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Welcome to Traitors: Uncloaked, the official visualised podcast.

I'm your host, Ed Gamble,

and we are going to be talking about episode six of The Traitors,

and what an episode.

So if you've not seen episode six of The Traitors,

what are you doing here, you lunatic?

Get onto BBC iPlayer.

Watching Uncloaked before you've watched the actual main episode

is Traitor behaviour. Go away.

On the way, twinkle-toes newsreader Krishnan Guru-Murthy,

hilarious Traitors superfan Suzi Ruffell, plus we'll be hearing

from actual banished Anthony

and murdered Tracey from the show,

and we have the exclusive never-before-seen moment

that they both found out the identity of our Traitors.

APPLAUSE

This programme contains some strong language

It's a lot. We've got a lot to get through, guys.

Yeah. It's big. It's big stuff.

You are here, I think, on the most eventful episode, Suzi and Krishnan.

Krishnan, actually, we were going to ask you,

could you maybe summarise the events of tonight's episode

in a sort of news headline format?

A sort of a pre-title headline?

I think probably something like...

Madcap murder mystery as Traitors ask, seriously,

what does a poisoned chalice look like?

Oh, love it.

He's good, isn't he? That makes me want to watch the episode again.

That's so exciting.

So, it's the end of week two.

So much is happening.

It's really hotting up.

Some fascinating group dynamics in this episode in particular.

We've got a lot to talk about.

Spoilers are coming now, obviously.

Everyone's starting to suspect Zack.

Zack's suspecting Anthony.

Diane's not even sure if she can trust her own son, which is huge.

We've also had, possibly, one of the best Traitors missions

we've ever seen in the searchlights.

I certainly wouldn't be very good at it. But before all that,

we have to start at the end because, as we've just seen,

our Traitors were given a seemingly impossible extra mission.

"Traitors, tonight there will be no secret meeting in the turret.

"Instead, you must murder in plain sight."

Oh, my...diddly days.

"Before the night is through,

"you must decide with your fellow Traitors which Faithful to murder

"and give them the poisoned chalice."

"Oh, my diddly days!"

That's what they say in the army. Yeah!

LAUGHTER

That's it, that's it.

You're sat there in a horrible combat situation

and you go, "Oh, my diddly days."

I mean, look, the Traitors have been quite cocky

up until this point, I think, but they all seemed very nervous

about having to do this.

Yeah, they also... It was like a farce. Yeah.

Like, "Oh, God, we can't find the book!

"We can't find the book, the book!" Yeah.

It was a farce, it wasn't LIKE a farce.

Well, yeah, exactly. It was a total farce,

and I don't think that when they were given that mission

by the people who come up with these things,

that they were expecting the main issue to be finding the book.

Yeah. At one point Harry said,

"Oh, I've got to find the Shakespeare.

"I might have to call my mum."

It's like, do you think all Shakespeare books look the same?

Do you think your mum's going to know...?

And at one point Paul said,

"Is this the library?" when they were looking.

He didn't even know for sure whether they were in the library.

"This room with all the books. Is this the library?"

"This big book room library? I'm not sure."

Let's just talk about how Miles managed to convince the others

that it had to be him to do the murder. Here's a little clip.

Yeah.

But then they might be like, "Oh, wait, Miles was behind the bar

"and gave out the chalices, so surely one of them was poisoned,"

so it links it to you. But that might happen to me anyway,

because I've already poured out people's drinks today.

Have you?

Does this seem like a logical decision from Miles?

It's weirdly out of character, because he's the guy who steps back.

He is. Melts into the background.

He's the one who's under the least amount of suspicion

as a Traitor so far, I think. That's how we've been discussing Miles.

So, to put himself out there to do this,

does he just like being behind the bar

and he doesn't want anyone else to take that job?

"Well, I'm sort of the guy who's behind the bar

"and I know where everything is,

"so if you could not mess it up for me, that would be great."

I feel like it was a real error... Mm. ..and it makes me wonder

whether fingers are going to be pointed at him.

But there's a lot of errors in this.

I mean, this this was a brilliant task for them

because it forced them into a lot of errors.

Yeah, it really did, for the first time as well.

I think it's the first time we've seen Paul flustered.

Even going into that scene, I mean, they were flapping around. Yeah.

Looking around, looking so suspicious. So suspicious.

You're kind of thinking, "What on earth are you doing?" Yeah.

And then what do we think

about the way Miles tried to give the chalice to Diane?

Because that was who they'd decided on, clearly.

It was quite insistent. It was very insistent.

"Do you want the fizzy pink wine in this cup?" Yeah! "Are you sure?"

Look what I've got here. This is very exciting.

For BBC Sounds listeners,

I am holding the actual Shakespeare books from the show. Is it Macbeth?

Wow! Well, it's Macbeth, Hamlet and Othello, the three biggies.

Did Harry's mum find it?

Harry's mum's been into the studio.

She's let us know that this is the one we're looking for.

And if I look inside, boom!

Poisoned chalice. Wow! There it is. I'm going to get it out of here.

I mean, I found it a damn sight quicker than they managed.

I am actually now rethinking Miles,

because I'm the person who hands out the drinks

quite a lot in gatherings. Yeah, we've already had four.

I'm quite used to just putting drinks in people's hands.

So maybe Miles was thinking, "That's what I do.

"I put drinks in people's hands, and that's easy."

But he went about it in such a weird way, going, like,

"Oh, this one's fizzy. Who wants this one?"

And how did they decide on Diane?

I mean, is it because she's the only one who likes fizzy rose?

Is she going to die for the crime of being a summer-lovin' fun hon?

LAUGHTER

We don't know if she sips it.

This is the really important thing to say.

If anyone was suddenly at the last minute going to go,

"You know what, is there something funny going on?", it might be her.

Yes! Yeah. If Diane is the one to be murdered -

and, God, I hope she's not -

do we think that Ross is going to be able to cope?

I think he'll be fine,

more fine than had it been the other way round.

I worry that he just won't have anyone to cut his crusts off.

THEY LAUGH

We'll see. If Diane does go, we'll see how Ross reacts,

because I think he is coming into his own

a little bit as a Faithful now, which is,

you know, especially in this episode.

Yeah, but I wonder whether that means he's getting a bit bullish,

and that's when people get clipped.

Perhaps, because he's called out a couple of Faithfuls

who've then been banished.

Yeah. We had Anthony in this episode.

He called out Anthony, and Jonny previously as well.

So, are people going to start looking at Ross?

Diane certainly is. I mean, he's clearly as clueless as everyone

when it comes to calling out Traitors. For sure.

But he's quite good at acting himself.

We should talk about Harry as well, because previously on this show,

we've talked about Harry being in thrall to Paul a little bit.

Mm-hm. Paul's very much the one guiding the Traitors,

and Harry sort of goes along with what Paul says.

But I really think this is the episode

where Harry has marked himself out as a brilliant, brilliant Traitor.

We saw one particularly clever move.

I feel awful about this, Ross.

You mentioned Jonny to me,

and then you said just a sentence, right,

this is all it is, just a sentence. You went, "Please don't tell Jonny."

Like, for me, it was like you planted the seed

and then told me not to say anything.

So I'm sorry that I've got to say it, but that's my only truth.

I mean, I've already approached the person I think it is.

For everyone else around the Round Table, I've gone to Zack

because I've gone from the process of, like,

elimination where I've put everyone up as who I think's Faithful.

Just stunning. He's very clever.

He's really good. Really good,

because he waited for an example of how not to do it

and he said, "Oh, I've actually already approached the person."

It's so smart.

There was another moment as well in this episode

where he was talking to Andrew about Zack

and he used the term "bad Faithful".

He said, "Well, you know, even if he's a Traitor...

"..not a Traitor, he's a bad Faithful",

and was saying so much to Andrew,

and Andrew was sat there taking it in,

and then Andrew used the term "bad Faithful" at the Round Table.

He's pouring poison into people's ears.

This is Othello-level stuff.

He's smashing it.

Yeah. He's absolutely smashing it.

I mean, yeah, it's Othello or it's The Godfather.

I mean, it's amazing, I think, what he's doing,

but he's utterly treacherous.

We did have a sort of Godfathery-type moment with Paul,

because we've sort of dubbed him the Ginger Godfather on the show.

But I think this is maybe the time we're seeing Paul

fray around the edges a little bit.

Jaz has obviously got his sights set on Paul...

Yes. ..but is biding his time.

They had this sit-down where they sort of agreed

that they wouldn't vote for each other any more

and they didn't suspect each other,

but Jaz still really has his sights set on Paul, I think.

I want us to be tight.

And I want you to think

that I'm a Faithful,

and I want to think you're a Faithful.

But if I'm always looking at you

and you've always got me in your brain...

It's not working. ..then we're fucked.

I think Paul made an error there.

Yes. By saying, "I want you to think I'm a Faithful."

He should have said, "I want you to KNOW that I'm a Faithful."

This is so exciting, because Paul has been two steps ahead of everyone

up until this point, the last couple of episodes,

and now it feels like Jaz is one step ahead of him.

And it's so interesting to see that. Is that a foxtrot?

LAUGHTER

It's not far off, is it?

Slow, slow, quick, yes.

Um... Yeah, but also the fact

that Jaz has now got people's trust...

Yes, and I think it was amazing that he's revealed that...

..and it's a very sad story.

It's always interesting to hear people's reasons

for being on the show and their back stories.

I did think it was incredibly ironic

that Jaz was talking about his dad's secret family

whilst Diane was sat next to hers. Yeah!

Just waiting for Davina McCall to walk in. Yeah, exactly.

No, I think we need to keep an eye on Jaz.

I think he's turning into a very, very good Faithful

and is perhaps looking to take out Paul. Yeah.

Now, Anthony, of course, was banished in this episode.

It was very sad to see him go

because I thought he had an absolutely amazing episode.

Yes, agreed. I really came to love Anthony in this episode.

And we have to talk about his Round Table speech,

because if we're ranking Round Table speeches, it's up there for me.

Mm-hm.

This notion that basically when I was on the platform,

I was one way, and now I've changed and all of that -

you can see that, you know, if you've been around me,

especially those people who have spent time,

who've actually spent time with me,

one thing they'll see is that who I am has shone through consistently.

A lot of diversion is going on, OK?

And it's very interesting to me that there's a lot of talk

about people not bringing things to the Round Table,

but there's a lot of people

that haven't even spoke at this Round Table yet.

If you decide to put my name down there,

you're going to be 8-1 down.

Simple as that.

Think about that.

Let that one sink in.

You're going to be 8-1 down.

Yes, Anthony! So good! I would be so convinced by that.

How did that not work?

I would be just sat there being like, "Yes, Anthony, preach!

"8-1 down!"

I mean, he brought it. Yeah.

I mean, the thing he said about personalities,

I did want to pick up on that, because I think that is so true.

He said that you are deciding on who you want out

based on people's personalities,

not on whether you think they're a Traitor or not.

Just because someone rubs you up the wrong way,

it does not mean they're a Traitor.

But I think one of the really interesting things coming

out of this episode is how people fear power. Mm-hm.

There's more than one person in there who thinks Paul is a Traitor.

Yeah. But they dare not call them out around the Round Table

because they think he is too powerful.

This is how despots and dictators survive,

and you're seeing it on The Traitors.

It's really, really interesting.

It's like a cult of personality, almost, that...

It's not just...

It's cult of personality,

but it's fear of his power.

Yeah. They actually are scared to raise his name

because they think he will kill them.

Jaz has said as much, hasn't he?

He said, you know, that "If I die tonight,

"then you've got to look at Paul."

Yeah. So he's almost saying, "I daren't bring Paul up."

Exactly, and the whole point of that Round Table

is to air your frustrations or your fears and suspicions,

and they dare not point the finger.

Yeah. Because they think Paul is too powerful.

Do you think Paul is aware of that power that he's got?

I think Paul has a really big sense of self

and thinks he's controlling everything.

But, no, I don't think he realises

the extent to which people are afraid of him.

OK, well, we've got to talk about this mission

because it's the first night-time mission

we've seen this series, the grave-robbing mission.

The spotlights is an addition as well.

I mean, I know, Andrew was caught out straight away

just because he basically takes up the whole graveyard.

So it's just... Whoosh, straight across!

But we should talk about Miles on this mission,

because his approach was slightly controversial.

You guys, keep watching on the right-hand side.

Miles standing on the wall didn't help anyone.

Everyone's in different directions,

so if you're shouting where the spotlight is,

it's different for where everyone is.

I just think he really couldn't be arsed to get his hands dirty.

Eyes up! I don't know how he's helping. We can see where it comes,

so we all run out of the way and then we all go back. OK, yeah.

Gotta listen, guys.

So, yeah, he decided to take up

this supervisory role of eagle-eye view, shouting out encouragement,

and then saying where the spotlights were.

It didn't look good, did it?

Because he thinks he's become a leader. Yeah.

There was a task earlier on in the series where he was saying,

"Everybody just looks to me for leadership,"

so he's now convinced himself that he is a leader.

Well, he said that about the catapult mission.

He said, "Oh, people just seem to think I'm a leader."

And it's because he was holding the instructions

and reading them all out.

LAUGHTER

So that's why he's decided to take this role.

You know when you see those men that are very sad,

that shout at their sons playing football?

You know the ones I mean? They do it on the weekends.

Like every father. Yeah! That's like... Yeah.

And it was so useless. He'd be like, "Oh, you're in the light!"

"Yeah, I know that!" Like, I don't think he was helping at all.

We should talk about who I think we would all consider

the hero of the mission to be, and that was Diane... Yes.

..who absolutely smashed it, didn't she?

Yeah. She was running around, wasn't she? Yeah. She was brilliant.

I mean, it sort of made me more scared of her, the idea of -

because she's a retired teacher -

a strict teacher who can scuttle up behind you silently and quickly

is absolutely terrifying.

I think she was just absolutely brilliant.

It was the best mission, though, because it sort of, um...

It was quite exciting.

You genuinely didn't know

whether they were going to get anywhere or make any money.

Yeah, so many people went right at the beginning.

Yeah. You thought, "Maybe this is the one."

Now, someone who was definitely invested

in this mission was Claudia.

We've actually made a little montage of Claudia in this mission.

Brian!

Don't get caught!

Yes!

SHE SCREAMS

The light's coming!

Absolutely outstanding! I imagine that's what she's like

at Strictly as well, she's just off camera. Screaming, yes.

"Go on, Angela! Go on!" But this is the episode

where she became a player as well, though, didn't she? Yeah.

When she came in and told them off at breakfast... Yes.

About Tracey, yes. ..she sort of changed the mood immediately.

Yeah, she's very, very emotionally invested.

She was very angry they'd got rid of Jonny.

She was devastated that Tracey had been murdered.

She took... She took the picture with her. Yeah.

Just, yeah, fantastic to watch.

Very excitingly, it's nearly time to meet our banished player, Anthony,

and our murdered player, Tracey.

But before we do, we have our exclusive Uncloaked clip

of the moment in Scotland when they find out

who the Traitors actually are.

Wait till you see this.

Anthony!

Hi.

I am dying to know,

are you a Faithful or a Traitor?

What was bestowed upon me was...

..to be a Faithful.

Aww!

I am a Faithful.

Yes. I always was.

Here we are.

Two Faithfuls. Voted off the game.

I got basically blamed for your murder.

But we're both Faithful.

I'm desperate to find out who the Traitors are.

Let's do it. OK. Let's do it.

Are you ready?

Come on, hit me with it. Hit me with it.

SHE GASPS

What?

Who? No way!

No. No, that's a... that's a blindsided one.

Harry.

No!

THEY LAUGH

My God, no!

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!

No!

That is a blindside, isn't it?

I said, the one person... So did I!

..the one person who would gut me

if I found out they were a Traitor...

That's exactly what I said. The one person...

He's my surrogate son!

Honestly, I cannot believe it.

That one hurt deep. That one could bring a tear to my eye.

That's cut me to the quick. That one cut deep.

Right, let's go for it. We can do this.

All right, let's go for it. OK.

SHE LAUGHS

Oh, not another blindside.

Another blindside! Another blindside.

No way!

Miles.

Miles! What the...?!

KRISHNAN LAUGHS

No!

You sneaky...

But do you know what? Cos I sat next to him

at the Round Table, and every name

that was mentioned, he just kept saying,

"Oh, I don't know,

"I haven't had time to process it."

So he was quite suspicious that way.

But I'm not as shocked by him as I am about Harry.

Harry plotted my death, and he backed me as well.

Yeah. He went against Zack, backed me,

and then Miles voted for me.

Shall we see who's next, then?

I don't know if I can stand this any more.

I just feel like I'm just sinking lower...

I know! ..and lower and lower.

You were right with one of them. Paul.

I knew that! Yeah.

Good fella, but he'll knife you in the back.

There was always going to be a question mark

when he came out of the dungeon and not Meg...

Thank you. ..wasn't there?

But nobody wanted to take that one on.

At least I got one. Yeah, you got one.

One, at least. You got Paul.

I got zero.

I've got one, Paul.

Do you know what? Fair play.

They're playing a good game, aren't they?

Especially Harry.

LAUGHTER

And Anthony and Tracey

are with us now.

We're going to be talking to Tracey

remotely in just a little bit.

But first of all, let's talk to Anthony.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Welcome, Anthony.

Absolutely amazing.

You were clearly very surprised by a couple of those Traitors there.

Just a little bit.

LAUGHING

Just a little bit surprised.

How are you feeling now? Did you suspect Harry or Miles at all?

I mean, from the way he threw yourself off the chair there,

it would suggest not, but...

To be honest, Harry really blindsided me... Yeah.

..because we'd done a lot of missions together,

and he was, you know, somebody you want on your team. Mm-hm.

You know, if you're going to go into battle,

he's somebody you really want on your team.

You know, he worked so hard, and...

..and he actually took some time out with me, as well,

you know, on a one-to-one, personal level.

And, you know, I just didn't see him coming.

And what about Miles?

You seemed very surprised by Miles, as well.

Miles...

Oh, Milesy, Milesy, Milesy...

ED LAUGHS

Now, you see, with Miles, it was the fact that, you know,

he didn't... We didn't have that much of an interaction... Mm-hm.

..but he always managed to manipulate the crowd somehow.

And while staying far from me.

Yeah. You know, there was always... He stayed far from me.

So I didn't really... I wasn't just...

I just never had him on my radar.

I never was close enough with him

to pick up on anything, really, you know.

In hindsight, do you think he was keeping distance from you

because you were...? Like, I mean, you had your suspicions about Paul.

Yeah. So did you think that he was like, "I can't get too close"?

That could have well been a theory,

because at the time I was trying to work out who was associated

with Paul because I was dead set on Paul. Mm-hm. Yeah.

But I was just thinking, "Who is associated with him?"

But because Paul is so charismatic, he's so funny, the group love him,

he's a strong personality, it was difficult to work out

who was his bosom buddies.

Yes. You know, so...

But Miles...

ANTHONY HUFFS, THEY LAUGH

He passed undetected. Oh, God!

You know what? Kudos, well done, Miles.

Yeah. Well done, Miles. You played a great game.

Let's talk about your banishment and your epic Round Table speech.

What was going through your mind when you launched into that?

I mean, it's the best Round Table speech

we've seen this series, I think.

Why, thank you! Why, thank you!

No, I mean, I tell you what, I had it pictured in my mind.

I wanted to... If I'm going to go out, I want to go out like Scarface.

THEY LAUGH

I want to go out like Tony Montana on the balcony.

Yeah. That's what I want to go out.

So, I was like, if I'm going to go out,

I'm talking the truth, and I'm going to go out all guns blazing.

You certainly did that, and you certainly talked the truth,

because I don't think anyone else had vocalised that the tactic

at the moment amongst the Faithful seems to be getting rid of people

based on personalities, not whether they think they're Traitors or not.

And I was so happy that someone actually brought that up.

It was a highly, you know, emotional moment.

Were you angry?

Absolutely. I was furious!

Yeah. I was furious, cos I was like, "It's now or never."

You know, there comes a time

when you just know it's now or never.

Did you think you could turn it around in that moment

while you were making the speech?

Or, in your mind, were you like, "This is the end for me,

"I'm going to go out all guns blazing"?

Or did you think there was a chance

that speech might have saved things for you?

I always know, even in the worst situation,

try and keep your mind positive... Mm-hm.

..cos if you look for that grain of opportunity, it could be there.

So it was all out and this could be a moment to change things around.

And if it does, then I've...

You know, hopefully I can step out of the firing line

for one Round Table, at least. Yeah.

There was a lot of talk at this Round Table

about your personality changing

from the time people met you on the train platform,

before the Traitors were selected,

to after the Traitor selection,

people said your personality was different.

Could you see why people were saying that?

I...

SIGHS I guess to a certain degree, but...

It's really difficult.

In all fairness, it's really difficult,

cos you come to the game, and you think that you know

what's going to happen and how you're going to manage yourself,

and then you get thrown in the situation,

and you meet people and, you know, we can just have fun,

and then all of a sudden it's game time. Mm-hm.

And now if you sneeze, somebody is looking at you like that.

THEY LAUGH

You cough...

COUGHS

"He's got to be a Traitor."

Cos this is my opinion on it -

surely everyone's personalities change

from before the Traitor selection to after the Traitor selection,

cos you're either a Traitor or you're looking for a Traitor,

or you're worried that, as a Faithful,

people are going to think you're a Traitor,

so everyone must have changed.

So, to pick up with that on you

seemed particularly harsh, I felt.

Yeah. I mean, I thought...

You know what? It thought it was a copout. Yeah.

I was like, "OK, everybody's got to change,

"you know, we're changing in some way, some shape, some form."

It's natural. It's what's going to happen.

I can be two different people.

I can be that person who's analytical in a room.

I might seem aloof because I'm just being analytical.

I have to gather information.

It's all about intelligence gathering,

so I'm taking time to observe and see,

so that might make me appear aloof.

But then I can come into a situation and I can be charismatic

and I can get on with people, you know?

So... And that in itself might make me seem like I'm a Traitor, as well.

Now, we're about to speak to Tracey.

Did you ever suspect that Tracey might have been a Traitor?

Tracey was never on my radar as a Traitor.

Well, let's have a look at the moment that poor old Tracey

got biffed off at the top of this episode.

"Dear Tracey, by the order of the Traitors,

"you have been murdered.

"Signed, the Traitors."

A-a-a-ah!

Because my gift of seeing people's auras and being quite psychic,

I was going to be such an asset to the Faithfuls,

which is probably why they murdered me.

And joining us remotely, it's Tracey!

Welcome, Tracey.

Now, you said there in the VT

that we've just seen,

that you thought that people

might have murdered you because

of the sort of psychic element

to your life.

Do you think people were scared

of that part of part of your personality?

Well, to start with, I was telling everybody

that I had this gift

and I could read their auras.

And then I thought, "Hang on a minute, I'm going to be bumped off

"the first night at this rate."

So then I started really reining it in

and being really quiet about it.

So I wasn't really speaking about it

to any of the other contestants.

And I think a few of them were...

..will even be surprised.

Did it inform your strategy going into the game?

Because I know there's this aura reading skill

that you have, but also, you know, you work

for the NHS, you manage a very large team,

so there's lots of different strings

to your bow.

Was that all informing

how you attacked the game?

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, I'm used to being a manager,

I'm used to arguing with NHS managers.

ED CHUCKLES

And also I would like to say,

being a sonographer, I work in the dark,

and I felt like I was completely in the dark

the whole time I was in the castle.

ED LAUGHS

When we saw you find out

who the Traitors were,

Harry in particular

seemed to surprise you.

In fact, you referred to him

as a surrogate son.

How do you feel about Harry now,

knowing that he was a Traitor

and the relationship that you had

with him in the castle?

I was absolutely blindsided by Harry.

He is playing such a good game.

And, yeah, we had, like, a good

mother-son relationship.

We were so close, we would...we would chat to each other.

I literally never suspected him for a single, single second.

There was a lot of chat

about people's personalities changing,

as we've just talked to Anthony about,

from the day that you met

through to later on in the castle.

Did you see that happen?

As someone who can pick up

on these little changes in auras,

is that something that you observed in the castle?

Definitely.

And I was so confused

because everybody's aura is constantly changing.

And it becomes very...closed in and not as vibrant

if you're trying to hide something,

if you're trying to stay off the radar, if you're ill.

And so, like, literally, I saw everybody's auras

completely changed. And I was like, "It could be anybody. I've got..."

I was so clueless.

Is there anything that you

personally would have done different

to stay a little bit longer, Tracey?

Cos obviously being murdered

is such a difficult way

to go out of the game.

But do you think you would

have done anything differently

to maybe get yourself off the Traitors' radar?

I think it's so difficult to play.

Like, you can't be too loud, you can't be too quiet.

It's an incredibly difficult game. Yeah.

And being murdered is so annoying

because it's literally out of your control.

You know, if you're banished

or if you're under target at the Round Table,

at least you could fight for your life.

But, no, just...

You think you're going to bed,

but, no, you're being murdered instead.

Yeah.

ED CHUCKLES

We've got so much more that we want to talk

to our brilliant guests about,

so much more to discuss about this episode,

and, of course, Anthony and Tracey's experience on the Traitors.

See you over on BBC Sounds.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Thank you so much to my wonderful guests -

Suzi, Krishnan, Anthony, and Tracey.

APPLAUSE

And, of course, do join me on Wednesday after episode seven.

We are very excited.

Will Diane sip from the poisoned chalice?

It's so nerve-racking!

But, for now, I've been Ed Gamble - stay Faithful.