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Tighten up, everybody! Sit.

Smile.

all: Whoo!

I don't want to fight with you. when I scream out,

it's like pure anger, and I'm sorry.

Are you crying?

No. I get moved by what people say.

Can I try the little shot of that 818 tequila?

It's my friend Kendall Jenner's tequila.

I'm still really upset after what happened in Aspen.

She's saying things like,

"I'm gonna take down NBC. Bravo.

I will----ing ruin you all," and she said,

"I will destroy Kyle and her family,

if it's the last thing I ever do."

Are you serious?

Everybody's very quick to condemn my behavior,

but if we're gonna talk about Erika's behavior,

are we gonna talk about everybody in this group?

[quiet music]

♪

Mommy has to make a quick call.

I just want to call Auntie Kyle, 'cause she's filming.

The thing is, she's filming a very scary movie,

so it's not something you're gonna be able to see.

I know.

Give me ten minutes, and then come back.

- Hmm. - Let me make a quick call.

- Five minutes. - Five minutes.

But then I can't see Kyle!

Ten. Ten.

I love you, love bug.

Hi!

Hi, honey. How are you?

Oh, my goodness.

She's in character.

How are you feeling?

I feel good.

I've just been--we're just having coffee right now.

Yeah, listen, we were

at Crystal's last night for her birthday.

It was fun, it was good,

and then the evening took a little bit of a turn.

Rinna left early, and no one really understood why.

And then Erika was just like, "I think Rinna left

"because, you know, she's got certain feelings

about the way Kathy behaved the last night."

You know...

It just felt like she was seeing red,

and sometimes the easiest person to pick on

is your family, right?

- No kidding. - I think this is something

you guys can get over,

and I think that you guys have been through a lot.

A lot worse even.

On the final day in Aspen,

before we went to the airport,

Lisa had told me that the majority

of the things that Kathy was saying at my house

was about me.

And then she didn't want to say exactly

what the things were,

because she didn't want to hurt me.

I don't want to get to a place

where I can't repair with her again...

so it's maybe best, I don't know.

Come back to L.A., and you, you know,

have the conversations then.

Okay.

Do you like my nose ring?

It suits you.

Please don't come back with another broken nose, Kyle.

We're not doing another nose job.

No. We're done with those.

[phone rings]

All right.

[ringing]

Well, hello.

You are now muted. Plus shift command to unmute.

- [no audio] - I know.

I'm about to unmute myself.

Can you hear me now?

Now I can.

Hi!

You look pretty. I look crazy. - Hello.

It's so good to see you.

I've gone to therapy on and off for the last three years,

but since I've moved out and filed for divorce,

I've definitely made this a regular thing.

Tell me what's going on.

I reached out because I want the ability to move on.

It's almost like last year was easier,

because every day it was like I could see the finish line.

Now I'm settling into this,

and it's really difficult to accept, in a way.

You have to keep in mind

that you have a grieving process.

That you have had the loss of a marriage,

also the loss of your husband, as you thought him to be.

That your marriage had plenty of problems,

before any of this happened,

but that he was not who you thought that he was.

As difficult as he was,

and as probably as a lot of his behavior was

in the marriage,

this is just a whole other level.

And you have to grieve the loss of the husband

that you had hoped and thought that he was and would be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've never met anybody like Tom Girardi.

I miss the Tom that was loving,

that was a good time, that had a beautiful smile,

big blue eyes...

that made everybody feel good.

He was magic.

You took the hint.

[laughing]

That's amazing. - Is that great?

It's wonderful.

I'm really proud of you.

Thank you... [sniffling]

for saying that.

But as sweet as he could be, he could flip on you,

and it was really ugly.

You have great looks.

- Great intellect. - Excuse me, Erika.

This is me talking, not you.

I'm running the operation, baby.

- No sh--. - Pardon me, Erika.

That mother----er was mean.

In one fell swoop, you lost your marriage.

You lost your financial security.

You lost friends.

You have to figure out

what you need to do with your feelings

about all of this and about people

who were harmed by someone who you loved for many years.

I'm gonna say something here that's not popular.

I was harmed too. - I know.

I think Tom probably thought the rules

did not apply to him, because it always worked out.

I want to believe that

it got away from him

and not that he orchestrated it this way.

I really risk becoming hateful,

becoming mean,

becoming something that I don't want to be.

- Yeah. - And unfortunately,

I'm easily provoked, at this point.

Look, Erika, you grew up in a family

where there was no room for you to have feelings,

and it reinforces some of your own negative thoughts

and beliefs about yourself.

Sure. And it also reinforces

the public's negative thoughts and beliefs.

Stop running from it.

I'm afraid.

I don't blame you. And that's okay.

You're only human.

I'm just so afraid.

I think you need to

operate under the assumption

that people are going to come at you,

and I think you've gotta change your mindset

to acceptance. - How long does this last?

[laughing]

Should I just--

It lasts the shortest when you resist it the least,

and it lasts the longest when you don't face it.

[BLEEP].

Coming up...

If someone hurts me,

I have to keep them at arm's length

to protect myself. - Mm-hmm.

Blood included.

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♪

Did you meet Vanessa?

Party planner. - How are you?

She helped us pull this whole thing together.

- Thank you, Vanessa. - You're welcome.

♪

Hi! How are you?

- How are you? - Good.

- You ready? - Yeah. I'm ready.

Okay. Oh, my gosh.

We've heard a lot of things going on.

How are you feeling? - [laughs]

A lot of articles have surfaced

about Kathy's behavior at the nightclub.

I do not know how they got this level of detail.

Everything's not hunky-dory.

Ooh.

Okay, okay. - So there you go.

I see what you did there.

I see what she did there.

This is a juicy story.

Everybody would love to have the story that Kathy Hilton

had a meltdown in Aspen at a nightclub,

cussing out the managers and screaming in Kyle's face

and acting like an asshole at the coat check.

People saw it.

Well, thank you so much. It was really a pleasure.

Thank you. You as well.

Yay!

Pretty Mess Hair! - Hey, sweetie pie.

Who did your hair? It looks like you're already ready.

I'm ready, honey.

Your hair guru's already here.

I've been to a million product receptions,

but I wanted to make this pop-up shop sort of casual.

Pass by and get some hair.

Instead of having a party and giving the girls,

my friends, hair, why don't we invite

the ladies and their stylist, and everyone's happy?

I love that idea.

I was like, "Scott, you got work to do."

Feel like this is Lisa right here.

- Mm-hmm. - Hey!

- Hi, Sheree! - How are you?

Good to see you.

There she is. [giggles]

Oh, she rises above... - ...olive branch.

You rose above my petty ass.

- I did. - And I appreciate it.

I am gonna invite you to my hair party,

and if you don't say no... - I'm not coming.

I won't have any respect for you.

You didn't come to my party, so...

- Right. - I'm not coming to yours.

So I respect that. Thank you.

I'm glad you're here, and I really appreciate it.

I want Erika to know that I want her to be successful.

I want her to beat all of this.

I really like you.

I like you too.

We just need to work it out.

I want her to show the world that you

can do right, get yourself together, and rebuild.

At the end of the day, we've got some roots.

Of course. That's why it hurts.

If I didn't care, it wouldn't hurt.

So by showing up, hopefully I'm telling her...

"Do it."

Did you see anything you liked?

Yeah. I picked your color for your hair.

Okay. We'll hook it up.

I mean, look, I just look at y'all.

When y'all do makeup, I do makeup.

You do hair, I do hair. - Right.

I don't know anything about all this.

- Hi! - Come on in.

Are you as hot as I am?

- Sheree! - Hi, guys!

Diana's here!

All right, let's go play with some hair.

Okay. I want to see it all.

This is most of my colors.

I love, like, anime.

I love anything that-- - Do you?

- Look. Look at you. - Oh, my God.

- You kind of look anime. - Oh, my God.

I look like Blackpink.

This is the best party ever. [giggling]

Has everybody chosen your color?

Have you chosen your hair?

There's my girl! I was like, "Where's my girl?"

Look it. We're getting touched up!

You guys are so cute! - We're getting touched up!

♪

Wait. Are you wearing her extensions?

I'm not. I'm wearing a wig.

Still hot.

It's so funny.

When Harry's around, we do regular Rinna.

He wants me in a t-shirt, jeans,

no makeup, regular hair.

- Rob likes the glam. - Yeah he does.

Rob likes the glam?

- You know what, because he's-- - 'Cause I'm so basic

all the time. What does PK like?

- PK likes the drama. - Put on heels.

And put on, you know, and do your hair and makeup.

- Oh! Really? - Yes.

PK likes when I dress up so much

that he's even said he'd love to see me doing

the dishes in high heels.

Well, I would give anything to see PK doing a dish,

once in his life, ever.

Success?

I don't know.

This is like what we would consider a pop-up shop...

- Yeah. - But we're completely and

totally in business online.

[phone chiming]

Hello?

- Hello, darling. - Oh, my God!

Hi! - How are you?

How are you?

Looking good.

And I'm calling you to say thank you so much

for coming on board at the Oscars again.

I used to live in London,

across from a very famous china store,

and we both are collector of fine china.

Elton and his husband David-- they were buying china,

and I just walked in in a fur coat and flip flops

and looking all crazy.

And they're like, "Who is that?"

And it was love at first sight.

You are the best. I'm so thankful.

The best. - Aw. I love you so much.

We'll celebrate you

on Oscar night, okay? - Muah!

Love you! - Muah! Okay, darling.

- Bye. Love you. - Bye.

I have many, many stories with Elton and David,

but I'm not sure I can share them.

- That's sweet. - So sweet.

Rinna, this is so up my street here.

- Tom Ford. - Really?

- Tom Ford denim. - This is Tom--

Shut the front door! - I don't think you can get it.

I think it's like one-of-a-kind.

Yeah.

How you doing, my angel girl?

I'm okay.

I haven't spoken to you in a few days.

I know, since Crystal's--

Crystal came down, and she said,

"I don't know. She left."

I said, "What do you mean she left?

She wouldn't leave without saying goodbye."

It's not something I normally do.

You know that. I never, ever just--

but in that moment, I just said, "I gotta go."

I completely understand.

I've always really cared about Kathy.

- I know. - And so I just don't

ing know what to do with it.

Kathy's called me, and I've spoken to her.

Kathy remembers everything,

and she is not proud of her behavior, at all.

This is far more about Kathy and Kyle

than it is about anything else.

- I know. - Period.

She was very much like, "My behavior's wrong."

She was apologetic.

I said, "Listen, Kathy..." - Well, she should probably

come say that to me. - That's what I told her.

I said, "I don't know what happened

with you and Rinna in the van." - She tried to silence me.

Oy.

She sent me a text.

"Please...

"please do not say

anything we discussed"...

No bueno," but "bueno" is spelled wrong.

It was a veiled threat, and you know,

I don't do well with that... - No, you don't.

Kind of thing, Dorit.

"Please, it goes further

"than you would want to know.

Silence is golden. I am staying silent."

With hearts.

And I care about Kathy, and I told her

the worst thing you could do is not face anyone...

- Right. - And try to run from it,

because it makes it so much worse.

I said, "Then you go on Instagram Live."

And I just read something

that I was screaming and throwing things.

That is not me,

and I really don't like people saying something like that.

She goes on Instagram Live, Dorit, and lies.

- I know, and I said-- - They're lies!

- They're not even true. - She fully understood.

Does she know that she lied?

She 1,000% took ownership.

Like, again, I'm saying this-- - Lie!

Lies. - Let me tell you,

if she walks in-- - I was in the house with her.

She said I was in the house alone.

I was kind of left in the house by myself, at one point.

Rinna, the only person that can answer for it--

the only person... - I know. Is her.

- Is Kathy. - Is Kathy.

Coming up...

If you could add, in your voice,

a little... compassion...

Yeah. I would like some compassion too.

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♪

Let's go sit down and, like--come on.

Enough of this. Enough.

Where are we gonna go with it?

- What's going on over there? - Hi, ladies. Well...

I think Dorit-- let's have Dorit tell you.

Do we need some drink refills?

Can I get a margarita, skinny, no salt?

It's really nice.

That's what I'm gonna do.

Okay. Last time I saw Lisa

was at your beautiful birthday party.

Beautiful. So fun.

Which was really lovely, and Lisa left.

I'm so sorry that I left early.

I need to go home. - Okay.

I'm still really upset after what happened in Aspen.

I think Lisa, in that moment,

she was feeling a lot of things after Aspen.

The last night we were there Kathy was--

she was not herself that night.

She wanted to play a song at the DJ booth.

It was "Billy Jean."

- And the DJ refused? - Yeah.

Off with his head. How do you

not play "Billy Jean"? - No, no, no.

I would not play "Billy Jean" right now.

"Billy Jean"?

I love "Billy Jean."

Am I surprised some of these women

don't know that requesting Michael Jackson

is problematic these days?

No, but what am I?

Just a millennial?

Someone told her to go back to L.A.

She told me it was the manager that said,

"Go back to L.A.," not the DJ.

I was trying to tell her. I said,

"Kathy, this is not personal. This is the way they are."

Diana bought him off for 200 bucks, so it really wasn't--

- I went around-- - It was a low price.

She should know that game better than me.

She was born into that game.

I only learn it later. [laughs]

Much later, after many--

Okay. She married the game, but either way--

People at clubs don't really care who you are,

where you come from.

They're there to make money.

The way the game works is you tip,

and you tip your way to the best table, to your drinks,

so if I know the game, Kathy should know the game.

We could not get a drink for so long.

Diana went.

She gave the guy $200 and said,

"Can you please get us drinks?"

It's a game.

But even for her, I'm sure people don't disrespect her

like that, 'cause I'll tell you, like,

when I came to the hat shop,

Kathy was outside on the phone,

and she was absolutely agitated.

I am----ing pissed off.

- Wow. - That was that day.

So it started at the hat shop?

I don't know.

She was shaking. - No!

- She was shaking, at the club. - Are you kidding?

No. She was shaking.

Like, she was so agitated. - No!

Okay, so yeah, so--

Oh, wow.

Sheree telling me that she saw Kathy outside really mad--

it gives me an understanding

that it started earlier in the day,

and it makes me believe that my ordering

the Kardashian-Jenner tequila

is what set her off.

Can I try the little shot of that 818 tequila?

I want to see what that tastes like.

I just want to try it, 'cause it's my friend

Kendall Jenner's tequila.

Because Kathy is so----ing jealous of the Kardashians.

She was not attacking me, in any way.

It was about how she really feels about certain things

and people, and blood, in this group.

Was there anything other than Kyle?

Yes. I'm not gonna--

I'm not going any further, you guys.

I can't go any further.

Kathy spoke about all of these women.

Some she lumped together.

Crystal. Sutton.

Pieces of sh--, - ing should be fired.

Like, why are they even here?

Well, she said, "I never said anything bad

about you, Dorit." Is that true?

What she said about Dorit

is that she was a stupid, useless idiot.

So she literally said everybody's name?

It's a barrage of, "I----ing can't believe

"that I have to be around you----ing peons.

"I don't like them. Why do I have to be with them?

"They need to go away. They're idiots.

"I have to do everything around here.

"This is my show, by the way.

"I have big deals over at NBC.

Everyone is protecting me, and I will----ing ruin Kyle."

Let me put it this way.

Garcelle and I came out better than anybody

in this situation.

Kathy said, "Look, I might have lost my temper.

I was really upset at my sister."

No, she--Kath--

No.

No.

Kathy never said any of that.

Right now?

I believe Kathy.

I really, really thought that Kathy was gonna be here.

But why isn't she here?

Maybe she's just busy. I mean, seriously.

- Yeah. - Like, you know, look.

Garcelle texted me and said, "I have a job."

Thank you, Robert.

Hello. - Thank you.

Thank you. I had help.

- Good morning. - Hi, guys.

Right. Did Kathy text you?

- No. - Okay.

Lisa, last I left it with her, she was coming here.

Have you spoken to her?

I spoke to her yesterday, and she said

she was coming, and that--

- So where is she? - You know, I said,

"Are you apologizing?" And she said, "For sure."

I will tell you one thing.

I have sent her blessings and prayers through my heart,

even though this has been so difficult,

as I've, like, meditated--

- You are so evolved. - I am.

I try to be, and it's hard, you guys.

- Of course it is. - But I have really tried

to send her blessing and prayers,

because I think she really needs it.

I don't know. Does Lisa pray?

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♪

Coming up...

Do you like my cowboy boots?

Well, those aren't cowboy boots.

Those are just boots.

You would not get on a horse with those.

Those look more like pilgrims. - Pilgrims?

♪

[knocker clacks]

Is that the door? Sh--.

Oh, I see you have my shirt on.

- Howdy, ma'am. - Howdy, ma'am. Come in.

- The flowers are for you. - Thank you.

I just came in from the Ponderosa,

all the way from Cartwright City...

- How are you? - To apologize.

Okay.

This is the first time that I'm seeing Kathy

since Aspen.

We exchanged a couple of texts while I was away,

but we have not had a real conversation

about exactly what happened.

Do you like my cowboy boots?

Well, those aren't cowboy boots.

Those are just boots.

You would not get on a horse with those.

Those look more like pilgrims. - Pilgrims?

Do you like ice in your water?

It's cold already. Would you like ice?

No. Just like that is perfect.

I thought this was Alexia's t-shirt,

and I thought it matches, so I'm gonna wear it,

because I want to make peace.

It sounds so easy on paper.

Just sit down and talk about it.

But as history goes with us,

that hasn't really worked.

I have been approached to create our own company.

I just get worried, because it's like here it is.

It's my sister and my brother-in-law.

It's my family, and I don't want them to be upset.

I'm not going to London anymore.

I'm no longer going to the wedding.

Since "American Woman," It's not like it was before.

We did everything together.

Talked every single day, ten times a day.

It's not like that.

How is your relationship with Kathy right now?

Um, not great.

Are you speaking?

Not right now.

- Wow. - Yeah.

Kathy, what's your reaction when you see

some of that old footage of Kyle talking about

being estranged from you?

We wasted a lot of time.

I'm just so happy we're together.

[both crying]

I'm so happy we're together.

When these things have happened, in the past,

it affects me tremendously.

Nothing can get my anxiety going worse

than having that conflict with my family

and having to sort of keep it to myself.

Those are cute bracelets. - Thank you.

You really like them? - Yeah. I really do.

- Thank you. Do you want them? - No.

Take 'em, 'cause I have more.

No. I don't want to take them from you.

- I have... a bunch. - Okay, fine.

Take 'em all, 'cause they're really cute.

- I'll take two. - No, take the whole thing,

'cause I'm getting hot with them anyway.

The bracelets are making you hot?

Yeah.

Hmm? So what's been happening while I've been away?

You know, I don't know a lot,

but, you know, but I know some stuff, and--

Well, I just--what I want to say is I'm here to apologize

to you, because...

Thank you.

I started ranting and venting my feelings...

and I didn't think that they would...

get back to you.

I dress up, but I'm not dressed up, up there.

You know what I'm saying?

Those are your shoes that you--

you went to the airport like that?

- Yes. - What if people recognize you?

Are these boots okay, or are these beyond?

It's the whole outfit that's beyond.

And a little bit of it. I get it, it's funny, whatever.

But now I'm starting to feel a little insecure.

I don't--but why am I being put in this position, like I...

- No, but I'm just saying-- - Have to apologize right now?

Do you know how often you do that to me?

No one takes a joke too far more than you.

I'm gonna hide the purse quickly.

Where's my purse?

Kathy!

Kathy is a practical joker, at everyone else's expense,

so she's not really in the position to say,

oh, she doesn't like the jokes towards her.

And I actually don't believe

that she was offended by those, at all.

She wasn't. I think that's her excuse.

You know, that night you were in a mood.

You were seeing red.

You were screaming at me, in front of everybody.

It's not the first time you've done it.

It's just the first time you've done that

with other people watching,

and it really hurt me and embarrassed me.

Why-- - I'm very sorry.

But I'm mostly sorry for--

What you said back at the house?

Yeah.

And I mean...

Why did you say that stuff?

Um...

over-tired.

Angry. Stupid.

Glass of wine. Two glasses of wine.

Altitude.

I'm so sorry.

Well, I appreciate that.

You know, I...

I don't feel...

like I've had a lot of support from my sisters

for--I don't even know--

very, very long time.

And...

when I hear you talk like that and the things you said,

I feel like you hate me or something.

It makes me feel so bad.

But how could you say those things?

- Kyle-- - How could you

say those things? - Kyle.

I mean, we never get a chance to ever do anything like today.

First of all, I am working my ass off.

I get that, but you do have to make

a little time for family.

Well, I make time for my family.

I make time for my husband and my children.

I'm trying to balance everything.

- I get that. - If someone hurts me,

I have to keep them at arm's length

to protect myself. - Mm-hmm.

Blood included.

[edgy music]

If we could have direct-direct communication,

that would be great.

It is hard to get you on the phone.

It is impossible. I feel... - Well--

Like a pest.

Well, you often call me to...

rant.

Sometimes Kathy's call will be preceded by a text.

"Hi. Important. Calling you,"

and immediately, my whole body goes numb.

What the [BLEEP] is it?

You don't ever say, "How are you?

"What's going on with you, honey?

How was this, how did--" A lot of times it's just--

- No it's not, Kyle. - It is, Kathy, it is.

And it's not like, you know, "How's the movie going?

How's the shoot going? What's going on?"

I don't get those questions.

I don't want to hear about

how you're pissed off about this or that,

so sometimes I do avoid her call.

I do.

I'm very proud of you. You're a great wife.

- But you never say that. - You're a great mother.

Kyle.

Well, it would be nice to hear you say that.

You're a great wife. You're a great mother.

You're talented. You're thoughtful.

You do it all, and I am very proud of you.

Mom would be very proud of you.

[quiet music]

Okay? Come here.

Come here!

Come here.

I am so proud of you.

I am so proud of you.

Do you hear me?

My mom and my dad were always my biggest cheerleaders,

and when you lose that...

You kind of feel like no one's ever gonna love me like that.

And no one's ever going to support me

or be proud of me like that.

I love you so much.

I think hearing Kathy say that...

You know, she is my big sister,

because I don't have my parents, you know.

Hearing her say that obviously means a lot to me,

but it completely contradicts what she said in Aspen.

So...

you know, what do you believe?

What about the other women that were there?

What--have you talked to them about what...

Yeah. I've talked to everybody.

Everybody.

I mean I have not talked to Erika, 'cause

I never spoke to her, and I tried Lisa,

but I did not reach her.

Rinna is coming here in a little while, so...

- Oh, good. Good. - If you want to

talk to her in person... - Yeah. I would love to.

You can hang around.

I mean, I just don't want to see a situation

where you guys can't find some sort of peace.

- Right. - Because...

You kidding me?

Coming up...

I think I was a little frustrated.

I think it was a lot to process, okay?

- Is that trying to shut me up? - A lot of--no.

But I feel you can be very unkind too.

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♪

This is very fancy.

I can't.

I'm just dying.

I mean, not to make a mockery of Popeye's.

It's delicious.

Well, I mean it's coming in from cardboard

and going onto silver, and... - As it should be.

Being served with Dom, so.

I finally ask Erika to come over to my house, one-on-one.

There are some things that I need to say to her.

Hey, do you want to do, like, a lunch or something?

- I can't. - I only come from love.

- Okay. I would love to. - All right?

It's like the Hatfields and McCoys.

Sometimes you get sick of fighting,

and you just want to put your pistol down.

I love macaroni and cheese. I'm saving this for myself.

Mm-hmm. How's that?

It's pretty good.

Whew! Lord, it is hot as hell.

There she is! You look cute.

Thank you. Thank you for having me over.

Come on in.

I have Popeye's. - Get out!

Oh, my God. You have ice tea and Popeye's on china.

- Come sit down. - Thank you.

We have Popeye's and Dom Perignon or ice tea.

It's Popeye's.

It's Dom Perignon. It's a special occasion.

It's a Sutton creation.

I'm driving, so iced tea. - Oh, you're driving.

We're doing sweet tea.

- Is that what you made today? - I didn't make it.

But you bought it?

I bought it, and I love sweet tea.

So do I. Cheers.

Cheers.

Are we allowed to say cheers to sweet tea?

I don't know.

It's good stuff.

Yeah.

Sutton and I started out friendly and then flipped.

I got chips, candy, champagne.

- That's the divorce kit. - Thank you.

It'll get you through the next day.

You're okay, and it's okay.

- Breathe, breathe, breathe. - It's all right.

You be quiet, all right, Miss Small Town,

I'm so Worried About My Mother----ing reputation.

You shut up.

If I'm gonna be threatened, I am not--

- Bye. - Yeah. Bye is right.

I'm not gonna be threatened.

Where is my apology?

- You're not getting one. - Why not?

- Because I don't like you. - Oh, good!

This is a mutual thing.

I'm tired.

I'm tired, you know, and certain things

you have to let go of.

What's important is, as a group, as women,

we have to support each other. - Mm-hmm.

I will say this.

The only thing that I want to ask of you is the lashing out.

I don't want you to do that to people anymore.

- Hmm. - That--you know?

I agree with you.

I started out being soft and trying to explain.

- Mm-hmm. - And I felt like

I wasn't heard.

You know, that's when I start to get angry and push back.

Yeah.

And then we're off to the races.

I just think, in Aspen, I saw it all over again,

and I think there's a word that is your trigger word.

It is. Do you know why?

Do you know what that trigger word is?

Yes I do. It starts with a V.

I have a very hard time with that.

Yeah.

Because it implies that I've done something.

What I would like, maybe, just if you could

add in your voice a little compassion

or, you know, like, just in the way you say it.

Yeah.

I would like some compassion too.

And look at me here. I'm giving it.

I know. I would like some compassion,

too, as crazy as it sounds.

Well, I appreciate the ability for us

to move forward from last year's problems.

Yeah.

Actually, we do have some fun together.

Oh, this is good.

We like the same food.

I like it. I don't care.

Isn't that good?

You did a beautiful job with it.

Want some more tea, Ma'am? - Oh, God, I hope not.

Yes, thank you. - Thank you.

- Thank you, Ma'am. - And you're welcome, Ma'am.

There's something about the two of us.

We like each other, in this very dysfunctional way.

Thank you for some lovely Popeye's.

You're welcome.

Some good, old Southern hospitality.

I thought I'd bring some South to you.

Thank you.

I gotta remind you of your roots so that you play nice.

Oh, God.

So it's nice not being in a fight.

I think we're gonna do good, Erika.

We're gonna be fine. Oh, I love your Murano.

Did you get that in Venice?

- Hi. - Hi.

How are you? - Hi.

Nice to see you. - Nice to see you.

- Howdy, Ma'am. - Hi, Ma'am.

I come here all the way from Cathedral City,

from the Ponderosa, to apologize to you.

I don't know what that means, but here's Loki.

Come on. Hi, gorgeous.

Kathy's wearing the same t-shirt

she wore in Aspen when she had her----ing psychotic break.

It's the same shirt.

So what have you girls been talking about?

Well, I apologized to Kyle and that I said

some very unkind things,

and I feel bad that I unleashed on you.

I vented, and I wasn't taking into consideration

that you're also in a real sensitive spot right now,

losing your mom.

I said things that I shouldn't have said...

[sighs]

And I am so sorry.

You know, I was really shook.

I'd never seen anything like that.

And you never see me like that.

And I've certainly never seen you like that.

No.

I have to really take a look at what happened.

Like, what triggered you, and what

made you go to that place?

Do you have any idea?

I mean, I don't really have a temper.

What would you call this?

Losing my temper and just being--

- Cruel. - Yeah.

Cruel.

I feel, if we're gonna really talk about this,

you're gonna have to take responsibility

for some of the things that you've said.

You said some things about everybody.

Not just Kyle.

Like, big----ing things that, you know,

I don't want to say that you need help, Kathy,

but I think you need some help.

I think I was a little frustrated.

I think it was just a lot of heavy stuff,

in three days, jam-packed.

- Mm-hmm. - A lot to process.

- Mm-hmm. - Okay?

Is that trying to shut me up?

A lot of--no, but I feel you can be very unkind too.

I will say that.

Oh, we're gonna go there.

♪

You said some things about everybody, not just Kyle.

But I feel you can be very unkind too.

I will say that. - Oh, we're gonna go there.

But so you don't want to hear that?

It's not about me right now. This is about you.

Basically, we're in the same position

that we were eight years ago.

You came after me all last year.

You know what? The truth is the truth.

If you can sit here and use excuses

about losing your parents...

I'm not using it as an excuse!

You guys, can you please, honestly--

It's just another sister.

I think maybe I'm just sensitive about some things.

A friend of mine is dying.

Terminal cancer. - I'm so sorry.

- And I haven't even told you. - I'm very sorry.

And it's very upsetting to me.

So I'm sorry.

And I don't behave this way,

and people that have known me for 30 years--

I don't have problems with people.

Why are you looking at me like that?

Because you're looking at me like,

"Oh, I have some big problem."

Yeah, I am-- - I'm not looking at you.

- In pain right now. - I see that.

I understand pain.

And you can be--have a little compassion.

I'm sorry, Kathy.

You're not gonna get away with it with me.

You're not gonna get away with it.

You can have your tears.

You can do what you're gonna do, but you did what you did.

Yes, I did.

And you're not going to just gaslight

and manipulate me right now.

If you want to apologize to me, let's talk

about what you really did, and let's talk about

some of the names you called people.

And we'll go there, if you want to.

Do you remember us, at the house?

Yes I do.

Do you remember that I locked myself in the bedroom?

- No I did not. - I did.

Do you know why I locked myself in the bedroom?

Why?

'Cause you were having a psychotic break of some kind.

Like, it was really out of control.

I can't imagine that anybody could scare Lisa Rinna.

Ha.

I am constantly reminded of the situation

with Lisa with my sister Kim.

She got physical.

- Never go near my husband! - Everybody will know--

Everybody will know.

Do you----ing understand that?

Everybody will know!

Don't ever go after my----ing husband!

You are----ing angry,

and at this beautiful sister of yours.

Look, I didn't handle myself well.

I'm not proud of it, okay?

Yes.

And I said things I don't mean.

That's all I can say.

For me, you know, Kathy's my sister.

You guys honestly are like my sisters too,

and they've been there for me, and you know,

I--the thought of you guys having this issue,

and then, you know-- - No, we don't want to

have an issue. Lisa, I apologize to you.

I appreciate our conversation.

Yeah, but I just want to know where that hatred comes from.

You've gotta figure that out.

You've gotta figure out why you have a black heart.

What is it?

I'm not gonna have any more discussion with you.

Is that it? No more?

I had a feeling this might go this way.

Please, you both.

Please, please. I'm begging you.

- Okay. - Yeah.

- I'll walk you out. - I am so done.

I can see that Kathy is trying to keep her cool,

because she knows she has to apologize,

but I feel like Rinna's pushing it.

- Bye. - Drive carefully.

Oh, my God. Those are gorgeous.

Look how pretty.

Oh, I love the way she did those, Kyle.

So pretty.

Oh, my God.

Well, that was good, and then kinda wasn't.

I'm looking for my life to be less complicated.

I know, but work needs to be done between you two.

Something needs to happen.

You can't just have this moment and then be like, "Okay, fine.

Everything's good," because I don't think

everything's good at the core.

She needs to do some serious soul searching or talking

to somebody, because I'm not sure it will get any better,

unless she does.

Next time, on the season finale...

Get your----ing hand off that bag, you piece of sh--!

Put your gloves on! Put your gloves on!

Get your----ing hand off that bag!

I had locked myself in the bedroom.

Why?

I was shook, because of the behavior that was going on.

I'm feeling really uncomfortable.

- Okay. All right. - I just feel weird,

'cause my sister actually apologized.

I have to move on.

You don't think it's weird that, at every event,

every detail is being leaked to the press?

Yes, I do think it's weird.

Did either one of you leak to the press

any of this information about Kathy?

No. I don't know how to do that.

Well, I think the question is what's

the motive talking about it? What's the point?

It's starting to feel like a crusade.

It's not like everyone around here is an angel.

You're only punishing me, just so you know.

- Your sister's punishing you. - Right!

Your sister's punishing you. That's right.