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Hello and welcome to The Traitors: Uncloaked, hosted by me, Ed Gamble.

But you know the drill. It's spoiler-warning time.

If you have not watched the brilliant episode nine

of The Traitors, go away and do that first, because there will be

huge spoilers and they are coming up right about now.

Coming up, we have the exclusive moment that Charlie and Charlotte

met to find out the identity of the Traitors.

They'll be joining us later to talk all about their time

playing the game.

Plus, to dissect the latest episode,

I'll be joined by Jordan North and Thanyia Moore!

Welcome. Welcome from us.

That was a great intro. Thank you very much.

Thank you, I'm nailing this now.

You really are, I was so impressed.

Thank you. What did we think of this episode?

I mean, things are hotting up.

This is spicy stuff happening now, guys.

Having me out of my seat.

Yeah. We watched the episode together, and we were both literally

out of our seat, weren't we?

I was literally up and down. In a good way, you weren't leaving?

She was slapping the table, then she walked up to the screen -

I've never seen anyone actually walk up to the telly -

and was that close.

Well, I wanted to ask you, Jordan - you were obviously

in the I'm A Celeb castle. Yes. When it was in the castle.

How does the Traitors Castle compare to the I'm A Celeb Castle?

You're going to wish you never asked now, I'll never shut up.

I was saying to Thanyia during it, as well, during the task

when they were in the tunnel and stuff,

I was like, "Oh, I've done that. I've done that. That's easy.

"I had snakes on me. What's a couple of toads?"

But that castle actually looks beautiful compared to the one

we were in. Ours were freezing.

But that castle looks great.

We've got loads to talk about today - including, of course, we'll get

into detail on Ross being recruited and wanting to find out

who put his mum six feet under.

Oh! And the heat is finally building on Harry.

But first, let's remind ourselves of the moment that the latest player,

Charlotte, was banished.

I've never felt so validated after meeting such wonderful people.

I love all of you - you included.

But, yeah, it seems like I've been a bit of a collateral damage to Paul,

by the looks of it.

I'm a Faithful.

After two successful Traitor banishments in a row,

they're now back on a losing streak. Yeah.

It feels like they're clutching at straws again a little bit. Mm-hm.

What I really like about this is when a Faithful is banished,

they have such a different energy when they go up to announce it.

Yeah. So Charlotte announced it,

she's clearly gutted to have been banished and just sort of, you know,

shuffles out the room with her head hanging.

When we've seen Traitors being banished...

Miles literally like, "Bye!" Honestly skipped.

And Paul with the bow. What an exit!

Paul really thought he was Richard Gere in that moment.

He was like, "I am an actor and I'm going to get an agent right now."

Like, it was insane. You're just good at lying, Paul. Relax.

Yeah. Are we sad to see Charlotte go?

I mean, I know I am, personally.

Yeah, I think she was a really good Faithful.

Yes. And I said a couple of weeks ago

when I was watching the episodes -

I was like, I could imagine Charlotte getting to the final...

Mm! ..because the Faithfuls trusted her, but she was quiet enough

that the Traitors didn't really have her card marked, if you will.

She seemed to do enough to get a little bit of suspicion,

which meant the Traitors would never murder her, like you say.

But I just think she was doing so well in the game,

it seems gutting that she's been voted out.

She didn't come across as traitorous to me.

No, but then, also, at this point now, there's so little numbers

she's beginning to come into view... Mm-hm.

..because there's no-one else to hide her. Yeah.

So now there's so few of them,

I feel like they're being very strategic about where

they're placing people and how they're moving.

Yeah. And I think she's just come into view. Yeah.

And then when you come into view and you've got an opinion - oh!

It's a spotlight right there.

That's like saying, "Vote me out, please." It's hard.

Yeah, but then if you don't say anything... It's even harder.

You can't win. It's such a fine balancing act, isn't it? Yeah.

And I wasn't expecting her to go this episode. No!

I could have sworn it would have been Ross.

Yeah, because... I really thought it would have been Ross.

..she wasn't a part of most of the major conversations

when they were in their huddles.

So it's so amazing how you can walk into the round table thinking,

"OK, it's one of these two," and by the end it's completely gone left.

Yeah. And now Charlotte's about to come in and be a guest.

I know, I know.

And we're all looking forward to meeting Charlotte... Yes.

..but not in these circumstances. The only thing I could think

was she threw herself into the mission and was crawling through

the rotting food with no problem.

Maybe she was banished because she just stunk.

Yeah, that's a fair point. It must have been it.

They got back from the mission. She was like, "Have I got time for a shower?

They went, "No, you're straight into the round table."

She's like, "Oh, God, I stink of old onions!"

Get her out, get her out! Get rid of her.

You mentioned Ross there. We thought Ross might have been banished,

but the opposite has happened to Ross -

Ross has now been recruited at the end of the episode.

What do we think about that choice of Ross?

I'm going to be honest, I'm really happy,

because before he was recruited, I was so irritated by him.

He was getting it all wrong. All of his predictions were wrong.

He was gung-ho for everything that was wrong.

He even told his mum she was wrong

when she was absolutely spot-on about Paul.

And now I love him because he's like, "Oh...

"..payback." And I'm like, OK. OK, Ross. Now I'm in.

I love the fact that there was a secret mother and son in there.

I think it's fantastic. But part of me was thinking,

how is this going to pay off? If they never tell anyone,

how is it going to pay off? Then we got Ross'.. wink.

Oh, that was genius.

That was so sweet. ..on the previous episode.

Oh, that was just... That was enough for me.

Perfect. That had me up. Yeah, that was up, yeah, yeah.

You're right up going, "Wink again!" "WHAT?!"

As far as television winks go, that is up there with best winks.

It's up there with Anne Robinson. Yes. Trying to think who else.

Let's have television winks awards.

Top winkers. Yeah! Oh, God!

Well, we can do television's top winkers. That's a different podcast!

Top winkers - there's a few.

But now - now that he's been recruited, it seems to have turned

into this samurai revenge film...

Yeah. ..where he's just got his sights set on the people

who killed his mum. And it's just given the show a whole new element.

It's brilliant. I love it.

I'd be very happy if Harry's plan comes to fruition,

but I would be delighted if Ross' revenge plan comes to fruition.

So let's remind ourselves of when he revealed the new plan.

So I want to know, like, your reasoning behind different murders

and stuff, because, to be honest,

I thought I was going to get murdered, 100%.

Who do you want to know? Er...

"Er..." I know!

What about Diane?

I still can't let on that Diane's my mum,

but I want an answer.

Diane, well, she was

just getting too brave and stuff.

She was getting too brave

so we put her in her place.

Look it, look it, look it!

SHE SQUEALS

I could feel myself going to boiling point.

My mum was murdered... YES! ..so I will take revenge.

If I've got an opportunity,

they're getting it.

Yes, they are! They're getting it.

It's so good. He means business.

He's so juicy. Oh! It's just Kill Bill now, it's fantastic.

I love it. Yeah. Oh!

When Harry said "we had to show Diane a lesson" - ooh!

Oh, my God, rewind it. Yes!

His reaction to that. Oh, my God.

I'm going to rewind it and just have it on loop. It was wonderful.

So, obviously, Ross being recruited -

or the Traitors recruiting in general -

is all part of this master plan from Harry,

which, when it emerged that that's what he was doing,

I got up. Off your seat.

I was off my seat.

I was so excited. Babes.

To be... To think that far ahead,

to get the shield from the mission, pocket it.

Ideally would have done it with no-one seeing him,

but Mollie saw him. But of all the people to see him,

he knows he can trust Mollie. Yeah. And then to keep it,

and then the next day they've recruited.

Everyone turns up at breakfast, Harry can go,

"Well, they must have tried to kill me. I've got a shield."

So everyone's like, well, Harry's definitely Faithful, then.

There's no way he's a Traitor. Yeah.

I just think, he is a mastermind, isn't he?

I think he's going to...

That's either going to be the best part of the show

or the part where he falls down.

Yeah. Because it could go two ways.

Which... Which way do you...?

Because there's no reason why a Traitor can't have the shield.

True. So someone might see that as a...that's a ploy.

So that's a ploy, yeah. Yeah. The same way they saw

that the two Traitors in the dungeon was a ploy.

So you think people might see through the plan?

They might, or...

..Ross will let people start thinking that,

because that's what he wants. Yeah. Yeah.

I think he's played a great game.

And when he took the shield, I was like, why?

At first I was like, why is he not telling anyone?

Because that's going to bring people under suspicion.

But then when he explained it... Yeah.

..I was like, ah, this guy's an actual genius.

Mollie saw him get it, saw him not say anything.

Like, when is she going to start putting together

why he's behaving differently to everybody else?

Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

I think it's... It's like you say - we're getting to a later part

of the game where people have become closer and they've become friends

and people have formed bonds in there.

And the bond between Mollie and Harry, it was sort of...

We've talked about it a little bit before on the show, but it seems

to be way stronger than even we thought - in this episode,

they are clearly very good friends.

Yeah. He's doing things that are huge red flags

and she is just ignoring them, going,

"Well, Harry got the shield, but he told me not to say anything.

"I think it's really clever, so, you know, why would he keep it secret?"

She was like, "I trust him." And that's when I was...

Because there's so much stuff that's happening.

"I didn't want to leave without saying goodbye. I trust him."

Guys, you met 12 days ago. Behave yourself.

She actually said this as we were watching it. Get it together.

And even the way Harry went after Paul at the table,

the next morning, Mollie was going,

"Oh, you're amazing, you really went after him,

"you knew so much." Like, "But I'm not suspicious of you in any way."

At all!

I think Jaz is onto Harry... He is.

..because of the Paul discussion,

where Jaz said to Harry, "If I go tonight - if I die tonight -

"Paul's a traitor." Yeah.

And Harry went straight to Paul and told him, and Paul went back to Jaz

and said that. So Jaz has got this little connection in his head... Jaz is great.

..between Harry and Paul that no-one's listening to at the moment.

No. But no-one listens to Jaz. No-one listens to him, it's great.

It happened again. He did this with Paul for three episodes where he was

like, "I think it might be Paul." Everyone went, "Shut up, Jaz."

Paul WAS a Traitor. Then now he's going,

"I think Harry might be a Traitor." Everyone's going, "Shut up, Jaz."

Yeah! It's like... You're totally right, Ed. You're totally right.

You know in apocalypse films where there's one scientist being like,

"This is the end of the world!" Yeah!

And everyone's like, "No, it's not!"

Jaz is that guy. Jaz is that guy, but very rarely does the same

scientist have the same thing in the sequel.

Yes.

I actually think this moment where we find out Jaz is possibly

onto Harry might be worth reminding ourselves of,

so let's have a look.

Do you remember when I voted for Paul and he said,

"Right, Jaz, we need that chat."

So me and Paul sat over there.

He goes, "Harry has come up to me

"and told me that if you're murdered, Jaz,

"then I'm the Traitor."

And I'm thinking to myself, I did say that.

I told three people this -

them three people were Jasmine, Ross and Harry.

I told them all, "If I'm not here tomorrow, it's Paul."

Jasmine kept the loyalty.

Ross kept the loyalty, didn't tell anyone.

Now that we found out that Paul is a Traitor, that conversation

ought to have happened at a Traitors meeting.

Oh, he's wonderful. Wonderful!

I really love how paranoid he is, as well,

just, like, constantly looking.

But that is - that is hard evidence.

People are always talking about hard evidence in this game,

going, "I've got hard evidence for this -

"we need to vote for this person." It very rarely comes up.

That is hard evidence and everyone's ignoring him.

He's been like Poirot in there and people are just going,

"Shut up, Hercule." Honestly! Honestly.

He's really interesting, Jaz.

I mean, I think he's trying to do the same thing with Harry

that he did with Paul, where he knew earlier than everyone else,

and he's biding his time.

Do we think that's a good technique or tactic at this point in the show?

Because we're getting much later on. Is there time to bide time?

I don't think there is. I feel like it's decision time,

but also...it's so hard.

You could blink in a slower pace.

Everything is suspicious.

Yeah. So no matter what you do, if he changes it up now,

he would look suspicious. Yeah.

We need to talk about this mission in more detail

because it's so integral to what is going on right now

with Harry's plot. The cabin is back.

This is what's exciting.

The cabin is back from last year with a few more surprises.

Everyone was all over the place... A mess. ..and no-one really knew

what they were doing for the first sort of ten minutes or so.

For the first few minutes, Ross was doing my head in,

because of the light situation.

Oh, my goodness. He wouldn't... "Bit of water!" And he kept going,

"I've got to keep my hands on it. But, guys, take that.

"But I've got to keep my hands on it. But, guys, do this."

It was driving me insane.

Yeah.

We should talk about Charlotte in this mission, because I think

she really stepped up a gear in this mission.

She did. This is why I think it's devastating for her to go,

because I think she really came into her own in this.

She was totally fearless. She just threw herself into it.

While people were going, "Oh, rotten fruit. I don't want to touch that."

She was like, "Right, come on, you lot. Let's just get on with it."

Head first, almost. Yeah, she was really good at it, actually.

Yeah. I really do respect being in that scenario,

especially when it was dark - because, you know, Ross wasn't

holding the light - but when it's dark and you're still going, like,

she was putting her hands everywhere. Yeah. She didn't care.

She was just searching.

And I respect that because I would totally be the person behind her

being like, "You get it, babes.

"Have a look in that corner!" It couldn't be me.

Yeah, and Andrew struggled with it, wasn't he? Yeah.

Like, didn't he go down second or third and then just popped his head

back up like one of those Whac-A-Moles.

Well, it's all up for grabs next week.

We've obviously got a few episodes left next week.

Feels like it's going to be spicy. Do we have any predictions?

I think Ross is going to go. Oh! Don't put it in the atmosphere.

If he does, then it's a great move by the Traitors.

Yeah. It's a really good move. It would be fantastic.

And my prediction is, if Ross does go, as he leaves the round table

and leaves the room, he's going to turn the lights out.

I hate you so much.

I hate this guy.

Thanyia, any predictions?

Well, I'm going to lean heavily into your admission

that you are like Ross, and therefore, we know that your guys'

predictions are normally wrong.

So I'm going to predict... That's a fair point. That's a fair point.

..that Harry will be gone next week... Ooh! Ooh!

purely because he pulled too much... Yeah. Yes. ..and didn't recognise

that he was under attack by somebody in house.

Yes. Right. OK. All good predictions.

Well, Charlie and Charlotte will be with us shortly.

But first, let's have a look at the exclusive Uncloaked moment

when they met and found out who the Traitors actually are.

Charlie's angel at your service.

No way! Oh, my God!

Oh, it's so nice to see you.

I know so much about you and - I'm not going to lie -

I'm really nervous about this bit,

but I'd love to know whether you were a Faithful or a Traitor.

And if I'm a Traitor? I'm still going to love you.

It's OK. You're all right.

That's good news, but I am a Faithful.

Oh, no way!

You were a Faithful. I'm so, so sorry.

Mate, honestly, I told you at that table I would never be offended.

Just, you need to move past that. You need to understand

that I just love you, so I didn't care.

I'm so nervous, excited. I can't wait. Are you ready?

I'm ready! I'm ready.

I can't wait. Do it. Do it! Do it!

It's Harry.

It's... It's Harry.

No...way!

Look at me. We were coming to him with all of our theories...

All our bloody ideas!

I just think his theories were so elaborate, and he...

I always felt like I was on the back foot with him.

Like, how do you know so much?

They played us a good 'un.

Did Harry vote for any of the Traitors,

did he uncover any of the Traitors?

He did, didn't he? Yeah. Well, he pushed us in the Paul direction.

Yes! And Miles, obviously Paul pushed.

So they all just turned on each other one by one.

There was a conversation that I had with Harry about Andrew... Oh, yeah?

..and he was he kind of like, "No, I don't think so."

Andrew couldn't look at me when he put my name on the slate.

Diane and Harry. Like, everyone trusted Harry.

Everyone went to Harry.

Diane will be going mental when she finds out.

Oh, my God, I can't wait to find out what her reaction was.

So are you ready to see the next one?

I feel like I've got someone standing in front of me

ready to be banished.

Andrew.

Andrew, what did I just say?

Oh, my days!

We got him, we saved him from the... The boys club.

I think sometimes he's nearly screwed himself up.

That's what I was going to say, he's a risky move. He really is.

He's a real risky move. Can I be honest?

I think he's recruited to be sacrificed.

I mean, they've sacrificed other Traitors. Yeah!

So I've had it wrong the whole time!

And they're with us now - it's Charlie and Charlotte!

Welcome. Welcome to Uncloaked.

You were both absolutely brilliant players.

It's a pleasure to have you here. Oh, thank you.

Now, Charlotte, when you went into the round table, I feel like

you knew there was some heat on you.

I mean, you were having some pretty heated discussions

with Jasmine in particular, even before the round table.

Yes. Is... I want to know, is that a better position to be in,

to know that you're going to have to respond to something?

Or would you have preferred to be slightly more on the back foot?

In that occasion, I wanted to at the round table...

So she had asked...

She asked me that day when we was in the billiards room

and she said, "Would you..."

She said, "Do you want to know the reasons why I think this?"

And my response - I think it was a bit cocky, actually -

was like, "No, not really."

Which is a bit passive aggressive.

But then I was like - I did go on to obviously explain, you know,

I'd rather defend myself at the table because if I'm going

to sit here and then defend myself to you, you're going to go away -

if you are a Traitor, which I thought she was -

you're going to go away and think, right, I know how to respond

when we get to the table tonight.

So I'm just going to do it in front of everyone.

And if I have to go, I have to go.

But I knew that, with all the talking that had been going on,

and the unknown Traitor Harry that had obviously been instigating

quite a bit of stuff, that it was probably just going to be me anyway.

So I thought, I'll say what I've got to say,

I'll do what I've got to do.

I'll make sure people are aware that I love them.

And, yeah, if you want to send me, send me.

So you manage to separate that emotional connection

from the game, which I think is what made you a very good player.

Thank you. I mean, I probably need to be honest, I've...

I kind of knew in my gut that Paul was a Traitor for quite a long time.

But I also knew that if I was playing his biggest fan

with how he was playing to what I thought,

I knew he wouldn't kill me.

But then my theory was I'll get to the end and then out him

and do a bit like what Hannah was with Wilf.

I mean, Hannah was doing it obviously with Wilf, not on purpose.

Yeah! But, yeah, I was kind of thinking, well, you got to the end,

that's what I'm going to do with you.

But he was making such big irrational moves towards the end

that I just thought, this isn't necessarily going to be a shield

for much longer, so I think this is the time.

Yeah. He's so smart that if we...if we went straight in, then, yeah,

then he would think of a reason to defend it, wouldn't he?

Charlie, I feel like you were just like, hands behind your head

for the whole thing, just like... The whole time

..no-one suspected you at all.

Not one slate. I mean, I think there was no Traitor talk.

Did you not get one slate, no?

Not one slate. I didn't get a mention around the round table. No.

And, yeah, the Traitors didn't mention me right up until the end,

not even in a conversation.

So it's kind of amazing you lasted so long,

cos it was very clear from the off, really,

you weren't going to be banished. It was... No, no.

It was quite clear... Yeah. ..that I wasn't a Traitor.

And I think the main point that I wanted to make

was I wanted to be myself. And I feel like I did that. Yeah.

And I feel like I was almost like the mother hen,

making sure that everyone was OK.

And I think people need that in that situation

where you're kind of surrounded by people that you can't trust,

you don't know... You don't know what you're doing.

You don't know what mission we're going on,

whether people have been murdered. It's all very chaotic.

So I tried to be that stability for people.

It's kind of gameplay, you know?

And even though it was authentic and I genuinely meant all of it,

at the same time, I felt like people needed me in that way,

and that's why I feel that sometimes that kind of my name

wasn't mentioned, because it was that comfort. So that's actually...

..good advice for future Traitors, is to be mother hen.

Mother hen! Watch what you did in the game and just do that,

but as a Traitor. Yeah!

Charlotte, you were very set on Jasmine being a Traitor... Yes.

I was so wrong! ..the theory that she'd been recruited -

I think you were pretty sure she'd been recruited. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't think she was from the off, definitely not. Yeah.

However, the day before, me and Harry approached her,

and we simply said, like, "Look..." Not the day before, the day of it.

And we'd said, "Look, we think Paul, we think Paul, we think Paul,"

and I remember the word - cos it's a word I need to start using,

cos it's so sexy - she says, "It sounds very convoluted to me."

And I was like, "Mm, hello!"

So...

LAUGHTER

I'm going to Google what that means before I respond!

What DOES it mean?!

So, like, a bit far-fetched, you know what I mean? Oh, OK. Right.

Like, "I don't think it is."

She's like, "No, it sounds a bit convoluted to me."

And then we go to round table,

and she's like, "Jaz, Jaz, Jaz, Jaz, Jaz!"

And then she goes, "Paul." And I'm like, "You told me convoluted.

"I know that word. I know it, I remembered it, I stored it."

And then... And then we go, and then we've got Jaz

that she's gone, "Jaz, Jaz, Jaz!" And then she went, "Paul."

and I just thought, "You've been recruited.

"It's you who's been recruited. It must be you."

And also because she'd gone so off on me,

but also going around saying that she thought I was a bit, you know,

a bit suspect. So I was just like, "I'm so right."

And I think I remember when I was leaving, when I actually exited,

I thought, "Well, I'm taking you down with me cos now I'm a Faithful,

"they're going to think you're a Traitor!"

And then I was wrong anyway!

When we opened it, I thought, "Oh, God, I feel awful now!"

I want to hark back to a previous mission,

which is one of my highlights of the series. It was episode five...

I think I know where this is going! ..the catapult mission... Yeah.

..Charlie, the absolute star of that one.

Let's remind ourselves of that.

CLAUDIA: Go! This is my moment to shine.

All right, come on, then!

This is for Bristo-o-o-l!

LAUGHTER

Screaming!

And perfect aim.

CHEERING

Get in! I'm so happy!

I get emotional looking at it.

No matter what happens to me in this game,

that was the proudest moment of my life.

Aw! Baby, I'm so proud of you! I loved it so much.

And also it just... It feels like, actually, the only time

in this series where you've all been united doing something. Yeah.

Normally, the missions, everyone sort of comes together a little bit,

but there's been dissent in quite a lot of the missions.

This... That felt like the one where you were all working together,

and the fact that you topped it off by screaming

"this is for Bristol"... "This is for Bristol!" Yeah!

I just felt so blessed to be given the opportunity

to be able to do that.

It was a good job that I got the target, as well. Yeah...

Yeah, I think... Like, it was emotional when I did it,

it's emotional now when we play it back. Yeah.

Yeah, just, I'm always going to remember that.

And I always go a little bit soppy about it

cos it's not every day that that happens.

Well, I really think that the city of Bristol are missing out

if they don't get you to turn on the Christmas lights this year.

THEY LAUGH

"This is for Bristol!"

Can you imagine...? Don't invite Ross.

Cos he'll just turn them off!

Yeah, just pull the whole Christmas tree down.

You'll have a very dark Bristol in December!

Really good. Well, we've got some tweets about both of you.

I'm nervous. Oh, how exciting! THEY LAUGH

What, are you nervous? I'm excited! Two different reactions there.

Yeah! Well, this one's about Charlie -

" 'This is for Bristol!'

"Charlie ain't having to pay for her ciders in a pub now."

Wahey! "Stand that girl a pint."

Yes! Woo!

Are you a cider girl, Charlie? Yeah, well, I've got to be.

I can't say anything else, right?

I have to stay true. I have to stay true to Bristol.

I'm not sure how you feel about this one, Charlie -

"Charlie is giving me big Josie Gibson energy." Yes!

"Oo ar, my luverrrr." "Oo ar, my luverrrr."

Oo ar, my luverrrr. And that fills me with pride.

Aw! So, Josie Gibson, like, we need to...

We need to meet up, because that would just be fire.

Wouldn't it be great, to see Josie Gibson? Great night out. Yeah.

And Daisy May Cooper, I think... Yeah. You coming, Charlotte?

Of course I am. Babe, I'm moving in!

I just... Yeah.

LAUGHTER

I thought this was great - "Charlotte fascinates me.

"I feel like I need a six-part Netflix documentary about her life."

Yes! Wow! Yes!

Really? Wow! I would pay for an extra subscription.

So I've got another tweet here.

This is a tweet from someone who you might recognise -

Evie. Evie! This is a tweet from Evie -

"Not going to lie. Kind of glad for that round table

"cos people are finding out for the first time

"that me and Charlie are in fact two different people

"and not the same blonde person, loool."

So, I must admit, I have heard this and I'm...

I've actually been looking at some of the pictures...

..to which I... I contacted Evie,

because I am actually questioning whether we are related

because we look so alike!

And I said to Evie, I said, "It's funny

"cos I thought that you were beautiful, which, actually,

"you know, I can see why now!" THEY LAUGH

Screaming! Do you know what? I might gift you one of those ancestry kits

and let's see what comes up! I just... Mind blown.

I need to, yeah, have a conversation with my parents.

It would be a big move from the producers

to not only put in a secret mother and son, but also sisters

who didn't even know they were sisters... Didn't even know!

I know! A mic drop. That would be amazing!

Oh, my God, I really hope you're sisters now!

Now, we were gutted to see you go, of course, Charlie,

but I don't think we were as gutted as YOU were to go.

So let's just have a little reminder

of the moment you found out you'd been murdered.

SIGHS: Here we go.

"Dear, Charlie.

"By order of the Traitors, you have been murdered.

"Signed, the Traitors."

Oh, gutted! Gutted!

The game is over.

Aw...

I mean, the thing about murder is that you can't...

You don't get your chance to say goodbye.

And that's the hardest thing, that you're not able to...

..to say goodbye.

But what is quite nice is you both went out at the same time,

so you got to see each other almost immediately.

You couldn't have made that...

I know! ..any more perfect if you tried. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It just made it extra special. It was just really poetic, I felt.

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was very poetic.

But seeing you like that, that is really hard to watch. Aw!

But I'm all right now!

THEY LAUGH

So I want to end by playing one of my favourite moments

from you, Charlotte. This is an absolute belter.

All right. It's got to be one of the best lines of the series so far.

It sums everything up for me. Let's have a look.

Do you think we're all turning into psychopaths

cos we just deal with death so easily now?

THEY LAUGH

Jesus! I really think, if anyone hadn't seen The Traitors before,

I'd play them that line to distil the whole experience.

LAUGHTER

Absolutely nailed that! Definitely.

We've run out of time here, but we do not want to stop the chat,

so we are going to go over to BBC Sounds for an exclusive

bonus episode of Uncloaked.

Make sure you pop over there to listen to that.

We're going to be talking to Charlotte and Charlie -

and our guests, Thanyia and Jordan - about even more, including...

..now that they know what they know,

will they ever be able to trust Paul again?

But from our brilliant guests here - Thanyia, Jordan,

Charlotte, Charlie - thank you very much to those guys!

APPLAUSE

I've been Ed Gamble. Stay Faithful.

LAUGHTER