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Greetings, Traitors super-fan,

and welcome to
The Celebrity Traitors: Uncloaked,

with me, Ed Gamble.

This is your official
companion visualised podcast

unpacking everything from the show.

So, make sure you've watched
episode four, please,

because a world full of spoilers
is coming at you right now.

Coming up on Uncloaked -

we catch up with Clare Balding

straight after
her shocking banishment.

Murdered Ruth Codd spills the tea
on her castle experience.

We have the exclusive moment

I reveal to them both the identity
of our Traitors.

Plus, it's only castle royalty -

series two Faithful Diane

and series two
Traitor Paul are both here.

Diane and Paul, welcome back
to Uncloaked, the pair of you.

Very excited to have you
with us again.

It's so nice to be back.
Thank you for having us.

Yeah, this is lovely.

And we should clarify
right at the top,

Diane, Paul isn't your son...

But Ross is. Well, thank you.

It is a legal requirement

that you have to do
that every time you're on, Diane,

so thank you. Indeed.

We're going to chat to Murdered Ruth
very shortly,

but first I have
to get your reaction to

that wailing banshees mission.

♪ La, la, la

♪ La, la, la!

♪ La, la, la. ♪

Got it.

♪ La, la, la. ♪

Diane, you were saying, weren't
you - we were just practising -

that you could do the wailing.

I was saying that,
but actually I wasn't.

That's an absolute lie.

Paul was a Traitor
and continues to be a Traitor.

He was demonstrating the banshee
noise. She was doing it.

So go for it.

It was something like that,
wasn't it?

Were you one of the banshees, Paul?

No, I wasn't, Ed.

Oh, you think I was?
Well, you know...

There's a bit of...

You know, there's a bit of talk of

maybe I was involved in The Traitors
at some point.

One of them had a
little bit of swagger,

had some nice trainers on.

And I was thinking, "Hold on
a minute, I recognise that!"

He had corduroys on.

Which banshee had nice trainers on?

I don't... I think...

Look, this is a show
with very high production values.

I don't think they'd let Nikes
slip through on a Banshee.

No, definitely not.

The one thing about the mission was,
it just emphasises again,

that all the celebrities
that have lined up for this show

are so invested, because they were
really going for it. Absolutely.

Which makes it even better.
It does.

And, you know, you would expect maybe
some of the celebrities wouldn't be

up for dunking their heads under
the water... They were all there.

Or screaming down a well.
I know. Yeah.

We can't talk
about the banshee mission

without hearing
what Celia's first thought was.

Well, you know what
you do in a well, don't you?

What? Put the pussy in.

Exactly what we were all thinking,
Celia.

I think I speak for everyone
when I agree with you there.

Can we have a small explanation?

It's one of those nursery rhymes.

Well, come on,
it's what we were all thinking.

Might as well say it.

We were not all thinking it.

I'm not sure
that was my first thought.

Just a total legend.

So, what nursery rhyme?
I don't know.

I've been going through
all the nursery rhymes.

What...
Is she thinking of Cat Bin Lady?

Oh, I don't know what
she's thinking of. No, it is!

Ding dong bell, Pussy in the well.

Ding dong bell, Pussy in the well?

Yeah,
but I can't remember the rest of it.

Yeah, I think no-one remembers
the rest of it.

It's just... As soon as you get to
"pussy in the well", you're like,

"There's no point singing any more
of this."

I mean, she put in quite
a shift across the whole mission.

Let's have a look at that.

Celia let out a noise that I've
never heard...

before in my life.

No, it's the...

Celia...

The skill of projection
is very important.

It's a lot to do with breathing,

a lot to do with annunciation,
I guess.

Stop it!

Make it stop! Stop it now.

I mean, at least the sounds are
coming out of her mouth this time.

Yeah, well, that is true, actually.

Yeah, that's a bonus, really. Yeah.

Who was your favourite celebrity to
dunk their head under the water?

The Stephen Fry one was very good
for the reason of him

kind of almost storming away going,

"You're a grown man!
What are you doing?"

It still kind of
catches me off guard

when I see him on-screen.
Yeah, I think Stephen Fry...

Like, that's Stephen Fry!

Like, this is incredible.

It was Claudia's face when

Stephen Fry was dunking his head
under the water, going,

"Stephen Fry's dunking his head!"

Let's talk gameplay now,

because there was some very different
approaches to the shields.

So, Cat got a shield,
took the shield.

She was first there.
She took the shield.

"I'm having that.

"Let's not tell anyone else in the
other group about the shield." Yeah.

Jonathan found the one
in the watering can

and just immediately just offered it
to Stephen.

It's a risk, innit?
So, do you think that's a risk?

Is that something
that you would have done, Paul?

Jonathan's doing
that thing where, like,

I imagine, like,
for people watching him,

he looks so obvious, but he's
so compelling at the round table

that he can kind of do the
slopy shoulders thing.

And I imagine when people watched me
in season two,

they were doing the same.

Like, it's so obviously this person.

Yeah. And people would name me at
the round table,

but then they would just throw it
all away.

Yeah. But I do think
that kind of, like, nonchalant,

"Well, you can just have it",

it's kind of like
a subconscious move.

But I think he's so smart and he's
so good at kind of battling people

at the Round Table,
it almost doesn't really matter.

I think Jonathan's been
quite smart sometimes,

though, because when his name
does get brought up -

I think Celia brought his name
up to him,

said,
"I think I'm suspicious of you" -

he'll say things like, "Well,
we've got to investigate that."

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

But a lot of them mentioned
his name on the last episode,

but they then didn't vote for him.

So I don't understand that.

It seems to take them a while
for a theory to warm up

to the extent that they're willing
to put it into practice. Yeah.

Because I think they're all so
worried about getting it wrong,

which makes it so much harder.

Except for Joe Marler.

Joe's not. He's intelligent
and he's very funny.

Yes, he is. He is funny.

But then his theory
is very good about the king of...

The big dogs. Yeah, the big guys,
Stephen against Jonathan.

He's nailed it,
so let's stay on that.

But they're not pushing for that.
I know, I know. It's great.

Now, just before we hear from Ruth,

I need quick thoughts
on that cliff-hanger.

We don't know who's going
to be murdered,

but the banshee is coming
for someone,

and it's one of Kate Garraway,

Charlotte Church or David Olusoga.

I think David, because he's
the quietest of the group.

I think Kate could help stir the pot
a little bit,

but she can also bring loads
of attention onto herself.

Who's the other one? Oh,
Charlotte Church is the other one.

Charlotte Church
has been getting some heat as well.

If people are getting heat,
you leave them in there.

And sometimes the ones
that aren't getting heat

and aren't really contributing...

Yeah. I think Kate's more of a danger
out of the three of them

because she asks a lot of questions.
Yeah, true.

Charlotte's not got
anything correct yet.

Well, whoever it is,
I'll be chatting to them

on the next episode of Uncloaked.

But without further ado,

it's time to hear
from our next Murdered player,

Ruth Codd.

She's joining us very soon.
But first I caught up with her

in Scotland
straight after she was murdered,

to get her first reactions
and reveal who the Traitors were.

Hi, Ruth. Hello!
Welcome to Uncloaked.

Thank you so much.
Thank you very much for coming.

Take a seat, please.

It's very nice to see you,

and thank you
for coming on the show.

But sad to see you leave the game
so early.

How are you feeling, now
that you're out?

Delighted. I have
a 15-year-old dog at home.

She hasn't much time left,
so I kind of needed to get back.

You know what I mean?

So, the dog's on the clock.

You're thinking that
during your time in the castle?

Yeah. Big time, yeah.

Someone's looking after her,
though, right?

No, I just left her home alone.

She can look after herself.

So you were so confident
that you'd be out at this point,

you just thought,
"She's not due a feed.

"I'll be back before episode five."

Yeah, that was the plan
all along.

It's all right.
I left the back door open.

You know, I had a plethora of
tactics going in,

and it all went tits up
the second I got in there.

I thought I'd play it quiet,

and then kind
of coast my way through,

you know, and not get too mouthy.

But again, it's me...

Round Table number two,

just running my mouth off left,
right and centre.

I think whenever I speak to people
who played the game,

it's always the people who say,

"I'm going to go in
and change my personality."

And then, within two Round Tables,

it's like,
"There's no point doing that."

You've got to be yourself, right?

I fear a lot of them in there
think we're at summer camp.

You're not going to figure it out
that way, if you know what I mean.

If people aren't being open
and honest about their theories.

Because there was a couple of things
people said around the table

and you'd be like, "Oh, yeah."

And then things start
to click together in your head.

Yeah. So if people did more of that,
then it might have been

a more successful first couple of
Round Tables.

Well, they're definitely not going
to now.

Muggins over here.

They'd be like, "Oh, Ruth told us
all to speak up.

"Also, she got murdered."

Yeah.
Yeah, that's a very good point.

You were the one who spoke up,
and that was...

That was the end of you.

I literally knew last night.

I was like, I'm either going to get
recruited or murdered.

And was that because you spoke up?

You thought,
"That's me marked out now"? Yeah.

And I kind of knew,

to be honest,
when I was speaking up, that...

In my head it was like,
"Ruth, stop talking."

So you said after that Round Table

that you thought there might be
a target on your back.

Oh, I absolutely knew it. I went,

I'm pretty sure Jonathan
was going around moving and shaking,

like, making sure everyone knows,
you know,

he wasn't telling porky pies. Right.

Why don't you tell me, first of all,

who do you suspect
of being a Traitor?

Well, suspect number one
is Jonathan, obviously. Yes.

Suspect number two...

Kate.

And suspect number three -

I kind of just have this gut feeling
that it might be Celia,

just because she's so chaotic.

So it's the chaos of Celia
that makes you suspicious?

Yeah, but also I wouldn't...

I don't think I would ever have
voted for her at the Round Table

just because she's
so entertaining to have around.

What about your definite Faithfuls?

Definite Faithfuls?

Is there any definites
in this game, really?

Well, who did you trust the most?

Well,
obviously I trusted Clare the most.

I swear to God,
if she's a Traitor, I'm never...

I'm never going to be able to
trust.

My career is based off of instincts
in acting.

I'm going to have to go back to
being a barber.

I'm going to have to open
a hairdresser's...

if Clare Balding is a Traitor.

People were kind of accusing Cat,
but I think Cat's a Faithful.

I mean, if Lucy is a Traitor, give
that woman a BAFTA immediately.

I think it's time.

I'm going to give you the scroll.

Has anyone ever
not opened the scroll?

You're contractually obliged to open
the scroll. Oh, for God's sake.

I'd rather live in ignorance.

It's like when it comes to watching
myself in films,

I'd rather live in ignorance.

Let's see the first one -
and read the name out for me.

God.

Oh! Oh, I was right. Oh!

OK, I don't have to open
the hairdresser's.

I was right! You were right.
It was Jonathan.

Shall we see the next one? Yeah.

It's Cat!

Good for her!

Yeah, fair play.

You're feeling quite positive
about that?

I'm quite positive about that one.

Can Traitors
kill off other Traitors?

Well, they can lead people towards
them and get them banished.

So do you think that might be...

Can you see the Traitors
turning on each other?

It depends who the third Traitor is.
Who do you think?

Do you have a sense of
the third Traitor,

now you've seen the first two?

No, I have no idea.

Let's see the third.

Alan?!

He killed Paloma?! Yeah.

I mean genius, but he's going to
need to move to Mexico

when he gets out of here.

She's going to kill him.

Yeah, I mean,
we've talked to Paloma.

It's not going to end well.

Oh, well, that does mean a
best friend spot is up for grabs.

I think she's quite cool, so, yeah.

And we're joined by Ruth now,
live from Belgium.

Yay!

Ruth, welcome to Uncloaked.

We should ask you straight away,
how's the dog?

Was the dog OK when you got back?

Dead.

And did the burglars take much,
as you left the back door open?

No, no, that's the thing.
The back door closed

and she couldn't
get to her water bowl.

Right. That happens.

Obviously I am joking.

Betty is alive and well.

She's all right.
My mammy is looking after her.

Now, let's talk
about your two Round Tables.

In that first Round Table,
you voted for Kate.

Why were you so suspicious of her?

Well, you're just really pissing
in the wind

the first Round Table, aren't you?

Yeah. So, not a lot to go off.

I hadn't at that stage done any...
I hadn't done the challenge

where they chained us all up
in the little hut yet.

So I really didn't know
at that point

that she was so... Loud.

Theatrical
and over-the-top and loud.

I kind of just thought that
was a...

That was an act.
But it turns out it wasn't.

It was just Kate.

I wouldn't be hard on yourself,

I think plenty make mistakes
like that.

When you're in there,
it's a different planet, isn't it?

Yeah, well,
I was at a disadvantage as well,

because I've only been in
the industry a wet week.

And apart from Niko, I didn't know,
really...

And Clare Balding, obviously.
Yeah, yeah.

I didn't really know anyone
or had ever met them,

you know, at events and whatnot,
so...

I had nothing to
go off of at all.

I think it's incredibly bold at
the second Round Table

to go after someone,
and it proved right.

You were going after Jonathan,

and we're all sat at home absolutely
punching the air, going,

"Yes! She's actually doing it."

How did it feel going toe-to-toe
with him

at that second Round Table?

It was scary because I knew

nobody really
in there knows who I am,

and everyone knows who he is.

So I knew I probably wasn't going
to get that much backup.

And I was, like,
on a scale of one to ten,

how much of a Jonathan-shaped hill
are we willing to die on here?

And it turns out it was a ten!

It was a big fat ten.

Let's see a little clip of
you and Jonathan

going at each other
on the Round Table.

One of the first things you did

was make an alliance with Niko
and me and Clare in the car.

You said it in the car. Did he?
Mm-hm.

What did I say? Yeah, yeah,
you said, "We're an alliance."

I did not say we were an alliance.
Yes, you did!

We're an alliance?!

Yes, you did. Yes. Guys, I swear I
have not said the words, "We're..."

You did. No.

OK, I'm not going to say...
I'm saying you've misremembered.

I have not said to anyone,
"I'm in an alliance."

I've said to people,
"I totally believe you're faithful",

I've said to people,
"I'm not voting for you."

I have not said to anyone,
"We're in an alliance."

I did not say that.

Wow! Right, well, let's
settle it once and for all.

Let's wind the tape back.

Did Jonathan say...
OK, settle it, then, Ed.

Go on. Did Jonathan say
you were in an alliance?

Let's have a look.

NIKO: So, we've got now
a one in 13 chance of death.

If you form alliances with people,

that might swing it
in your favour.

CLARE: Yeah.

Some people know each other already.

I don't know anyone.
NIKO: We're in trouble.

CLARE: No, you're not.

And you've got two older
allies here already.

Exactly.

So I think maybe
from Jonathan's perspective,

he'd created a very loose alliance.

Maybe he was just throwing that word
around in quite a general way.

The sentiment of
what he said remains the same.

He lured Niko into a false
sense of security.

He created an alliance

and blindsided him
at the Round Table.

Doesn't matter, though.

You stood up for your convictions,
so that's what's important.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, better to be dead
and right, I suppose.

Exactly. Yeah.

That's the old phrase, isn't it?

Why do you think
Alan Carr's getting away with it?

Why are people not realising that
he is a Traitor?

Well, Clare did.

It's just that thing of,
like, I look back,

I look back on episode one,
he's sweating so much.

Yes, yeah, yeah. I know.

I just... Because I didn't know him,
I just...

He said, "Oh, I have
a sweating problem,"

and I just believed him.

But just because
he's so unserious, I suppose.

Yeah. Yeah.

None of us... None of us thought,
apart from Clare...

Took him seriously. Yeah.

But his sweat problem's disappeared,
though, hasn't it?

Like, the sweat problem...
He's mopped up.

He's mopped up. He's definitely
mopped up. Yeah.

I don't know whether it's tissue
under the armpits or what...

Growing into the role.
But it's now gone.

Ruth, you also had a brilliant
turn of phrase in the castle.

Some very funny, very withering
put-downs.

Let's have a little look
at a compilation we've made.

It'd be pretty terrible going on

an all-inclusive
to the Traitors castle,

and then you don't even get
a croissant out of it.

When they were wheeling me down
to get my leg chopped off...

Yeah... it was less tense than that.

It was less tense. Yeah.

Piss in my ear
and tell me it's raining,

like, I know what I heard.

TOM: I see something big
and on wheels.

That's my mobility scooter.

My gameplay, for the most part,
is to...

just be myself.

You know, maybe be a bit friendlier.

I'm not really notorious
for my people skills.

Brilliant.

Thank you. Thanks, Diane.

Now that you've been through
the show, Ruth,

would you rather that you were
a Traitor or a Faithful?

Oh, I'm so glad
I wasn't picked as a Traitor.

Why? I've just...

That show has made me realise

I'm strong-willed
and I'm smart, I think.

Um... And I have my own mind,

which I kind of knew
going into the show,

but I'm not as kind of savage
as I thought.

And I'm not ruthless.

I agree with you.
Yeah. I always want to be Faithful.

Ruth, we're going to chat more
on our

BBC Sounds bonus episode
a little later,

but just before you go,

what was your reaction to watching
the Faithful banish Clare?

Um, it was absolutely infuriating.

It was the same thing
as what happened to Niko.

It was just everyone
jumping on the bandwagon,

which...

Watching fully-grown adults

who have established careers,

was just fascinating.

Herd mentality.
Yeah, I agree with you. Sheep.

Well, yeah, absolutely.
It really was a shock

for all of us to see Clare fall
at the latest Round Table,

but she and I got to sit down for a
chat straight after her castle exit.

And of course, I revealed to Clare
just who those pesky Traitors are.

Hello, come in.

Welcome. Welcome to Uncloaked.
Grab a seat.

Thank you very much.

Oh, lovely!

Clare, thank you so much for
joining us on Uncloaked.

You're very welcome. I wish it was

under different circumstances,
though. Yeah.

We're very sad to see you...

see you banished.
But you're happy with your exit?

Well, I did, at least, I think,
exit quite dramatically.

And from the sounds
I heard behind me,

it caused quite a stir.

That's what you want to hear
as you leave, isn't it?

You don't want to hear pure silence.

No. You want to hear Stephen Fry
and Celia Imrie swearing.

We all want to hear that
at all times, I think. Always.

But, yeah. Always. And it was funny
cos I think, as I stood there,

I think so many...

Well, obviously the Faithfuls
that have voted for me

absolutely thought I was a Traitor.
Mm-hm.

And I regret not making
a better argument for myself.

I... It's an interesting thing.

I found the whole experience
so fascinating,

and I knew it would be a way
of seeing groupthink in action,

but when it's suddenly
turned on you, there really is...

You are...
You panic because you think,

"I don't know what to do here,"

and it's so much easier
to attack than it is to defend,

which I think is why
so many politicians do that.

They don't bother.
Do you know what I mean?

It is really hard to say,
"No. I promise you, I'm Faithful.

"I can't give you a million reasons
why. You just need to trust me."

Of course. Actually, it's much
better to go on an angle and say,

"But I'll tell you why."

And the thing I really regret,

because I didn't think of it
in the moment,

was the night that...

So only the night before,

the Round Table when Tameka
was voted off,

only four people voted for her.

Of those four people,
one of those has to be,

if not two of them,
have to be a Traitor.

So we'd narrowed it down then.

Yeah. Even if they were
doing clever voting,

I still think it was too risky
for one of them not to.

Let's talk about your suspicions
for a bit, Clare,

because I know you've brought
the notebook with you.

I have, and I'm not sure.

OK, so the notebook has on the
front of it,

"Times I was right
and nobody listened,"

because I was slightly
starting to feel,

and I'll make this reference
because Stephen will appreciate it,

I was slightly starting to feel
like Cassandra,

who, in Greek mythology,

is condemned by Apollo
to constantly speak the truth

and prophesise doom,
but nobody will listen.

And I was feeling very much
like Cassandra,

but it is also my own fault

because I then suddenly decided
to play a strategy,

I didn't say anything about
Charlotte until it was too late.

Yes.
And I still may be wrong. Mm-hm.

And as I say,
half of me hopes I'm wrong,

and half of me
really hopes I'm right, cos...

You win either way
or you lose either way.

Well, exactly. I know. So, um...

Oh, I've put, "Had a very nice steak
and slept well."

That was...

I did put a lot in here. Anyway.

It's more of a diary, isn't it?
It's more of a diary.

But I...

I just note some things
that people did

and how people voted.

And Joe Marler being very funny.
For example,

first night, first Round Table.
I suspect -

Kate, Niko, Tom, Jonathan.

Right. Well, I know Niko's wrong,
and I know Tom's wrong.

I think Kate is wrong.
Jonathan, I'm still not sure.

I've also written underlined,
"I'm an idiot."

Yes, this...
This is after I got banished.

"Became very clear I was
going to get voted off. BANISHED."

In-in-in capital letters.

Can I just say, it's fascinating
you carried on making the notes

after you were out of the game.

I've been...

I've been writing messages to myself
of what I've learned from it.

Anyway, I've written also,

"Danger of underestimating people
and indeed overestimating others."

I think one of the Traitors

is underplaying
their intelligence hugely.

And who do you think that is?

Joe Wilkinson.

And I think we are in danger
of overestimating...

I'm speaking as if I'm still
in there,

which obviously, sadly for me,
I'm not.

But we're in danger
of overestimating

Stephen's "father of the house"
status. OK.

And I think he'll think that now,
too,

unless he's a Traitor,
in which case it's working.

Now, this is a very exciting moment.

I don't know if you're excited
about this or you're dreading it.

You're going to find out
who the Traitors actually are.

Oh, I'm massively excited.
Listen, I can't wait to know.

Good. Before I do reveal it to you,

I do want to know,
who are your biggest suspects?

Who are your headline Traitors?

Well, obviously, I said Charlotte
and voted for Charlotte.

I really hope I'm wrong on that.

And I sort of wish I didn't...

I wish I hadn't done that.

Although I was suspicious of her,
I wish I hadn't done that.

I wish I'd gone for Joe Wilkinson,
actually,

so I would be super suspicious
of Joe Wilkinson,

I think he's playing
a really super clever game.

Well, and Alan, I voted for.
Yes.

Alan on the Paloma Theory. Yeah.

Which I shall continue to call it
for the rest of my life -

the Paloma Theory.

My confirmed Faithfuls,

I think, are Nick.

I think Lucy
is a confirmed Faithful.

I think Kate is, actually,

even though I suspected her
very early on,

on the basis of body language,

which I now know means nothing.

So this is really on what people say
at Round Table and how they vote.

Celia, I think, is 100% Faithful.

I'm, you know, as Joe Marler would
say, "She's a hundy."

I think Joe is a Faithful as well.

Let's find out.

I feel a bit sick.
My heart isn't racing quite as much

as it was at Round Table,
but I actually feel a bit sick.

It's a big... It's a big moment.

Jonathan. Jonathan.

I should have stuck on Jonathan.

Damn it! That... Honestly,
that makes me cross,

because I so nearly last night
went on a big one on Jonathan.

Oh!

Cat. Oh, that's funny.

Do you think Cat's doing a good job?

Cat's doing an amazing job.

An amazing job.

Cos she hasn't really been brought
up that much, you know? No.

The fact that you mentioned
her name so much, I was...

No, but Celia did.

Alan. Damn it!

I was right, and nobody listened!

You weren't far off the mark at all.

And certainly watching it,
the Alan-Paloma Theory,

I was willing you to follow it more
at the Round Table.

I'm most annoyed about Jonathan,

because I think if Charlotte
and I had trusted each other,

we'd have got him. Yeah.

Well, there we are. Oh...

I mean, you could feel the intensity
coming through the screen there.

Oh, my God. Clare wanted to find
those Traitors.

She's very competitive, isn't she?
She made notes. Yeah.

She's like a hard-boiled detective.

She was, like, really into it.
Amazing. She's made notes.

Yeah. Incredible. And she had such a
long list of confirmed Faithfuls

that were all correct. Yeah.
So maybe that is the way

she should have gone about it

is ticking off everyone
that she knew... Faithful.

Definitely. Yeah, and not a lot
of people do that, I guess,

looking at that strategy, to go,

"Well, these are the people
that I'm almost convinced are,"

because I think everyone
that's done that so far,

they've pretty much
been on the money. Yeah.

They've kind of got it right.

The detailed notes are an incredible
thing to learn about that.

Going... going back to her room every
night in her individual lodgings,

writing her detailed notes.

Paul, just remind us again
what you were doing every night.

I was reading American Psycho. Yes.

And going, "This Patrick guy
has really got something."

He's got some good ideas.
But I was also writing scripts.

I'd talk about, um, what arguments
are going to happen tomorrow.

So like, tomorrow, if this happens
and this is the way it will go,

I will say this and I will say that.

Wow-wee.

I was doing full argumentative
scripts, thinking,

"He will then pick me up on that,

"but I'll say this
and direct it this way."

Paul, with all due respect,
you should be in prison.

Yeah, I probably should be,
shouldn't I?

I think that we've lost a potential
superstar Traitor hunter in Clare...

Yeah, 100%...because she was right
about Alan,

starting to have some suspicions
about Jonathan as well. Yeah.

Yeah. No... She felt like nobody
was listening to her.

I think people would have
eventually listened to her. Yeah.

A little bit like Jazatha Christie.

Yeah. Of course. I made that...
Yeah, I'd drawn the same comparison.

Uh, we do need a detective name
for Clare, though.

Yeah, that's true, isn't it?

I've got... I've got some options,
if you want to... Go on, then.

You want to hear them?
Some options, yeah.

Clarelumbo.
That's a personal favourite.

Clarelumbo's... Yeah, yeah.

I don't think we're topping that.

Jessiclare Fletcher.

It's a reach, innit,
but I think it's fine. Yeah.

Uh, favourite one though,
Inspector Horse.

So, um... Yeah.

Right. OK. There we go.

Well, we've got so much more
to analyse over on BBC Sounds.

I'm getting Ruth back to ask her
all about the public's reaction

to her being in the castle,
and whether she thinks

trained actors find being
in the show any easier.

Plus, we need to
get the inside scoop

on all those missions
Ruth got to do.

We'll be hearing more
from Diane and Paul, too.

It's going to be a
proper love-in

for Traitors superfans,

and it's all in your
bonus episode of Uncloaked

available right now.

Scan the QR code on your screen,

then listen as
you're brushing your teeth

or take us to bed with you.

And remember,
if you reckon you've got

what it takes to be a Traitor
or a Faithful next series,

then head to bbc.co.uk/takepart
to apply.

I'm back on Wednesday

to unpack everything
from episode five,

and I'll also be chatting to
the latest players

to leave the game.

They're dropping like flies.

Remember here on Uncloaked
is where they will find out

who the Traitors are.

My thanks for now to Diane,
Paul, Ruth and Clare.

And thanks to you for watching.

I'm Ed Gamble, stay Faithful.

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