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Hello and welcome along to the Celebrity Traitors: Uncloaked,

your official visualized companion podcast with me, Ed Gamble.

Now you know the drill. Make sure you've watched episode five

before you dive into this, because there are spoilers galore.

Coming up...

Charlotte Church chats to me, fresh from murder,

and I reveal the identity of our Traitors.

Her reactions are priceless.

We'll be hearing from another dearly departed Faithful.

It's king of the side-eye, Tom Daley.

Plus, it's two for one on Faithful finalists

as Alexander and Leanne return from series three!

Alexander and Leanne, such a delight to have you on Uncloaked.

We were hoping to have Helen Mirren as well, but I'm too young

to know who she is, sadly. OK. Yeah. Not a clue!

And was it Julie Dench? No idea.

I am Gen Z.

Look, we've got another packed episode to feast on.

We've got Charlotte Church. She's coming up, mere minutes.

But first of all, the mother of all cliffhangers.

The Round Table vote is a tie.

Players, it is still a draw.

Therefore, we will now leave this banishment to the hands of fate.

It's a double deadlock. This has never happened before.

This has never happened before in the history of UK Traitors.

Yeah. So this is absolutely huge, so tense.

Obviously you guys did not go through this,

leaving up a banishment to fate.

But do you have any sense of how they might be feeling?

You obviously know how tense the Round Tables are anyway,

but with that on top of it, how are those guys feeling?

I mean, it's a lot, isn't it? Because if you're voted out,

that's one thing, you say, well, I played the game the best I could

and unfortunately I got voted out. I kind of know how that feels.

But it's an honest exit, right? You did what you could,

but you didn't make it. Yeah. That's fine. But I think it's different

being thrown out with chance. You'd always look back and say,

well, if only the coin had fallen differently, or whatever they use.

I hope it's really theatrical.

Well, it is the Traitors. Yes. Um, so... Because we don't know

what it means yet. We don't know how their fates are decided.

Well, it's just going to be a bit disappointing for whoever goes out,

isn't it? Rock, paper, scissors?

Yeah, I think that sounds reasonable.

Yeah. Or maybe an arm wrestle, maybe we just go, spin the bottle,

or something like that. Spin the bottle might be a different game.

It ends differently, doesn't it, spin the bottle, yeah?

How would you feel if you were in that situation, Leanne?

Oh, horrible. Not the spin the bottle thing, I mean...

Oh, that? Well, then...

I think we should move on!

Oh, honestly, I think, you know,

because it would be such a sinking feeling.

Like Alexander just said, they hadn't been voted out.

Yeah. You know, it's literally left to chance.

We don't know how yet, but, you know,

if I left the game from a toss of a coin,

say, for example, I'd be devastated.

Yeah. What a cliffhanger. Well, look, whether it's David or Mark

that gets banished, one of them is going to be

with me tomorrow night on Uncloaked, telling me everything.

Now, though, we have another murdered player.

And to everyone's shock, it was Charlotte Church.

Straight after she was offed by a banshee, Charlotte sat down with me

in Scotland as I revealed who the Traitors are.

Hi, Charlotte. Hi! Welcome to Uncloaked.

Thank you so much! It's so good to be here!

Thanks so much for joining us. Happy to be here. Have a seat.

Join me by the fire. Wonderful.

Very excited to have you here.

Of course, the circumstances could be happier.

Yes. You are no longer in the Traitors game.

No. But I think you had a pretty good stint.

Are you happy with the time you got there?

I'm happy with the time I got there.

I feel like I had an experience of most things.

I'm sad that I didn't get to experience getting out a Traitor.

Mmm. Um, but I also think

that I would have found the intensification - is that a word? -

but the intense nature of the game

and that becoming progressively more pronounced,

that would have been quite difficult for my little sensitive self.

Let's talk about the missions. Yeah.

Because you got stuck in straight away, that first mission

before you'd even been in the castle... Yes.

Digging through the grave, looking for a shield? Yes!

Were the missions something you were looking forward to?

Yes, absolutely. I think that that was a big part of why I wanted

to come in, to have a challenge, have an adventure.

And, you know, those ones which are enormous,

like the Trojan horse was, I mean,

it was just so brilliant to be part of that.

But, yeah, the first one, as soon as those Land Rovers - bjoom! -

sped out, I was like, hang on a minute!

All is not quite as it seems. And, yeah,

I mean, being in the soil is one of my favourite things to do.

And so I had no problem with digging my own grave.

Now, you were very sure you were going to be murdered.

Yes. You were bang right. Yes, I was.

Why did you think that?

Why did you feel like you were going to be offed?

I feel like probably because I was so vocally a Faithful,

and then I was, I think, good at representing myself as a Faithful,

then I don't, I think that the Traitors couldn't use me

as sort of a diversionary tactic in terms of trying to frame me

as a Traitor. And so, then, what use was I to them, actually,

where, um, hopefully,

hopefully I might have become,

you know, more discerning as the game would have gone on.

Um... and, yeah, so I think that I would have been a threat

to the Traitors, had I stayed.

And, then, yeah, I couldn't...

it would have been difficult for them to really frame me

as a Traitor. And maybe a couple of them did vote for me

at the Round Table, potentially, and it wasn't really sticking,

so they thought, she's of no use to us,

let's pop her off.

Rather excitingly, we are going to tell you who the Traitors are.

You're going to find out for yourself.

I'm going to hand you a scroll. It's right here. OK.

But before I do that... Chomping at the bit.

I'm going to make you wait, I'm going to make you wait. OK!

Because I want to know who you think the Traitors are.

So, by the end of my time,

I think my suspicions were on Mark,

Jonathan and Celia. OK.

Those are your top three. They were my top three.

Why Mark? Mark, because he seemed to be...

I could feel him acting at the Round Table.

Also, how hard he went for Tameka.

And then with Jonathan, I think that again,

he was becoming more and more of a patriarch,

and he didn't seem to be driving himself as mad as everybody else.

OK. And who are your definite Faithfuls?

Oh! I don't think anybody!

Maybe Nick, maybe Kate...

maybe Cat.

But that's it. OK. It's the moment, Charlotte... Oh, my God!

I'm going to hand you this. The names of the Traitors are on here.

We'll go one by one. OK. There you are.

Oh, my gosh, this is so exciting.

Oh!

Oh, goodness me!

Oh!

Jonathan.

Jonathan! And you said Jonathan. I did.

You're one for one so far. One for one.

Cat!

So she's one of your close to 100% Faithful?

She is. Oh, my gosh, she's playing an exquisite game!

I really wanted to believe that she was Faithful, as well.

Here we go.

Alan!

Didn't cross your radar at all, seemingly.

Oh, my good gosh.

Oh, my days!

Alan, you sleaky little Alan!

Oh, gosh, Paloma, she must have been fuming!

Oh, my days.

I think that Jonathan is... has probably not got long.

But I think that Cat and Alan, wooo!

That is going to be tough. Wow. Wow.

Great reflections from Charlotte there.

Charlotte hasn't been without heat at the Round Table. Mm. Yeah.

But these Traitors don't seem to care about that?

They don't seem to want to just leave people to be banished.

But I do think Charlotte would have been a threat to the Traitors.

I think she's a very, very clever woman. Yeah.

I think she's all the right things, right?

She wasn't too Faithful, in my view.

She had some heat on her. She wasn't too sort of dodgy as a Traitor.

So it wasn't obvious to banish her.

She was right in the middle, which is where you want to be.

And she was good at the missions. So I think she got unlucky.

I think she played it really well. Well, some time's passed, we were

desperate to catch up with Charlotte again,

but she's sadly unavailable today.

So she sent us a video message and started by telling us

what it's like watching the show go out.

It's been great watching the show go out so far.

I mean, I enjoy Traitors anyway.

I hardly watch any telly at all, but I do enjoy Traitors.

And so, yeah, it's just so juicy and everybody's so interesting.

You know, you've got some really amazing people and characters

and brains and experience in that cast.

So, it's been really great to watch.

And I, like I think most of the nation,

have fallen madly in love with Celia Imrie.

I'm getting lots of love from my friends and family,

and I've been having a lot of people coming up to me

in the street. The postman the other day was like,

trying to get some information out of me, trying to catch me off-guard.

When I phoned for a doctor's appointment the other day,

even they mentioned it, making reference to "my girls",

and, uh...

that was a little bit awkward!

I think my favourite moment of the series

was probably Celia's parp.

Which was just amazing! Just because she's so cheeky

and mischievous and like,

yeah, she's, um...

oh, she's just so regal and fabulous as well.

And also, I just love farting. I love farting in in all of its forms.

I think we should all be doing more fluffing.

Great value, as always. From Charlotte,

Leanne and Alexander, what are you going to miss most about Charlotte

from the game? Oh, her energy.

She's so... she's got so stuck in.

In the missions, she's not holding back.

Her head was straight in that water. I'm not sure

my head would have been in that water as fast as hers,

I can't lie. Now, we saw in Charlotte's castle chat

that she also suspected Mark. So, there's so much suspicion for him,

if Charlotte had still been in, it wouldn't have been deadlock,

because I think she would have gone for Mark as well. What do we think

Mark can do, if he escapes this banishment,

what do we think he can do to bat suspicion away from him?

I think I always had a sort of plan.

I had notes on how I would push suspicion away. First absorb

and say, "You know, yeah, look, that's a fair point,

"And I can see what you're saying. It's this and it's this,

"and you make a good point on that." But I would also say,

and then you lay out your defence, but you do it quickly, right?

You just want as little time on you as possible. And that's where

the third thing comes in that you say, actually,

"Have you thought about David?"

Because what I'd be looking for is somebody

who has been quiet for a while, or whatever it is that they've done,

it doesn't really matter what they've done,

you just need a principle and then make them stick

to that principle and then move it on.

Somebody who's really starting to find his voice is Nick.

Now, Nick is obviously very suspicious of Cat,

but his gameplay around this is fascinating.

Cat has been playing an absolutely brilliant game,

and there was something in the fact that, you know,

she had the shield, but we chose to not tell everyone

that she had the shield.

I didn't buy that. And I do think she's slipping

under the radar in the most brilliant way.

But I don't think I'm going to name her at this point,

because I think it's safer to ally myself with her.

How do we rate Nick's strategy here? Do you know what,

it can go one way or the other. It could be a really good idea,

you know, to build an alliance with Cat,

because obviously she's a Traitor. But we could have another season two

Jaz, where he might leave it too late,

and then no-one's going to listen to him at the end,

and then he's lost it.

He's playing his own little game, is Nick. Personally, I love it.

I think this is great gameplay.

Find a Traitor, sit close to them, and then ride it a little bit

towards the end of the game and then turn. Yeah.

I think that maintaining your behaviour is so important... Yeah.

In the game. In the first couple of episodes,

as we've seen, if you do something that stands out,

you run risk of just being banished for that.

Yeah. But if people see you keep doing it,

like, Alan has sort of kept his behaviour pretty much the same.

Kate Garraway under pressure earlier, because she was

sort of loudly repeating things

that other people said, which I love!

And then she keeps doing it. And eventually people just say, "Oh,

"that's just Kate", or, "That's just Alan." Yeah.

And then you sort of baseline to a different, different thing.

And everyone just accepts you as you are.

And at that point, you're much, much safer.

So let's talk about Alan's growth as a Traitor.

To be sitting there and outwitting Stephen Fry, I mean,

it's like beating Albert Einstein in chess or Cluedo or something.

I just started stuffing cheese

in my mouth because I can't stop grinning.

Isn't it funny? I was so nervous when Claudia

squeezed my shoulder blade, and now I just love being a Traitor.

Do we think he's in danger of getting too cocky?

If anyone can get away with it, Alan can.

Yeah. He's very... he's very scatty,

he's very giggly, very sweaty.

But also, from the beginning, he's been throwing names out there.

He's been calling people out left, right and centre,

and he's just getting away with it. Also, he can get away with saying

really horrible stuff to people, because he's so charming.

Yeah. It's just Alan! If Alan accused me of being a Traitor

and was horrible about something I did, I'd be like, "Oh, Alan!

"What a joy it is to be roasted by you." I think it's one to watch.

I sort of saw him as a ticking time bomb.

Now I think of him as a sort of evil genius. Yes. And then the next phase

is sort of some sort of karma. So let's see. Exploded time bomb.

Exploded time bomb, yeah! Well, look, we've had a lot of memes

based on Alan's first few episodes as a Traitor, in the cloak,

walking around with a lantern. Oh, it's great, those.

Going to put the bins out, etc.

And some of Alan's deflections have already become quite legendary

as well. Let's not forget this from episode two.

"Oh, my gosh, I'm flabbergasted!" Who uses that word.

You can't... just call someone a Traitor

because they have a better vocabulary than you.

And that is as good a moment as any to bring in the wonderful

Tom Daley from LA!

Hellooo! Hey! Tom, welcome to Uncloaked.

How many times have you used the word flabbergasted

in everyday conversation since leaving the castle?

Flabbergasted is like, one thing, right? I genuinely was like,

"Who still uses that word?" It's like saying whoopsie-daisy.

It's like saying discombobulated. At least, like in 2025,

you've got to be flabby-geeed, or like...

Flabby-geed!

You got to have your flabbers gasted at some point, you know?

But flab... I don't know, it was, it just caught me off-guard.

Bless. But I do love Kate, though. I feel really bad

that like, it's come out and I'm like, "Oh, my gosh,

"like, why is she using that word?" But she's really sweet, bless her.

This is what I love about Traitors is that you can go in and start

watching the series - we had no idea that the word flabbergasted

would take the nation by storm, such as it has.

Who knew? And it's weird, because I'm in LA, I don't have the...

I'm not, like, involved in, like, all of the UK chat as much,

so now, whenever I see anyone British, or any time I post anything

on social media, everyone's like, "Oh, flabbergasting!

"Oh, I'm so flabbergasted!" And I'm like,

"Oh, my gosh, like, is this...?" And I'm like, I feel like

at some point I need to knit a flabbergasted jumper.

I think that's my next thing.

I think you absolutely should.

Have you been enjoying all of the memes from the, from the side-eye

as well? Yeah! Well, I had no idea that my side-eye was that obvious.

Well, like, I knew that I gave a little side-eye, like,

"Oh, God, here we go." But I didn't realise that my face literally

looked like I was gurning into some kind of side-eyed monster.

But, you know, it's... I mean, it is what it is.

It was so much fun. I wish I could have stayed longer.

I can't believe that, you know, when I was about to,

you know, when I didn't come to breakfast,

I was so gutted because I was so excited about all of the missions

to come and all of that stuff, but, you know,

it is what it is.

You definitely went way too early.

I mean, I'll bring in Alexandra and Leanne here,

but I think Tom was going to prove himself

to be quite the useful Faithful? Oh, 100%.

You are such a huge loss, Tom. I'm devastated.

You brought so many iconic moments.

You've brought flabbergasted back into existence.

If you didn't pick up on that, I don't think it would have ever

been picked up on. Tom, during our chat

up in the Highlands after you left the game,

you were absolutely desperate to know how Paloma

had been murdered in plain sight.

Yes. You really wanted to know. You asked me a lot.

I was under strict instructions to not tell you.

Now that you've finally seen Alan touching Paloma's face,

what did you make of it? Yeah, I mean,

I would never have known. I mean, I found myself trying to be

as observant as possible with, like,

with things like the black lily and the things like

what animals are up on shelves and where are things placed?

Because I was like, you never know when that's going to be a question

in a mission. You never know if that's going to be something

that's going to be used to murder someone. But, you know,

I didn't pick up on the black lily at all. So...

It felt like you were a kind of great sort of Traitor hunter.

And your time was cut a bit short. You were super observant.

You watched everybody, you watched everything.

And you were certainly sort of picking up all of the information.

Yeah. I think that's something that, as, you know,

as an athlete, you become quite a high-perceptive,

so when I'm spinning around and twisting and turning as a diver,

I have to see every single thing when I'm spinning, to know

where I am in the air. So you learn to pick up on these little things,

to be able to keep self-centred and be able to be like,

keep yourself safe. So for me, walking into a room,

doing the mission, and looking at the gates

and trying to pick up on all the little bits

I felt were quite important, um, but I think obviously the Traitors, um,

saw that as something that maybe if they slipped up,

I might be someone that might have been able... Yeah.

To sway people to banish them. Yeah, definitely.

Tom, I'd just be super interested to know how it was for you,

the difference between what you expected, having seen a few series,

and actually, what it was like being on it,

was it the same thing, was it different?

Yeah. I mean, it was terrifying. Like, especially going into

that Round Table. The only Round Table that I was at,

people started coming for me

and I was like, "Oh, my gosh, what am I going to say here?"

And it was kind of, like, surreal to see it all play out.

And, you know, when you go into it

thinking one thing, and then everybody has those discussions,

and then you end up being like, "Oh, wait, maybe I've got it wrong."

And then you start doubting yourself and you start thinking,

OK, my name's come up.

Niko's names also come up and I feel like more people

are going to vote for Niko. And then you find yourself, like,

voting to try and save yourself,

but not necessarily who you believe is actually a Traitor.

Tom, you were quite outspoken with some of your suspicions

in the game, which was a lot of fun to watch.

Obviously, you were suspicious of Kate being flabbergasted,

but you also had your doubts about Clare, after she messed up

the Trojan horse mission.

You've known Clare since you were a wee lad.

Did you not believe her when she was so remorseful about the mission?

You know, looking back on it, of course, like, it makes sense.

But knowing that the Traitors met,

I knew that they were up to something that day.

Like, who knew what it was going to be, whether it was going to be...

It ended up being a murder in plain sight.

Were they trying to sabotage the mission? And something like that,

yeah, it looks like an honest mistake. But in this game,

honest mistakes can cost you your life.

So it's... Yeah, instantly I was like, "Hmm."

Have you spoken to Claire since the show started going out?

I mean, we've got the WhatsApp group.

Of course. The WhatsApp group pops off.

Honestly, I wake up to about 30 messages

and I can't keep up.

It's like going...

It's like the school WhatsApp groups with the parents.

You're like, "Oh!"

And Tameka is the voice-note queen

of 2.5-minute-long voice notes.

I can imagine. And they are played on fast forward,

even though they're already kind of in fast forward.

Um, so it's... Yeah, it's lovely though,

because Tameka reaches out to me all the time,

because obviously she was banished in the same episode.

So it's... Yeah, it's a... It's fun.

It's really sweet. Everybody is really,

like, excited and watching it back together,

it feels like we've all been on this journey together.

So, at the Round Table, Niko voted for you.

And Joe Wilkinson was also suspicious

and voted for you. Did you worry

that their votes might start to give the other players ideas?

Yeah, I thought

that I was going to be banished in the next Round Table,

which is why I was surprised to be murdered,

because I thought, well, my name's going to come up again

and I'm going to have to try and defend myself.

But, yeah,

it's really kind of quite scary when your name does come up,

it takes you aback and you think,

"What did I do other than try and win as much money

"in the mission as possible? Running back, trying to get...

"and trying to throw ideas out there for who to banish."

Because in the beginning,

you've got nothing to go on whatsoever.

Like you say, just have to survive.

So if you come up in the first Round Table,

you try to do anything to, you know,

make sure that you're still there the next day.

Now, I should say this, Tom, I don't want to grass her up,

but we had Paloma on Uncloaked the other night,

and she was very suspicious of you for a quite specific reason.

Have a listen to this.

I did have Tom in my head.

I just felt like his outfit at the funeral

was very serial killer-y.

And that's... Like American Psycho

with the buttons done all the way down.

I was like, "Oh, my God! He's a psychopath."

Well, the thing is, Paloma -

she was like wearing "I love me" the first day, like so...

So who's the real psychopath there?

No, I love Paloma.

I think she's, I think she's great.

And I was like, you know, everyone has been messaging me like,

"Oh, my gosh, that's the most inappropriate outfit for a funeral."

That's like, "I can't believe he showed so much chest."

I was like, "You do know it was a game,

"and nobody actually died?"

Yeah, you wouldn't wear that to a normal funeral, Tom.

Thank you. No! Well, no.

Well, maybe I would. You know,

some people appreciate the jubblies out,

but I don't know, not everyone.

Look, if she thought that shirt was revealing,

she should see what you wear for diving, you know?

Exactly. There's not many people

that wear more clothes to bed than they do to work.

You could have gone

in your little, your little demure black trunks.

That would have been very respectful.

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

It's probably the most respectful.

You know, I felt like I did dress quite conservatively

my time there. I was... You know, I wore a suit on day one.

Yeah. And you looked smashing. Thank you.

Tom, if you hadn't been murdered,

you said you thought you might be banished.

Did you have any idea of what you might say

at the next Round Table to prevent that banishment?

You know, at that point,

you never know what you are going to say.

And I think being able to like, if you were

to plan something going into a Round Table,

it's always going to look rehearsed and it's always going

to look like you're a Traitor if you've rehearsed something.

So I feel like you have to really listen,

really be in the moment

and bounce off of what other people are saying.

But I think the whole time,

if I was going into that as a Faithful, like I was,

I would have just had to explain exactly my

reasonings behind everything.

And also give the understanding of why someone might think that I was

a Traitor, so that they feel heard, but then also tell them why I'm not.

And then you just have to wish for the best,

because people are either going to believe you or not.

Leanne and Alexander, from an audience perspective,

who do we think is closest to catching a Traitor

in there at the moment?

I mean, Clare Balding

was really close to catching Jonathan.

Also, Joe Marler was really close to going for Jonathan,

but he just completely switched at the Round Table.

I feel like Joe has lots of good ideas,

but nobody really listens to him all that much,

and then he gets swayed by lots of people.

And I think the way that they were looking straight away at David,

because he all of a sudden voiced an opinion, when that's

all they've been asking everyone to do.

Yeah. It's hard to tell who might be close to catching.

I still can't believe that nobody has caught on to Alan,

because at every turn I'm just like, "Come on!

"Someone's got to see it sometime soon."

Watching it back, it's almost embarrassing,

isn't it, why not. But, yeah. Yeah!

I completely agree, when you're in there,

it looks like he's just being Alan,

so it makes sense. Yeah.

They're currently on the wrong track with Mark.

What did you make of Mark?

There was obviously a lot of talk about his looking

at everyone at the funeral,

standing aside and staring at everyone,

whereas he should have used your technique

of just flicking his eyes to the side.

That's all he needed to do to look at people.

Yeah, I mean, exactly. You just look to one side,

you can see everything.

Yeah. I mean,

it wasn't so much that Mark did the...

I think what people had a problem with

and why they thought he was a Traitor,

it wasn't that he just kind of like, turned and, like,

did like a, "Oh, I'm just going to see how people are reacting."

He made a real point when we were there,

he really stepped and really made sure everyone saw that

he did the whole peer around the corner thing.

So I think sometimes if you're doing it to be like,

"Look, I'm being Faithful, I'm really looking,"

it makes you look suspicious. You just have to...

I always think you always have to...

If I was going to do it again,

I would imagine I was a Traitor and - what would I do

in order to make people think I was a Faithful? -

rather than just acting in a way that you are truly Faithful.

Because that way you end up being more suspicious...

Yeah. That's so clever... because you start overcompensating.

Yeah. Also, David's up against Mark in this banishment

that's left to fate.

What did you make of David when you were in there?

Oh, he's an incredibly smart person.

He's somebody that is incredibly...

He just... But he does sit back and he just does observe.

But, I do see why it might be suspicious

that all of a sudden...

He's not really throwing anything out

and then all of a sudden he has an opinion of who it might be.

Do you have a sense of who you might have voted

for at that banishment tie-breaker, between David and Mark?

Yeah, I probably would have said Mark,

because I feel like David would not be banished from the Round Table.

So I feel like he would be someone

that would get murdered rather than banished,

whereas Mark is somebody that was going to get banished.

So towards the end,

if you want to survive as a Faithful,

you want to keep people in the game that are going to get banished at

the Round Table, and leave the ones that are likely to get murdered.

But again, these Traitors are doing things

that you just never would have even thought to do.

Now, we're almost out of time, but I've mentioned already

on Uncloaked that I'm actually hidden

in this series of the Celebrity Traitors somewhere,

on one episode, I'm hidden.

Any ideas? I'm not going to reveal,

but, all three of you, do you have a guess of

where I might be popping up or have popped up?

I think, what were they called in the mission? Sirens?

The banshees. The banshees. Yeah, I think you're a banshee.

You think I'm a banshee? Well, thank you very much.

You're welcome.

I'm kind of hoping you were in the choir in the funeral?

Yeah. Maybe I'm just projecting here.

You want to be in the choir. I'd love to see you behind the mask.

I didn't see you in the... I didn't see you in the choir.

You must have been - one of those people that were, like,

pulling people out of the car, fully masked and cloaked.

Interesting. What, for the chained-up mission?

Yeah. Episode three.

All interesting. Are any of us close? Was I in the choir?

I'm not going to tell you.

What an awful reveal that would be!

When are we going to find out?

Is it for the finale reveal?

Yeah. We're keeping it until the finale, I think.

Imagine if one of you was close

and I went, "Yeah, you're right.

"Anyway..."

Obviously, if you've got guesses at home,

comment on socials, and tell me where you think I am.

That's an interesting sentence.

Meanwhile, the chat continues over on BBC Sounds.

I'll ask Tom how he'd play the game as a Traitor,

and what his husband thinks of his time on the show.

That's in your bonus episode of Uncloaked.

Just scan the QR code on your screen

and then listen straight away, as you get into your jimjams.

I'm back tomorrow night,

and I'll be joined by whoever gets banished.

It's either David or Mark,

so one of them will get to find out who the Traitors are.

Plus, we'll have any other murdered or banished players.

Thanks for now to Leanne, Alexander and Tom.

And to you for watching. I'm Ed Gamble,

stay Faithful.

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