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Hello, Traitors super-fan, and welcome to this edition of Uncloaked

with me, Ed Gamble.

This is the visualised podcast where we dissect everything

from The Traitors episode nine.

There isn't long left!

Now, spoilers are coming in a matter of seconds,

so if you haven't seen the latest episode, begone!

Get it watched on iPlayer before you get stuck into our chat here.

Coming up - Lisa and Leon are both here to give us the lowdown

on their whole castle experience.

We have the exclusive moment where they find out

who the Traitors are for the first time.

Plus joining me in my basement to analyse

everything we've just seen,

we have Angela Scanlon, and Traitor Wilf from series one!

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Wilf, Angela, welcome. I was about to clap myself. I know.

Yeah, you get clapping. WILF LAUGHS

Yeah!

You know, if you can't do it for yourself, Wilf...

Are you clapping each other? That's such a delightful energy.

Yeah, it's good.

Welcome back to Uncloaked, Wilf.

Hello. And welcome to Uncloaked, Angela.

Thank you. Happy to be here! Very excited to have you here.

Now, from each of you, I need a one-noise response

to the series so far.

Words will not be accepted. OK.

Angela, a noise, please.

ANGELA WAILS

Wilf? WILF SHRIEKS

I can see what sort of episode this is going to be.

LAUGHTER Oh, God!

Look, we've got a lot to get through, OK?

Because poor Lisa got biffed off overnight.

We had the statue mission,

which seemed to mess with the psychology of the group a little bit.

And there was also a lavish, if slightly awkward, dinner party.

Mm. But, as is the usual custom on Uncloaked,

let's start with the latest Round Table banishment.

I've loved every minute of it.

It's just my time, man.

It's the way the cookie crumbles.

Don't be afraid to get it wrong, because you'll never get it right.

I can reveal that I am...

♪ Cry me a river

♪ Cry me a river... ♪

...a Faithful.

Oh!

Brutal. Brutal! Yeah! So brutal.

I love that bit of philosophy, though, of,

"Don't be afraid to get it wrong, because you'll never get it right."

I think they know that by now.

LAUGHING: Yeah!

It was an interesting energy from Leon

the last couple of episodes, though,

because he was quite chirpy in the morning

and then ready to go on the attack at the Round Table.

And he's had that whole thing of the Death Match,

got into the coffin, seemed to emerge a completely different person. Yeah.

Zombie Leon, I'm calling him. WILF LAUGHS

Zombie. Well, yeah, it wasn't as if he actually had a,

like, life or death moment, like a flash before your eyes

where he decided to rethink his entire life.

Yeah. Because I thought initially, at the beginning of the episode,

there was a steeliness and a kind of,

like, vigour and energy that we hadn't seen in a few days.

But it dwindled over the course of the day.

Yeah, he got... Slowly, like, just changed.

The relationship between Leanne and Leon seemed to sour a little bit.

It was very awkward.

And they've had a good relationship up until this point.

Wilf, why do you think people still refuse to vote for people

they see as their friends in the castle?

Because this has taken ages to get to this point.

Yeah, it's a really strange thing.

I think what happens is, when you're there, you become friends,

and you know that you can vote together, so you end up,

like, keeping your friends next to you

because you don't want to vote them out,

because then you don't have that majority vote

against somebody else.

Interesting. So it's good to keep your friends in there

so you can all have, like, this voting power. So you can influence.

Yeah, you can influence your friends,

you can influence the vote together.

But also, I guess you've got to bear in mind,

while you're grouping with these people to influence the vote,

that one of them could be a Traitor.

One of them's lying to your face.

Yeah, one of them's lying to your face.

Yeah, but then they'll keep you in anyway, because the Traitor...

Like, if you're a Traitor and you've got people voting with you,

you're like, "Yeah, I'll keep these lot around,

"because then I've got power around the table

"as well as the power in the Turret."

So... do you know what I mean?

If you're voting with a Traitor, the traitor will keep you in.

Like, become friends with...

Say if you was a Traitor and I knew you was a Traitor,

I wouldn't call you a Traitor. Yeah.

I'd be like, "Yeah, I'm just going to be your best friend.

"Just keep me in." You'd stick with me, really?

Yeah, 100% I'd be like, "You keep me in till the end!" I'd kill you.

I would absolutely hammer you.

I do feel bad for Leanne and Leon, though,

because I think they were a really nice little team. Yeah.

So do I. I was struggling to come up with a team name for them, though.

All I got was Leanne or Leon.

Le-ON. Le-ON! LAUGHTER

Yeah, you just say Leon differently.

LAUGHING: Yeah.

Le-ON. Le-ON.

Jake is full of beans after the Linda banishment. Yeah.

But there's been very few moments like that in this series

of one person going, "I think it's this person,"

and then they carry it through and they're victorious.

And they push. Yeah, and they push for it.

And he did it from day one.

Season two, there was, like, 15 Traitors. Yeah.

So, do you know what I mean? Every week, they were finding the Traitor.

But now it's like that was a special moment,

because it only happened once or twice. Yes.

So Claudia then surprised the players with a dinner party.

I mean, as if they're not bad enough at the best of times. Yeah.

The most brutal Round Table -

"Guys, get your glad rags on!"

It was like, "Oh, my God, can I call in sick?"

Get off the Round Table, come and sit at the square table.

Yeah. Yeah. LAUGHTER

"My kid's not well" - you can't use that excuse.

I thought it was quite nice.

I thought, like, we've gone on this journey

with this group of people, and some of them, we don't know much about.

And we're like, "Mm, I'm not sure of that person."

And then you hear their story, you're like, "I like that person."

Yeah. Like Alexander, he's been amazing.

And then when he talked about his brother, like,

I lost my brother.

So then you're talking to the real people, then.

Yeah. You see the real version of themselves.

So that made me really like him, even though I liked him anyway.

But you get all these stories and you start to relate yourself. Yeah.

So, yeah, I really liked doing the table for that reason.

But then it's like, "Let's all have a beautiful dinner.

"Goodbye." Like then it's all just going to go...

It's the calm before the storm.

And then Minah and Charlotte have got to go up to the Turret

after hearing all of those stories and go, "Should I kill one of them?"

They looked all right, though, didn't they?

They genuinely did. They genuinely looked all right.

They were grand. There was one moment at the beginning

where they went, "Oh, God, all those stories.

"It was so nice. And now we've got to come back here."

And they were like, "Do you want to recruit?" "No, murder.

"Murder!"

And even Minah's now saying, "Oh, this is the hardest one."

Charlotte just went, "Oh, I'm just getting into it."

"I'm just warming up!"

Yeah, she's gleeful.

Yeah, she is absolutely loving it.

I feel so sorry for Minah right now.

I'm struggling for Minah,

because the thing is, when you're a Traitor and you've done it for

the whole time, and then somebody comes in and she doesn't even know

that Charlotte is thinking this, I just...

And she's like, "We're such a good team,

"I'm so glad that I brought her here.

And she's like, "Yeah, I can't wait to get rid of her." Yeah.

So Minah's given a performance review to Charlotte and said

that she's outstanding,

so let's remind ourselves of Traitor Charlotte in action.

I've got a one, two, three game.

You want to say a name after one, two, three? OK, we can do that.

One, two, three - Frankie. Minah.

Oh! I just said Frankie, though, I just said Frankie!

You mentioned to me Minah.

She's always been in my unsure category. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know.

I think, as a Traitor, it's so hard to trust Traitors.

But I can trust Charlotte.

I'd be honoured to be standing up there

with Charlotte at the final.

The three, two, one game is one of the most ridiculous things

I've ever seen in my life. It was so funny!

I screamed at the top of my voice.

Leanne going, "I've got a three, two, one game.

"Three, two, one - Frankie" And Charlotte going, "Minah!"

Yeah!

"Yeah, Frankie, yeah, yeah, yeah."

"Oh, actually, yeah, I did think Frankie, actually. Yeah, yeah."

She dropped Minah's name really quickly away, didn't she?

"Yeah, I thought about that as well, yeah.

"Forget about Minah, I didn't say that."

But I think maybe we should have seen Charlotte coming,

because as soon as she arrived, the first murder,

Anna, and she's like, "She's gone to a happier place."

She's like... She was just so joyful in the killing. Yeah.

Like, it's very much a game for her.

Whereas I think Minah, sometimes you see a little flicker of remorse.

And Charlotte's even been concealing from Minah when other people

have been saying her name,

which I thought was very smart. Is she still Welsh?

It's very smart. Because I'm not sure. She's never been Welsh.

Yeah, I know that, but...

The accent's completely gone, I think, isn't it?

No, it's still there. Because if you hear her speak

in her real voice, it's quite a posh English voice.

Yeah. So she's... It's just a very gentle Welsh accent.

I was expecting her to reveal it to Minah when she was recruited,

but I think that shows us that...

Well, see, I thought... Because you said that, "Why hasn't she told...?"

And I said, "Because she's going to nail her."

Yeah. Or it would be ammunition for Minah to nail Charlotte.

She's like, "By the way, that's not her real accent."

But imagine doing that, taking your hood off and going,

POSH ACCENT: "Oh, right. Anyway..."

She'd be like, "What, you're not even Welsh?!"

POSH ACCENT: "I do have one thing to tell you, actually."

But I think there might have been quite an awkward moment

where she's like, "I'm not even Welsh."

And Minah would go, "Sorry, you're... Welsh?

"You were pretending to be Welsh? I had no idea."

"It's quite a soft accent you've got."

Now on to the mission with the big heads.

Should we get it out of the way now, Wilf? Yeah, get it out the way.

I'm not going to look at anyone when I say this.

Obviously, the bodies of the statues looked quite interesting,

didn't they? In certain positions.

When he was holding it from the back. Yeah.

The angles, sometimes, did the statues a lot of favours.

It's a bit dodgy, yeah.

A lot. A LOT of favours, I would say.

They had to get the bodies and the heads up the hill,

and then the stone heads, they put on,

and one of them had a Shield on it. They had to make that decision.

I'm glad they put names on the heads, by the way, because

I wouldn't have recognised them from the statues. Yeah, same. Same.

The bodies, maybe.

Oh! I feel like I'm in school.

Like, I feel like I'm a child, I feel like I'm 12 right now.

They didn't decide at the start who was going to get the Shield.

Wilf, would you have decided at the start, maybe?

Because it got a bit messy, didn't it? Yeah.

I think it's better to just talk about it at the beginning,

because if you leave it to chance, especially if you're a Faithful,

you might not get it. Yeah.

So I thought Freddie did quite well, though.

At the beginning he was like,

"I got off the boat, I did this, I did that."

And he had quite an interesting theory for wanting the Shield.

Let's have a look.

Today, I'm going for the Shield because I haven't had one yet.

Before, I was a bit more content

because there was so much suspicion on me.

But now no-one's really saying my name,

so I'm like, "Bloody hell,

"I'm not really safe from murder any more."

So Freddie seemed to prefer it when he was under suspicion.

That's how mad the game is, that, when he was under suspicion,

he knew he wasn't going to be murdered,

as long as he could cling on for banishment.

But now no-one's talking about him as a Traitor,

he's worried that he's going to get murdered by the Traitors.

I kind of think I understand that, in that he didn't think

he'd get murdered because he was an easy target at the banishment.

So they'd go, "Do you know what? He'll be nailed tomorrow."

Whereas now, there is less heat on him, and he thinks actually...

So the Traitors might go, "Well, what's the point?

"He's not going to get banished. Yeah, get rid of him." Yeah.

And he is getting a bit stronger. I like Freddie.

I think there's a nice little bit of confidence coming in,

and he's potentially a big problem for Minah.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think, if he gets her, then he's...

He's a hero. ...potentially really strong. Yeah.

So we should have a chat about what we think

is going to happen next, because the Traitors have

narrowed it down to Joe, Jake, or Leanne to be murdered.

Which way do we think they're going to go?

I think Jake. You think Jake? I think they're going to go for Jake.

He's a strong player, even though his theories

are just eyes a lot of the time,

but I think they see him as a strong player.

And they did say he's a Traitor catcher. Yeah.

And he's caught his Traitor.

I think their point was that he's done. He's done his job.

Yep. He's done his job now.

This is all Charlotte using language about people like they're batteries,

just being like, "Yeah, he's used up now." Dead. All dead, dead. Dead.

Gone to a happier place. Yeah!

OK, it's nearly time to meet Leon and Lisa.

First, another juicy Uncloaked exclusive.

Here's what happened when they found out who the Traitors are.

Oh, my God!

Oh, angel.

Come and give me a hug.

Oh, gosh.

I'm really happy to see you but I'm not happy to see you.

OK, so I'm dying to know -

are you a Faithful or were you a Traitor?

I was...

...a Faithful.

Aw!

And all I tried to do was do what's best for all of us. Yeah.

What you said was telling in terms of Leon's love

for his family trumps everything.

But you lot are my family, and all I wanted to do was try and do

what's best for us. Yeah.

So who do you think are the Traitors?

Frankie, Alexander,

and Charlotte.

OK.

And you?

I was thinking that Freddie and Frankie were.

But I've changed my mind.

I still think Frankie,

but now I think Alexander.

I think there's only two in there at this present moment in time. OK.

So now's the moment. Are you ready?

My head's been bursting.

I need to know.

LEON CHUCKLES

OK. Yeah.

Minah.

Oh, my God!

So the weight of the world on her shoulders

coming to the table.

She's done a passionate plea in terms of,

she's a Faithful, she would never do that.

I just knew it was going to be something crazy.

This is what's scaring me now.

Her and Leanne came to me and told me they suspect Armani.

So do you think it could be both of them, Minah and Leanne? Yeah.

I think you're going to tell me that Leanne's on that list.

What did I say about Leanne at the Round Table?

Her confidence has grown.

Oh, my God.

So are you ready to find out the next one?

I don't think I am, but go, please. Please.

Here we go.

Charlotte.

Oh, my God.

What are these people doing?

So one out of two's not bad.

After I came out of the coffin,

the only person I felt I could really trust

and speak to was Charlotte.

I didn't get to have a proper conversation.

She got questioned by Armani two Round Tables in a row.

Yeah. I thought, "There's no way that Armani is doing that

"to a fellow Traitor straight away,"

so I thought, "You have to be a Faithful."

Maybe she was recruited when Anna said no.

But that makes sense in terms of just got to test the theory. Yeah.

But no-one would suspect her.

If she was recruited when Anna said no, no-one would suspect her at all.

Oh, my... Honestly, I can't see a way that they win this,

the Faithful. I cannot see a way. No, I can't.

They might get rid of Minah,

but with Charlotte in the mix, I can't see it.

Please welcome to Uncloaked, Leon and Lisa!

CHEERING

We are so delighted to have you both here.

Thank you very much for joining us.

We should get into it straight away and talk about your suspicions there

because, you know, you were circling around some of the right ideas.

You said Charlotte, Lisa. Yeah.

What was it about Charlotte that you suspected?

You know, she'd just been likeable, really, really nice.

And then, suddenly, she just...

There was something about her that changed. Mm.

She suddenly, really, really grew in confidence

and I was thinking, "That's a bit odd."

You know, you're suddenly this,

you know, come out of your shell and really sort of going for it.

And I thought, "I just don't trust you as much as everybody...

"Everybody really, really trusts you." Yeah, I did.

But you were saying you trusted Charlotte when you

came out of the coffin, she was the only person you trusted.

She wasn't a Traitor by that point. No, she... Yeah. Well...

I really love on Traitors that it's things like saying

someone really came out of their shell is an immediate negative.

Oh, yeah. Listen...

"She's so confident and happy in her own skin, so I thought..."

Somebody sneezed, somebody sneezes, and there's something wrong.

That's it, there's something wrong with them.

And when anyone starts to exude confidence, as you know,

in The Traitors, it's like, "Really?"

ANGELA: An invincible feeling.

Yeah, why do you feel so invincible?

But you were sniffing around them.

I mean, they did... They did well, nailing you.

Let's relive that moment now.

I've thought about Charlotte.

I voted for you at the first Round Table.

And since then, I thought,

"Wow, Charlotte's grown in confidence."

Where has that confidence come from?

Minah, I look at you.

Every time you come to a Round Table,

I feel like you've got the weight of the world

on your shoulders.

And that could be for one of two reasons -

being a Faithful, or you are finding

the pressure of being a Traitor really hard

and having to look at people that you,

you know, really care for and murder them.

You got two of them straight out the gate.

I think this was the moment you said to Leon, "You care about your family,

"so you might be a Traitor."

See what I mean?!

You're a nice, caring person, so I think you kill people.

I know! I know.

This is the whole theme of the series. Yeah.

Alexander came under suspicion from both of you as well.

Why did you suspect him, Leon?

When it's been put that someone

in the Death Match could potentially be a Traitor -

I know I'm Faithful -

Alexander already had that heat on him in terms of coming in late,

so you had people already kind of suspecting that.

But I thought, "It has to be him."

And you know what as well, just to add?

In that Death Match, I'm thinking to myself, like,

that's one point where I'm thinking, "I can't do this to Anna.

"Anna is stressing out." And that might be me being a good person

and looking after my family. But I thought...

At one point, it felt like it was me and Anna

versus Fozia and Alexander. Really?

That's what almost it felt like to me. Yeah.

I felt, Anna's card,

I felt I could have taken that from Anna.

And I let it go.

But just the way he was the calmest person in that Death Match,

I just thought, "There's something about him."

ANGELA: But I think people felt after the Deathmatch

that your kind of mood had changed.

It definitely did. Yeah. And why was that?

Is that because you were buried alive? That's pretty disconcerting.

At one point... everyone loves you,

and then you've been put in a game like that,

I'm thinking, "Someone wants me dead." Yeah.

So it kind of made me think, "Is it Leanne? Is it...?"

Even Jake. "Is it Jake?"

But, yeah, I just had to kind of take a step back and think,

"Who can I really...?"

But even that split second, even if you take a step back

for five minutes just to try and analyse the situation,

that five minutes, to people, is a reason. I know, I know.

Just that five minutes, people will be like,

"Oh, he's gone a bit weird." That's a thing.

I don't think anyone would argue that maybe lying down in a coffin

and then having to come out of a coffin is something

that wouldn't affect you. No, no.

You're one of the few people in the world who's come out of a coffin.

Alive, yeah. I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll take that.

ANGELA: Lucky man!

That amazing clip we saw of you there, Lisa,

like, absolutely getting Minah and Charlotte at the Round Table,

do you think that contributed to you being murdered that night?

Absolutely. Because, you know, they say in it, you know,

"She's more observant than we've given her credit for."

I kind of went in as Luna Lovegood's grandmother, really.

You know, a little bit airy-fairy,

"Oh, look at me, I'm just the old lady,

"I'm not really taking any notice of anything,

"and I'm just here in the background."

But, you know, watching people, I think it was like...

Yeah, I mean, Minah had always been kind of on my radar

but she was so well-liked, so popular.

And you'll appreciate this, Wilf -

when people are really, really well liked,

you've got to pick your moment to go against them, because otherwise,

people are going to instinctively turn on you and think

that you're trying to get rid of them because they're popular.

You have to be really careful.

I think, Lisa, you almost seemed quite attached

to some people as well. Like, you made friends in there

and I think it made it quite difficult for you to

go against those people. I did. Yeah.

I'm thinking specifically of Alex and Linda as well. Yeah.

Like, in episode seven, you got quite emotional

bringing up Linda at the Round Table.

Yeah, she's my pal, you know.

I really, really like her.

And, you know, this sounds really crazy,

I know I'm putting it out there,

but even in my heart of hearts, if I knew she was a Traitor,

when you're in there... There's a saying, isn't there?

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Now, I love Linda, I really do love her,

but there was a little bit of me that was thinking,

"Actually, I think you are a Traitor right from the get-go,"

even when Jake said.

But we got on so well and she was such a great friend,

and I thought, "Well, I'll just let this ride out, see where it goes."

"We're having a laugh."

"We're having a laugh, It's good fun,

"we're women of a certain age, you know, we understand things."

People don't understand the relationships

you can build in there. Yeah. I remember going,

"They're holiday friends, they're holiday friends.

"We'll say happy birthday on Facebook once a year."

Like, that was me. And I went in there, and all of a sudden,

I was just crying the whole time.

I was like, "They're all my real friends!

"They're not holiday friends."

ANGELA: Yeah! "They see me for me!" Yeah! Yeah, yeah. They see...!

You had a similar sort of thing, Leon, with Tyler?

Obviously there was the... I mean, I don't want to say it was a click,

because that caused some controversy,

but you were closer with Tyler than some other people.

Yeah, I love big T. I love Tyler.

Now I know that's just his personality.

Yeah. But you just saw little sly smiles here and there

when you're having conversations, you're thinking,

"He could easily be one."

But he was just loving life in there, wasn't he?

This is what hurt the most, because, like you mentioned

about friendships, you don't want to go against someone

and ruin someone's experience and then... But you had to play a game.

Yeah. And it's like, honestly, that's...

You know what? My biggest regret in this whole thing is Tyler.

Lisa, do you think you actually lasted so long in the game

because Linda was looking out for you?

I did think that there would be someone looking out for me,

and I did think it was potential... Aside from God.

Yeah, aside from the big man upstairs,

yeah, there was definitely someone, I thought, watching out for me,

and I thought... I was very grateful.

So that was really nice.

And I thought it could be Linda.

If it wasn't Linda, I wasn't sure who it was,

but I thought they were just protecting me for some reason.

Because I was kind of ineffectual.

I was playing this sort of, "Oh, I don't really know what I'm doing,"

so I wasn't really offending anyone or...

I think you were right to do that as well, because as soon as you started

throwing out those accusations around the Round Table, that was it.

Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah.

Now, Leon, we've talked about the suspicion around you

after you came out of the coffin,

but there was a little bit more suspicion in that vote

after the mission in this episode that you didn't vote for Joe,

you voted for Freddie, and then said,

"I didn't even know Joe was in the vote." Oh, my God.

100%, I assumed that it was between Frankie and Freddie. Yeah.

You know what? I need to go to the gym,

because obviously, that mission just done it all for me.

Because I was a mess. Horrible, yeah.

So when the question got asked to me, I was just like,

"Oh, just whoever's closest to me at the time, Freddie."

But then also, I thought, I'll use that to my advantage.

I thought, "If people are thinking it's Freddie, let's get Freddie out,

"regardless if he's got a Shield or not." I do...

You even said that on the episode, just after the mission, going,

"I've got to go to the gym because this is not a good look."

Oh, it's just...!

And you know what made it worse?

I'm there in that mission thinking, "Slow down.

"Leanne, are we all right? Shall we slow down? Shall we stop a minute?

"Are you OK?" All this time, she's like, bloody,

an army vet running up and down. So I'm slowing her down!

And she said that my nails look good as well, so it's like...

There's so many things about it. That's so funny!

In that mission, there was a little bit of controversy afterwards

because some people were talking about Leanne carrying

her own head up the hill.

Frankie was talking about it.

And then you told Leanne that Frankie was talking about it,

and that you were accused of being a bit of a stirrer.

Watching it back now, it seems like I'm just totally stirring the pot.

Totally, totally. But it's got so much different things going on

in your mind at the time, you're thinking,

"Is this the right thing to say? Should I say it now?"

But also, it was almost, like, last resort.

I knew, "If I don't do something, I'm going."

Yeah. I wouldn't say it was a tactic, but I just wanted to

make sure that it was in the aether, it was there.

Lisa, how have your congregation reacted to you being on a show

about treachery and lies?

That's a great question!

Do you know what? They've been absolutely amazing.

And I think it's really great because, you know,

I've had so much support from the congregations and they think

it's fantastic that they've seen that priests can go out there

and that we're just normal people. Yeah.

You know, we are flawed human beings, the same as everybody else.

And they're just excited that they know someone that's on the telly!

Was it very...? I mean, obviously, it was a conscious thought,

but to not reveal your collar straight off the bat?

I thought, a bit like Leanne, that if I told people in there

that I was a priest as soon as I went in,

I was going to have a target on my back straight away.

Because it would be an ideal opportunity,

"We'll have a priest as a Traitor,"

and it just seems such an obvious thing to do.

We've seen in previous series, when people hold something back

and then reveal it, they always get suspicion straight away.

What made you go, "I'm going to tell them I'm a priest"?

Because Leanne had got suspicions about me, and I'd had some

suspicions thrown my way. And I thought,

"Actually, I've had enough of this." And I thought, "Now is the time.

"If I reveal that I'm a priest, it may flip that the other way."

Makes sense. So that's why I decided at the time that I'm going to say,

"Right, I'm a priest and I can't...

"And this is why I'm being a bit flaky, because I don't like

"pointing fingers," and all that kind of thing.

So I thought I could actually flip it to my advantage.

And it worked. I thought you did it perfectly.

I thought so too. And even that awkward moment where someone said,

"Well, why did you come into the game if you're a priest

"and you can't lie?" And you came straight back with,

"What self-respecting murder mystery doesn't have a priest?"

I was just like, "Boof, see you later!

"Absolutely nailed it."

But it's true!

You look at any self-respecting murder mystery,

there's always a priest in it.

One of my favourite bits of the whole series so far is

the video of you cheekily pouring your hipflask into your cup of tea.

Oh, that was funny. Yes, yes.

ANGELA: I mean, I imagine you might need to take the edge off

every now and again. Every now and again.

Imagine, like, marrying people and going,

"Yeah, this ain't going to last but I've got to marry them.

"I've got to have a drink when I get home!"

I mean, I meant in the game, not in real life! Oh!

Sorry. "Ugh, a christening again today?"

Yeah!

Having that secret for as long as you did in there,

did it make you think other people had secrets?

Because obviously, we've got Charlotte pretending to be Welsh,

we've got Leanne pretending to be a nail technician.

This sounds so mad to say out loud!

It's so mad, innit? I was so...

And she didn't fix my nail!

I was so annoyed about that.

Did she have all her gear in with her?

Yeah, she said to me,

because I rarely have things like my nails done,

and I chipped a nail, and we were talking at one point

and I said, "You know, I've chipped my nail." And she said,

"Oh, I've got something that I can repair that with."

And I thought, "Oh, that's great." Yeah, gunpowder.

Yeah!

We saw everyone's motivations for winning the cash

at the dinner party.

But you two didn't get to do that dinner party,

you didn't get to tell us your motivations.

So could you tell us now, please?

Why did you want to win the money?

Can we start with you, Lisa?

Yeah, there's a particular charity that's very close to my heart,

that has helped my three sons, actually.

You're killing me here, Lisa.

I wanted to get a new shed.

Now, the chat continues in your bonus episode of Uncloaked

over on BBC Sounds.

That means more intel with Lisa and Leon,

more perspective from Wilf, and more chat from Angela Scanlon.

We're going to find out who Wilf would have murdered

and who he who he would have recruited out of this year's cast.

Plus we want to know what it's like coming out of such a huge TV show.

What kind of reactions have Leon and Lisa been getting

from their loved ones?

That's on Sounds right now. Have a listen on the way to work

before you and your colleagues make your final week predictions.

Just scan the QR code on your screen or search for "Uncloaked"

in the BBC Sounds app to find it.

And thank you to Leon, Lisa, Wilf, and Angela!

Join us for more Uncloaked after The Traitors episode ten.

The endgame is in sight.

I'm Ed Gamble. Stay Faithful.