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- Harlan, over here!
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- Ladies and gentlemen, Harlan Coben.
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- He's the greatest thriller writer.
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- Aw, come on.
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- Coben's written over 30 "New York Times" bestsellers.
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- With over a dozen hit TV shows and movies.
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- In all our stories, the same question--
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what made the killer cross that line?
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- I'm Harlan Coben.
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Often, the best mystery novels do not start with a murder;
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they start with a missing person.
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When I hear those words crackle over a police scanner,
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a switch flips, the dots connect,
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and I'm pulled into the void.
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That's why Nancy's disappearance
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wouldn't leave me alone.
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She was the reliable one.
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She didn't miss appointments.
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Nancy wasn't the type to just vanish.
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And that's where our mystery begins.
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- Nancy Woodrum's disappearance
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was extremely high-profile because stuff like that
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doesn't happen in this county.
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- Deputies are still searching for clues
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to find 62-year-old Nancy Woodrum,
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who went missing on Friday.
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- She had plans with a friend this morning
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that she didn't show up for.
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- We had no idea what happened to her.
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She just vanished.
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- You start looking around and questioning people.
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- In a case like this, anybody within a mile
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is a person of interest.
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- Nancy owned a large property that
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she was in the midst of selling.
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- She had several arguments about money.
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- You look at friends, family.
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- And that night, there was a large
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wedding party on the property.
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- Could one of them be involved?
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- The entire bridal party were suspects.
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- Why can't we find her?
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Where is she?
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- Where's Nancy?
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- A crime happened here.
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The past isn't what it seemed.
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The story told turns out to be deception.
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And just when you're sure you have the answer...
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- 911, what is the address of your emergency?
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Hello? Anyone there?
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- There's one final twist.
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- Paso Robles is wine country.
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A lot of vineyards, a lot of ranches.
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People help each other, care about their neighbors.
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You can leave your doors open.
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Everybody's like family around here.
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- At that time in Paso Robles, you knew mostly everybody.
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And Nancy Woodrum was known very well by a lot of people.
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- As a friend, Nancy was someone you could trust.
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You could confide in her with things.
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And she was very gentle, very kind, always generous.
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Tip your bartender good.
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Tip your waitress good.
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- Nancy, her residence was beautiful.
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It was an oasis.
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It felt like stepping back in time.
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There were horse corrals, a beautiful pool and spa.
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- Nancy lived there with her husband.
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And then he passed away, leaving her the house.
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Nancy was getting ready to sell it.
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She was in the process of fixing up
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some different parts of the property.
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And she put the house up for rent for wedding parties.
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- We picked May 5th as our wedding day.
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We rented Nancy's property from a rental site.
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It seemed just like the perfect place
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to get ready with all of my best friends.
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- I stayed in the guest house with the bride
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and two other bridesmaids.
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The bride had informed me that, if we need anything,
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the owner's right here, staying in the studio
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connected to our guest house.
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- Nancy came across as a very kind-hearted and sweet woman,
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someone who gives you a hug right when you meet them,
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and very welcoming and upbeat.
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- On Friday night, we attended the rehearsal dinner
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at a local winery.
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And then the day of the wedding,
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it was the hustle and bustle of trying
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to get 11 bridesmaids and the mom of the bride ready.
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Then we started taking pictures around the property.
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And at that point, the golf cart pulled up.
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It was Nancy's daughter.
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She approached us and asked us if we had seen her mom.
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She was like, her bed has been stripped.
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Looks like there was a struggle in her room.
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There's blood.
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I remember looking at her and telling her,
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you need to call the police.
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You need to call the police.
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I think I said it three times.
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- Myself and another deputy were dispatched
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to a possible missing persons case
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at Nancy's house.
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- There were several things not right.
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Nancy's daughter told the patrol deputies
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that Nancy would never leave her sliding glass door open.
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And when family arrived, the TV was on.
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And Nancy would never go to bed or fall asleep with the TV on.
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- There was what appeared to be blood inside, on the floor,
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dried blood on the carpet, some on the wall.
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There was bedding that was missing.
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- And there was a decorative pillow
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that had what appeared to be
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smeared dried blood on both sides of it.
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At that time, I'd been in law enforcement for 20-some years,
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and I'd seen plenty of crime scenes.
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And this was a crime scene and not an accident.
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- It went from missing person
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to potential homicide right away.
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You always hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
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- And then we learned there was a second scene.
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A patrol officer had located some bedding and clothing
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out towards Highway 58.
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Our lab confirmed that it belonged to Nancy Woodrum.
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And some of it had blood on it.
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- She was taken.
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And we feared that Nancy was probably in a vehicle,
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and somehow, that bedding had fallen out of that vehicle.
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Tragically, she may be injured or, at the worst, dead.
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- The unknown sparks our imagination,
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a million what-ifs to explore.
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But those first few hours are the most precious.
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Focus on the wrong what-ifs,
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and the door of opportunity closes.
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- At Nancy's, I dusted for prints
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and collected several items that had blood on them.
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And a little bit of blood on the pillow
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had the shape of a handprint.
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I collected items from her bathroom,
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such as a toothbrush and a hairbrush,
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so that we would be able to build a DNA profile.
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We were able to determine that the female contributor
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on the blood on the pillow was Nancy.
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And there was an unknown male contributor.
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- Whoever left that DNA, he's our suspect.
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- Forensic evidence is the silent detective in the room,
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but it doesn't work alone.
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You can't clap with one hand.
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DNA needs a match.
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- When you get DNA evidence,
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you can upload that into the CODIS databank
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to see if there's anybody in CODIS
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that matches that evidence.
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There was no match.
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- Now we have to determine, who does that actually belong to?
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- At that point, we get Nancy's AT&T phone records.
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One of the last people to have contact with Nancy Woodrum
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was her son, Chad.
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There was a text conversation between the two of them
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on Friday at about 7:30 in the evening.
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So we know she was alive texting her son.
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And at midnight, 17,
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there's a 911 call for 0 seconds.
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So we feel like that's when
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whoever went in her house went in her house,
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at midnight, 17, or shortly prior to that.
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- You're trying to figure out who saw her last
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and who people of interest are.
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That was a very difficult task here.
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The night of her disappearance,
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there's a whole bunch of people on the property.
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- We, as the bridal party, were cast as the initial suspects.
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- Saturday night, it took a couple hours
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to interview the wedding party.
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There was a couple of people that did see Nancy on Friday.
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And then all of the guests had gone to the rehearsal dinner.
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- At the rehearsal dinner, people were drinking.
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People do silly things when they're drinking.
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- And we did learn that one of the wedding guests
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told a detective that he stayed behind
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and did not go to the rehearsal dinner.
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Why would you come all the way to a wedding
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and then stay back?
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He puts himself on the property alone with Nancy
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for five or six hours.
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According to the detective that spoke to him,
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he was kind of exhibiting some suspicious behavior,
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just a little excessive nervousness.
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So we went to re-interview him.
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- We just had a couple more questions to clarify.
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- Okay.
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- Yeah.
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- His wife provided pictures of him and her
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at the rehearsal dinner.
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There were phone date and time stamps.
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It was very clear he was there.
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We asked him for consent.
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He very quickly volunteered his DNA.
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And he's cleared by DNA.
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- Never in a million years was there a thought
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that anybody in that wedding party
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was a part of or responsible for anything
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that happened to Nancy.
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We had our babies there. We had our families there.
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Everyone cooperated, and we were cleared.
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- We did get married that day.
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But it hit us really hard.
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I look back to my wedding, and I think of Nancy.
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- Each dead end means hours lost.
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Each hour lost means a lifetime
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for criminals to cover their tracks.
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- An update now on the missing woman in Paso Robles.
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Deputies are expanding their search.
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62-year-old Nancy Woodrum has been missing
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since Friday afternoon.
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- At that point, the investigative team,
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they were developing leads to find out
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who had been interacting with Nancy in the days
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leading up to her disappearance.
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- In any missing persons case, we talk to the family.
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- Where do you think something could have
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gone wrong with your mom
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and somebody would want to hurt her?
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- There was a realtor named Joe
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who was a family friend, who, at one point,
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had the listing for Nancy's house.
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- I had Nancy's house on the market
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maybe a year and a half ago.
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- There was some hostility.
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He was very angry.
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- It's a $2 million property.
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That's a lot of commission.
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He felt like Nancy did him dirty.
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- Everyone has a mask they show the world,
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the best version of themselves, the one who plays by the rules.
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But it's an act, a performance.
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Those who see the real face underneath the mask,
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the messy reality, they're the ones who know
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how far we're willing to go.
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The truth is never black and white.
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It lives in the murky grays where we each negotiate
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our own version of right and wrong.
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- Do you remember what type of threats Joe made?
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- While we were looking at Joe, the realtor,
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we did discover Nancy was also having issues
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with a contractor.
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- They had some level of disagreement with Nancy
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over the preparation for sale of the property.
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- San Luis Obispo is a fairly small county.
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In law enforcement, you can become familiar
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with what we call frequent flyers.
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When we heard the name of the contractor, Shaun Blume,
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most of us knew him.
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- He had a conviction.
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- I'm a general contractor, so I do pretty much
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all different phases of construction.
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- There was a painter on the job site, Carlo Fuentes.
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We called Carlo.
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He told us that he had met Nancy.
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He described her as being very polite and very nice.
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There was one time he was working late,
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and she had brought him out some tamales
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to eat while he was painting
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and they had a brief conversation.
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- He confirmed, yeah, he had seen those two arguing.
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- Did Shaun push her?
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Did she fall and hit her head? Did he freak out?
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- We got DNA.
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It doesn't match.
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- And then when we spoke with the realtor, Joe,
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he had a confirmed alibi.
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- He had 15 or 20 people that put him
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out of the area on a trail ride.
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He could be taken off the list.
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- So the wedding guest, the contractor,
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and the realtor were ruled out.
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- We cleared those people in a few weeks.
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After that, it was a real big whodunit.
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- You wanna believe all the work hasn't been in vain.
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But in those pursuits are clues,
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and they're adding up to something.
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Or are you overthinking it?
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- We looked at financial motive.
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Who might stand to gain something
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if she were to disappear?
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- You have a potential sale of a property.
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Certainly, you have to put family in
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as a person of interest.
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- Nancy's son, Chad, was the last person
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to have contact with her.
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- Nancy and her son didn't get along
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because of Nancy's faith.
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- Chad was very angry, didn't wanna talk to us,
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didn't really wanna cooperate.
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- Nancy's selling her property,
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and if something happened to Nancy,
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you were in line to inherit what the property sold for.
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- He said he didn't want his DNA uploaded into the system.
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We told him how suspicious it makes him look,
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and he wouldn't budge.
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He was set in stone.
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He would never give us his DNA.
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- We see an empty chair at the dinner table,
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and we think we have it all figured out--
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a mother's heartbreak, a son who no longer cares,
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a shattered relationship.
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Case closed.
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Or is that all just a little too obvious?
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- When was the last time you'd been out to her place?
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- Nancy's son, Chad, wanted nothing
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to do with the investigation.
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It seemed that he felt no love for his mother.
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- And he's just not a cooperative person.
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So we were watching Chad at work.
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And at the end of his shift, he was drinking beers.
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We seized the beer bottles and got his DNA.
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It surprised me that DNA
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ruled him out as a contributor to our evidence.
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- I know there was some concern that Chad
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wasn't as cooperative as he should have been,
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but his mother's gone,
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and the whole community is asking questions.
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I just think it was his way of responding,
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of just self-protecting.
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- By around September,
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we had kind of cleared most everybody.
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And there was a lull there where it was scary.
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- People, quite frankly, were very afraid.
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There was a perpetrator out there that
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no one knew who they were.
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- I'd go on my walks, and all of a sudden,
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it was like, I don't know if I should be walking alone,
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when I never felt that fear before.
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- Her poster started being put up around the county.
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And people, they'd ask,
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hey, any idea what's happened to Nancy?
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Any word?
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- We reached out to the San Luis Obispo
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County Sheriff's Office.
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Unfortunately, no new details are available at this time.
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- I can't believe there hasn't been any more leads.
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- The sheriff's office has a volunteer search and rescue.
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For weeks, they literally walked
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a good ten miles looking in culverts, looking in ditches.
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I've never seen anything like it.
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- Unfortunately, none of those search parties
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ever turned up any evidence.
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- As time passes, fear quiets in the criminal.
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But for the detective, it grows.
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And nothing is louder than the tick of the clock.
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- Detectives were trying everything possible.
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Sometimes, you just have to have a lucky break.
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- At that time, one of our investigators
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had just returned from a new training
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about what is called a Google geofence.
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- We were the first homicide case in California
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that it was used.
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Geofencing is a invisible line
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drawn around a particular area.
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It will pick up on any electronic device
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with a signal that comes in there.
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We can detect that phone number and when that device
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entered that space.
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- That night, on Nancy's property,
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there were guests with cell phones
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in the large house and in the small house next to Nancy's.
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- We have to be extremely precise.
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- So we put a little fence around Nancy's living area.
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- A 12-foot radius was its accuracy.
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- And we asked for all the cell phones
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that were in that area during the time frame of our crime.
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And we finally get the data back.
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- We have a device that was there
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at 1:00 in the morning time frame.
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It's not Nancy's device.
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So who owns that cell phone?
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- It's kind of like a fingerprint.
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- So now we get a search warrant
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to figure out what that device is and who owns it.
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- I am in the courthouse.
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And my co-lead investigator,
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he says it's Carlo.
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I said, what?
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Who's Carlo?
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They said, that guy you talked to in July, the painter.
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And I said, are you kidding me?
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- When we think of mysteries,
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we imagine the clues are tangible--
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a footprint, a torn letter, a motive whispered in the dark.
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But often the best leads can't be touched or seen--
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a ping, a digital echo.
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The days of solving crimes in the pages of an old case file
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are behind us.
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And now everything depends on the data left behind.
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Sometimes it's the only voice a victim has left.
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- When I started out my business, I was young.
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I was painting a home, and I needed help.
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Carlo told me that a couple of years before,
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he had come to Paso Robles from Mexico.
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He got married and became a citizen.
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And now Carlo was working in the vineyards,
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and he was unhappy.
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So from there on out, he worked for me,
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and I trained him to be a painter.
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He was a really good worker, eager to learn.
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- He just had a nice, mellow demeanor.
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There was times there
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where Carlo and I worked solely together
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for a long period where we were doing a lot of remodels
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for a builder here locally.
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He was just always a good guy.
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- He'd be there from sunup to sundown.
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And we developed a relationship.
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We would golf.
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He spent time with my in-laws.
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He spent time with my family.
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- We did criminal histories.
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He had none.
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- We found out that
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his marriage was maybe a little troubled
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but nothing that really provided any red flags.
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But we have the geofence putting him
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on the property for two hours.
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00:30:25,910 --> 00:30:28,000
What is Carlo Fuentes doing out there
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at 1:30 in the morning when Nancy goes missing?
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- We followed him, trying to get a DNA sample.
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00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:41,490
Him and his wife had lunch, and he left a bottle of Coke.
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00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:46,140
We got his DNA from the Coke bottle.
430
00:30:46,270 --> 00:30:50,760
The bloody handprint on the pillow on Nancy's bed
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had male DNA.
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They were able to determine that it was most likely
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Carlo Fuentes' DNA.
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00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:08,430
- Finding the smoking gun is one thing.
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Finding the hand that fired it, that's the hard part.
436
00:31:12,430 --> 00:31:16,300
The clue leads you to a name, a face,
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a life that doesn't fit.
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00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:22,350
And that's when you know the weapon is still out there,
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waiting for its true master to be unmasked.
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- We have the DNA.
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00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:32,840
We have the geofence.
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00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:35,850
But if that's all you have,
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is that proof beyond a reasonable doubt
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that a homicide occurred?
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00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:41,760
We don't have a body.
446
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,510
We have no idea what occurred.
447
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,030
Maybe she's in a basement somewhere.
448
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,030
What we know is that he's a suspect.
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00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,380
Let's talk to him as a suspect.
450
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- Yeah.
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00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,090
- In an interview like this,
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you have to build a lot of rapport.
453
00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,830
- Nobody's gonna tell you anything
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if they don't like you.
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00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:23,760
- We just started collecting information from him.
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We spent an hour just talking.
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00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,260
- We brought up Nancy a little bit.
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- And then when we felt like it was the right time,
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we asked him...
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00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:45,300
- Carlo presumably knows what happened and where Nancy is.
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00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:50,080
So they have to figure out an approach to get him to talk.
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- He smothered her with the pillow,
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00:37:34,510 --> 00:37:39,080
rolls her up in blankets, carries her out to his truck.
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00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:09,370
- The Carrizo Plains has a lot of animal activity.
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There's wild pigs,
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there's coyotes, birds, turkey buzzards.
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- It took a while, but finally I see these rocks
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on the side of this hill.
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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,560
And I see some bones.
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00:38:30,690 --> 00:38:33,830
And I look up and see her skull.
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00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,920
She's there.
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00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,180
- Because the dental was still there,
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00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,320
we were able to confirm that it was Nancy.
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00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:50,320
- Although it didn't bring Nancy back,
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at least the family, they know what happened.
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00:38:59,110 --> 00:39:03,810
- It was closure, and it was sadness.
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00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:05,430
Because I think there's a little piece of you
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00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,170
that always hopes that they're somewhere,
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that they're gonna come walking in the door.
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00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:12,780
Sorry.
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00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:16,520
I'm just thinking about what she had to endure
482
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:18,870
and why someone would do that to her.
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00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:25,310
- The confession, it's overwhelming evidence
484
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:26,660
of his guilt.
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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,840
- Mr. Fuentes Flores was charged
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00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:36,330
with first-degree murder committed during a rape.
487
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:39,590
- Carlo wanted to plead guilty from the get-go.
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00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,640
He did not want to put his family through a trial.
489
00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:49,030
And one thing that has always surprised me
490
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,860
is that he did this with no criminal history.
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- That evening, her daughter told me this,
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that Nancy had called her and said the bridal party,
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00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:18,980
they arrived, they got their goodie bags.
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Everything is in control.
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I'm gonna make it an early night,
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00:40:23,590 --> 00:40:26,510
and I'll see you tomorrow.
497
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,210
And how quick her whole life changed,
498
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:35,040
and how quick the family's life changed
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00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:38,130
because they'll be forever scarred by this.
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I would hope that this case will spare this
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00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,440
from happening again.
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00:40:45,830 --> 00:40:47,790
- She was part of the community.
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00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,140
She had touched a lot of people.
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She's got her son, her daughter, her grandkids
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00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:58,630
that'll keep her memory alive.
506
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,980
- I think about her a lot.
507
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:04,760
I will always remember Nancy's giving spirit.
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00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:09,030
She was just-- she was light and love.
509
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:17,340
- Many of us imagine crossing that line
510
00:41:17,470 --> 00:41:19,300
and how we'd get away with it.
511
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:23,170
Most quickly dismiss the idea, but there are those who don't.
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00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,040
They slip into double lives.
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00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:26,740
And the thing about a double life,
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00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:29,530
as the characters in my books know all too well,
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00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:32,750
is that secrets and lies don't stay buried for long.
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And by the time they surface, it's too late.
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Guilt is torture forever.
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00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,100
But so is grief.
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00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:44,020
Just ask the families.
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I'm Harlan Coben.
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Good night.
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