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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,630 --> 00:00:20,630 It's crashing. 2 00:01:38,290 --> 00:01:39,990 That's the night I almost lost everything. 3 00:01:41,610 --> 00:01:44,270 Price actually went past my liquidation price. 4 00:01:44,650 --> 00:01:47,390 Every dollar that I had ever worked for, gone. 5 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:51,070 Of course, in hindsight, you know, I just held on to that. It'd be half a 6 00:01:51,070 --> 00:01:52,070 billion dollars. 7 00:01:54,390 --> 00:01:58,450 It's so ridiculous that I can't process it, but this movie has nothing to do 8 00:01:58,450 --> 00:01:59,450 with any of it. 9 00:02:00,470 --> 00:02:02,710 The universe tried to warn me. 10 00:02:03,330 --> 00:02:04,790 Like, he tried to warn me. 11 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:07,430 He tried to warn you. 12 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,760 The man of my dreams. 13 00:02:16,460 --> 00:02:20,480 He's a shapeshifter. He can assume the role of a dead loved one. He can appear 14 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,400 as animals, old friends. He's just every single person in your dream. 15 00:02:28,180 --> 00:02:29,660 That's not the first time I met him either. 16 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,800 I remember I was 15 years old and all I saw was a bright light. 17 00:03:13,079 --> 00:03:14,200 Yo, you good, man? 18 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Huh? You good, man? 19 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:18,360 Oh, uh, yeah, I'm good. 20 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,720 I had, like, the weirdest dream last night. No way. I dreamt last night, too. 21 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,120 It's crazy. 22 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Well, you gonna tell it to the balder? 23 00:03:29,420 --> 00:03:31,920 This man in a suit's my barber was gonna die. 24 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,060 Your barber? Wait, who even has a barber anymore? No, I know. I think he meant 25 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:36,959 this guy, Joe. 26 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,160 Barca? Joe Barca. Joe Baca. 27 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,760 Come down here, two of you. You don't got to eat the man's hair like that. Can 28 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,480 you imagine if something really does happen to him? 29 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,660 Well, whatever you do, just don't dream about me. 30 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,460 I at least want to get laid before I die. 31 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Amen, brother. 32 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:01,280 If I did, though, you know, dream about one of you guys dying or whatever, would 33 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,280 you want to know? 34 00:04:03,420 --> 00:04:05,880 No, probably not. 35 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Keep them under yourself. 36 00:04:15,340 --> 00:04:18,140 Sorry, I pulled all the olives out of your macaroni salad again, huh? 37 00:04:19,579 --> 00:04:21,399 It's the only vegetable in the whole plate. 38 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Corn's a vegetable. 39 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,180 It's a starch, Mom. 40 00:04:26,060 --> 00:04:27,840 That's a vegetable. That's a vegetable, yeah. 41 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:31,220 Right. And olives aren't a vegetable. 42 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:34,560 Olives aren't a vegetable? Are they? 43 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:37,100 Yeah, they're... What is this, pick on mom night? 44 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:39,720 All right, let's get back to eating. She's not picked the chicken night. 45 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Goodness. You don't like the chicken? 46 00:04:44,020 --> 00:04:45,420 Mom. You've always liked chicken. 47 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,200 I mean, I like the... I like chicken. I have to eat chicken every night, so... 48 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Of course I like chicken. You don't eat chicken every night. Okay, Mom. 49 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,620 What do you think? You don't have anything nice to say. 50 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,240 You're not supposed to say anything at all. That's what my mom always said. 51 00:05:02,580 --> 00:05:04,300 Is that what your mom always said? 52 00:05:06,590 --> 00:05:07,590 That's enough. 53 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:13,970 Jesse, you're awful quiet. You okay? 54 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:19,890 I had a dream Joe Barca died. 55 00:05:21,730 --> 00:05:22,730 Old Joe? 56 00:05:22,930 --> 00:05:23,930 Yeah. 57 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:26,650 How'd he die? 58 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:28,750 I don't know. 59 00:05:29,290 --> 00:05:30,810 A man in a suit told me. 60 00:05:31,630 --> 00:05:32,750 A man in a suit? 61 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:34,450 What did he look like? 62 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:43,580 I don't know, he had dark hair and pitch black eyes and he was taller and 63 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:49,860 he told me that he was going to die and I woke up crying. 64 00:05:52,540 --> 00:05:56,000 Can you not be a jerk for two seconds, please? 65 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:57,300 Oh, 66 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,220 sorry, I don't dream about power rangers every day like you. 67 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,920 Did he teabag you? 68 00:06:01,660 --> 00:06:02,660 Leave your father alone. 69 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,200 So when's the last time you even seen him? 70 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,640 I don't know, it's been years. 71 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:08,310 That's why it's so weird. 72 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:09,870 Oh, hi, Ella. 73 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:13,350 Ella, back away from the table. Okay. 74 00:06:14,630 --> 00:06:16,290 Ready? All right. 75 00:06:17,490 --> 00:06:18,490 Take it nice. 76 00:06:19,210 --> 00:06:20,590 Yeah, take it nice. 77 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:23,250 Take it nice. 78 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:24,470 Ooh. 79 00:06:24,930 --> 00:06:25,930 Tea bag. 80 00:06:28,450 --> 00:06:29,790 Nah, you know you like it. 81 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:32,090 Did I tell you guys about the nuggets that I took the other day? 82 00:06:32,630 --> 00:06:33,630 Oh, my God. 83 00:06:34,270 --> 00:06:36,930 It's like the juggernaut took that shit. I'm telling you. No, dude. 84 00:06:37,850 --> 00:06:40,730 You know you would have looked at it. You know you would have looked at it. 85 00:06:40,730 --> 00:06:41,529 right, let's go. 86 00:06:41,530 --> 00:06:42,530 Let's go. 87 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:45,570 I am not losing my level 36. I'm telling you that right now. 88 00:06:46,610 --> 00:06:47,610 How'd you know? 89 00:06:49,090 --> 00:06:50,090 Know what? 90 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:52,550 I just got off the phone with Pop -Pop. 91 00:06:53,750 --> 00:06:55,410 He said Jude Barger had a heart attack. 92 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Dreaming the future. 93 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:20,660 Premonitions. 94 00:07:21,140 --> 00:07:22,140 Visions. 95 00:07:23,980 --> 00:07:24,980 Precognition. 96 00:07:31,210 --> 00:07:35,030 I thought my experience with Joe Barca was just going to be a one -off 97 00:07:35,030 --> 00:07:38,010 occurrence that sounds like something completely make -believe. 98 00:07:38,690 --> 00:07:42,350 This is a very real thing that happened to me when I was 15 years old. 99 00:07:48,210 --> 00:07:51,770 What I thought was just a shot in the dark. 100 00:07:52,910 --> 00:07:54,330 Just a lucky guess. 101 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:58,870 It just kept happening. 102 00:08:02,830 --> 00:08:03,970 It just kept happening. 103 00:08:19,370 --> 00:08:21,030 I did not sleep well last night. 104 00:08:21,570 --> 00:08:27,050 This has kind of been part of the course, but... I used to. 105 00:08:27,850 --> 00:08:28,970 I used to sleep great. 106 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:31,930 I would get 10, 12 hours most nights. 107 00:08:32,510 --> 00:08:37,130 especially when i was a kid i would be uh flying around 108 00:08:37,130 --> 00:08:43,950 i don't know i'm not like 109 00:08:43,950 --> 00:08:50,850 i'm not even like flap no bird flap wings i'm i'm just soaring just with my 110 00:08:50,850 --> 00:08:53,550 like like kind of like levitating just 111 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,460 It's just like when you're a kid, I feel like all the dreams would be so 112 00:08:58,460 --> 00:09:02,460 fantastical. It's like it didn't matter that it didn't make sense. It was like 113 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:05,640 you were just playing. It felt relaxing and peaceful. 114 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,520 It was all game. 115 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,960 Your family was still around, all the ones that you knew, and even people that 116 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,300 you didn't know. Everyone was great. 117 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:15,600 This was all exciting. 118 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,320 You didn't have enough, I guess, bad experiences to sift into your life that 119 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,720 kind of toxify it all. 120 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,480 I'll lay in bed for... 121 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:26,430 Hours before I even fall asleep. 122 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:28,150 Who am I going to dream about tonight? 123 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:31,690 Because what's going to happen to that person in my dream, and are they going 124 00:09:31,690 --> 00:09:32,770 not be there when I wake up? 125 00:09:36,390 --> 00:09:41,010 Whose death am I going to envision tonight that I'm going to not know 126 00:09:41,010 --> 00:09:44,290 should tell them about in real life or just keep to myself? 127 00:09:49,370 --> 00:09:52,410 I worked at a plumbing shop for a couple years, just kind of. 128 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,260 doing inventory and, you know, serving customers. 129 00:09:55,820 --> 00:09:59,360 There was an old woman that worked at the shop and would hang out in the 130 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:04,120 We got really close in the plumbing shop. However, I had a dream. I had some 131 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:10,160 third -party perspective on the highway that wraps around Boros Plumbing. The 132 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,820 dream consisted of Joan in her car trying to just turn into the plumbing 133 00:10:16,860 --> 00:10:18,920 Makes that turn pretty much every workday. 134 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:25,130 Except this day in the dream, a red tractor trailer comes barreling down the 135 00:10:25,130 --> 00:10:27,910 highway and crashes into her car, killing her. 136 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:32,770 Joan Voros, red tractor trailer, dead. 137 00:10:33,010 --> 00:10:38,530 The next day at work, I said, yeah, I saw you get crushed by a red tractor 138 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:40,070 trailer. She's like, oh, that's lovely. 139 00:10:40,930 --> 00:10:44,950 Everything was fine for a few weeks until I got a text message from Joan 140 00:10:44,950 --> 00:10:48,450 saying I just swerved off the road. 141 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:52,930 narrowly avoiding a red tractor trailer. 142 00:10:55,010 --> 00:10:57,190 She said, I'm really shaken up right now. 143 00:10:59,770 --> 00:11:04,990 She said, had you not warned me, I don't think I would have reacted quick 144 00:11:04,990 --> 00:11:05,990 enough. 145 00:11:07,150 --> 00:11:08,650 I don't know what to make of that. 146 00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:10,410 Lucky guess. 147 00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:15,110 Joan was fine and we talked about it the next day and I'm sure we made thick 148 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:16,250 jokes about it and laughed. 149 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,060 That's what humans do when they can't confront this sickening reality of 150 00:11:21,060 --> 00:11:23,280 possibility, something they might not understand. 151 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,320 Let's joke about it and forget it and act like it never happened. 152 00:11:29,740 --> 00:11:33,500 Hey there, Jays. It's your old pal McJarren. It's here. That's how I've 153 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:39,100 close to 2 ,000 videos because I am a YouTuber making a movie. 154 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,480 That's right. Yeah, it's a YouTube movie. What's this guy doing? 155 00:11:42,990 --> 00:11:46,950 My name is Jesse Ridgway, also known as McJuggerNuggets, more notoriously 156 00:11:46,950 --> 00:11:51,090 online. So I've been making YouTube videos since I was 14 years old, so I've 157 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:53,530 been at this thing for close to 17 years now. 158 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:58,870 And we've accumulated over 2 billion views just on YouTube alone, and this 159 00:11:58,870 --> 00:12:00,910 been my full -time career for the last decade. 160 00:12:01,150 --> 00:12:05,170 I'm that kid in his underwear that's screaming at his dad as he ran over his 161 00:12:05,170 --> 00:12:06,170 video games with a lawnmower. 162 00:12:06,939 --> 00:12:11,000 Yeah, the kid that flipped the Thanksgiving tables over and gets a 163 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 at him by his father. 164 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Me and my dad. Psycho dad. Psycho kid. 165 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,660 Shot my dad with a gun. You made me this way! 166 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:24,100 Flood to Switzerland. Anyone over the age of 40 probably has no idea what I'm 167 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:24,999 talking about. 168 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,940 Daddy, chill. 169 00:12:28,220 --> 00:12:29,960 What the hell is even that? 170 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,660 We'll do choreographs done, kind of just some loose improv with these ridiculous 171 00:12:35,660 --> 00:12:39,980 scenarios, basically to clickbait and drive attention to a narrative that I'm 172 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:43,500 trying to construe. So it was a little bit of a boy who cried wolf scenario 173 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:47,820 where I pretended that this whole fake life was real, the internet believed it. 174 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,120 We're sorry about that. 175 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,960 Guys, we are working hard building up the little campsite area. 176 00:12:57,380 --> 00:12:59,400 This is probably the hardest I've ever worked in my life. 177 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Feast your eyes upon my pride, my joy. 178 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Welcome to Eagles Landing. 179 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,680 You guys got to check this place out. It's insane. 180 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:14,360 That Eagles Landing series brought in around 100 million views that month. 181 00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:19,640 I was gaining like 10 ,000 subscribers a day and was really what, like... 182 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:24,100 blew up my channel a lot of a lot of fans found me through that anyway guys 183 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:27,980 some likes on this video and say f you to your dad and subscribe you want to 184 00:13:27,980 --> 00:13:33,500 f you to my dad all right jays i love you all death and don't forget to keep 185 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:39,060 rigid i didn't realize that i had dreamt that two years prior 186 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:45,460 okay so my brother had a dream 187 00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:50,070 that he was in an alternate reality in a tent filming himself. 188 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:54,470 The video was an alternate reality. It was not real life. That's what I meant 189 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:55,470 alternate reality. 190 00:13:56,290 --> 00:13:58,870 In the dream right now. Do you want me to respond to you? Do you want me to 191 00:13:58,870 --> 00:13:59,870 respond to the camera? 192 00:14:01,770 --> 00:14:04,490 What are you trying to insinuate? I'm just trying to ask you genuine questions 193 00:14:04,490 --> 00:14:05,039 right now. 194 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,580 I guess. I don't know. You have really not much to wear with because you don't. 195 00:14:08,580 --> 00:14:10,320 You're not even open to the idea. How many more? 196 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,540 You don't remember Joe Barga. I'm sorry, but when you present with me like, oh, 197 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,440 I had this dream of me being in a tent. We camped a lot. 198 00:14:17,820 --> 00:14:18,820 Not in a tent. 199 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,300 I don't think you guys were ever in a tent, but that could have resonated in 200 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:29,380 your mind. So a lot of different ideas that he could have just combined into a 201 00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:32,800 dream, woken up, wrote it down, and then. 202 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,900 Years down the road, he made it happen in the form of video. 203 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,240 So you're saying it was a lucky hit? 204 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,300 That my dream matched? 205 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,560 It was a lucky match? 206 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,560 I think that the dream matching the video was a coincidence. 207 00:14:48,380 --> 00:14:50,500 What if I told you Eagle's Landing wasn't my idea? 208 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,660 I had randomly met through a mutual friend, the financial guy. 209 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,939 You know what would be funny? 210 00:14:58,940 --> 00:15:01,980 What if you were kicked out of your house and you were living in a tent 211 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:02,980 games from there? 212 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:04,390 I said, yeah, that's a really good idea. 213 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:08,370 So I can't even argue against it now. I can't say it was a self -fulfilling 214 00:15:08,370 --> 00:15:10,510 prophecy. It came from an outside source. 215 00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:16,310 So the only conclusion I could come to is that it was always going to happen. 216 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:23,210 I can't say one way or the other for sure whether it was something that was 217 00:15:23,210 --> 00:15:29,570 meant to be, but it did seem like Jesse did have a flow, 218 00:15:29,830 --> 00:15:31,410 like he did know. 219 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:34,830 ahead of time. It didn't seem like that. 220 00:15:35,150 --> 00:15:39,790 Something was grabbing my chest and just pulling me and pulling me along. 221 00:15:40,050 --> 00:15:42,490 It was just dragging me through all these experiences. 222 00:15:43,170 --> 00:15:46,490 I was a freshman in high school, very first period. 223 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:50,890 And when everybody's half asleep, the teacher's joining on, and you're really 224 00:15:50,890 --> 00:15:52,570 just trying to just stay awake. 225 00:15:53,150 --> 00:15:57,170 And in that state, you're just getting off and you hear voices, you see things. 226 00:15:57,370 --> 00:16:00,110 And what I would do is I would just open up a notebook. 227 00:16:01,580 --> 00:16:04,780 I didn't realize what I was doing at the time, but apparently this is kind of 228 00:16:04,780 --> 00:16:09,420 known as free writing, where you just go loose and you let your hand just write 229 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:13,000 slowly, whatever just comes to mind, as ridiculous as it may sound. 230 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,820 I tried to direct it a little bit. I wanted to try to make a series. I've 231 00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:23,380 been obsessed with television series and dramatic work. 232 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,900 And so I was writing something to do for my YouTube channel. 233 00:16:29,890 --> 00:16:35,830 Jesse made Rule 19, which is one of my favorites, with a whole bunch of clones, 234 00:16:36,010 --> 00:16:38,530 and they all had different personalities. 235 00:16:39,550 --> 00:16:43,710 What Rule 19 meant, it was a virus that was affecting the clones. 236 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:50,450 Rule 19, COVID -19, virus, I mean... Oh, shoot, yeah. 237 00:16:52,730 --> 00:16:54,750 I did a series called My Virtual Escape. 238 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,500 In that virtual reality series, my Uncle Chris in real life was like playing a 239 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:02,720 character in a series. And me and him developed a really close relationship 240 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,000 through all the YouTube videos. 241 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:06,520 He was played by my older brother. 242 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,720 My Uncle Chris is my dad's older brother. 243 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:13,920 When Uncle Chris' character died in my virtual escape, he started bleeding from 244 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,920 the nose. 245 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:19,500 Which is how all the clones died from Rule 19, a .k .a. COVID -19. 246 00:17:20,060 --> 00:17:24,040 The crazy thing is, is when Uncle Chris' character gets killed off in the 247 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,440 simulation, he is stabbed against an oak tree. 248 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,700 Red oak. And he's stabbed by you playing as the servant, a .k .a. his boss. So 249 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:40,000 just to sum it up, Uncle Chris' boss killed him. 250 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:44,900 A little over two years ago, my Uncle Chris was at work. 251 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:49,080 His boss came in and gave him COVID -19. 252 00:17:49,770 --> 00:17:56,770 My uncle died within a week of that. The company my uncle works for is called 253 00:17:56,770 --> 00:17:57,770 Red Oak. 254 00:17:59,770 --> 00:18:01,450 The irony of that... 255 00:18:01,450 --> 00:18:09,430 That'll 256 00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:10,510 resonate for a day or two. 257 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:14,390 Didn't know all that. 258 00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:21,190 then yes, his boss did kill him in real life. 259 00:18:23,910 --> 00:18:28,170 Almost as if subconsciously, when I write these theories, these ideas that 260 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:32,230 of come from nowhere, is actually coming from somewhere, that somewhere being 261 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:33,230 the future. 262 00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:37,230 A bit too many synchronicities there. 263 00:18:37,490 --> 00:18:40,590 Too many things line up. It's pretty ridiculous. 264 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:43,970 It is pretty ridiculous now that you brought it to my attention. 265 00:18:49,550 --> 00:18:51,490 Then you start thinking a little bit more about it. 266 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:55,390 Like, even the dreams. 267 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:01,570 When I was younger, it seemed like, huh, that's no big deal. 268 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:06,930 I question things now more as I'm older. 269 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:15,430 Ever since my dad died, I don't want to know more. 270 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:22,470 I want it to be magical. 271 00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:29,190 What I like to think is magic is just science that isn't understood yet. 272 00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:35,670 I remember Jesse having a dream about one of his school teachers having 273 00:19:36,210 --> 00:19:38,210 And guess what? 274 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:40,990 It's a ninth grade history teacher, Mr. Harris. 275 00:19:41,570 --> 00:19:46,230 He's a very sweet guy, very smart, very caring towards his students. He's very 276 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:47,230 rare in a teacher. 277 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:49,630 Well, I dreamt about Mr. Harris. 278 00:20:23,850 --> 00:20:24,850 That was it. 279 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:29,570 However, I got this thinking feeling as he walked away and his back was a little 280 00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:32,510 hunched. There's something wrong with him too. 281 00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:36,210 This one would take years to play out. 282 00:20:36,730 --> 00:20:38,650 Started with his wife getting cancer. 283 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:40,190 She died. 284 00:20:41,810 --> 00:20:43,510 As well as Mr. Harris died too. 285 00:20:45,210 --> 00:20:46,690 It's a very sad story. 286 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:48,870 And I don't want it to be sad. 287 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:53,090 Forecasting somebody's demise, that's almost godlike. 288 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:55,820 I don't know if people are supposed to have that kind of power. 289 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,060 There's certain things that just should be left untouched. 290 00:21:00,940 --> 00:21:05,740 I mean, I did have a dream about seeing my own death certificate. 291 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,180 I don't remember. 292 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:19,860 I do remember that there was an interceptor, but I don't... It did a 293 00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:20,860 bit, but... 294 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,300 It could have been somebody else's death. 295 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:26,620 It could have been my mother's. 296 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:29,980 She passed away in 2021. 297 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:34,640 Interceptor could have been COVID intercepted her. 298 00:21:35,860 --> 00:21:40,160 It's like looking at a piece of art while somebody that writes it or draws 299 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,380 paints it out or any other form of... 300 00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:46,910 Artistic endeavor, it could mean something to them, but if it's presented 301 00:21:46,910 --> 00:21:50,530 way that anybody can walk away with a different interpretation, that's how I 302 00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:51,530 kind of view dreams. 303 00:21:51,550 --> 00:21:54,730 I had a very short dream about my old friend Gina from college. 304 00:21:57,650 --> 00:22:02,810 And I wake up, and I check that Gina just posted a recent photo. 305 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,630 Looking exactly like a zombie. 306 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,560 I had this dream this one night. I was working on this movie theater being 307 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,560 in my basement. 308 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:21,060 It's my old friend Paul from high school that I hadn't seen in, like, ten years. 309 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,300 And he's wearing, like, full construction gear like he's ready to 310 00:22:25,940 --> 00:22:26,940 That's the dream. 311 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,480 I upload, like, a two-, three -year -old video to Facebook of the movie theater 312 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,580 construction, and at that same exact time, I check my inbox. 313 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,160 Guess who messaged me? 314 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Paul, first message in 10 years, and you know what he says? Hey, man, really 315 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,160 loving these videos on Facebook. 316 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,760 I told him, thanks, man. I'm glad you liked the vids. 317 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,139 Drop a like. 318 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:53,980 Subscribe. So just now I met in 2019 on a dating app. 319 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:00,340 One of our first conversations, he did mention how he already visioned me 320 00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:05,720 in his home walking around the corner, which was kind of pretty bizarre, 321 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,280 especially when you're... 322 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:11,850 first talking to somebody that you don't even know if you're interested in yet. 323 00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:13,150 It's funny, you always hear that, too. 324 00:23:13,410 --> 00:23:18,450 Oh, I knew the first day, and you're like, yeah, okay, as if, you know, 325 00:23:18,450 --> 00:23:19,450 kind of rewriting history. 326 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:24,950 I don't think it was a tactic. I think what he was saying was true. I felt that 327 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:27,650 connection with him from our first conversation. 328 00:23:27,890 --> 00:23:33,770 Yeah, I just went with it. I just wasn't sure if it actually is a real thing to 329 00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:35,550 just dream the future or... 330 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,120 see these future visions. 331 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:42,000 They kept happening and happening and they were like turning out to be true. 332 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,760 It finally did take a turn and I started to experience them on my own. 333 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,480 So there was this one instance where my dog Mason got into a trash can and he 334 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,160 ate probably a whole pack's worth of used makeup wipes. 335 00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:03,400 So I took Mason to Jesse's house before I went to the animal hospital. I let 336 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,600 Mason roam the house. 337 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,280 He had this sense to him that he was very familiar with the house. He went 338 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,900 straight to the living room and jumped up on the couch and laid on the arm of 339 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,520 the chair as if he's been there before. 340 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:24,400 When that was his first time ever being there, I did have this weird moment hit 341 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,740 me. I guess I would call it a deja vu. 342 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:28,480 I've seen this before. 343 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:33,280 I've felt this feeling before. I've seen Mason run across the kitchen. 344 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Mason goes in that chair every single day and sits in that same spot. 345 00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:43,080 Have you ever been half asleep and you hear a sound? Then you wake up and then 346 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,940 that sound happens? Because that sounds exactly like what this is. 347 00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:50,590 evolution in our species where like we hear the bush rustling and we're trying 348 00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:54,210 to guess what kind of predator is in the bush like is it going to kill me should 349 00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:58,250 i be scared should i be excited starts to activate that fight or flight 350 00:24:58,250 --> 00:25:03,710 maybe that predictive ability that foresight has extended itself a bit 351 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:08,250 before somebody gets a call from a loved one saying that so -and -so died all of 352 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:11,870 a sudden i just feel off today Like something's wrong. I have a bad feeling. 353 00:25:12,290 --> 00:25:16,150 Yeah, so this past summer I had a dream where these two boys showed up to the 354 00:25:16,150 --> 00:25:18,670 house. They were trespassing on the property. 355 00:25:19,210 --> 00:25:23,910 They showed up with fishing poles wanting to go fish at the lake that's in 356 00:25:23,910 --> 00:25:24,910 backyard. 357 00:25:35,650 --> 00:25:38,670 So the next morning I wake up, real life. 358 00:25:39,130 --> 00:25:43,270 I went out on the deck, and I hear voices. 359 00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:51,190 They looked exactly like the kids in my dream. I mean, I think even down to the 360 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:54,670 color of their shirt, what they were wearing, everything. 361 00:25:55,150 --> 00:26:00,230 Yeah, at this point, I believe it's real because I now have my own experiences. 362 00:26:00,650 --> 00:26:01,770 I'm all in now. 363 00:26:02,130 --> 00:26:06,550 This is real. This happens because that was my third. I would question whether 364 00:26:06,550 --> 00:26:07,550 or not the story is true. 365 00:26:08,010 --> 00:26:11,510 So she could say that, but do I believe her? 366 00:26:11,790 --> 00:26:13,710 Is there any evidence that it took place? 367 00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:17,610 People's memories get fuzzy. I don't recall a lot of things that happened in 368 00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:18,610 childhood. 369 00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:23,890 So it doesn't mean that it didn't exist, but it also just, a lot of things can 370 00:26:23,890 --> 00:26:25,910 change in a story over time. 371 00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:30,230 So while you remember it to be one way immediately, as time goes on, it may get 372 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:31,670 a little bit more gray. 373 00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:35,630 If you're hearing it secondhand, it could change several times since then. 374 00:26:36,699 --> 00:26:42,580 People discredit dreams and people's experiences, personal experiences, as 375 00:26:42,580 --> 00:26:46,320 saying that it's not evidence that there is something more going on, but what 376 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,860 other evidence do we have than somebody's testimonial? 377 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,320 How else can we read somebody's dreams? 378 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,460 We have to trust the person telling us. 379 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,220 So once I started realizing that, like, maybe I could dream the future, 380 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,800 naturally I'm like, all right, how can I make money off this? 381 00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:06,110 Let me go in and see if I can, I don't know, maybe get some lottery numbers for 382 00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:07,009 the next day. 383 00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:10,450 And so I spawned outside of this cornfield. Oh, hi, Jenny. 384 00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:12,570 Hi. Okay. 385 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:15,550 Okay. 386 00:27:16,930 --> 00:27:20,150 Okay. Are you going to sit in? It'll kind of be my smoking gun to prove that 387 00:27:20,150 --> 00:27:21,150 this thing exists. 388 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:27,050 If you want something to appear, you can't be looking in the direction that 389 00:27:27,050 --> 00:27:31,110 want it to appear. You actually have to look away and then look back. 390 00:27:31,870 --> 00:27:32,870 And then it'll be there. 391 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:17,040 The numbers start swirling around. Everything's blurry. 392 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,700 I'm like trying to figure out which number is that. It's almost like the 393 00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:26,940 is falling apart around me. It just really doesn't want me to access this 394 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:27,940 information. 395 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,620 All of a sudden, I'm thrust out of the dream, and I'm forced to, okay, what did 396 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:32,539 I just see? 397 00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:35,380 I either grab a dream journal or record on my phone, and I quickly wrote down a 398 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,780 complete sequence of numbers. 399 00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:41,180 I played what was a five -number sequence for what was Jersey Cash 5. 400 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:43,820 It was around, I think, a $500 ,000 prize. 401 00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:46,380 I got three out of five correct. 402 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040 And the other two were like a digit off. 403 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,860 I would equate it to like making free throws in basketball. 404 00:28:52,180 --> 00:28:55,480 This was maybe my fifth or sixth time actually dreaming a set of lottery 405 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,200 numbers. I'm not going to make every shot. 406 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,900 You say I'm LeBron James of sleep. 407 00:28:59,140 --> 00:29:04,040 I would not say you are the LeBron James of sleep because that would mean you 408 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,980 get great sleep every night and you don't. 409 00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:17,710 How many home runs does someone need to get to prove that it's not luck? 410 00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:20,110 Is this a baseball analogy we're using now? 411 00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:24,270 Hey, you like baseball? I love baseball. I would have to see a lot of home runs. 412 00:29:24,370 --> 00:29:27,930 If they're going to be good and legitimate, they have to have a good 413 00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:29,089 Who does? 414 00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:30,130 The precog people. 415 00:29:30,550 --> 00:29:32,410 Maybe the lottery numbers is a bit too ambitious. 416 00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:34,310 Let me do some stock picks. 417 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:39,200 He was on the toilet for what feels like... three hours each night. 418 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,880 That is not an exaggeration at all because I know he's staring at his phone 419 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200 looking at finance stuff, business. 420 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,100 Ah, damn it. 421 00:29:51,220 --> 00:29:52,220 Hold on. 422 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:53,900 Hold on. 423 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:56,160 I'm still pooping. 424 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,900 It's like I'm dumping and it's dumping usually. 425 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:01,400 There's this huge ball of fire. 426 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,760 hurtling through the sky coming crashing towards the ground in this huge burst 427 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,380 of flame like what the heck just happened so i run over and there's a 428 00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:18,000 impact crater and in the center of this crater once the smoke 429 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,620 cleared was a gaming console 430 00:31:06,670 --> 00:31:10,650 And I wake up, I write everything down. I actually draw the dashboard that I 431 00:31:10,650 --> 00:31:13,390 saw. Not long after that, a new console released. 432 00:31:13,690 --> 00:31:18,890 And wouldn't you know it, exact, perfect match to my dream description. Not only 433 00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:23,310 that, but the game that shipped with that console, it's about these 434 00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:29,610 titans falling and flying through the sky as if they were asteroids or meteors 435 00:31:29,610 --> 00:31:31,190 and crashing into the ground. 436 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:33,770 So my dream took those two concepts. 437 00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:35,870 blended them together. 438 00:31:36,130 --> 00:31:38,670 People don't want to hear your goofy dreams. 439 00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:40,410 So you're saying nobody's going to watch this movie? 440 00:31:41,170 --> 00:31:42,170 What do you mean? 441 00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:45,690 Why wouldn't they watch it? You're doing precognitive dreaming. 442 00:31:45,910 --> 00:31:49,870 That's like a dream with vision. I mean, that's totally different. 443 00:31:50,150 --> 00:31:53,750 What you're going to be shown is not always your choice. 444 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:59,170 You can do anything you want. You can, you know, you have choice and all that, 445 00:31:59,290 --> 00:32:00,290 but... 446 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:06,660 I do understand the other side now, and I do lean more towards everything's 447 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:07,660 predestined. 448 00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:12,600 I remember our old family dog, Ella, where I walked her outside one day. 449 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,380 around 9 or 10 years old, which is older for a lab, but usually they go into the 450 00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:18,179 double digits. 451 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:22,460 I took her off the leash, and she went up ahead, stopped, turned around, and 452 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:23,800 then just sat and stared at me. 453 00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:28,480 And I got this sickening gut feeling that this was going to be the last time 454 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,640 that I was going to see my dog. 455 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Yeah, it was around two to three weeks later that Ella was diagnosed with 456 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240 and then died within like five days. 457 00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:39,460 John's 13 years old now. 458 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,100 I've grown up with this dog. He's been in many videos of mine. We call him 459 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,360 John because he just smells. 460 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:47,120 No, no, no. Lay down. 461 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,320 Lay down, John. 462 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,400 Lay down. 463 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,060 We were going to get another dog to play as Ella, but I think it's fitting if 464 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,060 John does. 465 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:57,660 Because you remember her, huh? 466 00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:00,000 As bad as it sounds. 467 00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:03,950 It's like, oh, wow, all I do is dream and have visions of terrible things 468 00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:08,090 happening. That was actually one of the few times where I was glad it happened. 469 00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,990 I feel like it gave me a warning. 470 00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:16,170 It gave me a chance to spend some time with Ella before she might pass. 471 00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:18,410 I'm going to be leaving for a while. 472 00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:21,030 So be here when I get back. 473 00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:25,510 Come on, John. 474 00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:26,530 Let's go be Ella. 475 00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:29,750 Let's go be Ella. 476 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:36,040 This specific precognitive experience is probably one of the ones that breaks my 477 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,040 brain. 478 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:03,220 Do I know you? 479 00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:07,280 You know who I am. 480 00:34:09,659 --> 00:34:10,659 Omar? 481 00:34:30,730 --> 00:34:32,190 I have no clue who Omar is. 482 00:34:32,949 --> 00:34:35,750 I don't know any Omar in my real life. 483 00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:41,969 Yet suddenly my mouth, which I did not have control over, just spoke out loud 484 00:34:41,969 --> 00:34:43,810 and said, Omar? 485 00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:48,710 And then I woke up and immediately jotted it down. However, flash forward 486 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:51,870 later that night. Me and my girlfriend were doing a little Netflix and chill. 487 00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:55,489 And I thought, oh, hey, look, here's a documentary about, it was a 488 00:34:55,489 --> 00:34:57,610 cryptocurrency. Let me check this out. And I click on it. 489 00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:00,170 It was about this exchange getting hacked. 490 00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:03,850 Until I see a man's face appear onto the screen. 491 00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:07,030 It was Omar. 492 00:35:09,490 --> 00:35:11,050 It was the man from my dream. 493 00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:14,350 That's probably the dream man. 494 00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:17,610 Felt like it was all a ploy, something. 495 00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:20,370 Set this all off in motion. 496 00:35:26,110 --> 00:35:28,970 It's... Something that is so impossible to articulate. 497 00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:33,150 It's such a huge basis on why I wanted to make this film. 498 00:35:36,610 --> 00:35:42,150 How do you tell somebody or how do you show the world that I could see the 499 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:47,690 future and be completely realistic and genuine when you say that? 500 00:35:50,110 --> 00:35:51,210 How do you do that? 501 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:54,950 Without everybody saying that. 502 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,620 He's got to be lying. 503 00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:00,780 It's got to be a story. 504 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,520 Especially the guy who made a life story. 505 00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:09,680 That's the ultimate irony. 506 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:17,780 Let's make the guy who fakes everything for videos for YouTube. Let's make him 507 00:36:17,780 --> 00:36:21,300 the guy that can dream the future. 508 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:26,350 That's good. 509 00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:29,350 Then here I am. 510 00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:31,890 Talking about these nightmares. 511 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:36,610 Yeah. But I don't believe that you can predict the future. 512 00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:39,690 Because then you're predicting choice. 513 00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:43,070 And without choice, what's the point? Well, this movie is for you then, 514 00:36:43,310 --> 00:36:44,350 You don't believe in anything. 515 00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:45,910 Not really, no. 516 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:51,310 I believe in the things around me. I believe in people. Ex -girlfriends of 517 00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:55,170 Ex -girlfriends of mine. Literally, their names. In old... Scripts that I 518 00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:56,810 in weird, symbolic ways. 519 00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:02,870 Man, that's coincidence. I mean, they're not really exotic names. 520 00:37:03,490 --> 00:37:06,910 With Ethereum, I picked the best investment of the entire decade, but 521 00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:10,030 almost like I knew. It's almost like I knew the entire run on YouTube. It's 522 00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:10,868 I knew. 523 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:13,610 I wouldn't say these are facts. I would say these are your own experiences. 524 00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:14,610 Because you don't care about the facts. 525 00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:18,990 I think that what you're presenting is your own personal experiences. You can't 526 00:37:18,990 --> 00:37:22,910 honestly say that I told you something prior. 527 00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:25,470 And then it ends up happening. 528 00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:26,710 I don't remember. 529 00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:30,030 There's something down here that I have. 530 00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:33,010 Do you have a yearbook down here? 531 00:37:33,590 --> 00:37:34,950 When did you graduate? 532 00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:36,770 2007. 533 00:37:37,470 --> 00:37:42,170 All the younger siblings are writing to their older siblings and parents. 534 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:44,910 I think there's even something where mom and dad said something, but they're not 535 00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:46,830 going to say something like what I said. 536 00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:48,950 There, look. Read it. Read that. 537 00:37:49,570 --> 00:37:50,890 I already know what it says. 538 00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:52,090 Read it. 539 00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:56,410 Jeffrey. Wow. You don't have to read it into the camera, dude. 540 00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:58,510 You proved me wrong. 541 00:37:58,770 --> 00:38:04,130 I'll try to live to your example, except for the buffness. Because you graduated 542 00:38:04,130 --> 00:38:05,130 high school, I was surprised. 543 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:06,410 That's a joke. 544 00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,210 Understood. Good luck. 545 00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:13,990 I'll see you outside my mansion someday, your little brother, Meatball. 546 00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:17,530 Did I not call that? 547 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,420 Literally, I was what, 14, 15, right around when I was having these other 548 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:23,320 precogs, and I said, see you outside my mansion. 549 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,340 And what happened? You lived in my house. You lived in the mansion with me. 550 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:28,340 don't have a mansion. 551 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:30,100 There's freaking nine bedrooms in the house. 552 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,960 There's three kitchens. 553 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,920 I was basically saying that I knew I would be successful because I knew it. 554 00:38:36,509 --> 00:38:39,750 Why don't you just say that? What's it going to take for you to give me some 555 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:43,450 credit, the fact that I am actually having these experiences and that I 556 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:47,450 potentially feel something intuitively that is going to happen in the future? 557 00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:50,710 Jess, I love you. 558 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,310 You're my little brother. 559 00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:56,590 I support you in the Psycho Series and everything with YouTube and everything. 560 00:38:56,770 --> 00:39:01,390 This goes past that to me because it's a very personal thing. 561 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,700 I understand. And it's something that is very hard to talk about because people 562 00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,920 immediately stigmatize it. They think that it's not valid because it's my 563 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,260 emotional experience. I'm telling you there's something here. 564 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,580 I understand where you're coming from. Suddenly these things that just seem 565 00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,580 of magical happen. 566 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:17,620 By coincidence? 567 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:19,480 You think that's coincidence? 568 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:20,700 Really? 569 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,560 I'm concerned over this. 570 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,880 Okay? I answered the questions. 571 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,220 It may not fit with what you want. 572 00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:32,000 I don't think I can help you. 573 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,640 I'm sorry. 574 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,540 All right. 575 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,320 I can't promise that there will be much of you in it. 576 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,020 That's on you, but you wanted my honest take, and I gave you my honest take. So 577 00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:50,940 whether or not it fits your agenda, that's your call. 578 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,900 It's not an agenda. 579 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,160 It's not. There's no agenda. My agenda is just to keep people open. 580 00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:03,670 Actually, I'm just saying, could you at least consider an opinion outside of 581 00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:08,050 your own that might break how your paradigm works in your brain? Hey, you 582 00:40:08,050 --> 00:40:09,070 haven't convinced me, Jeff. 583 00:40:09,310 --> 00:40:12,410 And if you want this to keep people's minds open, maybe give them all 584 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:15,990 perspectives so that maybe you don't just portray it in one way and then 585 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:18,470 everybody else just thinks the same way as you. Okay. 586 00:40:19,090 --> 00:40:20,090 Fair. 587 00:40:20,770 --> 00:40:21,790 We'll leave a little bit. 588 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:24,930 We'll leave a little bit of your skepticism, but Jeffrey, I think the 589 00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:25,930 enough of that. 590 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:28,650 I've got a mic. Who gets that? 591 00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:31,410 I give it to you, I guess. 592 00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:34,950 I think Jesse's looking for the meaning of life. 593 00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:40,750 I think Jesse's thinking that, you know, he wants to be ahead of the curve. 594 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:42,610 That's what Jesse's all about. 595 00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:46,650 I just want to get answers. I want to go out. I want to talk to people. I want 596 00:40:46,650 --> 00:40:47,650 to talk to people like me. 597 00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:52,710 I want to get whatever experts exist in the space, what little probably are 598 00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:53,710 there. 599 00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:57,810 And I just want them to tell me what's wrong with me or what is potentially 600 00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:00,810 right with me or why am I experiencing these things. 601 00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:04,530 I don't want to feel like I'm crazy. I don't want to feel alone. 602 00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:08,470 I don't know that Jesse will ever find any answers. 603 00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:14,850 I'm hoping that he doesn't get scared to sleep. 604 00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:18,550 Because if I'm going to uncover some answers and get to the truth, I'm going 605 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:19,499 need help. 606 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:23,060 I've already tried living and dealing with it on my own, and I can't say I've 607 00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:24,060 been very successful. 608 00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:31,540 This has been a huge toll on him for as long as I've known him, and I hope that 609 00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:35,220 he finally gets the rest that he needs. 610 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,500 Have you ever dreamt the future? 611 00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:40,780 I have dreamt the future. 612 00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:43,220 Would you say you've dreamt the future? Yeah, I have. 613 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,400 I've dreamt the future on a number of different occasions. 614 00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:47,860 I haven't dreamt the future. 615 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,700 But I believe I have dreamt the future. 616 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:52,380 No, can't say that I have. 617 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:55,200 But I've had this crazy recurring dream. 618 00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,720 Yes, my name is Maria, and I have dreamt the future. I had a dream about getting 619 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:04,320 hit by a car, or nearly getting hit by a car. And literally the next day, one of 620 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,040 my classmates, he ends up getting hit by a car. 621 00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:08,340 There was a lot of fires. 622 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:12,220 Some people were screaming, and it was really, really scary. 623 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,240 Nothing fatal. He ends up getting up and he talked about it the next day. Like, 624 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,660 yo, God, did you see what happened? Serious came to my house and took our 625 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:23,800 hostage. And that was my dream about because I saw it exactly how it was 626 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,720 happened. So in college, there was an incident where a professor was sick. 627 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,680 So they had a substitute. 628 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,600 I really had this strong feeling that my Instagram was going to get deleted. 629 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Like, you ever felt something and then you're like, oh, this is going to happen 630 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,300 today? That's how I felt. I dreamt my grandfather's stroke. 631 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:44,310 the night before it happened. And the previous night, I dreamed of being in a 632 00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:47,950 class with this substitute professor, despite me having never seen them 633 00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:50,350 And the next day, I walked in, and there she was. 634 00:42:50,570 --> 00:42:55,430 My brain told me in the dream that it was my father having a heart attack, but 635 00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:58,150 that was really only me assuming so. 636 00:42:58,510 --> 00:43:02,110 Dreamt that I was at work, and I was working in a tower, taking care of the 637 00:43:02,110 --> 00:43:06,370 planes, bringing them in and out. I dreamt of this random, like, empty mall. 638 00:43:06,850 --> 00:43:09,910 And I could see this man off to my side, and I look over. 639 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,320 Looking straight at him, he raises a gun, and he shoots me right at the 640 00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:18,300 And then a few weeks later, we took a road trip and, like, ended up at that 641 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:20,740 one. And immediately, I was like... 642 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,960 I've been here before. 643 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:26,200 So according to the Zohar, there's never an event that manifests in the physical 644 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,060 world that isn't first dreamed by people. 645 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,740 I think every person has the ability and the talent to listen to their intuition 646 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:37,280 or... I don't know. I just control these premonitions, these dreams, so that I 647 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,960 can have more positive outcomes in my day -to -day life. But these are the 648 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,700 dreams that tend to stick out. I'm waiting for somebody to pop out. 649 00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:48,720 And I'm hoping it's just a crazy dream, but I'm also scared that... 650 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,280 it's going to become my reality 651 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,280 Hey, Mike. 652 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,118 Let's see. 653 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,120 Hi. 654 00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:24,140 It's been a minute. 655 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:27,500 Yep. You all right? 656 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,020 I know. I haven't seen you. 657 00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:33,340 We're already rolling, so. 658 00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:36,900 Yeah, but I thought we were going to talk off camera, Jesse. 659 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,740 Yeah. Well, I want to do it on because there's stuff I want to ask you. So if 660 00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:43,080 were able to come inside. Look what I want to ask you. Like why your dad 661 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,080 me. 662 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,400 I didn't want to talk about that stuff. 663 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,320 So if we could come in, I wanted to ask you just a few questions. 664 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,860 We sat down to an interview. I thought you were making a documentary. 665 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:52,218 We are. We are. 666 00:44:52,220 --> 00:44:55,460 Then why are we doing shots with Bridget by the door and like... We're not 667 00:44:55,460 --> 00:44:59,740 talking about that. That was... We're doing cinematic stuff in addition to 668 00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:00,740 real stuff as well. 669 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:01,919 I'm sorry. 670 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,919 Points. Excuse me. 671 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,720 That's Jason. We've got lighting coming in. 672 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,360 So we're just trying to make it look good. There's a guy who's been in my 673 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,980 for ten minutes. You're not supposed to address us. Hi. 674 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,800 What? Hi. 675 00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:13,700 Hi. 676 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,000 What are we doing? 677 00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:17,160 You still have... 678 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,680 The old notebook that you showed me when I first came here. 679 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:22,380 Why are you talking about that to these people? 680 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,540 They're just going to be, we might have to stop the movie. You got cameras, you 681 00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:26,540 got boom mics. 682 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,540 Yeah. What is all this? You showed me a notebook when I first was here in 2016 683 00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:34,820 that showed, like, predicted different things, like deaths and I think an 684 00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:35,820 album or something. 685 00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:38,020 Okay, this is really personal. 686 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,980 What are you asking questions about? What are you doing? 687 00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:43,580 Yeah, but there's been things that you showed me in the book six years ago that 688 00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:44,860 have come true since that time. 689 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,760 It's a coincidence. 690 00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,180 Why? What is it? 691 00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:50,740 It's coincidence. 692 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,080 That's what it's about. 693 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,360 About what? 694 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:58,240 Precognition. Oh, you're so deep. Like dreaming the future, having visions, 695 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,120 you were, I think, potentially was it free writing? I don't know if I have the 696 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,120 books anymore. 697 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,160 They're gone. 698 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,900 Right? You got to be kidding me. 699 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,880 These got to happen. These still got to happen. Oh, no, we have them. 700 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,880 Oh, my God. 701 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,280 Didn't he predict one of your family members died? 702 00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:13,860 Yeah. 703 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,480 Don't you think that's pretty crazy to talk about? Yeah, it's definitely really 704 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,860 crazy, but I don't know about all these cameras. You share your whole lives with 705 00:46:20,860 --> 00:46:22,600 the camera. This is a little bigger. 706 00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:24,820 There it is. 707 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,260 What do you need this for? 708 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,060 Maybe we'll set you up over there. 709 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,300 You got kid Cheerios still over there. 710 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,520 Yeah, because we have kids. 711 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,160 Yeah. I don't like these guys. I haven't been here in three years, man. 712 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,320 Yeah. Is that what we're talking about? 713 00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:45,640 No. Oh, actually, we do need to have you sign off on the release to be in this. 714 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,440 So actually, we can get that now. 715 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,380 It depends on there. 716 00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:51,820 I'm not signing anything. 717 00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:56,540 My name is Michael Green. I am a YouTuber. You might know me from the 718 00:46:56,540 --> 00:46:57,540 Grandpa show. 719 00:46:57,740 --> 00:46:59,700 So your dad is Angry Grandpa. 720 00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:03,740 My father is Angry Grandpa, the angriest old man on the internet. 721 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,520 What? 722 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,320 I'm known as Kid Behind a Camera because I was always the guy filming the video. 723 00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:14,090 You might have seen Angry Grandpa Destroyed PlayStation 4. It's got 40 724 00:47:14,090 --> 00:47:18,110 views. The video where I gave him his dream car on Facebook has over 100 725 00:47:18,110 --> 00:47:19,970 views. The videos are everywhere. 726 00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:23,670 Kevin Hart, Shaquille O 'Neal, they were sharing a video where Dad tried to 727 00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:24,850 scrub a tattoo off his back. 728 00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:29,970 And we were glad for him. We came from a trailer park. And from the trailer 729 00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:32,090 park, I was able to buy my father a house. 730 00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:35,490 And he didn't have to worry about bills anymore until his death. 731 00:47:36,170 --> 00:47:37,710 YouTube has given me everything. 732 00:47:38,050 --> 00:47:43,110 Right now I have two kids and I upload daily videos with them and we're total 733 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:44,250 white trash. 734 00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:45,650 That's what we are. 735 00:47:46,450 --> 00:47:51,870 McJuggerNugget was my biggest competition on YouTube. One day we're 736 00:47:51,870 --> 00:47:55,310 angry grandpa videos and we're the number one in the freak out genre. 737 00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:05,900 Then all of a sudden there's this other guy that people are talking about. And 738 00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:09,440 at the beginning, I didn't think he was a threat. I better compete or my 739 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,198 channel's done. 740 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,060 Now all of a sudden he's doing videos with his father and they're breaking 741 00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:14,400 things. He took my thing. 742 00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:18,040 I'm not going to let you sneak that, Daryl. But that's what happened, Jesse. 743 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,440 Really? Did I get any royalties? 744 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,800 No, you get nothing. 745 00:48:22,540 --> 00:48:25,120 Jugger Nuggets and I have done a ton of videos together. 746 00:48:25,850 --> 00:48:27,530 He's kidnapped my kid at one point. 747 00:48:29,050 --> 00:48:31,130 It's all a blur. I don't even remember the videos. 748 00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:35,530 When we first collabed, there was a notebook that you showed me in 2016. 749 00:48:36,050 --> 00:48:37,050 Can you talk about that? 750 00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:41,130 Whatever I write is what I write. Sometimes it's a little note. Sometimes 751 00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:42,129 complete gibberish. 752 00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:44,770 And sometimes what I write down has happened. 753 00:48:45,070 --> 00:48:47,610 I don't even know what I'm thinking when I'm writing at the time. 754 00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:51,510 All I know is I'll snap out of it and I'll look and, oh, I wrote some stuff. 755 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:52,810 then I'll turn the page and write something else. 756 00:48:55,870 --> 00:48:58,770 People call our videos fake, so they're not going to believe it. 757 00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:00,170 I'm ashamed of it. 758 00:49:00,490 --> 00:49:04,530 Is there a certain fear you have for this specifically being called fake? 759 00:49:05,370 --> 00:49:06,490 Yeah, because it's real. 760 00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:09,110 Do you believe it, to be real? 761 00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:11,470 Sometimes. 762 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:14,790 I just don't have an explanation for it. I don't know what it is. 763 00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:21,270 This page says the love that you bring to help me the gate is a nightmare. 764 00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:23,010 Do you know? 765 00:49:23,470 --> 00:49:24,670 Yes, I remember this. 766 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,960 Because the song came out. What's the song? 767 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,700 The love that you bring. 768 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,660 That's the first line you have, yep. 769 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,920 Brings me home. 770 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,940 How's the chorus go? Do you love me? Do you need me? Do you want to believe me? 771 00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:46,020 Do you think that you don't need me? Do you want to deceive me? 772 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,280 Yeah, that's what you have. 773 00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:48,540 Pretty much. 774 00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,900 Right. I mean, Jesse, I understand. 775 00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:54,760 Do you? And sometimes I'll write fake albums. 776 00:49:55,290 --> 00:50:00,110 that don't exist, that I want to, and I'll sing them to myself, and I'll 777 00:50:00,110 --> 00:50:03,310 that the songs are real. Sometimes I'll go to the computer and design them. 778 00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:04,510 The album's not recovered. 779 00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:05,630 You have written recovered. 780 00:50:05,970 --> 00:50:07,930 Look at the cover that I drew. 781 00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:09,630 Oh, Jesus. 782 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,350 Yeah, I see a man on a road. You see the lines. 783 00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:15,330 White trash party. 784 00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:17,690 You have white trash party written down. 785 00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:19,290 Going through changes. 786 00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:22,030 You have gone through changes written down. 787 00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:23,770 Jesse. 788 00:50:24,190 --> 00:50:26,270 I'm going to look like some kind of weirdo right now. 789 00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:27,710 Nobody's buying this. 790 00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:34,030 Yep, here's another image of an Eminem album cover. A man's face as it kind of 791 00:50:34,030 --> 00:50:35,230 blends in with a flag. 792 00:50:35,590 --> 00:50:37,170 What are some of the tracks on that album? 793 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:38,730 Walk on Water. 794 00:50:39,010 --> 00:50:40,910 Your first track, you have Water to Wine. 795 00:50:42,010 --> 00:50:43,650 River. You have the river. 796 00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:44,970 What's with the star? 797 00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:46,650 Star indicates a thingle. 798 00:50:46,970 --> 00:50:48,170 River was a thingle, yeah. 799 00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:51,650 You're getting some of these verbatim, word for word. 800 00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:54,380 Yeah. It was a very important album to me. 801 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,760 It leaked the day of Dad's funeral. 802 00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,720 You think that's why? 803 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,020 Do you have a real fear of stuff that's to come? Because there was one entry you 804 00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:09,440 had with an asteroid hitting the Earth in 2029. 805 00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:11,700 And coming back in 2036. 806 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,000 I've had dreams about it. 807 00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:18,460 You've also had dreams. That asteroid entry is not free -riding. I purposely 808 00:51:18,460 --> 00:51:20,020 wrote that one. Jesus Christ, Mike. 809 00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:25,950 You have a shooting in Vegas, 2017, says Mandalay Bay. 810 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:27,250 Yeah. 811 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:35,530 Brooklyn, Florida, the school shooting, gun violence, it's all written together. 812 00:51:36,130 --> 00:51:37,470 Right, but what do I do with it? 813 00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:40,670 It's not even a matter of what do you do. If I go to the police and say, hey, 814 00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:42,930 there's going to be a shooting, I'm going to get arrested. 815 00:51:43,550 --> 00:51:46,410 I have a page open right here. It says contagious. 816 00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:51,710 Says after a bite from a bat, the world shuts down from a virus that spreads 817 00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:52,710 like the plague. 818 00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:57,210 The president fails to control it and suddenly we're getting delivered 819 00:51:57,210 --> 00:52:02,230 and even washing them. The vaccine isn't trusted and the scientists are idiots. 820 00:52:02,290 --> 00:52:05,270 Nobody wears a mask and it never goes away. 821 00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:08,410 This was written before 2020. 822 00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:10,470 It was written in like 2010. 823 00:52:11,230 --> 00:52:13,570 Correct. Says happy birthday, dad. 824 00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:15,050 Life is so good. 825 00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:17,640 and I keep waiting for it to drop on my head. 826 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,940 I don't want to lose you, but I have a bad feeling. 827 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,140 Is it coming? How long? Under five years. 828 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,840 That is like not telling us. Look at his skin. What is the relevance with look 829 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,618 at his skin? 830 00:52:30,620 --> 00:52:31,620 Do you have that underlined? 831 00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:38,240 I kept having a feeling, 832 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,340 dreams where he wasn't in them for the future. 833 00:52:45,260 --> 00:52:50,720 So I told him to get checked for cirrhosis of the liver because his skin 834 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:52,480 ripping really easily. 835 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,620 And I told him, I was like, Dad, maybe you should get checked for cirrhosis. 836 00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,500 he told me, oh, I'm fine. I'm fine, Mike. 837 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,800 And he died of cirrhosis. 838 00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:03,600 You have this written in 2014. 839 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,640 Yeah. 840 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,520 What does it mean? 841 00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:14,900 Did you ever show him this? 842 00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,960 No. I told him to get checked. 843 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,680 I asked him if he would get some blood work. 844 00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:23,960 Part of me thinks he already knew. 845 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,160 I lived in fear my whole entire life of my father's death. 846 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,460 It haunted me since I was a child. 847 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,100 I would open the door to make sure he's still breathing when I was 10. 848 00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:41,180 And then when he passed away, I never felt anything about it again. 849 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,120 I'm not afraid of death anymore. I'm not. 850 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,180 Do you think you would have listened? 851 00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:51,900 Bridget, if Michael had said something about you, something was going to happen 852 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:53,200 to you, would you have listened to him? 853 00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:58,040 Yeah, I would. At this point now, because you've seen enough evidence? 854 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,000 warned you about stuff and you don't believe it. 855 00:54:01,860 --> 00:54:02,860 Would you? 856 00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:04,780 Well, if it was about me, yeah. 857 00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:08,460 Bridget, Grandma, much older, long way to go. And then what is his name? 858 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,180 Thumner. Thumner. Who is that? 859 00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:12,610 That was my grandpa. 860 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:19,170 And it has written here May 2nd, 2010, 84 years. And this was written May 2nd, 861 00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:24,890 2009. Did Sumner die? I don't know. Yeah. I never told her grandmother this. 862 00:54:25,090 --> 00:54:27,230 They're going to hate me for it. They're not going to hate you. 863 00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:28,590 He died a year later. 864 00:54:29,110 --> 00:54:30,110 To the day. 865 00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:35,570 It's just mind -boggling for somebody who's had this many experiences like 866 00:54:35,570 --> 00:54:36,570 you've had. 867 00:54:37,330 --> 00:54:38,330 What is this? 868 00:54:39,630 --> 00:54:40,630 Someone please. 869 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,260 Every time you turn to a new page, Mike. 870 00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:45,100 Did you just write this, Mike? 871 00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:46,300 What does it say? 872 00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:50,580 Show me, because now I'm freaking out. Jesse tries to kill himself? 873 00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:54,660 What? Wife dies after a battle with cancer. 874 00:54:54,980 --> 00:54:55,980 It's a movie idea. 875 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,040 I've seen Ashley. 876 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,160 I've had this. 877 00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:02,440 You've dreamed of this? 878 00:55:02,660 --> 00:55:03,660 No. 879 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,240 I've seen it in waking life. I've seen her bald. 880 00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:09,180 I've seen her with cancer. 881 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:16,380 It says, they live on another plane, always around us, always watching. They 882 00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:18,060 appear to us like loved ones. 883 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,980 Because you know we're being haunted. 884 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,720 Stop. You're internalizing this stuff too much, Jesse. 885 00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:28,120 Like, that's a movie idea, man. 886 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,000 Yeah, but a lot of my video ideas have ended up coming true. And you're writing 887 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,480 this movie. And now that I see the name, you've mentioned this movie before. So 888 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,080 it's one that you've been writing for a while. 889 00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:41,290 It's an idea you've had for a long time. 890 00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:45,490 It's all linked because you're feeling it. You're feeling the future. 891 00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:48,390 Yeah. Genuinely, I never thought about it like that. Which part? 892 00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:51,670 I'm writing movie ideas about shit. 893 00:55:52,010 --> 00:55:55,530 I'm thinking it's a movie idea because it's an idea that came to me, but what 894 00:55:55,530 --> 00:55:56,650 it's not? What if it's something? 895 00:55:57,050 --> 00:55:58,050 Yeah. 896 00:55:58,770 --> 00:55:59,770 It's a movie, man. 897 00:56:00,410 --> 00:56:01,410 It's a movie, man. 898 00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,190 So we're just stuck in this. 899 00:56:05,010 --> 00:56:08,150 I mean, I feel like that's the only way for it to be true, right? 900 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:09,810 Yeah. We're fucked. 901 00:56:10,610 --> 00:56:12,010 Would you want to try to tap in now? 902 00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:15,650 Me and you, like, one -on -one, see if we can get anything? 903 00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:16,910 It's not going to work. 904 00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:18,210 What if it does? 905 00:56:18,330 --> 00:56:24,270 Back in 2019, Jesse had this idea that maybe we could send messages to each 906 00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:29,110 other if we're standing across from each other. So I had Bridget on the phone. I 907 00:56:29,110 --> 00:56:32,370 texted her the emoji for the Easter Island head. 908 00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:34,170 Let's see if he guesses it. 909 00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:35,590 And he guessed it. 910 00:56:36,330 --> 00:56:38,470 First thing out of his mouth was Easter Island. 911 00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:43,590 And the hairs on my arms stuck up, and he thought we were lying. We both cried. 912 00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:47,890 How do you explain it? How did that happen? 913 00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:51,570 I wasn't reading your mind. It's just that I would later get exposed to Easter 914 00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:53,370 Island, and I was somehow able to see it. 915 00:56:53,650 --> 00:57:00,590 So you think the loop scenario. So because you see it here, you can see it 916 00:57:03,590 --> 00:57:04,710 I have some things. 917 00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:08,410 I'm afraid to speak it out loud. 918 00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:09,950 Because I don't want it to be wrong. 919 00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:11,830 I'm also afraid it might be right, too. 920 00:57:13,550 --> 00:57:16,470 Waterfall, Appalachian, like evergreen trees. 921 00:57:17,050 --> 00:57:18,130 Completely off, right? 922 00:57:18,930 --> 00:57:24,930 Heisenberg. Well, at the end of Breaking Bad, he was... I'll give you a prompt. 923 00:57:25,390 --> 00:57:26,770 Animal. Llama? 924 00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:27,968 Mm -mm. 925 00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:31,290 There's nothing to it. There's nothing to the... I keep trying. Keep trying. 926 00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:33,850 You keep naming animals all day. 927 00:57:34,610 --> 00:57:35,610 Horse. 928 00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:41,800 Hippopotamus. Are we forcing it? Well, yeah, this is definitely forcing it. 929 00:57:44,620 --> 00:57:47,700 So I got a word, actually, that came to me, and the word was feline. 930 00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,060 What are we doing here? Like a cat. 931 00:57:50,380 --> 00:57:51,380 What are we doing? 932 00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:52,460 Uncle Larry. 933 00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:56,940 Let's do one more. Eventually, a broken clock is right twice a day. 934 00:57:57,180 --> 00:57:58,180 I have no explanation. 935 00:57:58,380 --> 00:57:59,339 I'll pick another. 936 00:57:59,340 --> 00:58:00,340 Let me pick another one. We're done. 937 00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:02,020 That's it. 938 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:02,799 That's it. 939 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,900 That's what we need. We want to get at least one on camera. 940 00:58:05,140 --> 00:58:05,959 Fake it then. 941 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,340 Who else is going to? How many people do you know that has a notebook? 942 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,540 How many people do you know that has predicted death like that? Everything 943 00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:14,740 I've written has been on my own. Everything you have seen has been on 944 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,700 You can't do it under, like, people staring. 945 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,020 This is the day that we have. We're in your house, so there's nowhere to leave. 946 00:58:20,380 --> 00:58:21,880 I'll catch an Uber. 947 00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:24,620 I'm going to leave and walk away. We did it once. We can do it again. 948 00:58:25,050 --> 00:58:28,610 We did it once. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. I can't do this all day with 949 00:58:28,610 --> 00:58:30,350 you. You agreed to let us film here. 950 00:58:30,610 --> 00:58:33,050 And we've been here for seven and a half hours. I want to get one. 951 00:58:33,370 --> 00:58:34,189 What is this? 952 00:58:34,190 --> 00:58:35,190 I told you. 953 00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:39,430 It's precognitive dream work by Eric Wargo. He also wrote this book, Time 954 00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:41,650 I'm going to interview him. I think it'd be great if you were there. 955 00:58:41,890 --> 00:58:42,890 Where does he live? 956 00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:44,069 Washington, D .C. 957 00:58:44,070 --> 00:58:45,070 No, thank you. 958 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,160 You want answers? You want to understand it like I do? Then, yeah, we're going 959 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,480 to talk to the expert who knows. And what is me being in Eric Wargo's house 960 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,380 going to solve on anything? If you read these books and he talks about what's in 961 00:58:56,380 --> 00:59:00,020 there, you will be convinced. He's coming up with terms. He's been studying 962 00:59:00,020 --> 00:59:01,020 for decades. 963 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,840 How much money have you spent on this? 964 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,280 I've invested everything into this film. 965 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:06,700 Everything, Jesse? 966 00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:08,740 Oh, my God. 967 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:12,940 I still get these visions. I still get things. 968 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,880 I haven't gotten anything in a while. 969 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,700 Maybe because you've closed yourself off to it. I don't, yeah, that's exactly 970 00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:20,180 what I've done. And you should too. 971 00:59:20,380 --> 00:59:23,580 Can you please, can you come with me? Because I'm tired of feeling like I'm 972 00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:24,580 alone in this. 973 00:59:25,060 --> 00:59:26,860 I know we haven't talked in a bit. 974 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,960 But I thought it'd be nice to reopen that and I have somebody who's been 975 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,220 with me. Hey, you can write me anytime that you want. 976 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,620 Okay? Of course, dude. 977 00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:39,240 You just gotta unblock me. 978 00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:42,220 And your dad and your mom. 979 00:59:43,509 --> 00:59:45,630 Have your family unblock me. We can be friends. 980 00:59:47,170 --> 00:59:50,410 But this, I can't go to this guy's house. I can't. 981 00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:52,650 I thought you were giving it to me. 982 00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:58,030 You have money. Go order your own book. You probably won't. 983 00:59:59,370 --> 01:00:01,790 I wasn't going to read it. I didn't think so. 984 01:00:02,030 --> 01:00:04,630 Your own dad's death, how many times in there? 985 01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:08,890 And you still can't honestly look me in the eyes and say you don't believe that 986 01:00:08,890 --> 01:00:09,890 there's something here. 987 01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:11,770 Look me in the eyes and tell me. 988 01:00:12,820 --> 01:00:15,260 that you don't believe there's something here? 989 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,560 You want to know the truth? 990 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,480 If it's real, and I could have prevented it, I don't know how I live with 991 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,480 myself. 992 01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:27,700 That's the truth. 993 01:00:27,860 --> 01:00:32,480 If I could have said something to Dad, or I could have prevented it, I'm not 994 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,600 going to be able to live with myself. 995 01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:37,120 It can't be real. 996 01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:40,860 It can't. It can't be real. 997 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,340 Of all the people in this thick joke that would be having these visions, it's 998 01:00:46,340 --> 01:00:51,300 just me and this guy who have faked our entire lives for the internet. You can 999 01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:54,160 show them proof on this movie and they'll never believe you. 1000 01:00:56,660 --> 01:00:57,700 I'm sorry, man. 1001 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,600 I'll believe you. 1002 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:03,280 If you show me proof, I'll believe you. Not enough. 1003 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,280 Gotta be. 1004 01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:09,020 Sorry that business stuff didn't work out with us. 1005 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,220 I did that business because I believed it. I hope you believe in me now because 1006 01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:18,320 I don't have anything left. I need to figure out what this is. 1007 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,780 God damn, I just hope people believe it. 1008 01:01:24,820 --> 01:01:27,920 Because if this comes out and they don't believe the stuff that we're saying, 1009 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:28,919 I'm done. 1010 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,560 I don't think I can recover from that. Just prepare yourself for the 1011 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,560 that they will. 1012 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:52,740 Yeah, we were coming from South Carolina, and then there's my fellow 1013 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,020 He's had a lot of experiences, and then, yeah, he didn't really want to come 1014 01:01:57,020 --> 01:01:58,020 with, so it's just me. 1015 01:01:58,180 --> 01:01:59,300 Why didn't he want to come? 1016 01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:03,780 He's actually a bit freaked out by all of it. People are scared of the topic. 1017 01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:08,960 Yeah. Scared when it happens, and they don't understand. 1018 01:02:10,820 --> 01:02:15,320 It really makes me feel like that I'm just kind of playing all of this out, 1019 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,640 I don't have control of anything. 1020 01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:18,070 maybe that's true. 1021 01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:23,550 I'm about to like trauma dump on you. And then made the mistake of putting my 1022 01:02:23,550 --> 01:02:24,550 email on the book. 1023 01:02:27,010 --> 01:02:30,350 It's not a mistake, but, but I've gotten a lot of emails. How do you feel when 1024 01:02:30,350 --> 01:02:33,450 people start telling you their dreams? I love hearing, I love hearing their 1025 01:02:33,450 --> 01:02:37,290 dreams because dreams are the most brilliant, brilliant things. And we're 1026 01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:39,750 genius artists while we're sleeping. 1027 01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:45,690 And that ingenuity in the way person will represent some future event in the 1028 01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:46,690 dream scenario. 1029 01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:48,610 is just, it's brilliant. 1030 01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:54,230 I'm Eric Wargo. I have a PhD in anthropology and I work as a science 1031 01:02:54,230 --> 01:03:00,290 Washington, D .C. I am the author of two books on precognition, Time Looped and 1032 01:03:00,290 --> 01:03:02,610 Precognitive Dreamwork and the Long Self. 1033 01:03:02,930 --> 01:03:07,310 Physicists since Einstein's time have pretty much accepted that we live in 1034 01:03:07,310 --> 01:03:08,590 what's called a block universe. 1035 01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:11,050 That is to say, we live in a space -time continuum. 1036 01:03:11,410 --> 01:03:14,790 What that implies is that the future already exists. 1037 01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:20,770 And if that cosmology, that block universe cosmology that allows something 1038 01:03:20,770 --> 01:03:24,570 precognition to exist because it means that there is a future that can 1039 01:03:24,570 --> 01:03:28,250 us now. You can get all kinds of things out of your dreams. You can get creative 1040 01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:29,570 insights, personal insights. 1041 01:03:29,850 --> 01:03:34,670 You need to get a feel for that associative language, get a feel for the 1042 01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:39,950 that your brain is taking real life and twisting it and transforming it. 1043 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,820 and turning it into something symbolic. 1044 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,440 In the ancient world, in ancient Greece, in ancient Egypt, there were temples 1045 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,020 and caves where people would go to dream, to have healing dreams. 1046 01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:53,640 And there were priests that would help you interpret your dreams. And it was 1047 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,080 believed that they could, by sleeping in caves, they could get in touch with the 1048 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,020 dead. And the dead, because they didn't have bodies, were more in touch with the 1049 01:04:02,020 --> 01:04:05,620 future. And so they would ask the dead questions about the future. 1050 01:04:05,820 --> 01:04:08,540 Once I would get control of my dreams, I would start to query future 1051 01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:12,780 information. Dead family members would tell me things. It was almost like I got 1052 01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:19,740 control. And it started to become a very bad thing. It is a bad 1053 01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:21,100 thing. It is currently a bad thing. 1054 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:31,660 It's like an obsession now of, like, trying to get future information, you 1055 01:04:32,620 --> 01:04:35,400 Because I've had relatives die that I knew would die. 1056 01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:36,940 And I want to stop it. 1057 01:04:39,420 --> 01:04:40,620 But I can't stop it. 1058 01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:42,300 Then why show it? 1059 01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:47,620 What do I do? 1060 01:04:48,460 --> 01:04:49,379 You know? 1061 01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:50,380 What is it? 1062 01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:52,200 It's a normal thing. 1063 01:04:53,420 --> 01:04:57,020 And it happens to everybody. 1064 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,560 It doesn't feel like it's normal. 1065 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,170 Well, it doesn't feel like it's normal because our... Culture doesn't normalize 1066 01:05:02,170 --> 01:05:03,170 it. 1067 01:05:03,550 --> 01:05:08,510 Okay, our culture, first of all, sweeps the whole topic under the rug. One of 1068 01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:13,870 the things that I've learned in my study of this topic is that those bad things 1069 01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:16,410 that you dream about, they're just a tiny fraction. 1070 01:05:16,890 --> 01:05:23,070 If I decide to lean into it, that this was all a real thing, that, okay, maybe 1071 01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:27,030 you can see a little bit into the future, well, then all of this is BS. 1072 01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:29,390 All of what is BS? 1073 01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:32,480 existence, like life. 1074 01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:37,980 Like, it just feels like I don't have choice, that I don't have any free will 1075 01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:38,980 whatsoever. 1076 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,380 You know, I think the free will thing is partly a Western hang -up. 1077 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:49,780 Einstein's discoveries showed that for any, like, any present moment in the 1078 01:05:49,780 --> 01:05:52,920 universe, there's a point of view from which it's already in the past. So from 1079 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,180 that point of view, it's not freely willed. 1080 01:05:55,420 --> 01:05:58,160 Prophecies are always on some level self -fulfilling. 1081 01:05:58,780 --> 01:06:03,900 That is to say, they are part of a loop where our freely willed actions lead to 1082 01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:06,580 some point that we have prophesied. 1083 01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:11,900 And that point that we have prophesied has fed back and influenced our actions 1084 01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:16,000 leading to that point. It kind of created some form of magic in this world 1085 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,560 was, I guess, nice to cling to. 1086 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,120 And it's given you the topic of a feature film. 1087 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,400 Here we are. 1088 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,000 It's incredibly common for artists. 1089 01:06:25,610 --> 01:06:31,570 for their life to imitate their art in some uncanny way. There was an 1898 1090 01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:38,430 called Futility by a sea adventure writer named Morgan Robertson. And in 1091 01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:44,590 this novel, the largest ocean liner ever, called Titan, collides with an 1092 01:06:44,590 --> 01:06:45,950 on an April night. 1093 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:51,220 In the North Atlantic, on a run between New York and Liverpool, and almost all 1094 01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:53,640 the passengers are killed because there aren't enough lifeboats. 1095 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:58,140 Virtually that same scenario played out 14 years later, the Titanic disaster. 1096 01:06:58,420 --> 01:07:02,900 In that case, it was a mirror image of that run between Liverpool and New York. 1097 01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:07,940 So many people, for instance, had premonitions of 9 -11 before it 1098 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:13,660 David Mandel woke up from a dream on September 11, 1996. 1099 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,640 in which the towers in New York were crashing together. 1100 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,960 And he painted this and then had himself photographed under the clock at his 1101 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,240 local bank because he very frequently had premonitions, dream premonitions 1102 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,020 came true. And a few months after that, he had another dream of planes crashing 1103 01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:35,640 into the towers. So as you can imagine, he was pretty stunned when the event 1104 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,740 unfolded on 9 -11 in 2001. 1105 01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:42,330 You have a term for that in your book, right? Yeah, calendrical resonance. 1106 01:07:42,690 --> 01:07:45,230 Well, there's some way in which just the same way that you might be 1107 01:07:45,230 --> 01:07:49,430 unconsciously primed by an anniversary to like, you know, I'm in a bad mood 1108 01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:52,410 today. And you look at the calendar, it's like, oh, this is the day that my 1109 01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:55,530 girlfriend broke up with me two years, you know, two years ago, whatever. The 1110 01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:59,250 same way that we're primed that way, I think we're primed in the opposite 1111 01:07:59,250 --> 01:08:02,250 direction. Had you heard of this woman in Toronto? 1112 01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:06,710 She won $60 million in 2021 based off of... 1113 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:12,860 the exact sequence of numbers that were dreamt by her husband 19 years earlier. 1114 01:08:13,340 --> 01:08:15,520 Wow. No, I did not know about that case. 1115 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,439 Tried to get her an interview and talk to the lottery, and I talked to the 1116 01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:22,760 and they were like, she's not giving any handouts. 1117 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,300 Right. Everybody was like, no, I just want to talk to her about the dream and 1118 01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:27,939 the numbers. I don't want the money, right? 1119 01:08:28,180 --> 01:08:31,779 To have a dream that comes true a day later, well, that's pretty mind 1120 01:08:31,939 --> 01:08:37,069 To have a dream that comes true decades later, like talk about... certainty that 1121 01:08:37,069 --> 01:08:41,430 you live in a block universe i even had one small dream where it was real basic 1122 01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:45,630 i just felt in the back of my mouth really sharp pain in the back near the 1123 01:08:45,630 --> 01:08:51,229 molars and it inspired me to be go to the dentist and there was a cavity right 1124 01:08:51,229 --> 01:08:55,029 there and so That dream just really helped me out there. 1125 01:08:55,310 --> 01:09:01,090 Freud's story is so ironic from start to finish, it's not even funny. He was 1126 01:09:01,090 --> 01:09:05,710 having arguably precognitive experiences throughout his life. He didn't really 1127 01:09:05,710 --> 01:09:10,390 dream of how he was going to die, but he dreamed about the oral cancer that he 1128 01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:15,430 was going to develop later in his life. Part of the dream was the symptoms in 1129 01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:18,910 the mouth of one of his patients, you know, nearly three decades later, 1130 01:09:19,350 --> 01:09:23,229 exactly what happened in his own mouth. I argue that Green was a premonition 1131 01:09:23,229 --> 01:09:26,390 that just went unrecognized, as most premonitions do. 1132 01:09:26,670 --> 01:09:28,290 Harriet Tubman had... 1133 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,439 what we would now call very standard precognitive dreams. Dreams about a 1134 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,760 particular family member being in danger. She would see herself flying 1135 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:43,060 landscape. She would dream about women dressed in white who would help her on 1136 01:09:43,060 --> 01:09:48,520 her journeys to the north. When she was in her early teens, she received a very 1137 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,700 strong blow on the head. Quite common in the biographies of people with powerful 1138 01:09:52,700 --> 01:09:57,140 precognitive experiences that they have some sort of physical trauma, like a 1139 01:09:57,140 --> 01:10:01,510 head injury. or being struck by lightning or something like that. I had 1140 01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:04,390 injury right around when I was the age of 21. 1141 01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:10,830 Do you feel like that brain injury has any relevance to this? I've had them 1142 01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:14,950 after the brain injury, before the brain injury. One of the most striking modern 1143 01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:20,730 cases of a regular precognitive dreamer is a woman named Elizabeth Krohn. In 1144 01:10:20,730 --> 01:10:25,410 1988, she was struck by lightning. She started having regular precognitive 1145 01:10:25,410 --> 01:10:30,100 dream. And one of the vivid details was that the passengers were somehow 1146 01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:34,920 standing on the wings. What happened was a few hours later, Chesley Sullenberger 1147 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,120 pilots his plane to a safe landing on the Hudson. All the passengers then come 1148 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,700 out standing on the wings waiting to be rescued by a nearby boat. And these 1149 01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:47,020 photos went viral on the Internet. Was it the lightning strike which somehow 1150 01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:52,160 jolted something loose in her brain, you know, or did it just, like, give her 1151 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,840 this heightened awareness of death? 1152 01:10:56,030 --> 01:11:00,390 things that would magnetize her attention after that. You know, was it 1153 01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:03,410 like a trauma? Who knows? I mean, I think there's all kinds of ways in which 1154 01:11:03,410 --> 01:11:05,510 these kinds of experiences can change us. 1155 01:11:06,150 --> 01:11:11,590 Precognition is intuition by another name. It is a kind of memory. It's a 1156 01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:18,010 of connection to our own future, the same way memory, ordinary memory, is a 1157 01:11:18,010 --> 01:11:19,010 connection to our past. 1158 01:11:19,370 --> 01:11:22,870 Where does deja vu fall into this? Because I've had a tremendous amount, 1159 01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:28,130 would swear that it was a dream that I had that I didn't write down, and that's 1160 01:11:28,130 --> 01:11:29,490 where that familiarity came from. 1161 01:11:29,810 --> 01:11:33,750 Yeah, a lot of people ask that. A lot of people think that, well, deja vu must 1162 01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:37,730 be an aspect of this, and it could be. The trouble is there's no way to test 1163 01:11:38,130 --> 01:11:41,930 I remember I was in Atlantic City getting a call that one of my close 1164 01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:45,350 had overdosed. His name was Scott. He shows up in my dreams a lot. 1165 01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:50,830 I remember walking this Atlantic City street, thinking Scott had just died, 1166 01:11:50,830 --> 01:11:53,790 I just got this crazy deja vu. I was like, I'd lived this before. 1167 01:11:56,150 --> 01:11:58,510 Whoa. I just had deja vu. 1168 01:11:59,330 --> 01:12:00,330 What? 1169 01:12:00,570 --> 01:12:01,930 I just had deja vu. 1170 01:12:02,270 --> 01:12:03,148 Nuh -uh. 1171 01:12:03,150 --> 01:12:05,010 Is it odd? No, I just had deja vu. 1172 01:12:05,790 --> 01:12:06,890 How could that be possible? 1173 01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:09,690 Usually it's knowing what people are going to say. 1174 01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:13,990 Like I've already heard them say the phrase before they said it and I could 1175 01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:17,570 word for word say it. But then all of a sudden it like it does feel like it 1176 01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:21,430 shifts. Like once I draw attention to it, all of a sudden you lose it. Yeah. 1177 01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:26,330 Another thing that contributes to precognitive abilities is sort of being 1178 01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:30,630 to linger on that border line between waking and sleep. 1179 01:12:31,930 --> 01:12:35,770 Semi -awake states, it's called hypnagogia. Those are the sort of 1180 01:12:35,770 --> 01:12:40,430 images that you have on your way to falling asleep. Those are often rich for 1181 01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:42,010 precognitive material. 1182 01:12:42,650 --> 01:12:47,150 Thomas Edison famously got inspiration by maintaining himself in a state of 1183 01:12:47,150 --> 01:12:51,310 hypnagogia, and I don't know exactly what his method was. Salvador Dali, he's 1184 01:12:51,310 --> 01:12:55,790 the one who used a pair, like he'd hold some keys in his hand, he would have a 1185 01:12:55,790 --> 01:13:00,110 plate below the keys, and he would sit in a chair, and then as he... 1186 01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:04,890 dozed off he'd drop the keys and that would wake him up and so that's the key 1187 01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:09,930 accessing hypnagogic information or in dolly's case painted i mean he would 1188 01:13:09,930 --> 01:13:14,450 paint these very elaborate paintings of these just bizarre images that would 1189 01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:19,570 occur to him on the edge of sleep because can i show you something sure 1190 01:13:19,570 --> 01:13:26,560 come across this man before no do you look familiar at all no He's appeared 1191 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,520 in multiple dreams of mine, and he's told me future information. 1192 01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:35,840 Well, dreams always personify things, and they personify abstractions. And it 1193 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:41,840 sounds like your dreaming brain is personifying the idea of precognition. 1194 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,440 an abstraction right there. And it's personifying it by attaching it to a 1195 01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:49,180 figure. To me, I feel... 1196 01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:54,100 as close to evil as you can get. Like, I don't get a good impression from him, 1197 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:59,680 and when he tells me any of these details, I almost feel like he's got an 1198 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,440 that is not for my benefit. 1199 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,960 Isn't that how you feel about precognition in general? 1200 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:12,460 Figures that appear evil in our dreams, if we encounter them in real life, 1201 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,660 they're not evil at all. I mean, don't be afraid of this guy. 1202 01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:18,740 Like, he's like the last person I'm going to see. 1203 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,960 In your life, you mean? 1204 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,680 Yeah. 1205 01:14:29,420 --> 01:14:33,580 So, like, if I ever do see him, I think that'll be it. 1206 01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:36,280 I think that'll be the end. 1207 01:14:41,540 --> 01:14:45,280 I would say that you're probably wrong. 1208 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,840 Traveled all the way across the country to Ion. This is the Institute of Noetic 1209 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,340 Sciences. This is one of the premier research facilities on consciousness. 1210 01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:04,860 We're getting to talk to some of the lead researchers in this field, and 1211 01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:07,060 finally, I can get some answers. 1212 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,160 Aw, I'll be damned. 1213 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,500 He actually showed up. 1214 01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:12,260 Hello there, sir. 1215 01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:14,500 Okay. 1216 01:15:14,660 --> 01:15:16,740 Wow. I didn't think you'd show up, man. 1217 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,040 Yep. 1218 01:15:18,190 --> 01:15:20,530 You seem like you're, like, not even sure why you're here. 1219 01:15:20,910 --> 01:15:22,350 I'm not sure why I'm here. 1220 01:15:22,570 --> 01:15:23,730 You said you had something. 1221 01:15:24,090 --> 01:15:27,410 Yep, the scientists are kind enough to let us in with the cameras and let us do 1222 01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:28,269 some experiments. 1223 01:15:28,270 --> 01:15:30,710 So, if you're ready, then let's do it. 1224 01:15:31,090 --> 01:15:34,250 I'm open to it. Hey, I wouldn't be here if I didn't trust you. 1225 01:15:39,090 --> 01:15:40,630 Like, bleeding for no reason. 1226 01:15:42,410 --> 01:15:45,030 But the one day we're all white, it was bleeding. 1227 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,080 You nervous? 1228 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,260 You can't be bringing the nervous energy and it'll affect the results. 1229 01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:03,840 Hi, Jesse. Hey, Cedric. Welcome to IONS. How are you? Thank you. Thanks for 1230 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,400 doing this. This is Michael, too, by the way. Nice to meet you. I'm Cedric. I 1231 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,780 thought he could be doing some of the experiments with us. Sure, of course. No 1232 01:16:10,780 --> 01:16:13,180 problem. Cool. Well, are you guys ready to go see the lab? 1233 01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:14,779 Oh, it's not here. 1234 01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:16,940 It's downstairs, yeah. These are the offices. 1235 01:16:17,470 --> 01:16:20,050 Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, we're here. 1236 01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:22,790 We're a little nervous, honestly. 1237 01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:25,690 Don't worry. You'll be safe. 1238 01:16:28,710 --> 01:16:31,450 So you actually believe in this stuff? 1239 01:16:32,210 --> 01:16:37,190 Well, I believe in the scientific method, and we do see significant 1240 01:16:37,530 --> 01:16:41,130 And I do believe people's subjective experiences. 1241 01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:43,870 But it's definitely a hard question to answer. 1242 01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:46,670 Yeah, very hard question, Mike. 1243 01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:53,430 What is this about? This is a look at a sixth sense through time, through all 1244 01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:54,430 the ages. 1245 01:16:54,570 --> 01:16:55,630 People that can heal. 1246 01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:58,570 This book's not even in English. 1247 01:16:59,430 --> 01:17:00,430 I can't read this. 1248 01:17:02,050 --> 01:17:05,410 Every single one of these books is on consciousness, parapsychology, 1249 01:17:05,550 --> 01:17:08,850 precognition. So you can't tell me there's not something here or else 1250 01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:11,570 wouldn't have dedicated hundreds of years of research. 1251 01:17:12,710 --> 01:17:14,150 Imagine writing a book this big. 1252 01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:16,930 I don't even want to read a book that big. 1253 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,440 The Memoirs of a Psychic Spy. Yeah, and then they got remote viewers. 1254 01:17:21,140 --> 01:17:24,800 Remote viewing? Where's that at? Eric Orgo is talking about Joe McMoneagle, 1255 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,440 Remote Viewer 001. 1256 01:17:26,900 --> 01:17:29,980 They'd have him pick a spot in the world. 1257 01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:32,760 He'd see it and draw it, photographic memory. 1258 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,220 And then they'd reveal the location, and then they'd look at it with the 1259 01:17:37,220 --> 01:17:39,320 picture. It's a perfect match. Is that real? 1260 01:17:39,620 --> 01:17:41,200 Yeah. Yeah. This happened? 1261 01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:45,520 100%. This is a real thing. They ran, it was Operation Stargate. They ran it for 1262 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,520 like 20, 30 years. 1263 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,340 And they had success with it, and then they shut it down. 1264 01:17:49,780 --> 01:17:52,800 Why would they shut it down? Well, the theory is that it's still going, but 1265 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,800 more in secret now. 1266 01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:56,800 Weren't there, like, CIA documents that leaked when they were really working on 1267 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:57,800 this stuff? No, it's all public now. 1268 01:17:58,300 --> 01:17:59,900 It came out, like, five years ago. 1269 01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,620 I don't know. So you can even read it all for yourself. It's possible that's 1270 01:18:03,620 --> 01:18:07,660 just precognition. It's because they get exposed to the location, the future. 1271 01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:09,280 It just all keeps going back to it. 1272 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,360 Exactly. It is interesting. Like, maybe everything just boils down to 1273 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,360 precognition. 1274 01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:22,470 Like maybe that's love at first sight. Exactly. Maybe you just, when you feel 1275 01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:24,510 it, I feel like I know you. Right. 1276 01:18:25,130 --> 01:18:26,150 Well, you will. 1277 01:18:26,890 --> 01:18:27,890 That's interesting. 1278 01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:33,670 I'm a senior research associate at IONS. I've been here for about five years. We 1279 01:18:33,670 --> 01:18:34,670 have studied meditation, 1280 01:18:35,610 --> 01:18:40,510 altered states of consciousness, precognition, presentiment, telepathic 1281 01:18:40,510 --> 01:18:41,510 experiences, 1282 01:18:42,150 --> 01:18:45,630 remote viewing, all these phenomena that exist. 1283 01:18:46,670 --> 01:18:51,010 People may access information that transcends space and time, that there 1284 01:18:51,010 --> 01:18:52,710 more to reality than we think. 1285 01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:54,290 Why? I'm not saying anything. 1286 01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:59,130 And this goes back to decades ago with the double slit experiment. 1287 01:18:59,630 --> 01:19:00,630 I'm convinced. 1288 01:19:00,730 --> 01:19:05,850 My favorite topic is pre -sentimental precognition, mainly because I feel like 1289 01:19:05,850 --> 01:19:08,150 it's the easiest to control scientifically. 1290 01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:09,709 The easiest? 1291 01:19:09,710 --> 01:19:15,130 Today we're going to use this headset called the Gallia, made by OpenBCI, a 1292 01:19:15,130 --> 01:19:16,210 headset that... 1293 01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:19,310 combines VR with electrophysiology. 1294 01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:24,950 And so we're going to use that to study how your body may have processes that 1295 01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:26,190 may predict car crashes. 1296 01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:28,510 I'm not going to get shocked, right? 1297 01:19:29,090 --> 01:19:32,110 No. Have you guys done tests where it is? 1298 01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:36,750 Because I've seen it seems like it's more linked towards the more emotional 1299 01:19:36,750 --> 01:19:40,090 response of the thing that gets precognized. 1300 01:19:40,910 --> 01:19:46,650 We did see an increase in the occipital regions, which is the visual regions, as 1301 01:19:46,650 --> 01:19:49,210 if the participants were seeing something. 1302 01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:54,270 And that was only 130 milliseconds before the image appeared. 1303 01:19:54,590 --> 01:19:55,690 130 milliseconds? 1304 01:19:55,950 --> 01:19:57,990 Yeah, that's very, very fast. 1305 01:19:58,310 --> 01:20:03,510 I mean, I feel like that's proof right there, right? I mean, if you go 130 1306 01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:07,970 milliseconds, then what's stopping you from doing more? 1307 01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:10,770 What do you mean? 1308 01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:11,910 Let's get this thing on Jesse. 1309 01:20:12,410 --> 01:20:13,790 They're passively recording. 1310 01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:15,450 Passively? Yeah. 1311 01:20:15,630 --> 01:20:17,170 Dude, it looks like a jigsaw trap. 1312 01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:18,510 See how it looks? 1313 01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:25,510 Who are the players in this space? 1314 01:20:26,210 --> 01:20:30,150 IONS has been their leader for a long time, generating the chief scientist 1315 01:20:30,150 --> 01:20:31,670 that's done most of the work. 1316 01:20:32,010 --> 01:20:33,170 Should we act like there was an accident? 1317 01:20:33,670 --> 01:20:35,130 Yeah, like once every... 1318 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,940 It's not that crazy. 1319 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,520 Right, right. 1320 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,540 So I don't scream and throw it off my head, right? 1321 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,640 Yeah, kind of like you just saw. Right, okay, yeah. 1322 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,080 It doesn't matter too much. Whatever's on your mind. 1323 01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:52,160 So this, like, proves what? 1324 01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:58,380 You can mirror activity from the future to the past. What time? Let go. 1325 01:20:58,820 --> 01:21:00,600 I've seen enough. There's nothing here, dude. 1326 01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:04,340 It's no disrespect. 1327 01:21:05,020 --> 01:21:06,940 I just don't. What do you want to know? 1328 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,080 Nothing moves here. 1329 01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:11,500 I got to go. 1330 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,880 Can you wait? Hold on. 1331 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,540 Do you have anything? 1332 01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:20,940 I feel like I'm a burden of this. I got to go. No, no. I think it's fine. 1333 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,480 Michael, what's your take on a drug that's commonly taken or, for example, a 1334 01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:28,480 COVID vaccine? 1335 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,600 Are you convinced it is efficient? 1336 01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:34,170 Because you took the vaccine, right? I took the vaccine. 1337 01:21:34,410 --> 01:21:36,450 Yeah. I got COVID. I'm alive. 1338 01:21:37,230 --> 01:21:41,970 So if you look at the reports, the science that validated the Pfizer 1339 01:21:42,090 --> 01:21:48,270 for example, they had a confidence level of 95%. And that allowed the vaccine to 1340 01:21:48,270 --> 01:21:50,270 be released to the world safely. 1341 01:21:51,330 --> 01:21:56,550 And they had, for example... I agree. I like it. Yeah. 1342 01:21:56,810 --> 01:22:00,530 So the 95%. 95 % confidence. 1343 01:22:01,370 --> 01:22:02,370 No, 1344 01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:05,910 it's good. It's good. Okay. You took the vaccine, Mike. 1345 01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:07,130 Yeah. 1346 01:22:07,310 --> 01:22:10,570 Knowing it was 95%, but you're not willing to take the pre -sentiment 1347 01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:13,490 which was that at 95%. It's different research, Jesse. 1348 01:22:13,790 --> 01:22:15,610 Have you done dream -related studies? 1349 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:19,410 Right. As, like, people dream, yeah, like, say, dreaming specifically, or, 1350 01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:20,450 visions and things? 1351 01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:24,270 That would be Julianne Musbridge, maybe. I haven't personally. 1352 01:22:24,730 --> 01:22:27,710 I mean, I could talk about the data, but honestly, it's not convincing. 1353 01:22:27,950 --> 01:22:31,670 You all know that I believe that this is true and that the statistics stand by 1354 01:22:31,670 --> 01:22:35,710 it. But let me ask you, is there any particular statistical test you would 1355 01:22:35,710 --> 01:22:36,669 to believe this? 1356 01:22:36,670 --> 01:22:38,690 Or would you prefer personal experience? 1357 01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:42,150 Three quarters of the audience, personal experience. These are statisticians. 1358 01:22:42,150 --> 01:22:46,130 Their whole job is to draw conclusions from statistics. And what personal 1359 01:22:46,130 --> 01:22:49,130 experience do you feel like they were looking for? They need to have it 1360 01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:52,250 themselves. Everyone needs to have it themselves. And that's why I'm so 1361 01:22:52,250 --> 01:22:53,750 passionate about lifting the stigma. 1362 01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:58,900 Yeah. Because probably 80 to 85 % of people have had experiences like these. 1363 01:22:58,940 --> 01:23:04,100 Wow. Since I was a kid, I've been having very detailed predictive dreams. And I 1364 01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:09,120 started to take a dream journal down. They were so detailed and clear that I 1365 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,780 became convinced that this wasn't my unconscious mind. I was like a field 1366 01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:14,780 to be planted. 1367 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,380 So people who are particularly skilled at music, we notice as their children, 1368 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:21,980 and we say, hey, we're going to give you piano lessons, we're going to give you 1369 01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:25,960 voice lessons, you know, drum, whatever it is, right? With this kind of stuff, 1370 01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:29,940 there's stigma, there's concern, there's fear of the devil. So that if you're in 1371 01:23:29,940 --> 01:23:34,820 that top 3 % to 5%, you're more likely to shut that down. Is it a funding 1372 01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:36,640 Yeah, there's very little money in research. 1373 01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:41,120 You have to run a whole study, recruit all these participants, measure them, 1374 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,760 analyze the data, publish a manuscript, often pressured to have an effect. 1375 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,200 So there's a whole group of scientists and institutions that are trying to 1376 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,300 disprove what you have been doing? There are a few. 1377 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,560 You're not holding back? 1378 01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:58,140 No. Everyone's so careful because they have to be. 1379 01:23:58,440 --> 01:23:59,820 But I don't have to be. 1380 01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:04,960 Yeah, because, I mean, you're in this field. I decided to not pursue tenure 1381 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,700 -track academic positions at Tier 1 research institutions because I was told 1382 01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:11,920 take this off my resume if I wanted to pursue those. You were told to take what 1383 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,160 off? To take anything related to psychic stuff off of my resume. 1384 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,519 Psychic stuff? 1385 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,200 Yeah, yeah. And I said, no, thank you, because it's the most interesting stuff 1386 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,900 do. Are you kidding me? People can predict the future, and I can show that 1387 01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:28,880 scientifically? Not taking that off my resume, thank you. I'll just go do that. 1388 01:24:29,150 --> 01:24:32,490 Is this why we're at where we're at? They laughed at me. They laughed. 1389 01:24:32,910 --> 01:24:36,870 When she read, oh, I'm reading her resume more closely. She's done some 1390 01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:38,490 interesting stuff. And then people laugh. 1391 01:24:39,230 --> 01:24:43,250 I've always been really skilled at noticing how people are, how they carry 1392 01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:46,190 themselves, how they express themselves, their tone of voice. 1393 01:24:46,650 --> 01:24:51,530 And so when a teacher would say something and the words were wrapped in 1394 01:24:51,530 --> 01:24:56,330 and there was a little bit of a nudge or a nudge, nudge, wink, wink. 1395 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,780 Those people who believe in this. Right. 1396 01:24:59,060 --> 01:25:02,860 That tells you there's something there. There's a sense of there's truth there. 1397 01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:07,000 So they have to cover up the truth because there's this unknown thing that 1398 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,000 don't really understand. 1399 01:25:08,140 --> 01:25:09,440 Yeah. And that goes into shame. 1400 01:25:09,740 --> 01:25:14,480 So I've seen that cycle over and over again. And so you can pinpoint where in 1401 01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:20,100 the future there will be scientific revolutions based on where the shame is 1402 01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:22,540 Do you believe that precognition is real? 1403 01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:25,720 I've heard experiences that seem... 1404 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,680 Far from being possible by coincidence, but I don't know. We don't know. 1405 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,440 Well, if you had to pick a thought, like if you had to boil it down, like a yes 1406 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:39,080 or no, like do you believe, like what camp do you side? 1407 01:25:39,500 --> 01:25:42,960 I'm in the middle. Let's see. So if time's going this way, let's pretend 1408 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:43,960 linear. Ha, ha, ha. 1409 01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:50,180 So anyway, time's going this way in a line, and here's an event that occurs, 1410 01:25:50,180 --> 01:25:53,460 here's your prediction of the event, and that these are in relationship with 1411 01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:54,279 each other. 1412 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,180 I'm creating the loop with the film. 1413 01:25:56,440 --> 01:25:59,880 Yep. It's like nature's way of making things important. 1414 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,800 Right. And making connections that weren't there before. It's really 1415 01:26:04,180 --> 01:26:07,620 I think this is interwoven with the fabric of the universe, and it's 1416 01:26:07,940 --> 01:26:12,320 And so it just kind of lends itself to the case for meditation and being more 1417 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:13,340 relaxed. Oh, shit. 1418 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,220 Like 257. Oh, okay. All right. 1419 01:26:16,700 --> 01:26:18,000 Can we get a handheld? 1420 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,220 Is that it would be really valuable to try to figure out how to harness this. 1421 01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:25,100 wouldn't be the first country who tried to do that. Do you think it's still 1422 01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,960 ongoing? I don't know enough to know. I don't have a security clearance right 1423 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,480 now. Do you think this is all precursor to developing some ability to navigate 1424 01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:34,800 through time differently? 1425 01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:36,500 Why, yes, I do. 1426 01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:40,640 You do? Yeah. I call that informational time travel, and that's what I work on 1427 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,240 now is how can we send ourselves a message from the future? That would be 1428 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:48,620 useful. Is there anything I can do to channel that further? Yes, so 1429 01:26:48,620 --> 01:26:53,440 unconditional love. So self -transcended experiences where you're connected with 1430 01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:54,440 something larger than yourself. 1431 01:26:54,860 --> 01:26:59,120 Being in a state of unconditional love, I've shown in two studies now that that 1432 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,340 actually increases accuracy in terms of receiving information from the future. 1433 01:27:04,540 --> 01:27:06,260 So just removing the filters. 1434 01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:07,700 I've got to go. 1435 01:27:07,940 --> 01:27:10,900 What does unconditional love do? 1436 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,120 Unconditional love, which is really... 1437 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,240 Loving without the need for something to change. Like loving as is. 1438 01:27:17,900 --> 01:27:21,460 When you love something as is, you're also loving basically the calculation 1439 01:27:21,460 --> 01:27:22,460 the universe has made. 1440 01:27:22,740 --> 01:27:24,520 You're saying this is what's true. 1441 01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:25,860 Is there somewhere I can go? 1442 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,640 In here, buddy. 1443 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,920 I come all the way to Ion. 1444 01:27:30,940 --> 01:27:34,280 I come all the way to Ion trying to... Get out of here. 1445 01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:36,280 You don't think it's at Ion? 1446 01:27:36,540 --> 01:27:38,880 No. But sometimes you have to go places. 1447 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,020 Sometimes God takes you places so that you can go home. 1448 01:27:44,740 --> 01:27:46,000 Yeah, I gotta go 1449 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:55,880 What's 1450 01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:01,060 with the YouTube videos that Mm -hmm. Was it like my youtube channel that the 1451 01:28:01,060 --> 01:28:06,200 higher -ups like to not give us enough time or The what sorry like my youtube 1452 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,980 channel was it that like do you like why they don't give you more time with us 1453 01:28:09,980 --> 01:28:16,960 or we get hundreds request every day and You know, we're such a tiny, we 1454 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,180 look like a big organization. 1455 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,260 We're like five scientists. 1456 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:26,440 It was surprising that, like, nobody else wanted to be interviewed. 1457 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,420 Yeah, they're very, very busy people. 1458 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:31,360 And it's not personal. 1459 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:37,220 We have stuff currently that hasn't come true yet that we're, you know. 1460 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:38,980 Anticipating. I had one hand. 1461 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,160 Die next year. 1462 01:28:42,660 --> 01:28:43,660 Heart attack. 1463 01:28:45,470 --> 01:28:48,670 So how would it help if we had an answer? 1464 01:28:49,570 --> 01:28:53,810 Would it help, do you think it would help you cope with the stress of it? 1465 01:28:54,010 --> 01:28:56,830 Because it wouldn't prevent his death if that was going to happen. 1466 01:28:57,230 --> 01:29:00,190 I don't know, I told you this when my mom dreamt. 1467 01:29:01,030 --> 01:29:06,950 She saw a death certificate and it was in a car on a bridge in the 2020s. So 1468 01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:08,950 like now we're here and it's just like I'm deaf. 1469 01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:11,990 Do you guys do sleep studies? 1470 01:29:13,220 --> 01:29:18,040 We are doing one currently on lucid dreaming that's very exploratory. 1471 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,980 I'll do whatever you guys want me to do. 1472 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:27,060 Well, yeah, this one's just completed and I'm sorry. Whenever, whenever. 1473 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,840 We'll let you know. Whenever. Sure. 1474 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,000 Because I thought, you know, with you guys being the premier researchers, that 1475 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:38,840 there'd be something more for me to solve some of the things that I've dealt 1476 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,840 with in my life. 1477 01:29:42,540 --> 01:29:43,660 It's been haunting me. 1478 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,000 That's what's driven me out here to Ion since I wanted to talk with somebody who 1479 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,320 knew, you know, what was going on. 1480 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,940 Scared the hell out of me knowing that, like, you guys are the premier spot and 1481 01:29:55,940 --> 01:29:56,940 you don't know. 1482 01:29:58,940 --> 01:30:00,760 You know, when his dad was going to die. 1483 01:30:01,820 --> 01:30:02,840 He wrote it down. 1484 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,620 He wrote it down. And I knew people that I didn't. 1485 01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,060 Complete strangers to me when they were going to die. 1486 01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:11,480 I don't want to have these experiences anymore. 1487 01:30:12,140 --> 01:30:14,680 I've had hundreds of experiences that this film's all about. 1488 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,480 And I just need to find out what the fuck is going on. 1489 01:30:23,220 --> 01:30:26,800 Well, you might talk to some of my colleagues that have better answers. I 1490 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,760 I didn't come all this way. I live out here. It's like $25 ,000. 1491 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,000 It's a lot of money. 1492 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,240 Try to get something. 1493 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,220 And I got my reputation on the line, you know. 1494 01:30:39,740 --> 01:30:41,760 We're trying to do something real with this documentary. 1495 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,320 And it's hard when we're doing experiments. 1496 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,660 Like, I thought we were going to do real experiments here. But I put the helmet 1497 01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:49,660 on, and there was nothing. 1498 01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,280 I told you what we were going to do. 1499 01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:57,220 It's hard because I want people to trust us. And, like, this is a real struggle. 1500 01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,660 And provide, like, some sort of validity to this space. 1501 01:31:03,380 --> 01:31:06,220 And then we come here, and you were 90 minutes late in the first day. 1502 01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:07,800 And you're late today. 1503 01:31:08,420 --> 01:31:11,900 And we try to do experiments, and we talk for months. Are you serious? 1504 01:31:12,220 --> 01:31:18,000 Yeah. I told you. It hurts. It hurts me. I put so much in. My supervisor gave me 1505 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,680 three hours today for you, and I. 1506 01:31:21,070 --> 01:31:25,450 because you were motivated, and I believe in your cause, I give you two 1507 01:31:25,490 --> 01:31:29,790 And, yes, I told you you had personal emergencies going on. People come to us 1508 01:31:29,790 --> 01:31:33,130 for validity, and that's not what we do. So that's on you. I'm sorry. 1509 01:31:33,390 --> 01:31:36,850 We don't validate people's experiences. We try to understand them with our 1510 01:31:36,850 --> 01:31:39,070 scientific tools, and if it's not enough for you. 1511 01:32:03,559 --> 01:32:05,600 I'm dropping the bomb here. 1512 01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:12,980 That happens all the time. I didn't realize it was in 1513 01:32:12,980 --> 01:32:18,100 that kind of place where they think scientists can... 1514 01:32:18,620 --> 01:32:23,480 of their life and let them cope with death and their experiences. 1515 01:32:27,740 --> 01:32:32,980 If it's getting on camera that Michael's going to die in one year and it 1516 01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:36,800 happens, I mean, that's better proof than science to me. 1517 01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:40,420 Ugh, hey. 1518 01:32:42,340 --> 01:32:45,280 I'm sorry, but I look like a fucking idiot out there. 1519 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,520 Hey, you keep looking, man. That's it. 1520 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:50,380 Just keep looking, Jess. 1521 01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,100 This was the top. 1522 01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:53,660 The answers ain't here. They gotta be somewhere. 1523 01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:54,938 We're not alone. 1524 01:32:54,940 --> 01:32:56,560 There can't be just two of us in the world. 1525 01:32:57,060 --> 01:32:58,060 There's people. 1526 01:32:58,300 --> 01:32:59,740 Other people have this too, man. 1527 01:33:00,620 --> 01:33:01,620 Come on, man. 1528 01:33:01,700 --> 01:33:04,540 I love you. I appreciate you coming out here. I didn't think you'd come. I 1529 01:33:04,540 --> 01:33:05,540 didn't think you'd come out here. 1530 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,160 I didn't think I was either. 1531 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,680 But if you want to go, I understand, you know. 1532 01:33:12,900 --> 01:33:14,120 Bro, I'm just... 1533 01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:17,360 I'm glad to spend time with you, man. 1534 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:18,720 No, it's been good. 1535 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,200 You got your family. 1536 01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:22,080 This is my journey. 1537 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,580 I appreciate you coming all the way. That's the answers, bro. That's all we 1538 01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:27,580 need. I know. 1539 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,340 That's it. I'll go in and do whatever I need to do. 1540 01:33:32,300 --> 01:33:33,300 That's what I've always done. 1541 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:35,940 So I appreciate you, man. 1542 01:33:36,740 --> 01:33:38,360 Your mom's going to be fine, man. 1543 01:33:38,660 --> 01:33:41,020 Don't even think about that. She's like the best person, bro. 1544 01:33:41,300 --> 01:33:43,220 That's the scariest part. 1545 01:33:45,540 --> 01:33:46,540 That's always how it works. 1546 01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:51,860 You already know you can change it, Jess. You already did. 1547 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,120 I try not to use that one example, though. 1548 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:01,780 Maybe you're right. I don't know. 1549 01:34:22,570 --> 01:34:23,570 Hi, Jesse. 1550 01:34:24,990 --> 01:34:25,990 Yeah? 1551 01:34:26,430 --> 01:34:27,550 What are you doing here? 1552 01:34:28,630 --> 01:34:30,910 You know, you should throw one of your LAN parties. 1553 01:34:31,790 --> 01:34:33,010 We don't hang out enough. 1554 01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:35,870 We can't hang out. 1555 01:34:36,710 --> 01:34:38,190 You died five years ago. 1556 01:34:39,370 --> 01:34:41,830 Of course we can hang out. We can hang out right now. 1557 01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:43,530 Play some jailbreak. 1558 01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:45,030 Do some tree climbing. 1559 01:34:48,170 --> 01:34:51,670 I hadn't seen you in like seven years. 1560 01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:56,530 I'm on a whim. I decided to get food. And there you were. 1561 01:34:58,130 --> 01:34:59,490 I'm so happy to see you. 1562 01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:02,330 Hoist me up off the ground. 1563 01:35:03,790 --> 01:35:05,610 You're always larger than life, Scott. 1564 01:35:06,910 --> 01:35:11,030 And later that night, you died of an overdose. 1565 01:35:12,050 --> 01:35:15,090 You always question everything, don't you, Jesse? 1566 01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:18,230 Hey there, yum yum. 1567 01:35:19,190 --> 01:35:22,030 Didn't think your fat uncle could catch your candy ass. 1568 01:35:22,270 --> 01:35:23,270 Let me stand still. 1569 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,040 Yeah? Well, you keep pushing me with these damn videos, I'll have a heart 1570 01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,040 attack. 1571 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:31,840 I can't be here. 1572 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,440 The hell I can't. 1573 01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:38,240 I can be wherever I want to be, asswipe. You don't understand. 1574 01:35:38,700 --> 01:35:42,040 Hey, we're not as dumb as you make us out to be. 1575 01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:45,860 You're my nephew, Jesse. I'd do anything for you. 1576 01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:50,800 Oh, Jesus, don't start crying, you freaking douchebag. 1577 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,760 You know, you almost had me with that one video where you gave your dad the 1578 01:36:02,340 --> 01:36:06,620 You ought to make a video from when I tried to come to the house and you were 1579 01:36:06,620 --> 01:36:08,600 all paranoid about getting COVID. 1580 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:11,600 You died of COVID. 1581 01:36:13,780 --> 01:36:14,780 Yeah. 1582 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:20,420 Well, we all got to go sometime, right? 1583 01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,880 Hey. 1584 01:36:23,839 --> 01:36:26,500 Don't leave your poor grandmother waiting too long. 1585 01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:28,140 What? 1586 01:36:39,420 --> 01:36:41,120 I'm sorry to come to the hospital. 1587 01:36:42,340 --> 01:36:43,340 It's okay. 1588 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,320 I didn't know. 1589 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,880 Yeah, I know. The dream. 1590 01:36:48,460 --> 01:36:49,660 A pretty thick one. 1591 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:51,920 You guys are all dead. 1592 01:36:53,580 --> 01:36:54,580 Try not to remember. 1593 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,480 It doesn't always have to be so bad. 1594 01:36:58,460 --> 01:37:00,920 Yeah, well, life hasn't been the same since you all passed. 1595 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,020 You were my favorite person, Grandma. 1596 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,500 I'm not your grandma. 1597 01:37:08,940 --> 01:37:09,940 But... 1598 01:38:14,890 --> 01:38:18,370 I'd be lying if I said I wasn't defeated right now. Got my tail between my legs 1599 01:38:18,370 --> 01:38:19,450 coming back to South Jersey. 1600 01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:24,310 I feel like a loser right now. So not much I can do, but maybe confront some 1601 01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:25,310 the old dreams of the past. 1602 01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:37,950 That's dope, man. 1603 01:38:39,870 --> 01:38:43,210 We got to be quick. We're shooting. We're shooting right now. We're shooting 1604 01:38:43,210 --> 01:38:44,210 right now. 1605 01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:56,659 Hi, Joan. 1606 01:38:56,660 --> 01:38:57,660 Hey, Jess. 1607 01:38:57,860 --> 01:38:58,860 How's it going? 1608 01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,100 How you doing? Pretty good. Been a long time. 1609 01:39:02,380 --> 01:39:03,800 Very long time, yeah. 1610 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:07,360 You doing all right? 1611 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,140 I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Good to see you. 1612 01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:11,360 You too. 1613 01:39:11,700 --> 01:39:14,180 It's been, uh, like ten years. 1614 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,040 That long? 1615 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:21,420 Yeah. Been kind of going back through my past, trying to get different stories. 1616 01:39:21,740 --> 01:39:24,700 Do you ever remember me telling you any dreams I've had? 1617 01:39:25,180 --> 01:39:26,099 About you? 1618 01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,860 Yes, I certainly do remember that. 1619 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,020 What do you remember from it? 1620 01:39:31,540 --> 01:39:34,780 Well, I remember you came in and you said, I've got to tell you some news. 1621 01:39:34,780 --> 01:39:36,000 of it's good, some of it's bad. 1622 01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:38,300 What do you want to hear first? It must be bad. 1623 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,800 No, I didn't think it was. No? Really? No, head -on crash, coming around the 1624 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:43,800 curve, coming to work. 1625 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:46,360 Then me dying. 1626 01:39:47,020 --> 01:39:50,120 And then you told me the good stuff, that the angel came down, picked me up, 1627 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:51,120 took me upstairs. 1628 01:39:51,300 --> 01:39:53,740 I don't remember that part. So I'm happy. That's what you told me. You said 1629 01:39:53,740 --> 01:39:54,740 angel came down. 1630 01:39:55,160 --> 01:40:00,260 And was taking me up on that curve. I always had attention to make sure 1631 01:40:00,260 --> 01:40:01,700 nothing's coming head on to me. 1632 01:40:02,140 --> 01:40:05,940 And which way would I go? And so it was very easy. You saved my life. 1633 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,560 You really did. 1634 01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:11,260 I cried. I didn't know. You know, I said, boy, it was, you know, it was that 1635 01:40:11,260 --> 01:40:16,380 close. It was really close. And the trucker never stopped. He just came 1636 01:40:16,380 --> 01:40:17,119 and called. 1637 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,740 I noticed they're still like that. Yeah, I know. Coming around here. Yeah. 1638 01:40:20,380 --> 01:40:21,400 Why did you listen? 1639 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:22,680 I feel like it would be crazy. 1640 01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:25,280 Because I believe in that kind of stuff. 1641 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:27,720 I do. 1642 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,760 I believe things like that happen, that you get warnings. 1643 01:40:31,540 --> 01:40:33,220 Did I ever tell you about other dreams I had? 1644 01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:34,660 Joe Barca. 1645 01:40:36,140 --> 01:40:39,500 Yeah. Do you remember what it was? Our barber in town, yeah. 1646 01:40:40,060 --> 01:40:46,660 Yeah, I had a dream that a man in a suit just said, your barber's going to die. 1647 01:40:46,780 --> 01:40:51,980 Your barber's going to die. It was literally the next day that Joe Barca 1648 01:40:51,980 --> 01:40:52,980 heart attack. 1649 01:40:53,819 --> 01:40:56,220 Yeah, but he didn't die. 1650 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,200 From the heart attack? 1651 01:40:59,740 --> 01:41:03,840 I think it was a couple years later. He lived to 103. 1652 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:06,280 Joe Barca. 1653 01:41:06,780 --> 01:41:10,040 And had COVID, and that's what took him. He died of COVID? 1654 01:41:10,260 --> 01:41:11,260 Yeah. 1655 01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,800 Well, that just throws everything off for me. 1656 01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:16,060 Well. 1657 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,880 I've been basing all of this, we call it precognition also. 1658 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,600 Those dreams like you were like my third or fourth one and that one was the 1659 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,820 first one that kicked it off And I was like the next day like but you're 1660 01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:35,420 me he didn't die. Oh Now 1661 01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:41,120 I'm gonna look like I'm full The 1662 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:47,540 barbershop still open yeah juniors over there Joe juniors doing the 1663 01:41:47,540 --> 01:41:48,740 cutting yeah 1664 01:41:50,380 --> 01:41:51,620 I wonder how he would react. 1665 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,000 I know. How did you react? 1666 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,480 Well, I told myself I better watch out for a red tractor trailer coming because 1667 01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:00,100 I didn't want to meet that one yet. I wasn't ready. 1668 01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,520 But I think with Joe, it might disturb him, Junior. 1669 01:42:03,940 --> 01:42:06,580 Yeah. Yeah, I've been thinking maybe a little too much about it. 1670 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,760 Well, so then turn it off. 1671 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,120 Yeah. 1672 01:42:13,420 --> 01:42:14,420 Easier said than done. 1673 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,880 Seems like the more spiritual people have more of an understanding than the 1674 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,800 scientists. As it relates to that stuff? 1675 01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:25,280 Yeah, the scientists, they have no idea. 1676 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,380 So you think it would be a God thing? 1677 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:28,800 Oh, definitely. 1678 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:31,500 I don't think it's the devil. 1679 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,820 You don't think the man in the suit who's in my dreams is the devil? 1680 01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:41,560 When you go to sleep, think about something, really good times or 1681 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:42,560 that. 1682 01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:47,090 Or keep telling yourself, I can't keep doing this because it's going to make me 1683 01:42:47,090 --> 01:42:49,450 crazy, and my whole life is going to lose everything. 1684 01:42:49,870 --> 01:42:53,750 I feel like I already am. Oh, I know. I know. I feel like I'm losing it a little 1685 01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:54,770 bit. You look haunted to me. 1686 01:42:58,430 --> 01:42:59,690 I can see it in your eyes. 1687 01:43:04,910 --> 01:43:07,210 So we're at Evan Higgins' apartment right now. 1688 01:43:07,610 --> 01:43:10,930 He thinks we're here just to interview him for the car accident he was in many 1689 01:43:10,930 --> 01:43:14,390 years ago. I don't feel good about sort of stretching the truth in that regard, 1690 01:43:14,570 --> 01:43:17,950 but I thought there's really no easy way to say, hey, I dreamt you would be 1691 01:43:17,950 --> 01:43:18,950 paralyzed. 1692 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:27,190 Thanks for sitting down with me, Evan. 1693 01:43:28,150 --> 01:43:31,310 It's probably a little weird because would you say we were friends in high 1694 01:43:31,310 --> 01:43:32,770 school or how would you? 1695 01:43:33,770 --> 01:43:37,970 I mean, I knew you. I was in a tennis team with you, and I was in, like, one 1696 01:43:37,970 --> 01:43:38,970 two classes. Were you JV? 1697 01:43:39,290 --> 01:43:42,130 I don't even know if I made JV. 1698 01:43:42,910 --> 01:43:45,630 We were, like, in the branch below that. Yeah. 1699 01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:49,350 JJV. I didn't play professionally or anything, like, competition -wise. 1700 01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:55,070 I wanted to talk to you because you had a traumatic brain injury. That was in 1701 01:43:55,070 --> 01:43:56,070 high school, right? 1702 01:43:56,110 --> 01:43:57,570 Yeah, I was a senior in high school. 1703 01:43:57,850 --> 01:43:58,850 I was driving. 1704 01:43:59,690 --> 01:44:05,310 An unfamiliar road, and I got T -boned when I was crossing the intersection. 1705 01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:08,490 They had to remove both sides of my skull. 1706 01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:13,860 to allow my brain to swell. I was in a coma for 24, 48 hours, around that time. 1707 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:18,100 And then I had no skull bone for 12 weeks. I had to relearn every single 1708 01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:21,060 in my life. One plus one, eat, sleep, bathroom. 1709 01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:24,420 I was in a wheelchair for several months. 1710 01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:29,260 So the accident was over 10 years ago, yet it still affects you today. 1711 01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,180 Yeah, so brain injury is going to basically make me disabled for the rest 1712 01:44:33,180 --> 01:44:36,820 life. Do you feel like that the accident was always going to happen? 1713 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,520 Um, no, I don't think that really was the case. 1714 01:44:42,460 --> 01:44:46,100 So... You feel like you had a choice? 1715 01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,060 Um, a choice as in what? 1716 01:44:49,820 --> 01:44:51,360 To not get into the accident? 1717 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,760 Or do you feel like it just had to play itself out? 1718 01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:58,300 I mean, I didn't... The stop sign was, like, moved a little bit, so I wasn't 1719 01:44:58,300 --> 01:45:00,280 able to see it. Brett, do you wish you could go back? 1720 01:45:00,700 --> 01:45:05,380 So, those kind of questions kind of came initially when I was, like, in the 1721 01:45:05,380 --> 01:45:06,980 hospital, but... 1722 01:45:08,270 --> 01:45:12,950 I just figured, you know, it happened. I got to move on. I'm very glad about 1723 01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:16,110 where I'm at in life because I'm able to be very independent. 1724 01:45:16,330 --> 01:45:18,410 I have my own apartment. I work. I drive. 1725 01:45:19,450 --> 01:45:23,070 Everything's good, I mean, to an extent. But there are other people, there are 1726 01:45:23,070 --> 01:45:25,750 other parts of the brain whereโ€” Can I share something with you? 1727 01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:26,990 Yeah, sure. 1728 01:45:27,950 --> 01:45:28,970 Because I have some regrets. 1729 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,860 That's something I haven't told you about, like, why I really wanted to come 1730 01:45:40,860 --> 01:45:41,860 talk to you. 1731 01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:48,320 I had a dream before it happened. 1732 01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:59,920 I was in the gymnasium at school, and I saw you in the distance, and I noticed 1733 01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:05,120 a light fixture in the ceiling, loose. 1734 01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,000 And suddenly it just fell. 1735 01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:10,980 And you were directly under it. 1736 01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:14,980 And it crushed you. 1737 01:46:16,220 --> 01:46:21,740 And I was like, Jesus, I don't think he's going to make it out of that. 1738 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,280 And so I walked over to your body. 1739 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,680 You were fully crushed and your legs. 1740 01:46:37,770 --> 01:46:38,810 The legs were pinned. 1741 01:46:40,190 --> 01:46:41,830 And I remember they were also flailing. 1742 01:46:42,370 --> 01:46:43,410 And then they were still. 1743 01:46:46,090 --> 01:46:51,830 When I looked at it in a dream, I thought, Evan's paralyzed. 1744 01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:58,590 And then I would see you walking around gym every school day. 1745 01:46:59,030 --> 01:47:01,970 And I thought, should I tell him about this dream? 1746 01:47:02,190 --> 01:47:05,170 Because up until that point, I had other dreams of people dying and they've come 1747 01:47:05,170 --> 01:47:07,050 true. Other crazy things. 1748 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,120 Bad things happening, and that's what this film's really about. 1749 01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:13,600 Okay. I regret not telling you one of those days. 1750 01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:18,120 At least a few weeks, maybe a month, before the accident happened. 1751 01:47:18,540 --> 01:47:25,340 Then I wondered, well, if I just told Evan, maybe, as weird as it was, maybe 1752 01:47:25,340 --> 01:47:28,320 something in your brain would click, and for some reason, you just wouldn't have 1753 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,820 gotten into the accident. Like a warning, a premonition. 1754 01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,060 Um... Um... 1755 01:47:38,830 --> 01:47:45,330 The fact that you're envisioning legs and stuff too, that's definitely 1756 01:47:45,330 --> 01:47:50,470 very chilling, I guess you can best say. 1757 01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:53,970 Have you spoken to a medical professional about that? 1758 01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:55,790 Yeah, this is my therapy. 1759 01:47:56,270 --> 01:48:02,010 Okay. I have no regrets in my life of what happened, so everything's good. I 1760 01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:02,969 mean, you're fine. 1761 01:48:02,970 --> 01:48:05,050 I'll take it. I can't really... 1762 01:48:05,610 --> 01:48:08,470 Imagine how you're feeling. It's a big weight on your shoulder that you have to 1763 01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:10,370 decide to save someone's life. 1764 01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:14,650 Honestly, I would not have known how I would have reacted if this happened 1765 01:48:14,650 --> 01:48:19,530 months prior. So I can't imagine myself living in a bubble, especially at 17, 1766 01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:24,410 where... I did not think it would be this hard. 1767 01:48:24,810 --> 01:48:30,230 These are multiple letters from Joe Barca himself, even one from us to Joe 1768 01:48:30,230 --> 01:48:31,230 that we never sent. 1769 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,400 This is our most recent letter. Mr. Jesse, I would like to thank you for the 1770 01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,500 fruit and nuts gift package you presented to me. Thank you, thank you 1771 01:48:39,500 --> 01:48:42,720 bottom of my heart. My wife Marie is enjoying it. Also, to the utmost. 1772 01:48:43,020 --> 01:48:43,978 Try calling him. 1773 01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:48,100 My, our Lord and Savior, richly blessed for your thoughtfulness. I am feeling a 1774 01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:50,780 little better after my horrible accident on Willow Grove Road. 1775 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:55,260 State police arrived, EMT. The utility pole landed on top of my rented car. 1776 01:48:55,620 --> 01:48:59,360 I've been in a lot of pain the last 18 days, not sleeping at all, many. 1777 01:49:00,170 --> 01:49:04,790 It has been very, very difficult, but I trust God that someday I will be healed. 1778 01:49:05,010 --> 01:49:10,530 I am an old man living in my 75th year on this earth. I am not well, he's 1779 01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:15,690 underlined. My good man, Jesse, looking forward to your filming on October 17th 1780 01:49:15,690 --> 01:49:19,190 at my shop along with meeting your film crew. I think, sir, you will be 1781 01:49:19,190 --> 01:49:21,650 impressed. I hear the TV turn off from the inside. 1782 01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:25,310 Somebody's clearly in there. They gave me a cell phone number. You can hear it 1783 01:49:25,310 --> 01:49:26,990 ring from inside the house. 1784 01:49:31,210 --> 01:49:35,990 The craziest thing is the day that we were to go interview Joe Barca is the 1785 01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:36,990 that I blacked out. 1786 01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:44,410 I was sick for at least a week and a half. 1787 01:49:45,770 --> 01:49:50,630 I ended up blacking out and falling in the bathroom floor. I had a fever of 1788 01:49:50,630 --> 01:49:52,670 103 degrees for four or five nights. 1789 01:49:52,970 --> 01:49:57,250 So I got COVID, and it was given to me by Michael at the lab in San Francisco. 1790 01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,460 I feel like it all could have been avoided, but of course not, because I 1791 01:50:00,460 --> 01:50:02,120 precogged it like three weeks prior. 1792 01:50:02,460 --> 01:50:04,840 Yeah, I had a dream a few weeks ago or something. 1793 01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:07,060 You got COVID. 1794 01:50:08,180 --> 01:50:13,020 Found it very odd, like a full circle, weird synchronicity that Barka blacks 1795 01:50:13,020 --> 01:50:17,320 when we're trying to interview him. And then the day we finally have him, I 1796 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:18,320 black out. 1797 01:50:19,780 --> 01:50:22,460 For some reason, we're just stuck. 1798 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:25,400 Stuck together in time. 1799 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,500 Hi, Joe. It's Jesse Ridgway. 1800 01:51:26,180 --> 01:51:28,020 I came by the barbershop. 1801 01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:31,500 Wanted to see if you were ready to be interviewed for our film. 1802 01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:36,900 I was over to the house. I left you a letter. Please give me a call back. 1803 01:51:37,460 --> 01:51:38,460 Thanks. Bye. 1804 01:51:39,380 --> 01:51:45,180 Sometimes I wake at night and watch the rain fall 1805 01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:47,380 through the streetlight. 1806 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:57,280 You're standing still in my mind, fading out, 1807 01:51:57,740 --> 01:51:59,700 waving goodbye. 1808 01:52:01,060 --> 01:52:06,500 And I wonder where you are tonight. 1809 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:12,480 If the one you're with was a compromise. 1810 01:52:14,060 --> 01:52:18,740 You're walking light in parallel. 1811 01:52:26,949 --> 01:52:29,850 Hey, Pixie, how many times do we got to do this? 1812 01:52:30,530 --> 01:52:31,530 What do you mean? 1813 01:52:31,890 --> 01:52:33,970 How about so you don't care? 1814 01:52:34,350 --> 01:52:38,370 Of course I care. I'm sitting here by myself taking care of everything. 1815 01:52:42,370 --> 01:52:49,070 Sometimes I'm overcome by every choice I 1816 01:52:49,070 --> 01:52:50,330 couldn't outrun. 1817 01:52:54,830 --> 01:52:56,910 The junctions all disappear. 1818 01:52:57,770 --> 01:53:03,530 You can't double back to your summer years. 1819 01:53:04,170 --> 01:53:09,590 And I wonder where you are tonight. 1820 01:53:10,490 --> 01:53:15,570 If the one you're with was a compromise 1821 01:53:15,570 --> 01:53:19,210 to your walking life. 1822 01:53:28,110 --> 01:53:34,850 And I wonder where you are tonight. 1823 01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:41,090 If what you did was a compromise, 1824 01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:47,110 could our walking lives be parallel? 1825 01:53:48,050 --> 01:53:54,110 But we'll never be as just as well, 1826 01:53:54,330 --> 01:53:56,150 just as right. 1827 01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:37,880 And I wonder where you are tonight. 1828 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:43,840 If the one you're with was a compromise. 1829 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:50,220 We're walking lives in parallel. 1830 01:54:51,740 --> 01:54:53,800 We'll never meet. 1831 01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,940 And it's just as well. 1832 01:55:15,050 --> 01:55:17,850 Thank you. 1833 01:55:35,710 --> 01:55:39,010 Rolling. We just passed Barca. He's way in the distance. 1834 01:55:39,330 --> 01:55:42,590 Either he turns left to go into 40 or post office. 1835 01:55:42,970 --> 01:55:45,010 Probably those are the only two options that make sense. 1836 01:55:45,310 --> 01:55:46,310 No passing. 1837 01:55:46,410 --> 01:55:47,410 Fuck it. 1838 01:55:48,090 --> 01:55:49,090 Barca mode, baby. 1839 01:55:50,170 --> 01:55:52,090 Oh, is that the green car right there? 1840 01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:55,330 Yeah. It's leaving the post office. Oh, and there's Burroughs. And there's 1841 01:55:55,330 --> 01:55:56,330 Burroughs. What the fuck? 1842 01:55:57,790 --> 01:55:58,790 Oh. 1843 01:56:00,750 --> 01:56:01,750 Oh. 1844 01:56:02,530 --> 01:56:03,530 Joe. 1845 01:56:04,130 --> 01:56:05,130 Joe. 1846 01:56:05,980 --> 01:56:06,980 How's it going? 1847 01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:10,700 I want to talk to you. 1848 01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:13,100 Oh, he's pulling over. 1849 01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,260 Yeah, just stay in the car. 1850 01:56:16,900 --> 01:56:17,900 I'll walk up. 1851 01:56:18,340 --> 01:56:19,640 Hey, Joe. How's it going? 1852 01:56:23,540 --> 01:56:24,540 It's great to see you. 1853 01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:25,800 You doing well? 1854 01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:27,500 Fair. Fair, fair. 1855 01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,500 I don't think I'm interested in doing this. No? 1856 01:56:30,740 --> 01:56:32,240 I've thought about it and all that. 1857 01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:33,760 I'm not interested. 1858 01:56:34,830 --> 01:56:37,690 I don't want to be publicized and all that. 1859 01:56:37,970 --> 01:56:41,530 Is there anything I could do to... No, no, not really. I know you're having 1860 01:56:41,530 --> 01:56:45,830 trouble financially with the car accident and stuff. Maybe is there some 1861 01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:47,130 could cut you a check? 1862 01:56:47,450 --> 01:56:48,188 No, sir. 1863 01:56:48,190 --> 01:56:49,230 No, sir. I'm okay. 1864 01:56:49,550 --> 01:56:52,650 Because it seemed like you were down, it was like a couple weeks ago, in the 1865 01:56:52,650 --> 01:56:55,470 letter. You were excited to meet the crew and all that. 1866 01:56:55,710 --> 01:56:56,810 It was, but things have changed. 1867 01:56:57,070 --> 01:57:01,450 Things have changed. I just don't have the vision. I don't have the willpower. 1868 01:57:02,570 --> 01:57:05,190 I just don't want to do it. You put a lot of work in, man. 1869 01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:08,990 Yeah, thank you. You've done a lot for the community and your family. 1870 01:57:09,290 --> 01:57:14,010 Yeah, thank you. I hate to see you, you know, just down on yourself, you know? 1871 01:57:14,430 --> 01:57:15,670 I have to go. 1872 01:57:16,010 --> 01:57:16,909 Yeah, yeah. 1873 01:57:16,910 --> 01:57:20,790 Have a good day. Could I share something with you? Because I wanted to tell you 1874 01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:27,630 this. It was kind of weird for me. I had a dream one night that this man in the 1875 01:57:27,630 --> 01:57:28,630 suit. 1876 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:33,280 Told me, your barber's going to die. It was later that night your dad had a 1877 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:33,978 heart attack. 1878 01:57:33,980 --> 01:57:37,920 True, true. Yeah, how about that? That's something. Yeah, that's right. 1879 01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:42,840 But he didn't die from that. No, no, no, no. 1880 01:57:43,460 --> 01:57:44,860 He had two heart attacks. 1881 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,380 He didn't recover from that. He recovered. 1882 01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:52,100 That's weird, right? The dream with the... Right, right, right, right. 1883 01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:58,260 I've been sitting on that for 15 years, and I didn't know what to make of that. 1884 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:00,320 Have you ever had dreams? 1885 01:58:01,060 --> 01:58:04,440 Dreams? Yeah, occasionally at times. Yes, I do. Yes. 1886 01:58:04,820 --> 01:58:06,260 Has anything ever come true? 1887 01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,560 Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. 1888 01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:12,560 Any crazy ones? 1889 01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:14,520 Yeah, I've had a couple. 1890 01:58:14,740 --> 01:58:16,100 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1891 01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:18,640 Super interesting. 1892 01:58:18,820 --> 01:58:23,200 Right. I have to go. Yeah, yeah. God bless you, Joe. Keep your head up, man. 1893 01:58:23,380 --> 01:58:26,120 Yes, I will. Keep your head up. Thank you. Bye -bye. Bye. Thank you. 1894 01:58:29,290 --> 01:58:35,710 Yeah, I wish it went a little differently. 1895 01:58:43,450 --> 01:58:44,550 View doesn't get old. 1896 01:58:46,990 --> 01:58:49,950 If I'm ever going to get a vision, I would imagine it would be right here. 1897 01:58:51,530 --> 01:58:54,910 I just don't spend enough time stopping and smelling the roses. I'm always 1898 01:58:54,910 --> 01:58:55,910 moving so fast. 1899 01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,140 Half the time I feel like I could just slow down. 1900 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:03,980 Maybe I'd start to see more. 1901 01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:06,940 Definitely would start to appreciate more. 1902 01:59:11,180 --> 01:59:12,540 Especially if I could turn everything off. 1903 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,340 Turn all the noise, all the voices in my head. 1904 01:59:18,900 --> 01:59:22,420 How are you going to ever see into the future if you can't even fully be 1905 01:59:22,420 --> 01:59:23,420 present? 1906 01:59:23,700 --> 01:59:25,680 I can't find the answers in a lab. 1907 01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:30,940 If I could go to a place that looks like this and try to go lucid and tap in, 1908 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,020 that seems a better option than anything else. 1909 01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:41,020 Staying the night at Serenity Ridge. 1910 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,960 It's like a retreat center, like as close to the monastery as I can get in 1911 01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:48,200 United States. I'm going to spend a night or two, however long it takes, and 1912 01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,740 maybe have some precognitive dreams. 1913 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:55,160 I'm about to talk to this one guy named Alejandro, who's, I guess it's like 1914 01:59:55,160 --> 02:00:00,480 Tibetan yoga instructor, but he's actually spent a lot of time with monks, 1915 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:03,600 might not be able to get the real thing. Or maybe he is one. I really don't 1916 02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:04,559 know. 1917 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,840 I'm trying not to be disrespectful. I just don't know enough about this kind 1918 02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:08,840 culture and stuff. 1919 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:09,880 I'm not religious. 1920 02:00:10,460 --> 02:00:14,620 I'm just a dude who's had dreams of future stuff happening. So, like, this 1921 02:00:14,620 --> 02:00:15,700 very weird for me. 1922 02:00:27,780 --> 02:00:34,140 And as you breathe in and out, allow that breath to expand your abdomen like 1923 02:00:34,140 --> 02:00:39,220 balloon, breathing in, breathing out, letting go. 1924 02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:47,880 You know, when we talk about dreams, we are less interested in 1925 02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:52,940 the story itself and more interested in who's dreaming. 1926 02:00:53,849 --> 02:01:00,310 this aspect of dreamlike world, do we recognize 1927 02:01:00,310 --> 02:01:04,030 that this is dreamlike too? 1928 02:01:04,530 --> 02:01:07,010 You know, this is... This is the dream. 1929 02:01:07,550 --> 02:01:08,790 It's not the dream. 1930 02:01:09,130 --> 02:01:15,810 It's a dream. It's a dream. This identity that we think we have, it's a 1931 02:01:16,170 --> 02:01:21,170 Has there been stories of the monks having visions, precognition? 1932 02:01:22,709 --> 02:01:25,690 When you say precognition, what do you mean? 1933 02:01:25,910 --> 02:01:28,130 Do they ever dream the future? 1934 02:01:29,550 --> 02:01:35,610 Yeah, you know, they don't talk much about it. I know, I mean, I've heard of 1935 02:01:35,610 --> 02:01:40,170 people having these kind of dreams, not only monks, I mean, people like you, 1936 02:01:40,270 --> 02:01:41,249 like others. 1937 02:01:41,250 --> 02:01:44,530 But then I've grappled with why am I being shown these things if I can't do 1938 02:01:44,530 --> 02:01:45,529 something about? 1939 02:01:45,530 --> 02:01:50,570 At least the way I understand in our tradition, things are not predestined. 1940 02:01:50,830 --> 02:01:51,970 Really? Yeah. 1941 02:01:52,380 --> 02:01:57,700 Things can be aligned to be going in that direction, but there are things 1942 02:01:57,700 --> 02:01:58,880 you can change, right? 1943 02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:04,920 So the philosophy is that there is a general flow to life. Like there's some 1944 02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:10,320 guidance, but there is some free will within that. You know, the truck is 1945 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:14,820 in that direction, but you can stop it. Over the last few years, I've tried to 1946 02:02:14,820 --> 02:02:20,760 go lucid in a dream, and I'll see dead relatives, dead friends. 1947 02:02:21,580 --> 02:02:23,300 I'll ask them things about the future. 1948 02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:25,780 You know, what are the lottery numbers going to be? 1949 02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:30,440 And they actually tell you? 1950 02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,620 I've got numbers, and some of them have been pretty close. 1951 02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,640 What about asking, I mean, why are you here? 1952 02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:41,940 I can't say I've asked that. 1953 02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:47,440 You know, the more you try, the less it comes. The moment you let go... 1954 02:02:48,819 --> 02:02:52,220 suddenly it comes up. It's pretty hard to let go when you've got somebody 1955 02:02:52,220 --> 02:02:53,240 haunting you. 1956 02:02:53,700 --> 02:03:00,240 Right. And all these things in my past. But the moment that you notice that 1957 02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:07,060 fear, that kind of confronting it, and don't stay in the guy. 1958 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:08,800 Come back to you. 1959 02:03:09,020 --> 02:03:10,200 What's happening to you? 1960 02:03:10,730 --> 02:03:15,970 How do you feel? Look in the mirror at myself. Yeah. You know, you go closer to 1961 02:03:15,970 --> 02:03:19,050 the movie becomes pixels and there's nothing, right? 1962 02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:22,010 Who's fearful Jesse? 1963 02:03:22,250 --> 02:03:27,070 Is fearful Jesse the same as, you know, producer Jesse? 1964 02:03:27,390 --> 02:03:30,550 And is the same as liberated Jesse? 1965 02:03:30,850 --> 02:03:35,570 Can fearful Jesse disappear into liberated Jesse? 1966 02:03:36,050 --> 02:03:37,310 I would love that. 1967 02:03:39,460 --> 02:03:41,120 I've been scared since I was a little kid. 1968 02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:42,440 Yeah. 1969 02:03:42,620 --> 02:03:48,660 I burned my feet across hot tar. I was in a wheelchair for a very long time. 1970 02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:55,580 I used to knock on my dad's door and go into his bedroom and 1971 02:03:55,580 --> 02:03:59,440 I'd have to hold his hand just to be able to fall asleep. 1972 02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,180 I guess I've always been scared. 1973 02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,400 And at that age was not this guy, so it was something else. 1974 02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:13,210 I was eight years old, and it seems like every year or so it's something new. 1975 02:04:14,230 --> 02:04:19,710 And this man has been haunting me 15, 16 years now. 1976 02:04:20,350 --> 02:04:26,670 But when you held your dad's hand, that kind of... Yeah, it brought me back 1977 02:04:26,670 --> 02:04:31,890 down. And I don't know what that is now, you know? There's so many ways of 1978 02:04:31,890 --> 02:04:36,090 grounding and feeling like, stay here and now. 1979 02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:38,950 What's the need of going to the future? 1980 02:04:39,170 --> 02:04:43,730 When I was in India, that first trip, they would tell me, dig in many holes, 1981 02:04:43,730 --> 02:04:47,930 then when you find the water, keep on digging. So that's the hole that I've 1982 02:04:47,930 --> 02:04:48,950 digging for 30 years. 1983 02:04:50,010 --> 02:04:51,450 Yeah, see where your water is. 1984 02:04:52,210 --> 02:04:56,750 Yeah, I want to keep digging deeper into this world, this dream world. Yeah. 1985 02:04:57,850 --> 02:04:59,310 But ask the right questions. 1986 02:05:00,690 --> 02:05:03,030 Ask the right questions. I think that's important. 1987 02:05:03,330 --> 02:05:04,330 I will. 1988 02:06:01,230 --> 02:06:02,230 Not that scary. 1989 02:06:05,910 --> 02:06:07,850 I've seen a lot scarier in my dreams. 1990 02:06:09,310 --> 02:06:10,430 I guess while you're there, 1991 02:06:11,170 --> 02:06:14,230 what are the lottery numbers going to be tomorrow? 1992 02:06:17,190 --> 02:06:18,250 It's going to be a market crash? 1993 02:06:19,570 --> 02:06:21,090 You're going to let me know next time? 1994 02:06:23,210 --> 02:06:24,390 How about the pandemic? 1995 02:06:36,620 --> 02:06:37,660 I was just a kid. 1996 02:06:40,020 --> 02:06:43,160 To tell me somebody's going to die and I can't stop it? 1997 02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:47,200 What is that? 1998 02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:52,540 What am I supposed to do with that? 1999 02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:59,020 They're staring at me, haunting me my whole life. 2000 02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:07,740 When will my parents die? 2001 02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:11,080 Please tell me that. 2002 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:22,000 I don't care. 2003 02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:27,220 I don't care anymore. 2004 02:07:44,170 --> 02:07:47,130 What else do you want to know about the future? 2005 02:07:48,770 --> 02:07:49,770 Nothing. 2006 02:07:52,130 --> 02:07:53,130 Liar! 2007 02:07:57,270 --> 02:07:58,610 I just want to... 2008 02:08:36,020 --> 02:08:40,100 I've dreamt of making a movie my whole life. It's great that this dream's 2009 02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:42,640 true, even though I wish I had the smoking gun. 2010 02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:44,920 Here's how it works on a silver platter. 2011 02:08:45,340 --> 02:08:46,340 I'm not crazy. 2012 02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:47,760 You believe me now? 2013 02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:52,920 Having to relive all your worst nightmares and recreate them for this 2014 02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:54,780 been pretty miserable, actually. 2015 02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,920 I wanted the viewer to hear my experiences and be like, oh, wow, you 2016 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,100 had stuff similar to that, and I really wanted to have something by the end of 2017 02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:08,360 Hannum. A lot of this was to convince myself that either I am quite crazy and 2018 02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:13,000 there's nothing here and it's coincidental, or when I watch everything 2019 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:14,880 like, your partner's going to die. 2020 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:16,360 Oh, shit. 2021 02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:20,740 I don't know where I ultimately land in the battle of free will versus fate, but 2022 02:09:20,740 --> 02:09:23,840 I definitely feel a lot better about either. It's more important that people 2023 02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,100 just feel heard in this realm. We at least got to start with that. 2024 02:09:27,390 --> 02:09:31,050 This whole time I've been trying to search and go on this journey for 2025 02:09:31,050 --> 02:09:36,470 about dreams and physical reality when the answers have been in my dreams. So 2026 02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:39,510 I'm going to sleep. 2027 02:09:39,850 --> 02:09:41,610 I'm going to write it down every night. 2028 02:09:42,090 --> 02:09:44,150 Just completely clear it all. 2029 02:09:44,690 --> 02:09:45,750 Remove the noise. 2030 02:09:46,610 --> 02:09:51,090 Tens of thousands of years of dreaming and this is all we have? 2031 02:09:51,670 --> 02:09:53,170 We have a lot of work to do. 2032 02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:57,440 It's just really exciting to me knowing that there's actually some real magic 2033 02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:58,640 out there in this world. 2034 02:09:59,340 --> 02:10:01,320 There's something that we've yet to discover. 2035 02:10:02,220 --> 02:10:09,100 So I'll be experimenting in the dream world like defamed astronauts in space. 2036 02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:11,860 Except I'll be going deep within. 2037 02:10:12,900 --> 02:10:15,160 Maybe there'll come a time where we value that more. 2038 02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:28,160 The real hook of it is, though, is the feeling. 2039 02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,000 It's not the man in the suit. 2040 02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:37,580 It's not what he says. It's not what he looks like. 2041 02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:42,800 It's the feeling I get when he's there. 2042 02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:48,420 The feeling you get when you hear a story of Joe Barca. 2043 02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:52,240 It's the feeling that I had when I woke up that morning. 2044 02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,880 That's what we're not accounting for in science. 2045 02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,480 That is the key. 2046 02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,960 The thing you don't see is what's inside. 2047 02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:17,720 That's the tether to all these precognitive experiences. 2048 02:11:25,930 --> 02:11:26,930 Has to trigger emotion. 2049 02:11:30,930 --> 02:11:32,110 That's one thing I know for sure. 2050 02:12:01,580 --> 02:12:02,660 You're not supposed to be out here! 2051 02:14:24,810 --> 02:14:28,310 I had a dream that you died. 2052 02:14:30,190 --> 02:14:36,250 We're not the closest, but you're a friend of mine. I woke up and realized 2053 02:14:36,250 --> 02:14:42,550 it was my subconscious showing me what it would be like 2054 02:14:42,550 --> 02:14:48,910 if this situation gets any more out of hand. All of my sort of friends will be 2055 02:14:48,910 --> 02:14:50,850 like, whoa, I kind of knew that guy. 2056 02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:57,420 So I keep fighting instead. Against this avalanche, I feel like a lava lamp. The 2057 02:14:57,420 --> 02:15:00,120 way that I've been totally fucked by time. 2058 02:15:01,220 --> 02:15:03,740 I had a dream that you died. 2059 02:15:05,580 --> 02:15:08,520 Somehow made it about me. 2060 02:15:09,580 --> 02:15:12,100 I had a dream that you died. 2061 02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:16,940 Somehow made it about me. 2062 02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:20,960 And I had a dream that... 2063 02:15:25,450 --> 02:15:32,450 Jump out of the water Standing on the dock It took me back to Omaha For no 2064 02:15:32,450 --> 02:15:38,370 reason other than the happiness I felt that so often seems lost And then I got 2065 02:15:38,370 --> 02:15:44,170 to thinking How recently a lot I've pondered suicide But I could never do 2066 02:15:44,170 --> 02:15:50,870 to my mom So I keep fighting each day Against this male storm I feel like a 2067 02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:54,530 pest The way my hair looks dumb And my heart is made of stone 2068 02:16:11,980 --> 02:16:14,560 I had a dream that you died. 2069 02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:16,740 I had a dream that you died. 2070 02:16:16,980 --> 02:16:18,820 I had a dream that you died. 2071 02:16:20,660 --> 02:16:25,040 Somehow they did about me. I had a dream that you died. 2072 02:16:29,070 --> 02:16:33,370 I had a dream that you died. 2073 02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:39,510 We're not the closest, but you're a friend of mine. 171692

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