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Coming up on the Vanderpump Rules reunion.
I'm not sure how much talk you're in today.
I don't know, we'll see. I mean, I'm sure they'll find something to yell at
about. You're a f***ing liar.
Who the f*** is talking to you right now? Shut up!
Someone needs to be called out on their bulls***.
Don't even get me started on you, because you punched me in the face
your friend. You got a punchable face.
I'm feeling good, except I think I forgot a pair of pants.
He's a dirty bad dog that will stick it in anything.
I'm talking about my life. Don't you dare. The things that you're upset about
did not happen.
You are the biggest liar.
Shut up, Jack. You're done after this. I'll wreck you.
I'd be nothing but good to you. You dispose of people like they're nothing,
they're things. Let me finish.
That's called being a fucking hypocrite. When was the last time you and Stassi
spoke to each other? Two years. Well, let's bring her out.
Stassi?
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
Hey, everybody.
I'm Andy Cohen, and welcome to Sur Lounge in West Hollywood for the season
Vanderpump Rules reunion.
I am here with Lisa Vanderpump and the ridiculously attractive staff of
Sur.
Hi, Lisa. Hey, hi. How are you?
Great. How are you?
Oh, nervous.
Jack, good to see you. Good to see you.
Where are things with Carmen right now?
I don't know.
When was the last time you saw her?
Last night.
Oh. Oh.
Hi, Sheena Shay. Hi. I loved watching your wedding. Thank you.
Tom and Ariana, are you living together?
Yeah. Yeah.
In your apartment, Tom? Mm -hmm. Did you at least get a new mattress for the two
of you? Or are you?
One would hope, right? That's enough. Well, all of my stuff is now in there.
my mattress resides in the apartment.
Hi, Tom Schwartz. Hey. What's up, Andy? We have two Toms here today. So I'm just
going to.
Call you Schwartz for the day.
Or I could be number one, Tom number one. No, no. We already know that I'm
number one.
All right.
How's it going, Katie?
Good. Do you have the ring that Schwartz gave you?
Yes. Oh, that's nice. Well, it's not that. That one I bought for myself, the
pretty one. This little one is the one that he gave me.
Hi, Kristen.
Hi, Andy. Weird to be in, sir, after you're not working here?
I mean, at this point, no, not really. I kind of, I visit once in a while. I
keep an eye on her. I was going to say, when Kristen walks in, do you... Yeah,
absolutely. She knows she's got to behave herself.
Last but not least, James, welcome to your first reunion. Thank you very much.
feel very welcome. Good luck. Good.
Noticeably missing from this group is Dossie.
Oh, forgot about her.
In just a bit, Stassi will be joining the group.
I don't think that the two of you interacted at all this season. When was
last time you and Stassi spoke to each other? I had a conversation two years,
maybe. Oh, you ran into her. Interesting, Jack. I ran into her, but
it. You told Carmen that you had lunch with her.
I never had lunch with Carmen. Well, you told me that she called you just before
filming.
She never called me before filming. You told me that you guys got married last
week. I just made the mistake of forgetting that there's no simple answer
you ask Jax a question.
So I want to reset and talk about when we last got together.
We were all kind of dealing with the revelation that Jax and Kristen had
slept together.
And no one here liked either of you at that moment.
Yet, when the season started, Jax was pretty much back in with everybody, but
Kristen had a hard time winning people back.
Kristen, how did it feel for you to be the pariah of the group and see
kind of accepting Jax again?
I just think it's really interesting how everyone is still best friends with Jax
when he's single -handedly.
Dub every one of their friendships and relationships and it had nothing to do
with me. I guess it's just Jack. Wait, what?
You guys were co -conspirators, weren't you?
What I was so interested in at the top of the season was that, Tom, here you
with your best friend of 10 years who slept with your girlfriend twice while
you were with her.
How did you forgive him? You know, Jack does...
put me through some bullshit and does stir the pot and all that shit. I don't
think, he doesn't do it maliciously or out of spite or anger or hatred.
He does it because of insecurity, really, I feel like.
Well, you don't sleep with somebody else's girlfriend out of insecurity.
He did that because he doesn't give a damn.
It also comes down to how hot you are. To be honest, hot people like fucking
people.
That's just what humans do.
What? At the end of the day, you know, he was drunk. His insecurities come out
when he's drunk. I was on his couch for four days downing bottles of vodka. I
was going through a breakup with Stassi through hell. It was my first serious
breakup, and it was the first. It was really bad.
Everybody knows that breakup with Stassi was hell.
Suffice to say, hot people like f***ing hot people.
Okay. Kristen, right before Sheena's birthday, you decided to tell her
everything you knew about Tom allegedly cheating on Ariana.
In Miami.
What was it that you had said? Well, I'll just read exactly what she wrote.
I said, I really do appreciate you talking to me about this. I had to ask.
didn't know if it was true.
She said, you fucked it, right?
She said, yes.
What was interesting to me is that Sheena told you everything that she had
heard. Everything that she had heard that I had already heard. Okay.
She showed you text messages. That I had already seen.
Fairly damning. They were not. Okay. Because they're completely innocuous.
never. lost faith that tom was being honest with you and
didn't cheat on you why is that it's not about faith it's about one person
being honest and multiple other people who have nothing to do with anything
stories that don't add up that contradict each other I've never put
situation where she's really got to go out on a limb to trust me. Like, I make
it very easy for her. That being said, you have cheated on girlfriends in the
past, one of whom is in this room.
So would it be impossible for you to think that he could have cheated on you?
Nothing is impossible.
That's not really the point.
There's an ancient Chinese proverb that says, just because you cheat doesn't
make you a cheater.
Are those the words that you live by?
No, I think what he's trying to say is correlation is not causation. Correct?
Yes, but hot people like to fuck other hot people.
Well, then in this situation, we're good because that chick is not hot.
That's actually very true.
Tom, how frustrating is it for you to have your ex -girlfriend...
playing private detective.
It's obviously a little frustrating, but what the more frustrating thing is
this, like, sort of if you don't have evidence, you just lie and say you do.
I'm wondering, like, why you actually brought this girl in when you said she
needs to clear her name.
Clear her name from what?
I didn't bring her in. She's the one who put it out there. Yeah, exactly. She's
the one that sold the stories to the tabloid for money.
Can you just tell us how you found... And I'm not being dismissive. How did
find these girls when you three were in Vegas?
They did.
They approached you guys when you were in Vegas.
Miami, whatever.
This is what I'm tired of. I'm tired of people talking about a situation that
they were not present for and have no...
Because you're talking about facts.
You're talking about facts. I am talking about facts. I was the one person who
was there. You weren't there.
You weren't there. You weren't there. I was with Tom the whole night. I know
it's more exciting if there's an element of doubt lingering.
But it didn't happen.
OK, let's put a pin in that, because we are definitely going to talk about this
later in detail.
Jax, I want to talk about your nose.
Take this the right way, but it doesn't look that different to me. It doesn't
look different. It looks a lot different, actually. I can tell on
Look how straight that thing is. I can't tell a single difference between the
old and new note.
Seems like no one really bought your deviated septum.
So what do you want to know? Are you going to ask me if I've ever done drugs?
And are you asking me that? No, he's not.
Oh, because I'll tell you, your nose didn't cave in from cocaine or something
like that. No, not that I know of. But you did sound like you had a cold before
you had it. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yeah.
In fairness to Jax, a lot of you have done work to your face. No plastic
surgery. No plastic surgery.
I think Doc is the only one who's had plastic surgery.
OK. I've just had Botox. I love Botox. Standoval, you don't do any Botox on
forehead? Nothing. I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I've just not done it
Okay, Sheena and Kristen, you're both young. Why do you do Botox?
Preventative. Yeah, preventative.
I have no wrinkles.
I don't have any wrinkles.
Okay, let me ask you about something else. So James, at Sheena's birthday,
was your big gripe about Tom and the car selfies?
Let me, listen, listen.
Tom came up to me. He couldn't think of anything better to say than say, go take
another Beamer selfie.
James, go take a Beamer selfie or something.
Oh, Beamer selfie?
Go take a Beamer selfie. I'm going to take a Honda Civic selfie, man. OK,
Just so happened that week, I bought my first car that I've been saving up for.
I did get an apartment of my own. And it was him saying, oh.
James is going out with Kristen, not only does he live with his parents and
hasn't got a bloody car, it's like, I don't live with my parents, I do have a
car, and it's way nicer than your Civic, okay?
So I really had nothing better to say than say, go take a Civic selfie, you
what I mean? Like, I couldn't take something else. But to be honest, for
set you off, mate, I mean... That's not what set him off. That is not what
happened. All I wanted to say was, hey, can you please just leave me alone and
mind your own business? You beelined it. Oh, God. You beelined it from the DJ
booth, stepped in front of Kristen, and is like, hey, what do you want, dude?
What do you want? And she even told you. She's like, James, James, stop, James.
You're like, what, dude?
Okay, first of all, English people don't say dude.
That's what you said.
Talk about what? Talk about what, son?
What does he want to talk to you about? Your 51 -year -old son.
James,
did you come in to Sheena's birthday looking for a fight? No.
You were provoking him. Yeah.
If I tried provoking you right now, I'd be doing a lot more than go in a safe
and go take a civic selfie, mate. That was not it.
Regardless,
you were the one that came out with scars on your face, bro. It was you and
face getting tall, making yourself big.
No, I wasn't trying to make myself big. You were overcompensating.
Don't even get me started on you because you punched me in the face sticking up
for your friend. You got a punchable face.
Shut up, Jack. Shut up? You've been here for five minutes. Five minutes.
You clearly also don't know how to tell the time, bro.
You've been here for five minutes.
Shoot. Okay, I think this may be a good time to take a break.
Coming up, let's talk about Miami.
I really wanted Casey to go. The fact that Schwartzy would go without her. If
would have gone, it would have been a one -way street.
I'm not a bad person. You're incapable of being nice about anything that
center around yourself.
We're back with Lisa and the staff from CERN.
Jax, you were dating two women at the same time. Did they really know about
other? Yeah, Tiffany and Carmen both knew.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's no lying. There's no deceiving.
This is all going to end terribly.
I mean, it always does with Jax and the women he dates.
That doesn't make any sense to me. Like, if they both know about each other,
then it's OK.
I mean, it's not Utah.
You can't just have more than one woman and have it be okay. Not when you were
dating Carmen, I bet. I don't know, but you're just being like the kind of girl
that would. Yeah, Kristen, you're good friends with Carmen. Was she aware that
Jax was dating Tiffany at the same time? She was, because she said, unless you
break up with her, stop talking to me. What did she think about that, that he
was dating Tiffany at the same time? I mean, watching the show, it's
embarrassing for her. It's humiliating.
It's so embarrassing that she was with me last night, huh?
Okay.
Well, I'm not saying that it changes the fact that you guys still hang out. I'm
just saying it is embarrassing for her. It's not fun to watch.
Jax, when you broke up with Carmen, that didn't go so good.
No.
After this, like, I don't want to see you again.
Why? Because I don't like you.
You're 35 years old.
Stop with the partying.
She really let you have it.
Oh, of course. I mean, I deserved it. How did that make you feel? Did any of
that penetrate?
Yeah, absolutely.
Their breakup was hilarious.
When you said, you're going to law school, I mean, I'm not going to be
for that.
I offended Carmen terribly. I met her in public.
I met Carmen last year at a bar, and she came up to me and said, I'm Jax
Taylor's girlfriend.
And I said, well, that's a very long list.
And she did not like that. She knows what I'm doing. It's not a secret who I
or what I'm doing. I agree. It's not a secret. It doesn't take a rocket science
to figure out who I am and what I'm doing.
You have said you're going to take the Clooney route, and you're not going to
get married anytime soon.
God, no. Your comments about
Amal Clooney were very interesting.
A human rights lawyer? How boring is that?
I'm like, don't do it. Don't do it.
Can you imagine the stack?
Which makes me think that you don't want to sleep with smart women.
I don't think smart women want to sleep with me. There we go. That's true.
Well said. Well said, yeah. That's funny.
Let's talk about the boys' trip to San Diego.
Jax's girlfriend, Tiffany, hooked you all up with a pretty sweet suite, right?
It was really nice. Yeah, it was really nice. So Jax, tell me exactly what
happened with you and the girl in the bathroom.
I mean, it seemed like you banged her.
So are you admitting it, or?
No, but I understand why they were.
So you denied that it happened.
Yes, it did not happen. But I understand why they were coming at me. Of course,
I had it coming to me.
Schwartz, is that true? We don't know exactly what happened. Oh, come on.
You were pretty convicted during the season that you knew what happened.
I'm sorry, were you there? I watched the show.
Sandoval, tell me exactly what happened with Jack and the girl that he brought
back to the room.
I've already told you, but we went back to the room and the girl and Jack were
in the bathroom and came out and...
Sweating. I was sweating. I know the situation would look really bad.
Why would you go in the bathroom with her if she's puking? She had her hair,
I was holding her to let her puke. Her friends were with her. I felt so bad
I called Tiffany and I told her.
I think it was actually very gentleman -like of him to go help her with her
and to walk her out of the bathroom. I thought it was very gentleman -like.
girl must have some really interesting puke noises.
What did you say? Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah? It's a baby.
Listen, regardless of what happened, we just wanted to teach him a lesson.
Jax had been meddling in our relationships, and I guess we wanted to
him what it's like.
But at least I did it to his face.
I didn't just go and tell people and then walk away and be like, I don't know
where people are getting that from.
Jax, I have to say, go
call Tiffany in the car.
and take her through what had happened in San Diego.
And though she already knew what had happened, because you had just told the
guys, oh yeah, she knows everything.
I took her into the bathroom to throw up, and I shut the door, and I'm like,
off me, get off me.
Well,
I might have left out a little bit of detail.
He truly just says what...
ever he wants to at that time, what suits him. But he never realizes all the
damage, the carnage it leaves in the past.
Who believes Jax?
Anyone?
Okay.
So let's talk about Miami.
Sheena, you wanted to do a joint bachelor, bachelorette party. Was that
you could keep your eye on Shay?
No, not necessarily.
I mean, I trust him completely.
And all of his friends are my friends as well. So it just made sense to do a
joint party.
Kristen, it seemed like you were in and out and in again.
Did you feel like you were always walking on eggshells? Yeah, a little
mean, I do see the point that she had and how it was really hard for her.
Because the truth was, as far as the girls were concerned, I wasn't friends
anybody.
I loved seeing you all on the boat cruise. That was so much fun. That was
best part of Miami.
Katie,
was that a moment that you kind of wished that Stassi had been at?
Of course, it would have been nice to have her along, absolutely, but I was
of more relishing in the moment, being like, I'm so happy I'm here. I'm so
I made this decision.
This is exactly where I should be.
I really wanted Casey to go as well, and I felt the fact that Schwartzy would go
without her.
I was bluffing. No, you weren't. You would have gone without her.
If he would have gone, it would have been a one -way street.
Well, wouldn't Casey?
Probably not.
Well... Miami wasn't all good times. When the question came up of what
in San Diego, Tom, Jax immediately brought up the Miami rumors about you.
You definitely railed the shit out of that girl in the bathroom. I did not. We
don't talk about what happened in Miami.
Is that kind of typical Jax behavior?
Yeah. When Jax gets back in the corner hole...
Say anything.
Deflect. Boom, boom, boom.
Panic, panic, panic, panic.
Well, Schwartz, you were kind of shrinking in your seat when this was
Were you worried that Jax was going to bring up your dirty laundry? Well, I
guess in the back of my head, there was that concern.
He has wounded animal syndrome when he's cornered, and he can be vicious.
James, you were so amused with what was going on, you started texting Kristen.
What were you thinking Kristen was going to do with that information?
To be honest, I honestly am very innocent in that sense. Like, as much as
everyone likes to gossip and stuff, I wasn't texting Kristen so she can go
other people. I was texting Kristen because... You don't think that was
No, no, no, no. No, but you did leave your phone on the table when you went to
the bathroom.
Um, I'm going to go to the restroom.
You guys, I'm breaking into Kristen's phone.
A lot of viewers called BS on that. I know. And you left it on the table.
So that...
they would see what happened. So I expect someone to go through my phone?
you ever go through your phone? I wouldn't go through yours.
I mean, I think it's weird that you left your phone unlocked.
If I wanted to make a spectacle of it and, like, try to upset her or embarrass
anyone or make it a thing, I would have set it at the table. Would any of you
put it past me to do it right then and there? Well, do you think when you left
it on the table, there was any chance that they might go through it?
not.
Coming up, did you ever...
Have sexual relations with John.
Tom, you said a few kind of suspicious things at that dinner in Miami to Jack
that made you seem a little guilty.
I shouldn't have to ask you to lie for me. Stop ratting us out.
I'm just saying, stop ratting us out. Stop throwing us under the bus. Stop
causing... Stop... All those things were said in that whole time.
Yeah, but why are you saying stop ratting us out and stop trying us out?
ratted me out. He has ratted me out.
About what?
The point is, these are all things that have accumulated over a very long time
of them being friends.
Yeah. So in that conversation, this isn't about this. I wasn't just
one thing. I'm referring to a whole span of things.
Jax, what did you think that Tom was talking about?
I knew exactly what he was saying. I was retaliating. So he's basically just
saying, let's stop just doing the stupid shit that I've been doing. If I was
worried about Jax having any kind of dirt on me, I obviously would have never
done that.
Oh, it gives me a break.
Establishing bro code again.
Way to cover each other's arses until one of you fall, and then you all fall
together, you know? Shut up, James.
But there was a really bad cheating history.
You had month -long affairs with guys.
We were toxic to each other. Fair enough. I'm not denying anything. You're
one who sits in denial.
I'm not sitting in denial.
One thing I can say is the fact that Tom and Ariana worked for me for a long
time.
And they were always accused of having an affair together.
And I know for a fact that they weren't together and they weren't guilty of what
she's accused them of.
And you still believe that they did sleep together when you were with Tom?
I do believe that.
But at this point in time, after we've now been broken up for well over a year,
it doesn't matter to me anymore. I don't think it matters at all. It doesn't
matter then. Why did the girl from Miami come here?
I mean, but clearly at the time, I was livid. I was pissed. And it's not a
normal circumstance that you have to work with your ex -boyfriend and his
current girlfriend, who clearly had something going on behind my back.
They were best friends. Let's go ahead and stop you there.
I mean, let's be honest. The night that we actually broke up, you guys all went
out, and I was not with you. And that night, you didn't come home. And the
morning of, when you finally did come home, and I asked you, did you see
last night? Were you hanging out with her? And you said no.
You said, no, I wasn't with her. I wasn't with her. And I said, where did
sleep last night? You said Sheena's.
And I found that he, in fact, was at Ariana's until 8 o 'clock in the
If you want to make an inference, that's fine.
If you're up to 8 a .m., I hope you're not playing cards to 8 a .m., darling.
Considering that this was the first time that Tom and I had spoken since the
night that my dad died, there was a lot that we wanted to talk about. There was
a lot going on.
According to his phone, that wasn't true at the time. According to my phone,
that is not... Stop throwing these little sidewinders in there. Seriously.
do that all the fucking time.
Like, stop doing that.
There was nothing on my phone that said anything.
I mean, I was hanging out with her.
You also implied that there was an affair going on before that. That's what
implied. A lot.
Absolutely.
Yeah, which is definitely not true.
And I think there are three truths. There's my truth, his truth, and the
truth. Your truth.
Your truth is in your own mind, Kristen.
Stop with the antics and stop yelling. You don't get to yell at me anymore.
Okay, Kristen.
Oh, God.
Okay, let's switch gears for a second. In Miami, we actually got to meet
jacks from your past, a guy named John.
There he is. Hey.
What's up, man?
John. See you, dude.
Tom, can you tell us who this gentleman John is?
John takes care of million -dollar condos, as well as he's tied in with the
agencies, photographers,
designers, all in Miami. He's kind of a socialite.
Jax, you lived with John. I lived with John for a little while, yeah. He had
apartments, and then he had rooms that he would rent out to models.
So you lived in his room. You used to live with John.
I didn't live in his room. John said he lived in his room. I never lived in his
room. I'm sorry, were you there in 2003? I was there.
Who the fuck is talking to you right now?
Nobody. Stop.
Okay, Jax, let me cut to the chase.
Go on, why don't you?
Did you ever have sexual relations with John? Absolutely not. No.
But you kissed him. Yeah, like peck on the, yeah, peck, yeah. It seemed like
had something deeper because he said, I still love you.
Come here. You know what?
I love you because I'm over you.
And I still love you as much as I did in the first place. I'm a bigger person
now. I was so young and I just wanted to do it right off the bat.
I came from Michigan, okay? We didn't, this is the first modeling.
gay man i've ever came across so i was you know i didn't understand like oh i
you know i was being friendly okay the first gay man you ever came across came
across yeah he's just admitted it andy i did not just admit anything what are
you talking about he said he's the first guy you ever came across you
were a bit naive at that moment just fresh off the boat 22 years old
because you were so kind of nonchalant about the idea that you had kissed. I've
kissed a lot of my gay friends on the lips. I still do to this day. Do you
to kiss right now? Do you want to make out? That's cool.
Oh, stop getting in my way.
I just thought, you know what? Jack seems like the kind of guy that would
a mouth is a mouth.
A hole is a hole.
I'm going to go where someone will have me.
Tattoo inspiration. I thought we were buddies.
That's what I kind of thought. I thought we were like, you know? That's the
impression that he gives. That's the impression that you give. I mean, I
we all know I love women.
Very much. Yes, we do. We're not questioning. Okay.
Lisa, where do you stand here? Well, I don't know. I mean, he's a dirty, bad
that will stick it in anything that moves, right?
And so, obviously, when I saw the footage and the way this guy was kind of
intimate with you and intimated that you'd had some kind of more in -depth
relationship, I'm just saying that's what I got from him.
Y 'all can believe what you want to believe.
Okay. Well, we saw Sandoval tell Ariana all about Jackson's relationship with
John in the back of the taxi cab, but also you broke down because you felt
stressed out about the time that you were spending with Kristen.
I'm, like, sitting in the shower and just, like, crying by myself because my
stomach hurts so bad all the time. I'm just, like, waiting for...
Whatever. Your crocodile tears in the back of the cab.
Crocodile tears. She never cries.
Give me a break. Give me a break. No, I'm not going to give you a break.
It's just so over the top. No, it's over the top. It's your continuous... You
know me so well. But you said that I did, and that's not okay. But I'm
to have my opinion.
Kristen, had I heard you making comments about me being hit by a truck?
I do wish she would get hit by a Mack truck or something.
She's a homewrecking whore.
She's got to go.
I think we all need to, like, take it down a notch and, like, have a little
of a sense of humor when you're saying I was physically threatening you. Like,
give me a break.
I was being facetious. I'm talking about Kristen.
I just watched you punch people at Sheena's birthday party. I really don't
it's that far -fetched. For someone who's so, like, factual and smarter than
everyone here and everyone that you know, clearly. Oh, stupid. I should
have said that. That was really dumb. Well, you did, and you say it on repeat.
Oh, let's quote you, Kristen.
She said she's smarter than every person she's ever met.
I'm not stupid.
I'm smarter than every person I've ever met in my life.
Yeah, and then when I heard myself say that, I was like, oh, give me a break.
Tom, you had an interesting response after you saw how upset Ariana was in
taxi cab.
Instead of causing a big scene, you waited until the end of the night, and
had an emotionally raw discussion with... Kristen.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we didn't work out.
There were times where I thought we were going to spend the rest of our lives
together.
Where were those tears coming from?
When I broke up with Kristen, I was very just cut it off, and I was very cold
about it.
And the reason why that was the case is because I had tried breaking up with her
numerous times in the past.
You never broke up with me in the past. Yes, I did.
Yes, I did. Okay, go on. And anyway.
I felt like I'd never had that sort of closure, heart -to -heart conversation
with her. I feel like I tried everything when we were together, and it's like
even after we broke up, I feel like I tried everything to get her to move on
to be the best, like, ex -boyfriend I could possibly be.
And it was just all in vain.
It's a conversation that, like, I don't know, didn't really have to happen, in
my opinion. I thought it was bollocks.
But you were there all weekend, didn't you? You saw all the comments. Dude, no.
I don't dude me. I've told you. No, I'm sorry. Did I say that? Yes. You saw her
session with Tom.
Yeah. I mean, I thought they were going to have a very different conversation.
I thought...
You know, Kristen was feeding me crap.
I felt like I was kind of being tangled on a bit of a fishing pole with that
one. But for me to find out later that Kristen, you know, was wiping his tears
off his face, it's like, please, please.
It made me sick to my stomach. Okay, because she was kissing me goodnight in
that night, telling me that she loves me, telling me sweet dreams.
Right, so do you feel that she's moved on? Yes, she's 100 % moved on. She's
over heels for me, and we're in love together, yes.
But by the way, I have to think that watching this season was pretty annoying
for you. It was awful. Watching your girlfriend obsessed over her ex
It was awful.
Put yourself in my shoes for a second. It's not nice.
Well, while that talk was going on, Katie, you were trying to have a talk
someone who you thought was your very good friend, Stassi.
Is that a reason you're calling?
Well, yeah, because I haven't been able to talk to you in a while.
Okay.
So I'm going to go.
How did you expect Stassi to react to the news that you were going to Miami
Sheena and Jax and the gang?
I knew she wasn't going to be happy about it, but I thought she really would
have realized it was a personal decision. I was making it for myself,
relationship. It was what I needed to do.
But also, she worked with all these people every day.
Stassi walked away, went to New York, and she was with all these guys.
Schwartz, how upset during the Miami trip was Katie about Stassi blowing her
off? She was distraught because that friendship ran deep. And for Stassi just
cut it off.
In such a cold and calculated way. It was so callous.
Stassi should have been mortified for the way she was behaving.
And it's ironic because she's bragging all season about how she's grown, right?
How she's better than us. Yeah.
And her actions just show the complete opposite.
Okay, we're going to pause for a minute. And when we come back, Stassi will join
the group.
Up next.
You could have said, you know what? Jax, I'm sorry. I can't talk to you anymore.
That's all I needed. Closure. That's fine. Jax, you don't deserve anything
me.
I know you all have things you want to say to Stassi, and she's here.
And we will bring her out after the break. Can we get a drink first?
I feel like a fire -breathing dragon.
Are we not allowed to talk? We are allowed to talk. We can talk about
we want.
I don't want to... Jack, stop being a pussy.
I'm about to go rogue again.
I got 50 bucks because Dossie walked out. You're on.
We are back at SUR for the Vanderpump Rules
reunion.
And we switch things up a little bit because Stassi is going to be joining us
just a moment.
Jax, do you have any love for her?
Oh, I always love her. It was a part of my life, just like anything else, you
know, in relationships you have. Of course, I just love her.
Again, I always have this thing with me, with her. She could stab me in the back
and ask for something and I would do it. I don't know why, it's just something
with her that I just, I would always be there if she needed me. Regardless of
what she says about me, she can say all she wants. I would still be there.
Lisa, do you think that Jax would take Stassi back?
Maybe not now.
Jax, you wouldn't? No, no, no. I'm saying being up there as a friend. I
she's going through a lot, whatever she may or may not say. It's been a three
crazy couple years for her.
Lisa, why do you think Stassi's been so tough on Katie?
Because Katie didn't do exactly what she wanted. And I really felt with Katie
that she was kind of subservient to Stassi. The whole issue over her going
Miami, which I encourage. She works with all these kids. Stassi had left and
gone to New York.
And I think for Katie to go with Schwartzy and to be with all of them and
them to be friends wasn't a bad thing. She stood up to her, and I totally
support that.
Because I think she's been a damn good friend to her. And I feel that we really
have seen the kind of emancipation of Katie.
Any hope for your friendship with Dossie, Sheena? No. God, no.
She's a fucking hypocrite. But you were a bitch about her the whole season,
Sheena. So were you, Kristen.
Dossie can't be friends with me because I was friends with you. You know why.
She's a fucking hypocrite. Don't fucking go there. And I'll say it to her face
when she sits her ass down. Okay, I want to put a pin in this.
I know you all have things you want to say to Stassi, and she's here, so let's
bring her out.
Stassi?
Hi. Hi. Nice to see you. Nice to see you, too.
How are you? Have a seat next to me.
Thank you.
How do you feel being back?
Good. I mean, it's kind of odd. I haven't seen anyone in a really long
Do you even remember what Jax looks like at this point? I do. I've watched the
show. Oh, you have?
I have, yeah. Oh, okay, good.
Stassi, what was the big deal about seeing Jack? It seems like you went to
pain to avoid him this season. That's an understatement.
Uh -huh.
The night that you had the third part of the 10 -year reunion, there was a look
of fear where you, like, had to get out immediately.
Absolutely. I
psyched
myself out so much because I've been used to this being about me and Jack.
did not want that anymore.
That's it. I did not want that anymore.
The fact that you were going to such great lengths.
To stay away from me, I thought that was just a little bit much. Honestly, two
major reasons.
OK. Most importantly, he makes up lies about people, manipulates the situation.
And then, I mean, I feel like everyone's been a victim of that. And I'm not
going to willingly put myself in a situation that allows him to do that to
And then secondly.
I'm in a relationship with somebody I really love and really respect. And I
didn't feel right hanging out with an ex -boyfriend.
So, Stassi, let me ask you about your mystery boyfriend, Patrick.
Okay. Why did he move to L .A.? Well, he started a new radio show. Uh -huh. And
that involved him being in the West Coast.
Why didn't we ever see him on the show?
He's a real man.
I don't understand how after everything that happened, you were talking to me
fine. Then as soon as you got in that relationship, as soon, and you didn't
me. Absolutely. That was fine. As soon as you got in, that's fine. It just
his insecurity, really.
If you're secure in your relationship, why can't you be like, you know what? Go
do what you got to do.
I trust you. You're my girlfriend.
Go do what you got to do. Get your closure lunch out of the way or whatever
got to do. And that's all I was looking. How's the dog? How's everything going?
How's your family? That's it. Shake hands. Walk away.
That's all I wanted. That was it. I don't really give a shit.
Did you feel threatened in your relationship by your boyfriend saying,
seriously, this is not going to work?
No, he never gave me an ultimatum, but it's something that...
I would expect the same thing. I would expect the same thing. I would not be
okay with my boyfriend filming with his ex -girlfriend and being like, I
wouldn't feel comfortable. Like, this is my life.
We all put our lives out here, Stassi. Like, you know everything.
But as soon as anything remotely gets a little choppy for you, you storm off and
call us all idiots and psychos. I mean, I've heard rumors that, like, if your
boyfriend sees you in a room with Jax, he will break up with you immediately.
I've heard that. OK, well there are rumors about everything.
What's your reaction to that?
I understand that you're in a relationship.
I respect that. It's been three years. I think we can all get over whatever
happened. I just wanted to see how you were in life. That was it. And I dropped
an email to you and I was nice. I'm like, hey, if you need anything, let me
know. You could have said, you know what, Jack, I'm sorry. Thank you for
this. I don't really can't talk to you anymore. That's all I needed. I have no
idea what you're talking about. You must have been blocked at the time. I
emailed you.
You're blocked.
I don't have any communication with you. Okay, closure. That's fine. You don't
deserve anything from me. Did you call Jack and ask him for money?
Absolutely.
Because he started punching holes in walls. No. And yet, I called him and I
said, you are going to pay me for this. I'm sorry. But what is that even like?
You called me up crying.
Jax, I mean, what did I do? No problem. Cut the check. Gave it right to you. No
problem. OK, but what does this have anything to do with anything?
You stormed out. Jax, you don't deserve anything from me.
OK. You literally don't deserve anything from me. You're right. So I don't even
know why you're even talking.
I don't give a shit. The stuff that you went through and I, OK.
What did, can you just please tell me what I went through?
How is it that you know what she's going through right now?
Once again, you're chiming in. I'm just curious because you say you know she's
going through a lot.
I just know. Because you don't talk to her, right?
And you do. I do. The whole reason she couldn't be friends with me is because I
was friends with Kristen, but now her and Kristen are friends.
Are you and Kristen buddies now?
She's the only person that will talk to me.
And she knows that... Have you tried to reach out to anyone else?
Oh, you guys just do nothing but...
I've never hated somebody so much in my life. I literally hate you. We've
actually all been really, really good when you're around.
Because I call you out on your bullshit.
So you don't think he deserves the closure conversation because he cheated
you? A lot more than cheated on me. We're not talking about cheating. We're
talking about things that have affected my life in a very serious, deep way.
Yep. And I will not give him the time of day. Shut up with your yep.
Well, everybody else is giving yep.
I know what she goes through every day.
Is this your new best friend?
You're a new best friend?
Are you and Chris best friends? I can't look him in the eye ever because of
that. Oh, God. Shut up. Shut up. If any of you guys actually reached out to me
the way... I wish you happy Thanksgiving, happy Christmas. I'm
you after you had sent me that text about... Okay, I can't... There are men
telling you to shut up. I know, yeah. I did tell you to shut up. I'm just tired
of the superiority complex.
Okay, we're going to pause for a minute, and we'll be right back.
Top neck.
You dispose of people like they're nothing. You're the most selfish person
ever met in my life.
Shut up.
There's men telling you to shut up. I know, yeah. I did tell you to shut up.
just tired of the superiority complex.
We're all done, Stassi. You're the almighty.
if you were dumb.
Yeah, you have.
Well, you've walked into a little bit of a tinderbox because they've seen that
you've been talking about them.
It's just funny when something's not centered around you.
You just have the worst things to say, a worst bachelorette party ever. Oh my
God, look at her dress. Look at her makeup. Look at this. It's like you're
incapable of being nice about anything that doesn't center around yourself.
On the contrary, do you feel like you actually do genuinely care about these
people?
now a Lot of these people were very supportive of her in many many ways.
I'm a very loyal to her I can't who are you making custom water with the issue
with the only person in this room like Really respectful to you
and the only time that that changed was when I watched what happened with Katie
I'm not a bad person.
I had feelings too.
It's not about being a bad person.
I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm not saying that I'm wrong. I'm not saying
Katie's wrong or right. I will always love Katie.
Then why don't you treat her well?
Treat her like you love her. You cut me off. Do you realize how extreme it is
cutting someone off? I don't feel like I... That's serious. And you dispose of
people like they're nothing, like they're things. And you have no concern
their feelings. You're the most selfish person I've ever met in my life.
Like, for real.
She did nothing wrong to you. She did nothing wrong to you. She is the best
friend you've ever had. Tell me right now what I did to you.
Next week, the reunion continues.
I'm sorry that hurts your feelings, but I don't care. I'm not a f***ing awful
person. You think you're better than all of us on the show. Yes, you do. F***ing
admit it. I honestly feel like I should just say I'm wrong just so that everyone
knows I'm wrong.
When you did have sex with this girl in Miami, which I completely 100 % believe
that you did. Shut up!
Oh, you shut the f*** up. It seems like the smoking gun also is her description
of your genitalia. Oh, my God, dude.
Why in the world did you tattoo Stassi's face?
Oh, my God. You are a straight -up serial killer.
Tom, what the fuck is your problem with her? Sit down and be quiet. It's none of
your business.
It's Stassi. Welcome back, sir.
The relationship's over. Let me finish. You trashed me. You're so disrespectful
to me. I've been nothing but good to you. I've been a shit boyfriend for the
past year, and...
What is that? Take your hand and ask you to...
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