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This programme contains some strong language.

Hello and welcome to The Traitors: Uncloaked.

I am your host, Ed Gamble. Before we get started properly,

should say massive, massive spoiler warning.

If you're not up-to-date on this series of The Traitors,

get yourself to BBC iPlayer and get caught up now,

you massive weirdo,

because we have so much to talk about on tonight's show.

We will see the moment that banished Jonny and murdered Meg

finally find out who the Traitors are

and they'll both be with me in The Traitors Basement

to discuss all things treachery,

trickery and treason.

Plus, to discuss tonight's explosive episode,

I'll be joined by

RuPaul's Drag Race star and Traitors superfan Danny Beard

and season one Traitor and total legend Amanda.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Welcome, welcome and thank you for joining us once again

in this castle-esque basement.

We have got a lot to discuss on tonight's episode.

It really, it really had it all.

Claudia screaming into a megaphone at no-one in particular.

I'm obsessed with how much Claudia screams.

Especially in the missions,

she absolutely loves a scream, doesn't she?

Yeah. She's like the mother, isn't she, on sports day?

She really is, yeah. You know, cheering her kids on.

"Come on!" A particularly vicious mother at sports day,

I would say. A vicious mother, yes.

I'm still not over the scarecrow of Claudia.

I want to know what's happened to the scarecrow of Claudia.

Do you want it in your house? I want it outside me house.

I'd never get broken into again!

Well, before we go any further, we should talk about what happened

at the end of tonight's nail-biting episode. Yeah.

So, let's have a little reminder.

OK, it's between Diane...

Charlotte.

And Tracey.

# Who will save us? #

This murder's perfect.

It's a good move.

100%.

Let's do it. OK.

I love this game.

# Who will save us? #

Well, they've decided someone from those three.

And according to Harry, the murder's perfect.

Who do we think it's going to be

and who do we hope it's going to be?

I think if they choose Charlotte, it would be...

It's so random

that it would throw everyone into a bit of a tizz in there.

That would be a really random one, wouldn't it? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah, it would. It would be like, well, why her?

Yeah. So who's been connected to her?

Who's been...? We've not heard a lot from Charlotte yet. No.

She's played a pretty quiet game,

so to kill her out of the blue would really mess people up.

Yeah. And I wouldn't do the clairvoyant,

because she might see it coming,

even though she's seen nothing else coming so far.

So, we're not hoping for Tracey.

We're not... We're maybe hoping for Charlotte.

I wouldn't mind if it was Tracey.

She's not giving... She's not giving us nothing.

And no offence, Amanda, but Diane's taking it for the gays now.

Well... She is. I pass my crown on. You passed the crown on, hon.

I pass my crown over.

We, and I say we collectively,

because I do speak on behalf

of all the homosexuals in the country,

we love her.

Yeah. She's amazing.

What is it about Diane that you love so much? She's just...

You know if she was your teacher,

she would be your enemy in Year Seven. 100%.

Yeah, she's strong. There's 30-year-olds

all round the country quivering... Yeah. ..seeing her on the telly.

They're having flashbacks. Yeah.

They're probably having to go back through therapy seeing her on telly.

But it's just something about a strong woman... Yeah.

I'd be scared to fart round Diane.

Oh, yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't.

She'd know what I'd had for dinner. Yeah, she would. She...

LAUGHTER IN STUDIO

You absolutely couldn't.

"McDonald's?" Do you know what I mean?

She is on it like a car bonnet.

I love the example with McDonald's, as well. Well, cos that's all I eat.

Unfortunately, it was Jonny who got banished tonight.

I mean, I personally didn't really see this coming

from the previous episode.

It seems to have all happened so quickly.

I think when one person is mentioned,

it is like that bit of herd mentality.

Everybody now is trying to save themselves, as well, aren't they?

Yeah. So if they haven't really got a lot to go on,

they jump onto the bandwagon, and yeah, unfortunately,

I didn't see it coming.

And I liked Jonny. Yeah, yeah. Jonny was a good boy.

You've been there. Do you find that you all...

Do you just jump in and think, "How can I save myself?"

Because you see it flip on a coin and it annoys me.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, it can change...

You know, you sort of have the chats throughout the day

and then you think, "Right, OK, the majority is going to go

"with a certain person."

It can change round that table three or four times.

Let's talk about Paul,

because certainly Jaz really has his sights set on Paul now.

Do we think that's going to come to fruition?

Because he seems to be holding back a little bit as well,

because he knows how much clout Paul's got, is what he said.

I think Paul is really going to be in the spotlight now... Yeah.

..so he's really got to pull it out of the bag.

Yeah. I think he's going to do it, do you?

I mean, the suspicions have started to come.

So, let's actually have a little look at what Jaz said about Paul.

So, please, if I'm not here tomorrow,

remember this conversation.

Bro, he's acting different,

and he's too popular to be bringing his name up.

Too popular.

There's too much clout.

It's a very smart move from Jaz... Yeah. Yeah. ..I think.

To say that out loud,

to voice your opinion and say,

"If I'm killed tonight, then it's Paul,"

it almost guarantees that he won't be killed.

Exactly, yeah. Because he's the one saying that, right?

But as long as Jaz knows he's saying it to

someone who's going to tell Paul that.

Yeah, well... And he is. He's saying it to Harry.

Well, he's saying it to Harry. Guaranteed.

The only thing with Paul is, I think he's playing it very clever,

but I think he's going to turn even on Harry

and Harry isn't going to be aware of that.

I also think the whole point of The Traitors is, well,

you're second-guessing, then you're third-guessing

then you're fourth-guessing.

You never know if something's a double bluff, a triple bluff,

a however many bluff, you know? I'm not Carol Vorderman.

So, it's how do we know he's not the Traitor?

That's what my mind would be going.

Yeah. You know? My mind would be going,

"Well, how do we know Jaz is not the Traitor?"

"If I'm not killed tonight," and then he turns up tomorrow,

how are YOU not planting the seed?

I mean, I'd be a paranoid mess if I was in there.

Yeah. I'd have to be a Traitor.

Oh, I had so much fun. Yeah.

Yeah! I mean, you know, I've had five children.

God, I'd a couple of weeks away. It was fantastic!

I didn't care if I had to murder

to have a couple of weeks away.

You'd do anything for a free breakfast and a bit of, you know,

a bit of time on your own after five children.

So, no, I really enjoyed... This is why you're loved.

Paul also got called out by Anthony at the round table... Yes.

..and this was to do with their sort of botched plan.

Now, the plan was obviously Paul was going to be saved,

then they could they could kill Andrew,

and then Meg would get banished.

But obviously they saved Andrew,

because Paul thought he was the most popular. Yes.

So it's all gone a little bit wrong.

But then when you see... This is why I think Paul's incredible.

When they went back to the turret, Paul's reaction was,

"It's worked, our plan's worked.

It's like, "No, it hasn't. Your exact plan completely failed."

Yeah, but he can't see that. He can't see that. Because to him...

He wanted Ash out.

She's gone.

So, to him, that was his plan.

Yes. I think that was his individual plan in his mind.

Although he's playing Team Traitors,

he's not Team Traitors.

He's Team Paul. Team Paul. He's Team Paul. He's Team Paul.

Absolutely. We're on the same page, guys.

Yeah.

Amanda, how many steps ahead were you as a Traitor?

Were you doing things day by day,

or were you thinking ahead like a game of chess?

Oh, no. Day by day.

Who was annoying me that day! But that didn't come across.

I thought you had it all covered.

I thought you absolutely had the whole thing planned.

Cool as a cucumber. I know, I was in the chess club when I was younger,

so perhaps something... Maybe that's it.

..like that came through. I don't know.

Yeah, but we've got that chess guy in there now.

He's a chess coach, to be fair. Oh, he's a coach, is he? Yeah. Yeah.

I think the best way to play a Traitor,

I know it's a game of deception, but it's a game of trust. Mm-hm.

You have to get people to trust you very quickly.

And Paul has done that. Yeah.

And that's what it's about.

And as long as they trust you and believe in you,

they believe any shit you're saying.

Now, I want to talk about the missions,

because despite sort of rising tensions amongst the group,

they seem to have worked really well as a team today.

Yeah, I think...

You need the missions obviously to win the prize fund,

but I think as a team it brings you together

and it does just calm your mind down, as well.

Mm-hm. You can observe other people.

It's a good excuse for the Traitors to get rid of people

that aren't participating.

Yeah. You know, they can use that as an excuse as banishment

to start sowing some seeds.

But yeah, really, it's nice

just to sort of calm down and be a team,

but that's when the friendships,

you could see them bonding more and more... Yeah.

Totally. ..because they are totally relying on each other

to pull this, the mission, together.

And that's when their friendships are going to form

and that's when it's going to get harder.

Can I say, I think, as a viewer, the missions are where the Traitors

let things slip?

Because I think Harry's facial expressions in some of

these missions have given it away.

When they didn't get the shield for Paul...

Yeah. ..he was visibly gutted. He was gutted, yeah. Yes.

If I was in a one-mile radius, I feel, of Harry at that point,

I think I'd have been onto him.

Well, and in this episode he was offered, wasn't he, a shield,

I think once or twice? And he just said,

"No, it's OK," because he knows he's not going to get murdered.

Yeah. And they gave it to Ross instead. Yes, yes. So...

But I also think that was tactical of him to try and seem

like a real team player.

Yes, yeah. And, like, well, that's what a Faithful would do.

I mean, there's always kind of a way of spinning it.

Yeah. Yeah. "Well, that's what a Faithful would do. I'm Faithful."

Yeah. I think tonight, though, the real star of the mission,

for me, was Charlie.

So, let's have another look at Charlie in the mission.

This is for Bristol!

CHEERING

Get in!

I'm so happy.

Whoo!

No matter what happens to me in this game,

that was the proudest moment of my life.

She's brilliant, and we've not heard a huge amount

from her in the build-up... No.

..but now she's really announced herself into the game, I think.

Screaming, "This is for Bristol," at the top of her voice

as she launches a catapult. Yeah.

It was that slo-mo through the field for me. Yeah. It was like...

I just want to see that slowed down and sexed up.

I think she's going to be a dark horse.

I think she is. She's going to come from, as you said,

she hasn't put herself out there,

because I think being a Faithful as well,

you can't, you shouldn't be too loud

and voice opinions too early in the game. Yeah.

Because... Because that'll knock you out. Yeah, going to get you out.

It'll target you.

So, you know, she's going to come from behind

when the time is right, I think.

Because there are people

that we haven't really talked about on this show yet. Yeah.

But really that's a compliment in terms of gameplay.

For sure. Because those are the people that are just going to

sort of just be under the surface of the water for a little bit longer

and hold out until those crucial moments, so... Yeah. We'll see.

Someone who didn't hold out until the crucial moment was Meg...

Aw! ..who was unfortunately murdered.

She had to be murdered.

That was their only option,

because it was obviously between Paul and Meg at the end,

because they were the two remaining dungeon dwellers.

Yes. And so they had to kill Meg,

but she already had a lot of suspicion on her

as a potential Traitor,

so I think she would have been banished.

What do you think she was doing

that had got all that suspicion onto her?

I think it's what she wasn't doing.

I think, I'm sure she's a really nice girl,

and I actually can't wait to chat to her,

you can be a really strong person

and then you go into a room and there's five other people

who are stronger characters than you,

and it does something to people's, like, I don't know,

psyche or whatever, and it changes. It does.

And I think she just became within herself

and that raised suspicion.

And if you give an opinion, you have to back it up.

Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, right at the start of tonight's episode,

we got to see Ash reveal herself as a Traitor.

Yeah. How would you assess her time as a Traitor?

I think she was the weakest link. Mm.

You know, did she deserve for the other Traitors

to not stick by her so early?

That's questionable, because I do believe we've got Team Faithfuls,

Team Traitors, and we should...

I know it's called Traitors, but we should keep sort of

a team alliance for a certain amount of time.

But she was...

Yeah, she was the weakest link, definitely.

Yeah. She was just giving... Her body language, everything,

she was just giving too much away.

She was. And having met her now on this show,

she's just the most effusive, lovely person,

very warm personality.

But she really does give a lot away of her personality. Aw.

I think she just immediately wants to talk to people.

Yeah. And for some reason, that got a lot of suspicion onto her

that she was going round asking people questions

and trying to work out what the lay of the land was.

Yeah. And that was the first port of call for her banishment.

Yeah, she was trying too much to see what people's thoughts were

rather than just letting it run a little bit.

Let it run and just guide it gently. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I also think the other Traitors stabbing her in the back

this so, so, so early,

it's opened the gates to say anything can happen.

Does it feel more brutal, this series, do you think?

Yeah. It feels so much more brutal. Yeah.

I think from the off-start, everybody's in it for themselves.

Yeah. Everyone, you know? And that comes across.

Yeah. Definitely.

It's exciting, though, as a viewer, isn't it? Yeah, it is, yeah.

That first night this launched, I was like,

"I'm just going to watch the first one.

"Oh, go on, we'll just put two on. Oh, it's midnight.

Oh, go on, we'll just... It was, like, two in the morning,

three in the morning, I was pacing up in the bedroom,

like, needing to see the next fix of it. I know.

It's fantastic. It's the best show.

I shouldn't say it, but it's the best show.

Well, your video, if you were in The Traitors,

would be you watching old episodes of The Traitors? Yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't be sitting like this, let me tell you.

It would be untucked!

I think they would jump at the chance to have that.

I think they should. I think they should.

Yeah, they should. Yeah.

Now we're going through this process today,

I'm starting to think I'd be a crap Traitor,

because I'm a bit like Ash.

I like chatting to people. Yeah.

I'm a bit too gobby and wear me heart on me sleeve.

Oh, no, I think you'd be brilliant. What're you trying to say?

I think you would, you know...

Also, if any of them caught sight of you with your hood

just pulled over your wig... Yeah. Yeah.

..it'd be pretty obvious, wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Is that Claudia?

LAUGHTER

So, now is the moment you've all been waiting for,

our Faithful murdered Meg and banished Jonny

finally find out who the Traitors actually are.

Now, do bear in mind,

this was filmed the day after Meg and Jonny left the game,

so Meg doesn't even know whether Jonny is a Traitor or not.

Let's have a look.

Jonny, what the hell?

I know! Oh, my gosh! Come here.

God!

How you doing, babe? You all right?

You got banished?

I did. They banished me out!

Your name didn't even get brought up when I was there.

I know. Not once. I know.

OK, Jonny, can you reveal if you're a Traitor or a Faithful?

What do you think I am?

I think you're a Faithful.

Well, guess what?

I'm a Faithful. Yay!

Of course I'm a Faithful. I did think you were, to be fair.

Never would have guessed. Do you want to do the honours? Yes!

There you go. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, my God. How close were we? How wrong were we?

OK. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God!

First Traitor...

..is Harry.

Agh! Oh, my God!

Do you know what? I actually... Fair play.

Oh, I said his name as a joke. Did you?

I've had question marks over him, but I tried to ignore it.

It was because we were both in the army, as well.

And I thought, hmm. In the trials, the missions,

he's been phenomenal. Yeah.

What a team player.

Well, you know, he's been given a task and he's doing it.

But does that make you change who else it could be?

No. No, I'm still like... I don't know now!

I mean, who hasn't spoke to Harry?

That would be the next thing.

Like, Jaz?

Mm, Jaz is quiet, isn't he? Yeah.

Paul, I don't think, really, much.

He admires Harry, but...

Well, come on, tell me!

LAUGHTER

It's Miles.

Miles! Miles!

I knew it could be him, because I didn't want it to be!

Miles! Oh, clever guy.

Oh, my God! Nice. Wow.

You can just imagine them all meeting up with their cloaks on.

Yeah. Backstabbing, you know.

JONNY MIMICS TRAITORS CACKLING

Stirring that pot. But I think, cos maybe the people they are,

they're probably hating it inside as well.

Or unless they're just cold and callous people.

Miles, like, sits back at the round table

and doesn't really say anything, does he?

There you go. I did notice that. And Harry is very much similar.

They just go with the flow. They do.

That's the way they're playing it.

Harry and Miles both voted for Ash,

so they threw a Traitor under the bus. Mm.

Very clever. That is smart.

And they let everyone else make the decision,

which is even worse. Very smart.

Go on. Oh, my God!

Put us out of our misery.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

You're joking! Paul.

You're joking me!

You're actually...

LAUGHTER

So, I had a feeling with Paul that he was using real emotions,

do you know what I mean? Thinking about things... What an actor.

What an actor. He was fantastic in the dungeon and all.

I just thought he was a Faithful.

Jesus Christ, so there was two Traitors down there

and one upstairs.

I mean, look, there they are in print.

Oh, Harry, Miles and Paul.

Well, they're a good Traitors team.

They actually are. I actually... I can't mock that.

CHEERING

Yes, he knew it was Miles

just seconds after reading it on a sheet of paper.

Jonny joins us in the studio.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Jonny, welcome.

So sad to see you go.

Is it something that you were expecting?

In my heart, I could feel an energy shift.

And I was thinking,

"Have I said something wrong? Have I done something?"

You could just kind of pick up on the atmosphere change,

so I had a small feeling that something was going to kick off

round that round table.

But you don't know until you're sat there.

So, it's yes and no, to answer that.

I think from our perspective,

it all turned against you so quickly.

Yes. Like, the previous episode,

I don't think anyone was even really looking at you

and then suddenly someone pipes up with...

I think the issue was you were too nice.

Yeah, I have that problem in life.

It doesn't always do you good, does it, when you're too nice?

Ross and Jasmine were quite strong characters in there,

and the minute I went for them,

that's where I shot myself in the foot. No pun intended.

Can I ask, now you've seen it back,

is there, like, a bit of sour grapes?

Not at all. Oh, I would be. Really? I think.

Oh, I think... I take my hat off to you. Oh, yeah.

Oh, I bantered the moment, don't get me wrong.

You buggers! I'd be fuming!

You seem to suggest... Oh, he is so nice. Yeah, he's lovely.

You seemed to suggest, in that in that VT that we just saw,

that you did have suspicions about all of the Traitors.

I thought everyone was a Traitor.

I feel like... Who's a Traitor here? Everyone.

No, I just... I... Because you don't know who's on your team,

and that's what people don't realise.

It's like Team Faithful, Team Traitors.

Team Faithful don't know who's on their team. Mm-hm.

So you're looking at everyone.

And the minute I went to go and talk to someone, I was like,

"Oh, no, that could be a Traitor I'm talking to." Yeah.

So I naturally felt reserved,

but I didn't want to be, but I just didn't know who to trust,

so it was like that... It's the paranoia, isn't it?

Yes, massively. It does really get to you.

You wouldn't know you were a Traitor.

Yes, I know, but I was trying to feel it. OK?

You were trying to feel the paranoia.

That's how method you were. Yeah.

In your mindset, you were a Faithful.

I've never thought of it like that. How stupid am I that...

Of course you don't know who's on your team. No. No.

You said something very canny about Paul in that video, actually,

that you felt like he was using real emotions

and then putting them out in The Traitors... Yes.

..as if he was a Faithful.

And I think there was that moment where

he started to get a bit emotional.

He started to cry about going home to see his family. Mm-hm.

And I think that was a genuine emotion that he somehow managed...

Yes. ..to manipulate into looking like he was a Faithful.

So, you know, I was very...

I related to Paul in the sense of, I've got two young children

and your emotions are up there compared to normal.

And, you know, you're tired, you're stressed, adrenaline's pumping.

And if I was just to think about my children,

I would have probably felt really emotional.

Yeah. So I... Even if it was...

I believe they were real emotions and I still do to this day,

because all he had to do was think of his children and he would get

upset because I knew that's what would happen if I did. Yeah.

So I tried my hardest to put them back,

and I think, when I saw Paul upset,

irregardless, they were real emotions and I could feel it.

And that's why it hit me hard as well, because he started talking

about his children and straight away, woof!

Yeah. I felt that as well, and that's why I was like, you know,

I've had to comfort him. You mentioned your relationship

with Harry, obviously, the Army link, the sort of...

I mean, I think Harry described it as a brotherhood... Yes.

..on the show. Naturally. Yeah, naturally,

which made him feel a little bit guilty

about having to go against you, but he did do it quite quickly, anyway.

Yeah, he did, didn't he?

ED CHUCKLES

When you think about it.

Do you think, if the roles were reversed, if you were a Traitor,

would you have been able to go against Harry in the same way?

That's a tough question.

So the reason why I'm so understanding with Harry now

is because I was his age, his rank, and that's when I was still serving.

If I was given a task, irregardless of how I felt, how we're trained

in the army, you complete that mission.

You've been given a mission. You complete that mission.

But he had the squeeze on the shoulder, so he had to do a job.

He had to do it, yeah. I mean, irregardless of the fact

that he did vote for you at Banishment

and he knew that's what he was aiming to do...

Go on, stir the pot, babe. Go on, stir it!

No, I'm saying I think his emotions were genuine

and he did feel bad about it. Yeah, yes.

And we've actually got a little VT of his reaction after

you were banished. Aw! So let's have a little reminder of that.

Oh, God!

I'm, like, baffled. I'm completely baffled.

Harry, Harry, he still loves you.

Don't get upset.

Oh, bless him.

It's all good, Harry.

You've got to go with the brethrens.

OK?

Honestly, please don't beat yourself up, please.

It's so hard to see.

How does watching that video of Harry make you feel?

Because he clearly was cut up about it.

Yeah, I can feel the emotions in there, because...

I understand that feeling and I don't like seeing anyone upset,

especially when I'm involved in it.

It's hard to watch it back, to be honest.

There's a part of me...

Is he still on your Christmas list, though?

100%. Oh, is he? Yeah.

Wilf's not on mine.

THEY LAUGH

Only joking!

I'm sandwiched between Traitor icons here.

I'm like the filling in a Traitors Oreo, and I'm loving it!

Well, you may have noticed at home that we're all wearing very fancy

earpieces in the studio.

That is because we are about to speak to murdered Meg.

She is Zooming in live from heaven.

Hello, Meg.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Hello!

Meg, you're not really in heaven, are you?

You're on holiday because you thought,

"Hey, I don't need to do Uncloaked. I'll go on me hols!"

Who needs heaven anyway, when you've got the sea anyway?

No-one needs it, do they?

Thank you so much for joining us.

Now, Meg, going back to the video of you finding out who the Traitors

were, you seemed a little bit more surprised than Jonny was.

at who the Traitors were.

In fact, I think there was a big gasp for every single name.

Yeah, to be fair, like, I just had no idea at all, to be honest, ever.

I was always wrong.

Everyone I said, I was like, "No, not that one."

Or just, I'd have a new theory every day.

Just, in the end, I just went with it, to be honest.

Went with my gut, and that was that.

Even when you were in the dungeon with two Traitors,

so you're obviously in there with Andrew, who was a Faithful,

and then Paul and Ash, who were both Traitors,

you had all day in that dungeon with them,

did you start to suss out anything about them while you were in there?

Um, yeah.

To be fair, you do kind of start to... When you're vulnerable,

like, you're most vulnerable, they are as well in there.

It was quite a quite a complicated day, that, but, yeah,

it was just really unpleasant

and we all were in it together at that point.

But also, you know that they were kind of sussing you out as much

as you were trying to suss them out. And under conditions like that,

I just feel like none of it was accurate, to be honest, none of it.

Now, suspicion was building against you, Meg.

I think, you know, maybe your cards were numbered

even before you got murdered. There was a lot of suspicion

building up, especially as you were in the dungeon.

They thought you might have been the Traitor who'd put herself in there.

Now, Diane certainly had her laser-guided sights set on you.

Let's have a little reminder of what Diane said.

Hi, gorgeous. You OK? Yes, absolutely.

So if I go tomorrow, which I will do tonight,

these are your Traitors, OK?

Oh, God, here we go.

I know you don't want to know what I've got to say, but honestly,

I think Ash, Meg and Anthony are Traitors.

You think Meg? OK? I have thought for a few days.

There we go. That is the place any Traitors player would be fearful of.

But Meg and Anthony, she's... Again, Diane's had something

against Anthony from the beginning of the whole game.

But why do you think you had any suspicion building up against you,

Meg, what was it? I mean, I'll be honest,

I was quite quiet in there at multiple points.

There were a lot bigger personalities than me,

and at points, I just thought, "Actually, it's probably better

"to just keep my gob shut than open it."

But maybe in certain moments I should have talked more.

But in general, I just never knew, because they were voting people

that talked too much... Exactly.

..and they were weighing people up that didn't talk at all.

So, you know, you never know how to be in there.

It was always very complicated,

and I just decided to just be on the back burner

and watch it all happen, to be honest.

Thank you both so much for coming on.

You're absolutely amazing players. It's a delight to meet you

and we're sorry to say goodbye to you so early.

Big round of applause for Jonny and Megan.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

OK, Danny and Amanda, I'm going to get some predictions from you now.

You two, keep quiet,

just in case you've got privileged information, OK? Zip it.

Now, what do you think's going to happen in tomorrow night's show?

We've obviously...

There's three people who could potentially be murdered.

Who did we think it was going to be?

I think... Well, I think if they go for Charlotte,

it's going to disrupt the whole sort of... That's the smart move.

Yeah, smart move, and there'll be no sort of links

which is just going to get everyone talking then, and it's like

a little firework going off in there, isn't it?

Do you think they're going to get better at catching Traitors?

They've obviously got one, but then they started to talk about,

"We've got Ash. We can catch more Traitors now,

"keep that momentum going." And then they banished Jonny. Yeah.

I think they get ahead of themselves so no, I don't.

You don't? No, I don't. I think we're going to see the Traitors

get away with a little bit more.

I think Harry might come under suspicion of it.

Do you? Yeah, I do.

Because although he's down now, I think the way he reacted,

people are going to...

There's a little, you know, seed been sown there

and you watch it grow. Yeah. I honestly think...

Do you think people are going to start saying that was guilt?

Yeah, and I think if he does come up on that table,

Paul is just going to throw him under the bus. Oh, 100%, yeah.

He's not going to protect him.

But that's the very, very... That's the really lovely thing

about this show, is that when they find a Traitor,

very exciting, you're rooting for them.

And then when the Traitors get away with it, it's delicious, isn't it?

Now, here's something very exciting.

You've heard our guests' predictions, but do you agree?

Well, now you can play along at home

with our brand-new BBC Traitors Predictor game.

You can find it at...

..and you can predict what's going to happen in the next episode.

And of course, Episode 6 of the Traitors hits BBC One

and iPlayer at 9pm on Friday, with apparently, I've just been told

on my iPad... No, don't! ..a very tense cliffhanger ending.

Shock, horror!

Every episode's a cliffhanger ending!

Can you cope, Danny? I can't cope, no!

God! Danny, Amanda, Jonny and Meg, thank you so much for joining us.

You've been absolutely amazing.

But there's so much more that I want to keep talking to you about.

So we keep going on BBC Sounds.

We will have plenty more chat with these guys.

But for now from Traitors Uncloaked,

I'll see you after the next episode. I've been Ed Gamble. Stay faithful.