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Hello and welcome
to another episode of

the Celebrity Traitors Uncloaked,
the official visualised podcast

hosted by me, Ed Gamble.
As always, this podcast

is riddled with spoilers.
If you haven't seen episode three,

then get yourself over to iPlayer
and catch up immediately.

Coming up,
our latest banished Faithfuls,

Niko and Tameka, will be here

to give us the lowdown on
their castle experiences.

We'll also be hearing from Tom
just after he left the game.

We've got the exclusive moments

where I reveal to them
who the Traitors are.

It's not to be missed.
Plus, joining me in my basement

to discuss everything
we've just seen,

we have Maddy, from series one,

and Freddie, from series three.

We have a full agenda to get through.

Joe Marler's Big Dog Theory,

suspicion rising on
all three of the Traitors

and, of course, an early contender
for the best moment of the series,

Celia's fart in the cabin.

But first, he couldn't
keep the suspicion

off him for long and was banished
at the first Round Table.

Niko will be here in just a second.
But for now,

let's see what he had to say
just after he left the game.

Hello. Welcome, Niko.

Great to see you, Ed.
Come in. Welcome to Uncloaked.

Bring it in. Come on. I need a hug.
I need a hug. Absolutely.

You deserve it. Grab a seat.
Thanks so much for coming on.

No, thank you for having me.

We're delighted to have you here.

I mean, obviously,
we'd rather you were here

a little bit later in the game.
That's how I feel as well.

I really do wish I was here
about two weeks later.

Yeah. But, I mean, someone had
to go at the first Round Table.

I'm going to be mocked for this
for a long time by my friends.

Your friends are going to mock you,
are they?

I was talking a big game,
you don't understand.

I was talking a very big game.

So now I'm in a situation
where... when they see my face,

it's just going to be embarrassing,

and I can't even tell
them what's happened.

Yeah. The moment
I got in the coffin,

I thought, it's a long day for me,
because it was me...

Yeah... it was Lucy
and there was Paloma -

two people who everyone was saying,
they're the most Faithful people,

and then there was me. So I knew it
was a clear set-up, from the jump.

Mm-hm. And being a big fan of
the show,

I know that whenever someone
is put in a coffin,

whether they're a Faithful
or a Traitor, they always go.

They'll always get X-ed off
at the Round Table.

I think they have tried it in the
past and realise it doesn't work...

Exactly... as a Traitor, that
you put yourself into the situation

like the dungeon in series two...
Yep... and people will always

suspect you. So now, no Traitor worth
their salt would put themselves in.

Never. Never. Regardless,
even if people know that,

they still can't get rid of
that suspicion.

Oh, always...
It just brings you to the front.

Yeah. It's now,
instead of having an option

of 18 other people
other than yourself,

it's now you've got
an option of two. Yeah.

And when it's me against Lucy,
who made it so clear and obvious

that she's a Faithful,
that's why it was a smart move

from the Traitors to put me in
there, because it just meant that

the battle became just impossible.
After that, when you're out of

the coffin, you know you're
going into the Round Table...

Yeah... are you trying to
come up with a plan?

Are you trying to come up
with a defensive argument?

My mind was spinning.
I was thinking,

"What's the best direction to go?"
I was thinking, "Do I go for Tameka?

"Do I go for Tom?" What should I say
in this situation?"

"What should I say if this is
brought up?" The good thing is,

because I'm telling the truth, it's
quite easy to find those thoughts.

Mm-hm. Like, I didn't think
there was anything where

someone could say which
would catch me off-guard

because I felt like all I had
to do was tell the truth.

Yeah. But the issue was the Traitors
had done such a good job

at just setting it in to the group.

And who knows, it might
have been the Traitors

actually then continuing
the charge on me.

Like, Charlotte was
very heavy on me.

Jonathan was heavy on me
on the table.

Stephen came in on me at the table.

These are big personalities. Yeah.

But I think people's
preconceived notions

of me being a prankster,
a trickster,

all this type of stuff, it didn't
help at all. And I think it was

really good ammo for the Traitors
to use against me

which, obviously, they did.

It's an exciting moment
because you get to find out

who the Traitors are now.
I've been racking my brain

thinking who it could be,
so I'm very excited for this moment.

Well, I want to hear the result of
your brain wracking.

Have you got any big suspicions
that you want to tell me?

OK, so before the Round Table,

I thought it was Stephen.

I thought it was...

Tameka.

And I thought it was Tom.

Did your mind change during
the Round Table? Jonathan,

his reason for it being me,

he's clearly been planting that

from group to group, which is

Traitor behaviour. Mm.

So Jonathan's one.

Still has to be Tameka.

There's no doubt in my mind.

Tom, and then it could be

Joe Marler, because he said

his gut instinct was
it was me, when it wasn't.

That wasn't his gut instinct,
so that's also not true.

But also, could be Charlotte.

I'm just going to add
Charlotte as well. So,

let's put you out of
your misery. Yep.

I have the important scroll here.
Oh, gosh! I'm going to give that

to you. Thank you. There you go.

There we go. Jonathan.

Goodness me. I'm so glad here,

I said that, so I can say that
I changed my mind from Stephen

to Jonathan. Make sure all your
friends watch this bit as well.

This clip will be shared everywhere.

OK, here we go.

OK, let's see, let's see.
Next one. Next one.

Cat.

She got me.

OK. Well done, Cat.
Oh, so Cat set me up!

Oh, what?! I was so nice to Cat.

I liked her a lot,
but now I don't like her any more.

She set me up!

She put me in the coffin.

Oh, she's smart, man.

She's smart.

Oh, my gosh! Alan.

Jonathan, Cat and Alan.

I'm fuming.
So Tameka's not a Traitor.

I would have been gone anyways,
then. And it's not Tom, it's Cat.

Jonathan, Cat and Alan.

And he's here with me now.
Welcome, Niko, to Uncloaked!

Yes! Great to be here.
Great to be here.

Welcome. It's nice to have you in
a slightly more relaxed setting.

Yeah. I think you were saying to me
just before we watched that together

that you were really going
through it at that point. I was,

I was really struggling in that
moment in time because, like,

I was still in the game and I was
still trying to work out who it was.

Now, obviously, I know who it was.

Yeah. It's good to know
that I was always right.

I got a 100% hit record there,
so... Yeah.

Yeah, we've just seen it, and it's
clear to me that you knew who

all the Traitors were... Knew all
of them! ..and your mates can't

make fun of you any more. No, they
can't, and that's the best part.

How do you feel now,
now you've had some time to reflect

about being the first one
to be banished?

I'm still very gutted because
I am such a big fan of the show,

so I really was excited
to be in that setting.

But like I said there,
someone had to go.

Someone had to go, so... Yeah.
It shouldn't have been you, though,

because even at the time when we
were talking, I was saying that

it's ridiculous that they thought you
were a Traitor and you put yourself

in a coffin. Yep. Exactly.
Watching the episode now,

I'm even more angry about it...
Exactly, exactly.

Because there is no way any Traitor
would ever do that.

I've seen every single
Traitors season, right?

Every single time that happens,
they all go. Yeah.

It doesn't matter if you're a
Faithful or a Traitor, they all go.

They all get eliminated
either at the Round Table or...

Well, yeah, at the Round Table.

So I was baffled that everyone
thought that I would put myself

in that situation.
That's why I was like,

"Come on, at least give me
some other evidence that it's me."

Yeah. Do you think the majority
of them did think that,

or do you think they were
hopping on the bandwagon,

just to get someone out
that wasn't them?

Yeah. I do think there's an element
of, yeah, that self-preservation,

where people want
to keep themselves in,

so they're, "Oh, yeah,
everyone's on Niko,

"someone has to go, let it be Niko."
Maybe that's part of it as well.

Like, I didn't know anyone,

going into the show.
I didn't know anyone.

I know that some people
knew each other.

Maybe it was more like, "I don't
want to go against my friend here,

"especially on the first night.
Niko, he's an outsider.

"He can go."

We should talk about this not knowing
other people in the castle,

because I think you were relying on
people not knowing who you were.

Yes. In episode one,
we saw that your game plan was,

"I don't think these people
are going to know who I am."

Basically, what you were saying is,
these people are old,

they don't know
how to work the internet.

They're not going to know who I am.
Yeah.

And then almost the first interaction
you had was with Stephen Fry,

who said
he knew exactly who you were.

Because you're famous for
barging into places

and pretending to be things
you aren't.

How do you know that? Oh, I have
a sticky memory. Wow! Yeah.

That really spun me.
It really caught me off-guard,

because I was like, OK, well, I
knew that Stephen Fry was smart,

but now I'm like,
he must just see everything.

Yeah. Why has he watched
my YouTube videos, for number one?

And also, it was like the way
in which he knew me was like,

"Yeah, you're a prankster."
And, obviously, I do do pranks,

but that's not the only content
which I do... Yes.

So that's probably the worst way
for someone to know me.

So I was like, at least
if someone knew my content

like the back of their hand,
they'd be like, "He's a cool guy.

"He does some pranks
here and there." Yeah, yeah.

But Stephen was like,
"You are a prankster."

And whispering that
to people around,

it just got them all going. Yeah.

I think at that early stage of the
game, when no-one knows anything...

Yeah... something like
"He's a prankster," they'd be like,

"Well, of course he must be
a Traitor, then." Exactly.

"Of course they'd make the prankster
the Traitor."

Yeah. "He would want to be
a Traitor, so he is one."

Yeah. You're a huge fan of the show,
as you say. Huge, yeah.

You've seen a lot of the Traitors.

What surprised you about the reality
of being in the castle,

as opposed to watching it on TV?
It's the realism of it.

You live it. And I really
put emphasis on "live it".

Like, I was going to sleep
every night thinking,

"Who the hell could it be?"
Like, I haven't got my phone,

I haven't got any of this stuff.

I'm just playing the game
even when I'm sleeping.

Yeah. So I was dreaming about
the game.

Can you remember any of the dreams?
Yeah, it was when I had an epiphany

and I was like,
"It's Cat, Alan and Jonathan."

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah! Yeah.

And that's... Yeah. But, yeah,
I was going to reveal that

on the Round Table the day after,
but I couldn't do it.

Couldn't do it because they voted
me out. I know you weren't there

for very long, but did you strike up
any friendships with anyone?

Yes. I struck up a great
friendship with Paloma,

which is why, like...
I hugged Paloma because

I was like,
"One of us might get killed here."

Yeah. So I went and gave her a hug,
and then it ended up being evidence

against me at the table,
which was just... Yeah.

I was like... So I was so confident
in Paloma being a Faithful,

and then people ended up
using Paloma

as evidence of me being a dirty
Traitor. See, you can't do anything

in there, can you? No, you can't.
You're hugging someone goodnight

that you've made friends with, the
next thing you know, they're dead

and you've killed them by hugging
them, apparently. And I thought I was

friends with Cat, but I've still got
that knife in my back, so...

Look, your time might have been

short, but I hope you enjoyed it.
Did you have a good time

in the short time you were in there?
Yes, I did. I did enjoy the show,

yeah. Can you sum it up
in three words for me?

Um...

Not long enough. Beautiful.

Absolutely beautiful. It's been

a pleasure having you on the show.
Thank you so much. A massive

round of applause for Niko!
Thank you, everyone.

Thank you, thank you, thank you,

thank you. Well, still to come,
we'll be hearing from Tom.

But next, Maddy and Freddie
will be here in the studio,

along with our second
banished player, Tameka.

Here's the moment I caught up
with her after she left

and I revealed who the Traitors are.

Oy-oy!

Hello, Tameka.

Eddie! How you doing?

Mate! Oh, you put the fire on
for me. Just for you.

There we are. Settle down.
Oh, I love that.

Welcome to Uncloaked, Tameka.

Thank you for having me.
We're delighted to see you,

we're delighted to meet you,

but we're sad you're out
at this stage of the game.

Mate, no more than me.

No more than me.
I am so gutted I'm out.

So after that first Traitors pick...

Mm-hm... people said that
you were a bit quieter.

There was a suspicion around you
because they said you'd changed

a little bit after the Traitors pick.
I don't understand the change.

Up until today, I do not understand
the change. I will say

I was slightly disappointed
that Claudia didn't,

you know, give me a
shoulder to whinge.

You know, she didn't do that. Yeah.
But at the same time,

for me then, I was processing.
I thought, "OK, now I'm a Faithful,

"how do I play the game
as a Faithful?" Yeah.

Because in my mind,
I've always been a Traitor. Mm-hm.

So now it's like, "OK, how do I do
this?" So in the end, unfortunately,

you couldn't convince enough people
and you were...

SHE SIGHS
you were banished, but with only

four votes, that's all it took
to banish you. I'm so upset.

And I even messed up
my outro as well.

I wanted to cuss and carry on
and leave it with, "Mark."

Like, "Mark."
I didn't even get time to do that.

Yeah. But it is what it is.
But I'm hoping he's out.

Say nothing. I'm saying nothing.
Of course you're not saying

anything. I'll get in trouble.
Nobody says anything in Scotland!

Nobody says anything.

This is the exciting bit,
because you're about to find out

who the Traitors are. Who do you
think might be a Traitor? Mark.

We've got Mark in there. Too quick?

It's not too quick at all.

Why do you think it's Mark?

Take us through all of the reasons.

I think Mark because I think

we were getting close
and he didn't like that,

and he could see that I was

going to get him. Mm.

I think Miss Celie. Mm.

I think she would love the cloak.

I don't want it to be her,
but I think it could be her.

I'm thinking Nick.

Nick? Yeah.

Why Nick? He's very smart.

Yeah. And, you know, he can
play up on the baby face.

Let's talk about your

guaranteed Faithfuls.

Jonathan... Yeah.
I think is a Faithful.

I'd be gutted if he's a Traitor.

Clare. Clare. I don't think Clare.

Ruth as well, I don't think Ruth.

So, look, we've heard

your Traitor suspicions

and your guaranteed Faithfuls,

so now it's time for you to see
who the Traitors are.

There's your scroll. Wow.

Oh, here we go, here we go,
here we go.

No!

Jonathan?! But he was so nice!

You see, now, I thought it might be,
but I thought,

no, I don't want it to be Jonathan.

No! He was one of
your guaranteed Faithfuls.

At the beginning, I thought,
"Could he be?" But then I thought

it might be obvious. But he was
so nice and welcoming to me.

Shall we have a look at
the next Traitor?

I don't know!

Can we not get a commercial break?

Not on the BBC!
Oh, of course, of course.

Oh, my God, I don't know if
I can do this now!

It's... OK. It's this...

Meow?!

Meow?!

Really? Yes, really.
We wouldn't lie to you now.

Cat is a Traitor.

You had no suspicions over Cat?

No. You seem more surprised by Cat
than Jonathan.

Yeah, I really am.

Oh, no! Maybe I don't know
how to play the game.

Shall we have a look at the next one?

Just have the brandy on standby.

Alan!

You know something?
I want to go back!

Where's the driver? No, Alan!

Alan?! And these are real?

These are real. We wouldn't
make them up now, Tameka.

Do you think
you're still in the game?

Do you think this is...?

Can I throw this in the fire?
I've had enough.

And a very warm welcome
to the podcast,

Tameka, Maddy and Freddie!

Oy-oy!

Yes! Tameka, we're
absolutely thrilled

to have you here, of course, we wish
it wasn't under these circumstances.

I know, me too, Eddie, me too. Yeah.
But you're here. But it's good,

it's kind of good we get you in early
because I was excited

to see you again. Bless you, my love,
I miss you too. Yeah. And, you two,

of course. Thank you. You two,
of course. Lovely to have you back,

Maddy. Thank you.
And, Freddie, welcome back.

Finally getting to watch the show

and not being involved in it.
I know, finally, thank you. Yeah!

Maddy, I've got a question
to ask you.

As someone who's snooped a lot
in the castle... Yeah.

When you were snooping, did you
tell people you were snooping?

I think so, yeah.

It's good to lay all your cards out.

Maybe it's an actor thing. Yeah.

Just be honest and say it

how it is. Yeah. But I love you

on EastEnders, by the way.
Oh, bless you, my love, Maddy!

You do so much for the Square. Like,
you really make everyone laugh,

then they treat you like this

round the Round Table. I know.
Where's the respect, Maddy?

Where's the respect? I know.
You know what I mean? She's doing

her bit. I'm glad that you
understand, babe. Yeah, love it.

Tameka, you were obviously
very shocked by who the Traitors were

when you found out.
Oh, I was so shocked!

But now you've had a bit of distance,
is there one, in particular,

that you were more shocked by than
the others? In the back of my mind,

I thought... Jonathan. But I thought,
"No, he's nice, he's nice.

"It can't be him. It can't be."

And then, of course, it was him.

Yeah. So, funny enough, it was
Jonathan that said to me,

"Oh, everybody's going for Niko.
You should say Niko."

And I'm like, "Huh? Hello!
Is that a Traitor behaviour?"

Yeah. And then I thought,
well, actually, no,

because he hasn't shown me anything

to show me that he is a Traitor.

So I didn't vote for Niko,

and I really felt for Niko. I think
he got done dirty from, like,

misconceptions of, like,
because he's a great gamer

and stuff like that. So I think
people would have already...

That's what I'm saying,
with Celebrity Traitors,

you all kind of know each other.

Whereas when we went in it,
we're all random strangers. Yeah.

Yeah. I could be like... I mean,
you could tell if I was lying,

anyway, but you could... I don't
know what these people were like,

so, like, it doesn't matter.
But with you guys,

you know what everyone's like. Well,
everyone's grasping at straws anyway,

right? But they've almost got them
before they even go into the castle.

Exactly. They're like,
"Well, he does pranks on YouTube,

"so we could probably use that."

You know, "You're an actor, we might
be able to use that." I know.

Yeah. So let's talk about
the missions, Tameka.

Oh! In this episode,
we saw you being greeted by Druids.

Firstly, how did it feel,
seeing those guys?

They seem pretty intimidating.
Mate, I...

I don't do horror films, right?

I don't do horror films,
I don't do forests.

I don't do mud.

So, hang on... I don't do insects.
What do you mean, you don't

do forests? You don't want to go
in them? You don't want to look at

pictures of them? If we're driving
through it, we can drive through,

I don't want to stop. Yeah.
And then once we got into the cabin,

I thought, "Do me a favour!"

Well, let's remind ourselves
of that moment.

Ugh!

It's filling up, though.

Look, it's
filling up. Agh!

ALAN: It's filling up.
You're not

going to drown, Tameka, are you?

Are you all right?
Do you want to go?

I need to get out.
I can't...

I can't help you.
I can't help you in here.

Yeah.

Yeah, I thought I was going to drown
because it was filling up.

It wasn't filled, it was filling.
Yeah.

I mean, even before
all the water started

and you were locked in the cabin,

it wasn't long
until things got scary and stinky.

Quite literally.

Celia's fart. Let's have a look.

Welcome to the worst team-building

awayday experience in history.

What just happened?

I just farted, Claudia.

Oh! Oh! She's amazing. Miss Celie.

I love that she owned it.

That was... I just thought...
So brilliant. So true. Absolutely.

Just let it go if you need to.
Good on her. Yeah, let it out.

Own up to it. Everyone loved her for
it. I don't think there's anyone else

who could have gotten away with that.

I don't think so. No.
But under pressure as well,

you just can't control your bowels.
Do you know what I mean?

Like, I only fart
once every six months.

Honestly. Honestly. OK.
Maddy, what are you talking about?

No, no, I'm serious, I hardly fart.
I wish I only farted

once every six months. Wow!
I will say as well

that Celia has approved that
being included.

Aw! In this case, it's better in
than out for her. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. Let's hear it for
Miss Celia, guys.

Yeah. Yeah, I love her. Yeah.

One of the finest television farts
of all time.

Well, it's time to hear

from our final player, Tom.
Here's what happened

when I met him
just after he left the game,

including him finding out which
dastardly Traitors murdered him.

Hello. Welcome to Uncloaked.

Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for coming.

Take a seat.
I can't believe I'm dead.

How does it feel to be murdered?

You know, it feels painful
to get murdered.

I went in there
wanting to be a Traitor,

mainly because I like control.
So I feel like that would have been

a good opportunity to
be able to control it.

But then as soon as
I started playing as a Faithful,

I loved that as well,
because I was...

It was then I wanted to regain
as much control as possible.

And my whole game plan was to try
and fly under the radar, and then

I couldn't keep my mouth shut.

I think this is an issue a lot of
people are having in there, though.

Yeah. I think people are trying
to be quiet and trying...

But this is not why
anyone's a celebrity.

No-one's a celebrity
because they're a wallflower.

They keep their mouth shut. Yeah,
exactly. They're used to gabbin'.

Now, this is a very exciting
moment... Oh, I'm actually nervous.

And I know it's a moment
you've been waiting for

for a long time. Yeah. You're going
to find out who the Traitors are.

I'm going to make you wait
a little bit longer...

Ah! ..because I want to know
from you

who you think they are,
before I reveal it.

Clare and Kate were people that

I was on quite early on. So why

did you think Clare and Kate?
Well, there was just

something about them that just,
like, felt like it changed

and they started taking way more
control than they did have,

in terms of the presence they had
before the Round Table.

Celia certainly got way more

confident after the Round Table,

the way she kind of like danced

into the bar, that I was like,

"What? You didn't say anything
to me before,

"and then, all of a sudden..."
And I was like,

"What's going on here?"
And then also, she was saying,

"These Traitors are so smart."

And I was like, it would be genius,

if she was a Traitor to, like,

back her up. Yeah. I think Stephen

could be a Traitor,

Alan, I think, because

I confided in him a lot. Mm-hm.

I think he would make
a great Traitor.

He was very easy to deflect

with humour, and just kind of like

change the subject. "Ha-ha!

"Yeah, I'm a killer!" And I'm like,

"Well, yeah, you could be,
actually."

And then

Lucy, towards the end,
made me think,

oh, you could be a great Traitor

because you give off
the innocent act

and, actually, I feel like
you have... you've got

some daggers in there,
somewhere. OK.

Oh! I kind of don't want to know!
Shall we see?

Oh, all right, I'll just chuck it on
the fire, then! Wait, don't chuck it

in the fire! I want to know!
There we go. OK. Oh, my gosh!

I'm actually really scared
about this. So one by one,

let's see the names.

Mm. Jonathan.

Not mentioned there by you
beforehand. No.

I can see that.
So it makes sense to you, Jonathan?

Yeah, I think it could make sense.

Like, it's the game, isn't it?
Like, you've got to go undetected.

Yeah. Can I go to the next one?

Yeah. Let's see if
this person makes sense.

Cat.

But why would they get rid of me?

Out of Jonathan and Cat,

I don't understand
why they would kill me yet.

You wanted to rattle the Traitors,
but do you think maybe

you rattled them slightly too much?

That might make sense
why I've been murdered.

Can I go to the next one? Yes.

There it was.

You said Alan. It makes sense.

That first night, you know,
we had this thing, and I looked him

in the eye, and I was like,
"You're a Trait..." I said something

about him being a Traitor,
then he went, "Ha-ha, yeah!",

and then he turned away, like,
really quickly. Yeah.

I just didn't want to see it
be Alan. But you got it right,

you should be happy! Yeah,
but I'm not in the game any more!

It doesn't matter!

Oh!

OK. Well, can I find out how
they got killed in plain sight?

No, I can't tell you that, Tom.
You're joking?!

So, Tom got it right with Alan,

but he never brought it up
at the Round Table,

and it didn't matter anyway
because they murdered him.

How cruel a move do you think
it was to murder Tom, Freddie?

I can't believe Tom Daley
has gone out this early.

But I would say if you just look at
his face, he just gives Faithful.

Like, there's no world
where he would be a Traitor.

He's very cute. So, like... Yeah.

It's probably an obvious choice
to murder him.

But he did have a bit of heat
on him. There was some discussions

about Tom at the Round Table.
So why would you, as a Traitor,

then murder someone who might come
up for banishment the night after?

Because he's like the adorable one.

Like, he's not the one that
you're going to want to...

So you don't think he would
have been banished?

No, I don't think so. Unless
it whittled down to near the end

and you're like, "Oh, double bluff."
I'm not sure. He might have been

banished, I think. So we've got
Joe Marler talking to Joe Wilkinson

about what they're now calling
the Big Dog Theory.

Love that. Yeah. Yeah.
Jonathan Ross leading the Traitors,

Stephen Fry leading the Faithful.
I think it's a genuinely

brilliant theory, to give it a name
as well - the Big Dog Theory.

He brought it up at the Round Table
as well.

Mm. Did you consider that
that was maybe the case, Tameka?

Yeah, because you've got
the big personalities.

And also, they're quite tall as
well. Do you know what I mean?

Quite intimidating as well. Yeah,
yeah. Especially to me, anyway.

You know? And it is one
of those things where,

you know, he could be the
favourite because he's...

Stephen is so intelligent. Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?

You could just say one subject

and he will just talk
and you will be educated.

You're like, you just
marvel at his brain.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
And then again,

equally, in a different way,
Jonathan as well,

he's got a big personality and he's
very comfortable to talk with,

and you could see that he could
easily lead you down the wrong road.

I think with Jonathan,
I think that will be his downfall,

because he's very, like, talkative,
and I think he'll just say

the wrong thing. Like, he's already
done it to Ruth, saying about

the alliance thing. I think he
just doesn't realise how much

he's talking. Like, Cat,
on the other hand, is very, like,

under the radar. And everything
she's said, she's thought about.

You can tell there's been a lot of,
like, detail and strategy and that.

Whereas Jonathan kind of like,
even when he said to Alan,

"Do you have a few words?", like,
that's a bit backstabby, kind of.

So... Yeah. Yeah. So the episode
ended with the Traitors discussing

who they're going to murder, and it's
between David, Ruth and Charlotte.

Which of those do you think would be

the smartest move by the Traitors?

David. David. Yeah. He's got
glasses, he looks intelligent.

They'd better not kill Ruth.
You know?

I think if they kill Ruth,
that's going to be a bit much.

So out of order. I think Charlotte.
Yeah. I think Charlotte or David.

Really? Just not Ruth.
Just not Ruth.

Protect Ruth at all cost, she's
getting it right. Yeah, I agree.

She's amazing. Now, Tameka,
you said you were unhappy

with the exit speech that you gave,
so we on Uncloaked

would like to give you an opportunity
to redo your leaving speech. Oh.

So, please,
finally get it off your chest.

What did you want to say?

I would have said...

no.

No, no, no, no, I'm not going...

because I'm the best person
you've ever had in here, Claudia,

and there's no way I'm going.
No, no!

♪ No, no, no way
I'm living without you

♪ You're gonna live without me

♪ I'm not going to be free

♪ Because I'm staying

♪ I'm staying

♪ And you, and you

♪ And, Mark, you're
gonna love me... ♪

is what I would have said.

It's what I would have said, though!
Yes, Tameka!

It's what I would have said.

Merci beaucoup, guys.
Tameka, Freddie, Maddy, it's been

an absolute pleasure
having you here on Uncloaked.

Thank you very much for being here.

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