All language subtitles for The Traitors - UK - S02E10 - Uncloaked_en

Hello Traitors lover and welcome to the last in this series of The

Traitors: Uncloaked. I am here reflecting on all of our finalist on

that big climax. If you haven't watched the final I am about to ruin

your life. This is the biggest spoiler alert ever. So go and watch

it and find it on iPlayer when you -- find us on iPlayer when you are

done. Claudia Winkleman can talk about her actual show so she is here

to do that. And we reflect on that final round table vote. And that man

of the moment, our crowned Traitor Harry is here for his first-ever

interview. For yourself a fizzy rose, kick back, because this is The

Traitors: Uncloaked grand final! -- pour yourself.

APPLAUSE What a finale and he had finally

exhale after holding her breath for four weeks, it's only

four weeks, it's only auntie Claude. Welcome. You say I am allowed to

talk about it but I'm not sure we should. What would you like to talk

about instead? I made a smashing omelette which I am happy to talk

everybody through. It made me very nervous. I talked to you. You were

asking me what happened. I was, like, I can't talk about it. We go

off. We do this extraordinary thing with our unbelievable cast and

brilliant crew. And the best producers. And everybody. And we

make this little thing and then we aren't allowed to talk about it and

it just feels like this perfect object and then, yeah, people watch

it, and it is weird. You are almost saying that people watching it

spoils it for you? It's not perfect. If it was up to me, yeah, we were

just have a nice break. A holiday where there are murders and

banishment and things like that. Yeah. The first series was a smash

hit so the anticipation for this series was through the roof. Which

was disgusting. K. When we did the first one, which we didn't think

would do well. I have a pair of fingerless gloves, a ceremonial

pouch, I phoned my husband and I said, it's all over, but I've had a

good run and we always knew it would end so never mind. When that did

well. I said to the bosses at BBC, like, let's just leave that.

Because, like, we can't do it again. It's like that perfect first kiss.

You are, like, let's not do that again, let's just... I said let's

not do it again. They said no, we have to do it. I'm not just saying

it because I'm looking at all of them, but we had this brilliant cast

who shared their smarts, their humour, their love for each other. I

am incredibly protective of them and I would just say for anybody

watching it is super easy to watch and know what you do. And it is not

easy when you are in the castle. Definitely not. It is easy to play

along with these things at home. Yes, when you know... It's Paul!

Yeah, OK. It is like watching Columbo and saying, I know who the

murderer is. They show you at the beginning, idiot.

CHUCKLES You are emotionally attached to all

of the cast. I am! Who went on the biggest emotional journey, do you

think? Oh, I think everybody did. We just watched the final. The people

we were in the room with, I just adored. And it was just...

Fascinating, and come anyway, I was incredibly proud of them. I am still

livid Sonia left so early and Aubrey, so I would like them to take

part next year, if that's all right? -- Sonja. Put them in at the end so

they have more chance. They are here! I was fascinated by everybody.

It is like choosing favourite children. I adored all of them. I

thought Ross throwing a rose into his mother's grave was a moment I

did not foresee and I am wearing a Supremes T-shirt because I was

obsessed by both of them. Absolutely obsessed. When they first arrived...

I am in a room upstairs getting fully

fully oranged by people. I'm, like, everywhere, back of my legs! I

watched them and as they arrived I thought there is just no way he is

not going to call her mum. He didn't and it was amazing. But it was

incredible. You thoroughly entertained us all over again.

Thanks for another amazing series. Let's enjoy some of your highlights.

Oh, no. Get in the castle. Off you go. It's time to our very first

banishment. I am going to be honest, this is my favourite bit. Will they

catch a guilty Traitor? Or banish an innocent Faithful? I knew it. So

obvious. At the roundtable there is nowhere to hide. The green boat is

now doing its a fifth circle. Diane! Everybody will turn up to breakfast

tomorrow. A Traitor cannot kill a Traitor. Another man? Just like the

olden days. I'm waiting for you with my twin! That was close! Dearly

beloved players, we are gathered here today not just to win gold but

also to say farewell to one of you.

Does anybody have any final words? It's going to get quite sticky.

APPLAUSE

Now, ladies and gentlemen, please give them a warm welcome, it's our

finalists! APPLAUSE

Welcome, guys. We will be talking to Harry very shortly but the drama

started early at that roundtable with Evie's banishment. Then there

was the small matter of easy finally finding out who the traders were as

she was whisked away from the castle. -- are the Traitors. I have

just been banished. It is difficult for me. I knew I was going to be

walking into a bunch of people who would put my name down. Throughout

the day I realised the likelihood of my name being up there was high. It

was like walking up to my own guillotine.

CHUCKLES I think Andrew or Jas could be a

Traitor. Lots of people have scrutinised them already. I think

Mollie could be too. She could be one of those stones we have looked

under. She has got through relatively unscathed. If Harry has

managed to get to the very end and has managed to be a Traitor when he

looks so much like a Faithful I've just got to applaud him at this

stage. I am dying to find out who the Traitors are.

I am so surprised by Harry because I feel... I feel equal parts proud,

equal parts so annoyed because I've just had a conversation with him and

said he was 100% Faithful or thought he was, anyway. Oh, my God. He has

played such a good game. And... Oh, my God. And he got all of those

Traitors out, as well. Oh, he did so well. Andrew I feel like has done

pretty well to get to this stage anyway because Andrew had a lot of

scrutiny on him. Lots of people were looking at him. Diane was looking at

him. She went in hard for him. I just can't believe that. I can't

believe that. Oh, my God. I have had so many conversations with these

people where we've been like, it is so difficult, the Traitors, and it

has been them! Wow.

Evie, well done. Absolutely fantastic game. First of all, that

is a great audition tape for Come Dine With Me. Did you have any

suspicion of Harry ever? I could sit here and I could be, like, I knew,

of course, yeah, I was keeping him sweet but it would be a lie because

I had absolutely no idea. I had a massive blind spot with Harry. I

think you did an amazing game and most people agree with that. He did.

His shield deflection pitted you and Jasmine against each other. Was

there any thought amongst any of you that may be that whole shield thing

was a total ruse and a double bluff? I think what happened, after me and

Jasmine went so hard at each other at that round table I got swollen up

into the emotion. I managed to go through most of the programme

without getting tangled up in any drama. But that was it for me and I

spent that whole last day thinking about how bad I felt. And I wasn't

thinking about anything else. Trying to convince people when you are in

that emotional state isn't going to work and I don't think there was any

changing of the tide. I thought I was a goner. You are doing yourself

a bit of a disservice because you are one of the best players at

keeping your emotions in check. Especially when things were directed

at you because you spoke logically and clearly. You weren't getting

upset. I think that is part of the reason you lasted for so long. I

think I agree with you but on that day I felt guilty because Jasmine

was strong as well. She was articulate at the table. The thing

that upset me was two really good players going at each other and...

Unfortunately there were two other players just staring at us. Not

saying anything! You suspected Paul. A few people did towards the end.

Obviously there was that moment at the funeral where Paul was saying

that Diane had told him that Miles was possibly a Traitor and then he

brought it up at the roundtable and you said you didn't hear Diane say

that at all. I had nothing. On social media you have since said

that you did hear that. What happened was when we were walking

down, there was the three of us, Diane was saying it has to be Miles

if I am dead. There were a few times where Paul got her to repeat it and

emphasise it and I thought... I already had suspicions on Paul after

the dungeon because if you are going to banish Meg based on that theory

why won't we looking at Paul? I think that walk, that final walk to

the coffins, that really solidified it for me because I thought, you

know, you've done it. It was you! When we got to the roundtable I

thought he would use it to look like a hero and I thought, I cannot let

you have it. I would like to say it was strategic but I think it was

actually based on pettiness. I thought, I'm not going to let

Diane's last words make you look like a hero. Pettiness is one way to

play the game. Claudia, what did you think of the game Evie played? I

thought you played absolutely brilliantly. Also, everybody

wanted... They would come to you and use you as a sounding board and you

were close with everybody. And you knew. You voted for Ash before

anybody else. You voted for Paul before anybody else. You knew. I

also started describing you as the Zak Whitbread because there was a

moment where he was, like, I cannot stop thinking... You were, like, OK,

I will come a good idea. Can you settle something, are you related to

Charlie? I am not. If I was I would be totally happy with that. Charlie

is a top tier babe, I love Charlie, but I think it would be absolutely

wild for the producers to put two people who didn't know they were

related on, as well. Next series it might be a whole family. Exactly. We

need to turn our attention to one of the most dramatic bits of the

endgame, the moment Andrew went for Harry.

I believe Harry has been a great Traitor from the start. He is

obviously leading the Traitors. No coincidence he has known

step-by-step what to do throughout the whole process. That was kind of

random.

Andrew, absolutely amazing. What an amazing game you played. Delighted

to have you on the show. What were you thinking in the endgame? To turn

on Harry was a big moment for you. What made you decide it to do it

then and the way you went about it? Harry had so much influence over the

team. Nobody ever suspected him, questioned him, not at the

roundtable. You've got to try and play a game. You've got to get

enough people. It is a numbers game. You've got to get enough people

before you try to go for somebody otherwise you cast doubt on

yourself, put your head on the chopping board. But obviously nobody

was talking about Harry so it was difficult and I thought I had

nothing to lose at the end. I went for it. Looking at it I went a bit

late. Upmost respect for that guy he played an amazing game. He's a

brilliant guy. I left it too late, I think. I don't think you ever

trusted him. The moment you were recruited you went in and said,

well, you guys are going to throw me under the bus. It was a great moment

because they thought, we've messed up. They said, trust us. Or Paul

said, trust me. Yeah, OK! That's going to happen. Is it fair to say

that you were a reluctant Traitor to start with, but then you found your

feet and got into the swing of it? I'm not sure. I wasn't the best

Traitor. I found it difficult to change from a Faithful to a Traitor.

Before the game I thought I could do both, no problem, but when I had the

choice I found it really hard and it was really hard accusing people of

lying when you know they are telling the truth. My insides were turning

thinking, Ross, for example, that one was horrendous. And Evie at the

end, I found it ready difficult. I think you did get into the swing of

it a little bit because things like elusive-gate. Never

I would never say elusive. You are thinking on your feet. To be able to

do that quickly. In the breakfast as well when Harry said I'd actually

got the shield and, you know, Zack was saying I must be a Faithful

because I knew about it, and you said, I knew about it. Follow the

herd. You are getting in there and you got into the swing of it. Harry

kept calling me a baby Traitor. He was teaching me well. Claudia, what

did you think of Andrew?

Lots of people said you were the rug because you love being Faithful.

Ross didn't fancy do that but when you're chosen to be a Traitor, you

go in and you are like... And on to find out! Paul Mosley, it's right,

you're us! Parrie was like, welcome to the dark side. They both looked

at each other, and that's not who you wanted to be, but he did it well

and I loved it when Evie was sad. He almost threw the game away. I did

feel bad because I knew she was telling the truth. Taking away

somebody's opportunity to win money for the family. You do feel a bit

guilty, it's still hard. What you have preferred to stay Faithful

throughout the game? I've done the full experience. Probably one of the

only people who had done everything. The challenges apart from the one I

got locked in a dungeon. I was a Traitor, Faithful, cut to the end

game so I've done everything. It's like going to Disney and going to

all the rides. Also running the rides as well. I enjoyed the whole

thing, I wouldn't change a thing. At the dinner -- not the dinner party

said you felt like you never celebrate your own achievements cups

of credit, do you feel you can finally give yourself credit? You go

the final game of Traitors, that's amazing. You're making me cry again!

I struggle for 20 odd years, I'm always pushing myself, for the first

time in a long time I felt proud of where I got to come I didn't think I

would get that far. To get as far as I did, especially with that scrutiny

on me. I am quite proud. Let's all celebrate under an hour, round of

applause for Andrew. APPLAUSE

-- celebrate Andrew now. Still to come, King Traitor Harry's first

interview about his big win, plus we'll be hearing Mollie's reaction

to that final end game vote. But first, further processor has been

one common reassuring essence of the roundtable, full of wisdom and

crucial insight, just like Yoda except if everyone ignored Yoda. It

is the exclusive unseen moment that Jaz found out Harry was a Traitor.

Mollie was a Faithful. Harry is a Traitor. Oh, my god! I was right! I

was right! Harry is a Traitor. How many Traitors quiz might lost count.

Paul, Andrew and Harry, four Traitors. What do I get for that?

Could I take that Tiger table home with me as a gift? That has just

made me feel so much better, and absolutely over the moon. Harry was

a Traitor. Oh, my days. Harry has got away with it. That is incredible

tekkers. APPLAUSE

Listen to that.

Listen to that. Now, sorry you couldn't take the tip or away but we

decided to make up a little version. Yes! I'm going to leave it here.

Nice one. How does it feel to have had the nation behind you for the

whole week? To be honest, you just don't expect it. I don't even have

Twitter, I was getting screenshots of people sending me tweets and I

was like, what? Koyes Wagatha Christie? I had to google who

Wagatha Christie is. And I saw this woman who sold -- Salt 60 detective

cases and I thought, oh, my God. To be honest, it's been amazing. People

have been messaging me, like, you need to win, you need to get Harry.

I thought, you know what, I do need to get more, but it was... When

you're in the game, you just don't know, do you? You don't know if you

are barking up the right tree. You can on trust certain people. So

getting all the responses has been incredible, absolutely incredible.

From a viewing perspective we can see you putting it all together,

working it out, getting it right. But it's that last hurdle that you

need to get over when you're in there to actually voice that can get

it out there. That's obviously the hardest bit because you don't know

if you're right. I think with this type of game, it's always about

getting the balance right. And the end goal is to get as far as

possible, so when you're trying to get as far as possible, everything

changes. In a split second. Claudia could come and give us a big massive

bombshell, the result shield or someone will talk, at every single

opportunity you have to find -- fine tune for you need to apply the

balance. And I thought that being a libre I would be good at balancing.

I tried, but every little moment, is not about being too loud or acquired

by just getting the balance right at every single opportunity. I was

trying my best. My whole game plan was to go in there and be a Traitor.

And then, I was like this, go on, touch eight! She went round. Didn't

do it again. Is it bad that I speak? Jaz really did want to be a Traitor

but also, you told me about what happened to you. We had a really

long chat and I knew that the Faithful need to do. If that's not

too weird I think to say. But none of us could have predicted how

quickly you got it. When you started saying, I just got a feeling about

Paul, everybody else was like, oh, poor! -- Paul. He would die for the

Faithful X-Men Paul played it brilliantly. But everyone was like,

whatever happens, Paul is on our side and you were the only one who

was going... And I was like... But even when Paul was banished, he went

up to Harry and went, that was you! And again, just come back, you have

to adapt it so quickly. When Claudia chose me as a Faithful it was react

quickly to that change. Looking back, I was like, I wish she chose

me as a Traitor, what are you doing? But wanted to be a Traitor but I

needed to be a Faithful. So thank you, Claudia.

APPLAUSE You are amazing, absolutely amazing.

I'm so sorry I spoke again X-Men I'm not going to stop you speaking!

There have been so many, I hope you have seen what it means in

everything but my favourite one, Cathy Burke posted it, it was the

sixth sense, 0.6 seconds, Jaz was like, Bruce Willis as a ghost. It

was a fantastic game, well done. In our nail-biting finale, we also saw

the outcome of the whole game rest on the shoulders of Mollie. Let's

remind ourselves of a big decision. -- her big decision.

It is super tough. I want to ask included, what was it like in that

room at the moment? -- ask Claudia. Extraordinary. I'm not exaggerating

when I say it's a privilege to be there, because they were amazing

players who are getting to one goal, and all four in the endgame just

sort of while standing on the Jaz knew everything, Andrew went for it

but had been everybody's rock, and Mollie all of us who stands opposite

somebody, they become really close, like brother and sister, they were

together all the time and she wrote his name down and then looked at him

and couldn't do it. So Mollie has all of us, just because, in the end

I know this is a game but I'm just not doing it to you. Mollie makes is

all slightly wobbly because we love you, not because of what happened

but there was a reason you with their till the end... -- you were

there. That is the first point. .2 is because the way he tackled the

missions, the way you are as a human, you are loved. You were loved

by the cast, nobody, everyone was like, we are sticking with Mollie.

So stunning there at the end, it was something. However tense that woman

was, I don't want to dwell on it forever, I want to celebrate her

bill did to get to the final. You got Andrew out, you nearly got Harry

out. That was the first moment that I got from Andrew. I think deep down

I probably knew. But I just couldn't do it. So, yeah. It's a tough one

but it is what it is. We should say as well, things between you and

Harry are fine. I still think he is amazing. Always well. But look who

give him and that one episode per user, if you are a Traitor and never

speaking to you again. If that was me I would have crumbled

straightaway. I know! That was my favourite bit, when Harry said to

you, to be honest, if it is you, I would probably say fair play and you

went, I wouldn't. I think I saw instead, to be honest, my mum is

going to kill me for that. But I think he played an amazing game. You

have to have your moment and I think it's a massive shock, going from

thinking you have just won to be like, your best mate might actually

be a Traitor. Did you ever wonder why you are not murdered? He was a

trusted in there, I don't think you ever to be banished. Just happy to

be there. I would just enjoy myself. I loved the experience, loved the

missions. We were like a little family. Whatever reason it was, I'm

going to take it. It'll really hard to find a balance of, like, going in

with close friends, you can kind of look at everyone, especially when

you get down to the five, you are all so close, so it could be any of

them. I think you really grew in confidence throughout the whole

series. Definitely. The last episode, that mission was

incredible. Did you feel like you are growing? Definitely. And Diane

helped confidence so much, as she was like, you go in there and tell

them what you think, you talk to that roundtable X-Men when she left

I was gutted. She definitely changed my game. I think you have really

blazed a trail on the show. One of the biggest shows in the country,

that's important to you to get out and talk about that? Massively. The

final dinner party was a massive moment. Response from that means the

world to me. Even if when I'm happy I have that moment and I think it

has helped a lot of people. Very happy with that.

APPLAUSE Well done., Mollie, you were a

fantastic pair and a worthy finalist, you absolutely knocked it

out of the park. And now the time has come to get all

the reactions from our winner. It was a Traitor from the first leg of

his lips on day one. Here is the moment that Harry completed the

game. Harry, you did it. He played the game with your life. How are you

feeling? My legs were shaking. Oh, my... I just won 95 grand. 22 years

old. You've defeated everyone. Well done. Are you all right? I

underestimated this massively. Those 22 amazing people and from the off

I've been a Traitor. I've had enough of being naughty and being bad

because that was next level. Arm of the best Traitor in the world!

And our champion is here!

Welcome, Harry. Thank you for having me. Absolutely amazing. What an

incredible game. I want to take you right to the end if that's OK. What

was that like? Straight in the deep end. We will move to shallow waters

afterwards. What was it like with Mollie? When you are in there you

think you are having a blast and you are having a game. Especially when

you are a Traitor thinking you can be naughty and get away with it but

when it comes to making genuine connections, I believe I have that

with all of the cast. We were in there for however long but it felt

like we were there for years and we lived with each other and we had

sort of known each other so when it came to the end and I sort of wanted

to say I was a Faithful so bad just to make Mollie happy but I couldn't.

I was torn. It was the weirdest feeling ever. I can't even explain

it. Honestly. Can we say officially, for the viewer, you are both

friends. We are. I want to talk about Jaz. Were you aware of how you

he was? He was a dangerous player and you even said in the final.

100%. I overlooked Jaz. Watching it back has been the best ever. I lived

my experience. It has been that well put together that I was watching it

on the edge of my seat and I wanted to know what might happen. I was

nervous for myself. I thought Jaz was going to get me out. And I

thought, I'm gone, Jaz has figured it out. But, yeah, he did so well

to, like, play his role as a Faithful and it was just amazing.

When you were watching it but did you feel less secure Austin 8100%.

My legs were shaking. I was on the edge of seat. -- did you feel less

secure? I was so involved in the game that all I saw was my plan. --

100%, my legs were shaking. How I wanted my going to go, I believed in

it 100%. Watching it back I thought, wow, I got so lucky here, there,

everywhere. I was blessed to win and I got so lucky I did. Why do you

think so few of the Faithful didn't suspect you? I honestly don't know.

It's that baby face. That's it. With a cheeky smile, I think. Honestly,

like I said, when I went there I was going to be an open book either way.

I only had to tell one lie. One little white lie which nearly ruined

everybody's life but it was, like, a game. For me it was, like, all I

have to do is be myself, 100%, day to day, I want to treat everybody

how I would like to be treated, as nice as I can, like a gentleman, to

everyone. I was just being myself basically and I think I'm quite

lucky because I've come across as quite a trustworthy person anyway so

I just got very lucky. Do you think that will change now? I hope not. I

don't think my mum or my other half is ever going to trust me again.

Massive red flags. How well I sort of did in the end, but, yeah. So

many amazing plays you did in the series. I'm thinking of the moment

when you whispered to Zack about Paul and Myles shouting at each

other saying, I think that is to Traitor is going at each other and

the shield ploy. Did you have a favourite thing during the show? It

was hard. The shield ploy was amazing. Zack especially. It was so

funny because at the start... I found it really hard to get on with

Zack but then I started to realise because, like, we had so many, like,

he was such a strong personality at the same time. Then we sort of

clashed at the beginning but when it was, like, oh my gosh, when we work

together is amazing. When it came to situations like that I could sorta

feed him a little bit of information and he just goes, yes, Bang.

LAUGHTER He will do the dirty work for me. He

was amazing. That worked. It was perfect. But then I think the shield

play was just, like, it brought so much confusion because it was so

late on in the game as well. Everybody there can vouch for this,

it was mentally draining. We were so tired. I really thought, I might

just tell everyone I'm a Traitor because I was so tired. Everybody

was knackered. Bringing that in at the end was confusing for everyone

so it was, like, the double bluff and it worked perfectly. It was a

work of pure genius. It was fantastic. I want to talk about you

and Paul as a pair of Traitors. Claudia, you selected them, what

made them your Traitors to select? I could not not select Paul. He

described himself as competitive, cruel, Traitor, so I was, like, OK,

you get it. I don't use by myself. I choose with brilliant producers. It

just... Those conversations I have they are much longer than you see on

screen but they are persuasive. I really, really wanted to make Diane

a Traitor. I can say that out loud. I was literally, I know you are in

here with your son but you can do this. Diane got the giggles like

I've never seen before. We were both rolling around on the floor, weeping

with laughter, she was, like, can you imagine me a Traitor! I was,

like, all right, all right. Harry really wanted. Ash really wanted.

Lots of people. Anyway, we thought we picked well. You picked very,

very well. I want to talk about your relationship with Paul as Traitors.

Paul was pretty sure he was the leader of the Traitors and you were

following along. Did you ever think that Paul was the leader or where

you... 100% not. Always amazing. The best thing was we clicked at the

start anyway. Like I have a best mate I was in school with. I was

never naughty at school but I was just cheeky. If I was ever in

trouble it was never me alone it was always me and my best mate. So when

I was in the castle it was like the exact same thing. I am getting in

trouble with a best friend sort of thing. Being able to do it together,

it made me feel better about myself. Him just being the leader, I think

we sort of like... He loved it from the off. He said that we sort of did

a switcheroo where I was finding it hard because I was trying to be my

nice self and having to lie to people I've just met. Imagine making

a connection with somebody where you are lying to them from the start.

It'll never work out. Or you worry it won't. But he just loved the

role. I carried that on as he started fading and it was just,

like, we would like two peas in an evil pod. A rotten pod. Me and Paul.

You both in your rotten pod. That is all yours, Harry, we will get that

changed into notes. What are you going to do with all of that money?

I cannot even believe it now. 23 years old. That much money. I can't

even explain what I am going to do with it. I've always said that money

never makes me happy. I've never needed it. As long as I have a roof

over my head, food, water, my family, my other half with me,

that's all I need. I will be just as happy. That money is going to treat

them. Everything my mum and dad have done for me and my siblings. To be

able to give them something they want in return is, like, the best

thing ever. You did absolutely amazingly. That is a very emotional

speech. None of us believe it. LAUGHTER

Harry, as Claudia said, you played the game of your life. In fact you

all did. It's been an absolutely incredible series. Thanks for

entertaining the nation and providing some much-needed escapism

in drab January. The chat continues with all of our finalists and

Claudia because we have so much more to ask them now they are reunited so

we continue with our bonus audio episode which has just arrived in

your BBC sounds at. Listen to more revelations from the finalists. Big

thanks to our finalists and, of course, Claude!

If you think you have what it takes to compete in the Traitors, casting

for series three is now open but not for long. In fact the closing date

is the 11th of February. If you want to apply go to the website...

That is it. 22 players, six Traitors, 12 missions, two

relatives, one funeral, and one chalice of fizzy rows. Series two

has been an absolute blast but don't worry about Traitors withdrawal

because series two Australia is now available in its entirety on BBC

iPlayer. -- fizzy rose. Thank you so much for watching Springwatch. Now

you can tell your friends that you know what a visualised podcast is. I

met Gamble. Stay Faithful. -- I am at Gamble.

-- I am Ed Gamble.