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I used to visit all the very gay places
those come what made places where one

relaxes on the axes on the wheel of life
to get the feel of life

I had deep respect for Henry Kissinger
his knowledge his background and his

philosophic out well I thought he was
intelligent charming and just a good

I'll i can be respected I think he has
been a major force in our lives

dr. Kissinger is perhaps one of the
major scholars in America and the world

a day in this area

he was a fascinating mixture of power
and strategy

it wasn't just that power made you a
celebrity it sometimes that just

creating yourself as a celebrity gave
you more power requirements mall

everyone has a new york dream

thank you so much for visiting our
planet dr. Kissinger

it was fun I don't want to know if your
glasses turn up

I think isn't it was clearly an
extraordinarily brilliant man but he did

have this i think this fatal floor of
preferring to act without public

scrutiny one harper's magazine this
month there's an article called the case

against henry kissinger in the making of
a war criminal explain Christopher

I think he's a war criminal

I think he's a liar

I think he's responsible for kidnapping
or murder my own view is that if we held

Henry Kissinger to the standards we have
begun to hold other leaders other

policymakers and the standards to which
we help policymakers in germany and in

Japan after World War two

yes Kissinger ought to be the subject of
an international tribunal ought to be

what are we to make of these accusations

Henry Kissinger is the recipient of the
Nobel Peace Prize in the most famous

American diplomat in history yet

armed with recent evidence his critics
claim that some of his past actions

amounted to crimes against humanity in a
new climate of international justice

re-examination of kissing his career may
be an honor

the important thing before people die or
go senile like finisher here is to

punish them to provide retribution for
the victims a sense that they haven't

all their relatives haven't died in vain
and to provide a tarrant to make

dictators tyrants crew people will be
there a generals or national security

advisors

now I think that if they take the wrong
course and abuse their power they may be

held to and may be punished at some time
in the future

mmm

yeah

yeah

well if I ask myself why i began my
investigation into tender kiss again it

would go back as far as when I'm i
realized that he was a frightened now

because I became aware that he was
personally frightened by the

consequences of the rest of General
Pinochet with the news of that here

chili general augusto pinochet has been
arrested by police in London the 82 year

old generals being held at the request
of the authorities in Spain who accused

him of the murder of spanish citizens
when he was in power in 1998 the front

page of the New York Times announced
that in cooperation with the case

against General Pinochet the US
government would release classified

documents revealing American involvement
in killings and torture in Chile

Kissinger may have received the news
with some concern as suggested by a

phone call with his publisher

that's mr. quarter for dr. Kissinger
Henry hi how are you

no I wasn't calling out of the patient's
i was calling only to say that you're

getting all the publicity you would want
to the new york times but not the kind

that you want

they'll release these papers he

this is astonished judge appealing to an
English Court about a chilean head of

state so it's it

yeah but it's also Spain has no Ratan
national jurisdiction over events in

Chile anyway so that it makes absolutely
no sense

the day the British police an arm of
state power go out to the house of

agosto picture and declare him under
house arrest is a victory for an idea

litigator with a special interest in
human rights and universal standards of

so that's that's our bases now the next
question is what we're gonna sue

Tyga thinks that Henry Kissinger may
have reason to be concerned about the

new precedent set by the events
surrounding the Pinochet arrest in

London you know here's this magistrate
that everybody thought he's a good

friend of maggie thatcher and he's just
going to toss the case out right

well he writes one law for one world
that's what he wrote his judgment for me

I tell you something

the most dramatic moment of the hearing
about furniture was the testimony of the

Scotland Yard officer on such a tight

I was handed a warrant and i went to a
house 1130

I was showing and i went in and i turned
right and then went into a room I saw

men that I recognized as the prisoner
president is not a grateful

the prisoner and I walked up to him and
he stood and I said Augusta pitch at you

thought busted by

well I never like to miss a chance to
confront Henry Kissinger and I don't get

the area of so now he has canceled
that's four times now this year

what I yearn for is the chance for some
quality time with him he refused to

want to confront him and make him
realize that sir me

we're not going to stop asking

in early two thousand and one author
christopher hitchens published the trial

of henry kissinger first released is to
articles and Harper's Magazine the book

accuses the former secretary of state of
war crimes and crimes against humanity

and asks for a formal legal inquiry the
statement Henry Kissinger is a war

criminal

the statement i've been making for many
years is now not a piece of rhetoric not

a matter for her

it's a job description across the u.s.
kitchens improbable crusade attracted

interest with a pen for a lance he was
tilting at the windmill of kissing his

reputation

christopher hitchens as you no doubt
know is out with a new book called the

trial of Henry a Kissinger it is very
rough on you and as a book devoted to

criticism out and i'm going to deal with
with good to the kitchen

he's a man who attacked the mother
Terry's that Jackie Kennedy a set the

Holocaust never existed

and I'm not gonna do him the favor of
getting into a debate with him

I can't have it set of the hymen
anti-semite or not just emphasize that

I'm story is too much it crosses my line
and dr. Kissinger by now we'll have

knows to be 4i haven't read his book

Frank the was so disgusted by his
magazine piece

sure pipe sucker

he sucks the sewer pipe I was not
concerned that Kissinger would sue

harper's magazine because then he
Kissinger would have to go to some form

of legal disclosure I mean if you accuse
the magazine or you accuse Hitchens of

libel then that allows our lawyers to
ask questions and subpoenaed documents

and try to establish the truth of the
matter and that is not something i think

that Kissinger

would welcome Kissinger's & Myers. to
his impact is a global strategist during

the Cold War era he saw international
diplomacy as a grand game of finding the

right balance between opposing
superpowers

I think that kissing his greatest
accomplishment was a triangle and

diplomacy in which he was able to
balance China off against the Soviet

Union and have America retain a role in
the world after Vietnam when it would

have been natural for us to retreat

indonesia and chile where Kissinger may
have needlessly sacrifice human lives to

pursue strategic goals that this man
could operate at such a horrible level

and not get exposed for a year after
year after year after year how many

people came out against them is an
embarrassment to my profession I gotta

tell you the dark side of Henry
Kissinger is very very dark

born and first germany in 1923 Henry
Kissinger was 10 years old when the

nazis came to power the son of Jewish
academics

he was increasingly alienated from the
society in which he lived

I think Henry Kissinger grew up with
that odd mix of ego and insecurity that

comes from being the smartest kid in the
class from really knowing that you more

awesomely intelligent than anybody else
but also being the guy who got beaten up

because he was Jewish

in 1938 the Kissinger family fled to the
United States and settled in New York

City

Henry Kissinger was 15 in 1944 just six
years after emigrating to America

Kissinger return to Germany this time
wearing an American uniform Kissinger

was in the counterintelligence Corps and
was stationed to some place and the

American occupation zone and once or
twice

Jewish refugees that was obviously
something that weighed on as we got out

early and we didn't suffer the ultimate
consequences of being the enemy in a

totalitarian society when the war ended

Kissinger returned to his hometown a
hundred miles south of book involved the

synagogue with his family worshipped had
been burned to the ground

13 of his relatives had died in the
camps consciousness that societies can

take a very evil turn this separates me
from many Americans who have never seen

it

can't imagine it I think you can come
out of the Holocaust experience with

many different outlooks but they're two
extremes

one of which is you say never again and
you have a very moralistic foreign

policy at the other extreme is a great
realpolitik of realism in foreign policy

Kissinger of course had a mix of both
but he was mainly on the spectrum of the

power politics player he believed that
in the end what really mattered was

power after the war Kissinger was
admitted to Harvard as an undergraduate

and a graduate student Kissinger and
renowned as a student of foreign policy

in his writings he expressed an interest
in metonymic and otto von bismarck men

of power cunning and skillful diplomacy

his grounding was European not just
because he came from Europe because he

was a he was a young man when he left
but historically his intellectual

interests

the diplomatic age of europe

he was fascinated with the art of
diplomacy and of course in those days a

lot of diplomacy was secret and some of
it even duplicitous kisses flair for

international diplomacy brought him to
the attention of Nelson Rockefeller

Republican politician from one of
America's wealthiest families

to let the Russians of sentiment a
hundred eighty six miles into the sky

and return him

recommendations of the Rockefeller
report it indicates that the residents

have rocket engines of very great for us
and probably upgraded trust can be have

at the moment

Henry Kissinger published a book called
nuclear weapons and foreign policy in

which he argued for a bomb shelter in
every house and a doctrine of limited

nuclear war in the new york times he
received an admiring review from Edward

Teller the father of the hydrogen ball
believe up there acapella group is that

we have to go into production on
Barbara's at the same time that we build

up our middle forward as Rockefeller
campaign for the Republican presidential

seat of political power in Washington
but at the convention Rockefeller would

lose the nomination to Richard Nixon his
political ambition stalled Kissinger was

offered a position in the Nixon campaign

he declined but he would soon find an
unlikely route to power through the

Vietnam War

yeah

no account indochina wars is complete
without the name of Henry Casilla

it's one of those occasions where the
will to power of an individual really

counts as historical fact by 1968
Kissinger had visited Vietnam three

times and had become an advisor to the
Johnson administration his impression

was that the war was unwinnable but a
withdrawal of US forces would damage

American credibility

accordingly I shall not see to devote
his full attention to finding peace in

vietnam

President Johnson decided not to run for
re-election in 1968 at your pro

Johnson's withdrawal left vice president
hubert humphrey to face

just end to the war

I would not use atomic weapons in
Vietnam

I would not invade North Vietnam and
it's a deadly i would not invade any of

the other countries in the area of
vietnam in Paris representatives of the

johnson administration were negotiating
with the North Vietnamese in an effort

to end the war

we had been in Paris since may of 68 and
we got nowhere because retrospect

there was only one issue with the United
States going to get out and be defeated

and nobody was prepared to say yes

we've lost the war is over Kissinger was
an adviser to the negotiators who are

authorized to provide him with
privileged information

Kissinger was in Paris in September of
1968

I thought he was intelligent charming
and just a good companion but what

davidson and other members of the
Johnson team did not know was that on

September tenth Kissinger had contacted
the Nixon campaign by telephone

we certainly did not know it was in your
shared his analysis of what was

happening with them

and he was probably right for the most
brilliant mind available to them and the

most sophisticated analyst Nixon as it
will recognize talent when he sees it he

doesn't like Jews

he doesn't like intellectuals but he
loves fifty six it was

because he knows what to do without
being told Richard Nixon himself says

that he admired kissing of his ability
to supply secret information

Nixon was afraid that a peace accord in
Paris might cost him the election cousin

of notices something

richard nixon is prepared to undercut
mr. Johnson and mr. Humphrey the

President the Vice President and the
negotiations in Paris kissing you had a

very conspiratorial in sometimes
manipulative character he really like to

please

various sides you like to ingratiate
himself in the Paris peace talks

he was willing to talk about the Johnson
Humphrey camp as well as the Nixon camp

Kissinger told the Nixon campaign the
Johnson team was close to an agreement

with North Vietnam until the deal was
final the Johnson team wanted to keep

the negotiations secret from South
Vietnam but Nixon had opened a secret

channel of communication with south
vietnamese president to the go-between

was an ashen no information information
information and knowing that i traveled

to Asia quite frequently messages to
solve Vietnam always gone through me in

late-september Kissinger return to
harvard as the election approached he

kept in contact with both negotiators in
Paris and with members of the Nixon

campaign he was getting information from
both sides he probably giving

information to both sighs -

whoever when he's going to go to their
size by the way Kissinger expected to

work for whoever the next president was
you offered me a job

the next administration in September of
1968 really is independent of the

president's name right on October
thirty-first Henry Kissinger called the

Nixon campaign to say that there had
been a breakthrough in the talks

I've got some important information said
Kissinger they're breaking out the

champagne in Paris 12 hours later the
announcement was made the bombing of

North Vietnam would cease and final
negotiations would begin the prospect of

peace give Humphrey a last-minute surge
in the polls and then finally just a few

days before the election

we're moving to substantive negotiations
for the first time and they're great

hopes that time but just three days
before the election President to defied

Johnson and refused to join the peace
negotiations

certainly one reason is the advice they
got from Nixon's people

it's clear that they were being told to
hold out and not go to Paris the FBI

surveillance of the Nixon teams contacts
with to confirm this

hold on he was told we're gonna win and
without the participation of south

vietnam the peace talks collapsed

richard nixon won the popular vote by a
margin of less than one percent and we

know further that mr. cousins opinion of
mr. Nixon was very low

why is he suddenly doing this tremendous
favor George election campaign to

someone for whom he has nothing but
contempt

why it's in the hope of a political
reward dr. henry kissinger has agreed to

come with the White House staff as the
assistant to the president elected for

national security affairs

I was sitting in the lobby waiting to
get the sea

the president-elect and there was this

Rockefeller man as he was described to
me going in to see him and what happened

was that the Nixon stoli the crown jewel
out of his longtime adversaries crown

and that was Henry Kissinger the most
brilliant man on the Rockefeller staff

dr. Kissinger is perhaps one of the
major scholars in America and the world

a day in this area

he has never yet had a full-time
government assignment and he will bring

to this responsibility a fresh approach

I did not voted Nixon when he appointed
me as its security advice it

in fact i had spend three presidential
campaigns backing governor nelson

rockefeller against richard nixon

so when you read about how carefully I
plotted my way into Nixon's proximity

and want to teach that to your children
say support the opponent of the man you

for whom you under work - I think he saw
what he did is betrayal of the peace

process or the move by Johnson to stop
the bombing halt

I really think this guy doesn't see it
that way

you saw it as a means to an end which is
why it's such a good apparatchik is n

was getting that job

i Richard bill calls Nixon do solemnly
swear upon taking office Nixon and

Kissinger moved to structure the
administration in a way that would give

the new national security adviser
unprecedented power

dr. Kissinger is setting up at the
present time a very exciting new

procedure to revitalize the National
Security Council

it's centralized control gave Nixon you
know and and Kissinger on foreign policy

a tremendous amount of sort of
day-to-day control they can control the

paper movement they can control a lot of
the policy options

it's true also that Henry kissing your
chaired most of the committees and

subcommittees and that gave him unusual
authority for my staff Kissinger

personally selected a team of policy
experts drawn from academia

I like to very much and I was happy to
follow him I told him in September

any generation since since world war two
Kissinger also invited Harvard scholar

roger morris to join the National
Security Council Nixon set the general

line of American policy but Kissinger
really is the conductor of the train

he's the engineer he's the the
policymaker the most importantly is in

liaison with the Pentagon with the Joint
Chiefs of Staff with the CIA

he's conducting the diplomacy as well as
the military policies the major

immediate goal of our foreign policy is
to bring an end to the war in Vietnam

Nixon renewed his campaign pledge to
bring an honorable end to the war in

private

Moscow had been convinced that we were
going to do everything necessary to win

that war and when it promptly they would
advise their clients to pull back

Kissinger's definition of an honorable
indoor of a decent into the war I think

I had nothing much to do with with honor
or with decency

it had to do with American credibility
these of the the Soviets and in the long

run visa be the Chinese that Kissinger
was concerned and so was Nixon at the

United States not appear weak or
indecisive or vacillating as Kissinger

is supposed to have said and I don't
know if he ever did that our goal is to

have a decent interval between with
toral American forces on the rape and

the first version they were looking for

remember what the 68 campaign was about
they had a plan they were looking for an

easy way to get out the vietnam war had
just done done

the the predecessor President Johnson
it's it's hard for you to understand

what a huge burden this was on these
people in order to achieve peace with

honor

Nixon and Kissinger wanted to show ha
noi that the new president would use

extreme force to prosecute the war that
he was capable of anything

it was an idea called the madman theory

less than a month into Nixon's
presidency he and Kissinger began

planning an attack against North
Vietnamese sanctuaries in neighboring

cambodia the Americans started bombing
Cambodia in 1969

soon after Nixon came into office
because they had a problem the problem

was that whole areas of eastern Cambodia
which was in theory a neutral country

not on the side of the North Vietnamese
or the South Vietnamese whole areas of

the country had been taken over

by the North Vietnamese communists and
they were using them as staging areas

and basis for their attacks on the south
vietnamese army's in south vietnam and

on the American army in South Vietnam
Cambodia Thailand

they were overrun the whole Peninsula
this became one of those the greatness

of the Vietnam War was that the key to
success was getting rid of the the

vietnamese communist bases on the
Cambodian side of the port

Cambodia's and magnetic Princess Fiona
can manage to keep his country out of

the Vietnam War he hoped to avoid taking
sides and so prevent an open violation

of cambodia's neutrality

this led to all sorts of problems
because taking the war secretly into a

neutral country meant you had to to to
destroy the actual records or to conceal

them very effectively to lie in fact

well it was a because the motivation was
for the secrecy because it was illegal

so I mean that simple

require the approval of the US Congress

I don't know that Congress would have
allowed it the last thing Congress

wanted then was an expansion of a war in
February 1969 in a secret meeting on Air

Force One Kissinger and his aide
alexander haig met with air force

colonel raise certain to plan for the
secret bombing of Cambodia with

Kissinger want it done was they are
sitting to find a way in the master

bombing so nobody would know what's
going on and sit in it

menu and each of the targets were
different

all supposed to be different North
Vietnamese bases in Cambodia and they

were called after names of meals
breakfast lunch dinner snack

starting with breakfast Kissinger
approved a plan to conceal the Cambodian

bombing missions from military records
under this duel reporting system

b 52 pilots would be pre assigned
targets in south vietnam in mid-flight

their planes would be re-routed by
ground radar stations and guided to

secret targets in Cambodia the returning
pilots would report that their bombs

have been dropped on South Vietnam
Cambodia would never appear in the

record I think Kissinger was clearly an
extraordinarily brilliant man and

brilliant and also a manipulative and
also very secretive under Kissinger

supervision

the US for 3600 secret missions over
Cambodia in 14 months

dropping a hundred and ten thousand tons
of bombs Colonel sittin recalled that

Henry Kissinger was intimately involved
in the direction and timing of the

bombing raids real attention to the
cruelties of the details

to say that a country can occupy a part
of another country

kill your people and that then you are
violating its neutrality

when you respond against the foreign
truths that are on that neutral

territory

I it is a little hypocrisy one week
after the first bombs had fallen and

Cambodia rumors of the operation began
to surface in the press

Kissinger contacted the FBI to request
that wire taps be used to find the

source of the leaks

close relations it legitimized me there
was a reporter writer

commentator for the New York Times and
everybody felt a little creepy about

uses mix an apologist to writing for the
time but then when it turned out that i

he wiretapped aids & associates in the
Pentagon

I was one of the people who was
wiretapped while serving under him

I cannot forgive him for being a party
to it or four never apologizing

it was not one of the things that filled
me with a while

joy on the other hand it also seemed the
way by which it could be demonstrated

that my staff was loyal but i'm sure
they were complex of reasons that that

to fortify his position as nixon's
deputy he was endlessly playing off his

own staff one against the other and
playing them off against the President

and there was a lot of Jackie

as much power as possible to him

or Beijing or any of our rivals in the
world the real Hospital powers were the

rest of the American government the
Department of State the White House

stand the CIA the Defense Department
those were Henry's principal adversaries

because they were the rivals for for
power in Washington like a moth to flame

Henry Kissinger was always attracted to
his critics and the best way to get him

to return your phone call was to write
something negative

he understood more about my profession
the most of us he always understood if

you could get the three networks and
Time and Newsweek he was home free

what makes a man sexy what you know what
is it is it money the whole thing and

Henry says power it is the ultimate
aphrodisiac

he cultivated the press before anybody
even knew it was possible to do

he realized that in this
celebrity-obsessed aid that if you

became a celebrity

and said are you a swinger and I said
I'm too busy to any public swinging and

I don't want you to think that I don't
do any swing so why don't you just

Henry used his flamboyant personal life
to cover up his professional life and it

gave him a lot of cover he could go and
have meetings he could do things he

could take stand and everybody is
concentrating on our kissing to the

swinger you love the thrill of dating
starts dating beautiful women these were

as a sense of fun

a sense of knowing that he could be in
the limelight that he could be with

beautiful people that he got a thrill
from it and we get to the restaurant and

Sinatra who was terribly paranoid he's
saying

Oh everybody says i have mafia
connections I don't have mommy

connections and Henry said that's too
bad

Frank I need somebody to take care of my
enemies

Kissinger as enemies in Vietnam continue
to haunt him

while the war dragged on an official
state department delegation met with the

North Vietnamese in Paris but Kissinger
was confident he could secure more

favorable terms he opened a second
channel of secret talks with North

Vietnamese negotiator lay duct oh and we
were told that those negotiations were

to be kept secret not only of course
from the public not only from the media

but also from the rest of the US
government

neither the secretary of state nor the
Secretary of Defense were to know

anything about it

and Henry was flying off quite to
secretly on weekends to meet with late

October and swan tree in Paris at a safe
house

this was all very conspiratorial full of
intrigue which he loved he put out the

story that he was meeting a girlfriend
Jill st. John or someone in New York

when in fact he was in Paris negotiating
with the North Vietnamese how do I get

out of it

because we're having a meeting today sir
well do something for friday have a

you'll be meeting again tomorrow sir

we expect alien Kissinger secret talks
made little progress toward peace in

vietnam but they did expand his power in
Washington the negotiations that he

conducted their way of exercising his
own control establishing his own

authority in the negotiating process as
it became apparent that Nixon would turn

to Henry for strategy

he gained in that influence they gain
some more self-confidence and made an

enormous contribution to Nixon's policy

secret bombing had failed to destroy the
sanctuaries the North Vietnamese had

formed an alliance with Cambodian
communists and had moved deeper into the

country

CIA supported cool

the Cambodian coo set off a kind of
chain reaction inside the American

government in Richard Nixon and Henry
Kissinger denying CIA support for the

coup Kissinger and Nixon announced us
support for the coup leader Ion all who

probably attacked the North Vietnamese
means North Vietnam counter-attacked and

moved even deeper into Cambodia they saw
that as a challenge again to American

strength to the credibility of American
foreign policy

Nixon decided to invade cambodia to send
a message to North Vietnam a few days

before the invasion

the president wants you to know Henry
that if this doesn't work it's your ass

Kissinger told his staff are peerless
leader has flipped out

but Kissinger defended and implemented
the decision to invade saying which

scared North Vietnam Nixon would be more
emphatic he said let's go blow the hell

out of them

I decided to resign

felt that that the Cambodian invasion
was a betrayal of the president's pledge

to seek an honorable and just peace in
vietnam

I knew that that piece was within our
grasp I was intimately involved in the

negotiations

I knew that the other side was ready to
agree that we were ready to agree and

that the Cambodian invasion really
destroyed all of that devastated it for

years to come

and literally cost tens of thousands of
American lives

hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese
lives

in April thirtieth 1970 US forces
invaded Cambodia Vietnam attacks are

being launched this week to clean out
major enemy sanctuaries on the Cambodian

explosive nearly 500 American
universities shut down and on the

morning of May fourth national guardsmen
opened fire on 15 students at Kent State

University killing for as Nixon promise
publicly to remove forces from Cambodia

Kissinger review to plan to increase the
pressure on North Vietnam to surrender

Henry Kissinger began in the fall of
nineteen sixty-nine in September to plan

a savage brutal blow against North
Vietnam

these were his words he said to us as a
Planning Group

I can't believe that a fourth-rate power
like North Vietnam does not have a

breaking point for 11 days in december
of 1972

and what became known as the Christmas
bombing a hundred and twenty-nine b-52

bombers dropped 40,000 tons of bombs on
how am I and high farm hitting a

hospital and other urban centers

what many did not know was that
Kissinger had struck a piece of cord

with North Vietnam two months before but
South Vietnam is present to the man who

had undermined the 68 peace talks will
not accept the deal without proof that

the Americans would enforce it

the Christmas bombing had much more to
do with the South Vietnamese than with

the North it was a gesture to the two
regime it was a way of saying the United

States is willing to make this this one
great last brutal blow against the North

they buon the North Vietnamese simply to
persuade the South Vietnamese that they

meant it was a demonstration bombing it
was a public relations mass murder from

the sky

the bombing did appease the south and
Kissinger persuaded the North Vietnamese

to make a few cosmetic concessions in
january nineteen seventy three kiss and

terms of peace were almost identical to
the terms that johnson administration

and nearly secured before the election
of 1968

half the names on the Vietnam Veterans
Memorial incised in stone for dates

after january nineteen sixty-nine there
is enough

marble in Washington to put all the
names on one wall

we wouldn't dare try and put up a wall
that had the names of all the enemies on

you don't end up here

then I shall receive the award to get
over it my old colleague in the search

awarded the nobel prize for peace
symbolize the end of the anguish and

suffering but to his embarrassment

Kissinger was unaware that lady octo
would not attend the ceremony in Oz low

the Vietnamese counterpart with me
shared history took to refuse to accept

the prize on the perfectly excellent
pragmatic grounds that there was no

peace in vietnam to celebrate so there
shouldn't be a price for it

I thought it was a a terrible travesty
that he should be awarded a a peace

prize when in fact he was a war maker

not a not a war in der adapted Kissinger

what would you say was the high point of
your tenure as Secretary of State and i

would say you 19 in 1973

then I run to know about Peace Prize for
ending the Vietnam blah and the wall.

i'd say 1975 when the vietnam war ended

once the paris peace accords were signed
in December of 72

that was that ended the American direct
involvement in Vietnam but to preserve

peace with honor

Nixon and Kissinger decided to defend
the anti communist regime and Cambodia

it was to be a secret mission air
strikes against communist forces

directed by the American Embassy in
phnom penh it made free the American Air

Force they could not bomb in Laos they
could not bomb in Vietnam so that began

the the incredible bombing of Cambodia
and this is when the number of bombs

Elizabeth becca covered the war in
Cambodia from 1972 to 1974 we would be

able to hear the conversation between
the pilot the American pilot in the air

and the American Embassy which was
illegally directing the air strikes

we couldn't understand why there are so
many civilian

casualties in this war why were they
hitting all these civilians and villages

it was every nightmare of how you fight
a war from nineteen sixty nine to

nineteen seventy three more than 500,000
Cambodians die

I 1974 the bombing had disrupted the
nation's agricultural system and a

famine ensued over 2 million refugees
poured into overcrowded cities American

policy in those years towards cambodia
helped create the conditions

perhaps the only conditions in which the
Khmer Rouge can't power the Khmer Rouge

drew strength from the chaos of the
country when they seized power in 1975

they force populations of entire cities
back to the countryside

then they began a policy of
exterminating the enemies in execution

grounds that came to be known as killing
fields by 1979 another three million

Cambodians had lost their lives

no one you what the Camaro's we're going
to do

Khmer Rouge that sir

disgracefully dishonest thing to try to
do but the carelessness with which the

United States treated cambodia as a
sideshow to Vietnam did lead to disaster

to Cambodia congress authorized money
for bombs in south vietnam and they went

into Cambodia and there's a criminal act
for you

you know line and therefore I think
anybody who died in Cambodia you could

argue criminally that they were guilty
of murder one

people did nobody authorize them the
bomb Cambodia there was no american war

in Cambodia before President Nixon and
dr. Kissinger that is totally incorrect

I think we inherited a tragedy we
attended to and succeeded in extricate

America with other from this tragedy

oh we inherited it no you did not
inherited you created your the designers

of the Cambodian policy crimes against
humanity are crimes but comprise

genocide or torture or mass murder
committed on a widespread and systematic

basis against innocent civilian
populations

you're talking about war crimes for
example when world war two started and

that's that was criminal behavior you
bomb troops you didn't Brown bomb

innocent civilians but the time the war
was over we had virtually wiped out

virtually burned to the ground

so was that criminal

perhaps in July 1973 the detection of
Nixon's taping system would lead to the

discovery of the Watergate cover-up

the indictment of key members of the
White House staff and the end of the

led eventually to the employment of the
plumbers which was a secret White House

team employed to stop leaks which led to
Watergate which led to the fall of Nixon

so in a way the bombing of Cambodia was
the first step in the chain that led to

the fall of nixon nixon resigned rather
than face impeachment one of the

original articles of impeachment address
the concealment of the Cambodian bombing

from Congress when the impeachment was
dropped

so was the investigation into the secret
bombing the new president gerald ford

retain Henry Kissinger as his secretary
of state and pardoned Richard Nixon

Nixon managed to carve a shameful plea
accept a pardon

his attorney general former campaign
manager John Mitchell is put in an

send down the river no attorney general
to have been to jail before but there

are more members of the innocent group
all of them bound to each other by

criminal understanding is any one of
them left of the people who were

involved in the foreign domestic crimes
of the year

we're delighted to have such a large
turnout tonight for what I know will be

an informative and perhaps provocative
evening with our guest dr. Henry

advisor and Secretary of State and the
reason i mention that it's because never

before and never since have relations
between the White House and the State

Department penis ceremony 'as

that's a ver good notes days

Kissinger has written three best-selling
books about his life

but in the deed of his government papers
to the library of congress he has not

allowed anyone else to access them until
five years after his death out was the

deed of the paper

the right thing to do I was it that it
further our understanding of how they

operated

you know I mean by putting those papers
away know of course that it simply was

real documents of his administration
become known as Secretary of State under

smallest corners of the world in east
timor a small island and the Indonesian

archipelago Henry Kissinger saw a
communist threat to the global balance

the Indonesian detection thought it
would be better if Indonesia occupied

and our next the people and territory of
his team or

so they evolve the plan whereby they
took the land and they subjected the

people to the campaign of genocide

but what is it is widely known as it
could be or should be is that on the day

they took that decision

Henry Kissinger was sitting in the room
with the introduced in general stuff

good evening from jakarta indonesia the
latest stop on President Ford's agent or

on the sum of the fifth nineteen
seventy-five President Gerald Ford and

president day and Indonesia will be
taken up mostly by ceremony for and

Kissinger wanted to strengthen
diplomatic ties with Indonesia a

non-communist a lie between Australia
and Vietnam that controlled crucial

ceiling

there's more to this trip in China
politics and security for Southeast Asia

the islands reasons enough of the United
States to want to maintain good

dr. Kissinger met with along with
President forward with President Suharto

and i was present at that meeting

many have interpreted that meeting as
dr. Kissinger is giving a green light to

the subsequent indonesian invasion of
timor east timor was seeking its

independence from portugal Kissinger had
long been aware of the growing

popularity in east timor of a left-wing
independence movement called Fretilin

the Indonesian military throughout this
period was concerned that they're not be

a separate

independent entity develop on one half
of one of their islands with strong

chinese communist influence when dr.
Kissinger came

I think the decision had already been
made by the indonesian that the efforts

to negotiate with the Portuguese and not
come to fruition and therefore they

needed to take direct military action
but any military action would involve us

weapons which had been sold solely for
self-defense on december six as forward

and Kissinger concluded their visit

preparations were underway for an
invasion

why they asked the Indonesian is
invading us why they asked if the

Indonesian believe that Fretilin his
communist to the not send a delegation

to dilly to find out why they asked the
strain is not helping us when the

Japanese invaded they did help us

why they asked the Portuguese not
helping us we're still a portuguese

colony who they asked will pay for the
terrible damage to our homes

one day after this report Greg
Shackleton was killed in east timor

what we saw was the massive wave of
thousands of people as a result of the

air from

see land that's happened

a lot of people having

with no cameras to witness the invasion
a radio transmission from the Red Cross

is the only live record of the horror of
the event

what I saw was my own government was
very much involved in what was going on

support food uniforms ammunition all the
expendables of the Indonesians needed to

conduct this war

you can be one hundred percent certain
that Suharto was explicitly given the

green light to do what he did

yeah

lives of over a hundred thousand two
Marines in interviews Kissinger has long

denied that he discussed the invasion in
the meeting with sahaja we were told at

the airport as we left

jakarta that either that day or the next
day they intended to take these two more

well I don't want to take issue as the
accuracy of dr. Kissinger's memoirs

but it was mentioned in the meeting with
sorrow as I recalled sorrow was quite

candid said that after several months of
trying to resolve this through

negotiation

indonesian felt they had to take direct
action

one week after this interview the
transcript of the meeting with suharto's

released

so harder I would like to speak to mr.
president about another problem

team or we want your understanding if we
deem it necessary to take rapid or

drastic action

ford we will understand and will not
press you on this issue

we understand the problem you have and
the intention to have Kissinger you

appreciate that the use of us made arms
could create problems

it depends on how we construe it whether
it is in self-defense or is a foreign

operation

it is important whatever you do succeeds
quickly we would be able to influence

the reaction in America if whatever
happens happens after we return

the US government knew exactly what was
happening in those first days of the

invasion december seven eight nine
thousands of memories were killed

reports of people being herded into
school buildings by indonesian soldiers

with the building set on fire and anyone
trying to get out being shot most of

people being burned alive people being
hurt in the fields and machine gun and

people being hunted down in the
mountains so anyone out there was in

what amounted to a free-fire zone

the Indian agent did not handle it very
well

from the standpoint of the global
community but again our our leverage was

limited and it was seen in 1975-76 and
the light of the post Vietnam era as a

very important country to us and it
happened in in a year and southeast asia

and into training ahead collapsed

it was the question of approval it with
a question of not being able to do

anything about it knowing full well how
many people were killed

they were so concerned at the US State
Department that they cabled Henry

Kissinger twice saying that the US
Congress would cut off military aid in

the butt and bilateral weapons sales to
Indonesia because clearly indonesia was

using these weapons for offensive
purposes and it would be hard to make a

case that Indonesia was threatened by an
invasion from his to walk so while

kissing is in the air flying home the
State Department has to issue these

statements

it's a matter of law and they have to
say Congress may indeed cut off aid as a

result of this as a legal matter when he
returns from his trip to Indonesia to

the State Department he comes back to a
bureaucratic rao of his office because

it is furious

Kissinger I want to raise a little bit
of hell about the department's conduct

in my absence

take this cable on east timor it will
leak and it will go to Congress to and

then we will have hearings on it and it
will come out that Kissinger overruled

his pristine bureaucrats and violated
the law

the arms Export Control Act and the
foreign assistance i passed by Congress

that limit the ways in which American
weaponry can be used and they can find

these uses to external self-defense

Kissinger and we can't construe a
communist government in the middle of

Indonesia is self-defense

Lee well Kissinger then you're saying
that arms can't be used for defense

no they can be used for the defense of
Indonesia Kissinger

I know what the law is but how can it be
in the u.s. national interest for us to

kick the Indonesian xin the teeth

about arm sales which did continue after
a brief hiatus

in a later meeting one of Kissinger
zaid's confirmed that normal relations

with Indonesia had resumed not very
willingly said Kissinger illegally and

beautifully

today Henry Kissinger is a successful
businessman

he runs a firm called Kissinger
associates in which he uses his

diplomatic experience to help businesses
around the world but while Kissinger

he is also haunted by them last year

issue was Operation Condor a campaign of
murder and torture conducted by the

regime of augusto pinochet the rest of
our gusto peanut che in london in

October of 1998 directly led to pressure
on the clinton ministration to

declassify hundreds of thousands of
documents secret documents from the CIA

from the State Department and elsewhere
blacked out as they are these documents

are really rather extraordinary there's
a paper trail right up to Kissinger is

office that help us revisit this history
and understand our efforts to overthrow

covertly democratically elected
government in Chile

I really think chili was probably the
basis in the most corrupt of all the

actions because it had nothing to do
with national security properties used

all over the world but the right of
known reserve a copper ore in south

america and the Republic actually in the
nineteen sixties chili was fertile soil

for American corporate interests
including I tnt which controlled the

copper industry and pepsi cola early
1970s see and I TNT are concerned about

political developments in Chile

as the country's democratic presidential
elections approach a left-wing candidate

name in Salvador ind was gaining popular
support his ties to feed hell Castro

platform

Soviet Union was a democracy

ind promise to nationalize chilis copper
industry a direct threat to I tnt and

concern to other US corporations

Kissinger his office to tell them that
we had grave concern of the outlook for

ittt invest as I TNT called on Kissinger
to take action against ind pepsi

President Donald Kendall echoed the same
concern to an old friend richard nixon

if he does it right in Chile he's can
ensure a good flow of campaign money and

71 and 72

he's got a lot of big money people that
want him to do something about chili so

chilly became the most important
national security item they had what

brought about the changes in Chile where
the facts that it was being communist

yeah

in September for and1 a plurality of the
vote

it appeared certain that his victory
would be confirmed by the Chilean

Congress the election in Chile has been
one but the president has not been

confirmed the new presidents of your and
actually has like the united states that

transition period of about 60 days

the CIA declared that chili on the ind
would not be a threat to the United

States but Nixon found the prospect of
an IND presidency unacceptable as

advisor to Richard Nixon Kissinger
followed Machiavelli's rule of

flattering add relating and serving the
powerful to be a success in a September

meeting Kissinger shared his views on
Chili's democratic election

I don't see why we need to stand by and
watch a country go communist due to the

responsibility of its people in
September 15 Nixon met in the Oval

Office with Kissinger and richard helms
director of the CIA Helms handwritten

notes reveal a plan to prevent a ND from
coming to power not concerned risks

involved

no involvement of the embassy 10 million
available more if necessary

an internal CIA memo dated September 16
outlines the official but secret policy

asked Helms to report directly to him on
the details of cooperations concealed

plan for covert action became known as
track

- of course I was a broad policy

I make no excuses that should have it
another Marxist regime in the hemisphere

know in a meeting with Hague and others

Kissinger emphasize that drastic action
was called for

shocked that your lens Kissinger
really became the general manager of

this covert operation representing the
President of the United States

he ignored the advice his own staff that
a coup was not possible

I decided to start sending these
increasingly worrying

the alarms to Kissinger that anything
that might be tried would be an utter

failure

the Chilean military was not going to
engage in anything

Kissinger swept aside these objections
and press the CIA to go forward to

foment a military coup but the third
cable was the one that really excited

Kissinger because it said unequivocally
that if any adventure were undertaken it

would boomerang against the United
States and personally against the

president

worse than the Bay of Pigs that was the
cable like they got me a summons home

right away because they thought i had
stumbled on their plot

I find it so i flew to washington
president greeted me he then launched

into a denunciation of ind he kept
hitting his hand like that he was going

to smash

ind economically kept referring to him
as that bastard that sob he was going to

Smashing I want that and then

with the inauguration approaching word
of possible covert action against ind

which general rena schneider head of the
Chilean military Snyder announce you

would uphold my end is confirmation for
the Chilean Congress he was unaware that

men from within his own ranks were being
recruited by the CIA

anybody remember sana et al masih me on
Arizona a phenomenal idea

okay look at this here and we're going
to clear a little lazy forgot gee guys

soon begin a percent 18yo my
congregation it to orient aspect or

another with Joe be going sat on a cat
on the scene over there is a general

rené schneider is thought of as the
principal obstacle to a military coup

constitution in santiago the CIA helped
design a plan to kidnap schneider they

thought they would provoke the military
into declaring Martial Law suspending

the CIA is Santiago station chief cabled
Washington general snyder is the main

barrier to all plans for the military to
take over Washington cabled back

constant pressure from the White House
more important than ever to remove him

it's therefore decided schneider must go

and for this task men of a proven record
of criminal violence are recruited

they're given sophisticated
assassination weaponry through the

United States diplomatic bag a track to
see I a community confirms this the

cable reports that plans against Neider
we're moving along

requesting eight to ten tear gas
grenades 345 caliber machine guns with

500 rounds ammo

yeah

and bounds over a CI h challenge back

no one sat on a lot after hatching hey
too hard to all in late-september why

not

then US military attaché II had been
secretly assigned to work directly with

the CIA in santiago an avid equestrian
while its love of horses and made him a

close associate of officers in the
Chilean military an ideal go between the

CIA station gave why matter war chest of
cash to pay out

anti ND groups I should include in my
office safe

so I took it was giant long rubber band
shirt future shouted and i put it more

and Butch and no one else

boots boots but me I had his best places
to achieve it in October the 15th

kissing to receive word that track to
coup plotters had made a failed attempt

to kidnap general schneider in a meeting
with the CIA

he expressed his concern that plans for
a cool at this time cannot succeed in

his memoirs Kissinger would later write
that he had turned off track to at this

meeting but the very next day the CIA
sent a cable to Chile it is firm and

continuing policy that ind be overthrown
by a cool

it is imperative that these actions be
implemented clandestinely and securely

so that the United States government and
American hand be well hidden

if you Henry Kissinger everybody knows
what you want

and does he know that they know what he
wants sure does he know what they're

going to do or how they gonna do it are
you kidding

anybody that would tell them what's
going to happen is never going to get do

a briefing again

do you really think somebody would take
a piece of paper into the White House

that say a consequence of this may be a
death of somebody

do you really think so no immediate
Santiago submachine guns and ammo being

sent by regular Korea leaving Washington

Oh 700 hours 19 October derive Santiago
late evening

twenty october or early morning 21
October preferred use regular courier to

avoid bringing undue attention to
operation

yeah

maybe it's a little tricky to bow to a
minion and he

now talk to your semantically to fail
the garlic inna a a young Gandolfini my

teens emoticon a family go to co allowed
to follow yahoo autos

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key out of town today

A Fella hinted romping video on muscle
peeling apart at the end

totally private vika when they moved to
stop sign that morning and he show for

didn't pay much attention to me for
driver he went the same way all the time

and then here one morning he goes to go
there and it blocked off as over here

and then it stopped following the
shouting was an American mischief you

know that was investigated a nauseam by
an opposition

senator church and if you read the
church here is its all there and nobody

was invited

nobody was was charged with illegal acts

mr. Kissinger his presence here should
not be interpreted as meaning that he

himself was ever involved in any plot to
assassinate any foreign figure in the

Church Committee the CIA testified that
Kissinger had been kept fully informed

of the Schneider situation every step of
the way even after October 15 Kissinger

maintained that he turned off all coo
plotting on october 15th

for Kissinger to be correct this would
go down in history as one of the

greatest misunderstandings between the
White House and the CIA but when you

read the documents Kissinger was very
clear he said let us keep pressure on

every I end a weak spot in sight

now and into the future until such time
as new marching orders are given the sea

i walked away from its meeting with
Henry Kissinger believing it had been

mandated to continue trying to foment a
coup in chile on october 19 according to

the CIA

kisses aid alexander haig was briefed by
the CIA on continuing coup attempts

one can only presume that Alexander Haig
whose Duty it was to report to Kissinger

on this type of information fully
briefed Kissinger on what the CI told

him according to the CIA on october
twenty five days after Kissinger claimed

he had turned off track -

he demanded an update on the Schneider
situation there was no policy since to

assassin into it's a 10-8 any foreign
official

listen just said there was no plot I and
family hours

I was not involved you are they like

it's part of people concerned in the
White House this thing ended in October

15 then i think around october twenty
service so they

I don't remember the exact date they
kidnapped an ID and in the process is

killed him

it may be impossible to know precisely
what happened yet it is hard to

understand how on october 19 the CIA
could have shipped unmarked guns to

chill a without authorization

you see therefore it's okay

that's the way it works not a
fascination and not murder that that the

hearing was very clear about that it was
a accident old and in terms of the

United States but isn't kidnapping a
crime of kidnapping is it depends on

what your what your objectives are I'm
not gonna justify they were not my

policy if you were found standing over a
dead man in the street with a smoking

only trying to kidnap him

a murder committed in the course of the
kidnap any action which is because of

getting that aggravates the offense

chilean police investigation did not
find any evidence to support a

kidnapping

after the murder the CIA commanded the
Chilean station for doing an excellent

job

CIA internal inquiry revealed that 35
thousand dollars was paid to one of the

perhaps only a legal inquiry will reveal
the truth if you could develop a

scenario if you develop a factual basis
to find that Henry Kissinger was

compressive then you could sue him in
the courts the United States you might

face some statute of limitations
problems which you have to try to

overcome by saying that the duplicity
with which henry kissinger has dealt

with these issues saying one thing for
the official record and another thing in

private and hitherto unreleased records

that kind of concealment you be so he
can be thinking in LA and he fit the

attack on follow soon be anybody come
out of tackle say i attended basically

they insect or guitar I II didn't get on
with it and 0 to figure

yes in sector eight anybody in eclectic
but that possible political compass

under

after Schneider's death I end it was
elected but the efforts of Kissinger and

Nixon to overthrow Andy Andy would
ultimately succeed in 1973 military

forces launched a coup in santiago
killing

I n augusta finishing would assume power
and begin a reign of terror that would

last 17 years

the date was September 1128 years later
to the day

The Washington Post announced a lawsuit
brought against Henry Kissinger by rena

schneider junior to the death of his
father

the news would be overshadowed by the
events of later that morning

the one hand

in testimony to what evil can do in the
world

but the mayor and his associates have
done here

State surveyed the wreckage the campaign
had already begun to see that those

responsible for the loss of innocent
life be captured and brought to justice

I don't think you could have it
metaphorically more perfect than that

democracy for short term or fanatical
aims of their own is now hunting which

the whole world takes part

and they can't be any exceptions

we're not Kissinger is guilty of crimes
against humanity his case raises issues

about the accountability of public
figures the way the past haunts the

present and the movement for universal
justice all revolutions are impossible

till they happen

then they become inevitable

is that this movement has acquired an
air of inevitability hundred and thirty

nine nations have become signatories to
the International Criminal Court a

know

America is not signed up to the
International Criminal Tribunal for fear

of this in his latest book and
international affairs

Henry Kissinger argue strongly against
what he calls the pitfalls of universal

jurisdiction

it's a facet of American exceptionalism
to think that international law is a

very fine thing for other countries that
international law applies to everyone

except Americans the average person
things that

- human relation

that is not always the case because
sometimes statesman have to choose among

us

I to think that somewhere down deep

he knows what he was doing he knows it
was against a lot of first principles

which is why so much his masked and
hidden

there's so much distrust it's a very
very sad way to go to your life

whatever he did whatever he accomplished
i'm not sure it's worth it because he

had to live a lot more years and it's
been out of power for a long time you

know 25 years now in his own way the
reason I don't worry about war crimes

anything else

he's got his own sentence he's gotta
live with himself

yeah

yeah