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Tonight, part two of the jaw -dropping
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
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reunion. Lisa, were you surprised Mary
took your side? Lisa is all about Lisa.
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She probably doesn't even know what
you're talking about.
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She doesn't look like she does.
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Did you not read Heather's book?
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No.
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I think what's really important here is
discussing why I have such a fractured
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relationship with Brittany.
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If you think we're protecting Brittany,
we're protecting you.
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Any comments about the cult rumor
resurfacing about your church?
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I don't understand this.
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Yeah, she's the victim here. It's not
okay.
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I need to go. Fuck this.
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She won't stop talking, so I can't go
there. She screeched at me for two
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Screeched at you for two months? Fuck
you.
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Our friendship is over from this moment
on.
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Buckle up, Meredith. It's not going to
be a fun ride.
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Part two of the Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City reunion starts now.
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Angie, you've known Lisa for a long
time. What do you think?
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Well, see, I brought a little
Samaritan's girl.
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This gorgeous girl.
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Oh, my God. For my anniversary. Oh, my
God, that's very pretty. Isn't that
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pretty? This is the presentation, but
you asked.
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I have known Lisa, and...
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I thought she was my friend.
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And then I found out she was trolling
me.
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She says she's not the source.
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Mm -hmm.
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But if you open that, you can just pass
it down, and you open your phone, the
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person trolling me has the same phone
number that Lisa has. Good. I'm so glad
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we're doing this. Go ahead.
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I'm so glad we're doing this. Okay. Oh.
I mean, that's how I feel. And that's
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why I have. This is a private account
saying I liked Angie until I saw her
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-flop. That is not me.
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That is 100 % not me. What I'm looking
at is an account from someone that is
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posting. It's not my phone number.
That's the one comment that could fit on
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there. That is posting.
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Comments that are negative about you.
You're saying this is attached to Lisa's
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number. Yeah.
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That number is your number?
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But that's not how you look it up. Was
the number that I just read your number?
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Yeah, but it's not connected to me. They
just put in my phone number and did
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this. Whitney Rose did this. They don't
know how to look it up. That's not
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attached to that account. They're lying.
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You're lying. I'm not lying.
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You're lying.
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It's a joke, Andy.
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It's a prop flop. You did it. You did
it. You did it. Okay, Bezos. He who
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the scroll gets to talk. Okay. And I'm
holding it.
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And what you're saying this proves is,
so this link was sent to this number,
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which is Lisa's number. I put in the
handle, forgot password. It said link to
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password sent to the number. Which is
Lisa Barlow's cell number. Is that
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correct? Yes, it's not. Okay. I watched
this account for two years, and it was
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defending Lisa everywhere and shitting
on everybody.
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And when she was mad at me, I... started
to see it saying things about me,
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trying to put a narrative about me. And
then it was Electra's birthday. And it
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was before I had like a ton of followers
so I could see, watch my stories. So
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Candace watches my stories. And then two
minutes later, Lisa's like, happy
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birthday to Electra. Lisa never looked
at my posts, but Candace did. I would
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like you to explain yourself.
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Why is it not you? It's not me because
that's not my phone number attached to
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the account. They put the phone number
in and then said reset password or
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whatever. No, that's. That's not what we
did. My phone number is not attached to
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that. That is not my account. You
changed after I told you about it. No, I
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not. You're crazy. You're crazy. No, I'm
not. You're fucking crazy.
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No, you're crazy.
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You're crazy. You're crazy.
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You're fucking crazy. You are crazy. And
everyone here knows it. And Meredith
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knows it. By the way, as I told you,
it's not me. It's not my phone number.
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We've all accepted it. No, it's not me.
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I'm not going. Why is your phone number
attached to it?
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Okay. It is not.
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Me. You're acting like you're above it.
You're not.
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About the egregious stuff.
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Okay, okay, okay, okay. I am not Candace
Torrey. It is not me. And I never, ever
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did that. You knew about me, about
Angie, about Meredith. You're making
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This is not another receipt. Why did you
have that account? Tie my screenshots.
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You're not going to get that because
it's not here.
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I am. It's not me. And it's a joke.
Okay, I'm moving forward. It's not me. I
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showed you the stuff. It was you and I
moved on. It's not me. It's not me. And
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I'm going to show you it's not me. It's
okay. And you're going to owe me an
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apology. You owe us an apology because
we've saved your friend and we've all
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moved on from it. We've known about it
for years. So you owe us an apology. You
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just said that with your phone number.
You have to treat me like shit. Moving
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on. Exhausting.
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Moving on. I would not accuse you if I
didn't know it too much. I know she did
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it. Stop, you guys.
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You know it. Stop. I don't know what I
know, though. Stop.
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I've moved on. I'm not even looking at
you right now.
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Don't look at me.
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You can hear me.
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You know what? I know you did it. You
had to do that.
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I'm out. No, Andy, please.
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I'm out.
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I can't.
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No,
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Andy. Andy's walking off. Okay. Sorry,
Andy. I'm walking off. This is nuts.
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is nuts.
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Andy, please come back.
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I mean, you guys.
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Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry.
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We're sorry.
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We're sorry, Daddy Andy.
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It's not funny.
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No, I'm not saying it's not funny.
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This is nonsense.
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We're so sorry. It's all a joke.
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Okay, everybody. Thank you for coming
back. No, it's all a joke. Thank you,
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Mary. No, they won't because they want
to believe it.
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Okay,
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I'm moving forward.
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Heather, on Watch What Happens Live, you
said you have the receipts -proof
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screenshots of Lisa leaking information.
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Was that what?
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That is absolutely part of it. The other
part was the Kahneman fraud part of it
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all. Do you want to talk about what you
said on the Red Rocks and the pictures
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you have on your phone?
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What? Rolling Thunder? You want to go
there?
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That's a fact. As anyone on the couch
knows who Rolling Thunder is, Meredith
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explain it. Or you can ask Lisa, too.
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They're alluding to a photograph of me
with someone that I dated when Seth and
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were separated. They're trying to make
this into... I'm not.
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She's the one that brought it up, not
me.
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I don't care. It looks bad for them. Why
is that such a big bomb to drop on the
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road? Because why do you still have the
photos on your phone if you're her
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friend? You said you do.
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So what's the big deal? Meredith just
said she and Seth were dating other
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when they were split up. I didn't go
there. It was passed around to the
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group. It's like the dumbest thing. Keep
going. It's a bad look for other
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people, not for me. All right. Let's
hold here. We will pick up after the
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Okay, and that is lunch, ladies.
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Oh, cool. Yay.
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Is that a sweet
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potato? Yeah, it's so good.
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So good.
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Right out of the gate, Meredith just sat
there on the couch. Says not a word on
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Lisa's defense.
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I know. I'll just sit here and hopefully
you'll eventually get it. Like,
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Meredith says nothing on Lisa's defense.
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Lisa is being really strange today.
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She's being very, she's being mean. I
mean, which that part doesn't surprise
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It's more that she's just, I think she's
like almost trying to stay calm.
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She's trying to keep herself quiet. And
she keeps saying that we are speaking
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over her when she's notorious for
speaking over people. So it's almost
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like got herself a little like, that's
how I'm going to handle today. And I'm
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sticking to it no matter what.
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What do you think so far?
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I think you're doing great. I think
you're holding your own. Like which
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No, I don't know. Nothing specific.
Just, you know.
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We're going to have to talk about the
airplane ride.
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I think that, you know, we just have to
be prepared to back each other because
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we both know the truth.
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You can't argue with the facts. And
their math doesn't math ours does.
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Why do you think they're so obsessed
with us? It's weird and creepy.
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It's like the most fraudulent shit I've
ever seen in my life.
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Well, we'll give clarity and levity to a
lot of situations.
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Oh,
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look
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at the Greek food. That's so fun.
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Is the cheese real?
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I think everything is.
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I can't tell if it's real or plastic.
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It's probably spray.
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Three, two, one. It's my cue. Go, Andy.
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
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Salt Lake City reunion.
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Well, after a two -year renovation, we
saw the triumphant grand reopening of
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Mary's Faith Temple Pentecostal Church
this season. But it turns out Mary's
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preaching the good word to her beloved
son, Robert Jr., and her flock of
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troubled housewife disciples all along,
proving that the N in Mary M. Cosby
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stands for mediator. Watch.
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Here we are.
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Yes, ma 'am. I'm going to walk into a
new place.
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It's been a long time.
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I know. I'm trying to think how long
it's been.
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It's been two years.
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I feel like I came into the world
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to be a messenger.
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A messenger for God.
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Meredith and Heather Gay, are you guys
okay?
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You... She probably should talk.
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If there is a problem, I like to come to
a resolution and get over it and move
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on. You're an adult. You're a full
-blown mom. You're a businesswoman.
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Lead with positivity. Show them the
light. Lead the way. You get so angry
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you can't even focus and you don't even
hear people. We're in a sisterhood and I
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can't even get you to calm down?
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You care how you're projected?
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You know, you have an image.
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But I also think it's important to take
accountability.
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What are we doing? Why are we here if
we're not friends?
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We're all big, grown adults.
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We should act like it. We're mothers.
We're wives.
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We're leaders. We're bosses.
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King Thelomere?
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Mm -hmm.
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Robert Jr. got in the car.
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Yeah. And I looked at him.
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He was high.
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And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
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Oh, God.
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It's important for me to protect him.
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Yeah.
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We're still taking it day at a time.
Yeah.
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And some good days and some days not so
good.
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Today was a day that wasn't so good.
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Oh.
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I'm not in that dark place, but, like,
it's still there.
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I'm just getting that stimuli from
unhealthy sources.
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Like what sources?
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Drugs.
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Did you smoke today?
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Yeah, I smoked.
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God, in the name of Jesus, Lord, bless
their hearts.
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Help us be one more.
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Help us forgive.
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Love every one of them.
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All right.
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Mary, I loved hearing you preach.
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Thank you, Andy.
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That made me cry. Sorry.
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What got you?
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Just my son.
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He's incarcerated currently?
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Yes. Why?
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He went over to his wife, ex -wife. She
filed for divorce house.
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And they filed a restraining order
against him. And he went back anyway,
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thinking that she wants him to come back
and save her. I don't know where he's
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getting that from.
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Delusional. And then every time he'd go
back over there, they would call the
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police and they'd arrest him. And this
time they tased him.
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Oh, wow.
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But I'm happy.
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I'm in a good place. I'm not worried
about him.
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I know he's somewhere where he's not
using.
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At some point, I have to step back so
that he can learn and he can make his
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decision. And unfortunately, he's
learning the hard way.
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But I'm okay with it. It's just, you
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know, you don't want to see your kid
suffer. But I know it's good,
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and I'd rather him be there than dead,
you know.
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He was booked into Salt Lake City Metro
Jail until February 2026 when a judge
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will determine the length of his
remaining sentence.
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Are you in contact with him in jail? Do
you go see him? No, I can't go to jail,
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Andy. That's a little weird.
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You don't want to see him that way? No,
I don't. I don't want to look at my
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child behind a glass. And what are your
conversations like?
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He calls me every day.
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I'm basically preaching to him. I'm
like, you're going through this, but you
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have to realize that God is allowing it.
And if God allowed it, then it's for
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your good.
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This will help you to change, and you've
got to change.
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Is it your hope that he'll be scared
straight?
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Yes, of course.
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Of course. I hope that this all is for
his good. And I feel like it's designed
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to, you know, I feel like even like when
I got kicked out.
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You know, I was like, where am I going
to go?
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And my mom was like, I don't know where
you're going, but you're not living
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here. She kicked you out? Yeah.
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Why? I wasn't obeying the rules. I was
one of those childs. I had my own mind.
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How old were you?
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18.
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18? Yeah.
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So where is Robert Sr.
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in all of this? Does he go visit Robert
Jr.? He hasn't yet, but Robert talked to
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him the other day, and he asked him to
bring him books.
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He was like, give me books.
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So Robert Sr. is sending him a lot of
books. Maybe I should send him yours.
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He just wants to read.
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There's a chapter in it about you. He'll
love it. Really? Okay.
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Did you not read Heather's book?
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No.
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There's a chapter about you. It is?
Yeah.
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Oh.
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I was so sorry to hear about your mom's
passing.
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I wonder if you...
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Have any regrets about not making amends
before she passed?
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No. No. Why? We've been estranged for 20
-something years. So I don't
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even know what it's like to have a mom.
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There's a documentary series coming out
that says it's examining your church and
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comparing it to a cult. And I know that
your sister is participating.
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The trailer alleges that you're...
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kink is money uh and that your
congregation sees you as god anything
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that you want to say about it or what
what was your reaction her congregation
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believed there to be god it hurt me of
course definitely hurt me but
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i've been through a lot andy i'm pretty
tough so it hurt and it just got put in
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the pile of all the rest of the things
that hurt me It was ironic because the
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response from fans of the show and fans
of you were like, leave her alone.
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We don't want this. I mean, that had to
be gratifying to you. Yeah, yeah. That
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felt good.
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I'm thankful for that.
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But, I mean, they'll see the truth.
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Lisa and Whitney, any comments about the
cult rumor resurfacing about Mary's
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church?
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No, I stand on the side of I'm glad to
see people standing up for Mary and
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supporting her.
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I feel bad that they're doing this to
her. It's old news. I wish it weren't
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coming out.
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They've been saying that since my church
opened.
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They said it about my grandmother.
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They said it about... Why has that
stuck? Why has it been repeated?
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I don't know. I think it's because of
the policy and the rules and the
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things that our church does.
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And they're not used to a Pentecostal
church in Utah.
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And not used to a black church.
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And I just think they think it's, I
don't know. I have no idea.
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Lisa, the Church of Satan posted on
Twitter and said they've never asked for
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Vita tequila donations from you. Well, I
guess I'm going to have to pull out the
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tax donation slip.
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Really? Yeah. Did you really? You have
really donated tequila to the Church of
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Satan?
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Two cases.
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It's been a while. Why?
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Why? I thought you were kidding.
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Not to be a moron, but I didn't realize
there really actually is a church of
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Satan. I never heard of it. Can I give
two things?
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One of them is like a really good
political action group that does stuff
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women's rights. And one is an actual
church of Satan. Actually, what she's
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saying is true.
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I didn't ask many questions. I just
said, send the address and we'll make
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delivery. Oh, wow. What's the belief
system there?
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There's no afterlife. Lisa, I have a
question for you. What would Jesus do?
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Jesus would give him the tequila. No.
No, he wouldn't. Jesus would not like
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this. No, I think Jesus would give him
the tequila and say, good luck.
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Mary, what did you think of Brittany
calling you the least Christ -like
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she's ever met?
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I didn't like that.
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I wouldn't have either.
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I didn't like having said that. And just
having said that is not Christ -like
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either. So, again, I'm sorry.
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But I have to say, you are being really
mean.
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You're being really mean. And you're
not. You're not mean.
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You pretend you're nice and you're not
nice. I was literally sitting there
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minding my own business.
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And you were like, you're not cute.
Andy, I don't want to waste my time on
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You're not funny. She just wants
attention. No, no, no. And I was like,
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the least Christ -like person. You stuck
your finger.
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I meant everything I said. I went like
this. And I would say it again. Oh, my
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God. That was when I said, you are the
least Christ -like person. I meant it in
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the moment.
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But again, I'm sorry. It wasn't a Christ
-like thing to say.
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Do you accept her apology?
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I mean, I don't think I'll ever like
her. Do you feel badly for being mean to
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me? Do you ever feel badly for being
mean to me? Ever? No, but I'm not mean
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you. I respond to you. Oh, you think
that saying, you're not cute, you're not
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funny, you're not welcome here, you're
just a friend, why are you even here?
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I don't know.
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You tell me. If I just say that out of
the blue. Sometimes you do. Yeah,
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sometimes you do. Okay.
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CoffeeIsLove on Twitter said, Mary was
right about Meredith not sticking up for
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Lisa on the yacht trip. Oh, God.
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Meredith, what's your version of
sticking up for your friend? Well,
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her friend, I never read the suit. I
heard from her about it. So I couldn't
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combat what they were saying about the
suit because I didn't know anything
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it. Meredith and I are great friends,
and I don't think... I mean, now.
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What did you just say, Mary? I said now
you guys are good friends. No, we were
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always good friends, and we had a
fallout for a minute. Even when you
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a whore and said that she slept with
half New York?
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Do you want to go through the list of
everything?
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Everybody's called Meredith. Are you
just going to fixate on mine? Because I
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motherfucking sick of hearing the same
goddamn things on repeat.
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I'm done.
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I'm done. I don't normally do it, but
I'm frustrated.
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I am frustrated. However the fuck you
say that word. Why did you go back to
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that? Well, I mean, it was pretty
significant. I would say it took you two
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to come back together. But it's also
four, almost five years ago. And you
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what? Because I have to say.
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As a viewer, it permeates my thoughts
when I watch the two of you
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that you two were able to get on the
other side about it. Yeah, but the funny
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part is, is everyone sitting here
repeatedly called me a grudge holder,
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one can understand why I've moved on.
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That's what's really hypocritical. It is
hard to understand. Yeah, and I've
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moved on from things, too. Why was I
criticized that I was a grudge holder
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I was upset? I think it's great that you
moved on, but I marvel at it. It is
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great. Lisa, were you surprised Mary
took your side?
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Lisa doesn't care.
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Lisa is all about Lisa, and that's it.
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She probably doesn't even know what
you're talking about.
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She doesn't look like she does.
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You probably have to help her. No, I do.
And I'm marveling at what you're saying
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right now, Mary.
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Well, Andy asked you a question. Can you
answer it? I have shown.
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Andy asked you a question. Can you
answer that? I don't need you to tell me
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to do and how to do it. Okay, well, I
need you to answer the question. That's
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why we're here. I'm being thoughtful and
pragmatic about what I'm saying. Okay.
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And you should be happy.
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You should be happy I'm thoughtful and
pragmatic about what I say. I'm not
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about anything when it comes to you,
Lisa.
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This is so out of left field. I think
it's wild.
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Yeah, it's wild, Mary.
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Did you know Mary took your side? Yes, I
do know Mary took my side. And yes, I
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was grateful and I explained that to
Mary. And Mary and I have had numerous
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conversations over the last five years
where I have apologized. She doesn't
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forward and takes us backwards. No, you
don't move forward. Are you serious?
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Mary, I move forward in the biggest of
ways. I don't move forward when you sat
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there with Whitney and said my church
was a cult.
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Mary. Did you forget that? Mary. That
you went after me and you had Cameron on
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the show? Do you not remember none of
that? That I don't move forward? You
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move forward.
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You're the worst person when it comes to
forgiving.
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And you remember everything and you
dwell on it. And you get mad.
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Then you tell it to the press. You tell
it to people. You post on the internet.
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You're at Bravo Cotton talking about
Bronwyn.
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Talking negative. Like you're just, you
live in the negative train.
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I'm just trying to help you out.
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I don't need your help. Well, you need
help. I don't need your help. You need
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somebody else because you're dark. Mary,
do you want to keep talking? You're
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very dark, Lisa.
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Mary, I don't know where this attack is
coming from. I'm not attacking you. Yes,
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you are. You just did.
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You just did.
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You told her she was very dark.
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Yes, you just did.
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I think she is. Okay.
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You know what? I've tried to move on
with you. I'm resolved.
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I'm good.
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Okay.
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Welcome back to the Real Housewives of
Salt Lake City reunion.
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The Salt Lake City women left the rough
seas of Canaan only to have a very
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turbulent flight back to Utah. And since
there was regrettably no footage of
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what Meredith did or didn't do in that
first class cabin, what was left to fill
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the void was a Rashomon effect that this
group could not disengage from. Watch.
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I'm actually concerned about something
that I saw on TikTok.
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Seth having a mistress.
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You're a liar and a malicious,
despicable person.
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Good morning.
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Come bearing gifts. That's a gift I
could do without Bronwyn. I think it's a
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gift slash sacrifice.
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Oh. We are going to free you, Uni. Are
you ready?
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One, two.
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Goodbye, Uni.
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Good night, baby.
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It's wet.
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Put it in rice.
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You guys, who threw this over?
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It was me. It was a joke.
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I did it as a joke. You threw it in? You
were with Bronwyn? Yeah, Uni wanted to
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swim.
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I think it's really cruel for someone to
try and ruin my gift.
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Jared went to Great Lakes.
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It was Bronwyn's idea.
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She's mad at me.
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Before we even got on the plane,
Meredith was completely out of her mind.
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was yelling and screaming and crying
because Brittany talked about her
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I could hear her through my headphones
and she's yelling about me. Obviously
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nothing was that deep because I would
have been arrested by an air marshal.
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I would say Meredith's mad. I've never
seen her that upset.
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I was upset.
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vented to a friend.
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Yeah, but Meredith, you lost the right
to cry when you guys harassed her on the
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plane. I lost the right to my feelings.
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You lost the privilege to speak about
it. So stop talking to me then.
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I wanted to tell you that I am sorry
that you heard me talking to Lisa on the
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plane. And I feel terribly that I hurt
your feelings.
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Thank you for that apology. That means a
lot.
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It was a shady thing to do, to bring up
the TikTok.
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And I'm sorry.
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I brought everybody a gift. Multi -drug
urine test cup.
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What in the world? If you have made an
accusation against me for substance
457
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:30,390
abuse, I think you need to take the
test. I was reacting to your behavior on
458
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:35,990
plane. You lied, you lied, and all said
horrible things about me that didn't
459
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:38,330
happen. Are you fucking kidding me right
now?
460
00:25:38,530 --> 00:25:39,690
I did nothing wrong.
461
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:43,070
I was a good friend to you, and I'm
going to be a great friend to her.
462
00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:49,940
All right.
463
00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:54,860
We have a lot to cover on this topic,
but first I want to ask Meredith and
464
00:25:54,860 --> 00:25:57,840
Brittany where the two of you stand
today.
465
00:25:58,460 --> 00:26:02,420
I feel like it's just we don't. Yeah,
it's just nothing.
466
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,160
Okay. Shakai from Carlsbad said,
Brittany, why bring up that obscure
467
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,280
TikTok about Seth's alleged infidelity
on the show?
468
00:26:13,879 --> 00:26:17,340
That's such a good question. I'm glad
that got asked because I feel like it's
469
00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:23,320
really important to always tell, to be a
girl's girl. The way I did it, because
470
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,700
you were calling me an alcoholic at that
moment, and I didn't pound a drink. I
471
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:31,480
came and sipped a little bit of tequila,
and then all of a sudden it was this
472
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,060
big tequila game. It didn't have to be.
I just asked you a question.
473
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,700
Well, it was a shady question, and you
know it. And I admitted, at least I
474
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:40,000
admitted, that bringing it up, the
TikTok.
475
00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:44,360
in our group setting was shady you you
still to this day haven't admitted
476
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:48,940
anything that you did was wrong all you
said was you hurt my feelings i'm sorry
477
00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:53,620
that i hurt your feelings that is the
stupidest dumb ass apology i've ever
478
00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:58,320
in my life yeah i'm sorry it is leaving
a lot out you guys are talking about me
479
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,260
to each other whatever you think did
anyone here actually believe the alleged
480
00:27:03,260 --> 00:27:06,600
infidelity tick tock Yes. No.
481
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,820
Not in a shot of her imagination.
482
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:13,600
I didn't even think twice. Not at the
moment. I shouldn't have said it in the
483
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,060
group. Your intention was to hurt me, as
you told me. No, my intention was... I
484
00:27:18,060 --> 00:27:21,000
mean, a lot of times marriages get
brought up in this group, and the
485
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,000
is never nice.
486
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:26,380
Like, I'm not saying what she did is
right, but the rest of us don't flip
487
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Really? I mean, Angie had a flip out for
two years over her marriage. Okay, my
488
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,820
marriage has been talked about a lot.
489
00:27:33,370 --> 00:27:36,430
And you didn't say, oh, I saw this
TikTok. You tried to say you know
490
00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:39,610
that my husband was cheating on me. And
I didn't throw shit. I didn't bully
491
00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:43,750
anybody. I didn't lose my mind,
allegedly. I didn't bully anybody
492
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:47,650
You can feel what you feel, but what you
do with those feelings is up to the
493
00:27:47,650 --> 00:27:51,050
person. Okay. You know what I mean? By
the way, you said on Watch What Happens
494
00:27:51,050 --> 00:27:55,390
Live the other night that you have proof
that Seth was unfaithful.
495
00:27:56,130 --> 00:28:00,310
Brittany, do you have any additional
evidence other than a TikTok that Seth
496
00:28:00,310 --> 00:28:01,310
or was?
497
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,960
Having extramarital activities.
498
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:06,500
Maybe.
499
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:11,700
Yeah,
500
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,720
yeah, I do.
501
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,720
You said on Watch What Happens Live the
other night that you have proof that.
502
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,600
Seth was unfaithful.
503
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,920
Yeah, yeah, I do.
504
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,980
Did my face just go beet red?
505
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:41,100
Well, I mean, it's not proof that would
hold up in court, but yeah, I mean, it's
506
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,200
hearsay. Here we go.
507
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Here we go. Yeah, Seth told someone
that's close to me.
508
00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:52,520
That told me that, yeah, I have two
girlfriends where I work. You're saying
509
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,420
Seth told Jared this because you told me
that, and I thought it was ridiculous.
510
00:28:57,460 --> 00:29:02,240
Let's call my husband then, just like I
did when these accusations were first
511
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,560
shown. Okay. All right, moving on. Hi,
honey. Okay,
512
00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:12,040
moving on. Hi, honey. Listen to this.
Brittany's trying to say that you
513
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,540
in Jared, and you're like, I got two
girls on the side. Why isn't Meredith
514
00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:16,660
talking to her own husband?
515
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:19,810
We're close friends. Here we go again,
honey.
516
00:29:20,850 --> 00:29:23,190
We're close friends. I wouldn't put him
in this moment.
517
00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:24,670
It's not going to hurt his feelings.
518
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:27,710
It will. Because it's not true.
519
00:29:27,910 --> 00:29:31,590
You know? Yeah, it's dumb. But we can
handle it. They have a harder time. You
520
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:35,150
think so? Yeah, processing, they do.
Honey, does it bother you that I called
521
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,170
about this? Okay, hold on. Let Meredith.
522
00:29:38,129 --> 00:29:41,730
Okay. Seth, do you have anything you
want to say?
523
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:45,190
I don't get it. I do not get it. Do you
have anything you want to say? Andy's
524
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:48,910
getting everyone to be quiet for one
minute. You can say whatever you want.
525
00:29:48,910 --> 00:29:52,290
you have multiple, or do you have any
girlfriends besides me?
526
00:29:53,530 --> 00:30:00,410
If people get told that I'm infatuated
with you, then they're,
527
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:02,330
you know, that's not my fault.
528
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,380
I also think anyone who thinks I'm
cheating on you also believes in Santa
529
00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:14,120
and Bigfoot. It's about him. Thank you.
So there you go. I love you, honey.
530
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,340
Okay. Thank you.
531
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:17,300
Okay. It's you.
532
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:22,070
Let's talk about all the other things
Jared said. Yeah, let's do it. Like that
533
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:27,310
your husband goes to Dubai and gets ED
meds and stuff. She said a lot of stuff.
534
00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:31,090
She said a lot of stuff. I did hear that
you told Brittany she should make sure
535
00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:35,230
to say that on camera. No, her boyfriend
did on camera. He brought it up at
536
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:38,410
Amy's party. He brought it up at Amy's
party.
537
00:30:38,650 --> 00:30:41,090
He was so happy to say it at Amy's
party.
538
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:43,030
Jared, I was just asking for you.
539
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:47,730
Why don't you tell Amy here about where
Todd wanted you and him to go?
540
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,540
Tell her what he wanted you to do.
541
00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:52,080
Jared, say it. You said it to all of us.
542
00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:57,900
Say it. I am staying out of any
controversy. You're not. I am in the
543
00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,420
won't vote for you unless you tell her.
544
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720
I'm going to have to plead the fifth. I
have to plead the fifth. No, no, no. You
545
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,540
don't. Tell her where she wants. Where
did Dodd want to go with you?
546
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Bronwyn and I are on great terms.
547
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,660
And then you doubled down and told her
to make sure it got on camera by saying
548
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:13,599
it agrees.
549
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,420
Hassan from Texas said, Brittany, can
you see I'm mentioning Meredith vomiting
550
00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:21,860
last year and coming for her husband and
saying she has seizures this year
551
00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:26,560
triggered her. Can you own your part in
it? Sure. I didn't say she had seizures.
552
00:31:26,820 --> 00:31:32,100
I haven't seen Meredith yet without her
having a seizure of some sort.
553
00:31:32,860 --> 00:31:36,860
My daughter, Olivia, had seizures when
she was little. When Meredith goes like
554
00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:43,540
this and she's screaming at me, you're
vile and disgusting human being. It
555
00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:47,460
triggers me. I'm sorry. It triggered me.
I wasn't saying she was having
556
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:52,280
seizures. I was merely sort of making
light of it. It was a terrible joke. I'm
557
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920
sorry. But it's also triggering to me.
558
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,700
Bronwyn, why did you offer Meredith
Brittany's unicorn as a sacrifice?
559
00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:01,890
I really thought it was silly.
560
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:06,730
I realized now watching it back, it
looked very mean. It broke the voice
561
00:32:06,890 --> 00:32:11,410
The whole thing was stupid to me, but it
hurt your feelings. I apologized to
562
00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:15,330
you. I chased you down when we got off
the boat and said I was sorry.
563
00:32:15,670 --> 00:32:22,510
Okay. Number one question that I keep
getting, and I know you all
564
00:32:22,510 --> 00:32:26,450
keep getting, is why didn't anyone
record
565
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:30,750
On the plane. Why didn't anyone pick up
their phone?
566
00:32:31,610 --> 00:32:35,090
Now, I have a theory on this. I have so
many theories on this. Heather?
567
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:38,850
Whitney said this to me in the dressing
room this morning. I was kind of
568
00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:43,750
shocked. She's like, my biggest regret
is not picking up my phone and recording
569
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:48,530
it. Okay. And I thought, just being
honest, I thought.
570
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,640
What kind of piece of shit person would
we be to record what was happening and,
571
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,780
like, film it? Because this is
entertaining.
572
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:56,980
It was weird.
573
00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:58,220
It was crazy behavior.
574
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,880
It was what we've seen from Matt before.
We were just tolerating it to get home
575
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
because we knew why she was mad.
576
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:07,560
But it shifted in the flight.
577
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,620
Sal from Texas said, Heather, you
recorded in the bathroom in Palm Springs
578
00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:14,880
Lisa lost her $60 ,000 ring, but you
didn't record this?
579
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:20,530
Thank you.
580
00:33:27,659 --> 00:33:31,320
Didn't it? Did it occur to you that
Meredith would lie and you needed proof?
581
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,260
No. If Whitney had taken out her phone,
if Mary, if production had taken out
582
00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:37,740
their phone, can you imagine if I had
taken out my phone? What the fuck are
583
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:41,320
guys doing? Well, that's the point I was
going to make. The last time you took
584
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,060
out your phone, it did not go well. You
need to leave.
585
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:48,820
I've had enough of you. This is insane.
You are vile.
586
00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:52,950
You're recording me? She recorded me. I
have had enough. It didn't go well.
587
00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:54,350
She's recording us.
588
00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:55,790
I'm the last person.
589
00:33:56,110 --> 00:34:00,250
That's my first point. My second point
is we don't really record each other.
590
00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:02,430
And I understood why you were mad.
591
00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:07,590
It escalated. It escalated. It
escalated. It escalated. We were on your
592
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:11,110
don't know at what point it tipped. But
maybe when we were hustling her through.
593
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:12,190
I don't know, Meredith.
594
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:15,050
No, you weren't on my side. I brought on
that plane on your side. I texted you
595
00:34:15,050 --> 00:34:18,230
guys on your side. I texted you when you
got off the jet when you were screaming
596
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:20,130
at me. You were not on my side at
breakfast that morning. Because as we
597
00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:21,130
out of breakfast.
598
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,460
I even said to you, I am shocked I
didn't have support from you this
599
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:28,780
She deserves every ounce of what I said.
600
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,800
And the fact that you support her is
disappointing.
601
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:34,820
I'm just trying to survive here.
602
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:36,980
It's just a fucking hot mess.
603
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:45,969
I mean, Meredith, your ability to recall
specific information when it serves
604
00:34:45,969 --> 00:34:49,850
you. My feelings were heard. I remember
it. Were your feelings heard when we
605
00:34:49,850 --> 00:34:51,030
told you what you were doing on the
plane?
606
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:54,570
Do you recall what you were doing on the
plane? No, I never said it didn't
607
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:56,350
happen. Excuse me?
608
00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:59,790
What did I say to you on the plane? You
don't remember a thing you said to me on
609
00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:03,130
the plane. Lisa had to tell you. I had
to tell you. And then you still denied
610
00:35:03,130 --> 00:35:05,930
it. Talk over her. She screeched at me
for two months.
611
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:08,470
Screeched at you for two months? You
did. Fuck you.
612
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:10,530
Fuck you for saying that.
613
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:15,830
I've never preached to you, and I will
start.
614
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:18,510
Our friendship is over from this moment
on.
615
00:35:18,830 --> 00:35:19,830
I can't.
616
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:24,850
Buckle up, Meredith. It's not going to
be a fun ride.
617
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,980
I mean, Meredith, do you recall what you
were doing on the plane with such
618
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:42,320
accuracy? Oh, she screeched at me for
two months. She screeched at you for two
619
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,500
months? Fuck you.
620
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,580
Fuck you for saying that. I've never
screeched at you, and I will start.
621
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,980
Okay, well, it's over from this moment
on.
622
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,340
Buckle up, Meredith.
623
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,020
It's not going to be a fun ride.
624
00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:57,420
That sounds like a threat.
625
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:58,720
Wow. Yeah, it is.
626
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,000
That's very transparent. I've been your
friend for six years. I sat on shit. I
627
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
backed you.
628
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Vaginagate. Rolling Thunder.
629
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:13,960
Garbage whore. Fucked half of New York.
Wait, why don't we do it? I had
630
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,700
your back.
631
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,080
And you know what? I have backed you on
everything. This is the first time I've
632
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,980
ever seen you speak up. You've used
maybe ten words tonight.
633
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,960
I've had plenty to say and it's daytime,
but that's okay.
634
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:29,030
You know what? Yeah.
635
00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:33,510
Good luck to you. Heather's been so
supportive about you. Even when you and
636
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:37,330
weren't in a great place, she spoke so
highly of you. She has had your back for
637
00:36:37,330 --> 00:36:38,330
years.
638
00:36:38,410 --> 00:36:41,590
Really admired you, and I think she's
been a great friend. So why is she so
639
00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:44,810
triggered by me just saying that she
responded? Because you're calling her a
640
00:36:44,810 --> 00:36:49,070
liar. You said you lied to me when I did
not lie. I will get there. We're not on
641
00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:49,569
that yet.
642
00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:53,190
You're the liar. Can I get past what I
wanted to say that I can't get a word
643
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:55,510
out? You've never apologized for looking
at me, and you've never even admitted
644
00:36:55,510 --> 00:37:00,810
it. Everyone wants to talk, and you all
will talk.
645
00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:02,030
Thank you. Okay?
646
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:03,990
Promise? Yes, I promise.
647
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:06,810
Okay. Do we want?
648
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:12,060
each of you, Brittany and Meredith, to
say what you think happened.
649
00:37:12,260 --> 00:37:15,440
No, I have a question first. Okay, ask
the question. Because I've been trying
650
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,120
ask the question since the whole thing
started.
651
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,200
And my question is... To whom? To the
group? To the whole group. To everybody.
652
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:27,280
I didn't deny that anything happened. I
never said that. Something did happen.
653
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
What we don't agree on is exactly what
happened.
654
00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:32,100
And if what...
655
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:36,940
Everybody, not everybody, but the
majority of people here are saying
656
00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:42,540
can't, for the life of me, understand
how anyone who is Brittany's friend
657
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:46,940
get up to help her. And anyone who's my
friend, if you're so terribly concerned
658
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:49,000
about me, as you guys expressed, didn't.
659
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:51,720
come to me and say, hey, Meredith, are
you okay?
660
00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:57,120
I did. What's going on here? Lisa did,
and I did when we got off the plane. And
661
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,460
I texted you when you were getting on. I
said, I feel sorry that you were so
662
00:38:00,460 --> 00:38:04,560
upset. You saw the text I sent you after
you had said to me, our friendship is
663
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,980
over because you're siding with the
horrible things you said about her that
664
00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:12,560
have not spoken about. Let's talk about
what's not being spoken about that's
665
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,379
protecting you.
666
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:17,940
The horrible, horrible, slanderous,
deafness things that you said about her
667
00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:18,638
the plane.
668
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,980
That we all heard. None of us had spoken
about it. If you think we're protecting
669
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:23,920
Britney, we're protecting you.
670
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,900
And they were libelous and they were
horrible.
671
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,799
I did.
672
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,260
I tried. I asked Meredith multiple
times. Meredith, we know you're upset,
673
00:38:35,260 --> 00:38:38,480
quiet. Calm down. And then you bring me
into the fight.
674
00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:42,240
I kept saying, did I not say be quiet?
675
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:47,180
I asked her multiple times to be quiet.
And then she'd be like, give me up to
676
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:51,230
TikTok. Give me the TikTok. Every time I
tried to talk to Meredith, she'd bring
677
00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:54,930
me into the fight and be like, we want
the TikTok. Lisa would lean over and
678
00:38:54,930 --> 00:38:56,270
at me. And I did.
679
00:38:56,650 --> 00:38:59,030
One at a time. One at a time.
680
00:38:59,550 --> 00:39:04,450
Meredith, what did Whitney say to you on
the plane? The only engagement I had
681
00:39:04,450 --> 00:39:10,430
with Whitney on the plane was in the
last hour or so, it was close to landing
682
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:15,110
time. I said to Lisa, nobody can find
this TikTok.
683
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:20,750
I even asked Whitney. And Whitney said,
I hear my name. What are you saying
684
00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:24,870
about me? I said, you couldn't find the
Tic Tac. No. Lisa, lean over to my
685
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:28,570
chair. Stop interrupting. I will let you
speak. No, I did not. So I said to
686
00:39:28,570 --> 00:39:29,570
Whitney.
687
00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:35,500
I told her what I said, and she snapped
at me and said, you go find the fucking
688
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:39,720
TikTok. And I go, whoa, that was really
nasty out of nowhere.
689
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,800
Not out of nowhere, girl. I thought you
didn't remember anything from the plane.
690
00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:48,500
I remember everything. You're the one
who said I don't remember. So when it
691
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:49,680
serves you, you remember.
692
00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:54,420
But I was there for Brittany, and I did
engage with Meredith. Why did no one
693
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:55,700
switch seats with Brittany?
694
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:57,060
Because.
695
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,600
It's almost a six -hour international
flight. We were in full descent when it
696
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,480
really started to get raucous, like zip
-tied to the seat raucous.
697
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,940
Even the flight attendants were checking
on us. They were buckled in. We were
698
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:14,560
nose down. I had just barely come back
from the bathroom. They're like, get...
699
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,780
Get to your seat. That's when I came
back with wine on my seat.
700
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,380
What? My seat. My mate is like, I'm so
sorry. Do I need to pull up information
701
00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:24,160
about unruly passengers? That was when
people started screaming at each other.
702
00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:28,340
It was too late. It was. It was too
late. Okay. All right. Okay. Let me ask
703
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:32,060
this. We have a producer sitting right
behind me. Why don't you ask her what
704
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:35,840
happened? She was in a different class
of service from you. What I'm saying is
705
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,780
didn't dump wine. I didn't kick a seat.
Okay. If you want to tell me. Okay.
706
00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:46,200
All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. She said
you pulled her hair. Yeah, that's what
707
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,300
saying. If that happened. You said to me
that getting up from your seat, using
708
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:53,940
your body weight to use her chair, that
maybe inadvertently her hair felt
709
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:57,760
jostling. No, I didn't touch her hair. I
wouldn't touch her hair. Okay. You
710
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,380
wouldn't know. It made her feel like her
hair was being pulled.
711
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:06,760
So, Meredith, specifically, you are
denying what the women have said about
712
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,240
they say happened on the phone. That I
had direct engagement with Brittany. I
713
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,420
was talking to Lisa.
714
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:17,480
I didn't touch Brittany. The only time I
had any contact was when Lisa was
715
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,200
sleeping and I had to climb over her.
Okay. So that was the only contact.
716
00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:29,350
verbal or physical that I had with
Brittany on this one. Just using the
717
00:41:29,350 --> 00:41:30,990
get to the bathroom. I didn't actually
touch her.
718
00:41:31,470 --> 00:41:34,610
When you said this one... I didn't say
this one. She was sleeping. Who would I
719
00:41:34,610 --> 00:41:39,590
be talking to? She had to have shaken
the chair because Brittany's chair was
720
00:41:39,590 --> 00:41:44,090
front of Lisa. Okay. Right. But I wasn't
going like this. I was using it to
721
00:41:44,090 --> 00:41:45,290
climb over with a sprained toe.
722
00:41:45,830 --> 00:41:50,730
Correct. I used it to climb over with a
sprained toe. Meredith, did you...
723
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,380
Shake the chair a little harder than
necessary when you walked by just to
724
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:56,580
point. No. No.
725
00:41:56,820 --> 00:42:00,600
Probably, maybe. Yeah. A little bit. I
mean, this is a little ridiculous.
726
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:02,000
All right. Okay.
727
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,240
All right. Can I ask you this?
728
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:09,060
Did you have a drink before you got on
the plane?
729
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:16,890
Okay. Let's backtrack for one moment
before we delve any further. And I will
730
00:42:16,890 --> 00:42:19,990
revisit this with you in just a moment.
Okay. I think what's really important
731
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:24,930
here that's going by the wayside is
discussing why I have such a fractured
732
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:26,250
relationship with Brittany.
733
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:40,190
Did you have a drink before?
734
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,800
You got on the plane.
735
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,040
Okay. Let's backtrack for one moment
before we delve any further. And I will
736
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,160
revisit this with you in just a moment.
Okay. I think what's really important
737
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,100
here that's going by the wayside is
discussing why I have such a fractured
738
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:58,860
relationship with Brittany. Okay.
739
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,880
And it's rooted in bigotry.
740
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:07,150
Okay. And it's something I addressed
with her off camera. Okay. And she was
741
00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:10,190
nasty to me. Finally, she eked out an
apology.
742
00:43:10,830 --> 00:43:11,830
Eked out?
743
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:17,490
I snuggled you. Okay, let her speak. So
do you want to tell me what it was that
744
00:43:17,490 --> 00:43:20,210
you're referring to? Yeah, she supported
a bigot.
745
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:26,670
This nail technician, this was on the
news and all over social media, he had
746
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:32,220
this interaction with a Jewish man where
allegedly he was like, oh, you're
747
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:36,360
Jewish, and made a nasty emoji on it.
And the guy's like, what's wrong with
748
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,400
that? And the nail tech responded with,
Jews are pedophiles who escape
749
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,480
prosecution by fleeing to Israel.
750
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:48,940
Wow. And he was, like, this was all over
the news, all over social media, and
751
00:43:48,940 --> 00:43:51,460
the guy was attacked on his Google
review page.
752
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,380
Okay. So he reached out to Brittany and
Jared and asked them to do a review to
753
00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:59,480
combat all the negative reviews he was
receiving because he's an anti -Semite.
754
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Okay.
755
00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:05,240
And they wrote a glowing review for him.
Okay. And they were DM'd and called out
756
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:10,100
about it all over social media. And
Brittany's response was, I only saw the
757
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,100
thing. Was there more?
758
00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:13,980
Okay. That was a problem.
759
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:18,640
Never picked up the phone and said,
Meredith, I know you saw this. And I
760
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,460
explain what happened. This is not true.
Nothing.
761
00:44:21,980 --> 00:44:27,020
Silence. Nothing. Then when I was, I
said, at the RV trip.
762
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:32,410
It is festering inside me, and I am much
more hostile to Brittany than the
763
00:44:32,410 --> 00:44:34,190
viewer could possibly understand.
764
00:44:34,450 --> 00:44:39,190
It's not going to add up. Right. So she
said, let's all sit down and talk. And
765
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:42,430
when I started trying to explain this to
Brittany, she was screaming at me to
766
00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:47,990
shut up. She was nasty and condescending
and very, very rude. I'm so pissed.
767
00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:54,110
After a half hour, 40 minutes, I got a
halfway apology that I accepted.
768
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:55,530
Okay.
769
00:44:55,769 --> 00:44:58,290
Your version is what? That's absolutely
ridiculous.
770
00:44:58,630 --> 00:45:02,470
Okay. So the nail tech reached out to me
and said, hey, I do Meredith Marks
771
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:05,530
nails. I would love to come do your
nails for free for a post. I said, sure,
772
00:45:05,650 --> 00:45:06,670
absolutely. Did great nails.
773
00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:09,890
Reached out to me and said, hey, I'm
getting bad reviews.
774
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:13,130
Can you write a good review? I'm like,
oh, absolutely.
775
00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:15,510
That's the least I could do. You're
doing my nails for free.
776
00:45:15,790 --> 00:45:16,790
Wrote a great review.
777
00:45:16,830 --> 00:45:20,610
The next thing I know, someone sends me
posts and I'm like, whoa, what's
778
00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:22,310
happening? I called him and I said.
779
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Is this right? Are you anti -Semitic?
I'm going to take down my review and
780
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,260
contact me again. Now, I'm not going to
reach out to you because, A, you use the
781
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:34,020
same technician as me. You are just as
guilty as not knowing as me.
782
00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:36,820
But one thing was on the news. I didn't
write him a review. Did you use the
783
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:41,020
technician? That's why this is so
sensitive to me. I was in my home, Andy.
784
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,820
Okay. This is very sensitive to me.
Yeah.
785
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:46,960
I did it. I handled it exactly the way I
was supposed to.
786
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:50,760
When you wrote the review, did you know
he was anti -Semitic? No clue.
787
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,260
It was all over the news and all over
the Internet.
788
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,400
Are you anti -Semitic? No.
789
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,880
Apologize to her. I did a thousand
times, but I have to finish this story.
790
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,379
have to.
791
00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:06,300
Please let me finish this because that
is like literally one of the worst
792
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:10,020
accusations you can make of a human
being. Correct. And I'm the farthest
793
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:14,740
from to it, and I will not be called
that without hearing me out. Okay.
794
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:16,400
I handled it.
795
00:46:17,259 --> 00:46:21,180
Exactly the right way. And when I found
out what it meant to you, and when I
796
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:24,620
found out that you really actually felt
this way, what did I do?
797
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,600
I cried and I held you in my arms like a
child.
798
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,400
And I snuggled you like this.
799
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,600
I'm sorry, I'm about to mess up your
hair. I went like this. Oh, God. It
800
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,800
like a theater voice to me.
801
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,540
I was like this. I was like, I am so, so
sorry. I had no idea.
802
00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:41,920
And I cried.
803
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,560
Can you not believe that maybe she
really didn't know?
804
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:52,620
So she's innocent, but we're always
guilty. This is what she did when we
805
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,920
She made herself the victim.
806
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:57,760
I feel like she's very sorry.
807
00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:00,700
Well, why can't she just say it? That's
what I'm saying.
808
00:47:00,980 --> 00:47:05,760
I had no idea. I feel like she's
literally just looking for something
809
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,698
nasty to say about me.
810
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:10,040
Has she ever said anything anti -Semitic
to you?
811
00:47:10,420 --> 00:47:14,120
She's been on the attack of me from day
one. I was nice to her and she just
812
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,920
started attacking me. But did you feel
she was attacking you because of your
813
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,240
religion? It felt like it was very
targeted. I don't understand this.
814
00:47:23,070 --> 00:47:24,070
It's so unfair.
815
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:25,590
It is so unfair.
816
00:47:26,250 --> 00:47:27,490
And it's not right.
817
00:47:28,030 --> 00:47:29,030
It's not right.
818
00:47:29,790 --> 00:47:32,370
Yeah, she's the victim here. I'm not the
victim.
819
00:47:32,590 --> 00:47:34,530
I'm just so sick of this bullshit.
820
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:37,630
It's just an excuse to be mad at me, and
I don't understand.
821
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:41,490
It's not fair, and I'm so sick of being
ganged up on.
822
00:47:42,110 --> 00:47:44,790
I'm so tired of being the low -hanging
fruit.
823
00:47:45,070 --> 00:47:47,210
Me called bigoted. It's not okay.
824
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:48,750
It's not okay.
825
00:47:50,050 --> 00:47:51,850
You need to go.
826
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Fuck this.
827
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,140
Stop calling me a victim. I'm not a
victim.
828
00:47:59,540 --> 00:48:00,540
I'm not kidding.
829
00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:02,060
Leave me alone.
830
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,060
Next week, the reunion concludes.
831
00:48:06,740 --> 00:48:11,000
You said that I popped pills. I didn't
say that you popped pills. Please don't
832
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,580
say you didn't do it. Like, you can't
dare to have a conversation with the
833
00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:18,100
of us. Sit the fuck down and talk
through it with us. Don't talk to me
834
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:21,660
Lisa, it seems like John wants to
embarrass you on camera.
835
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,960
do i have more questions about todd i do
so todd and i are separated
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