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This programme contains some strong language.
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Hello and welcome to The Traitors: Uncloaked.
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I am your host, Ed Gamble. Before we get started properly,
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should say massive, massive spoiler warning.
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If you're not up-to-date on this series of The Traitors,
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get yourself to BBC iPlayer and get caught up now,
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you massive weirdo,
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because we have so much to talk about on tonight's show.
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We will see the moment that banished Jonny and murdered Meg
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finally find out who the Traitors are
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and they'll both be with me in The Traitors Basement
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to discuss all things treachery,
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trickery and treason.
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Plus, to discuss tonight's explosive episode,
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I'll be joined by
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RuPaul's Drag Race star and Traitors superfan Danny Beard
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and season one Traitor and total legend Amanda.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Welcome, welcome and thank you for joining us once again
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in this castle-esque basement.
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We have got a lot to discuss on tonight's episode.
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It really, it really had it all.
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Claudia screaming into a megaphone at no-one in particular.
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I'm obsessed with how much Claudia screams.
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Especially in the missions,
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she absolutely loves a scream, doesn't she?
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Yeah. She's like the mother, isn't she, on sports day?
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She really is, yeah. You know, cheering her kids on.
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"Come on!" A particularly vicious mother at sports day,
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I would say. A vicious mother, yes.
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I'm still not over the scarecrow of Claudia.
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I want to know what's happened to the scarecrow of Claudia.
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Do you want it in your house? I want it outside me house.
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I'd never get broken into again!
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Well, before we go any further, we should talk about what happened
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at the end of tonight's nail-biting episode. Yeah.
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So, let's have a little reminder.
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OK, it's between Diane...
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Charlotte.
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And Tracey.
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# Who will save us? #
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This murder's perfect.
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It's a good move.
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100%.
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Let's do it. OK.
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I love this game.
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# Who will save us? #
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Well, they've decided someone from those three.
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And according to Harry, the murder's perfect.
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Who do we think it's going to be
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and who do we hope it's going to be?
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I think if they choose Charlotte, it would be...
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It's so random
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that it would throw everyone into a bit of a tizz in there.
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That would be a really random one, wouldn't it? Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah, it would. It would be like, well, why her?
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Yeah. So who's been connected to her?
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Who's been...? We've not heard a lot from Charlotte yet. No.
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She's played a pretty quiet game,
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so to kill her out of the blue would really mess people up.
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Yeah. And I wouldn't do the clairvoyant,
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because she might see it coming,
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even though she's seen nothing else coming so far.
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So, we're not hoping for Tracey.
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We're not... We're maybe hoping for Charlotte.
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I wouldn't mind if it was Tracey.
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She's not giving... She's not giving us nothing.
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And no offence, Amanda, but Diane's taking it for the gays now.
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Well... She is. I pass my crown on. You passed the crown on, hon.
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I pass my crown over.
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We, and I say we collectively,
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because I do speak on behalf
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of all the homosexuals in the country,
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we love her.
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Yeah. She's amazing.
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What is it about Diane that you love so much? She's just...
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You know if she was your teacher,
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she would be your enemy in Year Seven. 100%.
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Yeah, she's strong. There's 30-year-olds
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all round the country quivering... Yeah. ..seeing her on the telly.
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They're having flashbacks. Yeah.
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They're probably having to go back through therapy seeing her on telly.
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But it's just something about a strong woman... Yeah.
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I'd be scared to fart round Diane.
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Oh, yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't.
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She'd know what I'd had for dinner. Yeah, she would. She...
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LAUGHTER IN STUDIO
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You absolutely couldn't.
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"McDonald's?" Do you know what I mean?
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She is on it like a car bonnet.
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I love the example with McDonald's, as well. Well, cos that's all I eat.
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Unfortunately, it was Jonny who got banished tonight.
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I mean, I personally didn't really see this coming
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from the previous episode.
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It seems to have all happened so quickly.
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I think when one person is mentioned,
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it is like that bit of herd mentality.
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Everybody now is trying to save themselves, as well, aren't they?
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Yeah. So if they haven't really got a lot to go on,
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they jump onto the bandwagon, and yeah, unfortunately,
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I didn't see it coming.
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And I liked Jonny. Yeah, yeah. Jonny was a good boy.
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You've been there. Do you find that you all...
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Do you just jump in and think, "How can I save myself?"
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Because you see it flip on a coin and it annoys me.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, it can change...
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You know, you sort of have the chats throughout the day
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and then you think, "Right, OK, the majority is going to go
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"with a certain person."
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It can change round that table three or four times.
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Let's talk about Paul,
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because certainly Jaz really has his sights set on Paul now.
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Do we think that's going to come to fruition?
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Because he seems to be holding back a little bit as well,
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because he knows how much clout Paul's got, is what he said.
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I think Paul is really going to be in the spotlight now... Yeah.
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..so he's really got to pull it out of the bag.
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Yeah. I think he's going to do it, do you?
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I mean, the suspicions have started to come.
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So, let's actually have a little look at what Jaz said about Paul.
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So, please, if I'm not here tomorrow,
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remember this conversation.
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Bro, he's acting different,
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and he's too popular to be bringing his name up.
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Too popular.
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There's too much clout.
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It's a very smart move from Jaz... Yeah. Yeah. ..I think.
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To say that out loud,
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to voice your opinion and say,
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"If I'm killed tonight, then it's Paul,"
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it almost guarantees that he won't be killed.
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Exactly, yeah. Because he's the one saying that, right?
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But as long as Jaz knows he's saying it to
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someone who's going to tell Paul that.
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Yeah, well... And he is. He's saying it to Harry.
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Well, he's saying it to Harry. Guaranteed.
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The only thing with Paul is, I think he's playing it very clever,
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but I think he's going to turn even on Harry
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and Harry isn't going to be aware of that.
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I also think the whole point of The Traitors is, well,
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you're second-guessing, then you're third-guessing
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then you're fourth-guessing.
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You never know if something's a double bluff, a triple bluff,
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a however many bluff, you know? I'm not Carol Vorderman.
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So, it's how do we know he's not the Traitor?
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That's what my mind would be going.
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Yeah. You know? My mind would be going,
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"Well, how do we know Jaz is not the Traitor?"
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"If I'm not killed tonight," and then he turns up tomorrow,
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how are YOU not planting the seed?
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I mean, I'd be a paranoid mess if I was in there.
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Yeah. I'd have to be a Traitor.
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Oh, I had so much fun. Yeah.
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Yeah! I mean, you know, I've had five children.
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God, I'd a couple of weeks away. It was fantastic!
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I didn't care if I had to murder
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to have a couple of weeks away.
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You'd do anything for a free breakfast and a bit of, you know,
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a bit of time on your own after five children.
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So, no, I really enjoyed... This is why you're loved.
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Paul also got called out by Anthony at the round table... Yes.
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..and this was to do with their sort of botched plan.
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Now, the plan was obviously Paul was going to be saved,
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then they could they could kill Andrew,
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and then Meg would get banished.
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But obviously they saved Andrew,
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because Paul thought he was the most popular. Yes.
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So it's all gone a little bit wrong.
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But then when you see... This is why I think Paul's incredible.
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When they went back to the turret, Paul's reaction was,
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"It's worked, our plan's worked.
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It's like, "No, it hasn't. Your exact plan completely failed."
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Yeah, but he can't see that. He can't see that. Because to him...
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He wanted Ash out.
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She's gone.
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So, to him, that was his plan.
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Yes. I think that was his individual plan in his mind.
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Although he's playing Team Traitors,
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he's not Team Traitors.
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He's Team Paul. Team Paul. He's Team Paul. He's Team Paul.
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Absolutely. We're on the same page, guys.
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Yeah.
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Amanda, how many steps ahead were you as a Traitor?
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Were you doing things day by day,
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or were you thinking ahead like a game of chess?
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Oh, no. Day by day.
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Who was annoying me that day! But that didn't come across.
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I thought you had it all covered.
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I thought you absolutely had the whole thing planned.
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Cool as a cucumber. I know, I was in the chess club when I was younger,
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so perhaps something... Maybe that's it.
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..like that came through. I don't know.
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Yeah, but we've got that chess guy in there now.
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He's a chess coach, to be fair. Oh, he's a coach, is he? Yeah. Yeah.
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I think the best way to play a Traitor,
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I know it's a game of deception, but it's a game of trust. Mm-hm.
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You have to get people to trust you very quickly.
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And Paul has done that. Yeah.
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And that's what it's about.
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And as long as they trust you and believe in you,
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they believe any shit you're saying.
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Now, I want to talk about the missions,
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because despite sort of rising tensions amongst the group,
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they seem to have worked really well as a team today.
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Yeah, I think...
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You need the missions obviously to win the prize fund,
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but I think as a team it brings you together
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and it does just calm your mind down, as well.
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Mm-hm. You can observe other people.
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It's a good excuse for the Traitors to get rid of people
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that aren't participating.
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Yeah. You know, they can use that as an excuse as banishment
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to start sowing some seeds.
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But yeah, really, it's nice
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just to sort of calm down and be a team,
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but that's when the friendships,
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you could see them bonding more and more... Yeah.
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Totally. ..because they are totally relying on each other
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to pull this, the mission, together.
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And that's when their friendships are going to form
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and that's when it's going to get harder.
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Can I say, I think, as a viewer, the missions are where the Traitors
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let things slip?
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Because I think Harry's facial expressions in some of
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these missions have given it away.
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When they didn't get the shield for Paul...
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Yeah. ..he was visibly gutted. He was gutted, yeah. Yes.
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If I was in a one-mile radius, I feel, of Harry at that point,
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I think I'd have been onto him.
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Well, and in this episode he was offered, wasn't he, a shield,
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I think once or twice? And he just said,
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"No, it's OK," because he knows he's not going to get murdered.
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Yeah. And they gave it to Ross instead. Yes, yes. So...
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But I also think that was tactical of him to try and seem
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like a real team player.
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Yes, yeah. And, like, well, that's what a Faithful would do.
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I mean, there's always kind of a way of spinning it.
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Yeah. Yeah. "Well, that's what a Faithful would do. I'm Faithful."
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Yeah. I think tonight, though, the real star of the mission,
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for me, was Charlie.
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So, let's have another look at Charlie in the mission.
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This is for Bristol!
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CHEERING
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Get in!
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I'm so happy.
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Whoo!
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No matter what happens to me in this game,
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that was the proudest moment of my life.
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She's brilliant, and we've not heard a huge amount
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from her in the build-up... No.
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..but now she's really announced herself into the game, I think.
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Screaming, "This is for Bristol," at the top of her voice
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as she launches a catapult. Yeah.
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It was that slo-mo through the field for me. Yeah. It was like...
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I just want to see that slowed down and sexed up.
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I think she's going to be a dark horse.
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I think she is. She's going to come from, as you said,
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she hasn't put herself out there,
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because I think being a Faithful as well,
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you can't, you shouldn't be too loud
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and voice opinions too early in the game. Yeah.
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Because... Because that'll knock you out. Yeah, going to get you out.
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It'll target you.
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So, you know, she's going to come from behind
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when the time is right, I think.
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Because there are people
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that we haven't really talked about on this show yet. Yeah.
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But really that's a compliment in terms of gameplay.
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For sure. Because those are the people that are just going to
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sort of just be under the surface of the water for a little bit longer
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and hold out until those crucial moments, so... Yeah. We'll see.
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Someone who didn't hold out until the crucial moment was Meg...
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Aw! ..who was unfortunately murdered.
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She had to be murdered.
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That was their only option,
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because it was obviously between Paul and Meg at the end,
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because they were the two remaining dungeon dwellers.
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Yes. And so they had to kill Meg,
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but she already had a lot of suspicion on her
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as a potential Traitor,
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so I think she would have been banished.
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What do you think she was doing
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that had got all that suspicion onto her?
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I think it's what she wasn't doing.
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I think, I'm sure she's a really nice girl,
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and I actually can't wait to chat to her,
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you can be a really strong person
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and then you go into a room and there's five other people
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who are stronger characters than you,
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and it does something to people's, like, I don't know,
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psyche or whatever, and it changes. It does.
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And I think she just became within herself
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and that raised suspicion.
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And if you give an opinion, you have to back it up.
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Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, right at the start of tonight's episode,
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we got to see Ash reveal herself as a Traitor.
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Yeah. How would you assess her time as a Traitor?
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I think she was the weakest link. Mm.
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You know, did she deserve for the other Traitors
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to not stick by her so early?
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That's questionable, because I do believe we've got Team Faithfuls,
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Team Traitors, and we should...
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I know it's called Traitors, but we should keep sort of
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a team alliance for a certain amount of time.
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But she was...
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Yeah, she was the weakest link, definitely.
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Yeah. She was just giving... Her body language, everything,
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she was just giving too much away.
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She was. And having met her now on this show,
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she's just the most effusive, lovely person,
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very warm personality.
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But she really does give a lot away of her personality. Aw.
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I think she just immediately wants to talk to people.
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Yeah. And for some reason, that got a lot of suspicion onto her
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that she was going round asking people questions
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and trying to work out what the lay of the land was.
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Yeah. And that was the first port of call for her banishment.
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Yeah, she was trying too much to see what people's thoughts were
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rather than just letting it run a little bit.
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Let it run and just guide it gently. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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I also think the other Traitors stabbing her in the back
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this so, so, so early,
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it's opened the gates to say anything can happen.
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Does it feel more brutal, this series, do you think?
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Yeah. It feels so much more brutal. Yeah.
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I think from the off-start, everybody's in it for themselves.
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Yeah. Everyone, you know? And that comes across.
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Yeah. Definitely.
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It's exciting, though, as a viewer, isn't it? Yeah, it is, yeah.
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That first night this launched, I was like,
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"I'm just going to watch the first one.
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"Oh, go on, we'll just put two on. Oh, it's midnight.
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Oh, go on, we'll just... It was, like, two in the morning,
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three in the morning, I was pacing up in the bedroom,
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like, needing to see the next fix of it. I know.
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It's fantastic. It's the best show.
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I shouldn't say it, but it's the best show.
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Well, your video, if you were in The Traitors,
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would be you watching old episodes of The Traitors? Yeah.
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I mean, I wouldn't be sitting like this, let me tell you.
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It would be untucked!
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I think they would jump at the chance to have that.
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I think they should. I think they should.
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Yeah, they should. Yeah.
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Now we're going through this process today,
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I'm starting to think I'd be a crap Traitor,
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because I'm a bit like Ash.
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I like chatting to people. Yeah.
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I'm a bit too gobby and wear me heart on me sleeve.
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Oh, no, I think you'd be brilliant. What're you trying to say?
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I think you would, you know...
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Also, if any of them caught sight of you with your hood
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just pulled over your wig... Yeah. Yeah.
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..it'd be pretty obvious, wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
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Is that Claudia?
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LAUGHTER
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So, now is the moment you've all been waiting for,
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our Faithful murdered Meg and banished Jonny
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finally find out who the Traitors actually are.
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Now, do bear in mind,
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this was filmed the day after Meg and Jonny left the game,
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so Meg doesn't even know whether Jonny is a Traitor or not.
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Let's have a look.
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Jonny, what the hell?
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I know! Oh, my gosh! Come here.
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God!
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How you doing, babe? You all right?
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You got banished?
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I did. They banished me out!
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Your name didn't even get brought up when I was there.
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I know. Not once. I know.
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OK, Jonny, can you reveal if you're a Traitor or a Faithful?
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What do you think I am?
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I think you're a Faithful.
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Well, guess what?
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I'm a Faithful. Yay!
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Of course I'm a Faithful. I did think you were, to be fair.
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Never would have guessed. Do you want to do the honours? Yes!
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There you go. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness.
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Oh, my God. How close were we? How wrong were we?
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OK. Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God!
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First Traitor...
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..is Harry.
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Agh! Oh, my God!
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Do you know what? I actually... Fair play.
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Oh, I said his name as a joke. Did you?
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I've had question marks over him, but I tried to ignore it.
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It was because we were both in the army, as well.
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And I thought, hmm. In the trials, the missions,
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he's been phenomenal. Yeah.
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What a team player.
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Well, you know, he's been given a task and he's doing it.
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But does that make you change who else it could be?
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No. No, I'm still like... I don't know now!
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I mean, who hasn't spoke to Harry?
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That would be the next thing.
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Like, Jaz?
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Mm, Jaz is quiet, isn't he? Yeah.
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Paul, I don't think, really, much.
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He admires Harry, but...
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Well, come on, tell me!
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LAUGHTER
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It's Miles.
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Miles! Miles!
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I knew it could be him, because I didn't want it to be!
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Miles! Oh, clever guy.
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Oh, my God! Nice. Wow.
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You can just imagine them all meeting up with their cloaks on.
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Yeah. Backstabbing, you know.
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JONNY MIMICS TRAITORS CACKLING
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Stirring that pot. But I think, cos maybe the people they are,
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they're probably hating it inside as well.
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Or unless they're just cold and callous people.
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Miles, like, sits back at the round table
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and doesn't really say anything, does he?
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There you go. I did notice that. And Harry is very much similar.
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They just go with the flow. They do.
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That's the way they're playing it.
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Harry and Miles both voted for Ash,
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so they threw a Traitor under the bus. Mm.
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Very clever. That is smart.
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And they let everyone else make the decision,
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which is even worse. Very smart.
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Go on. Oh, my God!
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Put us out of our misery.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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You're joking! Paul.
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You're joking me!
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You're actually...
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LAUGHTER
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So, I had a feeling with Paul that he was using real emotions,
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do you know what I mean? Thinking about things... What an actor.
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What an actor. He was fantastic in the dungeon and all.
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I just thought he was a Faithful.
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Jesus Christ, so there was two Traitors down there
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and one upstairs.
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I mean, look, there they are in print.
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Oh, Harry, Miles and Paul.
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Well, they're a good Traitors team.
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They actually are. I actually... I can't mock that.
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CHEERING
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Yes, he knew it was Miles
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just seconds after reading it on a sheet of paper.
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Jonny joins us in the studio.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Jonny, welcome.
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So sad to see you go.
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Is it something that you were expecting?
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In my heart, I could feel an energy shift.
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And I was thinking,
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"Have I said something wrong? Have I done something?"
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You could just kind of pick up on the atmosphere change,
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so I had a small feeling that something was going to kick off
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round that round table.
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But you don't know until you're sat there.
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So, it's yes and no, to answer that.
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I think from our perspective,
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it all turned against you so quickly.
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Yes. Like, the previous episode,
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I don't think anyone was even really looking at you
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and then suddenly someone pipes up with...
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I think the issue was you were too nice.
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Yeah, I have that problem in life.
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It doesn't always do you good, does it, when you're too nice?
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Ross and Jasmine were quite strong characters in there,
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and the minute I went for them,
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that's where I shot myself in the foot. No pun intended.
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Can I ask, now you've seen it back,
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is there, like, a bit of sour grapes?
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Not at all. Oh, I would be. Really? I think.
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Oh, I think... I take my hat off to you. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, I bantered the moment, don't get me wrong.
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You buggers! I'd be fuming!
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You seem to suggest... Oh, he is so nice. Yeah, he's lovely.
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You seemed to suggest, in that in that VT that we just saw,
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that you did have suspicions about all of the Traitors.
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I thought everyone was a Traitor.
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I feel like... Who's a Traitor here? Everyone.
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No, I just... I... Because you don't know who's on your team,
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and that's what people don't realise.
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It's like Team Faithful, Team Traitors.
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Team Faithful don't know who's on their team. Mm-hm.
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So you're looking at everyone.
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And the minute I went to go and talk to someone, I was like,
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"Oh, no, that could be a Traitor I'm talking to." Yeah.
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So I naturally felt reserved,
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but I didn't want to be, but I just didn't know who to trust,
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so it was like that... It's the paranoia, isn't it?
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Yes, massively. It does really get to you.
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You wouldn't know you were a Traitor.
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Yes, I know, but I was trying to feel it. OK?
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You were trying to feel the paranoia.
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That's how method you were. Yeah.
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In your mindset, you were a Faithful.
497
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,120
I've never thought of it like that. How stupid am I that...
498
00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:39,400
Of course you don't know who's on your team. No. No.
499
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000
You said something very canny about Paul in that video, actually,
500
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,880
that you felt like he was using real emotions
501
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,320
and then putting them out in The Traitors... Yes.
502
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,080
..as if he was a Faithful.
503
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,960
And I think there was that moment where
504
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,440
he started to get a bit emotional.
505
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,440
He started to cry about going home to see his family. Mm-hm.
506
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,200
And I think that was a genuine emotion that he somehow managed...
507
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,440
Yes. ..to manipulate into looking like he was a Faithful.
508
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760
So, you know, I was very...
509
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,000
I related to Paul in the sense of, I've got two young children
510
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,600
and your emotions are up there compared to normal.
511
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,040
And, you know, you're tired, you're stressed, adrenaline's pumping.
512
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,760
And if I was just to think about my children,
513
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,240
I would have probably felt really emotional.
514
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,080
Yeah. So I... Even if it was...
515
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,680
I believe they were real emotions and I still do to this day,
516
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,360
because all he had to do was think of his children and he would get
517
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,920
upset because I knew that's what would happen if I did. Yeah.
518
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,120
So I tried my hardest to put them back,
519
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,200
and I think, when I saw Paul upset,
520
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,400
irregardless, they were real emotions and I could feel it.
521
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,080
And that's why it hit me hard as well, because he started talking
522
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,520
about his children and straight away, woof!
523
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,240
Yeah. I felt that as well, and that's why I was like, you know,
524
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,760
I've had to comfort him. You mentioned your relationship
525
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,200
with Harry, obviously, the Army link, the sort of...
526
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,320
I mean, I think Harry described it as a brotherhood... Yes.
527
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,360
..on the show. Naturally. Yeah, naturally,
528
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,880
which made him feel a little bit guilty
529
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,960
about having to go against you, but he did do it quite quickly, anyway.
530
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,840
Yeah, he did, didn't he?
531
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,840
ED CHUCKLES
532
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,480
When you think about it.
533
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,640
Do you think, if the roles were reversed, if you were a Traitor,
534
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,880
would you have been able to go against Harry in the same way?
535
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,360
That's a tough question.
536
00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:23,440
So the reason why I'm so understanding with Harry now
537
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,600
is because I was his age, his rank, and that's when I was still serving.
538
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,480
If I was given a task, irregardless of how I felt, how we're trained
539
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,800
in the army, you complete that mission.
540
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,200
You've been given a mission. You complete that mission.
541
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,720
But he had the squeeze on the shoulder, so he had to do a job.
542
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,240
He had to do it, yeah. I mean, irregardless of the fact
543
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,120
that he did vote for you at Banishment
544
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,960
and he knew that's what he was aiming to do...
545
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,120
Go on, stir the pot, babe. Go on, stir it!
546
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,480
No, I'm saying I think his emotions were genuine
547
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,520
and he did feel bad about it. Yeah, yes.
548
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,240
And we've actually got a little VT of his reaction after
549
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,080
you were banished. Aw! So let's have a little reminder of that.
550
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,360
Oh, God!
551
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,480
I'm, like, baffled. I'm completely baffled.
552
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,840
Harry, Harry, he still loves you.
553
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,040
Don't get upset.
554
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,400
Oh, bless him.
555
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,640
It's all good, Harry.
556
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,720
You've got to go with the brethrens.
557
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,240
OK?
558
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,760
Honestly, please don't beat yourself up, please.
559
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,200
It's so hard to see.
560
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040
How does watching that video of Harry make you feel?
561
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520
Because he clearly was cut up about it.
562
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,800
Yeah, I can feel the emotions in there, because...
563
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,680
I understand that feeling and I don't like seeing anyone upset,
564
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,000
especially when I'm involved in it.
565
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,800
It's hard to watch it back, to be honest.
566
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,440
There's a part of me...
567
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,280
Is he still on your Christmas list, though?
568
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,720
100%. Oh, is he? Yeah.
569
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,000
Wilf's not on mine.
570
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320
THEY LAUGH
571
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Only joking!
572
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000
I'm sandwiched between Traitor icons here.
573
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,720
I'm like the filling in a Traitors Oreo, and I'm loving it!
574
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,400
Well, you may have noticed at home that we're all wearing very fancy
575
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,800
earpieces in the studio.
576
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760
That is because we are about to speak to murdered Meg.
577
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,840
She is Zooming in live from heaven.
578
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,880
Hello, Meg.
579
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,960
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Hello!
580
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,800
Meg, you're not really in heaven, are you?
581
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,440
You're on holiday because you thought,
582
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,840
"Hey, I don't need to do Uncloaked. I'll go on me hols!"
583
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,480
Who needs heaven anyway, when you've got the sea anyway?
584
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,960
No-one needs it, do they?
585
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,240
Thank you so much for joining us.
586
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,800
Now, Meg, going back to the video of you finding out who the Traitors
587
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080
were, you seemed a little bit more surprised than Jonny was.
588
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,280
at who the Traitors were.
589
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,200
In fact, I think there was a big gasp for every single name.
590
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,680
Yeah, to be fair, like, I just had no idea at all, to be honest, ever.
591
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,800
I was always wrong.
592
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,360
Everyone I said, I was like, "No, not that one."
593
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,480
Or just, I'd have a new theory every day.
594
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,320
Just, in the end, I just went with it, to be honest.
595
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,440
Went with my gut, and that was that.
596
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,240
Even when you were in the dungeon with two Traitors,
597
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,800
so you're obviously in there with Andrew, who was a Faithful,
598
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,000
and then Paul and Ash, who were both Traitors,
599
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,680
you had all day in that dungeon with them,
600
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,360
did you start to suss out anything about them while you were in there?
601
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,680
Um, yeah.
602
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,240
To be fair, you do kind of start to... When you're vulnerable,
603
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,720
like, you're most vulnerable, they are as well in there.
604
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,400
It was quite a quite a complicated day, that, but, yeah,
605
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,160
it was just really unpleasant
606
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,520
and we all were in it together at that point.
607
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,600
But also, you know that they were kind of sussing you out as much
608
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560
as you were trying to suss them out. And under conditions like that,
609
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280
I just feel like none of it was accurate, to be honest, none of it.
610
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,320
Now, suspicion was building against you, Meg.
611
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,240
I think, you know, maybe your cards were numbered
612
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,680
even before you got murdered. There was a lot of suspicion
613
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,880
building up, especially as you were in the dungeon.
614
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,160
They thought you might have been the Traitor who'd put herself in there.
615
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,560
Now, Diane certainly had her laser-guided sights set on you.
616
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,960
Let's have a little reminder of what Diane said.
617
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,760
Hi, gorgeous. You OK? Yes, absolutely.
618
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,960
So if I go tomorrow, which I will do tonight,
619
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,920
these are your Traitors, OK?
620
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,200
Oh, God, here we go.
621
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480
I know you don't want to know what I've got to say, but honestly,
622
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,280
I think Ash, Meg and Anthony are Traitors.
623
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560
You think Meg? OK? I have thought for a few days.
624
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,640
There we go. That is the place any Traitors player would be fearful of.
625
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,120
But Meg and Anthony, she's... Again, Diane's had something
626
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,400
against Anthony from the beginning of the whole game.
627
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,280
But why do you think you had any suspicion building up against you,
628
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Meg, what was it? I mean, I'll be honest,
629
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,200
I was quite quiet in there at multiple points.
630
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,480
There were a lot bigger personalities than me,
631
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,200
and at points, I just thought, "Actually, it's probably better
632
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920
"to just keep my gob shut than open it."
633
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560
But maybe in certain moments I should have talked more.
634
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,200
But in general, I just never knew, because they were voting people
635
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,800
that talked too much... Exactly.
636
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,480
..and they were weighing people up that didn't talk at all.
637
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,360
So, you know, you never know how to be in there.
638
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,760
It was always very complicated,
639
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,800
and I just decided to just be on the back burner
640
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,440
and watch it all happen, to be honest.
641
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,000
Thank you both so much for coming on.
642
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,360
You're absolutely amazing players. It's a delight to meet you
643
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,120
and we're sorry to say goodbye to you so early.
644
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,320
Big round of applause for Jonny and Megan.
645
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
646
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480
OK, Danny and Amanda, I'm going to get some predictions from you now.
647
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,760
You two, keep quiet,
648
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680
just in case you've got privileged information, OK? Zip it.
649
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,640
Now, what do you think's going to happen in tomorrow night's show?
650
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,080
We've obviously...
651
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520
There's three people who could potentially be murdered.
652
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Who did we think it was going to be?
653
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,120
I think... Well, I think if they go for Charlotte,
654
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:27,120
it's going to disrupt the whole sort of... That's the smart move.
655
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,080
Yeah, smart move, and there'll be no sort of links
656
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840
which is just going to get everyone talking then, and it's like
657
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,920
a little firework going off in there, isn't it?
658
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Do you think they're going to get better at catching Traitors?
659
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,760
They've obviously got one, but then they started to talk about,
660
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,240
"We've got Ash. We can catch more Traitors now,
661
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960
"keep that momentum going." And then they banished Jonny. Yeah.
662
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,480
I think they get ahead of themselves so no, I don't.
663
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520
You don't? No, I don't. I think we're going to see the Traitors
664
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,120
get away with a little bit more.
665
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,520
I think Harry might come under suspicion of it.
666
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Do you? Yeah, I do.
667
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,720
Because although he's down now, I think the way he reacted,
668
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,440
people are going to...
669
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,760
There's a little, you know, seed been sown there
670
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,880
and you watch it grow. Yeah. I honestly think...
671
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Do you think people are going to start saying that was guilt?
672
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,720
Yeah, and I think if he does come up on that table,
673
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,040
Paul is just going to throw him under the bus. Oh, 100%, yeah.
674
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,320
He's not going to protect him.
675
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,880
But that's the very, very... That's the really lovely thing
676
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680
about this show, is that when they find a Traitor,
677
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,600
very exciting, you're rooting for them.
678
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,120
And then when the Traitors get away with it, it's delicious, isn't it?
679
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,400
Now, here's something very exciting.
680
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,000
You've heard our guests' predictions, but do you agree?
681
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,760
Well, now you can play along at home
682
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960
with our brand-new BBC Traitors Predictor game.
683
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,520
You can find it at...
684
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,880
..and you can predict what's going to happen in the next episode.
685
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,120
And of course, Episode 6 of the Traitors hits BBC One
686
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:57,520
and iPlayer at 9pm on Friday, with apparently, I've just been told
687
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,880
on my iPad... No, don't! ..a very tense cliffhanger ending.
688
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,760
Shock, horror!
689
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Every episode's a cliffhanger ending!
690
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Can you cope, Danny? I can't cope, no!
691
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,360
God! Danny, Amanda, Jonny and Meg, thank you so much for joining us.
692
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,800
You've been absolutely amazing.
693
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,600
But there's so much more that I want to keep talking to you about.
694
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,880
So we keep going on BBC Sounds.
695
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,200
We will have plenty more chat with these guys.
696
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,000
But for now from Traitors Uncloaked,
697
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,840
I'll see you after the next episode. I've been Ed Gamble. Stay faithful.
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