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Previously on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Here's to our new constitution.

No more farts.

Lisa grandizes everything. She bribes about everything. She always pulls the

level, you know.

Everybody knows I do big things. I don't care.

One thing you did say, she basically said it's you or Brittany. Thank you.

thank you. Yeah.

Meredith, you said if you're friends with her, we're done. I never turned to

and said we're not friends. Yes, you did. You said. No, I didn't. Yes, you

Rita, do you want some wine? I'm good, sweetheart.

No, thank you. Okay.

The girls should be here any second.

There we go.

Your students are arriving.

Hey!

Our students are here.

Oh, my gosh. All the Greek treats. How are you?

It's so good to see you.

Hello. Mary, look how beautiful you look.

Have you been to Greece before?

Never been to Greece.

No? No.

You'll like it. Am I going to like it? You will.

I can't believe I'm going.

Since I'm applying to get my Greek citizenship, I really want to take the

to see the most beautiful country with the most beautiful people.

How's this amazing woman doing? Hi, sweet girl. And join me in being Greek

the week.

I have an epic trip planned. We're going to Greece!

This is amazing!

So... I brought the Greekest Greeks you'll know in Salt Lake City to come

give us the basic Greek words that you need to know.

Yasu means hi.

Yasu. Yasu? How do I say thank you?

Efakisto. Efakisto.

Efakisto. Efakisto.

Efakisto.

That's a big one, huh?

Oh, I know. How do you say snooze set?

No. Because right now you're snooze.

Snooze.

I probably mean like a cute white tank, potentially.

And of course, like an easy breezy white blazer.

That's exciting.

Gosh, I don't know the word boring.

Yes, it doesn't exist anymore.

No Greeks are boring, so we don't know the word.

We're not boring, so they don't have a word for it. How do you say...

You have no manners.

Is this all you're taking?

No, I have like so much stuff in the bedroom, like 60 Chanel bags. And I have

like a whole box of Versace stuff I have to go through.

I know it's Italian, but it feels Greek.

I love all my stuff. I think I got really cute stuff.

How do you say shut up?

Disgusting. How do you say like piss off?

You can say fia podomens, get out of here.

I'm worried this is going to be a feisty trip again.

Could be. But you know what? If they fight on a flight again, all their good

luck would be with a blossom. This time someone's getting zip -tied to their

chair. What's the Greek police situation?

I would bet it's not good.

Okay, but Angie speaks Greek. She'll be able to get us out of trouble. You don't

know what she's going to say to him when she's speaking Greek. She might say,

yeah, lock the bitch up.

Are you going over there to be nice and meet people, or are you going to be over

there to be mad?

Well, both. A little of both, hopefully.

Oh, thank you.

Baklava!

Baklava!

Well, hello, Opa!

Okay, follow the flag, everyone.

All right.

Never been to Greece.

Always wanted to go. Greece, here we come!

I've seen Clash of the Titans.

All the Greek gods seem to be men I'd take home. So if Harry Hamlin is on the

Isle of Santorini, I will not turn him down.

I have been to Greece before.

It's so serene. Everything is just like, just right.

It's almost like it's not real.

Being friends with Angie, it's like on a daily trip to Greece.

And I'm hoping that after this trip, I never have to hear about Greek, Greece.

anything ever again.

I'm like Greeked out.

Oh, wow.

Thank you. It's great.

All right, Nick.

Be lucky.

This is going to be the best trip we've ever had. Is Santorini ready for us?

Well, look at the Mediterranean.

Like, I love it. There we go. How big is Santorini?

76. Oh, 76.

Wow. I didn't know it was that big. Yeah, so it's pretty big. It's more like

Barbados or Canaan, right?

No, I think Santorini is bigger than Barbados. It is bigger than Barbados? I

think so. I don't understand the size of islands or penises.

I knew that was coming.

Oh, Nico, just plug your ears.

I want to smoke a Greek cigarette. We're getting tattoos, and we're coming home

with Greek men's numbers in our phones. That's our three goals.

Nico, do you have any single friends?

She's like, I'm sure the conversation I've heard today, not so much.

Even though it's frustrating that Bronwyn betrayed my trust, I think the

moving forward in friendship is not going backwards.

But I've also learned that her ability to keep secrets.

Not very high.

So is everyone hungry?

Yes. You guys are going to love this restaurant.

Oh, we're here, you guys.

Welcome to the restaurant.

Hi. Thank you.

Thank you. Look how beautiful it is. Oh, my gosh. Can you just smell the ocean

air? Look how gorgeous.

I am George.

Hi, George. I'm Lisa. Hello, Lisa. Andy, your friend George is here. How are

you?

Hello. Hello, ladies.

Welcome to Santorini. Welcome to Angioni's. I know you're tired. We have

prepared a very nice dinner for you and a nice local sangria with pisangio. So

let's get started.

We can start relaxing you.

Start relaxing you. Aren't the Greeks the best?

Oh, this is delicious.

Look how beautiful.

Oh, it's so pretty. Oh, my gosh.

Angie!

This is gorgeous.

This is amazing.

Oh, thank you so much.

Good evening. Welcome in Beef Bar. So glad to have you here.

So up on the table, you will find a salad. We have the truffle pizza, which

amazing. Quesadillas with baked white beef inside.

So please enjoy.

Enjoy your dinner. Gracias. Gracias.

Gracias. Gracias.

Gracias. Guys, we have to do tears. We're in Greece together. For me, this

like a dream come true. It's surreal that my parents were born here.

And it's special to have you all here. This will just deepen our bond as

friends. And I consider you all my friends.

Thank you so much, Angie. Thank you, guys. And yama.

Yama. Yama. We're going to have an amazing trip.

Yama. Yama.

Dig in.

This salad looks great.

What are those little tacos?

Like, I know they look good.

That just slipped right out. Oh, my gosh.

So tomorrow, I guess we're just taking it easy.

Everyone's exhausted, huh?

We've literally been traveling for two days. Thank God I got the bags under my

eyes fixed.

Wait, what did you do under your eyes? I just got the fat pads removed.

Fat pads removed?

So they take little chopsticks under there and then they break the fat up and

smooth it out.

Andy doing this little diorama has changed the way I look at chopsticks.

now on, every time I eat lo mein, I'm just going to be...

Thinking about the ocular fat pads and how badly mine are noticeable because

not willing to have this surgery.

I like Botox. I'm not a huge filler fan.

I think everyone should get all the filler they want. I think everyone

get lots of filler every day, every minute. You look great.

What time is it, Rich?

It's about that time.

Heather, let's see your watch.

Oh, my gosh.

It's pretty.

Lisa, I have something to tell you that you're not going to like.

I bought a Cartier.

I'm happy for you.

During our layover, Lisa and Angie got into it about Angie's Cartier watch.

And Lisa accused Angie of copying her.

Lisa thinks it's only special if Lisa wears it. Can I get some more water,

please? They were fighting so much about this Cartier watch, and it seemed like

such a big deal that when I went downstairs and saw the duty -free shop,

like, how much is a Cartier watch? Because I didn't know.

I went and bought a Cartier. Good.

And so did Whitney.

You guys bought one?

How much was it?

It was like six grand.

I get a call from Heather, and she's laughing, and she's like, I'm buying a

matching Cartier.

Because it was duty -free, I could get a second Cartier watch for practically

the same price as if I was buying them from the Cartier store.

What time is it? What time is it? No, I love it. Cartier is because we copy

whatever Lisa does. That's Cartier school.

You two look expensive.

BOGO at Cartier?

I'm in.

Congratulations. She's acting like this is no big deal. But I know that Lisa's

mildly irritated by it.

They were fighting about the Cartier watch. She was like, you copied me. I

didn't copy you. She was on her phone looking for photos.

And so I thought, I will copy her right now.

And it's different from your Cartier. It is different.

I would never argue about Cartier watches.

That's a grandma watch.

I mean, none of us are spring chicken.

I get it, but don't have an argument about it and tell the whole world.

I want to say it's not a competition.

Everyone has beautiful things. Everybody works hard, and we're all happy for you

that you got a Cartier, and you should be happy for everybody else. And no

copying.

But you do say that about people that you think I got a Cartier because you

wearing one. You said, yeah, I did think you copied me. Yeah, when I wore

Schiaparelli, then you started wearing Schiaparelli. I had a Cartier, what,

10 years ago. And now suddenly you have one and I've copied you. I've had mine

for like three or four. Find a photo of you wearing it. Will you find a photo of

you wearing it? I will. I have one on my Facebook.

That's how old it is. It's on Facebook.

But this is kind of silly, don't you think? You know what's silly is your

snobbiness. Like, oh, you copied my watch. I'm not snobby. You are the only

that can afford certain things. No, I don't think that. You think that. I've

never said that. Have I said that? I've never said that. You just said it. Why

do you think I would copy your watch?

I know. I think people see things and copy it. I've had this watch before my

daughter was born. I mean, people own nice things. You're not the only one.

is the kind of petty I live for.

Somebody did buy this watch first.

I'd like to see who.

I had mine first, and I had my Rolex first. I never saw it. And I had my

first. I had my Porsche forever.

I've had five of them.

I'm on four.

Well, I'm one up on you there.

It's not a competition. And mine's a 2025.

And I got the first color of this color in this date.

Angie is such a jealous, competitive person.

It's unhealthy.

Like, she's going to take years off her life if she keeps this going.

First, it's with watches and cars and...

I don't even know what you drove, but you know what I was driving when you

watching me on TV.

I don't care about things. You and I are so different. I feel like you do care

about things. I don't care about things. I just want to have fun.

And it just reminds me that you and I are so different. You are so worried

what things look like on the outside. I'm not worried about that. That's you

putting that on me. I have hobbies just like you. And one of my hobbies is

sitting in the bathtub and looking for stuff and, like, finding cool, unique

pieces for trips. Now, Lisa, what does this mean? You know that the bathtub is

Meredith's thing. I mean, are you looking to start an argument?

You're treading on.

On the bathroom floor, strolling. Well, who's copying who?

Did everyone love their food? It's so good.

Dinner was delicious.

It's been a great first night. Yeah, great.

It's been a great, great, so good.

I'm going to boss up my way.

Cheers to stuff, guys.

I get my makeup done every day at home. Yeah?

Every day, yeah.

On your own?

No, I have a girl that comes over. Oh.

Do you guys believe you woke up in Greece this morning? I can't believe it.

want to see it, actually. Come see it.

Oh, fuck.

Calimera.

Calimera. So I understand there were a few complaints on the last trip that I

planned.

Oh, my God. We're at a... I can't say it.

What's going on? I don't like it. We've now leveled up, and we are staying in

this gorgeous villa at the Andronis Arcadia.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. This is nice. So pretty.

Did you sleep in? Yeah. Look how beautiful the breakfast is. There will

nothing to complain about here.

Let's take a little plate, and let's make a little plate. Do you know the

and grease? Look at the honey and grease. Oh, my gosh.

This is class A.

Beautiful. It is. Oh, there she is.

There I am.

Oh, don't come over here. I might be braggy. Oh, she bragged. Did she brag?

She's from Athens. I love her. So beautiful.

Thank you. You did your makeup good.

Lisa, I haven't done my makeup. It's not an option to go on a trip without glam.

I have glam in Monaco. I have glam in Saint -Tropez. I have glam everywhere I

go.

Like, why waste a day looking ugly?

Oh my gosh, I love those slides.

I'm going to buy them.

What slide?

Lisa's Prada slides.

Whose what?

We love your Prada slides. Where'd you get those?

At Prada. Are you going to get a pair? Are you going to copy me? Yes, she's

going to get a pair.

She's already working on it.

Brittany may have forgiven Meredith, but I haven't. I feel hurt and disappointed

because when we were walking off the plane, Meredith made it very clear that

I was going to continue to be friends with Brittany, then she and I were done.

And she won't even admit it.

I mean, I'm not going to forget about her calling me a liar.

I don't know. What are we doing today? We're going to the beach. Let's go get

our swimsuits on, cover up, wear comfortable shoes.

Are we walking there or golf carting? No, we have a driver.

Be ready in an hour.

Okay. Welcome to the villa. This is where it is all happening.

Oh my God, not another accident on the trip.

Are you ready for the beach?

On our way.

Okay.

My shoes are a little slippery.

Nico! Hey,

look at this view.

Look at the rocks there. I know, you're so close to it.

I've been trying to talk to Heather. I tried to talk to her before the trip to

just find some resolve because there was definitely a misunderstanding about me

calling her a liar.

You lied, you lied, and all said horrible things about me that didn't

Do you believe I lied?

That doesn't take much to give someone the courtesy of a conversation.

To not do that is frustrating.

Oh, ladies, look to the right.

Wow,

that's gorgeous.

Look how beautiful this beach is.

Why is it black?

Because it's from volcanic rock.

Look how nice this is, you guys.

Ooh, they have our drinks ready.

Yes, yes, yes.

We prepared for you a beautiful sandwich. Thank you.

Oh, my gosh. This is beautiful.

It's so pretty.

It's going to be cold. I can feel it already. Yeah, I know. Oh, I'm not going

be cold. No, that's not for me.

It is beautiful.

I might need to put my bucket hat on.

Look at Angie's hat.

How are my guests in Greece doing?

Look at you.

Angie, that green hat, I'm not going to lie, threw the whole outfit off. I know.

I better take it off. No, leave it on. Well, I just wanted to have a moment,

I'm good now.

Let me see your face shape.

Take your hat off.

So you have a bucket face shape.

Heather,

you have one, too.

But they're brainiacs. Am I right?

It's not a better face, but step up.

Bucket face shape people are really smart.

They're really intelligent because they take a lot of information in.

There's oblong face.

There's pie face. There's square -shaped face.

Those are the Dean bats. Like, if you have a square face, just know you're a

Dean bat.

I've never been complimented with a bucket -shaped face.

Let's go eat!

Oh, here we are.

Sit anywhere.

Cocktail refills are coming.

It's the vibe.

I ordered all my favorites for the table already. The food has been so

delicious. That bread is to die for.

Hey, auntie, how many glitzos can you fit in your mouth?

Well, it really depends on the amount of glitzos.

Speaking of glitzos, what do you ladies think about the men in Greek?

Hot. Are you seeing any that you're interested in is the question. Yeah, the

on the flamingo was pretty good.

Ronwin, are you going to get a number two while you're here?

You have kind of thrown out looking into an open marriage. You did not say I was

looking into it.

You did.

Not at all.

You said Todd and I have to talk about an open marriage.

No.

Todd and I are not in an open marriage. He's happy, and that's fine.

I feel like you're very matter -of -fact about it. I'm very matter -of -fact

about it. But I mean, are you happy?

I'm super happy.

Are you happy? I am. I actually super adore Todd and we're happy and there's

like no drama at my house.

Last time I heard about Todd, he was looking at lingerie pictures on his iPad

and leaping at a hotel.

I was exhausted.

He gaslit her. I was done and I was like, you gots to go. So now they're

monogamous and Bronwyn would never dare clutch my pearls.

Think of hooking up with a Greek man.

I can't keep it straight.

Let's be fair.

She said, Bronwyn, I noticed you're not wearing your wedding ring. Is there

something you want to announce? I'm also not wearing it today. I don't wear it a

lot of times.

I wear a different jewelry all the time. So that was all a ruse?

No. You might have added two plus two and gotten five there. Yeah. Yeah.

At this point, it's not so much about the details or the story.

It's what does Bronwyn want us to think?

She put all this out there about her relationship with Todd, and now she's

backpedaling. So I'm just kind of like, what actually happened, and what's real?

This is a thing, Rowan. Like, you can't pretend like it didn't happen.

When you say stuff and then you put it out there, you confide or you tell us

something, it does come across as there's trouble.

But then when you come back and bring it back up, you can't pretend like you

don't know what we're talking about or you don't know what Heather's saying.

I know what Heather's saying, but I didn't say to Heather that Todd moved

So do you want time or are you done?

So I haven't spoken to him for a few days. He was texting me and wanting to

talk, and I said I wanted time, so I stayed with that.

I didn't say we separated.

You said it to all of us. I asked him to leave.

You said it to the whole group. Am I reading it wrong?

This is so weird that I came to you guys really honestly. I don't know how to

explain anything that happens in my house.

Listen, I'm on your side.

This is crazy.

Grandma, I was not there, so I didn't.

I don't hear any of this, but I've stood in your shoes.

So I support the position you're in, but from my past experience,

this is probably not the end of it with this group.

I'm just telling you that was my experience.

There was no judgment on my end. I mean, you were open about it. And you can

judge me. That's fine, too.

What I want to know is if Lisa Barlow is going to hook up with a Greek guy.

Yeah. John is Russian German Jew.

And I'll stick with that.

It was the best ride of my life.

Where'd you learn to drive?

All right.

We have to be ready by 6 .45.

We're going to dinner. And good shoes for walking, shopping.

Okay. So walking, shopping on cobblestones. Well, yeah. Something

there's no nap. What's the plan? Hi. I was just going to come tell you. We're

going shopping and eat out. Right now. And then to dinner. You have about an

hour. Okay.

All right.

So you better get ready.

Okay. Go wash your hair.

Are you going to shower?

Yeah. But first, let's go get water.

I don't think I have time to get water and shower.

I don't know what I'm wearing tonight.

Left and right from people.

Woo, I almost fell down the whole stairs.

Woo, that was scary.

Carry out the room.

Mary. Yes. It's me.

Come in.

Come in. Hi.

Close the door for this condo.

Uh -oh. What's up?

I don't know what's going on with Meredith.

For someone that I feel like I have such a good relationship with, it blows my

mind that she can, like, make little cutting comments, call me a liar, never

really, like, Truly apologize and make it right, and we just move on like

nothing ever happened.

Meredith has pulled me aside. She wants to talk one -on -one, but I feel like

I'm not interested in a one -on -one private conversation that she can twist

turn and make it into something else.

No, thank you.

But she doesn't realize that by not engaging, she's dismissing my

Say it.

Say that to her face.

I think we need to be more direct.

And tell her how you're feeling.

Because she listens to you.

I don't know what to say to her because I've been so direct. And she takes it as

a personal attack.

She leaves it there and we never bring it up again.

I was raised to tell people how I feel and be honest.

But I don't think that these women are capable of being able to just say how

they truly, honestly feel.

Just because they worry about things that don't matter.

Like other people feeling. No kidding.

I can't believe I said that. Oh my God. It just jumped out of my mouth.

Anyway, hopefully dinner will be a wonderful event.

Can't wait.

Are you doing a photo shoot?

I did a photo shoot, and then I FaceTimed Todd. I just look so good. You

him to see all your glam and all your glory?

Hi, lady.

Oh, hi.

Are we both orange? Oh, my gosh, two Clementines.

Oh, look at that outfit.

I love this whole vibe. That's pretty.

Thank you.

What in the world? Is she still in glam? Are you kidding me? Who is that?

Oh, she's waving like it's all just fine. Bye.

Have fun. What do you mean? We're leaving.

It's so funny. Here, I'm going to take a picture of you.

I'll meet them later.

Love ya. We're going to miss the sunset, so we're just leaving here. Really?

Yeah. Okay.

We are on the other side of the world, and you've got people here to powder

nose. I like the lash you've been using. It's so good.

It's a reflection of what Lisa feels like is important in life. Not what's

inside, but what people see on the outside.

I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

Where is Lisa?

She's getting her makeup done.

Oh, okay.

Brittany, I love your fit.

It's so lovely. Should we head tight? Oh, thank you. Should I put my thumb

Oh, wait, I think it might be offensive.

Oh.

Hi. I love this idea.

Oh, my gosh. There's a step here.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, what in the hell?

Oh, no.

Help me. Oh, my god.

I'm not kidding. Run.

Run. We need help.

Just like a real princess.

Coming up. You messed up, but we're all paying the price for it.

I don't think you have a problem. I think you're the problem right now.

Do you like that one? Yeah.

Okay.

It's really good on you.

Thanks.

Look at this, you guys.

This is so sweet.

Okay, you guys, who wants to go shopping for clothes?

Oh, look at this cute little place.

Love it. Let's buy some moon. Ooh, it's warm in here.

This is the one thing I don't think will work on you. It feels a little mom

-ish. You're a mother of three.

You are, but you want to be a mom. Yeah, but, like, I don't want to be wearing

shapeless animal prints just quite yet. No, you're not shapeless. That's what we

were. I wonder what Lisa's doing right now. She's probably still in glam.

How long does it take to do glam?

Well... I mean, good question. I didn't mind in four minutes with Heather's

makeup. Did she text you? No, not a word.

I mean, I would hate to be crippled with that type of insecurity about my

physical appearance so much so that I would arrive alone.

But clearly, confidence and insecurity are not a problem for Lisa Barlow.

You're going to be the most underdressed.

Okay. Are you ready to see what's coming around the corner? Oh, my God. Look

straight ahead.

Look at this, you guys. Just soak it up. Wow.

Isn't it beautiful?

Wait, I'm crying. Why am I crying? Can you believe it?

I'm chills because I'm seeing it with you guys. Why am I crying? And I know

it's, like, really amazing.

Nice breath making.

It's so pretty. Are you emotional seeing it?

Oh,

my gosh. It's just so beautiful, you know?

I get like that when I come to Greece, too. You know what I mean? It's just so

beautiful. I never thought I would see this. I love that you appreciate it so

much.

Heather's the friend that you want to take on a trip because she values the

moment. She feels it so deeply.

She is so grateful.

And she just takes it in.

And that's what I wanted for everyone. That's what I wanted for Lisa.

Hi.

Oh, this is cute. Those are cool.

What do you think? Should I get these?

I like the gold for sure.

Oh, I like the white too. Yeah, I would get both.

You'll wear them. You'll wear them all the time. They're easy breezy. Yeah. May

I buy these, please?

Yes.

Meredith. How are you doing?

I'm doing great. Because I feel like you and Heather hit a little rough spot.

I don't know. I mean, I have to believe everything's fine. Because I called her

after last week, and she didn't call me back. So if she wanted to talk, I would

think she would call me back. And I said something to her also today, but she

hasn't seemed to want to do that. So it's okay. Like, if she doesn't want to

address it, we can just move on. That's fine.

Yeah, but I think you were both hurt with each other, and you're not getting

past it.

Both of you need to open up, be vulnerable, and talk to each other.

there's something there.

Should we try this little art gallery and see if we can find your bowl?

Okay. Edible.

I love it in here. I just love the smell in here. It smells good. I know.

Hi, friends.

Oh, my gosh. Hi, guys.

How did you know we were in here?

I was walking all over Santorini. I got my 10 ,000 steps in. Look at this view.

Wait, did you see the sunset?

I saw the sunset.

I had been walking since before the sunset.

Oh, nice.

It's so pretty.

It's a photo op for sure. I can't figure Lisa out. Like, what really matters to

you? The glam and the material things or your friendships?

Okay, do you guys want to go to dinner? I'm starving. Are you guys hungry? Are

we ready? Are you ready? Let's get walking. Okay.

I love that I got to explore parts of Santorini by myself. I found some killer

Birkenstocks. There wasn't any negativity.

I'm like, I love a little me time.

I use this as my glam info.

Is this your wallpaper?

Yeah, I make it my wallpaper so we can keep seeing it.

Meanwhile, did you see the beautiful views?

Yes. I mean, the fact that she would be two hours, what, three hours late, and

then being in sunglasses, that's just odd.

Oh, my God. Angie wants to make sure we stay skinny.

Oh, my God.

Look how beautiful.

This is so pretty.

Look at the view, though.

Open it. Can I get Heather a little evil eye as a peace offering?

Good idea. I'll be at my peace offering. Can I take this as well, please? Do you

have a box? Oh, Meredith.

We'll be right back, everyone.

Should I wait until everyone's here, or can I open now? Open it. Oh, whoa, what

is it?

It's beautiful.

Is that an H?

It's a peace offering.

I didn't even know we asked you. It's not going to work.

Wonderful.

Wonderful gesture.

It's cute, right? I feel like she's treating me like a woman who's been

on. Just give me a few gifts without being specific about what it's about,

we're going to go back to normal.

Look at them. Every minute we waited.

Thank you. Thank you.

There you go. Oh, my gosh. You guys,

look how sweet. They brought us blankies. Oh, thank you. Oh, wonderful.

Oh, thank you. Oh, look at Lisa just getting all the love here in Greece. Oh,

yes. The Greeks just taking such good care of her. They feel like I fit in.

There's so much more to see.

Can you be on time tomorrow?

I can't be on time tomorrow.

I didn't know that there were mosquitoes in Greece, and there's a big one across

from me. I just want to smack it.

Oh my gosh, you guys, the food has been so delicious.

I just want to remember the food.

Not the bread.

I'll forego the bread.

Meredith and Heather Gay, are you guys okay?

You two probably should talk.

Well, when I opened my necklace and put it on, which I love, Bronwyn kept saying

it's a peace offering from Meredith.

You seem very, I don't want to use the wrong words, but she bought you

something. And I said, well, I'll buy you a gift as a peace offering. I think

that's a nice thing.

If you don't think it's nice, don't keep it. It's up to you. I mean, I was

trying to be nice. First of all, I'm not rejecting the gift.

I was just saying, like, let's talk about it.

Well, I wasn't looking to do it as a group.

Well, we're here. And I called you, and I reached out again this morning, so.

She wants to start this with the group to rile people up, to start on me again.

It's clear that Heather doesn't have respect for our friendship.

It's not something I can address as a group.

Not.

I fascinated my character and, like, dejected, like, our history and our

friendship. No, I did not.

And my loyalty.

No, I did not.

I'm not sure how to speak to somebody like this. I've never been in a

where it's just, like, a stone wall of denial.

That is not true, Heather.

That happened. That happened. You questioned my loyalty. No, I'm saying my

feelings were hurt.

I'm saying my feelings were hurt too. And I apologized to you for that and you

apologized to me so I don't know why we're still talking about it.

I was very, very hurt by you calling me a liar.

I did not call you a liar.

I felt like you called me a liar.

Everybody makes mistakes in friendships and you can't like constantly hold

people to this crazy standard that you don't even hold yourself.

That's exhausting.

It's a little ridiculous that Heather plays Judge Judy in every situation.

like, you're the bad one. You did this. You're awful.

And I'm a better friend to you. And it's like, why the f*** are you judging her

so harshly?

And everyone preaches, I want good friendships and I want to be good and I

people to be good to me. Be good to everybody.

Like, practice what you preach.

Why is it okay for you to express your feelings but not Meredith?

I'm not just, like, being a yes man. Part of that trust is saying, there's a

problem here. I got caught in the intraman. And I know how you feel. Can

Meredith speak for herself?

Yeah. Like, you speak for her.

I just, no, but think about it. Like, you guys had a mess.

That is failing. That is pissing me off. No, we did not have a miss. I ride hard

or die for Meredith from day one.

And when she brought up the TikTok, I completely defended you. And then the

morning at breakfast, you came in guns a -blazing. And I was like, listen.

You are freaking out over this TikTok. And there have been much bigger bombs

placed in your lap that you have chosen to ignore and look the other way. And

you are choosing to pick this TikTok as the reason to. It's about a marriage.

And violate your friendship with me. It's about a marriage. With Whitney and

with Brittany.

You are selective about what you have outrage for.

I don't agree with you.

You are selective about what you have outrage for.

I don't agree with you.

And if you want to hold a grudge against me over it, then do. That's up to you.

Like, how is this flipping on me? This is not on me. I'm not holding a grudge.

I'm not lying about you. You're like, you misspoke and I misspoke and we met

the middle.

I would never do that to you. When you hurt my feelings the way you do, I would

never just be like, you misspoke, I misspoke, and I thought we had moved on,

apparently you're so petty, you haven't.

Heather, I feel like you do things that are hurtful to me, and I don't know why

you do them, because I'm not doing anything to you.

I'm invested in our friendship. And when you say things like what you said at

Valter's, you know, you say mean things.

Don't be bitchy to me.

You're being bitchy to me.

And, like, I would never do that to you. I want to apologize for that.

I know.

I know. I'm sorry.

And it felt like it was for a show for everybody else to be like, I'll treat

Lisa like sh**.

Your experience wasn't the same as mine. And for me, I also think, like, if your

friends are experiencing hurt, like, you can't, like, you don't turn your back

on your friends. I'm not turning my back on you. No, I'm not saying, no, but I'm

not saying, but you're asking me to.

Like, I can take honesty, but, like, Heather, like, it's sometimes, like,

hurtful because you're telling me, like, no, that's not right.

And, like, nobody's the judge and jury.

I think the bigger thing that we're dancing around is we're protecting

that happened.

I feel like I just see it so clearly.

Like, I'm watching all of my friends fight.

And we're all fighting because of the way that you treated Brittany on the

plane.

And I don't know why it just can't be like I...

I

decided

to move on, but this isn't about Meredith and me anymore.

I agree with Whitney and Heather. She owes them an apology just as much as me.

What clearly has happened, Meredith, is you messed up, but we're

all paying the price for it.

Whitney has been the sponsor in this group since day one. She is the cause of

every problem. She projects everything she does onto everybody else over and

over again. And we let it go and give her a free pass because she's always on

some kind of healing journey.

I don't think you have a problem. I think you're the problem right now.

Everyone at this table has done things really much worse.

Where are you leaving?

Hold on.

I'm obviously in trouble now for saying how I really felt. And then she said I'm

not going to say anything because she wants to support her. But now they're

going to reframe everything that just happened. And I'm going to end up

apologizing again for.

ever having an opinion. I feel worse now than I did when I came to dinner, so it

kind of feels like... Just because it wasn't received doesn't mean you were

wrong, is it?

I'm just saying, like, I value friendship above everything, and it just

makes me feel bad to be reminded of where I really am at, you know, in the

rank of important.

Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Look at this!

It's so beautiful!

Is anybody else not enjoying this? Oh my God!

Just because you thought of the same thing, I'm supposed to give up my

to you? If somebody said slut, do you now own the word slut?

You lied about me having issues with substance abuse and mental health.

lie.

Opa, llama!