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The Jews of Hebron are heroes.

There are 500 of them, surrounded by 120 ,000 very, very

hostile Muslims.

The settlers in Hebron are illegally being there.

What's wrong with Jews living in Hebron? Why is that illegal?

This is our land and the Arabs know that and they have Mecca and they have

Medina. This is our holy city and we're going to stay there.

There's no place under the occupation that I hate more than Hebron.

There's no place in the occupation that I hate more to go and visit than Hebron.

And I'm doing my best to be there as little as possible.

Because in Hebron you get really the occupation in its most brutal, cruel,

insane, crazy expression.

It is really the plate of evil.

We are from the place where the settlers lived in Ketel Irmaida, here, from

1982.

We live here, our house is here on the right, the settlers live here on the

left. We used to pass through this street, and we would bring our planes to

enter, and my plane would stop at the door of the house here.

This is the settlement of my plane, and I am not allowed to enter my plane.

. .

. . .

We were here, there was no network here. It was all dark and dark.

And when the fire broke out, they put us under control. Every house we have has

a network. If the fire breaks out anywhere, we have to stay there. If the

breaks out anywhere, we have to stay there. We have to stay there. We have to

stay there.

Thank you very much.

Timi Chavron is being a pioneer like in the beginning of

the State of Israel.

There are different types of swamps that people have to deal with. Then there

were swamps and malaria.

Now there are security problems and people who question our right

to living here. And by living here, we're stating a fact, and the fact is

Chavron... is the heart of the Jewish country.

And it's where it all began.

And we just want to have natural Jewish life here.

Where did

he

fall?

Today,

in this situation in Israel, in Israel land, there are many, many questions.

are we here? Or may we give anything to our enemies?

We are in the middle of a war, even if we're not saying it loudly.

And I think that in Hebron, there are not questions.

There are only answers. We're here because of our patriarch, that God

them that the land belongs to us.

You can say this is the

essence. The hard core of the occupation.

Because there are settlers living inside the middle, the kasbah, the center of a

Palestinian city.

And you have the Palestinians there. And they are very extreme.

And there is an army that's protecting them and protecting the Palestinians

against the settlers.

So you have all the elements for a Greek drama, you know. This is the essence of

the occupation.

You know it's a provocation. You know it's a provocation. You came to do a

provocation. It's a private area, by the way. You came to film. Very nicely.

You came here, Arabs, who are forbidden to film.

Very, very, very.

After that, you'll come to film our parts, too. We love you from the bottom

our hearts.

We love you.

We love you. We love you. We love you. We love you.

We love you.

I think the camera is protecting me. I can be in situations that without

will be much more hard to bear.

And with the settlers, you're seeing stuff here and sometimes thinking, these

people, what can we do with them? Because it's so crazy.

I wish they had a normal life. Let's hate. Because they hate. All the time

hate. You see it in their eyes.

You see in the body language, they're full of hate.

We are living in a liberal democracy with a free press and all of the other

things that we take for granted in a democracy. And yet the reality in the

occupied territories is very, very different.

And surprisingly, in spite of the free press, in spite of the fact that you

hundreds of journalists.

covering the situation, it remains the case that the Israeli public really

doesn't know what is taking place in the occupied territories.

And I think they don't know because they choose not to know.

There was a war in 1948,

a very long war, a very cruel war in which Israel

gained 78 % of the country of Palestine as it existed before.

There was another war in 1967 in which Israel conquered the rest

of Palestine.

And the moment this war was finished and we saw this huge territory which we had

conquered, there was a natural desire

by some people, to annex it to Israel.

And after a few weeks and a few months passed by and we suddenly saw there's no

pressure at all on Israel to give back these territories, then slowly

some people said, why not?

Why shouldn't we get there and put our settlements there?

The idea was to annex these territories. Wherever there is a settlement, the

idea is to annex.

The obstacle is that there is a Palestinian people living there.

Then the question arises, how do you annex all these territories with 2 .5

million or 3 million Arabs, Palestinians in them?

And there are some people who say, just take these 2 .5 million Palestinians

and... pushed them out of Palestine, as we did to half the Palestinian people in

1948. So these are the settlers. These are the extreme settlers.

And the most extreme are in Hebron.

They throw it at us, at the people crossing the street.

That's why they put it there, as a protection for us.

Because the stones don't come down on us, they throw water at us. They throw

dirty things at us, that come down from the network, that can cross the network.

Dirty water from the washing machine.

Dirty water that has chemical substances in it. They throw it at people.

The army eats in plates. They send their leaders to them in plates.

They eat in their hearts and throw them at people.

What do we want to say? If you want to talk, we will talk in newspapers.

We will talk in newspapers.

It's probably the only city in the West Bank and Gaza, the occupied Palestinian

territory, to have settlements that are implanted at the heart of the city. And

really the result of that is the slow death of the Palestinian population

for the benefit of the expansion of these settlements.

You can see this as a trend since 2000, since the beginning of the recent

intifada with the closures.

of all entry points into the old city.

What we have since 2000 is closed areas where no Palestinian vehicle movement

is allowed.

Another area where Palestinians are not allowed to go through and no presence of

Palestinians is allowed.

And then you have closed shops.

You can't pass freely. You can't go freely to your hospital, to your home.

You can't go freely to another village, to another city.

You can't go to your university.

More and more Palestinians are leaving.

They are not allowed to open their shops.

They are not allowed to access their homes.

Even inhabitants are searched whenever they go in and out.

They are doing everything possible to pressure people, to make them

leave the old city.

so that settlers can take control.

This is

a

supermarket. This is a studio.

This is a bakery.

All the shops were open here.

People are living here.

400 people live here.

They closed the country.

Living here is really coming back to the Jewish roots.

It's the first Jewish city.

We know that Abraham and Sarah and Isaac and Rebecca and Jacob and Leah are

buried here. And according to Jewish tradition, even Adam and Eve are buried

here. So it's bringing up a Jewish family in the place of the Jewish roots,

the basis of the Jewish people.

Countries in the world, they would be defined as fascists, if not worse.

There are a bunch of 500 or so people whose aim in life is

to drive out 160 ,000 Palestinians whom they consider as strangers.

These people who have come 30 or 40 or 50 years ago from Europe.

I believe it's important for everyone to come and see what's going on here and

not just have their impression from the news, because the news is very slanted.

When people come, they show that this is a place where people can walk around

and visit and feel normal in, and it's not what they see on the

news, where they think it's just a military zone.

I think, you know, a lot of soldiers come here, and in the beginning they

you know,

this is like an army base.

And then they realize that this is not an army base, this is a place where

Jewish people live.

I remember in the year 2000, 2001 and 2002 and 2003, the whole 30

,000 inhabitants of the old city of Hebron were under curfew, 200 days

in the year. That lasted for two to three years.

This caused Palestinian police to shift from the old city outside.

I served in Hebron in two different periods of time. I came first as a

in the end of 2001 till middle of 2002.

Then I came back as a commander in March 2003 till like around December.

And the first two, three weeks that we came to Hebron, when we went down to the

city, you were all shocked.

You know, you're sent to wheeled shops and doors of Palestinians' houses.

You see sterilized streets where Palestinians are forbidden to walk and

Jews are allowed to walk there. You have to force curfews all the time, invade

houses on a daily basis.

You go and walk in the streets and you find yourself in front of graffiti

probably in Germany.

It sounds familiar, better than to us.

Such as Arabs to the gas chambers, gas the Arabs, Arabs out with the stars of

David and Hebrew in the middle.

And there was a group of Michael Platoon in the beginning.

We were shocked.

We didn't believe what's going on.

You come to a place that we have two sets of law by definition, that the

are that you have to protect the settlers, and if you see them attacking

Palestinians, you're not allowed to arrest them.

Of course, there are many military people who are being sent there and come

from there full of hatred against the settlers.

because the settlers are treating these military people as servants.

They treat the military as a kind of personal security detachment whose job

to obey and serve the settlers.

But the Israeli army has been infiltrated for many years now by the

and in Hebron this is very obvious. The army is a part of the settlement. The

settlement is closely connected with the army.

The security presence in Hebron is heavy.

Unfortunately, there are people who are trying to kill us.

Many of the terrorists that wander around trying to blow themselves up

from Be 'er Sheva up to Haifa have come out of Hebron.

And the military presence here is to protect us, but it's also to try to weed

out these terrorists and sit to it that they don't get to Tel Aviv and blow

themselves up.

Although legally they are there to protect everyone, to impose the law on

everyone, the actual soldier stationed there understands his job as protecting

the settlers and stopping Palestinian terror.

Okay, so we will start.

Probably will be guided by...

David Wilder, to the left, and Ofel.

David is the spokesman for foreign press of the settlement of Hebron, and Ofel

is documenting our work.

I just offered them to speak with you guys, to give their point of view, and

they refused because they say they don't cooperate with traitors during the

wartime like today, traitors like me.

So you will get only one perspective today, and I'm sorry for that.

I don't call him military.

Yudas Shaul, who leads the group, in any other normal country, they would put

him on trial for treason and hang him.

But unfortunately, Israel hasn't reached that level yet of justice.

People express their opinions.

Some people are put in jail when they express their opinions because it's

incitement and whatever.

He does what he does.

That's considered to be legitimate.

However... I don't relate to them too much importance.

Around the beginning of 2004, when I was in a platoon sergeant, I started to sit

down and try to imagine my life as a civilian.

And for me, that moment, I don't know how you can call it, but I find it

difficult in Hebrew to describe it, and for sure in English, but maybe you can

call it an enlightenment moment.

For me, this moment of trying to think as a civilian, stop thinking as a

professional combat soldier.

It's like, I don't know, you wake up every morning in front of the mirror,

brush your hair, you brush your teeth, you see your face, you smile to

That morning you wake up, you stand in front of the mirror and suddenly you see

horns on your head.

You realize that you're a monster. You realize, you know, that in the past two

years and ten months it was the helmet, gun, and uniform acting something else,

that it's not Judah.

But when you think of it one second, you realize that it is you, that it's not

the uniform that we're acting without a person.

It's you, and you can't take it away.

You start to realize that something mad went on.

And for me, when I realized that, I felt that I can't continue my life without

doing something with it.

And the best way to do it is to bring people to the field, to let them to

to touch, to smell, to see.

And to confront the society with the moral price of that situation.

When you love somebody very, very much, and you love something very much, by

nature, you stare at that person, you stare at that thing, you can't keep your

eyes off of that person or place or thing.

And you know, God created the whole world, but his headquarters is Eretz

Yisrael. There are many Jewish communities, and not only Jewish

which understand the importance of Hebron to the Jewish people.

the significance of Hebron, the significance of Jews living here.

And people are able to express that support in different ways.

Some people come to visit, some people send letters, some people wish to donate

some of their money.

And I think that that proves, without any doubt, that people understand the

importance of a Jewish community here in Hebron.

Our next stop, we'll go to a museum and learn about 1929.

Welcome everyone to Beit HaNassim.

1929, my friends.

The Jewish community here lives in a disillusion that they actually have

peaceful coexistence with the Arab neighbors.

And they feel that here they're safe.

Here nothing bad will happen to them.

Here the Arabs would never dare attack or make problems.

Here you can see a little bit the people that were killed and murdered.

67.

And remember, in 1929 there was no West Bank.

We're not settlers, we're not settlers, we're not the Galapagos.

And look what they did to us back then.

This is just a little flavor of what they wanted to do to us today.

During that year in August of 1929, there were riots throughout Israel.

Those riots climaxed in Hebron itself here, where 67 Jews were murdered and

another 70 were wounded.

And the people who survived were expelled. They were thrown out by the

who were then ruling here.

And as a result of that, basically, the Jewish community came to an abrupt end.

So it's something that I try to stress, which people have a difficult time

accepting, but what can you do? It's the truth.

When we came to Hebron in 1967, we didn't occupy a foreign city. We came

home. We came back to the first Jewish city in the land of Israel.

Why don't you look at the faces of those Jews who were killed?

Sanctify God's goodness.

The narrative of the settlement, their claim starts from, we are a continuation

to the Jewish community who lived there, was deported from there by the

massacre.

And that's not the truth.

Of course, there are some people who come from families who lived there that

agree with the settlement.

But there are lots.

who come from the Jewish community of Hebron, who are against, you know,

fundamentally against the settlement of Hebron, fundamentally against the idea

that 650 people can, you know, have all their rights in the back of 150 ,000

people.

Shana Azub, Shana Taimzayim, Shana Oz.

It's a memory, it's a shayta part, a testimony of what our rabbis said,

there is no Oz in the Torah.

It also includes the simple fact that there is no Oz in the Torah.

And the inner Oz is a special point that was

here in Hebron.

Usually in Jewish holidays or weekends, a lot of people come, a lot of settlers

from Kiryat Alba, a lot of people, visitors from Jerusalem, from outside.

And one of the biggest fears of the IDF was his, that some of the Palestinian

snipers will sit down here, I don't know, one of the houses in Abu Sinan,

will just slot everyone, all the prayers will walk around the streets.

So how do you deal with it?

For sure, weekends or in holidays, you post curfew on the Palestinians.

Friday morning, you divide all the Palestinian neighborhoods around the

settlement.

You go, you search all the houses, you finish your own round, take a rest in

of the houses, you lock the family in one room, you put observers on, go to

sleep. After three hours you wake up, it's time for the second round.

And again, that's another aspect of what it was to live here.

When they come to check the house, they ask me to collect all of the family, put

them in the kitchen or in one room. They take off all of the clothes, the bags,

the bed, all of that.

And many times they come to the house, they said all of the family outside.

But I said, I don't care.

I remember one night we stay.

from one o 'clock after midnight until four o 'clock four o 'clock and it was

raining over our head and they said they want to check the house and they know

nothing at the house and they had never found anything in the house because we

have nothing 1968

but after the six -day war and the great

military victory that God gave to us.

The Israeli government already back then wasn't sure, what are we going to do

with the areas we've liberated in 67?

Let Jews stay, let Jews move there, don't let Jews move there.

And at that time, Ramosha Levinga and his rabbits in Mirim Levinga get

and they advertise in the Israeli newspapers, come spend Pesach downtown

Hawk Hotel.

And no sauna, and no swimming pool, and no great musical entertainers.

Glacier had a one -star hotel, windows provided if you pay extra money, 30

families registered for the Passover service.

They were there in this hotel.

Then the government decided to take them out of there and put them into the

military government building, which was an old British police fortress.

And then they multiplied, and really the military government could not function

anymore. They just turned the military government building into a private

settlement. So the government decided, let them take out of Hebron, let's put

them into a new settlement called Kiryat Arba. In 1970, Golda Meir came along,

said, I got the solution, and that solution is called Kiryat Arba. And she

this beautiful, beautiful suburb with low -interest mortgages, cheap housing,

Olympic -sized swimming pool, really, thrown a jacuzzi, tennis court.

It became a big fascist -dominated settlement, the center of all fascist

elements in Israel.

And then they started from Kiryat Arba to infiltrate again back into Hebron. So

slowly, little step after little step after little step after little step,

occupied this part of Hebron, where, as you know, even in this part, the

settlers are a small minority and they terrorize.

the Arab majority into this quarter of Hebron.

From the time of the uprising, they closed down the main door that we used

get out of.

We still have a little bit left to go to Khafif, to steal from the settlers.

But it's been four years since they took us from Marra.

Now we're going to go to the neighbors' house. We're going to go to the

neighbors' house, and we're going to bear the difficulties and suffering, and

the slums and the walls, so we don't leave our house for the Jews and the

settlers to take.

This is a settlement.

This is a settlement.

This is a settlement. This is a settlement. This is a settlement.

This is a settlement.

This is a settlement.

Even if we don't go out, we want to stay at home.

We want to stay at home comfortably. But we don't know how to cross the door of

our house.

Most people stay here.

We don't know how to live here.

We don't know how to live here. We don't know how to live here.

I have no doubt that if today another 200 ,000 Jews moved into Judea and

Samaria, a lot of the Arabs who were here would pick up and leave.

We don't have to throw them out. I don't know that today I favor that. I'm not

looking for forced expulsions of everybody.

But I have a feeling that if they see masses of people coming over, not to

their homes away from them, just to settle in the lands here, a lot of them

just leave.

Any normal human being have a specific set that was beyond

this point. I cannot take it anymore.

My children cannot take it anymore.

So I'm going to have to leave.

So this is my fear. My fear is that the migration of the Palestinian population

is going to continue and that the Israelis...

The Jewish settlers are going to attain their goal to transform the old city

into a Jewish enclave or a Jewish ghetto that no Palestinians are allowed to go

through it or live in it.

Basically, it is a fight about land.

As I wrote it two weeks ago, a fight about real estate.

And the territory is the main core. I'm not among those who think that this

dispute in the Middle East is a religious one.

It is a nationalistic one. And the main dispute is about land.

Look even at the transfer.

There was a real transfer in Hebron. Nobody talks about it.

There are something about 15, 20, 25 ,000 people who had to leave their

It is just because those crazy people tyrannized their neighbors until they

had to leave.

Now, the Chordastri that we're just walking on used to be the main part of

Hebron market.

Try to imagine in your head an oriental market of a city of 150 ,000 people.

Since 1994, it's closed down. In the beginning of the Second Intifada, the

Shohada Street was announced as a sterilized street, meaning Palestinians

prevented even to walk here, not only drive, not only open the shop, even to

walk.

The Palestinians have many, Arab states with huge territories, if they want a

Palestinian Muslim government, they can have that in Saudi Arabia, in Syria, in

Iraq, in Iran, in Morocco, all those places where the Arabs live, in Egypt,

Jordan. We believe in the divine promise to this country, to the Jewish people,

people who would like to live as...

As guests here, they're invited, but to think that they can run the country,

that's not possible.

There's enough states to the Arabs. There is not Palestinian nation.

There is not. There was not a nation before we came here, and they are not

today. They came from many, many lands and states.

They were Bedouin.

That's what they was.

There was not Arabs here before we came here. There was only some hundreds.

100 ,000? This is not what we are talking today.

And we have to look at the eye and everyone in the world and say, that's

their land.

The settlers in Hebron and people like them have a clear -cut solution

for the conflict. That is ethnic cleansing.

Pure and simple. All the Arabs.

All the Palestinians have to leave Palestine.

If you want on the book of Joshua in the Bible, God commanded Joshua to kill

every non -Israeli in the country.

And after 3 ,000 years or so, they stick to it. At dawn in the cave

of the patriarch, sacred to both Arabs and Jews.

Baruch Goldstein opened fire with an automatic rifle. Entered the mosque in

army uniform and opened fire. A settler opened fire in a crowded mosque in the

West Bank town of Hebron. At least 40 Palestinians were killed, scores more

wounded. Minutes earlier, these people had been praying, celebrating the Arab

fast of Ramadan.

They were mercilessly gunned down by an Israeli settler. It is one of the most

militant settlements on the West Bank, and he was among its most militant

members. I must remind you that Goldstein not only killed so many

he is directly responsible to all this wave of suicide bombers who

started only after his massacre.

Would I be a Palestinian?

I can tell you when you see Hebron and you see what's happening to them, you

only come to one conclusion.

that the Palestinians are one of the most tolerant people in the world.

Even, I would say, one of the less violent people in the world.

Because any people would explode if people would have done what they are

there.

My name, Asma Dandesh.

I am the owner of this house.

I am with my family, and we used to live here since 50 years.

So it was occupied by... It's now occupied by 20 people.

Up there? Up there. They are staying there.

But I needed to know... We've heard that they have taken another house. Which

house? This house. My neighbor.

Who? What's his name? His name is Shaarawi. He's my neighbor. He was

inside this house, and then he go outside to this land.

outside the cities to stay a few weeks as in summer usually, they come in.

And when we talked to the army, he said, okay, okay. Then he closed this door to

us and opened that door for the settlers. This is what did by the

government of the army.

Well, if they are still going to be thinking that they are God's chosen

well, we do not believe that God is a real estate agent saying, okay, this

is for you guys and this land is for you.

For me specifically, if there's going to be a God, one of his most important

merits is that he's going to be just, that he's going to be fair.

He's not going to be saying, okay, these are my people and the rest of the

people is trash.

This is something that it's not just us as Palestinians.

No other people will accept that, that treat us as less than human.

And not only that, you're going to take our land and deprive us of all of our

rights. Nobody, nobody will accept that.

We're going now to visit one of our friends, Al -Azhar family, Ashim Al

who lives in Tel Romeda.

For sure, the main and the right way to go to Tel Romeda would be probably up

the hill in the junction.

Take a left, but there are settlement and the Palestinians can't walk there in

front of the settlement They're only way in and out out through the way that

will go down

You

see this is the part of

court of a school as you see from here And you see the girls, the girls here,

they are waiting for the children until they come from here.

And as they said, as you see, kill all of the Arabs.

They said in Arabic, kill all of the Arabs.

This is what they said. And this is Israel. Israel, there is no Palestine.

is the land of Israel.

The Jewish citizen's child learns from his first steps how he hates

Arabs.

He is reprimanded for hating Arabs to the extent that the first word he says

that he hates every Arab.

He knows that their attack is clear, so we film the attacks that take place. We

film them in the video, and we send them the video that they are the ones who

are being attacked, and we are the ones who are being attacked.

They will come to our house and they will be on our side as well.

And we are the victims and we are the ones who are being arrested.

We can't just say this is a crazy group and we have nothing to do with it.

We Israelis, we all carry responsibility to what is happening in Hebron.

And therefore so many times I feel myself deeply ashamed to be Israeli when

see those things.

Because it's on my behalf.

Those people are there under my government, under my state.

And I'm part of it and each of us Israelis are part of it. And each of us

Israelis are paying the price.

Life is not easy in Hebron, but we get much more.

We get meaning.

We get the knowledge that we are doing something important.

Of course, for the Jewish people, for the Jewish history, for the world of

but not only, because we are doing something very important to the whole

Now the whole world tries to find a way how to...

to stand against the terror, against the Islamic terrorism.

And we show a way, we show the way to say terror should stop.

And it should stop here.

Look, please, will you stop them instead of... Will you please stop?

Will you please use some brains?

They are the ones who are attacking.

That one hit me.

Sorry, you didn't speak.

Beating, hitting, insulting is one of settler practices of their daily life on

daily basis. And that, again, reflected in a number of attacks that took place

against internationals who will come in and they are outraged by the way that

these settlers are behaving.

and they try to reduce to the least number of incidents of beatings against

Palestinians, and they are seen by the settlers as misrepresenting history, and

that it's a given fact that we are the chosen people, and you as international

are supposed to be actually siding by us against Arabs and Palestinians, because

this is what God has said.

As a Black South African, I can't comprehend what Israel is trying to do

Palestinians.

You know, they were trying to compare the two scenarios.

But for me, they're incomparable.

We didn't have high walls.

We never had a single exit and entry point.

We never had a street that was per se only for the other group of people. But

could, one way or the other, go to the same town, enter the same shops.

But here, it's not comparable.

You know, they usually call it apartheid, but for me, it's

This, for me, is very distrustful.

Hey, Nazi!

I'm old enough to remember what a Nazi is.

Nazi!

We do school patrols at all the schools at the other end of town.

But there is another organization, the Ecumenical Accompanyers in Palestine.

Their volunteers concentrate on patrolling here.

And they stay for the morning at the school and then make sure that the

come home again.

And every time there are international people, they've got no problem with the

schedule?

Oh, yes, they had problems with the second school, yes.

Of course we oppose these groups being here.

For them to come from where they're coming from, it would be if I walked

hospital and walked into an operating room and said, I'm here, let me help.

The doctor's got the patient open and you've got five doctors working and the

anesthesiologist and the nurses. And here I am, I'm all set, give me a knife.

They'd look at me and say, but you don't know anything.

You're going to kill him.

And the kids know this as well as we do.

You and your fucking Jesus can kiss my ass, okay?

Go away.

Screw you.

Don't camera.

No camera.

I break your camera. Don't take picture.

Okay? Screw you, you Nazi.

You fuck.

Don't take camera. I break your camera. Don't take picture.

No picture.

We don't want picture.

You can't come in here. This is not your house.

I would like to see the international community support us and

give us backing in this activity and to understand that their

homes are now in danger. You see, the Islamic terrorism...

attack the whole world now.

And if we do not put an end, put a wall against this terror, all Europe is in

danger. All the Western society.

This is my land. This is not your land. It belongs to these families.

You son of a bitch.

I'm going to kill you and the person.

You son of a shit.

This is my house. This is my land.

God gave it to me.

And fuck you.

Most of the Israelis have not a slightest idea what's going on in

media hardly shows them. Nobody wants them to know.

And we became a society which cares only about itself, and even this,

less and less.

And all the rest, we have this wonderful excuse of security.

If this doesn't work, we can always bring up the Holocaust.

citing the late Golda Meir who said that after the Holocaust the Jews have the

right to do whatever they want.

And that's the way of thinking.

And human rights is really something for Europeans alone, but not for our

reality. We are not dealing with it. We deal only with our faith.

He created the world and he gave Israel to the Jews.

And Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are my forefathers. Do you dispute that?

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are my forefathers. Are you disputing that?

What is your children?

I first want to speak truth.

I first want to speak about children. No, no.

Just realize that this is the heart geographically and spiritually of the

people. This is where it all began.

The whole world knows the Bible.

And the Bible, has a lot, a lot of promises that were promised to

the Jewish people. A lot of them were promised in Hebron or about Hebron.

So I just believe the world has to go back to the Bible and then they can

understand what Hebron's all about. Tell your children not to hurt these

children. That's all I have to say to you. You pardon me. I'm living here. I

know what goes on here. I live here too. I know what goes on here. I'm living

here for over...

30 years, and I know exactly what's going on here.

And the problem is that we have a Bible, and

our Bible was stolen, was plagiarized.

I find it very hard to understand how they can feel like that.

And equating us with Nazis and what we're doing with the Holocaust,

Seems to me a quite extraordinary reading of what's gone on in the last

60 years.

I was a child in Britain during the Second World War when the entire

efforts of the whole nation were devoted to defeating

Nazism and Hitler.

Where we welcomed and cheered on as a young woman the foundation of the state

Israel, it seemed, faced with the horrific discovery of

the extent of what had gone on in the Holocaust, that for the Jewish people to

have a land of their own seemed so entirely right.

And, of course, I didn't understand that this was going to be at the expense of

the existing.

You're swimming in hypocrisy, all of you. You're all a bunch of anti

And you want to see the end of the Jews.

And because of that, you think you use the Arabs. You use the Arabs.

Who beat him then? Who beat him?

Who? Who beat him?

Who beat the boy?

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

Thank you.

Oh,

this is disgusting.

There is an imminent corruption process, moral corruption process, that is part

of occupation.

When you take an 18 -year -old man, you dress him with uniform, you give him a

gun and the power to control people, it's like a mask equation.

One plus one is two, that's it.

Abusing Palestinians, destroying their property, looting, shooting against the

orders, or west orders and hurting innocent people.

It's something that you can't avoid when you're there.

Because when your mission is to blindfold and uncap some Palestinians on

side, and you see thousands of these around you every day, every day you know

couple, dozens of them, you can't really try to see them.

As human beings, you can't really even have the thoughts, what they think now,

what they feel now, what's going on.

This kid is sitting here 14 hours, blinded, handcuffed. What's going on

him? He's not a kid anymore.

And it becomes more and more difficult because the relationship between the

and the settlers doesn't only stay on this level in the field of, you know,

trusting settlers more because settlers are on our side.

The real story is the political power that the settlers have. It's the power

influence the commanders, the brigade officers.

You know, he's the sheriff of Hebron, right? He controls everything.

He sneezes, all Hebron feels it.

And every brigade commander of Hebron knows that he will confront the settlers

and finish his army career.

That's a soldier truck, right? That's not good, is it?

When I came here in 2001, this building was still full. This building, so like

around three, four Palestinian families used to still live here.

They were the only one who were allowed to walk in this road and through the

gate.

Today you can see this building is totally empty. This building has like

or four family left inside.

This building is a very actual story, this building.

You can see how it's blocked now.

The settlers invaded here in the beginning of February.

And according to Israeli law, if someone invades, to a property that doesn't

earn it, if you don't take him out in the first 30 days, the only way to take

him out is through a very long legal procedure.

And during all the history of this place, every time when they invaded,

were never taken out in the first 30 days.

This time, it was the first incident in all the history of the settlement there

in Hebron that law was enforced really in time.

On the one hand, you have massive investments to set up communities there.

mean, what look like permanent towns and villages of Jews living in the occupied

territories, but the West Bank has not been annexed. Military law continues to

apply. So it's quite ambivalent in that sense. What is the future of those

territories? I mean, in some cases, Israel maybe is operating contrary to

long -term interests.

that areas that now the government is talking about pulling out of. I mean, we

have invested a lot of money there. It will now take a lot of money to uproot

those people.

We are

faithful

to God's word.

to the Bible and to the truth, not to this politician or to others.

You know, in the Israeli history, in the Jewish history, in the Bible, there

were many kings.

Many of them were evildoers.

Many of them were sinners.

And the Bible doesn't say a good word about them. And the prophet said, you

know, a liar.

He said to the king, Ahab, you are a murderer.

So to be a good Jew is to be faithful to justice and to truth.

not to a political regime.

It can be a king, it can be a prime minister, never mind.

And this is what I would like to see, all the moral people in the world that

don't obey to a criminal and corrupted regime.

I'm not talking to you. Are you pulling the people

out?

I'm talking to people.

Listen, I'll talk to you next week. I'll have coffee in Jerusalem.

You're crazy!

My fear today, my problem that I have today isn't with Hebron. My problem

is with the continued existence of the Jewish people here in the state of

Israel. Because we're committing suicide. We're virtually committing

And this is what we have to stop.

Could it happen? Could an Israeli government decide to pick us up and

out of our homes in Hebron? Yeah, it could.

And it could happen anywhere today.

However, if that happens, I think that we're dealing with a potential threat to

the state of Israel.

And it has to be stopped.

Without returning the whole West Bank, there will not be a just peace.

There will not be a lasting peace. There will not be peace.

And, you know, time is running out, and with 250 ,000 settlers in the West Bank,

it's becoming almost too late, maybe too late already, because it will not be

very easy to evacuate them. But without this...

nothing will move, and we will go just from one wall to the other.

From

the

international law perspective, all settlements are illegal.

The Israeli citizens should not be living in Hebron. It is occupied

You cannot have the occupier's people living in that territory.

But when you compound that with the reality of Hebron, I mean, you have a

hundred settlers, tens of thousands of Palestinians, and the Palestinians are

paying a very severe price in restrictions on movement, in being

violence, in all of this harassment and suffering.

as a result of a very small settler population.

So if we are calling for all the settlements to be dismantled, it's clear

Hebron has to be first as far as we are concerned.

It's their policy. They want to push us to leave.

They attack us.

They want to make us suffering in our life.

Also, destroy our economic situation.

When I have a tree, when I have a life, I will protect it. I'll try to live in

it. But when I lose everything, they think that I will leave.

But one day I told them that if I see my kids, my family dead

body, I will never leave this house.

Because my father, he was dead body and not leave this house.

And I am the same.

Look,

look, man.

You are welcome.

Come to my house. This is our land here.

This is my land.

No, this is my land here.

There's no real debate about this in Israel.

The ordinary Israeli has no idea what's happening there. He does not know. He

does not want to know.

We see here something which we have known in the darkest day of our history,

namely that after it was finished, everybody said, I didn't

know.

No one told me. I did not know. I did not know. I did not know. Of course they

did not know because they did not want to know.

My

main

complaint

My main scream, my main anger is toward the government who enables all this.

Because you see crazy extremists, fundamentalists, you have in every

The problem is how much power do they have and how much freedom do they have

implement their crazy ideas, their violent ideas, their vicious ideas.

During all the human being history, a lot of disasters human beings did.

Much worse things than the occupation.

Even in Hebron.

But still very few people did it.

A bit more people benefited from it.

But a majority of human beings in the world were silent with it.

And this is the problem.

People must understand that in this situation you have only two camps.

Either you're for it or against it.

Being silent is being for it.

Not everyone has to, you know, to live a life of resistance.

But everyone is obligated to stop being silent.