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3000.
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We're not getting any oxygen.
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We are in an emergency.
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Modern airliners are among the most
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complex and reliable machines
in common use.
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But occasionally,
delays in fixing a known defect
have led to disaster.
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This is a story of one
of the most terrifying
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and avoidable accidents
in recent history.
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When a 747 suffered
a devastating explosion
at high altitude,
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the crew and passengers faced
an unprecedented crisis.
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It is also a story of how
one family's grief
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led to a relentless
investigation
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to uncover the full,
disturbing truth.
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Lee can't have died
for nothing.
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You know, you've got
to find out why he died
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and you've got to make sure
that it never happens again.
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And it reveals how other known
problems in aircraft design
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have continued
to go uncorrected
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causing further
avoidable accidents.
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So would I be surprised
if it happened again?
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I would be surprised
if it didn't happen again.
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It is a matter of time.
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One of the most shocking cases
of a known design flaw
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being ignored for years
would finally take its toll
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on the United Airlines 747
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bound from Honolulu
to Auckland, New Zealand.
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As flight 811 prepared
for take-off,
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the crew were concerned
with another kind of threat
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that had recently
led to tragedy.
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We were in the aftermath
of Lockarbee.
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And I had instructed the crew
to be particularly aware
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because it was a through flight
from Los Angeles
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going through to New Zealand.
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So in my pre-flight briefing,
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I had asked them to make sure
that they checked any baggage
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that looked suspicious
or anything because we wanted
to be extra cautious.
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Flight 811 was heavily loaded.
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337 passengers,
packed cargo holds,
and a full fuel load.
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The doors closed on time
and the plane left the gate
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just before 2 o'clock
in the morning
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for a routine 8-hour flight.
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Well, we were going
to New Zealand on vacation.
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Someplace that we had really
thought was interesting.
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And somebody had told us how
beautiful it was,
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so this was kind of
a dream come true.
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I was seated in what's
called the upper deck.
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I hadn't had a vacation
in five years
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and I took all my MileagePlus
points from United Airlines
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and I purchased
a business-class ticket
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to Auckland, New Zealand,
and Sydney, Australia.
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I was going to finally
make that dream vacation
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I'd always wanted,
to get to Australia
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and lie on a beach somewhere,
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and forget about airplanes,
forget about accidents
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and get this out of my mind
for a while.
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On the flight deck,
Captain Dave Cronin was
hugely experienced.
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Just two months
short of retirement.
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Rotate.
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I flew almost
35 years with United.
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I've got over 30 000 hours
of flight time
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in just about everything.
Military as well as civilian.
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My co-pilot or first officer
was Al Slaytor.
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And I've known Al at that time
for probably 20 years.
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And the second officer,
Mark Thomas,
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it was the first time
I had flown with him,
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but we got along real well.
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Tell them we can handle 33,
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if it's available.
- Okay.
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The pilots wanted to climb
to 33 000 feet
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above the Pacific Ocean to avoid
turbulence from bad weather.
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We did notice that there
were thunderstorms
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a hundred miles south
right on course,
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which is rather unusual
for that time of night,
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so I left the seat belt sign on.
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Capt Cronin's decision to keep
people fastened in their seats
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would save the lives of many.
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We were still climbing out and
the seatbelt sign was still on.
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And uh... just basically
getting ready
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to serve beverages,
and then to tuck everyone in
for the evening
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because it was going to be a
long flight down to New Zealand.
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Okay, tell them we are going
to detour over to the left.
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Centre?
United 811 heavy.
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We're going to be detouring
over some weather here.
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It will be to the left,
of course.
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100 miles from Honolulu,
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as flight 811 climbed
through 23 000 feet,
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a critical malfunction
was about to occur.
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There was now a huge
air pressure difference
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between the inside and
outside of the aircraft.
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Suddenly, passengers
sitting just above
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and behind the cargo door
heard a noise.
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There was kind of
a grinding noise.
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I heard like a thud.
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What the hell?
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In the next nanosecond,
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it was pure unadulterated
pandemonium.
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- We lost number three.
- Going down.
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It looks like we've lost
number three engine.
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And we are descending rapidly.
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Coming back.
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The next thing I knew,
I found myself on the stairwell
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hanging onto the rungs
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and I immediately knew it was
an explosive decompression.
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The cargo door had torn off
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and ripped a huge section
of the plane with it.
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The pressurized air inside
blasted out
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with explosive force.
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I immediately thought
of Lockarbee.
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We actually thought it was
a bomb that went off.
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It was hell on earth.
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Everything on the airplane
that wasn't fastened down,
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tied down, or secured
became airborne.
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The noise was incredible.
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Everything in front
of us was gone.
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Where we were sitting,
we were about six inches
from the hole.
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So, there was nothing in front
of us or to the side of us.
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The whole side
of the plane was gone.
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Actually, our feet were dangling
on the hole.
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And I first thought
we weren't going to make it.
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I just didn't think
there was any hope.
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With the pressurized air
blown out,
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the lack of oxygen
at 23 000 feet
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was now suffocating
the passengers and the crew.
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It felt like someone
had kicked me in the stomach.
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Knocked the wind out of me.
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And I remember trying to catch
my breath...
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and couldn't.
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We were re supposed
to grab those oxygen masks
and put them on.
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Except those oxygen masks
in that cabin,
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they were ripped out of the
ceiling and they weren't there.
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And... I remember
thinking to myself:
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"This is what it feels like
to suffocate."
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United 811 heavy.
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We are doing
an emergency decent.
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The pilots could tell
from their instruments
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that the number 3 engine
was failing,
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but they couldn't tell
the full extent of the damage.
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Their priority was to get
the plane down to a level
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where they could
breathe normally.
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Put your mask on, Dave.
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But the pilots didn't know
that the explosion
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had destroyed the entire
oxygen supply.
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Can't get any oxygen.
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We're not getting any oxygen.
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You getting any?
- I can't get any either.
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With the plane heading
steeply down
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and no word
from the cockpit,
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the cabin crew feared the worst.
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I remember thinking
that the cockpit,
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which is in the upper deck,
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had probably blown off
the airplane too.
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Because as far up as we could
see, there was nothing there.
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Now we're doing this...
nose dive,
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my next thought was:
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Oh my God, we're just
going straight down.
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We're just going to crash
into the sea."
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With its airframe ruptured,
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severe damage to the right wing
and engines
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and the crew forcing it down
in an emergency decent,
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the problems on Flight 811
had only just begun.
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Two minutes after suffering
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a devastating
explosive decompression,
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Flight 811 was still
in a steep emergency decent
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passing rapidly
through 15 000 feet
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to reach breathable air.
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United 811 heavy.
State your altitude now.
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Even 15.
United 811 heavy.
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We're on a 15.5.
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United 811. Roger.
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I think we blew a door
or something.
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Tell the flight attendant to
get prepared for an evacuation.
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The crew finally began to
level out at a safer altitude.
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But they now faced
a barrage of problems.
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The most immediate was
the disintegration
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of the number 3 engine
nearest to the explosion.
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We don't have any
fire indications?
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I... I don't have anything.
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Okay, we lost number 3.
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Let's shut it down.
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Yeah, okay.
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Ready for number 3.
Shut down checklist.
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Number 3...
Before you shut down number 3,
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the generator went off.
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It looks alright to try it now.
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Well, that stopped
the vibration anyway.
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Fuel jettison procedure.
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Main boost pumps. On.
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Centre.
United 811.
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We need the equipment
standing by,
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company notified please.
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We got a control problem.
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Centre wing,
left right valves, on.
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- Start dumping the fuel.
- I am dumping.
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One stewardess
had been seriously injured
by falling debris.
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As Laura Brentlinger helped her,
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the full gravity of their
situation suddenly became clear.
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As I am holding her
in my arms,
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I looked up and as I looked up,
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that was the first time
I saw this tremendous hole
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on the side of the aircraft
that was just a void,
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and seats were missing
and I immediately knew
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that we had lost passengers.
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Five rows of seats
had been blown out
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in the decompression,
killing nine passengers.
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On the flight deck,
the crew had turned
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the stricken plane
back to Honolulu,
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but with 80 miles still to go,
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the crisis now got far worse.
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We got a helluva
control problem here.
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I got almost full rudder
on this thing.
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Are you dumping
as fast as you can?
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I'm dumping everything.
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We got a problem
with number 4 engine?
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Yeah.
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Debris from the explosion
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had also damaged
the number 4 engine.
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If it fell completely,
the implications were severe.
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If you're on two engines
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and you weigh 700 pounds,
that is a big deal.
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Simply because with
that kind of weight,
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two engines are not going
to keep you in the air.
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You are going to come down.
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- Can you maintain 240?
- Just barely.
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We're losing altitude.
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I know it.
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Centre.
United 811 heavy.
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Do you have a fix on us?
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Affirmative, sir,
I have you on radar.
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Okay, we've lost engine
number 3
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and we don't have full power
on engine number 4.
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We can't hold altitude
right now.
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We're dumping fuel so...
811 heavy, roger.
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I see you're 60 miles south
of Honolulu at this time.
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Roger.
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I haven't talked
to anybody yet.
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I can't get to them.
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You want me to go downstairs
and take a look?
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Yeah, let's see what's
happening down there.
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I think we lost
a compressor, but--
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Can't hold...
can't hold altitude.
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- I told them that--
- Get some axe on there.
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I got to take off power
on this thing.
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Whatever you need, Captain.
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Although their number 4 engine
was failing,
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the pilots pushed it,
along with the remaining
engines to full power.
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A setting they should
not be running for more
than four minutes.
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But the nearest land
was 50 minutes away.
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I look out the window
on the right-hand side
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and I see flames, big flames.
250
00:13:19,137 --> 00:13:21,344
And I know what flames
in an engine means.
251
00:13:21,448 --> 00:13:22,551
It's not good.
252
00:13:22,655 --> 00:13:24,103
The pilots were unaware
253
00:13:24,206 --> 00:13:26,655
that the number 4 engine
was now on fire.
254
00:13:26,758 --> 00:13:29,172
You've got 250 knots now,
that's good.
255
00:13:29,275 --> 00:13:30,862
7000...
256
00:13:30,965 --> 00:13:32,689
Yeah. We're getting
more rumble.
257
00:13:32,793 --> 00:13:34,137
Watch your heading,
watch your heading,
258
00:13:34,241 --> 00:13:35,862
you want to go direct
to Honolulu.
259
00:13:35,965 --> 00:13:37,172
Okay. I'm gonna go downstairs
260
00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:38,482
and see what the hell
is going on.
261
00:13:38,586 --> 00:13:41,034
Go ahead and run down
and see what's happening.
262
00:13:42,448 --> 00:13:46,724
I saw the flight engineer
descend down the stairwell.
263
00:13:47,793 --> 00:13:50,310
And when I saw him,
my relief was:
264
00:13:50,413 --> 00:13:52,172
"Oh my God,
they're alive."
265
00:13:52,275 --> 00:13:54,655
And there was a huge sense
of relief for me.
266
00:13:54,758 --> 00:13:58,517
He saw the hole and turned
as white as a sheet.
267
00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:02,034
And I screamed to him:
"Dear God, please get us down."
268
00:14:03,655 --> 00:14:05,379
We got a fire out there.
269
00:14:05,482 --> 00:14:07,724
Oh yeah.
We got a fire on number 4.
270
00:14:07,827 --> 00:14:09,551
Go through the procedure.
271
00:14:09,655 --> 00:14:11,034
Shut down the engine.
272
00:14:11,137 --> 00:14:13,344
We're not gonna be able
to hold this altitude on two.
273
00:14:19,965 --> 00:14:21,827
We got a fire
on the right side.
274
00:14:22,448 --> 00:14:23,689
We're on two engines now.
275
00:14:23,793 --> 00:14:25,275
The whole right side
is just gone
276
00:14:25,379 --> 00:14:28,034
from about the one right back
to uh... It's just open.
277
00:14:28,137 --> 00:14:29,620
You're just looking outside.
278
00:14:29,724 --> 00:14:31,793
- What do you mean?
- It looks like a bomb.
279
00:14:31,896 --> 00:14:33,344
- Fuselage?
- Yeah, the fuselage.
280
00:14:33,448 --> 00:14:34,586
It's just...
It's just open.
281
00:14:38,241 --> 00:14:40,275
Okay, it looks like
we've got a bomb
282
00:14:40,379 --> 00:14:42,379
that went off on the right side.
283
00:14:42,482 --> 00:14:44,310
The whole right side is gone.
284
00:14:44,413 --> 00:14:46,965
Yeah, from about the one
right back to uh...
285
00:14:47,068 --> 00:14:48,413
Anybody...
286
00:14:49,758 --> 00:14:51,931
Some people are probably gone,
I don't know.
287
00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:57,896
I knew that we had
lost people.
288
00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,862
I didn't know how many.
289
00:14:59,965 --> 00:15:02,896
In fact, I didn't know
until the next day
290
00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,689
how many were lost.
291
00:15:04,793 --> 00:15:06,137
But...
292
00:15:07,793 --> 00:15:09,758
You know, it's a terrible thing
293
00:15:09,862 --> 00:15:11,137
when you're a captain
of an airplane
294
00:15:11,241 --> 00:15:12,862
and you lose passengers.
295
00:15:20,413 --> 00:15:22,965
Lee Campbell flying home
to New Zealand
296
00:15:23,068 --> 00:15:26,793
was sitting in row 10
just in front of the cargo door.
297
00:15:28,172 --> 00:15:30,965
I woke up with such a start
298
00:15:31,068 --> 00:15:34,862
because I had seen Lee
standing by the bed.
299
00:15:34,965 --> 00:15:38,103
Just with a gray jacket
over his arm
300
00:15:38,206 --> 00:15:40,275
and a small smile
on his face.
301
00:15:40,379 --> 00:15:43,620
Of course as I woke up,
it had faded. He was not there.
302
00:15:43,724 --> 00:15:47,103
And when we woke up in
the morning, we discussed this.
303
00:15:47,206 --> 00:15:49,827
I said, it was strange,
in the night.
304
00:15:49,931 --> 00:15:55,103
It was such a vivid dream,
Lee was standing there.
305
00:15:56,172 --> 00:15:59,448
And then, the radio came on
306
00:15:59,551 --> 00:16:01,413
and the first item of news
307
00:16:01,517 --> 00:16:04,724
was that there'd been a problem
with the United aircraft.
308
00:16:05,724 --> 00:16:09,206
And I said, that was Lee.
That's Lee's.
309
00:16:09,310 --> 00:16:11,206
And my blood just ran cold.
310
00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,241
I knew he was dead
from that moment.
311
00:16:19,862 --> 00:16:21,344
Centre, do you read?
312
00:16:21,448 --> 00:16:23,620
We evidently had a bomb
or something.
313
00:16:23,724 --> 00:16:26,275
A big section of the right side
of the airplane is missing.
314
00:16:27,275 --> 00:16:28,689
United 811
heavy, roger.
315
00:16:28,793 --> 00:16:30,517
I wouldn't go any faster
than I had to.
316
00:16:30,620 --> 00:16:34,275
Because that pull... I mean,
I wouldn't get it over 250 knots
317
00:16:34,379 --> 00:16:37,103
because that's a big--
- Okay. What's our stall speed?
318
00:16:37,206 --> 00:16:39,241
- I wouldn't go below 240.
- Yeah.
319
00:16:40,413 --> 00:16:42,206
I don't know if we're
going to make this.
320
00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:44,896
We didn't know that we were
going to make it back.
321
00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,068
So we were actually preparing
to ditch that plane at night
322
00:16:49,172 --> 00:16:53,068
in the Pacific Ocean which has
never been done before.
323
00:16:54,137 --> 00:16:57,000
In the cabin, the crew
prepared for the worst.
324
00:16:57,103 --> 00:17:01,137
My training kicked in
and I got up from my jump seat
325
00:17:01,241 --> 00:17:04,413
and started instructing the crew
326
00:17:04,517 --> 00:17:06,793
that we have to prepare
the cabin.
327
00:17:06,896 --> 00:17:09,448
We have to... prepare
for a ditching
328
00:17:09,551 --> 00:17:11,689
which I thought was inevitable.
329
00:17:15,206 --> 00:17:17,103
We were running around
getting life vests on
330
00:17:17,206 --> 00:17:18,793
and I do remember thinking:
331
00:17:18,896 --> 00:17:20,862
"I am not sure this is
going to matter
332
00:17:20,965 --> 00:17:23,379
because when we hit the water,
333
00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:27,103
you know, I just imagine the
plane is going to split apart."
334
00:17:30,379 --> 00:17:32,310
I knew that if
we hit the water,
335
00:17:32,413 --> 00:17:34,068
it would be tantamount
to hitting the ground
336
00:17:34,172 --> 00:17:36,379
and there would be very few
if any survivors,
337
00:17:36,482 --> 00:17:39,000
so my mind went to...
338
00:17:43,275 --> 00:17:45,758
...the things that meant
something to me
339
00:17:45,862 --> 00:17:48,137
and at that point
in my life, it was my son.
340
00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:52,034
Believing they were
going to die,
341
00:17:52,137 --> 00:17:54,206
one passenger took
these photographs,
342
00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:56,172
in the hope they'd be found
in the wreckage
343
00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:58,758
and give clues
to the cause of the crash.
344
00:17:59,551 --> 00:18:02,551
For 15 minutes, the plane
steadily lost altitude.
345
00:18:02,655 --> 00:18:06,896
Then, at 4000 feet,
the first glimmer of hope.
346
00:18:07,896 --> 00:18:11,034
After an imponderable time,
I remember,
347
00:18:11,137 --> 00:18:13,758
one of the passengers
began to point
348
00:18:13,862 --> 00:18:16,344
out one of the windows
on the right side.
349
00:18:16,448 --> 00:18:18,034
And everybody looked
350
00:18:18,137 --> 00:18:19,862
and we looked through
this little window
351
00:18:19,965 --> 00:18:20,965
from wherever we were,
352
00:18:21,068 --> 00:18:23,344
and we could see
a point of light.
353
00:18:24,344 --> 00:18:26,413
And another point of light,
and another point...
354
00:18:26,517 --> 00:18:28,586
And pretty soon, you could
make out a coastline.
355
00:18:28,689 --> 00:18:30,379
Okay, I got lights over here.
356
00:18:30,965 --> 00:18:32,068
Okay.
357
00:18:32,620 --> 00:18:33,724
Okay.
358
00:18:33,827 --> 00:18:37,000
We're at 4, we're 21 miles out.
359
00:18:37,103 --> 00:18:38,551
We're in good shape.
360
00:18:40,586 --> 00:18:43,000
At Honolulu airport,
an emergency was declared.
361
00:18:43,103 --> 00:18:45,379
All other aircraft
were diverted
362
00:18:45,482 --> 00:18:48,034
and the rescue services
prepared for the crash landing
363
00:18:48,137 --> 00:18:49,793
of a fully loaded airliner.
364
00:18:55,758 --> 00:18:57,275
You want to give me
some speeds?
365
00:18:57,379 --> 00:18:58,586
Yeah.
366
00:18:59,448 --> 00:19:01,931
150 is going to be
your 2 engine.
367
00:19:03,482 --> 00:19:05,034
Use 160.
368
00:19:05,137 --> 00:19:06,689
I need souls on board
if you have it?
369
00:19:06,793 --> 00:19:09,034
Okay, souls on board.
370
00:19:09,137 --> 00:19:11,896
- 160 is the minimum.
- Standby, United 811 heavy.
371
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,620
I don't know how many
are on board.
372
00:19:13,724 --> 00:19:17,965
200 and uh... I don't have the
paperwork in front of me here.
373
00:19:18,068 --> 00:19:20,482
Uh, we're too busy right now.
374
00:19:20,586 --> 00:19:22,275
200 and something.
375
00:19:22,379 --> 00:19:23,586
Okay.
376
00:19:23,689 --> 00:19:25,379
Six minutes from the airport.
377
00:19:25,482 --> 00:19:29,172
The crew now had to slow the
overweight plane for landing.
378
00:19:29,275 --> 00:19:31,586
But the effect of this
was unknown.
379
00:19:34,793 --> 00:19:36,965
What's going to happen
when I start coming out
380
00:19:37,068 --> 00:19:40,137
with flaps and landing gear,
381
00:19:40,241 --> 00:19:43,103
we're either going to land
on the airport,
382
00:19:43,206 --> 00:19:46,034
in the water
or downtown Honolulu.
383
00:19:49,551 --> 00:19:50,862
Okay, we'll try ten.
384
00:19:52,206 --> 00:19:53,620
Okay, inboards
are coming at ten.
385
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:55,827
How do the controls feel?
386
00:19:57,344 --> 00:19:59,000
Alright, so far.
387
00:20:01,379 --> 00:20:04,310
But the flaps were damaged
and could not fully extend.
388
00:20:04,413 --> 00:20:06,034
This meant that flight 811
389
00:20:06,137 --> 00:20:08,413
would have to land
dangerously fast.
390
00:20:11,931 --> 00:20:13,551
United 811 heavy.
391
00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,344
Do you have the airport
in sight?
392
00:20:15,448 --> 00:20:17,068
It's over here
to the right, Captain.
393
00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,517
- Okay.
- Okay, we have the airport.
394
00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:21,068
United 811 heavy.
395
00:20:22,448 --> 00:20:25,310
811 is cleared
to land 8 left.
396
00:20:25,413 --> 00:20:26,965
Equipment standing by.
397
00:20:27,068 --> 00:20:29,448
Wind is 0-5-0-1-2.
398
00:20:30,344 --> 00:20:31,827
Clear to land.
399
00:20:31,931 --> 00:20:34,689
8 left.
United 811 heavy.
400
00:20:35,862 --> 00:20:39,068
As the unstable 747
lined up for landing,
401
00:20:39,172 --> 00:20:42,068
the pilots knew they would
only have one attempt.
402
00:20:42,172 --> 00:20:44,413
But even if they got it
on the runway,
403
00:20:44,517 --> 00:20:46,586
the nagging question remained:
404
00:20:46,689 --> 00:20:49,172
would the stress of impact
cause the damaged
405
00:20:49,275 --> 00:20:52,068
and overweight aircraft
to disintegrate?
406
00:20:56,655 --> 00:20:59,586
Severely damaged
with an unstable airframe
407
00:20:59,689 --> 00:21:02,310
and losing altitude
on just two engines,
408
00:21:02,413 --> 00:21:06,724
Flight 811 now began its final
approach to Honolulu airport.
409
00:21:07,758 --> 00:21:09,275
Two engine approach.
410
00:21:09,379 --> 00:21:11,551
Two engine approach.
411
00:21:13,241 --> 00:21:15,551
We still had no idea
how far off the ground we were,
412
00:21:15,655 --> 00:21:17,413
if we were going to make it
to Honolulu or not.
413
00:21:17,517 --> 00:21:19,758
But that seemed like
an appropriate time
414
00:21:19,862 --> 00:21:21,310
if we were somewhere
around land,
415
00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:23,034
that we're probably going
to try and land somewhere,
416
00:21:23,137 --> 00:21:26,413
to get the passengers
in their brace positions.
417
00:21:26,517 --> 00:21:28,137
So that's when
we started yelling
418
00:21:28,241 --> 00:21:30,275
for them to get down
in their brace positions.
419
00:21:36,103 --> 00:21:41,103
Every molecule in my body
combined to express:
420
00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:46,379
Get this damn airplane
on the ground.
421
00:21:46,482 --> 00:21:48,551
How we doing
on the hydraulics?
422
00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:51,551
Hydraulics are... good.
423
00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:52,758
Have we got brakes?
424
00:21:54,172 --> 00:21:56,000
Normal hydraulics.
425
00:21:56,103 --> 00:21:59,344
So, we've got brakes, but
we're only going to have
426
00:21:59,448 --> 00:22:01,344
reversing on one and two.
427
00:22:03,068 --> 00:22:04,862
Though I thought
maybe there was a chance
428
00:22:04,965 --> 00:22:07,551
that we were going to actually
be able to attempt to land,
429
00:22:07,655 --> 00:22:09,379
the thought came to my mind:
430
00:22:09,482 --> 00:22:13,931
"What happens now, on impact,
do we explode?
431
00:22:14,034 --> 00:22:17,172
Do we fall off this huge hole?"
432
00:22:18,172 --> 00:22:19,724
Despite dumping fuel,
433
00:22:19,827 --> 00:22:22,000
the aircraft was still
critically overweight.
434
00:22:22,103 --> 00:22:24,517
But without full flaps
to keep it in the air,
435
00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:26,172
it had to approach fast.
436
00:22:26,931 --> 00:22:28,000
1000 down.
437
00:22:28,103 --> 00:22:29,655
The danger was that
the under carriage
438
00:22:29,758 --> 00:22:31,965
could shear off
and the plane break up.
439
00:22:33,551 --> 00:22:34,620
A dot and half high.
440
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:39,931
190...
441
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,551
185...
442
00:22:49,344 --> 00:22:51,379
A little slow,
a little slow, Dave.
443
00:22:51,482 --> 00:22:53,000
It's below what we want.
444
00:22:59,206 --> 00:23:01,137
Coming up on the glide slope.
445
00:23:03,896 --> 00:23:05,172
Okay.
446
00:23:05,275 --> 00:23:06,655
Now, let's try the gear.
447
00:23:09,206 --> 00:23:12,482
No one knew if the explosion
had damaged the landing gear.
448
00:23:13,413 --> 00:23:14,689
I remember Laura saying to me
449
00:23:14,793 --> 00:23:16,482
that she didn't hear
the landing gear go down.
450
00:23:16,586 --> 00:23:18,793
And it was loud.
It was still loud.
451
00:23:18,896 --> 00:23:20,758
And I didn't hear
the landing gear go down.
452
00:23:20,862 --> 00:23:22,241
So that's another thought:
453
00:23:22,344 --> 00:23:24,000
"Maybe they can't get their
landing gear down.
454
00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:25,241
Maybe it's not down."
455
00:23:27,413 --> 00:23:28,724
I've got...
456
00:23:29,551 --> 00:23:31,379
Gear down
and we're clear to land
457
00:23:31,482 --> 00:23:33,241
and everything is taken care of,
as far as we know.
458
00:23:40,103 --> 00:23:41,172
200.
459
00:23:43,586 --> 00:23:44,724
195.
460
00:23:48,793 --> 00:23:50,275
Half a dot high.
461
00:23:53,551 --> 00:23:55,137
Looking... Looking good.
462
00:23:57,379 --> 00:23:58,620
192.
463
00:24:02,413 --> 00:24:03,413
195.
464
00:24:03,517 --> 00:24:04,896
I'm off on the power.
465
00:24:07,931 --> 00:24:09,068
100 feet.
466
00:24:14,896 --> 00:24:16,000
50 feet.
467
00:24:21,344 --> 00:24:23,241
Set other trim.
Set other trim.
468
00:24:26,379 --> 00:24:27,517
30...
469
00:24:29,344 --> 00:24:30,758
10...
470
00:24:34,172 --> 00:24:35,275
Zero.
471
00:24:36,413 --> 00:24:37,965
We're on.
472
00:24:41,862 --> 00:24:43,655
Gear's holding.
473
00:24:45,034 --> 00:24:47,068
We landed. It felt fast.
474
00:24:47,172 --> 00:24:48,689
And that was my next concern,
475
00:24:48,793 --> 00:24:50,758
that we weren't going to stop
at the end of the runway,
476
00:24:50,862 --> 00:24:52,448
that we were just going
to keep going.
477
00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:05,482
And all of a sudden,
we were slowing down,
478
00:25:05,586 --> 00:25:08,896
slowing down and I said,
479
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,689
"Oh my God, we've landed,
we're on the ground.
480
00:25:11,793 --> 00:25:14,517
And the people
started applauding.
481
00:25:24,413 --> 00:25:27,310
Probably the best landing
I've ever made.
482
00:25:27,413 --> 00:25:30,482
When we finally stopped
on the runway,
483
00:25:30,586 --> 00:25:33,137
we deployed all the ten shoots
484
00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:37,620
and the flight attendants
evacuated all the passengers.
485
00:25:38,793 --> 00:25:41,103
It's amazing how fast
everyone went.
486
00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:43,586
My understanding is that
in less than 45 seconds,
487
00:25:43,689 --> 00:25:46,310
330 people were
off the airplane.
488
00:25:48,275 --> 00:25:50,103
We were probably
20 feet off the ground
489
00:25:50,206 --> 00:25:52,241
and I would have stepped out of
that airplane without a slide.
490
00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:54,034
I wanted to get off so bad.
491
00:25:54,137 --> 00:25:56,827
Fortunately, there was a slide,
I stepped into the abyss,
492
00:25:56,931 --> 00:26:00,344
fell into the slide, whooshed
down to the bottom of the thing.
493
00:26:00,448 --> 00:26:04,103
And then, you hit, feet running.
494
00:26:05,206 --> 00:26:06,965
The slide kind of kicked me up
495
00:26:07,068 --> 00:26:09,862
and flew me up into the air
and my thought was:
496
00:26:09,965 --> 00:26:12,206
"Oh my God, I am going
to survive this whole thing
497
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:13,896
and I am going to get
wiped out here
498
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,241
on the evacuation,"
because it just really threw me.
499
00:26:17,344 --> 00:26:20,724
And I landed and scraped up
my legs pretty badly
500
00:26:20,827 --> 00:26:23,862
and landed on my feet
and it wasn't until that moment
501
00:26:23,965 --> 00:26:25,862
that I had the sense of,
502
00:26:25,965 --> 00:26:28,862
"I am here. I'm okay.
I'm on the ground."
503
00:26:31,586 --> 00:26:35,103
When we got
all our switches off,
504
00:26:35,206 --> 00:26:37,586
I ran through the airplane
to make sure there was
505
00:26:37,689 --> 00:26:40,793
no one else on the airplane,
came up to the door one left,
506
00:26:40,896 --> 00:26:43,724
I went down the slide
and came around the front
507
00:26:43,827 --> 00:26:45,448
and I saw that humungous hole
508
00:26:45,551 --> 00:26:47,965
on the side and I just
couldn't believe it.
509
00:27:01,724 --> 00:27:03,344
By the grace of God, we made it.
510
00:27:03,448 --> 00:27:05,517
And it was
an awesome experience.
511
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:07,655
I would never want to go
through that again.
512
00:27:11,689 --> 00:27:14,103
It was crazy, it was wild,
513
00:27:14,206 --> 00:27:17,517
it was scary
all at the same time.
514
00:27:20,758 --> 00:27:21,862
Um...
515
00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:25,344
I just thought
that that was the end
516
00:27:25,448 --> 00:27:26,827
and we were going to die.
517
00:27:26,931 --> 00:27:30,275
I mean, that was my first
thought, that this is the end.
518
00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:41,758
But for the families
of the nine people
519
00:27:41,862 --> 00:27:43,448
who were killed,
520
00:27:43,551 --> 00:27:46,172
the ordeal was only beginning.
521
00:27:46,275 --> 00:27:49,965
Kevin and Susan Campbell's son,
Lee, had been flying home.
522
00:27:50,793 --> 00:27:53,344
About 3 o'clock
in the afternoon,
523
00:27:53,448 --> 00:27:57,586
I think they said that there was
no New Zealanders involved,
524
00:27:57,689 --> 00:28:01,034
but we just knew
that it was Lee.
525
00:28:01,137 --> 00:28:04,482
And then, about, I suppose,
a quarter of an hour later,
526
00:28:04,586 --> 00:28:07,206
we got a phone call from Chicago
527
00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:10,172
and they just said that
they regret to inform us
528
00:28:10,275 --> 00:28:12,724
that our son was missing,
presumed dead.
529
00:28:13,517 --> 00:28:16,793
And I guess about
another hour after that,
530
00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:19,000
a policeman arrived at the door
531
00:28:19,103 --> 00:28:21,034
and he took one look at us
and he says:
532
00:28:21,137 --> 00:28:22,827
"I can see that
you've had the news."
533
00:28:23,931 --> 00:28:28,413
So um... it was just
an awful, awful day.
534
00:28:29,965 --> 00:28:34,551
And it certainly
didn't get much better
for a long, long time.
535
00:28:40,586 --> 00:28:43,068
Although Lee's body
had not been recovered,
536
00:28:43,172 --> 00:28:44,620
the Campbells' flew straight
537
00:28:44,724 --> 00:28:46,758
to the wrecked aircraft
in Honolulu.
538
00:28:47,482 --> 00:28:51,379
Your initial feeling is that
you want to be as close
539
00:28:51,482 --> 00:28:55,413
to the spot
where your relative died.
540
00:28:56,724 --> 00:28:58,034
And that was the aircraft.
541
00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:03,448
So we had to immediately go
and see the aircraft.
542
00:29:04,379 --> 00:29:06,379
The damage inside
was horrific.
543
00:29:06,482 --> 00:29:09,413
Just... a total mess.
544
00:29:09,517 --> 00:29:11,034
And the hole in the side
of the aircraft
545
00:29:11,137 --> 00:29:14,068
was much bigger than
I had thought it would be,
546
00:29:14,172 --> 00:29:17,965
even though we had seen
television newsreel reports.
547
00:29:19,344 --> 00:29:20,862
And it was so sad to get in
548
00:29:20,965 --> 00:29:23,724
and actually see where Lee's
seat had been.
549
00:29:23,827 --> 00:29:26,310
The legs of the seat
were still there.
550
00:29:26,413 --> 00:29:28,896
There was a good bit
of fuselage beside him.
551
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,724
And still a window.
552
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:36,344
But the Campbell's desire
to find the cause of Lee's death
553
00:29:36,448 --> 00:29:40,482
inevitably brought them face
to face with dreadful details.
554
00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:44,689
They took us to the medical
examiner's office as well...
555
00:29:44,793 --> 00:29:48,068
because they had found body
parts and that sort of thing.
556
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:50,758
So...
557
00:29:52,068 --> 00:29:53,827
They didn't actually show us
the body parts,
558
00:29:53,931 --> 00:29:55,275
but they showed us
bits and pieces
559
00:29:55,379 --> 00:29:57,137
they had recovered
from the engines.
560
00:29:57,241 --> 00:30:00,862
And we got
the medical examiner's report
561
00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:03,137
on what they had recovered.
562
00:30:03,827 --> 00:30:07,034
So, we really would have
preferred that it was Lee
563
00:30:07,137 --> 00:30:08,206
that went through the engine
564
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:10,310
because it would have been
an immediate death,
565
00:30:10,413 --> 00:30:13,137
whereas it was a four-minute
fall down to the ocean
566
00:30:13,241 --> 00:30:15,482
and we know that the people
could have been alive
567
00:30:15,586 --> 00:30:17,137
as they were falling,
568
00:30:17,241 --> 00:30:19,827
and when you think about that,
that is just horrific.
569
00:30:20,965 --> 00:30:24,655
As it became clear
that their son's body
would never be found,
570
00:30:24,758 --> 00:30:27,655
the Campbells' need to find
the cause of the accident
571
00:30:27,758 --> 00:30:30,000
that killed him grew stronger.
572
00:30:31,586 --> 00:30:33,482
Lee can't have died
for nothing.
573
00:30:33,586 --> 00:30:36,137
You've got to find out
why he died.
574
00:30:36,241 --> 00:30:40,241
And you just gotta make sure
that it never happens again.
575
00:30:43,655 --> 00:30:45,862
The Campbells embarked
on a relentless
576
00:30:45,965 --> 00:30:49,482
personal investigation that
would last nearly two years.
577
00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:53,172
The loss of their son
meant they would stop at nothing
to uncover the truth.
578
00:30:57,689 --> 00:31:00,482
The engines number
three and four...
579
00:31:00,586 --> 00:31:03,655
Two months after the accident
on Flight 811,
580
00:31:03,758 --> 00:31:06,275
when the National Transportation
Safety Board
581
00:31:06,379 --> 00:31:07,793
held preliminary hearings,
582
00:31:07,896 --> 00:31:10,275
the Campbells made sure
they were there.
583
00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:12,517
But they soon grew frustrated.
584
00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:16,034
The NTSB would not complete
its report for months.
585
00:31:16,137 --> 00:31:19,206
So the Campbells took matters
into their own hands.
586
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:21,896
We certainly weren't going
to leave it to the NTSB
587
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,172
to come up with the findings,
we were going to follow through.
588
00:31:25,275 --> 00:31:27,862
And when the hearings ended,
they had said that we could take
589
00:31:27,965 --> 00:31:29,689
whatever we wanted
off the press table
590
00:31:29,793 --> 00:31:33,206
and Susan walked up
to the top table and said:
591
00:31:33,310 --> 00:31:35,862
"Oh, there's a really good
set up here."
592
00:31:35,965 --> 00:31:38,241
So, grabbed a box
593
00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:42,275
and loaded all of the documents
we could find up there.
594
00:31:42,379 --> 00:31:45,034
Kevin's the most honest
of people, I know,
595
00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:47,068
but here he was taking something
596
00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:50,793
that we hadn't specifically
been told we could take.
597
00:31:51,482 --> 00:31:53,758
And we were heading out
the door, just as the NTSB
598
00:31:53,862 --> 00:31:57,034
were arriving back in
with a trolley to pick up
all the documents.
599
00:31:57,137 --> 00:32:00,275
So we were out the door
and into a taxi and gone.
600
00:32:05,482 --> 00:32:07,275
So we quickly realized
601
00:32:07,379 --> 00:32:09,344
we had got a really good
set of papers.
602
00:32:09,448 --> 00:32:12,517
With a lot of things
that hadn't been released
to the public.
603
00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:15,206
We were able to really start
our investigation
604
00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:17,517
in earnest at that stage.
605
00:32:19,206 --> 00:32:20,931
The unpublished documents
606
00:32:21,034 --> 00:32:23,034
revealed a disturbing
catalogue of problems
607
00:32:23,137 --> 00:32:24,724
with the forward cargo door,
608
00:32:24,827 --> 00:32:27,655
going right back
to its original design.
609
00:32:31,896 --> 00:32:36,551
Instead of a plugged door
that gets jammed into its frame
as the aircraft pressurizes,
610
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:39,413
Boeing opted for
an outward opening door.
611
00:32:39,517 --> 00:32:41,758
This allowed
for more cargo space,
612
00:32:41,862 --> 00:32:44,551
but was not fail-safe
like the plug design.
613
00:32:44,655 --> 00:32:46,724
So Boeing built
what they believed
614
00:32:46,827 --> 00:32:49,586
was a fool-proof
locking mechanism.
615
00:32:49,689 --> 00:32:52,103
What they do is they built in
multiple redundancies
616
00:32:52,206 --> 00:32:54,586
to make sure the door
is properly latched
617
00:32:54,689 --> 00:32:56,517
and does not open.
618
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:59,413
And you build it in to a point
619
00:32:59,517 --> 00:33:04,103
that is extremely improbable
that the door would ever open.
620
00:33:07,344 --> 00:33:09,724
So what went wrong
on Flight 811?
621
00:33:11,137 --> 00:33:13,379
The Campbells soon discovered
that the problem
622
00:33:13,482 --> 00:33:15,862
lay in the design
of the locking mechanism.
623
00:33:17,103 --> 00:33:19,655
To lock the cargo door
on the 747,
624
00:33:19,758 --> 00:33:22,413
electric motors rotate
C-shaped latches
625
00:33:22,517 --> 00:33:24,517
around pins in the door frame.
626
00:33:25,137 --> 00:33:28,655
A handle then moves arms
known as locking sectors
627
00:33:28,758 --> 00:33:32,655
over top of the C-latches to
prevent them from re-opening.
628
00:33:33,482 --> 00:33:35,620
But as early as 1975,
629
00:33:35,724 --> 00:33:38,862
problems were found with
the locking sectors.
630
00:33:40,275 --> 00:33:43,034
Kevin Campbell,
an engineer by training,
631
00:33:43,137 --> 00:33:46,310
built a model to show the
weakness in the Boeing design.
632
00:33:46,413 --> 00:33:49,758
Initially, the locking sectors
were made in aluminum,
633
00:33:49,862 --> 00:33:53,724
and in 1975, Boeing realized
that they weren't strong enough.
634
00:33:53,827 --> 00:33:55,827
And they actually doubled up
the aluminum
635
00:33:55,931 --> 00:33:57,758
to make it double thickness.
636
00:33:57,862 --> 00:34:00,310
But it still wasn't
strong enough
637
00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:01,862
and a lot of the airlines
638
00:34:01,965 --> 00:34:03,655
didn't even put
the doublers on anyway.
639
00:34:04,551 --> 00:34:06,068
The weakness of the aluminum
640
00:34:06,172 --> 00:34:07,724
drastically increased the risk
641
00:34:07,827 --> 00:34:09,689
of the door
accidentally opening.
642
00:34:10,344 --> 00:34:12,827
With the aluminum
locking sectors,
643
00:34:12,931 --> 00:34:16,482
if the C-locks tried
to back wind,
644
00:34:16,586 --> 00:34:18,206
open electrically,
645
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:21,344
it would just push the locking
sector out of the way.
646
00:34:22,448 --> 00:34:25,620
It simply wasn't up to the job
it was designed for.
647
00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:31,103
For 20 years,
747s have been flying
648
00:34:31,206 --> 00:34:33,137
with this crucial weakness.
649
00:34:40,931 --> 00:34:44,344
The Campbells wondered what else
remained to be revealed.
650
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,862
They redoubled their efforts
to uncover the full truth
651
00:34:47,965 --> 00:34:50,586
behind the accident
that had killed their son.
652
00:34:51,551 --> 00:34:54,793
We bought a car and set off
in the United States
653
00:34:54,896 --> 00:34:59,965
to see as many people
who were involved with the
accident as possible.
654
00:35:00,068 --> 00:35:04,034
We started at Seattle,
down to Denver,
655
00:35:04,137 --> 00:35:08,724
across to Chicago,
through to Washington DC,
656
00:35:08,827 --> 00:35:12,068
down to Kentucky, on to Miami,
657
00:35:12,172 --> 00:35:15,862
and back across to San Diego,
658
00:35:15,965 --> 00:35:19,620
back up through San Francisco
and back to Seattle.
659
00:35:19,724 --> 00:35:21,965
And that was just one trip.
660
00:35:24,068 --> 00:35:27,413
The Campbells soon found that
a shockingly similar incident
661
00:35:27,517 --> 00:35:30,620
to Flight 811 had given
clear warnings
662
00:35:30,724 --> 00:35:32,793
of the dangers
in the cargo door.
663
00:35:38,586 --> 00:35:42,137
In 1987, two years
before flight 811,
664
00:35:42,241 --> 00:35:45,379
a PAN AM 747 had been
climbing out of Heathrow
665
00:35:45,482 --> 00:35:48,931
when it failed to pressurize
at 20 000 feet.
666
00:35:49,724 --> 00:35:51,689
The pilots had to turn back.
667
00:35:52,862 --> 00:35:54,517
When they got back
to Heathrow,
668
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:56,793
they found out the door was
hanging open an inch and a half
669
00:35:56,896 --> 00:36:00,482
at the bottom
and all of the locks were open.
670
00:36:01,172 --> 00:36:02,586
When they got to
the maintenance base,
671
00:36:02,689 --> 00:36:06,275
they found that
all of the locking sectors
672
00:36:06,379 --> 00:36:08,206
were either bent or broken.
673
00:36:09,551 --> 00:36:11,482
Why had the C-latches turned
674
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:13,724
and bent back
the locking sectors?
675
00:36:14,517 --> 00:36:16,172
Boeing claimed that
the ground crew
676
00:36:16,275 --> 00:36:17,862
must have mishandled
the mechanism.
677
00:36:18,655 --> 00:36:20,689
The door had been
closed manually
678
00:36:20,793 --> 00:36:24,000
and what they said happened
was that the guy wound
679
00:36:24,103 --> 00:36:27,517
the C-latch closed,
98 turns of a speed wrench.
680
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:31,000
He closed the... outer handle
681
00:36:31,103 --> 00:36:32,896
and then wound it open again.
682
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,586
And to be in the position
that they were found in
683
00:36:35,689 --> 00:36:37,034
when the aircraft got back,
684
00:36:37,137 --> 00:36:39,310
he would have had
to wind them open 98 turns.
685
00:36:39,413 --> 00:36:41,586
And this is just
absolutely ridiculous.
686
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:44,517
But the Campbells'
investigation uncovered
687
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:47,965
another vital clue to why
the C-latches are turned.
688
00:36:48,068 --> 00:36:50,620
A report by PAN AM engineers
689
00:36:50,724 --> 00:36:54,206
highlighted problems with
the doors' electrical system.
690
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:57,413
It had a fault
in the S2 master lock switch,
691
00:36:57,517 --> 00:37:00,655
that should have turned off
the power to the door
692
00:37:00,758 --> 00:37:02,793
when the outer handle
was closed.
693
00:37:04,172 --> 00:37:06,275
This was an alarming finding.
694
00:37:06,379 --> 00:37:08,448
When the outer handle
was closed,
695
00:37:08,551 --> 00:37:11,344
the S2 master lock switch
was meant to disconnect
696
00:37:11,448 --> 00:37:15,034
the power supply and stop the
C-latch motors from turning.
697
00:37:15,827 --> 00:37:17,379
So could this have failed,
698
00:37:17,482 --> 00:37:19,724
allowing the motors
to open the door?
699
00:37:21,206 --> 00:37:25,413
To find out, Boeing asked the
airlines to do a simple test.
700
00:37:25,517 --> 00:37:28,655
Close the outer handle,
then press the switch
701
00:37:28,758 --> 00:37:31,103
to open the door
and see what happens.
702
00:37:32,241 --> 00:37:35,206
When they hit the switch,
it actually worked
703
00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:37,379
and Boeing thought
this is not going to work.
704
00:37:37,482 --> 00:37:39,000
But it actually worked.
705
00:37:39,103 --> 00:37:40,965
There was power
to the door locks
706
00:37:41,068 --> 00:37:44,344
with the outer handle closed,
707
00:37:44,448 --> 00:37:46,137
and the lock started to move
708
00:37:46,241 --> 00:37:47,862
and it started to force
709
00:37:47,965 --> 00:37:49,655
the locking sectors
out of the way.
710
00:37:49,758 --> 00:37:52,241
And a few days later,
711
00:37:52,344 --> 00:37:53,965
the airline started ringing in
712
00:37:54,068 --> 00:37:56,137
and saying it was damaging
their planes.
713
00:37:56,241 --> 00:37:58,206
So Boeing stopped the test.
714
00:37:58,310 --> 00:38:00,137
But it meant that
on those aircraft,
715
00:38:00,241 --> 00:38:03,551
the S2 switch had failed
which is a silent failure.
716
00:38:03,655 --> 00:38:04,931
And all of those aircraft
717
00:38:05,034 --> 00:38:08,827
were likely to have
the same problem as 811.
718
00:38:08,931 --> 00:38:12,275
They were just waiting for a
short circuit to open the doors.
719
00:38:12,379 --> 00:38:15,620
The Campbells now became
convinced that the accident
720
00:38:15,724 --> 00:38:19,724
on Flight 811 began with
a failure of the S2 switch.
721
00:38:19,827 --> 00:38:22,724
Power remained on
to the C-latch motors.
722
00:38:22,827 --> 00:38:26,103
All it took was a short circuit
in the 20-year-old wiring
723
00:38:26,206 --> 00:38:30,172
which had been found
to be frayed on other aircraft
to start the motors up.
724
00:38:30,275 --> 00:38:32,931
The aluminum locking sectors
were too weak
725
00:38:33,034 --> 00:38:37,068
to stop the latches turning
and the cargo door burst open.
726
00:38:41,448 --> 00:38:44,448
The National Transportation
Safety Board determines
727
00:38:44,551 --> 00:38:46,689
that the probable cause
of this accident...
728
00:38:46,793 --> 00:38:49,724
After waiting a year
for the NTSB report,
729
00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:52,103
Kevin and Susan Campbell
expected it to match
730
00:38:52,206 --> 00:38:55,758
their theory of what had led
to the accident on Flight 811.
731
00:38:56,965 --> 00:38:58,862
I assumed that we would have
a report come out
732
00:38:58,965 --> 00:39:00,965
that this was
an electrical malfunction.
733
00:39:01,068 --> 00:39:03,310
And we were staggerd
when they came out
734
00:39:03,413 --> 00:39:05,655
and said that the door
had been mishandled.
735
00:39:05,758 --> 00:39:08,310
The report focussed
entirely on the fact
736
00:39:08,413 --> 00:39:12,862
that the door lock
must've been mishandled
by the ramp attendant.
737
00:39:14,103 --> 00:39:18,310
That was disappointing
and we felt
738
00:39:18,413 --> 00:39:20,275
that they must've been
at a different hearing
739
00:39:20,379 --> 00:39:22,103
from the one we were at.
740
00:39:22,517 --> 00:39:27,137
So how had the NTSB
come to their conclusion?
741
00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:29,413
There was other evidence
that we had found
742
00:39:29,517 --> 00:39:33,068
during our investigation
of improper procedures
743
00:39:33,172 --> 00:39:36,551
by the United mechanics
and ramp people.
744
00:39:36,655 --> 00:39:38,896
So we were convinced
that there was,
745
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,275
we could use the word "abuse",
being done on the doors.
746
00:39:42,379 --> 00:39:44,137
The doors were sort of abused
747
00:39:44,241 --> 00:39:46,275
and weren't maintained
very well.
748
00:39:46,379 --> 00:39:49,758
We concluded that the probable
cause was mechanical.
749
00:39:51,206 --> 00:39:54,344
For the Campbells,
the NTSB's failure to mention
750
00:39:54,448 --> 00:39:57,655
the electrical problems
just wasn't good enough.
751
00:39:57,758 --> 00:39:59,793
What they said happened was,
752
00:39:59,896 --> 00:40:02,137
the door was closed,
753
00:40:02,241 --> 00:40:04,827
the locks didn't fully close,
754
00:40:04,931 --> 00:40:09,206
they just partially closed,
just hanging on... the pins.
755
00:40:10,137 --> 00:40:11,724
And then they closed
the outer handle,
756
00:40:11,827 --> 00:40:14,482
but that simply can't happen
757
00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:17,793
because that part of the locking
sector is still intact.
758
00:40:17,896 --> 00:40:19,724
It just simply cannot happen.
759
00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:22,896
You can't close
the outer handle
760
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,793
unless these are
in the fully locked position.
761
00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:29,379
It's the only way that
the outer handle will close.
762
00:40:29,482 --> 00:40:32,000
And just closing this manually,
763
00:40:32,103 --> 00:40:35,551
you can't exert enough force
to actually damage
764
00:40:35,655 --> 00:40:37,344
this part of the locking sector.
765
00:40:37,448 --> 00:40:39,586
All it does is just
butts up against there.
766
00:40:39,689 --> 00:40:41,413
If the locks aren't
fully closed,
767
00:40:41,517 --> 00:40:43,275
it just simply butts up
against them
768
00:40:43,379 --> 00:40:45,103
and goes no further.
769
00:40:58,896 --> 00:41:02,827
They went back
to investigating the accident
on Flight 811.
770
00:41:02,931 --> 00:41:05,275
And soon found
disturbing evidence
771
00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:08,206
of how it could and should
have been prevented.
772
00:41:11,724 --> 00:41:14,310
After the PAN AM incident
in 1987,
773
00:41:14,413 --> 00:41:17,310
it turned out that Boeing
had issued a directive
774
00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:19,551
to the airlines
on how to correct
775
00:41:19,655 --> 00:41:22,275
the weak aluminum
locking sectors.
776
00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:25,344
The airworthiness directive
that came out
777
00:41:25,448 --> 00:41:28,931
was to replace the aluminum
sectors with steel sectors
778
00:41:29,034 --> 00:41:30,517
that could not be bent.
779
00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:33,758
And there was some additionally
interim requirements
780
00:41:33,862 --> 00:41:37,482
for inspections to be performed
until what they call
781
00:41:37,586 --> 00:41:40,931
the terminating action, the
steal sectors were installed.
782
00:41:42,103 --> 00:41:46,241
The fix was cheap and simple,
but getting it done was not.
783
00:41:46,965 --> 00:41:49,172
The actual cost
of the modification,
784
00:41:49,275 --> 00:41:51,344
changing these locking
sectors to steel
785
00:41:51,448 --> 00:41:54,034
was 2 000 US dollars
per aircraft,
786
00:41:54,137 --> 00:41:56,551
but it took
ten hours to do it.
787
00:41:56,655 --> 00:41:59,241
And that's where
the money was...
788
00:41:59,344 --> 00:42:01,896
Taking these aircrafts
out of service for ten hours.
789
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,482
That's millions of dollars.
790
00:42:05,586 --> 00:42:08,275
The Campbells found
that back in 1987,
791
00:42:08,379 --> 00:42:11,275
the Federal Aviation Admin,
who were meant
792
00:42:11,379 --> 00:42:12,655
to enforce improvements,
793
00:42:12,758 --> 00:42:15,068
had given the airlines 18 months
794
00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:17,275
to comply with the modification.
795
00:42:21,862 --> 00:42:25,379
Within a year, Lee Campbell
and eight others would die
796
00:42:25,482 --> 00:42:27,275
in an avoidable accident.
797
00:42:28,517 --> 00:42:30,206
So why weren't the airlines
798
00:42:30,310 --> 00:42:32,482
forced to fix
the problem sooner?
799
00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:35,620
If these airplanes, these
large commercial airplanes,
800
00:42:35,724 --> 00:42:37,482
are grounded,
801
00:42:37,586 --> 00:42:39,758
it's an economic disaster.
802
00:42:40,379 --> 00:42:41,931
So what they do is they lobby
803
00:42:42,034 --> 00:42:43,448
with the regulatory agency,
804
00:42:43,551 --> 00:42:45,655
in the United States,
it's the FAA,
805
00:42:45,758 --> 00:42:50,931
to allow them to do
the fixes over time,
806
00:42:51,034 --> 00:42:53,482
when the airplanes are in
for normal maintenance.
807
00:42:53,586 --> 00:42:57,344
And that way, they are not
taken out of service.
808
00:42:58,172 --> 00:43:01,206
But when they do that,
when they allow the airlines,
809
00:43:01,310 --> 00:43:04,758
the air carriers
and the manufacturers
to fix these over time,
810
00:43:04,862 --> 00:43:06,655
in essence what the FAA is doing
811
00:43:06,758 --> 00:43:10,482
is gambling with the lives
of the passengers and the crew
812
00:43:10,586 --> 00:43:11,827
that are flying the airplanes
813
00:43:11,931 --> 00:43:13,413
during the time
they are not fixed.
814
00:43:14,241 --> 00:43:16,206
After the deaths
on flight 811,
815
00:43:16,310 --> 00:43:18,896
the FAA instantly
shortened the deadline
816
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,758
for fixing the cargo door
from 18 months to just 30 days.
817
00:43:37,724 --> 00:43:41,034
It was only when United had
gone from one of the airlines
818
00:43:41,137 --> 00:43:43,827
of first resort to one
of the airlines of last resort
819
00:43:43,931 --> 00:43:47,379
in New Zealand that they...
just totally out of the blue,
820
00:43:47,482 --> 00:43:50,827
we got a letter inviting us
over to see them.
821
00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:55,586
And when we got there,
they were just going to do
a PR exercise on us.
822
00:43:55,689 --> 00:43:58,862
But we just laid into them,
823
00:43:58,965 --> 00:44:01,862
pointed out where they had
got it wrong.
824
00:44:01,965 --> 00:44:05,517
And you could see them
changing during it
825
00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:08,758
to realizing that we did know
what we were talking about.
826
00:44:08,862 --> 00:44:11,448
That we had put a lot
of serious effort into it.
827
00:44:11,551 --> 00:44:13,655
One of them actually
broke down.
828
00:44:13,758 --> 00:44:16,758
Because they'd never had
to meet next of kin before.
829
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:21,827
And it ended up with
the Vice President of United
830
00:44:21,931 --> 00:44:25,034
taking us around
the maintenance facility.
831
00:44:25,137 --> 00:44:27,586
And he had people running off
in all directions,
832
00:44:27,689 --> 00:44:29,413
just to get the information
that we wanted,
833
00:44:29,517 --> 00:44:31,000
getting questions answered.
834
00:44:31,103 --> 00:44:33,448
We could go anywhere
that we wanted.
835
00:44:33,551 --> 00:44:36,827
And we just...
Everything was laid on for us
836
00:44:36,931 --> 00:44:39,103
because at that stage
they realised
837
00:44:39,206 --> 00:44:41,655
that we really did know
what we were talking about.
838
00:44:43,275 --> 00:44:44,862
The pressure
of the Campbells' campaign
839
00:44:44,965 --> 00:44:46,896
eventually began to pay off.
840
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,965
The vital piece of evidence
that could prove them right,
841
00:44:50,068 --> 00:44:54,206
the cargo door, still lay two
miles down in the Pacific Ocean.
842
00:44:55,241 --> 00:44:57,655
But as articles appeared
in the American press,
843
00:44:57,758 --> 00:45:01,586
the NTSB commissioned the
US Navy to search for it.
844
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,310
A hundred miles south
of Honolulu,
845
00:45:05,413 --> 00:45:08,620
a deep submersible
began to trawl the sea bed.
846
00:45:10,724 --> 00:45:12,448
We went to Honolulu.
847
00:45:12,551 --> 00:45:15,862
And waited there while
they had their attempts.
848
00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,275
And they finally
recovered the door
849
00:45:18,379 --> 00:45:19,965
from 14 000 feet of water
850
00:45:20,068 --> 00:45:23,517
which was the deepest recovery
ever at that time.
851
00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:27,724
And we were phoned within
an hour of it coming out
of the water.
852
00:45:29,034 --> 00:45:30,896
But before the Campbells
could see it,
853
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,724
the door was swiftly removed
to Boeing's plant in Seattle.
854
00:45:36,068 --> 00:45:38,448
The Campbells
went in hot pursuit.
855
00:45:39,206 --> 00:45:44,241
We went over to Boeing
and they wouldn't show it to us.
856
00:45:45,275 --> 00:45:47,862
So, they reckoned
that the crucial pieces
857
00:45:47,965 --> 00:45:49,482
had gone to the NTSB.
858
00:45:50,758 --> 00:45:53,068
So again, we got in the car
859
00:45:53,172 --> 00:45:55,620
and drove across
to Washington DC.
860
00:45:59,827 --> 00:46:02,862
We arrived
at Ron Leesh's office.
861
00:46:03,379 --> 00:46:05,172
And Ron looks at his watch
and he says,
862
00:46:05,275 --> 00:46:06,827
"I can give you 5 minutes."
863
00:46:07,758 --> 00:46:09,965
So, about three hours later,
864
00:46:10,068 --> 00:46:13,724
we had the pieces that
were recovered in our hand.
865
00:46:13,827 --> 00:46:16,827
And they acknowledged that
we were definitely correct,
866
00:46:16,931 --> 00:46:19,000
it was an electrical
malfunction.
867
00:46:19,103 --> 00:46:21,448
And they said
they would fix the planes,
868
00:46:21,551 --> 00:46:23,413
they would make sure
it never happened again,
869
00:46:23,517 --> 00:46:24,689
but just don't hold your breath
870
00:46:24,793 --> 00:46:26,103
that the report
would ever be changed.
871
00:46:27,068 --> 00:46:29,896
Even with the evidence
of an electrical malfunction
872
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,862
in their hands, the NTSB refused
to change their report.
873
00:46:33,965 --> 00:46:38,344
Then, in June 1991,
fate intervened.
874
00:46:38,931 --> 00:46:41,517
A four-year-old United 747
875
00:46:41,620 --> 00:46:43,586
was sitting on the apron
in New York,
876
00:46:43,689 --> 00:46:48,620
when the C-latch motor started
up and the door opened itself.
877
00:46:49,758 --> 00:46:51,655
There was no way that they
could hide it any longer.
878
00:46:51,758 --> 00:46:52,827
They simply couldn't deny
879
00:46:52,931 --> 00:46:54,482
that it was
an electrical malfunction
880
00:46:54,586 --> 00:46:55,620
that was covering it.
881
00:47:00,724 --> 00:47:04,896
Finally, the NTSB publicly
issued a revised report
882
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,034
that concurred with
the Campbells' version.
883
00:47:07,896 --> 00:47:12,000
There was an inadvertent
failure of either the switch
884
00:47:12,103 --> 00:47:16,000
or the wiring that caused an
uncommanded opening of the door.
885
00:47:18,896 --> 00:47:21,586
It's nice that other people
know that you are right
886
00:47:21,689 --> 00:47:23,620
and had been all along
887
00:47:23,724 --> 00:47:26,758
and the support that they were
giving you was vindicated.
888
00:47:28,241 --> 00:47:31,068
The Campbells spent thousands
of dollars of their own money
889
00:47:31,172 --> 00:47:32,586
on their campaign.
890
00:47:33,413 --> 00:47:36,068
They were never interested
in a financial settlement
891
00:47:36,172 --> 00:47:38,448
for Lee's death,
but they did persuade
892
00:47:38,551 --> 00:47:40,448
United and Boeing to set up
893
00:47:40,551 --> 00:47:42,827
a university scholarship
in his name.
894
00:47:44,103 --> 00:47:45,724
I couldn't have lived
with myself
895
00:47:45,827 --> 00:47:49,241
if we had done
no investigating ourselves.
896
00:47:49,344 --> 00:47:52,379
It was just something we both
felt we needed to do.
897
00:47:52,482 --> 00:47:54,103
We didn't even discuss it.
898
00:47:54,206 --> 00:47:56,655
We just knew
that's what we would do.
899
00:47:56,758 --> 00:47:57,965
Yeah.
900
00:48:00,862 --> 00:48:02,827
But despite long
and public campaigns
901
00:48:02,931 --> 00:48:04,517
like that of the Campbells',
902
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:06,655
critics fear that
the airline industry
903
00:48:06,758 --> 00:48:09,379
has not learned the lessons
from Flight 811.
904
00:48:09,482 --> 00:48:12,862
The regulatory agencies,
they have a dual charge.
905
00:48:12,965 --> 00:48:15,137
One is to encourage aviation
906
00:48:15,241 --> 00:48:16,827
and the other
is aviation safety.
907
00:48:16,931 --> 00:48:18,310
And when you get
into a position
908
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:20,793
where you have economics
up against air safety,
909
00:48:20,896 --> 00:48:25,103
they tend to err on the side of
economics rather than safety.
910
00:48:26,413 --> 00:48:30,655
Serious accidents
caused by known defects
have continued to occur.
911
00:48:30,758 --> 00:48:34,896
In the 1990s, known problems
with icing on aircraft wings
912
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,793
caused a series of crashes.
913
00:48:37,517 --> 00:48:39,862
At least three planes
have had fatal fails
914
00:48:39,965 --> 00:48:43,827
due to known dangers from
flammable insulation material.
915
00:48:43,931 --> 00:48:49,172
And in 1996, a fully laden 747
blew itself up
916
00:48:49,275 --> 00:48:51,068
when known faults in the wiring
917
00:48:51,172 --> 00:48:53,275
are thought to have ignited
flammable vapours
918
00:48:53,379 --> 00:48:54,827
in the fuel tanks.
919
00:48:54,931 --> 00:48:57,758
Inevitably,
experts are skeptical
920
00:48:57,862 --> 00:48:59,793
about the aviation
industry's record
921
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:02,862
of balancing profit
against prevention.
922
00:49:03,551 --> 00:49:06,206
We've seen the wiring problem
in both United 811
923
00:49:06,310 --> 00:49:08,931
which eventually turned out to
be the cause of that accident,
924
00:49:09,034 --> 00:49:13,965
and also in TWA 800 where we had
an explosion in the fuel tank.
925
00:49:14,068 --> 00:49:19,655
The industry's answer
to 20 and 30-year-old wiring...
926
00:49:20,758 --> 00:49:25,241
And when the wiring can fray,
break, crack, cause a short,
927
00:49:25,344 --> 00:49:28,344
which can either ignite fuel
like in TWA 800,
928
00:49:28,448 --> 00:49:30,931
or open a cargo door
like in United 811.
929
00:49:31,034 --> 00:49:32,413
What the industry says:
930
00:49:33,551 --> 00:49:35,137
"Don't touch it.
931
00:49:35,241 --> 00:49:37,689
Don't go in there.
Don't inspect it.
932
00:49:37,793 --> 00:49:40,413
Don't try to fix it.
Don't try to remove it.
933
00:49:40,517 --> 00:49:42,482
Because it is so brittle
934
00:49:42,586 --> 00:49:44,275
that if you go in there
to try to fix it,
935
00:49:44,379 --> 00:49:46,137
you're gonna do more damage
than you can do good."
936
00:49:47,379 --> 00:49:49,827
And that's what I call
the ostrich approach
937
00:49:49,931 --> 00:49:51,379
to maintenance and safety.
938
00:49:51,482 --> 00:49:54,137
You know, we've decided
that you can have
939
00:49:54,241 --> 00:49:59,517
a spark of ignition in a fuel
tank of a large air carrier.
940
00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:01,586
But so far, we've been lucky,
941
00:50:01,689 --> 00:50:03,310
we've only had
one every ten years.
942
00:50:03,413 --> 00:50:05,551
We've only blown up
three or four airplanes.
943
00:50:05,655 --> 00:50:07,827
You know, to go in and replace
this wiring,
944
00:50:07,931 --> 00:50:09,517
to ground all these airplanes,
945
00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:11,241
would be astronomically
expensive.
946
00:50:11,344 --> 00:50:13,586
You know, one airplane
every ten years,
947
00:50:13,689 --> 00:50:15,172
one airplane every five years,
948
00:50:15,275 --> 00:50:18,241
200 or 300 people...
Cost of doing business.
949
00:50:18,344 --> 00:50:20,241
Cost of doing business.
950
00:50:20,344 --> 00:50:22,655
And that's a great
economic analysis
951
00:50:22,758 --> 00:50:25,724
and unless your mother
or your child
952
00:50:25,827 --> 00:50:27,482
is on board
one of these airplanes
953
00:50:27,586 --> 00:50:31,137
that happens to pay the price
for their economic satisfaction.
954
00:50:37,379 --> 00:50:40,103
For some of the survivors
of Flight 811
955
00:50:40,206 --> 00:50:41,793
the cost has been heavy.
956
00:50:42,793 --> 00:50:44,551
Each crew member
handled it differently.
957
00:50:44,655 --> 00:50:47,931
I know that there are still
two crew members
958
00:50:48,034 --> 00:50:50,551
that have never set foot
on an aircraft again.
959
00:50:51,655 --> 00:50:53,689
It was very difficult for me.
960
00:50:53,793 --> 00:50:58,172
I was diagnosed with severe
post-traumatic stress disorder.
961
00:50:58,862 --> 00:51:01,896
You can't reason,
you can't think,
962
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,482
making the slightest decision
is... very difficult.
963
00:51:06,586 --> 00:51:08,413
You are just at a total loss.
964
00:51:08,517 --> 00:51:10,448
So it was very difficult
to cope with.
965
00:51:13,103 --> 00:51:15,206
difuze
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