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Tonight, the explosive three -part Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion
begins. People have all benefited from my wins, and that's exciting for them. I
mean, if I were a credit card, I'd probably sue you for identity theft. Oh,
goodness. If I landed Captain Jason, I'd be wearing a sailor suit.
Any comments about the cult rumor resurfacing about your church?
I'm the one that feels like I always fuck up.
Do I have more questions about Todd? I do.
So Todd and I are separated.
You lie about me. No.
I'm so sick of being ganged up on. It's not okay. She screeched at me for two
months. Screeched at you for two months? Yeah. Fuck you.
I'm not the source. Well, see, I just read a scroll.
Open that.
I would like you to explain yourself.
The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion starts now.
Well,
hello. Hi. Oh, my God, you look so beautiful.
We're in Greece. I'm in Santorini. How are you? Better now.
Hi, Whitney.
Hello. Wow, this is lovely.
Angie. Opa. Opa.
Hi. Hi, hi, hi.
DJ Meredith Mark.
Everybody looks amazing.
Five,
four, three, two, one.
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 6
reunion. I'm Andy Cohen. We have transferred these good time girls back
Greek life, so to speak.
Kalispera, Angie.
Kalispera. Bravo, bravo. I also want to say hi to what I hope is a staff of
medics standing by backstage in case Angie has any accidents today. She will.
DJ Meredith Marks, great to see you. Great to see you, too. How's the tour
going? It's good. I'm on a little pause from Thanksgiving and now reunion, and
we'll amp it back up shortly.
Excellent. Hi, Bronwyn. Hi. You look beautiful. Thank you. I know I'm looking
couture right now. Can we expect a costume change later today? No costume
changes today. This is it. This is it. Just this.
Hi, Whitney.
Hi, Andy. I am loving that you're back to your blonde look.
Thank you.
Hi, Heather.
Hi. How are you? Good.
I loved surviving Mormonism. Thank you. It was absolutely incredible.
This has been really, really well received.
I'm happy.
Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.
Hi, Pastor Mary.
We going to eat, drink, and be married today? That's right.
I don't know anything else. Okay. Very good.
Hi, baby gorgeous. Hi. How are you?
Good. Still leading a very different life from everybody? Always. Yes.
Meredith, what's your goal coming into tonight's reunion?
Well, I think before I can even address anything, there's one question I need to
ask, which will change the trajectory of today for me. So I just think to ask
Whitney, when we spoke at BravoCon, you said there were some things you wanted
to clear up. So I want to go ahead and give you the floor to do that.
I would love to clear the floor.
So I drank a lot at BravoCon.
When I drink, I'm a very happy, loving drunk.
I love to love on people.
I tried to talk to Meredith of I...
I'm sorry for how things have fallen out with us. I want to be your friend.
That is what happened. Instead, she went and said that I retracted everything
that I've said about her. No, what you asked me is why we can't just be friends
off camera and leave camera on.
That's where you started. And I said, because they are the same thing.
I said, because they are the same thing and I can't do that. And then you said,
well, you were pushing me away. I said, yes, I established boundaries.
You said, I don't like that you called me a liar. And I said, well, then don't
lie about me. And you said, you're right, I shouldn't lie about you. I'll
it up. I did not retract.
from anything I said. You took my trying to be kind to you, and you went and
lied about me. You were fall -down drunk. Your husband carried you
At BravoCon, in a happy drinking moment, maybe I, trust me, I'm never going to
do it again. Like, I will never try to be your friend again.
But my intention was, I don't get it. I've always supported you. I've always
loved you. I've had your back. When Lisa said, awful, horrible things about you.
You've all said awful, horrible things about her. But I have not. I do not lie.
And you took... You took the advantage of... We were whores and cheaters. Lisa,
shut it up. No, I'm not going to shut it, but don't bring me into your
and I won't talk about it now. You took... She always talks for Meredith.
She always talks for Meredith.
You took... You took what happened at BravoCon. You lied about me. But I stand
by... everything that I've witnessed on the plane.
I stand by my opinions about your life.
So now that you have the answer to your question, how will the trajectory of the
night go?
I'm waiting.
Are you going to apologize to lying about me?
I didn't lie, Whitney.
You're the one who lied, and you didn't like that you were called out and I did
not lie.
I own that I was drunk, and I've already apologized to Andy for being too drunk.
Watch what happens live. That's on me. I know. We were just scared you weren't
going to make it across the stage. Well, my feet weren't working. Okay. We're
going to leave it there and we will parse through some of this.
I remember our conversation and you lied about me. You need to stop.
You need to stop. You need to start owning your shit. Oh, I do.
I own what I do. I don't own things that I don't do that you create for me to
say I do. That sounds like a whole bunch of semantics right there.
All right. I don't own lies about me. It sounds like the truth. But I'll own my
truth. Goodbye.
It sounds like the truth. John, thank you. Okay.
Lisa, want to talk about you for a little bit? Yeah, okay.
Okay. Lisa may have skipped Angie's RV. I needed a few minutes, but I'm okay.
Okay, well, we're going now. We're going. Lisa may have skipped Angie's RV
to hang with Ben and Blake, but when the time came to defend herself against
fanciful tales and legal drama, she definitely showed up. Does Lisa love her
life? Yes.
Did her clarity lunch raise more questions than answers?
Yes. Are we going to roll a clip?
You bet. Take a look.
Jesus, take the wheel. Take the wheel, baby.
We're waiting for Angie and Mary. Angie and Mary? Lisa? No, Lisa's not coming.
I don't want to spend the night with Ron when he's a pathological liar. She
hasn't shared anything with me, but I mean, I read what's online, and I think
that there's a lot out there.
And by the way, most of the lawsuits that I have looked at, I don't know how
many there are that I don't know of, but I've seen at least five that have been
filed against Lisa. One might say it's similar to what Jen Shah did.
So we should hash it out. I don't want to talk to you. You're dismissed.
People have a question and a pause about what's going on in your life. I have a
question and a pause about you, you dick sucker.
I'm a dick sucker now.
That's how you have clothes.
At least it's my husband who pays for my clothes. Who's paying your Amex?
Oh my gosh. Take a look.
Dismiss, dismiss, dismiss.
Dismiss because you paid them back or dismiss because they were fake? No,
dismiss because it's none of your fucking business.
You don't know the facts about my business. You do French fries. I do
fries. That was good.
She doesn't want anyone to say anything back to her. She does it to Brittany.
You said so many nasty things back to her. I didn't say so many nasty things
back to her. She called me a cunt and I'm like, thank you. Amen. Here, roll
call. I'm here. There's a reason no one rides hard for you. You're a risky
fucking friend.
Heather, do you still consider Lisa to be a risky friend?
Yeah, I do. Why?
Because I think...
She plays with really high stakes, and she's going to fight to the death. And
so, like, it's her way or the highway. And so I think that makes her a risky
friend.
What's your reaction to that?
Well, I think Heather can be sneaky.
So for me, it's like if you think I'm a risky friend, I think you've been sneaky
in our friendship. I've always been sneaky. And I think that I've been
extremely. Tell me one time I was sneaky to you.
Farting while making out. Angie brought that up. That wasn't meant for anything.
Angie brought that up. Oh, no, because you told her to bring it up and you said
it would be funny. I thought it was funny.
That's snaky.
Snaky behavior is telling Angie to do something and say, it'll be funny, just
say it.
That's really sneaky, and it was... Yeah, that's sneaky.
I'm just saying a fact. You laughed at the airport and said, Heather told me to
do it. She said it would be funny. I didn't laugh. That's sneaky.
No, I didn't. I said what you did was that... Listen, we're not even in the
position, but I'm like, I wouldn't have done that to her.
Guess what? You were saying, I don't do that, and I'm a good person, and that's
what you responded, and I did it to your face, not behind your back. No, no, no.
You were saying, I never do this, I never do that. You don't think it's
to hold your hair in front of your mouth and say that about her?
My reaction to that when you're ready to listen and not talk over me and tag
team because you're codependent in your responses and actions. I mean, that's
really rich that we tag team. I mean, you two. I don't need to tag team. You
don't think you tag team with Meredith? I'm fucking solo, honey. Oh, you're
solo? Yes. Yes.
Coming up.
She says she's not the source. But if you open that, the person calling me has
the same phone number that Lisa has.
That's really rich that we tag team. I mean, you two. I don't need to tag team.
You don't think you'd tag team with Meredith? I'm fucking solo, honey. Oh,
you're solo?
Yes.
So why is she writing for you so hard? I mean, it's not writing for me.
It's being a supportive and loyal friend. It's not about writing for me.
is a very Utah thing.
That's not. Well, you're from Utah.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm not. You are from Utah, girl.
No, I'm not.
How long have you lived in Utah?
You're a real housewife of Salt Lake City. You've lived there for 25 years.
DNA is not Utah.
What's your DNA?
New York. Oh. I can throw. I'll wait.
Mary, do you agree with Heather?
That Lisa is a risky friend? Yeah.
Absolutely. How am I risky, Mary? I want you to answer that. Give me, cite
examples, please. Well, let's start off with you're a little bit delusional.
Okay, I'm delusional. You believe things that are not true, and just like you
said, that you live a different life from all of us. I live a very different
life from all of you.
Which doesn't make sense.
And it's sort of offensive. To me, it does.
It doesn't make sense to me. I think it's delusional. I wouldn't be insecure
think that was delusional or be offended by that.
I do live a different life here, and I don't think there's anything in hell
about that. That's not how it was said. She's including you, too. I agree.
I have a very different life from her and from everybody else here. I think we
all do.
Chanel from Miami said, Whitney, why were you so eager to bring up the
at lunch on the RV trip without Lisa being there to defend herself?
I didn't believe that you were away.
At work.
I think that there's a different reason. I don't know what.
But I know that you've never missed a girl's trip and you've never missed an
opportunity to film.
So I just didn't believe that you were at work. And I never saw you post a
picture with Ben Affleck. I never saw anything. So I was just saying, I doubt
that's what she's doing.
Okay, you know, I do work and I do do amazing things. Heather's been to events
of mine. I thought you were in Miami recovering.
No, and I was there working.
You thought that Lisa was recuperating in Miami from a facelift? Yeah, because
had seen her.
She said she was with Ben Affleck.
on to one person and then i saw pictures of her in miami and it was the first
photo i've ever seen lisa post bare face no makeup and she looks so beautiful
and i was like what did she get done because meredith would never face okay i
just paid you a compliment yeah i said it is the first time she's ever posted a
bare face photo on her old deck there's a lot of really good doctors in miami
He wasn't a good one. He wasn't a good one?
We're not so good. No. You know what the funny thing is? What? Instead of
saying... My friend Lisa's a baddie and she's done really cool things for 18
years. You'd rather denigrate it and say, I don't believe her. I don't think
she's there.
If I did that with every single thing you guys did, the list would go on and
and on. Are you saying that anyone here is doing cool things or that you only
have one and a half franchises? I don't. I could count your money because you
don't have that much. You said you don't understand my business and called me
Jen Shaw.
You don't understand my business. I do. I'm not Tom.
Go open a salon then and see what you do with it. No, I opened lounges.
And I'm really good at that, too. Well, that's not a hair salon.
No, but it's the same concept. I understand the service industry
Veronica from Brooklyn said, Bronwyn, why jump on the bandwagon and air out
various legal issues concerning Lisa? Why not say it to her face?
At that point, Lisa and I weren't speaking.
She had me blocked on everything.
She'd made it very clear to me the last time I saw her in New York. We were not
friends. We're never friends.
She continued to say stuff on Twitter that proved to me we would probably
be friends in the future.
So I didn't come with documents. I didn't research anything. It was in the
newspaper.
I never accused you of anything.
I said, this is what I read. This is what I saw. It's concerning. The goal
to denigrate my character, I believe.
The same way you denigrated my character the last time I saw you. No, you
denigrated your character with mine. You want to play with fire, you get played
back. So what are the facts?
The facts are that I have one pending case, which we hope to have resolved at
summary judgment.
There's one case actively being litigated, and the rest are dismissed.
I wasn't worried about it, so I don't know why everyone else was worried about
it. Because you say you're richer than all of us and you owe hundreds of
thousands of dollars. No, they were allegations, and I even said to you,
Denied? No.
I've won at summary judgment before. Yes, Bronwyn, your case was very
than mine. I wasn't in a criminal case.
I had civil litigation. Say whatever you like about me to deflect from yours.
No, I don't need to deflect. You have owed these people money, and you are
paying them back, and that is the truth. No, I do not, and that is not true. I
mean, if you're not paying them back, that's a bummer. You should.
But you do owe them the money. You have criminal allegations against you. I
don't have criminal allegations against me. And you don't understand the law,
even though you went through it with the law. Mine actually were dismissed by a
judge. Yours were dismissed because you paid those people back for your trying
to. No, that's not true. It's not true.
It's a very different situation. Ronwin is telling me what my situation is. You
just told me what mine was, Lisa. This is not my situation. Okay, well, you're
both telling each other what each other's situation is. Okay, I'm not
do that. I'm going to tell you what my situation is. We have...
All of our cases against have been dismissed, which means we basically have
them all. And there is one pending litigation that we will take. So you
owed anyone money. They made it up just to be mean. No.
I don't know why you're all worried about it other than the fact that... I'm
worried about it. I'm just saying all of our lives.
That's a blanket statement. You worry about all of our lives. The bottom line
last year you lied about me and said... It doesn't matter when I got here.
...fake to miscarriage. You asked me to go... Don't say another word about it.
No, I'm going to say more than one word because you... I have abided by the
truth that you and I said that we would leave families alone. No, you did not.
You and your husband said you wouldn't piss on my head in every private
conversation you denigrate my character. I have said nothing about your family
and I have said nothing about you and your husband. And you continue to bring
daughter up. I don't care what version of what you want to say. I'm not talking
about your daughter. It's an example of your bad behavior. You are using an
example that involves my daughter. It's an example of your bad behavior. It's
speaking about my family. I have begged you to stop. You did. You do have a
truce. It is not. You do have a truce where you're not. Then it is done. I'm
still talking. I have not mentioned your family.
No, just the other week at BravoCon, a fan sent me a video of you talking about
my husband, body shaming him, talking about how fat he is, how small his penis
is. Oh, my God. I have the video the fan sent me.
Naughty.
Oh my God. You didn't just say one thing about my husband. You've been in TikTok
comments. You've been on Twitter. You continue to this day.
That's a lie. Up until when we were in Greece, you were saying my husband was a
dirty old man, a pervert. Yeah, he is. Nobody looked up your husband's ex
No one needs to look up my husband's ex -wife either. You know, I don't care a
lot about John Barlow. I care because you talk about my husband nonstop. I
talk about your husband nonstop, but I can start.
How many times are you interested in talking about Todd? The dirty old man,
Bradley. How many fucking times do I have to tell you to stop talking about
husband? You've continued, after our truce, to speak about my husband. You're
saying it. right now. I did think you two had a truth.
We do have a truth. I have abided by it. Lisa continues to break it at every
turn. That's a beautiful speech.
It's a fucking true speech.
You continued after our truth to speak about my husband. You're saying it right
now. I did think you two had a truth.
We do have the truth. I have abided by it. Lisa continues to break it at every
turn. That's a beautiful speech.
It is. It's a fucking true speech.
But let's get to the facts.
What facts? How have I broken the truth? I'm talking.
I am too.
How have I broken the truth? What have I said about your husband or your
children? You won't let me talk.
We had a truth.
And since that truth, the only thing I said was to Brittany.
I was relating to her on something, on Bronwyn's behavior.
Just like after our truth, she was relating.
Excuse me. Hold on one second. And what about the multitude of times you've
continued to talk about my husband in print, on video, on camera, with the
behind my back? After I've seen your husband say, would it piss on my head?
No, you haven't seen that. It was in Greece that you were saying those
I said that your husband's a dirty old man. That dick sucker went viral. It's
not my fault people like to bring it up constantly. It is your fault when you
look me in the eye and say, I don't want you to speak about my husband or my
children. And I agree. And you say, great, me too. And then you continue to
parade yourself out here as a wronged victim when you are the one who is doing
this to my husband. What is wrong with sucking your husband's dick? Absolutely
nothing. My response was to the fact that she said I don't work. And I said,
well, I do work. She's like, you should get a job and pay those bills. Like,
I... So I spoke to you and you thought it was funny to involve my husband and
then continue to involve him. We are now nine months later. You are still
speaking about him, still making comments about him on TikTok. You know
so funny? You are the one who's doing it. There is nothing funny about this.
know what? Not a fucking thing. The only thing that's funny is that you think
that you and I are equal in this. I have done nothing to you in this regard.
I've stayed the fuck away from you. I told you below deck that you were dead
me and I meant it. You don't. You talk about my husband at BravoCon. Imagine
being at BravoCon when people love you and want to talk. And you want to talk
about my husband's dick. And I said, I'm sorry.
And you accepted my apology. And we held hands for a second. And I'm sure they
have footage of it somewhere. I'm genuinely sorry.
I'm very sorry.
And I mean it. I'm very sorry. Can I hug you?
I'm very, very, very sorry.
And never again.
Ever, ever, ever. Okay? Okay.
Thank you. I promise. Thank you.
Promise, promise, promise.
Okay. I accepted your apology, and then you go back and do it again and again
and again. We're not going to solve this.
We're not going to solve this. Stop.
We got a lot of comments from people about your smoky eye in the interview.
No one sues the bottom, bitch.
Yeah.
He's like, sure.
I mean, that's much lighter than everything else. Absolutely.
What happened there? I'm in the glam chair, not paying attention at all. And
love my makeup artist. She is amazing, kind, sweet, everything to me. Is she
here with you today? No. Has she worked with you again? Yes. So why was your eye
like that? I mean, I probably cried in confessional and one of my lashes came
off. There was a little bit of an issue with shadow. I mean, we went for a look
and it didn't land.
Tori from Nevada said, As a mom, what example do you think you're setting by
attacking your friend's physical appearance?
You called Meredith a trampoline with eyes and mentioned Lisa's facelift and
cankles. I don't have a facelift. I do want Angie to defend herself here.
Well, it wasn't an insult to Meredith. I mean, and it's also not an insult to
get a facelift. I mean, trampling with eyes is not amazing.
Or that you're so stretched your ears are pinned to the side of your head. Or
that Brittany looks slutty. I mean, it goes on and on and on. She said that I
was a slut, so I did respond.
Okay. And the only reason I also brought up, and I'm going to try and keep this
quick, is because you were going around to one of my friends and said, Angie
looks so good. I should get Botox and filler, too. Like, you've never done
anything. Meanwhile, you come back looking.
Different and very good. And you want to act like.
Nothing. But you can talk about everybody else doing stuff. What did you
done? You told me that you're natural and you don't do anything. I don't like
do anything. And then I just saw some little stars. I don't like to do
Yeah, you did.
One of my best friends. And you said, oh, Angie looks really good. I should
Botox and filler too. My circle is so small. My circle is so small. You touch
lot of people.
No, I don't. And you touch a lot of people. No, I actually don't. And you're
trying to insinuate that I get Botox and filler and you don't do anything. You
did tell me you don't do anything. What have you had done?
Um, you know what? I've never shamed anybody here for their looks. Just my
husband. I didn't say it was a bad facelift. I just said you got a
did go two years with no Botox at all.
Nothing. And my cheeks, I really don't love filler. I'm like...
Not a fan of it. It stresses me out a little bit. I did get a CO2 laser, like,
around Christmas.
And then I did threads. And I felt they took my eyebrows off, which was
traumatizing for me. So you've done threads.
I love threads. I think that they're amazing.
But I am so happy with what I've done. And I like myself no matter how I look.
I've never judged myself on my looks. I've never felt good or bad.
better about myself based on my looks i like who i am i like my face and i don't
want to change it i do not love the constant digs at me having glam i like
i'm not great at doing my own makeup i literally don't think i'm good at doing
makeup so i don't do it jeff from beverly hills said angie are you
with your arby's and codigo partnerships
No, not at all. I've just had some really amazing brand opportunities that
to me. It seems like a slight troll.
Well, I mean, I could see why, but if they're going to come to me based off my
line, like you do French fries, I do franchise.
I mean, it's why not? What was your reaction to her Arby's ad? I didn't even
it. I just found out about it like late last night. I found out about it late
last night. You know, people have all benefited from my wins and that's
for them.
Not really, but thank you, though. We get brand campaigns because of you. I
mean, if I were a credit card, I'd probably sue you for identity theft.
like wanting to skin me and be me.
Not really. So everything she does is on your back?
No, but when you're copying everything I do, it's like two steps behind you. Did
you want to skin me and be me when you did something with a brand that I've
partners with for 30 years and you've got your own product?
You've never. Did you want to be Angie Kay? I have no idea what you even use.
I've never heard it come out of your mouth.
Lisa, it's been. I've never heard it come out of your mouth. You didn't. I've
been working for them.
You didn't. I know that's where you got it from.
Let's hold here. We will pick up after the break.
Coming up. Listen, you don't think
I would scream from the rooftop if I landed Captain Jason?
I'd be wearing a sailor suit.
Andy, you remind me of Wall Street.
Of Wall Street? Uh -huh. You look like the guy who's been walking. Oh, really?
Thank you.
Ten seconds.
Ten seconds. Nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two,
one. Mike, cue him. Go, Andy. Ready, one. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion.
Well, since Salt Lake City premiered in 2020, it's racked up over 100 episodes
and a roster of famous fans like Rihanna, Julia Roberts and John Oliver.
it's been quoted in the halls of Congress.
So let's rifle through the receipts, proof, timeline and screenshots of the
100 episodes of America's most baby gorgeous pop culture phenomenon.
You smell like hostage.
Fuck you.
Two thumbs up is the F you. I didn't know that.
Oh, no.
Thank you. I'm disengaging.
Hi, baby gorgeous.
You're not hearing me, Mary.
Little girl.
Do you think I look in breath?
I do.
You have said.
You called me a pornography.
I never said you do porn.
What was it?
Right in there.
We're at Beauty Lab and Laser in the parking lot.
Okay. I'm shaking. I'm physically shaking.
The rumors, the nastiness.
2, 10, 3.
Deceit. Proof.
Timeline. Screenshot.
I want to go the distance on it. You look like you're trampling with eyes.
Oh my gosh.
Don't dress like I have a high body count.
And I don't wear my hair like I have a high body count.
Do you think my hair looks cheap?
Oh, my God.
I feel like you look really cute in this.
Do I have a reservation for eight Lisas?
Eight Lisas.
The true Beverly Hills, bitch.
There's going to be no fake bangs left on the Internet if we all bought that.
Oh, my God. Get back up.
Let go.
I just want you to know I love you, and I'm really, really sorry. I feel lucky
to have you all as friends.
I love you so much. Love you.
Look at you two, BFF.
Women.
Aw.
Wow, what a journey.
I mean, this show has become such a huge part of the pop culture landscape.
I mean, it's got to be wild to know that Julia Roberts has opinions about...
Your show. I wonder, what's been the most pinch -me moment?
Mary, anything? That's a pinch -me moment. Yeah. Doing Robert.
Yeah. Like, that's huge.
Did you ever think you would make it to season six, Meredith?
No.
I thought maximum would be five.
And maybe that would have been a good idea.
You know, Whitney, how do you look back on this experience?
When I started the show, I...
promised myself and i promised justin that if i was going to do this i would
real and honest and share what's going on in my life and it's been hard but
very cathartic mary when you started i feel like you were defined by your
quite unconventional backstory with robert senior and what's interesting
now is that i would say of everything it's kind of at the bottom of the
paragraph um yeah And we've seen you go from kind of feeling like you hated
everybody to kind of trying to bring people together and really wanting to be
part. What happened to you? I don't know. I felt like I wasn't a part of the
group, and they did not include me in the beginning.
Meredith did. But now I just feel like I see good in all of them, and I see...
beauty in all of them. I just want them to be able to take accountability and
grow and evolve.
And I feel like if I could say two words to help, I will.
So I think I just kind of fell in love with them. I don't know.
That's nice.
Lisa, do you consider yourself, after being on this show six years,
misunderstood by viewers?
A hundred percent.
What don't they get?
You know, delusional is a common theme that people use that don't understand
I'm not delusional. I'm like very grounded.
I'm a very hard worker, and I love my family.
Angie, you went from being featured in season two to a friend of in season
to a full -blown housewife season four.
How would you describe your time on the show?
I've learned so much about myself. I think I've grown a lot.
I've made some really strong connections and friendships, which I think is
really special in life.
I felt like an underdog when I started, so I feel like I triumphed and had to go
through a lot to get here, and it feels good.
Lisa, you've got to admit, Angie's one -liners are pretty top -notch, right? I
mean, she makes me laugh. Like, when she said, hi, body count hair, I'm like, I
could not stop laughing. When I watch that clip, I crack up.
Angie gets in a zone, and she doesn't come out of it easily.
I know. I'm working on it. I like it. You two have that in common.
Yeah, we have a lot of things in common.
Lisa, what's it been like seeing Jack and Henry grow up on the show?
You know, there's moments where I'll see, like, clips of them so little.
in first grade with his buzz cut.
I'm a worm!
And Jack just evolving from, like, learning how to drive on camera,
being in the front seat.
Driving is, like, such a big responsibility.
I have a strong pull -out game, though.
Yeah.
Remember, confident, not cocky. I love it. I love that I have it documented.
I, like, think they really are starting to understand it. Jack, for sure. Henry.
you know, is, like, really getting it. And I love it. I love watching them.
Like, cute little baby gorgeous.
Oh, my gosh. It, like, melts me every time. How is Jack adjusting to life
his mission?
He came back from Columbia a man. It's so...
Weird. It's parenting an adult.
Did he get an apartment or did he move to Miami?
No, he's living with us right now. He is. And he's going to the U. He's made
incredible, I never thought he'd stay more than a semester.
He's loving the University of Utah. He has an insane friend group.
He is just thriving. I love watching him be Jack.
How have your lives changed since season one?
Mine's unrecognizable.
I mean, I've written two books.
executive produced a docuseries. I've bought two homes, four cars, have three
girls and putting them through college. Like, and none of that would have been
possible without the show.
Bronwyn, you walked into season five wearing fashions.
What do you think of the show's style legacy?
I mean, they were doing crazy zany fashion.
Mary's always done.
Meredith, I mean, I always, people always ask me whose style I like. I
everybody has their own style and it works for them. What works for Lisa
wouldn't work for me. That doesn't mean she doesn't look great.
I don't know what's like her insides, but she looks great on the outside. You
know what I mean? But I like to think I brought my own thing.
Yeah. All right.
Tate from Salt Lake wants to know, who's changed the most in six years?
You, Mary?
I think so. Uh -huh.
I feel like I have too.
Yeah. If you see a clip of yourself from season one, how do you look back on
that one? I feel this rush of, like, affection and pride. Like, I love...
that girl so much. That was really, really hard. I knew what they were
about me. I knew what people were saying. I took it all on the chin, but I
didn't care because it was an opportunity of a lifetime.
And even though I was at my lowest physically and emotionally and
just wasn't going to let the opportunity pass me by. And I was going to make
sure that I took it and did whatever I could with it regardless of people
that I didn't deserve to be there.
Okay. Well, we're going to leave it there. Here's to 100 more episodes, by
way. How about 1 ,000 more? Yeah.
We're going to take a break. We are going to reset for Brittany to join us.
will be right back.
100 episodes. How old would we be in 1 ,000? I don't know. I didn't even know
did. I'll be dead.
Coming up. You've come to events with Daniel Radcliffe, and you don't know
the fuck I do?
I don't. Are you really that disgusting that you're going to question how I make
money?
Wide down on four.
There you go. Five,
four, three, two,
one. Mike, go Andy.
We are back with the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And ting, ting, ting, I
have an announcement.
Brittany has joined us on the reunion stage.
Hey, Brittany.
Hi. I'm so happy to be here.
I know you are. You came with what?
Oh, I came with an emotional support bear.
Okay. Does it speak?
It does.
It's a message.
I really do love you, Brittany, and I always will, no matter what happens.
See, that's sweet. Especially no matter what happens on the show. He'll love you
no matter what happens on the show.
I guess so. I don't know.
Let's just skip that second part, but that's okay. But he does love me. Okay,
good. Let's move on.
And this season, we had an Avengers -style merging of Bravo multiverses with
historic crossover between the Salt Lake City Wives and Below Deck Down Under,
complete with waterbending superpowers, mythical creatures flying through the
air, and Angie Kay doing all her own stunts. Let's take a look at the Real
Housewives of Below Deck Down Under.
Oh, my God. Hi.
Hi. We're so excited.
Here we go, baby.
Look where we are, you guys. Everyone soak it in.
This is luxurious.
Oh, my God. I'm like a fucking bronco.
Jason and I are friends. We have a history.
He's not interested in me. We've fucked around before. It's like there's nothing
there. I did like your muscles, I have to say. Thank you very much. I love your
accent. You like the British accent, don't you? Yes.
I am in a smorgasbord of heaven right now.
You made it! Lisa, you're best!
You know, Bronwyn and I are fine. And I don't like to throw around the word
karma. I think it's grossly overused. But why did you come from me so hard
you've got such sticky skeletons in your closet?
Somebody in this group is definitely planting stories about me in the press.
There's some, like, nasty things that have come out in the press after I've
out with a group of friends.
Maybe somebody in this group is doing it. Nobody would do that here.
Nobody.
Pipe down, Lisa. You're revealing yourself.
Every time Lisa's mad at someone, information leaks about them.
Angie, me, Bronwyn, Mary, Meredith. Okay, I agree.
Lisa is smarter and darker than any of us imagine.
I think that you're the source of all the dirt.
I am the motherfucking Don of Salt Lake City, I guess, because this is fucking
weird. I am. You're lucky I fucking talked to any of you. Did you hear what
said? I do. No, maybe.
I'm leaving. I will never be accused of something I did not do. I am, like, so
sad. No, Lisa, I'm not. Get the fuck away from me right now. I'm not going to
leave. No. Did you say you want to walk down stairs and fucking leave me?
Fucking leave me. It sounds like I've never done anything to this.
You did this to me?
So, first of all, what was it like being on another show's turf?
Andy, we don't notice cameras anymore. We don't notice production crews. Like,
we were just on a trip. Like, I didn't even realize that they were shooting
their own show. Are you worried about what the reverse?
point of view will reveal.
No, I'm excited.
We are fun guests, and we love the food and the activities and the boat.
I think maybe Heather and Whitney might have something to worry about,
especially the cucumber.
The cucumber with the steak?
I put it next to their bed. I don't know if it's a midnight snack or... So, I am
curious before we get into it. Who packed the cucumber on the boat?
I was right.
I was right.
It was you. Do you want to hear the backstory?
Sure. So, there's a little market right before we boarded the boat. And Heather
and I went in to get snacks for our room.
I just saw it and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to play a prank on
So I grabbed the cucumber and my intention was to put it in her bag and
them to unpack her bag. But we never had time to do it. So I had to just own it.
It backfired on you.
It backfired on me. I mean, why would you put a cucumber?
Because it would be funny. It's a funny prank to do to your best friend, like a
cucumber. We were originally going to do it to Lisa.
Remember, we were going to just put something like handcuffs or something
They were like short and fat. It was like, they were fascinating.
We had a good time in that room. It was crazy.
Brittany, you definitely had your fun flirting with the deckhands. Were you
doing that to make Jared jealous?
This is so sad but true. I didn't actually know I was flirting until I
it. I'm like, oh, my God.
But can I just say that Heather was absolutely the biggest flirt. You were
bigger a flirt than me.
I just agree with that. That's not true.
No, you were, like, riding on the back and catching Jason. That's what you do
for the water ski. That's essential.
That's not true. That's just technique.
So, Heather, what is the...
Final word on you and Captain Jason. How's it going? Apparently, the world
large...
bandwidth for what fucked around means. Like, we hung out every day, went to
clubs, danced. Like, if there was a connection, we would have known. We have
fucked around. Yeah, people don't understand her. Not sexually. Oh.
Yeah, it's like we've hung out, and there's nothing there. We are friends.
Fucking around and hanging out doesn't sound like the same thing to me. I know,
because, listen, I was just, for Brittany, I just wanted to give her the
-ahead. We hung out, and Brittany, we're friends.
No. And we were clear about that.
Well, I don't know about that. That's interesting.
Very clear to me.
Listen, you guys, you don't think I would scream from the rooftop if I
Captain Jason? Right. I would be using jib -jab sail terms, nautical. I'd be
wearing a sailor suit.
All right.
Paulette from Mandeville said, Bronwyn, you said you arrived late to the trip
because you wanted to make sure your family was okay. But why were the
surprising to Todd if he ran a background check on you when you first
Because not everything that's said about me online is true. So that does
surprise Todd, knowing what he actually knows about what happened. And I think
he was really surprised that it was spun into this whole, Brown is a career
criminal or whatever it was being made into.
I mean, it's not a surprise that Todd is always surprised by what happens on
this show. He's always like, why are you guys doing this? Why are you guys
talking to each other? Why are you guys still hanging out? He never really
understands what's happening here, ever.
All right. The only facts in on Twitter said Bronwyn, just because the case is
sealed doesn't mean a person can't talk about it. You just don't want to. And we
know that you can be liberal with the truth. What do you say to that?
A case being sealed does not mean that I'm barred from talking about it if I
the one who asked for it to be sealed.
I was not the one who asked for it to be sealed.
And I've learned with my husband and my daughter that I have to be very careful
how I bring other people's business into this group. So I will not talk about
their sealed portion of the case. Can you tell us what the nature of the
case is?
Yeah, it was something that happened at my workplace.
The case was fully dismissed against the person it was about. It was years ago.
I just got my citizenship this year. They're not giving those out to people
have any kind of felonious past in any kind of a way. Congratulations on your
citizenship, by the way.
So according to Reddit thread, the source of, you know, a lot of so much
a lot.
Bronwyn, it's being alleged that in mid 2018, you were let go for making
fraudulent purchases on corporate cards totaling $100 ,000. Charges were filed.
Todd got involved. It was dismissed.
What do you say to that?
That is not what the case is about. That's what people are alleging.
Outside of the sealed case and the eviction, were there other cases filed
against you? Yeah, in college I had disputes with a roommate. I'd been
I mean, those things are 20 -plus years ago, and those were expunged once I
admitted to whatever wrongdoing I'd done at the time and dealt with it.
Later went back to that. I'm not embarrassed about that. I'm happy to
because it's just solely my decisions. I was an idiot and I did dumb stuff in
college. And I've more than tried to make up for that since. But this, like I
said, doesn't just involve me. And I'm trying to be respectful of that.
Meredith, have you heard about other lawsuits or charges filed against
I really haven't tracked.
All of this, I heard there were multiple, but I didn't pay that much
Okay. It seemed like the two of you were whispering during this whole thing, and
I'm just wondering if there's something else you want to add. No, it wasn't
about the problem, actually.
Oh, no. Okay. No, it was about something that was just to be noted in case we
need to go back there at some point in time. So some sort of tag team thing,
would you say? No, not at all. Not at all. We don't need to tag team. Oh,
I mean, she said something that we might need to go back to, so it seemed like a
little bit of a tag team. Yeah, well, we might.
We don't work that way. No, you said I was tag -teaming, so I just want to say
it sounds like what's good for the goose might be good for the game. I mean, it
seems like you recruited a whole team. So I'm not supposed to speak to my
friends, I guess. Okay.
Well, right, we know. I'm not supposed to speak or feel. We know that already.
Okay, we're going to leave it there, and we're going to be right back.
Don't use your voice.
Don't worry.
She won't.
Andy, I just saw that Ben lost his tooth.
He lost his first tooth yesterday.
And you did tooth fairy this morning? I did. I'm like, yesterday he was walking
into school, showing his tooth to his friend. I cried in front of him, just
watching. I mean, it's like... It's so sweet, and now he has like the tooth
loose. Five, four, three... Welcome back. I am Andy Cohen, here with
the glorious Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Okay, all right.
Lisa, for once and for all, did you leak the information about Bronwyn's past to
the press? No.
It's ridiculous.
Do you believe that she leaked it?
I don't think that she leaked it. Leak's a specific word, but I think that she
does make sure that stories get traction about us when we fight with her. No,
that's a lie.
There's just some dumb stuff that comes up. Like Twitter, I can read.
Oh. I was an early reader. I started reading at three and a half years old.
Really? So I can read on Twitter. Oh, okay.
The thing that was troubling for me is it was on Twitter before we went on the
trip, and it wasn't really everywhere. I know we all got tagged in it, but while
we were on the boat, somebody...
from the boat, spoke to a media outlet and said Bronwyn was late because of
these Twitter allegations.
And that would have been somebody on the boat who knew that I was late because
of that. And that's what really pushed the story huge was that I came
late to the cast trip because of all of this. And who did that from the boat?
Sorry to break it to you. No one was thinking about you or what was going on
with you.
I was having the time of my life. OK. The only person I argued with on the
was really you and Brittany, and I don't think it was you.
You think I'm doing all this crazy stuff while running a lounge. It's not crazy.
It is crazy.
It's a click of a button. I don't have an arsenal on anyone. I don't really
a fuck. I am completely. Why do you have six attorneys? Why do you have
cybersecurity? Why do you go this distance? Oh, my gosh. Do you know how
businesses we own? Do you understand our business? I'm federally regulated.
Don't ask me if I don't understand your business at all. What is Lux Marketing
and how do you make money? I don't understand it. Oh, my gosh. You are an
planner. Wow.
I do experiential activations.
You don't have to freak out.
You can ask me anything you want about beauty labs and laser. I'll tell you the
meds by industry.
I don't understand what Lux Marketing does, how you're a millionaire.
I don't get it. Okay, let me break it down for you. Are you ready to listen?
Are you ready to listen?
Yeah. Lux Marketing does multiple things. We incubate brands.
I own companies. So I created a company with the Bella Twins called N &B. We
sold it almost three years ago. It had an amazing exit. And I went to multiple
events for that. Amazing exit.
I went to an event for that, too, but I heard you're not friends with them
anymore. Are you going to listen?
Are you going to listen?
I went to that event. Why are you freaking out at me? I'm just asking.
you've known me.
You've come to events with Daniel Radcliffe, the Bella Twins launch, and
don't know what the fuck I do? I don't.
I know that you sell tequila.
Are you really that disgusting that you're going to question how I make
asked when we invited you to an event.
I don't think I'm disgusting. Do you know what less marketing does? I don't.
is a decision and a choice.
We're disgusting.
We're disgusting to ask our friend what she does.
She wants us to champion her business, but we can't even know about it. I don't
owe you shit.
Okay. I don't owe you shit.
I don't owe you shit. Andy, was that kind and friendly or an accusation? What
you do?
What are you? What do you do? It was not a question. It was an attack.
It was an attack. I do big things with big deal people.
And guess what? I'm a big fucking deal.
What do you do?
Tuck said you just spend his money.
He sat there in Palm Springs and said she's spending my money on a play.
Heather, we saw a lot of posts on social media saying that you were gaslighting
Lisa by calling her your friend one minute and then accusing her of being
source and saying she should own it. She's my friend and she was the source.
I'm not the source. What do you attribute the shift in your point of
her? I'm not friends with people that are perfect. I'm not friends with people
that are actually even perfect.
Moral representations of what I aspire to. I'm friends with people who I'm
friends with. And she's my friend.
She has been my friend. We have history. I don't have a lot of... She's
absolutely still my friend. She is not...
A good friend, but she's an important friend. I am a great friend.
I'm actually a great friend. She's an important friend to me. I'm a very
important friend to you. I am a great friend. So two things can be true.
I tell your friends when they're wrong. Two things can be true. I'm over these
false accusations, labels.
I'm not the source. Angie,
you've known Lisa for a long time. What do you think?
Well, see, I just read a little.
So Meredith gave me this gorgeous scroll for my anniversary. Oh my God, that's
very pretty. Isn't that pretty? Wow, Meredith. And it came with a metal
But anyway, this is the presentation. But you asked, I have known Lisa, and I
thought she was my friend. And then I found out she was trolling me.
And she says she's not the source.
But if you open that, you can just pass it down.
And you open your phone, the person calling me has the same phone number
Lisa has.
Do you want to talk about pictures you have on your phone?
Next week, the reunion continues.
Lisa, were you surprised Mary took your side?
Probably doesn't even know what you're talking about.
She doesn't look like she does.
What's really going on in your marriage?
Can I have a minute?
She screeched at me for two months. Fuck you for saying that. Our friendship is
over from this moment on. I don't understand this. It's not okay.
Fuck this.
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