All language subtitles for Criminal Justice S02E03 x264 RB58

Juliet Miller, I'm charging you

with the attempted murder
of your husband.

She's not
some spontaneous domestic.

It's a proper planned shot
at murder.

Tell me Juliet Miller
isn't an abused woman.

What does Jack say
he did to you?

That he raped me.

No bruising, no tearing, no abrasions.

Oh. So no rape.

But there is a baby.

Bingo.

We're in trouble.

We really badly
want to help you.

But we can't do it
unless you start talking to us.

On a scale of 1 to 10,

where would you put the pain
you feel about what's happened?

Twelve.

Joe said something in hospital
before he lost consciousness.

He said your name.
Why would he do that?

There is something, isn't there?

Oi, grass.

It's your husband.

I'm afraid he's dead.

Anna?

It's a murder now.

Is Jack coming?

This isn't about
the criminal proceedings.

Thank you.

I'm here at the request
of the local authority.

Why?

To make an assessment.

Is this about the baby?

Sorry. Can you...

Do you mind
if you don't do that?

What's that?

Those...

I don't mind a conversation,
but silence...

Mm.

You should drink your tea.

What are you worried about?

The woman who brought the tea?

Do you think she wants to
hurt you in some way?

She's poisoned it?

Is that what you think?

Tell me about Ella.

I love her.

She's my daughter.

How do you think she feels
about what's happened?

She doesn't want to see me.

She's angry with me.

I think that will change.

Come on. Let's go for lunch.

Hello.

Where is everyone?

The governor's packet
of Maltesers melted.

I don't understand.

It's 35 degrees in here,
and it's only 33 outside.

So he decided,
on health and safety grounds,

it'd be best for the whole
prison to have a picnic.

They'll be back in 10 minutes.

Leave me alone.

I've seen you looking at me.

Aah.

Oh, help. Oh, God.

Help.

Oh, God. Help me, please.

Help!

You're all right.

Oh. Oh.

Aw.

Oh!

You suppose it'll be enough?

Ooh. Oh. Oh.

You're fully dilated.
She's ready to have this baby.

It's ready to come.

Push.

Push! Push for me.

We're gonna take
a statement from you now,

which is basically
me asking you questions

and you answering them.

Then that gets written up

to make it read
like you're actually saying it

without me here at all.

Then later
your evidence will be filmed,

and that's what the jury
will see.

Then at the trial,
you'll be cross-examined.

By Mum.

By a barrister.

Mum's barrister.

You won't be in the witness box.

You'll be in a special room.

The jury will be able
to see you, but you won't...

Does it have to be like that?

What do you mean?

She means can she do it all live
in the witness box.

You're 13 years old.

He's my dad.

You'll be shown around the court

before the trial begins, and...

we could probably arrange
for you to meet the judge.

Which would help.
Wouldn't it, Flo?

You're so good at this.

Hello.

What do you want?

Why are you here?

To see you and the baby.

Is that all?

I would've been here
for the birth

if you'd given us some notice.

Ella came out quickly too.

She was born at home.

Joe...

Joe was there.

Will you ask Ella to come
and see her baby sister?

I'll ask her.

Thank you.

We're finding you a place
on a mother-and-baby unit.

You'll have to go
in front of a board

to decide if you're suitable.

What would not be suitable?

History of drug use,
disruptive behavior.

You'll be fine.

All right.

I'm gonna take you through
step by step

everything that happened.

Okay.

But you don't have to do it
like that if you don't want.

And we can start
wherever you like.

Like where?

Well...

you could tell us
about your dad.

What kind of a father he was.

How much you miss him.

They won't let her do it.

No, I think they will.

It's not up to us... or her.

I think a psych will say
that she's Gillick-competent.

What?

It's the name they give

when they decide whether a child
can go live in a box.

What are you,
a lawyer all of a sudden?

No. I looked it up.

- I know what you're doing.
- What?

You're grooming her.

No. Don't use that word.

Helping her to stay angry

so she puts on a good show
for the jury.

Grooming.

Oh, so you think she's actually
like that, do you?

What, all very calm
and together,

having really quite recently

watched her mother murder
her father with a kitchen knife?

Would that be the real
Ella Miller in there?

Would it, Flo?

Hello.

Okay. Thanks.

No places.

What about Styal?

- Full.
- She's three hours old.

It's not a good idea in our job
to get in too close.

That used to be the whole point
in our job.

I happen to think it's in
the best interest of tiny babies

to be with their mothers.

You're shouting too much, Norma.

We're in the same building,
you and me.

Why don't you take a little time
to reflect on your performance?

- Hmm?
- What did you say to me?

You heard.

Fresh feet.

Clear brain.

You've kept all this...

and his name on the board
outside.

The thing about him being dead

is that a tiny part of me thinks
it isn't true.

Tell me about his lists.

Race times.

Broken down into 5K splits
for every race he ran.

Joe Miller the obsessive.

That'd be a line to take
if I were defense counsel.

We're all train spotters,
ain't we?

We love facts and league tables,
us boys.

Did you see much of him
in court?

He could really do people over.

I don't think anyone
he cross-examined

was ever the same again.

Even top class villains.

You don't mind telling me things
that might work against Joe?

It all gets one-dimensional
when it goes to trial.

But you and me, we can have
a proper conversation about him.

I miss him too much
not to talk about him properly.

How would you describe
your relationship?

I loved him.

What does that mean?

I had faith in him.

What about Joe at home?

My honest opinion?

He was a saint.

You know what worries me?

What she'll pull at trial.

Juliet the victim.

And how much do we love
a victim?

I'm scared she'll get off,
Mr. Faber.

Were you at the Miller house
a lot?

No.
She didn't like people there.

Who told you that?

He did.

How do you know he was a saint
if you were never there?

I know everything
about everyone...

or I am nothing.

How is she?

Better. She's quieter.

You should be careful with that.

What do you mean?

Ella's anesthetizing herself.

Underneath, she's screaming.

Isn't that a bit oversimplified?

It's very common for foster
families to encourage quietness

'cause it makes life easier
for them.

Usually, they don't know
they're doing it.

What are we supposed to do,

shake her up,
force her to be unhappy?

Keep talking.

Is this why I'm here?

Juliet's had her baby.

Great. Good.

Is she all right?

A girl...
In case you were wondering.

It doesn't sound like Ella.

It's a witness statement.

They make everyone
sound like police officers.

Has Ella ever "proceeded
down the stairs" in her life?

Never.

Must have been so hard for her
having a depressed mum.

Or, put it another way, it was
hard for her having a father

who made her mother feel
depressed...

isolated, small.

Is that unfair?

Joe's dead.

He's not in charge anymore.

You are.

And you've got responsibilities.

Because Joe is dead...
our options are different.

If you were to tell me
that I'm right...

the way he behaved made you
feel isolated, depressed...

then the jury
would have to consider

whether you'd been provoked
into doing what you did.

I'm just here to tell you
about the law.

That's my job.

Whether or not we use
provocation as a defense

is completely down to you
and what you tell me.

I can't control that.

She's beautiful.

I've got something to tell you.

You've got a little sister.

We can go and see her.

Would you like that?

Ella, I can't be like your dad.

But you can talk to me
if you want to.

What's he doing? It's...

Sir?

All this from his mobile phone.

Why would he do that?

Have you interviewed
Juliet's friends?

She hasn't got any.

Doesn't that bother you?

When we charged her, she asked
if she could clean her teeth.

Do women like that have friends?

What did Ella say about her mum
not having friends?

We didn't ask her.

Who was doing the questions?

Man to man,
outside of the job...

Don't do that
in front of my wife.

What's that?

Criticize me, sir.

If you're so convinced

Juliet Miller is a cold-blooded
murderer,

why are you against me looking
at Joe?

I don't understand.

Are you scared
I might find something?

Scared?
What are you talking about?

I can't think
how else to explain

your strength of feeling.

Don't you want to know
why she did it?

If you start caring
about why people do

what they do to each other,
you'll go mad.

We're only policemen, boss.

Is that what you really think?

I'm your fool, remember.

Fools tell the truth.

Every bed

in every mother-and-baby unit
in the country is full.

We haven't told her.

What does this all
actually mean?

Baby will go
into temporary care.

As a rule, we like to try
and place siblings together.

They're asleep.

I shouldn't...
I don't want to disturb them.

I'll come back in the morning.

Okay.

Okay.

It's half past 9:00.

What are you doing?

I'm front-loading.

Front-loading?

My report for the board
on Juliet Miller.

If a place comes up
in a mother-and-baby unit,

I want to be ready.

Never heard you use a term
like "front-loading" before.

I reflected on my performance,

and I'm aiming
at a more moderated approach

to my goal-achieving.

Drug mule.

Half a million pounds' worth
of heroin through Heathrow.

Why the hell should she get
a place ahead of you?

The Millers' car.

Taken 50 yards
from Dominic Rose's house.

By?

A traffic warden who was
about to slap a ticket on it.

- When?
- Day of the stabbing.

Joe was in court
when this was taken.

The woman who never went out
went out.

What was she doing there?

- I'll see you later, boss.
- Wait.

Yeah. The Joe Miller
mobile photographs.

Do we have the time of day
they were taken?

Good. Get me March 9th,
the day of the stabbing.

I'm coming with you.

What are you doing?
You're not going in with her.

- Yes.
- Oh, don't be ridiculous.

- What's she gonna do?
- You'd be amazed.

Amaze me.

We had one woman
faking four hours of labor,

then making a run for it.

Oh.

Juliet just pretended
to give birth.

The big tear in her perineum was
part of a cunning escape plan.

Listen. We'll do our job, right?
You do yours.

Go on.

Have you any idea how difficult
it is trying to pee

with 10 stitches in your vagina?

My client actually needs to take
a poo.

Right. Now, she does.

Juliet.

Hello.

Hello.

Well done.

Thank you.

- How long are...
- As soon as I'm ready,

they'll send us
to a mother-and-baby unit.

Come on.

What?

Oh, there's no way
we're taking the baby.

That's too much
to ask of my family.

We used to have them over a lot.

And the girls
have always been friends.

You said "used to"?

Yes.

Before Juliet became depressed?

Actually, it was Joe.

What do you mean?

He was the kind of man
who you could go to dinner with

and come away thinking
he was the most urbane,

amusing man alive.

And the second time, the same.

But by the fifth time, you never
wanted to see him again.

Charm wears thin.

Why didn't you carry on
seeing Juliet?

She was very finely tuned
to everything concerning Joe.

She sensed it
when I got tired of him.

She was a loyal wife.

When did you last speak to her?

She stopped going out
about a year ago.

Mrs. Rose?

I-I don't know. Uh...

The afternoon
before it all happened,

I was at home,
and the phone rang.

Twice, I think.

And when I answered it,
the caller hung up.

I think it was Juliet.

Was Dominic home?

He came home, yes.

Did you go out?

I went swimming.

I have to take the baby.

How long for?

I can't say.

How long could it be?

We just don't know.

Can I fight this?

There are no places.
There's nothing to fight.

Now?

There's no choice.

Right now?

That policeman wants to talk
to you.

What did he want?

I don't know, really.

I told him about the calls.

What calls?

The day it happened,
someone kept phoning

and then hanging up
when I answered.

I think it was Juliet.

Are you gonna ring him?

Uh... no.

I think I'll pop down
to the police station.

I don't want Ella and Kate to...

Trigger moments, we call them.

Would you tell me about it?

Can you manage that?

Where were you
when the memory was triggered?

Just on the street.

Did anyone speak to you?

Did you overhear anything?

Any other noises?

Smells?

There was a smell?

Meat.

A butcher?

Blood.

Can you look at me?

Don't look away.

You can do it.

He's lying on the bed.

And he's bleeding.

And I try to stop it,
but it just...

soaks through.

I can't stop Daddy bleeding.

What's the feeling
that goes with it?

My stomach drops.

My heart feels fast.

Give me a picture of happy Dad.

It doesn't matter what.

We used to go bodyboarding
at St. Ives.

Once...

this one big wave...

came right up onto the beach.

How did it feel?

I didn't know he'd caught it
until we were both just...

just there.

Together.

It made me feel happy and safe.

We're gonna get those feelings
back for you.

Okay. Thanks.

There's a place, but the board
can't sit until next week.

Why can't they do it today?

Outside my field of influence.
It's a prison thing.

Well, just pick up the phone.

Make all the multi-agency stuff
bloody well work

and get a board convened now.

You probably know
the prison governor.

You do know the prison governor.

Don't bully me.

3:00

Thank you.

Don't be late.

There's a place. I'm so sorry.

- But you need to do the board.
- When?

You said you might harm
yourself.

No. I... I don't think so.

We've got a record of it
when you came through reception.

Oh. Um, no.

I...

I-I just said that.

You just said it?

- I didn't mean it.
- Well, what did you mean?

I don't know.

- Was it a lie?
- No.

So why did you say it?

I was frightened.

- Are you lying to us?
- No.

No.

Anything you'd like to add?

I don't think I could go on
without my baby.

Sorry. We don't do blackmail.

It's how I feel.

She doesn't take drugs.
She's not an alcoholic.

She's had a baby before.
She'd be a good influence.

What more do you want?

So she came to see you
on the Monday afternoon,

about 2:25.

She wanted to talk to me

about the antidepressant
she was taking.

You haven't told us about this
before.

Oh, didn't seem
all that relevant.

So why at your house
and not at the surgery?

She's a friend.

Just an old-fashioned
house call.

If you like.

Except they're usually
at the patient's house.

So why your house?

I don't know. No reason, really.

You've obviously
spoken about this at home.

With your wife.

Yeah.

Lady Macbeth was sleeping
with the doctor.

Or at the least
she was trying to.

Are you sure?

No.

Ah.

"Police and Thieves."

"Bankrobber."
"I Fought the Law."

Oh, they were really into
the criminal justice system.

I don't want to have sex
tonight.

Well, it's a bit like doing
the lottery

with the same numbers each week.

The one night you don't do it...

♫ And all the crimes committed ♫

♫ A-day by day... ♫

You're angry with me.

No.

What's the matter?

Don't know.

♫ Hear what I say ♫

♫ Ay, hey, hey, hey, hey... ♫

Mnh-mnh.

Five more minutes, Flo Flo.

Come in.

Your godfather's here.

Is it all right if I, uh,
sit in on this one?

No. This is a one-to-one.

My dad was
a Kindertransport boy.

Never told anyone this.

You know what that means?

Ten thousand Jewish children

were allowed to leave
Nazi Germany and Austria in 1939

to come to Britain.

But if they wanted to come,

they had to leave
without their parents.

Now, my father's mum
and dad decided

he was old enough to make
a decision.

To leave them or not.

It was a terrible thing
to ask a boy to do.

But it was the making of him.

And they knew that.

And that day,
they gave him his adult life.

Now, you...
you carry on being brave, Ella.

And when this trial starts,
you go into that courtroom,

you look everyone in the eye,

and you let that jury know that
you are your father's daughter.

Look at me.

I have so much respect for you.

We have to ask...

Is a very young baby safe
in the care of this woman

when we don't know
what makes her violent?

So what's the answer?

Either this was an unprovoked
attack or it was provoked.

If it was unprovoked, then she
isn't safe with children.

But our picture of Juliet
is evolving.

It's a question
of careful monitoring

to see how she responds
to her circumstances.

Wait. Wait.
Why are we holding off here?

What's there to evolve?

There's maybe an outside chance
of manslaughter,

but what does that do?

Still leaves us with killer mum.

So my question is,
can we say the "A" word here?

Are we aiming for adoption
or are we all too shy to say it?

One step at a time.

Let's see how she responds

to being in the family court
tomorrow.

So we fuck her up, then decide
how much more to fuck her up

based on how she reacts
to us fucking her up?

I don't think that sort
of language is very useful.

Why are you so pro-Mum?

I'm not. I'm pro-baby.

We were gonna go out.

Did you want to come?

I'm fine. Thanks.

Are you okay?

My dad says your mum's great,
whatever anyone says about her.

Did he tell you to say that?

No.

Was the knife right in?

Yes.

Up to the handle?

Yes.

Did you see her do it?

Yeah.

Would you stop?

What?

Work.

If you get pregnant.

I don't want to talk about it.

I know it seems like bad luck,
but I...

I want to. Sorry.

You could be pregnant right now.

Imagine.

Baby Flo.

Imagine that.

♫ Hush, little baby ♫

♫ Don't say a word ♫

♫ Mama's gonna buy you
a mockingbird ♫

♫ If that mockingbird
don't sing ♫

♫ Mama's gonna buy you
a diamond ring ♫

♫ And if that diamond ring... ♫

Daddy!

Daddy!

I want to sleep
in the spare room.

Mum!

I don't think that would be good
for Ella.

- She might feel rejected.
- Daddy!

And what about Kate?

This isn't fair on her.

Daddy!

Daddy!

Mum! Mum!

The family court
isn't like the crown court.

It's more informal, relaxed.

They just need to know that
you're not a risk to your baby.

We know that you wouldn't,
but we need to convince them

that you're not in any way
likely to hurt her.

Why would I hurt her?

Look at her.

Tell them I could never harm
my baby.

There's a difference
between me telling the judge

and her hearing it from you.

It's so much stronger
if you tell her.

What I say isn't...
Isn't evidence.

It's just argument.

I-I don't know if I can.

- What was Joe doing to Ella?
- What?

Well, you told Ella
that you did it for her.

Why was that?

Was it something
that you were frightened

that he was gonna start doing to
her?

Which means it was something
that he was doing to you?

You need to help yourself
here, Juliet.

You need to go into court

and tell that judge all about
your relationship with Joe.

We can't do that for you.

I can't.

Why?

Because Ella will find out
what you say?

And what's wrong with that?

I haven't stopped being
her mother.

Do you want to keep this baby?

Look, the worst thing
that can happen here

is that you come away thinking

you haven't done everything
in your power

to convince this court that you
are not a risk to this baby.

You're gonna have to say things
that upset people... even Ella.

Do you suffer from feelings
of paranoia?

My client cannot be expected
to comment

on a medical condition.

Do you believe another prisoner
is trying to poison you?

I don't know.

Perhaps.

You don't know what's it like
in prison.

It's...

- Hard?
- Yeah. Mm.

Emotionally exhausting,
I should imagine.

Mm.

Do you sometimes think
about suicide?

No.

That's not what you told the
prison reception officer, is it?

I didn't have my baby then.

What are you suggesting?

Do you think
that I don't love her?

Well, that's not the issue.

- Is that what you're saying?
- Ms. Miller.

Why won't you answer
my question?

The question is whether you pose
a risk to your baby.

I could never harm her.

I love her.

And did you love your husband?

Mm.

She hasn't been in control.

These things have been happening
to her.

She doesn't choose to be
in prison.

She can't help it that women's
prisons are hell on earth.

I'm not a jury, Ms. Klein.

You might be able to showboat
at the Old Bailey,

but not in my court.

I apologize, Your Honor.

I'm simply asking you
to look beyond

what would be true of any woman
in Juliet Miller's position.

At what?

I can't imagine evidence.

Does she say
she is not paranoid?

That she didn't stab her husband
with a kitchen knife

whilst he was in bed?

Ms. Klein?

No.

Where is she?

The maternity nurse
is bringing her in.

It's fine.

Are they going to take her away?

No. This is very early days.

He's just decided the threshold
criteria has been met

and you... you do pose a risk
to the baby.

What does it mean?

It means no one's gonna
take her away now.

I want to see her. Where is she?

I've never lied to you.
I'm not gonna start now.

What happened today should have
no bearing on the final hearing.

But these things gain momentum.

Everyone pretends they don't,
but they do.

People's minds, once they start
going in one direction,

it's hard to change track.

What do you think?
Is that good? Huh?

Juliet, listen.

At the final hearing,

what happens to your baby
is entirely up for grabs.

Providing you're not starting
a life sentence for murder.

If you want to keep your baby...

you need to get off
on the murder.

That's our whole focus now.

And if you want to get off
the murder,

you need to tell us
what Joe did to you.

Van's here, ladies.

Let's go.

It will give her the
stimulus she's missing in here.

Sunshine. Flowers. Everything.

It's only 24 hours.

When baby's away,
it's hard to get the milk going

because the triggers are
missing... her touch, her cry.

So the photo helps.

They're very nice women,
and it's what's best for baby.

And that's what counts,
isn't it?

Here we go.

Here we go.

Upsets the other mothers
seeing a mum missing her baby.

So 24 hours back here.

Don't worry.

The time flies.

And you're back in your old cell
with an old friend.

Angela?

Norma was kind of suggesting

that we needed to know
that he was talking to Ella.

But she didn't say why?

No.

She's a very experienced
social worker.

Norma? What about her?

She wants us to know that Saul
the clerk spends time with Ella.

Yeah. I know. He does.

Why?

Well, why shouldn't he?
He's... He's her godfather.

Don't you think he could just be
a little bit pro-Joe?

For a man as sentimental
as Saul,

preserving the memory
of a dead loved one

is as close to happiness
as it gets.

Happiness?

What are you talking about?
He's dead!

A man is dead!

Oh, what is this?

You think that woman should
get to look after her kids?

What's the matter with you?

You've stopped being
police officers?

You all social workers now?

- That's enough.
- No. She's going down.

That's not up to you.

With the greatest of respect,
sir,

I think it's about time
you stop looking at your navel

and start becoming a policeman
again.

Wiggle your toes for me, Ange.

Angela.

I'm so sorry, Ange.

Angela?

Ange. Ange.

An... Oh.

Help!

Angela.

Help me!

Help me!

Help! Help!

Help!

Help!

Help!

Just remember...
She's not like any other client.

Abused women are different.

There are reasons
for what I did.

What reasons?

Why did you kill Dad?

Is it a good idea

for a 13-year-old girl to give
evidence live in a witness box

about the violent death
of her father?

He said, "I love you."

How can you be so sure of this?

'Cause it was the last thing
I ever heard Daddy say.

Use your common sense.

And when you do that,
there's only one verdict

you can properly return.

Guilty as charged.