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Coming up on part two of the Vanderpump
Rules reunion.
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I'm sorry that hurts your feelings, but
I don't care. I'm not a f***ing awful
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person. You think you're better than all
of us on the show. Yes, you do. F***ing
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admit it. I honestly feel like I should
just say I'm wrong just so that everyone
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knows I'm wrong.
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When you did have sex with the girl in
Miami, which I completely 100 % believe
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that you did. Shut the f*** up, James.
Oh, you shut the f*** up. It looks like
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the smoking guy and also her description
of your genitalia. Oh my god, dude.
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Why did you tattoo Stassi's face?
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Oh, my God. You are a straight -up
serial killer.
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Hey, just go.
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Sit down and be quiet. It's none of your
business.
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There's a piece of videotape that you're
not proud of that you are in. I did
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watch it. I don't want anybody to know
about this.
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You think it's okay for a girl to hit a
guy?
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It scares me, Andy, to be honest. You
guys couldn't just keep it together for
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one night.
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I've been a boyfriend for the past year,
and... What is that? Take your hand and
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ask you to...
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Hey everybody, welcome to part two of
the Vanderpump Rules reunion. I'm Andy
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Cohen.
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Dusty, tell me more about when things
went bad with Katie.
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Did you, you felt betrayed by the Miami
thing?
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No, it was more than that. I was
thinking about this a lot going into
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Anyone were to have been reaching out to
me and granted? Yes, I didn't reach out
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to you But like I would be kind to you
just like I reached out to you when I
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an episode I said I feel so bad my heart
broke for you No, I mean, I like to see
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you learning but the question I said
that like I just okay and I appreciate
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But the question I have is why you cut
me off why you deemed me unworthy of
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friendship now It was both of us
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Honestly, I did I felt not really I was
blindsided by it pretty much the last
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time I saw you was your birthday and you
pretty much Stonewalled me days before
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I even got invited to Miami and you went
into like a hole I understand you have
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some stuff going on, but you couldn't
even return a text message Really? What
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was I supposed to do come banging on
your door? That's not how friendship
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You pick up the damn phone and you call
me back.
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Are your fingers broken?
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I don't understand why you could not get
back in touch with me. I think you're
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thinking of it as so black and white.
Oh, I'm thinking of it as black and
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You are fairly black and white. Tell me
what I did to you.
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I honestly feel like I should just say
I'm wrong just so that everybody knows.
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None of you guys know me.
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But also she worked with all these
people every day. I felt like I 100 %
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have gotten over the Miami thing. I just
kept wanting her to acknowledge that
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like, yeah, I know I totally just did a
180 and we've been friends for so long
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and had the same point of view and
talked about the same things. And I
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have had, and I just felt like you
weren't talking to me.
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You would not respond to my text
messages. I also, part of that went to,
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Tom and I went to our first couple of
therapy that you also knew about.
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Being the wonderful friend that you are
didn't even ask me how that went. And
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that's kind of where I came up with my
decision to go. And that all changed.
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I would have loved to share that
information with you if you would have
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up your damn phone.
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It's really simple.
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Friendship is two ways. Okay, I'm sorry
that I hurt you in that way. I'm sorry
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that you're hurt. But I just don't
understand why you weren't responding to
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And I'm very sorry.
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I'm apologizing that you're hurt.
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I'm literally saying to you, I'm sorry
that you're hurt.
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It was messed up that you did not
respond to me. Let me ask you this.
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happens. Do you understand why she did
go to Miami? Yes. You do? Absolutely.
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I would have gotten over that so
quickly. It just snowballed into so much
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I don't know what snowballed. You cut me
off and that was it.
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No, Katie, because then I hear that
you're saying things and of course you
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probably hear that I'm saying things. Is
that what you're talking about? Things
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keep snowballing. You heard I talked
about Patrick or something to someone?
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You literally changed your life and
basically became like this kept woman.
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So yeah, I did talk to people about it
and I'm sorry that hurts your feelings,
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but I don't care at this point. So if
you need to cut me off because you don't
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want to hear my opinions because they're
probably right. then so be it.
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Listen, Stassi, I don't know if you know
how devastated Katie was when you cut
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that relationship off. I mean, she was
really devastated.
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I don't care when I hear about her
talking about somebody that I love so
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I, I, I.
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No, because it's my feelings, of course.
I know, I know, but Stassi, let me ask
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you this. Do you think that they've been
as tough on you as you have been on
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them this season?
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Not even close.
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I think that in their blogs and, like,
the aftermath of it, yeah. But I
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understand that they're hurt by jokes
that I've made or me ripping on them.
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They're not jokes. I think they are, and
I'm sorry that they have hurt you. When
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you're angry and yelling about it, it
doesn't seem like you're trying to be
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funny. But that, you guys know me.
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Yeah, I do know you, exactly.
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I am trying to apologize to each and
every one of you.
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for any of the comments that I have made
offending you. And I'm very sorry,
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because I feel like that is the one
thing that I can really own up to that
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fault. And I'm sorry that I hurt all of
you.
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My boyfriend's half weasel, half vagina.
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When I hear rumors about Tom cheating on
you and then Jack saying these things
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about Tom and him not defending you,
yeah, I'm going to say a stupid joke
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half weasel, half vagina.
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The fact that, like, Tom got Sheena's
wedding invitation.
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Reply yet?
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What, is Schwartz going to go without
her?
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That is, like, grounds for breaking up
with my boyfriend.
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Schwartz is, like, half weasel, half
vagina.
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Like, it's not that big of a deal, half
weasel, half vagina. That is, like,
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nothing.
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Stassi, I want to talk about you and
Sheena.
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Sheena, Stassi looks a little thirsty.
Would you mind getting her a pinot
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grigio? If I can throw it in her face.
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Do you think you rubbed it in Sheena's
face a little too much that you're no
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longer a waitress here?
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No. No? I don't. I think we both give it
to each other.
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You found yourself at this big event in
Hollywood with the whole gang, and you
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lost a bet.
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So you had to go sit with Sheena and
Kristen.
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Highest sex game ever.
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I always lose.
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High card cut.
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Keep it classy. Keep it classy. Keep it
classy.
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We were just going to come over and say
hi.
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What was going through your mind?
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I felt like a half weasel, half vagina.
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What did you?
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I really, I was embarrassed.
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I felt like a loser.
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Well, Stassi, after that party, you
seemed to make a choice to really cut
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everyone off.
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Speaking of choices, Jax, why in the
world did you tattoo Stassi's face on
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arm? It looks like Stassi.
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Did you tattoo Stassi's face?
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Is it just, is it a specific face or is
it just like your ideal face?
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What? It's not Stassi, Stassi. It's not
you. It's not you.
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It's a joke. Hold on.
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You're hyperventilating. It's not you.
But it looks like her?
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Yeah, it looks like it. Similar.
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It's actually a hybrid of Carmen and
Saucy.
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Why would you get?
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tattoo. I like it. I like the face.
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It's really pretty. It's like a hybrid.
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It's a half and half.
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But why does it always have to be a
tattoo of some girl?
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Let me ask you this. Why does anybody
care what I do? Because I care.
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Who cares? Are you all going to lose
sleep over it? I do care.
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Who cares what I do? Everyone take care
of you, you, you, and this world would
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be such a better place.
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Show it. Show us. You gotta show it.
Let's see it.
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Honestly,
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I can really give two shits. to what
anybody thinks about what I do to my
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I don't care. No, you don't care.
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But it's just like a little look. I'm
just excited to see the new ink.
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Let's see. So that's... Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God. Let's have a look at that.
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You're a straight -up serial killer.
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What do you think of that tattoo?
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Um... Too close for comfort? I mean, I
don't know. Like, did he... I don't
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I don't know. It's all really, really
weird. It's really weird.
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OK, I want to talk to you about you and
Lisa because it seems like Lisa made
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some efforts this season to try to help
you out professionally and also try to
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get you to reconcile with your friends.
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Do you have something against her?
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I felt like I had confided in Lisa.
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And then I felt like you didn't care.
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And you just kept saying, be friends
with this person. Be friends with this
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person. Pushing me on people. Pushing me
on people. No, I never pushed you on
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people. I understood if you didn't want
to interact with Kristen.
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I understood if you had a problem with
Jack.
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But I felt that she was making a mistake
walking away from some of the friends
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that she'd had for years.
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You don't need to just dump all your
friends. I've dumped them before.
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You've got many good friends. What do
you want? You're not listening to
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anything. And you're just going to hear
whoever's willing to do what you want.
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It's not okay.
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It's not okay. That is what you do.
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I only ever wanted to help her. I don't
feel like that, especially on the
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finale. Yeah. When you knew my issues
with Jax. But you didn't need to run out
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of the room. Yes. Just because he
entered in the other. I did. Really?
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Yes. I did. If she's put in a happy
place, I just don't understand why. This
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how I feel. To the extent she's taking
to be so, like, not near me, you know?
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I'm giving the heads up.
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Jax has just walked in, okay?
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No. Don't be a baby.
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No. I don't understand why he gets so
nervous.
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Hang on. I'm going to go.
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I have to go.
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Did you need to call Lisa an old woman
in interviews?
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Well, she's the star of the show.
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What are you saying?
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I'm the star of the show.
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Why did you say you're the star of the
show? Because I'm the star of this show.
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That is sarcasm. No, you mean that when
you say it.
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You think you're better than all of us
on the show. Yes, you do.
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Admit it.
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Okay, I think this may be a good time to
take a break.
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Up next, I try to meddle in their
relationship.
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By meddle, you mean get him to cheat on
me so I'd break up with him. He's a big
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boy. He makes his own decisions.
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We're back with Lisa and the staff from
Sir.
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Jax, earlier this season, you made it
clear that Katie and Schwartz should
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up. I would love nothing more than Tom
to fucking rail a girl right in front of
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her.
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Why did you want that to happen so
badly? Well, I saw my friend Tom hurting
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the time. And he was like, man, I don't
know what to do with my relationship.
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He was spending a lot more time over at
myself and Tom's house and hanging out.
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And he was just like, I just want to get
out and be out of the apartment.
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Because they were going through a hard
time. But why were you so interested in
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breaking them up? You're right. You're
right. You're right. I would find that
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difficult. I know.
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We've all gone through our bad times of
venting. And I feel like Schwartz would
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vent sometimes around me and Jax. And
Jax just took it so literally. I felt it
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was more that Jax.
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had his own personal issues against me.
Because when I did try to sort of...
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You're right. ...put you over here, you
didn't like that. Well, it kind of was
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like she was mean, and when some people
are mean to me, I retaliate.
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I made it my point to stick my nose in
it and try to meddle in their
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relationship. By metal, you mean get him
to cheat on me so I'd break up with
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him. No one can get me. First of all, no
one can get anybody to do anything.
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He's a big boy. He makes his own
decisions. You pushed that girl.
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You didn't stop it. You can't make
anybody.
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Okay, listen.
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This head, like that, isn't not, like,
what do you call that? Come on, I didn't
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push heads. Did I?
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Did I push heads? Yeah. Yeah, thank you.
Okay, but listen, here's the thing.
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He's a 33 -year -old grown man. What?
33?
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32. Whoa. Yeah, 32 -year -old grown man.
Come on.
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Cheat on their girlfriends and just kiss
the girl. I'm sorry. You don't know.
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You don't know.
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Yeah.
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I'm not going to just be kissing a girl
if I'm cheating on my girlfriend. I'm
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just saying. I'm not talking about you
anymore. Calm down.
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Okay.
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Very good. Very good. Very good. Okay.
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So, Katie, a few people have implied
that you cheated on Schwartz.
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Have you ever cheated on Schwartz?
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No. No. And none of us ever said that.
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Sheena, where does the term motorboating
a dick come from?
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Dude is, like, standing on the bar, and
she's, like, full on dick level.
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We were all in a club. There's so many
people there. There was a guy standing,
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like, this high up. So that put Katie at
that level.
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She's dancing. She's shaking her hair
back and forth. She was putting her
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back on.
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It just looked like her head motion was
in his crotch region. And we had made a
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joke. We're like, oh, is she
motorboating his dick?
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And Katie, you did not motorboat a dick.
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Absolutely not. I would be more likely
to motorboat someone's boob than
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someone's dick, let's be honest. You
take someone's boob. Well, you do that.
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Have you ever done that?
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Have you ever done that? I can show you.
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Yeah, Jackson did it during lunch.
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Well, Schwartz, you admitted right away
to kissing a girl in L .A., but you
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didn't cop to what happened in Vegas.
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You know the whole Vegas thing?
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I wasn't completely honest about what
happened entirely.
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That night I snuck off and I went to an
after party and I actually did make out
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with that girl.
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Why not just rip the band -aid off all
at once? I couldn't. Oh, man.
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I felt so gross about the whole thing to
begin with. I felt disgusting and I was
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so disappointed in myself.
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And I felt like if I just laid both of
those things on her, I wasn't entirely
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sure the relationship...
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Could handle that.
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Stassi, you've known Katie and Schwartz
a long time. What do you think?
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I don't know exactly what happened.
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I don't know. Do you believe that's all
that happened? I mean, I don't know.
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Because with this group, it's like where
there's smoke, there's fire.
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And sometimes there's not. Sometimes
there is. And you never know anymore.
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now it's gotten so intense where there
are rumors about everyone.
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Where it's like, I don't know what's
true and what's not. I have no idea.
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Lisa, you offered a lot of support for
Katie through the season.
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How have you seen her change over the
last year?
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I've really seen her grow up, and I'm
proud of her.
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And I think she was very kind of almost
deferential to Starcy.
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And I think she needed to stand up for
herself, and I'm glad that she did.
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But I did try and be a good friend to
her, and I do love her, as I love most
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them here.
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It just was really nice to have someone
in my corner because I did feel very
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alone going through a lot of it and
didn't really have...
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Kind of like that voice of reason,
someone that knows better than me,
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that's lived longer than me to kind of
like shed some light on a situation.
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Why do you love him so much?
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I've never felt more of myself around
anyone besides him.
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So you either carry on waiting or you
turn around and you say, this is what I
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want and if you're not prepared to give
it to me, then I've got to move on.
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That was the second best.
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I just think that she needed the
support, you know? And look at her. Look
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she's become. I think Katie's, like, the
most improved person.
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I mean, like, low clap.
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And I think that's why he's fallen more
in love with her.
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Cute, huh?
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Stassi, we've already talked a lot
tonight about Kristen's relationship
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this season.
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How did you kind of view Kristen's
behavior?
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Obviously, she was a little extreme.
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Really? I mean, really extreme.
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I understood that, okay, she gets in a
one -track mind where she's thinking
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I just want to prove that I'm not the
only liar. And, like, that's not how it
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works. Like, it was just spiraling into
so much more.
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And it...
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the fact of whether she was lying or not
became irrelevant. Nobody gave a shit
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anymore. No one ever even called her a
liar, though. You're saying, like, you
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don't want to be the liar, and you want
to, like, you know, claim your name and
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all this, but none of us called you a
liar. No one said you were lying. You
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didn't. He did.
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He said I made the whole thing up, that
I flew the girl here, I conspired with
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her, I was convincing her this was the
truth. Well, let me ask you this,
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Kristen. Let me ask you about the girl.
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You have this teary...
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moment with tom in miami and a few days
later you're kind of meeting with this
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girl and marie miami girl and plotting
to ruin his life how does that work it
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was really it really was just the timing
yes i had spoken to her months before
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that even and then not again until you
met her how on instagram she starts
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following me on social media i realized
who she is I started following her back,
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and I did reach out to her first. There
it is. That's what I was waiting for.
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You did reach out. Yes, I did reach out
first.
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Kristen, what exactly was your
involvement in Miami Girl showing up to
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Before she actually came, she had sent
me a text message saying, I'm going to
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come to LA and visit my dad, blah, blah,
blah. She said, quote, end quote, I
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want to confront him in front of Ariana.
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I would love to see the look on Tom's
face if he saw me in person. He's such a
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liar. And you did not?
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No, of course not.
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Out of curiosity, James, what's going
through your mind when your girlfriend
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so passionately and actively involved in
getting this girl into Sir, having
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her confront him?
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You know, I don't really care at this
point if Tom had sex with that girl in
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Miami. Like, if you can tell by the
theme. But do you care if your
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obsessed with him? Yeah, of course.
Yeah, of course. Any guy would.
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Yeah. Yeah, I do care.
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Okay, but has she moved on? Yes, but at
the same time, it sounds silly, but I do
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understand kind of where she was at. You
do?
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It's something I'm not going to just
break up with Kristen about, mate. I can
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get over that. Okay, do whatever you
want. When you did have sex with this
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in Miami, which I completely 100 %
believe that you did, that's just my
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opinion. You were there. I remember you
were right there. She's got facts. She's
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got facts. Oh, facts.
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Factual stuff that are pretty vivid. Oh,
we will talk about some facts.
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Coming up... Should I bring up why I
actually hate Sheena?
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Okay, so let's talk about Miami Girl.
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Tom, seeing this girl screaming at you
across the bar that you had sex with her
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was...
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Unusual. We had sex. We had sex. I'm
sorry we didn't. We had sex. No, we did
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not. We had sex. No, we did not. Yes, we
did. You know what the funny thing is?
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The funny thing to me about this whole
story is that if you add up all of these
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ridiculously stupid things, they
obviously don't make sense. Apparently,
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on her period. I made her prove it.
Something that you know I don't do. You
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know. You know. Everybody knows that
that is not my thing, first of all.
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Okay? Second of all, somebody said
something that, like, I went down on her
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twice and wanted to, like... I'm
serious, but if you actually... No, no,
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Lisa. This is the point.
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Lisa.
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Okay, go on. Let him finish.
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Let me finish.
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I would love to be able to talk about
what happened for once instead of like
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hearing what James knows happened and
what Kristen knows happened.
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If somebody wants to tell Ariana what a
piece of shit I am, why would they come
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up to me? Why wouldn't they just go
straight to Ariana?
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Isn't that normally the thing you do?
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Let me ask you this. Why did you tear
out of here when she walked in?
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Go ahead and take care of the people
down at the end.
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He literally just disappeared.
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Could he be any more guilty?
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I got to tell you, Andy, my first
initial thought was like, are you
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And I'm like, no, I'm not playing.
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You know that it looked creepy.
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I don't care. You know what I think
would have happened had he stayed? Is it
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would have ended up in a screaming
situation with Kristen. We all saw what
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Kristen was doing and how she handled
the situation. And then he would have
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gotten fired.
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So Ariana, this girl comes in and... And
you still had no doubt
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about it.
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Well, no. And you know what I think is
funny is that the only person who had...
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...and me.
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Seems like the smoking gun also is her
description of your genitalia.
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Oh, does the penis look like a penis?
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Unless that's some weird characteristic,
like it takes a hard right or
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something. A penis looks like a penis.
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For some reason, her description of it
was down to a T for Kristen.
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If she would have said I was 8 inches,
Kristen would have been like, yes, of
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course. If she would have said I was 2
inches, you know what I mean? It didn't
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matter. Tom, how did you feel about
Kristen and Miami Girl and then James
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in? You know, the funny thing about the
whole situation is that it's such a
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junior high blow.
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But the funny thing about James saying
something to me is that I remember
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specifically when we were friends or
whatever, him, like, we would have
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conversations about, like, you got to
simulate the clip or, you know. Oh, come
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on.
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You need to hear that, like, I was,
like, this horrible guy.
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These are the skills you learned from
Tom on Christmas.
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Yes, he has.
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He's kept my legacy going.
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After Miami Girl left, Kristen and
Sheena got in a knockdown drag out.
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Do you know how much I bet you're
f***ing back about that? I don't know.
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Listen to me. Let me talk, Kristen.
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I am back to absurd.
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I don't know. What does it mean?
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Honestly, I didn't even know I could hit
that octave in my voice. I've never
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heard myself be that upset and make that
squealing sound.
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And then, Kristen, your manager came
out, Diana, and you told her to go suck
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dick and f*** herself.
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You don't own the restaurant. Move your
ass.
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Leave. Suck the f*** away. Bye.
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Suck a dick.
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Amongst many other f -bombs, yeah, it
was bad. It seemed like, though, when
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met with Lisa, you kind of...
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stood by your behavior. I am not taking
blame for this.
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I'm sorry.
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Your behavior was absolutely wrong. That
was probably the best it could have
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gone with that girl coming in here. I've
had enough of your bullshit. As far as
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I'm concerned, you're not here, you're
not here socially, and you're fired from
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Sir Restaurant, and it's done.
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I'm sorry.
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In the moment, I just, I felt like I was
trying to come to work, and then I saw
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them sitting.
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It's like I knew it was about to happen.
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Yeah, but what did you expect?
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Really, what did you expect after
talking to Diana like that? To tell your
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manager to go suck a dick and to go f***
yourself. What did you expect? You
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expect to walk in here and have like the
best section in the restaurant.
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What did you expect?
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How you should have come in, you should
have said, I lost my mind. I'm so sorry.
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If she had said that, would you have?
Probably not. But we were still debating
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because, as I said, we had such a
history with her. And she's been here
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years. And it's only really been the
last year that she's just totally
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up. So in this moment now, do you
believe that you should have gotten
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Yeah. You do?
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I wish I had just quit because being
around...
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People that I'm not friends with, my
accent as a new girlfriend, it was just
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much was so hard for me. I should have
just cut my losses and made it easier
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everyone.
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Seeing everyone's jubilant reactions,
seeing the
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glee and celebration of your coworkers
and even the chefs. The
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cooks, that was like the funniest thing
I've ever seen. Yeah.
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How did you feel seeing everyone's
reaction?
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I mean, these people's reaction, no
sweat. Not surprised. Not at all.
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Well, it's time to turn our attention to
the most important day of 2014,
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Sheena's wedding day.
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You know, it seemed like you had
everything choreographed.
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I did.
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Do you, in retrospect, regret being so
wedded to a certain chronology?
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Because, you know, a lot of it didn't
work out the way you wanted it to.
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Why haven't? Why didn't we do the dollar
dance? Where is my purse?
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No one's going to want to do a dollar
dance now. They're all dancing to upbeat
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music. We didn't do that. When are we
doing the bouquet? When are we doing the
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garter? When am I cutting the cake? Half
of my guests have left.
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I don't like to have regrets.
438
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,280
I like to just, you know.
439
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,760
live and learn.
440
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:23,940
Watching it back, I just wanted to reach
through the TV and take me and be like,
441
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,040
it'll be okay.
442
00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:30,780
Katie, Sheena's wedding happened just
days after you found out that Tom had
443
00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:32,460
a little moment with this girl in Vegas.
444
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:37,380
How hard was it for you to put on a
smile and support Sheena?
445
00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:40,960
It was a little bit hard to kind of get
through the ceremony part of it and not,
446
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,020
you know, get sad about my own
situation.
447
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:51,140
Well, Schwartz, the gift at the wedding
did not initially go over great.
448
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,780
The string... It's a ring on a string.
449
00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:56,500
I just got you a little something.
450
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,640
I know it's not the engagement ring that
you deserve.
451
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,420
Putting a ring on a string? Don't think
too much about it.
452
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,820
It's not a string, it's a gold necklace.
453
00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:08,160
Not really what a girl pushing 30 wants
to hear.
454
00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:14,330
I did not expect that response at all.
Maybe I'm... Maybe I'm naive.
455
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:17,790
In hindsight, obviously, it makes
perfect sense.
456
00:25:18,370 --> 00:25:21,510
Here's the thing, because we talked
about rings, and he's like, I think it
457
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:24,410
be cool to wear around a necklace. I'm
like, absolutely not. I'm like, no, why
458
00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:25,289
would you do that?
459
00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:27,550
It's supposed to go on your finger. It's
symbolism. It's tradition.
460
00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:28,609
It's all that.
461
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:32,790
You can get me a pair of earrings, a
necklace, a bracelet. Just don't get me
462
00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:36,110
ring. I don't ever want to be given a
ring by a guy unless it's like the ring.
463
00:25:36,190 --> 00:25:39,010
I'm not talking like the exact ring I
want, but the ring that has the strings
464
00:25:39,010 --> 00:25:40,590
attached to it, not attached to a
string.
465
00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:44,890
So then you're there, and he gives you
this box. Did you think it was... was
466
00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:48,890
moment? I mean, that flashed in front of
my face a little bit, but I was like,
467
00:25:48,910 --> 00:25:52,850
no, not at a wedding. Please, God, not
like, I mean, okay, yeah, sure, if it's
468
00:25:52,850 --> 00:25:56,030
going to, but like, I'll take it, I'll
take it.
469
00:25:56,230 --> 00:26:02,170
I don't understand it, because if he
knows that she wants the proposal, he
470
00:26:02,170 --> 00:26:07,230
that at any time, if he brings out a
little box, suddenly she's going to be
471
00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:09,630
like, is this it? And then he does that.
472
00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:13,190
Every girl knows what a little box
means. Every girl, they're born.
473
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,940
I stand by the ring on the string,
actually.
474
00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:19,740
How about you just don't make out with
girls, and that will remind me that you
475
00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:20,479
love me.
476
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Okay,
477
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,960
let's talk about the wedding dress.
478
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,800
What was your inspiration for a two
-piece?
479
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,980
I mean, you went for a crop top, which
we don't see often.
480
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,700
I wear crop tops all the time.
481
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:32,900
That's, like, my thing.
482
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,540
Why not make a wedding dress crop top?
483
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:39,920
I wanted to do something different. And
I have already seen my dress several
484
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,700
times on Instagram being copied. So what
is it? Imitation is the highest form of
485
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:45,720
flattery. Right. So it looks beautiful.
486
00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:47,460
And it was me.
487
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,100
You know, I don't think anyone else here
would wear anything similar to that.
488
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,780
And I loved it.
489
00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:55,020
Have you changed your opinion on the
crop top?
490
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,600
It was just an easy target.
491
00:26:56,820 --> 00:26:58,820
Do you know what I mean? Like, she's
wearing a crop top.
492
00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:01,960
So that's the crop top two -piece
wedding dress.
493
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,360
That is the ugliest effing wedding dress
I've ever seen in my entire life.
494
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:08,400
She has so much makeup on.
495
00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:12,060
I know. You would think, like, come on,
it's your wedding day. Like, try not to
496
00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:13,100
look like a hooker today.
497
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Did it bother you hearing her critique?
498
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:17,500
It didn't surprise me.
499
00:27:17,780 --> 00:27:20,960
But I mean, it was like, oh, you know,
her hooker makeup.
500
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,640
You know, it's a wedding. Why would she
wear so much makeup? I mean, these
501
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,740
pictures are forever.
502
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,460
And that makeup needed to last me all
day and all night.
503
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,400
I wish we could all just establish that.
504
00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:35,430
Most of everybody here has done these
things to each other and hated on each
505
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:36,389
other this season.
506
00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:38,930
It's not without heart, though. What do
you mean?
507
00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:42,350
There's heart behind us having problems.
508
00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:45,290
You're just literally picking on
somebody like a bully.
509
00:27:45,490 --> 00:27:47,330
Sheena? Sheena and her wedding dress.
510
00:27:47,530 --> 00:27:50,110
Should I bring up why I actually hate
Sheena?
511
00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:53,830
You guys all know why she hates Sheena.
Everybody knows. You know why.
512
00:27:54,050 --> 00:27:58,790
I don't know why. Can you explain to me
why you don't like her? Because I don't
513
00:27:58,790 --> 00:27:59,790
know.
514
00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:07,130
If I hated somebody and I thought that
their ex -boyfriend was showing a video,
515
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:08,710
I would get on the phone immediately.
516
00:28:08,930 --> 00:28:10,850
First of all, I would say, put that
f***ing s*** away.
517
00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:14,110
And I would call someone immediately.
No, you watched it and you let everybody
518
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:18,330
else watch it. Yeah, because I wanted to
see what this whole thing was. So I
519
00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:21,690
knew if you tried to do something with
it, you'd think I wasn't going to have
520
00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:24,970
your back. You'd think that I would have
tried to help that come out. He came in
521
00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:28,030
here and we were all appalled by what
happened. To say it gently.
522
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:31,970
You are hurt because there's a piece of
videotape that you're not proud of.
523
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:36,170
And what happened? And I watched it, and
I've apologized for that. You're the
524
00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:39,190
one who told me about it. Yeah, I did
tell you about it. In the middle of
525
00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:42,670
laughing about it. I did tell you about
it. We don't even talk about it. But I'm
526
00:28:42,670 --> 00:28:45,690
just, okay. I didn't have it. She showed
it to James. I didn't have a copy of
527
00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:46,690
it. I didn't have it.
528
00:28:47,150 --> 00:28:51,930
Can I just say, okay, this is why I
haven't felt bad about making fun of a
529
00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:52,909
wedding dress.
530
00:28:52,910 --> 00:28:55,790
It just looked like an ass, which is
fine. I'll take looking like an ass,
531
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:57,730
because I don't want anybody to know
about this.
532
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,300
I would rather look like a bitch than
have it come out that I have a video of
533
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:08,380
me. So she pulled them down all season.
I'm trying to explain it. I'm not a
534
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:09,380
f***ing awful person.
535
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,160
I just, I have been hurt. Explain how
you've been hurt. I was told that you
536
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560
the one that made the joke saying you
should sell this to TMZ. No. And then I
537
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,380
just felt like, what the f***?
538
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,100
Why am I ever going to talk to any of
these people again? It was the darkest
539
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,100
point of my life.
540
00:29:26,140 --> 00:29:28,580
You have to know, he did come in here
and he was showing the whole bar. I
541
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:29,580
I was showing everybody.
542
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,480
Okay, if you didn't say, you know, I'm
going to give it to, go to DMZ, then I'm
543
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,280
sorry for thinking that you did. But
that is what I have felt. And you did
544
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,520
it. I would never do that. And you did
let him show it to a bunch of men. And
545
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,520
I'm sorry.
546
00:29:43,060 --> 00:29:44,060
Up next.
547
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,980
Jax, you said without hesitation, they
went in the room and they had sex.
548
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:50,310
What is the truth?
549
00:29:54,890 --> 00:29:55,990
Are we taking five?
550
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:57,470
Yes.
551
00:29:57,970 --> 00:30:01,010
Katie, you really, like, I'm telling
you, you're crossing the line. I don't
552
00:30:01,010 --> 00:30:04,530
care. You're not my friend anymore. I'm
not your friend anymore. It's done.
553
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:07,150
Okay, well, then why are you acting like
I'm mean? You're being mean.
554
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:11,950
She didn't do anything wrong to you. I
think your boyfriend is, like, he got to
555
00:30:11,950 --> 00:30:15,270
town and he stopped hanging out with
her. I mean, Katie, why are you hating
556
00:30:15,270 --> 00:30:17,550
somebody that has never done anything to
you? I mean, it's bullshit.
557
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:21,040
I will continue to be the bigger person,
Katie. Okay, because you are the bigger
558
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,420
person. You're so mature.
559
00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:25,920
I'm not saying I'm mature. I came in
here being like, God, I would hope that
560
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,920
could be fine.
561
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:28,760
I was a really good friend to you.
562
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:37,280
So we were talking
563
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,159
about the wedding.
564
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,900
Everyone was on high alert that Kristen
was potentially going to make a scene of
565
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:44,980
some kind of the wedding.
566
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,400
Lisa warned you about it. It was the
buzz in the air that you could really
567
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,400
a scene.
568
00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:56,920
You went off to a car with Trevor. Jay,
get the out of my face. No.
569
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,500
I will call the police on you. Stop it.
570
00:31:00,540 --> 00:31:02,120
Just like that.
571
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Do you think it's okay for a girl to hit
a guy? It's never okay for anybody to
572
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,179
hit anybody.
573
00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:09,160
Did you punch him or did you Muay Thai
him?
574
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:12,580
It was both. It was like a slap and then
she went Muay Thai.
575
00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:19,250
Seems like your initial reaction when
you heard that she had punched James was
576
00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:22,670
you were kind of laughing a little bit,
and then the next morning you were
577
00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:23,670
really pissed.
578
00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:26,870
Like, you guys couldn't just keep it
together for one night.
579
00:31:27,170 --> 00:31:30,670
One night for me. The only thing I knew
to do in that moment was to walk away.
580
00:31:31,330 --> 00:31:35,450
And I appreciate that you were mature
enough to know to do that, so thank you
581
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:38,170
for that. I spent, like, hours, and I'm
not blaming him. It was what it was.
582
00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:41,610
I've gotten hammered and acted a fool,
most of us have. But in that moment, the
583
00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:42,610
only thing I knew...
584
00:31:42,810 --> 00:31:44,050
to do, which is walk away.
585
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:48,990
Lisa, when you heard that Kristen had
punched James, your reaction was, he
586
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:49,990
should break up with her.
587
00:31:50,150 --> 00:31:54,090
Well, yeah. I mean, he was obnoxious. He
was arrogant. He was in her face. But
588
00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:56,890
that doesn't justify smacking somebody
hard in the temple.
589
00:31:57,690 --> 00:32:00,430
James, you said it was your fault that
Kristen hit you.
590
00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:04,750
It was my fault because I wouldn't get
out of her face. You know what I mean? A
591
00:32:04,750 --> 00:32:07,510
lot of sh** came out of my mouth that
night when I was blacked out. You know,
592
00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:09,230
when people said to me the stuff I was
saying.
593
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:13,490
It scares me, Andy, to be honest. It
does scare me. But to be honest, I have
594
00:32:13,490 --> 00:32:14,490
learned from that mistake.
595
00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:16,870
And I'm continuing to learn from my
mistakes.
596
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:19,770
And, you know, that's all I can do.
597
00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:21,690
What was your reaction?
598
00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:26,650
You know, nobody deserves to get hit
like that. And the fact that...
599
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,180
You know, he was at a boiling point, and
I'm sure seeing her walk off with some
600
00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:35,840
guy is definitely going to even make it
ten times worse when all he's trying to
601
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,500
do is get love back that he's giving so
unconditionally.
602
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,340
Kristen, after the wedding, it seems
like you felt you had nothing to lose
603
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:51,200
the group, and you went on a final spree
to
604
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,480
prove that you were not a liar.
605
00:32:55,630 --> 00:33:00,390
as you discussed Tom's infidelity with
Ariana.
606
00:33:00,890 --> 00:33:05,350
What was upsetting me is that because
Jax had been telling me and telling us
607
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:09,290
so long, for so many months, and
repeating that it was true, it was true,
608
00:33:09,290 --> 00:33:11,850
true. One time. And every time I said,
okay, let it go, and then he's like,
609
00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:14,250
well, it did happen. Wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait. Me let it go?
610
00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:19,070
Yeah, every time we would discuss it and
it would kind of die out, you would
611
00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:22,610
bring it back up again. I'm sure he
doesn't. But then you sat down at dinner
612
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:26,250
you said to the group, Yes, it happened.
613
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:29,870
Tom went into the room and had sex with
this girl.
614
00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:35,590
This is what happened. So that girl was
with Tom in the room
615
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:38,150
having sex.
616
00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:42,910
She slept with him, but she had sex with
him.
617
00:33:43,390 --> 00:33:44,450
Do I think it happened?
618
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:50,270
100%. And then the next day at the surf
photo shoot, you had no recollection of
619
00:33:50,270 --> 00:33:54,570
saying it and told Tom you didn't say
it. The other night when you went to
620
00:33:54,570 --> 00:33:56,110
dinner, what did you say exactly?
621
00:33:56,850 --> 00:33:58,210
About what? First of all, about what?
622
00:33:58,550 --> 00:33:59,550
About Miami.
623
00:33:59,970 --> 00:34:01,170
I didn't even talk to Kristen.
624
00:34:02,590 --> 00:34:07,410
Yeah. What is the truth in your mind? In
my mind, I wasn't there. I wasn't
625
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:10,150
there. No matter if it did or didn't, I
wasn't there. I was buying beer.
626
00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:13,110
Those two are the only ones I'm serious.
You were not in the room that whole
627
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:15,630
night. I wasn't even in the room. I was
at CBS buying beer. We were at the
628
00:34:15,630 --> 00:34:16,549
Monday Night Live.
629
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:18,710
So then why? I only go off of what she
said.
630
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,860
That's it. Okay, but why would you,
like, she's a drinker. You said without
631
00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:29,739
hesitation at that meal, you sat there,
you said, they went in the room,
632
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:32,100
they closed the door, and they had sex.
633
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,480
You got to remember, too, we were all
hitting each other from the San Diego
634
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,239
thing. That was coming after the San
Diego thing.
635
00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:40,719
It was long after the San Diego thing.
Yeah, but him and I weren't getting
636
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,159
along. So did you just make this whole
thing up, or did this girl tell you this
637
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,679
story? That's what the girl said to me,
to be honest. But again, she...
638
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,820
But when you repeated it, you didn't say
the girl said they had sex. You said
639
00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:56,179
they had sex. And when that girl told
you that and you asked Tom, what did Tom
640
00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:59,840
say? The girl told me the next day that
that's what happened. I wasn't there.
641
00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:05,290
100 % I was not even in the room. I was
at CVS buying beer in Miami. So maybe
642
00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:09,110
the root of all these problems isn't
necessarily me because I'm not the one
643
00:35:09,110 --> 00:35:10,990
made that story up or brought it to
anyone's attention.
644
00:35:11,470 --> 00:35:16,370
Well, you were there at the dinner. You
kept it going.
645
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:18,050
You orchestrated the dinner.
646
00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:22,370
I've admitted that I facilitated it
throughout the summer. I'm saying I'm
647
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:23,650
the one who started this rumor.
648
00:35:24,730 --> 00:35:26,450
Idiot. You're done after this.
649
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:31,130
I'm gonna wreck you. And me and Tom,
like, I know we forgive Jax probably too
650
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:35,030
easily sometimes, but we really did let
him have it. There was a point in this
651
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:39,290
season where I fully hated Jax. At that
point, when you were exacerbating the
652
00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:42,170
whole, like, situation, I mean, my life
was a living hell. I'm not gonna be
653
00:35:42,170 --> 00:35:44,870
melodramatic. No, I know. But there was
a point in which I hated you. Everyone
654
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:49,950
acts like I never have been mad at Jax.
And I am a Jax sympathizer. I know.
655
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:55,470
Ariana, do you wish that Tom would just
kind of cut Jax out completely as a
656
00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:57,240
friend? Sometimes. You do.
657
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,660
Sorry, Jax. It sucks, though, Jax,
because it's like when you keep doing
658
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:06,420
things, your word just becomes even more
and more less credible.
659
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,020
You know, like... I would think after
three seasons of this show, your
660
00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:14,040
credibility is pretty down here.
661
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:17,930
You don't have any remorse or say, I'm
only going to tell the truth. I do have
662
00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:19,590
remorse. Absolutely. You know what?
Again.
663
00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:23,070
I'm optimistic. Please. How many times
have I come into your house and sit
664
00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:26,110
before in the morning sobbing my eyes
out? Absolutely. How many times have we
665
00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:27,110
gone through that with him?
666
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:29,770
Jax, I'm 100 % optimistic.
667
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,230
Again, I am not trying to counteract. I
admit everything I do.
668
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:35,490
Yeah. Done it. I'm not. But I'm not
going, well, you did. Yes, I did this.
669
00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:37,850
you did this. And you did this. Why
don't you just change then?
670
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:41,050
I don't care, Jax. You still hurt
people. You hurt people in your life.
671
00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:43,090
died. Nobody got pregnant. Nobody got
divorced. Fine.
672
00:36:43,630 --> 00:36:46,310
It's all their choices. You know,
everyone makes their own choices. I'm
673
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:47,710
forcing anybody to do anything.
674
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:53,270
One thing I wanted to say is the
ultimatum that you dropped on Schwartz
675
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:54,490
final sir party.
676
00:36:55,330 --> 00:36:58,110
You said he better propose within six
months.
677
00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:01,570
Yeah. Or else you would leave him. Yeah.
678
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:05,430
Today, I'm telling you that take that
next step with me.
679
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:07,870
Otherwise, I need to move on.
680
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:09,470
You have six months.
681
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:10,950
Six months.
682
00:37:12,110 --> 00:37:13,110
So...
683
00:37:13,930 --> 00:37:19,270
By my estimation, it's been five months
and three weeks. Holy cow.
684
00:37:20,830 --> 00:37:26,630
Katie, I've been a boyfriend for the
past year, and I'll take your hand and
685
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:31,030
you to keep being my girlfriend until I
grow the balls and ask you to marry me.
686
00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:32,470
Oh, my God, I thought you were really
doing it.
687
00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:36,370
What is that? Oh, my God, I thought you
were really doing that.
688
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:43,860
I actually just became aware of that. I
was doing my math myself, and I even
689
00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:46,960
texted, I think, Arianna Sheen. I was
like, oh, my God, that's next week.
690
00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:51,300
So, Tom, I'm going to file for an, I
don't know, I'm filing for an extension.
691
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,840
mean. No, you, I said six months was
ample time to figure it out.
692
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Just be rest assured it's coming.
693
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:04,340
I've been hearing this for at least a
year. I actually, I believe him this
694
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:05,940
Yeah. It's coming. I've changed.
695
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,519
I've grown.
696
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,509
I buy it.
697
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:10,930
I have. If it's coming, why not?
698
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:13,490
I don't think you should put the
pressure on him now.
699
00:38:14,350 --> 00:38:16,730
I want to change gears for a minute.
700
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:20,670
Stassi, it seems like every time we see
you, it's the last time you're going to
701
00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:24,470
see this group. Do you feel like when
you walk out today, it'll be the last
702
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:25,470
you see everybody?
703
00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:31,110
I'm really excited to get up and walk
out of this room. You are. I've been
704
00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:32,190
miserable the whole entire time.
705
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:37,090
Is there anything that we didn't...
706
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:43,630
get through that Stassi said about any
of you this season or that you want to
707
00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:45,110
get off your chest while she's here?
708
00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:54,530
Coming up... Relationship's over. She
trashes us, she trashes sir, she trashes
709
00:38:54,530 --> 00:38:56,870
all these people. Let me finish.
710
00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:05,810
Is there anything...
711
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,520
that Stassi said about any of you this
season or that you want to get off your
712
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,580
chest while she's here?
713
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,440
When you and Kristen sat down before
that dinner with Jack, you were like, I
714
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,440
honestly encourage you to let this go.
715
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:22,160
How the hell do I get Jack to tell the
truth?
716
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:23,420
Let it go.
717
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,880
That took me by surprise.
718
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,780
You didn't say that to any consideration
for me personally or whatever. I just
719
00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:33,560
admired that, so...
720
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:36,170
I have to give it to you for that one.
721
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:41,750
Do you still feel justified in severing
the relationship in the fashion in which
722
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:43,390
you did? I don't want it to be like
this.
723
00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:46,510
I have feelings as well. I was hurt by
things too. We all know you have
724
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:50,350
because that's all you care about.
Exactly. So we all know that we're well
725
00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:52,190
because of all your concerns. Katie, I'm
not being mean to you right now.
726
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:56,090
That's my honest truth coming out is I
just find you to be selfish and only
727
00:39:56,090 --> 00:39:57,430
concerned for yourself.
728
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,320
I didn't expect it to end the way it
did. I thought you would be like,
729
00:40:02,380 --> 00:40:05,980
Stassi, I totally get why you were
frustrated. And then we'd talk about it.
730
00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:09,540
Instead, Katie told you to shut the f***
up. Yeah, so I just wanted to kiss your
731
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:10,860
ass and do what you wanted.
732
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:15,220
And you didn't admit that I was wrong
and admit guilt, but I wasn't guilty. I
733
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:18,160
wasn't wrong. I didn't change the rules
you did. We had been the same.
734
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,600
There's no rules.
735
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:20,780
No rules.
736
00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:21,820
No rules.
737
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,000
Exactly. The rules.
738
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,320
The rules.
739
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:31,030
Why don't you try to just, like, let it
go? No, but Katie, what you don't
740
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:35,170
realize is, like, I have let it go. I
was in the middle of it. You hide. You
741
00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:37,970
and hide. You came back here, and you
wouldn't talk to her. You still talk to
742
00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:41,370
him. And I know that because Christina
Kelly has apologized to me. Because you
743
00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:44,190
guys all do, too. Like, give me a break.
744
00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:48,370
Don't even compare me to you. I get
nothing but updates on how you guys just
745
00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:49,370
ripped me apart.
746
00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:53,070
And it's like, why would I have anything
nice to say about you? But I don't get
747
00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:54,170
mad at you for doing it.
748
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:58,960
Is Stassi welcome back at SIR? The
relationship's over. She trashes SIR.
749
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,620
trashes all these people. No, I do not
trash SIR. Let me finish. No, you do.
750
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:07,100
You're so disrespectful to her. You're
so disrespectful to me. I'd be nothing
751
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:08,100
but good to you.
752
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,200
That's true.
753
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Sheena, where are you with Stassi?
754
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Um, I mean, I accept your apology. I
appreciated that. And, you know, we're
755
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,600
different people who will never be
friends again. And I'm fine with that.
756
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,640
fine with that. And I wish her the best,
honestly.
757
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Well, one thing I wanted to say for the
very end.
758
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,240
Last year at this time, a lot of these
couples were in very different places.
759
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,220
Yeah. Sheena married Shay.
760
00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:35,640
Tom and Ariana are madly in love.
761
00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:39,340
Kristen and James can't keep their hands
off each other.
762
00:41:40,270 --> 00:41:45,150
These two are wallowing in love with
their dog.
763
00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:50,330
And then there's Jack. Yeah, I see it.
But still, despite all the questionable
764
00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:52,770
things that may happen under this roof.
765
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,940
Some of these relationships have not
only survived, they've thrived. Does
766
00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:58,960
give you hope for these guys?
767
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,340
Yeah, when I look at all of them, I see
there's some growth, definitely.
768
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,440
Especially with James and Schwartzy. I
think he's turned it around. Katie, a
769
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,440
thousand percent.
770
00:42:10,460 --> 00:42:12,020
Kristen, I don't know.
771
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:17,120
Stassi, I don't even want to go there
again. These guys are great. Look at
772
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:21,320
She is, and she does want the best for
everybody. You, useless, forget about
773
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,320
him. He's a lot of course.
774
00:42:23,530 --> 00:42:24,790
Well, long live Sir.
775
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:27,410
Absolutely. Should we have a toast?
776
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:34,990
Okay, so we have Peter and Shay and Ken
and Jiggy in the house. And I think some
777
00:42:34,990 --> 00:42:35,990
cocktails.
778
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:38,030
Nice.
779
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:42,390
He dumped you for welcome.
780
00:42:42,970 --> 00:42:43,970
Cheers, everybody.
781
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:45,109
Cheers, everybody.
782
00:42:45,110 --> 00:42:46,830
To all of you for a great season.
783
00:42:47,110 --> 00:42:48,110
Cheers.
784
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:54,920
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