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"I may not be the fastest.
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"I may not be the tallest
or the strongest.
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"I may not be the best
or the brightest.
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"But one thing I can do
better than anyone else,
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that is to be me,"
which is a poem that you wrote.
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Well, finally that's all
you can do, isn't it?
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You can do a good
job of doing that.
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Do a good job of being me,
being yourself.
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That's really all
I ask of myself.
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Because as I said,
I wasn't the fastest,
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and I wasn't the brightest,
and whatever, you know.
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This morning we are
remembering a beloved actor
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who became an enduring fixture
in pop culture, Leonard Nimoy.
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- Leonard Nimoy.
- Leonard Nimoy.
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Leonard Nimoy.
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- Leonard Nimoy.
- Leonard Nimoy.
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Leonard Nimoy has died
at the age of 83.
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When word came out today that
actor Leonard Nimoy had died,
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the President said,
"I loved Spock."
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I have been and always
shall be... your friend.
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Live long...
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and prosper.
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Listen to this.
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I just received an email
from Wil Wheaton.
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Leonard Nimoy's son is
working on a documentary
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that he started
with his father
before he passed away.
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It's about Mr. Spock
and his impact
on our culture.
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"For the Love of Spock,"
Adam Nimoy. Mark.
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We wanted to do
something to celebrate
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the 50th anniversary
of "Star Trek"
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which was coming up in 2016.
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And a documentary
about Spock had never
really been produced before.
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I thought it was
an interesting idea
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to create a film just
focused on Spock,
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who he is, how he came about,
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and why he has continued
to resonate for 50 years,
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all as a part of the celebration
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of the anniversary
of "The Original Series."
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And the minute
I suggested this
to Dad, he was in.
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Although my father had
a long and prosperous life
and hadn't smoked in years,
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he died from chronic
obstructive pulmonary disease
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from over 30 years
of cigarette smoking.
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After Dad died, it became clear
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that the film needed
to include his life
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as well as the
life of Mr. Spock.
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And that in turn led me
on a journey of discovery
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about my relationship
with my father.
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Well, I'm from
Boston originally.
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I've been in Los Angeles
working in films off and on
for about 17 years.
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I started acting
when I was a little boy,
about eight years old
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in neighborhood
settlement houses
in Boston.
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And kind of grew up into it.
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I just kept doing it
because I liked it.
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And then suddenly just decided
that I liked it enough
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to want to make a career of it.
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So I came to California in 1949
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and started acting
in films then.
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Now my parents
were extremely diligent,
responsible, practical people.
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I grew up during the Depression.
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When I told them at age 17
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that I was going
to study drama
at the Pasadena Playhouse
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and become an actor,
they were grief stricken.
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They tried to dissuade me
by refusing to give me
the tuition, saying,
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"You'll have to do it
without any help from us."
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They were totally against it...
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because they were certainly...
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Hoped he would work
into another profession
of some kind.
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But he wasn't suited
for all that.
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He wanted to do what
he wanted to do.
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Being stubborn,
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I saved some money
by selling vacuum cleaners.
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I bought a train ticket,
and I headed west to California.
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So I'm walking down
the streets of Pasadena
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on a hot September day,
sweat pouring.
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I'm wearing a wool suit,
a hand-painted tie,
and suede shoes.
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I must have looked like
somebody that just arrived
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from off the boat
from Transylvania.
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My mom was an aspiring actress,
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and she met my dad backstage
at a theater in Hollywood.
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But she gave all that up
to become a housewife.
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My sister was born '55.
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My dad was in the service then.
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Then my parents came back
to Los Angeles,
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and I was born in '56.
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My mother told me that
when my sister Julie
and I were young,
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my father was very involved
in helping her take care of us.
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* Now and then
when we fall in place *
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* It makes me feel all right
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* Makes me feel all right
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* Back and forth
we will win this race *
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* To find out what it's like
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* In time, I'll be all right
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* In time, I'll be just fine
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* Now and then
when we fall in place *
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* It makes me feel all right
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One of my favorite
memories of my dad was
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he hustled his ass
during the early '60s,
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doing all kinds of jobs.
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He was servicing fish tanks.
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He set them up in
doctors' offices.
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It was like sort of
a fad in the '60s,
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and Dad had a corner
on that market.
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We knew that dad sold freezers.
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You know, he worked
in a pet store.
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He drove a cab.
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He took care of aquariums.
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He had vending machines
at one point,
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so he had all these little
trinkets kept in boxes.
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He worked at Wil Wright's
Ice Cream Parlor.
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He was managing
an apartment building.
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He was not around.
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And even when Dad was at home,
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it was all these
home improvement projects.
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My father was truly
a renaissance man.
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He could do just about anything.
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Like build that massive
brick wall in our backyard.
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He was trying so hard
to get this career going,
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to make his life,
to do what he wanted to do,
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which was be
in the arts,
be an actor.
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One of my idols was Lon Chaney,
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who was called
the man of a thousand
faces in movies,
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because he'd change
characters so drastically
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from one performance to another.
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And I consider myself
that kind of a person.
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I go to the makeup department
or the wardrobe department,
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and get something together
and find a character.
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- What you looking at?
- Nothing.
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- What's that for?
- For nothing.
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Next time you wanna look at me,
line forms to the right.
Two bits admission.
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If they see water in the desert
where there is no water,
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it's their eyes that lie,
not my mouth.
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Just having any of those
coins in your possession
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is liable to lead you
to a lot more trouble
than you bargain for.
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Have no fear from me, Marshal.
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No man kills the bee.
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He only wants
to follow him
to the honey.
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He was a fine man.
Hasn't had a decent
break in 20 years.
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Now he's been built
up a little bit.
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He's got a little dignity,
a little stature.
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You're not going to deny
he was a good Marine
and a good officer.
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No, no, he was both.
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Then why crucify him?
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You don't get it,
do you, Sanders?
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I don't have any choice.
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- Hello?
- I'm not going to let you do it.
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It's for you, Lieutenant.
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I did this job in an episode
of "The Lieutenant" series.
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A few weeks
after I finished the job,
my agent called me and said,
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"Gene Roddenberry
saw the footage,
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"was interested in you,
liked what you did,
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"and said that he has
in mind for you a role
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in a pilot that he's developing
for a science fiction series."
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Period.
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I really didn't give it
a lot of thought.
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You hear that kind of thing,
and you're a long way
from getting a job.
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What about some of
the characters on the show?
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Did you create them with
certain actors in mind?
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Leonard Nimoy was the one actor
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I definitely had in mind.
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And I thought to myself,
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"If I ever do
this science fiction
that I want to do,
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"he'd make a great alien.
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And with those cheekbones,
some sort of a pointed ear
might go well."
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I simply made one
phone call to Leonard,
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and he came in, and that was it.
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So I went to this meeting
expecting to be auditioned,
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or to read for him,
or... whatever.
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He was very congenial
and said, "Let's take a walk."
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And he walked me over to
the scenic design department.
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He showed me the plans
of the sets that were
being built,
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introduced me to
the scenic designer.
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Walked me over to
the prop department.
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Showed me
some of the props
that were being made.
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Wardrobe department, same thing.
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"Here's some sketches
of the clothes."
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I thought, "This is interesting."
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"It's like he's telling me
I'm doing this job.
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If I keep my mouth shut,
I might have a job here,"
you know?
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Prior to "Star Trek,"
I never had a job that
lasted longer than two weeks
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in any television show
or movie, never. Two weeks.
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Mr. Spock here.
We're intercepting...
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I didn't have a cool look
in mind at first.
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I had this jagged haircut
and bushy eyebrows,
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and we went through
a struggle with the ears.
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The studio had contracted
with a company
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to do special effects
for the show.
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Not film special effects,
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but items like
suits for creatures,
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creature outfits,
and that kind of thing.
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And included
in the contract
was the ears.
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They were supposed
to do the ears.
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Now, they were very good
at creating creatures,
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and we used them
throughout the series,
this particular company.
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But they were not
really specialists
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in the very fine, delicate
kind of appliance work
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that's necessary
to add something
to a person's features
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and make it really look like
it's part of that person.
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We came right down within
about three or four days
of shooting the series,
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and I said to Gene Roddenberry,
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"This is not going to work,
and maybe we'd just better
forget about the ears."
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Well, he insisted
he wanted the ears
to be part of the character.
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And he said, "You try it,
and let's work it out.
Let's solve the problem."
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"And at the end of 13 shows
if you're not satisfied
with the ears,
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I'll write a script
where Spock gets an ear job."
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So we went ahead
and worked on the problem,
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and Fred Phillips,
who was the actual
makeup man
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who was going to do my makeup
each day on the series,
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knew what the problem was.
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And a couple of days
before we started shooting,
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he called in
an appliance specialist,
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and we very quickly went to him.
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Got the ears done
in about 24 hours.
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And they were ready,
and they were perfect,
and that solved the problem.
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Freddie Phillips always said
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that Leonard Nimoy
reported for work at 6:30 a.m.,
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and Mr. Spock could always
be counted on to arrive
somewhere around 7:15.
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Definitely something out there,
Captain, headed this way.
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Our tests indicate
the planet's surface
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without considerably more
vegetation or some animals,
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simply too barren
to support life.
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The first time, it did not sell.
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But, uh, NBC...
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NBC thought it
was too "cerebral"
was the term they used.
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The network found
the first pilot
too "cerebral," they said.
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Not a straight
lined story enough.
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And unusual in that
they decided to try
a second pilot.
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NBC told Gene to fire
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almost the entire cast,
including me.
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Well, Gene felt very strongly
that the bulk of the character
that I was to portray,
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that every time I was on screen
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you'd be reminded
that we have a mixed crew.
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So he stuck to his guns
fortunately for me.
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The original pilot even
had a different captain,
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Jeff Hunter.
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The only actor that stayed over
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was Leonard Nimoy.
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And then, I had a shock.
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I opened up my mail,
and here was a,
here was a pamphlet
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from the NBC Sales
and Promotion Department.
240
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And it was a pamphlet
about "Star Trek,"
241
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this new series that was
going to be on the air
242
00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:20,427
coming in the fall,
243
00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:23,931
I saw this photograph
of myself as Spock,
244
00:14:23,964 --> 00:14:24,998
and it didn't look right.
245
00:14:25,032 --> 00:14:28,468
Something struck me as strange.
246
00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:30,503
And the closer I looked,
the more I realized that
247
00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:33,106
they had straightened
out my eyebrows,
made them look normal,
248
00:14:33,140 --> 00:14:35,375
and they had taken off
the tips off the ears.
249
00:14:36,343 --> 00:14:38,478
The network said,
250
00:14:38,511 --> 00:14:42,115
"We are very dependent on
the numbers in the Bible Belt,
251
00:14:42,149 --> 00:14:44,217
"and they will not accept
in their homes a character
252
00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:45,986
who looks devilish
with these pointed ears."
253
00:14:46,019 --> 00:14:49,322
Are you casting me
in the role of Satan?
254
00:14:49,356 --> 00:14:50,290
Not at all, Captain.
255
00:14:50,323 --> 00:14:52,525
Is there anyone on this ship
256
00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:57,030
who even remotely...
looks like Satan?
257
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,570
I am not aware of anyone
who fits that description,
Captain.
258
00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:05,572
No, Mr. Spock,
I didn't think you were.
259
00:15:10,677 --> 00:15:12,612
Dr. Dehner feels
he isn't that dangerous.
260
00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:14,557
What makes you right,
and a trained
psychiatrist wrong?
261
00:15:14,581 --> 00:15:17,317
Because she feels. I don't.
262
00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:18,918
All I know is logic.
263
00:15:18,952 --> 00:15:22,589
In my opinion, we'd be lucky
if we can repair this ship
and get away in time.
264
00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:24,424
One of the reasons for the shift
265
00:15:24,457 --> 00:15:26,326
in the Spock character
when you came on-board
266
00:15:26,359 --> 00:15:28,171
was because
when I was working
with Jeffrey Hunter...
267
00:15:28,195 --> 00:15:30,297
Jeffrey Hunter was
a very internalized actor.
268
00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:32,399
Very fine actor.
This was his style of work.
269
00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:35,068
There's an old joke
about two actors
preparing to play a scene.
270
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And one says to the other,
"What are you going
to play in this scene?"
271
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And the one says,
"I'm playing nothing."
272
00:15:39,006 --> 00:15:40,507
The other one says, "No, no, no",
273
00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:41,985
- you can't play nothing.
I'm playing nothing."
274
00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:45,712
So here's Jeffrey Hunter
playing this quiet,
internalized performance,
275
00:15:45,745 --> 00:15:47,347
Ah!
276
00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:50,283
And I felt
the need to help drive
something in opposition to it.
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Right, right.
278
00:15:51,851 --> 00:15:54,154
- Otherwise, we're both playing nothing.
- -Right.
279
00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:56,223
And when you came on-board
with your energy,
280
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and a sense of humor,
and a twinkle in the eye,
281
00:15:58,358 --> 00:16:02,129
I was able to then become
the cooler Spock.
282
00:16:02,162 --> 00:16:06,433
Has it occurred to you
that there's a certain...
inefficiency
283
00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:10,237
in constantly questioning me
on things you've already
made up your mind about?
284
00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:13,073
It gives me emotional security.
285
00:16:13,106 --> 00:16:20,047
Leonard bouncing off of me
could now dramatically
be internal
286
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,481
allowing me to be external,
287
00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:26,786
and the two forces made
an interesting combination.
288
00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:30,357
I prefer the concrete,
the graspable, the provable.
289
00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:33,760
You'd make a splendid computer,
Mr. Spock.
290
00:16:33,793 --> 00:16:36,363
That is very kind
of you, Captain.
291
00:16:36,396 --> 00:16:37,806
You know, I don't know
if I had played Kirk
292
00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:41,634
that it would have
dawned on me to have
a sense of humor with Spock.
293
00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:43,012
I don't know that I would
have thought of that,
294
00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:47,807
but Shatner's take on it was,
"I can fuck with Spock."
295
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,509
I mean, you know...
296
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,511
Without being offensive
to the character.
297
00:16:51,544 --> 00:16:53,646
"I can play with him."
298
00:16:56,549 --> 00:16:59,452
Certain you don't know
what irritation is?
299
00:16:59,486 --> 00:17:02,189
The fact one of my ancestors
married a human female...
300
00:17:02,222 --> 00:17:05,392
Terrible having
bad blood like that.
301
00:17:05,425 --> 00:17:09,196
Those two characters
are the yin and yang.
302
00:17:09,229 --> 00:17:11,631
They are that in front
of the camera,
303
00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:14,501
and it works beautifully,
magnificently.
304
00:17:17,337 --> 00:17:20,073
There must be some intelligent
form of life on Thasus.
305
00:17:20,107 --> 00:17:22,109
He could not possibly
have survived alone.
306
00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:24,620
The ship's food concentrates
would have been exhausted
in a year or so.
307
00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:27,156
By which time he would
have been eating fruits,
vegetables, and nuts.
308
00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:29,192
Probes of Thasus indicate
very little edible plant life.
309
00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:30,693
And probes have been
known to be wrong.
310
00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:34,487
Doctor, are you speaking
scientifically or emotionally?
311
00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:38,858
I thought the character
McCoy played by D. Kelley
312
00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:42,329
made that,
as the fans call it,
the triumvirate,
313
00:17:42,362 --> 00:17:46,266
because he was the common man.
314
00:17:46,299 --> 00:17:47,867
Certainly a brilliant doctor,
315
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:52,539
but he had all
of the irritations,
frustrations,
316
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,508
the reactions that
most people would have.
317
00:17:55,542 --> 00:17:58,578
I for one could use a good
non-reconstituted meal.
318
00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:00,813
Doctor, you are a sensualist.
319
00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:03,150
You bet your pointed ears I am.
320
00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:05,218
It's actually
an interesting sort
of triumvirate
321
00:18:05,252 --> 00:18:08,155
between Spock, Bones, and Kirk.
322
00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:11,191
And for Kirk, Spock is his...
323
00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:13,836
You know, they're like
the devil and the angel
on his shoulder, really.
324
00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:17,730
Spock is his intelligence,
and his logic, and his sense,
325
00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:20,500
and you know, McCoy
is more his sort of
slightly more emotional,
326
00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,336
slightly more, you know,
knee-jerk kind of side.
327
00:18:23,370 --> 00:18:28,375
The banter between McCoy
and Spock was, you know,
328
00:18:28,408 --> 00:18:34,347
often some of the most
fun elements in the show
329
00:18:34,381 --> 00:18:35,682
and indeed in the movies.
330
00:18:35,715 --> 00:18:37,850
What's the matter, Spock?
331
00:18:37,884 --> 00:18:40,287
There's something disquieting
about these creatures.
332
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,231
I don't know too much about
these little Tribbles yet,
333
00:18:42,255 --> 00:18:43,832
but there is one thing
that I have discovered.
334
00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,592
What is that, doctor?
335
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:48,461
I like them
better than I like you.
336
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:52,365
Doctor, they do indeed have
one redeeming characteristic.
337
00:18:52,399 --> 00:18:54,167
What's that?
338
00:18:54,201 --> 00:18:56,469
They do not talk too much.
339
00:18:56,503 --> 00:18:59,639
When you have the kind of
cynical wit of McCoy,
340
00:18:59,672 --> 00:19:03,343
and you have the swagger
and braggadocio of Kirk,
341
00:19:03,376 --> 00:19:06,746
and then you have the intellect
and cold reason of Spock,
342
00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:10,583
he's like the perfect human
being all wrapped up in one.
343
00:19:16,623 --> 00:19:21,728
The following
program is brought to you
in living color on NBC.
344
00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,768
That first night of the premiere
345
00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:30,413
we had to actually go
to some friends' house,
346
00:19:30,437 --> 00:19:33,840
because they had a color TV,
a big console color TV.
347
00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:34,907
We did not.
348
00:19:34,941 --> 00:19:37,544
We had a big console
black and white.
349
00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:40,413
Why don't you tell me
I'm an attractive young lady
350
00:19:40,447 --> 00:19:43,550
or ask me if I've
ever been in love?
351
00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:48,721
Tell me how your planet Vulcan
looks on a lazy evening
when the moon is full.
352
00:19:51,258 --> 00:19:53,560
Vulcan has no moon, Miss Uhura.
353
00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:57,297
I'm not surprised, Mr. Spock.
354
00:19:57,330 --> 00:20:00,800
Dad in his costume,
Vulcan costume,
355
00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:03,336
it was like,
"Wow, this is really cool."
356
00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:06,773
I remember it was just such
an exciting night for us.
357
00:20:06,806 --> 00:20:08,541
This is not Nancy.
358
00:20:08,575 --> 00:20:10,810
If she were Nancy,
could she take this?
359
00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:13,813
Stop it! Stop it, Spock!
360
00:20:13,846 --> 00:20:15,248
Stop it!
361
00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:19,551
Do you read?
362
00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:22,589
Frequency open, Mr. Spock.
363
00:20:23,656 --> 00:20:25,425
Spock here, Captain.
364
00:20:33,366 --> 00:20:35,668
Hi, Daddy.
365
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,304
When I came to visit the set...
366
00:20:37,337 --> 00:20:38,614
They started shooting
that first season
367
00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:41,641
at the end of May
and early June in 1966.
368
00:20:41,674 --> 00:20:43,510
I was nine, almost 10 years old,
369
00:20:43,543 --> 00:20:45,812
and I was off
for summer vacation.
370
00:20:45,845 --> 00:20:48,515
And this is why Dad would
take me to work with him.
371
00:20:48,548 --> 00:20:49,825
I would get up early
in the morning,
372
00:20:49,849 --> 00:20:52,685
and we would drive
to Desilu right next
to the Paramount lot,
373
00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:56,389
and I'd be there all day.
374
00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:58,901
So I went out to California,
and of course, Leonard
took care of...
375
00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:01,528
I stayed at Leonard's home.
376
00:21:01,561 --> 00:21:05,498
And he said, "Guess what.
I've got this new show."
377
00:21:05,532 --> 00:21:06,999
This is 1966.
378
00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:08,877
I said, "What is it?" He said,
"It's called 'Star Trek.'"
379
00:21:08,901 --> 00:21:11,571
He said, "You've gotta
come on the set."
I said, "Of course."
380
00:21:11,604 --> 00:21:13,373
You know, I'm in the theater,
381
00:21:13,406 --> 00:21:15,675
and this is my first
time in Hollywood.
382
00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:18,645
And I'm out there,
and I walk on the set,
383
00:21:18,678 --> 00:21:19,979
and I see Leonard.
384
00:21:21,047 --> 00:21:24,584
He came out
from the dressing room,
385
00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,386
and I see this hair.
386
00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:29,322
I see these eyebrows up to here.
387
00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:31,958
And I see these ears on him,
388
00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:35,094
and I said,
"Jeez, what is this?"
389
00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:38,865
And he did a scene,
and he was terrific
in the scene.
390
00:21:38,898 --> 00:21:41,668
But I said...
I got him to the side.
I couldn't believe it.
391
00:21:41,701 --> 00:21:45,805
I said, "Leonard,
Leonard, come here.
I've got talk to you."
392
00:21:45,838 --> 00:21:50,410
I said, "No matter what you do,
you've got to get out of this
as soon as you possibly can."
393
00:21:50,443 --> 00:21:52,979
This is a treadmill
to oblivion."
394
00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:57,417
The review that
"Variety" gave us
395
00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:59,919
when we first went on the air
in September of 1966.
396
00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:06,526
And I thought you'd enjoy
hearing what our show business
Bible said about us
397
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,361
the first week
we went on the air.
398
00:22:08,395 --> 00:22:09,796
This is dated September...
399
00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:14,634
It appeared on
September 14th, 1966,
just a little over 25 years ago.
400
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:17,704
It said, "'Star Trek'
with William Shatner,
Leonard Nomoid..."
401
00:22:21,073 --> 00:22:22,942
"'Star Trek' won't work."
402
00:22:26,779 --> 00:22:29,148
That's the opening line.
403
00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:34,053
Then it says, "An incredible
and dreary mess of confusion..."
404
00:22:34,086 --> 00:22:36,122
"trudged on for a long hour..."
405
00:22:37,557 --> 00:22:41,761
"with hardly any relief
from violence, killings,
hypnotic stuff,
406
00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,163
and a distasteful,
ugly monster."
407
00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:50,703
"William Shatner..." Shush!
408
00:22:50,737 --> 00:22:54,040
"William Shatner
appears wooden," it says.
409
00:22:59,746 --> 00:23:03,516
I didn't say it.
It says it here, right?
410
00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:05,485
I never heard him
accused of being,
411
00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:07,720
accused of being wooden
before, you know.
412
00:23:10,457 --> 00:23:11,824
"Spock!"
413
00:23:15,928 --> 00:23:18,831
"Scotty!"
414
00:23:18,865 --> 00:23:21,801
"I need warp speed
in four minutes,
or we're all dead!"
415
00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:26,806
Then it says, "The same
goes for Leonard Nimoy."
416
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:35,648
There are 500 or 1,000
who could play our characters
effectively.
417
00:23:35,682 --> 00:23:38,217
There's only one person
who could play Mr. Spock.
418
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:45,091
Spock called
for exactly the kind of work
I was prepared to do.
419
00:23:45,124 --> 00:23:48,661
He was a character with a rich
and dynamic inner life,
420
00:23:48,695 --> 00:23:50,730
half human, half Vulcan.
421
00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:53,600
He was the embodiment
of the outsider,
422
00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:57,670
like the immigrants
who surrounded me
in Boston in my early years.
423
00:23:57,704 --> 00:23:59,171
How do you find your way
424
00:23:59,205 --> 00:24:02,208
as the alien
in a foreign culture?
425
00:24:02,241 --> 00:24:05,945
Keep your Vulcan hands off me.
426
00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:08,080
Just keep away.
427
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:12,652
Your feelings might be hurt,
you green-blooded half breed.
428
00:24:12,685 --> 00:24:17,056
May I say that I have
not thoroughly enjoyed
serving with humans.
429
00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:21,127
I find their illogic
and foolish emotions
a constant irritant.
430
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,797
Then transfer out, freak.
431
00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:26,899
Most everyone,
and there are exceptions,
432
00:24:26,933 --> 00:24:30,837
but most everyone feels
a little bit like an outsider.
433
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:32,815
I would argue the most
interesting people seem to.
434
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:36,676
So, there's something
wonderfully comforting
435
00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:41,147
and relatable to know that
Spock felt that way himself.
436
00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:45,952
I grew up as a skinny,
nerdy, gay kid in the south,
437
00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:47,887
you know, in the 70's.
438
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,889
Not exactly
a comfortable existence.
439
00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:52,659
There's a lot of
internal conflict.
440
00:24:52,692 --> 00:24:55,562
So the character of Spock
from the very beginning...
441
00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:57,730
And you know,
when I was five,
I didn't know why,
442
00:24:57,764 --> 00:24:58,841
or seven, I didn't know why,
443
00:24:58,865 --> 00:25:00,867
but I was captivated
444
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:04,904
by this character that was
based on internal conflict.
445
00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:10,610
Spock, I think people
recognize themselves in him.
446
00:25:10,643 --> 00:25:14,947
He is, um, an outsider.
447
00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,549
He is the alien.
448
00:25:16,583 --> 00:25:18,651
I think everyone feels
like an outsider sometimes.
449
00:25:18,685 --> 00:25:21,053
And since he's
a nonhuman outsider,
450
00:25:21,087 --> 00:25:25,091
it's an otherness that
everybody can relate to
in their own way.
451
00:25:25,124 --> 00:25:29,161
People sometimes think
they don't belong in a group.
452
00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:32,599
And really that's what
I've found, you know...
453
00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:36,669
I was very tall from
when I was young,
454
00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:39,772
and I felt apart
from other people.
455
00:25:39,806 --> 00:25:43,109
And I really associated
with that character.
456
00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:49,649
I think it
was the very first episode
457
00:25:49,682 --> 00:25:52,652
we were filming after the pilot
when we started into production.
458
00:25:52,685 --> 00:25:55,755
There was a scene in which
the ship was being threatened
459
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:59,191
by some outside problems,
outside dangerous force,
460
00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:00,803
and there was a lot
of activity on the ship.
461
00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:02,337
The captain was saying,
"Do such and such.
462
00:26:02,361 --> 00:26:06,599
Press this button. Do this.
Warp three. Get us out of here,"
and so forth.
463
00:26:06,633 --> 00:26:10,803
And Spock had one word to say,
and the word was, "Fascinating."
464
00:26:10,837 --> 00:26:12,781
And we're looking at this thing
on the screen, you know,
465
00:26:12,805 --> 00:26:14,817
and everyone else is reacting,
"Oh, look at it. Blah, blah."
466
00:26:14,841 --> 00:26:16,151
And I got caught up
in that energy,
467
00:26:16,175 --> 00:26:18,711
and I said, "Fascinating."
468
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:21,881
And the director gave me
a brilliant note, and he said,
469
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:25,618
"Be different.
Be the scientist.
Be detached.
470
00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:28,788
See it as something
that's a curiosity
rather than a threat."
471
00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:31,791
Fascinating.
472
00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:39,165
Well... a big chunk of the
character was born right there.
473
00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:42,969
If I seem insensitive to what
you're going through, Captain,
474
00:26:43,002 --> 00:26:47,373
understand... it's the way I am.
475
00:26:47,406 --> 00:26:50,977
A lesser actor would say,
"Why would I want to play him?
He doesn't have any emotions."
476
00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:52,745
But he has so many emotions.
477
00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,914
But he also has
emotional control.
478
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,783
Expresses very little
of what he's feeling,
479
00:26:56,816 --> 00:27:00,086
and I think it's fun
for the audience to watch
480
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,355
to see if there's a glimmer
of something that pops through.
481
00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:05,257
I had a very interesting
conversation
482
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:08,294
with your father about Spock,
483
00:27:08,327 --> 00:27:12,364
because we were
talking about him
as a cold, unemotional guy.
484
00:27:12,398 --> 00:27:14,901
And Leonard said, "I never
played him that way."
485
00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:19,005
I always played him
as a guy trying to keep
his emotions in check."
486
00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:23,943
And I thought that was a subtle
and ingenious choice,
487
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:28,214
because it lent
a dynamic tension
to what you saw on the screen,
488
00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:30,016
particularly in the closeups,
489
00:27:30,049 --> 00:27:31,450
of a guy trying
to keep a lid on it.
490
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:32,952
That thing must be destroyed.
491
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:35,922
You tried to destroy it
once before, Commodore.
492
00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:38,958
The result was a wrecked
ship and a dead crew.
493
00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:43,195
I am officially notifying you
that I am exercising my option
494
00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:46,298
under regulations
as a Star Fleet Commodore,
495
00:27:46,332 --> 00:27:48,701
and that I am assuming
command of the Enterprise.
496
00:27:54,841 --> 00:27:57,076
You can't let him
do this, Spock.
497
00:27:57,109 --> 00:27:58,978
Doctor, you are out of line.
498
00:27:59,011 --> 00:28:01,981
So are you... sir.
499
00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:04,283
Well, Spock?
500
00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:08,454
Unfortunately, Star Fleet
Order 104, Section B
leaves me no alternative.
501
00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:10,757
Mr. Spock, I order you
to assume command
502
00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:13,059
on my personal authority
as captain of the Enterprise.
503
00:28:13,092 --> 00:28:17,730
Commodore Decker,
you are relieved of command.
504
00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:21,834
I don't recognize
your authority
to relieve me.
505
00:28:23,402 --> 00:28:27,239
Commodore, I do not wish
to place you under arrest.
506
00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:30,777
You're bluffing.
507
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,045
Vulcans never bluff.
508
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:36,482
I talked about it at the time
being heavily influenced
509
00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:39,385
by what I saw Harry Belafonte
do on stage one night.
510
00:28:39,418 --> 00:28:41,396
He came out on stage,
and a spotlight came up on him,
511
00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:44,323
and he was there.
He just stood there
very quietly.
512
00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,926
Applause. Next song,
stood there quietly and sang.
513
00:28:46,959 --> 00:28:49,095
Now he must have been
on stage 10 or 15 minutes.
514
00:28:49,128 --> 00:28:51,798
He was just standing there
with his hands on his thighs,
515
00:28:51,831 --> 00:28:53,800
and sang,
and when he made a gesture,
516
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,534
it was like
the whole place shook.
517
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:58,470
It was like, "Wow!" You know?
518
00:28:58,504 --> 00:29:00,172
It was gigantic.
519
00:29:00,206 --> 00:29:01,941
Wow, what a lesson.
520
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:06,979
If you are minimal,
then that becomes a big deal.
521
00:29:07,013 --> 00:29:10,182
If you are minimal,
that becomes a big deal.
522
00:29:15,822 --> 00:29:17,489
He's gone.
523
00:29:17,523 --> 00:29:19,425
You make a comment
with an eyebrow,
524
00:29:19,458 --> 00:29:22,995
that's just as powerful
as throwing punches.
525
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:25,865
He didn't wield the human side
frivolously for effect.
526
00:29:25,898 --> 00:29:28,300
Most of the time,
it would be contained,
527
00:29:28,334 --> 00:29:29,936
but occasionally,
528
00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:33,405
you know, most notably
at the end of 'Amok Time, '
529
00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:36,408
when he realizes that
he didn't kill Kirk,
530
00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:38,410
there's a sweet moment
of like, "Jim!"
531
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,579
Which is just so...
It's so earned.
532
00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:43,850
There can be no excuse
for the crime of which
I'm guilty.
533
00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:45,451
I intend to offer no defense.
534
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:47,386
Furthermore,
I shall order Mr. Scott
535
00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:48,964
to take immediate command
of this vessel.
536
00:29:48,988 --> 00:29:50,957
Don't you think
you'd better check
with me first?
537
00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:52,191
Captain!
538
00:29:53,492 --> 00:29:54,793
Jim!
539
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,872
I'm... pleased
to see you, Captain.
540
00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:09,008
You seem... uninjured.
541
00:30:10,943 --> 00:30:12,444
What is the purpose of a toy?
542
00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:13,745
To be played with.
543
00:30:13,779 --> 00:30:17,049
Therefore, to not play
with it would be...
544
00:30:17,083 --> 00:30:18,184
Illogical.
545
00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:21,087
Damn it, Spock, you're right.
546
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:27,559
You can look at a lot
of progenitor characters
for Sheldon,
547
00:30:27,593 --> 00:30:32,531
but absolutely, absolutely
one of them is Spock.
Absolutely.
548
00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:37,103
And in fact, in the episode
549
00:30:37,136 --> 00:30:41,874
in which Sheldon is interviewed
for this very documentary
550
00:30:41,908 --> 00:30:45,277
that I am currently
speaking to you in,
551
00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:47,313
one of the things
Sheldon talks about
552
00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:49,481
is his desire to be Spock.
553
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:51,583
And that's not a new invention.
554
00:30:51,617 --> 00:30:57,089
That's something that has
existed for that character
from the very beginning.
555
00:30:57,123 --> 00:31:00,960
When I was eight years old,
Billy sparks cornered me
in the playground.
556
00:31:00,993 --> 00:31:03,229
I asked myself,
"What would Spock do?"
557
00:31:03,262 --> 00:31:05,331
Then I grabbed Billy
on his shoulder
558
00:31:05,364 --> 00:31:08,400
and performed
my first Vulcan
nerve pinch.
559
00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:09,501
Did it work?
560
00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:11,637
Oh, no, he broke my collarbone.
561
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:16,508
So the script was written then
that Spock comes up behind,
562
00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:18,277
sneaks up behind the mean Kirk,
563
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:21,113
and hits him on the head
with the butt of a gun.
564
00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:22,748
That's what was
written in the script.
565
00:31:22,781 --> 00:31:26,953
So I said to the director,
"I think we should do
something different than that."
566
00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:29,197
He said, "What do you...
What do you mean?
What do you have in mind?"
567
00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:30,698
And I said,
"Well, Spock is a graduate
568
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,558
of the Vulcan Institute
of Technology..."
569
00:31:34,493 --> 00:31:37,663
"where he took
a number of courses
in human anatomy."
570
00:31:37,696 --> 00:31:43,002
And the Vulcans have
a kind of energy that
comes off their fingertips,
571
00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:46,305
which if properly applied
to the appropriate
pressure points
572
00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:49,141
on the human anatomy,
will render a human
unconscious.
573
00:31:49,175 --> 00:31:51,978
- And the guy didn't know
what I was talking about.
574
00:31:52,011 --> 00:31:55,314
But I told him,
and he knew exactly
what I was talking about.
575
00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:59,251
And when I came up behind him,
and I put my hand on his neck,
he...
576
00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:00,252
He's the one that sold it.
577
00:32:00,286 --> 00:32:03,089
He went like like that
and dropped like a rock.
578
00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:10,929
There's a multi-legged creature
crawling on your shoulder.
579
00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:20,072
I'd like you to teach
me that some time.
580
00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:26,478
Our minds are merging, Doctor.
581
00:32:26,512 --> 00:32:28,714
Our minds are one.
582
00:32:29,748 --> 00:32:32,151
I feel what you feel.
583
00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,454
I know what you know.
584
00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:38,690
I like the fact that Spock
could communicate
with other species
585
00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:42,995
through thoughts rather
than through words.
Brilliant.
586
00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:48,567
What in the name of...
587
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,104
The man talked to a rock
for goodness sake
and heard it.
588
00:32:52,138 --> 00:32:53,505
"Oh, she's pregnant."
589
00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:54,940
It's a rock, okay.
590
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:58,744
That was good, because
the rock is not going
to speak English to you.
591
00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:04,116
Think of how many science
fiction stories in that decade
and the decades preceding
592
00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:06,270
where you'd meet aliens,
and the aliens spoke English.
593
00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:13,025
We didn't think to think
that that would not happen.
594
00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:15,527
You've got to crawl
before you walk.
I get that.
595
00:33:15,561 --> 00:33:19,565
But "Star Trek" not only
knew how to crawl,
and knew how to walk.
596
00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:20,599
It was running.
597
00:33:44,823 --> 00:33:48,194
The Vulcan greeting is
a wonderful sentiment,
598
00:33:48,227 --> 00:33:50,129
"Live long and prosper."
599
00:33:50,162 --> 00:33:55,134
And this too is something
that was contributed
by your father on the set.
600
00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:57,536
We had a wonderful script
601
00:33:57,569 --> 00:34:01,473
by Theodore Sturgeon
called 'Amok Time.'
602
00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:03,175
We arrive on the planet,
603
00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:07,146
and a procession comes out
from the city to greet us.
604
00:34:07,179 --> 00:34:08,347
I said to the director,
605
00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:11,183
"I think we should
have some kind of
a special greeting.
606
00:34:11,217 --> 00:34:13,585
"Asian people bow to each other.
607
00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:15,787
"Military people
salute each other.
608
00:34:15,821 --> 00:34:18,590
I think Vulcans should have
some kind of a greeting."
609
00:34:18,624 --> 00:34:21,627
And he said, "What would
you like to do?"
610
00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:23,695
And I said, "How about this?"
611
00:34:25,697 --> 00:34:30,136
Where it came from was
from my childhood of going
612
00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:33,739
to synagogue
on the High Holidays
with my family.
613
00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:37,476
There's a moment
where a group of men
get up before the congregation,
614
00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:41,813
cover their heads
with their prayer shawls,
chant a prayer.
615
00:34:41,847 --> 00:34:44,216
My father said, "Don't look."
616
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:47,453
I'm about eight
or nine years old,
so I snuck a peek.
617
00:34:47,486 --> 00:34:50,456
And what I saw were
these gentleman out there
who were doing the shouting
618
00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:54,526
had their hands out towards
the congregation like that,
both hands.
619
00:34:56,762 --> 00:35:01,867
I found out later this is
the shape of a letter shin
in the Hebrew alphabet.
620
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:06,172
The letter shin is
the first letter
in the word Shaddai,
621
00:35:06,205 --> 00:35:07,606
the name of God.
622
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,742
Well, I survived.
I peeked, and I survived.
623
00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:13,779
But I was so intrigued
with that gesture,
624
00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:17,416
and I suggested that
we do that as Vulcans.
625
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:20,519
Within days after
that episode
was on the air,
626
00:35:20,552 --> 00:35:23,689
I started getting that gesture
back on the streets.
627
00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:45,211
You know, a lot of times
people ask me what it was
like living with Spock,
628
00:35:45,244 --> 00:35:47,946
and for the most part,
during that period,
629
00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:50,682
Dad was not home much at all.
I didn't see him.
630
00:35:50,716 --> 00:35:55,387
He was really focused
on what he was doing
at the studio
631
00:35:55,421 --> 00:35:56,788
and for the show.
632
00:35:56,822 --> 00:35:59,491
His usual routine
during the week was
he would get up very early.
633
00:35:59,525 --> 00:36:02,794
He'd come home at 7:00
or 8:00 at night,
634
00:36:02,828 --> 00:36:05,331
eat his dinner,
memorize his lines.
635
00:36:05,364 --> 00:36:06,865
He'd run the lines
with my mother
636
00:36:06,898 --> 00:36:08,967
and then just go to sleep
and start all over again.
637
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,437
So during the week,
he wasn't around hardly at all.
638
00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:14,906
We spent a lot of, you know,
our, quite a few years...
639
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:17,276
Actually, from "Star Trek"
to "Mission,"
640
00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:20,579
with him not being home
during the weekdays.
641
00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:22,648
Even when Dad was
around at home,
642
00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:24,850
oftentimes, he was
very quiet and remote.
643
00:36:24,883 --> 00:36:26,952
He was still kind of
in his Spock bag,
644
00:36:26,985 --> 00:36:28,620
because he liked
to stay in character.
645
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:30,789
You play a character
like that...
646
00:36:30,822 --> 00:36:34,660
What? Eight, 10,
12 hours a day,
five days a week,
647
00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:37,896
-most of your waking life then
is in that character.
-Mm-hmm.
648
00:36:37,929 --> 00:36:42,534
And I'd find it very difficult
to turn it on and turn it off.
649
00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:46,372
So stepping out of the set
and into a chair waiting
for the next setup,
650
00:36:46,405 --> 00:36:47,506
I couldn't shift out of it.
651
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,409
I believed in making that
investment in the character.
652
00:36:50,442 --> 00:36:53,279
Particularly, that kind of
character that was so boxed.
653
00:36:53,312 --> 00:36:57,483
A lot of the time he wasn't
available to hang out with,
654
00:36:57,516 --> 00:37:00,519
to... do things with.
655
00:37:00,552 --> 00:37:03,655
He was... He was
sort of in his world.
656
00:37:03,689 --> 00:37:06,392
He was occasionally
Leonard-like,
657
00:37:06,425 --> 00:37:08,527
but mostly, he was Spock.
658
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,629
So I never really got
to know him very well.
659
00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:14,300
I got to know Spock
a little bit better
than I got to know your dad.
660
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:17,303
I mean, he was totally dedicated
to playing that character
661
00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:19,338
and to being that character,
and it showed.
662
00:37:19,371 --> 00:37:23,342
If I stay in character
or kind of don't joke around,
663
00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:25,777
it's more a function of me...
664
00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:29,715
It's slightly closer
to being a panicked grip
665
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:32,984
than it is being an artist,
I'm afraid.
666
00:37:33,018 --> 00:37:34,620
It's just, I don't
want to lose it.
667
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:37,656
You kind of have to get
into the character's head.
668
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:40,626
And if you come out of it,
and then they go, "Roll camera,"
669
00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,594
if you're off by that much,
670
00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:46,465
you could either
underplay a moment
or overplay a moment.
671
00:37:52,037 --> 00:37:54,673
Fan mail started
arriving pretty regularly
672
00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:56,174
in late '66,
673
00:37:56,207 --> 00:37:59,545
and there was some issue
whether or not the studio
would handle the mail,
674
00:37:59,578 --> 00:38:01,112
the network would
handle the mail.
675
00:38:01,146 --> 00:38:03,325
They didn't want to do it.
They wanted, you know,
Leonard to handle the mail,
676
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:05,617
which he did
in his office
for a while.
677
00:38:05,651 --> 00:38:07,586
There was an interview
in "16 Magazine,"
678
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:09,521
I think it was
the spring of '67,
679
00:38:09,555 --> 00:38:14,460
and somehow, accidentally,
they published our home address
680
00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:17,329
as the mailing address
for the fan mail.
681
00:38:17,363 --> 00:38:20,399
Within days, the mailman
stopped coming.
682
00:38:20,432 --> 00:38:23,969
It was a truck that arrived
with sacks of mail,
683
00:38:24,002 --> 00:38:26,538
and we were answering it.
684
00:38:26,572 --> 00:38:27,873
It came into our dining room.
685
00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:29,875
We had the dining room
table all set up
686
00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:31,176
with the mail that we opened,
687
00:38:31,209 --> 00:38:35,113
and we stuffed envelopes
with this early Spock
promo picture.
688
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:37,883
It was one of
our "family activities,"
689
00:38:37,916 --> 00:38:39,351
you know, was
answering fan mail.
690
00:38:39,385 --> 00:38:40,652
Personal life was gone.
691
00:38:40,686 --> 00:38:42,096
Yeah, it started
happening very fast.
692
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,089
And to show you how naive I was,
693
00:38:44,122 --> 00:38:46,758
at that time,
I still had my phone
listed in the phone book,
694
00:38:46,792 --> 00:38:48,035
and my address,
and it was all...
695
00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:49,737
You know, I'd never dreamed
that there was going to be any,
696
00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:53,499
that kind of impact, because
I'd been on television before
and done movies before,
697
00:38:53,532 --> 00:38:55,643
and I was listed
in the phone book.
Didn't matter to me.
698
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,504
We started getting
a lot of fan mail,
not only fan mail,
699
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:01,973
but fans coming to our door,
knocking down the door.
700
00:39:02,007 --> 00:39:04,376
We started getting people
driving by the house,
and parking,
701
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:07,413
and ripping at the shrubbery
to have a souvenir, you know,
702
00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:10,148
and taking my grass,
and my leaves, and whatever.
703
00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:11,617
Some of them would
knock on the door
704
00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:13,719
and ask to be
invited in to visit.
705
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:17,423
It got really crazy. Yeah, yeah.
706
00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:19,090
It got really crazy for a while.
707
00:39:21,593 --> 00:39:23,161
What about when
you came back to Boston
708
00:39:23,194 --> 00:39:24,238
during the "Star Trek" years?
709
00:39:24,262 --> 00:39:26,565
Yeah, that was kind of exciting
710
00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:28,434
and a little difficult.
711
00:39:30,636 --> 00:39:33,038
People were following me
in the street,
712
00:39:33,071 --> 00:39:35,707
and I didn't really want people
to know where I was living.
713
00:39:35,741 --> 00:39:37,519
I was staying with my folks,
with your grandparents.
714
00:39:37,543 --> 00:39:38,644
Right.
715
00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:42,548
And they didn't have any idea
what "Star Trek" was.
716
00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:44,115
They didn't get it.
717
00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:46,552
All they knew was
something had happened.
718
00:39:46,585 --> 00:39:48,587
How did they react
when they saw your haircut?
719
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:51,022
My dad actually thought
I was wearing a wig.
720
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:55,126
He had a picture of me
as Spock up on the wall
in the barbershop,
721
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,696
and kids would come in and say,
"I want a Spock haircut."
722
00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:04,803
Once word filtered through
to network executives
723
00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:06,972
about Spock's popularity,
they said to Roddenberry,
724
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:10,809
"Say, why aren't you doing more
with that Martian on the show?"
725
00:40:10,842 --> 00:40:13,044
There's that element
of competition,
726
00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:14,913
particularly the first season,
727
00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:21,019
because, um...
the titular star
was Bill Shatner.
728
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:24,556
Leonard was
the secondary character.
729
00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,826
But when the show
went on the air,
730
00:40:27,859 --> 00:40:32,964
people were absolutely
magnetically attracted
to Spock.
731
00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:35,934
So I'm asked to be the captain,
732
00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:39,738
and it's the captain's show,
and that's great.
733
00:40:39,771 --> 00:40:45,644
Quite frequently,
another character rises
to the top as well.
734
00:40:45,677 --> 00:40:48,614
I go to Roddenberry,
735
00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:51,449
who then says very wisely...
736
00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:57,055
"If Spock is popular,
then Kirk is popular,
737
00:40:57,088 --> 00:41:00,626
and the show is popular,
and that's what we all want."
738
00:41:00,659 --> 00:41:02,260
And I thought,
"You know, he's right."
739
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:05,230
And from that moment on,
740
00:41:05,263 --> 00:41:07,899
I encompassed
the popularity of Spock,
741
00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:13,572
and, uh, was okay with it,
and, uh, enjoyed it.
742
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:20,679
Jim, I feel friendship for you.
743
00:41:20,712 --> 00:41:22,047
I'm ashamed.
744
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,683
You've got to hear me!
745
00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:27,886
Kirk is the physical
embodiment of the show,
746
00:41:27,919 --> 00:41:31,523
and Spock is the spiritual
embodiment of the show.
747
00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:36,662
And I think it's how
these two guys carved out
748
00:41:36,695 --> 00:41:40,666
their specific spaces
in this little universe.
749
00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:55,814
Kirk was always doing
wild and crazy things
750
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,282
and sleeping with aliens,
751
00:41:57,315 --> 00:41:59,585
and Spock was always thoughtful,
752
00:41:59,618 --> 00:42:01,687
and moving in
a very deliberate way,
753
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,689
and sort of putting the brakes
754
00:42:03,722 --> 00:42:06,758
on some of
the more physical urges
that people had.
755
00:42:06,792 --> 00:42:08,727
You can save it, girls.
756
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,229
This type can turn himself
off from any emotion.
757
00:42:11,262 --> 00:42:13,732
I think that
his Vulcan side
prevents him
758
00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:19,337
from allowing the testosterone
in his human side
to get the best of him.
759
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:22,574
And that is
very appealing
for women,
760
00:42:22,608 --> 00:42:23,685
at least for women like me.
761
00:42:23,709 --> 00:42:26,177
I don't... I don't...
762
00:42:26,211 --> 00:42:30,348
Motorcycles, and car oils,
and, "Hey, baby..."
763
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:33,218
I just... I just...
It's not my thing.
764
00:42:33,251 --> 00:42:35,621
I like more of
an intellectual, humble soul
765
00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:39,925
that kind of blows your mind
in just a conversation,
766
00:42:39,958 --> 00:42:41,893
and I feel like
Spock is that like.
767
00:42:41,927 --> 00:42:45,764
So I wouldn't be surprised
why women found him
really appealing.
768
00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:49,801
Bridge to Captain Kirk.
769
00:42:51,803 --> 00:42:52,803
Kirk here.
770
00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:55,907
I had no idea.
771
00:42:55,941 --> 00:42:57,709
What?
772
00:42:57,743 --> 00:43:00,612
He's so much more
handsome in person.
773
00:43:00,646 --> 00:43:01,980
Those eyes.
774
00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:04,349
Kirk had quite
the reputation
as a lady's man.
775
00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:06,618
Not him.
776
00:43:06,652 --> 00:43:07,986
Spock.
777
00:43:08,019 --> 00:43:11,690
There was just
something about him
that women found attractive.
778
00:43:11,723 --> 00:43:15,093
He himself was kind of flirty,
779
00:43:15,126 --> 00:43:19,030
and women kind of
flirted with him.
780
00:43:19,064 --> 00:43:24,069
You only take a mate
once every seven years?
781
00:43:24,102 --> 00:43:26,972
The seven-year cycle...
782
00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:30,041
is biologically inherent
in all Vulcans.
783
00:43:30,776 --> 00:43:32,377
At that time,
784
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:36,014
the mating drive outweighs
all other motivations.
785
00:43:46,324 --> 00:43:52,263
And is there nothing that can
disturb that cycle, Mr. Spock?
786
00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:56,067
When did you get first
interested into fellas?
787
00:43:56,101 --> 00:43:57,101
Uh...
788
00:43:58,770 --> 00:44:00,371
Spock, yes.
789
00:44:00,405 --> 00:44:01,707
What was it about him?
790
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:05,744
He was so repressed,
and you just wanted
to make him scream.
791
00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:09,981
I'm, uh... I'm rather repressed.
792
00:44:10,882 --> 00:44:13,184
I don't think
this is that different
793
00:44:13,218 --> 00:44:16,221
from the which Beatle
do you love most, you know?
794
00:44:16,254 --> 00:44:18,189
I like the less emotional,
795
00:44:18,223 --> 00:44:21,827
more, you know, kind of
obtuse, bizarre type.
796
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:25,463
So I think there's always
going to be a Spock female
versus a Kirk female.
797
00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:30,201
I was one of the first
to find them, the spores.
798
00:44:32,237 --> 00:44:33,805
Spores?
799
00:44:46,484 --> 00:44:47,484
Now...
800
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:51,757
Now, you belong to all of us...
801
00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:53,925
and we to you.
802
00:44:53,959 --> 00:44:57,829
There's no need to hide
your inner face any longer.
803
00:44:57,863 --> 00:44:59,330
We understand.
804
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,476
I love you.
805
00:45:13,879 --> 00:45:15,380
I can love you.
806
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,490
This is the perfect opportunity
for a love story for Spock,
807
00:45:25,523 --> 00:45:28,293
because the spores release
all of those things
808
00:45:28,326 --> 00:45:31,863
that hold in
his emotions,
his logic,
809
00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:34,966
and will allow him to feel
like a real person.
810
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,270
And this is unusual for him.
It's unknown for him.
811
00:45:41,406 --> 00:45:43,308
But we're happy here.
812
00:45:45,043 --> 00:45:48,046
I can't lose you now,
Mr. Spock. I can't.
813
00:45:49,214 --> 00:45:53,018
I have a responsibility...
814
00:45:53,051 --> 00:45:55,086
to the ship...
815
00:45:56,087 --> 00:45:58,756
and that man on the bridge.
816
00:46:01,226 --> 00:46:03,895
I am what I am, Leila.
817
00:46:05,163 --> 00:46:09,334
And if there are
self-made purgatories...
818
00:46:09,367 --> 00:46:12,770
and we all have
to live in them...
819
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,842
mine can be no worse
than someone else's.
820
00:46:30,155 --> 00:46:34,893
* Cotton candy on a summer day
821
00:46:34,926 --> 00:46:39,597
* Green grass on a hillside
822
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:44,369
* Could they turn
my love around? *
823
00:46:44,402 --> 00:46:46,972
* Could they bring her
back to my side? *
824
00:46:47,005 --> 00:46:49,240
Well, he was
a better singer
than I was.
825
00:46:49,274 --> 00:46:52,043
I mean, he could, uh...
826
00:46:52,077 --> 00:46:54,913
He could sustain a note.
827
00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:57,082
Uh, off-key, but sustain a note.
828
00:47:00,118 --> 00:47:03,021
* His love is a merry-go-round
829
00:47:03,054 --> 00:47:05,056
* He will drag you down
830
00:47:05,090 --> 00:47:07,592
* A trip to nowhere
831
00:47:07,625 --> 00:47:11,963
* A world without love
832
00:47:17,368 --> 00:47:19,437
He was basically
keeping himself busy
833
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:21,506
by making hay
while the sun
was shining.
834
00:47:21,539 --> 00:47:24,142
I mean, that was
his whole philosophy.
835
00:47:24,175 --> 00:47:27,012
He knew he was
riding this wave,
and it was very exciting.
836
00:47:27,045 --> 00:47:29,347
But he also knew
that it could be
over very quickly,
837
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:32,117
and we could be back into
the financial struggle
that we were in
838
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:33,418
before "Star Trek" came along.
839
00:47:33,451 --> 00:47:37,155
I always told him,
"You can take the boy
out of the West End,
840
00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:40,191
but you can't take
the West End
out of the boy."
841
00:47:40,225 --> 00:47:41,292
I live with one.
842
00:47:43,461 --> 00:47:46,164
What does that mean?
843
00:47:46,197 --> 00:47:52,037
Well, uh, he developed
a very strong work ethic.
844
00:47:54,072 --> 00:47:58,076
I rarely turned down
any paid engagement.
845
00:47:58,109 --> 00:47:59,945
I'd seen many
of my actor friends
846
00:47:59,978 --> 00:48:01,913
go to work
on a series
for a few years
847
00:48:01,947 --> 00:48:04,249
and live up to the level
of their income,
848
00:48:04,282 --> 00:48:06,051
and then when
the series was canceled,
849
00:48:06,084 --> 00:48:07,552
they were once again
looking for work
850
00:48:07,585 --> 00:48:10,588
with no steady income
and no money in the bank.
851
00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:13,591
I made a private pact
with myself
852
00:48:13,624 --> 00:48:16,327
that this would never happen
to me and my family.
853
00:48:16,361 --> 00:48:20,331
So every time I was offered
a paid appearance, I took it.
854
00:48:23,034 --> 00:48:26,371
This meant that I left
the studio at 5:00 or 6:00
on Friday night.
855
00:48:26,404 --> 00:48:29,140
I took a red eye flight
to my destination.
856
00:48:29,174 --> 00:48:32,710
I'd arrive on the East Coast
around 6:00 Saturday morning
857
00:48:32,743 --> 00:48:36,047
and catch the last flight
out on Sunday night.
858
00:48:36,081 --> 00:48:37,548
I can remember a time or two
859
00:48:37,582 --> 00:48:40,651
when I got back to Los Angeles
at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning
on Monday.
860
00:48:40,685 --> 00:48:44,089
I'd go right to the studio,
stagger into my dressing room,
861
00:48:44,122 --> 00:48:46,524
and catch
a few hours sleep
on the couch.
862
00:48:46,557 --> 00:48:48,994
From there, I headed
right into makeup.
863
00:48:55,466 --> 00:48:57,235
There were a number
of photographers
864
00:48:57,268 --> 00:48:59,637
who showed up
to take our picture
in those early days,
865
00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:02,673
'66, '67, and into '68,
866
00:49:02,707 --> 00:49:04,542
and we were
happy to do it.
It was fun.
867
00:49:04,575 --> 00:49:06,611
I've got to admit.
It was like a circus.
868
00:49:06,644 --> 00:49:09,047
It was a joyride,
and it was really
a good time.
869
00:49:22,727 --> 00:49:25,196
First, it was like novel.
It was great.
870
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:27,565
It was like, "Oh,
wow, we're getting
our picture taken."
871
00:49:27,598 --> 00:49:30,301
We're going to be
in a magazine.
It's so cool."
872
00:49:30,335 --> 00:49:32,770
But after a while,
it got tiresome.
873
00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:36,141
It became sort of
an invasion of our life,
874
00:49:36,174 --> 00:49:38,676
and us not really understanding,
875
00:49:38,709 --> 00:49:42,013
you know,
"Why do we have to do this?
Why is this so important?"
876
00:49:42,047 --> 00:49:43,281
We were young.
877
00:49:43,314 --> 00:49:46,051
There was one time...
I believe it was 1970.
878
00:49:46,084 --> 00:49:47,161
There was a photographer there,
879
00:49:47,185 --> 00:49:49,254
and we were supposed
to come in and take pictures,
880
00:49:49,287 --> 00:49:50,431
and Julie and I were like,
"Huh-uh."
881
00:49:50,455 --> 00:49:52,590
We joined together,
we unionized,
and we said no.
882
00:49:52,623 --> 00:49:54,259
You can't say no to Leonard.
883
00:49:54,292 --> 00:49:55,726
I've got to tell you.
It's just...
884
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,096
I mean, we felt guilty.
We wanted to support him,
885
00:49:58,129 --> 00:50:00,631
but we were really done
with the whole...
886
00:50:00,665 --> 00:50:02,400
the whole publicity routine.
887
00:50:02,433 --> 00:50:04,535
We took a really good
family portrait
888
00:50:04,569 --> 00:50:08,306
which is emblematic,
I think, of where we were
at that time in our lives,
889
00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:10,275
because no one is smiling.
890
00:50:17,082 --> 00:50:19,550
In "Star Trek", in the mid-60s,
891
00:50:19,584 --> 00:50:24,455
creating this character
who would soon become
a pop culture icon...
892
00:50:24,489 --> 00:50:27,158
My dad was never
really that in touch
893
00:50:27,192 --> 00:50:30,095
with what was going on
in popular culture.
894
00:50:30,128 --> 00:50:33,531
It's so interesting that
when he was at home
during leisure time,
895
00:50:33,564 --> 00:50:37,168
he was listening
to records of guys
like Heath Mantan,
896
00:50:37,202 --> 00:50:39,804
and Lou Rawls,
and Charles Aznavour.
897
00:50:39,837 --> 00:50:43,841
Our mom was...
ahead of her time.
898
00:50:43,874 --> 00:50:47,612
At first, when you look
back at pictures of her,
899
00:50:47,645 --> 00:50:52,217
she was dressed
very, uh, 50's housewife
900
00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:53,784
but still had style.
901
00:51:06,164 --> 00:51:09,867
Dad stayed still very, you know,
in his dressing, conservative,
902
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:14,605
but Mom tried to, you know,
change his style up a bit.
903
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:18,109
So he started, you know,
wearing a little cooler clothes,
904
00:51:18,143 --> 00:51:21,746
some jeans, the little scarf,
you know, around his neck.
905
00:51:21,779 --> 00:51:24,149
And his hair was done
a little cooler.
906
00:51:24,182 --> 00:51:28,286
Even though he had
the Spock haircut, you know,
907
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:30,788
somehow he could brush it
off to the side a little bit,
908
00:51:30,821 --> 00:51:34,292
and he looked a little,
a little hipper, yeah.
909
00:52:00,185 --> 00:52:03,754
NBC failed to renew "Star Trek"
for a fourth season.
910
00:52:06,357 --> 00:52:09,160
A short time
after we finished
shooting for "Star Trek,"
911
00:52:09,194 --> 00:52:12,197
I signed on with
"Mission Impossible."
912
00:52:18,803 --> 00:52:20,405
Before he started on "Mission,"
913
00:52:20,438 --> 00:52:22,340
there was
a press conference
in Honolulu
914
00:52:22,373 --> 00:52:24,809
announcing that
he was joining the show.
915
00:52:26,877 --> 00:52:28,779
It was a very exciting
experience for me
916
00:52:28,813 --> 00:52:30,748
to be there
spending time
with Dad.
917
00:52:30,781 --> 00:52:34,785
Although, by then,
sharing him with the fans
had become a part of my life.
918
00:52:34,819 --> 00:52:36,787
My character, Paris The Great,
919
00:52:36,821 --> 00:52:38,356
was a master of disguise.
920
00:52:38,389 --> 00:52:41,292
Therefore, I got to play
a multitude of characters,
921
00:52:41,326 --> 00:52:44,662
old men, Asians,
South American dictators,
922
00:52:44,695 --> 00:52:47,465
blind men, Europeans.
923
00:52:47,498 --> 00:52:49,267
But then, before I knew it,
924
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:51,536
I was playing
the South American
dictator again,
925
00:52:51,569 --> 00:52:55,773
and the Asian,
and the old man,
and the blind guy.
926
00:52:55,806 --> 00:52:57,542
It got boring.
927
00:52:57,575 --> 00:52:59,877
A short while later,
I left the show.
928
00:53:03,748 --> 00:53:05,316
After "Mission Impossible",
929
00:53:05,350 --> 00:53:07,552
I played Tevye in
"Fiddler On The Roof."
930
00:53:07,585 --> 00:53:09,687
It was only the first experience
931
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,890
in my extremely enjoyable
theatrical career.
932
00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:15,926
In "Fiddler on the Roof",
he was magnificent.
933
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,697
He was very precise.
934
00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:22,933
He avoided every cliche.
935
00:53:22,967 --> 00:53:28,439
And as he grew into the role,
he was extravagant.
936
00:53:28,473 --> 00:53:32,977
His portrayal of Tevye
in "Fiddler On The Roof"
was utterly fantastic.
937
00:53:33,010 --> 00:53:35,380
Probably the best
of any I've seen.
938
00:53:35,413 --> 00:53:38,449
- Because he was an actor.
- Like a real actor.
939
00:53:38,483 --> 00:53:45,456
I think he realized that
what would make that work
in a non-Broadway setting
940
00:53:45,490 --> 00:53:49,260
was it was about him,
and his wife, and his kids.
941
00:53:49,294 --> 00:53:51,596
And it was
beautifully sculptured.
942
00:53:51,629 --> 00:53:54,665
I went on
to appear as Fagin in "Oliver,"
943
00:53:54,699 --> 00:53:56,434
Arthur in "Camelot",
944
00:53:56,467 --> 00:54:00,271
and a one-man play
about Vincent Van Gogh.
945
00:54:00,305 --> 00:54:02,673
In the early '70s,
Dad was in a play called
946
00:54:02,707 --> 00:54:05,543
"Man in the Glass Booth,"
and it was a terrific play.
947
00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:07,412
He really owned up to that role.
948
00:54:07,445 --> 00:54:09,680
And as I watched him
night after night,
949
00:54:09,714 --> 00:54:13,751
he was completely unrecognizable
to me as my own father.
950
00:54:13,784 --> 00:54:17,688
He had to play a wealthy...
951
00:54:17,722 --> 00:54:24,295
braggadocio, vain,
egocentric New York Jew.
952
00:54:24,329 --> 00:54:27,565
Not a Jewish man, but a Jew.
953
00:54:27,598 --> 00:54:31,869
And as the play develops,
when the Jew gets arrested
954
00:54:31,902 --> 00:54:36,307
as being a concentration
camp commandant,
955
00:54:36,341 --> 00:54:40,545
he then has to play
the meanest, most committed,
956
00:54:40,578 --> 00:54:46,851
most devoted Nazi officer
you can imagine.
957
00:54:46,884 --> 00:54:49,854
And he stands up in the booth.
958
00:54:49,887 --> 00:54:53,023
Not supposed to do
that in Israeli court.
959
00:54:53,057 --> 00:54:55,460
He stands up,
and he's in his regalia.
960
00:54:55,493 --> 00:54:58,295
He's in his uniform,
but he doesn't have his hat on.
961
00:54:59,530 --> 00:55:04,669
And when he put
that hat on,
he changed.
962
00:55:04,702 --> 00:55:06,904
You didn't want to
go anywhere near him.
963
00:55:09,974 --> 00:55:13,744
- Very quietly...
- And this was him.
964
00:55:13,778 --> 00:55:17,448
He starts moving like this.
965
00:55:17,482 --> 00:55:22,853
And he marches
to the last bit of dialogue.
966
00:55:22,887 --> 00:55:26,457
And it gets louder,
and louder, and louder.
967
00:55:26,491 --> 00:55:29,894
If a director had
come up with that,
he should get an award.
968
00:55:29,927 --> 00:55:32,497
The actor came up with it,
and he should get an award.
969
00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:34,064
It was chilling.
970
00:55:37,435 --> 00:55:41,439
The times when your dad
was performing in New York,
971
00:55:41,472 --> 00:55:43,149
and then we would see
each other very often,
972
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:46,143
and that's when they
started to go closer.
973
00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:47,945
And then we became his groupies.
974
00:55:47,978 --> 00:55:51,916
When he performed anyplace
east of the Mississippi,
975
00:55:51,949 --> 00:55:54,552
we would fly out to be there.
976
00:56:06,764 --> 00:56:10,868
One summer, he did two plays.
977
00:56:10,901 --> 00:56:13,704
One in Michigan,
and one in Wisconsin.
978
00:56:13,738 --> 00:56:19,444
And at that time,
he was flying his own
single engine airplane,
979
00:56:19,477 --> 00:56:22,012
and I flew
a lot with him.
I love flying.
980
00:56:22,046 --> 00:56:24,682
So, I plotted
the entire course out.
981
00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:27,685
I took lessons,
and I got my little license.
982
00:56:27,718 --> 00:56:30,888
Not a pilot's license. I got...
They call it a pinch hitter.
983
00:56:30,921 --> 00:56:32,623
So that if anything
happened to him,
984
00:56:32,657 --> 00:56:35,426
I could take over
without a problem.
985
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:41,732
And that was probably
one of the best times
I ever had with him.
986
00:56:41,766 --> 00:56:44,835
The decade of the '70s
was kind of an interesting
period for my dad,
987
00:56:44,869 --> 00:56:46,447
because he had done
so much theater work.
988
00:56:46,471 --> 00:56:48,105
He was really kind of
proving himself
989
00:56:48,138 --> 00:56:50,775
as the character actor
that he always wanted to be.
990
00:56:50,808 --> 00:56:54,479
He also hosted multiple
seasons of "In Search Of."
991
00:56:54,512 --> 00:56:55,656
underwritten in part
by a national...
992
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,848
And he was in
Philip Kaufman's remake
993
00:56:57,882 --> 00:57:00,451
of "Invasion of the
Body Snatchers."
994
00:57:00,485 --> 00:57:01,862
They were shooting
in San Francisco,
995
00:57:01,886 --> 00:57:03,854
and I happened to be
in school at Berkeley,
996
00:57:03,888 --> 00:57:06,857
and it was just a lot of fun
watching them make that film.
997
00:57:06,891 --> 00:57:08,759
But what happens to us?
998
00:57:08,793 --> 00:57:11,161
You'll be born again
into an untroubled world.
999
00:57:11,195 --> 00:57:14,031
He was a multifaceted
individual that is for sure.
1000
00:57:14,064 --> 00:57:16,901
I knew that as a kid.
I used to watch "In Search Of,"
1001
00:57:16,934 --> 00:57:19,236
and I remember him in
the Kaufman "Body Snatchers"
1002
00:57:19,269 --> 00:57:21,706
and "Mission Impossible,"
you know.
1003
00:57:21,739 --> 00:57:25,510
Uh, he was never just Spock
to me even growing up.
1004
00:57:25,543 --> 00:57:29,013
We came here from a dying world.
1005
00:57:29,046 --> 00:57:32,149
We drift through the universe
from planet to planet
1006
00:57:32,182 --> 00:57:34,919
pushed on by the solar winds.
1007
00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:37,922
We adapt, and we survive.
1008
00:57:45,195 --> 00:57:47,932
Captain, I found this device
on my console.
1009
00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:50,968
It seems to serve
no useful function and...
1010
00:57:53,137 --> 00:57:54,705
Captain?
1011
00:57:54,739 --> 00:57:57,842
I'm sorry, Spock, It's your...
1012
00:58:00,878 --> 00:58:06,684
When they began casting,
we weren't... I wasn't called.
1013
00:58:06,717 --> 00:58:09,186
It was decided that
George in the show
1014
00:58:09,219 --> 00:58:12,690
would not appear on the series.
1015
00:58:12,723 --> 00:58:15,626
And I thought,
"What's happening?"
1016
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:17,995
Uh, then it was announced
1017
00:58:18,028 --> 00:58:22,667
that Bill was cast
to do Captain Kirk.
1018
00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:25,636
Leonard was cast
to do Mr. Spock.
1019
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:27,905
Jimmy Doohan was cast
to do Scotty
1020
00:58:27,938 --> 00:58:31,108
and all the other male voices,
1021
00:58:31,141 --> 00:58:34,178
and Majel was cast
to do Nurse Chapel
1022
00:58:34,211 --> 00:58:36,313
and all of the female voices.
1023
00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:41,619
But when Leonard learned
of that, he said,
1024
00:58:41,652 --> 00:58:47,224
"What Star Trek is about
is diversity, coming together,
1025
00:58:47,257 --> 00:58:51,028
and working in concert
as a team."
1026
00:58:51,061 --> 00:58:57,602
And he said, "The two people
that most personify
that diversity in our cast"
1027
00:58:57,635 --> 00:59:00,738
"are Nichelle Nichols
and George Takei.
1028
00:59:00,771 --> 00:59:02,940
"And if they're not going
to be a part of this,
1029
00:59:02,973 --> 00:59:06,276
then I'm not interested."
1030
00:59:06,310 --> 00:59:09,914
How many times does that happen
in this business, you know?
1031
00:59:09,947 --> 00:59:12,082
It says a lot about Leonard.
1032
00:59:27,297 --> 00:59:30,935
Tuesday, October 22nd, 1973.
1033
00:59:32,169 --> 00:59:36,807
"Dear Adam, this may turn
out to be a long letter.
1034
00:59:36,841 --> 00:59:39,877
"I'm very glad I could see you
and Julie on Sunday.
1035
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:42,012
"It was good to be with you,
1036
00:59:42,046 --> 00:59:44,248
"but I think it might have
been especially useful
1037
00:59:44,281 --> 00:59:46,617
"in putting
our relationship,
you and me,
1038
00:59:46,651 --> 00:59:48,252
"in a new perspective.
1039
00:59:48,285 --> 00:59:50,688
"This came out of our argument.
1040
00:59:50,721 --> 00:59:55,292
"I discovered you and I were
having a terrible battle
on a verbal battleground.
1041
00:59:55,325 --> 00:59:59,730
"I felt very sad about it,
and all I could say was,
'I'm sorry.'
1042
00:59:59,764 --> 01:00:01,799
"It suddenly occurred to me
that it might be useful
1043
01:00:01,832 --> 01:00:06,403
"if I tell you some things
about my relationship
with my father.
1044
01:00:06,436 --> 01:00:08,172
"I always loved and feared him,
1045
01:00:08,205 --> 01:00:12,209
"but we had very little
real personal contact.
1046
01:00:12,242 --> 01:00:15,379
"He was not a demonstrative man.
1047
01:00:15,412 --> 01:00:18,182
"Most of my day-to-day
interaction was with my mother
1048
01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:22,052
"with my father
in the background
as a sort of weapon.
1049
01:00:22,086 --> 01:00:25,355
Neither of them was ever
very giving of approval."
1050
01:00:25,389 --> 01:00:27,391
You guys were at odds a lot
1051
01:00:27,424 --> 01:00:30,327
about some of the company
you were keeping
1052
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,129
and some of the things
you were doing.
1053
01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:37,101
In the early '70s,
there was a slight lull
in Dad's work career,
1054
01:00:37,134 --> 01:00:41,171
and he was at home
for the first time,
hanging out,
1055
01:00:41,205 --> 01:00:43,841
and not really quite knowing
what to do with himself.
1056
01:00:43,874 --> 01:00:46,243
And it was also during this time
1057
01:00:46,276 --> 01:00:49,714
when he was taking a close look
at me and my life.
1058
01:00:49,747 --> 01:00:52,416
What he saw was, to him,
not that pretty.
1059
01:00:52,449 --> 01:00:55,085
Even though I was doing
very well in school...
1060
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:56,921
I was a senior in high school,
1061
01:00:56,954 --> 01:01:00,157
and by this time, I was like
a full fledged Deadhead.
1062
01:01:11,001 --> 01:01:14,204
I mean... need I say more?
1063
01:01:14,238 --> 01:01:16,273
I mean, you know...
1064
01:01:16,306 --> 01:01:18,809
It was just
not a good time for us.
1065
01:01:21,946 --> 01:01:24,849
* In the middle of the earth
in the land of the shire *
1066
01:01:24,882 --> 01:01:27,718
* Lives a brave little hobbit
whom we all admire *
1067
01:01:27,752 --> 01:01:30,921
* With his long wooden pipe
Fuzzy, woolly toes *
1068
01:01:30,955 --> 01:01:33,891
* He lives in a hobbit hole
And everybody knows him *
1069
01:01:33,924 --> 01:01:35,492
* -Bilbo - Bilbo *
1070
01:01:35,525 --> 01:01:37,127
* Bilbo Baggins
1071
01:01:37,161 --> 01:01:40,097
* He's only three feet tall
1072
01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:41,866
* -Bilbo - Bilbo *
1073
01:01:41,899 --> 01:01:43,167
* Bilbo Baggins
1074
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,970
* The bravest little hobbit
of them all *
1075
01:01:47,304 --> 01:01:49,006
Captain?
1076
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,450
* One day,
Bilbo was asked to go... *
1077
01:01:50,474 --> 01:01:52,009
What in the name of...
1078
01:01:52,042 --> 01:01:53,443
* To the caves below
1079
01:01:53,477 --> 01:01:55,155
* To help some dwarfs
get back their gold *
1080
01:01:55,179 --> 01:01:58,148
Am I... seeing things?
1081
01:01:58,182 --> 01:02:00,017
Not unless I am too.
1082
01:02:00,050 --> 01:02:01,385
* -Bilbo - Bilbo *
1083
01:02:01,418 --> 01:02:02,853
* Bilbo Baggins
1084
01:02:02,887 --> 01:02:05,022
* He's only three feet tall
1085
01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:07,291
What is it, Mr. Spock?
1086
01:02:07,324 --> 01:02:09,093
* Bilbo Baggins
1087
01:02:09,126 --> 01:02:11,395
* The bravest little hobbit
of them all *
1088
01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:30,047
Having had only marginal success
on NBC for three years,
1089
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,183
the show took on
new life in syndication.
1090
01:02:33,217 --> 01:02:37,087
Gradually, the show
and its audience
found each other.
1091
01:02:37,121 --> 01:02:40,557
By the mid '70s,
it was becoming
a media event.
1092
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:43,327
Thousands and thousands
of new devotees
1093
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,995
sat in front of their TV sets
1094
01:02:45,029 --> 01:02:48,999
memorizing each
episode's dialogue
word for word.
1095
01:02:49,033 --> 01:02:54,138
Risk... risk is our business.
1096
01:02:54,171 --> 01:02:56,173
"That's what this
starship is all about.
1097
01:02:56,206 --> 01:03:00,077
"That's why we're aboard her.
1098
01:03:00,110 --> 01:03:05,315
"Dr. McCoy is right to point out
the enormous risk involved
1099
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:08,986
"with interaction between
any two alien species,
1100
01:03:09,019 --> 01:03:11,421
but the potential..."
1101
01:03:14,859 --> 01:03:17,537
There's something that
I became aware of in doing
my research very recently
1102
01:03:17,561 --> 01:03:19,196
called The Slash Fantasy,
1103
01:03:19,229 --> 01:03:22,166
the Kirk-Spock slash fantasy.
1104
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:26,036
And there's a phenomenal
edited video on YouTube.
1105
01:03:26,070 --> 01:03:28,839
And some fan, somebody's
taken a lot of footage
1106
01:03:28,873 --> 01:03:32,276
of Kirk and Spock out of context
from "The Original Series"
1107
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:35,479
to show this homo-erotic
relationship between them,
1108
01:03:35,512 --> 01:03:38,282
and it's pretty damn compelling.
1109
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:53,363
At conventions,
I saw slash zines
1110
01:03:53,397 --> 01:03:56,934
with illustrations done
by very good artists
1111
01:03:56,967 --> 01:04:02,539
and they were much,
much more explicit
between Kirk and Spock.
1112
01:04:02,572 --> 01:04:06,276
It's a matter
of who is looking at it,
1113
01:04:06,310 --> 01:04:07,677
from what perspective,
1114
01:04:07,711 --> 01:04:14,985
and from the perspective
of gay people seeing that
is eye opening.
1115
01:04:15,019 --> 01:04:19,489
They see the gay passion,
the gay attraction,
1116
01:04:19,523 --> 01:04:24,094
and the gay anguish
depicted in those scenes.
1117
01:04:35,672 --> 01:04:38,275
At my first convention in 1972,
1118
01:04:38,308 --> 01:04:40,177
I walked into a hall so crowded
1119
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:42,646
the thunderous
wall of noise
that greeted me
1120
01:04:42,679 --> 01:04:44,949
took me completely by surprise.
1121
01:04:44,982 --> 01:04:49,186
For several seconds,
I literally could not speak
because of the emotion.
1122
01:04:49,219 --> 01:04:53,057
One of the things that I really
respect about your dad was,
1123
01:04:53,090 --> 01:04:55,025
I guess, his love
and affection for the fans
1124
01:04:55,059 --> 01:04:58,362
and how he always
had time and energy.
1125
01:04:58,395 --> 01:05:00,406
You know, going to conventions
and meeting people...
1126
01:05:00,430 --> 01:05:02,332
You know, I'm blown away
1127
01:05:02,366 --> 01:05:08,138
by how much love
there is for your father.
1128
01:05:08,172 --> 01:05:10,074
It was an entirely new concept,
1129
01:05:10,107 --> 01:05:14,378
this gathering of fans
to celebrate "Trek"
for a weekend.
1130
01:05:14,411 --> 01:05:16,146
The organizers crossed
their fingers
1131
01:05:16,180 --> 01:05:19,249
and hoped for 500 attendees.
1132
01:05:19,283 --> 01:05:21,385
They got 3,000.
1133
01:05:22,586 --> 01:05:25,422
We went
to one "Star Trek" convention.
1134
01:05:25,455 --> 01:05:28,625
I think it was in LA,
but I'm not sure.
1135
01:05:28,658 --> 01:05:29,693
I think you're right.
1136
01:05:29,726 --> 01:05:31,962
Yeah, it was a wild place.
1137
01:05:31,996 --> 01:05:33,739
I remember them having
to get us out the back door.
1138
01:05:33,763 --> 01:05:34,731
Right.
1139
01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:38,235
Oh, okay. What was that like?
1140
01:05:38,268 --> 01:05:39,268
Wild.
1141
01:06:02,259 --> 01:06:04,099
I think "Star Trek" fans have
sort of pioneered
1142
01:06:04,128 --> 01:06:06,196
the whole cos-play culture
which now exists
1143
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:07,707
where, you know, you go
to any convention,
1144
01:06:07,731 --> 01:06:10,634
and people are dressed up
as a multitude of things
1145
01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:15,072
from the most obscure
to the most popular.
1146
01:06:15,105 --> 01:06:21,211
I've been blown away going
to now these conventions
for a number of years,
1147
01:06:21,245 --> 01:06:24,748
seeing what people are able,
and willing, and, you know,
1148
01:06:24,781 --> 01:06:27,251
what they commit
to dress up as and do,
1149
01:06:27,284 --> 01:06:29,486
and it's unbelievable.
1150
01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:31,621
We thought they were crazy.
1151
01:06:39,629 --> 01:06:42,099
I'm here.
I'm really here.
I can't believe it.
1152
01:06:42,132 --> 01:06:45,202
My first "Star Trek" convention.
Watch your back. Here we go.
1153
01:06:49,739 --> 01:06:51,708
So much stuff.
1154
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:56,346
Really cool.
1155
01:07:02,586 --> 01:07:04,221
Whoa.
1156
01:07:06,256 --> 01:07:07,391
Wow.
1157
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:12,129
Spock, status report?
1158
01:07:12,162 --> 01:07:15,699
Pollux IV, class M type planet,
oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere.
1159
01:07:15,732 --> 01:07:19,136
Sensors indicate no life forms.
1160
01:07:19,169 --> 01:07:23,340
In all respects,
quite ordinary, Captain.
1161
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:26,510
Bobak, I want you to tell me
a little bit about your history
with "Star Trek",
1162
01:07:26,543 --> 01:07:28,011
how it's affected your life.
1163
01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:30,847
I would say it's probably
one of the biggest reasons
why I work at NASA.
1164
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,383
I mean, honestly,
like, you know, seeing
this "Star Trek,"
1165
01:07:33,417 --> 01:07:35,585
you know, this vision
of the future
1166
01:07:35,619 --> 01:07:39,389
is one of the reasons
why I work there today.
1167
01:07:39,423 --> 01:07:44,128
Seeing a future where people
from all different cultures
and backgrounds
1168
01:07:44,161 --> 01:07:44,994
were working together.
1169
01:07:45,028 --> 01:07:46,468
You know,
the betterment of humanity.
1170
01:07:46,496 --> 01:07:50,367
I think that was a vision
of the future that I wanted
to help create.
1171
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,403
If "Star Trek" was the vision
of the future that I wanted
to create,
1172
01:07:53,437 --> 01:07:57,174
Spock was the internalization
of the kind of person
that I felt like I was.
1173
01:07:57,207 --> 01:07:59,243
You know, as someone
who was from two cultures,
1174
01:07:59,276 --> 01:08:01,711
you know, Iranian father,
an American mother,
1175
01:08:01,745 --> 01:08:05,549
I saw in Spock, you know,
that same conflict, I guess,
1176
01:08:05,582 --> 01:08:07,717
of, "Which one am I? Am I both?"
1177
01:08:07,751 --> 01:08:10,654
Is there
a happy medium
of the two?"
1178
01:08:10,687 --> 01:08:14,524
But also at the same time,
I saw that he was accepted
1179
01:08:14,558 --> 01:08:17,827
by his, you know, colleagues.
1180
01:08:17,861 --> 01:08:20,130
Spock stood for a lot
of different things.
1181
01:08:20,164 --> 01:08:23,533
He stood
for intelligence,
integrity.
1182
01:08:23,567 --> 01:08:26,903
He stood for the idea of
really searching for truth,
1183
01:08:26,936 --> 01:08:29,573
for figuring out
how things really work.
1184
01:08:29,606 --> 01:08:31,875
That is the underpinning
of science, really.
1185
01:08:31,908 --> 01:08:36,913
So I think for a lot of people,
Spock was representative
of science itself,
1186
01:08:36,946 --> 01:08:41,151
of using the human mind
to overcome kind of
the forces of chaos
1187
01:08:41,185 --> 01:08:42,819
and make sense of things.
1188
01:08:42,852 --> 01:08:45,422
That really resonates
with a lot of people here,
I would say.
1189
01:08:45,455 --> 01:08:46,456
It certainly did with me.
1190
01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:49,293
And I knew the minute
I read "Star Trek" books,
1191
01:08:49,326 --> 01:08:52,262
that was the character
I most wanted to emulate
with my career.
1192
01:08:52,296 --> 01:08:55,165
Spock was a scientist.
1193
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:58,368
Now, for me, I knew
I liked science
before "Star Trek."
1194
01:08:58,402 --> 01:09:02,839
So Spock and I resonated,
I think, uh...
1195
01:09:02,872 --> 01:09:08,345
in a way that surely helped,
but didn't initiate my interest.
1196
01:09:08,378 --> 01:09:12,582
But I wonder if the slow
but real appreciation
1197
01:09:12,616 --> 01:09:14,918
for what science is
and why it matters
1198
01:09:14,951 --> 01:09:17,787
that I see manifesting today,
1199
01:09:17,821 --> 01:09:20,224
whether it owes its origin
1200
01:09:20,257 --> 01:09:22,526
to that series,
to that character.
1201
01:09:28,232 --> 01:09:30,300
- Are you a "Star Trek" fan?
- Yes.
1202
01:09:30,334 --> 01:09:32,802
- How long have you been a fan?
- A hundred years.
1203
01:09:32,836 --> 01:09:35,372
A hundred years
"Star Trek" fan, okay.
1204
01:09:37,841 --> 01:09:40,444
You've had your own
connection to "Star Trek."
1205
01:09:40,477 --> 01:09:42,746
You've directed
"Star Trek" episodes.
1206
01:09:42,779 --> 01:09:46,250
But before that, you were
an entertainment attorney.
1207
01:09:46,283 --> 01:09:48,428
What was that all about?
What got you into that
in the first place?
1208
01:09:48,452 --> 01:09:52,289
You know, it's very difficult
when you are the son
of a celebrity
1209
01:09:52,322 --> 01:09:55,659
and somebody who becomes
a pop culture icon,
1210
01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:57,761
to try to create
your own identity,
1211
01:09:57,794 --> 01:09:59,863
to find out
who you are
in essence.
1212
01:09:59,896 --> 01:10:03,300
And so, this was my way of
really creating my own path.
1213
01:10:03,333 --> 01:10:05,835
He was very proud of the fact
that I went to law school,
1214
01:10:05,869 --> 01:10:08,004
and I started practicing law.
1215
01:10:08,037 --> 01:10:10,006
But after seven years
of practicing,
1216
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:12,509
it became very clear to me
that this was not something
1217
01:10:12,542 --> 01:10:14,019
I wanted to do
for the rest of my life.
1218
01:10:14,043 --> 01:10:18,582
I didn't have the passion for it
that I thought was important.
1219
01:10:18,615 --> 01:10:20,484
That was really Dad's
whole philosophy was
1220
01:10:20,517 --> 01:10:22,486
you have to have a passion
for what you do.
1221
01:10:22,519 --> 01:10:25,555
Otherwise, it's just work,
and it's not fulfilling.
1222
01:10:25,589 --> 01:10:30,360
My dad was very sympathetic
about my desire to make
a career change
1223
01:10:30,394 --> 01:10:33,330
and even helped me,
trained me as a director.
1224
01:10:33,363 --> 01:10:35,732
He and I actually
made an episode
1225
01:10:35,765 --> 01:10:37,200
of "The Outer Limits" together.
1226
01:10:37,233 --> 01:10:41,405
We were remaking an episode
that he was originally in
in the early '60s
1227
01:10:41,438 --> 01:10:43,473
in which he had
a supporting role.
1228
01:10:43,507 --> 01:10:46,410
Your design
and your construction
are nothing short of genius,
1229
01:10:46,443 --> 01:10:49,913
but even you must understand
that you're basically a takeoff
1230
01:10:49,946 --> 01:10:54,318
on the thoughts and feelings
that Dr. Link programmed
into you.
1231
01:10:54,351 --> 01:10:58,888
A man suffers, a man bleeds,
a man has a soul.
1232
01:10:58,922 --> 01:11:01,625
I could snap your neck
as if it were a toothpick.
1233
01:11:01,658 --> 01:11:04,794
In that sense, you're right.
I'm not like most men.
1234
01:11:04,828 --> 01:11:07,764
But like most men,
I choose not to.
1235
01:11:07,797 --> 01:11:09,566
Let me go.
1236
01:11:14,804 --> 01:11:17,741
"The Motion Picture"
1237
01:11:17,774 --> 01:11:22,479
rightly begins in London
where my wife and I were
vacationing in 1975.
1238
01:11:22,512 --> 01:11:26,950
We went to see Henry Fonda
who was performing on stage
in "Darrow."
1239
01:11:26,983 --> 01:11:29,953
After the performance,
we joined him and his wife
for dinner.
1240
01:11:29,986 --> 01:11:32,322
At some point during
the conversation, Henry said,
1241
01:11:32,356 --> 01:11:34,066
"You know, Leonard,
I hope you're being paid
1242
01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:36,560
for all those billboards
around town."
1243
01:11:36,593 --> 01:11:39,028
"What billboards, Henry?"
1244
01:11:39,062 --> 01:11:43,467
"Do you mean to tell me
you don't know about
all those Heineken billboards?"
1245
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:46,870
Now, I'd seen my Spock image
used commercially before,
1246
01:11:46,903 --> 01:11:49,038
such as on a box of
Kellogg's Corn Flakes.
1247
01:11:49,072 --> 01:11:53,109
I'd been amused by it,
finding it campy
and even flattering.
1248
01:11:53,142 --> 01:11:55,779
Once "Star Trek" was canceled,
1249
01:11:55,812 --> 01:12:01,017
Paramount had no legal right
to license my likeness
from that time on.
1250
01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:03,687
So not only had Paramount
been marketing me as Spock
1251
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,756
for almost 10 years
without the right to do so,
1252
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:11,595
for the last five of those 10,
they hadn't sent me
any of the proceeds.
1253
01:12:11,628 --> 01:12:14,798
I wound up having
to file a lawsuit.
1254
01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:16,933
They wanted to make this movie.
1255
01:12:16,966 --> 01:12:19,002
And Bob Weiss had it
in his contract
1256
01:12:19,035 --> 01:12:21,381
that they would make
their best efforts to get me
in the movie.
1257
01:12:21,405 --> 01:12:23,106
And my agent would
call me and say,
1258
01:12:23,139 --> 01:12:24,517
"They wanna talk to you
about the 'Star Trek' movie."
And I would say...
1259
01:12:24,541 --> 01:12:27,944
"When we settle the lawsuit,
I'll talk about acting
in their movie,"
1260
01:12:27,977 --> 01:12:30,747
because I thought
that's my leverage.
1261
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:32,649
So that went on for some time.
1262
01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:36,886
And... finally, I got a call
1263
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,688
from a guy
who introduced
himself to me.
1264
01:12:38,722 --> 01:12:40,624
He said, "My name
is Jeff Katzenberg",
1265
01:12:40,657 --> 01:12:42,726
and I've just
gone to work
for Paramount."
1266
01:12:42,759 --> 01:12:47,163
And I was acting in "Equus"
on Broadway at the time
in New York.
1267
01:12:47,196 --> 01:12:50,099
So there goes little Jeffrey
off trotting to New York...
1268
01:12:50,133 --> 01:12:53,970
to say to him,
"You've got to put
the ears back on."
1269
01:12:54,003 --> 01:12:55,939
So I went, and I saw the show,
1270
01:12:55,972 --> 01:12:58,107
and after the show,
we went to Joe Allen's.
1271
01:12:58,141 --> 01:13:02,646
I said to him, "We're going
to make the movie."
1272
01:13:02,679 --> 01:13:04,781
"Those ears are going on.
1273
01:13:04,814 --> 01:13:08,952
"They're either going on you,
or they're actually going
to go on somebody else,
1274
01:13:08,985 --> 01:13:11,020
"but they are going to go on.
1275
01:13:11,054 --> 01:13:16,059
And how badly will you feel
when you didn't put them on?"
1276
01:13:16,092 --> 01:13:20,730
The big leverage that
he always had beginning
with these movies
1277
01:13:20,764 --> 01:13:24,934
was that Paramount Pictures
needed him,
1278
01:13:24,968 --> 01:13:27,937
and they couldn't make
a "Star Trek" movie
without him.
1279
01:13:27,971 --> 01:13:29,473
Finally, my lawyer called.
1280
01:13:29,506 --> 01:13:34,210
"Look, Paramount is actually
showing some willingness
to reach an agreement."
1281
01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:37,213
"Will you read the script
if they settle the lawsuit?"
1282
01:13:37,246 --> 01:13:38,948
"Yes."
1283
01:13:38,982 --> 01:13:41,918
Four days later,
on a Friday evening,
the lawsuit settled.
1284
01:13:41,951 --> 01:13:44,688
My lawyer came
to my house
with a check.
1285
01:13:44,721 --> 01:13:47,123
An hour later,
the script arrived.
1286
01:13:47,156 --> 01:13:50,193
I sat down
and read it through
that night.
1287
01:13:50,226 --> 01:13:51,995
Leonard Nimoy was
the last person
1288
01:13:52,028 --> 01:13:56,500
to join the movie cast
and was asked why
he was a hold out.
1289
01:13:56,533 --> 01:13:58,077
I don't think it was
a question of hold out.
1290
01:13:58,101 --> 01:14:02,105
We've had a long and...
complicated relationship,
1291
01:14:02,138 --> 01:14:04,974
I mean, Paramount and myself,
for the last couple of years.
1292
01:14:05,008 --> 01:14:06,843
And probably the thing
that took the most time
1293
01:14:06,876 --> 01:14:09,045
is the fact that
the mail service
1294
01:14:09,078 --> 01:14:11,815
between here and Vulcan
is still pretty slow.
1295
01:14:19,789 --> 01:14:21,457
Spock.
1296
01:14:23,593 --> 01:14:27,631
Making that first movie was
very, very dis-spiriting,
1297
01:14:27,664 --> 01:14:29,132
very depressing.
1298
01:14:29,165 --> 01:14:31,167
We had a bad script, bad script.
1299
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,136
It just never worked.
It was always a struggle
1300
01:14:33,169 --> 01:14:37,040
to try to figure out
how to bring some life
to this... project.
1301
01:14:38,174 --> 01:14:43,747
And, um, we did our best,
but I never...
1302
01:14:43,780 --> 01:14:48,752
The pendulum swung completely
when that first movie came along
1303
01:14:48,785 --> 01:14:52,622
from being an actor
and character-oriented
"Star Trek"
1304
01:14:52,656 --> 01:14:54,691
to an effects-oriented
"Star Trek."
1305
01:14:54,724 --> 01:14:56,802
And the feeling was, "Oh, we
didn't have the money before."
1306
01:14:56,826 --> 01:14:59,071
Now we've got the money,
we've got to give them
a big effects movie."
1307
01:14:59,095 --> 01:15:01,707
So it was all about the ship,
the ship, and this effect,
and that effect,
1308
01:15:01,731 --> 01:15:03,091
and we're going
through this thing.
1309
01:15:06,636 --> 01:15:08,237
Now, we're going
through that thing.
1310
01:15:10,006 --> 01:15:12,776
Nothing about the characters.
1311
01:15:12,809 --> 01:15:16,913
So it was frustrating,
and depressing,
and, uh, very painful.
1312
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,629
Khan.
1313
01:15:33,663 --> 01:15:36,232
Khan!
1314
01:15:36,265 --> 01:15:41,037
In "Star Trek II," the lure that
Harve Bennett gave him was,
1315
01:15:41,070 --> 01:15:44,307
"You're going to have
the greatest death scene
of all time."
1316
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:46,042
Spock, no!
1317
01:15:54,651 --> 01:15:56,720
I thought that was
the final "Star Trek" movie,
1318
01:15:56,753 --> 01:15:58,698
and when they said to me,
"How about a death scene?"
1319
01:15:58,722 --> 01:16:00,600
I thought, "Why not?
If this is the end
of 'Star Trek, '"
1320
01:16:00,624 --> 01:16:02,668
"let's get out
in a blaze of glory
saving the Enterprise.
1321
01:16:02,692 --> 01:16:05,629
You know, be a hero and die."
1322
01:16:09,699 --> 01:16:11,768
Live long...
1323
01:16:12,636 --> 01:16:13,903
and prosper.
1324
01:16:32,421 --> 01:16:35,759
Sooner than I realized,
it was over.
1325
01:16:35,792 --> 01:16:37,627
No.
1326
01:16:37,661 --> 01:16:41,130
I stripped off the ears,
the makeup, the uniform,
1327
01:16:41,164 --> 01:16:43,633
and so Spock
gradually disappeared,
1328
01:16:43,667 --> 01:16:46,770
leaving behind
only Leonard Nimoy.
1329
01:16:48,705 --> 01:16:51,641
Never again the raised eyebrow.
1330
01:16:51,675 --> 01:16:55,779
Never again
the delicious teasing
of the irascible doctor
1331
01:16:55,812 --> 01:17:00,049
or the offering of logic
to my impetuous friend
and captain.
1332
01:17:00,083 --> 01:17:03,319
Never again the mind meld,
the neck pinch,
1333
01:17:03,352 --> 01:17:05,822
or the Vulcan salute
and blessing,
1334
01:17:05,855 --> 01:17:08,024
live long and prosper.
1335
01:17:08,057 --> 01:17:13,162
I asked myself,
"What have I done?"
1336
01:17:13,196 --> 01:17:15,875
Well, of course, they put in
a little footage at the end
of the movie
1337
01:17:15,899 --> 01:17:19,135
that suggested that
this might not be
the end of Spock.
1338
01:17:19,168 --> 01:17:22,672
I'm sorry, Doctor.
I have no time
to discuss this logically.
1339
01:17:27,010 --> 01:17:28,411
Remember.
1340
01:17:28,444 --> 01:17:29,746
And they came to me,
sure enough,
1341
01:17:29,779 --> 01:17:31,681
after the picture opened
and did business,
1342
01:17:31,715 --> 01:17:34,017
and they called me
in for a meeting.
1343
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:35,928
They said, "We'd like to know
if you'd like to be involved
in another 'Star Trek' movie?"
1344
01:17:35,952 --> 01:17:37,721
And I said,
"Yes, I'd like to direct it."
1345
01:17:37,754 --> 01:17:42,391
I remember distinctly one night
I got a phone call from him.
1346
01:17:42,425 --> 01:17:45,061
And he said
he'd been on the phone
with Michael Eisner,
1347
01:17:45,094 --> 01:17:48,431
and that Michael Eisner
was trying to talk him
out of directing,
1348
01:17:48,464 --> 01:17:50,867
making his directing debut
1349
01:17:50,900 --> 01:17:54,704
directing himself
in a feature film
and so forth.
1350
01:17:54,738 --> 01:17:59,208
And he was asking me...
He was soliciting my advice.
1351
01:17:59,242 --> 01:18:02,178
I said, "Well,
it's really very simple."
1352
01:18:02,211 --> 01:18:07,817
Are you prepared
to let this ship
sail without you?"
1353
01:18:07,851 --> 01:18:09,285
And he said, "Oh, absolutely."
1354
01:18:09,318 --> 01:18:12,221
I said, "Then sit tight
You're going to direct
the movie."
1355
01:18:12,255 --> 01:18:15,859
My Lord, the ship appears
to be deserted.
1356
01:18:15,892 --> 01:18:18,361
How can that be? They're hiding.
1357
01:18:18,394 --> 01:18:22,231
Yes, sir, but the bridge
seems to be run
by a computer.
1358
01:18:22,265 --> 01:18:23,733
It is the only thing speaking.
1359
01:18:23,767 --> 01:18:25,168
Speaking?
1360
01:18:26,269 --> 01:18:27,871
Let me hear.
1361
01:18:27,904 --> 01:18:33,509
Nine, eight, seven, six, five...
1362
01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:35,344
Get out!
1363
01:18:35,378 --> 01:18:36,913
Get out of there!
1364
01:18:36,946 --> 01:18:39,749
I got a call
before the movie opened
from Jeff Katzenberg,
1365
01:18:39,783 --> 01:18:42,285
who was head of production
at Paramount at the time,
1366
01:18:42,318 --> 01:18:44,187
and he said, "We want you
to make another one."
1367
01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:47,090
And I said, "You know,
this one that I just finished,
'Star Trek III',"
1368
01:18:47,123 --> 01:18:49,458
I said, "They had
a pretty tight
choke chain on me",
1369
01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:50,994
"controlling what I was doing,
1370
01:18:51,027 --> 01:18:52,371
"and making me answer
for everything,
1371
01:18:52,395 --> 01:18:55,431
and explain
everything that I was doing,
and justify everything."
1372
01:18:55,464 --> 01:18:57,801
And he said...
I'll never forget.
He was wonderful.
1373
01:18:57,834 --> 01:18:59,468
He said,
"The training wheels are off.
1374
01:18:59,502 --> 01:19:02,939
We want you to make
your 'Star Trek' movie."
1375
01:19:02,972 --> 01:19:05,775
Well, if it isn't Robin Hood
and Friar Tuck.
1376
01:19:06,976 --> 01:19:08,477
Where are you fellas heading?
1377
01:19:09,913 --> 01:19:12,448
Back to San Francisco.
1378
01:19:12,481 --> 01:19:15,952
Came all of the way down here
just to jump in and swim
with the kiddies, huh?
1379
01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:19,823
Very little point
in my trying to explain.
1380
01:19:19,856 --> 01:19:22,458
Well, yeah, I'll buy that.
What about him?
1381
01:19:22,491 --> 01:19:24,794
Him? He's harmless.
1382
01:19:24,828 --> 01:19:28,097
Back in the '60s, he was part
of the free speech movement
at Berkeley.
1383
01:19:29,532 --> 01:19:32,068
I think he did
a little too much LDS.
1384
01:19:32,101 --> 01:19:35,104
- LDS?
- Mm-hmm.
1385
01:19:35,138 --> 01:19:36,940
Come on. Why don't you
let me give you a lift?
1386
01:19:36,973 --> 01:19:40,343
We had our first read-through
at your house on Kashmir.
1387
01:19:40,376 --> 01:19:44,380
And there was...
He had the whales' song
playing for us.
1388
01:19:44,413 --> 01:19:47,550
And I knew then
how much this project
meant to him
1389
01:19:47,583 --> 01:19:49,185
on a personal level.
1390
01:19:49,218 --> 01:19:51,220
He was trying
to get us to get it,
1391
01:19:51,254 --> 01:19:54,357
which to me, transcends doing
another "Star Trek" film.
1392
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:58,227
Although, in fact,
it actually is what "Star Trek"
has always been about,
1393
01:19:58,261 --> 01:20:01,430
which is meaningful issues
about how to live.
1394
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,568
* Just where is our future?
The things we've done and said *
1395
01:20:05,601 --> 01:20:08,604
* Let's just push the button
We'd be better off dead *
1396
01:20:08,637 --> 01:20:10,506
* 'Cause I hate you
1397
01:20:10,539 --> 01:20:12,075
Excuse me.
1398
01:20:12,108 --> 01:20:14,510
* And I berate you
1399
01:20:14,543 --> 01:20:16,179
Excuse me.
1400
01:20:16,212 --> 01:20:18,514
Would you mind
stopping that noise?
1401
01:20:23,052 --> 01:20:25,154
* The only choice we're given
is how many megatons *
1402
01:20:25,188 --> 01:20:26,489
Excuse me.
1403
01:20:26,522 --> 01:20:29,058
Would you mind stopping
that damn noise?
1404
01:20:29,092 --> 01:20:31,394
* And I say screw you
1405
01:20:31,427 --> 01:20:35,298
* And I hope you're blue too
1406
01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:46,275
"Star Trek IV" was
one of the highlights
of Dad's career,
1407
01:20:46,309 --> 01:20:48,344
really part
of the pinnacle
of his career,
1408
01:20:48,377 --> 01:20:51,547
because immediately after that
came "Three Men and a Baby."
1409
01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:53,349
The making
of "Three Men and a Baby"
1410
01:20:53,382 --> 01:20:56,585
was a magical time
where everything
came together beautifully.
1411
01:20:56,619 --> 01:20:59,322
I felt enormously fortunate
to be involved with the project.
1412
01:20:59,355 --> 01:21:00,323
Nice job, Pete.
1413
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:03,326
You know, the "LA Times"
came out with an article
1414
01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:05,294
when that movie came out,
and it was a hit
1415
01:21:05,328 --> 01:21:08,064
the winter season,
the holiday season of '87.
1416
01:21:08,097 --> 01:21:12,168
"LA Times" talked
about the fact that the hit
from the previous holiday season
1417
01:21:12,201 --> 01:21:15,371
was a feature film entitled
"Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home,"
1418
01:21:15,404 --> 01:21:18,574
and that both of those films
happened to be directed
by the same guy.
1419
01:21:19,542 --> 01:21:20,709
Then came "The Good Mother",
1420
01:21:20,743 --> 01:21:23,913
and my relationship
with my father hit
an all-time low.
1421
01:21:23,947 --> 01:21:25,381
And you've left her
alone with him?
1422
01:21:25,414 --> 01:21:28,060
Well, of course I have.
She likes him.
They have fun together, Brian.
1423
01:21:28,084 --> 01:21:29,618
Well, ask him about
the fun, Anna.
1424
01:21:29,652 --> 01:21:31,663
Well, what are you suggesting,
Brian, that he did something
wrong with Molly?
1425
01:21:31,687 --> 01:21:33,156
- He did, Anna.
- Well, he didn't.
1426
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:35,258
She told me.
She's told the shrink.
1427
01:21:35,291 --> 01:21:37,036
- He did it, Anna!
- No, Brian, he didn't do it!
1428
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:38,461
You ask him! And you let him!
1429
01:21:38,494 --> 01:21:41,197
By the time filming
of "The Good Mother" wrapped,
1430
01:21:41,230 --> 01:21:44,367
I felt the same way I had
at the end of shooting
"Three Men and a Baby."
1431
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,571
I thought, "Boy, this could be
even more of a rocket ride
than 'Three Men.'"
1432
01:21:48,604 --> 01:21:52,441
And it was a rocket ride,
all right... straight down.
1433
01:21:52,475 --> 01:21:54,277
Box office was disappointing,
1434
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:58,214
and the film soon disappeared
from the theaters.
1435
01:21:58,247 --> 01:22:02,318
I started drinking
regularly, ritually,
1436
01:22:02,351 --> 01:22:05,554
during probably the second year
or third year of our series.
1437
01:22:05,588 --> 01:22:09,225
The ritual became so ingrained
and so important to me,
1438
01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:13,462
because I looked forward
to that release at the end
of the pressure of the day
1439
01:22:13,496 --> 01:22:18,001
with the dialogue, and the pace,
and get 15 pages or 12 pages
done today,
1440
01:22:18,034 --> 01:22:19,368
and all of that sort of thing.
1441
01:22:19,402 --> 01:22:22,305
And the minute
we finished the last shot,
I would have a drink.
1442
01:22:22,338 --> 01:22:24,240
And then it became
a series of drinks.
1443
01:22:24,273 --> 01:22:26,651
And little by little,
before I knew it,
I was drinking more and more
1444
01:22:26,675 --> 01:22:28,677
because my addictive
personality was taking over.
1445
01:22:28,711 --> 01:22:32,581
It was the martinis,
you know, getting a drink
when he'd come home,
1446
01:22:32,615 --> 01:22:34,483
having a couple drinks.
1447
01:22:34,517 --> 01:22:38,654
And, uh... you know,
while it made him
more relaxed,
1448
01:22:38,687 --> 01:22:41,357
he also shut down.
1449
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:45,995
The habit grew to the power
that it did in my later years
1450
01:22:46,029 --> 01:22:49,398
because I didn't have
that thought, "I'm young.
I still have a distance to go."
1451
01:22:49,432 --> 01:22:53,236
Which is a devilish part
of the disease.
1452
01:22:53,269 --> 01:22:57,106
The 1980's were
a very difficult time
for my dad.
1453
01:22:57,140 --> 01:23:00,476
His parents had recently died,
my grandparents,
1454
01:23:00,509 --> 01:23:03,046
within six months of each other.
1455
01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:04,656
My dad was going through
a very complicated
1456
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,515
and difficult divorce
from my mother.
1457
01:23:06,549 --> 01:23:08,617
They had been married
for 32 years.
1458
01:23:08,651 --> 01:23:09,918
It was also about this time
1459
01:23:09,952 --> 01:23:12,688
that there was
a lot of head-banging
between the two of us.
1460
01:23:12,721 --> 01:23:15,324
There were a lot of old issues
that were coming up,
1461
01:23:15,358 --> 01:23:18,661
and there were
a number of fights
between us.
1462
01:23:18,694 --> 01:23:22,365
He was also drinking.
A lot of this was fueled
by alcohol.
1463
01:23:22,398 --> 01:23:25,034
And quite frankly,
I was still getting high
at the time,
1464
01:23:25,068 --> 01:23:28,171
and that was certainly not
helping matters between us.
1465
01:23:29,838 --> 01:23:32,275
"There's one major area
that I should touch on"
1466
01:23:32,308 --> 01:23:34,277
"before coming to a conclusion,"
1467
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:36,445
"competition with my father."
1468
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,216
"This was easy for me
in strangely painful way."
1469
01:23:40,249 --> 01:23:43,819
"My father never earned
more than a $150 a week."
1470
01:23:43,852 --> 01:23:47,656
"I realize that competition
with me is very tough."
1471
01:23:47,690 --> 01:23:49,758
"I am very loud and verbal."
1472
01:23:49,792 --> 01:23:54,197
"Also I have been very lucky,
made good money,
and I'm famous."
1473
01:23:55,398 --> 01:23:56,799
"That's a lot tougher
to deal with"
1474
01:23:56,832 --> 01:24:00,236
"than me competing
against 150-dollar
a week barber."
1475
01:24:02,371 --> 01:24:06,109
A lot of the problems
that I had with my dad
were not that dissimilar
1476
01:24:06,142 --> 01:24:08,511
from problems
that other fathers
and sons experience.
1477
01:24:10,646 --> 01:24:12,815
The difference is that
my dad was adored
1478
01:24:12,848 --> 01:24:15,818
by millions of fans
all over the world.
1479
01:24:15,851 --> 01:24:21,390
And oftentimes, I felt like
I was competing with them
for his love and attention.
1480
01:24:21,424 --> 01:24:26,462
And sometimes, I honestly felt
like I was losing the battle.
1481
01:24:26,495 --> 01:24:30,666
After we would have
one of these incredible
knock-down, drag-out fights,
1482
01:24:30,699 --> 01:24:36,605
I would go out into the world
and be confronted by images
of Spock everywhere.
1483
01:24:38,341 --> 01:24:41,244
* I want to know
what you're feeling *
1484
01:24:41,277 --> 01:24:44,647
* Tell me what's on your mind
1485
01:24:52,688 --> 01:24:53,688
Pure energy.
1486
01:24:56,659 --> 01:24:58,361
Pure energy.
1487
01:25:04,767 --> 01:25:08,604
In 1989,
Dad and Susan
got married,
1488
01:25:08,637 --> 01:25:11,207
and his domestic life
started to get much better.
1489
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,742
She was a real
stabilizing force for him.
1490
01:25:13,776 --> 01:25:17,146
And he was very happy with her,
and they were very devoted
to each other.
1491
01:25:17,180 --> 01:25:20,683
It was at this period of time,
he told me later on,
1492
01:25:20,716 --> 01:25:23,852
that he was
really happy
with his life,
1493
01:25:23,886 --> 01:25:28,224
and yet didn't really understand
why he was still drinking.
1494
01:25:28,257 --> 01:25:32,461
And it was at that point
that he started to really,
seriously look
1495
01:25:32,495 --> 01:25:34,830
at what was happening
with his life.
1496
01:25:34,863 --> 01:25:38,501
And he made his decision
to go into his own recovery.
1497
01:26:06,562 --> 01:26:09,832
My first images
were photographed
with this camera
1498
01:26:09,865 --> 01:26:11,567
and enlarged with this camera
1499
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,637
and with about 20 cents
worth of Kodak supplies.
1500
01:26:14,670 --> 01:26:18,941
And I just became fascinated
with the ability
1501
01:26:18,974 --> 01:26:21,610
to create an image,
something that you could hold,
1502
01:26:21,644 --> 01:26:24,280
an object you could
hold in your hand,
and there it is.
1503
01:26:24,313 --> 01:26:25,514
Something I shot this morning,
1504
01:26:25,548 --> 01:26:26,925
and tonight, I have
the picture in my hand.
1505
01:26:26,949 --> 01:26:30,219
I could hang it on my wall,
or give it to my family,
or whatever.
1506
01:26:30,253 --> 01:26:31,253
That was the beginning.
1507
01:26:56,044 --> 01:26:59,248
Although Dad
started taking pictures
at an early age,
1508
01:26:59,282 --> 01:27:02,251
he continued this hobby
throughout his life.
1509
01:27:02,285 --> 01:27:04,653
He would often take portraits
of me and Julie,
1510
01:27:04,687 --> 01:27:07,990
and some of those ended up
in the poetry books
he published.
1511
01:27:52,034 --> 01:27:53,836
James T. Kirk.
1512
01:27:53,869 --> 01:27:56,539
Along came J.J. Abrams
1513
01:27:56,572 --> 01:27:58,574
who found a way to crack it open
1514
01:27:58,607 --> 01:28:00,809
to an entirely new
and different audience.
1515
01:28:06,615 --> 01:28:09,752
Who the hell am I
to tell Leonard Nimoy
what Spock should do?
1516
01:28:09,785 --> 01:28:12,054
But it's my job,
so I'm doing the best I can.
1517
01:28:12,087 --> 01:28:14,457
But I was amazed
at how open he was.
1518
01:28:14,490 --> 01:28:18,627
Leonard was okay with the idea
of this new incarnation
of "Star Trek."
1519
01:28:18,661 --> 01:28:24,500
It set a tone on the set
even beyond the days
that Leonard was working.
1520
01:28:24,533 --> 01:28:27,035
You didn't have to know
all about "Star Trek."
1521
01:28:27,069 --> 01:28:28,413
You could come
and enjoy this movie
1522
01:28:28,437 --> 01:28:31,374
as a person who had
never seen anything
of "Star Trek" before.
1523
01:28:31,407 --> 01:28:32,808
- Fascinating.
- What?
1524
01:28:32,841 --> 01:28:34,419
Okay, I'm sure
you're just doing your job,
1525
01:28:34,443 --> 01:28:36,345
but could you not come
a wee bit sooner?
1526
01:28:36,379 --> 01:28:39,014
Six months I've been here
living off Star Fleet
protein nibs
1527
01:28:39,047 --> 01:28:40,883
and the promise of a good meal.
1528
01:28:40,916 --> 01:28:42,394
Myself, Leonard, and Chris
shared a trailer
1529
01:28:42,418 --> 01:28:46,054
when we were shooting the stuff
when they discover Scotty
on the planet.
1530
01:28:46,088 --> 01:28:48,824
And it was quite far
from the circus,
from the unit base,
1531
01:28:48,857 --> 01:28:52,428
so we had a trailer that
we just sat in, and we shared.
1532
01:28:52,461 --> 01:28:53,838
And we were shooting
really late at night.
1533
01:28:53,862 --> 01:28:55,874
It was, like, you know, 2:00
or 3:00 in the morning.
1534
01:28:55,898 --> 01:28:58,000
And Chris, Leonard, and I
were just sat in this...
1535
01:28:58,033 --> 01:29:01,003
And Leonard was in his
full Spock regalia, ears.
1536
01:29:01,036 --> 01:29:03,539
We had the big sort of like
winter coat on and stuff,
1537
01:29:03,572 --> 01:29:06,542
and he sat upright,
and he went to sleep.
1538
01:29:06,575 --> 01:29:11,013
And he, uh, was just sat there
just quietly snoring.
1539
01:29:11,046 --> 01:29:14,116
And Chris and I were just
looking at each other like,
1540
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:16,619
"That's Spock, and he snores."
1541
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,755
We were shooting a scene,
and Leonard was walking,
1542
01:29:19,788 --> 01:29:26,695
and he fell... and he landed,
and he cut and broke his nose.
1543
01:29:26,729 --> 01:29:28,531
Um...
1544
01:29:28,564 --> 01:29:32,768
So the feeling that,
you know, you have
1545
01:29:32,801 --> 01:29:37,072
when someone that you care
about as much as I did,
of course, gets hurt,
1546
01:29:37,105 --> 01:29:39,074
it's a horrible feeling.
1547
01:29:39,107 --> 01:29:41,577
When you've wounded Spock, uh...
1548
01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:44,413
you just wanna...
you know, kill yourself.
1549
01:29:44,447 --> 01:29:46,649
It's just... It was...
It was horrible.
1550
01:29:46,682 --> 01:29:49,652
And we're trying to figure
out what we're gonna do
for the rest of the day,
1551
01:29:49,685 --> 01:29:52,521
and I hear, like,
"Oh, no, no, no, no,
we're going to keep going."
1552
01:29:52,555 --> 01:29:53,832
And it was Leonard who was like,
1553
01:29:53,856 --> 01:29:55,357
"We're just gonna
keep shooting."
1554
01:29:55,390 --> 01:30:00,128
And I'm thinking,
"Is he out of his fucking mind?
He just broke his nose."
1555
01:30:00,162 --> 01:30:02,064
And Leonard was like,
"Let's keep going."
1556
01:30:02,097 --> 01:30:04,967
And we finished,
and no one ever
heard this story publicly
1557
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,002
until you and I had
this conversation.
1558
01:30:10,939 --> 01:30:12,741
Speak your mind, Spock.
1559
01:30:15,744 --> 01:30:17,713
That would be unwise.
1560
01:30:17,746 --> 01:30:21,049
Mine is a very different
Spock than your dad's.
1561
01:30:21,083 --> 01:30:25,954
I was really fortunate
to be able to explore
even more than your dad,
1562
01:30:25,988 --> 01:30:28,457
because as entertainment
evolved,
1563
01:30:28,491 --> 01:30:30,626
as narration evolved,
as story-telling evolved
1564
01:30:30,659 --> 01:30:32,094
over the intervening decades
1565
01:30:32,127 --> 01:30:35,664
between when
he created the role
and when I assumed it,
1566
01:30:35,698 --> 01:30:39,702
I think that it opened up
a little bit more space
1567
01:30:39,735 --> 01:30:42,505
for us to get in
and play with that.
1568
01:30:45,774 --> 01:30:47,910
Mr. Spock.
1569
01:30:47,943 --> 01:30:52,481
Sharing that with him,
and discussing it,
and exploring it
1570
01:30:52,515 --> 01:30:55,618
through the context
of our personal relationship,
1571
01:30:55,651 --> 01:30:58,854
that was probably
one of the most creatively
satisfying aspects
1572
01:30:58,887 --> 01:31:02,858
of assuming a role
that had already been
established so firmly
1573
01:31:02,891 --> 01:31:04,860
and created so boldly.
1574
01:31:04,893 --> 01:31:06,194
No pun intended.
1575
01:31:06,228 --> 01:31:11,734
Should I choose to
complete the Vulcan
discipline of Kolinahr
1576
01:31:11,767 --> 01:31:13,969
and purge all emotion...
1577
01:31:15,838 --> 01:31:19,174
I trust you will not feel
it reflects judgment upon you.
1578
01:31:21,810 --> 01:31:25,781
Oh, Spock...
1579
01:31:25,814 --> 01:31:29,217
as always, whatever
you choose to be...
1580
01:31:30,318 --> 01:31:33,055
you will have a proud mother.
1581
01:31:33,088 --> 01:31:37,125
Every time he goes
into a negative place,
1582
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:39,294
he starts being a little
bit of a pessimist,
1583
01:31:39,327 --> 01:31:45,601
um, he allows Uhura and Kirk
to snap him out of it.
1584
01:31:45,634 --> 01:31:47,703
And I really like that.
1585
01:31:47,736 --> 01:31:51,674
He's just... He's a man to me.
Like, Spock is really a man.
1586
01:31:51,707 --> 01:31:53,676
Even though
he's half alien, it's like...
1587
01:31:53,709 --> 01:31:56,912
He could have been...
I don't know, half anything,
1588
01:31:56,945 --> 01:32:00,983
but he's still
very much... natural.
1589
01:32:07,289 --> 01:32:10,225
What do you need? Tell me.
1590
01:32:10,258 --> 01:32:12,127
Tell me.
1591
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,097
I thought that was
a perfect example
1592
01:32:15,130 --> 01:32:17,332
of the evolution
of the character,
1593
01:32:17,365 --> 01:32:19,902
of painting him
in a different light
1594
01:32:19,935 --> 01:32:24,607
and seeing that there is
this capacity for feeling,
1595
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,309
for emotion,
for intimacy,
for connection.
1596
01:32:27,342 --> 01:32:29,077
It's still regulated.
1597
01:32:29,111 --> 01:32:32,247
It's still within
the boundaries
or the parameters
1598
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,216
of what it means to be Vulcan.
1599
01:32:38,687 --> 01:32:40,088
Father.
1600
01:32:48,396 --> 01:32:50,766
I am not our father.
1601
01:32:57,940 --> 01:33:00,643
There are so few Vulcans left,
1602
01:33:00,676 --> 01:33:03,111
we cannot afford
to ignore each other.
1603
01:33:03,145 --> 01:33:06,915
Spock, in this case,
do yourself a favor.
1604
01:33:08,316 --> 01:33:11,987
Put aside logic.
Do what feels right.
1605
01:33:17,726 --> 01:33:21,029
Since my customary farewell
would appear oddly self-serving,
1606
01:33:21,063 --> 01:33:24,967
I shall simply say... good luck.
1607
01:33:27,836 --> 01:33:29,037
Dad was really happy
1608
01:33:29,071 --> 01:33:31,206
to be in the new incarnation
of "Star Trek."
1609
01:33:31,239 --> 01:33:34,009
It was a high point for him.
1610
01:33:34,042 --> 01:33:36,979
But much like
Spock's problems
with his father,
1611
01:33:37,012 --> 01:33:39,915
my relationship with my father
was still very troubled.
1612
01:33:39,948 --> 01:33:42,317
My first officer,
Commander Spock.
1613
01:33:42,350 --> 01:33:44,086
Vulcan honors us
with your presence.
1614
01:33:44,119 --> 01:33:45,821
We come to serve.
1615
01:33:48,957 --> 01:33:50,859
Your service honors us, Captain.
1616
01:33:50,893 --> 01:33:52,194
Thank you.
1617
01:33:55,363 --> 01:33:59,802
Around 2006, we were just
about completely estranged
from one another.
1618
01:33:59,835 --> 01:34:02,404
Old issues were flaring up.
1619
01:34:02,437 --> 01:34:05,107
And, um, I was
at a low point
in my life.
1620
01:34:05,140 --> 01:34:07,142
I had just ended
an 18-year marriage,
1621
01:34:07,175 --> 01:34:11,446
and I had decided to go
into my own 12-step recovery.
1622
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,182
And it was
a real difficult time
for the two of us.
1623
01:34:14,216 --> 01:34:15,951
And basically,
for three or four years,
1624
01:34:15,984 --> 01:34:18,053
we had very, very
little communication.
1625
01:34:18,086 --> 01:34:22,825
By around 2008,
we started to talk again,
and reconnect again,
1626
01:34:22,858 --> 01:34:26,829
and really came back together
in our relationship
with each other.
1627
01:34:30,232 --> 01:34:34,737
I had met Martha
in a doctor's office,
and she was...
1628
01:34:34,770 --> 01:34:36,071
Uh, she was my age,
1629
01:34:36,104 --> 01:34:41,376
and she was very sweet,
fun, attractive woman,
1630
01:34:41,409 --> 01:34:43,746
and I started dating
her regularly.
1631
01:34:43,779 --> 01:34:46,081
And I mean, I was
so much happier having Martha
1632
01:34:46,114 --> 01:34:48,283
that I married her.
1633
01:34:51,053 --> 01:34:53,288
Four and a half months
after we were married,
1634
01:34:53,321 --> 01:34:56,158
Martha was diagnosed
with terminal cancer.
1635
01:35:08,170 --> 01:35:09,404
The weird thing was for me,
1636
01:35:09,437 --> 01:35:12,307
and I was really
kind of conscious of it
now in retrospect,
1637
01:35:12,340 --> 01:35:17,780
was that in 2004,
when I left my 18-year marriage,
1638
01:35:17,813 --> 01:35:20,248
and moved out of my house,
and left my kids behind
for one.
1639
01:35:20,282 --> 01:35:22,317
I mean, it was
a real low point in my life.
1640
01:35:22,350 --> 01:35:25,921
I didn't even call my dad.
He wasn't even on the list,
because of our period of,
1641
01:35:25,954 --> 01:35:28,356
you know, beginning of
the estrangement period.
1642
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:32,427
But when I was able to
pull myself back together,
1643
01:35:32,460 --> 01:35:34,462
after I got that phone call
from the doctor,
1644
01:35:34,496 --> 01:35:37,032
the first phone call I made...
1645
01:35:37,065 --> 01:35:38,500
Was to your dad.
1646
01:35:41,269 --> 01:35:44,139
I just... It still.
It just overwhelms me now
1647
01:35:44,172 --> 01:35:47,242
that we could get to that point
where he could be my go-to guy.
1648
01:35:47,275 --> 01:35:48,310
Yeah.
1649
01:35:48,343 --> 01:35:49,988
And in the next 18 months
of my life with Martha,
1650
01:35:50,012 --> 01:35:55,350
which were, you know,
probably the most challenging
possibly in my entire life,
1651
01:35:55,383 --> 01:35:58,921
my dad and Susan were there
every step of the way
1652
01:35:58,954 --> 01:36:01,289
to support me and keep me going.
1653
01:36:03,959 --> 01:36:08,563
And after that,
my dad and I never
again... looked back
1654
01:36:08,596 --> 01:36:12,134
at the wreckage
from our past, ever.
1655
01:36:16,939 --> 01:36:20,442
"So here we are.
You're a man, an individual,
1656
01:36:20,475 --> 01:36:24,346
"very bright, talented,
goal-oriented, sensitive,
1657
01:36:24,379 --> 01:36:27,449
"and a lot of other good things.
1658
01:36:27,482 --> 01:36:31,486
"Above all, I want you to know
that you are priceless to me.
1659
01:36:31,519 --> 01:36:35,123
I'm proud of you,
and I deeply love you.
Your father."
1660
01:36:46,401 --> 01:36:49,437
My life has become much,
much more about family.
1661
01:36:49,471 --> 01:36:52,040
I used to... The way
I describe it now was
1662
01:36:52,074 --> 01:36:55,978
I used to major in career
and minor in family.
1663
01:36:56,011 --> 01:36:57,221
And now, I've turned it around.
1664
01:36:57,245 --> 01:37:00,115
I'm much more
majoring in family
and minoring in career.
1665
01:37:00,148 --> 01:37:03,151
I do an occasional pop-up thing
here and there for friends,
1666
01:37:03,185 --> 01:37:04,953
but mostly, I'm dealing
with my family.
1667
01:37:04,987 --> 01:37:08,423
With dad marrying
our step-mom, Susan,
1668
01:37:08,456 --> 01:37:11,493
she and Aaron became
a part of our family.
1669
01:37:11,526 --> 01:37:15,263
She was great in the fact
that she showed Dad
1670
01:37:15,297 --> 01:37:18,133
that being with your children
and your grandchildren,
1671
01:37:18,166 --> 01:37:21,069
it's very important.
1672
01:37:21,103 --> 01:37:23,872
You need to be a part
of their life.
1673
01:37:23,906 --> 01:37:26,975
And let's bring
everybody together.
1674
01:37:27,009 --> 01:37:29,411
Let's... Let's have
a big family unit,
1675
01:37:29,444 --> 01:37:31,179
and we have a big family.
1676
01:37:32,614 --> 01:37:34,358
In the last years of his life
were the times that
1677
01:37:34,382 --> 01:37:35,559
the family got together
at the house
1678
01:37:35,583 --> 01:37:40,322
for any variety of occasions
from birthdays to holidays.
1679
01:37:40,355 --> 01:37:42,290
Leonard was a very
even-keeled guy.
1680
01:37:42,324 --> 01:37:43,926
He didn't always show
a lot of emotion
1681
01:37:43,959 --> 01:37:49,631
but I'd say those times
at which he would toast
the family at those gatherings
1682
01:37:49,664 --> 01:37:53,902
were the times I maybe saw
him express the most emotion.
1683
01:37:53,936 --> 01:37:56,138
He was so grateful
to have everybody there.
1684
01:37:56,171 --> 01:37:58,549
He was grateful to feel
the love from everybody
that was there.
1685
01:37:58,573 --> 01:38:03,011
And he was grateful
to be able to love
the family the way that he did
1686
01:38:03,045 --> 01:38:04,965
and provide for the family
the way that he could.
1687
01:38:34,176 --> 01:38:37,679
The day Leonard died, I, uh...
1688
01:38:37,712 --> 01:38:39,647
He was in a coma,
1689
01:38:39,681 --> 01:38:43,251
and I, uh, leaned over
and said to him...
1690
01:38:51,326 --> 01:38:53,962
"You made the world
stand up and listen."
1691
01:38:55,097 --> 01:38:57,665
And I'd swear
he nodded his head.
1692
01:41:39,161 --> 01:41:42,197
What I admired about Leonard
1693
01:41:42,230 --> 01:41:46,668
was his willingness
to love his family,
1694
01:41:46,701 --> 01:41:50,638
and because I was
on the periphery of it,
I got that love.
1695
01:41:50,672 --> 01:41:53,741
It made him a wonderful actor
in the work we did.
1696
01:41:53,775 --> 01:41:56,244
And I think it
made him a mensch,
1697
01:41:56,278 --> 01:41:58,146
probably a word you're
going to hear a lot.
1698
01:41:58,180 --> 01:41:59,614
Mensch.
1699
01:41:59,647 --> 01:42:05,320
A mensch is someone
who's responsible,
and disciplined,
1700
01:42:05,353 --> 01:42:06,588
and you can count on.
1701
01:42:06,621 --> 01:42:09,324
He was just this
stable force in my life,
1702
01:42:09,357 --> 01:42:11,459
and I knew I could
always count on him.
1703
01:42:11,493 --> 01:42:13,895
He was the mensch of mensches.
1704
01:42:13,928 --> 01:42:18,700
He was loved and adored by,
I think, everybody on the set.
1705
01:42:18,733 --> 01:42:24,406
To create a character
who leaves a mark
on the society,
1706
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,742
that strikes a chord
that resonates,
1707
01:42:27,775 --> 01:42:29,711
Leonard Nimoy did that.
1708
01:42:29,744 --> 01:42:32,880
If there was
a word you would use
to sum up or describe
1709
01:42:32,914 --> 01:42:36,851
either my dad as an individual
or as Spock, the character,
1710
01:42:36,884 --> 01:42:39,421
what would that be for you?
1711
01:42:39,454 --> 01:42:41,565
The first word
that springs to mind
for both of them actually
1712
01:42:41,589 --> 01:42:43,658
is, I would say, is noble.
1713
01:42:43,691 --> 01:42:44,892
There was something about...
1714
01:42:44,926 --> 01:42:48,530
There's definitely something
about Spock which is very noble.
1715
01:42:48,563 --> 01:42:52,334
He's obviously a man
of massive integrity
and conviction.
1716
01:42:52,367 --> 01:42:56,704
If I had to pick one word,
it would be dignity.
1717
01:42:56,738 --> 01:42:57,905
Artist.
1718
01:42:57,939 --> 01:42:58,840
Integrity.
1719
01:42:58,873 --> 01:43:00,308
Human.
1720
01:43:00,342 --> 01:43:03,478
He was a self-made
renaissance man,
1721
01:43:03,511 --> 01:43:07,949
but he had
a ubiquitous curiosity
1722
01:43:07,982 --> 01:43:10,618
about everything going on
in the world,
1723
01:43:10,652 --> 01:43:13,388
whether it was art,
photography, politics.
1724
01:43:13,421 --> 01:43:14,589
Logical.
1725
01:43:14,622 --> 01:43:16,258
Humble.
1726
01:43:16,291 --> 01:43:17,392
Hope.
1727
01:43:17,425 --> 01:43:20,262
Cool. Spock was cool.
1728
01:43:20,295 --> 01:43:24,999
I think a little bit of Spock
needs to be behind
every important decision
1729
01:43:25,032 --> 01:43:29,337
we make in our lives,
about ourselves,
or with regard to others.
1730
01:43:29,371 --> 01:43:31,773
The first word that does
come to mind is loving.
1731
01:43:31,806 --> 01:43:33,408
Love.
1732
01:43:33,441 --> 01:43:36,944
If it's free association,
then it's definitely just love.
1733
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,315
What's yours?
1734
01:44:54,055 --> 01:44:55,957
All right. I got it.
1735
01:44:55,990 --> 01:45:00,995
* Didn't know what time it was
And the lights were low *
1736
01:45:01,028 --> 01:45:05,933
* I leaned back on my radio
1737
01:45:05,967 --> 01:45:12,874
* Some cat was laying
down some rock 'n' roll
"Lot of soul," he said *
1738
01:45:12,907 --> 01:45:17,645
* Then the loud sound
did seem to fade *
1739
01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:22,517
* Came back like a slow voice
on a wave of phase *
1740
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:26,788
* That weren't no DJ
That was hazy cosmic jive *
1741
01:45:30,792 --> 01:45:35,963
* There's a starman
waiting in the sky *
1742
01:45:35,997 --> 01:45:38,032
* He'd like to come
and meet us *
1743
01:45:38,065 --> 01:45:40,468
* But he thinks
he'd blow our minds *
1744
01:45:40,502 --> 01:45:45,440
* There's a starman
waiting in the sky *
1745
01:45:45,473 --> 01:45:47,141
* He's told us not to blow it
1746
01:45:47,174 --> 01:45:49,511
* 'Cause he knows
it's all worthwhile *
1747
01:45:49,544 --> 01:45:53,047
* He told me,
"Let the children lose it *
1748
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:58,019
* Let the children use it
Let all the children boogie" *
1749
01:46:13,968 --> 01:46:18,806
* I had to phone someone
so I picked on you *
1750
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:23,411
* Hey, that's far out
So you heard him too? *
1751
01:46:23,445 --> 01:46:29,016
* Switch on the TV
We may pick him up
on Channel Two *
1752
01:46:30,552 --> 01:46:34,956
* Look out your window
I can see his light *
1753
01:46:34,989 --> 01:46:39,894
* If we can sparkle
he may land tonight *
1754
01:46:39,927 --> 01:46:44,932
* Don't tell your papa
or he'll get us locked up
in fright *
1755
01:46:48,202 --> 01:46:53,207
* There's a starman
waiting in the sky *
1756
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,610
* He'd like to come
and meet us *
1757
01:46:55,643 --> 01:46:57,845
* But he thinks
he'd blow our minds *
1758
01:46:57,879 --> 01:47:02,850
* There's a starman
waiting in the sky *
1759
01:47:02,884 --> 01:47:04,919
* He's told us not to blow it
1760
01:47:04,952 --> 01:47:06,921
* 'Cause he knows
it's all worthwhile *
1761
01:47:06,954 --> 01:47:10,725
* He told me,
"Let the children lose it *
1762
01:47:10,758 --> 01:47:15,530
* Let the children use it
Let all the children boogie" *
1763
01:47:15,563 --> 01:47:19,133
* There's a starman
waiting in the sky *
1764
01:47:19,166 --> 01:47:21,769
* He'd like to come
and meet us *
1765
01:47:21,803 --> 01:47:23,705
* But he thinks
he'd blow our minds *
1766
01:47:23,738 --> 01:47:28,910
* There's a starman
waiting in the sky *
1767
01:47:28,943 --> 01:47:30,778
* He's told us not to blow it
1768
01:47:30,812 --> 01:47:32,947
* 'Cause he knows
it's all worthwhile *
1769
01:47:32,980 --> 01:47:36,718
* He told me,
"Let the children lose it *
1770
01:47:36,751 --> 01:47:41,689
* Let the children use it,
let all the children boogie" *
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