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It's crashing.
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That's the night I almost lost
everything.
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Price actually went past my liquidation
price.
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Every dollar that I had ever worked for,
gone.
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Of course, in hindsight, you know, I
just held on to that. It'd be half a
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billion dollars.
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It's so ridiculous that I can't process
it, but this movie has nothing to do
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with any of it.
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The universe tried to warn me.
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Like, he tried to warn me.
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He tried to warn you.
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The man of my dreams.
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He's a shapeshifter. He can assume the
role of a dead loved one. He can appear
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as animals, old friends. He's just every
single person in your dream.
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That's not the first time I met him
either.
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I remember I was 15 years old and all I
saw was a bright light.
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Yo, you good, man?
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Huh? You good, man?
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Oh, uh, yeah, I'm good.
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I had, like, the weirdest dream last
night. No way. I dreamt last night, too.
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It's crazy.
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Well, you gonna tell it to the balder?
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This man in a suit's my barber was gonna
die.
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Your barber? Wait, who even has a barber
anymore? No, I know. I think he meant
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this guy, Joe.
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Barca? Joe Barca. Joe Baca.
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Come down here, two of you. You don't
got to eat the man's hair like that. Can
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you imagine if something really does
happen to him?
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Well, whatever you do, just don't dream
about me.
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I at least want to get laid before I
die.
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Amen, brother.
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If I did, though, you know, dream about
one of you guys dying or whatever, would
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you want to know?
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No, probably not.
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Keep them under yourself.
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Sorry, I pulled all the olives out of
your macaroni salad again, huh?
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It's the only vegetable in the whole
plate.
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Corn's a vegetable.
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It's a starch, Mom.
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That's a vegetable. That's a vegetable,
yeah.
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Right. And olives aren't a vegetable.
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Olives aren't a vegetable? Are they?
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Yeah, they're... What is this, pick on
mom night?
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All right, let's get back to eating.
She's not picked the chicken night.
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Goodness. You don't like the chicken?
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Mom. You've always liked chicken.
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I mean, I like the... I like chicken. I
have to eat chicken every night, so...
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Of course I like chicken. You don't eat
chicken every night. Okay, Mom.
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What do you think? You don't have
anything nice to say.
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You're not supposed to say anything at
all. That's what my mom always said.
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Is that what your mom always said?
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That's enough.
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Jesse, you're awful quiet. You okay?
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I had a dream Joe Barca died.
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Old Joe?
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Yeah.
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How'd he die?
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I don't know.
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A man in a suit told me.
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A man in a suit?
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What did he look like?
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I don't know, he had dark hair and pitch
black eyes and he was taller and
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he told me that he was going to die and
I woke up crying.
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Can you not be a jerk for two seconds,
please?
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Oh,
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sorry, I don't dream about power rangers
every day like you.
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Did he teabag you?
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Leave your father alone.
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So when's the last time you even seen
him?
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I don't know, it's been years.
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That's why it's so weird.
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Oh, hi, Ella.
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Ella, back away from the table. Okay.
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Ready? All right.
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Take it nice.
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Yeah, take it nice.
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Take it nice.
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Ooh.
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Tea bag.
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Nah, you know you like it.
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Did I tell you guys about the nuggets
that I took the other day?
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Oh, my God.
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It's like the juggernaut took that shit.
I'm telling you. No, dude.
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You know you would have looked at it.
You know you would have looked at it.
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right, let's go.
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Let's go.
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I am not losing my level 36. I'm telling
you that right now.
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How'd you know?
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Know what?
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I just got off the phone with Pop -Pop.
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He said Jude Barger had a heart attack.
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Dreaming the future.
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Premonitions.
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Visions.
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Precognition.
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I thought my experience with Joe Barca
was just going to be a one -off
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occurrence that sounds like something
completely make -believe.
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This is a very real thing that happened
to me when I was 15 years old.
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What I thought was just a shot in the
dark.
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Just a lucky guess.
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It just kept happening.
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It just kept happening.
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I did not sleep well last night.
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This has kind of been part of the
course, but... I used to.
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I used to sleep great.
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I would get 10, 12 hours most nights.
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especially when i was a kid i would be
uh flying around
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i don't know i'm not like
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i'm not even like flap no bird flap
wings i'm i'm just soaring just with my
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like like kind of like levitating just
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It's just like when you're a kid, I feel
like all the dreams would be so
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fantastical. It's like it didn't matter
that it didn't make sense. It was like
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you were just playing. It felt relaxing
and peaceful.
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It was all game.
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Your family was still around, all the
ones that you knew, and even people that
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you didn't know. Everyone was great.
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This was all exciting.
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You didn't have enough, I guess, bad
experiences to sift into your life that
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kind of toxify it all.
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I'll lay in bed for...
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Hours before I even fall asleep.
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Who am I going to dream about tonight?
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Because what's going to happen to that
person in my dream, and are they going
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not be there when I wake up?
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Whose death am I going to envision
tonight that I'm going to not know
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should tell them about in real life or
just keep to myself?
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I worked at a plumbing shop for a couple
years, just kind of.
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doing inventory and, you know, serving
customers.
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There was an old woman that worked at
the shop and would hang out in the
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We got really close in the plumbing
shop. However, I had a dream. I had some
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third -party perspective on the highway
that wraps around Boros Plumbing. The
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dream consisted of Joan in her car
trying to just turn into the plumbing
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Makes that turn pretty much every
workday.
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Except this day in the dream, a red
tractor trailer comes barreling down the
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highway and crashes into her car,
killing her.
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Joan Voros, red tractor trailer, dead.
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The next day at work, I said, yeah, I
saw you get crushed by a red tractor
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trailer. She's like, oh, that's lovely.
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Everything was fine for a few weeks
until I got a text message from Joan
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saying I just swerved off the road.
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narrowly avoiding a red tractor trailer.
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She said, I'm really shaken up right
now.
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She said, had you not warned me, I don't
think I would have reacted quick
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enough.
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I don't know what to make of that.
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Lucky guess.
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Joan was fine and we talked about it the
next day and I'm sure we made thick
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jokes about it and laughed.
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That's what humans do when they can't
confront this sickening reality of
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possibility, something they might not
understand.
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Let's joke about it and forget it and
act like it never happened.
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Hey there, Jays. It's your old pal
McJarren. It's here. That's how I've
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close to 2 ,000 videos because I am a
YouTuber making a movie.
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That's right. Yeah, it's a YouTube
movie. What's this guy doing?
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My name is Jesse Ridgway, also known as
McJuggerNuggets, more notoriously
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online. So I've been making YouTube
videos since I was 14 years old, so I've
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been at this thing for close to 17 years
now.
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And we've accumulated over 2 billion
views just on YouTube alone, and this
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been my full -time career for the last
decade.
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I'm that kid in his underwear that's
screaming at his dad as he ran over his
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video games with a lawnmower.
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Yeah, the kid that flipped the
Thanksgiving tables over and gets a
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at him by his father.
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Me and my dad. Psycho dad. Psycho kid.
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Shot my dad with a gun. You made me this
way!
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Flood to Switzerland. Anyone over the
age of 40 probably has no idea what I'm
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talking about.
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Daddy, chill.
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What the hell is even that?
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We'll do choreographs done, kind of just
some loose improv with these ridiculous
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scenarios, basically to clickbait and
drive attention to a narrative that I'm
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trying to construe. So it was a little
bit of a boy who cried wolf scenario
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where I pretended that this whole fake
life was real, the internet believed it.
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We're sorry about that.
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Guys, we are working hard building up
the little campsite area.
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This is probably the hardest I've ever
worked in my life.
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Feast your eyes upon my pride, my joy.
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Welcome to Eagles Landing.
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You guys got to check this place out.
It's insane.
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That Eagles Landing series brought in
around 100 million views that month.
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I was gaining like 10 ,000 subscribers a
day and was really what, like...
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blew up my channel a lot of a lot of
fans found me through that anyway guys
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some likes on this video and say f you
to your dad and subscribe you want to
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f you to my dad all right jays i love
you all death and don't forget to keep
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rigid i didn't realize that i had dreamt
that two years prior
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okay so my brother had a dream
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that he was in an alternate reality in a
tent filming himself.
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The video was an alternate reality. It
was not real life. That's what I meant
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alternate reality.
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In the dream right now. Do you want me
to respond to you? Do you want me to
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respond to the camera?
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What are you trying to insinuate? I'm
just trying to ask you genuine questions
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right now.
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I guess. I don't know. You have really
not much to wear with because you don't.
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You're not even open to the idea. How
many more?
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You don't remember Joe Barga. I'm sorry,
but when you present with me like, oh,
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I had this dream of me being in a tent.
We camped a lot.
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Not in a tent.
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I don't think you guys were ever in a
tent, but that could have resonated in
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your mind. So a lot of different ideas
that he could have just combined into a
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dream, woken up, wrote it down, and
then.
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Years down the road, he made it happen
in the form of video.
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So you're saying it was a lucky hit?
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That my dream matched?
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It was a lucky match?
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I think that the dream matching the
video was a coincidence.
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What if I told you Eagle's Landing
wasn't my idea?
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I had randomly met through a mutual
friend, the financial guy.
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You know what would be funny?
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What if you were kicked out of your
house and you were living in a tent
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games from there?
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I said, yeah, that's a really good idea.
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So I can't even argue against it now. I
can't say it was a self -fulfilling
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prophecy. It came from an outside
source.
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So the only conclusion I could come to
is that it was always going to happen.
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I can't say one way or the other for
sure whether it was something that was
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meant to be, but it did seem like Jesse
did have a flow,
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like he did know.
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ahead of time. It didn't seem like that.
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Something was grabbing my chest and just
pulling me and pulling me along.
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It was just dragging me through all
these experiences.
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I was a freshman in high school, very
first period.
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And when everybody's half asleep, the
teacher's joining on, and you're really
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just trying to just stay awake.
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And in that state, you're just getting
off and you hear voices, you see things.
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And what I would do is I would just open
up a notebook.
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I didn't realize what I was doing at the
time, but apparently this is kind of
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known as free writing, where you just go
loose and you let your hand just write
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slowly, whatever just comes to mind, as
ridiculous as it may sound.
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I tried to direct it a little bit. I
wanted to try to make a series. I've
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been obsessed with television series and
dramatic work.
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And so I was writing something to do for
my YouTube channel.
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Jesse made Rule 19, which is one of my
favorites, with a whole bunch of clones,
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and they all had different
personalities.
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What Rule 19 meant, it was a virus that
was affecting the clones.
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Rule 19, COVID -19, virus, I mean... Oh,
shoot, yeah.
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I did a series called My Virtual Escape.
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In that virtual reality series, my Uncle
Chris in real life was like playing a
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character in a series. And me and him
developed a really close relationship
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through all the YouTube videos.
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He was played by my older brother.
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My Uncle Chris is my dad's older
brother.
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When Uncle Chris' character died in my
virtual escape, he started bleeding from
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the nose.
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Which is how all the clones died from
Rule 19, a .k .a. COVID -19.
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The crazy thing is, is when Uncle Chris'
character gets killed off in the
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simulation, he is stabbed against an oak
tree.
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Red oak. And he's stabbed by you playing
as the servant, a .k .a. his boss. So
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just to sum it up, Uncle Chris' boss
killed him.
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A little over two years ago, my Uncle
Chris was at work.
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His boss came in and gave him COVID -19.
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My uncle died within a week of that. The
company my uncle works for is called
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Red Oak.
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The irony of that...
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That'll
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resonate for a day or two.
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Didn't know all that.
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then yes, his boss did kill him in real
life.
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Almost as if subconsciously, when I
write these theories, these ideas that
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of come from nowhere, is actually coming
from somewhere, that somewhere being
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the future.
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A bit too many synchronicities there.
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Too many things line up. It's pretty
ridiculous.
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It is pretty ridiculous now that you
brought it to my attention.
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Then you start thinking a little bit
more about it.
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Like, even the dreams.
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When I was younger, it seemed like, huh,
that's no big deal.
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I question things now more as I'm older.
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Ever since my dad died, I don't want to
know more.
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I want it to be magical.
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What I like to think is magic is just
science that isn't understood yet.
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I remember Jesse having a dream about
one of his school teachers having
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And guess what?
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It's a ninth grade history teacher, Mr.
Harris.
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He's a very sweet guy, very smart, very
caring towards his students. He's very
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rare in a teacher.
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Well, I dreamt about Mr. Harris.
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That was it.
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However, I got this thinking feeling as
he walked away and his back was a little
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hunched. There's something wrong with
him too.
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This one would take years to play out.
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Started with his wife getting cancer.
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She died.
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As well as Mr. Harris died too.
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It's a very sad story.
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And I don't want it to be sad.
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Forecasting somebody's demise, that's
almost godlike.
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I don't know if people are supposed to
have that kind of power.
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There's certain things that just should
be left untouched.
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I mean, I did have a dream about seeing
my own death certificate.
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I don't remember.
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I do remember that there was an
interceptor, but I don't... It did a
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bit, but...
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It could have been somebody else's
death.
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It could have been my mother's.
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She passed away in 2021.
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Interceptor could have been COVID
intercepted her.
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It's like looking at a piece of art
while somebody that writes it or draws
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paints it out or any other form of...
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Artistic endeavor, it could mean
something to them, but if it's presented
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way that anybody can walk away with a
different interpretation, that's how I
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kind of view dreams.
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I had a very short dream about my old
friend Gina from college.
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And I wake up, and I check that Gina
just posted a recent photo.
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Looking exactly like a zombie.
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I had this dream this one night. I was
working on this movie theater being
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in my basement.
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It's my old friend Paul from high school
that I hadn't seen in, like, ten years.
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And he's wearing, like, full
construction gear like he's ready to
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That's the dream.
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I upload, like, a two-, three -year -old
video to Facebook of the movie theater
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construction, and at that same exact
time, I check my inbox.
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Guess who messaged me?
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Paul, first message in 10 years, and you
know what he says? Hey, man, really
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loving these videos on Facebook.
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I told him, thanks, man. I'm glad you
liked the vids.
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Drop a like.
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Subscribe. So just now I met in 2019 on
a dating app.
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One of our first conversations, he did
mention how he already visioned me
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in his home walking around the corner,
which was kind of pretty bizarre,
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especially when you're...
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first talking to somebody that you don't
even know if you're interested in yet.
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It's funny, you always hear that, too.
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Oh, I knew the first day, and you're
like, yeah, okay, as if, you know,
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kind of rewriting history.
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I don't think it was a tactic. I think
what he was saying was true. I felt that
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connection with him from our first
conversation.
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Yeah, I just went with it. I just wasn't
sure if it actually is a real thing to
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just dream the future or...
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see these future visions.
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They kept happening and happening and
they were like turning out to be true.
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It finally did take a turn and I started
to experience them on my own.
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So there was this one instance where my
dog Mason got into a trash can and he
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ate probably a whole pack's worth of
used makeup wipes.
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So I took Mason to Jesse's house before
I went to the animal hospital. I let
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Mason roam the house.
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He had this sense to him that he was
very familiar with the house. He went
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straight to the living room and jumped
up on the couch and laid on the arm of
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the chair as if he's been there before.
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When that was his first time ever being
there, I did have this weird moment hit
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me. I guess I would call it a deja vu.
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I've seen this before.
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I've felt this feeling before. I've seen
Mason run across the kitchen.
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Mason goes in that chair every single
day and sits in that same spot.
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Have you ever been half asleep and you
hear a sound? Then you wake up and then
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that sound happens? Because that sounds
exactly like what this is.
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evolution in our species where like we
hear the bush rustling and we're trying
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to guess what kind of predator is in the
bush like is it going to kill me should
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i be scared should i be excited starts
to activate that fight or flight
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maybe that predictive ability that
foresight has extended itself a bit
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before somebody gets a call from a loved
one saying that so -and -so died all of
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a sudden i just feel off today Like
something's wrong. I have a bad feeling.
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Yeah, so this past summer I had a dream
where these two boys showed up to the
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house. They were trespassing on the
property.
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They showed up with fishing poles
wanting to go fish at the lake that's in
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backyard.
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So the next morning I wake up, real
life.
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I went out on the deck, and I hear
voices.
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They looked exactly like the kids in my
dream. I mean, I think even down to the
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color of their shirt, what they were
wearing, everything.
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Yeah, at this point, I believe it's real
because I now have my own experiences.
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I'm all in now.
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This is real. This happens because that
was my third. I would question whether
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or not the story is true.
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So she could say that, but do I believe
her?
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Is there any evidence that it took
place?
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People's memories get fuzzy. I don't
recall a lot of things that happened in
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childhood.
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So it doesn't mean that it didn't exist,
but it also just, a lot of things can
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change in a story over time.
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So while you remember it to be one way
immediately, as time goes on, it may get
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a little bit more gray.
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If you're hearing it secondhand, it
could change several times since then.
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People discredit dreams and people's
experiences, personal experiences, as
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saying that it's not evidence that there
is something more going on, but what
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other evidence do we have than
somebody's testimonial?
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How else can we read somebody's dreams?
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We have to trust the person telling us.
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So once I started realizing that, like,
maybe I could dream the future,
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naturally I'm like, all right, how can I
make money off this?
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Let me go in and see if I can, I don't
know, maybe get some lottery numbers for
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the next day.
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And so I spawned outside of this
cornfield. Oh, hi, Jenny.
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Hi. Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay. Are you going to sit in? It'll
kind of be my smoking gun to prove that
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this thing exists.
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If you want something to appear, you
can't be looking in the direction that
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want it to appear. You actually have to
look away and then look back.
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And then it'll be there.
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The numbers start swirling around.
Everything's blurry.
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I'm like trying to figure out which
number is that. It's almost like the
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is falling apart around me. It just
really doesn't want me to access this
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information.
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All of a sudden, I'm thrust out of the
dream, and I'm forced to, okay, what did
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I just see?
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I either grab a dream journal or record
on my phone, and I quickly wrote down a
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complete sequence of numbers.
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I played what was a five -number
sequence for what was Jersey Cash 5.
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It was around, I think, a $500 ,000
prize.
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I got three out of five correct.
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And the other two were like a digit off.
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I would equate it to like making free
throws in basketball.
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This was maybe my fifth or sixth time
actually dreaming a set of lottery
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numbers. I'm not going to make every
shot.
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You say I'm LeBron James of sleep.
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I would not say you are the LeBron James
of sleep because that would mean you
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get great sleep every night and you
don't.
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How many home runs does someone need to
get to prove that it's not luck?
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Is this a baseball analogy we're using
now?
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Hey, you like baseball? I love baseball.
I would have to see a lot of home runs.
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If they're going to be good and
legitimate, they have to have a good
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Who does?
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The precog people.
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Maybe the lottery numbers is a bit too
ambitious.
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Let me do some stock picks.
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He was on the toilet for what feels
like... three hours each night.
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That is not an exaggeration at all
because I know he's staring at his phone
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looking at finance stuff, business.
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Ah, damn it.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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I'm still pooping.
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It's like I'm dumping and it's dumping
usually.
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There's this huge ball of fire.
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hurtling through the sky coming crashing
towards the ground in this huge burst
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of flame like what the heck just
happened so i run over and there's a
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impact crater and in the center of this
crater once the smoke
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cleared was a gaming console
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And I wake up, I write everything down.
I actually draw the dashboard that I
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saw. Not long after that, a new console
released.
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And wouldn't you know it, exact, perfect
match to my dream description. Not only
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that, but the game that shipped with
that console, it's about these
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titans falling and flying through the
sky as if they were asteroids or meteors
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and crashing into the ground.
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So my dream took those two concepts.
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blended them together.
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People don't want to hear your goofy
dreams.
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00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:40,410
So you're saying nobody's going to watch
this movie?
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What do you mean?
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Why wouldn't they watch it? You're doing
precognitive dreaming.
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That's like a dream with vision. I mean,
that's totally different.
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What you're going to be shown is not
always your choice.
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You can do anything you want. You can,
you know, you have choice and all that,
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but...
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I do understand the other side now, and
I do lean more towards everything's
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predestined.
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I remember our old family dog, Ella,
where I walked her outside one day.
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around 9 or 10 years old, which is older
for a lab, but usually they go into the
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double digits.
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I took her off the leash, and she went
up ahead, stopped, turned around, and
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then just sat and stared at me.
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And I got this sickening gut feeling
that this was going to be the last time
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that I was going to see my dog.
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Yeah, it was around two to three weeks
later that Ella was diagnosed with
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and then died within like five days.
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John's 13 years old now.
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I've grown up with this dog. He's been
in many videos of mine. We call him
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John because he just smells.
460
00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:47,120
No, no, no. Lay down.
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Lay down, John.
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Lay down.
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We were going to get another dog to play
as Ella, but I think it's fitting if
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John does.
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Because you remember her, huh?
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As bad as it sounds.
467
00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:03,950
It's like, oh, wow, all I do is dream
and have visions of terrible things
468
00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:08,090
happening. That was actually one of the
few times where I was glad it happened.
469
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,990
I feel like it gave me a warning.
470
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:16,170
It gave me a chance to spend some time
with Ella before she might pass.
471
00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:18,410
I'm going to be leaving for a while.
472
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:21,030
So be here when I get back.
473
00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:25,510
Come on, John.
474
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:26,530
Let's go be Ella.
475
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:29,750
Let's go be Ella.
476
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:36,040
This specific precognitive experience is
probably one of the ones that breaks my
477
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,040
brain.
478
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:03,220
Do I know you?
479
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:07,280
You know who I am.
480
00:34:09,659 --> 00:34:10,659
Omar?
481
00:34:30,730 --> 00:34:32,190
I have no clue who Omar is.
482
00:34:32,949 --> 00:34:35,750
I don't know any Omar in my real life.
483
00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:41,969
Yet suddenly my mouth, which I did not
have control over, just spoke out loud
484
00:34:41,969 --> 00:34:43,810
and said, Omar?
485
00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:48,710
And then I woke up and immediately
jotted it down. However, flash forward
486
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:51,870
later that night. Me and my girlfriend
were doing a little Netflix and chill.
487
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:55,489
And I thought, oh, hey, look, here's a
documentary about, it was a
488
00:34:55,489 --> 00:34:57,610
cryptocurrency. Let me check this out.
And I click on it.
489
00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:00,170
It was about this exchange getting
hacked.
490
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:03,850
Until I see a man's face appear onto the
screen.
491
00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:07,030
It was Omar.
492
00:35:09,490 --> 00:35:11,050
It was the man from my dream.
493
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:14,350
That's probably the dream man.
494
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:17,610
Felt like it was all a ploy, something.
495
00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:20,370
Set this all off in motion.
496
00:35:26,110 --> 00:35:28,970
It's... Something that is so impossible
to articulate.
497
00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:33,150
It's such a huge basis on why I wanted
to make this film.
498
00:35:36,610 --> 00:35:42,150
How do you tell somebody or how do you
show the world that I could see the
499
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:47,690
future and be completely realistic and
genuine when you say that?
500
00:35:50,110 --> 00:35:51,210
How do you do that?
501
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:54,950
Without everybody saying that.
502
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,620
He's got to be lying.
503
00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:00,780
It's got to be a story.
504
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Especially the guy who made a life
story.
505
00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:09,680
That's the ultimate irony.
506
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:17,780
Let's make the guy who fakes everything
for videos for YouTube. Let's make him
507
00:36:17,780 --> 00:36:21,300
the guy that can dream the future.
508
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:26,350
That's good.
509
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:29,350
Then here I am.
510
00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:31,890
Talking about these nightmares.
511
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:36,610
Yeah. But I don't believe that you can
predict the future.
512
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:39,690
Because then you're predicting choice.
513
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:43,070
And without choice, what's the point?
Well, this movie is for you then,
514
00:36:43,310 --> 00:36:44,350
You don't believe in anything.
515
00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:45,910
Not really, no.
516
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:51,310
I believe in the things around me. I
believe in people. Ex -girlfriends of
517
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:55,170
Ex -girlfriends of mine. Literally,
their names. In old... Scripts that I
518
00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:56,810
in weird, symbolic ways.
519
00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:02,870
Man, that's coincidence. I mean, they're
not really exotic names.
520
00:37:03,490 --> 00:37:06,910
With Ethereum, I picked the best
investment of the entire decade, but
521
00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:10,030
almost like I knew. It's almost like I
knew the entire run on YouTube. It's
522
00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:10,868
I knew.
523
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:13,610
I wouldn't say these are facts. I would
say these are your own experiences.
524
00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:14,610
Because you don't care about the facts.
525
00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:18,990
I think that what you're presenting is
your own personal experiences. You can't
526
00:37:18,990 --> 00:37:22,910
honestly say that I told you something
prior.
527
00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:25,470
And then it ends up happening.
528
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:26,710
I don't remember.
529
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:30,030
There's something down here that I have.
530
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:33,010
Do you have a yearbook down here?
531
00:37:33,590 --> 00:37:34,950
When did you graduate?
532
00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:36,770
2007.
533
00:37:37,470 --> 00:37:42,170
All the younger siblings are writing to
their older siblings and parents.
534
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:44,910
I think there's even something where mom
and dad said something, but they're not
535
00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:46,830
going to say something like what I said.
536
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:48,950
There, look. Read it. Read that.
537
00:37:49,570 --> 00:37:50,890
I already know what it says.
538
00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:52,090
Read it.
539
00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:56,410
Jeffrey. Wow. You don't have to read it
into the camera, dude.
540
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:58,510
You proved me wrong.
541
00:37:58,770 --> 00:38:04,130
I'll try to live to your example, except
for the buffness. Because you graduated
542
00:38:04,130 --> 00:38:05,130
high school, I was surprised.
543
00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:06,410
That's a joke.
544
00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,210
Understood. Good luck.
545
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:13,990
I'll see you outside my mansion someday,
your little brother, Meatball.
546
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:17,530
Did I not call that?
547
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,420
Literally, I was what, 14, 15, right
around when I was having these other
548
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:23,320
precogs, and I said, see you outside my
mansion.
549
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,340
And what happened? You lived in my
house. You lived in the mansion with me.
550
00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:28,340
don't have a mansion.
551
00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:30,100
There's freaking nine bedrooms in the
house.
552
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,960
There's three kitchens.
553
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,920
I was basically saying that I knew I
would be successful because I knew it.
554
00:38:36,509 --> 00:38:39,750
Why don't you just say that? What's it
going to take for you to give me some
555
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:43,450
credit, the fact that I am actually
having these experiences and that I
556
00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:47,450
potentially feel something intuitively
that is going to happen in the future?
557
00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:50,710
Jess, I love you.
558
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,310
You're my little brother.
559
00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:56,590
I support you in the Psycho Series and
everything with YouTube and everything.
560
00:38:56,770 --> 00:39:01,390
This goes past that to me because it's a
very personal thing.
561
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,700
I understand. And it's something that is
very hard to talk about because people
562
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,920
immediately stigmatize it. They think
that it's not valid because it's my
563
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,260
emotional experience. I'm telling you
there's something here.
564
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,580
I understand where you're coming from.
Suddenly these things that just seem
565
00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,580
of magical happen.
566
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:17,620
By coincidence?
567
00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:19,480
You think that's coincidence?
568
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:20,700
Really?
569
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,560
I'm concerned over this.
570
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,880
Okay? I answered the questions.
571
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,220
It may not fit with what you want.
572
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:32,000
I don't think I can help you.
573
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,640
I'm sorry.
574
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,540
All right.
575
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,320
I can't promise that there will be much
of you in it.
576
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,020
That's on you, but you wanted my honest
take, and I gave you my honest take. So
577
00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:50,940
whether or not it fits your agenda,
that's your call.
578
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,900
It's not an agenda.
579
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,160
It's not. There's no agenda. My agenda
is just to keep people open.
580
00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:03,670
Actually, I'm just saying, could you at
least consider an opinion outside of
581
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:08,050
your own that might break how your
paradigm works in your brain? Hey, you
582
00:40:08,050 --> 00:40:09,070
haven't convinced me, Jeff.
583
00:40:09,310 --> 00:40:12,410
And if you want this to keep people's
minds open, maybe give them all
584
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:15,990
perspectives so that maybe you don't
just portray it in one way and then
585
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:18,470
everybody else just thinks the same way
as you. Okay.
586
00:40:19,090 --> 00:40:20,090
Fair.
587
00:40:20,770 --> 00:40:21,790
We'll leave a little bit.
588
00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:24,930
We'll leave a little bit of your
skepticism, but Jeffrey, I think the
589
00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:25,930
enough of that.
590
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:28,650
I've got a mic. Who gets that?
591
00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:31,410
I give it to you, I guess.
592
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:34,950
I think Jesse's looking for the meaning
of life.
593
00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:40,750
I think Jesse's thinking that, you know,
he wants to be ahead of the curve.
594
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:42,610
That's what Jesse's all about.
595
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:46,650
I just want to get answers. I want to go
out. I want to talk to people. I want
596
00:40:46,650 --> 00:40:47,650
to talk to people like me.
597
00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:52,710
I want to get whatever experts exist in
the space, what little probably are
598
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:53,710
there.
599
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:57,810
And I just want them to tell me what's
wrong with me or what is potentially
600
00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:00,810
right with me or why am I experiencing
these things.
601
00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:04,530
I don't want to feel like I'm crazy. I
don't want to feel alone.
602
00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:08,470
I don't know that Jesse will ever find
any answers.
603
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:14,850
I'm hoping that he doesn't get scared to
sleep.
604
00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:18,550
Because if I'm going to uncover some
answers and get to the truth, I'm going
605
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:19,499
need help.
606
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:23,060
I've already tried living and dealing
with it on my own, and I can't say I've
607
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:24,060
been very successful.
608
00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:31,540
This has been a huge toll on him for as
long as I've known him, and I hope that
609
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:35,220
he finally gets the rest that he needs.
610
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,500
Have you ever dreamt the future?
611
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:40,780
I have dreamt the future.
612
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:43,220
Would you say you've dreamt the future?
Yeah, I have.
613
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,400
I've dreamt the future on a number of
different occasions.
614
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:47,860
I haven't dreamt the future.
615
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,700
But I believe I have dreamt the future.
616
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:52,380
No, can't say that I have.
617
00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:55,200
But I've had this crazy recurring dream.
618
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,720
Yes, my name is Maria, and I have dreamt
the future. I had a dream about getting
619
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:04,320
hit by a car, or nearly getting hit by a
car. And literally the next day, one of
620
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,040
my classmates, he ends up getting hit by
a car.
621
00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:08,340
There was a lot of fires.
622
00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:12,220
Some people were screaming, and it was
really, really scary.
623
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,240
Nothing fatal. He ends up getting up and
he talked about it the next day. Like,
624
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,660
yo, God, did you see what happened?
Serious came to my house and took our
625
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:23,800
hostage. And that was my dream about
because I saw it exactly how it was
626
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,720
happened. So in college, there was an
incident where a professor was sick.
627
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,680
So they had a substitute.
628
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,600
I really had this strong feeling that my
Instagram was going to get deleted.
629
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Like, you ever felt something and then
you're like, oh, this is going to happen
630
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,300
today? That's how I felt. I dreamt my
grandfather's stroke.
631
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:44,310
the night before it happened. And the
previous night, I dreamed of being in a
632
00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:47,950
class with this substitute professor,
despite me having never seen them
633
00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:50,350
And the next day, I walked in, and there
she was.
634
00:42:50,570 --> 00:42:55,430
My brain told me in the dream that it
was my father having a heart attack, but
635
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:58,150
that was really only me assuming so.
636
00:42:58,510 --> 00:43:02,110
Dreamt that I was at work, and I was
working in a tower, taking care of the
637
00:43:02,110 --> 00:43:06,370
planes, bringing them in and out. I
dreamt of this random, like, empty mall.
638
00:43:06,850 --> 00:43:09,910
And I could see this man off to my side,
and I look over.
639
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,320
Looking straight at him, he raises a
gun, and he shoots me right at the
640
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:18,300
And then a few weeks later, we took a
road trip and, like, ended up at that
641
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:20,740
one. And immediately, I was like...
642
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,960
I've been here before.
643
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:26,200
So according to the Zohar, there's never
an event that manifests in the physical
644
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,060
world that isn't first dreamed by
people.
645
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,740
I think every person has the ability and
the talent to listen to their intuition
646
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:37,280
or... I don't know. I just control these
premonitions, these dreams, so that I
647
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,960
can have more positive outcomes in my
day -to -day life. But these are the
648
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,700
dreams that tend to stick out. I'm
waiting for somebody to pop out.
649
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:48,720
And I'm hoping it's just a crazy dream,
but I'm also scared that...
650
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,280
it's going to become my reality
651
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,280
Hey, Mike.
652
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,118
Let's see.
653
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Hi.
654
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:24,140
It's been a minute.
655
00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:27,500
Yep. You all right?
656
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,020
I know. I haven't seen you.
657
00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:33,340
We're already rolling, so.
658
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:36,900
Yeah, but I thought we were going to
talk off camera, Jesse.
659
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,740
Yeah. Well, I want to do it on because
there's stuff I want to ask you. So if
660
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:43,080
were able to come inside. Look what I
want to ask you. Like why your dad
661
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,080
me.
662
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,400
I didn't want to talk about that stuff.
663
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,320
So if we could come in, I wanted to ask
you just a few questions.
664
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,860
We sat down to an interview. I thought
you were making a documentary.
665
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:52,218
We are. We are.
666
00:44:52,220 --> 00:44:55,460
Then why are we doing shots with Bridget
by the door and like... We're not
667
00:44:55,460 --> 00:44:59,740
talking about that. That was... We're
doing cinematic stuff in addition to
668
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:00,740
real stuff as well.
669
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:01,919
I'm sorry.
670
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,919
Points. Excuse me.
671
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,720
That's Jason. We've got lighting coming
in.
672
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,360
So we're just trying to make it look
good. There's a guy who's been in my
673
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,980
for ten minutes. You're not supposed to
address us. Hi.
674
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,800
What? Hi.
675
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:13,700
Hi.
676
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,000
What are we doing?
677
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:17,160
You still have...
678
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,680
The old notebook that you showed me when
I first came here.
679
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:22,380
Why are you talking about that to these
people?
680
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,540
They're just going to be, we might have
to stop the movie. You got cameras, you
681
00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:26,540
got boom mics.
682
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,540
Yeah. What is all this? You showed me a
notebook when I first was here in 2016
683
00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:34,820
that showed, like, predicted different
things, like deaths and I think an
684
00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:35,820
album or something.
685
00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:38,020
Okay, this is really personal.
686
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,980
What are you asking questions about?
What are you doing?
687
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:43,580
Yeah, but there's been things that you
showed me in the book six years ago that
688
00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:44,860
have come true since that time.
689
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,760
It's a coincidence.
690
00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,180
Why? What is it?
691
00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:50,740
It's coincidence.
692
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,080
That's what it's about.
693
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,360
About what?
694
00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:58,240
Precognition. Oh, you're so deep. Like
dreaming the future, having visions,
695
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,120
you were, I think, potentially was it
free writing? I don't know if I have the
696
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,120
books anymore.
697
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,160
They're gone.
698
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,900
Right? You got to be kidding me.
699
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,880
These got to happen. These still got to
happen. Oh, no, we have them.
700
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,880
Oh, my God.
701
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,280
Didn't he predict one of your family
members died?
702
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:13,860
Yeah.
703
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,480
Don't you think that's pretty crazy to
talk about? Yeah, it's definitely really
704
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,860
crazy, but I don't know about all these
cameras. You share your whole lives with
705
00:46:20,860 --> 00:46:22,600
the camera. This is a little bigger.
706
00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:24,820
There it is.
707
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,260
What do you need this for?
708
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,060
Maybe we'll set you up over there.
709
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,300
You got kid Cheerios still over there.
710
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Yeah, because we have kids.
711
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Yeah. I don't like these guys. I haven't
been here in three years, man.
712
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,320
Yeah. Is that what we're talking about?
713
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:45,640
No. Oh, actually, we do need to have you
sign off on the release to be in this.
714
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,440
So actually, we can get that now.
715
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,380
It depends on there.
716
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:51,820
I'm not signing anything.
717
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:56,540
My name is Michael Green. I am a
YouTuber. You might know me from the
718
00:46:56,540 --> 00:46:57,540
Grandpa show.
719
00:46:57,740 --> 00:46:59,700
So your dad is Angry Grandpa.
720
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:03,740
My father is Angry Grandpa, the angriest
old man on the internet.
721
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,520
What?
722
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,320
I'm known as Kid Behind a Camera because
I was always the guy filming the video.
723
00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:14,090
You might have seen Angry Grandpa
Destroyed PlayStation 4. It's got 40
724
00:47:14,090 --> 00:47:18,110
views. The video where I gave him his
dream car on Facebook has over 100
725
00:47:18,110 --> 00:47:19,970
views. The videos are everywhere.
726
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:23,670
Kevin Hart, Shaquille O 'Neal, they were
sharing a video where Dad tried to
727
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:24,850
scrub a tattoo off his back.
728
00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:29,970
And we were glad for him. We came from a
trailer park. And from the trailer
729
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:32,090
park, I was able to buy my father a
house.
730
00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:35,490
And he didn't have to worry about bills
anymore until his death.
731
00:47:36,170 --> 00:47:37,710
YouTube has given me everything.
732
00:47:38,050 --> 00:47:43,110
Right now I have two kids and I upload
daily videos with them and we're total
733
00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:44,250
white trash.
734
00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:45,650
That's what we are.
735
00:47:46,450 --> 00:47:51,870
McJuggerNugget was my biggest
competition on YouTube. One day we're
736
00:47:51,870 --> 00:47:55,310
angry grandpa videos and we're the
number one in the freak out genre.
737
00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:05,900
Then all of a sudden there's this other
guy that people are talking about. And
738
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:09,440
at the beginning, I didn't think he was
a threat. I better compete or my
739
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,198
channel's done.
740
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,060
Now all of a sudden he's doing videos
with his father and they're breaking
741
00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:14,400
things. He took my thing.
742
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:18,040
I'm not going to let you sneak that,
Daryl. But that's what happened, Jesse.
743
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,440
Really? Did I get any royalties?
744
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,800
No, you get nothing.
745
00:48:22,540 --> 00:48:25,120
Jugger Nuggets and I have done a ton of
videos together.
746
00:48:25,850 --> 00:48:27,530
He's kidnapped my kid at one point.
747
00:48:29,050 --> 00:48:31,130
It's all a blur. I don't even remember
the videos.
748
00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:35,530
When we first collabed, there was a
notebook that you showed me in 2016.
749
00:48:36,050 --> 00:48:37,050
Can you talk about that?
750
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:41,130
Whatever I write is what I write.
Sometimes it's a little note. Sometimes
751
00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:42,129
complete gibberish.
752
00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:44,770
And sometimes what I write down has
happened.
753
00:48:45,070 --> 00:48:47,610
I don't even know what I'm thinking when
I'm writing at the time.
754
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:51,510
All I know is I'll snap out of it and
I'll look and, oh, I wrote some stuff.
755
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:52,810
then I'll turn the page and write
something else.
756
00:48:55,870 --> 00:48:58,770
People call our videos fake, so they're
not going to believe it.
757
00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:00,170
I'm ashamed of it.
758
00:49:00,490 --> 00:49:04,530
Is there a certain fear you have for
this specifically being called fake?
759
00:49:05,370 --> 00:49:06,490
Yeah, because it's real.
760
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:09,110
Do you believe it, to be real?
761
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:11,470
Sometimes.
762
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:14,790
I just don't have an explanation for it.
I don't know what it is.
763
00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:21,270
This page says the love that you bring
to help me the gate is a nightmare.
764
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:23,010
Do you know?
765
00:49:23,470 --> 00:49:24,670
Yes, I remember this.
766
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Because the song came out. What's the
song?
767
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,700
The love that you bring.
768
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,660
That's the first line you have, yep.
769
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,920
Brings me home.
770
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,940
How's the chorus go? Do you love me? Do
you need me? Do you want to believe me?
771
00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:46,020
Do you think that you don't need me? Do
you want to deceive me?
772
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,280
Yeah, that's what you have.
773
00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:48,540
Pretty much.
774
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,900
Right. I mean, Jesse, I understand.
775
00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:54,760
Do you? And sometimes I'll write fake
albums.
776
00:49:55,290 --> 00:50:00,110
that don't exist, that I want to, and
I'll sing them to myself, and I'll
777
00:50:00,110 --> 00:50:03,310
that the songs are real. Sometimes I'll
go to the computer and design them.
778
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:04,510
The album's not recovered.
779
00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:05,630
You have written recovered.
780
00:50:05,970 --> 00:50:07,930
Look at the cover that I drew.
781
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:09,630
Oh, Jesus.
782
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,350
Yeah, I see a man on a road. You see the
lines.
783
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:15,330
White trash party.
784
00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:17,690
You have white trash party written down.
785
00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:19,290
Going through changes.
786
00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:22,030
You have gone through changes written
down.
787
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:23,770
Jesse.
788
00:50:24,190 --> 00:50:26,270
I'm going to look like some kind of
weirdo right now.
789
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:27,710
Nobody's buying this.
790
00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:34,030
Yep, here's another image of an Eminem
album cover. A man's face as it kind of
791
00:50:34,030 --> 00:50:35,230
blends in with a flag.
792
00:50:35,590 --> 00:50:37,170
What are some of the tracks on that
album?
793
00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:38,730
Walk on Water.
794
00:50:39,010 --> 00:50:40,910
Your first track, you have Water to
Wine.
795
00:50:42,010 --> 00:50:43,650
River. You have the river.
796
00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:44,970
What's with the star?
797
00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:46,650
Star indicates a thingle.
798
00:50:46,970 --> 00:50:48,170
River was a thingle, yeah.
799
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:51,650
You're getting some of these verbatim,
word for word.
800
00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:54,380
Yeah. It was a very important album to
me.
801
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,760
It leaked the day of Dad's funeral.
802
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,720
You think that's why?
803
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,020
Do you have a real fear of stuff that's
to come? Because there was one entry you
804
00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:09,440
had with an asteroid hitting the Earth
in 2029.
805
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:11,700
And coming back in 2036.
806
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,000
I've had dreams about it.
807
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:18,460
You've also had dreams. That asteroid
entry is not free -riding. I purposely
808
00:51:18,460 --> 00:51:20,020
wrote that one. Jesus Christ, Mike.
809
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:25,950
You have a shooting in Vegas, 2017, says
Mandalay Bay.
810
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:27,250
Yeah.
811
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:35,530
Brooklyn, Florida, the school shooting,
gun violence, it's all written together.
812
00:51:36,130 --> 00:51:37,470
Right, but what do I do with it?
813
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:40,670
It's not even a matter of what do you
do. If I go to the police and say, hey,
814
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:42,930
there's going to be a shooting, I'm
going to get arrested.
815
00:51:43,550 --> 00:51:46,410
I have a page open right here. It says
contagious.
816
00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:51,710
Says after a bite from a bat, the world
shuts down from a virus that spreads
817
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:52,710
like the plague.
818
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:57,210
The president fails to control it and
suddenly we're getting delivered
819
00:51:57,210 --> 00:52:02,230
and even washing them. The vaccine isn't
trusted and the scientists are idiots.
820
00:52:02,290 --> 00:52:05,270
Nobody wears a mask and it never goes
away.
821
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:08,410
This was written before 2020.
822
00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:10,470
It was written in like 2010.
823
00:52:11,230 --> 00:52:13,570
Correct. Says happy birthday, dad.
824
00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:15,050
Life is so good.
825
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:17,640
and I keep waiting for it to drop on my
head.
826
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,940
I don't want to lose you, but I have a
bad feeling.
827
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,140
Is it coming? How long? Under five
years.
828
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,840
That is like not telling us. Look at his
skin. What is the relevance with look
829
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,618
at his skin?
830
00:52:30,620 --> 00:52:31,620
Do you have that underlined?
831
00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:38,240
I kept having a feeling,
832
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,340
dreams where he wasn't in them for the
future.
833
00:52:45,260 --> 00:52:50,720
So I told him to get checked for
cirrhosis of the liver because his skin
834
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:52,480
ripping really easily.
835
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,620
And I told him, I was like, Dad, maybe
you should get checked for cirrhosis.
836
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,500
he told me, oh, I'm fine. I'm fine,
Mike.
837
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,800
And he died of cirrhosis.
838
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:03,600
You have this written in 2014.
839
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,640
Yeah.
840
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,520
What does it mean?
841
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:14,900
Did you ever show him this?
842
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,960
No. I told him to get checked.
843
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,680
I asked him if he would get some blood
work.
844
00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:23,960
Part of me thinks he already knew.
845
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,160
I lived in fear my whole entire life of
my father's death.
846
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,460
It haunted me since I was a child.
847
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,100
I would open the door to make sure he's
still breathing when I was 10.
848
00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:41,180
And then when he passed away, I never
felt anything about it again.
849
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,120
I'm not afraid of death anymore. I'm
not.
850
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,180
Do you think you would have listened?
851
00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:51,900
Bridget, if Michael had said something
about you, something was going to happen
852
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:53,200
to you, would you have listened to him?
853
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:58,040
Yeah, I would. At this point now,
because you've seen enough evidence?
854
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,000
warned you about stuff and you don't
believe it.
855
00:54:01,860 --> 00:54:02,860
Would you?
856
00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:04,780
Well, if it was about me, yeah.
857
00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:08,460
Bridget, Grandma, much older, long way
to go. And then what is his name?
858
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,180
Thumner. Thumner. Who is that?
859
00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:12,610
That was my grandpa.
860
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:19,170
And it has written here May 2nd, 2010,
84 years. And this was written May 2nd,
861
00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:24,890
2009. Did Sumner die? I don't know.
Yeah. I never told her grandmother this.
862
00:54:25,090 --> 00:54:27,230
They're going to hate me for it. They're
not going to hate you.
863
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:28,590
He died a year later.
864
00:54:29,110 --> 00:54:30,110
To the day.
865
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:35,570
It's just mind -boggling for somebody
who's had this many experiences like
866
00:54:35,570 --> 00:54:36,570
you've had.
867
00:54:37,330 --> 00:54:38,330
What is this?
868
00:54:39,630 --> 00:54:40,630
Someone please.
869
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,260
Every time you turn to a new page, Mike.
870
00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:45,100
Did you just write this, Mike?
871
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:46,300
What does it say?
872
00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:50,580
Show me, because now I'm freaking out.
Jesse tries to kill himself?
873
00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:54,660
What? Wife dies after a battle with
cancer.
874
00:54:54,980 --> 00:54:55,980
It's a movie idea.
875
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,040
I've seen Ashley.
876
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,160
I've had this.
877
00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:02,440
You've dreamed of this?
878
00:55:02,660 --> 00:55:03,660
No.
879
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,240
I've seen it in waking life. I've seen
her bald.
880
00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:09,180
I've seen her with cancer.
881
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:16,380
It says, they live on another plane,
always around us, always watching. They
882
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:18,060
appear to us like loved ones.
883
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,980
Because you know we're being haunted.
884
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,720
Stop. You're internalizing this stuff
too much, Jesse.
885
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:28,120
Like, that's a movie idea, man.
886
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,000
Yeah, but a lot of my video ideas have
ended up coming true. And you're writing
887
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,480
this movie. And now that I see the name,
you've mentioned this movie before. So
888
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,080
it's one that you've been writing for a
while.
889
00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:41,290
It's an idea you've had for a long time.
890
00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:45,490
It's all linked because you're feeling
it. You're feeling the future.
891
00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:48,390
Yeah. Genuinely, I never thought about
it like that. Which part?
892
00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:51,670
I'm writing movie ideas about shit.
893
00:55:52,010 --> 00:55:55,530
I'm thinking it's a movie idea because
it's an idea that came to me, but what
894
00:55:55,530 --> 00:55:56,650
it's not? What if it's something?
895
00:55:57,050 --> 00:55:58,050
Yeah.
896
00:55:58,770 --> 00:55:59,770
It's a movie, man.
897
00:56:00,410 --> 00:56:01,410
It's a movie, man.
898
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,190
So we're just stuck in this.
899
00:56:05,010 --> 00:56:08,150
I mean, I feel like that's the only way
for it to be true, right?
900
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:09,810
Yeah. We're fucked.
901
00:56:10,610 --> 00:56:12,010
Would you want to try to tap in now?
902
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:15,650
Me and you, like, one -on -one, see if
we can get anything?
903
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:16,910
It's not going to work.
904
00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:18,210
What if it does?
905
00:56:18,330 --> 00:56:24,270
Back in 2019, Jesse had this idea that
maybe we could send messages to each
906
00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:29,110
other if we're standing across from each
other. So I had Bridget on the phone. I
907
00:56:29,110 --> 00:56:32,370
texted her the emoji for the Easter
Island head.
908
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:34,170
Let's see if he guesses it.
909
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:35,590
And he guessed it.
910
00:56:36,330 --> 00:56:38,470
First thing out of his mouth was Easter
Island.
911
00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:43,590
And the hairs on my arms stuck up, and
he thought we were lying. We both cried.
912
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:47,890
How do you explain it? How did that
happen?
913
00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:51,570
I wasn't reading your mind. It's just
that I would later get exposed to Easter
914
00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:53,370
Island, and I was somehow able to see
it.
915
00:56:53,650 --> 00:57:00,590
So you think the loop scenario. So
because you see it here, you can see it
916
00:57:03,590 --> 00:57:04,710
I have some things.
917
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:08,410
I'm afraid to speak it out loud.
918
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:09,950
Because I don't want it to be wrong.
919
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:11,830
I'm also afraid it might be right, too.
920
00:57:13,550 --> 00:57:16,470
Waterfall, Appalachian, like evergreen
trees.
921
00:57:17,050 --> 00:57:18,130
Completely off, right?
922
00:57:18,930 --> 00:57:24,930
Heisenberg. Well, at the end of Breaking
Bad, he was... I'll give you a prompt.
923
00:57:25,390 --> 00:57:26,770
Animal. Llama?
924
00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:27,968
Mm -mm.
925
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:31,290
There's nothing to it. There's nothing
to the... I keep trying. Keep trying.
926
00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:33,850
You keep naming animals all day.
927
00:57:34,610 --> 00:57:35,610
Horse.
928
00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:41,800
Hippopotamus. Are we forcing it? Well,
yeah, this is definitely forcing it.
929
00:57:44,620 --> 00:57:47,700
So I got a word, actually, that came to
me, and the word was feline.
930
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,060
What are we doing here? Like a cat.
931
00:57:50,380 --> 00:57:51,380
What are we doing?
932
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:52,460
Uncle Larry.
933
00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:56,940
Let's do one more. Eventually, a broken
clock is right twice a day.
934
00:57:57,180 --> 00:57:58,180
I have no explanation.
935
00:57:58,380 --> 00:57:59,339
I'll pick another.
936
00:57:59,340 --> 00:58:00,340
Let me pick another one. We're done.
937
00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:02,020
That's it.
938
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:02,799
That's it.
939
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,900
That's what we need. We want to get at
least one on camera.
940
00:58:05,140 --> 00:58:05,959
Fake it then.
941
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,340
Who else is going to? How many people do
you know that has a notebook?
942
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,540
How many people do you know that has
predicted death like that? Everything
943
00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:14,740
I've written has been on my own.
Everything you have seen has been on
944
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,700
You can't do it under, like, people
staring.
945
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,020
This is the day that we have. We're in
your house, so there's nowhere to leave.
946
00:58:20,380 --> 00:58:21,880
I'll catch an Uber.
947
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:24,620
I'm going to leave and walk away. We did
it once. We can do it again.
948
00:58:25,050 --> 00:58:28,610
We did it once. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike,
Mike, Mike. I can't do this all day with
949
00:58:28,610 --> 00:58:30,350
you. You agreed to let us film here.
950
00:58:30,610 --> 00:58:33,050
And we've been here for seven and a half
hours. I want to get one.
951
00:58:33,370 --> 00:58:34,189
What is this?
952
00:58:34,190 --> 00:58:35,190
I told you.
953
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:39,430
It's precognitive dream work by Eric
Wargo. He also wrote this book, Time
954
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:41,650
I'm going to interview him. I think it'd
be great if you were there.
955
00:58:41,890 --> 00:58:42,890
Where does he live?
956
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:44,069
Washington, D .C.
957
00:58:44,070 --> 00:58:45,070
No, thank you.
958
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,160
You want answers? You want to understand
it like I do? Then, yeah, we're going
959
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,480
to talk to the expert who knows. And
what is me being in Eric Wargo's house
960
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,380
going to solve on anything? If you read
these books and he talks about what's in
961
00:58:56,380 --> 00:59:00,020
there, you will be convinced. He's
coming up with terms. He's been studying
962
00:59:00,020 --> 00:59:01,020
for decades.
963
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,840
How much money have you spent on this?
964
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,280
I've invested everything into this film.
965
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:06,700
Everything, Jesse?
966
00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:08,740
Oh, my God.
967
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:12,940
I still get these visions. I still get
things.
968
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,880
I haven't gotten anything in a while.
969
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,700
Maybe because you've closed yourself off
to it. I don't, yeah, that's exactly
970
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:20,180
what I've done. And you should too.
971
00:59:20,380 --> 00:59:23,580
Can you please, can you come with me?
Because I'm tired of feeling like I'm
972
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:24,580
alone in this.
973
00:59:25,060 --> 00:59:26,860
I know we haven't talked in a bit.
974
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,960
But I thought it'd be nice to reopen
that and I have somebody who's been
975
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,220
with me. Hey, you can write me anytime
that you want.
976
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,620
Okay? Of course, dude.
977
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:39,240
You just gotta unblock me.
978
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:42,220
And your dad and your mom.
979
00:59:43,509 --> 00:59:45,630
Have your family unblock me. We can be
friends.
980
00:59:47,170 --> 00:59:50,410
But this, I can't go to this guy's
house. I can't.
981
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:52,650
I thought you were giving it to me.
982
00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:58,030
You have money. Go order your own book.
You probably won't.
983
00:59:59,370 --> 01:00:01,790
I wasn't going to read it. I didn't
think so.
984
01:00:02,030 --> 01:00:04,630
Your own dad's death, how many times in
there?
985
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:08,890
And you still can't honestly look me in
the eyes and say you don't believe that
986
01:00:08,890 --> 01:00:09,890
there's something here.
987
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:11,770
Look me in the eyes and tell me.
988
01:00:12,820 --> 01:00:15,260
that you don't believe there's something
here?
989
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,560
You want to know the truth?
990
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,480
If it's real, and I could have prevented
it, I don't know how I live with
991
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,480
myself.
992
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:27,700
That's the truth.
993
01:00:27,860 --> 01:00:32,480
If I could have said something to Dad,
or I could have prevented it, I'm not
994
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,600
going to be able to live with myself.
995
01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:37,120
It can't be real.
996
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:40,860
It can't. It can't be real.
997
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,340
Of all the people in this thick joke
that would be having these visions, it's
998
01:00:46,340 --> 01:00:51,300
just me and this guy who have faked our
entire lives for the internet. You can
999
01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:54,160
show them proof on this movie and
they'll never believe you.
1000
01:00:56,660 --> 01:00:57,700
I'm sorry, man.
1001
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,600
I'll believe you.
1002
01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:03,280
If you show me proof, I'll believe you.
Not enough.
1003
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,280
Gotta be.
1004
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:09,020
Sorry that business stuff didn't work
out with us.
1005
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,220
I did that business because I believed
it. I hope you believe in me now because
1006
01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:18,320
I don't have anything left. I need to
figure out what this is.
1007
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,780
God damn, I just hope people believe it.
1008
01:01:24,820 --> 01:01:27,920
Because if this comes out and they don't
believe the stuff that we're saying,
1009
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:28,919
I'm done.
1010
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,560
I don't think I can recover from that.
Just prepare yourself for the
1011
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,560
that they will.
1012
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:52,740
Yeah, we were coming from South
Carolina, and then there's my fellow
1013
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,020
He's had a lot of experiences, and then,
yeah, he didn't really want to come
1014
01:01:57,020 --> 01:01:58,020
with, so it's just me.
1015
01:01:58,180 --> 01:01:59,300
Why didn't he want to come?
1016
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:03,780
He's actually a bit freaked out by all
of it. People are scared of the topic.
1017
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:08,960
Yeah. Scared when it happens, and they
don't understand.
1018
01:02:10,820 --> 01:02:15,320
It really makes me feel like that I'm
just kind of playing all of this out,
1019
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,640
I don't have control of anything.
1020
01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:18,070
maybe that's true.
1021
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:23,550
I'm about to like trauma dump on you.
And then made the mistake of putting my
1022
01:02:23,550 --> 01:02:24,550
email on the book.
1023
01:02:27,010 --> 01:02:30,350
It's not a mistake, but, but I've gotten
a lot of emails. How do you feel when
1024
01:02:30,350 --> 01:02:33,450
people start telling you their dreams? I
love hearing, I love hearing their
1025
01:02:33,450 --> 01:02:37,290
dreams because dreams are the most
brilliant, brilliant things. And we're
1026
01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:39,750
genius artists while we're sleeping.
1027
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:45,690
And that ingenuity in the way person
will represent some future event in the
1028
01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:46,690
dream scenario.
1029
01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:48,610
is just, it's brilliant.
1030
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:54,230
I'm Eric Wargo. I have a PhD in
anthropology and I work as a science
1031
01:02:54,230 --> 01:03:00,290
Washington, D .C. I am the author of two
books on precognition, Time Looped and
1032
01:03:00,290 --> 01:03:02,610
Precognitive Dreamwork and the Long
Self.
1033
01:03:02,930 --> 01:03:07,310
Physicists since Einstein's time have
pretty much accepted that we live in
1034
01:03:07,310 --> 01:03:08,590
what's called a block universe.
1035
01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:11,050
That is to say, we live in a space -time
continuum.
1036
01:03:11,410 --> 01:03:14,790
What that implies is that the future
already exists.
1037
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:20,770
And if that cosmology, that block
universe cosmology that allows something
1038
01:03:20,770 --> 01:03:24,570
precognition to exist because it means
that there is a future that can
1039
01:03:24,570 --> 01:03:28,250
us now. You can get all kinds of things
out of your dreams. You can get creative
1040
01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:29,570
insights, personal insights.
1041
01:03:29,850 --> 01:03:34,670
You need to get a feel for that
associative language, get a feel for the
1042
01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:39,950
that your brain is taking real life and
twisting it and transforming it.
1043
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,820
and turning it into something symbolic.
1044
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,440
In the ancient world, in ancient Greece,
in ancient Egypt, there were temples
1045
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,020
and caves where people would go to
dream, to have healing dreams.
1046
01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:53,640
And there were priests that would help
you interpret your dreams. And it was
1047
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,080
believed that they could, by sleeping in
caves, they could get in touch with the
1048
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,020
dead. And the dead, because they didn't
have bodies, were more in touch with the
1049
01:04:02,020 --> 01:04:05,620
future. And so they would ask the dead
questions about the future.
1050
01:04:05,820 --> 01:04:08,540
Once I would get control of my dreams, I
would start to query future
1051
01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:12,780
information. Dead family members would
tell me things. It was almost like I got
1052
01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:19,740
control. And it started to become a very
bad thing. It is a bad
1053
01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:21,100
thing. It is currently a bad thing.
1054
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:31,660
It's like an obsession now of, like,
trying to get future information, you
1055
01:04:32,620 --> 01:04:35,400
Because I've had relatives die that I
knew would die.
1056
01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:36,940
And I want to stop it.
1057
01:04:39,420 --> 01:04:40,620
But I can't stop it.
1058
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:42,300
Then why show it?
1059
01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:47,620
What do I do?
1060
01:04:48,460 --> 01:04:49,379
You know?
1061
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:50,380
What is it?
1062
01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:52,200
It's a normal thing.
1063
01:04:53,420 --> 01:04:57,020
And it happens to everybody.
1064
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,560
It doesn't feel like it's normal.
1065
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,170
Well, it doesn't feel like it's normal
because our... Culture doesn't normalize
1066
01:05:02,170 --> 01:05:03,170
it.
1067
01:05:03,550 --> 01:05:08,510
Okay, our culture, first of all, sweeps
the whole topic under the rug. One of
1068
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:13,870
the things that I've learned in my study
of this topic is that those bad things
1069
01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:16,410
that you dream about, they're just a
tiny fraction.
1070
01:05:16,890 --> 01:05:23,070
If I decide to lean into it, that this
was all a real thing, that, okay, maybe
1071
01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:27,030
you can see a little bit into the
future, well, then all of this is BS.
1072
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:29,390
All of what is BS?
1073
01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:32,480
existence, like life.
1074
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:37,980
Like, it just feels like I don't have
choice, that I don't have any free will
1075
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:38,980
whatsoever.
1076
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,380
You know, I think the free will thing is
partly a Western hang -up.
1077
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:49,780
Einstein's discoveries showed that for
any, like, any present moment in the
1078
01:05:49,780 --> 01:05:52,920
universe, there's a point of view from
which it's already in the past. So from
1079
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,180
that point of view, it's not freely
willed.
1080
01:05:55,420 --> 01:05:58,160
Prophecies are always on some level self
-fulfilling.
1081
01:05:58,780 --> 01:06:03,900
That is to say, they are part of a loop
where our freely willed actions lead to
1082
01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:06,580
some point that we have prophesied.
1083
01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:11,900
And that point that we have prophesied
has fed back and influenced our actions
1084
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:16,000
leading to that point. It kind of
created some form of magic in this world
1085
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,560
was, I guess, nice to cling to.
1086
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,120
And it's given you the topic of a
feature film.
1087
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,400
Here we are.
1088
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,000
It's incredibly common for artists.
1089
01:06:25,610 --> 01:06:31,570
for their life to imitate their art in
some uncanny way. There was an 1898
1090
01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:38,430
called Futility by a sea adventure
writer named Morgan Robertson. And in
1091
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:44,590
this novel, the largest ocean liner
ever, called Titan, collides with an
1092
01:06:44,590 --> 01:06:45,950
on an April night.
1093
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:51,220
In the North Atlantic, on a run between
New York and Liverpool, and almost all
1094
01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:53,640
the passengers are killed because there
aren't enough lifeboats.
1095
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:58,140
Virtually that same scenario played out
14 years later, the Titanic disaster.
1096
01:06:58,420 --> 01:07:02,900
In that case, it was a mirror image of
that run between Liverpool and New York.
1097
01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:07,940
So many people, for instance, had
premonitions of 9 -11 before it
1098
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:13,660
David Mandel woke up from a dream on
September 11, 1996.
1099
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,640
in which the towers in New York were
crashing together.
1100
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,960
And he painted this and then had himself
photographed under the clock at his
1101
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,240
local bank because he very frequently
had premonitions, dream premonitions
1102
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,020
came true. And a few months after that,
he had another dream of planes crashing
1103
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:35,640
into the towers. So as you can imagine,
he was pretty stunned when the event
1104
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,740
unfolded on 9 -11 in 2001.
1105
01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:42,330
You have a term for that in your book,
right? Yeah, calendrical resonance.
1106
01:07:42,690 --> 01:07:45,230
Well, there's some way in which just the
same way that you might be
1107
01:07:45,230 --> 01:07:49,430
unconsciously primed by an anniversary
to like, you know, I'm in a bad mood
1108
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:52,410
today. And you look at the calendar,
it's like, oh, this is the day that my
1109
01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:55,530
girlfriend broke up with me two years,
you know, two years ago, whatever. The
1110
01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:59,250
same way that we're primed that way, I
think we're primed in the opposite
1111
01:07:59,250 --> 01:08:02,250
direction. Had you heard of this woman
in Toronto?
1112
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:06,710
She won $60 million in 2021 based off
of...
1113
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:12,860
the exact sequence of numbers that were
dreamt by her husband 19 years earlier.
1114
01:08:13,340 --> 01:08:15,520
Wow. No, I did not know about that case.
1115
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,439
Tried to get her an interview and talk
to the lottery, and I talked to the
1116
01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:22,760
and they were like, she's not giving any
handouts.
1117
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,300
Right. Everybody was like, no, I just
want to talk to her about the dream and
1118
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:27,939
the numbers. I don't want the money,
right?
1119
01:08:28,180 --> 01:08:31,779
To have a dream that comes true a day
later, well, that's pretty mind
1120
01:08:31,939 --> 01:08:37,069
To have a dream that comes true decades
later, like talk about... certainty that
1121
01:08:37,069 --> 01:08:41,430
you live in a block universe i even had
one small dream where it was real basic
1122
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:45,630
i just felt in the back of my mouth
really sharp pain in the back near the
1123
01:08:45,630 --> 01:08:51,229
molars and it inspired me to be go to
the dentist and there was a cavity right
1124
01:08:51,229 --> 01:08:55,029
there and so That dream just really
helped me out there.
1125
01:08:55,310 --> 01:09:01,090
Freud's story is so ironic from start to
finish, it's not even funny. He was
1126
01:09:01,090 --> 01:09:05,710
having arguably precognitive experiences
throughout his life. He didn't really
1127
01:09:05,710 --> 01:09:10,390
dream of how he was going to die, but he
dreamed about the oral cancer that he
1128
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:15,430
was going to develop later in his life.
Part of the dream was the symptoms in
1129
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:18,910
the mouth of one of his patients, you
know, nearly three decades later,
1130
01:09:19,350 --> 01:09:23,229
exactly what happened in his own mouth.
I argue that Green was a premonition
1131
01:09:23,229 --> 01:09:26,390
that just went unrecognized, as most
premonitions do.
1132
01:09:26,670 --> 01:09:28,290
Harriet Tubman had...
1133
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,439
what we would now call very standard
precognitive dreams. Dreams about a
1134
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,760
particular family member being in
danger. She would see herself flying
1135
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:43,060
landscape. She would dream about women
dressed in white who would help her on
1136
01:09:43,060 --> 01:09:48,520
her journeys to the north. When she was
in her early teens, she received a very
1137
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,700
strong blow on the head. Quite common in
the biographies of people with powerful
1138
01:09:52,700 --> 01:09:57,140
precognitive experiences that they have
some sort of physical trauma, like a
1139
01:09:57,140 --> 01:10:01,510
head injury. or being struck by
lightning or something like that. I had
1140
01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:04,390
injury right around when I was the age
of 21.
1141
01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:10,830
Do you feel like that brain injury has
any relevance to this? I've had them
1142
01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:14,950
after the brain injury, before the brain
injury. One of the most striking modern
1143
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:20,730
cases of a regular precognitive dreamer
is a woman named Elizabeth Krohn. In
1144
01:10:20,730 --> 01:10:25,410
1988, she was struck by lightning. She
started having regular precognitive
1145
01:10:25,410 --> 01:10:30,100
dream. And one of the vivid details was
that the passengers were somehow
1146
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:34,920
standing on the wings. What happened was
a few hours later, Chesley Sullenberger
1147
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,120
pilots his plane to a safe landing on
the Hudson. All the passengers then come
1148
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,700
out standing on the wings waiting to be
rescued by a nearby boat. And these
1149
01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:47,020
photos went viral on the Internet. Was
it the lightning strike which somehow
1150
01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:52,160
jolted something loose in her brain, you
know, or did it just, like, give her
1151
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,840
this heightened awareness of death?
1152
01:10:56,030 --> 01:11:00,390
things that would magnetize her
attention after that. You know, was it
1153
01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:03,410
like a trauma? Who knows? I mean, I
think there's all kinds of ways in which
1154
01:11:03,410 --> 01:11:05,510
these kinds of experiences can change
us.
1155
01:11:06,150 --> 01:11:11,590
Precognition is intuition by another
name. It is a kind of memory. It's a
1156
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:18,010
of connection to our own future, the
same way memory, ordinary memory, is a
1157
01:11:18,010 --> 01:11:19,010
connection to our past.
1158
01:11:19,370 --> 01:11:22,870
Where does deja vu fall into this?
Because I've had a tremendous amount,
1159
01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:28,130
would swear that it was a dream that I
had that I didn't write down, and that's
1160
01:11:28,130 --> 01:11:29,490
where that familiarity came from.
1161
01:11:29,810 --> 01:11:33,750
Yeah, a lot of people ask that. A lot of
people think that, well, deja vu must
1162
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:37,730
be an aspect of this, and it could be.
The trouble is there's no way to test
1163
01:11:38,130 --> 01:11:41,930
I remember I was in Atlantic City
getting a call that one of my close
1164
01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:45,350
had overdosed. His name was Scott. He
shows up in my dreams a lot.
1165
01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:50,830
I remember walking this Atlantic City
street, thinking Scott had just died,
1166
01:11:50,830 --> 01:11:53,790
I just got this crazy deja vu. I was
like, I'd lived this before.
1167
01:11:56,150 --> 01:11:58,510
Whoa. I just had deja vu.
1168
01:11:59,330 --> 01:12:00,330
What?
1169
01:12:00,570 --> 01:12:01,930
I just had deja vu.
1170
01:12:02,270 --> 01:12:03,148
Nuh -uh.
1171
01:12:03,150 --> 01:12:05,010
Is it odd? No, I just had deja vu.
1172
01:12:05,790 --> 01:12:06,890
How could that be possible?
1173
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:09,690
Usually it's knowing what people are
going to say.
1174
01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:13,990
Like I've already heard them say the
phrase before they said it and I could
1175
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:17,570
word for word say it. But then all of a
sudden it like it does feel like it
1176
01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:21,430
shifts. Like once I draw attention to
it, all of a sudden you lose it. Yeah.
1177
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:26,330
Another thing that contributes to
precognitive abilities is sort of being
1178
01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:30,630
to linger on that border line between
waking and sleep.
1179
01:12:31,930 --> 01:12:35,770
Semi -awake states, it's called
hypnagogia. Those are the sort of
1180
01:12:35,770 --> 01:12:40,430
images that you have on your way to
falling asleep. Those are often rich for
1181
01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:42,010
precognitive material.
1182
01:12:42,650 --> 01:12:47,150
Thomas Edison famously got inspiration
by maintaining himself in a state of
1183
01:12:47,150 --> 01:12:51,310
hypnagogia, and I don't know exactly
what his method was. Salvador Dali, he's
1184
01:12:51,310 --> 01:12:55,790
the one who used a pair, like he'd hold
some keys in his hand, he would have a
1185
01:12:55,790 --> 01:13:00,110
plate below the keys, and he would sit
in a chair, and then as he...
1186
01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:04,890
dozed off he'd drop the keys and that
would wake him up and so that's the key
1187
01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:09,930
accessing hypnagogic information or in
dolly's case painted i mean he would
1188
01:13:09,930 --> 01:13:14,450
paint these very elaborate paintings of
these just bizarre images that would
1189
01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:19,570
occur to him on the edge of sleep
because can i show you something sure
1190
01:13:19,570 --> 01:13:26,560
come across this man before no do you
look familiar at all no He's appeared
1191
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,520
in multiple dreams of mine, and he's
told me future information.
1192
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:35,840
Well, dreams always personify things,
and they personify abstractions. And it
1193
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:41,840
sounds like your dreaming brain is
personifying the idea of precognition.
1194
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,440
an abstraction right there. And it's
personifying it by attaching it to a
1195
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:49,180
figure. To me, I feel...
1196
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:54,100
as close to evil as you can get. Like, I
don't get a good impression from him,
1197
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:59,680
and when he tells me any of these
details, I almost feel like he's got an
1198
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,440
that is not for my benefit.
1199
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,960
Isn't that how you feel about
precognition in general?
1200
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:12,460
Figures that appear evil in our dreams,
if we encounter them in real life,
1201
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,660
they're not evil at all. I mean, don't
be afraid of this guy.
1202
01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:18,740
Like, he's like the last person I'm
going to see.
1203
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,960
In your life, you mean?
1204
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,680
Yeah.
1205
01:14:29,420 --> 01:14:33,580
So, like, if I ever do see him, I think
that'll be it.
1206
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:36,280
I think that'll be the end.
1207
01:14:41,540 --> 01:14:45,280
I would say that you're probably wrong.
1208
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,840
Traveled all the way across the country
to Ion. This is the Institute of Noetic
1209
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,340
Sciences. This is one of the premier
research facilities on consciousness.
1210
01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:04,860
We're getting to talk to some of the
lead researchers in this field, and
1211
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:07,060
finally, I can get some answers.
1212
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,160
Aw, I'll be damned.
1213
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,500
He actually showed up.
1214
01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:12,260
Hello there, sir.
1215
01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:14,500
Okay.
1216
01:15:14,660 --> 01:15:16,740
Wow. I didn't think you'd show up, man.
1217
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,040
Yep.
1218
01:15:18,190 --> 01:15:20,530
You seem like you're, like, not even
sure why you're here.
1219
01:15:20,910 --> 01:15:22,350
I'm not sure why I'm here.
1220
01:15:22,570 --> 01:15:23,730
You said you had something.
1221
01:15:24,090 --> 01:15:27,410
Yep, the scientists are kind enough to
let us in with the cameras and let us do
1222
01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:28,269
some experiments.
1223
01:15:28,270 --> 01:15:30,710
So, if you're ready, then let's do it.
1224
01:15:31,090 --> 01:15:34,250
I'm open to it. Hey, I wouldn't be here
if I didn't trust you.
1225
01:15:39,090 --> 01:15:40,630
Like, bleeding for no reason.
1226
01:15:42,410 --> 01:15:45,030
But the one day we're all white, it was
bleeding.
1227
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,080
You nervous?
1228
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,260
You can't be bringing the nervous energy
and it'll affect the results.
1229
01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:03,840
Hi, Jesse. Hey, Cedric. Welcome to IONS.
How are you? Thank you. Thanks for
1230
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,400
doing this. This is Michael, too, by the
way. Nice to meet you. I'm Cedric. I
1231
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,780
thought he could be doing some of the
experiments with us. Sure, of course. No
1232
01:16:10,780 --> 01:16:13,180
problem. Cool. Well, are you guys ready
to go see the lab?
1233
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:14,779
Oh, it's not here.
1234
01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:16,940
It's downstairs, yeah. These are the
offices.
1235
01:16:17,470 --> 01:16:20,050
Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, we're here.
1236
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:22,790
We're a little nervous, honestly.
1237
01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:25,690
Don't worry. You'll be safe.
1238
01:16:28,710 --> 01:16:31,450
So you actually believe in this stuff?
1239
01:16:32,210 --> 01:16:37,190
Well, I believe in the scientific
method, and we do see significant
1240
01:16:37,530 --> 01:16:41,130
And I do believe people's subjective
experiences.
1241
01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:43,870
But it's definitely a hard question to
answer.
1242
01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:46,670
Yeah, very hard question, Mike.
1243
01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:53,430
What is this about? This is a look at a
sixth sense through time, through all
1244
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:54,430
the ages.
1245
01:16:54,570 --> 01:16:55,630
People that can heal.
1246
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:58,570
This book's not even in English.
1247
01:16:59,430 --> 01:17:00,430
I can't read this.
1248
01:17:02,050 --> 01:17:05,410
Every single one of these books is on
consciousness, parapsychology,
1249
01:17:05,550 --> 01:17:08,850
precognition. So you can't tell me
there's not something here or else
1250
01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:11,570
wouldn't have dedicated hundreds of
years of research.
1251
01:17:12,710 --> 01:17:14,150
Imagine writing a book this big.
1252
01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:16,930
I don't even want to read a book that
big.
1253
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,440
The Memoirs of a Psychic Spy. Yeah, and
then they got remote viewers.
1254
01:17:21,140 --> 01:17:24,800
Remote viewing? Where's that at? Eric
Orgo is talking about Joe McMoneagle,
1255
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,440
Remote Viewer 001.
1256
01:17:26,900 --> 01:17:29,980
They'd have him pick a spot in the
world.
1257
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:32,760
He'd see it and draw it, photographic
memory.
1258
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,220
And then they'd reveal the location, and
then they'd look at it with the
1259
01:17:37,220 --> 01:17:39,320
picture. It's a perfect match. Is that
real?
1260
01:17:39,620 --> 01:17:41,200
Yeah. Yeah. This happened?
1261
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:45,520
100%. This is a real thing. They ran, it
was Operation Stargate. They ran it for
1262
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,520
like 20, 30 years.
1263
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,340
And they had success with it, and then
they shut it down.
1264
01:17:49,780 --> 01:17:52,800
Why would they shut it down? Well, the
theory is that it's still going, but
1265
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,800
more in secret now.
1266
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:56,800
Weren't there, like, CIA documents that
leaked when they were really working on
1267
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:57,800
this stuff? No, it's all public now.
1268
01:17:58,300 --> 01:17:59,900
It came out, like, five years ago.
1269
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,620
I don't know. So you can even read it
all for yourself. It's possible that's
1270
01:18:03,620 --> 01:18:07,660
just precognition. It's because they get
exposed to the location, the future.
1271
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:09,280
It just all keeps going back to it.
1272
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,360
Exactly. It is interesting. Like, maybe
everything just boils down to
1273
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,360
precognition.
1274
01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:22,470
Like maybe that's love at first sight.
Exactly. Maybe you just, when you feel
1275
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:24,510
it, I feel like I know you. Right.
1276
01:18:25,130 --> 01:18:26,150
Well, you will.
1277
01:18:26,890 --> 01:18:27,890
That's interesting.
1278
01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:33,670
I'm a senior research associate at IONS.
I've been here for about five years. We
1279
01:18:33,670 --> 01:18:34,670
have studied meditation,
1280
01:18:35,610 --> 01:18:40,510
altered states of consciousness,
precognition, presentiment, telepathic
1281
01:18:40,510 --> 01:18:41,510
experiences,
1282
01:18:42,150 --> 01:18:45,630
remote viewing, all these phenomena that
exist.
1283
01:18:46,670 --> 01:18:51,010
People may access information that
transcends space and time, that there
1284
01:18:51,010 --> 01:18:52,710
more to reality than we think.
1285
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:54,290
Why? I'm not saying anything.
1286
01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:59,130
And this goes back to decades ago with
the double slit experiment.
1287
01:18:59,630 --> 01:19:00,630
I'm convinced.
1288
01:19:00,730 --> 01:19:05,850
My favorite topic is pre -sentimental
precognition, mainly because I feel like
1289
01:19:05,850 --> 01:19:08,150
it's the easiest to control
scientifically.
1290
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:09,709
The easiest?
1291
01:19:09,710 --> 01:19:15,130
Today we're going to use this headset
called the Gallia, made by OpenBCI, a
1292
01:19:15,130 --> 01:19:16,210
headset that...
1293
01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:19,310
combines VR with electrophysiology.
1294
01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:24,950
And so we're going to use that to study
how your body may have processes that
1295
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:26,190
may predict car crashes.
1296
01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:28,510
I'm not going to get shocked, right?
1297
01:19:29,090 --> 01:19:32,110
No. Have you guys done tests where it
is?
1298
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:36,750
Because I've seen it seems like it's
more linked towards the more emotional
1299
01:19:36,750 --> 01:19:40,090
response of the thing that gets
precognized.
1300
01:19:40,910 --> 01:19:46,650
We did see an increase in the occipital
regions, which is the visual regions, as
1301
01:19:46,650 --> 01:19:49,210
if the participants were seeing
something.
1302
01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:54,270
And that was only 130 milliseconds
before the image appeared.
1303
01:19:54,590 --> 01:19:55,690
130 milliseconds?
1304
01:19:55,950 --> 01:19:57,990
Yeah, that's very, very fast.
1305
01:19:58,310 --> 01:20:03,510
I mean, I feel like that's proof right
there, right? I mean, if you go 130
1306
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:07,970
milliseconds, then what's stopping you
from doing more?
1307
01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:10,770
What do you mean?
1308
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:11,910
Let's get this thing on Jesse.
1309
01:20:12,410 --> 01:20:13,790
They're passively recording.
1310
01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:15,450
Passively? Yeah.
1311
01:20:15,630 --> 01:20:17,170
Dude, it looks like a jigsaw trap.
1312
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:18,510
See how it looks?
1313
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:25,510
Who are the players in this space?
1314
01:20:26,210 --> 01:20:30,150
IONS has been their leader for a long
time, generating the chief scientist
1315
01:20:30,150 --> 01:20:31,670
that's done most of the work.
1316
01:20:32,010 --> 01:20:33,170
Should we act like there was an
accident?
1317
01:20:33,670 --> 01:20:35,130
Yeah, like once every...
1318
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,940
It's not that crazy.
1319
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,520
Right, right.
1320
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,540
So I don't scream and throw it off my
head, right?
1321
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,640
Yeah, kind of like you just saw. Right,
okay, yeah.
1322
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,080
It doesn't matter too much. Whatever's
on your mind.
1323
01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:52,160
So this, like, proves what?
1324
01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:58,380
You can mirror activity from the future
to the past. What time? Let go.
1325
01:20:58,820 --> 01:21:00,600
I've seen enough. There's nothing here,
dude.
1326
01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:04,340
It's no disrespect.
1327
01:21:05,020 --> 01:21:06,940
I just don't. What do you want to know?
1328
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,080
Nothing moves here.
1329
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:11,500
I got to go.
1330
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,880
Can you wait? Hold on.
1331
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,540
Do you have anything?
1332
01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:20,940
I feel like I'm a burden of this. I got
to go. No, no. I think it's fine.
1333
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,480
Michael, what's your take on a drug
that's commonly taken or, for example, a
1334
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:28,480
COVID vaccine?
1335
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,600
Are you convinced it is efficient?
1336
01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:34,170
Because you took the vaccine, right? I
took the vaccine.
1337
01:21:34,410 --> 01:21:36,450
Yeah. I got COVID. I'm alive.
1338
01:21:37,230 --> 01:21:41,970
So if you look at the reports, the
science that validated the Pfizer
1339
01:21:42,090 --> 01:21:48,270
for example, they had a confidence level
of 95%. And that allowed the vaccine to
1340
01:21:48,270 --> 01:21:50,270
be released to the world safely.
1341
01:21:51,330 --> 01:21:56,550
And they had, for example... I agree. I
like it. Yeah.
1342
01:21:56,810 --> 01:22:00,530
So the 95%. 95 % confidence.
1343
01:22:01,370 --> 01:22:02,370
No,
1344
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:05,910
it's good. It's good. Okay. You took the
vaccine, Mike.
1345
01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:07,130
Yeah.
1346
01:22:07,310 --> 01:22:10,570
Knowing it was 95%, but you're not
willing to take the pre -sentiment
1347
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:13,490
which was that at 95%. It's different
research, Jesse.
1348
01:22:13,790 --> 01:22:15,610
Have you done dream -related studies?
1349
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:19,410
Right. As, like, people dream, yeah,
like, say, dreaming specifically, or,
1350
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:20,450
visions and things?
1351
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:24,270
That would be Julianne Musbridge, maybe.
I haven't personally.
1352
01:22:24,730 --> 01:22:27,710
I mean, I could talk about the data, but
honestly, it's not convincing.
1353
01:22:27,950 --> 01:22:31,670
You all know that I believe that this is
true and that the statistics stand by
1354
01:22:31,670 --> 01:22:35,710
it. But let me ask you, is there any
particular statistical test you would
1355
01:22:35,710 --> 01:22:36,669
to believe this?
1356
01:22:36,670 --> 01:22:38,690
Or would you prefer personal experience?
1357
01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:42,150
Three quarters of the audience, personal
experience. These are statisticians.
1358
01:22:42,150 --> 01:22:46,130
Their whole job is to draw conclusions
from statistics. And what personal
1359
01:22:46,130 --> 01:22:49,130
experience do you feel like they were
looking for? They need to have it
1360
01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:52,250
themselves. Everyone needs to have it
themselves. And that's why I'm so
1361
01:22:52,250 --> 01:22:53,750
passionate about lifting the stigma.
1362
01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:58,900
Yeah. Because probably 80 to 85 % of
people have had experiences like these.
1363
01:22:58,940 --> 01:23:04,100
Wow. Since I was a kid, I've been having
very detailed predictive dreams. And I
1364
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:09,120
started to take a dream journal down.
They were so detailed and clear that I
1365
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,780
became convinced that this wasn't my
unconscious mind. I was like a field
1366
01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:14,780
to be planted.
1367
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,380
So people who are particularly skilled
at music, we notice as their children,
1368
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:21,980
and we say, hey, we're going to give you
piano lessons, we're going to give you
1369
01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:25,960
voice lessons, you know, drum, whatever
it is, right? With this kind of stuff,
1370
01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:29,940
there's stigma, there's concern, there's
fear of the devil. So that if you're in
1371
01:23:29,940 --> 01:23:34,820
that top 3 % to 5%, you're more likely
to shut that down. Is it a funding
1372
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:36,640
Yeah, there's very little money in
research.
1373
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:41,120
You have to run a whole study, recruit
all these participants, measure them,
1374
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,760
analyze the data, publish a manuscript,
often pressured to have an effect.
1375
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,200
So there's a whole group of scientists
and institutions that are trying to
1376
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,300
disprove what you have been doing? There
are a few.
1377
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,560
You're not holding back?
1378
01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:58,140
No. Everyone's so careful because they
have to be.
1379
01:23:58,440 --> 01:23:59,820
But I don't have to be.
1380
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:04,960
Yeah, because, I mean, you're in this
field. I decided to not pursue tenure
1381
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,700
-track academic positions at Tier 1
research institutions because I was told
1382
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:11,920
take this off my resume if I wanted to
pursue those. You were told to take what
1383
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,160
off? To take anything related to psychic
stuff off of my resume.
1384
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,519
Psychic stuff?
1385
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,200
Yeah, yeah. And I said, no, thank you,
because it's the most interesting stuff
1386
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,900
do. Are you kidding me? People can
predict the future, and I can show that
1387
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:28,880
scientifically? Not taking that off my
resume, thank you. I'll just go do that.
1388
01:24:29,150 --> 01:24:32,490
Is this why we're at where we're at?
They laughed at me. They laughed.
1389
01:24:32,910 --> 01:24:36,870
When she read, oh, I'm reading her
resume more closely. She's done some
1390
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:38,490
interesting stuff. And then people
laugh.
1391
01:24:39,230 --> 01:24:43,250
I've always been really skilled at
noticing how people are, how they carry
1392
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:46,190
themselves, how they express themselves,
their tone of voice.
1393
01:24:46,650 --> 01:24:51,530
And so when a teacher would say
something and the words were wrapped in
1394
01:24:51,530 --> 01:24:56,330
and there was a little bit of a nudge or
a nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
1395
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,780
Those people who believe in this. Right.
1396
01:24:59,060 --> 01:25:02,860
That tells you there's something there.
There's a sense of there's truth there.
1397
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:07,000
So they have to cover up the truth
because there's this unknown thing that
1398
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,000
don't really understand.
1399
01:25:08,140 --> 01:25:09,440
Yeah. And that goes into shame.
1400
01:25:09,740 --> 01:25:14,480
So I've seen that cycle over and over
again. And so you can pinpoint where in
1401
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:20,100
the future there will be scientific
revolutions based on where the shame is
1402
01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:22,540
Do you believe that precognition is
real?
1403
01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:25,720
I've heard experiences that seem...
1404
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,680
Far from being possible by coincidence,
but I don't know. We don't know.
1405
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,440
Well, if you had to pick a thought, like
if you had to boil it down, like a yes
1406
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:39,080
or no, like do you believe, like what
camp do you side?
1407
01:25:39,500 --> 01:25:42,960
I'm in the middle. Let's see. So if
time's going this way, let's pretend
1408
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:43,960
linear. Ha, ha, ha.
1409
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:50,180
So anyway, time's going this way in a
line, and here's an event that occurs,
1410
01:25:50,180 --> 01:25:53,460
here's your prediction of the event, and
that these are in relationship with
1411
01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:54,279
each other.
1412
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,180
I'm creating the loop with the film.
1413
01:25:56,440 --> 01:25:59,880
Yep. It's like nature's way of making
things important.
1414
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,800
Right. And making connections that
weren't there before. It's really
1415
01:26:04,180 --> 01:26:07,620
I think this is interwoven with the
fabric of the universe, and it's
1416
01:26:07,940 --> 01:26:12,320
And so it just kind of lends itself to
the case for meditation and being more
1417
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:13,340
relaxed. Oh, shit.
1418
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,220
Like 257. Oh, okay. All right.
1419
01:26:16,700 --> 01:26:18,000
Can we get a handheld?
1420
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,220
Is that it would be really valuable to
try to figure out how to harness this.
1421
01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:25,100
wouldn't be the first country who tried
to do that. Do you think it's still
1422
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,960
ongoing? I don't know enough to know. I
don't have a security clearance right
1423
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,480
now. Do you think this is all precursor
to developing some ability to navigate
1424
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:34,800
through time differently?
1425
01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:36,500
Why, yes, I do.
1426
01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:40,640
You do? Yeah. I call that informational
time travel, and that's what I work on
1427
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,240
now is how can we send ourselves a
message from the future? That would be
1428
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:48,620
useful. Is there anything I can do to
channel that further? Yes, so
1429
01:26:48,620 --> 01:26:53,440
unconditional love. So self -transcended
experiences where you're connected with
1430
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:54,440
something larger than yourself.
1431
01:26:54,860 --> 01:26:59,120
Being in a state of unconditional love,
I've shown in two studies now that that
1432
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,340
actually increases accuracy in terms of
receiving information from the future.
1433
01:27:04,540 --> 01:27:06,260
So just removing the filters.
1434
01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:07,700
I've got to go.
1435
01:27:07,940 --> 01:27:10,900
What does unconditional love do?
1436
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,120
Unconditional love, which is really...
1437
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,240
Loving without the need for something to
change. Like loving as is.
1438
01:27:17,900 --> 01:27:21,460
When you love something as is, you're
also loving basically the calculation
1439
01:27:21,460 --> 01:27:22,460
the universe has made.
1440
01:27:22,740 --> 01:27:24,520
You're saying this is what's true.
1441
01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:25,860
Is there somewhere I can go?
1442
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,640
In here, buddy.
1443
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,920
I come all the way to Ion.
1444
01:27:30,940 --> 01:27:34,280
I come all the way to Ion trying to...
Get out of here.
1445
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:36,280
You don't think it's at Ion?
1446
01:27:36,540 --> 01:27:38,880
No. But sometimes you have to go places.
1447
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,020
Sometimes God takes you places so that
you can go home.
1448
01:27:44,740 --> 01:27:46,000
Yeah, I gotta go
1449
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:55,880
What's
1450
01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:01,060
with the YouTube videos that Mm -hmm.
Was it like my youtube channel that the
1451
01:28:01,060 --> 01:28:06,200
higher -ups like to not give us enough
time or The what sorry like my youtube
1452
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,980
channel was it that like do you like why
they don't give you more time with us
1453
01:28:09,980 --> 01:28:16,960
or we get hundreds request every day and
You know, we're such a tiny, we
1454
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,180
look like a big organization.
1455
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,260
We're like five scientists.
1456
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:26,440
It was surprising that, like, nobody
else wanted to be interviewed.
1457
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,420
Yeah, they're very, very busy people.
1458
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:31,360
And it's not personal.
1459
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:37,220
We have stuff currently that hasn't come
true yet that we're, you know.
1460
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:38,980
Anticipating. I had one hand.
1461
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,160
Die next year.
1462
01:28:42,660 --> 01:28:43,660
Heart attack.
1463
01:28:45,470 --> 01:28:48,670
So how would it help if we had an
answer?
1464
01:28:49,570 --> 01:28:53,810
Would it help, do you think it would
help you cope with the stress of it?
1465
01:28:54,010 --> 01:28:56,830
Because it wouldn't prevent his death if
that was going to happen.
1466
01:28:57,230 --> 01:29:00,190
I don't know, I told you this when my
mom dreamt.
1467
01:29:01,030 --> 01:29:06,950
She saw a death certificate and it was
in a car on a bridge in the 2020s. So
1468
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:08,950
like now we're here and it's just like
I'm deaf.
1469
01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:11,990
Do you guys do sleep studies?
1470
01:29:13,220 --> 01:29:18,040
We are doing one currently on lucid
dreaming that's very exploratory.
1471
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,980
I'll do whatever you guys want me to do.
1472
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:27,060
Well, yeah, this one's just completed
and I'm sorry. Whenever, whenever.
1473
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,840
We'll let you know. Whenever. Sure.
1474
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,000
Because I thought, you know, with you
guys being the premier researchers, that
1475
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:38,840
there'd be something more for me to
solve some of the things that I've dealt
1476
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,840
with in my life.
1477
01:29:42,540 --> 01:29:43,660
It's been haunting me.
1478
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,000
That's what's driven me out here to Ion
since I wanted to talk with somebody who
1479
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,320
knew, you know, what was going on.
1480
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,940
Scared the hell out of me knowing that,
like, you guys are the premier spot and
1481
01:29:55,940 --> 01:29:56,940
you don't know.
1482
01:29:58,940 --> 01:30:00,760
You know, when his dad was going to die.
1483
01:30:01,820 --> 01:30:02,840
He wrote it down.
1484
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,620
He wrote it down. And I knew people that
I didn't.
1485
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,060
Complete strangers to me when they were
going to die.
1486
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:11,480
I don't want to have these experiences
anymore.
1487
01:30:12,140 --> 01:30:14,680
I've had hundreds of experiences that
this film's all about.
1488
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,480
And I just need to find out what the
fuck is going on.
1489
01:30:23,220 --> 01:30:26,800
Well, you might talk to some of my
colleagues that have better answers. I
1490
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,760
I didn't come all this way. I live out
here. It's like $25 ,000.
1491
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,000
It's a lot of money.
1492
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,240
Try to get something.
1493
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,220
And I got my reputation on the line, you
know.
1494
01:30:39,740 --> 01:30:41,760
We're trying to do something real with
this documentary.
1495
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,320
And it's hard when we're doing
experiments.
1496
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,660
Like, I thought we were going to do real
experiments here. But I put the helmet
1497
01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:49,660
on, and there was nothing.
1498
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,280
I told you what we were going to do.
1499
01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:57,220
It's hard because I want people to trust
us. And, like, this is a real struggle.
1500
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,660
And provide, like, some sort of validity
to this space.
1501
01:31:03,380 --> 01:31:06,220
And then we come here, and you were 90
minutes late in the first day.
1502
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:07,800
And you're late today.
1503
01:31:08,420 --> 01:31:11,900
And we try to do experiments, and we
talk for months. Are you serious?
1504
01:31:12,220 --> 01:31:18,000
Yeah. I told you. It hurts. It hurts me.
I put so much in. My supervisor gave me
1505
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,680
three hours today for you, and I.
1506
01:31:21,070 --> 01:31:25,450
because you were motivated, and I
believe in your cause, I give you two
1507
01:31:25,490 --> 01:31:29,790
And, yes, I told you you had personal
emergencies going on. People come to us
1508
01:31:29,790 --> 01:31:33,130
for validity, and that's not what we do.
So that's on you. I'm sorry.
1509
01:31:33,390 --> 01:31:36,850
We don't validate people's experiences.
We try to understand them with our
1510
01:31:36,850 --> 01:31:39,070
scientific tools, and if it's not enough
for you.
1511
01:32:03,559 --> 01:32:05,600
I'm dropping the bomb here.
1512
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:12,980
That happens all the time. I didn't
realize it was in
1513
01:32:12,980 --> 01:32:18,100
that kind of place where they think
scientists can...
1514
01:32:18,620 --> 01:32:23,480
of their life and let them cope with
death and their experiences.
1515
01:32:27,740 --> 01:32:32,980
If it's getting on camera that Michael's
going to die in one year and it
1516
01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:36,800
happens, I mean, that's better proof
than science to me.
1517
01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:40,420
Ugh, hey.
1518
01:32:42,340 --> 01:32:45,280
I'm sorry, but I look like a fucking
idiot out there.
1519
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,520
Hey, you keep looking, man. That's it.
1520
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:50,380
Just keep looking, Jess.
1521
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,100
This was the top.
1522
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:53,660
The answers ain't here. They gotta be
somewhere.
1523
01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:54,938
We're not alone.
1524
01:32:54,940 --> 01:32:56,560
There can't be just two of us in the
world.
1525
01:32:57,060 --> 01:32:58,060
There's people.
1526
01:32:58,300 --> 01:32:59,740
Other people have this too, man.
1527
01:33:00,620 --> 01:33:01,620
Come on, man.
1528
01:33:01,700 --> 01:33:04,540
I love you. I appreciate you coming out
here. I didn't think you'd come. I
1529
01:33:04,540 --> 01:33:05,540
didn't think you'd come out here.
1530
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,160
I didn't think I was either.
1531
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,680
But if you want to go, I understand, you
know.
1532
01:33:12,900 --> 01:33:14,120
Bro, I'm just...
1533
01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:17,360
I'm glad to spend time with you, man.
1534
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:18,720
No, it's been good.
1535
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,200
You got your family.
1536
01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:22,080
This is my journey.
1537
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,580
I appreciate you coming all the way.
That's the answers, bro. That's all we
1538
01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:27,580
need. I know.
1539
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,340
That's it. I'll go in and do whatever I
need to do.
1540
01:33:32,300 --> 01:33:33,300
That's what I've always done.
1541
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:35,940
So I appreciate you, man.
1542
01:33:36,740 --> 01:33:38,360
Your mom's going to be fine, man.
1543
01:33:38,660 --> 01:33:41,020
Don't even think about that. She's like
the best person, bro.
1544
01:33:41,300 --> 01:33:43,220
That's the scariest part.
1545
01:33:45,540 --> 01:33:46,540
That's always how it works.
1546
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:51,860
You already know you can change it,
Jess. You already did.
1547
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,120
I try not to use that one example,
though.
1548
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:01,780
Maybe you're right. I don't know.
1549
01:34:22,570 --> 01:34:23,570
Hi, Jesse.
1550
01:34:24,990 --> 01:34:25,990
Yeah?
1551
01:34:26,430 --> 01:34:27,550
What are you doing here?
1552
01:34:28,630 --> 01:34:30,910
You know, you should throw one of your
LAN parties.
1553
01:34:31,790 --> 01:34:33,010
We don't hang out enough.
1554
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:35,870
We can't hang out.
1555
01:34:36,710 --> 01:34:38,190
You died five years ago.
1556
01:34:39,370 --> 01:34:41,830
Of course we can hang out. We can hang
out right now.
1557
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:43,530
Play some jailbreak.
1558
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:45,030
Do some tree climbing.
1559
01:34:48,170 --> 01:34:51,670
I hadn't seen you in like seven years.
1560
01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:56,530
I'm on a whim. I decided to get food.
And there you were.
1561
01:34:58,130 --> 01:34:59,490
I'm so happy to see you.
1562
01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:02,330
Hoist me up off the ground.
1563
01:35:03,790 --> 01:35:05,610
You're always larger than life, Scott.
1564
01:35:06,910 --> 01:35:11,030
And later that night, you died of an
overdose.
1565
01:35:12,050 --> 01:35:15,090
You always question everything, don't
you, Jesse?
1566
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:18,230
Hey there, yum yum.
1567
01:35:19,190 --> 01:35:22,030
Didn't think your fat uncle could catch
your candy ass.
1568
01:35:22,270 --> 01:35:23,270
Let me stand still.
1569
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,040
Yeah? Well, you keep pushing me with
these damn videos, I'll have a heart
1570
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,040
attack.
1571
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:31,840
I can't be here.
1572
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,440
The hell I can't.
1573
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:38,240
I can be wherever I want to be, asswipe.
You don't understand.
1574
01:35:38,700 --> 01:35:42,040
Hey, we're not as dumb as you make us
out to be.
1575
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:45,860
You're my nephew, Jesse. I'd do anything
for you.
1576
01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:50,800
Oh, Jesus, don't start crying, you
freaking douchebag.
1577
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,760
You know, you almost had me with that
one video where you gave your dad the
1578
01:36:02,340 --> 01:36:06,620
You ought to make a video from when I
tried to come to the house and you were
1579
01:36:06,620 --> 01:36:08,600
all paranoid about getting COVID.
1580
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:11,600
You died of COVID.
1581
01:36:13,780 --> 01:36:14,780
Yeah.
1582
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:20,420
Well, we all got to go sometime, right?
1583
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,880
Hey.
1584
01:36:23,839 --> 01:36:26,500
Don't leave your poor grandmother
waiting too long.
1585
01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:28,140
What?
1586
01:36:39,420 --> 01:36:41,120
I'm sorry to come to the hospital.
1587
01:36:42,340 --> 01:36:43,340
It's okay.
1588
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,320
I didn't know.
1589
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,880
Yeah, I know. The dream.
1590
01:36:48,460 --> 01:36:49,660
A pretty thick one.
1591
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:51,920
You guys are all dead.
1592
01:36:53,580 --> 01:36:54,580
Try not to remember.
1593
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,480
It doesn't always have to be so bad.
1594
01:36:58,460 --> 01:37:00,920
Yeah, well, life hasn't been the same
since you all passed.
1595
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,020
You were my favorite person, Grandma.
1596
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,500
I'm not your grandma.
1597
01:37:08,940 --> 01:37:09,940
But...
1598
01:38:14,890 --> 01:38:18,370
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't defeated
right now. Got my tail between my legs
1599
01:38:18,370 --> 01:38:19,450
coming back to South Jersey.
1600
01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:24,310
I feel like a loser right now. So not
much I can do, but maybe confront some
1601
01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:25,310
the old dreams of the past.
1602
01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:37,950
That's dope, man.
1603
01:38:39,870 --> 01:38:43,210
We got to be quick. We're shooting.
We're shooting right now. We're shooting
1604
01:38:43,210 --> 01:38:44,210
right now.
1605
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:56,659
Hi, Joan.
1606
01:38:56,660 --> 01:38:57,660
Hey, Jess.
1607
01:38:57,860 --> 01:38:58,860
How's it going?
1608
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,100
How you doing? Pretty good. Been a long
time.
1609
01:39:02,380 --> 01:39:03,800
Very long time, yeah.
1610
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:07,360
You doing all right?
1611
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,140
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Good to
see you.
1612
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:11,360
You too.
1613
01:39:11,700 --> 01:39:14,180
It's been, uh, like ten years.
1614
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,040
That long?
1615
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:21,420
Yeah. Been kind of going back through my
past, trying to get different stories.
1616
01:39:21,740 --> 01:39:24,700
Do you ever remember me telling you any
dreams I've had?
1617
01:39:25,180 --> 01:39:26,099
About you?
1618
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,860
Yes, I certainly do remember that.
1619
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,020
What do you remember from it?
1620
01:39:31,540 --> 01:39:34,780
Well, I remember you came in and you
said, I've got to tell you some news.
1621
01:39:34,780 --> 01:39:36,000
of it's good, some of it's bad.
1622
01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:38,300
What do you want to hear first? It must
be bad.
1623
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,800
No, I didn't think it was. No? Really?
No, head -on crash, coming around the
1624
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:43,800
curve, coming to work.
1625
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:46,360
Then me dying.
1626
01:39:47,020 --> 01:39:50,120
And then you told me the good stuff,
that the angel came down, picked me up,
1627
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:51,120
took me upstairs.
1628
01:39:51,300 --> 01:39:53,740
I don't remember that part. So I'm
happy. That's what you told me. You said
1629
01:39:53,740 --> 01:39:54,740
angel came down.
1630
01:39:55,160 --> 01:40:00,260
And was taking me up on that curve. I
always had attention to make sure
1631
01:40:00,260 --> 01:40:01,700
nothing's coming head on to me.
1632
01:40:02,140 --> 01:40:05,940
And which way would I go? And so it was
very easy. You saved my life.
1633
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,560
You really did.
1634
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:11,260
I cried. I didn't know. You know, I
said, boy, it was, you know, it was that
1635
01:40:11,260 --> 01:40:16,380
close. It was really close. And the
trucker never stopped. He just came
1636
01:40:16,380 --> 01:40:17,119
and called.
1637
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,740
I noticed they're still like that. Yeah,
I know. Coming around here. Yeah.
1638
01:40:20,380 --> 01:40:21,400
Why did you listen?
1639
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:22,680
I feel like it would be crazy.
1640
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:25,280
Because I believe in that kind of stuff.
1641
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:27,720
I do.
1642
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,760
I believe things like that happen, that
you get warnings.
1643
01:40:31,540 --> 01:40:33,220
Did I ever tell you about other dreams I
had?
1644
01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:34,660
Joe Barca.
1645
01:40:36,140 --> 01:40:39,500
Yeah. Do you remember what it was? Our
barber in town, yeah.
1646
01:40:40,060 --> 01:40:46,660
Yeah, I had a dream that a man in a suit
just said, your barber's going to die.
1647
01:40:46,780 --> 01:40:51,980
Your barber's going to die. It was
literally the next day that Joe Barca
1648
01:40:51,980 --> 01:40:52,980
heart attack.
1649
01:40:53,819 --> 01:40:56,220
Yeah, but he didn't die.
1650
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,200
From the heart attack?
1651
01:40:59,740 --> 01:41:03,840
I think it was a couple years later. He
lived to 103.
1652
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:06,280
Joe Barca.
1653
01:41:06,780 --> 01:41:10,040
And had COVID, and that's what took him.
He died of COVID?
1654
01:41:10,260 --> 01:41:11,260
Yeah.
1655
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,800
Well, that just throws everything off
for me.
1656
01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:16,060
Well.
1657
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,880
I've been basing all of this, we call it
precognition also.
1658
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,600
Those dreams like you were like my third
or fourth one and that one was the
1659
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,820
first one that kicked it off And I was
like the next day like but you're
1660
01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:35,420
me he didn't die. Oh Now
1661
01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:41,120
I'm gonna look like I'm full The
1662
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:47,540
barbershop still open yeah juniors over
there Joe juniors doing the
1663
01:41:47,540 --> 01:41:48,740
cutting yeah
1664
01:41:50,380 --> 01:41:51,620
I wonder how he would react.
1665
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,000
I know. How did you react?
1666
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,480
Well, I told myself I better watch out
for a red tractor trailer coming because
1667
01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:00,100
I didn't want to meet that one yet. I
wasn't ready.
1668
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,520
But I think with Joe, it might disturb
him, Junior.
1669
01:42:03,940 --> 01:42:06,580
Yeah. Yeah, I've been thinking maybe a
little too much about it.
1670
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,760
Well, so then turn it off.
1671
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,120
Yeah.
1672
01:42:13,420 --> 01:42:14,420
Easier said than done.
1673
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,880
Seems like the more spiritual people
have more of an understanding than the
1674
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,800
scientists. As it relates to that stuff?
1675
01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:25,280
Yeah, the scientists, they have no idea.
1676
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,380
So you think it would be a God thing?
1677
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:28,800
Oh, definitely.
1678
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:31,500
I don't think it's the devil.
1679
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,820
You don't think the man in the suit
who's in my dreams is the devil?
1680
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:41,560
When you go to sleep, think about
something, really good times or
1681
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:42,560
that.
1682
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:47,090
Or keep telling yourself, I can't keep
doing this because it's going to make me
1683
01:42:47,090 --> 01:42:49,450
crazy, and my whole life is going to
lose everything.
1684
01:42:49,870 --> 01:42:53,750
I feel like I already am. Oh, I know. I
know. I feel like I'm losing it a little
1685
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:54,770
bit. You look haunted to me.
1686
01:42:58,430 --> 01:42:59,690
I can see it in your eyes.
1687
01:43:04,910 --> 01:43:07,210
So we're at Evan Higgins' apartment
right now.
1688
01:43:07,610 --> 01:43:10,930
He thinks we're here just to interview
him for the car accident he was in many
1689
01:43:10,930 --> 01:43:14,390
years ago. I don't feel good about sort
of stretching the truth in that regard,
1690
01:43:14,570 --> 01:43:17,950
but I thought there's really no easy way
to say, hey, I dreamt you would be
1691
01:43:17,950 --> 01:43:18,950
paralyzed.
1692
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:27,190
Thanks for sitting down with me, Evan.
1693
01:43:28,150 --> 01:43:31,310
It's probably a little weird because
would you say we were friends in high
1694
01:43:31,310 --> 01:43:32,770
school or how would you?
1695
01:43:33,770 --> 01:43:37,970
I mean, I knew you. I was in a tennis
team with you, and I was in, like, one
1696
01:43:37,970 --> 01:43:38,970
two classes. Were you JV?
1697
01:43:39,290 --> 01:43:42,130
I don't even know if I made JV.
1698
01:43:42,910 --> 01:43:45,630
We were, like, in the branch below that.
Yeah.
1699
01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:49,350
JJV. I didn't play professionally or
anything, like, competition -wise.
1700
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:55,070
I wanted to talk to you because you had
a traumatic brain injury. That was in
1701
01:43:55,070 --> 01:43:56,070
high school, right?
1702
01:43:56,110 --> 01:43:57,570
Yeah, I was a senior in high school.
1703
01:43:57,850 --> 01:43:58,850
I was driving.
1704
01:43:59,690 --> 01:44:05,310
An unfamiliar road, and I got T -boned
when I was crossing the intersection.
1705
01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:08,490
They had to remove both sides of my
skull.
1706
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:13,860
to allow my brain to swell. I was in a
coma for 24, 48 hours, around that time.
1707
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:18,100
And then I had no skull bone for 12
weeks. I had to relearn every single
1708
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:21,060
in my life. One plus one, eat, sleep,
bathroom.
1709
01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:24,420
I was in a wheelchair for several
months.
1710
01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:29,260
So the accident was over 10 years ago,
yet it still affects you today.
1711
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,180
Yeah, so brain injury is going to
basically make me disabled for the rest
1712
01:44:33,180 --> 01:44:36,820
life. Do you feel like that the accident
was always going to happen?
1713
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,520
Um, no, I don't think that really was
the case.
1714
01:44:42,460 --> 01:44:46,100
So... You feel like you had a choice?
1715
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,060
Um, a choice as in what?
1716
01:44:49,820 --> 01:44:51,360
To not get into the accident?
1717
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,760
Or do you feel like it just had to play
itself out?
1718
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:58,300
I mean, I didn't... The stop sign was,
like, moved a little bit, so I wasn't
1719
01:44:58,300 --> 01:45:00,280
able to see it. Brett, do you wish you
could go back?
1720
01:45:00,700 --> 01:45:05,380
So, those kind of questions kind of came
initially when I was, like, in the
1721
01:45:05,380 --> 01:45:06,980
hospital, but...
1722
01:45:08,270 --> 01:45:12,950
I just figured, you know, it happened. I
got to move on. I'm very glad about
1723
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:16,110
where I'm at in life because I'm able to
be very independent.
1724
01:45:16,330 --> 01:45:18,410
I have my own apartment. I work. I
drive.
1725
01:45:19,450 --> 01:45:23,070
Everything's good, I mean, to an extent.
But there are other people, there are
1726
01:45:23,070 --> 01:45:25,750
other parts of the brain whereโ Can I
share something with you?
1727
01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:26,990
Yeah, sure.
1728
01:45:27,950 --> 01:45:28,970
Because I have some regrets.
1729
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,860
That's something I haven't told you
about, like, why I really wanted to come
1730
01:45:40,860 --> 01:45:41,860
talk to you.
1731
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:48,320
I had a dream before it happened.
1732
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:59,920
I was in the gymnasium at school, and I
saw you in the distance, and I noticed
1733
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:05,120
a light fixture in the ceiling, loose.
1734
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,000
And suddenly it just fell.
1735
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:10,980
And you were directly under it.
1736
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:14,980
And it crushed you.
1737
01:46:16,220 --> 01:46:21,740
And I was like, Jesus, I don't think
he's going to make it out of that.
1738
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,280
And so I walked over to your body.
1739
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,680
You were fully crushed and your legs.
1740
01:46:37,770 --> 01:46:38,810
The legs were pinned.
1741
01:46:40,190 --> 01:46:41,830
And I remember they were also flailing.
1742
01:46:42,370 --> 01:46:43,410
And then they were still.
1743
01:46:46,090 --> 01:46:51,830
When I looked at it in a dream, I
thought, Evan's paralyzed.
1744
01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:58,590
And then I would see you walking around
gym every school day.
1745
01:46:59,030 --> 01:47:01,970
And I thought, should I tell him about
this dream?
1746
01:47:02,190 --> 01:47:05,170
Because up until that point, I had other
dreams of people dying and they've come
1747
01:47:05,170 --> 01:47:07,050
true. Other crazy things.
1748
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,120
Bad things happening, and that's what
this film's really about.
1749
01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:13,600
Okay. I regret not telling you one of
those days.
1750
01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:18,120
At least a few weeks, maybe a month,
before the accident happened.
1751
01:47:18,540 --> 01:47:25,340
Then I wondered, well, if I just told
Evan, maybe, as weird as it was, maybe
1752
01:47:25,340 --> 01:47:28,320
something in your brain would click, and
for some reason, you just wouldn't have
1753
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,820
gotten into the accident. Like a
warning, a premonition.
1754
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,060
Um... Um...
1755
01:47:38,830 --> 01:47:45,330
The fact that you're envisioning legs
and stuff too, that's definitely
1756
01:47:45,330 --> 01:47:50,470
very chilling, I guess you can best say.
1757
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:53,970
Have you spoken to a medical
professional about that?
1758
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:55,790
Yeah, this is my therapy.
1759
01:47:56,270 --> 01:48:02,010
Okay. I have no regrets in my life of
what happened, so everything's good. I
1760
01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:02,969
mean, you're fine.
1761
01:48:02,970 --> 01:48:05,050
I'll take it. I can't really...
1762
01:48:05,610 --> 01:48:08,470
Imagine how you're feeling. It's a big
weight on your shoulder that you have to
1763
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:10,370
decide to save someone's life.
1764
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:14,650
Honestly, I would not have known how I
would have reacted if this happened
1765
01:48:14,650 --> 01:48:19,530
months prior. So I can't imagine myself
living in a bubble, especially at 17,
1766
01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:24,410
where... I did not think it would be
this hard.
1767
01:48:24,810 --> 01:48:30,230
These are multiple letters from Joe
Barca himself, even one from us to Joe
1768
01:48:30,230 --> 01:48:31,230
that we never sent.
1769
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,400
This is our most recent letter. Mr.
Jesse, I would like to thank you for the
1770
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,500
fruit and nuts gift package you
presented to me. Thank you, thank you
1771
01:48:39,500 --> 01:48:42,720
bottom of my heart. My wife Marie is
enjoying it. Also, to the utmost.
1772
01:48:43,020 --> 01:48:43,978
Try calling him.
1773
01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:48,100
My, our Lord and Savior, richly blessed
for your thoughtfulness. I am feeling a
1774
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:50,780
little better after my horrible accident
on Willow Grove Road.
1775
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:55,260
State police arrived, EMT. The utility
pole landed on top of my rented car.
1776
01:48:55,620 --> 01:48:59,360
I've been in a lot of pain the last 18
days, not sleeping at all, many.
1777
01:49:00,170 --> 01:49:04,790
It has been very, very difficult, but I
trust God that someday I will be healed.
1778
01:49:05,010 --> 01:49:10,530
I am an old man living in my 75th year
on this earth. I am not well, he's
1779
01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:15,690
underlined. My good man, Jesse, looking
forward to your filming on October 17th
1780
01:49:15,690 --> 01:49:19,190
at my shop along with meeting your film
crew. I think, sir, you will be
1781
01:49:19,190 --> 01:49:21,650
impressed. I hear the TV turn off from
the inside.
1782
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:25,310
Somebody's clearly in there. They gave
me a cell phone number. You can hear it
1783
01:49:25,310 --> 01:49:26,990
ring from inside the house.
1784
01:49:31,210 --> 01:49:35,990
The craziest thing is the day that we
were to go interview Joe Barca is the
1785
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:36,990
that I blacked out.
1786
01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:44,410
I was sick for at least a week and a
half.
1787
01:49:45,770 --> 01:49:50,630
I ended up blacking out and falling in
the bathroom floor. I had a fever of
1788
01:49:50,630 --> 01:49:52,670
103 degrees for four or five nights.
1789
01:49:52,970 --> 01:49:57,250
So I got COVID, and it was given to me
by Michael at the lab in San Francisco.
1790
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,460
I feel like it all could have been
avoided, but of course not, because I
1791
01:50:00,460 --> 01:50:02,120
precogged it like three weeks prior.
1792
01:50:02,460 --> 01:50:04,840
Yeah, I had a dream a few weeks ago or
something.
1793
01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:07,060
You got COVID.
1794
01:50:08,180 --> 01:50:13,020
Found it very odd, like a full circle,
weird synchronicity that Barka blacks
1795
01:50:13,020 --> 01:50:17,320
when we're trying to interview him. And
then the day we finally have him, I
1796
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:18,320
black out.
1797
01:50:19,780 --> 01:50:22,460
For some reason, we're just stuck.
1798
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:25,400
Stuck together in time.
1799
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,500
Hi, Joe. It's Jesse Ridgway.
1800
01:51:26,180 --> 01:51:28,020
I came by the barbershop.
1801
01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:31,500
Wanted to see if you were ready to be
interviewed for our film.
1802
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:36,900
I was over to the house. I left you a
letter. Please give me a call back.
1803
01:51:37,460 --> 01:51:38,460
Thanks. Bye.
1804
01:51:39,380 --> 01:51:45,180
Sometimes I wake at night and watch the
rain fall
1805
01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:47,380
through the streetlight.
1806
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:57,280
You're standing still in my mind, fading
out,
1807
01:51:57,740 --> 01:51:59,700
waving goodbye.
1808
01:52:01,060 --> 01:52:06,500
And I wonder where you are tonight.
1809
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:12,480
If the one you're with was a compromise.
1810
01:52:14,060 --> 01:52:18,740
You're walking light in parallel.
1811
01:52:26,949 --> 01:52:29,850
Hey, Pixie, how many times do we got to
do this?
1812
01:52:30,530 --> 01:52:31,530
What do you mean?
1813
01:52:31,890 --> 01:52:33,970
How about so you don't care?
1814
01:52:34,350 --> 01:52:38,370
Of course I care. I'm sitting here by
myself taking care of everything.
1815
01:52:42,370 --> 01:52:49,070
Sometimes I'm overcome by every choice I
1816
01:52:49,070 --> 01:52:50,330
couldn't outrun.
1817
01:52:54,830 --> 01:52:56,910
The junctions all disappear.
1818
01:52:57,770 --> 01:53:03,530
You can't double back to your summer
years.
1819
01:53:04,170 --> 01:53:09,590
And I wonder where you are tonight.
1820
01:53:10,490 --> 01:53:15,570
If the one you're with was a compromise
1821
01:53:15,570 --> 01:53:19,210
to your walking life.
1822
01:53:28,110 --> 01:53:34,850
And I wonder where you are tonight.
1823
01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:41,090
If what you did was a compromise,
1824
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:47,110
could our walking lives be parallel?
1825
01:53:48,050 --> 01:53:54,110
But we'll never be as just as well,
1826
01:53:54,330 --> 01:53:56,150
just as right.
1827
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:37,880
And I wonder where you are tonight.
1828
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:43,840
If the one you're with was a compromise.
1829
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:50,220
We're walking lives in parallel.
1830
01:54:51,740 --> 01:54:53,800
We'll never meet.
1831
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,940
And it's just as well.
1832
01:55:15,050 --> 01:55:17,850
Thank you.
1833
01:55:35,710 --> 01:55:39,010
Rolling. We just passed Barca. He's way
in the distance.
1834
01:55:39,330 --> 01:55:42,590
Either he turns left to go into 40 or
post office.
1835
01:55:42,970 --> 01:55:45,010
Probably those are the only two options
that make sense.
1836
01:55:45,310 --> 01:55:46,310
No passing.
1837
01:55:46,410 --> 01:55:47,410
Fuck it.
1838
01:55:48,090 --> 01:55:49,090
Barca mode, baby.
1839
01:55:50,170 --> 01:55:52,090
Oh, is that the green car right there?
1840
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:55,330
Yeah. It's leaving the post office. Oh,
and there's Burroughs. And there's
1841
01:55:55,330 --> 01:55:56,330
Burroughs. What the fuck?
1842
01:55:57,790 --> 01:55:58,790
Oh.
1843
01:56:00,750 --> 01:56:01,750
Oh.
1844
01:56:02,530 --> 01:56:03,530
Joe.
1845
01:56:04,130 --> 01:56:05,130
Joe.
1846
01:56:05,980 --> 01:56:06,980
How's it going?
1847
01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:10,700
I want to talk to you.
1848
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:13,100
Oh, he's pulling over.
1849
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,260
Yeah, just stay in the car.
1850
01:56:16,900 --> 01:56:17,900
I'll walk up.
1851
01:56:18,340 --> 01:56:19,640
Hey, Joe. How's it going?
1852
01:56:23,540 --> 01:56:24,540
It's great to see you.
1853
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:25,800
You doing well?
1854
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:27,500
Fair. Fair, fair.
1855
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,500
I don't think I'm interested in doing
this. No?
1856
01:56:30,740 --> 01:56:32,240
I've thought about it and all that.
1857
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:33,760
I'm not interested.
1858
01:56:34,830 --> 01:56:37,690
I don't want to be publicized and all
that.
1859
01:56:37,970 --> 01:56:41,530
Is there anything I could do to... No,
no, not really. I know you're having
1860
01:56:41,530 --> 01:56:45,830
trouble financially with the car
accident and stuff. Maybe is there some
1861
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:47,130
could cut you a check?
1862
01:56:47,450 --> 01:56:48,188
No, sir.
1863
01:56:48,190 --> 01:56:49,230
No, sir. I'm okay.
1864
01:56:49,550 --> 01:56:52,650
Because it seemed like you were down, it
was like a couple weeks ago, in the
1865
01:56:52,650 --> 01:56:55,470
letter. You were excited to meet the
crew and all that.
1866
01:56:55,710 --> 01:56:56,810
It was, but things have changed.
1867
01:56:57,070 --> 01:57:01,450
Things have changed. I just don't have
the vision. I don't have the willpower.
1868
01:57:02,570 --> 01:57:05,190
I just don't want to do it. You put a
lot of work in, man.
1869
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:08,990
Yeah, thank you. You've done a lot for
the community and your family.
1870
01:57:09,290 --> 01:57:14,010
Yeah, thank you. I hate to see you, you
know, just down on yourself, you know?
1871
01:57:14,430 --> 01:57:15,670
I have to go.
1872
01:57:16,010 --> 01:57:16,909
Yeah, yeah.
1873
01:57:16,910 --> 01:57:20,790
Have a good day. Could I share something
with you? Because I wanted to tell you
1874
01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:27,630
this. It was kind of weird for me. I had
a dream one night that this man in the
1875
01:57:27,630 --> 01:57:28,630
suit.
1876
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:33,280
Told me, your barber's going to die. It
was later that night your dad had a
1877
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:33,978
heart attack.
1878
01:57:33,980 --> 01:57:37,920
True, true. Yeah, how about that? That's
something. Yeah, that's right.
1879
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:42,840
But he didn't die from that. No, no, no,
no.
1880
01:57:43,460 --> 01:57:44,860
He had two heart attacks.
1881
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,380
He didn't recover from that. He
recovered.
1882
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:52,100
That's weird, right? The dream with
the... Right, right, right, right.
1883
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:58,260
I've been sitting on that for 15 years,
and I didn't know what to make of that.
1884
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:00,320
Have you ever had dreams?
1885
01:58:01,060 --> 01:58:04,440
Dreams? Yeah, occasionally at times.
Yes, I do. Yes.
1886
01:58:04,820 --> 01:58:06,260
Has anything ever come true?
1887
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,560
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
1888
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:12,560
Any crazy ones?
1889
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:14,520
Yeah, I've had a couple.
1890
01:58:14,740 --> 01:58:16,100
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1891
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:18,640
Super interesting.
1892
01:58:18,820 --> 01:58:23,200
Right. I have to go. Yeah, yeah. God
bless you, Joe. Keep your head up, man.
1893
01:58:23,380 --> 01:58:26,120
Yes, I will. Keep your head up. Thank
you. Bye -bye. Bye. Thank you.
1894
01:58:29,290 --> 01:58:35,710
Yeah, I wish it went a little
differently.
1895
01:58:43,450 --> 01:58:44,550
View doesn't get old.
1896
01:58:46,990 --> 01:58:49,950
If I'm ever going to get a vision, I
would imagine it would be right here.
1897
01:58:51,530 --> 01:58:54,910
I just don't spend enough time stopping
and smelling the roses. I'm always
1898
01:58:54,910 --> 01:58:55,910
moving so fast.
1899
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,140
Half the time I feel like I could just
slow down.
1900
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:03,980
Maybe I'd start to see more.
1901
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:06,940
Definitely would start to appreciate
more.
1902
01:59:11,180 --> 01:59:12,540
Especially if I could turn everything
off.
1903
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,340
Turn all the noise, all the voices in my
head.
1904
01:59:18,900 --> 01:59:22,420
How are you going to ever see into the
future if you can't even fully be
1905
01:59:22,420 --> 01:59:23,420
present?
1906
01:59:23,700 --> 01:59:25,680
I can't find the answers in a lab.
1907
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:30,940
If I could go to a place that looks like
this and try to go lucid and tap in,
1908
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,020
that seems a better option than anything
else.
1909
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:41,020
Staying the night at Serenity Ridge.
1910
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,960
It's like a retreat center, like as
close to the monastery as I can get in
1911
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:48,200
United States. I'm going to spend a
night or two, however long it takes, and
1912
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,740
maybe have some precognitive dreams.
1913
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:55,160
I'm about to talk to this one guy named
Alejandro, who's, I guess it's like
1914
01:59:55,160 --> 02:00:00,480
Tibetan yoga instructor, but he's
actually spent a lot of time with monks,
1915
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:03,600
might not be able to get the real thing.
Or maybe he is one. I really don't
1916
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:04,559
know.
1917
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,840
I'm trying not to be disrespectful. I
just don't know enough about this kind
1918
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:08,840
culture and stuff.
1919
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:09,880
I'm not religious.
1920
02:00:10,460 --> 02:00:14,620
I'm just a dude who's had dreams of
future stuff happening. So, like, this
1921
02:00:14,620 --> 02:00:15,700
very weird for me.
1922
02:00:27,780 --> 02:00:34,140
And as you breathe in and out, allow
that breath to expand your abdomen like
1923
02:00:34,140 --> 02:00:39,220
balloon, breathing in, breathing out,
letting go.
1924
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:47,880
You know, when we talk about dreams, we
are less interested in
1925
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:52,940
the story itself and more interested in
who's dreaming.
1926
02:00:53,849 --> 02:01:00,310
this aspect of dreamlike world, do we
recognize
1927
02:01:00,310 --> 02:01:04,030
that this is dreamlike too?
1928
02:01:04,530 --> 02:01:07,010
You know, this is... This is the dream.
1929
02:01:07,550 --> 02:01:08,790
It's not the dream.
1930
02:01:09,130 --> 02:01:15,810
It's a dream. It's a dream. This
identity that we think we have, it's a
1931
02:01:16,170 --> 02:01:21,170
Has there been stories of the monks
having visions, precognition?
1932
02:01:22,709 --> 02:01:25,690
When you say precognition, what do you
mean?
1933
02:01:25,910 --> 02:01:28,130
Do they ever dream the future?
1934
02:01:29,550 --> 02:01:35,610
Yeah, you know, they don't talk much
about it. I know, I mean, I've heard of
1935
02:01:35,610 --> 02:01:40,170
people having these kind of dreams, not
only monks, I mean, people like you,
1936
02:01:40,270 --> 02:01:41,249
like others.
1937
02:01:41,250 --> 02:01:44,530
But then I've grappled with why am I
being shown these things if I can't do
1938
02:01:44,530 --> 02:01:45,529
something about?
1939
02:01:45,530 --> 02:01:50,570
At least the way I understand in our
tradition, things are not predestined.
1940
02:01:50,830 --> 02:01:51,970
Really? Yeah.
1941
02:01:52,380 --> 02:01:57,700
Things can be aligned to be going in
that direction, but there are things
1942
02:01:57,700 --> 02:01:58,880
you can change, right?
1943
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:04,920
So the philosophy is that there is a
general flow to life. Like there's some
1944
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:10,320
guidance, but there is some free will
within that. You know, the truck is
1945
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:14,820
in that direction, but you can stop it.
Over the last few years, I've tried to
1946
02:02:14,820 --> 02:02:20,760
go lucid in a dream, and I'll see dead
relatives, dead friends.
1947
02:02:21,580 --> 02:02:23,300
I'll ask them things about the future.
1948
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:25,780
You know, what are the lottery numbers
going to be?
1949
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:30,440
And they actually tell you?
1950
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,620
I've got numbers, and some of them have
been pretty close.
1951
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,640
What about asking, I mean, why are you
here?
1952
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:41,940
I can't say I've asked that.
1953
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:47,440
You know, the more you try, the less it
comes. The moment you let go...
1954
02:02:48,819 --> 02:02:52,220
suddenly it comes up. It's pretty hard
to let go when you've got somebody
1955
02:02:52,220 --> 02:02:53,240
haunting you.
1956
02:02:53,700 --> 02:03:00,240
Right. And all these things in my past.
But the moment that you notice that
1957
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:07,060
fear, that kind of confronting it, and
don't stay in the guy.
1958
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:08,800
Come back to you.
1959
02:03:09,020 --> 02:03:10,200
What's happening to you?
1960
02:03:10,730 --> 02:03:15,970
How do you feel? Look in the mirror at
myself. Yeah. You know, you go closer to
1961
02:03:15,970 --> 02:03:19,050
the movie becomes pixels and there's
nothing, right?
1962
02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:22,010
Who's fearful Jesse?
1963
02:03:22,250 --> 02:03:27,070
Is fearful Jesse the same as, you know,
producer Jesse?
1964
02:03:27,390 --> 02:03:30,550
And is the same as liberated Jesse?
1965
02:03:30,850 --> 02:03:35,570
Can fearful Jesse disappear into
liberated Jesse?
1966
02:03:36,050 --> 02:03:37,310
I would love that.
1967
02:03:39,460 --> 02:03:41,120
I've been scared since I was a little
kid.
1968
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:42,440
Yeah.
1969
02:03:42,620 --> 02:03:48,660
I burned my feet across hot tar. I was
in a wheelchair for a very long time.
1970
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:55,580
I used to knock on my dad's door and go
into his bedroom and
1971
02:03:55,580 --> 02:03:59,440
I'd have to hold his hand just to be
able to fall asleep.
1972
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,180
I guess I've always been scared.
1973
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,400
And at that age was not this guy, so it
was something else.
1974
02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:13,210
I was eight years old, and it seems like
every year or so it's something new.
1975
02:04:14,230 --> 02:04:19,710
And this man has been haunting me 15, 16
years now.
1976
02:04:20,350 --> 02:04:26,670
But when you held your dad's hand, that
kind of... Yeah, it brought me back
1977
02:04:26,670 --> 02:04:31,890
down. And I don't know what that is now,
you know? There's so many ways of
1978
02:04:31,890 --> 02:04:36,090
grounding and feeling like, stay here
and now.
1979
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:38,950
What's the need of going to the future?
1980
02:04:39,170 --> 02:04:43,730
When I was in India, that first trip,
they would tell me, dig in many holes,
1981
02:04:43,730 --> 02:04:47,930
then when you find the water, keep on
digging. So that's the hole that I've
1982
02:04:47,930 --> 02:04:48,950
digging for 30 years.
1983
02:04:50,010 --> 02:04:51,450
Yeah, see where your water is.
1984
02:04:52,210 --> 02:04:56,750
Yeah, I want to keep digging deeper into
this world, this dream world. Yeah.
1985
02:04:57,850 --> 02:04:59,310
But ask the right questions.
1986
02:05:00,690 --> 02:05:03,030
Ask the right questions. I think that's
important.
1987
02:05:03,330 --> 02:05:04,330
I will.
1988
02:06:01,230 --> 02:06:02,230
Not that scary.
1989
02:06:05,910 --> 02:06:07,850
I've seen a lot scarier in my dreams.
1990
02:06:09,310 --> 02:06:10,430
I guess while you're there,
1991
02:06:11,170 --> 02:06:14,230
what are the lottery numbers going to be
tomorrow?
1992
02:06:17,190 --> 02:06:18,250
It's going to be a market crash?
1993
02:06:19,570 --> 02:06:21,090
You're going to let me know next time?
1994
02:06:23,210 --> 02:06:24,390
How about the pandemic?
1995
02:06:36,620 --> 02:06:37,660
I was just a kid.
1996
02:06:40,020 --> 02:06:43,160
To tell me somebody's going to die and I
can't stop it?
1997
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:47,200
What is that?
1998
02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:52,540
What am I supposed to do with that?
1999
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:59,020
They're staring at me, haunting me my
whole life.
2000
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:07,740
When will my parents die?
2001
02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:11,080
Please tell me that.
2002
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:22,000
I don't care.
2003
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:27,220
I don't care anymore.
2004
02:07:44,170 --> 02:07:47,130
What else do you want to know about the
future?
2005
02:07:48,770 --> 02:07:49,770
Nothing.
2006
02:07:52,130 --> 02:07:53,130
Liar!
2007
02:07:57,270 --> 02:07:58,610
I just want to...
2008
02:08:36,020 --> 02:08:40,100
I've dreamt of making a movie my whole
life. It's great that this dream's
2009
02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:42,640
true, even though I wish I had the
smoking gun.
2010
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:44,920
Here's how it works on a silver platter.
2011
02:08:45,340 --> 02:08:46,340
I'm not crazy.
2012
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:47,760
You believe me now?
2013
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:52,920
Having to relive all your worst
nightmares and recreate them for this
2014
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:54,780
been pretty miserable, actually.
2015
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,920
I wanted the viewer to hear my
experiences and be like, oh, wow, you
2016
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,100
had stuff similar to that, and I really
wanted to have something by the end of
2017
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:08,360
Hannum. A lot of this was to convince
myself that either I am quite crazy and
2018
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:13,000
there's nothing here and it's
coincidental, or when I watch everything
2019
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:14,880
like, your partner's going to die.
2020
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:16,360
Oh, shit.
2021
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:20,740
I don't know where I ultimately land in
the battle of free will versus fate, but
2022
02:09:20,740 --> 02:09:23,840
I definitely feel a lot better about
either. It's more important that people
2023
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,100
just feel heard in this realm. We at
least got to start with that.
2024
02:09:27,390 --> 02:09:31,050
This whole time I've been trying to
search and go on this journey for
2025
02:09:31,050 --> 02:09:36,470
about dreams and physical reality when
the answers have been in my dreams. So
2026
02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:39,510
I'm going to sleep.
2027
02:09:39,850 --> 02:09:41,610
I'm going to write it down every night.
2028
02:09:42,090 --> 02:09:44,150
Just completely clear it all.
2029
02:09:44,690 --> 02:09:45,750
Remove the noise.
2030
02:09:46,610 --> 02:09:51,090
Tens of thousands of years of dreaming
and this is all we have?
2031
02:09:51,670 --> 02:09:53,170
We have a lot of work to do.
2032
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:57,440
It's just really exciting to me knowing
that there's actually some real magic
2033
02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:58,640
out there in this world.
2034
02:09:59,340 --> 02:10:01,320
There's something that we've yet to
discover.
2035
02:10:02,220 --> 02:10:09,100
So I'll be experimenting in the dream
world like defamed astronauts in space.
2036
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:11,860
Except I'll be going deep within.
2037
02:10:12,900 --> 02:10:15,160
Maybe there'll come a time where we
value that more.
2038
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:28,160
The real hook of it is, though, is the
feeling.
2039
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,000
It's not the man in the suit.
2040
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:37,580
It's not what he says. It's not what he
looks like.
2041
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:42,800
It's the feeling I get when he's there.
2042
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:48,420
The feeling you get when you hear a
story of Joe Barca.
2043
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:52,240
It's the feeling that I had when I woke
up that morning.
2044
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,880
That's what we're not accounting for in
science.
2045
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,480
That is the key.
2046
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,960
The thing you don't see is what's
inside.
2047
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:17,720
That's the tether to all these
precognitive experiences.
2048
02:11:25,930 --> 02:11:26,930
Has to trigger emotion.
2049
02:11:30,930 --> 02:11:32,110
That's one thing I know for sure.
2050
02:12:01,580 --> 02:12:02,660
You're not supposed to be out here!
2051
02:14:24,810 --> 02:14:28,310
I had a dream that you died.
2052
02:14:30,190 --> 02:14:36,250
We're not the closest, but you're a
friend of mine. I woke up and realized
2053
02:14:36,250 --> 02:14:42,550
it was my subconscious showing me what
it would be like
2054
02:14:42,550 --> 02:14:48,910
if this situation gets any more out of
hand. All of my sort of friends will be
2055
02:14:48,910 --> 02:14:50,850
like, whoa, I kind of knew that guy.
2056
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:57,420
So I keep fighting instead. Against this
avalanche, I feel like a lava lamp. The
2057
02:14:57,420 --> 02:15:00,120
way that I've been totally fucked by
time.
2058
02:15:01,220 --> 02:15:03,740
I had a dream that you died.
2059
02:15:05,580 --> 02:15:08,520
Somehow made it about me.
2060
02:15:09,580 --> 02:15:12,100
I had a dream that you died.
2061
02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:16,940
Somehow made it about me.
2062
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:20,960
And I had a dream that...
2063
02:15:25,450 --> 02:15:32,450
Jump out of the water Standing on the
dock It took me back to Omaha For no
2064
02:15:32,450 --> 02:15:38,370
reason other than the happiness I felt
that so often seems lost And then I got
2065
02:15:38,370 --> 02:15:44,170
to thinking How recently a lot I've
pondered suicide But I could never do
2066
02:15:44,170 --> 02:15:50,870
to my mom So I keep fighting each day
Against this male storm I feel like a
2067
02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:54,530
pest The way my hair looks dumb And my
heart is made of stone
2068
02:16:11,980 --> 02:16:14,560
I had a dream that you died.
2069
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:16,740
I had a dream that you died.
2070
02:16:16,980 --> 02:16:18,820
I had a dream that you died.
2071
02:16:20,660 --> 02:16:25,040
Somehow they did about me. I had a dream
that you died.
2072
02:16:29,070 --> 02:16:33,370
I had a dream that you died.
2073
02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:39,510
We're not the closest, but you're a
friend of mine.
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