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Coming up, the Real Housewives of New
Jersey reunite for a dramatic three
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reunion. I've obviously been going
through a terrible time.
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It hurts my heart.
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I love you, Dad. I cannot sit here and
act like everything's fine. That's what
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you're going through. That was my
mother. It's not the cancer.
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I've never hit below the belt.
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Holy sh...
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Here we go. Dina, you wrote in your blog
about having funerals in your head for
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those who cross you. Did you do this for
Caroline and Jacqueline? I kept my
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mouth shut for four years.
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Jacqueline opened the door by coming
back on the show. This show is about
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family. What about mending family? I
need a break.
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To me, family doesn't act like that.
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Did Jim ever embarrass you? Sit down, be
the little bitch you are, and shut
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the... Who are you talking to? You. Who
are you talking to? Is there a bathroom
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somewhere? You are very rude. I need a
brain. I need a heart. I'm a darky. I
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want to go home. I want to go home.
Don't ever repeat about my sister. Next
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I want somebody to dance on my grave, I
know who to call.
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Clank, clank.
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Oh, Teresa's gone.
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After six years of accusations.
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Prostitution.
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Betrayal. I'm not sticking with scum
like you. And heartbreak. Do not break
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my family.
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It all comes down to this.
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You're going to make me cry, Andy,
because this is probably going to be my
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reunion.
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Good evening, everybody, and welcome to
the Real Housewives of New Jersey
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reunion. I'm Andy Cohen with the Real
Housewives of New Jersey.
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This year felt very different from past
seasons of the show. We welcomed three
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new housewives, and we saw a veteran.
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But underlying it all were Teresa and
Joe's legal issues that were just
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resolved.
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Welcome, ladies.
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Dina. Good to see you, Andy. It's been a
while since I saw you on this couch. I
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know. Only one time. I know. Dina.
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Hi, Andy. You look fantastic.
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Thank you. How are you?
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Thanks. How does it feel to be here
today?
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I'm fine.
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Good. Teresa, great to see you. Good to
see you too, Andy.
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You're so tiny in person.
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Oh, yeah.
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Same goes for you, Nicole.
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I think you look a lot smaller in
person, too.
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Oh, my gosh. You're so funny. Hey,
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Amber. Hello.
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Love the shorter hair. Thank you. How
many inches did you cut?
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I think it was 12.
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Very cool.
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Hey, Melissa, speaking of hair, you
changed yours.
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I did. Back to your first season.
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Back to my roots.
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Yes. Per Joe's request.
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Okay. Hi, Teresa.
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Hi. Thank you for being here.
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You and I sat down the day after your
sentencing.
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Now that a little time has passed.
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A little time? A couple days.
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Is the reality of the situation settling
in? Are you getting any sleep?
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Not really.
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Yesterday was Gabriella's birthday.
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I had to get together with her friend at
the sports place because Gabriella
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loves sports.
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So Melania's like, Mommy, I think I want
to have it here too.
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But it made me sad because I don't know
if I'm going to be here for that.
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When is Melania's birthday?
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February. February.
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And you're meant to report in early
January.
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Mm -hmm. Yeah.
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Dina, you and Teresa have been very
close for how many years?
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Going on 25 years.
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How are you taking this news about your
friend?
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For me, it's, um, she's much stronger.
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It's just surreal for me.
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I want to rewind back.
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Me too.
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There's like a certain anger that she
wasn't taken care of properly.
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There's people who commit murders
walking around on the street. She's such
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good girl. It's just crazy to me.
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Melissa, have you two seen each other or
spoken since?
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I haven't, no, this is the first time I
saw her. I mean, I've called her and
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everything, but she's been...
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Yeah, she texted me.
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And I called her. What I love about you,
though, is like when we spoke
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yesterday, it was Gabrielle's birthday
and that's where she was. Who else, you
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know, who would be that strong? It's
amazing. Yeah, like they don't know. My
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kids don't know anything.
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It's just like how it's always been.
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OK, we're going to get into more of this
in a bit. I want to turn to you, Dina,
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and your return to the show.
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Polly from Amarillo, Texas, said, Dina,
you were gone forever.
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What made you decide to finally return?
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Is it because certain people from the
show are no longer on it?
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I'm not going to lie.
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That did have something to do with it. I
would never do a show with family
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again. Because?
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It's just not a healthy environment.
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Uh -huh. If it was a cooking show or
something fun, maybe.
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You're telling me you would do a cooking
show with Caroline?
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I absolutely would. You would? Yeah. Oh,
wow. I love my sister.
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Yeah. You're just not.
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Getting along.
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I'm not going to get into this with a
sibling.
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I remember when you left the show, you
said to me that you couldn't deal with
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the drama and the negativity.
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And you were on the show during a pretty
intense time. I mean, obviously, you've
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been through this longer than anybody,
and it's been more intense for you than
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anybody. But the Danielle era, that was
really intense for you. Let me tell you
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something about my family.
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We are thick as thieves, and we protect
each other to the end.
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You will not sit here and attack my
sister.
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I am the one that showed the book.
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Jacqueline, why don't you tell her the
truth? You two came in this line and
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showing everything. It was me. I saved
your ass and did not even tell her it
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you until this moment. You are two
-faced. Two -faced. You're not her
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You're two -faced.
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Jacqueline, listen to me. You're such a
liar, Jacqueline.
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I'm done with this. I'm not covering for
you anymore. You're not. You never did.
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I'm curious how you think it's changed
since then or how your experience has
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been coming back.
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It felt different for me this season
because I didn't have to worry about
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hurting Caroline or Jacqueline by going
against what they thought.
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And I think there was a lot of
manipulation behind the scenes with
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with Danielle and stuff like that. Like,
I don't hate Danielle. I didn't back
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then. It was annoying.
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That's not what everybody else felt.
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Was that kind of the beginning of the
deterioration of your relationship with
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Jacqueline and Caroline?
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It was kind of the end of me wanting to
partake in all of it anymore. Because
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when I left, I distanced myself from all
of them, Teresa included.
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Yeah. I got it. Yeah. You know, I got
it.
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Dina, we know this was also a tough year
for you with your marriage coming to an
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end and your daughter heading off to
college.
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We watched you struggle to stay zen.
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Namaste, bitches. Take a look.
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In my life, spirituality plays a huge
role.
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You're right through a full transitional
period. And Lexi's going to school now,
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so she won't be here anymore.
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I'm just trying to, like, handle one
thing at a time.
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With Tommy, so stressful, that situation
alone.
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I'm going through a separation with my
husband.
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I'm not ready to send his people paper
right now.
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Yeah, I think that's what my fear is.
Like, I'm never going to find real love
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again. Dina, this is Matt. This is Dina,
and I think... Hi, how are you?
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You're going through a divorce?
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Separated. Still live with him.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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So, are you officially divorced?
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No. No? I haven't filed yet. You haven't
filed yet? No, I'm in no rush. You're
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still living with him?
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This is working for us. We enjoy the
time that we do see each other. Friends
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would benefit?
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Where else am I supposed to get it from,
Andy?
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Well, I mean, you're gorgeous. I don't
know. I feel like you could get it
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anywhere. You know, I just got Lexi
settled into her dorm. Right. And, like,
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that was my focus.
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You've got to get your pipes cleaned,
Dina.
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Maybe I am, but just from the plumber
that I know.
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All right.
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And not from a stranger.
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I know how then you are, but.
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You seem like the type of person that if
someone crosses you, you're a bit of an
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oxymoron because you talk about how zen
you are and spiritual, but I feel like
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you will cut a bitch.
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Yeah. I won't cut her. I will cut her
off. I will cut a bitch off.
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Okay. Phil from Walt says, how does your
husband feel about you dating other men
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while you're still married?
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That's not zen. That's just slutty.
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No, that's called separation.
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Slutty is when you have sex. She and I
have sex with him.
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Okay. I'm sure Nicole vouched for that,
too.
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Yep. Mark from Venice said, Dina, you
wrote in your blog about having funerals
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in your head for those who cross you.
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Did you do this for Caroline and
Jacqueline?
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No, I'm not talking to Dina.
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You and Dina are not. Dina's not talking
to me. Yeah, because of your doing.
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She claims that I never supported her,
and Teresa's a big part of it.
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I don't have a relationship with her
right now.
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She still hasn't acknowledged my son.
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There's things, you know, that are
hurtful.
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We're going to be fine, though, one day.
But she's got to go through it.
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I usually don't have funerals for
family, but there might have been a
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There might have been a wake?
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Really?
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Have you spoken to either Caroline or
Jacqueline recently?
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Do you think you'll ever reconcile?
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I think what they think and what I think
are two different things. For me, it's
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like just taking a break.
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I'm sure one day they will.
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Yeah, I mean, with my sister, I'm sure.
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But unfortunately, I don't know.
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Clearly, there's a lot of pain there.
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I love my brother. I love my sister.
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Right now, I've got to be honest with
you, there are certain people that I
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cannot have an exchange with.
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Jacqueline. Always toxic.
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It's just healthier to love from a
distance for me.
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And you know what? Nobody could judge
her because I could totally respect.
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Her decision. The issue was the show, it
seems like. The show definitely.
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Played a huge part. Yeah. Yeah.
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Teresa, Laura from Alabama said. I'm
glad you said that.
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It's about time you admit something.
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I'm asking her. I said.
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I have to applaud you for that one.
Thank you. No, I'm serious.
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Thank you.
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Because the show does do a lot of
things, you know. Yeah, but you don't
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be on a show with your sibling or sister
-in -law and fight with them.
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Well, you don't. You don't want
confrontation with people. You always
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keep it real, though.
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Yeah, but keeping it real sometimes is
not a good thing because people hit
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the belt then.
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I've never hit below the belt. You think
in six seasons you've never hit below
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the belt?
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No. I know this season you did hit below
the belt with my mother.
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Well, no, I didn't. See, I think I'm put
in a little situation because I don't
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want to backtrack. I feel like we've
come so far.
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And, of course, there were times where I
felt like I was hit way below the belt.
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But with everything that's going on, I'm
not going to sit here and even say how
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I feel about this one. I'm just going to
sit this one out. To be honest with
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you, I wasn't a, you know, religious
watcher of the show. I mean, I've
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it sporadically. You should have watched
the show. But what I have seen of you,
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this is kind of your emote. Are you
insinuating that I hurt people? I've
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hurt Jacqueline. You know what I mean?
And Jacqueline was my good friend for
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over ten years.
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Never hurt Jacqueline.
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Teresa, Laura from Alabama said on a
past reunion, Caroline hinted that you
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a big part of the reason for her falling
out with Dina.
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Curious, any truth to that? I was just
offended by that because Teresa was
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friendly with them when we were already
on the outs. So how can that be
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possible?
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Will you be watching Manzode with
children? I don't watch TV, Andy.
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We'll be back with more with the Real
Housewives of New Jersey after this.
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He is a disaster on social media. You
also did things on social media. The
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that came out of your children's tweets
were disgusting.
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I need a break.
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To me, family doesn't act like that.
People that love each other hurt each
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other.
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Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.
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Stephanie from Mercer Island said,
Melissa, we have seen you and Teresa
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over and over again. I just never
believe it will last. Are you two really
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this time?
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Yeah. I mean, I can't speak for Teresa,
but for me, yeah.
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Yeah, I'm done.
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I'll never fall into that again.
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Well, Melissa, this year we saw you
transform from pop music princess to the
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queen of sanitation.
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Take a look.
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You look like a model tonight.
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Thank you. I like your hair like this.
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Not many guys can pull off a bug's head.
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Mommy, where are we going?
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Joe and I sold our house. We have now
moved to Franklin Lake, where we're
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building our new home.
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I like this small, disgusting house.
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Don't say that, Antonia. In the
meantime, we're shacking it up in a
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There it is.
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What? The Gorgas are in the garbage
business.
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I think I want to kill him. We invested
a lot of money. What if this doesn't
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work? Then we lose everything.
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Joe's looking pretty good. I like him
better with the buzzed head than the
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painted. I like it so much better. I've
been trying to get him to do that
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forever. Yeah.
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Painted. You always say so.
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Well, I mean, it was, you know, I mean,
we saw it last season. I mean, it was
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like a thing.
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How do you have black all over you?
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There's all this black tar. I have no
idea.
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What do you think of him with the buzzed
head?
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He looks good. At first, I wasn't used
to it. Right. He does carry the bold
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look. No, he's got a really nice shaped
head so he can pull it off. Yeah.
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Jamie from Staten Island wants to know,
how's the garbage business going?
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Do you think it'll be better or worse
than your singing career?
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She's from Staten Island.
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Yeah.
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It's something that my husband invested
into. It's not our main company. I mean,
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Joe is still a real estate developer.
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This is just something that he invested
into as a side business.
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Did you wind up selling your big old
house or?
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So we sold it with an extended close.
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So he was supposed to close within 12
months. And then little by little, this
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guy was not keeping up to his end of the
agreement.
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So we really had to fight hard to get
him out.
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So is he still there?
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No, he's out. Maybe I'll go squat in it.
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Maybe you should get that house. I'll
just go squat.
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You should just become a professional
squatter, yeah.
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So the status right now is the house is
empty, and Joe and I are in a position
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now where now we have a property that we
poured the foundation, and we're
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building one home, and now we still own
our house in Montville, so we have both.
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Janice from Milwaukee said, you're
living in a rental three times the size
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most homes, yet your kids call it small
and disgusting.
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Tonya said that, and she doesn't feel
that way about the house. And I also had
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long talk with her. And she goes, I
know, Mommy.
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You know, the problem with it is it's
coming from kids of privilege, which is
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not how I grew up. But I do feel for her
because when she was born, she was born
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into a house that size. And she doesn't
understand. And I try to teach her as
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much as I can, and now she gets it. But
it's a downsize for her, but she's very
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comfortable there. I love the coziness
of the house. I actually enjoy a smaller
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house. Well, Melissa, through you, we
got to meet one of our new housewives,
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Amber. Viewers learned that you are not
only a proud cancer survivor, but also a
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no -nonsense mom with a husband who
takes no prisoners. And that's putting
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mildly. Take a look.
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I almost lost my life to breast cancer.
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The whole experience changed me as a
person.
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You really need to be the best person
you can be at all times.
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The day she had the surgery, I've never
cried like that in my life.
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My husband is a gentle lion. I wish the
other girls could see this side of Jim.
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Did you smoke a cigarette?
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Yes, I smoked a cigarette.
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What do you do with it? Why would you do
that? Because you stress her out.
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I felt like he was a little rough on you
that night.
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Everything's good at home. Oh, my God,
yeah. Okay.
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I cried way too much. I got the chills.
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You did?
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Why'd you get chilled?
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With the cancer. I mean, seeing her with
no hair.
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Yeah. What stage was your cancer when
they found you? Stage one.
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Stage one. So what's the rate of
survival of that?
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If you go through chemotherapy and the
double mastectomy, it's actually 95 %
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survival rate. Oh, great. Yeah. We got a
lot of questions about you playing the
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cancer card.
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It's cancer.
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What is it? The cancer. The cancer.
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I don't know. I don't know. It's cancer.
It's not the cancer.
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You know what? It's my title. If I want
to say it, I'll say it. It's my cancer.
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I hope you never get it, and you'll
never have to deal with it. In the
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I'm going to call it the cancer.
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Okay. Well, let's talk about the cancer.
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Paul from Bedrock said, do people often
accuse you of pulling the cancer card
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for sympathy?
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Uh, yes, it's been said, you know, but
twins said it, and watch what happens
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live. Did you ever say it? I don't even
remember. I think you said it. No, you
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actually didn't say it, so let that
break out. That would not be the twins.
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right, girlfriend, we got it. It's not
twins. All right. It's two different
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people. Nicole, sometimes I just match
you together. You guys are just a little
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package. Well, you have a brain.
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You have a brain. You know the
difference.
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You guys have one. You guys have one.
Let's not go there first. Can I speak
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You guys are ready to jump at me?
Nobody's jumping. I'm just saying. Holy.
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Here we go. Okay. The voices.
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Okay, anyway.
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You know it looks good, by the way. So
does yours.
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I actually didn't get mine. Neither did
I.
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That's really funny.
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Okay, look at that.
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Oh, my God. Can we just, like, what's
going on?
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I'm getting nervous. I want to get a
nose job, actually. That's what Andy's
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Please don't tell me that.
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Anyway, so about cancer.
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I never used it as a sympathy card.
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I wanted to use this show as a platform
to raise awareness and hopefully save a
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life.
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Christy from Tupelo said, Amber, Jim
seems like he's Jekyll and Hyde. He goes
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from really sweet to really nasty very
quickly.
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I don't believe that he doesn't act this
way at home, too.
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How do you deal with the mood changes?
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I don't piss him off at home. You don't
piss him off? No, I mean, we don't hurt
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one another. And he really is truly
amazing, as long as you don't fuck with
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Have any of you ladies felt personally
insulted by Jim?
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Hell yeah.
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I'm even going to say yes on that one.
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Hell yeah. The only time he's ever, and
I don't know if he was, it was to me or
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to Dean, it was that time we were at the
party and it was like, you guys are
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dummy and the IQ thing.
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No, he didn't call you dummy. He just
said out loud.
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He said that they were stupid.
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Jesus Christ, does anyone here have an
IQ above 12?
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No. It shocked me when he was speaking
to us.
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And, like, we're dudes. Listen, you act
like a lady, he'll treat you like a
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lady. You act like a barbarian, then
you'll be treated like a barbarian. It's
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simple as that.
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Thank God you guys are not married to
him. Say that again.
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I wouldn't want to be married to Tommy,
so it works.
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So I want to ask the twin, can you guys
say anything nice about Jim?
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I personally cannot say anything nice
about him.
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I think every single one of us here was
just beaten down by him.
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I think at one point he has been, I've
never been around such, you know what,
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you are perfectly suited for each other.
Thank you. What I'm saying is, you're
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welcome, I've never been around such an
abusive person.
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He never laid a hand on me ever.
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Nicole, you think that she's in an
abusive relationship?
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Um, I can't imagine him not doing it to
his own wife.
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Because I'll clock him if he touches me.
I would clock him. I don't think
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physical. Verbal abuse. I can actually
see why you'd clock him. And trust me, I
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have gone toe -to -toe with him just
like you did.
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What I have to say is I think once we
stopped filming, the drama continued
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Jim on social media talking about my
mother. He is a disaster on social
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You also did things on social media,
too. Not at all, Amber. Yes, you did,
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actually. Amber, Amber. As soon as your
children, the vile...
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that came out of your children's tweets
were disgusting.
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That your husband has a penis.
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No. Kudos to my son for finally saying
that.
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He's 13. That your husband is my mother.
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My son, you know what? All right. Okay,
ladies, I got to put a pin in this.
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Jim will be out, and we will continue
this conversation.
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We're going to take a break. We'll be
right back.
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It hurts my heart to see them going
through anything that affects our
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They're my family.
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Dino, has this distance kept you from
your nephew?
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As bad as it is, I don't know. Nicholas
at all.
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Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.
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We're joined now by Kathy Wakili and
Rosie Pieri. Hi, ladies. Hi. Hi. How are
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you? Great.
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Great. Congrats on the new cookbook.
Thank you. Teresa, have you gotten a
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yet? No.
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You've got to send her a copy. I know.
I'm very late on all that. I will.
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Kathy, as a Christmas gag gift, you got
Teresa a dictionary.
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Here, tell her to send it down.
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Teresa's turn.
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Dictionary! You need that! That's
perfect for you!
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I'll give this to my kids.
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It was a grab bag that could have
been...
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For anyone.
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But you grabbed it. Yes, and God knows
here in Jersey we could only get a
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dictionary. No, I didn't grab it. It was
Rosie put it in front of me.
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Okay. So I'm like, I guess everyone
wants me to open this, so I'm going to
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this. Just like Melissa kind of put the
vibrator next to me, right?
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I thought that was a nice gift for you.
Rosie, have you used your gift?
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No, actually, I left it on the table in
the glass of water. We all did. I opened
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Teresa's, and it was also a vibrator,
and I left it on the table. We all left
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it. Did I?
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Oh, yeah, you know why?
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I just brought it because I got it at
one of my book signings. Someone gave
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a vibrator? They were giving them out.
It was a bridal expo.
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We think that a dictionary is something
that all of you can use. Let's take a
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look at some of our favorite Jerseyisms
from the season.
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I feel like every woman should try boob
-dwarf pictures.
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He'll do goers and he'll do... Hopefully
he'll find the lobster tails.
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And put them in the refrigerator.
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You know, a little camaraderie here.
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Giving her the cold soul, cold... And
you need to be accountable. Do you
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understand that?
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Yeah, no, no, I do not.
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Hello, Amber, you bought this on
yourself.
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Is it brought?
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Yeah. He was trying to disarm your
husband.
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Little migrants of a husband.
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It's like I jigged myself.
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You want yourself.
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Melissa, you think Amber should be
accountable?
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She should be accountable for her
actions.
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See what I mean, Andy? We could all use
that dictionary.
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Teresa, what does it mean to jig
yourself?
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Oh, jinx? I like to say jinx.
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Charlotte from Little Rock said, Teresa,
what in the world is a myrant?
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Like a little troll, like a little
myrant, like a little... Is it a real
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Is it? I kind of feel like it is.
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Midget and a tyrant.
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A myrant.
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What's that dictionary now? Yeah, like,
I'm going to look that up, Andy.
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All right, Rosie and Kathy.
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This season, you ladies seem to get
along nicely with the new cast,
455
00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:14,770
Rosie. What were your first impressions
of the twins?
456
00:23:15,150 --> 00:23:19,230
Oh, they're, like, fun, bubbly, you
know, having a good time. And who do I
457
00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:20,790
along with? I get along with everybody.
458
00:23:21,230 --> 00:23:22,670
You're a love muffin. You're like
Switzerland.
459
00:23:23,370 --> 00:23:24,370
Yeah, exactly.
460
00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:28,850
Everybody loves Rosie. Susie from Akron
said, Teresa, how do you feel about
461
00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:31,850
seeing Rosie and Kathy these days? Are
things good between you?
462
00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:33,950
Yeah, things are fine.
463
00:23:34,170 --> 00:23:35,170
Yeah.
464
00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:40,810
Well, ladies, when you aren't pushing
cannolis, you're dishing out the
465
00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:46,190
surprises. We watched as Kathy built her
dream home and Rosie rebuilt her life
466
00:23:46,190 --> 00:23:47,710
after a sudden breakup.
467
00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:48,729
Take a look.
468
00:23:48,730 --> 00:23:49,730
Rosie!
469
00:23:50,510 --> 00:23:51,950
This is my sister, Kathy.
470
00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:53,350
I'm Nicole.
471
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:55,230
You come with cannolis, you're my best
friend.
472
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:59,250
You've been one of my best testers, so
try it out. Yes, I have. I put it here,
473
00:23:59,250 --> 00:24:00,149
put it here.
474
00:24:00,150 --> 00:24:01,510
We're going to be neighbors, Jack.
475
00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:05,690
Richie's been hounding me for years to
move.
476
00:24:05,950 --> 00:24:10,070
What would you envision over here?
Boutique -style closets, you know? I
477
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:13,210
I'm the only person that could get Rosie
out of the closet and then bring her
478
00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:14,210
back in.
479
00:24:14,270 --> 00:24:15,870
Ellen and I are no longer together.
480
00:24:16,430 --> 00:24:19,790
Really? You know, honey, I want to send
you somebody else.
481
00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,990
I know. It's worthy of you, and you'll
be happy.
482
00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:25,330
I know, Mama. Okay, soon enough,
sweetheart, okay?
483
00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:28,770
I mean, I know you got a lot of stuff
going on. I'm going to phone call away.
484
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:32,670
All I know is everybody in that family
is in my heart.
485
00:24:33,130 --> 00:24:37,250
How do you feel that your niece, Teresa,
and her husband did a guilty to, I
486
00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:38,390
don't know how many counts of fraud?
487
00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:42,190
Well, listen, I don't know what to say,
but when you don't do the right thing,
488
00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:44,310
Rich, it always gets up with you.
489
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,060
I want to go back to the conversation
that you all were having about your
490
00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:54,040
cousin's situation. You talked about...
I need a break.
491
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:56,780
You guys can have the conversation
without me.
492
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,480
Where's the bathroom?
493
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,480
That was a broad statement, and there
was more to that statement that we
494
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,120
see in this clip. What she said was, you
make mistakes, they catch up to you.
495
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,820
But she wasn't trying to single her out.
496
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:22,500
Yeah,
497
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,260
I don't want to be out there with that
conversation.
498
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,700
They could have it without me, and then
I'll walk back in. My heart was beating
499
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:30,600
when I heard my aunt was beating like
500 again.
500
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,080
I'd just rather step out because I
didn't feel it was right.
501
00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:36,040
To me, family doesn't act like that.
502
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,580
Why do you think Teresa just walked off?
503
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,440
Well, it's difficult.
504
00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:43,720
It's very difficult for her. That's what
my aunt said.
505
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,900
Very inappropriate. I don't want to be
there.
506
00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:47,340
Do you have a mint?
507
00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:48,860
Do you have gum?
508
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,500
Dina, why do you think Teresa just left?
There's just certain lines that you
509
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,000
don't expect family to cross.
510
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,260
Do you think they crossed the line? I
think maybe it was just better to not
511
00:25:58,260 --> 00:25:59,620
speak about it at all.
512
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:05,820
I don't even know what to say. It's not
something that we put out there.
513
00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:08,140
And she wasn't saying anything to damage
her.
514
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:11,840
Kathy, listen, I think you're a
beautiful person. I like you. But did
515
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,460
see me talk about her legal issues? No,
because I knew not to go there.
516
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:19,240
This is where I get the bitch
reputation, because I say what's on my
517
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,700
don't try to hold back. People that love
each other hurt each other,
518
00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:25,840
unfortunately. That's just the way it
is. But today's a new day. As a matter
519
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,840
fact, I texted her and expressed how I
felt, you know?
520
00:26:29,180 --> 00:26:33,120
Rosie, have you been in touch with Joe
Giudice? I sent the text, and I said to
521
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,100
him, you know, I would love to visit you
and the girls and Teresa, that it would
522
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,100
mean a lot to me.
523
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:44,780
It's like when I went to Joe's dad's
week, it wasn't for them so much because
524
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:45,820
know they know I'm sorry.
525
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,120
It's for me that I needed to go.
526
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,580
And pray for him and pray for the repose
of his soul.
527
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:56,560
I want them to know, really, this has
hurt my heart to see them going through
528
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,200
anything that, you know, that affects
our family. They're my family.
529
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Oh, a penny.
530
00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:05,180
You find a penny.
531
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:12,020
I'm just... I want to move on to some
things that have been happening with the
532
00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:12,939
two of you.
533
00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:16,360
Rosie, sorry to hear you and Ellen
called it quits. How long were you
534
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,640
We met in March.
535
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,840
That crazy Pisces, you're better off.
536
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,800
You know, we were together for like a
year almost, and things just didn't, you
537
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,720
know, work out. She kind of went on a
public thing after you broke up and said
538
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,740
you used her for the show. Like, I need
somebody for a show.
539
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,420
I'm a show in itself. Give me a break.
540
00:27:37,340 --> 00:27:39,040
Anything you learned from that
relationship?
541
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,300
I know what I don't want.
542
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,360
Kathy, earlier this spring, Victoria had
a recurrence of her brain tumor.
543
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,700
How is she doing?
544
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,400
She's doing great, thank God. We never
expected it.
545
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,900
See, your child has to go through that,
not once, but twice, and not know if
546
00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,640
she's going to be able to move or she's
going to be able to know you when she
547
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,559
comes out of it.
548
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,560
That's difficult.
549
00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:06,380
She's strong, she's made us proud, and
we're very blessed.
550
00:28:06,910 --> 00:28:07,910
Happy to hear she's okay.
551
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:10,730
Thank you. Are we still talking about
this? Because then I'm going to leave
552
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:12,030
again. No, come on in. Okay.
553
00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:18,690
I do just want to ask you one thing,
which is, I mean, do you want to tell me
554
00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:23,330
why you left? Because I'm going through
a lot, and I needed a break.
555
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:24,830
Yeah.
556
00:28:25,150 --> 00:28:27,250
I'm assuming that that really hurt you,
what you saw.
557
00:28:27,650 --> 00:28:28,650
Next question?
558
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:30,830
It did, obviously.
559
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:35,010
Next question. I told my family, you
guys don't talk about my legal issues.
560
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:38,890
You never spoke, you never called us,
me, anyway. Well, Kathy knows.
561
00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:43,850
We didn't talk about your legal issues.
They just showed it. But I have to ask
562
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:47,590
you, you're on a show. I don't care
about the show. This is my family. They
563
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:50,310
respect me. Well, I think that we've
definitely respected you.
564
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:55,670
But you were so open this season about
exactly what was going on with you. I
565
00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:57,030
open about my feelings.
566
00:28:57,370 --> 00:29:01,430
Right. And she can choose whatever she
wants to say. I didn't get into details.
567
00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:05,050
But did the rest of them get into
details? Were they talking about their
568
00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:06,050
feelings?
569
00:29:06,130 --> 00:29:09,330
No, there was no nitty gritty about any
of your details.
570
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:13,430
That's your opinion, Ro, and I want to
get it to my opinion. I get it, Tree.
571
00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:18,450
I mean, is there anything you want to
say on this topic to Teresa before we
572
00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:20,650
on? I don't want to talk about it. No, I
understand, but can she?
573
00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:24,520
I don't want to talk about it. Next
question. And I want to respect her
574
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,880
with that. I wanted to know that, you
know, like I said earlier when she was
575
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,420
of the room, that regardless of the
differences that we have had, we are
576
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:35,380
and we do love you.
577
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,740
We're very sorry for what's happened. I
don't want to talk about it. Can we talk
578
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,540
about something? Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
579
00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:43,740
Okay.
580
00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:51,970
Back with the Jersey Housewives after
this.
581
00:29:52,550 --> 00:29:56,530
There was a rumor that you were furious
with anybody who was going to shoot with
582
00:29:56,530 --> 00:29:58,910
Jacqueline. I kept my mouth shut for
four years.
583
00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:02,690
Jacqueline opened the door by coming
back on the show. All bets are off.
584
00:30:06,190 --> 00:30:07,970
Teresa, your boobies look huge.
585
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:11,050
Like, bigger than normal. Inking a lot
of milk.
586
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:17,230
Haters are going to hate, and I just
love, love, love.
587
00:30:17,710 --> 00:30:19,290
Andy, what would be your tagline?
588
00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:25,510
My tagline would be, I may be a man, but
I fight like a girl.
589
00:30:26,670 --> 00:30:32,190
I've got to be good today. I could say
so much right now. Or, I didn't major in
590
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:34,270
English, but I know how to read.
591
00:30:34,910 --> 00:30:35,910
Thank you.
592
00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:36,989
I like that.
593
00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:38,390
Those are two that I'm working on.
594
00:30:41,390 --> 00:30:44,450
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.
595
00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:48,330
Heather from D .C. said, Kathy, it was
great seeing you spend time with
596
00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:51,630
Jacqueline, but do you feel like you're
a traitor to Teresa for being her
597
00:30:51,630 --> 00:30:52,630
friend?
598
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:56,350
No. My relationship with Jacqueline has
nothing to do with Teresa.
599
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:57,750
How do you feel about that?
600
00:30:57,970 --> 00:30:59,710
She can be friends with whoever she
wants.
601
00:31:00,490 --> 00:31:04,530
Well, she is not here today, but it was
clear from watching this season that
602
00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:09,110
Jacqueline's been busy since we last saw
her and that Teresa has been on her
603
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:10,230
mind. Take a look.
604
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:12,750
Let's read first. Let's read first.
605
00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:14,130
I...
606
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,660
We're very focused on getting Nicholas
the right autism treatments.
607
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:20,060
I love.
608
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,420
I just don't like seeing him struggle.
609
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:31,060
Did we tell you we're selling our house?
We're in a different position now than
610
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:35,760
we were 13 years ago. When I had first
moved to New Jersey, we were living with
611
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,800
Caroline, with Ashley, with Chris's
other sister, Dina and Lexi.
612
00:31:41,470 --> 00:31:44,630
I didn't even know Dina was still upset
with me from season one until Teresa
613
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:47,830
told me. Because I want you guys to have
peace.
614
00:31:48,030 --> 00:31:49,810
Maybe one day we'll bring it back
together.
615
00:31:50,430 --> 00:31:53,290
I have been a little bit worried lately
about Teresa.
616
00:31:53,610 --> 00:31:54,910
I heard about the plea deal.
617
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:57,450
Jacqueline texted me a few times.
618
00:31:58,130 --> 00:32:02,690
You'll get a first start and the future
will be brighter than ever.
619
00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:05,290
You're still the strongest woman I know.
620
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:09,590
XOXO. That text really kind of choked
you up, huh?
621
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Um, because that was the first time I
read it.
622
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,420
Uh -huh. Have you heard from Jacqueline
since the sentencing?
623
00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:20,560
No. Oh, you mean afterwards, you mean?
Yeah. Yeah, she did text me. She was
624
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,260
like, I wanted to follow my heart. So,
you know, she texted me. With all you're
625
00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:25,680
going through, do you miss her?
626
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:27,460
No. No.
627
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,540
I wish her well with her son.
628
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,460
You know, I was there when Nicholas was
born.
629
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:32,700
Yeah, you were.
630
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:36,460
She has to remember that Nicholas gave
her this flower just in case they ever
631
00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:37,460
date one day.
632
00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:39,400
I mean, he's a beautiful boy.
633
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Dina, has this distance kept you from
your nephew?
634
00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:48,360
As sad as it is, I don't know Nicholas
at all. I mean, I know him in my way,
635
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,080
I have a picture of him on my altar, and
I pray for him every night.
636
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,320
Is it hard for you to watch those scenes
with him?
637
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,420
No. He's progressing, and he's so
beautiful, and he gets to be home and
638
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:01,840
around. The work that I do, I see
children.
639
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,840
in hospital beds, attached to machines.
640
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Like, he's progressing.
641
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,060
I think it's a beautiful thing. But, you
know, whenever you see your child, no
642
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:13,320
matter what the illness is, no matter if
you're cold even, you feel so bad.
643
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Absolutely. Of course, yeah. And Andy,
you know the saying, God gives you what
644
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,120
you can handle.
645
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,220
If Jacqueline invited you over to meet
him, would you go?
646
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Probably not.
647
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:26,740
There's nothing I could do to help
Nicholas other than pray for him and
648
00:33:26,740 --> 00:33:31,480
him. I'm not Mother Teresa. I can't sit
there and heal him.
649
00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:37,280
Nicholas doesn't know me. I have to say,
what hurts me more is my daughter.
650
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:38,380
That's her godfather.
651
00:33:38,980 --> 00:33:43,800
And she grew up with him. Chris. Yeah,
like, I'm more bothered for the kids
652
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,800
understand.
653
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,100
She's so innocent and all this. Lexi's
such a good girl.
654
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:50,580
I invited everybody to Lexi's graduation
party.
655
00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:52,660
You invited Jacqueline and Chris?
Everybody.
656
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,740
Jacqueline, Chris, Caroline, the kids.
Caroline?
657
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,759
Mm -hmm.
658
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,960
And did they come? No.
659
00:33:57,420 --> 00:33:58,420
I was there.
660
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:00,360
What'd you say? I was there. You were
there?
661
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Yeah. But I will say, in Jacqueline's
defense, Jacqueline did text Lexi and
662
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,500
that she would try to come, but
beforehand she wanted to have it sit
663
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:15,280
that's not what we wanted to do. I would
love for them all to show up and
664
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,280
everything just go away.
665
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,699
Do you think that's possible, though? I
tried to squash it a million times in
666
00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:22,580
the press and say everything was fine,
hoping that they would go along with it,
667
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:25,199
and then just, like, you see each other
and everything goes back to normal.
668
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,500
But it somehow doesn't go away.
669
00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:30,739
would you be going to Lauren Manso's
wedding?
670
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,199
I don't know. We weren't invited to the
engagement party.
671
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:34,960
Do you know how hurtful that was?
672
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:37,100
Like, I didn't think it was like that.
673
00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:38,739
But you haven't spoken.
674
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,900
I know, but it's like there's things
that, you don't need to interact on a
675
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:48,600
daily, but milestones for a future that,
that to me is kind of, my daughter
676
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,379
wasn't invited.
677
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:50,659
So you were surprised? Shocked.
678
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:56,920
I always say hurt me, I can take it.
Hurt my kid, my parents, all bets are
679
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,700
But do you also feel that things change
on a daily? Well, no, because last month
680
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:03,920
on Twitter it was the same BS.
681
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Right, I understand that. I've gotten
texts over the years, so I don't see
682
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,740
change. The bulls**t's got to stop.
683
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,880
Why does social media have to be
involved?
684
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:12,240
That's nonsense.
685
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,180
If you've got something to say, someone
pick up the phone.
686
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:16,680
Go to their house.
687
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,860
You know, everybody should just stop
with this Twitter.
688
00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:21,620
Twitter. It's water.
689
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,220
On Twitter, you said just a hint of why
I stay away.
690
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,740
I'm not afraid of anything. I'm not
running from anybody. There's nothing I
691
00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:32,360
to hide. Everyone can say all the things
they want about me and this and that.
692
00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:37,300
It's a toxic exchange that I choose to
stay away from, and I have a right to do
693
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:40,920
that. Jacqueline said, I advise you not
to imply any more hints if you don't
694
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,220
want the truth to come out.
695
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:44,800
I would love to know about my fallacious
past.
696
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Is that what she's implying? I guess so.
697
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,100
Apparently, I spend a lot of time on my
knees.
698
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,480
What did you say?
699
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:52,980
Nothing.
700
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,140
There was a rumor that you were furious
with anybody who was going to shoot with
701
00:35:57,140 --> 00:35:58,140
Jacqueline.
702
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,920
Listen, I let them know I'm not okay
with talking about my family issues, and
703
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,920
that's what I said.
704
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,420
There was no malicious about it, so...
Your family, when I was filmed with her,
705
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,760
was never, ever brought up. Ever. If you
can't handle stuff about your family
706
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,740
being brought up on reality TV, then
maybe you're making the wrong choices.
707
00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:22,930
You're right, and I chose not to come
back while family was on, and that's
708
00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:23,930
exactly why I did that.
709
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:27,250
This show is about mending family and
being together.
710
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:30,150
Both parties have to want it. Right,
exactly.
711
00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:37,590
You never go against
712
00:36:37,590 --> 00:36:40,370
family. That's my thing. You never go
against family.
713
00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:43,790
I think that's how I feel, and I think
if you spoke to Caroline, she also feels
714
00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:44,658
that way.
715
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:48,300
Melissa, I like you. I really do. But
you would not have come on this show.
716
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:49,540
If what?
717
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:53,640
I, you know, I lost my train of thought
already. You just brought that up.
718
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:58,400
No, you, you. Which to me is like
instigating. Here we go again.
719
00:36:58,970 --> 00:37:03,710
I have to say something. Go ahead. I
feel like you try to bring things up and
720
00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:07,130
say things that are negative, just what
you just did. You're saying, I like you.
721
00:37:07,130 --> 00:37:10,870
That's condescending to me. Ask me the
question. Be direct with me. I don't
722
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:15,550
remember. Please remind me. You were
saying that Melissa would not have come
723
00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:17,610
the show if she respected what Teresa
was saying about family.
724
00:37:18,850 --> 00:37:22,670
You were on the show with your sister,
right? Your relationship was not okay
725
00:37:22,670 --> 00:37:23,670
when you signed on.
726
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:26,320
It was. It was. That is, like,
ridiculous.
727
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:30,900
So, done. Fix what's broken before you
come on so America and your parents
728
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,880
have to be... That's who it hurts. It
hurts the parents and the kids. But then
729
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,960
that's your two's fault, then. It ain't
anybody else's fault. I agree. Because
730
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,360
you have to resolve your issues. Because
when we fight, my mother just says, fix
731
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,600
it. Have it out and be done with it. I
love you. That's it. It's over.
732
00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:48,920
You can't with this.
733
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,140
I don't need anybody to feel bad for me.
That's not why I'm bringing this up.
734
00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:54,620
It's just like I kept my mouth shut for
four years.
735
00:37:55,260 --> 00:37:59,200
Jacqueline opened the door by coming
back on the show. Right now, I don't
736
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,780
to make a relationship with Jacqueline.
I don't. And that's okay.
737
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:09,020
I'm a grown adult. I can make decisions
for what makes my life peaceful. And I
738
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,020
don't need the chaos.
739
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:15,240
But do you think you'll ever be able to
get back what you had with your brother?
740
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520
I will say Chris reached out when he
heard I was separated.
741
00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:22,310
He reached out with a text, and I could
not have been happier.
742
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:29,270
He was your best friend, right?
743
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:30,510
Mm -hmm.
744
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:38,630
So, but that lasted all of 15 minutes.
Did you respond? Yes, and we had a
745
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:45,010
planned meet, and I don't want to get
into it, but obviously not
746
00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:47,190
everybody was on the same page with
that.
747
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,300
You will not see what happened between
them play out on television.
748
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:55,060
So maybe if I say my side and my piece,
I don't think I'm hurting anyone. I'm
749
00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:56,060
saying how I feel.
750
00:38:56,340 --> 00:39:00,660
Maybe now it will go away. Maybe now
America will respect my elderly parents
751
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:05,100
enough. And that's how I felt with my
parents. Do you really think they
752
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,120
elderly parents?
753
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,780
Let's not go there. You're probably
right. Honey, forget that dream.
754
00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:12,899
All right.
755
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,200
Kathy and Rosie, thank you very much.
You're welcome. We will be right back.
756
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,340
Joe Gorga, I love you.
757
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:21,980
I love you guys.
758
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Really.
759
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:31,140
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
New Jersey reunion.
760
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,960
We're joined by Melissa's husband and
Teresa's brother, Joe Gorga.
761
00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:42,580
Hi, Joe. Hi, Andy. As well as Teresa's
husband, Joe Giudice. Hey, Joe.
762
00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:43,820
Thanks for being here.
763
00:39:44,060 --> 00:39:45,380
Andy, did you do all the decorating?
764
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:46,720
I did.
765
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,160
You like my place? Yeah.
766
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,439
Thanks, Joe.
767
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Look at Andy's here, hon.
768
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,880
She's trying to get me to do my hair
like yours. What do you think about Joe
769
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,440
Gorga? She's like a bug. No, too short.
I still got my hair, though.
770
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,280
Tilt your head down.
771
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,840
Here's the thing. It looks like you
actually have a full thing. It's very
772
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,500
though, when it comes in. Oh, it's thin
when it comes in? That's the spot. The
773
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:09,319
back spot.
774
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,320
Right.
775
00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:11,640
You made the right decision.
776
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,620
It looks good. It's almost like that
stuff that you spray on the lawn.
777
00:40:15,799 --> 00:40:18,420
No. On the roof.
778
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Okay.
779
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:27,900
Joe Giudice, you and I spoke a few days
ago right after you were sentenced to 41
780
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:31,600
months in prison. How are you processing
all of this?
781
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,160
I don't know. How do you... It's not
like you eat something and you digest
782
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,160
mean, I don't know how you do it.
783
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,720
I guess if you stick a knife in me right
now, I probably won't even feel it.
784
00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:43,040
Teresa, I remember...
785
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:46,670
that you had asked Melissa and Joe not
to come to the sentencing and that you
786
00:40:46,670 --> 00:40:48,890
didn't want your parents there either.
Why is that?
787
00:40:49,290 --> 00:40:53,090
I mean, if I saw my parents there, it
would just break my heart. And I just
788
00:40:53,090 --> 00:40:54,690
didn't want them there.
789
00:40:55,450 --> 00:41:00,550
Because I knew I had to speak in front
of the judge, and then I knew I was
790
00:41:00,550 --> 00:41:01,930
to break down if I saw them.
791
00:41:03,050 --> 00:41:06,390
Curious, I mean, Melissa, what was your
reaction when you heard the sentence?
792
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,060
We were all in shock, obviously.
793
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:12,560
You never think that something like
that's actually going to happen to
794
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,040
you love or someone in your family.
795
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:20,160
I know Joe has been very upset. I can't
imagine how she feels, and I know she
796
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,820
has four daughters, and that's all
everybody really is thinking about.
797
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,080
Joe Gorga, what have you been feeling?
798
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,580
It's been pretty much hell.
799
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,760
It's my sister, it's my brother.
800
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,700
He's not my brother -in -law, he's my
brother.
801
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:38,460
I know him all my life.
802
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:42,780
I can't imagine how I'm feeling and what
they're feeling.
803
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:45,600
You know, it's breaking my heart, so.
804
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,200
What do you want them to know?
805
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,640
That I love you.
806
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,260
I love you guys.
807
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Really.
808
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,820
And it's so hard for me because it's my
sister, you know.
809
00:42:03,860 --> 00:42:04,860
Whatever.
810
00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:06,910
Good to hear from your brother.
811
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:09,370
I said nice to hear from your brother.
812
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:20,910
Next time on part two. Part of your plea
deal was prison time. I didn't
813
00:42:20,910 --> 00:42:24,550
understand. It's a tragedy what you're
going through. But I know the pain and
814
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:28,950
the sickness that you brought on my
mother. Teresa, I read Reno cheated on
815
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:29,950
with a stripper.
816
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,200
Nicole, are you sure Bobby's straight?
817
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,300
You don't like being called out. Let me
do the show by myself, and I'll show you
818
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,000
how tough I am. I would love to see
that.
819
00:42:38,260 --> 00:42:41,020
Okay, okay, you guys shut up. You're 25
years old, sweetheart.
820
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,960
You kind of look like Skeletor over
there. You want to act like a man? Then
821
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,840
you're treated like a man. You're a
scumbag. You are very rude. Put your
822
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,800
down, Joseph. Don't ever repeat about my
sister.
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