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Happy New Year and welcome to The Traitors: Uncloaked,

the official visualised podcast hosted by me, Ed Gamble.

We are back and so excited

to get addicted to another series

of the best show on TV.

We'll be here after every episode to dissect all of the action

from the castle and to help us

we'll be joined by celebrity guests,

some familiar faces from series one and two

and of course, we get the exclusive first chat from the latest murdered

and banished players.

But before I say too much, spoiler alert -

if you haven't watched the first episode of series three,

then get yourself onto BBC iPlayer and do that now.

Coming up...

...Yin will be here to discuss being the first murdered player from the game.

We also have unseen footage of her surprising alter ego.

Plus, to dissect all the players

and our new set of Traitors,

I'm joined by Traitors super fans Emma Willis,

Babatunde Aleshe and winner of The Traitors series two, Harry!

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Welcome, Emma, Babatunde and Harry, welcome to Uncloaked.

Now, there's a lot been happening since the last series.

Diane became mother to the nation and was offered fizzy roses

left, right and centre... EMMA: Mm-hmm.

...jazatha Christie got his own radio show...

It was either that or start his own private investigators.

...and Harry, you and Paul started your own podcast.

Hmm. So why can't you stay in your own lane?

CHUCKLING: Yeah. THEY LAUGH

Before we get into it, I want one word from each of you to summarise

this first episode of the new series of Traitors.

We'll start with you, Harry.

I would say wow, but, like, not just the word wow.

You know, like, as in, like, a wow. A feeling?

Yeah. You know, like a... Yeah.

It's not like... QUIETLY: "Oh, WOW."

Not like a deep one, but like a real meaningful...

WITH EMPHASIS: "WOW."

Like, that was just, like, I ain't got words, basically.

So the answer is wow.

Yeah. THEY LAUGH

Could have just said that. Could have just said that.

Baba?

Uh, anxious because I want to see the next one, man.

Emma?

Um, EastEnders.

Hm. I love this.

Especially the sisters.

They're giving me major EastEnders vibes because I want to know

if either of them are going to rat each other out.

Yes. Ancl that will be so, like... HUMS EASTENDERS DOOF-DOOFS

Now, we've got a lot to talk about from that first episode.

Fake accents, fake jobs, hidden identities

and losing three players from the train

before they even made it to the castle.

That was brutal.

It's probably the harshest opening a series of the Traitors has had... Yeah.

But it leaves you guessing immediately.

Yeah. But we should start with the biggest headline

from our first episode.

We have an all-female Traitor line-up.

Shall we remind ourselves of the moment they discovered

one another's identities?

SUSPENSEFUL SYNTH DRONES

EERIE GASPING THEY CHUCKLE Oh, God.

Woman power!

Oh, my goodness!

Holy... Not a clue, mate.

No. Not a clue about either of you. Not a clue.

There we are.

It really is, it's woman power, this series, as Linda says.

CHUCKLING: It IS woman power.

Why do you think it's an all-female line-up?

Do you think... Why not, Ed? Why not?

No, but do you think maybe Claudia was...

And no offence, Harry. She had an eager to...

...eager to avoid some of the masculine energy. No, you can say it.

When she walked in and we'd recruited another Traitor,

I remember in my last series, she was like,

"Oh, it's just like olden times."

And I was just like, "Oh, my gosh." THEY LAUGH

I don't even know if she said that.

Ancl then it's funny now that they're all women Traitors.

Yeah. It's, uh, it's not a boys' club any more. Hmm.

Now, our Traitors have very different tactics.

Minah, very quiet, seems to be leaning into the role easily.

Do we think she could be the quiet and surprising assassin?

Yes. Yeah. Hmm.

I think she's got a good game.

Yeah. Mina. Yeah, she's playing it, pitching it perfectly, I think.

Now, Armani, I think, may be doing too much.

She's carved herself out as a leader of the pack. Hmm.

Did this remind you, Harry, of Paul's tactics, perhaps?

I would say Minah's sort of taking the same role on that I was doing,

you know, sort of letting someone think they're doing really well

and they're the leader of the pack, and they're,

cos now I think what she's doing, that Armani,

she's sort of trying to cover herself too much. Mm-hmm.

So she'll think that she's doing really good and no-one will think it's her.

But she's planting way too many seeds... Yeah.

...where Minah is sat back and just watching it all unfold.

So yeah, I would say in some sort of way, she's like a Paul.

There's the added complication of the fact that Armani's sister, Maia,

is in there, which, you know, Minah may be a bit worried that Armani

won't be able to separate herself from her sister in the game.

Hmm. How do we think that's all going to play out?

Cos they've obviously gone in there and said, "we're sisters."

I don't get why people do that, though.

Can I just say that for a fact?

It'd be hard not to. I mean, they kind of know.

But I don't know why you would go with your sister anyway. Oh, yeah.

I keep saying this to everyone.

Like in our series, we had obviously, um, Diane and Ross,

mother and son, like, why would you put that extra needed pressure

on yourself and not just go there and be yourself? Hmm.

But I think Armani's move should have been

to immediately kill her sister.

No. No. That's what I said! Straightaway.

Mm-hmm. That's what I said. Don't you think?

Watching. Because then all suspicion has gone from her as a Traitor... Yeah.

Who would kill their sister first round? Absolutely. Yeah.

That's the first thing I'd think, I'd be like, "|t's you.

"You're the Traitor, 100%."

Plus, I think her sister's clocked.

Oh, her sister's absolutely clocked. You think? I think so.

She knows. Yeah.

It's difficult to hide things from your siblings. She said, didn't she?

Like... She said she's moving weird.

Yeah, she's moving weird, she's talking weird now.

Yeah. I don't know why, but yeah, I mean,

this is the joy of the game. This is why it's so amazing,

cos everything could be a double bluff. Yeah.

So I would've said, you go in there, get rid of your sister straightaway,

then it's like, "Well, I couldn't have been a Traitor."

But then she's already crying at breakfast,

so then all it takes is one person to be like,

"You've clone that to cover yourself,"

and then they're straight back onto us.

So it's, that's the hardest thing...

I don't know how you do it. The pressure going in that game.

Yeah. I mean, well clone, Harry. Well clone. THEY LAUGH

For real. For all the hideous lies you told. THEY LAUGH

No, it's, I mean, it's brilliant, isn't it?

It's amazing to watch. That's why it's such a fantastic show

because it's just a brilliant game to watch.

Um, Linda, I feel like a slightly changed personality

since she was made into a Traitor... Yeah. Hmm.

Cos she'd sort of got a really nice, fun aunt vibe on the train. Yeah.

I would have loved to hang out with Linda. She did bat it off, though.

You know when he pulled her up on it right at the beginning,

she did kind of... I felt like she played that all right.

But at the Round Table, that's when she seemed to suddenly go, like,

lose her personality and almost like

she's paddling under the water in panic. I swear to God...

Trying to glide on the top just like, "Agh!" underneath.

That's how I would be, you know.

I'd be like, "Get off my back, leave me alone!"

I swear. Ancl then you start crying and go, "|'m a Traitor!"

For real.

Yeah, that's confirmed to me what I already know, Baba,

is that you would be an absolutely awful Traitor. 1 00...

I'm terrible at lying.

Now, we already know that the heat is on Linda already.

Oh, poor Linda! Poor Linda has already got

a bit of heat on her.

She dealt with it well, though, didn't she?

I don't know. Nah... This is what we should talk about.

Everyone's laughing! "What are you watching, Willis?!"

I thought she kept her calm.

She was calm. Yeah.

But I would say throwing it back

in the person who has accused you's face immediately,

it's like... Too soon. It's too soon.

Someone's going "I think you're a Traitor,"

going like, "Well, I think you're a Traitor."

That's not a good defence, I don't think.

I would agree, I would agree. That's the part, cos like you said,

she was very calm and I thought she was handling it very well

up until that point. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Because now that deflecting back onto him,

it's just like... that doesn't even make sense.

What do you mean? I'm the one that's accusing you.

What are you talking about? Now I'm suspicious of you.

Now I'm even more suspicious of you!

Yeah. You know what I mean? So, yeah.

Because I think the moment... You're right, the moment she said,

"Oh, I don't think it was anything.

"I was just looking because she was talking,"

is a perfectly good defence for that.

Even though I did watch back,

the moment where Claudia said Traitors... Like she had whiplash!

And she literally went, "Yes?"

She may as well have said "Here, Miss." Like, it was...

It was, it was properly obvious.

By the way, what an amazing play byjake to even spot that,

like, and call that out straight away.

Because also fair play to him too, because he could have been worried

he would have been murdered that night.

But then now he's also got the thing of

if he is murdered, everyone knows who it is. Yeah.

So he's sort of solidified his place now for a couple of clays at least,

cos he can't go, cos then it's too obvious.

But then now he's got an actual honest opinion

of why he thinks it's someone.

But if Linda could get enough votes to be banished,

it'd be the first time that a Traitor gets banished

at the first round table. That would be good.

It would be huge.

What impact would that have on the Faithful

and their mood towards the game?

Oh, well, they would just be singing for joy, wouldn't they?

They would be on a massive high.

The Traitors would be absolutely panicked beyond belief.

Yeah. I don't know what Armani would do. I'd be gassed if it was me.

If she was gone straight away, I'd be over the moon as a Traitor

that they've caught a Traitor straight away. Yeah.

Because the whole fact that now there's only two of us,

we can recruit... Well, maybe, who knows,

they might be able to recruit, but for the rest of the game,

now, everyone who had one inkling of it being something

becausejake's gone forward and said, "I saw her move her head,"

everyone's going to start saying, "Because you sneezed, it's you.

"So I need to go for you now.

"Because it worked for Jake, so it's going to work for me."

So as a Traitor, it's sort of like, well, you're going to be sweet,

smooth sailing for a couple of clays at least.

Do you find yourself, Harry, watching it now and not being in it,

do you find yourself being on the Traitors' side,

or are you rooting for the Faithful?

Obviously we've got another soldier in there.

We've got another military person. Yeah, I know.

I can't wait to see how that unfolds.

Yeah. They seem really cool.

But, yeah, look, I mean, I'm branded for life.

I've got a Traitor's tattoo and everything now,

so I'm going to be a Traitors' number one fan, like, forever.

So I'll always be on the Traitors' side, even though there is that side

of me that wants to be the only Traitor to have gone and won it,

so I don't know, yeah. So it's a 50/50 right now.

But of course I want the Traitors to win in the end.

Possibly the biggest surprise was suspicion rising on Nathan

after he suggested Linda could be a Traitor.

So let's have a look at how that went down.

It feels a bit strange to say,

"I've not said this to anybody, but I'm saying it now."

Yeah, because it's not me saying that I think she's guilty.

It's, if there was one thing that I could think of,

that would be the only thing that I could think of.

That's all I've got.

Genuinely, like...

So he pointed towards Linda as being a potential Traitor

as Jake had done.

And then everyone straight round wheeled round on Nathan.

Do we think it's because he's wearing his outdoor coat indoors?

He looks like he's ready to go anyway.

THEY LAUGH

That was such a rational explanation, though.

Yeah. But it backfired on him so badly.

Once people sniff blood, if someone does something,

they're like, "|'m going to leap on this.

"And then I'm hiding behind the other person who's making the accusation."

Like Kasim said, you know, seed of doubt.

And once you use the phrase seed of doubt,

that gets to people, doesn't it?

We've got loads of lies flying around.

And not just Keith saying that he'd lied to his wife for 30 years,

that he liked her spaghetti bolognese.

I love that as a pitch to be a Traitor. Lovely Keith!

Leanne is an ex-soldier,

but pretending to be a nail technician.

Do we think this is good game play?

Is this your fault, Harry? This is what I want to know.

Do people in the Traitors' castle not trust

members of the armed forces anymore?

Yeah. I was thinking that when she said, "No-one would trust me

"if I told them I was a soldier."

I was like, oh, gosh, I hope that's not because of me.

It's 100% because of you.

Yeah, but, no, I think it's a great idea.

Obviously, I didn't do that.

I wish I had said I was a nail technician, but I probably

would have messed up somewhere along the line.

But, no, I think what she's doing is very clever.

Like, I sort of had that same sort of game plan.

Mine was sort of act, act like you're the youngest,

sort of dumbest sort of vibes, like, don't really know what's going on.

Which was my whole play in the turret.

I knew exactly what was going on all the time, so I was ahead.

Ancl that seems what she's doing. So I hope it goes well for her.

Ancl obviously she was a soldier too,

so I'm going to be supporting her the whole way.

We should discuss Charlotte quickly.

Her thinking behind it, I think, is that Welsh

is a more trustworthy accent.

You know, she's got a little secret from everyone else.

But what I would say is, in the history of Traitors,

there's been two Welsh people in there before,

and they have both been Traitors. Yeah!

It's not worked. So, like, as a result of Andrew and Amanda,

I don't trust Welsh people anywhere now,

let alone in the Traitors Castle. I really don't get this.

I've got to put it out there, like, the people...

Pretending to be a Welsh accent, what's the point?

Cos as soon as you're under pressure and you wake up tired,

you're not going to wake up as soon as someone wakes you up from a nap

and be like, "Oh-ah!" Like Welsh.

Or however you say... How would a Welsh person wake up?

Harry, that was amazing, this whole time... "How would a Welsh person wake up"?!

You know what I mean... This has blown my mind.

This whole time you've been pretending not to be Welsh?

No, but I'm trying to say, like,

you're not going to wake up and be Welsh.

You're going to wake up and you're going to be like a Londoner

where you're from. You're going to speak like where you're from.

So I just don't get why people keep putting

this added pressure on top of themselves.

Because as soon as you're under a high pressure situation

and you're hiding stuff and you're lying,

as soon as someone finds that out, it's like, well, bang, you could...

If you lie about that, you can lie about being a Traitor

and then you're a target straight away.

So I don't know why people do it.

And of course, we have lovely Lisa, our Anglican priest,

who's keeping her identity on the down low.

As a viewer, I'm sat there thinking, I bet I'd be able to tell

she was a priest, even if she wasn't wearing the dog collar.

Why?!

She's got big priest energy.

That's a fact.

Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Cos as soon as she took her dog collar off...

She still looked like a priest. ..she still looked like a priest.

And then, now she's wearing... she's wearing a crucifix,

she's like, "I've got to put something around my neck."

And didn't she say "As God is my witness" at the Round Table?

She did. Yeah. Yeah.

Now, there are some other great players in the game.

We're very excited to see their journeys.

We've got the barber, Tyler, who's an old soul.

Oh, yeah. He loves musicals and bird watching.

And also, he needs to stay for a bit, at least until

all of the people whose portraits are at the top are murdered.

Because he's the one who has to get them down.

We've got Keith, obviously, professional window cleaner.

As opposed to an amateur window cleaner.

It's good to get that ironed out.

And jack. Now, we need to remember jack,

the mullet-wearing market trader who got off the train early.

Yeah. What's happening there, Ed?

What's happening? Well... Come on.

It was a huge twist. That's why we're here.

A huge twist for the first episode.

So let's remind ourselves of that moment.

CLAUDIA: Listen very carefully to what I'm about to say.

My God, I'm shaking.

Right now, there are 25 passengers on this train,

but there are only 22 spaces in the game.

So for three of you, your journey is now over.

Oh! That's quite good, isn't it?

It's very good. It's brutal, though.

Yes. It really is.

How would you have felt if that had happened to...

I was not getting off that train.

There's no way, man. There's no way.

I would have just sat there and... Look, we've not even got 10K,

so I would happily just let the 10K...

Ancl if we all turn up at the castle, what's Claudia going to do?

She's going to have to think of something else.

Like, we're all, if we all stay here...

Yeah, 25 of us, we're going to have to start the game at some point.

So, yeah, I would not have got off the train.

It's one of those things, though, isn't it,

where I would be thinking, is it a double bluff?

Yeah, I'm totally with you.

I would get off because I would think that it is a double bluff.

But as far as we know at the moment, they just got off the train

and the train left, and we're never going to see these people again.

Fozia, jack and Alexander have got off the train...

Nah, we're definitely going to see something.

You reckon? Yeah, 100%.

Oh, I think jack is too fantastic to go. They've not disappeared.

I think they're all proper characters, aren't they?

It'd be a real shame if we don't get to see them.

It would be brutal, though. THEY LAUGH

If we don't see them. Four people gone on clay one.

Like that, "Bye, Baba! Bye!"

I feel like this one's going to hold so many twists and stuff,

we just don't know it yet. Cos that's the first,

the final's already changed,

four people have gone on clay one,

so what else is going to happen? It's crazy.

So I think we've just about covered everything from the launch episode

except for our first murdered player.

We have a fantastic exclusive clip of the moment Yin discovered

who the Traitors are and met the first banished player.

But I'm afraid you're going to have to wait until

the next episode of Uncloaked for that.

For now, let's remember why the Traitors decided to murder Yin.

I think we're going to have to kill off Yin.

She's just got too much brains.

Yeah, yeah. And I just see it being a big pain in the arse.

Yeah, we can't afford to let that risk grow.

OK, I'm with you.

Our first murder, girls. THEY GASP AND LAUGH

And she's here with us now. Welcome, Yin!

CHEERING

I never thought I'd be referred to as a pain in the arse.

I just... That phrase did not cross my mind.

How did it feel watching it back and hearing that

they chose to murder you because you are smart?

It must be bittersweet.

Yeah, it's...it is. Very devastating still.

But I think the funny thing is,

I honestly don't think I came across as that smart,

having now seen the episode.

I think, if anything, I looked confused.

Like, a lot of shots of me were just like...

I was just like very perplexed, right?

Ancl that was deliberate.

I will say that I'm not a good analyst of my own,

I guess, articulation and howl hold myself.

I can't really assess that very well.

Ancl so I must have missed out on signals I was sending through

even how I put sentences together,

the words I was using, for example, must have given away

that intellectual side of it.

Well, it wasn't even just the words you were using.

Oh...! Keith said at breakfast, "She was clearly smart.

"She was reading the books in the library."

Yeah, I... THEY LAUGH

Right. I... Yeah, I know...

That was your fatal error, was picking up a book in the library.

Clearly. But that trap was set for all the players.

I think even Harry had to read a book at some point

in the library.

A Shakespeare one, right? Shakespeare? I had to find it.

Trust me, I've never read a book in my life. OK.

Except from Biff, Chip and Kipper.

My biggest tip - do not read books in the library.

Honestly, avoid the library.

Now, also, you said you can tell a lot by the way someone dresses.

Do you want to... Absolutely.

...give a quick analysis of what I'm wearing today?

You are casual, but you also want to project a certain, like, uniqueness.

It's... You've got a combination of like that jacket

with the dark trousers and the boots.

So you're absolutely stylish, but the casual vibe is very obvious.

So the goal is to make us feel comfortable,

as if we're in a sitting room having a nice little chat

about a murder mystery drama.

She's got me. I... Something like that.

Do me, do me. Because it's about communication, you see.

Right? This is a show about communication.

Ancl through the portraits themselves that are in that room,

breakfast room, and how you dress for clay one especially,

you communicate more through those two things, I believe,

than through what you say or do in that first clay, right,

where there's so much chaos and noise and so many...

25 people this year, that's a lot of signal from different people.

But I think how you've chosen to package yourself, the colours

and what you're wearing in terms of, is it a dress, a suit,

is it slouchy, is it sharp-edged?

It gives a lot away.

Ancl sometimes it's what you want to be perceived as,

like Leanne with the Barbie look.

In other cases, I think Dan had a really interesting one where,

like you, Ed, he had like a jacket, but also very fancy dress shoes.

So casual ancl like super formal in the same look.

Like, huh. It was interesting.

Do you think you would have been able to tell

if you'd been at a breakfast and everyone coming in,

do you think you could have picked out a Traitor

by what they'd chosen to wear that morning?

Uh, nothing's 100%, but I would have been

able to increase my suspicions, I think.

I think... Or decrease. The opposite is as useful, right,

to be able to rule people out a bit

is as useful as increasing suspicion. I think so.

Talking of the Traitors,

how did you react to finding out who they were?

Because that must have been a big moment for you. It was.

I was absolutely shocked.

Which actually proves that I think murdering me wasn't the best move

because I had no idea.

So I viewed the entire thing as,

I'm going to have this spectrum of trust,

like your Scoreboard Of Suspicion

from the previous time you did Uncloaked. Yes.

We're no longer using the Scoreboard Of Suspicion,

but thank you for watching the first series.

OK. Excellent to hear.

Uh, in spite of that, Yin is a very stubborn individual.

So I basically had this idea in my head that I would calibrate

visually on my wall relative levels of trust

I had in every other player.

I had Post-its, basically, and they were colour coded.

So I think I had one colour that was like, um, if it was yellow,

I had some inteL

I had interacted with the person enough to be able to put them

somewhere on that spectrum.

Ancl if it was green, I didn't have enough intel,

so they were kind of in the neutral zone, right?

So I would, I would shift the positions of those Post-its,

which had people's names on them, to reflect the latest state.

Ancl that was... It was, time was the key thing.

I'm gutted you went so early because this is...

Cos you talked about having a narrative... Yes! Oh, yes.

...that you wanted to play out and you've got all these Post-its.

I mean, I would have loved to have seen how that worked out.

Oh, thanks, Ed.

That's a lot of thought going into everything.

I was about to... My brain doesn't shut down, sadly.

Harry, did you think that much? I'm so happy I was a Traitor

so I could just go to sleep.

I knew what was going on, and I knew who was a Traitor and who wasn't.

So I could just sit there and go to sleep.

I didn't have to do all the Post-it notes and that.

I'm so sad for you that you came up with all this brilliant stuff...

I know! ..and then got to the end of the first day and went,

"Oh, no. They've done me.

"I bought 8,000 Post-it notes. What am I going to do with these?"

I also bought 51 kg of luggage.

THEY LAUGH

Yeah, they booked me an extra suitcase.

Ancl can you imagine me, two massive suitcases,

two carry-on shoulder bags, trying to get to the airport?

It was hilarious.

That's incredible. The poor taxi man had to, you know, help out.

Oh, it was amazing though. But the reason I did this was

because, again, going back to the first sartorial point,

I wanted to be able to weaponise

and communicate through the clothing that I was wearing and accessories,

my whole scarf collection, ten pairs of shoes, etc.

That was all deliberate, because you can communicate so much more

through that than through the actions and words I would say,

or at least as much, right? That's why I had the arsenal prepared.

It was to have full flexibility of communication. The arsenal!

Well, let's just take a moment to think,

to think about the outfits we lost.

Yin, would you have liked to have been a Traitor?

Absolutely. I think I referred to it as, um, a Trait-fuL

As in, I want to be a Trait-ful

if given the possibility.

Which basically means a Traitor who has convinced herself so fully

that she's a Faithful, that she's an excellent Traitor.

Because you have to believe the story that you're telling yourself.

I wanted that narrative control. That was it.

But we heard on the grapevine that you had a bit of an alter ego

in the castle, and we've got the receipts to prove it.

Oh. You're all in for a treat here. This is absolutely fantastic.

Let's have a little look.

# Are you Faithful or are you Traitor?

# The signs are subtle

# I'm so unsure... #

# It's raining lies

# Hallelujah! It's raining lies

# Every specimen... #

Long, short, strong and weak.

# Rough and tough and full of Traitor speak! #

EMMA: Well done.

Fantastic.

So many questions, Yin.

Are these... Are these songs that you'd pre-planned

before you went in, or were you just riffing?

Both, both. They... So they come to me.

I think communication is these clays quite boring and not as playful

and whimsical and joyous as it can be.

Ancl so one way I try to increase what I communicate,

the information and emotion that comes out is through singing, right?

Ancl also obviously the clothing point, discussed previously.

Ancl so the whole point of this was my game play was actually

to bring some of these musical treats into the castle itself.

But they came to me throughout my time in Scotland.

They just... The words just came because they were the only way

to capture how I was feeling in the moment about the experience.

Well, we've got a little task for you if you're up for this.

Do you think you can write lyrics to the Traitors theme tune?

Oh, the... HUMS THEME TUNE

That one. We'll give you a bit of time if you're up for it.

And then you can perform it for us on the BBC Sounds

bonus episode of Traitors Uncloaked.

How do you feel? I'd love to. Yeah? Yeah.

Result. I can't wait for that.

OK.

Now, Yin, you witnessed the first twist of the series.

The train turning around en route to the castle

and three players having to get off.

What was it like in the carriage when Claudia announced that twist

over the tannoy? Uh, paranoia, I think.

Everybody went into fight or flight, aka amygdala or Systems 1 mode.

I had predicted that everybody would be self-preserving

and that we'd have to work out some horrible way of kicking

or literally defenestrating someone, like, out of the window.

That's what I thought. That's what I thought, yeah.

At least one carriage would have done like

a straw-drawing system or like a ballot. Yes, or, just,

everyone gives a three-second speech and whoever's speech is the worst,

like something horrid like that, right?

I was not expecting that every carriage

would have a carefully placed, self-sacrificing,

like, Virgin Mary type figure.

Like, I honestly had no... did not anticipate that.

That was the shock to me.

But it was everybody going into that panic mode, the fight or flight,

I have to preserve myself.

I've only just got on the train after so much, so much time spent

preparing for this experience,

and then to just have to leave the train, just like that.

Yeah. I mean, how would you have felt, Harry?

I said I weren't leaving. There's no way. Yeah, yeah.

I'd be holding on to the doors like that.

They'd be trying to drag me off. Exactly.

Now, of course, the big question is,

did you have any idea that Charlotte was faking her Welsh accent?

No, I believed it.

Hook, line, sinker.

Yeah. Again, like, am I really that smart?

Like, I honestly, I just... I believed it.

Ancl you know why I believed it? I'll tell you why.

She was wearing the most, like, comfortable, cutesy outfits.

Again, it was the clothing.

Well, the first clay she was wearing, like, these overalls

and, like, a pink jumper with flowers.

Crochet flowers on it, I believe.

Ancl then she had the sheep, the second clay in the blue, so...

You're like, "She must be Welsh, she's got a sheep on her jumper."

Yeah. I just, I thought like given her outfit choice as well,

it just fit that whole, that whole, um, theme.

But also I think Elen was convinced. Yeah.

So I would outsource my answer to Elen.

Was it difficult to, urn, like be yourself,

like straight after people were picked to be Traitors?

Like, how easy was it for you to just kind of, like, get on and...

Act normal. Yeah, act normal, yeah. Act normal?

I think the entire game, for me, that whole experience, I felt

more authentic than I am outside this context

in real life, which is crazy.

Like to friends and family and colleagues, I have to put on,

project and perform a certain version of Yin.

But, the version of Yin, I guess the Yin-verness version of Yin,

if I can use that pun on my own name,

was what you saw there.

Even that singing, it's more expressive

of how I actually am on the inside.

So to answer your question, there was, there was no...

I wasn't putting anything on.

I was just behaving as I was.

There's a world somewhere where you had an absolutely

incredible game of Traitors and romped right to the end

because you're fantastic, Yin, we're going to miss you very much.

A massive round of applause for Yin. What an incredible player.

Oh, thanks, Ed. Thank you. Thank you. Very kind.

Well, sadly, we've run out of time here.

But don't worry, the chat will continue on BBC Sounds.

We're going to put Yin's doctorate to good use

and get even more intel on the players.

And don't forget she'll be performing her version

of the Traitors theme tune.

Plus, we'll be making our predictions on

whether the Traitors or the Faithful

are going to win this series.

It's all in the bonus episode of Uncloaked

in your BBC Sounds app right now.

And if you think you can make it further than the train journey

to the castle, then maybe you've got what it takes

to make it on the next series of The Traitors.

Yes, series four is happening.

Head to bbc.co.uk/takepart to apply.

We'll be back again after episode two

to unpack all the latest goings-on in the castle.

But if you can't wait another day,

both the second episodes of The Traitors and Uncloaked

are available to watch now on BBC iPlayer.

A massive thanks to Emma, Babatunde, Harry and Yin for joining me

and thanks to you for watching too.

I'm Ed Gamble. Stay faithful.