,010
What they had to do in the '30s,
in rural Worcestershire,
1778
01:38:27,010 --> 01:38:30,070
if they wanted a sex mask,
is they would have to walk.
1779
01:38:30,070 --> 01:38:33,080
And they would walk and
walk and walk,
1780
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:38,090
miles and miles and miles south
from Kidderminster,
1781
01:38:38,090 --> 01:38:42,010
down what is now the M5.
1782
01:38:42,010 --> 01:38:44,020
You've got the M5, haven't you?
1783
01:38:44,020 --> 01:38:48,090
The M40 coming in here,
the 42, Banbury way.
1784
01:38:50,010 --> 01:38:55,030
The 50, Ross on Wye, South Wales,
1785
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:57,050
the M4 to Reading,
1786
01:38:57,050 --> 01:38:59,040
Twyford...
1787
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,030
Course, back then,
it was a leafy lane.
1788
01:39:01,030 --> 01:39:04,080
But they'd get about halfway
down there,
1789
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,010
where Droitwich, Junction 5, is now.
1790
01:39:09,050 --> 01:39:11,040
And they'd go off east,
1791
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,020
not west, round the back of
Frog Pond, Bromsgrove...
1792
01:39:14,020 --> 01:39:16,000
East.
1793
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,010
Pershore.
1794
01:39:18,010 --> 01:39:20,040
Erm, Evesham.
1795
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,040
Vale of Evesham.
1796
01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:24,050
Where all the vegetables come from.
1797
01:39:26,010 --> 01:39:29,070
And they would find the potato farm,
1798
01:39:29,070 --> 01:39:34,030
and Gran would distract the potato
farmer with rhetoric and dance.
1799
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:40,040
And Grandad would creep in
the potato farm,
1800
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,040
and when he's found hisself
a potato sack,
1801
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:47,010
he'd empty all
the potatoes out of it
1802
01:39:47,010 --> 01:39:48,090
and then cut two eyeholes in it.
1803
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,090
And that was his sex mask,
an old potato sack.
1804
01:39:54,090 --> 01:39:56,010
And he'd put it on,
1805
01:39:56,010 --> 01:40:00,030
and the hessian would gouge horrible
wounds into his crying face.
1806
01:40:00,030 --> 01:40:02,090
But that was their sex mask,
the potato sack.
1807
01:40:02,090 --> 01:40:05,090
And do you know what?
A potato-sack sex mask
1808
01:40:05,090 --> 01:40:09,050
from off the floor in rural
Worcestershire in 1937,
1809
01:40:09,050 --> 01:40:12,020
that would have meant more
to them than...
1810
01:40:12,020 --> 01:40:14,080
OK, what's the most treasured
possession you've got?
1811
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,090
"Oh, Stew, it's a photo of our
daughter the moment she was born."
1812
01:40:17,090 --> 01:40:19,000
Is it?
1813
01:40:20,030 --> 01:40:22,000
Because that's meaningless,
isn't it?
1814
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,000
Compared to a potato-sack
sex mask...
1815
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,070
It is!
1816
01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:29,020
Because what did you do with that
image the moment you took it?
1817
01:40:29,020 --> 01:40:31,080
You sent it off, didn't you,
to 200 people in your address book,
1818
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,080
100 of whom you don't really know,
50 of whom you actively despise,
1819
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,060
and every time that image lands,
1820
01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:38,070
like a wet sock falling
into a urinal,
1821
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:41,010
a layer of meaning
is shaved off it, isn't it?
1822
01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:43,080
Shave off the meaning!
Shave it all away!
1823
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,000
Until you're left with a
Turin shroud, gossamer-thin,
1824
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,040
tracing-paper imprint of this
supposedly profound moment
1825
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,090
in your life that no longer
has any value,
1826
01:40:52,090 --> 01:40:55,070
because you've fucked all the
meaning out of it again!
1827
01:40:57,070 --> 01:40:59,040
APPLAUSE
1828
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,020
And these are the old stories the
grandparents used to tell.
1829
01:41:08,090 --> 01:41:10,040
You're probably like me, Southend,
1830
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,090
your grandparents probably used to
tell these old stories,
1831
01:41:12,090 --> 01:41:15,030
and you used to think, didn't you,
"I must write them down,
1832
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:17,060
"or tape-record them
before they're all forgotten."
1833
01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:19,070
But we never do, do we?
I actually did.
1834
01:41:19,070 --> 01:41:22,040
In the 1970s, I tape-recorded
all these old stories
1835
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:23,060
of my grandparents.
1836
01:41:23,060 --> 01:41:26,010
But in the '80s,
when my brother-in-law moved in,
1837
01:41:26,010 --> 01:41:28,010
he taped a Deacon Blue
album over them.
1838
01:41:33,050 --> 01:41:35,030
Right, that's the first one of them.
1839
01:41:40,090 --> 01:41:45,010
Well done. The second
and final Deacon Blue joke
1840
01:41:45,010 --> 01:41:47,050
is right up near
the end of the show,
1841
01:41:47,050 --> 01:41:49,080
but it isn't the actual
end of the show.
1842
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,010
I do it, and then there's about
30 seconds more
1843
01:41:52,010 --> 01:41:53,070
until the actual end of the show.
1844
01:41:53,070 --> 01:41:56,060
So when you hear the second
Deacon Blue joke, don't go,
1845
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:59,010
"Oh, it's finished now,"
and start getting your coat on
1846
01:41:59,010 --> 01:42:00,070
and wriggling around, just wait!
1847
01:42:07,050 --> 01:42:10,030
So I was talking there about the S&M
and the fetish scene,
1848
01:42:10,030 --> 01:42:14,030
and it's a mad, exaggerated example
to choose, but it's a good way,
1849
01:42:14,030 --> 01:42:17,010
I think, of looking at how our
access to information,
1850
01:42:17,010 --> 01:42:19,080
our access to different cultures,
has changed.
1851
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,030
And our grandparents and our
great-grandparents
1852
01:42:22,030 --> 01:42:23,070
did see incredible changes.
1853
01:42:23,070 --> 01:42:28,000
My grandad was still around at the
sort of start of the internet age,
1854
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,080
and I remember him talking to me
about it.
1855
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,070
You know, he said he couldn't
believe it.
1856
01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:34,010
And he did say to me once, he said
that in the '30s,
1857
01:42:34,010 --> 01:42:39,000
in rural Worcestershire, if he did
want to do S&M and fetish stuff...
1858
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,000
Seriously, I'm not doing a joke now,
1859
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:45,020
but he said it was...it was
very different.
1860
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:47,040
I mean, he said to me,
1861
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,020
"We just couldn't find the
things, you know." He said to me,
1862
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:52,090
for example, back then, if they
wanted to do that sort of thing,
1863
01:42:52,090 --> 01:42:58,010
you know, there was no Ann Summers
deluxe, strawberry-flavoured
1864
01:42:58,010 --> 01:43:01,080
sex lubricant gel,
there was nothing like that.
1865
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,090
Well, there wasn't.
1866
01:43:05,050 --> 01:43:08,070
And all they had then, in the '30s,
in rural Worcestershire,
1867
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:12,040
if they wanted to do that sort of
thing, was a big lump of dripping.
1868
01:43:19,010 --> 01:43:21,060
And this was kept, wasn't it,
1869
01:43:21,060 --> 01:43:25,030
the dripping on a marble slab
out the back,
1870
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:28,010
in the pantry, to keep it cool
on the marble.
1871
01:43:28,010 --> 01:43:29,010
And...
1872
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:33,090
Yeah, on the marble slab. It's funny
to you, because you think,
1873
01:43:33,090 --> 01:43:35,030
"Oh, didn't they have a fridge?"
1874
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:39,000
No, mate, they didn't have a fridge,
right?
1875
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,030
And, you know, maybe it was
Christmas, and Grandad was in
1876
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:44,000
a good mood, and he'd go, "Come on,
Gran, let's have bondage sex."
1877
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,070
Not his own gran, obviously,
he wasn't sick.
1878
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:50,060
That's what he'd call his wife,
because he was in love with her.
1879
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,050
And...
1880
01:43:56,030 --> 01:44:00,030
They would get undressed there in
the freezing-black darkness
1881
01:44:00,030 --> 01:44:01,070
of the hovel they lived in,
1882
01:44:01,070 --> 01:44:03,090
shivering and crying in
the black dark,
1883
01:44:03,090 --> 01:44:06,070
the flea bites bleeding
all over them.
1884
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:09,030
They would put their
potato-sack sex masks on.
1885
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,020
And the hessian would gouge
horrible wounds into their faces.
1886
01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:17,090
Weeping sores.
1887
01:44:17,090 --> 01:44:21,090
And they'd be shivering and crying
in the black dark, and bleeding.
1888
01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:24,030
And all the while, trying
to maintain a state of arousal.
1889
01:44:24,030 --> 01:44:25,090
And doing it.
1890
01:44:25,090 --> 01:44:28,050
Because, unlike
your cosseted generation,
1891
01:44:28,050 --> 01:44:30,050
they believed in something,
they had values.
1892
01:44:33,010 --> 01:44:34,020
Not like now.
1893
01:44:34,020 --> 01:44:36,060
"I'm 33, I like bondage sex.
1894
01:44:36,060 --> 01:44:39,040
"Get under the duvet where
it's warm, and I'll harm you."
1895
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,020
I've seen...
1896
01:44:45,010 --> 01:44:46,030
I've seen where they lived,
1897
01:44:46,030 --> 01:44:49,060
the wind howling through the cracks
in the stonework, the floor
1898
01:44:49,060 --> 01:44:52,050
just straw and mud and dung,
animal dung,
1899
01:44:52,050 --> 01:44:55,090
all the farm animals in there with
them - sheep, goats, ducks.
1900
01:44:55,090 --> 01:44:59,050
Some of the ducks were traumatised
by the things they saw.
1901
01:44:59,050 --> 01:45:02,010
They were laying square eggs
for years afterwards.
1902
01:45:04,050 --> 01:45:07,030
And then finally, Gran would go,
"Now it's time to go down
1903
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:09,070
"in the cellar and get the coal
and light the fire
1904
01:45:09,070 --> 01:45:12,090
"to put the dripping in
the skillet to melt it down."
1905
01:45:16,010 --> 01:45:18,010
And Grandad would go down
in the cellar,
1906
01:45:18,010 --> 01:45:20,070
shivering and crying and
naked and bleeding
1907
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:23,050
in the freezing-black dark,
digging up the coal.
1908
01:45:23,050 --> 01:45:26,080
The coal dust would billow up into
his potato-sack sex mask,
1909
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,000
and he'd be coughing up huge,
toxic black globs
1910
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,000
of poisonous black phlegm,
1911
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,090
and bleeding and crying in the
frozen darkness,
1912
01:45:34,090 --> 01:45:36,090
until finally the fire was lit.
1913
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,090
And then Gran would hold up
the dripping...
1914
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:45,050
..and at this point, she would
always say the same thing to him,
1915
01:45:45,050 --> 01:45:48,030
and when we were kids and she was
telling us this story, we'd go,
1916
01:45:48,030 --> 01:45:50,040
"Come on, Gran,
say the dripping thing."
1917
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:55,080
And she'd go, "No..." She'd have
a bit of fun with it, you know.
1918
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,040
She'd go, "No, I can't remember it."
1919
01:45:59,030 --> 01:46:02,020
And we'd go, "Come on,
Gran, say the dripping thing."
1920
01:46:02,020 --> 01:46:04,060
"No, people don't want to
hear about that."
1921
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:06,070
Christmas Day,
six kids round the table,
1922
01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:09,050
"Say it, Gran, say it,
say the dripping thing, come on!"
1923
01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:16,010
She'd hold up the dripping,
1924
01:46:16,010 --> 01:46:18,030
and she'd said to Grandad,
she'd say, "Now...
1925
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,080
"..here's the dripping.
1926
01:46:23,060 --> 01:46:25,070
"But remember,
1927
01:46:25,070 --> 01:46:28,070
"before we melt
this dripping down...
1928
01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:34,020
"..as well as being a lubricant
for your selfish pleasure...
1929
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:40,050
"..this dripping
is also our dinner."
1930
01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:57,030
And they would have to make
a choice, a very stark choice,
1931
01:46:57,030 --> 01:47:02,090
a choice unlike any choice your
cosseted, spoiled, lazy,
1932
01:47:02,090 --> 01:47:04,090
facile generation will
ever have to make.
1933
01:47:04,090 --> 01:47:11,020
A choice between the pursuit of
selfish pleasure
1934
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:13,090
and basic human sustenance
and survival.
1935
01:47:16,030 --> 01:47:18,020
I talked to my grandad years
later, he said,
1936
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:21,010
if they did choose the pleasure
route, if they were careful,
1937
01:47:21,010 --> 01:47:23,090
they could normally scrape together
enough of the dripping...
1938
01:47:23,090 --> 01:47:25,060
AUDIENCE GROANS
1939
01:47:37,010 --> 01:47:38,070
So, it's an exaggerated story, that.
1940
01:47:40,090 --> 01:47:42,070
They didn't live in Kidderminster.
1941
01:47:46,060 --> 01:47:48,050
They lived in Malvern Link,
1942
01:47:48,050 --> 01:47:52,070
which is not as funny a name, is it?
So I've changed it.
1943
01:47:54,090 --> 01:47:56,070
Weird that, innit?
1944
01:47:56,070 --> 01:48:00,000
Why is one name funny and another
one's not funny?
1945
01:48:01,070 --> 01:48:03,080
What makes things funny?
1946
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:04,080
Well...
1947
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:08,090
..if we knew the answer to
that question...
1948
01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:13,010
..there'd be no need for this
whole charade, would there?
1949
01:48:15,070 --> 01:48:17,080
If you know what made things funny,
1950
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,090
you could stay at home,
couldn't you?
1951
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:25,050
Making yourselves laugh,
1952
01:48:25,050 --> 01:48:28,060
instead of having to pay a
professional to do it for you.
1953
01:48:34,090 --> 01:48:37,040
And the under-40s have my sympathy,
1954
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:41,010
they've grown up thinking the values
of the free market are normal,
1955
01:48:41,010 --> 01:48:44,040
that everything's up for sale and
that we are all customers
1956
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:47,050
in a set of transactions,
whose needs must be met.
1957
01:48:47,050 --> 01:48:49,040
And everything is up for sale,
isn't it?
1958
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,070
The forests, national parks,
education, health.
1959
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:56,020
You know, further education, for
example, wasn't supposed to be a
1960
01:48:56,020 --> 01:49:01,000
transaction which increased the
cash value of the customer
1961
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,000
in the job market place.
1962
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,000
Further education was supposed to be
an opportunity to participate,
1963
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,090
ideally for no charge,
1964
01:49:08,090 --> 01:49:11,070
in a quest to enlarge
the global storehouse
1965
01:49:11,070 --> 01:49:13,070
of all human understanding...
1966
01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:16,070
..admittedly whilst drinking
heavily subsidised alcohol...
1967
01:49:17,090 --> 01:49:19,020
..and losing your virginity
1968
01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:21,020
in a tower block named after
Winnie Mandela.
1969
01:49:27,020 --> 01:49:29,040
But we're all customers now,
whose needs must be met.
1970
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,050
And the best example of this
customer mentality, I think,
1971
01:49:32,050 --> 01:49:38,060
I saw on the guestbook of the
TripAdvisor holiday review website.
1972
01:49:38,060 --> 01:49:42,080
Now, I've got a ten-year-old boy
and he's a massive Doctor Who fan.
1973
01:49:44,010 --> 01:49:47,090
And his favourite Doctor Who thing
is not the multi-billion pound
1974
01:49:47,090 --> 01:49:51,010
Doctor Who World place
in Cardiff Bay.
1975
01:49:51,010 --> 01:49:56,020
It's a little museum in the cramped
two-room cellar of a little cottage
1976
01:49:56,020 --> 01:50:00,060
in the square of the Herefordshire
market town of Bromyard.
1977
01:50:00,060 --> 01:50:03,090
And this cellar is full of the
eccentric owner's mad collection
1978
01:50:03,090 --> 01:50:07,070
of Doctor Who props and costumes
and sets, all crammed in there.
1979
01:50:07,070 --> 01:50:10,050
It's called The Time Machine
Doctor Who Museum.
1980
01:50:11,060 --> 01:50:13,090
And all around Bromyard,
there's posters of the Tardis,
1981
01:50:13,090 --> 01:50:17,000
it says, The Time Machine
Doctor Who Museum,
1982
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:21,070
and it is made abundantly clear that
The Time Machine Doctor Who Museum
1983
01:50:21,070 --> 01:50:24,060
is an entirely
Doctor Who-based museum.
1984
01:50:26,010 --> 01:50:27,010
But...
1985
01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:30,010
There is a one-star review
1986
01:50:30,010 --> 01:50:33,030
of this Doctor Who museum
on TripAdvisor.
1987
01:50:35,090 --> 01:50:36,090
And it says...
1988
01:50:38,010 --> 01:50:43,060
"The Time Machine Doctor Who Museum
has very limited appeal,
1989
01:50:43,060 --> 01:50:44,090
"except for Doctor Who fans."
1990
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,080
"We were in and out in 25 minutes,
1991
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,060
"and that was after going
round twice."
1992
01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:56,090
They went round twice.
They went round once,
1993
01:50:56,090 --> 01:51:02,040
and they couldn't believe how little
non-Doctor Who content there was
1994
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,030
in the Doctor Who Museum,
thought if they went round again,
1995
01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:08,050
they might see a diorama of the
life of Isambard Kingdom Brunel,
1996
01:51:08,050 --> 01:51:11,010
or an interactive display of the
mating cycle
1997
01:51:11,010 --> 01:51:13,030
of the Asian short-clawed otter.
1998
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:16,050
It's a Doctor Who museum,
you can't complain
1999
01:51:16,050 --> 01:51:21,070
that there was too much Doctor Who
stuff in the Doctor Who museum.
2000
01:51:21,070 --> 01:51:24,080
It's not aimed at you,
not everything's aimed at you.
2001
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,050
It reminds me
of an elderly relative who,
2002
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:35,020
on having gone to see Andrew
Lloyd-Webber's musical Cats,
2003
01:51:35,020 --> 01:51:39,090
complained to me afterwards that she
hadn't been expecting it all
2004
01:51:39,090 --> 01:51:41,070
to be just about cats.
2005
01:51:47,050 --> 01:51:51,060
And a person under 40 came up to me
after a gig and he said to me,
2006
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:54,080
"I didn't really enjoy that,
to be honest, mate."
2007
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,070
And I said, "I don't know what you
expect me to do about it.
2008
01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:06,010
"You just paid to see me,
2009
01:52:06,010 --> 01:52:07,010
"and I AM me."
2010
01:52:16,050 --> 01:52:18,060
But we've turned away,
2011
01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:20,080
it would seem to me,
2012
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,010
from the wider world.
2013
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:27,070
Everyone's looking inwards, back
through their own boundaries,
2014
01:52:27,070 --> 01:52:29,010
back through their own borders.
2015
01:52:30,030 --> 01:52:33,010
And you have to pay
for everything now
2016
01:52:33,010 --> 01:52:35,080
and nothing comes for free,
2017
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,030
except the last U2 album.
2018
01:52:39,070 --> 01:52:44,020
Whether you wanted it or not,
you know, like a Trojan virus.
2019
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:51,050
And I don't really know what I'm
supposed to say to any of you now,
2020
01:52:51,050 --> 01:52:53,090
because you all live in a
2021
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:56,090
reflecting hall of digital mirrors,
2022
01:52:56,090 --> 01:53:03,040
made of Facebooks and Twitters and
Snapchats and Instagrams
2023
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:06,060
and Deliveroos
and selfies and Whassaps...
2024
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,050
You're the kind of people who are
run over by a bus because
2025
01:53:13,050 --> 01:53:17,050
you were crossing the road whilst
looking at a bus timetable app.
2026
01:53:22,010 --> 01:53:26,020
And they say you shouldn't keep
dolphins in concrete tanks,
2027
01:53:26,020 --> 01:53:31,020
because the endless sound of their
own sonar bouncing back at them
2028
01:53:31,020 --> 01:53:33,030
eventually drives them mad,
2029
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:36,040
like someone locked
in an aluminium-lined cell,
2030
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,030
listening to an endless loop of
every ill-considered 2am tweet
2031
01:53:40,030 --> 01:53:43,080
they ever sent out. And that is you,
you are the mental dolphins of now.
2032
01:53:44,090 --> 01:53:48,080
Inward looking, self-obsessed people
with no attention span,
2033
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:52,010
hurling yourselves fatally out of
your tanks
2034
01:53:52,010 --> 01:53:54,030
in the self-inflicted wounds
2035
01:53:54,030 --> 01:53:56,040
of your imagined democratic choices.
2036
01:53:58,010 --> 01:54:01,050
And it's no surprise to me that
you've all gone mad,
2037
01:54:01,050 --> 01:54:04,030
because you've all got phones on you
all the time, haven't you?
2038
01:54:04,030 --> 01:54:07,040
With cameras, and you all take
photos all the time, don't you,
2039
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,060
of your face, over and over again.
2040
01:54:10,060 --> 01:54:15,030
Your face. Your face. Your face.
Your face. Why?
2041
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:20,010
Surely you all know what your
own faces look like now?
2042
01:54:20,010 --> 01:54:22,030
And your entire online digital
history
2043
01:54:22,030 --> 01:54:25,070
is just an endless succession
of images of your face
2044
01:54:25,070 --> 01:54:29,000
obscuring an endless succession
of things that are all
2045
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,050
more interesting than your face.
2046
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:35,010
Here's me at Stonehenge.
2047
01:54:35,010 --> 01:54:37,060
Here's me at the Taj Mahal.
2048
01:54:37,060 --> 01:54:40,080
Here's me at the
Deacon Blue reunion concert.
2049
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,090
CHEERING
2050
01:54:42,090 --> 01:54:45,040
And I don't know what I'm supposed
to say to you,
2051
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:48,070
or what anyone is supposed
to say to anyone.
2052
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:51,080
Because nothing that anyone could
ever have to say
2053
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,080
could possibly be as
interesting as the ongoing,
2054
01:54:55,080 --> 01:55:00,010
moment-by-moment documentation of
your entire lives.
2055
01:55:01,010 --> 01:55:04,070
And so, when I look
at this painting...
2056
01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:11,010
APPLAUSE
2057
01:55:15,020 --> 01:55:18,060
Caspar David Friedrich's
2058
01:55:18,060 --> 01:55:23,030
1818 German romantic masterpiece,
2059
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:26,020
Wanderer Above A Sea Of Fog,
2060
01:55:26,020 --> 01:55:30,000
I see a man like me,
200 years ago now,
2061
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:34,040
looking out into the world
and trying to make sense of it,
2062
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,090
and his place in it, instead of just
using it as a backdrop
2063
01:55:37,090 --> 01:55:39,070
for his own narcissism.
2064
01:55:42,060 --> 01:55:45,000
But this, this is you now...
2065
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:54,020
APPLAUSE
2066
01:55:54,020 --> 01:55:57,060
Do you think that it could be said
2067
01:55:57,060 --> 01:56:01,080
you are projecting your
own narcissism
2068
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:05,070
onto the entire rest of
modern culture?
2069
01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:08,040
Yeah, I mean, they could say that,
2070
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,050
and I was worried that someone
would think that,
2071
01:56:10,050 --> 01:56:12,070
because it's arguably true.
2072
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:16,020
But I don't give them time to make
that conclusion,
2073
01:56:16,020 --> 01:56:19,090
because as soon as the blackout's
had just a second to register,
2074
01:56:19,090 --> 01:56:23,020
I fling the lights up, play really
loud music, and run away.
2075
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,070
That's very courageous of you,
Stewart.
2076
01:56:33,070 --> 01:56:36,090
ROCK MUSIC PLAYS
2077
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,120
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