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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 http://Scene-RLS.net 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,030 This programme contains very strong language and adult humour. 3 00:00:08,030 --> 00:00:11,070 FLOORBOARDS CREAK 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Well, Stewart, hello. 5 00:00:18,090 --> 00:00:23,010 I think I'd like to start off by asking... 6 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:29,000 ..how you see yourself at this late juncture of your career? 7 00:00:30,010 --> 00:00:34,080 I mean, what is it that you exactly think you're doing? 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,090 I don't know, 9 00:00:35,090 --> 00:00:39,050 and it's not something that I feel is good enough to be broadcast. 10 00:00:39,050 --> 00:00:40,080 I want to stop this now, 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,050 but there's always just enough of an inducement to carry on 12 00:00:43,050 --> 00:00:46,010 and there doesn't seem to be any way of bringing it to a close. 13 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:47,040 The series was cancelled. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,090 I was told by BBC Two Comedy that they didn't want any more. 15 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:52,020 Then another bloke sort of intervened and said, 16 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:54,060 "Oh, maybe you should..." MUSIC DROWNS HIM OUT 17 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:57,010 People of Southend, Essex, 18 00:00:57,010 --> 00:01:03,090 it's time now to endure the stand-up comedy of the comedian, Stewart Lee! 19 00:01:03,090 --> 00:01:05,010 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 20 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:14,040 MUSIC STOPS 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,050 Thank you for coming. 22 00:01:15,050 --> 00:01:18,030 Right. Let's crack on and tell you what's happening. 23 00:01:18,030 --> 00:01:20,050 So, there's a number of problems with this show. 24 00:01:20,050 --> 00:01:22,090 The main one, right, is that I, OK... 25 00:01:22,090 --> 00:01:25,040 I started writing this about 18 months ago, OK? 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,050 And the idea was it was going to be two hours on the notion 27 00:01:28,050 --> 00:01:31,020 of the individual in a digitised free-market economy. 28 00:01:31,020 --> 00:01:34,040 OK? And I was going to base it all around this painting, 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,090 which is Caspar David Friedrich's 1818 German romantic masterpiece 30 00:01:38,090 --> 00:01:40,040 Wanderer Above A Sea Of Fog. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,020 Now, hopefully you've all had the e-mails, 32 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:44,040 and you've done the reading you'll need to have done. 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,040 LAUGHTER 34 00:01:47,020 --> 00:01:50,060 Then I did about a month's work on that and then the Brexit vote 35 00:01:50,060 --> 00:01:53,020 happened, right, and there seemed to an assumption everywhere 36 00:01:53,020 --> 00:01:55,030 that I should have written some jokes about Brexit. 37 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:57,030 Now, I haven't written any jokes about Brexit, 38 00:01:57,030 --> 00:01:59,070 cos I was trying to write a show that I could keep on the road 39 00:01:59,070 --> 00:02:02,070 for 18 months and as I didn't know how Brexit was going to pan out, 40 00:02:02,070 --> 00:02:05,060 I didn't write any jokes about it in case I couldn't use them in the show 41 00:02:05,060 --> 00:02:07,080 and monetise the work I've done, right? 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,000 So, I haven't written any jokes about Brexit, 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,050 cos I didn't see the point of committing to a course of action 44 00:02:12,050 --> 00:02:15,040 for which there's no logical or financial justification. 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,030 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 46 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:20,030 That's right, clap the things you agree with! 47 00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:21,050 LAUGHTER 48 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:23,050 Clap, clap, clap! Agree, agree, agree! 49 00:02:23,050 --> 00:02:25,030 "Did you see Stewart Lee in Southend?" 50 00:02:25,030 --> 00:02:26,060 "Yeah." "Was it funny?" 51 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:28,090 "No, but I agreed the fuck out of it." 52 00:02:28,090 --> 00:02:30,000 LAUGHTER 53 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,010 "It's almost as if it were targeted at my exact social demographic, 54 00:02:33,010 --> 00:02:37,030 "in a cynical attempt to maintain a future-proof audience for long-term 55 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:39,030 "mortgage repayment purposes." 56 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:43,090 Can it be, Southend, that the future of Britain, Europe, Southend, 57 00:02:43,090 --> 00:02:48,020 the world, has been altered forever as a result, it would appear, 58 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:51,080 of the ongoing competitive rivalry of a small group of competitive 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,080 posh men, right? It looks like that's what's happened. 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,010 When he was a student, 61 00:02:57,010 --> 00:03:00,090 David Cameron put his penis into a dead pig's face, didn't he? 62 00:03:00,090 --> 00:03:02,010 LAUGHTER 63 00:03:02,010 --> 00:03:03,060 And then to outdo him, 64 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:06,040 to do something even more bizarre and obscene, 65 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,080 Michael Gove put his penis into a Daily Mail journalist. 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,090 LAUGHTER 67 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:14,050 Imagine doing that! 68 00:03:14,050 --> 00:03:16,000 Euuurgh! 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,010 Euuuuuurgh! 70 00:03:17,010 --> 00:03:18,010 EUGH! 71 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:22,000 Caustic wit, that, like Toby Young. 72 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,050 You like it? LAUGHTER 73 00:03:23,050 --> 00:03:25,020 And then to outdo him, 74 00:03:25,020 --> 00:03:28,020 to do something even more sick-making and wrong, 75 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:31,040 Boris Johnson put himself into the role of Foreign Secretary. 76 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,050 LAUGHTER 77 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:37,030 And if you think it's funny that Boris Johnson is Foreign Secretary, 78 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:38,080 and it is, arguably, 79 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,080 I guarantee you he's going to be Prime Minister at some point. 80 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Theresa May has been put in place, it's now clear, 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,020 by the steering committee as a sort of palate cleanser. 82 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:50,010 Isn't she? Kind of a... LAUGHTER 83 00:03:50,010 --> 00:03:54,020 ..a nasty-tasting mouthwash that you swill around your gums 84 00:03:54,020 --> 00:03:56,080 before being forced to eat actual human shit. 85 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,080 LAUGHTER 86 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:02,090 A lot of casualties, weren't there, in the Brexit shake-up? 87 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:05,050 A lot of people, you know, Michael Gove and Sarah Vine, 88 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:08,060 they sort of disappeared initially but they're back now, aren't they? 89 00:04:08,060 --> 00:04:10,060 Michael Gove and Sarah Vine. 90 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:13,030 And they're currently trying to reinvent themselves as the 91 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:17,040 amusing celebrity political couple for young millennials so jaded 92 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,070 they no longer find Neil and Christine Hamilton 93 00:04:19,070 --> 00:04:20,090 quite sickening enough. 94 00:04:20,090 --> 00:04:22,010 LAUGHTER 95 00:04:22,010 --> 00:04:25,070 Michael Gove and Sarah Vine are the Neil and Christine Hamilton 96 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:27,090 for the Two Girls One Cup generation. 97 00:04:27,090 --> 00:04:29,000 LAUGHTER AND GROANING 98 00:04:32,060 --> 00:04:33,080 HE SNORTS 99 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,070 Yeah, well... That's a shame. 100 00:04:35,070 --> 00:04:36,070 So... LAUGHTER 101 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:39,080 OK, here's what's happened, right? 102 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,080 This is two nights in Southend and, right, I am aware 103 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,060 Southend's not really my target sort of town, 104 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:50,010 but this was at a nice Victorian theatre, the theatre... 105 00:04:50,010 --> 00:04:51,040 The theatre was available. 106 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,030 And... LAUGHTER 107 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:56,050 Well, it's just that's normally the first big laugh of the night, 108 00:04:56,050 --> 00:04:57,050 that... 109 00:04:58,060 --> 00:05:01,010 ..joke there. With the... LAUGHTER 110 00:05:01,010 --> 00:05:03,010 But we've got a lot of people here. 111 00:05:03,010 --> 00:05:05,020 You've got the sort of target audience here, 112 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:08,000 sort of comedy fans and people that know about, 113 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,050 about the politics and stuff. 114 00:05:09,050 --> 00:05:10,050 And then it's... 115 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:13,070 I've put on too many dates in Southend, basically, 116 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:15,050 there's no... LAUGHTER 117 00:05:15,050 --> 00:05:18,030 Look at these people, this isn't my crowd, is it? 118 00:05:18,030 --> 00:05:19,070 Look at that, Essex. 119 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:20,090 Essex filth. 120 00:05:20,090 --> 00:05:22,080 People that have... LAUGHTER 121 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,030 Market traders on the run from London, aren't they? 122 00:05:25,030 --> 00:05:26,050 LAUGHTER 123 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:29,090 Lost their nerve and come to live in the white supremacist theme park... 124 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:31,000 LAUGHTER 125 00:05:32,090 --> 00:05:33,090 APPLAUSE 126 00:05:35,030 --> 00:05:37,060 Should have been a bigger laugh, that, honestly, 127 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:39,040 that Michael Gove joke, it's a... LAUGHTER 128 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,040 It's a good joke. 129 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,050 So, h... W... 130 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:45,000 Have people brought friends with them? 131 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,090 Cos that often makes it go worse, if people... 132 00:05:46,090 --> 00:05:47,090 LAUGHTER 133 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:51,060 I know what's happened, people that used to come and see me 134 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:55,020 in the little cellar at the Pavilion like 30 years ago, you've gone, 135 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:59,050 "Oh, he'll never fill the Palace Theatre Southend for two nights. 136 00:05:59,050 --> 00:06:04,000 "Let's help him out and we'll buy four tickets, 137 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,040 "and we'll bring Alan and Claire," and they're... 138 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,040 LAUGHTER 139 00:06:09,070 --> 00:06:13,070 They're sitting next to you, your mates, nudging you and going, 140 00:06:13,070 --> 00:06:15,050 "Is this him, is this the main one? 141 00:06:15,050 --> 00:06:16,050 LAUGHTER 142 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:19,030 "Is it just this all night? 143 00:06:19,030 --> 00:06:21,050 "Just a man complaining about things?" 144 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:23,040 Yes, it is, until at least ten o'clock. 145 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,050 LAUGHTER 146 00:06:28,030 --> 00:06:30,040 Don't bring your friends because it's filled it up 147 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,040 with the wrong people, hasn't it? LAUGHTER 148 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,070 So, this perfectly serviceable stuff is floundering. 149 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:35,080 LAUGHTER 150 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:40,020 It's not help... I don't need your help to fill up. 151 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:41,080 This is all sold out. 152 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,000 LAUGHTER 153 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,030 If you're going, "No, it isn't, Stew, there's two there 154 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:47,090 "for starters," right, they're... All the seats are sold, right? 155 00:06:47,090 --> 00:06:50,060 Everything's sold. What's happened to me in the last few years, 156 00:06:50,060 --> 00:06:52,040 and I don't really understand why, right, 157 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,020 but I've become popular enough that the ticket touts buy these seats, 158 00:06:55,020 --> 00:06:58,020 Stub Hub and that, and they try and resell them online. 159 00:06:58,020 --> 00:07:00,060 But I'm not popular enough for anyone in Southend 160 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:02,070 to pay six times over the odds... LAUGHTER 161 00:07:06,020 --> 00:07:09,030 Don't imagine that disheartens me, those empty seats. 162 00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:11,020 Someone's bought them, right? 163 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:12,060 So, I've got the money. It's fine. 164 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:13,060 LAUGHTER 165 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,010 It's actually better cos it means I've got the money 166 00:07:18,010 --> 00:07:20,090 but there isn't one of your stupid friends sitting in them going, 167 00:07:20,090 --> 00:07:22,070 "What are these nouns, how do words work?" 168 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:23,080 You know... LAUGHTER 169 00:07:25,020 --> 00:07:26,050 That's my dream - 170 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:28,020 an entirely sold out empty room. 171 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:29,020 LAUGHTER 172 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,070 Which would eliminate the main problem with all my work, 173 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:37,040 which is the public's ongoing inability to recognise its genius. 174 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,050 It's... LAUGHTER 175 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:43,080 This is a very difficult time in history to do stand-up 176 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,010 and I would appreciate your blanket support, to be honest. 177 00:07:47,010 --> 00:07:48,060 It's very... It's very... 178 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:50,070 Look, I went back on the road in September, I did a week 179 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:53,050 in Oxford, right? That's Remain. Then I did Doncaster. 180 00:07:53,050 --> 00:07:55,060 That's Leave. Then I did Glasgow, Remain. 181 00:07:55,060 --> 00:07:59,030 Dartford, Leave. This is about 60-40 in favour of Leave, wasn't it? 182 00:07:59,030 --> 00:08:02,080 And the Remain-voting cities, now, they loom out of the map, 183 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,030 don't they? Like fantasy citadels in a Tolkien-esque landscape. 184 00:08:07,030 --> 00:08:08,040 LAUGHTER 185 00:08:09,060 --> 00:08:13,060 Wondrous walled cities full of wizards and poets... 186 00:08:13,060 --> 00:08:14,070 LAUGHTER 187 00:08:15,070 --> 00:08:17,070 ..and people who could understand data. 188 00:08:17,070 --> 00:08:18,070 LAUGHTER 189 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:24,020 In the middle of a vast, swampy fen, 190 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:26,030 with, "Here there be trolls" written over it. 191 00:08:26,030 --> 00:08:27,070 LAUGHTER 192 00:08:27,070 --> 00:08:29,070 Yeah, down here, laughter up there. 193 00:08:29,070 --> 00:08:32,010 People going, hang on... "Trolls, Stew? 194 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:34,050 "That's not a very fair way, you know... 195 00:08:34,050 --> 00:08:37,060 "We are in Leave-voting Southend-on-Sea. 196 00:08:37,060 --> 00:08:41,030 "Trolls, that's not a very fair way to describe the English and Welsh 197 00:08:41,030 --> 00:08:44,030 "majority that exercised their democratic right to vote 198 00:08:44,030 --> 00:08:46,050 "to leave the EU." And it isn't, to be fair. 199 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:49,030 You know, and I think, look, we're going to leave the EU. 200 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:51,090 That is happening. And I think people have got to put their 201 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:54,020 differences behind them now and try and make it work. 202 00:08:54,020 --> 00:08:58,030 And I don't know if you can make massive generalisations about people 203 00:08:58,030 --> 00:09:02,020 that voted to leave Europe anyway because people voted to leave Europe 204 00:09:02,020 --> 00:09:04,040 for all sorts of different reasons, you know, 205 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,090 and it wasn't just racists that voted to leave Europe. 206 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:08,000 LAUGHTER 207 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:10,080 Cunts did as well, didn't they? 208 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,090 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 209 00:09:13,090 --> 00:09:15,070 Stupid fucking cunts. 210 00:09:15,070 --> 00:09:16,070 LAUGHTER 211 00:09:18,010 --> 00:09:19,020 Racists... 212 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:20,030 LAUGHTER 213 00:09:20,030 --> 00:09:21,050 ..and cunts... 214 00:09:21,050 --> 00:09:22,050 LAUGHTER 215 00:09:25,060 --> 00:09:27,070 NASALLY: ..and people with legitimate anxieties 216 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:29,070 about ever-closer political ties to Europe. 217 00:09:29,070 --> 00:09:30,080 LAUGHTER 218 00:09:32,050 --> 00:09:34,040 "Dear Palace Theatre Southend... 219 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,060 LAUGHTER 220 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:38,090 "..please inform the comedian, and I use that word advisedly..." 221 00:09:38,090 --> 00:09:39,090 LAUGHTER 222 00:09:41,010 --> 00:09:43,070 "..Stewart Lee, who I had the misfortune of being taken along 223 00:09:43,070 --> 00:09:45,010 "to see by friends last night..." 224 00:09:45,010 --> 00:09:46,030 LAUGHTER 225 00:09:46,030 --> 00:09:49,020 "..that I actually voted to leave Europe, 226 00:09:49,020 --> 00:09:51,050 "and I am neither a racist nor a cunt..." 227 00:09:51,050 --> 00:09:52,050 LAUGHTER 228 00:09:53,070 --> 00:09:56,010 "..merely someone with genuine anxieties 229 00:09:56,010 --> 00:09:59,030 "about ever-closer political ties to Europe. 230 00:09:59,030 --> 00:10:01,000 "Yours, A Cunt." 231 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,010 LAUGHTER 232 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,070 "Burnham-on-Crouch." 233 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:06,010 LAUGHTER 234 00:10:06,010 --> 00:10:07,090 That's where they live, isn't it? 235 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:12,060 Burnham-on-Crouch. 236 00:10:12,060 --> 00:10:15,090 You know what? I don't know anything about Burnham-on-Crouch. 237 00:10:15,090 --> 00:10:18,070 I just drove through it, I thought, "That'll do for that joke." 238 00:10:18,070 --> 00:10:21,010 LAUGHTER 239 00:10:21,010 --> 00:10:23,040 It's the first time it's got a laugh. 240 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,070 LAUGHTER 241 00:10:24,070 --> 00:10:25,070 So... 242 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:29,010 Yes, welcome to the music hall. 243 00:10:29,010 --> 00:10:30,070 So... 244 00:10:30,070 --> 00:10:33,070 No, but it's difficult. You can't make massive... 245 00:10:33,070 --> 00:10:37,040 To be fair, you can't make massive generalisations about people 246 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,050 that voted to leave Europe. 247 00:10:38,050 --> 00:10:41,010 People did vote to leave Europe for all sorts of different... 248 00:10:41,010 --> 00:10:43,030 They did, don't snigger away down there! 249 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:46,030 They voted for all... You know, not everyone that voted to leave Europe 250 00:10:46,030 --> 00:10:49,030 wanted to see Britain immediately descend into being 251 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:51,080 an unaccountable single party state, 252 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,050 exploiting people's worst prejudices to maintain power indefinitely. 253 00:10:56,070 --> 00:10:59,070 Some people just wanted bendy bananas, didn't they? 254 00:11:02,060 --> 00:11:04,000 "Aw, no! 255 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,030 "I only wanted bendy bananas... 256 00:11:06,030 --> 00:11:10,070 "and now there's this chaotic inferno of hate." 257 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:14,080 "Ah well, never mind. 258 00:11:15,090 --> 00:11:18,080 "At least the bananas are all bendy again, aren't they? 259 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,090 "Like they always fucking were." 260 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,050 A lot of people voted to leave Europe as a protest vote, 261 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:30,060 which, I understand that, I sympathise with it. 262 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:33,050 If you spend your life driving around the country, like me, 263 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:36,010 you can see the disparity that would drive that. 264 00:11:36,010 --> 00:11:38,060 My best friend of 35 years, Ian, 265 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:41,090 actually voted to leave Europe as a protest vote. 266 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:44,040 But I believe it was I who wrote... 267 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,080 GENTLE LAUGHTER 268 00:11:47,010 --> 00:11:49,030 Still these people doing the work, isn't it? 269 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:51,000 Down here, there's a... LAUGHTER 270 00:11:53,070 --> 00:11:56,090 There's a big laugh there that was missed, right, and I'm filming this, 271 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:58,080 and I would appreciate... LAUGHTER 272 00:12:01,010 --> 00:12:03,020 OK, where... What... Where the... 273 00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:05,030 Do you know what? 274 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:08,020 I'm going to try. I'm going to try and sort this out now, 275 00:12:08,020 --> 00:12:09,050 for the filming, so... 276 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:12,010 Where the laugh should have been there, right, is when I went... 277 00:12:12,010 --> 00:12:13,030 SMALL GROUP LAUGHS 278 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:14,080 I know you know, it's... 279 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,090 LAUGHTER 280 00:12:15,090 --> 00:12:17,020 "I know, sir!" 281 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:18,020 LAUGHTER 282 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,090 The kind of people that like me, innit? 283 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:27,010 MAN LAUGHS 284 00:12:27,010 --> 00:12:28,010 Yeah, you. 285 00:12:28,010 --> 00:12:29,090 LAUGHTER 286 00:12:29,090 --> 00:12:31,090 Cackling sycophants. LAUGHTER 287 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,070 The people that are with him hate him, because he goes to them, 288 00:12:36,070 --> 00:12:39,070 "Have you not heard of Stewart Lee? He's amazing, I can't believe it. 289 00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:42,010 "Probably the best comedian... 290 00:12:42,010 --> 00:12:44,030 "No, he's not been on Live At The Apollo, obviously. 291 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,050 "You know, I think when you've seen him, 292 00:12:48,050 --> 00:12:50,060 "you can't really watch other comedians. 293 00:12:50,060 --> 00:12:53,020 "It's more like art, really." 294 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,090 Yeah. The kind of people that like me, innit? 295 00:12:57,090 --> 00:12:59,050 Wankers, basically. 296 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,050 But, you know, without them, that was... 297 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:06,000 OK, the laugh there should have been when I said... 298 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:09,050 "I believe it was I who wrote," right? 299 00:13:09,050 --> 00:13:12,000 What they're laughing at down there, they're going, 300 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,050 "Oh, yeah, he's parodying the idea," 301 00:13:14,050 --> 00:13:18,010 the perception of myself as a sort of patronising elitist 302 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:20,010 who would quote his own work as a... 303 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,070 But, you know, you're just going, "What an arrogant man," aren't you? 304 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:26,040 Up there, so it's not... 305 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,090 But anyway, try and listen in and close the gaps up 306 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:31,070 because we need to... LAUGHTER 307 00:13:31,070 --> 00:13:33,050 So, I believe it was I who wrote... 308 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:34,080 LAUGHTER 309 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,050 I don't accept the second laugh. 310 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:38,030 I only take the first one, so... 311 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,020 It was me, it was in the Observer, 312 00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:43,010 it was a very clever piece. 313 00:13:44,050 --> 00:13:46,050 David Mitchell's ill a lot, isn't he? 314 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:47,050 So... 315 00:13:51,010 --> 00:13:54,050 I wrote, "Voting to leave Europe as a protest vote 316 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:58,060 "is a bit like shitting your hotel bed as a protest against bad service 317 00:13:58,060 --> 00:14:01,050 "and then realising you now have to sleep in a shitted bed." 318 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:06,050 And my friend Ian, my best friend, Leave voter, he said to me, 319 00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:08,070 "Your metaphor doesn't make sense, Stew." 320 00:14:08,070 --> 00:14:10,070 He said, "By your own admission, 321 00:14:10,070 --> 00:14:13,090 "the EU is institutionally flawed and freedom of movement 322 00:14:13,090 --> 00:14:17,070 "can lead to exploitation of the labour market, so in a way," 323 00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:20,020 he said, "There was already some shit in the bed." 324 00:14:20,020 --> 00:14:23,070 And I said, "Yes, Ian, but if there's already some shit 325 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:25,060 "in the bed, you don't fix that 326 00:14:25,060 --> 00:14:28,010 "by doing even more shit... 327 00:14:28,010 --> 00:14:30,040 "..into the already shatted bed." 328 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:35,000 And my friend Ian said, "No, you move into a different bed." 329 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,060 And I said, "Yes, Ian, but what if that different bed, 330 00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:39,000 "instead of some shit, 331 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,040 "has got Boris Johnson in it?" 332 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:46,070 And my friend Ian reluctantly conceded that he would remain 333 00:14:46,070 --> 00:14:48,010 in the original shatted bed. 334 00:14:51,070 --> 00:14:54,050 Now, that joke initially appeared in the Observer, as I said, 335 00:14:54,050 --> 00:14:57,060 leading to a lively below-the-line online debate amongst readers 336 00:14:57,060 --> 00:15:00,080 as to whether the past participle of shit was shatted or shitted. 337 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,050 Very much a key market for me, those people. 338 00:15:08,050 --> 00:15:11,020 The left-leaning, scatological pedant community. 339 00:15:14,030 --> 00:15:17,070 But the out-of-touch metropolitan liberal elites, 340 00:15:17,070 --> 00:15:20,030 they didn't see that Brexit vote coming, did they? 341 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:23,000 The out-of-touch, metropolitan, liberal elites. 342 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,010 Who are the metropolitan liberal elites? 343 00:15:26,010 --> 00:15:29,030 Well, according to Garry Bushell, in the Daily Star, 344 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:32,010 if you're in my audience, it's you. 345 00:15:32,010 --> 00:15:35,020 And never has that been less true than it is here tonight, 346 00:15:35,020 --> 00:15:38,070 in Southend-on-Sea... LAUGHTER AND CHEERING 347 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:41,040 ..in a hive of racists. 348 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,040 So... 349 00:15:46,030 --> 00:15:47,030 Who are... 350 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,030 Who are the metropolitan liberal elite? 351 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:53,050 The metropolitan liberal elite, I think, are... 352 00:15:53,050 --> 00:15:56,050 They're the sort of people who preferred the Labour Party 353 00:15:56,050 --> 00:15:59,000 in the '90s, when they looked like a load of coke dealers 354 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,020 at an advertising agency... 355 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:02,080 ..as opposed to now, 356 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,090 when they look like Catweazle and his army of furious tramps. 357 00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:12,030 Fighting each other to the death over the last bottle 358 00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:14,000 of Diamond White... 359 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,090 ..in a burning skip in a Lidl car park. 360 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,060 I live in London, in N16, north London, 361 00:16:23,060 --> 00:16:25,080 which is classic out-of-touch 362 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,030 metropolitan liberal elites' territory. 363 00:16:28,030 --> 00:16:29,060 N16, north London. 364 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:32,090 This is how out of touch the metropolitan liberal elite are, 365 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:34,030 where I live, in north London. 366 00:16:34,030 --> 00:16:37,090 The weekend before the vote, the Brexit vote, a bloke I vaguely know, 367 00:16:37,090 --> 00:16:39,060 he sent out a tweet and he said, 368 00:16:39,060 --> 00:16:41,070 "Don't worry about the Brexit vote," he said. 369 00:16:41,070 --> 00:16:46,080 "I've just been out for brunch in a gastropub in Islington, 370 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,030 "and absolutely no-one there's voting to leave." 371 00:16:52,070 --> 00:16:54,070 So, in a way, they had it coming, didn't they? 372 00:16:54,070 --> 00:16:56,090 With their spiralisers... 373 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Yeah, the courgettes taste the same, don't they? 374 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Whatever shape the... 375 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 That tells you a lot about the room, doesn't it? 376 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,020 Look, down here, amongst the elite, the spiraliser jokes, 377 00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:11,010 they're going, "Ah-ha!" 378 00:17:11,010 --> 00:17:14,060 And as we spread up there, friends of the theatre, 379 00:17:14,060 --> 00:17:15,090 "What is a spiraliser?" 380 00:17:15,090 --> 00:17:18,090 And then right at the top, some lone usher, 381 00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:20,040 "What's a courgette?" 382 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,040 The joke... 383 00:17:22,090 --> 00:17:25,000 The joke failing on three levels. 384 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,050 Three levels, simultaneously. 385 00:17:27,050 --> 00:17:29,060 Only I can give you this, 386 00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:32,060 triple simultaneous joke failure, there. 387 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:33,090 So... 388 00:17:37,050 --> 00:17:41,020 But, er, whatever your line of work, whatever your politics, 389 00:17:41,020 --> 00:17:43,040 you're going to be affected by the Brexit. 390 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,070 I am a content provider in my job, and I've spent the best part of 391 00:17:47,070 --> 00:17:50,050 three decades now travelling around the country, 392 00:17:50,050 --> 00:17:53,070 providing stand-up comedy content from a sort of centre-left, 393 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:55,070 liberal position. I've done very well out of it, 394 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:57,030 I'm not going to lie. 395 00:17:57,030 --> 00:17:59,030 But the problem I've got now is, 396 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:04,010 how do you write a one-size-fits-all stand-up show to tour around 397 00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:06,040 divided Brexit Britain? It is very difficult. You know, 398 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,010 you might have a joke Tuesday night, you're in Harrogate, Oxford, 399 00:18:09,010 --> 00:18:11,030 Cambridge, Glasgow - round of applause. 400 00:18:11,030 --> 00:18:13,060 Next night, Lincoln - glassed in the face. 401 00:18:14,090 --> 00:18:16,010 By the Mayor! 402 00:18:20,090 --> 00:18:23,050 So, I don't know what this show's going to be when I finally 403 00:18:23,050 --> 00:18:25,010 abandon it at the end of the month. 404 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:27,090 All I know is, whatever it ends up being, 405 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:31,020 it will always open with the following sentence... 406 00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:34,080 So, my multiple British Comedy and Bafta award-winning BBC Two series 407 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,010 got cancelled. 408 00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:40,010 Presumably because it was unprecedentedly 409 00:18:40,010 --> 00:18:43,020 critically acclaimed, whilst also being incredibly cheap to make. 410 00:18:48,030 --> 00:18:51,060 Although I notice there is money at the BBC for a proposed remake 411 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:53,000 of Are You Being Served?. 412 00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:57,000 Educate, innovate, entertain. 413 00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:01,050 APPLAUSE 414 00:19:01,050 --> 00:19:03,030 Now... 415 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:05,030 The weird thing, I think, 416 00:19:05,030 --> 00:19:07,090 about trying to remake Are You Being Served? at the moment 417 00:19:07,090 --> 00:19:10,070 is that the British retail industry doesn't really exist any more, 418 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:13,070 does it? The new Are You Being Served? 419 00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:15,090 should be set in an Amazon delivery warehouse. 420 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,060 Mrs Slocombe stands in a massive shed off the M6... 421 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:26,050 ..making incomprehensible cat-based double entendres... 422 00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:28,040 ..about her own vagina... 423 00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:34,010 ..to loads of poorly-paid and soon-to-be-deported 424 00:19:34,010 --> 00:19:35,030 Eastern European workers. 425 00:19:35,030 --> 00:19:37,050 QUIET LAUGHTER 426 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:39,030 No, again, nothing from you on that? 427 00:19:39,030 --> 00:19:42,070 It's a big... A big news story, that, the, uh... 428 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Actually, you know what? 429 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,010 That used to be... All last year, that was a big laugh, that joke, 430 00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:51,070 but it's sort of gone off the boil since Christmas. 431 00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:53,030 It's not really your fault. 432 00:19:53,030 --> 00:19:55,060 It stopped working, that joke, and I was, um... 433 00:19:56,060 --> 00:19:58,050 I was trying to think why it was. It was good. 434 00:19:58,050 --> 00:20:01,000 All last year, it worked. What it is, I think, is... 435 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,060 OK, if you think about how stand-up works, right? 436 00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:08,060 Basically, you either overstate a perceived truth for comic effect 437 00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:12,040 or you overstate a contrary position for comic effect, 438 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,060 and all stand-up is basically those two binary positions recombined. 439 00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:20,000 Er... Yeah, that's ruined it for everyone, hasn't it? 440 00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:23,040 That's bankrupted Netflix. 441 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,070 But, um... 442 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:31,040 But... So, why that was working last year was because the perception was, 443 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,040 wasn't it, that the Europeans weren't being told they could stay 444 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,030 after Brexit, and that was a sort of negotiating tool for Theresa May 445 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:40,080 in Brussels. So, I'd go... 446 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,070 "..soon-to-be-deported Eastern European workers" and the audience 447 00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:47,030 would go, "Ha-ha, yeah, that's true! Ha-ha," like that. 448 00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:49,010 But then... 449 00:20:49,010 --> 00:20:51,080 The last gig I did before Christmas was December 9th, 450 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,010 and I did that joke in London and it sort of went off half-cocked, 451 00:20:55,010 --> 00:20:57,080 like tonight. And I thought, well, why is that? 452 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,010 There's normally some reason. 453 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:01,020 So, I went home and I googled it. 454 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:04,050 And what had happened that day, or the day before - and I didn't know, 455 00:21:04,050 --> 00:21:07,070 but the audience obviously did - was that in Brussels, 456 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:12,050 Theresa May had said that Europeans could remain after Brexit. 457 00:21:12,050 --> 00:21:16,040 So, I went, "Soon-to-be-deported Eastern European workers," 458 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080 and some people went "Ah-ha!", and then other people with them went, 459 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,050 "No, she said they can stay now." 460 00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:25,040 "Is that right, yeah? 461 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,060 "Oh, it's not funny, then." 462 00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:28,000 So... 463 00:21:29,090 --> 00:21:32,000 That was the last gig before Christmas. 464 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,050 The next one was January 2nd and I thought, "Maybe I should cut 465 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:38,010 that line," but I didn't want to, cos it gets me from the joke 466 00:21:38,010 --> 00:21:43,010 about Amazon into another joke about charity shops, right? 467 00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:45,060 And it's just a smooth... 468 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:48,030 Erm... So I thought, I'll hold on to it, see what happens, you know? 469 00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:49,030 And then... 470 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,090 So, I did it again, January 2nd. 471 00:21:51,090 --> 00:21:55,030 And it's a well-constructed joke, as well. 472 00:21:55,030 --> 00:21:56,070 I know that, cos it goes... 473 00:21:56,070 --> 00:22:00,010 It goes, "Na na na na na na na na, na na na na na... 474 00:22:00,010 --> 00:22:02,020 "soon-to-be-deported Eastern European workers." 475 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:04,010 Bang, like that. It's got a hard... 476 00:22:04,010 --> 00:22:06,040 It ends on, or near, a hard consonant, 477 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,010 which is important, as well. 478 00:22:08,010 --> 00:22:09,050 "Work...workers." 479 00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:11,030 Bang, like that. 480 00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:13,090 That's how you... If you look at Frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr, 481 00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:16,010 all their jokes end on hard consonants. 482 00:22:16,010 --> 00:22:18,030 Bang! And that sort of triggers the laugh. 483 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:21,000 With me, it's a little bit different. I... 484 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,030 I don't always end on a hard consonant. 485 00:22:23,030 --> 00:22:26,010 Sometimes, I'll put an extra beat in after it. 486 00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:28,050 And that's why a lot of you are sitting there going, 487 00:22:28,050 --> 00:22:30,070 "This guy's hilarious, but I don't know why." 488 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:32,090 And it's because I'm, um... 489 00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:38,020 The comics you go and see normally, they're sort of in 4/4 time, 490 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:40,040 but I'm like... It's like a jazz thing, really. 491 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,030 It could go... 492 00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:44,000 I know where the beat is, but I'm... 493 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,000 It's probably too advanced, what I'm talking about. 494 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,070 So it's, um... 495 00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:52,040 I'm not saying it's better than them, but it's... 496 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,050 WHISPERS: Yeah, it is. 497 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:55,060 Well, it's... 498 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:56,070 But, so... 499 00:22:58,070 --> 00:23:01,090 Anyway, I did it again on January 2nd, 500 00:23:01,090 --> 00:23:04,040 "Soon-to-be-deported Eastern European workers," bang! 501 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,030 And there was even less laughs than three weeks previously. 502 00:23:07,030 --> 00:23:10,010 So, I thought, "Well, what's going on here?" So, I went and looked on 503 00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:12,020 all the news. What had happened - I didn't know - 504 00:23:12,020 --> 00:23:15,000 was a few days after Theresa May had said the Europeans could stay 505 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,010 after Brexit, somebody, a reporter, said to David Davis, 506 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:22,060 the negotiator, they said to him, "So, the Europeans can stay?" 507 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:25,060 And he went, "Well, we said that in Brussels, but we can just change it, 508 00:23:25,060 --> 00:23:27,010 "we don't have to abide by it." 509 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,070 So, I think what happened on the night was, I went, 510 00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:33,090 "Soon-to-be-deported Eastern European workers," 511 00:23:33,090 --> 00:23:37,010 and somebody went, "Ah, yeah," and other people went, 512 00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:39,080 "No, Theresa May said they could stay." 513 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,080 "Oh." 514 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,070 And then someone else went, "No, David Davis has said it's..." 515 00:23:47,010 --> 00:23:49,090 And in that moment, the laugh had gone, really. 516 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:52,000 Because if you think about it... 517 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,010 ..laughter's a very instinctive thing, isn't it? 518 00:23:54,010 --> 00:23:57,050 You just laugh. You don't sort of canvass opinion about people 519 00:23:57,050 --> 00:23:59,030 around you and then decide... 520 00:24:02,030 --> 00:24:05,010 So, it doesn't work, that joke, but what I'm saying is, it's not my... 521 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:06,080 It's not my fault. 522 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,030 It's because there's not...there's... 523 00:24:10,030 --> 00:24:13,010 We don't know what the Government position is, so it's... 524 00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:17,040 You can't write a joke in relation to it when it's not clear... 525 00:24:20,010 --> 00:24:22,070 Do you see what I'm saying? What I'm saying is, there's not... 526 00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:25,010 It's not my... There's not enough... 527 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:27,080 The problem is, at the moment, 528 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,030 there's not enough clarity in the negotiating position 529 00:24:30,030 --> 00:24:33,010 for that joke to work. 530 00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:35,080 Do you know, I dread to think how this is affecting people 531 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,010 in other lines of work, because... 532 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,090 You know, I mean, I'm... I'm trying to... 533 00:24:44,030 --> 00:24:47,050 I'm just trying to get a joke that would get me from Amazon 534 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:51,030 to charity shops, and the lack of clarity in the Brussels negotiations 535 00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:52,050 means it's... You know, 536 00:24:52,050 --> 00:24:55,090 what if you're trying to order staff or supplies? It's just... 537 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,080 I'm not trying to make this all about me. 538 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000 I'm saying it's a bigger... 539 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,080 You know, whatever your politics, you've got to admit it, 540 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,090 it's a difficult... 541 00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:08,050 I mean, I don't know if there's enough trained negotiators 542 00:25:08,050 --> 00:25:11,070 in this country for vast swathes of this show to ever be funny again, 543 00:25:11,070 --> 00:25:12,090 to be honest. 544 00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:18,080 But, anyway, what I'm saying is, it's... It used to be a big... 545 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,060 ..uh, laugh there, but the, the... 546 00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:26,060 ..the circumstances haven't so much changed as they've just 547 00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:30,090 become unclear, so it's very difficult to know whether to cut it 548 00:25:30,090 --> 00:25:33,050 or rewrite it, because you could change it, couldn't you? 549 00:25:33,050 --> 00:25:35,030 And then the next thing you know... 550 00:25:35,030 --> 00:25:36,040 You... HE SIGHS 551 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,010 Who even goes shopping now? 552 00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:52,020 Yeah, see, that feels weird now. 553 00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:55,030 Cos that's... That's supposed to come off the back of, 554 00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:58,010 "Blah-blah-blah, Amazon - who even goes shopping now?" 555 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,000 Who even goes shopping now? 556 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,010 Even the... 557 00:26:06,010 --> 00:26:07,010 Ugh, come on! 558 00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:08,010 Even... 559 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:15,020 Yes, we can hear one person clapping on their own. 560 00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:17,060 You know, that's the terrible thing, I've got hearing... 561 00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:19,070 I've got hearing aids now, the last couple of years. 562 00:26:19,070 --> 00:26:22,070 So, in the silence, I can hear one man clapping, 563 00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:25,030 and sort of encouraging, patronising... 564 00:26:25,030 --> 00:26:26,030 "Go on!" 565 00:26:30,010 --> 00:26:32,030 People up there, the friends of the theatre, 566 00:26:32,030 --> 00:26:35,050 I can hear them going, "He doesn't seem to be able to do stand-up". 567 00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,060 I can, I... 568 00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:42,070 I'm very good at it! 569 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:46,080 I can do what you think stand-up is, this is what you like, isn't it? 570 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,080 CHIRPILY: "Who even goes shopping now?! 571 00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:53,090 "Who goes shopping now?! Ooh!" 572 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:56,050 "I don't, do you? No, ooh!" 573 00:26:57,090 --> 00:27:00,020 That's what you like, innit? 574 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Who even goes shopping now? 575 00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,090 You know... 576 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:20,010 Even the charity shops are doing home deliveries, aren't they? 577 00:27:20,010 --> 00:27:21,050 "No." They fuck...! 578 00:27:21,050 --> 00:27:24,000 They fucking are! If I say... 579 00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:29,010 "Who even goes shopping? 580 00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:31,000 "Even the charity shops are doing home..." 581 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,050 "They're not." "They are! So..." 582 00:27:32,050 --> 00:27:33,090 They are! 583 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:36,090 So, if you ever fancy getting 100 copies of the last 584 00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:39,030 Rufus Hound Live stand-up DVD... 585 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,000 ..for a pound, 1p each, yeah, you don't even have to leave the house. 586 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,060 Why? Because the charity shops are doing home deliveries. 587 00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:50,050 "They're not, mate, it's not cost effective!" 588 00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:52,010 They are! 589 00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:53,070 They've got kids on bikes... 590 00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:58,010 They've got drones doing it. 591 00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:59,010 If you... 592 00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:02,010 HE SPLUTTERS 593 00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:04,060 The charity shops are doing home deliveries! 594 00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:06,000 "They're not!" They are. 595 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,020 So, if you ever fancy getting 100 copies of the same Alan Carr Live 596 00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:13,030 DVD for a pound... 597 00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:15,010 "1p each?!" Yeah! 598 00:28:15,010 --> 00:28:17,090 GASPING: You don't even have to leave the house... 599 00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:21,030 "Why?" The charity shops are doing home... 600 00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:22,070 You know what? 601 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:24,040 Forget it. Forget the fuck... 602 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,060 I'm going to do this routine. 603 00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:32,060 I'm on high blood pressure medication. It's not... 604 00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:37,070 It's not safe for me to perform this routine with the level of commitment 605 00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:40,000 the upper circle of Southend appear to require! 606 00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:44,090 I don't want to die doing this, here. 607 00:28:46,090 --> 00:28:49,030 I wouldn't mind dying on stage if it was like Tommy Cooper. 608 00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:51,040 Do you remember that, older people? Tommy Cooper, 609 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,030 when he died on stage at the London Palladium. 610 00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:54,070 And I'm not trying to take the piss. 611 00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:57,000 It was an amazing thing and a brilliant way to go out 612 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,070 for a comedian. 7,000 people in the room all laughing, and he died, 613 00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:02,030 and they thought it was a joke. 614 00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:04,080 It was an amazing way to go out for a comedian. 615 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,090 But I wouldn't want to die here in this gig. 616 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,070 With him, clapping sycophant, 617 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:15,040 on Twitter afterwards, going, 618 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,090 "Uh, I've just seen Stewart Lee's last gig." 619 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:21,050 "What was it like?" "It was a struggle for him in many ways. 620 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,090 "It was a shame. 621 00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:26,050 "It was a real... A lot of people weren't into it. 622 00:29:26,050 --> 00:29:28,010 "But, yeah, it wasn't... 623 00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:29,090 "It...it was not his best. 624 00:29:32,060 --> 00:29:34,070 "He looked ill, actually. He looked ill. 625 00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:38,010 "He looked like he was struggling, you know?" 626 00:29:41,030 --> 00:29:44,070 We'll drop the charity shop routine, we'll move onto the next bit. 627 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,090 There is no charity shop routine. 628 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,080 There is no charity shop routine, mate. 629 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,020 Every night, I just pretend... 630 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,090 "It's the best bit as well, what a shame! What a shame..." 631 00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:02,020 Each night is exactly the same. 632 00:30:02,020 --> 00:30:05,070 All the things happen, they happen the same every night, 633 00:30:05,070 --> 00:30:09,040 and somehow the sort of cross-section of people that comes 634 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080 to see me, whether I'm in Aberdeen or Southend, 635 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,050 they seem to be the same. They are self-replicating. 636 00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:18,070 No place is any different to the other, and the show goes 637 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:20,080 beat-for-beat the same every night, 638 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,050 and I don't know how long I can carry on doing that. 639 00:30:24,050 --> 00:30:28,080 Well, I mean, especially with the state of you, 640 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,050 you're obviously in the worst physical condition of your life. 641 00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:35,020 Performing at this level with this degree of enthusiasm... 642 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:37,040 It's going to kill you, isn't it? It's going to kill me. 643 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,080 It's going to kill me.And this will not be one of those memorable 644 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,020 Tommy Cooper...No. 645 00:30:42,020 --> 00:30:47,070 ..demises, in front of an audience of loving, affectionate... 646 00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:51,010 Yeah...happy, contented laughing people. 647 00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:53,010 Yeah.This will be in front of your audience. 648 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Well, the worst thing that could possibly happen is on the verge 649 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,010 of dying on stage and getting a Tommy-Cooper-like send-off, 650 00:31:02,010 --> 00:31:05,030 I'll somehow manage to shuffle off and expire in the wings, 651 00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:08,040 which will have no comic or artistic value whatsoever. 652 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:11,060 All I'm saying is this, right? 653 00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:15,050 All those '90s and noughties TV panel show, Live At The Apollo, 654 00:31:15,050 --> 00:31:19,040 Netflix comedians, right? You can get all their live DVDs, 655 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,000 second-hand, on the internet, on Amazon, on eBay, for 1p each. 656 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,010 All of them, 657 00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:26,020 1p! 658 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:30,070 But the cheapest that you can get... 659 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:32,020 LAUGHTER 660 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:34,030 Well, we'll see how funny it is, won't we, madam? 661 00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:35,060 When we hear... 662 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:38,020 When we hear how much it is. 663 00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:44,010 The cheapest that you can get my 2004 live DVD for, 664 00:31:44,010 --> 00:31:47,030 second-hand on the internet, how much do you think it is, madam? 665 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040 This is a quick little exchange, really, that... 666 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,030 ..speeds the evening along. 667 00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:54,050 �5? 668 00:31:57,090 --> 00:32:01,030 Have you seen this before? Have you tried to fuck this up on purpose? 669 00:32:04,030 --> 00:32:06,090 For God's sake, tonight of all the... 670 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,090 It's not �5, no. 671 00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:13,040 You panicked, didn't you? 672 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,030 I could see... 673 00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:16,040 �5... 674 00:32:17,050 --> 00:32:18,090 It's �3.67. 675 00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:19,090 Now... 676 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:25,090 Right, what's happened the other... 677 00:32:27,010 --> 00:32:31,010 ..208 nights of this tour - it's �3.67, my DVD. 678 00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:34,000 I go to the person there, I say, "How much do you think it is?" 679 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,010 They go, "50p," or "�1," or "10p," or something, 680 00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:39,050 which is less than �3.67. 681 00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:42,090 And then I say, "�3.67." 682 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:45,020 And there's a kind of mock heroic triumph in the room, 683 00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:46,090 people going, "Yes! Aah! 684 00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:48,070 "More than they said, yeah!" 685 00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:51,050 But what's happened tonight, you weren't to know, were you? 686 00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:56,070 It's very kind of you to think that it would be five... 687 00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:58,050 What's your name, madam? 688 00:32:58,050 --> 00:32:59,090 What is it? 689 00:32:59,090 --> 00:33:02,000 No, don't shake your head, you have a name! 690 00:33:03,020 --> 00:33:05,030 What is it? 691 00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:07,030 Annette.Annette, yeah. 692 00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:08,070 Annette, very kindly, has... 693 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,070 ..massively overestimated the... 694 00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:16,020 She's gone �5, I've gone �3.67. 695 00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,090 And where there's normally joy, 696 00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:20,060 the people of Southend are already struggling, look at them. 697 00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:22,050 They've gone... 698 00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:24,050 They've gone, "Ooh, that's awkward, isn't it? 699 00:33:24,050 --> 00:33:28,080 "Because it's less. It's much less than he said." 700 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,020 So, that's ruined. 701 00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:31,050 But... 702 00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:34,000 That's normally another bit where there's a bit of a lift, 703 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,070 but all those bits tonight are being sabotaged, so that's good. 704 00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:38,070 But, um... 705 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:44,040 So, er... 706 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,050 This is... 707 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:50,010 I'll be really amazed if this makes the edit, but if it does, 708 00:33:50,010 --> 00:33:52,050 then that's the camera to get it on there. 709 00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:53,050 So... 710 00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:57,010 It's �3.67, right? 711 00:33:57,010 --> 00:34:01,000 Which is still... Yes, that's right, cry and blow your nose. 712 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000 It's still... 713 00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:07,070 It's still 367 times more than anybody else's 714 00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:10,050 second-hand live DVD, right? 715 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:12,000 But that would have been... 716 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,030 You could have cheered a little bit there, couldn't you? 717 00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:16,090 And recovered from the damage that your representative 718 00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:18,070 has done to the evening. 719 00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:21,030 But instead, Brexit-vague Southend have sat there and thought, 720 00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:23,040 "Let's make this bloke suffer and then..." 721 00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:29,010 It's 367 times more than anybody else's, right? 722 00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:30,090 Which is... You know what? CHEERING 723 00:34:30,090 --> 00:34:32,070 Don't patronise me, it's too late. 724 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,070 LAUGHTER 725 00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:34,090 No, forget it! 726 00:34:34,090 --> 00:34:37,030 The moment... WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE 727 00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:39,040 Right, you can clap! 728 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,090 You can clap and cheer as sarcastically as you like, Southend! 729 00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:50,090 But it doesn't change the fact that I am the �3.67 king 730 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:53,010 of the obsolete physical media market, right? 731 00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:56,030 But there's a reason for that, and it's this, OK? 732 00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:58,060 I always sell DVDs and books after the gig, 733 00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:00,070 I probably won't bother tonight, to be honest, 734 00:35:00,070 --> 00:35:02,010 but I normally do. 735 00:35:02,010 --> 00:35:07,090 And the cheapest that I can get the 2004 live DVD at source, new, 736 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:11,080 from the warehouse in Colchester is �3.50, OK? 737 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,030 So, I have to put it on for ten quid, right? 738 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:17,060 Because I have to give 10% to 25% commission to the venue, 739 00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:21,020 that's �2.50 off the ten, 15% to the promoters, 740 00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:24,010 that's another �1.50 off the ten, that's four gone. 741 00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:27,080 Another 15% to the agent, that's �1.50, 742 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,060 that's �5.50 gone off the ten. 743 00:35:30,060 --> 00:35:34,020 �3.50 for the DVD in the first place. 744 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:37,040 That's �9 gone off the ten. 745 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,020 This doesn't normally get laughs, 746 00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:41,030 but I'm happy to take whatever comes 747 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:45,000 from the Southend Accountants' Theatre Trip up there at the back! 748 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,040 "This is the bit I told you about. 749 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,050 "It's hilarious! 750 00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:55,030 "Because presumably, he's self-employed, schedule D, 751 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:58,090 "but he doesn't seem to have realised that he could put the 752 00:35:58,090 --> 00:36:03,000 "initial DVD purchase through as a tax-deductible business..." 753 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,010 I do, right? 754 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:07,070 Why is this going better than proper jokes? 755 00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:10,020 Just... Right, I do know that! 756 00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:11,020 But I put the... 757 00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:14,050 I put it through at the end of each quarter, 758 00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:16,060 not with the balance of each... 759 00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:19,010 It doesn't make any difference, as long as you... 760 00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:22,090 Who are you?! Who's come to this?! 761 00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,000 "Politics, words, we're not interested in that. 762 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,010 "What we like is numbers being added up!" 763 00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:35,010 So, you've got a pound... 764 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:39,030 When I did this tonight, I thought, "I hope it's a really unique night 765 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:40,030 "that we're filming," 766 00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:42,010 and it fucking is! 767 00:36:42,010 --> 00:36:43,040 Right? 768 00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:48,050 So, you've got �1 left, right? 769 00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:49,080 That's taxed, isn't it? 770 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:55,070 Business rates... 22%, so you've got 78p left from the ten. 771 00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:57,090 Then there's other costs - transport, storage. 772 00:36:57,090 --> 00:37:01,040 So, basically, a �3.50 DVD sold for ten quid, 773 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,030 I'm normally looking at about 60p, 70p profit, right? 774 00:37:04,030 --> 00:37:07,070 So, what I do, OK? I can never sleep after gigs, right, 775 00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:10,030 because of the crazed adrenaline rush that is surge... 776 00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:16,090 Come on, look at what you've seen me dealing with! 777 00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:19,040 I've got a woman here, right, normally people go for 10p, 778 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,000 that works. She said �5, it's the highest anyone's ever said 779 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,010 in 18 months. 780 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:27,070 But it didn't floor me, did it? 781 00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:29,050 No. I've rolled with it. 782 00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:31,050 I came, I went, "No." 783 00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:32,090 It's not... 784 00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:35,000 I did! You couldn't do this. 785 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,030 If you were to do this, you'd cry. 786 00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:40,060 You couldn't do this. And that's why I'm up here like a god, right? 787 00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:45,020 And you're down there in the dark, like pigs in an Essex ditch. 788 00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:55,080 So, I'm awake, so what I do, I can't sleep, I go on the internet, 789 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,010 I go on Amazon, I go on eBay, drunk, right? 790 00:37:58,010 --> 00:38:03,010 And first of all, I buy loads of 1970s Turkish funk albums, right? 791 00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,090 Yeah - Mogollar, Selda, Erkin Koray - the usual names. 792 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:12,070 "Bunalim, Stew?" No, too metal. 793 00:38:12,070 --> 00:38:14,020 So... 794 00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:18,030 What do you want? 795 00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:19,090 So... 796 00:38:19,090 --> 00:38:22,080 "I love the adding up and the Turkish funk stuff. 797 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,060 "Other than that..." SCATTERED APPLAUSE 798 00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:27,030 It's getting applause, the Turkish funk stuff. 799 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:29,000 Yeah, I'm bang on the meme. 800 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,050 So... 801 00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:33,050 Does that exist, that phrase? Have I invented it, what's going on? 802 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:34,060 So... 803 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,010 When... 804 00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:41,010 When I've... 805 00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:43,090 When I've bought all the Turkish funk, right, 806 00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:48,020 I start looking around for that 2004 live DVD, and if I see it anywhere 807 00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:50,050 second-hand for less than �3.50 - 808 00:38:50,050 --> 00:38:53,070 �3.40, �3.35 - 809 00:38:53,070 --> 00:38:55,080 I buy it, 810 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,050 slip it in with the new ones... 811 00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:02,030 I'm looking at an extra 10 or 15 pence profit. 812 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:07,030 I tell you what, tonight, for that bit, 813 00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:10,050 it's good to be out of London and be in Essex, because in London, 814 00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:13,000 the sort of people that live there now, when I do that, they go, 815 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,040 "Huh, 15 pence?" But all you lot, ex... 816 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:20,070 Expatriate Cockney market trading, aren't you? 817 00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:22,080 "15p? That's a good return on that! 818 00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:27,080 "We've left London now." 819 00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:31,000 I know why. 820 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,020 Sometimes you get lucky, 821 00:39:35,020 --> 00:39:37,070 there's a company on the internet called Music Magpie. 822 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:40,040 They had 20 copies of it for �3.40 each, right? 823 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,070 And I bought them all, OK? 824 00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:44,070 And the bloke at Music Magpie - Rick, he's called - 825 00:39:44,070 --> 00:39:47,010 he sent me a sarcastic note with the order, he put, 826 00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:48,020 "How sad", he put, 827 00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:52,010 "How sad, buying your own DVDs second-hand on the internet." 828 00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:55,050 But it isn't sad, is it? Because I made two quid on that, clear profit. 829 00:39:58,070 --> 00:40:02,050 So my DVDs are �3.67, that is 367 times, Annette, 830 00:40:02,050 --> 00:40:06,020 more than any other stand-up's second-hand DVD live. 831 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:08,050 But, to be fair, there's a reason for that. 832 00:40:08,050 --> 00:40:10,010 I'm like a corrupt banker, aren't I? 833 00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:13,010 I've kind of manipulated the market to drive up the perception 834 00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:15,080 of my commodity in the marketplace, you know? 835 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,090 To be fair to Jimmy Carr, for example - 836 00:40:17,090 --> 00:40:21,060 whose DVDs are all 1p second-hand on the internet - 837 00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:23,090 He's not awake, is he, at two o'clock in the morning 838 00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:26,030 buying his own DVDs second-hand on Amazon 839 00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:29,020 to resell off a trestle table in Southend-on-Sea. 840 00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:30,030 He's not doing that. 841 00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:36,030 Imagine if he was? Imagine if Jimmy Carr was on Amazon buying something 842 00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:38,030 that he never paid the tax on what he got paid 843 00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:40,030 for doing it in the first place, 844 00:40:40,030 --> 00:40:43,060 from a company that don't pay any of their tax either. 845 00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:47,050 Is it possible to imagine a more tax-avoiding transaction 846 00:40:47,050 --> 00:40:52,010 than Jimmy Carr buying a Jimmy Carr DVD on Amazon? 847 00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:56,070 Only if he found it using Google on a Vodafone phone 848 00:40:56,070 --> 00:41:00,050 whilst paying Gary Barlow to spit cold Starbucks coffee 849 00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:02,010 into his splayed anus... 850 00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:08,010 ..while the cast of Mrs Brown's Boys stand around singing 851 00:41:08,010 --> 00:41:11,090 I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. 852 00:41:11,090 --> 00:41:15,050 There's not a single taxable juncture in the entire transaction! 853 00:41:19,090 --> 00:41:21,080 Now, if you've been looking carefully, 854 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,020 you'll notice the whole of this set tonight is actually made entirely 855 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:28,070 out of other stand-up comedian's second-hand live DVDs. 856 00:41:29,090 --> 00:41:31,070 I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone, 857 00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:36,010 what I wanted to do was get all the DVDs and pile them up 858 00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:40,000 and then hang hessian sacking over them so they looked like 859 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,090 the rocks and cliffs in that painting. 860 00:41:41,090 --> 00:41:44,040 But I didn't do that idea in the end, 861 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,060 but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to make fun of the other 862 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:49,090 comedians by making this set out of their DVDs. 863 00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:51,010 I'm not. 864 00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:54,020 It's just that other comedians' live DVDs are currently 865 00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:56,040 the cheapest building material available. 866 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,040 APPLAUSE 867 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,090 Of course, what I hadn't factored in is that it's actually quite 868 00:42:08,090 --> 00:42:12,060 depressing to look at this every night for a year. 869 00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:15,050 You know, it is, because I am a comedian, right? 870 00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:18,070 And, you know, I got all of these DVDs for 1p online, 871 00:42:18,070 --> 00:42:22,040 or 50p in that CEX exchange place. 872 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,060 And of course, what is sad is, 873 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:26,030 there are actually lots of really good ones here. 874 00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:28,030 And it's very depressing... 875 00:42:28,030 --> 00:42:34,010 ..to think of them just becoming a sort of pile of worthless landfill. 876 00:43:16,030 --> 00:43:18,030 No, but it is sad, because...because... 877 00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:23,060 Well, this was a big deal, wasn't it? 878 00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:27,010 The Christmas comedy DVD market and that's...that's over. 879 00:43:27,010 --> 00:43:29,080 And everything's in collapse, you know? 880 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,010 The Government are trying to close down the BBC. 881 00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:34,010 I don't know how that'll affect comedy. 882 00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:36,070 Actually, after the second series I did for the BBC, 883 00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:40,070 I got offered more money by Sky to go and do two series for them. 884 00:43:40,070 --> 00:43:42,040 But I didn't. 885 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,090 I didn't go to Sky and I stayed at the BBC for less money. 886 00:43:44,090 --> 00:43:48,010 And I've not talked about this on stage before. 887 00:43:51,010 --> 00:43:52,090 All right, I'll tell you why. 888 00:43:52,090 --> 00:43:57,010 It's because I think if you make an ethical choice about something, 889 00:43:57,010 --> 00:44:00,030 it's a private matter and you shouldn't go around crowing... 890 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,030 ..crowing it from the rooftops to try and engineer the perception 891 00:44:04,030 --> 00:44:06,090 of yourself as some kind of national cake-baking treasure. 892 00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:09,080 Know what I mean? 893 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,000 But I started talking about it on stage last year. 894 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,030 And in the summer, Sky's lawyers sent me a very threatening 895 00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:21,050 cease-and-desist letter saying 896 00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:23,090 I wasn't to say Sky had offered me more money than the BBC, 897 00:44:23,090 --> 00:44:26,060 because they hadn't. And I went through the paperwork, and I went, 898 00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:29,050 "There's the offer, there's the minutes of the meeting." So they... 899 00:44:29,050 --> 00:44:32,030 They backed off. But that gives you an indication of the extent to which 900 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:34,010 I'm a pariah in the comedy business, 901 00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:36,070 that a broadcaster would take legal action to deny 902 00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:39,000 ever having wanted to work with me. 903 00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:45,060 But there's all sorts of reasons not to appear on Rupert Murdoch's 904 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:47,010 evil Sky and one of them, of course, 905 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:49,070 is that I know it's not really me they want. 906 00:44:49,070 --> 00:44:53,020 They don't want me. They want you to watch Sky because I'm on it. 907 00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:56,070 They want you, the ABC1, going-to-the-theatre, 908 00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:58,050 reading sort of people, 909 00:44:58,050 --> 00:45:00,080 to start watching Sky so they can advertise 910 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,000 the sorts of things that you buy. 911 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,050 Like cappuccinos and spiralisers and courgettes. 912 00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:11,080 If you watch Sky at the moment, all the advertising is for knives, 913 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,010 masking tape and bin bags. 914 00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:22,040 You know, I wish I had gone to Sky, for the money, right, but I can't. 915 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,090 Because if you are a sort of broadly liberal comedian and you appear 916 00:45:25,090 --> 00:45:27,050 on Rupert Murdoch's evil Sky, 917 00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:31,030 my concern is you're going to lose your core audience, 918 00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:34,090 which tonight is about seven people down there in Southend. 919 00:45:36,090 --> 00:45:39,010 Alan Partridge, the fictional character, 920 00:45:39,010 --> 00:45:42,080 he can appear on Rupert Murdoch's evil Sky because that is exactly the 921 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,000 kind of channel Alan Partridge would appear on if he was real, isn't it? 922 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,030 You know, if you were watching Sky News and Eamonn Holmes came on 923 00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:52,050 and then Kay Burley and then Alan Partridge you'd go, 924 00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:55,030 "Ooh, Sky have raised the quality of their journalism." 925 00:45:57,070 --> 00:46:00,080 And I wish I could appear on Sky for the money, I wish I could, right, 926 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,050 but I can't. 927 00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:05,030 Because the character of Stewart Lee that I've created... 928 00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:12,060 ..would have smug, liberal, moral objections to appearing on Sky. 929 00:46:14,050 --> 00:46:16,080 And I'm coming to hate the character of Stewart Lee. 930 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,090 I'm coming to despise the character of Stewart Lee 931 00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:24,060 in the same way as Rod Hull came to hate Emu. 932 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080 I even hate this, what I'm saying now. 933 00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:33,090 Pretentious, meta-textual, self-aware shit. 934 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,060 "What's wrong with proper jokes?" 935 00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:40,080 That's what I say to me. 936 00:46:47,010 --> 00:46:50,050 You know, Russell Howard's not involved in an ongoing interrogation 937 00:46:50,050 --> 00:46:52,020 of the divided self, is he? 938 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,040 No, he's going... 939 00:47:37,070 --> 00:47:39,010 "We've all done it. 940 00:47:45,090 --> 00:47:48,050 "You've run out of toilet roll, 941 00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:49,080 "you use a sock." 942 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000 His own clothing. 943 00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:03,010 For excrement! 944 00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:07,030 What is that? Observational comedy from a Victorian mental hospital? 945 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,070 "We've all done it. You wake up, don't you, about six in the morning? 946 00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:18,060 " 'Get up!' Then about 11 o'clock, the gentry come round, don't they, 947 00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:21,000 "in their top hats, smashing you in the face with canes, 948 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,060 "then in the afternoon, you're chained to a bed and spat at. 949 00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:25,030 "You try and escape. We've all done it." 950 00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:29,010 I'd go and see that. 951 00:48:34,060 --> 00:48:39,050 All the young, 20-something comedians, in their 20s. 952 00:48:41,020 --> 00:48:45,080 They all complain to me about me doing a joke about Russell Howard, 953 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,030 all the 20-somethings. 954 00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:50,040 They go, 955 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,090 DRONING VOICE: "Aw, mate... 956 00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:59,050 "Ma-a-a-ate! 957 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,070 "Aww-w! 958 00:49:05,020 --> 00:49:08,010 "Ma-a-a-a-a-ate! 959 00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:10,070 "Aw, mate! 960 00:49:10,070 --> 00:49:12,080 "Aaw! 961 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,030 "Aw, mate! 962 00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:16,040 "Aaw! 963 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,020 "A-A-Aw, ma-a-a-a-ate. 964 00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:23,090 "Mate, no! 965 00:49:23,090 --> 00:49:24,090 "Aw... 966 00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:30,040 "Aw, mate, no! No! 967 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,070 "No, mate! Aw! 968 00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:36,030 "Mate, no! 969 00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:39,010 "Mate, what have you...? 970 00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:41,010 "Aw, mate. 971 00:49:41,010 --> 00:49:44,070 "What you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 972 00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,020 "Aw, mate. 973 00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:52,070 "Mate? 974 00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:55,090 "Hey, mate. Mate. Ma-a-a-ate. 975 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,090 "Mate, why you having a go at Russell, mate?" 976 00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:08,010 "Mate, what...? Wha-a-a-a-a...? 977 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,010 "Mate, what you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 978 00:50:16,030 --> 00:50:19,030 "Mate, what you having a go at Russell Howard for? Aaahhh! 979 00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:20,050 "A-A-A-Ah! 980 00:50:22,070 --> 00:50:27,010 "Mate, what you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 981 00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:29,050 "Mate, what you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 982 00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:31,000 "Mate. Mate. 983 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,010 "Mate, mate. 984 00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:35,000 "Mate, what...? 985 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000 "Whuuuhhhh... 986 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,030 "Uhhh! 987 00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:42,090 "What you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 988 00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:44,060 "Mate? 989 00:50:44,060 --> 00:50:47,030 "Mate? What you having...? Whhuuuhhh... 990 00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:50,000 "What you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 991 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,050 "Mate, what you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate? 992 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,060 "What you having a go at whaa...whuuh...maaaa? 993 00:50:59,030 --> 00:51:02,010 "What you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate?" 994 00:51:04,070 --> 00:51:06,050 They all stick up for him. 995 00:51:08,050 --> 00:51:09,080 It's not even fair. 996 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,000 I did one joke about Russell Howard, about ten years ago, and that's all. 997 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,010 One joke. 998 00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:17,080 Admittedly, it was 58 minutes long. 999 00:51:27,070 --> 00:51:28,080 It wasn't even about him. 1000 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,060 It was about a press release about him, which was stupid, right? 1001 00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:33,000 I liked him, to be honest. 1002 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,010 I hate him now, though. 1003 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,060 It's not even his fault, it's my fault entirely, right? 1004 00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:42,070 And why I hate Russell Howard is this, OK? 1005 00:51:42,070 --> 00:51:44,010 Now, this is... 1006 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,040 Oh, right. OK, this is the last sort of seven, eight-minute bit 1007 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,020 of the first half. This... 1008 00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:55,050 This ends on a sentence that normally gets such a big laugh 1009 00:51:55,050 --> 00:51:58,030 that I don't even have to wrap up the show. 1010 00:51:58,030 --> 00:52:01,090 I just walk off while people are still going, "Ha-ha-ha!" 1011 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,040 That won't happen tonight, and I think we know why. 1012 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,070 It's because, God bless them, loads of people have come along tonight. 1013 00:52:10,070 --> 00:52:13,000 They've thought, "Oh, something's come to Southend, 1014 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000 "let's go and see it." 1015 00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:21,000 And this joke relies on people having seen me before or knowing 1016 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,040 something about me. I'd like to drop this bit, to be honest, but I can't. 1017 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,050 But it's, um... 1018 00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:29,070 It looks very relaxed, but actually it's a very tightly structured show 1019 00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:32,020 and I can't drop this bit cos there's stuff in it that sets up 1020 00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:34,010 things in the second half, so I have to do it. 1021 00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:36,050 So we'll just get through it and then we'll have a... 1022 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,000 Right, OK. The reason I hate Russell Howard is this, OK? 1023 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,070 It's because my family, right, they're very nice, OK? 1024 00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:49,040 But they don't... I love them, but they don't read the sort of papers 1025 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,080 where I get good reviews. 1026 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,090 They don't know the sort of people that would like me. 1027 00:52:53,090 --> 00:52:56,060 They're like a lot of the people that have come tonight. 1028 00:52:56,060 --> 00:52:59,040 And, um... 1029 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,060 If they ever see a bit of film of me on YouTube or something like that, 1030 00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:04,050 they think it's so bad, right, what I do, 1031 00:53:04,050 --> 00:53:07,010 that they can't believe I can actually make a living out of this, 1032 00:53:07,010 --> 00:53:09,060 and in fact, they don't believe it. 1033 00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:11,040 So when they talk to me about stand-up, 1034 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,000 they talk to me about it in a sort of sympathetic tone of voice. 1035 00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:19,000 As if they think I'm a delusional mad man, 1036 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,080 who imagines that he's a stand-up comedian, 1037 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080 and if I was to find out that I wasn't, 1038 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,060 I would have a mental breakdown. 1039 00:53:27,060 --> 00:53:29,090 So they sort of ring me up and they go, "Hello. 1040 00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:34,040 "And how is your stand-up comedy going?" 1041 00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:38,040 "Cos that's your job, isn't it? 1042 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,000 "And you do that, don't you, for your work, in your actual life?" 1043 00:53:45,050 --> 00:53:47,090 I'm going, "Yeah, it's fine, I'm just coming to the end 1044 00:53:47,090 --> 00:53:49,050 "of an 18-month tour, actually." 1045 00:53:49,050 --> 00:53:51,010 "I'm sure you are. 1046 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,000 "Been going all round, haven't you, 1047 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040 "and people are all laughing and no-one's walking out?" 1048 00:54:02,090 --> 00:54:05,000 The worst one is my brother-in-law, right? 1049 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,070 He's a really nice bloke, he's 57 and I really like him. 1050 00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:11,030 I'm very lucky to have him, but we're different sort of people. 1051 00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:13,090 He's the kind of bloke who'll ring me up and he'll go, 1052 00:54:13,090 --> 00:54:16,050 "Yeah, I saw you on TV last night having a go at Farage. 1053 00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:18,040 "Quite badly misjudged, I thought." 1054 00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:25,030 But he's really great, and, erm... 1055 00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:27,070 No, he is! I really... No, I do, I really like him. 1056 00:54:27,070 --> 00:54:30,070 But he came to see me once about three years ago in London 1057 00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:33,030 and it was a proper, normal... 1058 00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:35,020 Right, this is a five-star show, right? 1059 00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:37,020 I'm just letting you know. 1060 00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:41,010 This has had across-the-board, five-star reviews, right? 1061 00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:43,090 So I'm just letting you know that if there's a problem 1062 00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:46,050 in this room tonight, it's not on this side of the stage, 1063 00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:48,000 that's all I'm saying, right? 1064 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,040 OK? A five-star show, all right? 1065 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,040 It doesn't feel like it tonight, does it? 1066 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,050 It feels like a four with occasional lurches down towards a three, 1067 00:54:55,050 --> 00:54:56,060 but it is a five. 1068 00:54:57,090 --> 00:55:01,030 Anyway, my brother-in-law came to see me in London, a proper, 1069 00:55:01,030 --> 00:55:05,030 normal, five-star night, not like tonight, full of wilful obstruction, 1070 00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:07,010 indifference and people wandering out. 1071 00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:10,080 It was a normal, five-star... 1072 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,070 But he just didn't like it, you know. And he, afterwards, 1073 00:55:13,070 --> 00:55:16,080 he looked so ashamed and embarrassed he couldn't meet my eye. 1074 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,010 I thought he was going to be sick in the foyer. 1075 00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:22,070 But to be fair to him, my brother-in-law, 1076 00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:25,060 he has no frame of reference whatsoever for this, right? 1077 00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:29,000 Cos he's only ever seen one other thing live in his whole life 1078 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:35,010 and that was, in 1986, at Lancaster Polytechnic, he saw Deacon Blue. 1079 00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:43,050 And I can see him, with his mate in the room, he's going, 1080 00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:46,050 "What is this? It's nothing like Deacon Blue, what is it?" 1081 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,020 Anyway, he rings me up, 1082 00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:53,030 "Hello, how's your comedy? That's your work, isn't it?" 1083 00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:54,070 I'm going, "Yeah, it's fine." 1084 00:55:54,070 --> 00:55:56,080 I said to him, "You sound in a good mood." 1085 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,050 He said, "I am in a good mood." 1086 00:55:58,050 --> 00:56:00,050 I said, "Why?" And he said, "Well," he said, 1087 00:56:00,050 --> 00:56:02,010 "we've been very lucky," he said. 1088 00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:07,050 "We've managed to secure two tickets, 18 months in advance, 1089 00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:11,070 "to the sold-out Royal Albert Hall run of our favourite 1090 00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:15,000 "TV stand-up comedian of all time, Russell Howard." 1091 00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:20,060 And I went, "Oh." 1092 00:56:21,090 --> 00:56:25,000 And he said, "You sound surprised." And I went, "Well, I've just never 1093 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,040 "met an adult, you know, that was going to see Russell..." 1094 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,090 It's for kids, isn't it? For kids. 1095 00:56:29,090 --> 00:56:30,090 And, erm... 1096 00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:37,030 But... And he said to me, "Don't you think he's any good?" 1097 00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:38,090 I went, "Yeah, he's great, you know." 1098 00:56:38,090 --> 00:56:41,060 And then he said to me, in a sarcastic voice, 1099 00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:44,080 my own brother-in-law, he said to me, "Yes," he said, 1100 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,060 "not like you, then," he said, 1101 00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:49,010 "the most critically acclaimed stand-up in Britain." 1102 00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:54,060 Well, that's where the big laugh is, normally. 1103 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,040 Nothing, was there? 1104 00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:05,050 A SINGLE CLAP Yeah, well, bit late for that. 1105 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,060 SCATTERED APPLAUSE 1106 00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:18,090 OK, well... Right, why that normally gets a laugh, right...? 1107 00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:22,000 I see... That is normally such a big laugh I just... 1108 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,030 People are going, "Ah-ha!" and I just walk off. I go... 1109 00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:26,060 OK. Right, it doesn't matter. 1110 00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:29,070 It's nice, actually, that so many people have come 1111 00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:32,020 that didn't really know me and have... 1112 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,030 OK, what it is, why that's... 1113 00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:39,070 OK, you don't know, right, but why it's funny, right, he said to me, 1114 00:57:39,070 --> 00:57:41,080 "Of course, YOU'RE the most critically acclaimed 1115 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,070 "stand-up in Britain," like I'm not, but I AM, right? 1116 00:57:44,070 --> 00:57:46,000 So that's why... 1117 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,020 And they know that. 1118 00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:51,000 That's why they're laughing while the rest of you're going, "Well..." 1119 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,050 No, I am, I am. I'm not... 1120 00:57:53,050 --> 00:57:55,000 No, that's why it normally... 1121 00:57:58,050 --> 00:58:00,050 Don't fucking shake your head at me, right? 1122 00:58:00,050 --> 00:58:02,090 This... It's not up for debate, right? 1123 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,040 I'm the most critically acclaimed stand-up in Britain this century, 1124 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,090 so it's funny that your own family member wouldn't... 1125 00:58:10,090 --> 00:58:11,090 Would not... 1126 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,080 I'm not saying I'm the best, right? 1127 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,050 I'm the most critically acclaimed, I'm not saying I'm the best. 1128 00:58:18,050 --> 00:58:21,010 There's loads of stand-ups better than me. I mean, there's... 1129 00:58:21,010 --> 00:58:22,030 There's Daniel Kitson... 1130 00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:24,040 Ah, there's loads. 1131 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,050 No, I am, I know. So people going... 1132 00:58:33,050 --> 00:58:35,090 I can see them, going, "He can't be, can he? What? 1133 00:58:35,090 --> 00:58:37,090 "There's people walking out." 1134 00:58:40,030 --> 00:58:41,080 You've made this seem arrogant, 1135 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,030 but it's actually a very humble joke cos it's about how... 1136 00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:49,070 Fuck! Right, I have got...I have got... 1137 00:58:52,050 --> 00:58:56,050 I've got two...? I've got three British Comedy Awards, I think. 1138 00:58:56,050 --> 00:58:59,040 I might have two. I can't remember, I've got so many. I've got... 1139 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,080 I've got a Bafta. I've got... 1140 00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:05,080 ..an Olivier Award. None of these people have got that, 1141 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,010 have they, an Olivier Award? 1142 00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:10,000 I've got six Chortle Awards, which is the industry... 1143 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,070 So... It is! 1144 00:59:12,070 --> 00:59:16,020 I've got six consecutive ones for Best Touring Show. 1145 00:59:18,020 --> 00:59:20,060 What d'you want me to do? I can't... You know, this... 1146 00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:24,070 This isn't an end to a half, is it? 1147 00:59:24,070 --> 00:59:27,060 A man pleading the case for his own... 1148 00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:29,070 ..genius while people file out? 1149 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,090 Christ's sake. Let's sort this out, right? 1150 00:59:39,090 --> 00:59:42,020 Right, OK, I appreciate so many people coming, 1151 00:59:42,020 --> 00:59:44,010 taking a punt on this, not knowing what it is. 1152 00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:45,080 I know it's hard to get baby-sitters, 1153 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,060 all that sort of thing. Let's sort this out. 1154 00:59:47,060 --> 00:59:50,000 Let's kick the second half up to five, right? 1155 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,020 We can fix this. 1156 00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:54,050 What I'm going to do... Don't go, stop hanging around the doorway. 1157 00:59:55,090 --> 00:59:57,030 Give me two minutes, right? 1158 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,030 I'm going to fix this. What I'm going to do, just quickly, right, 1159 01:00:01,030 --> 01:00:03,050 I'm going to go over some of the jokes that are coming up 1160 01:00:03,050 --> 01:00:05,090 in the second half... 1161 01:00:05,090 --> 01:00:09,020 No, because then they can ask people about them and... 1162 01:00:14,010 --> 01:00:16,000 I can't afford to lose any more of you. 1163 01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:21,050 Right, in the second half, right, there's going to be... 1164 01:00:21,050 --> 01:00:22,080 This'll take a minute, right? 1165 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,020 There's going to be two more jokes about Deacon Blue, 1166 01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:26,030 the '80s Scottish... 1167 01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:30,070 Right, they're not hilarious jokes, right, but what they are, 1168 01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:32,030 they're what we call "call-backs" 1169 01:00:32,030 --> 01:00:35,080 and they tie back to the earlier mention of Deacon Blue 1170 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,060 and they give the show the illusion of structure, right? 1171 01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:41,070 Which is what raises us above the apes, I think. 1172 01:00:43,010 --> 01:00:45,070 Or "visiting American stand-ups", as I call them. 1173 01:00:48,020 --> 01:00:50,010 Oh, come on, you've seen them, haven't you? 1174 01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:52,060 You're at the O2, seeing the American stand-up. 1175 01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:56,060 It's 95 quid for their 42-minute club set 1176 01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:59,020 and you're sitting there watching the American stand-up 1177 01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:00,030 and you're going... 1178 01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:08,000 "We don't have those cakes here, mate. 1179 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,030 "We don't have those cakes." 1180 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,050 OK, all I'm saying, right, is, 1181 01:01:21,050 --> 01:01:25,050 I don't go to New York and do two hours on Mr Kipling, do I? 1182 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,040 You know, I'm not in Madison Square Garden going, 1183 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,040 "And there's like a shortbread bit... 1184 01:01:36,050 --> 01:01:38,030 "Then there's jam on there... 1185 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,050 "Then there's, like, a Bakewell... 1186 01:01:43,050 --> 01:01:44,080 "Is this on?" 1187 01:01:48,070 --> 01:01:50,020 So to get everyone in the mood, 1188 01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:52,080 I thought I'd play the first Deacon Blue album, Raintown, 1189 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,070 at half-time, right? And I found it, second-hand, on the internet, 69p. 1190 01:01:57,070 --> 01:02:00,000 That's not very good, is it, Annette? 1191 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,060 69p, no! 1192 01:02:05,050 --> 01:02:07,070 I could teach Deacon Blue a thing or two about 1193 01:02:07,070 --> 01:02:09,050 online reputation management. 1194 01:02:09,050 --> 01:02:11,050 What I don't understand is, there's six of them, 1195 01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:14,010 they should be on the internet in shifts, driving that price up. 1196 01:02:16,070 --> 01:02:19,070 D'you know, if there were six of me, my DVD would be about �5? 1197 01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:22,090 APPLAUSE 1198 01:02:22,090 --> 01:02:24,080 That's right. You are right to clap. 1199 01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:29,020 So what you do there, you get a problem, it's not a problem, 1200 01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:31,070 you store it away, bring it back later on. 1201 01:02:33,010 --> 01:02:35,070 I know you're laughing, the people up there, they're going, 1202 01:02:35,070 --> 01:02:38,050 "No-one could be that good. She is a plant, that woman. 1203 01:02:39,050 --> 01:02:45,070 "He takes her round the whole country and she shouts out, '�5.' " 1204 01:02:47,090 --> 01:02:50,090 You're not a plant, are you, Annette? No. 1205 01:02:50,090 --> 01:02:52,050 Only four more shows left, anyway. 1206 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,030 You don't know what's going on now, do you? 1207 01:03:02,030 --> 01:03:06,020 So I ordered it off Music Magpie, Deacon Blue's first album, 1208 01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:09,050 and the bloke, Rick, at Music Magpie, he sent me an e-mail. 1209 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,090 He said, "We're sorry to inform you that Raintown by Deacon Blue, 1210 01:03:14,090 --> 01:03:19,070 "order 2032917358, has failed its final quality inspection." 1211 01:03:19,070 --> 01:03:22,030 So I said, "Well, don't worry if the case is damaged. 1212 01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:24,050 "I just need to play the music at half-time." 1213 01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:27,030 And he said, "No, not its physical quality inspection. 1214 01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:38,080 "Deacon Blue's mix of soulful singer-songwriter sensibilities 1215 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,010 "and plastic mid-'80s production values has not aged well. 1216 01:03:44,050 --> 01:03:48,010 "But we notice from our files that all your fans who buy your live DVDs 1217 01:03:48,010 --> 01:03:51,050 "from us then go on to buy 1970s Turkish funk albums. 1218 01:03:53,030 --> 01:03:56,040 "So as a goodwill gesture, here's some to play in your interval." 1219 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,010 That's the interval now. 1220 01:03:58,010 --> 01:04:00,010 TURKISH FUNK MUSIC PLAYS 1221 01:04:01,070 --> 01:04:05,010 After what is, by your own admission, 1222 01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:08,010 a very disappointing end to the first half 1223 01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:09,090 on every single night of the tour, 1224 01:04:09,090 --> 01:04:12,080 which must be especially dispiriting.Yeah. 1225 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,020 But what do you actually do during an intermission? 1226 01:04:16,020 --> 01:04:18,080 Do you cry, do you comfort eat, or...? 1227 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:23,080 Well, I go offstage and I sit in the dressing room 1228 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,070 and then I go online 1229 01:04:25,070 --> 01:04:29,030 and I look to see if anyone's said anything about it on Twitter. 1230 01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:30,080 That's what I do every night. 1231 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,030 And hopefully, there's bad things on Twitter. 1232 01:04:33,030 --> 01:04:36,010 But then I go out in a more depressed and angry mood, 1233 01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:39,090 which helps with the persona for the second half. 1234 01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:43,070 So I basically contrive a character by looking at things 1235 01:04:43,070 --> 01:04:45,060 that will confirm it. 1236 01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:49,050 I see that you're still clinging to the notion 1237 01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:54,050 that the comedian Stewart Lee is somehow an entity 1238 01:04:54,050 --> 01:04:57,080 that is separate from yourself. 1239 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:01,050 How would you respond to people, often close friends and associates, 1240 01:05:01,050 --> 01:05:05,010 who say that you are pretty much like that all the time? 1241 01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:08,020 Well, it didn't use to be the case and I think now what's happened is, 1242 01:05:08,020 --> 01:05:10,010 I toured this for 18 months 1243 01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:13,020 and I filmed this special at the end of it, 1244 01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:16,090 and I spent so long pretending to be the comedian Stewart Lee 1245 01:05:16,090 --> 01:05:19,080 that I think whoever Stewart Lee was is gone now. 1246 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,020 And I am the comedian Stewart Lee and I'm aware of my own obsolescence 1247 01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:26,090 and this other Stewart Lee, who had his own life and interests, 1248 01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:30,030 that's gone, and I'm hoping I can find him again. 1249 01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:37,030 If the comedian Stewart Lee is a character that you invented, 1250 01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:41,010 then wouldn't you have invented a better one? 1251 01:05:43,070 --> 01:05:45,080 Right, in the first half I said, didn't I, 1252 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,030 I was trying to do two hours on the idea of the individual 1253 01:05:48,030 --> 01:05:50,050 in a digitised, free-market economy. 1254 01:05:50,050 --> 01:05:52,090 I said I was going to base it around this painting, 1255 01:05:52,090 --> 01:05:56,020 Caspar David Friedrich's 1818 German romantic masterpiece 1256 01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:57,050 Wanderer Above A Sea Of Fog. 1257 01:05:57,050 --> 01:06:00,080 Then I said I couldn't do that because I had to talk about Brexit. 1258 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,030 Then I did talk about Brexit for about 25 minutes. 1259 01:06:03,030 --> 01:06:06,050 Then I got back on to talking about digital media, physical media. 1260 01:06:06,050 --> 01:06:09,000 So that was all right, that was the first half, that was done. 1261 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,010 Then, about 16 months ago, I started writing the second half and that was 1262 01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:14,060 coming together all right, and then America voted for Trump 1263 01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:15,080 and there seems... 1264 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,050 OK, there seems to be an expectation everywhere that I should 1265 01:06:19,050 --> 01:06:22,000 have written something about Americans voting for Trump. 1266 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,090 And I haven't written anything about Trump because I'm trying to write 1267 01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:27,050 a show that I can keep on the road for 18 months. And as I didn't know 1268 01:06:27,050 --> 01:06:29,060 how America voting for Trump was going to pan out, 1269 01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:32,040 I didn't write anything about it in case I couldn't keep it in the show 1270 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,090 for the full length of the tour and monetise the work I've done. 1271 01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:37,040 So I haven't written anything about America voting for Trump 1272 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,020 because I don't see the point of committing 1273 01:06:39,020 --> 01:06:40,050 to a course of action for which 1274 01:06:40,050 --> 01:06:42,060 there is no logical or financial justification. 1275 01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:45,010 Well, typically, it's going better down here, isn't it? 1276 01:06:45,010 --> 01:06:47,050 Down here, the elite of Southend. 1277 01:06:48,090 --> 01:06:51,000 They're going, "How amusing, Lee... 1278 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,050 "How amusing, Lee has used exactly the same syntax 1279 01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:58,070 "at the start of both the first and second halves 1280 01:06:58,070 --> 01:07:02,010 "with only two nouns changed in order to drive home 1281 01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:04,050 "the notion that both the Trump and Brexit victories 1282 01:07:04,050 --> 01:07:07,000 "are driven by the same populist rhetoric. How clever." 1283 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,020 People up there are going, 1284 01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,030 "How embarrassing, he's done the same bit twice. 1285 01:07:11,090 --> 01:07:13,000 "He must be drunk. 1286 01:07:14,070 --> 01:07:17,010 "He's an alcoholic, I saw it on Twitter." 1287 01:07:17,010 --> 01:07:18,020 So... 1288 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,010 You know, because I've got a Trump bit, 1289 01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,010 I have to check at half time every night 1290 01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:27,000 that he's not been assassinated 1291 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,040 or fallen into a barrel of porn actresses or something. 1292 01:07:33,030 --> 01:07:37,040 But it does mean that I see the same crass, anti-American generalisations 1293 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,090 online every night on social media, and it annoys me, to be honest. 1294 01:07:40,090 --> 01:07:46,020 Because I don't know if you can make massive generalisations about 1295 01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:47,080 Americans who voted for Trump. 1296 01:07:55,090 --> 01:07:59,050 Because Americans voted for Trump for all sorts of different reasons. 1297 01:08:05,030 --> 01:08:08,030 And it wasn't just racists that voted for Donald Trump... 1298 01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:27,000 Cunts did as well, didn't they? CHEERING 1299 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,080 Yeah. Stupid, fat American cunts. 1300 01:08:31,090 --> 01:08:33,060 The worst kind of cunts, aren't they? 1301 01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:36,060 Much worse than our British cunts, aren't they? 1302 01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:39,010 Salt of the Earth British cunts. 1303 01:08:39,010 --> 01:08:41,010 # British cunts! 1304 01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:43,000 # British cunts! 1305 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,030 # British Brexit-voting cunts from Southend! # 1306 01:08:46,030 --> 01:08:48,000 But... 1307 01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:52,070 That's you, innit? 1308 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:54,030 But I don't know... 1309 01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:58,080 But I don't know if you can make massive generalisations 1310 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,010 about Americans that voted for Trump, seriously. 1311 01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:04,060 I mean, not all Americans that voted for Trump wanted to see America 1312 01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:07,050 immediately descend into being an unaccountable, 1313 01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:10,090 single-party state exploiting people's worst prejudices 1314 01:09:10,090 --> 01:09:12,090 to maintain power indefinitely. 1315 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,010 Some Americans just wanted to be allowed to wear 1316 01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:19,030 their Ku Klux Klan outfits to church, didn't they? 1317 01:09:23,050 --> 01:09:25,040 Perked up, haven't you, at half time? 1318 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,090 Had a little chat, have you, with the people that brought you? 1319 01:09:32,020 --> 01:09:34,080 "Do you think he's funny, John?" "Yes." 1320 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,020 "Oh, I do as well, then." 1321 01:09:38,030 --> 01:09:39,050 You make me sick. 1322 01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:44,090 It's very difficult, though, nowadays, to write a joke 1323 01:09:44,090 --> 01:09:47,000 that everyone either understands or finds funny, 1324 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,010 you know, or relates to. 1325 01:09:48,010 --> 01:09:51,000 And it's partly because we live in such fragmented times 1326 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,020 in terms of how we consume news information. 1327 01:09:54,020 --> 01:09:56,050 There's no dominant, trusted news narrative. 1328 01:09:56,050 --> 01:09:57,080 No news source. 1329 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,000 Everyone's going down their own little digital wormholes. 1330 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,080 And you'll be on some website and it says, "Do you agree with this? 1331 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,060 "Then click on this because it's the same as what you already think." 1332 01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:07,070 And no-one... 1333 01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:11,010 No-one's got any overview, have they? 1334 01:10:11,010 --> 01:10:13,060 And that's partly how a Trump and a Brexit can happen. 1335 01:10:13,060 --> 01:10:15,070 It didn't used to be like that, did it, Southend? 1336 01:10:15,070 --> 01:10:18,080 We used to be part of the collective consciousness, didn't we? 1337 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,090 In 1978, for example, 1338 01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:24,090 28 million British people watched the same 1339 01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:29,020 Christmas Morecambe and Wise as it was broadcast in real time. 1340 01:10:29,020 --> 01:10:32,030 Half the population. And this is held up as a sort of apogee 1341 01:10:32,030 --> 01:10:34,010 of our collective experience. 1342 01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:35,050 But it doesn't really hold water, 1343 01:10:35,050 --> 01:10:38,060 because there was no competition then, was there? There was no DVDs. 1344 01:10:38,060 --> 01:10:40,010 There was no internet. 1345 01:10:40,010 --> 01:10:42,070 And there was only two other TV channels. 1346 01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:45,090 And on one of them was a documentary about Burnham-on-Crouch. 1347 01:10:52,090 --> 01:10:56,050 And on the other was a drawing of a clown sitting near a blackboard. 1348 01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:01,050 And that got 27 million viewers. 1349 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,000 "Did it?" No. 1350 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,000 But young people today are very proud of the fact 1351 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,010 that they don't interact with conventional terrestrial media 1352 01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:20,050 at all, aren't they? 1353 01:11:20,050 --> 01:11:23,050 They go, "Mate, I don't even know what it is, mate. 1354 01:11:23,050 --> 01:11:27,060 "Terrestrial media? I just watch the internet Netflix 1355 01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:29,030 "cable download computer television. 1356 01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:32,010 "You know, I haven't even got the thing that you... 1357 01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:33,060 "I haven't even got any eyes. 1358 01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:37,070 "Mate. 1359 01:11:39,070 --> 01:11:42,050 "I haven't even got any, you know, senses 1360 01:11:42,050 --> 01:11:44,090 "to perceive any physical stimuli. 1361 01:11:46,050 --> 01:11:49,010 "I just have memes Bluetoothed into my cortex. 1362 01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:56,070 "Have you not got the internet Netflix cable Sky computer 1363 01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:59,080 "download television, Stew? Have you not got that, mate? It's amazing. 1364 01:12:01,010 --> 01:12:04,010 "Some amazing things on the internet Netflix cable Sky. 1365 01:12:04,010 --> 01:12:05,070 "I mean there's... 1366 01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:07,080 "There are, there's some really good stuff. 1367 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,010 "I mean, there's Game Of Thrones, for example. 1368 01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:11,050 "Which is... 1369 01:12:11,050 --> 01:12:13,090 "Aw, have you not seen Game Of Thrones, mate? 1370 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,070 "Haaa...you not seen Game...? Uhhhhlll.... 1371 01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:33,030 "Have you not seen Game Of Thrones, mate? 1372 01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:35,010 "It's not just about a gnome, Stew. 1373 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,040 "It's a dwarf anyway, you're racist against gnomes. 1374 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,050 "This is a completely different thing." 1375 01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:48,030 "Have you not seen Game Of Thrones? It's not for kids, Stew. 1376 01:12:48,030 --> 01:12:51,050 "No. I mean, yeah, there's magic in it, but it's not like, 1377 01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:55,010 "you know, Harry Potter or The Faraway Tree or something like... 1378 01:12:55,010 --> 01:12:58,070 "You know, what is magic anyway? That's what I say to you. 1379 01:12:58,070 --> 01:13:01,030 "I mean magic could be, it's, like, kind of 1380 01:13:01,030 --> 01:13:03,070 "energy that we don't understand yet, you know?" 1381 01:13:06,060 --> 01:13:09,030 It could be. I mean, think about it. I mean, once upon a time, 1382 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:13,010 you know, people would have run away from Doritos, wouldn't they? 1383 01:13:13,010 --> 01:13:14,060 But people eat them now. 1384 01:13:14,060 --> 01:13:15,060 And they dip. 1385 01:13:16,090 --> 01:13:20,090 I don't. But, you know, some people, I've seen people eating... 1386 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,080 "Have you not seen Game Of Thrones? 1387 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,080 "I don't know when it's set Stew, no. 1388 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,060 "You know, it could be in the past, yeah. 1389 01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:37,060 "Could be in the future, after Brexit. 1390 01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:40,050 "There's a big wall, cutting off the north of the country. 1391 01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:42,090 "Everyone's in rags, no-one's got any Toblerone. 1392 01:13:42,090 --> 01:13:44,050 "So it could be... 1393 01:13:46,050 --> 01:13:48,070 "Have you really not seen Game Of Thrones, mate? 1394 01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:52,000 "I mean, it's not just about a dragon flying around with a hat on. 1395 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,090 "It's really... It's actually, Stew, 1396 01:13:54,090 --> 01:13:59,000 "Game Of Thrones is a really amazing programme because, actually, 1397 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,020 "it's very clever, Game Of Thrones. 1398 01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:06,060 "Because what it's actually about, it's about history and, you know, 1399 01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:09,080 "philosophy and politics and things like that." 1400 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,040 Is it? 1401 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,030 Game Of Thrones? 1402 01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:23,090 Peter Stringfellow's Lord Of The Rings? 1403 01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:31,020 APPLAUSE 1404 01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:33,080 Bilbo Baggins at the Spearmint Rhino? 1405 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,090 I'm not going to watch Game Of Thrones. 1406 01:14:40,090 --> 01:14:43,010 I can get the same experience from sitting around 1407 01:14:43,010 --> 01:14:45,090 with a Terry Pratchett novel in one hand 1408 01:14:45,090 --> 01:14:48,030 and a copy of Hustler's Barely Legal in the other. 1409 01:14:51,090 --> 01:14:54,020 "It's not like that, mate, if you actually watch Game..." 1410 01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:56,060 I haven't watched Game Of Thrones! 1411 01:14:56,060 --> 01:15:00,020 If I want to understand the ongoing weft of history, 1412 01:15:00,020 --> 01:15:05,010 while simultaneously being mildly sexually aroused, 1413 01:15:05,010 --> 01:15:08,080 I'll forcibly dress David Starkey in Agent Provocateur underwear... 1414 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,060 ..and pay him to give a lap dance to Simon Schama. 1415 01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:21,060 "It's not like that, mate, if you actually watch Game Of..." 1416 01:15:21,060 --> 01:15:25,010 No, I haven't watched Game Of Thrones. 1417 01:15:25,010 --> 01:15:28,030 And I shall never watch Game Of Thrones. 1418 01:15:30,060 --> 01:15:32,040 I shall take no wife... 1419 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,080 ..hold no lands... 1420 01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:38,060 ..father no children. 1421 01:15:41,020 --> 01:15:42,040 I shall wear no crown... 1422 01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:44,070 ..and win no glory. 1423 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,050 And I shall not watch Game Of Thrones. 1424 01:15:49,070 --> 01:15:51,060 Do you like that, do you, Game Of Thrones fans? 1425 01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:53,090 Do you know what? I don't even fucking know what that is. 1426 01:15:56,030 --> 01:16:00,030 I copied that off the back of a cup in HMV. 1427 01:16:00,030 --> 01:16:01,030 Right, OK? 1428 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:04,030 No, I did. 1429 01:16:04,030 --> 01:16:07,080 And everything I need to know to do an hour of stand-up 1430 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,020 on Game Of Thrones, I can get off a cup. 1431 01:16:11,020 --> 01:16:14,020 So, grow up, you stupid Warhammer twat. 1432 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,010 You're 45 years old! 1433 01:16:25,010 --> 01:16:27,030 "It's not like that, have you actually watched..." 1434 01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:28,090 No, I haven't watched Game Of Thrones! 1435 01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:34,030 If I want to understand the ongoing collapse of ancient dynasties, 1436 01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:37,010 while simultaneously being barely semi-tumescent... 1437 01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:39,090 ..as usual... 1438 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,070 ..I'll read Tolstoy's War And Peace while sitting over the wheel arch 1439 01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:50,090 of a diesel-powered double-decker bus. 1440 01:16:52,030 --> 01:16:54,020 First laughs from the friends up there. 1441 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,020 Some of the older supporters of the theatre going, yeah, 1442 01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:00,050 "Remember the old days? You could get on, couldn't you? 1443 01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:03,020 "You get on the bus in Billericay, 1444 01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:05,040 "and by the time..." 1445 01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:11,090 AS A WORKING-MAN'S CLUB COMEDIAN: Hey, I've got a joke for you now, Southend. 1446 01:17:11,090 --> 01:17:13,030 It's a Game Of Thrones joke. 1447 01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:15,080 Hey, I tell you what, you may laugh, madam - 1448 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,010 if you were my daughter, I'd still be bathing you. 1449 01:17:18,010 --> 01:17:19,050 So... 1450 01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:23,080 Come on. 1451 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,020 It was the 1970s, it was a different time. 1452 01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:30,050 It was a time of innocence and fun and laughter. 1453 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,050 So, I've got a joke for you, it's a Game Of Thrones joke. 1454 01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:37,070 Eh! 1455 01:17:37,070 --> 01:17:38,090 So... 1456 01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:42,000 You may laugh, sir - if you were my son, I'd still be bathing you. 1457 01:17:44,090 --> 01:17:47,040 Different times, weren't they, the '70s? 1458 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,000 All the children were clean, weren't they, in the '70s? 1459 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,090 Weren't they? 1460 01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:54,050 Get in the bath, get out of the bath, dry yourself off, 1461 01:17:54,050 --> 01:17:57,030 get back in the bath now! 1462 01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:58,070 Get in the bath! 1463 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,040 So... 1464 01:18:06,050 --> 01:18:09,060 NORMAL VOICE: There's people up there going, "Oh, now it's picked up. 1465 01:18:11,010 --> 01:18:13,000 "A proper comedian's come on." 1466 01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:17,080 AS A WORKING-MAN'S CLUB COMEDIAN: So, I've got a joke for you now. 1467 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,080 You may laugh, sir - if you were dead, I'd still be bathing you. 1468 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,090 Different times, weren't it, the '70s? 1469 01:18:22,090 --> 01:18:25,020 You could bathe the dead, couldn't you? 1470 01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:28,030 "Is he dead?" "Yes, but he's clean." "Oh." 1471 01:18:28,030 --> 01:18:30,040 "Nice and clean." 1472 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,040 So... 1473 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,050 I've got a joke for you now, it's a Game Of Thrones joke. 1474 01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:38,090 Eh! I tell you what, right, 1475 01:18:38,090 --> 01:18:41,060 there's so many naked young women 1476 01:18:41,060 --> 01:18:44,070 in that Game Of Thrones programme that they have... 1477 01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:49,080 I'm just checking back there for the old PC thought police. 1478 01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:55,040 Gary Lineker's liberal Stasi. 1479 01:18:58,090 --> 01:19:02,090 No offence, the metropolitan liberal elite of Southend, 1480 01:19:02,090 --> 01:19:08,020 but how fucked are you when the main champion of your liberal values 1481 01:19:08,020 --> 01:19:09,090 is Gary Lineker? 1482 01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:15,000 "My name is Gary Lineker. 1483 01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:20,010 "I like to wake up in the morning 1484 01:19:20,010 --> 01:19:23,000 "and send out a succession of tweets 1485 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,090 "in support of broadly progressive causes." 1486 01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:34,080 "Then, in the afternoon, 1487 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,060 "I like to relax with a great big bag of crisps." 1488 01:19:44,030 --> 01:19:47,080 Are you there, Gary? He's not there tonight. Are you there? 1489 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,050 Some nights, he's there and we have a... 1490 01:19:50,050 --> 01:19:52,080 ..we have a little chat, don't... Hello? 1491 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,030 But, no, Gary, I don't think... 1492 01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:57,080 Well, given how the first half ended, 1493 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,030 I don't think tonight is the sort of night where the audience 1494 01:20:01,030 --> 01:20:03,030 will go with a long, improvised dialogue 1495 01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:05,050 with an invisible, offstage Gary Lineker. 1496 01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:08,030 So... 1497 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:15,040 I know, Gary, it worked very well in Leicester, but that's your hometown. 1498 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,030 And what began as a regionally specific ad lib 1499 01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:23,070 has gradually depreciated in value as we've gone further south. 1500 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,030 I know. 1501 01:20:28,030 --> 01:20:30,010 So, he's not coming on tonight. 1502 01:20:30,010 --> 01:20:34,060 He's not there, anyway. He won't come this far south, Gary Lineker. 1503 01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:36,000 He won't cross water. 1504 01:20:37,070 --> 01:20:39,030 In case his crisps get damp. 1505 01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:44,090 Anyway, I need to get on with the joke now, 1506 01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:46,090 because the longer I talk in this voice, 1507 01:20:46,090 --> 01:20:49,060 the more I realise I've not really given it enough thought 1508 01:20:49,060 --> 01:20:51,000 to who this is supposed to be. 1509 01:20:53,020 --> 01:20:56,020 Just started off as a throwaway thing. 1510 01:20:56,020 --> 01:21:00,050 Anyway, so, I've got a joke for you now, it's a Game Of Thrones joke. 1511 01:21:00,050 --> 01:21:02,030 Eh, I tell you what, right, 1512 01:21:02,030 --> 01:21:04,060 there's so many naked young women 1513 01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:08,090 in that Game Of Thrones programme that they have now, 1514 01:21:08,090 --> 01:21:14,050 it's hardly surprising what stunted Tyrion Lannister's growth. 1515 01:21:22,030 --> 01:21:24,030 It were wanking, ladies and gentlemen. 1516 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,030 He's wanked hisself into being a dwarf. 1517 01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:36,030 See? 1518 01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:38,030 He was 6ft 6in in the pilot episode. 1519 01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:44,070 "Hang on a minute, mate, wasn't that a sizeist joke? 1520 01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:46,070 "About the dwarf community?" 1521 01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:50,060 NORMAL VOICE: Yes, it was, but I ridiculed the dwarf community in order to satirize 1522 01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:53,070 the ongoing exploitation of women in mainstream media, 1523 01:21:53,070 --> 01:21:55,030 so it cancels it out. 1524 01:21:57,030 --> 01:22:00,010 It's the kind of split-second, collateral-damage decision 1525 01:22:00,010 --> 01:22:02,060 Frankie Boyle has to make every time he opens his mouth. 1526 01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:07,060 "Oh, hang on a minute, mate, 1527 01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:11,030 "who's the sole arbiter of taste in stand-up comedy? 1528 01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:15,020 "Who's the self-appointed moral judge of right and wrong 1529 01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:17,070 "in stand-up comedy?" It's me, I am! 1530 01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:23,090 It's been me for about 17 years now, 1531 01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:27,070 and there's nothing the passive-aggressive indifference 1532 01:22:27,070 --> 01:22:31,090 of the people of Southend-on-Sea can do about that. Not now. 1533 01:22:31,090 --> 01:22:34,050 But, hey, the world's gone mad, hasn't it? 1534 01:22:34,050 --> 01:22:36,010 Do you know what? 1535 01:22:36,010 --> 01:22:37,080 APPLAUSE I blame... 1536 01:22:39,070 --> 01:22:42,000 I blame young people. 1537 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,000 By which I mean people under 40, 1538 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,050 and I hope there is none in. 1539 01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:49,090 "I'm under 40. 1540 01:22:51,010 --> 01:22:53,000 "I'm disillusioned. 1541 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,020 "I like Russell Brand, I didn't vote. 1542 01:22:58,020 --> 01:22:59,020 "Yeah!" 1543 01:23:01,070 --> 01:23:04,070 "Oh, no, I've got no future now." 1544 01:23:09,090 --> 01:23:12,050 "Never mind, I've got this phone." 1545 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,010 People under 40, what a shower of shit are you? 1546 01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:26,020 Aren't you?! 1547 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,080 This is you... 1548 01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:34,050 "I'm under 40. 1549 01:24:35,050 --> 01:24:37,040 "I like Poke Man Go." 1550 01:24:40,060 --> 01:24:44,010 "I'm under 40, and in the morning, I don't eat bread for breakfast, 1551 01:24:44,010 --> 01:24:47,060 "like an adult, I suck drinking yoghurt out of a pouch." 1552 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,000 HE SLURPS 1553 01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:56,070 "I'm under 40, this is my food." 1554 01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:05,090 "I'm under 40, this is me on the bus to work in the morning." 1555 01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:32,010 People under 40, you like stupid fads, don't you? 1556 01:25:32,010 --> 01:25:34,030 A Japanese cat's face drawn on a satchel, 1557 01:25:34,030 --> 01:25:36,010 that's what you like, isn't it? 1558 01:25:38,090 --> 01:25:41,070 "I've got to get up early and get down the market." "Why?" 1559 01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:43,090 "The Japanese-cat-satchel-face man's coming." 1560 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:50,000 "You've got loads of satchels of a Japanese cat's face on, mate." 1561 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,030 "I know, but there might be... Waaahhh!" 1562 01:25:59,010 --> 01:26:01,050 Bondage sex and S&M and the fetish thing, 1563 01:26:01,050 --> 01:26:04,040 that's the new thing, isn't it, the under-40s? 1564 01:26:05,050 --> 01:26:07,010 Which they think they've invented. 1565 01:26:08,090 --> 01:26:12,000 Because they read about it in 50 Shades Of Grey, 1566 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,050 or they saw it in a FKA twigs video. 1567 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,000 I know who he is, actually, mate, so you can fuck off. 1568 01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:25,090 This is exactly my problem, actually, with the under-40s. 1569 01:26:25,090 --> 01:26:28,050 If you're 50, like me, and you make 1570 01:26:28,050 --> 01:26:32,030 some joke about popular culture, people under 40 go, 1571 01:26:32,030 --> 01:26:36,000 "Ah-ha-ha, Grandad, you don't know who FKA twigs is." 1572 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,010 Well, I do know who he is, FKA twigs. 1573 01:26:38,010 --> 01:26:41,080 They don't, do they, the Southend theatre people? 1574 01:26:43,090 --> 01:26:45,040 FKA twigs, right... 1575 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,030 He's not a twig, like you think. 1576 01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:50,020 "Is he a twig, is he from the woods?" 1577 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,050 FKA twigs, he's a... 1578 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,070 He's a rap singer, he's one of these... 1579 01:27:04,090 --> 01:27:06,050 He is, he's one of these rappers. 1580 01:27:07,090 --> 01:27:11,010 Well, he is, he's done loads of tapes, I've got his tapes, 1581 01:27:11,010 --> 01:27:12,010 and he's... 1582 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,050 He's got a video, FKA twigs, 1583 01:27:19,050 --> 01:27:24,010 where all sort of Japanese bondage ropes go round him, 1584 01:27:24,010 --> 01:27:26,040 and he flies up in the air and he has to try and... 1585 01:27:27,090 --> 01:27:29,030 Right, has anyone seen this? 1586 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:31,090 Because I'm looking for stuff to drop, to be honest. 1587 01:27:34,010 --> 01:27:36,040 No. I've seen it, I saw it on, er... 1588 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,050 Oh... 1589 01:27:39,050 --> 01:27:41,070 Not Top Of The Pops, what is it they have now? 1590 01:27:44,010 --> 01:27:45,060 The internet, it was on that. 1591 01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:50,040 It's like Top Of The Pops, isn't it, the internet? 1592 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,060 Full of pop music and sexual predators. 1593 01:27:57,010 --> 01:27:58,050 Yeah, see? See? 1594 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,020 I can write jokes, I could be on Mock The Week, easily. 1595 01:28:04,010 --> 01:28:05,070 This is Mock The Week, isn't it? 1596 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,040 "The internet is a bit like..." 1597 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,070 Fuck off, for God's sake, what waste of everyone's... 1598 01:28:11,070 --> 01:28:12,070 Pathetic, innit? 1599 01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:15,000 "Oh, I've written a joke!" 1600 01:28:16,050 --> 01:28:19,040 Imagine writing jokes? What a waste of time. 1601 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,040 "Oh, this thing is like this, only this is different." 1602 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,010 For God's sake, pathetic. 1603 01:28:30,090 --> 01:28:32,010 People under f... 1604 01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:34,060 "I'm 37, I like bondage sex. 1605 01:28:34,060 --> 01:28:36,070 "I had a mask on and some jam went on me." 1606 01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:37,070 Did it? 1607 01:28:51,030 --> 01:28:54,090 Do you remember proper bondage sex, like we used to have? 1608 01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:56,040 In the '80s, in the '70s - 1609 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,080 in the '50s, friends of the theatre, remember? 1610 01:29:02,050 --> 01:29:05,010 Proper, you know, degrading, you know... 1611 01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:08,080 If you weren't in hospital at the end of it, you'd done it wrong. 1612 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,010 And he had to do it again. Not like now. 1613 01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:14,090 "I'm 34, I like bondage sex, a feather went on my bum." 1614 01:29:14,090 --> 01:29:16,010 Did it? 1615 01:29:26,050 --> 01:29:29,040 Were you asphyxiated in a career-ending accident? 1616 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:34,080 No? Shut up then, drink your fucking pouch of yoghurt, 1617 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:39,070 get your fucking cat-face bag and fuck off! 1618 01:29:39,070 --> 01:29:42,030 And that is my message to the under-40s. 1619 01:29:42,030 --> 01:29:44,030 APPLAUSE 1620 01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:54,060 But, joking apart... 1621 01:29:55,070 --> 01:29:56,090 Yeah, I was joking. 1622 01:29:58,070 --> 01:30:01,030 I took an exaggerated position for comic effect. 1623 01:30:03,010 --> 01:30:04,050 I've been doing it all night. 1624 01:30:07,070 --> 01:30:11,050 A little peep for you there, Southend, 1625 01:30:11,050 --> 01:30:13,080 behind the wizard's curtain. 1626 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,030 # Behind the wizard's curtain 1627 01:30:23,020 --> 01:30:24,090 # With Stewart Lee 1628 01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:30,010 # He is going to show you all 1629 01:30:30,010 --> 01:30:32,090 # The secrets of comedy 1630 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:39,000 # Well, what would you do if a woman said �5 1631 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:43,090 # When you were hoping that she'd say 50p? 1632 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:50,010 # Would you squirrel it away at the back of your head 1633 01:30:50,010 --> 01:30:53,030 # And bring it back in later on instead? 1634 01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:58,020 # Yeah! Behind the wizard's curtain. # 1635 01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:00,080 Yeah, Behind The Wizard's Curtain. 1636 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,060 It's a thing I'm working on for Dave. 1637 01:31:05,020 --> 01:31:06,080 Hey, get this, right? 1638 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,090 It was my idea and I wrote it, 1639 01:31:08,090 --> 01:31:11,090 but apparently it'd be better if Greg Davies presented it. 1640 01:31:13,090 --> 01:31:16,030 Doesn't seem fair, does it? 1641 01:31:16,030 --> 01:31:17,050 Anyway, so... 1642 01:31:18,090 --> 01:31:23,020 On the subject of your constant comparisons 1643 01:31:23,020 --> 01:31:26,030 between your act and jazz, 1644 01:31:26,030 --> 01:31:30,040 I don't really recall Miles Davis 1645 01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,090 or any of the other jazz legends 1646 01:31:32,090 --> 01:31:37,090 actually ever having their trousers fall down, or anything like that. 1647 01:31:37,090 --> 01:31:41,030 I mean, we are talking about something very, very different. 1648 01:31:41,030 --> 01:31:44,010 Well, I understand what you mean, but there's a similarity, 1649 01:31:44,010 --> 01:31:46,080 inasmuch as what the great jazz musicians do 1650 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,030 is they work in the moment with things that take them by surprise. 1651 01:31:50,030 --> 01:31:54,010 One night in Bristol, my trousers fell down, it took me by surprise, 1652 01:31:54,010 --> 01:31:57,010 but I worked with it. I suppose the difference between me and 1653 01:31:57,010 --> 01:32:01,000 the jazz musicians is that they did that once, they worked with it, 1654 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,000 and they consigned it to the bin of history. 1655 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,090 What they don't do with their moments of improvisation 1656 01:32:05,090 --> 01:32:08,080 is then falsify them for hundreds of times afterwards. 1657 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,090 Yes.In fact, in many ways, you could argue 1658 01:32:10,090 --> 01:32:13,060 there could be nothing more different between the pure, 1659 01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:17,010 improvisatory art of jazz and a man pretending to improvise 1660 01:32:17,010 --> 01:32:19,010 the same thing, night after night, 1661 01:32:19,010 --> 01:32:21,020 for the best part of a year-and-a-half. 1662 01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,090 But the thing is, at some point, 1663 01:32:22,090 --> 01:32:25,060 I did have the idea to do that in the first place. 1664 01:32:25,060 --> 01:32:27,000 That was the jazz moment. 1665 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,050 So you're more like a recording of jazz than jazz itself? 1666 01:32:31,050 --> 01:32:34,030 Yeah, that's been taken around and played to people 1667 01:32:34,030 --> 01:32:37,050 as a reminder of the fact that at some point, the idea was original. 1668 01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:41,080 So I was talking about the S&M and the fetish thing there, right. 1669 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,040 It's an exaggerated example to choose, but let's stay with it, 1670 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,060 cos it dovetails into something I wanted to talk about, 1671 01:32:46,060 --> 01:32:47,090 which is this, right? 1672 01:32:47,090 --> 01:32:51,010 I think any area of interest people have, any hobby, 1673 01:32:51,010 --> 01:32:55,080 whether it's woodwork, sailing, you know, er, collecting stamps - 1674 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,060 or something mad, like the fetish thing - whatever it is, 1675 01:32:59,060 --> 01:33:02,060 it's so much easier now to find out about these things 1676 01:33:02,060 --> 01:33:05,060 and to meet like-minded people, because of the internet - 1677 01:33:05,060 --> 01:33:07,070 much more so than it was, say, even 25 years ago - 1678 01:33:07,070 --> 01:33:11,040 that I don't know if any of our passions, if any of our hobbies, 1679 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,000 our interests, will ever have the same depth of meaning 1680 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,090 that they had to us a quarter of a century ago, 1681 01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:18,010 because you're not required to put yourself out, 1682 01:33:18,010 --> 01:33:20,030 you're not required to commit to anything, you know? 1683 01:33:20,030 --> 01:33:22,060 Let's take the fetish thing, for a laugh, right? 1684 01:33:22,060 --> 01:33:26,040 Now, if you'd wanted to get into that 25 years ago, you know, 1685 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:30,070 you probably couldn't even have done it in Southend. 1686 01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:32,090 You'd have had to go to Burnham-on-Crouch, right? 1687 01:33:32,090 --> 01:33:37,040 You'd have to go to the very worst part of Burnham-on-Crouch, 1688 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,080 and it'd be in some underpass, and there'd be some 1689 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,050 horrible shop there with a bloke behind the counter, 1690 01:33:42,050 --> 01:33:44,060 drinking amyl nitrate out of an egg cup. 1691 01:33:44,060 --> 01:33:48,080 And he'd sell you some ticket to some fetish event in London 1692 01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:52,000 in about two years' time, and you'd go there, to The Clink or something. 1693 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,030 You'd go, "Hello, where'd you get that collar thing? 1694 01:33:54,030 --> 01:33:56,070 "Who are you? How do you do this? When's the next meeting?" 1695 01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:58,070 And it would take you ages, wouldn't it, to get into 1696 01:33:58,070 --> 01:34:00,090 any kind of subculture. But when you finally did, 1697 01:34:00,090 --> 01:34:03,060 it would mean something, because you'd committed to it, right? 1698 01:34:03,060 --> 01:34:06,050 But it's all changed now. One of you could go home tonight, from here, 1699 01:34:06,050 --> 01:34:09,080 couldn't you, and think, "Oh, I'd like to be in the fetish scene." 1700 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,090 And you could go on Amazon, bop, bop, bop, next-day delivery, 1701 01:34:12,090 --> 01:34:15,030 Taiwanese fist glove, that's there tomorrow. 1702 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,060 Midday, your partner goes, 1703 01:34:17,060 --> 01:34:19,080 "What's this?" You go, "It's a Taiwanese fist glove." 1704 01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,050 "I didn't know you were into all that." "I am." "Since when?" 1705 01:34:22,050 --> 01:34:25,000 "Last night, about half past ten, I just decided." 1706 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,050 But it wouldn't mean anything, would it? It wouldn't mean anything. 1707 01:34:30,050 --> 01:34:34,020 You know, I used to collect records, right? I started about 1979 1708 01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:36,040 and I spent the next two decades wandering around 1709 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,020 with a little list in my pocket, looking for these things. 1710 01:34:39,020 --> 01:34:40,060 And then I started touring, '89, 1711 01:34:40,060 --> 01:34:43,040 and I'd go to these different towns, Leeds, Birmingham, Glasgow, 1712 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,030 I'd go in the record shops, "Have you got this?" 1713 01:34:45,030 --> 01:34:47,020 "No, we'll ring the dealer." And he'd come in, 1714 01:34:47,020 --> 01:34:49,090 and it would take you ten years, sometimes, to find the thing 1715 01:34:49,090 --> 01:34:52,070 you were looking for. And when you finally did, it was amazing. 1716 01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:54,070 Then, in 1997, I got online, in an afternoon, 1717 01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:57,050 I found everything I'd been looking for for 20 years, right? 1718 01:34:57,050 --> 01:34:59,010 And it didn't mean anything. 1719 01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:02,090 It did not mean anything, and it's changed so much in our lifetime. 1720 01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:07,000 If you talk to your grandparents or your great-grandparents 1721 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,030 about trying to do bondage sex and fetish stuff... 1722 01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:12,050 ..and S&M... 1723 01:35:15,070 --> 01:35:18,060 You know, in the war, when there was Hitler, Adolf Hitler. 1724 01:35:19,070 --> 01:35:23,080 Or in the '30s, when a lot of the things they needed were very scarce, 1725 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,090 very hard to come by, 1726 01:35:25,090 --> 01:35:28,040 it was harder for them to get into all this stuff, 1727 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,040 but I think it meant more to them. 1728 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,040 Well, you snigger because you are of a generation 1729 01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,090 where you cannot conceive, can you, they cannot conceive 1730 01:35:37,090 --> 01:35:40,090 of not being able to instantly get what they want. 1731 01:35:40,090 --> 01:35:42,010 And it is a tragedy, I think. 1732 01:35:42,010 --> 01:35:45,010 And I remember talking to my gran about this, 1733 01:35:45,010 --> 01:35:47,020 and I remember her saying that, 1734 01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:53,090 in the '30s, you know, if she wanted a deluxe latex sort of... 1735 01:35:53,090 --> 01:35:56,090 ..like a sex harness for bondage, 1736 01:35:56,090 --> 01:36:00,030 to be hung up from a beam or something... 1737 01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:04,060 You know, it wasn't like now. 1738 01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:06,030 They couldn't just go into Ann Summers. 1739 01:36:07,090 --> 01:36:09,080 You know, there was no Ann Summers. 1740 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,010 They lived in Kidderminster. 1741 01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:17,070 People still live there now, still live there now. 1742 01:36:20,010 --> 01:36:23,020 What they had to do in the '30s, in rural Worcestershire, 1743 01:36:23,020 --> 01:36:26,050 if they wanted a sex harness, is... 1744 01:36:27,090 --> 01:36:29,040 Yeah, "ha-ha". ..is... 1745 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,090 ..they would have to walk. 1746 01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:38,040 They would. And they would walk and walk and walk and walk, 1747 01:36:40,030 --> 01:36:45,020 miles and miles and miles, all round rural Worcestershire, 1748 01:36:45,020 --> 01:36:48,060 all round Bromsgrove, Redditch, 1749 01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,070 Alvechurch, Inkberrow, 1750 01:36:51,070 --> 01:36:55,070 Rowney Green, erm, Bell End, 1751 01:36:55,070 --> 01:36:58,030 Fishponds, Upper Piddle, Wyre Piddle, 1752 01:36:58,030 --> 01:37:00,050 all these sorts of places... 1753 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,090 ..just looking on the floor. 1754 01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:12,080 For old bits of string and twine 1755 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,010 and sturdy weeds and vines. 1756 01:37:16,010 --> 01:37:19,040 And then they would knit all these together, 1757 01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,040 and they would make their own sex harness, 1758 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,080 just out of old rubbish from off the floor. 1759 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,050 And do you know what a sex harness made out of just all stuff off the 1760 01:37:29,050 --> 01:37:31,090 floor in Worcestershire in 1937... 1761 01:37:31,090 --> 01:37:35,060 That would have meant more to them than probably any possession 1762 01:37:35,060 --> 01:37:37,020 any of you have ever had, 1763 01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:40,000 or any feeling that any of you have ever had, 1764 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,030 or any thought that any of you have ever had, 1765 01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:45,050 because you live, don't you, 1766 01:37:45,050 --> 01:37:50,040 in a time that is of no value and consequently you are of no value. 1767 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,040 You are like an empty husk, 1768 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,090 billowing across a desolate landscape, 1769 01:37:55,090 --> 01:37:59,000 bereft of all sense and meaning, and you know it. 1770 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,050 And I remember talking... 1771 01:38:01,070 --> 01:38:04,070 I remember talking to my grandad about this sort of thing. 1772 01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:07,010 My grandad, and he said to me, he said it was different." 1773 01:38:07,010 --> 01:38:09,080 He said to me, in the '30s, in rural Worcestershire, 1774 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:14,070 if he wanted a deluxe, latex, zip-up gimp mask for sex, 1775 01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:15,070 a sex mask... 1776 01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:23,020 It wasn't like now, he couldn't just go on Amazon and order a sex mask. 1777 01:38:23,020 --> 01:38:27,010 What they had to do in the '30s, in rural Worcestershire, 1778 01:38:27,010 --> 01:38:30,070 if they wanted a sex mask, is they would have to walk. 1779 01:38:30,070 --> 01:38:33,080 And they would walk and walk and walk, 1780 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:38,090 miles and miles and miles south from Kidderminster, 1781 01:38:38,090 --> 01:38:42,010 down what is now the M5. 1782 01:38:42,010 --> 01:38:44,020 You've got the M5, haven't you? 1783 01:38:44,020 --> 01:38:48,090 The M40 coming in here, the 42, Banbury way. 1784 01:38:50,010 --> 01:38:55,030 The 50, Ross on Wye, South Wales, 1785 01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:57,050 the M4 to Reading, 1786 01:38:57,050 --> 01:38:59,040 Twyford... 1787 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,030 Course, back then, it was a leafy lane. 1788 01:39:01,030 --> 01:39:04,080 But they'd get about halfway down there, 1789 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,010 where Droitwich, Junction 5, is now. 1790 01:39:09,050 --> 01:39:11,040 And they'd go off east, 1791 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,020 not west, round the back of Frog Pond, Bromsgrove... 1792 01:39:14,020 --> 01:39:16,000 East. 1793 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,010 Pershore. 1794 01:39:18,010 --> 01:39:20,040 Erm, Evesham. 1795 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,040 Vale of Evesham. 1796 01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:24,050 Where all the vegetables come from. 1797 01:39:26,010 --> 01:39:29,070 And they would find the potato farm, 1798 01:39:29,070 --> 01:39:34,030 and Gran would distract the potato farmer with rhetoric and dance. 1799 01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:40,040 And Grandad would creep in the potato farm, 1800 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,040 and when he's found hisself a potato sack, 1801 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:47,010 he'd empty all the potatoes out of it 1802 01:39:47,010 --> 01:39:48,090 and then cut two eyeholes in it. 1803 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,090 And that was his sex mask, an old potato sack. 1804 01:39:54,090 --> 01:39:56,010 And he'd put it on, 1805 01:39:56,010 --> 01:40:00,030 and the hessian would gouge horrible wounds into his crying face. 1806 01:40:00,030 --> 01:40:02,090 But that was their sex mask, the potato sack. 1807 01:40:02,090 --> 01:40:05,090 And do you know what? A potato-sack sex mask 1808 01:40:05,090 --> 01:40:09,050 from off the floor in rural Worcestershire in 1937, 1809 01:40:09,050 --> 01:40:12,020 that would have meant more to them than... 1810 01:40:12,020 --> 01:40:14,080 OK, what's the most treasured possession you've got? 1811 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,090 "Oh, Stew, it's a photo of our daughter the moment she was born." 1812 01:40:17,090 --> 01:40:19,000 Is it? 1813 01:40:20,030 --> 01:40:22,000 Because that's meaningless, isn't it? 1814 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,000 Compared to a potato-sack sex mask... 1815 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,070 It is! 1816 01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:29,020 Because what did you do with that image the moment you took it? 1817 01:40:29,020 --> 01:40:31,080 You sent it off, didn't you, to 200 people in your address book, 1818 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,080 100 of whom you don't really know, 50 of whom you actively despise, 1819 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,060 and every time that image lands, 1820 01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:38,070 like a wet sock falling into a urinal, 1821 01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:41,010 a layer of meaning is shaved off it, isn't it? 1822 01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:43,080 Shave off the meaning! Shave it all away! 1823 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,000 Until you're left with a Turin shroud, gossamer-thin, 1824 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,040 tracing-paper imprint of this supposedly profound moment 1825 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,090 in your life that no longer has any value, 1826 01:40:52,090 --> 01:40:55,070 because you've fucked all the meaning out of it again! 1827 01:40:57,070 --> 01:40:59,040 APPLAUSE 1828 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,020 And these are the old stories the grandparents used to tell. 1829 01:41:08,090 --> 01:41:10,040 You're probably like me, Southend, 1830 01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,090 your grandparents probably used to tell these old stories, 1831 01:41:12,090 --> 01:41:15,030 and you used to think, didn't you, "I must write them down, 1832 01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:17,060 "or tape-record them before they're all forgotten." 1833 01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:19,070 But we never do, do we? I actually did. 1834 01:41:19,070 --> 01:41:22,040 In the 1970s, I tape-recorded all these old stories 1835 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:23,060 of my grandparents. 1836 01:41:23,060 --> 01:41:26,010 But in the '80s, when my brother-in-law moved in, 1837 01:41:26,010 --> 01:41:28,010 he taped a Deacon Blue album over them. 1838 01:41:33,050 --> 01:41:35,030 Right, that's the first one of them. 1839 01:41:40,090 --> 01:41:45,010 Well done. The second and final Deacon Blue joke 1840 01:41:45,010 --> 01:41:47,050 is right up near the end of the show, 1841 01:41:47,050 --> 01:41:49,080 but it isn't the actual end of the show. 1842 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,010 I do it, and then there's about 30 seconds more 1843 01:41:52,010 --> 01:41:53,070 until the actual end of the show. 1844 01:41:53,070 --> 01:41:56,060 So when you hear the second Deacon Blue joke, don't go, 1845 01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:59,010 "Oh, it's finished now," and start getting your coat on 1846 01:41:59,010 --> 01:42:00,070 and wriggling around, just wait! 1847 01:42:07,050 --> 01:42:10,030 So I was talking there about the S&M and the fetish scene, 1848 01:42:10,030 --> 01:42:14,030 and it's a mad, exaggerated example to choose, but it's a good way, 1849 01:42:14,030 --> 01:42:17,010 I think, of looking at how our access to information, 1850 01:42:17,010 --> 01:42:19,080 our access to different cultures, has changed. 1851 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,030 And our grandparents and our great-grandparents 1852 01:42:22,030 --> 01:42:23,070 did see incredible changes. 1853 01:42:23,070 --> 01:42:28,000 My grandad was still around at the sort of start of the internet age, 1854 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,080 and I remember him talking to me about it. 1855 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,070 You know, he said he couldn't believe it. 1856 01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:34,010 And he did say to me once, he said that in the '30s, 1857 01:42:34,010 --> 01:42:39,000 in rural Worcestershire, if he did want to do S&M and fetish stuff... 1858 01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,000 Seriously, I'm not doing a joke now, 1859 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:45,020 but he said it was...it was very different. 1860 01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:47,040 I mean, he said to me, 1861 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,020 "We just couldn't find the things, you know." He said to me, 1862 01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:52,090 for example, back then, if they wanted to do that sort of thing, 1863 01:42:52,090 --> 01:42:58,010 you know, there was no Ann Summers deluxe, strawberry-flavoured 1864 01:42:58,010 --> 01:43:01,080 sex lubricant gel, there was nothing like that. 1865 01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,090 Well, there wasn't. 1866 01:43:05,050 --> 01:43:08,070 And all they had then, in the '30s, in rural Worcestershire, 1867 01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:12,040 if they wanted to do that sort of thing, was a big lump of dripping. 1868 01:43:19,010 --> 01:43:21,060 And this was kept, wasn't it, 1869 01:43:21,060 --> 01:43:25,030 the dripping on a marble slab out the back, 1870 01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:28,010 in the pantry, to keep it cool on the marble. 1871 01:43:28,010 --> 01:43:29,010 And... 1872 01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:33,090 Yeah, on the marble slab. It's funny to you, because you think, 1873 01:43:33,090 --> 01:43:35,030 "Oh, didn't they have a fridge?" 1874 01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:39,000 No, mate, they didn't have a fridge, right? 1875 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,030 And, you know, maybe it was Christmas, and Grandad was in 1876 01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:44,000 a good mood, and he'd go, "Come on, Gran, let's have bondage sex." 1877 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,070 Not his own gran, obviously, he wasn't sick. 1878 01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:50,060 That's what he'd call his wife, because he was in love with her. 1879 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,050 And... 1880 01:43:56,030 --> 01:44:00,030 They would get undressed there in the freezing-black darkness 1881 01:44:00,030 --> 01:44:01,070 of the hovel they lived in, 1882 01:44:01,070 --> 01:44:03,090 shivering and crying in the black dark, 1883 01:44:03,090 --> 01:44:06,070 the flea bites bleeding all over them. 1884 01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:09,030 They would put their potato-sack sex masks on. 1885 01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,020 And the hessian would gouge horrible wounds into their faces. 1886 01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:17,090 Weeping sores. 1887 01:44:17,090 --> 01:44:21,090 And they'd be shivering and crying in the black dark, and bleeding. 1888 01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:24,030 And all the while, trying to maintain a state of arousal. 1889 01:44:24,030 --> 01:44:25,090 And doing it. 1890 01:44:25,090 --> 01:44:28,050 Because, unlike your cosseted generation, 1891 01:44:28,050 --> 01:44:30,050 they believed in something, they had values. 1892 01:44:33,010 --> 01:44:34,020 Not like now. 1893 01:44:34,020 --> 01:44:36,060 "I'm 33, I like bondage sex. 1894 01:44:36,060 --> 01:44:39,040 "Get under the duvet where it's warm, and I'll harm you." 1895 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,020 I've seen... 1896 01:44:45,010 --> 01:44:46,030 I've seen where they lived, 1897 01:44:46,030 --> 01:44:49,060 the wind howling through the cracks in the stonework, the floor 1898 01:44:49,060 --> 01:44:52,050 just straw and mud and dung, animal dung, 1899 01:44:52,050 --> 01:44:55,090 all the farm animals in there with them - sheep, goats, ducks. 1900 01:44:55,090 --> 01:44:59,050 Some of the ducks were traumatised by the things they saw. 1901 01:44:59,050 --> 01:45:02,010 They were laying square eggs for years afterwards. 1902 01:45:04,050 --> 01:45:07,030 And then finally, Gran would go, "Now it's time to go down 1903 01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:09,070 "in the cellar and get the coal and light the fire 1904 01:45:09,070 --> 01:45:12,090 "to put the dripping in the skillet to melt it down." 1905 01:45:16,010 --> 01:45:18,010 And Grandad would go down in the cellar, 1906 01:45:18,010 --> 01:45:20,070 shivering and crying and naked and bleeding 1907 01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:23,050 in the freezing-black dark, digging up the coal. 1908 01:45:23,050 --> 01:45:26,080 The coal dust would billow up into his potato-sack sex mask, 1909 01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,000 and he'd be coughing up huge, toxic black globs 1910 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,000 of poisonous black phlegm, 1911 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,090 and bleeding and crying in the frozen darkness, 1912 01:45:34,090 --> 01:45:36,090 until finally the fire was lit. 1913 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,090 And then Gran would hold up the dripping... 1914 01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:45,050 ..and at this point, she would always say the same thing to him, 1915 01:45:45,050 --> 01:45:48,030 and when we were kids and she was telling us this story, we'd go, 1916 01:45:48,030 --> 01:45:50,040 "Come on, Gran, say the dripping thing." 1917 01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:55,080 And she'd go, "No..." She'd have a bit of fun with it, you know. 1918 01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,040 She'd go, "No, I can't remember it." 1919 01:45:59,030 --> 01:46:02,020 And we'd go, "Come on, Gran, say the dripping thing." 1920 01:46:02,020 --> 01:46:04,060 "No, people don't want to hear about that." 1921 01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:06,070 Christmas Day, six kids round the table, 1922 01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:09,050 "Say it, Gran, say it, say the dripping thing, come on!" 1923 01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:16,010 She'd hold up the dripping, 1924 01:46:16,010 --> 01:46:18,030 and she'd said to Grandad, she'd say, "Now... 1925 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,080 "..here's the dripping. 1926 01:46:23,060 --> 01:46:25,070 "But remember, 1927 01:46:25,070 --> 01:46:28,070 "before we melt this dripping down... 1928 01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:34,020 "..as well as being a lubricant for your selfish pleasure... 1929 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:40,050 "..this dripping is also our dinner." 1930 01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:57,030 And they would have to make a choice, a very stark choice, 1931 01:46:57,030 --> 01:47:02,090 a choice unlike any choice your cosseted, spoiled, lazy, 1932 01:47:02,090 --> 01:47:04,090 facile generation will ever have to make. 1933 01:47:04,090 --> 01:47:11,020 A choice between the pursuit of selfish pleasure 1934 01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:13,090 and basic human sustenance and survival. 1935 01:47:16,030 --> 01:47:18,020 I talked to my grandad years later, he said, 1936 01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:21,010 if they did choose the pleasure route, if they were careful, 1937 01:47:21,010 --> 01:47:23,090 they could normally scrape together enough of the dripping... 1938 01:47:23,090 --> 01:47:25,060 AUDIENCE GROANS 1939 01:47:37,010 --> 01:47:38,070 So, it's an exaggerated story, that. 1940 01:47:40,090 --> 01:47:42,070 They didn't live in Kidderminster. 1941 01:47:46,060 --> 01:47:48,050 They lived in Malvern Link, 1942 01:47:48,050 --> 01:47:52,070 which is not as funny a name, is it? So I've changed it. 1943 01:47:54,090 --> 01:47:56,070 Weird that, innit? 1944 01:47:56,070 --> 01:48:00,000 Why is one name funny and another one's not funny? 1945 01:48:01,070 --> 01:48:03,080 What makes things funny? 1946 01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:04,080 Well... 1947 01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:08,090 ..if we knew the answer to that question... 1948 01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:13,010 ..there'd be no need for this whole charade, would there? 1949 01:48:15,070 --> 01:48:17,080 If you know what made things funny, 1950 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,090 you could stay at home, couldn't you? 1951 01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:25,050 Making yourselves laugh, 1952 01:48:25,050 --> 01:48:28,060 instead of having to pay a professional to do it for you. 1953 01:48:34,090 --> 01:48:37,040 And the under-40s have my sympathy, 1954 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:41,010 they've grown up thinking the values of the free market are normal, 1955 01:48:41,010 --> 01:48:44,040 that everything's up for sale and that we are all customers 1956 01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:47,050 in a set of transactions, whose needs must be met. 1957 01:48:47,050 --> 01:48:49,040 And everything is up for sale, isn't it? 1958 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,070 The forests, national parks, education, health. 1959 01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:56,020 You know, further education, for example, wasn't supposed to be a 1960 01:48:56,020 --> 01:49:01,000 transaction which increased the cash value of the customer 1961 01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,000 in the job market place. 1962 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,000 Further education was supposed to be an opportunity to participate, 1963 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,090 ideally for no charge, 1964 01:49:08,090 --> 01:49:11,070 in a quest to enlarge the global storehouse 1965 01:49:11,070 --> 01:49:13,070 of all human understanding... 1966 01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:16,070 ..admittedly whilst drinking heavily subsidised alcohol... 1967 01:49:17,090 --> 01:49:19,020 ..and losing your virginity 1968 01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:21,020 in a tower block named after Winnie Mandela. 1969 01:49:27,020 --> 01:49:29,040 But we're all customers now, whose needs must be met. 1970 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,050 And the best example of this customer mentality, I think, 1971 01:49:32,050 --> 01:49:38,060 I saw on the guestbook of the TripAdvisor holiday review website. 1972 01:49:38,060 --> 01:49:42,080 Now, I've got a ten-year-old boy and he's a massive Doctor Who fan. 1973 01:49:44,010 --> 01:49:47,090 And his favourite Doctor Who thing is not the multi-billion pound 1974 01:49:47,090 --> 01:49:51,010 Doctor Who World place in Cardiff Bay. 1975 01:49:51,010 --> 01:49:56,020 It's a little museum in the cramped two-room cellar of a little cottage 1976 01:49:56,020 --> 01:50:00,060 in the square of the Herefordshire market town of Bromyard. 1977 01:50:00,060 --> 01:50:03,090 And this cellar is full of the eccentric owner's mad collection 1978 01:50:03,090 --> 01:50:07,070 of Doctor Who props and costumes and sets, all crammed in there. 1979 01:50:07,070 --> 01:50:10,050 It's called The Time Machine Doctor Who Museum. 1980 01:50:11,060 --> 01:50:13,090 And all around Bromyard, there's posters of the Tardis, 1981 01:50:13,090 --> 01:50:17,000 it says, The Time Machine Doctor Who Museum, 1982 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:21,070 and it is made abundantly clear that The Time Machine Doctor Who Museum 1983 01:50:21,070 --> 01:50:24,060 is an entirely Doctor Who-based museum. 1984 01:50:26,010 --> 01:50:27,010 But... 1985 01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:30,010 There is a one-star review 1986 01:50:30,010 --> 01:50:33,030 of this Doctor Who museum on TripAdvisor. 1987 01:50:35,090 --> 01:50:36,090 And it says... 1988 01:50:38,010 --> 01:50:43,060 "The Time Machine Doctor Who Museum has very limited appeal, 1989 01:50:43,060 --> 01:50:44,090 "except for Doctor Who fans." 1990 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,080 "We were in and out in 25 minutes, 1991 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,060 "and that was after going round twice." 1992 01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:56,090 They went round twice. They went round once, 1993 01:50:56,090 --> 01:51:02,040 and they couldn't believe how little non-Doctor Who content there was 1994 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,030 in the Doctor Who Museum, thought if they went round again, 1995 01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:08,050 they might see a diorama of the life of Isambard Kingdom Brunel, 1996 01:51:08,050 --> 01:51:11,010 or an interactive display of the mating cycle 1997 01:51:11,010 --> 01:51:13,030 of the Asian short-clawed otter. 1998 01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:16,050 It's a Doctor Who museum, you can't complain 1999 01:51:16,050 --> 01:51:21,070 that there was too much Doctor Who stuff in the Doctor Who museum. 2000 01:51:21,070 --> 01:51:24,080 It's not aimed at you, not everything's aimed at you. 2001 01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,050 It reminds me of an elderly relative who, 2002 01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:35,020 on having gone to see Andrew Lloyd-Webber's musical Cats, 2003 01:51:35,020 --> 01:51:39,090 complained to me afterwards that she hadn't been expecting it all 2004 01:51:39,090 --> 01:51:41,070 to be just about cats. 2005 01:51:47,050 --> 01:51:51,060 And a person under 40 came up to me after a gig and he said to me, 2006 01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:54,080 "I didn't really enjoy that, to be honest, mate." 2007 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,070 And I said, "I don't know what you expect me to do about it. 2008 01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:06,010 "You just paid to see me, 2009 01:52:06,010 --> 01:52:07,010 "and I AM me." 2010 01:52:16,050 --> 01:52:18,060 But we've turned away, 2011 01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:20,080 it would seem to me, 2012 01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,010 from the wider world. 2013 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:27,070 Everyone's looking inwards, back through their own boundaries, 2014 01:52:27,070 --> 01:52:29,010 back through their own borders. 2015 01:52:30,030 --> 01:52:33,010 And you have to pay for everything now 2016 01:52:33,010 --> 01:52:35,080 and nothing comes for free, 2017 01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,030 except the last U2 album. 2018 01:52:39,070 --> 01:52:44,020 Whether you wanted it or not, you know, like a Trojan virus. 2019 01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:51,050 And I don't really know what I'm supposed to say to any of you now, 2020 01:52:51,050 --> 01:52:53,090 because you all live in a 2021 01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:56,090 reflecting hall of digital mirrors, 2022 01:52:56,090 --> 01:53:03,040 made of Facebooks and Twitters and Snapchats and Instagrams 2023 01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:06,060 and Deliveroos and selfies and Whassaps... 2024 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,050 You're the kind of people who are run over by a bus because 2025 01:53:13,050 --> 01:53:17,050 you were crossing the road whilst looking at a bus timetable app. 2026 01:53:22,010 --> 01:53:26,020 And they say you shouldn't keep dolphins in concrete tanks, 2027 01:53:26,020 --> 01:53:31,020 because the endless sound of their own sonar bouncing back at them 2028 01:53:31,020 --> 01:53:33,030 eventually drives them mad, 2029 01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:36,040 like someone locked in an aluminium-lined cell, 2030 01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,030 listening to an endless loop of every ill-considered 2am tweet 2031 01:53:40,030 --> 01:53:43,080 they ever sent out. And that is you, you are the mental dolphins of now. 2032 01:53:44,090 --> 01:53:48,080 Inward looking, self-obsessed people with no attention span, 2033 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:52,010 hurling yourselves fatally out of your tanks 2034 01:53:52,010 --> 01:53:54,030 in the self-inflicted wounds 2035 01:53:54,030 --> 01:53:56,040 of your imagined democratic choices. 2036 01:53:58,010 --> 01:54:01,050 And it's no surprise to me that you've all gone mad, 2037 01:54:01,050 --> 01:54:04,030 because you've all got phones on you all the time, haven't you? 2038 01:54:04,030 --> 01:54:07,040 With cameras, and you all take photos all the time, don't you, 2039 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,060 of your face, over and over again. 2040 01:54:10,060 --> 01:54:15,030 Your face. Your face. Your face. Your face. Why? 2041 01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:20,010 Surely you all know what your own faces look like now? 2042 01:54:20,010 --> 01:54:22,030 And your entire online digital history 2043 01:54:22,030 --> 01:54:25,070 is just an endless succession of images of your face 2044 01:54:25,070 --> 01:54:29,000 obscuring an endless succession of things that are all 2045 01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,050 more interesting than your face. 2046 01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:35,010 Here's me at Stonehenge. 2047 01:54:35,010 --> 01:54:37,060 Here's me at the Taj Mahal. 2048 01:54:37,060 --> 01:54:40,080 Here's me at the Deacon Blue reunion concert. 2049 01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,090 CHEERING 2050 01:54:42,090 --> 01:54:45,040 And I don't know what I'm supposed to say to you, 2051 01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:48,070 or what anyone is supposed to say to anyone. 2052 01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:51,080 Because nothing that anyone could ever have to say 2053 01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,080 could possibly be as interesting as the ongoing, 2054 01:54:55,080 --> 01:55:00,010 moment-by-moment documentation of your entire lives. 2055 01:55:01,010 --> 01:55:04,070 And so, when I look at this painting... 2056 01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:11,010 APPLAUSE 2057 01:55:15,020 --> 01:55:18,060 Caspar David Friedrich's 2058 01:55:18,060 --> 01:55:23,030 1818 German romantic masterpiece, 2059 01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:26,020 Wanderer Above A Sea Of Fog, 2060 01:55:26,020 --> 01:55:30,000 I see a man like me, 200 years ago now, 2061 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:34,040 looking out into the world and trying to make sense of it, 2062 01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,090 and his place in it, instead of just using it as a backdrop 2063 01:55:37,090 --> 01:55:39,070 for his own narcissism. 2064 01:55:42,060 --> 01:55:45,000 But this, this is you now... 2065 01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:54,020 APPLAUSE 2066 01:55:54,020 --> 01:55:57,060 Do you think that it could be said 2067 01:55:57,060 --> 01:56:01,080 you are projecting your own narcissism 2068 01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:05,070 onto the entire rest of modern culture? 2069 01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:08,040 Yeah, I mean, they could say that, 2070 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,050 and I was worried that someone would think that, 2071 01:56:10,050 --> 01:56:12,070 because it's arguably true. 2072 01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:16,020 But I don't give them time to make that conclusion, 2073 01:56:16,020 --> 01:56:19,090 because as soon as the blackout's had just a second to register, 2074 01:56:19,090 --> 01:56:23,020 I fling the lights up, play really loud music, and run away. 2075 01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,070 That's very courageous of you, Stewart. 2076 01:56:33,070 --> 01:56:36,090 ROCK MUSIC PLAYS 2077 01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,120 http://Scene-RLS.net 171537

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