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Coming up on the Vanderpump Rules
reunion.
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I'm not sure how much talk you're in
today.
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I don't know, we'll see. I mean, I'm
sure they'll find something to yell at
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about. You're a f***ing liar.
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Who the f*** is talking to you right
now? Shut up!
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Someone needs to be called out on their
bulls***.
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Don't even get me started on you,
because you punched me in the face
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your friend. You got a punchable face.
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I'm feeling good, except I think I
forgot a pair of pants.
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He's a dirty bad dog that will stick it
in anything.
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I'm talking about my life. Don't you
dare. The things that you're upset about
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did not happen.
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You are the biggest liar.
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Shut up, Jack. You're done after this.
I'll wreck you.
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I'd be nothing but good to you. You
dispose of people like they're nothing,
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they're things. Let me finish.
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That's called being a fucking hypocrite.
When was the last time you and Stassi
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spoke to each other? Two years. Well,
let's bring her out.
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Stassi?
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Like, are you fucking kidding me?
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Hey, everybody.
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I'm Andy Cohen, and welcome to Sur
Lounge in West Hollywood for the season
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Vanderpump Rules reunion.
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I am here with Lisa Vanderpump and the
ridiculously attractive staff of
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Sur.
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Hi, Lisa. Hey, hi. How are you?
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Great. How are you?
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Oh, nervous.
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Jack, good to see you. Good to see you.
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Where are things with Carmen right now?
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I don't know.
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When was the last time you saw her?
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Last night.
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Oh. Oh.
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Hi, Sheena Shay. Hi. I loved watching
your wedding. Thank you.
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Tom and Ariana, are you living together?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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In your apartment, Tom? Mm -hmm. Did you
at least get a new mattress for the two
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of you? Or are you?
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One would hope, right? That's enough.
Well, all of my stuff is now in there.
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my mattress resides in the apartment.
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Hi, Tom Schwartz. Hey. What's up, Andy?
We have two Toms here today. So I'm just
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going to.
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Call you Schwartz for the day.
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Or I could be number one, Tom number
one. No, no. We already know that I'm
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number one.
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All right.
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How's it going, Katie?
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Good. Do you have the ring that Schwartz
gave you?
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Yes. Oh, that's nice. Well, it's not
that. That one I bought for myself, the
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pretty one. This little one is the one
that he gave me.
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Hi, Kristen.
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Hi, Andy. Weird to be in, sir, after
you're not working here?
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I mean, at this point, no, not really. I
kind of, I visit once in a while. I
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keep an eye on her. I was going to say,
when Kristen walks in, do you... Yeah,
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absolutely. She knows she's got to
behave herself.
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Last but not least, James, welcome to
your first reunion. Thank you very much.
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feel very welcome. Good luck. Good.
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Noticeably missing from this group is
Dossie.
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Oh, forgot about her.
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In just a bit, Stassi will be joining
the group.
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I don't think that the two of you
interacted at all this season. When was
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last time you and Stassi spoke to each
other? I had a conversation two years,
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maybe. Oh, you ran into her.
Interesting, Jack. I ran into her, but
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it. You told Carmen that you had lunch
with her.
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I never had lunch with Carmen. Well, you
told me that she called you just before
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filming.
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She never called me before filming. You
told me that you guys got married last
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week. I just made the mistake of
forgetting that there's no simple answer
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you ask Jax a question.
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So I want to reset and talk about when
we last got together.
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We were all kind of dealing with the
revelation that Jax and Kristen had
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slept together.
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And no one here liked either of you at
that moment.
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Yet, when the season started, Jax was
pretty much back in with everybody, but
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Kristen had a hard time winning people
back.
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Kristen, how did it feel for you to be
the pariah of the group and see
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kind of accepting Jax again?
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I just think it's really interesting how
everyone is still best friends with Jax
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when he's single -handedly.
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Dub every one of their friendships and
relationships and it had nothing to do
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with me. I guess it's just Jack. Wait,
what?
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You guys were co -conspirators, weren't
you?
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What I was so interested in at the top
of the season was that, Tom, here you
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with your best friend of 10 years who
slept with your girlfriend twice while
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you were with her.
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How did you forgive him? You know, Jack
does...
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put me through some bullshit and does
stir the pot and all that shit. I don't
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think, he doesn't do it maliciously or
out of spite or anger or hatred.
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He does it because of insecurity,
really, I feel like.
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Well, you don't sleep with somebody
else's girlfriend out of insecurity.
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He did that because he doesn't give a
damn.
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It also comes down to how hot you are.
To be honest, hot people like fucking
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people.
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That's just what humans do.
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What? At the end of the day, you know,
he was drunk. His insecurities come out
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when he's drunk. I was on his couch for
four days downing bottles of vodka. I
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was going through a breakup with Stassi
through hell. It was my first serious
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breakup, and it was the first. It was
really bad.
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Everybody knows that breakup with Stassi
was hell.
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Suffice to say, hot people like f***ing
hot people.
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Okay. Kristen, right before Sheena's
birthday, you decided to tell her
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everything you knew about Tom allegedly
cheating on Ariana.
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In Miami.
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What was it that you had said? Well,
I'll just read exactly what she wrote.
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I said, I really do appreciate you
talking to me about this. I had to ask.
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didn't know if it was true.
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She said, you fucked it, right?
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She said, yes.
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What was interesting to me is that
Sheena told you everything that she had
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heard. Everything that she had heard
that I had already heard. Okay.
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She showed you text messages. That I had
already seen.
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Fairly damning. They were not. Okay.
Because they're completely innocuous.
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never. lost faith that tom was being
honest with you and
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didn't cheat on you why is that it's not
about faith it's about one person
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being honest and multiple other people
who have nothing to do with anything
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stories that don't add up that
contradict each other I've never put
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situation where she's really got to go
out on a limb to trust me. Like, I make
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it very easy for her. That being said,
you have cheated on girlfriends in the
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past, one of whom is in this room.
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So would it be impossible for you to
think that he could have cheated on you?
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Nothing is impossible.
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That's not really the point.
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There's an ancient Chinese proverb that
says, just because you cheat doesn't
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make you a cheater.
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Are those the words that you live by?
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No, I think what he's trying to say is
correlation is not causation. Correct?
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Yes, but hot people like to fuck other
hot people.
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Well, then in this situation, we're good
because that chick is not hot.
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That's actually very true.
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Tom, how frustrating is it for you to
have your ex -girlfriend...
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playing private detective.
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It's obviously a little frustrating, but
what the more frustrating thing is
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this, like, sort of if you don't have
evidence, you just lie and say you do.
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I'm wondering, like, why you actually
brought this girl in when you said she
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needs to clear her name.
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Clear her name from what?
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I didn't bring her in. She's the one who
put it out there. Yeah, exactly. She's
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the one that sold the stories to the
tabloid for money.
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Can you just tell us how you found...
And I'm not being dismissive. How did
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find these girls when you three were in
Vegas?
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They did.
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They approached you guys when you were
in Vegas.
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Miami, whatever.
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This is what I'm tired of. I'm tired of
people talking about a situation that
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they were not present for and have no...
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Because you're talking about facts.
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You're talking about facts. I am talking
about facts. I was the one person who
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was there. You weren't there.
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You weren't there. You weren't there. I
was with Tom the whole night. I know
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it's more exciting if there's an element
of doubt lingering.
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But it didn't happen.
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OK, let's put a pin in that, because we
are definitely going to talk about this
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later in detail.
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Jax, I want to talk about your nose.
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Take this the right way, but it doesn't
look that different to me. It doesn't
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look different. It looks a lot
different, actually. I can tell on
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Look how straight that thing is. I can't
tell a single difference between the
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old and new note.
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Seems like no one really bought your
deviated septum.
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So what do you want to know? Are you
going to ask me if I've ever done drugs?
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And are you asking me that? No, he's
not.
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Oh, because I'll tell you, your nose
didn't cave in from cocaine or something
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like that. No, not that I know of. But
you did sound like you had a cold before
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you had it. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yeah.
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In fairness to Jax, a lot of you have
done work to your face. No plastic
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surgery. No plastic surgery.
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I think Doc is the only one who's had
plastic surgery.
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OK. I've just had Botox. I love Botox.
Standoval, you don't do any Botox on
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forehead? Nothing. I mean, I'm not
opposed to it. I've just not done it
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Okay, Sheena and Kristen, you're both
young. Why do you do Botox?
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Preventative. Yeah, preventative.
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I have no wrinkles.
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I don't have any wrinkles.
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Okay, let me ask you about something
else. So James, at Sheena's birthday,
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was your big gripe about Tom and the car
selfies?
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Let me, listen, listen.
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Tom came up to me. He couldn't think of
anything better to say than say, go take
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another Beamer selfie.
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James, go take a Beamer selfie or
something.
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Oh, Beamer selfie?
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Go take a Beamer selfie. I'm going to
take a Honda Civic selfie, man. OK,
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Just so happened that week, I bought my
first car that I've been saving up for.
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I did get an apartment of my own. And it
was him saying, oh.
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James is going out with Kristen, not
only does he live with his parents and
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hasn't got a bloody car, it's like, I
don't live with my parents, I do have a
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car, and it's way nicer than your Civic,
okay?
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So I really had nothing better to say
than say, go take a Civic selfie, you
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what I mean? Like, I couldn't take
something else. But to be honest, for
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set you off, mate, I mean... That's not
what set him off. That is not what
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happened. All I wanted to say was, hey,
can you please just leave me alone and
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mind your own business? You beelined it.
Oh, God. You beelined it from the DJ
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booth, stepped in front of Kristen, and
is like, hey, what do you want, dude?
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What do you want? And she even told you.
She's like, James, James, stop, James.
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You're like, what, dude?
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Okay, first of all, English people don't
say dude.
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That's what you said.
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Talk about what? Talk about what, son?
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What does he want to talk to you about?
Your 51 -year -old son.
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James,
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did you come in to Sheena's birthday
looking for a fight? No.
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You were provoking him. Yeah.
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If I tried provoking you right now, I'd
be doing a lot more than go in a safe
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and go take a civic selfie, mate. That
was not it.
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Regardless,
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you were the one that came out with
scars on your face, bro. It was you and
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face getting tall, making yourself big.
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No, I wasn't trying to make myself big.
You were overcompensating.
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Don't even get me started on you because
you punched me in the face sticking up
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for your friend. You got a punchable
face.
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Shut up, Jack. Shut up? You've been here
for five minutes. Five minutes.
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You clearly also don't know how to tell
the time, bro.
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You've been here for five minutes.
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Shoot. Okay, I think this may be a good
time to take a break.
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Coming up, let's talk about Miami.
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I really wanted Casey to go. The fact
that Schwartzy would go without her. If
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would have gone, it would have been a
one -way street.
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I'm not a bad person. You're incapable
of being nice about anything that
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center around yourself.
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We're back with Lisa and the staff from
CERN.
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Jax, you were dating two women at the
same time. Did they really know about
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other? Yeah, Tiffany and Carmen both
knew.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There's no lying. There's no deceiving.
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This is all going to end terribly.
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I mean, it always does with Jax and the
women he dates.
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That doesn't make any sense to me. Like,
if they both know about each other,
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then it's OK.
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I mean, it's not Utah.
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You can't just have more than one woman
and have it be okay. Not when you were
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dating Carmen, I bet. I don't know, but
you're just being like the kind of girl
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that would. Yeah, Kristen, you're good
friends with Carmen. Was she aware that
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Jax was dating Tiffany at the same time?
She was, because she said, unless you
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break up with her, stop talking to me.
What did she think about that, that he
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was dating Tiffany at the same time? I
mean, watching the show, it's
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embarrassing for her. It's humiliating.
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It's so embarrassing that she was with
me last night, huh?
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Okay.
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Well, I'm not saying that it changes the
fact that you guys still hang out. I'm
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just saying it is embarrassing for her.
It's not fun to watch.
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Jax, when you broke up with Carmen, that
didn't go so good.
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No.
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After this, like, I don't want to see
you again.
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Why? Because I don't like you.
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You're 35 years old.
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Stop with the partying.
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She really let you have it.
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Oh, of course. I mean, I deserved it.
How did that make you feel? Did any of
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that penetrate?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Their breakup was hilarious.
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When you said, you're going to law
school, I mean, I'm not going to be
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for that.
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I offended Carmen terribly. I met her in
public.
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I met Carmen last year at a bar, and she
came up to me and said, I'm Jax
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Taylor's girlfriend.
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And I said, well, that's a very long
list.
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And she did not like that. She knows
what I'm doing. It's not a secret who I
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or what I'm doing. I agree. It's not a
secret. It doesn't take a rocket science
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to figure out who I am and what I'm
doing.
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You have said you're going to take the
Clooney route, and you're not going to
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get married anytime soon.
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God, no. Your comments about
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Amal Clooney were very interesting.
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A human rights lawyer? How boring is
that?
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I'm like, don't do it. Don't do it.
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Can you imagine the stack?
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Which makes me think that you don't want
to sleep with smart women.
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I don't think smart women want to sleep
with me. There we go. That's true.
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Well said. Well said, yeah. That's
funny.
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Let's talk about the boys' trip to San
Diego.
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Jax's girlfriend, Tiffany, hooked you
all up with a pretty sweet suite, right?
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It was really nice. Yeah, it was really
nice. So Jax, tell me exactly what
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happened with you and the girl in the
bathroom.
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I mean, it seemed like you banged her.
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So are you admitting it, or?
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No, but I understand why they were.
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So you denied that it happened.
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Yes, it did not happen. But I understand
why they were coming at me. Of course,
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I had it coming to me.
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Schwartz, is that true? We don't know
exactly what happened. Oh, come on.
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You were pretty convicted during the
season that you knew what happened.
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I'm sorry, were you there? I watched the
show.
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Sandoval, tell me exactly what happened
with Jack and the girl that he brought
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back to the room.
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I've already told you, but we went back
to the room and the girl and Jack were
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in the bathroom and came out and...
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Sweating. I was sweating. I know the
situation would look really bad.
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Why would you go in the bathroom with
her if she's puking? She had her hair,
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I was holding her to let her puke. Her
friends were with her. I felt so bad
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I called Tiffany and I told her.
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I think it was actually very gentleman
-like of him to go help her with her
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and to walk her out of the bathroom. I
thought it was very gentleman -like.
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girl must have some really interesting
puke noises.
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What did you say? Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah?
It's a baby.
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Listen, regardless of what happened, we
just wanted to teach him a lesson.
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Jax had been meddling in our
relationships, and I guess we wanted to
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him what it's like.
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But at least I did it to his face.
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I didn't just go and tell people and
then walk away and be like, I don't know
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where people are getting that from.
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Jax, I have to say, go
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call Tiffany in the car.
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and take her through what had happened
in San Diego.
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And though she already knew what had
happened, because you had just told the
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guys, oh yeah, she knows everything.
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I took her into the bathroom to throw
up, and I shut the door, and I'm like,
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off me, get off me.
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Well,
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I might have left out a little bit of
detail.
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He truly just says what...
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ever he wants to at that time, what
suits him. But he never realizes all the
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damage, the carnage it leaves in the
past.
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Who believes Jax?
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Anyone?
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Okay.
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So let's talk about Miami.
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Sheena, you wanted to do a joint
bachelor, bachelorette party. Was that
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you could keep your eye on Shay?
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No, not necessarily.
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I mean, I trust him completely.
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And all of his friends are my friends as
well. So it just made sense to do a
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joint party.
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Kristen, it seemed like you were in and
out and in again.
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Did you feel like you were always
walking on eggshells? Yeah, a little
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mean, I do see the point that she had
and how it was really hard for her.
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Because the truth was, as far as the
girls were concerned, I wasn't friends
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anybody.
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I loved seeing you all on the boat
cruise. That was so much fun. That was
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best part of Miami.
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Katie,
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was that a moment that you kind of
wished that Stassi had been at?
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Of course, it would have been nice to
have her along, absolutely, but I was
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of more relishing in the moment, being
like, I'm so happy I'm here. I'm so
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I made this decision.
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This is exactly where I should be.
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I really wanted Casey to go as well, and
I felt the fact that Schwartzy would go
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without her.
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I was bluffing. No, you weren't. You
would have gone without her.
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If he would have gone, it would have
been a one -way street.
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Well, wouldn't Casey?
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Probably not.
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Well... Miami wasn't all good times.
When the question came up of what
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in San Diego, Tom, Jax immediately
brought up the Miami rumors about you.
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You definitely railed the shit out of
that girl in the bathroom. I did not. We
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don't talk about what happened in Miami.
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Is that kind of typical Jax behavior?
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Yeah. When Jax gets back in the corner
hole...
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Say anything.
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Deflect. Boom, boom, boom.
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Panic, panic, panic, panic.
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Well, Schwartz, you were kind of
shrinking in your seat when this was
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Were you worried that Jax was going to
bring up your dirty laundry? Well, I
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guess in the back of my head, there was
that concern.
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He has wounded animal syndrome when he's
cornered, and he can be vicious.
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James, you were so amused with what was
going on, you started texting Kristen.
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What were you thinking Kristen was going
to do with that information?
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To be honest, I honestly am very
innocent in that sense. Like, as much as
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everyone likes to gossip and stuff, I
wasn't texting Kristen so she can go
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other people. I was texting Kristen
because... You don't think that was
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No, no, no, no. No, but you did leave
your phone on the table when you went to
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the bathroom.
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Um, I'm going to go to the restroom.
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You guys, I'm breaking into Kristen's
phone.
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A lot of viewers called BS on that. I
know. And you left it on the table.
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So that...
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they would see what happened. So I
expect someone to go through my phone?
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you ever go through your phone? I
wouldn't go through yours.
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I mean, I think it's weird that you left
your phone unlocked.
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If I wanted to make a spectacle of it
and, like, try to upset her or embarrass
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anyone or make it a thing, I would have
set it at the table. Would any of you
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put it past me to do it right then and
there? Well, do you think when you left
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it on the table, there was any chance
that they might go through it?
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not.
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Coming up, did you ever...
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Have sexual relations with John.
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Tom, you said a few kind of suspicious
things at that dinner in Miami to Jack
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that made you seem a little guilty.
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I shouldn't have to ask you to lie for
me. Stop ratting us out.
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I'm just saying, stop ratting us out.
Stop throwing us under the bus. Stop
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causing... Stop... All those things were
said in that whole time.
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Yeah, but why are you saying stop
ratting us out and stop trying us out?
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ratted me out. He has ratted me out.
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About what?
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The point is, these are all things that
have accumulated over a very long time
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of them being friends.
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Yeah. So in that conversation, this
isn't about this. I wasn't just
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one thing. I'm referring to a whole span
of things.
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Jax, what did you think that Tom was
talking about?
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I knew exactly what he was saying. I was
retaliating. So he's basically just
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saying, let's stop just doing the stupid
shit that I've been doing. If I was
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worried about Jax having any kind of
dirt on me, I obviously would have never
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done that.
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Oh, it gives me a break.
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Establishing bro code again.
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Way to cover each other's arses until
one of you fall, and then you all fall
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together, you know? Shut up, James.
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But there was a really bad cheating
history.
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You had month -long affairs with guys.
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We were toxic to each other. Fair
enough. I'm not denying anything. You're
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one who sits in denial.
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I'm not sitting in denial.
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One thing I can say is the fact that Tom
and Ariana worked for me for a long
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time.
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And they were always accused of having
an affair together.
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And I know for a fact that they weren't
together and they weren't guilty of what
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she's accused them of.
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And you still believe that they did
sleep together when you were with Tom?
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I do believe that.
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But at this point in time, after we've
now been broken up for well over a year,
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it doesn't matter to me anymore. I don't
think it matters at all. It doesn't
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matter then. Why did the girl from Miami
come here?
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I mean, but clearly at the time, I was
livid. I was pissed. And it's not a
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normal circumstance that you have to
work with your ex -boyfriend and his
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current girlfriend, who clearly had
something going on behind my back.
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They were best friends. Let's go ahead
and stop you there.
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I mean, let's be honest. The night that
we actually broke up, you guys all went
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out, and I was not with you. And that
night, you didn't come home. And the
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morning of, when you finally did come
home, and I asked you, did you see
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last night? Were you hanging out with
her? And you said no.
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You said, no, I wasn't with her. I
wasn't with her. And I said, where did
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sleep last night? You said Sheena's.
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And I found that he, in fact, was at
Ariana's until 8 o 'clock in the
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If you want to make an inference, that's
fine.
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If you're up to 8 a .m., I hope you're
not playing cards to 8 a .m., darling.
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Considering that this was the first time
that Tom and I had spoken since the
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night that my dad died, there was a lot
that we wanted to talk about. There was
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a lot going on.
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According to his phone, that wasn't true
at the time. According to my phone,
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that is not... Stop throwing these
little sidewinders in there. Seriously.
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do that all the fucking time.
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Like, stop doing that.
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There was nothing on my phone that said
anything.
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I mean, I was hanging out with her.
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You also implied that there was an
affair going on before that. That's what
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implied. A lot.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, which is definitely not true.
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And I think there are three truths.
There's my truth, his truth, and the
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truth. Your truth.
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Your truth is in your own mind, Kristen.
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Stop with the antics and stop yelling.
You don't get to yell at me anymore.
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Okay, Kristen.
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Oh, God.
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Okay, let's switch gears for a second.
In Miami, we actually got to meet
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jacks from your past, a guy named John.
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There he is. Hey.
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What's up, man?
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John. See you, dude.
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Tom, can you tell us who this gentleman
John is?
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00:23:51,980 --> 00:23:56,160
John takes care of million -dollar
condos, as well as he's tied in with the
452
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,700
agencies, photographers,
453
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,080
designers, all in Miami. He's kind of a
socialite.
454
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:06,220
Jax, you lived with John. I lived with
John for a little while, yeah. He had
455
00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:09,140
apartments, and then he had rooms that
he would rent out to models.
456
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000
So you lived in his room. You used to
live with John.
457
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,480
I didn't live in his room. John said he
lived in his room. I never lived in his
458
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200
room. I'm sorry, were you there in 2003?
I was there.
459
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,920
Who the fuck is talking to you right
now?
460
00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:23,360
Nobody. Stop.
461
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,520
Okay, Jax, let me cut to the chase.
462
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,840
Go on, why don't you?
463
00:24:28,220 --> 00:24:35,100
Did you ever have sexual relations with
John? Absolutely not. No.
464
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:40,500
But you kissed him. Yeah, like peck on
the, yeah, peck, yeah. It seemed like
465
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:43,700
had something deeper because he said, I
still love you.
466
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:45,460
Come here. You know what?
467
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,160
I love you because I'm over you.
468
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,940
And I still love you as much as I did in
the first place. I'm a bigger person
469
00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:54,900
now. I was so young and I just wanted to
do it right off the bat.
470
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,820
I came from Michigan, okay? We didn't,
this is the first modeling.
471
00:24:59,930 --> 00:25:04,170
gay man i've ever came across so i was
you know i didn't understand like oh i
472
00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:07,830
you know i was being friendly okay the
first gay man you ever came across came
473
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:12,150
across yeah he's just admitted it andy i
did not just admit anything what are
474
00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:17,450
you talking about he said he's the first
guy you ever came across you
475
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:23,930
were a bit naive at that moment just
fresh off the boat 22 years old
476
00:25:24,370 --> 00:25:28,230
because you were so kind of nonchalant
about the idea that you had kissed. I've
477
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:32,950
kissed a lot of my gay friends on the
lips. I still do to this day. Do you
478
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:34,550
to kiss right now? Do you want to make
out? That's cool.
479
00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:36,330
Oh, stop getting in my way.
480
00:25:37,030 --> 00:25:43,610
I just thought, you know what? Jack
seems like the kind of guy that would
481
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:45,530
a mouth is a mouth.
482
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,440
A hole is a hole.
483
00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:51,600
I'm going to go where someone will have
me.
484
00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:54,100
Tattoo inspiration. I thought we were
buddies.
485
00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:57,660
That's what I kind of thought. I thought
we were like, you know? That's the
486
00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:01,360
impression that he gives. That's the
impression that you give. I mean, I
487
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:02,360
we all know I love women.
488
00:26:02,650 --> 00:26:04,970
Very much. Yes, we do. We're not
questioning. Okay.
489
00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:10,330
Lisa, where do you stand here? Well, I
don't know. I mean, he's a dirty, bad
490
00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:12,810
that will stick it in anything that
moves, right?
491
00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:17,030
And so, obviously, when I saw the
footage and the way this guy was kind of
492
00:26:17,030 --> 00:26:22,150
intimate with you and intimated that
you'd had some kind of more in -depth
493
00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:25,010
relationship, I'm just saying that's
what I got from him.
494
00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:26,630
Y 'all can believe what you want to
believe.
495
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:33,220
Okay. Well, we saw Sandoval tell Ariana
all about Jackson's relationship with
496
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:38,360
John in the back of the taxi cab, but
also you broke down because you felt
497
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:42,220
stressed out about the time that you
were spending with Kristen.
498
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,800
I'm, like, sitting in the shower and
just, like, crying by myself because my
499
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,880
stomach hurts so bad all the time. I'm
just, like, waiting for...
500
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Whatever. Your crocodile tears in the
back of the cab.
501
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,420
Crocodile tears. She never cries.
502
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,260
Give me a break. Give me a break. No,
I'm not going to give you a break.
503
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,380
It's just so over the top. No, it's over
the top. It's your continuous... You
504
00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:07,800
know me so well. But you said that I
did, and that's not okay. But I'm
505
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,800
to have my opinion.
506
00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:13,740
Kristen, had I heard you making comments
about me being hit by a truck?
507
00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:18,900
I do wish she would get hit by a Mack
truck or something.
508
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,540
She's a homewrecking whore.
509
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,880
She's got to go.
510
00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:25,700
I think we all need to, like, take it
down a notch and, like, have a little
511
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:29,000
of a sense of humor when you're saying I
was physically threatening you. Like,
512
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:29,999
give me a break.
513
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,640
I was being facetious. I'm talking about
Kristen.
514
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:35,880
I just watched you punch people at
Sheena's birthday party. I really don't
515
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,420
it's that far -fetched. For someone
who's so, like, factual and smarter than
516
00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:42,140
everyone here and everyone that you
know, clearly. Oh, stupid. I should
517
00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:45,100
have said that. That was really dumb.
Well, you did, and you say it on repeat.
518
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:46,560
Oh, let's quote you, Kristen.
519
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,580
She said she's smarter than every person
she's ever met.
520
00:27:49,950 --> 00:27:50,789
I'm not stupid.
521
00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:54,150
I'm smarter than every person I've ever
met in my life.
522
00:27:54,570 --> 00:27:58,430
Yeah, and then when I heard myself say
that, I was like, oh, give me a break.
523
00:27:59,910 --> 00:28:05,290
Tom, you had an interesting response
after you saw how upset Ariana was in
524
00:28:05,290 --> 00:28:06,290
taxi cab.
525
00:28:06,550 --> 00:28:12,050
Instead of causing a big scene, you
waited until the end of the night, and
526
00:28:12,050 --> 00:28:17,010
had an emotionally raw discussion
with... Kristen.
527
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:20,430
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we didn't work
out.
528
00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:25,430
There were times where I thought we were
going to spend the rest of our lives
529
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:26,430
together.
530
00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:28,590
Where were those tears coming from?
531
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:34,470
When I broke up with Kristen, I was very
just cut it off, and I was very cold
532
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:35,269
about it.
533
00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:39,530
And the reason why that was the case is
because I had tried breaking up with her
534
00:28:39,530 --> 00:28:40,710
numerous times in the past.
535
00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:42,870
You never broke up with me in the past.
Yes, I did.
536
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:45,250
Yes, I did. Okay, go on. And anyway.
537
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,720
I felt like I'd never had that sort of
closure, heart -to -heart conversation
538
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,780
with her. I feel like I tried everything
when we were together, and it's like
539
00:28:53,780 --> 00:28:58,560
even after we broke up, I feel like I
tried everything to get her to move on
540
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,700
to be the best, like, ex -boyfriend I
could possibly be.
541
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,200
And it was just all in vain.
542
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,360
It's a conversation that, like, I don't
know, didn't really have to happen, in
543
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,700
my opinion. I thought it was bollocks.
544
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,160
But you were there all weekend, didn't
you? You saw all the comments. Dude, no.
545
00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:18,880
I don't dude me. I've told you. No, I'm
sorry. Did I say that? Yes. You saw her
546
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,880
session with Tom.
547
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,140
Yeah. I mean, I thought they were going
to have a very different conversation.
548
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,360
I thought...
549
00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:26,340
You know, Kristen was feeding me crap.
550
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:30,080
I felt like I was kind of being tangled
on a bit of a fishing pole with that
551
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,480
one. But for me to find out later that
Kristen, you know, was wiping his tears
552
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,820
off his face, it's like, please, please.
553
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,560
It made me sick to my stomach. Okay,
because she was kissing me goodnight in
554
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,700
that night, telling me that she loves
me, telling me sweet dreams.
555
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,460
Right, so do you feel that she's moved
on? Yes, she's 100 % moved on. She's
556
00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:50,820
over heels for me, and we're in love
together, yes.
557
00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:56,590
But by the way, I have to think that
watching this season was pretty annoying
558
00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:59,430
for you. It was awful. Watching your
girlfriend obsessed over her ex
559
00:29:59,430 --> 00:30:00,149
It was awful.
560
00:30:00,150 --> 00:30:02,030
Put yourself in my shoes for a second.
It's not nice.
561
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:07,930
Well, while that talk was going on,
Katie, you were trying to have a talk
562
00:30:07,930 --> 00:30:12,870
someone who you thought was your very
good friend, Stassi.
563
00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:14,450
Is that a reason you're calling?
564
00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:19,810
Well, yeah, because I haven't been able
to talk to you in a while.
565
00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:21,330
Okay.
566
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,540
So I'm going to go.
567
00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:31,100
How did you expect Stassi to react to
the news that you were going to Miami
568
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,920
Sheena and Jax and the gang?
569
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,740
I knew she wasn't going to be happy
about it, but I thought she really would
570
00:30:36,740 --> 00:30:39,840
have realized it was a personal
decision. I was making it for myself,
571
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,360
relationship. It was what I needed to
do.
572
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400
But also, she worked with all these
people every day.
573
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,580
Stassi walked away, went to New York,
and she was with all these guys.
574
00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:54,420
Schwartz, how upset during the Miami
trip was Katie about Stassi blowing her
575
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,720
off? She was distraught because that
friendship ran deep. And for Stassi just
576
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,720
cut it off.
577
00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:03,110
In such a cold and calculated way. It
was so callous.
578
00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:06,070
Stassi should have been mortified for
the way she was behaving.
579
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,790
And it's ironic because she's bragging
all season about how she's grown, right?
580
00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:11,250
How she's better than us. Yeah.
581
00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:14,410
And her actions just show the complete
opposite.
582
00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:19,350
Okay, we're going to pause for a minute.
And when we come back, Stassi will join
583
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:20,350
the group.
584
00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:22,129
Up next.
585
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:25,390
You could have said, you know what? Jax,
I'm sorry. I can't talk to you anymore.
586
00:31:25,450 --> 00:31:28,070
That's all I needed. Closure. That's
fine. Jax, you don't deserve anything
587
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:29,070
me.
588
00:31:34,170 --> 00:31:38,550
I know you all have things you want to
say to Stassi, and she's here.
589
00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:47,050
And we will bring her out after the
break. Can we get a drink first?
590
00:31:53,070 --> 00:31:55,990
I feel like a fire -breathing dragon.
591
00:31:56,670 --> 00:31:59,670
Are we not allowed to talk? We are
allowed to talk. We can talk about
592
00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:00,670
we want.
593
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,110
I don't want to... Jack, stop being a
pussy.
594
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:08,810
I'm about to go rogue again.
595
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:11,750
I got 50 bucks because Dossie walked
out. You're on.
596
00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:23,090
We are back at SUR for the Vanderpump
Rules
597
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:24,090
reunion.
598
00:32:24,580 --> 00:32:29,300
And we switch things up a little bit
because Stassi is going to be joining us
599
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:30,360
just a moment.
600
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:33,900
Jax, do you have any love for her?
601
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:36,840
Oh, I always love her. It was a part of
my life, just like anything else, you
602
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,460
know, in relationships you have. Of
course, I just love her.
603
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:43,340
Again, I always have this thing with me,
with her. She could stab me in the back
604
00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:45,920
and ask for something and I would do it.
I don't know why, it's just something
605
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,920
with her that I just, I would always be
there if she needed me. Regardless of
606
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,300
what she says about me, she can say all
she wants. I would still be there.
607
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:56,480
Lisa, do you think that Jax would take
Stassi back?
608
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:57,860
Maybe not now.
609
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,700
Jax, you wouldn't? No, no, no. I'm
saying being up there as a friend. I
610
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,580
she's going through a lot, whatever she
may or may not say. It's been a three
611
00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:05,900
crazy couple years for her.
612
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,980
Lisa, why do you think Stassi's been so
tough on Katie?
613
00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:14,760
Because Katie didn't do exactly what she
wanted. And I really felt with Katie
614
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:20,820
that she was kind of subservient to
Stassi. The whole issue over her going
615
00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:25,020
Miami, which I encourage. She works with
all these kids. Stassi had left and
616
00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:26,020
gone to New York.
617
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,340
And I think for Katie to go with
Schwartzy and to be with all of them and
618
00:33:30,340 --> 00:33:34,180
them to be friends wasn't a bad thing.
She stood up to her, and I totally
619
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:35,180
support that.
620
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,700
Because I think she's been a damn good
friend to her. And I feel that we really
621
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:41,780
have seen the kind of emancipation of
Katie.
622
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:45,860
Any hope for your friendship with
Dossie, Sheena? No. God, no.
623
00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:49,640
She's a fucking hypocrite. But you were
a bitch about her the whole season,
624
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,900
Sheena. So were you, Kristen.
625
00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:56,440
Dossie can't be friends with me because
I was friends with you. You know why.
626
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,980
She's a fucking hypocrite. Don't fucking
go there. And I'll say it to her face
627
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:01,540
when she sits her ass down. Okay, I want
to put a pin in this.
628
00:34:01,930 --> 00:34:07,510
I know you all have things you want to
say to Stassi, and she's here, so let's
629
00:34:07,510 --> 00:34:08,510
bring her out.
630
00:34:08,530 --> 00:34:09,530
Stassi?
631
00:34:11,770 --> 00:34:14,710
Hi. Hi. Nice to see you. Nice to see
you, too.
632
00:34:15,310 --> 00:34:16,989
How are you? Have a seat next to me.
633
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:18,149
Thank you.
634
00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:19,770
How do you feel being back?
635
00:34:20,330 --> 00:34:23,989
Good. I mean, it's kind of odd. I
haven't seen anyone in a really long
636
00:34:24,290 --> 00:34:27,350
Do you even remember what Jax looks like
at this point? I do. I've watched the
637
00:34:27,350 --> 00:34:28,350
show. Oh, you have?
638
00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:29,770
I have, yeah. Oh, okay, good.
639
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,739
Stassi, what was the big deal about
seeing Jack? It seems like you went to
640
00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:37,699
pain to avoid him this season. That's an
understatement.
641
00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:38,859
Uh -huh.
642
00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:44,420
The night that you had the third part of
the 10 -year reunion, there was a look
643
00:34:44,420 --> 00:34:47,800
of fear where you, like, had to get out
immediately.
644
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Absolutely. I
645
00:34:51,120 --> 00:35:05,120
psyched
646
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,300
myself out so much because I've been
used to this being about me and Jack.
647
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:11,480
did not want that anymore.
648
00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:14,180
That's it. I did not want that anymore.
649
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,160
The fact that you were going to such
great lengths.
650
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:21,390
To stay away from me, I thought that was
just a little bit much. Honestly, two
651
00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:22,390
major reasons.
652
00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:28,170
OK. Most importantly, he makes up lies
about people, manipulates the situation.
653
00:35:28,510 --> 00:35:31,570
And then, I mean, I feel like everyone's
been a victim of that. And I'm not
654
00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:35,290
going to willingly put myself in a
situation that allows him to do that to
655
00:35:35,470 --> 00:35:36,610
And then secondly.
656
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,080
I'm in a relationship with somebody I
really love and really respect. And I
657
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,920
didn't feel right hanging out with an ex
-boyfriend.
658
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,460
So, Stassi, let me ask you about your
mystery boyfriend, Patrick.
659
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,880
Okay. Why did he move to L .A.? Well, he
started a new radio show. Uh -huh. And
660
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,980
that involved him being in the West
Coast.
661
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:56,960
Why didn't we ever see him on the show?
662
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:03,060
He's a real man.
663
00:36:03,779 --> 00:36:06,880
I don't understand how after everything
that happened, you were talking to me
664
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,780
fine. Then as soon as you got in that
relationship, as soon, and you didn't
665
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:13,420
me. Absolutely. That was fine. As soon
as you got in, that's fine. It just
666
00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:14,620
his insecurity, really.
667
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,620
If you're secure in your relationship,
why can't you be like, you know what? Go
668
00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:18,618
do what you got to do.
669
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:20,240
I trust you. You're my girlfriend.
670
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,260
Go do what you got to do. Get your
closure lunch out of the way or whatever
671
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:26,640
got to do. And that's all I was looking.
How's the dog? How's everything going?
672
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:28,700
How's your family? That's it. Shake
hands. Walk away.
673
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,500
That's all I wanted. That was it. I
don't really give a shit.
674
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:37,310
Did you feel threatened in your
relationship by your boyfriend saying,
675
00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:39,390
seriously, this is not going to work?
676
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:43,030
No, he never gave me an ultimatum, but
it's something that...
677
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:47,230
I would expect the same thing. I would
expect the same thing. I would not be
678
00:36:47,230 --> 00:36:51,250
okay with my boyfriend filming with his
ex -girlfriend and being like, I
679
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:53,330
wouldn't feel comfortable. Like, this is
my life.
680
00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:57,010
We all put our lives out here, Stassi.
Like, you know everything.
681
00:36:57,250 --> 00:37:02,270
But as soon as anything remotely gets a
little choppy for you, you storm off and
682
00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:07,330
call us all idiots and psychos. I mean,
I've heard rumors that, like, if your
683
00:37:07,330 --> 00:37:11,050
boyfriend sees you in a room with Jax,
he will break up with you immediately.
684
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,840
I've heard that. OK, well there are
rumors about everything.
685
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,300
What's your reaction to that?
686
00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:16,580
I understand that you're in a
relationship.
687
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,340
I respect that. It's been three years. I
think we can all get over whatever
688
00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:23,300
happened. I just wanted to see how you
were in life. That was it. And I dropped
689
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,860
an email to you and I was nice. I'm
like, hey, if you need anything, let me
690
00:37:25,860 --> 00:37:29,300
know. You could have said, you know
what, Jack, I'm sorry. Thank you for
691
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:32,280
this. I don't really can't talk to you
anymore. That's all I needed. I have no
692
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,960
idea what you're talking about. You must
have been blocked at the time. I
693
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,959
emailed you.
694
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,819
You're blocked.
695
00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:39,980
I don't have any communication with you.
Okay, closure. That's fine. You don't
696
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:42,480
deserve anything from me. Did you call
Jack and ask him for money?
697
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,240
Absolutely.
698
00:37:46,299 --> 00:37:50,000
Because he started punching holes in
walls. No. And yet, I called him and I
699
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,200
said, you are going to pay me for this.
I'm sorry. But what is that even like?
700
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:54,300
You called me up crying.
701
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,880
Jax, I mean, what did I do? No problem.
Cut the check. Gave it right to you. No
702
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,780
problem. OK, but what does this have
anything to do with anything?
703
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,500
You stormed out. Jax, you don't deserve
anything from me.
704
00:38:02,740 --> 00:38:06,840
OK. You literally don't deserve anything
from me. You're right. So I don't even
705
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,040
know why you're even talking.
706
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,540
I don't give a shit. The stuff that you
went through and I, OK.
707
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,980
What did, can you just please tell me
what I went through?
708
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,680
How is it that you know what she's going
through right now?
709
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Once again, you're chiming in. I'm just
curious because you say you know she's
710
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,960
going through a lot.
711
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:24,060
I just know. Because you don't talk to
her, right?
712
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,340
And you do. I do. The whole reason she
couldn't be friends with me is because I
713
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:30,360
was friends with Kristen, but now her
and Kristen are friends.
714
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Are you and Kristen buddies now?
715
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,820
She's the only person that will talk to
me.
716
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,560
And she knows that... Have you tried to
reach out to anyone else?
717
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,300
Oh, you guys just do nothing but...
718
00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:05,350
I've never hated somebody so much in my
life. I literally hate you. We've
719
00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:09,250
actually all been really, really good
when you're around.
720
00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:11,400
Because I call you out on your bullshit.
721
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,060
So you don't think he deserves the
closure conversation because he cheated
722
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:20,300
you? A lot more than cheated on me.
We're not talking about cheating. We're
723
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:24,260
talking about things that have affected
my life in a very serious, deep way.
724
00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:27,580
Yep. And I will not give him the time of
day. Shut up with your yep.
725
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,360
Well, everybody else is giving yep.
726
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,760
I know what she goes through every day.
727
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,460
Is this your new best friend?
728
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,920
You're a new best friend?
729
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,160
Are you and Chris best friends? I can't
look him in the eye ever because of
730
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,600
that. Oh, God. Shut up. Shut up. If any
of you guys actually reached out to me
731
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,200
the way... I wish you happy
Thanksgiving, happy Christmas. I'm
732
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,300
you after you had sent me that text
about... Okay, I can't... There are men
733
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,540
telling you to shut up. I know, yeah. I
did tell you to shut up. I'm just tired
734
00:39:57,540 --> 00:39:58,920
of the superiority complex.
735
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,220
Okay, we're going to pause for a minute,
and we'll be right back.
736
00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:03,859
Top neck.
737
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:08,300
You dispose of people like they're
nothing. You're the most selfish person
738
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:09,300
ever met in my life.
739
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:16,180
Shut up.
740
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,940
There's men telling you to shut up. I
know, yeah. I did tell you to shut up.
741
00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:21,700
just tired of the superiority complex.
742
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:24,340
We're all done, Stassi. You're the
almighty.
743
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:26,299
if you were dumb.
744
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:27,259
Yeah, you have.
745
00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:32,480
Well, you've walked into a little bit of
a tinderbox because they've seen that
746
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,100
you've been talking about them.
747
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:36,380
It's just funny when something's not
centered around you.
748
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:40,100
You just have the worst things to say, a
worst bachelorette party ever. Oh my
749
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,720
God, look at her dress. Look at her
makeup. Look at this. It's like you're
750
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,520
incapable of being nice about anything
that doesn't center around yourself.
751
00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:51,500
On the contrary, do you feel like you
actually do genuinely care about these
752
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:52,500
people?
753
00:40:57,490 --> 00:41:02,910
now a Lot of these people were very
supportive of her in many many ways.
754
00:41:03,110 --> 00:41:07,450
I'm a very loyal to her I can't who are
you making custom water with the issue
755
00:41:07,450 --> 00:41:14,290
with the only person in this room like
Really respectful to you
756
00:41:14,290 --> 00:41:18,150
and the only time that that changed was
when I watched what happened with Katie
757
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,980
I'm not a bad person.
758
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,520
I had feelings too.
759
00:41:21,780 --> 00:41:22,780
It's not about being a bad person.
760
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,960
I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm not
saying that I'm wrong. I'm not saying
761
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,540
Katie's wrong or right. I will always
love Katie.
762
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,820
Then why don't you treat her well?
763
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,020
Treat her like you love her. You cut me
off. Do you realize how extreme it is
764
00:41:33,020 --> 00:41:36,120
cutting someone off? I don't feel like
I... That's serious. And you dispose of
765
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,360
people like they're nothing, like
they're things. And you have no concern
766
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,740
their feelings. You're the most selfish
person I've ever met in my life.
767
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
Like, for real.
768
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:51,170
She did nothing wrong to you. She did
nothing wrong to you. She is the best
769
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:52,470
friend you've ever had. Tell me right
now what I did to you.
770
00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:58,790
Next week, the reunion continues.
771
00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:02,690
I'm sorry that hurts your feelings, but
I don't care. I'm not a f***ing awful
772
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:06,330
person. You think you're better than all
of us on the show. Yes, you do. F***ing
773
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,850
admit it. I honestly feel like I should
just say I'm wrong just so that everyone
774
00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:10,850
knows I'm wrong.
775
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:14,150
When you did have sex with this girl in
Miami, which I completely 100 % believe
776
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:15,150
that you did. Shut up!
777
00:42:15,490 --> 00:42:19,670
Oh, you shut the f*** up. It seems like
the smoking gun also is her description
778
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:22,490
of your genitalia. Oh, my God, dude.
779
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:26,830
Why in the world did you tattoo Stassi's
face?
780
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:29,210
Oh, my God. You are a straight -up
serial killer.
781
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:33,130
Tom, what the fuck is your problem with
her? Sit down and be quiet. It's none of
782
00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:34,130
your business.
783
00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:35,850
It's Stassi. Welcome back, sir.
784
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:40,610
The relationship's over. Let me finish.
You trashed me. You're so disrespectful
785
00:42:40,610 --> 00:42:44,470
to me. I've been nothing but good to
you. I've been a shit boyfriend for the
786
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:45,790
past year, and...
787
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:48,150
What is that? Take your hand and ask you
to...
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