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Welcome back to The Traitors: Uncloaked,

the official visualised podcast

hosted by me, Ed Gamble.

You know by now, superfans, this is your spoiler warning.

If you haven't caught up with episode 11,

then go and do that right now on BBC iPlayer.

And I cannot believe I get to do this again,

two nights on the trot. KLAXON

Yes, the Faithful have caught another Traitor,

with Freddie named by everyone else at the Round Table,

and Francesca winning the extraordinary power of the Seer.

Coming up, Freddie will be here

to discuss Charlotte's treacherous double crossing.

We're joined by Wilf from series one

and Diane and Harry from series two

to talk final game strategy for both the Traitors and the Faithful.

Plus, Rose Matafeo will be here to dissect all the drama

ahead of the final!

Welcome back, Wilf, Harry, Diane, and welcome, Rose Matafeo,

for the first time. Thank you for joining me

for the last episode of Uncloaked before the grand finale. Aw! Aw!

What an episode it was, though.

Ooh! Deception... Oh, my...!

THEY LAUGH No!

This is the energy.

This is the energy we need.

I'm sad about it, to be fair! You're sad?

I'm sad! Oh, come on. No more to watch, he means.

Yeah. Sad - sad about the fact there's only one more episode left,

but what an episode this was. We've got loads to discuss.

We've got the final mission of the series,

where the clowns and the dolls returned.

Not a phrase I thought I'd be saying at the start of the series,

to be honest. We've got Freddie's massive lie that became his undoing

and how the power of the Seer might change everything

for our remaining players.

So that's where we left it.

So let's start there on Uncloaked with the cliff-hanger

of all cliff-hangers -

when Frankie decides to use her Seer power on Charlotte.

Players...

The Seer has made their decision.

The person they want to invite to their private meeting is...

...Charlotte.

Ooh.

Well, that couldn't have gone much worse for Charlotte, I don't think.

Not at all. Not at all!

You can see that smile.

She's preparing herself for the worst-case scenario,

and this is the worst-case scenario.

I mean, it's obviously going to change the game massively.

I did not expect Frankie to do this.

Well, she said as much.

She said she wants to confirm

that she's a Faithful, right?

So I don't know if she's going into this with any suspicion

of Charlotte or not. I don't think she is.

I think for the first time, she's got it so wrong

that she's got it right.

I think that's the case! Right? Yeah.

It's an interesting use of the power, isn't it?

Because you would have thought that power should be used

to find someone who you think is a Traitor.

What Frankie is doing is trying to double-check

that she knows who at least one of the Faithfuls is

going into that final game -

which is smart, but she's accidentally found a Traitor.

Yeah. I mean, what do we think is going to happen? Any idea?

Because, obviously, we know that Charlotte now has to reveal

to Frankie that she is a Traitor.

After that... This is Charlotte now

in the end of an episode of Breaking Bad, where it feels...

Yeah. It feels like there's no way out.

Is there any room for Charlotte to go, "No, I didn't,

"I said I was a Faithful"? Yeah, of course.

I think Charlotte needs to spin the book. Like, spin the page,

or whatever the saying. Turn the tables?

Turn the tables. Thanks for the help!

No, sorry, guys. Spin the book. Yeah, spin the book.

Spin the book and see what page you land on.

How do you think Charlotte's feeling now, Harry, in this situation?

How would you be feeling?

I'd be so, like, demoralised, because I've worked so hard -

and also, she thought... Like, she did an amazing job

with stitching up Freddie, as well, and backstabbing him. Yeah.

So she thought she was in the final and she was sort of plain sailing,

but now this whole Seer twist has let her down.

But, again, nothing would be stopping me.

I would be, like, trying to play her at her own game.

Like, people think it's you because of this - and maybe I'd say to her,

like, "Just let me win and I'll give you some money."

Charlotte has been particularly unlucky,

because she went in with a - well, a false Welsh accent.

Elen was Welsh.

Now she thinks she's got it,

and the Seer had the other four,

however many were left, to call up, and they've called up Charlotte.

I couldn't believe it. It's been quite unlucky, really,

for Charlotte, to be fair. Really unlucky, and I think Harry's right.

She's done this amazing move on Freddie,

that we'll talk more about later - and that should be it.

That should be the cherry on the cake.

That should be her romping home.

That's The Traitors, unpredictable. Yeah. The whole way through.

My only other thought was, could Charlotte go in there,

say, "I'm a Traitor," because she has to,

also say, "And I'm not Welsh," and speak in her real voice? Yeah.

So when they both come out of there and Frankie says, "She's a Traitor.

"Also, she's not Welsh," Charlotte could go,

"Well, she's... She's gone mad." THEY LAUGH

"What are you talking about?" Yeah.

Just in her Welsh accent again. That's a great tactic.

How do we think Frankie is going to take Charlotte's revelation, Rose?

I think if Charlotte asked nicely and be like, "Can you not tell?"

Frankie would do it.

Frankie would be like, "Really?" Like, she just wouldn't tell.

Because... Do you think? Well, she's in a... No, of course not.

That'd be insane! What are you talking about?

I was looking at you like, "What are you..." What are you talking about?!

Have we watched the same series?! Are you kidding?

But then I do think, you know... I mean, I think...

I honestly think Francesca might cry when Charlotte tells her that...

Yeah, of course she will! ...she's a Traitor!

That she's a Traitor, because she'll be so stressed out...

But I don't think... I think Charlotte, she's...

She's already been showing so many signs of cracking.

Like, the entire time through that Round Table,

being asked to be, to be called in to see the Seer, she's smiling.

She's like, the whole time, she's like...

But I thought that was an amazing reaction, to smile,

because I would burst into tears

and throw myself through the window, I think.

Do you know what? Francesca's done...

...been wrong so many times,

is there a way she can fumble this?

Like, does anyone think there's a way she can, like, mess it up?

I don't know.

She can't, really. Just go in there and say, "Yeah, she's a Traitor."

No, but don't forget she got the Minah thing

when they were doing that chess game...

Yeah. ..as the voice that was least relevant or whatever. She got that

and she also got what Minah was doing.

She was instrumental in that, yeah. She's coming into her own, maybe.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, I adored her at the beginning

and thought, "Oh, my God," you know, great, strong woman.

Then she was very quiet, then she cried a lot,

but I think she's coming into her own now. Well, definitely.

She just got the Seer position, you know?

So, understandably, everyone was desperate

to win the Seer power in the mission,

which came down to who banked the most gold individually.

Let's look at how they approached the first task

when they had to memorise which clowns had gold.

Are we, are we aiming... Looking at the coins or the skulls?

Because there's two ways, OK?

Jake made a really great suggestion that we focus on the five skulls,

not the ten ones who've got money,

so we only have to look at five of them.

OK. Players, my clowns are impatient.

They've got something really special to show you.

Right. I've got a skull at the back. I've got this one down there.

I've got the next one. I've got that one.

I've got the one by the tree. I've got the first on the bottom.

That's some top-level play from Jake, isn't it?

I hadn't thought of that as an option.

I mean, I think he's shown himself to be quite the leader.

Amazing. His gameplay the whole way through has just been top-notch,

definitely, as a Faithful. I'm not sure about that.

I don't think it's been top-notch.

No. He mentioned Linda and then didn't go for her.

I know, but then you need...

The thing is, it's all about strategy.

If you go for someone...

Like, if he went for Linda straight away at the start

and didn't get enough people on his side,

Linda could have just turned around and murdered him.

Because if I was a Traitor and he said it was me at the start,

but no-one else voted for me,

I would have got rid of him straight away.

What do we think about the dolls making a return? Enjoyed it?

I mean, this was obviously a game of risk.

You pull it as many times as you have the cojones for

and hope that they don't call you greedy and you lose all the money.

How would you have been at this, Rose?

Terrible. I would have been terrible.

I would have ended the game before I pulled the string.

I'm so terrified of risk, I would have, I would have hated it.

I think, after watching this series, I would've thought,

"I would have been good on The Traitors."

This series, I'm like, "I would have sucked so hard."

I would've... I would've been stressed out this entire time.

As a Faithful or a Traitor?

Uh, both. Yeah. Both.

I want no part of it.

Can I just say that? I want no part of any future series.

If you're considering it... I don't know, honestly.

I don't know. Celebrity Traitors coming up, Rose.

I'm actually still... I'm on the table again.

My name's on the table.

I am fully... I'm fully into it. Yeah.

I think the most fascinating part of this mission for me was Alexander

choosing to give Frankie all of his coins

in that final mission.

But that's sensible thinking. He wasn't going to win anyway,

so he was trying to just cement the fact he was a Faithful.

Yeah. And obviously he trusts Frankie, so go for it.

And his whole play was, "I'm going to help you win, Frankie." Yeah.

"And then you pick me to ask me

"whether I'm a Faithful or a Traitor

"and I can prove to you once and for all that I'm a Faithful."

Then she went and picked Charlotte.

I've got to say, though, I love him so much.

I've just got to say. He's the best.

It feels like you're slightly gutted that he wasn't out on this episode,

so you could have met him. Kind of, to be honest.

I was like... Yeah.

I've never seen somebody who's such a good Faithful

be seen as a Traitor all the time. Yeah. Like, I've never seen it.

Ahem! OK. OK. But... Do you need some water, Diane?

Do you want some fizzy rose, Diane? LAUGHS

Please!

We should talk about Charlotte's gameplay.

We should talk about the Shield gameplay.

Oh, yeah. Telling Freddie that they're going to murder Leanne,

knowing full well she's got the Shield.

Leanne walks into breakfast.

Freddie just looked like he wanted to go home at that point.

He was so baffled and so confused.

Knew that he'd been thrown under the bus.

What do we think about that as a piece of play, Harry?

Because obviously, in the previous series, your Shield gameplay...

Yeah. ..was something that carried you through.

Charlotte's done the right move. I said, as we was watching it,

I would've done the same thing - but I think she should've twisted it

in a way that she would've told Freddie

that she knew Leanne had the Shield,

but she should've tried to lie to Freddie in the Turret,

saying, you know, like, if it was me personally, I would've been like,

"Freddie, I know Leanne's got the Shield,

"but I think we should still murder her to cover up the fact that, like,

"she's then tried pinning it on herself."

Would Freddie have gone for that?

Because he was one of the ones who didn't know about the Shield.

I don't know - but that's the risk you've got to take,

I think, as a Traitor. Yeah.

At one point, I did think,

"Freddie's going to do something amazing here,"

because when it all happens and he says,

"Oh, she's double crossed me, she's thrown me under the bus.

"Well, she'd better watch out, cos I'm coming for her." Hmm.

And then the lie, the lie he told... He told Minah, yeah.

...when he said, "I knew... I knew about the Shield.

"I think, I think I did." "Who told you?"

"Minah." "A ghost?"

Minah wasn't even there!

He's like, "Minah...?"

I felt for him so much that... ROSE: I know.

He was just out of his depth and said the first thing... Yeah.

that came into his head. ROSE: Yeah. Who wouldn't be?

He's made a Traitor, like, a few hours before. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

And what he should have said in that, I was screaming at the telly

when someone said, "Who told you about the Shield?"

He should have said, "Charlotte." Charlotte, yeah. Mm-hm.

Immediately. Just thrown that hand grenade straight back up there

and seen how she dealt with it, but instead he said Minah. Yeah.

So, obviously, Charlotte is really rolling

with what's happening to her,

so, you know, these things are being thrown up.

Minah's going, she gets Freddie, she does all of this.

How much of the game is instinct versus calculation, Wilf?

What we've seen is when she became a Traitor,

she really came into herself and really found the role.

I think as a Faithful, she was up and down at times,

especially at the beginning, but all of a sudden,

as soon as she put that cloak on, she took a different role.

She was like, "I'm going for Minah. I'm going to get out Minah."

She knew that she was going to get Freddie and get him out.

She fully immersed the backstabbing Traitor role,

and I don't think it's by accident at all.

I think she's collected,

she knows exactly what she's going to do.

I think we didn't give her props

for how intelligent she was at the beginning, I think.

She was just quiet, she was just... Quiet, yeah.

Yeah. With a false Welsh accent. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah! But now...

No wonder she was quiet.

Yeah. She's scared - she's scared to talk,

in case she messes it up! THEY LAUGH

But, yeah, we've just seen her come into her element,

play the game really well,

and she's by far the best recruited Traitor there's been,

I think... 100%. ...from what I've seen, anyway.

What about Ross?

THEY LAUGH

Sorry, Ross. I love you.

Ross shares a record with Freddie for a Traitor

who didn't murder anyone. THEY LAUGH

So, Charlotte's expert treachery led to Freddie's banishment

at the Round Table.

He's going to be joining us shortly in the studio,

so let's remind ourselves of his final moments in the castle.

Freddie, you have received the most votes,

and you are banished from the castle.

Before you leave us forever, please reveal,

are you a Faithful or are you a Traitor?

It has been the honour of my life playing this game.

I think you're all an amazing bunch of people.

I love you, Leanne. And I love you, Frankie, so much.

I am...

...a...

...Traitor. LEANNE SHRIEKS

TRIUMPHANT SHOUTING

Go, go, go, go, group.

Oh, my...!

And he's here with us now.

Please welcome Freddie! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Welcome to Uncloaked, Freddie.

Thank you so much for joining us.

That's all right. Thank you for having me.

What was it like standing up there, having to say you're a Traitor,

knowing that 24 hours beforehand you were a Faithful?

It was actually the worst thing,

cos since the start, everyone thought I was a Traitor,

like, going through the whole entire thing,

and I thought I wanted that one moment to be, say I was a Faithful,

but obviously... To rub it in their faces, almost.

Exactly. Like, you've been wrong the whole entire time.

In that moment when you said, "I love you, Leanne,

"I love you, Frankie,"

was that a genuine thing or was it an attempt to maybe...

No, it was honestly... ...push something onto Charlotte?

It was the first thing that I thought of, because I thought,

"I've grown closest with these two."

Frankie was like my mum in there... Yeah.

...and then Leanne was like my best friend.

Hmm. But then, when you say it like that, it kind of does look

like I've just singled out Charlotte and left it like that.

It would have been amazing if you'd also said,

"I love you, Alexander, I love you, Jake."

THEY LAUGH Yeah. I might've gave it away

a little bit! And then just looked at Charlotte and gone,

"Hmm." Enjoy. THEY LAUGH

Now, at the start of the Round Table,

Claudia asked you to all look at each other

and say, "I am Faithful."

How did that feel?

I thought, "You've really picked your moment to do this now,"

because any other time I'd have been happy looking

at everyone being like that,

but then, obviously, because I was a Traitor, I was like,

"For God's sake!" I was like, "No, please." Yeah.

And then obviously the mission before that as well,

I've just been, the whole entire day

was just trying to defend myself, but it was just dreadful.

Right from the breakfast as well, it was, it was you,

it was doing the piece to camera and saying,

"And now I've got to go into breakfast

"and I'm really bad at lying."

And I was like, "This is not going to go well."

It didn't go well at all! It didn't go well.

I mean, I do want to talk about this particular moment

because I think we're all obsessed with this moment

that you decided to say that someone had told you

that Leanne had a Shield.

Well, because I was just panicking straight away.

We saw. THEY LAUGH

I was completely, like, taken aback.

I'm quite naive. I thought, "Oh, Charlotte will be nice to me.

"We'll be friends. Whatever."

I walk in there and then I think Jake goes,

"Oh, Leanne has a Shield" and then I then, she was like,

"Oh, me, Charlotte and Frankie knew,"

and I was like, I just looked at her and I thought,

"You, aw, I cannot believe that,"

and then it just, oh, it just all capsized from there.

And I kind of knew from that minute on I was like,

"Well, OK, just banish me now."

Then at the Round Table, doubling down on that lie

and saying that Minah had told you after the Round Table

that Minah had been banished at.

I was crumbling.

Yeah. I think you'd already, you already knew.

I kind of already thought, like, "It's me." Yep.

Just, "It's my time to go. I'm gone."

Let's take another look at that moment.

What do you mean? Whoa, does that mean someone tried to murder you?

What it means is either Alexander or Freddie

has tried to murder me.

Well, it wasn't me.

Alexander, anything?

Obviously not me.

Obviously I will say that, either way.

That does kind of put you two right in it.

Ain't going to lie.

Did you know she had a Shield?

Yeah, I think so, yeah.

Right, OK. Oh, my God.

Yeah, Minah told me that you had a Shield.

Minah didn't know.

Oh, mate.

Oh, mate. I'm...

I feel so bad laughing, cos he's right here. Yeah.

But... It's devastating.

It is devastating, that moment.

I don't actually know why that came out of my...

Cos I think straight after that clip, Alexander was like,

"Actually, someone who has a Shield could have framed us"

and I thought, "You're a smart man, aren't you?"

I just thought, and then because I said it, I thought,

"I've got to go with my lie now."

But he's not been through everything you had to go through.

Yeah, exactly, I'm like... From being a Faithful and being suspected

for the majority of the game so far, and then being,

"Right. At least I get to make it to the end as a Faithful

"and everyone will know," to being recruited

and you just looked so downhearted when you were recruited,

just went, "I don't want to be a Traitor."

Did you genuinely believe that,

like, because you just said that Charlotte was going

to be really nice?

Like, did you believe that she was in the game to keep you in the game?

I don't... I'm quite naive.

I was just like, I just thought, "Oh, like, maybe,

because in my thought, I thought,

"Me and you could maybe win this together."

I'm quite, like, I take people at face value.

I thought, "OK, she's saying all the right things to me."

Obviously, I know it's a Traitor,

so I know she's just completely backstabbed Minah,

so, like, she probably is going to backstab me.

So I kind of knew that, but I just didn't think it would be

the moment I walked into breakfast.

I thought she might start whispering my name about a little bit... Yeah.

...and then be like, "Let's get Freddie out."

Not, like, straight away. I was like, "Wow. OK."

Who was scarier for you, the evil clowns, the haunted dolls

or the undead Leanne?

The undead Leanne.

As soon as I saw those, like, blonde hair walk through the door,

I thought, "Oh, my God, there's no way.

"There's no way." When you were asked, you know,

who told you about the Shield,

why did Charlotte's name not come to you? I don't know!

I was panicking and I just thought... I just panicked

and I just thought, Oh, my God... You can understand why, though.

I didn't want to, like... I don't know, I should have called her out

and said Charlotte, cos then she would have been like, "What?"

And I'd be like, "She's lying," but...

I think you go down in history, for me, as a Faithful,

because you didn't even murder anyone. Thank you -

and I voted for Charlotte at the end, as well. That was my little...

Yeah. I was going to say, did it never cross your mind,

as soon as you saw it was Charlotte,

"OK, I need to get rid of her instead,

"because she's going to come for me"?

Yeah, but I think... He didn't have time!

But, like, as soon as I...like, I just don't know, like, in my mind,

if I had seen Charlotte, knowing what she had done to everyone else,

I would have known that I was damned.

So I wouldn't have even believed her

when she was telling me about Leanne, murder Leanne.

Like, I would have just been like, "Hmm, you seem a bit dodgy,"

and then that whole night, I would have just come up with a way

to get rid of Charlotte. Yeah, I didn't even think of it -

but now, looking back on it, she really did lead that Leanne charge.

Totally. I was like, "Oh, my God, why did I not see that?"

She pitches it as if she's going to subtly sort of, like,

lead you towards Leanne, but she basically tells you what to do.

She is good at it - and obviously, I've not been a Traitor,

so I was like, "Yeah, I'll do whatever you want, Charlotte.

"I'll do whatever you want."

What about your relationship with Charlotte throughout the game?

Because you said you were closest to Frankie and Leanne.

Me and Charlotte did get along really well,

and, like, it was kind of after the whole clique argument,

I kind of moved towards, like,

Frankie, Joe and Charlotte's sort of like corner,

rather than the others.

So we became friends through that.

But then she did that to me!

And now you find out she's not actually Welsh.

Oh, my God! What do you feel about that?

I was going to say, do you know all the secrets

from, like, Leanne, as well?

Yeah. So I've found that out now, but, like, it was just cra...

For example, with Leanne, like, she's played it perfectly.

Like, you go in as blonde, you wear a pink blazer.

No-one's going to question that you were a soldier.

It's really bad with stereotypes like that,

but you just assume that she's a nail tech -

and then, with Charlotte, I just, like...

Why would I question someone's accent?

I just don't see the point of it, personally.

I was like, "Why would I ever, like, question you're not from Wales?"

That doesn't make you a Traitor or a Faithful.

A lot of people have said that, but...

It's clearly worked for her! ...it's worked for her.

Whatever she's doing is absolutely working for her.

I think she was meant to be a Traitor from the very beginning.

Mm. Like, I think she was kind of born a Traitor,

and then she just lucked out to be a Faithful, then...

So you mean from the beginning of her LIFE?

From the beginning of her entire life!

But I think it's such a real advantage to gain people's trust,

as being a pure Faithful for so long... Yeah. I agree.

...and then when you switch to a Traitor, I think

you're at such an advantage.

So you learn both ways of acting.

And then, obviously, she had longer

to know how to be at the breakfast table,

and just act totally normal, than you did -

and, like, yeah, it's such a huge advantage.

So, I think she did well, and, um...

Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

What was your take on her when you saw her at the table?

Well, I just, like... I respected the craftsmanship of it.

I was like, "OK, this is this is really respectable.

"You've played a great game here," but I just thought,

"I can't believe you did that to me."

I thought we were friends or whatever, but obviously

this is quite a cut-throat game.

Did you think about just chucking a croissant at her or something?

I should have chucked several croissants at her.

"Why has Freddie just chucked a croissant at Charlotte?"

But my plan was to not, like, argue with her at all

throughout the whole day, so then she thought she got away scot-free.

But I was always going to vote for her at the end.

I'll just let her think that I don't care, whatever,

but I thought, "I'll just vote for you regardless of whatever..."

Because not all the Traitors vote for Traitors that have, you know...

Exactly. ..stabbed in the back, so to speak.

Yeah. And because no-one thought it was her, ever,

so I just thought, "Well, I'll just vote for you." Yeah.

I think that was... When you did that,

I was like, "Oh, that could be problematic for Charlotte."

Little did I know, round the corner was a way bigger problem to come.

What would you have done if you was the Seer? Well, I think I won.

I think... Going back there, I think I got quite a lot of money.

So, I thought I won. If I was doing it, I would either...

Actually, after Charlotte's thrown me under the bus,

I would have done her as a Seer and then told everyone

that she was a Traitor, probably,

and then just throw it back in her face. I like that.

So you are a Traitor! Yeah.

All of this, "Oh, I'm a Faithful, I hated having to be a Traitor..."

Mate, you love it. You was going to betray her.

In hindsight, right, if you didn't pick Leanne,

who would you have picked instead?

I would have probably murdered Jake,

just because he kind of thought it was a boy.

He thought it was either me or Alexander,

and he was leaning more towards me every single time.

So I would have got rid of Jake.

And if it made me looked suspicious, I would have tried to run with it.

You would have kept your allies in there as well. Yeah, exactly.

Inside the castle as well,

towards the end for Charlotte's gameplay now,

was there any thought...

...because obviously there's been women power the whole series,

because Jake pushing the whole male narrative,

I think that's a good cover for Charlotte, too,

because there's been three Traitors that's been caught

and they're all women.

So did anyone think there could be another woman in the Turret?

I think we all kind of wrongly decided

that there had to be a boy in there,

which is so silly when you look back on it,

but Jake kept going like, "Oh, it has to be a boy, and it's not me,

"and it's one of you." And obviously me and Alexander were like,

"It's not us. It must be one of you two."

So then we were fighting between ourselves

when Charlotte's just getting away scot-free.

But Alexander wasn't convinced there would be a man.

Alexander was quite... He thought no.

And we should have probably thought,

like... if, say, they'd started with three women, if they recruited,

they're probably going to recruit another woman

just to keep that girl power.

But obviously you don't think of that when you're in there.

I do like the boldness of Alexander saying, "Well, it's not me,

"but I would say that either way."

Yeah. I see where you're coming from. Yeah.

You liked that, didn't you, Rose? I did.

I liked it.

So we're almost at the Traitors series three final.

I am so excited.

I cannot wait to see what happens.

Uh, the Frankie Seer power.

This is a huge twist, it's massive,

and the outcome of the final could all hang on this -

but I want to ask all of you, did anyone notice this in episode nine?

Ooh! It's been there all along.

The Easter eggs were there.

Oh! I don't know what's in that book.

I wonder if anyone had picked that book up and read it,

they might have got the power straight away!

Maybe if Yin was still in, cos she read books. Yin didn't get a chance.

Yeah, well, Yin read the books.

That's why she went. Yeah.

But in addition, all the way back in episode one,

Claudia told the players about another twist.

Let's have a reminder.

Listen carefully.

Those who make it to the final will no longer

reveal their true identities

as they leave.

Instead, you will need to rely

solely on your instincts

as to whether any Traitors

are left in the game.

Some classic Linda faces at the end of that.

We talked about this a bit already,

but how do we think this is going to affect the final game, Harry?

It's going to be so unpredictable of what's going to happen, clearly,

because I haven't got a clue what's going to go on.

When it was, like, my series and series one, with Wilf,

you can sort of work out that there must be one Traitor left,

or two Traitors left,

so once you get that Traitor who stands up and says,

"I'm a Traitor," then you can sort of end the game.

Now there's no hope of knowing who's who.

So I think if anyone's got a grudge with anyone

or they have one slight feeling that it's anyone,

they're just going to go for them and re-vote again.

Rose, who do you think this twist benefits the most?

Is it the Traitors or the Faithful?

I think it benefits the Traitor.

Yeah. I think so.

This group feels like they go so off vibes.

So, if... Like, to be honest,

like, I feel like if they can get Charlotte

and they've got this, like, win of getting a Traitor,

I think they possibly could be like... Then they don't know.

They won't know Charlotte's a Traitor. Oh, that's so true.

This is the twist. Yeah. So this is the maddest thing about the game.

Unless they're convinced by Frankie.

Yeah, but even if they get rid of her,

they then don't know whether Frankie's telling the truth.

Frankie should have just got another Faithful in and said,

"Look, we're both Faithfuls. We can't trust anyone else.

"Just get rid of all of them and split it 50-50."

But she thinks Charlotte's a Faithful.

Maybe that's what she was trying to do. Yeah.

It's going to completely backfire.

And now she's just caught a Traitor.

Do you think, though, before you left,

where was the balance going towards,

Charlotte or Frankie?

Um, I think people would have voted out Frankie

before they voted out Charlotte. Really?

Yeah. Like Charlotte's, like, completely undetected. Wow.

Frankie's been quite quiet.

Why are they still...? Why...? I don't know.

There was the whole thing,

it was, like, Leon versus Frankie in one of the Round Tables.

It was either Frankie was going to go or Leon was going to go,

and I think since then, they started to have a bit of suspicion. OK.

She got a lot wrong, Frankie. She's also not voted...

She hasn't voted out a Traitor. No. She didn't vote out Linda.

She didn't vote out Armani. Will, would you have liked this twist

to have been in your series?

Because I think at the time you said it felt like a relief

to be able to reveal your status,

but do you think it might have been quite fun to not do that?

No, not at all.

I think the weight that lifts off your shoulders,

especially, like... It was so weird, cos I lost,

but I felt like I'd won at the same time.

I can't explain the feeling that was there,

but, for me, being able to say that and get it off your chest,

for these people to go on and play the game and win,

because obviously I knew I was the last Traitor.

They didn't know that, but I did, and I was like, "Oh, my God,

"these guys can go and win now."

But imagine not being able to do that and go, "Well, I've left it..."

You haven't left it at the end of the story.

Did you feel a relief at saying you were a Traitor?

The greatest Traitor in the world, if I remember rightly!

That's, like, the trickiest question ever,

because obviously if I was in there, I would love this twist,

because it's, like, as long as I get to the final,

no-one knows how many Traitors there are.

So you need everyone to trust you as a Traitor

this time round with the twist.

So, I'm not too sure, but I mean, yeah, once I said I was a Traitor,

I obviously felt bad.

It was about two minutes later,

you're running around outside screaming... Two minutes later...

..."I'm the greatest Traitor in the world!"

With the gold coins. Yeah, I know.

Now, Freddie, we have to ask you, whilst you're here on Uncloaked,

did you suggest the shower scenes?

LAUGHTER

I wasn't against the idea of going in the shower.

It was like a 50-50 decision.

I said, "Yeah, sure, I'll get in the shower."

It's really funny, because normally it's people's hobbies.

Freddie, what was the reaction of your friends and family

when they found out that you were in the show?

They were pretty shocked, to be fair.

So, I told people when I went for three weeks,

because if I'm not on my phone, my friends are going to be like,

"What is going on?", basically.

But I told my friends that I was on an MI5 internship sort of thing,

because it's the only other reason why...

Because it's the only reason why I wouldn't be on my phone.

Because, like, if even if, like...

I can think of so many other reasons!

Yes, exactly.

So the bad lie was there from the start, you can see it.

That is so funny! Your phone was broken, springs to mind.

"I'm there with Minah.

"I don't know. Who's Minah? What?"

Freddie, we are so sorry you missed out on the final hurdle.

Delight having you, of course.

We're continuing over on BBC Sounds, where we are doing a countdown

of the best moments of this series.

We're going to get the last bits of intel on our remaining players

from banished Faithful-turned-Traitor Freddie,

before we make our predictions ahead of the final.

It's all in the bonus episode of Uncloaked

in your BBC Sounds app right now.

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A massive thanks to Rose, Wilf, Diane, Harry and Freddie

for joining me, and thanks to you for watching as well.

The Traitors finale is tomorrow, earlier than normal, at 8:30pm,

and we'll be here joined by the entire cast, plus Claudia,

with an extra-special Uncloaked right after at 9:40pm,

also on BBC One and iPlayer.

I'm Ed Gamble. Stay Faithful.

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