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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,350 --> 00:00:05,480 - Harlan, over here! 2 00:00:05,610 --> 00:00:07,480 - Ladies and gentlemen, Harlan Coben. 3 00:00:09,790 --> 00:00:11,140 - He's the greatest thriller writer. 4 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:13,830 - Aw, come on. 5 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:16,360 - Coben's written over 30 "New York Times" bestsellers. 6 00:00:16,490 --> 00:00:19,010 - With over a dozen hit TV shows and movies. 7 00:00:22,020 --> 00:00:24,060 - In all our stories, the same question-- 8 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:26,980 what made the killer cross that line? 9 00:00:37,550 --> 00:00:39,340 - I'm Harlan Coben. 10 00:00:39,470 --> 00:00:42,730 Often, the best mystery novels do not start with a murder; 11 00:00:42,860 --> 00:00:44,740 they start with a missing person. 12 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:47,480 When I hear those words crackle over a police scanner, 13 00:00:47,610 --> 00:00:49,830 a switch flips, the dots connect, 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,740 and I'm pulled into the void. 15 00:00:51,870 --> 00:00:53,000 That's why Nancy's disappearance 16 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:54,700 wouldn't leave me alone. 17 00:00:54,830 --> 00:00:56,490 She was the reliable one. 18 00:00:56,620 --> 00:00:58,880 She didn't miss appointments. 19 00:00:59,010 --> 00:01:01,750 Nancy wasn't the type to just vanish. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,410 And that's where our mystery begins. 21 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:08,240 - Nancy Woodrum's disappearance 22 00:01:08,370 --> 00:01:11,850 was extremely high-profile because stuff like that 23 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:14,070 doesn't happen in this county. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,940 - Deputies are still searching for clues 25 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:18,030 to find 62-year-old Nancy Woodrum, 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,380 who went missing on Friday. 27 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:21,990 - She had plans with a friend this morning 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,640 that she didn't show up for. 29 00:01:23,770 --> 00:01:25,690 - We had no idea what happened to her. 30 00:01:25,820 --> 00:01:26,690 She just vanished. 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,650 - You start looking around and questioning people. 32 00:01:32,780 --> 00:01:35,570 - In a case like this, anybody within a mile 33 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:37,480 is a person of interest. 34 00:01:37,610 --> 00:01:40,570 - Nancy owned a large property that 35 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:42,490 she was in the midst of selling. 36 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:45,620 - She had several arguments about money. 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,540 - You look at friends, family. 38 00:01:54,150 --> 00:01:56,940 - And that night, there was a large 39 00:01:57,070 --> 00:01:59,070 wedding party on the property. 40 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:04,510 - Could one of them be involved? 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,910 - The entire bridal party were suspects. 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,480 - Why can't we find her? 43 00:02:15,610 --> 00:02:16,650 Where is she? 44 00:02:18,260 --> 00:02:19,570 - Where's Nancy? 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,970 - A crime happened here. 46 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:30,320 The past isn't what it seemed. 47 00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:32,800 The story told turns out to be deception. 48 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:35,060 And just when you're sure you have the answer... 49 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:37,890 - 911, what is the address of your emergency? 50 00:02:38,020 --> 00:02:39,680 Hello? Anyone there? 51 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:42,850 - There's one final twist. 52 00:02:50,990 --> 00:02:55,170 - Paso Robles is wine country. 53 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:58,220 A lot of vineyards, a lot of ranches. 54 00:02:58,350 --> 00:03:02,660 People help each other, care about their neighbors. 55 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:06,180 You can leave your doors open. 56 00:03:06,310 --> 00:03:07,970 Everybody's like family around here. 57 00:03:11,140 --> 00:03:16,320 - At that time in Paso Robles, you knew mostly everybody. 58 00:03:16,450 --> 00:03:22,330 And Nancy Woodrum was known very well by a lot of people. 59 00:03:22,460 --> 00:03:25,330 - As a friend, Nancy was someone you could trust. 60 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:27,290 You could confide in her with things. 61 00:03:27,420 --> 00:03:32,950 And she was very gentle, very kind, always generous. 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,170 Tip your bartender good. 63 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:35,340 Tip your waitress good. 64 00:03:37,910 --> 00:03:42,700 - Nancy, her residence was beautiful. 65 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:45,440 It was an oasis. 66 00:03:45,570 --> 00:03:48,310 It felt like stepping back in time. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:55,190 There were horse corrals, a beautiful pool and spa. 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,020 - Nancy lived there with her husband. 69 00:03:59,150 --> 00:04:03,500 And then he passed away, leaving her the house. 70 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:07,500 Nancy was getting ready to sell it. 71 00:04:07,630 --> 00:04:10,900 She was in the process of fixing up 72 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:12,510 some different parts of the property. 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,900 And she put the house up for rent for wedding parties. 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:26,740 - We picked May 5th as our wedding day. 75 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:30,920 We rented Nancy's property from a rental site. 76 00:04:31,050 --> 00:04:33,790 It seemed just like the perfect place 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,400 to get ready with all of my best friends. 78 00:04:37,530 --> 00:04:41,100 - I stayed in the guest house with the bride 79 00:04:41,230 --> 00:04:43,710 and two other bridesmaids. 80 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,410 The bride had informed me that, if we need anything, 81 00:04:47,540 --> 00:04:49,980 the owner's right here, staying in the studio 82 00:04:50,110 --> 00:04:52,420 connected to our guest house. 83 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:58,900 - Nancy came across as a very kind-hearted and sweet woman, 84 00:04:59,030 --> 00:05:02,380 someone who gives you a hug right when you meet them, 85 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:07,690 and very welcoming and upbeat. 86 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:11,130 - On Friday night, we attended the rehearsal dinner 87 00:05:11,260 --> 00:05:12,790 at a local winery. 88 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:18,790 And then the day of the wedding, 89 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,450 it was the hustle and bustle of trying 90 00:05:21,580 --> 00:05:27,410 to get 11 bridesmaids and the mom of the bride ready. 91 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:30,410 Then we started taking pictures around the property. 92 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,110 And at that point, the golf cart pulled up. 93 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,200 It was Nancy's daughter. 94 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:45,040 She approached us and asked us if we had seen her mom. 95 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:49,870 She was like, her bed has been stripped. 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,610 Looks like there was a struggle in her room. 97 00:05:52,740 --> 00:05:55,440 There's blood. 98 00:05:55,570 --> 00:05:57,400 I remember looking at her and telling her, 99 00:05:57,530 --> 00:05:59,400 you need to call the police. 100 00:05:59,530 --> 00:06:02,750 You need to call the police. 101 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,530 I think I said it three times. 102 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:27,820 - Myself and another deputy were dispatched 103 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:30,910 to a possible missing persons case 104 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,520 at Nancy's house. 105 00:06:34,650 --> 00:06:37,570 - There were several things not right. 106 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:41,090 Nancy's daughter told the patrol deputies 107 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:45,440 that Nancy would never leave her sliding glass door open. 108 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:49,970 And when family arrived, the TV was on. 109 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:55,760 And Nancy would never go to bed or fall asleep with the TV on. 110 00:07:00,460 --> 00:07:04,810 - There was what appeared to be blood inside, on the floor, 111 00:07:04,940 --> 00:07:09,550 dried blood on the carpet, some on the wall. 112 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,430 There was bedding that was missing. 113 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,170 - And there was a decorative pillow 114 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:19,130 that had what appeared to be 115 00:07:19,260 --> 00:07:21,040 smeared dried blood on both sides of it. 116 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:28,230 At that time, I'd been in law enforcement for 20-some years, 117 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,970 and I'd seen plenty of crime scenes. 118 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:34,360 And this was a crime scene and not an accident. 119 00:07:37,190 --> 00:07:39,020 - It went from missing person 120 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:41,980 to potential homicide right away. 121 00:07:42,110 --> 00:07:44,980 You always hope for the best and prepare for the worst. 122 00:07:46,940 --> 00:07:52,860 - And then we learned there was a second scene. 123 00:07:52,990 --> 00:07:56,820 A patrol officer had located some bedding and clothing 124 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:59,740 out towards Highway 58. 125 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:04,390 Our lab confirmed that it belonged to Nancy Woodrum. 126 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,830 And some of it had blood on it. 127 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,310 - She was taken. 128 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,930 And we feared that Nancy was probably in a vehicle, 129 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:20,360 and somehow, that bedding had fallen out of that vehicle. 130 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,630 Tragically, she may be injured or, at the worst, dead. 131 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,330 - The unknown sparks our imagination, 132 00:08:30,460 --> 00:08:32,940 a million what-ifs to explore. 133 00:08:33,070 --> 00:08:36,600 But those first few hours are the most precious. 134 00:08:36,730 --> 00:08:38,990 Focus on the wrong what-ifs, 135 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,130 and the door of opportunity closes. 136 00:08:44,210 --> 00:08:46,960 - At Nancy's, I dusted for prints 137 00:08:47,090 --> 00:08:52,570 and collected several items that had blood on them. 138 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:55,360 And a little bit of blood on the pillow 139 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:59,270 had the shape of a handprint. 140 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,230 I collected items from her bathroom, 141 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,230 such as a toothbrush and a hairbrush, 142 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,110 so that we would be able to build a DNA profile. 143 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,720 We were able to determine that the female contributor 144 00:09:12,850 --> 00:09:15,900 on the blood on the pillow was Nancy. 145 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,640 And there was an unknown male contributor. 146 00:09:22,770 --> 00:09:26,870 - Whoever left that DNA, he's our suspect. 147 00:09:33,390 --> 00:09:35,700 - Forensic evidence is the silent detective in the room, 148 00:09:35,830 --> 00:09:37,480 but it doesn't work alone. 149 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,790 You can't clap with one hand. 150 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,880 DNA needs a match. 151 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:46,890 - When you get DNA evidence, 152 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:50,240 you can upload that into the CODIS databank 153 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:52,850 to see if there's anybody in CODIS 154 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:57,160 that matches that evidence. 155 00:09:57,290 --> 00:09:58,420 There was no match. 156 00:10:00,940 --> 00:10:03,600 - Now we have to determine, who does that actually belong to? 157 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:11,650 - At that point, we get Nancy's AT&T phone records. 158 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:14,830 One of the last people to have contact with Nancy Woodrum 159 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,050 was her son, Chad. 160 00:10:18,180 --> 00:10:22,010 There was a text conversation between the two of them 161 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:26,710 on Friday at about 7:30 in the evening. 162 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,500 So we know she was alive texting her son. 163 00:10:31,630 --> 00:10:34,630 And at midnight, 17, 164 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,720 there's a 911 call for 0 seconds. 165 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:44,900 So we feel like that's when 166 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:47,640 whoever went in her house went in her house, 167 00:10:47,770 --> 00:10:52,560 at midnight, 17, or shortly prior to that. 168 00:10:52,690 --> 00:10:55,260 - You're trying to figure out who saw her last 169 00:10:55,390 --> 00:10:57,740 and who people of interest are. 170 00:10:57,870 --> 00:11:01,660 That was a very difficult task here. 171 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:04,350 The night of her disappearance, 172 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,620 there's a whole bunch of people on the property. 173 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:14,490 - We, as the bridal party, were cast as the initial suspects. 174 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:17,150 - Saturday night, it took a couple hours 175 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,940 to interview the wedding party. 176 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:25,290 There was a couple of people that did see Nancy on Friday. 177 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:31,690 And then all of the guests had gone to the rehearsal dinner. 178 00:11:31,820 --> 00:11:35,300 - At the rehearsal dinner, people were drinking. 179 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:38,040 People do silly things when they're drinking. 180 00:11:38,170 --> 00:11:41,960 - And we did learn that one of the wedding guests 181 00:11:42,090 --> 00:11:45,870 told a detective that he stayed behind 182 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,880 and did not go to the rehearsal dinner. 183 00:11:50,010 --> 00:11:51,920 Why would you come all the way to a wedding 184 00:11:52,050 --> 00:11:53,840 and then stay back? 185 00:11:53,970 --> 00:11:57,580 He puts himself on the property alone with Nancy 186 00:11:57,710 --> 00:12:00,800 for five or six hours. 187 00:12:00,930 --> 00:12:03,070 According to the detective that spoke to him, 188 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,980 he was kind of exhibiting some suspicious behavior, 189 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:09,380 just a little excessive nervousness. 190 00:12:11,290 --> 00:12:15,250 So we went to re-interview him. 191 00:12:15,380 --> 00:12:18,860 - We just had a couple more questions to clarify. 192 00:12:18,990 --> 00:12:19,910 - Okay. 193 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:24,740 - Yeah. 194 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:03,210 - His wife provided pictures of him and her 195 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:05,170 at the rehearsal dinner. 196 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:07,780 There were phone date and time stamps. 197 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:10,570 It was very clear he was there. 198 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:13,830 We asked him for consent. 199 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,270 He very quickly volunteered his DNA. 200 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,620 And he's cleared by DNA. 201 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:25,190 - Never in a million years was there a thought 202 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,670 that anybody in that wedding party 203 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,590 was a part of or responsible for anything 204 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,630 that happened to Nancy. 205 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,640 We had our babies there. We had our families there. 206 00:13:37,770 --> 00:13:43,120 Everyone cooperated, and we were cleared. 207 00:13:43,250 --> 00:13:46,690 - We did get married that day. 208 00:13:46,820 --> 00:13:50,220 But it hit us really hard. 209 00:13:50,350 --> 00:13:56,830 I look back to my wedding, and I think of Nancy. 210 00:14:00,270 --> 00:14:03,450 - Each dead end means hours lost. 211 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:06,010 Each hour lost means a lifetime 212 00:14:06,140 --> 00:14:09,410 for criminals to cover their tracks. 213 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:11,890 - An update now on the missing woman in Paso Robles. 214 00:14:12,020 --> 00:14:14,330 Deputies are expanding their search. 215 00:14:14,460 --> 00:14:17,290 62-year-old Nancy Woodrum has been missing 216 00:14:17,420 --> 00:14:18,720 since Friday afternoon. 217 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,340 - At that point, the investigative team, 218 00:14:23,470 --> 00:14:26,030 they were developing leads to find out 219 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,690 who had been interacting with Nancy in the days 220 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:31,040 leading up to her disappearance. 221 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:34,740 - In any missing persons case, we talk to the family. 222 00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:36,830 - Where do you think something could have 223 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,000 gone wrong with your mom 224 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:41,140 and somebody would want to hurt her? 225 00:15:10,170 --> 00:15:12,080 - There was a realtor named Joe 226 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:16,170 who was a family friend, who, at one point, 227 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:19,700 had the listing for Nancy's house. 228 00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:22,740 - I had Nancy's house on the market 229 00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:24,920 maybe a year and a half ago. 230 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:47,810 - There was some hostility. 231 00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:49,420 He was very angry. 232 00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:05,570 - It's a $2 million property. 233 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:07,610 That's a lot of commission. 234 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:09,960 He felt like Nancy did him dirty. 235 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,330 - Everyone has a mask they show the world, 236 00:16:28,460 --> 00:16:32,770 the best version of themselves, the one who plays by the rules. 237 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:36,120 But it's an act, a performance. 238 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:38,780 Those who see the real face underneath the mask, 239 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:41,560 the messy reality, they're the ones who know 240 00:16:41,690 --> 00:16:43,910 how far we're willing to go. 241 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,090 The truth is never black and white. 242 00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:49,260 It lives in the murky grays where we each negotiate 243 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:53,830 our own version of right and wrong. 244 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,100 - Do you remember what type of threats Joe made? 245 00:17:02,450 --> 00:17:06,060 - While we were looking at Joe, the realtor, 246 00:17:06,190 --> 00:17:09,720 we did discover Nancy was also having issues 247 00:17:09,850 --> 00:17:12,550 with a contractor. 248 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,550 - They had some level of disagreement with Nancy 249 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,290 over the preparation for sale of the property. 250 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:24,690 - San Luis Obispo is a fairly small county. 251 00:17:24,820 --> 00:17:27,650 In law enforcement, you can become familiar 252 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:31,130 with what we call frequent flyers. 253 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:35,090 When we heard the name of the contractor, Shaun Blume, 254 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,180 most of us knew him. 255 00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:39,010 - He had a conviction. 256 00:17:42,970 --> 00:17:46,320 - I'm a general contractor, so I do pretty much 257 00:17:46,450 --> 00:17:48,370 all different phases of construction. 258 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,240 - There was a painter on the job site, Carlo Fuentes. 259 00:18:36,370 --> 00:18:37,720 We called Carlo. 260 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:41,850 He told us that he had met Nancy. 261 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:46,030 He described her as being very polite and very nice. 262 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,510 There was one time he was working late, 263 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,130 and she had brought him out some tamales 264 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:55,520 to eat while he was painting 265 00:18:55,650 --> 00:18:57,650 and they had a brief conversation. 266 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:15,320 - He confirmed, yeah, he had seen those two arguing. 267 00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:23,590 - Did Shaun push her? 268 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,120 Did she fall and hit her head? Did he freak out? 269 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:40,570 - We got DNA. 270 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,130 It doesn't match. 271 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:52,360 - And then when we spoke with the realtor, Joe, 272 00:19:52,490 --> 00:19:54,320 he had a confirmed alibi. 273 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:03,240 - He had 15 or 20 people that put him 274 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:06,160 out of the area on a trail ride. 275 00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:08,460 He could be taken off the list. 276 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,560 - So the wedding guest, the contractor, 277 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:19,390 and the realtor were ruled out. 278 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,570 - We cleared those people in a few weeks. 279 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:27,220 After that, it was a real big whodunit. 280 00:20:32,270 --> 00:20:35,050 - You wanna believe all the work hasn't been in vain. 281 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,580 But in those pursuits are clues, 282 00:20:37,710 --> 00:20:40,100 and they're adding up to something. 283 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:43,060 Or are you overthinking it? 284 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:45,630 - We looked at financial motive. 285 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,070 Who might stand to gain something 286 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,070 if she were to disappear? 287 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,160 - You have a potential sale of a property. 288 00:20:53,290 --> 00:20:54,900 Certainly, you have to put family in 289 00:20:55,030 --> 00:20:56,600 as a person of interest. 290 00:21:26,370 --> 00:21:28,630 - Nancy's son, Chad, was the last person 291 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,280 to have contact with her. 292 00:21:55,740 --> 00:21:58,050 - Nancy and her son didn't get along 293 00:21:58,180 --> 00:22:00,100 because of Nancy's faith. 294 00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:17,770 - Chad was very angry, didn't wanna talk to us, 295 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:19,860 didn't really wanna cooperate. 296 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:29,340 - Nancy's selling her property, 297 00:22:29,470 --> 00:22:32,080 and if something happened to Nancy, 298 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:34,220 you were in line to inherit what the property sold for. 299 00:23:05,860 --> 00:23:10,650 - He said he didn't want his DNA uploaded into the system. 300 00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:15,130 We told him how suspicious it makes him look, 301 00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:18,480 and he wouldn't budge. 302 00:23:18,610 --> 00:23:20,180 He was set in stone. 303 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:22,530 He would never give us his DNA. 304 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,450 - We see an empty chair at the dinner table, 305 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:39,670 and we think we have it all figured out-- 306 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,420 a mother's heartbreak, a son who no longer cares, 307 00:23:43,550 --> 00:23:45,810 a shattered relationship. 308 00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:47,680 Case closed. 309 00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:51,690 Or is that all just a little too obvious? 310 00:23:51,820 --> 00:23:56,430 - When was the last time you'd been out to her place? 311 00:23:59,910 --> 00:24:02,610 - Nancy's son, Chad, wanted nothing 312 00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:05,440 to do with the investigation. 313 00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:09,050 It seemed that he felt no love for his mother. 314 00:24:15,670 --> 00:24:19,450 - And he's just not a cooperative person. 315 00:24:19,580 --> 00:24:22,670 So we were watching Chad at work. 316 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,030 And at the end of his shift, he was drinking beers. 317 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,770 We seized the beer bottles and got his DNA. 318 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:37,430 It surprised me that DNA 319 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,470 ruled him out as a contributor to our evidence. 320 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:46,350 - I know there was some concern that Chad 321 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,130 wasn't as cooperative as he should have been, 322 00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:50,700 but his mother's gone, 323 00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:54,790 and the whole community is asking questions. 324 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,100 I just think it was his way of responding, 325 00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:59,060 of just self-protecting. 326 00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:05,670 - By around September, 327 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,160 we had kind of cleared most everybody. 328 00:25:10,290 --> 00:25:15,030 And there was a lull there where it was scary. 329 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,340 - People, quite frankly, were very afraid. 330 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:19,690 There was a perpetrator out there that 331 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:21,560 no one knew who they were. 332 00:25:21,690 --> 00:25:23,470 - I'd go on my walks, and all of a sudden, 333 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,130 it was like, I don't know if I should be walking alone, 334 00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:28,430 when I never felt that fear before. 335 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:32,180 - Her poster started being put up around the county. 336 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:33,660 And people, they'd ask, 337 00:25:33,790 --> 00:25:35,960 hey, any idea what's happened to Nancy? 338 00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:37,570 Any word? 339 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:38,970 - We reached out to the San Luis Obispo 340 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,930 County Sheriff's Office. 341 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:43,100 Unfortunately, no new details are available at this time. 342 00:25:43,230 --> 00:25:47,190 - I can't believe there hasn't been any more leads. 343 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,020 - The sheriff's office has a volunteer search and rescue. 344 00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:54,640 For weeks, they literally walked 345 00:25:54,770 --> 00:26:01,080 a good ten miles looking in culverts, looking in ditches. 346 00:26:01,210 --> 00:26:02,640 I've never seen anything like it. 347 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:07,560 - Unfortunately, none of those search parties 348 00:26:07,690 --> 00:26:09,480 ever turned up any evidence. 349 00:26:12,830 --> 00:26:16,700 - As time passes, fear quiets in the criminal. 350 00:26:16,830 --> 00:26:19,790 But for the detective, it grows. 351 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,100 And nothing is louder than the tick of the clock. 352 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:28,020 - Detectives were trying everything possible. 353 00:26:28,150 --> 00:26:30,540 Sometimes, you just have to have a lucky break. 354 00:26:32,890 --> 00:26:35,890 - At that time, one of our investigators 355 00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:39,290 had just returned from a new training 356 00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:43,640 about what is called a Google geofence. 357 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:46,950 - We were the first homicide case in California 358 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,390 that it was used. 359 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,740 Geofencing is a invisible line 360 00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:55,570 drawn around a particular area. 361 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,870 It will pick up on any electronic device 362 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,660 with a signal that comes in there. 363 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:04,100 We can detect that phone number and when that device 364 00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:06,970 entered that space. 365 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:10,540 - That night, on Nancy's property, 366 00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:12,800 there were guests with cell phones 367 00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:17,410 in the large house and in the small house next to Nancy's. 368 00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:20,940 - We have to be extremely precise. 369 00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:24,900 - So we put a little fence around Nancy's living area. 370 00:27:25,030 --> 00:27:28,550 - A 12-foot radius was its accuracy. 371 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:32,730 - And we asked for all the cell phones 372 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:38,650 that were in that area during the time frame of our crime. 373 00:27:38,780 --> 00:27:42,310 And we finally get the data back. 374 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,960 - We have a device that was there 375 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:46,620 at 1:00 in the morning time frame. 376 00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:49,310 It's not Nancy's device. 377 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:53,100 So who owns that cell phone? 378 00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:55,710 - It's kind of like a fingerprint. 379 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,410 - So now we get a search warrant 380 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:01,370 to figure out what that device is and who owns it. 381 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,070 - I am in the courthouse. 382 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,850 And my co-lead investigator, 383 00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:08,640 he says it's Carlo. 384 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:10,210 I said, what? 385 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,210 Who's Carlo? 386 00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:17,170 They said, that guy you talked to in July, the painter. 387 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:20,300 And I said, are you kidding me? 388 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,270 - When we think of mysteries, 389 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,490 we imagine the clues are tangible-- 390 00:28:32,620 --> 00:28:36,970 a footprint, a torn letter, a motive whispered in the dark. 391 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,450 But often the best leads can't be touched or seen-- 392 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:43,760 a ping, a digital echo. 393 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:46,680 The days of solving crimes in the pages of an old case file 394 00:28:46,810 --> 00:28:48,420 are behind us. 395 00:28:48,550 --> 00:28:51,990 And now everything depends on the data left behind. 396 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,900 Sometimes it's the only voice a victim has left. 397 00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:05,520 - When I started out my business, I was young. 398 00:29:05,650 --> 00:29:10,180 I was painting a home, and I needed help. 399 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:13,090 Carlo told me that a couple of years before, 400 00:29:13,220 --> 00:29:16,450 he had come to Paso Robles from Mexico. 401 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:19,970 He got married and became a citizen. 402 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,060 And now Carlo was working in the vineyards, 403 00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:25,320 and he was unhappy. 404 00:29:25,450 --> 00:29:28,590 So from there on out, he worked for me, 405 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,070 and I trained him to be a painter. 406 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,900 He was a really good worker, eager to learn. 407 00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:41,080 - He just had a nice, mellow demeanor. 408 00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:42,650 There was times there 409 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,080 where Carlo and I worked solely together 410 00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:48,830 for a long period where we were doing a lot of remodels 411 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,180 for a builder here locally. 412 00:29:51,310 --> 00:29:53,740 He was just always a good guy. 413 00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:56,050 - He'd be there from sunup to sundown. 414 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:59,530 And we developed a relationship. 415 00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:00,880 We would golf. 416 00:30:01,010 --> 00:30:04,190 He spent time with my in-laws. 417 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,840 He spent time with my family. 418 00:30:06,970 --> 00:30:08,980 - We did criminal histories. 419 00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:10,060 He had none. 420 00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:11,760 - We found out that 421 00:30:11,890 --> 00:30:14,420 his marriage was maybe a little troubled 422 00:30:14,550 --> 00:30:18,120 but nothing that really provided any red flags. 423 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:22,250 But we have the geofence putting him 424 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:25,780 on the property for two hours. 425 00:30:25,910 --> 00:30:28,000 What is Carlo Fuentes doing out there 426 00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:31,910 at 1:30 in the morning when Nancy goes missing? 427 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,570 - We followed him, trying to get a DNA sample. 428 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:41,490 Him and his wife had lunch, and he left a bottle of Coke. 429 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:46,140 We got his DNA from the Coke bottle. 430 00:30:46,270 --> 00:30:50,760 The bloody handprint on the pillow on Nancy's bed 431 00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:53,670 had male DNA. 432 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,110 They were able to determine that it was most likely 433 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,720 Carlo Fuentes' DNA. 434 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:08,430 - Finding the smoking gun is one thing. 435 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,300 Finding the hand that fired it, that's the hard part. 436 00:31:12,430 --> 00:31:16,300 The clue leads you to a name, a face, 437 00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:18,740 a life that doesn't fit. 438 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:22,350 And that's when you know the weapon is still out there, 439 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,880 waiting for its true master to be unmasked. 440 00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:29,400 - We have the DNA. 441 00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:32,840 We have the geofence. 442 00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:35,850 But if that's all you have, 443 00:31:35,980 --> 00:31:37,280 is that proof beyond a reasonable doubt 444 00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,890 that a homicide occurred? 445 00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:41,760 We don't have a body. 446 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,510 We have no idea what occurred. 447 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,030 Maybe she's in a basement somewhere. 448 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,030 What we know is that he's a suspect. 449 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,380 Let's talk to him as a suspect. 450 00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:56,390 - Yeah. 451 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,090 - In an interview like this, 452 00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:01,780 you have to build a lot of rapport. 453 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,830 - Nobody's gonna tell you anything 454 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,230 if they don't like you. 455 00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:23,760 - We just started collecting information from him. 456 00:32:23,890 --> 00:32:26,810 We spent an hour just talking. 457 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,260 - We brought up Nancy a little bit. 458 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:57,060 - And then when we felt like it was the right time, 459 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:58,620 we asked him... 460 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:45,300 - Carlo presumably knows what happened and where Nancy is. 461 00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:50,080 So they have to figure out an approach to get him to talk. 462 00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:34,380 - He smothered her with the pillow, 463 00:37:34,510 --> 00:37:39,080 rolls her up in blankets, carries her out to his truck. 464 00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:09,370 - The Carrizo Plains has a lot of animal activity. 465 00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:10,850 There's wild pigs, 466 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:14,900 there's coyotes, birds, turkey buzzards. 467 00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:25,040 - It took a while, but finally I see these rocks 468 00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:27,470 on the side of this hill. 469 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,560 And I see some bones. 470 00:38:30,690 --> 00:38:33,830 And I look up and see her skull. 471 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,920 She's there. 472 00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,180 - Because the dental was still there, 473 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,320 we were able to confirm that it was Nancy. 474 00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:50,320 - Although it didn't bring Nancy back, 475 00:38:50,450 --> 00:38:54,240 at least the family, they know what happened. 476 00:38:59,110 --> 00:39:03,810 - It was closure, and it was sadness. 477 00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:05,430 Because I think there's a little piece of you 478 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,170 that always hopes that they're somewhere, 479 00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:10,600 that they're gonna come walking in the door. 480 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:12,780 Sorry. 481 00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:16,520 I'm just thinking about what she had to endure 482 00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:18,870 and why someone would do that to her. 483 00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:25,310 - The confession, it's overwhelming evidence 484 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:26,660 of his guilt. 485 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,840 - Mr. Fuentes Flores was charged 486 00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:36,330 with first-degree murder committed during a rape. 487 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:39,590 - Carlo wanted to plead guilty from the get-go. 488 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,640 He did not want to put his family through a trial. 489 00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:49,030 And one thing that has always surprised me 490 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,860 is that he did this with no criminal history. 491 00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:11,930 - That evening, her daughter told me this, 492 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:15,890 that Nancy had called her and said the bridal party, 493 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:18,980 they arrived, they got their goodie bags. 494 00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:20,850 Everything is in control. 495 00:40:20,980 --> 00:40:23,460 I'm gonna make it an early night, 496 00:40:23,590 --> 00:40:26,510 and I'll see you tomorrow. 497 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,210 And how quick her whole life changed, 498 00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:35,040 and how quick the family's life changed 499 00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:38,130 because they'll be forever scarred by this. 500 00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:41,910 I would hope that this case will spare this 501 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,440 from happening again. 502 00:40:45,830 --> 00:40:47,790 - She was part of the community. 503 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,140 She had touched a lot of people. 504 00:40:51,570 --> 00:40:54,450 She's got her son, her daughter, her grandkids 505 00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:58,630 that'll keep her memory alive. 506 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,980 - I think about her a lot. 507 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:04,760 I will always remember Nancy's giving spirit. 508 00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:09,030 She was just-- she was light and love. 509 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:17,340 - Many of us imagine crossing that line 510 00:41:17,470 --> 00:41:19,300 and how we'd get away with it. 511 00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:23,170 Most quickly dismiss the idea, but there are those who don't. 512 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,040 They slip into double lives. 513 00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:26,740 And the thing about a double life, 514 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:29,530 as the characters in my books know all too well, 515 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:32,750 is that secrets and lies don't stay buried for long. 516 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,880 And by the time they surface, it's too late. 517 00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:40,010 Guilt is torture forever. 518 00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,100 But so is grief. 519 00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:44,020 Just ask the families. 520 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:45,890 I'm Harlan Coben. 521 00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:48,630 Good night. 37817

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