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Hello and welcome to the penultimate Traitors: Uncloaked.

I'm Ed Gamble and we are now just 24 hours away from finding out

who will win The Traitors. But, by now, you know the drill.

If you have not seen episode 11 of the Traitors, get yourself

to iPlayer and catch up now, because there are spoilers coming...now!

Coming up on the show...

..we get the exclusive first look of Zack and Jasmine meeting to find out

who the traitors are.

Plus, to dissect the latest episode, we have Traitor superfans

Danielle Harold and Nick Grimshaw!

AUDIENCE CHEERS

Yeah! Yeah, yeah!

I love that. Yeah, yourself.

I love that we are officially Traitor superfans.

And that's the case with you definitely, isn't it?

It's our entire personality for 2024. Yeah.

Well, we've got a lot to talk about.

We've got to talk about that absolutely batshit mission.

We've got to talk about Claudia's iconic outfit - another one, tick.

Obsessed. Best one yet. Yeah.

Most importantly, I think we've got to talk about it -

who's got it in them to go all the way in this series

of The Traitors? But first, we need to talk about the round table.

Another faithful has been banished.

So let's remind ourselves of the moment that Jasmine

got the boot.

I am a faithful.

Bye.

I thought she was going to say she was a traitor.

I thought she was going to say she was a traitor, too.

She was just smiling so much. I was like... I'm fucked.

So much going on in just that one clip.

Firstly, I want to say I'm glad Jasmine got a bow in,

because the only bow we've seen so far is Paul, a dastardly traitor.

Love the bow. The bow, absolutely perfect. Really great.

Harry is just so convincing.

"I thought she was going to say she was a traitor."

Every time I see Harry, he goes into the turret, he takes his hood off.

I'm like, hang on, I thought you were a faithful. Hang on!

I know. Every time.

Were we surprised that Jasmine was banished tonight?

Not really, was we? Because they'd done the whole plan,

so we knew it was going to be one or the two of the girls that left.

Yeah, and perfect for Harry and Andrew,

because the second they sat at that table, they just both

had it in for each other. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, dream situation.

If you're a traitor, you could just sit there and just let that unfold.

Watch that unfold. It was absolutely perfect. Yeah.

Jasmine was such an incredible player.

I think she often had the right idea.

She was formidable.

She wouldn't take any bullshit, basically.

She was great and she was super articulate and she was really,

I thought, fair around the table as well. Yes, absolutely.

And she was really clear and concise in her ideas and theories.

Jasmine had a really interesting point about defending the traitors

at the round table. So let's remind ourselves of that.

Everyone has had situations at this round table

where they have defended a traitor, like Zack has defended Ash,

like Andrew's defended Paul.

Like, I don't necessarily think being wrong makes you a traitor.

I just think it just makes you wrong.

This is such a good point, because people are grabbing

at anything to try and find traitors. Yeah.

And they don't seem to have learned in this series that if someone

defends a traitor or says, "I don't think they're a traitor",

like Jasmine did with Ross, which is what's arisen

people's suspicion, it doesn't make them a traitor.

In fact, I think it's the opposite. There's no traitor loyalty. Mm-hm.

The people you need to be looking at are the people who are right

every time, aka Paul and Harry, the people who are leading the charge.

I love that there's no traitor loyalty.

Yeah. That is some good juicy TV. Oh, when they turn on each other...

..that's the best. It is amazing.

Horrible, personally, I imagine, for them, but really good for us

to watch on the telly. Really good. Really good.

I thought I saw Miles in Zara the other day.

Um... Are you serious?! This is why we get you on, Grimmy.

I went up the escalators, because I was like,

"Oh, my God, it's Miles off Traitors." But it weren't him.

Good story that, innit? That guy was on Twitter.

"Did Nick Grimshaw just follow me around Zara?!".

I was, like, running up the escalators to see. I wouldn't...

No, it's just a man. It's just a man.

Evie clearly wasn't expecting Jasmine to be faithful.

And I mean, we saw the end of the clip - it was just Evie,

very quietly going, "I'm fucked."

Yeah! "I'm fucked!"

That's got to be a series highlight.

What do we think about Evie's chances moving forward?

Because, as she said herself, she's effed.

I'm not sure how many we're allowed in the show, so...

Probably - we've hit the quota. Yeah, I think so!

I think she feels quite safe in the show, for me.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? She does seem to feel safe.

But I feel like there could be still Andrew's suspicions. Yes.

I think that, worryingly, Jaz is going to...

..pursue his Harry cause. Yeah.

And I think it could be Harry who's maybe in danger

in the next challenge or overnight.

We hope Jaz pursues his Harry course, but he did have the theory

about Paul very early on and kept saying, "I'm just going

"to bide my time...! Yeah. "..I'm going to bide my time"

And he bided his time until someone else...

Yeah! He just waits, doesn't he, to say...then he just sort of, yeah...

Just get it out. Time has been boden. Yeah.

Time has been boden.

But he seems...he was referring to this theory as his caged tiger.

He says, "I've got this caged tiger."

And I'm starting to think he's lost the keys to the cage.

He's lost it in the castle! Yeah.

That tiger's been in the cage for so long,

Carole Baskin's going to get involved. Yeah!

I need him to say something now, because he's talking about

hard evidence at this point.

But he does this and then he doesn't say anything, does he?

Then it goes away and I'm like, "Say it, you're right,

"you're so right." And he just doesn't. He's too scared.

Let's talk a bit more about Harry's master plan by getting the shield,

pretending that the traitors had tried to murder him,

but they couldn't because he had a shield, whereas actually

they'd recruited Ross. I just want to keep talking about it forever,

because it's an absolute stroke of genius. Absolutely fantastic.

It could have backfired. Yeah. There's something about him that

they just believe and trust him. Yeah. Especially Mollie... Yeah. Oh!

..who is completely under his spell. Oh, bless her!

The thing is, all of her theories are correct. Like she said,

"I don't know why they've not killed you. You keep finding traitors.

"You'd be really good at that." And you go, "And, Mollie,

"what's the next thought there?" She's like, "But it won't be you.

"You're completely faithful." I'm like, "Oh, no, oh, no, God, please."

Because whatever Harry does, she does believe him.

She believes he's a faithful. Let's have a listen to this.

I'm just scared of who I'll be standing next to in the final.

Today is the first time I've properly thought about the money

and how much I do really want it, and the thought of a traitor, like,

snatching it away from us, it's unthinkable, really.

We're this close, like, whoever it

is now, is just a fucker, aren't they?

I could be an idiot for saying it, but I think I'd be happy

standing at the final with Harry, confident that he's a faithful.

Oh, it really bugs her. The one person...

It's the one person you can't be confident to stand with.

Well, I think they've just got, like, a lovely bond, I guess,

haven't they? They're like, similar age. Yeah.

And they probably just really connected where she's like,

"Surely he can't be lying to me?"

I know. You must need to trust somebody being in there, as well.

Like, forget the game, just the amount of time they're there.

You must want to find somebody that you think, "I can just trust you,

"we've got this in our own little bubble", kind of.

And I just feel so sorry for her! I'd never trust anyone ever again.

You wouldn't, would you? You'd be like, "Aw."

I think we need to remind ourselves of Harry's final words

in tonight's episode.

It's hard.

For some reason, right at the end, right now,

I'm starting to feel bad, but I can't let it all come crashing down.

I know what needs to be done.

I don't want to do it, but I know it needs to happen.

My eyes are on that prize.

When tomorrow comes and we're in that final,

I'm going to try my absolute hardest to be there at the end

and take it all.

Oooh! Yeah. He's going to try his hardest,

which means he hasn't been trying his hardest so far. Wow.

So, what is going to happen when he tries his hardest?!

You know, half of me is like, oh, how can he do that?

And then I remember, oh, it's a game on television.

I know! Yeah! It's a game!

So half of me thinks, oh, I don't want him to win

because what about everyone's lovely plans we've just heard.

And then I think, well, what about Harry's 11 brothers and sisters?

Do you know what I mean? So I don't know.

I mean, wow, if he steps it up another gear, Jesus.

We do need to chat about our latest murdered player.

Our latest victim, Zack.

Do you think Zack was the smart murder in this situation?

Because I think they were debating between Mollie, Jaz and Zack.

He's quite a leader, I feel, around that table,

gets his points across really good.

So I feel like he could be a man of influence. True.

So I guess to the traitors, he is quite dangerous.

Yes. So, he was probably quite a clever murder. Yeah.

Zack will be with us shortly,

but before that, we've got to talk about the mission,

the insane mission, like a scene from 1960s Doctor Who.

Claudia gave a clue at breakfast

that it was all about ancient history, and Harry knew

he was instantly prepared for this.

Ancient history? I'm like, mate, I know mad facts.

If you stretch out a human's DNA, and put it in a line, it would go

to the sun and back 30 times.

So, bet you didn't know that.

A bit of history there from Harry, Ancient history.

That's ancient history. Ancient history lesson. If you showed me

that clip out of context there, I'd go, "No way that guy's a traitor." No way. He couldn't handle

being a traitor. Are you kidding me? Yeah!

I mean, let's talk about the traitors monument.

It was... That was a really crazy...

Like, it got so weird. I went a bit weird!

It went a bit weird. This show has got weirder this year. Yeah.

And that was... It was so weird. Like, Claudia's outfit

was really weird. It looked fantastic.

We have to say that. Absolutely fantastic.

It was sort of like when it's time for bed at Glastonbury.

That's what it reminds me of.

I was like, "I don't want to be here any more.

"And who's this lady?"

Yeah, no, it got weird.

They had to crack these puzzles, of course,

which they cracked. They managed to crack it, and they're putting

the staffs in the thing and pushing it round and it cracked open

and someone was vaping inside and it all came out.

It was very exciting. And we finally got to the drawing

the swords from stone.

So obviously the person who pulled out the sacred sword could take

the seven grand and carry on with the game, or they could put

the money back into the pot. Do we think Harry made the right decision

by saying, "The money goes back into the pot, we just carry on as we were"?

I mean, I guess it's the right decision to make everyone think, oh, he's dead nice.

But that's not the aim of the game, is it?

So I don't know if it set him up to think, maybe a traitor

would do that. Would do that. Because you'd be thinking,

I'm going to win loads more anyway, if I win. Yeah.

And also, I've got to appear to be a team player.

Yeah. So it might raise suspicions, and I think it did.

I think there was a shot of Jaz straight after he made it, like...

"Hard evidence, that's more hard evidence!"

Find the key, find the key!

So I don't, I don't know. I think it was the...I don't know,

it was a tricky one to do. The guy's good. The guy's good!

He's good. He's good!

Now, before we look at our scoreboard of suspicion, we do

have to talk about the dinner party. Very emotional?

We were really emotional. We were quite quiet, weren't we?

Yeah, we were like... Oh! Oh, dear.

It really got me because you watch it, and I was so invested

in the show. Yeah. But you see them as characters on TV.

So I think it's really nice to see them as people and learn

more about their lives. And when we heard Andrew's story,

I was just... Aw! When he was saying, like,

he's never been proud of anything... Oh, my God, I cried. I fully went.

I love him anyway. I know. All of that.

I'm like, Oh, my God, all I want is the best for this man. I know.

But all their stories were really emotional. Jaz's family story

as well. Yes. They all were really amazing stories.

So, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know how I feel about the entire programme now.

I know, it changes you with everything, doesn't it, that dinner?

Yeah. And Mollie as well, what an incredible story from Mollie.

If I was Harry sat there watching Mollie's story, I'd just be like,

I think I'd burst into tears, stand up and go, "I'm a traitor",

run through the French windows and never come back.

Yeah, I think you'd have to. He just went, "I'm coming for it all"

didn't he?! "I'm coming for all the money!"

He delivered a lovely thing, going, "She's such a strong woman. I'm so impressed with her",

and basically saying, "I can't wait to take all that money off her."

I know! Savage! Savage!

And Evie, of course, you know, wants a bigger place to live.

Two dogs... Lovely, wholesome story. And that's what we do want.

We want a veterinary nurse's dogs to have a happier life. Yeah,

we really...! So actually, I want faithfuls to win.

So we're going to be speaking to Zack and Jasmine very soon.

Very excited to meet them.

But first of all, we're going to do our Scoreboard of Suspicion,

or should it be renamed the Scoreboard of Ascension?

Because this is going to show us who we think is going to make it

over that final hurdle tomorrow night.

It's quite a complicated system.

The top half is red, the bottom half is blue.

I have paddles here with all of the remaining players on them.

If we think they're under suspicion or they might be voted out,

we will be putting them up in the red section.

Red for danger. Red for danger. Well done, Nick, good.

I was going to explain that in a second. Yeah, yeah.

If we think they're doing well and they're going to last the course,

then we're going to put them in the blue section.

Blue for...? Serenity. Chilled and chilly. Water. Correct.

Yeah, water. Right. So let's start with Harry.

I mean, he has been fantastic. Yes.

Obviously, he could win. I do think Jaz's tiger

could be a ferocious one. Yeah. I really, really do.

If he lets it out the cage. If he lets out of the cage.

Yeah, just, yeah. He gave a good speech.

Yeah. Good convincing speech. He was right about Paul.

Yeah. It cou... I don't know.

So where are we going to pop him? Yeah. Do we think down in the blue?

I think, out of them all... I think down in the blue.

..he's the most blue. The most blue he can be?

The most blue he can be, I think. There we go.

Well, that is a good position to be in for the final episode,

I'll be honest! How about our other traitor,

our recruited traitor, of course, Andrew?

Harry is very manipulative. Yes.

And he could sway Mollie and sway the others into making anything up.

Like, "Oh, Andrew said this." So I think Andrew could be sort of

in the ombre section.

Danielle, do you reckon that Andrew could switch round

and come for Harry?

I didn't even think about that!

That would be brilliant if he did. Could you imagine?

All the way through, you don't expect it from Andrew,

he just pulls a turn? So where shall we pop Andrew, then?

Do we...?

Maybe just under the ombre-ness.

Just under the ombre-ness, just here? Just getting into the blue.

Little bit... Little bit lower?

So we think there's some... way more suspicion on than Harry,

less chance of getting there than Harry.

But it's nice to... What we're learning in this is

we don't know. No. Yeah.

So in that vein, let's carry on. Yeah.

Let's talk about our remaining faithfuls.

Jaz, first of all. Do we think...? What do we reckon Jaz's chances...?

Could put a little zipper on his mouth. Yeah.

"What's that, Jaz? Oh, nothing."

I think Jaz is all right.

I think Jaz could be quite safe, around an Andrew marker for me.

Maybe. So he might actually... I think he could make it through.

If he comes for Harry, I think.

If he starts talking, it's game over for everyone.

OK, what about Mollie?

Mollie. She is so lovely.

She seems quite safe at the moment, don't she?

She's come under very little suspicion. She really, really has.

I'd say none. None. Not been mentioned at all.

I'd say on par with Harry, to be fair. Cos everyone else

who doesn't get mentioned, at least at some point someone goes,

"They've not been mentioned." Yeah, but she hasn't.

Mollie's just never been mentioned. Yeah.

So let's put her down there. Yeah.

OK, finally, Evie. Now, it feels like there's some focus turned

on Evie, especially as it was sort of,

"It must be Evie. Or Jasmine."

Jasmine's faithful, which, I mean, she said it herself - she's effed.

She's right up. She's effed. Big time.

Shall we pop her in the boiling hot?

Red. Yeah. Right up at the top, in the big red section.

There she is. Oh!

That's how we're going to leave it

going into the final episode of Traitors.

We'll see if we were correct.

But first of all, very excitingly,

we're going to be meeting Zack and Jasmine in a bit.

But here is the exclusive VT that they filmed

the day after they left the castle,

when they find out exactly who the traitors are.

JASMINE LAUGHS

All right, Jasmine?

Oh. All right, babe?

THEY LAUGH

Did you miss me? Yeah... Mm...

If... What?!

If you would have asked me, like, maybe, like, four days ago,

I'd be like, "Yeah, I missed you,"

but I feel like we were... The night that we left...

Yeah, we're fine, it's all in the past. Yeah.

How...how's things?

Not bad. Not bad.

Yeah.

So, Jasmine, what are you saying? Traitor or faithful?

Can you guess before I reveal it?

I think you're a faithful, 100%.

I am a faithful, yeah. I think that's obvious.

Was it obvious? Cos I would have liked you to report that maybe

two days ago, when you voted me!

No, it's cos as soon as...

You being here speaks to you being a faithful.

And I think also, I wouldn't have been dead if you weren't a faithful.

It's too obvious. So obvious.

Are you ready to find out who the last traitors are? Please!

Please open it.

Who is it? Who is it?

It's Harry.

LOUD GASP

Andrew as well!

I am gagged.

Harry and Andrew?

I'm sorry... Six traitors?

Shit, was Harry a traitor from the start? Probably.

Is that why he was gunning for me?

I did think it was weird how he just suddenly trusted you.

My entire game is flashing before my eyes.

Like, remembering moments with all of them.

I can't believe it's Andrew.

I cannot believe it.

I'm...I'm devastated.

I'm really, really upset about that one.

We were way off.

Hey, I start as I mean to go on.

I've been wrong throughout and I was wrong in the end!

And they're here with us now.

It's murdered Zack and banished Jasmine.

CHEERING

Welcome.

Can I just say, first of all,

it's so lovely to see you two getting along?

Yeah. Cos there were a couple of tense moments...

Bit of a roller-coaster. ..especially in that final episode.

Yeah, we would like to put it down to, like,

kind of like a brotherly-sisterly feud.

Yeah. I think that's why it got so heated, because we get

along so well that when our names came under fire, I was like,

"How dare you think that of me?!"

I think, as a viewer, you can see how tense it is in there.

So if you start to butt heads with someone and then there's,

like, there's, you know, apologies that need to go round

and then it's... I don't think anyone judges anyone for

the reactions they have to being in there

cos it seems really intense.

Yeah. Yeah, it is very intense.

I think, well, before I went on the show, I was like,

"Oh, it's not that deep."

You get what I mean? Like how intense...how bad can it be, right?!

But then when I was there, I was like, "Oh, OK, no, it is deep."

Do you get what I mean? It's like, I've made some real close friends.

Zack. And it's just like... Thank you.

..now that I'm actually butting heads with them and I'm thinking,

"OK, they might be a traitor,"

it's kind of like gutting, cos I don't want them to be a traitor

and I don't want to feel this way about you, but I feel

like you're betraying me and that's really annoying me.

So... Yeah, it's really hard to separate the game from the person.

Well, you seemed particularly upset in that VT that Andrew is a traitor.

Why was it Andrew in particular that upset you?

I called Andrew "Dad" the entire way throughout the show

and he called me "Son", so I don't know,

I think one of the round tables he holds up my name and he goes,

"I'm sorry, Son. I told them it's you."

So...I'm sat there and you could see my face just, like,

turns to shock and sadness.

And we really had a close bon... Bond?

..close bond for a lot of the show.

I mean, you were both amazing players and you did suspect

each other at various points. Yeah.

I mean, I feel like, Zack, you were suspected by a few different

people throughout the course of it,

but towards the end it seemed everyone just went,

"Nah, it's not Zack. Zack can't be a traitor."

I think people realised that me just being a bit hectic

and neurotic was not an act. I was just being me.

Sort of like nervous, awkward self that I am.

And I think eventually people realised

that's how I just am in general

and it wasn't putting on an act or, like, you know, being extra nervous

about potentially hiding some guilt.

So that did come through and eventually people started

warming to me and seeing what I was like, and that was nice,

but at the start it was difficult.

Yeah, it was tough. Those first few episodes.

But I think as you were throwing out accusations quite a lot

and you were very vocal in... Yeah. ..you'd do it at breakfast

then you'd do it whenever, you'd be like, "I think it's this person,"

or, like, having arguments in the corridor.

I'm not shy. Yeah, exactly.

But I think that clearly proves that you were a faithful

because no traitor would play that game.

That's my thought exactly. Yeah.

NICK: Yeah, there was no off time, was there, for you?

You were like, "I'm on this." Yeah, that's my brain.

You should try living up here!

There's no off time ever. Were you thinking about it all the time?

Were you, like, dreaming of it and stuff?

I still dream of it today.

Yeah.

I didn't have a spreadsheet or a chart

but I did have a book that I was like...

The scribbles are, like, completely illegible.

It makes no sense.

It was just a mad man just scribbling away in his books,

like some words are capital letters over the entire page.

There's just no relevance there at all. That's amazing.

Like a serial killer's notebook.

Zack, of course, you were very sadly murdered at the start

of tonight's episode, so let's remind ourselves of your reaction.

Oh, there it is.

"Dear Zack, by order of the traitors, you have been murdered."

Signed, the traitors.

Oh. I thought my days were numbered after yesterday.

It's a bit of a gut punch, but I knew I'd be on the chopping block.

I think I put a massive target on my back

by basically singlehandedly finding a traitor.

Wow. Giving myself a lot of credit there, aren't I?!

I really, really, really hope

my fellow faithfuls can find them, though.

It's been a wonderful experience, but...

..it has to come to an end, I guess.

Oh, it's... Aw!

No, I was gutted for you.

What's it like getting so far into the game and then being knocked out?

I guess you kind of have to take it as a compliment,

but I put myself in that position, I was very vocal with who

I thought it was the entire time and I think... I don't know.

I think just towards the end, I was riding the luck of maybe

picking the right people.

I thought it was Paul early on, and I think maybe killing me

would have been too leading towards or back to him.

So I think... Yeah, I think maybe being too vocal kind of

came to me at the end.

Same question to you, though, Jasmine.

What's it like getting so far and going at such a late stage?

Yeah, it was gutting.

To know that I was like... That's a better answer.

To know that I was like a mere 12 hours away from being in the final

is just a gut-wrenching feeling.

I thought that I would be OK with it, and I kind of reconciled

with it because I knew that when Zack didn't walk in that door,

they were going to pin that murder on me.

So, like, I knew that I was going.

So I had the whole day to kind of try and deal with it.

And you'll notice in episode 11,

like, I'm a bit like... Like, usually I'm loud, opinionated.

I was a bit, like, subdued because I just knew

that I was going. Jasmine, going into that round table,

it felt like it was between you and Evie. Yeah.

So it was very much Clash of the Titans in that situation,

because you were the two who apparently didn't know

that Harry had a shield.

So let's remind ourselves of that conversation.

I just think that, in hindsight,

I think that Zack's theory has legs.

Oh, why have I done that?

Which in my head only leaves me or you.

Yeah. Do you get what I mean?

Cos I'm thinking the same. Yeah.

Zack's theory does have legs.

If a traitor tried to murder Harry,

it only leaves the people that didn't know

that Harry had the shield.

Now, Ross is a traitor,

I'm a faithful.

Who else does that leave?

Not Evie!

It just makes no sense to me that Evie is a traitor

on the basis that she didn't know that Harry had the shield.

I mean, Harry has done an absolute job, hasn't he?

I feel so bad about that.

Had I stuck to my guns... Cos in the round table before,

I gagged Zack cos I was like, "Well, no, it could be another

"theory in which the person, the traitor, is using

"the shield as an excuse."

And it's not even me or Ross, even though it was Ross,

and that is the theory.

However, I think it's just unfortunate that Zack got Ross out

with the wrong theory. Yeah.

And then, like, flipped my head.

And then instead of, like, sticking to my own conviction,

I was like, "Oh, OK..." It's hard to, though, isn't it?

Yeah, really hard. After the person next to you... It's really hard.

And I was like, "Oh, OK, so this...this is it

"and I'm just running with it," and it was just so completely wrong.

And I think that, had me and Zack... Like, cos we were really close

at the beginning and had we stuck together and put our heads together,

I think we could have made it to the final.

But I think we kind of both sowed the seeds to

each other's destruction. Yeah. Which is really unfortunate.

Yeah. I feel really horrible about the fact that the main theory

I had has resulted in, like, a number of faithfuls

being killed or whatever.

The theory was there on the plate deliberately, right? Yeah.

It was a trap set by Harry. Yeah.

Then Jasmine then said, you know,

"Can you not see that it might be a double bluff?"

How do you think you two would have fared being traitors?

Because I think there was a moment where they were

considering recruiting you, Jasmine. Yeah.

And I thought that was the best choice, was to recruit you.

Well, yeah. It's a big boys' club, isn't it? Would be nice!

Unfortunately they only recruit men. Yeah, exactly.

Men only.

But I...

I personally think that I would have been a good traitor

and I actually did want to be a traitor going on there.

I agree. They just have such control over the game.

And I just think that there was a trend of traitors being

larger than life outside the round table,

but also quiet in the round table.

But I wasn't like that.

I was kind of both, so I just kind of like broke the mould

of how a traitor would normally behave

and therefore I don't think that people really would

have suspected me, unless your name is Zack.

I think you're also super intelligent as well, so I think you

would have... I think you probably would have figured out

a way to get the other traitors out of the way.

Zack's name was coming up, like, since day one, and for him to get

as far as episode 11 is just a testament to how intelligent

he is and how, like... Thank you so much! ..and how good

of a debater he is because, yeah, I think I would have crumbled.

Yeah, it's really impressive that you got that far.

Oh, you guys!

I know! We're besties!

This is insane. This dynamic is insane.

Can't believe we're doing this.

I think I think that's why our bust up was so, like, heated,

because we get on so well.

So it genuinely felt like such a betrayal when Zack came at me

with such fire, like, "You're a traitor."

And I was like, "No, but... No, but we're besties!" Yeah.

"Who are the two people you've had in

"who get along the best from The Traitors?"

No-one would guess you two, I don't think.

Because we saw...we saw a lot of the heat between you two

rather than a lot of this fun stuff. So it's really nice to see.

Oh, thank you. Thank you.

Now, we've run out of time here, but do join us over on BBC Sounds

because the chat will continue.

We'll be chatting to our wonderful guests more.

We'll be talking to Zack and Jasmine

and special guest Ivan from series one, will be joining us

to give us his top three strategic moves

and top three tactical blunders

from series two of The Traitors.

It's all on the bonus episode of Uncloaked

in your BBC Sounds app right now.

A massive thanks to Danielle, Nick, Jasmine and Zack for joining me!

Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you, Ed.

We've only got one more episode of Uncloaked to go.

I know. I'm sad, but I'm also very excited.

Everything that's happened over the last 11 episodes

has all built to episode 12,

and it's a very special final podcast with all of the finalists,

the winners, the losers,

and, of course, Queen Claudia herself will be joining me.

So, come back straight after the grand finale episode of Traitors

for one remaining episode of Uncloaked.

I'm Ed Gamble - stay faithful.

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