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Original subtitles

Tonight, the reunion concludes.

Erika, how's your sex life?

- Good. - Great.

- Had some last night. - Ooh!

It's a relief that somebody can stay hard all the time.

[all exclaim] - Okay!

You didn't wear your hotel slippers today.

I have them in the dressing room.

- You do? - Mm-hmm.

So, you schlonked through an airport wearing slippers?

all: Schlonked?

Out of everybody in the party,

why would you say that to him?

Jax was not singled out.

♪

I was shocked when she said that.

Had I done that to you, it would have been

a totally different story, and you know it.

When you heard Lisa order Kendall Jenner tequila,

did that piss you off?

I was angry that Kyle--

What was I supposed to say to her?

You're not allowed to order a different tequila?

You are the biggest bully in Hollywood,

and everyone knows it.

The only one who it hurts here is me.

I'm the one who gets----ed.

♪

[sniffles]

[upbeat music]

♪

We are back with part three of

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion."

I'm Andy Cohen.

The singles ladies of Beverly Hills

have a diverse set of needs.

Some are looking for a good date,

and some are just looking for that good D.

[laughter] Barbara Cookstan said,

"Wearing a cat sweater and talking

about her neuropathy is honestly icon behavior."

My foot is itching because I have neuropathy.

Sutton, is Sanjit still in the picture?

Yes. We're friends.

- You're friends. - With benefits?

- No. - Oh.

Where'd you get the cat sweater?

[laughter]

- That is a cute sweater. - Not for a date!

I thought it was cute.

Erika, how's your sex life?

- Good. - Great.

- Had some last night. - Ooh!

- Good! That was your-- - Well, I was not gonna

come in here stressed out. - Good for you!

That was your pre-reunion prep?

- Yeah. - Excellent.

- Good for you! - Do you have some regular

friends with benefits?

Well, you have to have a roster. It's like a team.

People are out on the bench.

People can't play.

So you gotta move them in and out.

It's a relief that somebody can stay hard all the time.

[all exclaim] - Okay!

Really?

Okay. On that note, on the heels of the most

stressful year of her life, Erika

was finally feeling free.

But while some friends thought she was letting loose,

others worried she was losing control.

Watch.

Last couple of times I saw you, you were a little tipsy.

[silverware clatters] - Ah!

Oh, I wasn't tipsy, I was blacked out.

Oh, my God, I'm lit.

Erika is mud pie messy.

I actually love seeing Erika like this.

She's having fun.

She's, like, a different person.

- Right. - Wait.

Love you girls. Bye.

- What are you doing here? - Flowers.

Don't cuss--

Just because you're drunk, that's not an excuse.

She's not gonna talk to my son like that.

Let me take my shoes off.

Ah!

Oops. [laughter]

You need to figure out your...

- I did. - Medicine...

- I did. - And drink ratio.

But is that to make Erika look bad

or is that out of genuine concern?

Erika, I don't have to make you look bad.

You can do that on your own.

So, when you see the montage of falling down

and stuff like that, how does that land with you?

You know, it's almost like, "Who is that?"

looking back on it.

After everything that--you know,

the previous year, look, hey, I wanted to forget all of it.

I also was numbing pain and have

been very open about, you know, seeing a psychiatrist

and all of that.

Garcelle, you were obviously pretty vocal

about Erika's drinking.

When did you start to be concerned?

It wasn't until my party and the incident with Jax.

Because I didn't realize how bad the Jax thing was

until I watched the episode.

And I have a question: Why him?

Out of everybody in the party, why would you say that to him

and not a grownup and not PK,

and not Mo, and not anybody?

Jax was not singled out.

It could have been anybody.

It was me being drunk and stupid.

It wasn't anger.

It doesn't come from a bad place.

It comes from a irresponsible place.

And Dorit, you didn't even say anything to her.

- I did, actually. I did. - You said he's picking up

flowers for his momma. What's that?

I said, "Erika, he's just getting"--

Oh, sh--.

Kyle, you and Dorit laughed about it.

And it was unsettling to watch.

Did you miss when Erika said to Garcelle's son,

the 14-year-old, to go [BLEEP] off?

- I know. - I was there.

I mean, it's not funny, but it is funny.

I think it's great that she did that.

[laughs]

I, like Garcelle, never saw it in person.

So when I saw the episode, I was mortified.

My husband was mortified.

But I don't see what would be funny about it at all.

I don't either.

What would be funny about it at all?

That's my bad.

Had I done that to you, it would have been

a totally different story...

- Oh, no-- - And you know it.

No, no, no. I still--I felt terrible.

We both felt terrible.

Anyone who knows me knows that being a mom comes first.

I felt-- - I under that,

but it's my kid, as opposed to your kid.

- Terrible. - First of all,

I was taken aback.

Garcelle, I was shocked when she said that.

- I can understand that. - And I was disgusted.

- Mm-hmm. - I felt like

someone stabbed me in the stomach.

I swear to you. - It was stupid.

- I felt so sick. - So, did you have

an out-of-body experience?

- No! - Like, what happened?

I told Erika that night-- we went out for dinner.

I told her--I said, "Erika, like, what

the [BLEEP] are you doing?

It really was not okay."

Well, Erika was wrong.

I said I was wrong.

What was your reaction to Erika's apology to you?

Did you feel complete from that?

I don't know if I felt complete.

When someone's apologizing in this group,

they tend to get to it, and then they're like, "I'm sorry.

I own it, I," you know. - Right.

And you can't really-- you look like a crazy person

freaking out at them. - For still talking about it.

Right. - And so I accepted it.

I accepted it.

Erika, you were recently cleared

in what seemed like a pretty significant fraud lawsuit...

- Yeah. - That said that you knew

about what was happening.

Do you want me to pull out my notes?

I can read it to you.

"The court concluded that there is no evidence

"of any knowledge on Erika's part of any wrongdoing

"by Tom Girardi or Girardi Keese and no evidence

of Erika's participation in any wrongdoing."

That's significant.

What was your reaction to that?

She was the first person to text me and say,

"Congratulations on your win.

I'm very happy for you." - That's great.

- Sent it. - Right.

- Good. - And so I appreciate--

And I meant it.

I know you did, or you wouldn't have done it.

- No, I would not have. - And I appreciate that.

Renee from Facebook said, "In May of this year,

"Tom was disbarred and ordered by the California Supreme

"Court to pay almost 2.3 million plus 10% interest

"for funds stolen from some of his clients.

Can you still sit there and say there may be no victims?"

No, there's none of mine.

I have no--I do not share in that responsibility.

I think that really triggered some of the women here.

- There's dead people... - That what?

That money was stolen from.

I don't give a [BLEEP] about anybody else but me.

♪

It doesn't matter if it triggers them or not.

I'm in a very sticky legal fight that's very layered.

I'm going to do what I need to do,

and a judge just ruled in my favor.

But that was not the only case...

There are many. That's what I--

That Tom misappropriated funds.

- Hold on. - Allegedly.

That's right.

But when the women say that they

don't feel that you're expressing empathy,

you say what? - That's on them.

That's their opinion.

But it's the delivery.

When you say, "I don't give a [BLEEP]

about anybody but myself."

Okay, Dorit, so the plane is going down,

and they tell you to put on your oxygen mask first

before you can help anybody else.

I'm helping myself so that in the future,

I can help everyone else.

My battles are far from ever.

But even that, what you just said right now...

- Yeah. - Is a lot better than

what you said that night.

In the moment, when you have been absolutely cornered

for a very long time-- I would have loved

to have had that clarity.

I did not.

I have been disappointed in my behavior

all through the season.

You have?

Yes, Andy.

And I'm therapy about it.

And I'm doing the best I can.

I was struck about you telling

your therapist that you're at risk

of becoming hateful or mean.

I really risk becoming hateful, becoming mean,

becoming something that I don't wanna be.

Meaner and more hateful.

Well, I was gonna say, is there any part of you,

now, watching the show, that thinks that you have

maybe crossed that threshold?

No, I knew when it was happening.

I didn't have to watch this to know that my behavior was bad.

Ladies, is Erika her own worst enemy

when it comes to her defense?

Absolutely.

In Aspen that night, I thought she

was gonna wake up tomorrow and be like,

"What the hell did I say?"

You know, that's why I got so upset.

Kyle, you and I have been friends for a long time.

I needed you to be just a little bit more neutral.

I've been trying to be neutral, but at that moment,

I could no longer do that with the way

you were speaking that night. - Kyle, I'm speaking truth.

There's only so much I could take.

And when you're saying, "There's dead bodies"--

There are dead bodies.

Are they mine?

That's a normal reaction to the way that you--

No, it is not. No.

It 100% is, Erika.

- I'm sorry. - You were out of control.

No, I was not out of control. I was angry.

[tense music]

You were out of control.

No, I was not out of control.

I was angry.

Let me ask you this. When you watched it back,

did you see that she was actually trying to help you?

- No. - Do you realize that in our

defending you, as your friend, over this time--

do you realize the heat that we have taken?

Oh. No, please, don't do that.

I take a lot of heat for that.

And I say, "Listen, she's my friend all this time.

I have to wait and let this ride out, like she has said."

But when I see you speak like that, I cannot do that!

I cannot get attacked in this group continuously,

over and over. - I wasn't trying

to attack you, I was actually trying to help you,

saying, stop talking like that. - I understand that.

That's not the way it sounded.

What are you afraid of by showing some empathy...

- No, I'm not-- - And waiting

for the process to point to-- - I have showed empathy,

but I am so attacked every day. - It's not landing.

- What? - It's not landing.

- You know what is landing? - What?

Ruthlessly being persecuted.

I cannot sit there and be berated

over and over for two years.

I--I mean, maybe the Dalai Lama can, but Erika cannot.

So, let's talk about the earrings.

Why are you so intent on keeping them?

Is it for financial reasons?

I do not have them.

- You don't have them? - Hold on.

Were you wearing them in Colorado?

Yes, because I was-- I was ordered

to turn them over after.

These were 790, and now they're 1.3, so there you go.

Why wouldn't I wear my earrings?

They've been my earrings for 15 years.

And until the day that they are not my earrings,

I will wear them.

You're trying to get them back, though, right?

We're on appeal.

For legal reasons.

Okay, well that means you're in court

trying to get them back.

We're on appeal. For legal reasons.

Okay. We're saying the same thing.

- We're not. - Okay.

- But we are. - Okay.

Yeah.

We're on appeal.

Okay.

@1984isnow tweeted, "I would fight for the earrings, too.

"Erika put in the work of being married to Tom.

She deserves her baubles."

Ladies, how many of you would keep the earrings?

- I wouldn't. - I would not.

You would not, Dorit?

- No. - No.

No. I wouldn't want anything to do with it.

When was the last time you spoke to Tom?

Last week, he called.

Yeah.

And what are those conversations like?

"How you doing?" "How you doing?"

"Oh good." "Okay, great."

"Okay, bye."

You know. But I don't--

And someone recently asked me, "Well, why

do you still speak to him?" I was like, "Humanity."

I'm just thinking about someone else who kind of lost

it all at the hands of their husband,

and that was Ruth Madoff.

- Yeah. - Do you ever think about her?

I don't think about Ruth.

I don't.

Right.

At Crystal's birthday party, you talked

about going and seeing your old Pasadena house.

Do you miss that house?

I drove by it the other day.

And I just looked it.

And I was like, "All right, well," and drove on.

- She's gone. - Yeah.

There's no returning. - Yeah.

And I knew that the day I left.

Do you miss your old life?

You've never heard me say, "Oh, my God,

what am I gonna do with my house?"

or "Oh, my God, I had to give up my earrings."

I've never whined one iota.

I have a job. I'm working it out.

It's gonna be fine.

The house can come and go.

The sh-- can come and go.

I'm just fighting for myself.

- All right. - Yeah.

We'll leave it there.

We'll be right back. - Thank you.

Oy.

- Oh, can I have that tissue? - Yeah. Tissue.

- Thanks. - Good job.

- Is it time for a break now? - Yes.

Oh, good. That is my cue.

♪

So, I feel like the Givenchy looks a little more--

- No. - No, I like the velvet.

Yeah. Kathy, it's beautiful.

It's more cohesive with the dress.

Paris started that a long time ago.

You know, I gave her Barbie birthdays every single year

till she was 35. - Wow.

All right, kids. Wish me luck.

- Good luck. - Hello.

Right turn.

♪

- Oh! - Well, hello there, Kathy.

- Hello. - Look at this.

Majesty, sit right here.

Thank you. Muah.

Welcome. How are you?

Have a seat. - Hello.

- Hi! - You look great.

Muah.

Hi, girls.

- Hi. - Hello.

Hey, everybody.

We are back with more from "The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills Reunion."

Joining us now is Kathy Hilton.

Hi, Kathy. - Hi.

How are you? - Great to see you.

Good to see you.

You didn't wear your hotel slippers today.

I have them in the dressing room.

- You do? - Mm-hmm.

So, you schlonked through an airport wearing slippers?

all: Schlonked?

Yes, 'cause my feet were hurting.

Those are your shoes?

You went through the airports like that?

- Yes. - What if people recognize you?

They don't.

Cecilia from Denver wants to know

if you've finally figured out how to DM Rick

on Instagram yet?

Yes.

Now, wouldn't the best way to contact him be to text him?

No, I think I did text him.

- Yeah. - And you did the--

and you did the comment section.

In the comment section?

Yeah, she thinks texting and comment section

is the same thing. - And then I did

what Lisa Rinna does,

and I took it off 20 minutes later.

- Oh, you deleted it. - Mm-hmm.

Got it.

Well, after Kathy's avalanche of a meltdown in Aspen,

Lisa and Erika refused to let it bury them,

even if it strained their friendship with Kyle

and damaged Kyle and Kathy's relationship.

Take a look.

Kathy, you all just went on a trip to Aspen.

I'm seeing a lot of people-- - Yeah, I wanna

clear something up.

I just read that I was screaming and throwing things.

That is not me.

Can I try a little shot of that 818 tequila?

- Yes. - I wanna see what

that tastes like. - [sighs]

Oh, that's cute.

It's my friend Kendall Jenner's tequila.

[dramatic music]

Once Kathy's mad,

it's hard to turn that around.

You guys, should we walk into the Caribou Club

for five minutes to see it?

Kyle wants to go to one more bar.

What could possibly happen?

Oh, my God, I can't--

Kathy, she's a little off.

I just saw her completely raging,

screaming at the girls, and mostly at Kyle.

We get back to Kyle's house, and it's just the two of us.

And it gets worse.

♪

The most vile things came out of this human being

about her very own sister.

She said, "I will destroy Kyle and her family

if it's the last thing I ever do."

You wanna swear on your life on a Bible?

This is far more about Kathy and Kyle

than it is about anything else? - Whatever you want to call it.

You were a witness.

I was a witness to a car crash.

Yes.

It was like a really bad car accident.

I'm not gonna take it to my grave,

'cause I'd get sick and get cancer.

That's how bad it is to have these kinds of things go on

and not express them.

You're only punishing me, just so you know.

I'm sorry. Hold on.

Your sister's punishing you.

That's right.

Your sister's punishing you.

When I hear you talk like that, and the things you said,

I feel like you hate me or something.

Come here.

Come here!

I am so proud of you. Do you hear me?

- Mm-hmm. - I love you so much.

All right. Lots to digest.

Lots to discuss. - Yes.

I wanna start with the tequila.

Okay, realitytvbabe00 on Twitter said, "Riddle me this.

"Why can't Kathy promote her tequila?

"We've heard about Rinna's lips and wine, Dorit's swim

"and bridalwear, Kyle's stores, Asher's music, Erika's singing

and airline. The list could go on and on."

Ladies, how do you respond?

Were you too tough on her about the tequila?

Listen, I did not know that there was

other footage of the tequila.

But my feeling is, "Well, they're

not gonna catch that 'cause it wasn't like cameras

were just on me."

Happy New Year. - Thank you.

Here's the tequila you like.

Somebody did send me some pink tequila.

Maybe it's us.

I want everybody to try this.

Attention, ladies.

I thought we would do a little bottoms up.

- No. - No!

You wanted to get your tequila on the show.

It's not a big deal. - Right.

So when it comes to the Kamo Sabe.

Kimo Sabe.

Kamo Sabe, Kumo Sabe--whatever.

Kimo Sabe.

And we're leaving to go up, I'm thinking, in my mind,

Kyle is sweet.

She's having--gonna do the little tasting here,

'cause the four bottles were there.

Let me ask you this.

When you heard Lisa order Kendall Jenner tequila,

did that piss you off?

Not at her.

But I was angry that Kyle-- 'cause it put it

in my head-- and you know what,

I shouldn't put things in my head, thinking,

and then get disappointed.

You were mad at Kyle for not making a big--

And now, I'm embarrassed at myself.

What was I supposed to say to her?

"You're not allowed to order a different tequila?"

No, no. I'm disappointed

'cause I'm thinking I overthought this

and I'm thinking this is a little thing for me.

I wanna explain this.

I had been very supportive of Kathy's tequila.

- Yes! - And I think she knows that.

I had had it on camera at Diana's.

I loved it.

I talked about it all the time.

So the way that it played out, I'm sorry if it

hurt Kathy's feelings.

It was never my intention to do that.

No, and I thought that.

I was disappointed by expecting something, thinking--

Of. I understand that.

- Because honestly-- - So it's my fault.

- I'm a little--hold on. - So it was my fault.

- I'm a little-- - No, honey.

No, it was my fault, like everything always----ing is.

[tense music]

♪

Coming up next...

"Can't believe I have to be around these----ing peons.

They need to go away." - Lisa...

- "This is my show." - You are going to

take a lie detector test.

♪

It was my fault, like everything always----ing is.

And I don't care that I'm saying the F word.

I didn't do anything.

I literally didn't know anything.

I was just trying to host my party.

We didn't even know it was gonna be there,

and then it was just, I went up to the girl at the bar...

- Okay. - And I said I'm happy

that it's in the corner. - Kyle, it's nothing

to cry about. - It is, Kathy!

It's not fair the way I'm treated like that.

It's not right. You got mad at me.

But I apologized to you, but I'm trying to let

you know where my head was at.

And you're saying, "It was fine you did,

I was upset with Kyle."

I get it, but I do just want to say this.

No, it's my fault.

I do just want to say this.

You were mad at Rinna for ordering the 818.

- You were-- - But I didn't think that

she did it on purpose is my point to you.

Sure, it annoyed me.

Okay, moving on.

I want to talk about the final night in Aspen,

when you all went clubbing.

Okay.

Kathy, what happened that night to send

you kind of over the edge?

Well, okay. So, I'm thinking, all right,

I want everybody to have fun. I go over to the DJ.

He's got headphones. He's looking down.

He doesn't see me, so I get frustrated.

I go back into the room, and there's a manager.

I said, "If I gave you money, would

you put some songs on for us, my friends and I, to dance?"

And he said, "No no, it's way too busy in here.

No. Not tonight. Not tonight."

I said, "Really? I'm not a member,

but for 30 years that I've come here,

on and off, they have taken a request,

as they do in the South of France or London and Paris."

And I think that annoyed him.

So he looked at me and he said, "Where are you from?"

And I said L.A. He goes, "Then go back to L.A."

So I go, "We're outta here."

So I go over to Kyle to tell her what happened.

And she was-- - Wanted to stay.

Well, she--yeah.

There was a reason behind that.

Kathy, it's the way you speak to me.

You came up, and you didn't say, "This guy just

hurt my feelings. I'm so embarrassed."

You said, "We are out of here."

Everybody saw. - I know.

And you looked at me like, "You----ing leave now."

And I was like, "Hold on a minute."

- I was-- - Kathy, first of all...

I'm not proud of that.

I'm an adult. You can't talk to me like that...

Okay.

And expect me to say, "Oh, okay."

What did you guys see?

[sighs]

I see Kathy coming from the dancefloor, very upset.

I said, "Kathy, what's wrong?"

She says, "The DJ is an old----ing [BLEEP]"

and walked off.

That is what happened.

I will admit to what I do, but I

will not be painted to be this monster that you've tried to--

Those were your words. That's what you said to me.

Never even--never, ever.

Well, I'm just telling you.

- I didn't heart that. - And I'm just telling you.

Nobody else heard that.

No, you said it to me directly.

- Anyone that knows me... - Kathy.

Knows I don't talk like that.

And anyone that knows me knows I'm not lying.

I have nothing to lie about. - Oh, really?

- Yeah, really. - I have a little more

credibility than you.

- Really? - Mm-hmm.

Because I don't lie.

- I don't either. - I have a sterling reputation.

Not right now, you don't.

- I am not going to-- - It was--

there was also an investigation into this.

- Yes. - And it came to a case of...

- She said, she said. - Yeah.

Exactly. - It was inconclusive.

Yeah. No doubt.

- Just to say. - So.

- Who investigated? - HR.

Oh, they do a big thing.

- Oh, wow.

- Yeah. - Yes.

Isn't it interesting nothing came out

in the press about Erika walking around with

the big $250,000 Cartier ring?

- That I've had for years? - Going around with

a big crocodile bag...

- That I've had for 20 years? - And a fur coat?

- They're not yours. - They're not mine?

Those are not your belongings.

How do you know that?

Everybody knows that.

And you have no remorse at all.

Wow, look at you trying to save yourself.

- I'm just saying to you. - No.

Listen, I have--actually, I bought that coat in Aspen,

many years ago.

The Gucci purse is very old.

Well, I just want to be clear,

because I don't--I never heard that word said.

Just to be clear. I never heard that.

- In don't talk like that, so-- - I have to put that--

You talked like that that night.

So, that's what you saw.

So, Lisa, you say to Kathy, "I'm gonna take you out."

Because she's making a scene.

I texted the cars and I...

And Crystal and I were gonna take her out.

To the production. I said, "Let's go."

- So, you went, too. - I couldn't get out because--

She couldn't get out 'cause she didn't have a coat.

Right. Okay. So, you and Kathy leave.

- Yes. - And you go back to the house.

Well, we get into the sprinter van first.

- Okay. - So, it's really

where it started was in the sprinter van.

And what started?

Kathy's meltdown.

Kathy screaming and yelling and venting

and saying things that I have never heard in my life.

This, you recall.

I recall venting,

thinking that we've

known each other a long time, this is not being filmed,

and I felt that I could talk to you.

And, you know, halfway through it, do you recall

saying to me, "I get it. I get it.

You're preaching to the choir"?

Do you remember those words?

Um-- Do you remember those words?

I don't exactly. No, because--

Yeah, exactly.

But to want to take down NBC, Bravo...

- Oh, please! - Evolution, the show.

"I'm gonna get Kyle fired because I'm gonna"--

- Yeah, Lisa... - Kathy.

- I'm just telling you. - You want--

That's not true.

You want me to--do you want me to tell the truth?

I'll tell the truth. - That is not true.

Lisa, here are some of the things

that you claim that Kathy said to you in Aspen.

- That I heard Kathy say to me. - Okay.

"Dorit is a stupid, useless idiot.

[dramatic music]

"Crystal and Sutton are pieces of sh--.

"Useless idiots, should be fired.

♪

"Can't believe I have to be around these----ing peons.

They need to go away." - Lisa, I'm gonna make you--

"I have to do everything around here.

This is my show."

You are going to take a lie detector test.

"I have big deals over at NBC.

"Everyone's protecting me.

"I'll take NBC, Bravo-- I'll take down the show.

"I will destroy Kyle and her family

if it's the last thing I ever do."

Whew!

Kathy, do you remember saying any of these things?

No, I don't. All of that, no, I don't.

♪

Kathy, do you remember saying any of these things?

No, I don't.

All of that, no, I don't.

It was so heartbreaking.

You guys, it was so heartbreaking...

You know, what I said to Lisa--

That I was on the other end of this abuse.

I know that you're having problems.

I'm having problems?

What kind of problems am I having?

I don't know.

And also, I'd like to talk about the text.

What text?

Your text to me?

Yeah. Guess what?

What?

It's not here.

Oh, that I made it up?

Well, it's not on my phone.

- Wow. - You could have deleted it.

And you know what I would like to do?

Well, show me your text from Kathy.

I'll show you right here. Here they are.

Okay, here's--here is the text that she's talking about.

It's-- - I didn't wanna go here.

I don't want to go here. - It is--it's on there.

Yeah, you did.

I had to lock myself in the bedroom.

I don't know why you would have

to lock the door, from me.

'Cause you were-you were having a psychotic break.

How would you think I would feel to hear that

you wanna destroy your sister?

But I also--I also don't want to hear...

- Why would you say that? - Kathy, I never said that.

The things if it's gonna destroy my family.

- Kathy. - I never said that.

I said other things.

Tell us what you said that night, Kathy.

I just said I feel dismissed.

I feel like Kyle hates me sometimes.

You didn't throw your glasses off and stamp on them?

And you didn't-- - Well, I wouldn't throw them,

because you know what?

- You need 'em. - I need 'em.

Yeah, but you threw them down.

You were stomping on them as you were pounding the walls.

There's no way. Well, the glasses

are actually in the dressing room, so.

- Okay. All right. - If you want to look at 'em.

My issue with this is that it got out from in the group to,

you know, outside of this, which just made our life

more difficult, you know.

Did either one of you leak to the press

any of this information about Kathy?

No.

It was someone who works for you.

Interesting.

The accusation was made that what happened in Aspen

was leaked to the press.

It was made that it came from you, Erika.

Right.

First off, Jack, my publicist,

has represented Nicky for years.

Yeah, I don't think he would do it.

For years.

Was there any part of you that wanted

this out there in order to--

No, I wanted us to discuss it here, because that's

where the group is.

But nothing stays here anymore.

Everything's on social media. - That's--that's right.

That is right. - I understand that.

Well, that's right, Lisa. You're doing most of it!

I don't do most of it, Garcelle.

Yes, you do!

When I got home on Sunday, from Aspen...

Okay.

I got a call-- 'cause remember, we were

in a club of 200 people. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I wasn't there. - I got a call

from someone at "TMZ," asking about

what happened in the club.

They already knew.

They already knew something had gone down.

Am I upset it's out there? 100%.

I wish it never got out there.

Well, what happened was I apologized to Kyle.

I go over to her house.

I decide I'm going to make Kyle happy.

I am going to apologize to her on camera.

Howdy, ma'am. - Howdy, ma'am.

Come in.

These flowers are for you.

Thank you.

I just came in from the Ponderosa

all the way from Cartwright City.

How are you?

To apologize.

And then she says,

"Oh, wait a minute,

you have to apologize to Lisa."

Rinna's coming here in a little while.

- Oh, good. - So if you--

if you want to talk to her in person...

Yeah, I would love to.

You can hang around.

I'm getting blamed for that, too?

I tried calling you.

I gave you the option so we could move--

- Why apologize to her, though? - 'Cause you did it to me!

'Cause she was talking about it, and I was trying to--

I tried calling you.

I was trying to keep it quiet!

I was willing to call you on the phone.

You wanted it on camera. - You did it to me.

Baby, you wanted it on camera...

You did it to me.

Because your contract was coming up.

- Oh, my God. - Wow!

Well, it's true!

And you needed some drama, because...

- I don't need any drama. - You fight with everybody.

Do you know what, Kathy? I don't need any drama.

You fought, and you drove Lisa Vanderpump...

- Do you know what? - Off the show.

I drove Lisa Vanderpump off the show.

Okay. - What you did to my sister.

- You will never... - Everybody will know.

- Go near my husband. - Everybody will know.

Do you----ing understand that?

Everybody will know.

Don't you ever go after my----ing husband!

Everybody will know!

You've had problems with everybody,

with Camille Grammer.

I mean, the list can go on and on.

And then saying that you've been bullied?

You are the biggest bully in Hollywood,

and everyone knows it.

Is that right?

- Yeah, you are. You're mean. - Oh.

- And you don't tell the truth. - Wow.

- Wow - Okay. Let me--

- This is so sad. - Okay.

All right. Okay, hold on. - It's so sad.

No, it's not sad. You brought this on yourself.

No, you brought it on yourself,

my sweet dear, you did. - No, I didn't, darling.

- This is between you two. - Yes!

- And you need to work it. - If it is between the two of

them, then why is she in it? - Why is she in the middle?

What you said about your sister is horrible.

You know what, I wish you had said that to me that night.

Why didn't you just say, "Kathy,

you and Kyle love each other.

Your sisters. I'm gonna go to bed now."

I couldn't. You were screaming and yelling

like a----ing banshee.

- I'm not yelling at you. - You were.

- I'm not yelling-- - You were.

But to say that people are useless or anything...

You said all of that.

About any one of these girls--

You said that about those girls.

- I swear to God, on my life-- - You did,

and you said you wanna ruin NBC,

you're taking NBC-- - Oh, ruin--Lisa, you're

grasping at straws. - I'm not.

What I wanna know is, if it's between Kathy and Kyle...

- And Kyle. - Then, leave it alone.

She attacked me in the house in Aspen.

- She attacked you? - Attacked you?

Well, she abused me. It was abusive.

- Abuse? - Screaming and yelling at me.

Abuse doesn't have to be hitting somebody, Garcelle.

No, I know that. I'm not saying that.

Well, but you've screamed and yelled at people.

- I'm just saying-- - So?

You're gonna hurt her.

And she's the one that's your friend.

Well, that's what I was gonna say.

If she wants to move on--

I understand.

She doesn't want to know the specifics.

- Right. - She wants to

be sisters with her sister. - Yeah.

So, how do you then let it go?

I let it go right here and now.

- You do? - Yes.

- Would you really, though? - Yes, I would.

It's now on you two to work out whatever it is,

and I will absolve myself from it from this day forward.

I guarantee you that.

And I wish you only the best.

I really do.

Thank you.

I think people are really questioning why

you so dogmatically were trying to get

in the middle of sisters?

I was traumatized by what happened in that house.

I mean, that's the bottom line.

With everything that you have seen on this show...

- Andy, this-- - That was the thing

that traumatized you? - This was in the dark, at--

In the dark? We were sitting in Erika's

room, right by the front door. - But seriously,

you've seen some sh--... - Yes, I have.

- On this show. - It was bright light.

- It affected me - ing deeply.

Yeah. Way worse than Kim.

Nothing close to Kim.

- Okay. - So, if you wanna

really go there, I saw the Devil,

you were a----ing monster,

and that was that. - Okay, please, you guys.

- That was that. - Okay.

[huffs]

Were you upset with Lisa for bringing it on to the show?

I'm sorry, I have a lump in my throat.

I can't talk now. Give me a second.

You have a lump in your throat?

Yeah.

Um--

I feel very, you know, put in the middle

of this whole situation.

And obviously, my sister is my sister.

My feelings were very hurt.

I feel like I always get the blame for things in my family,

like, you know, the thing, the Kimo Sabe, this and that.

And I didn't - ing do anything.

And then, when this whole thing came out,

it just made it worse and set us back.

And the only one it hurts here is me.

I'm the one who gets----ed!

[BLEEP] with her, [BLEEP] with her,

on our side of the family, it always

ends up like this for me.

So, are you mad at Lisa...

That's what I was gonna say.

For bringing this up on the show?

- Why aren't you mad at Lisa? - I'm mad--

I'm upset that I'm in this position

because it came out, but I'm also hurt by my sister.

Because look where we are.

Look where we are right now. - Not good.

But you're gonna work through it.

You're gonna work through it.

And at the end of the day, you're blood, and your family.

- I understand that. - And you both need to.

So, you'll have a few bumps in the road,

but maybe it'll make you stronger.

I'm tired of the----ing bumps.

I understand that.

It spills into, you know, her kids and their kids,

who I love a lot.

I mean, I know that Paris has been liking a lot of tweets,

you know, in your defense.

And that-that really hurts me a lot.

Does that--

She's very, very protective over her mother.

I need to end up in a better place

here, with her, than when she came.

- Well. - Okay, well then, lets--

I don't know.

I would like to try to do that.

- Because what? - How do you--

Because of what? Tell me.

- I don't wanna talk about it. - No, I'm asking you.

Kyle, I don't wanna talk about it.

Well, here's my question to you, Kathy.

You've got Farrah getting married in the spring.

I have--that's-- I'm very happy for her.

And your family will be there?

I'm sure.

Okay, why are you upset with me

right now because I got upset?

- [sighs] - Just say it.

Why are you upset-- - Because you're acting like

a martyr, like it's just you.

- I'm sorry that I'm upset. - And that's not fair to me.

That's not fair to me, Kyle. - I'm not acting like a martyr.

I'm sorry that I'm emotional and I get upset about things.

You also do. - Okay.

- So, what-- - No, I think that I've had

so much that's hurt me, and--

She wants you to accept a little bit of responsibility

in this, I think. Not just--

Can I talk to my sister?

I don't--I'm sorry, I love you, but I don't--

I thought we were gonna have more to our relationship.

I don't want-I don't want you to interject

in this right now. - No problem.

Thank you. I love you, but I really--

- Listen, we're all waiting... - Thank you.

And trying to, you know, like, move this along.

So. - Okay.

If you can figure out a way to work it out...

- Okay. Okay. - Great.

Okay. All right.

What is bothering you right now?

Because I have my own reasons for getting upset right now.

Because I don't lie, number one.

- Okay. - And you know that.

- Yeah. - Do you not know that or what?

I don't know what you're saying.

I don't talk bad about people.

These things-- - Maybe this will simplify it.

Wait, are you talking about what they said?

- Yes. - I said--I don't know if

you were paying attention, I said I never heard those words.

I'm just... shocked.

I think that is--

I was shocked, too. So I get that.

- Yeah. - Okay, okay.

You've--you've-- - Please.

- You guys, all of that, and-- - You've--okay.

I will say this. All of that,

and, like, the taunting stuff on Instagram

and all that with her, only hurts me.

Well, I hope that the two of you

can get together in the very near future.

We're sisters. Of course.

Yeah. - Yeah.

I love you, honey.

Okay, we're gonna leave it there.

Kathy. - Yes.

Thank you for joining us today.

- Oh, thank you. - I know this was not fun.

- Oh, yeah. - But I appreciate it.

- Mm-hmm. - We're gonna be

right back after this.

I don't know why you're mad at me.

I really don't. I don't get why you're--

I mean, I know you very well.

- Yeah. - Yeah, so--

Me?

- I don't wanna talk about it. - I--I--

Ow. Whoop.

Once again, everything is my fault.

- Bye, Kathy. - Bye, bye.

Well...

[sniffles]

- Are we getting a drink? - I know!

- Well, they were like-- - We have a toast?

I know!

No, no. You don't have to.

Doug, what do you wanna do here?

Kyle's a wreck.

- No. - Okay.

All right. Okay, we're gonna do this quick.

Okay.

We are back with some final thoughts

for "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion."

Kyle, you've been crying for the last while.

You're clearly still very upset about everything

with your sister.

Do you feel like you two can figure this out?

- You hope so? - Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Lisa, losing your mom, I know, has been one of the toughest

moments of your whole life.

What was it like sharing that experience with the world?

I think we grieve in private in the worlds that we live in,

and I don't think we grieve in public,

so it was a----ing mindblower.

Erika, you got some tough love

this season from your friends, from both Lisa and Kyle.

How are you feeling about where you are right now?

I'm good. Things are good.

You know, I've had some great legal progress, and, I mean,

that's really all I can ask for right now.

Dorit, as difficult as this year has been for year,

was there a silver lining?

I am reminded every single day,

when I look at my two kids, how very, very, very lucky I am.

Crystal, some of your friendships

were really tested this year, but you

really found your voice.

Where do you stand in this group now?

I was challenged, but it's made some of my friendships

a lot stronger.

And I've learned a lot of lessons about myself

and the type of friend that I want to be,

and I move forward with that.

So, good place.

Sutton, it seemed like your name

was on the tip of everyone's tongue this season.

Do you feel like your friendships

are in a better place? - Yeah.

I mean, I never know quite where I stand with some

of these ladies, so we'll see.

I mean, I like forgiveness, and I

think we can all work on that.

I think it's important to move on with our lives

in a positive way.

Garcelle, you got your beach house being built.

Do you have your eye set on a new goal?

- I wanna have more fun. - Yeah.

I wish we would all have more fun.

- Yeah. - That's what I wish for.

both: Amen to that.

Well, I have taken the liberty of ordering

drinks for all of you.

It's a difficult order.

I hope I got it right.

Belvedere soda with three lemons,

carcass out, in a short glass.

Is that right, Dorit? - Yes!

Yes!

All right.

You all earned these drinks.

Yes, we have.

Oh, my goodness. - Ladies.

To Beverly Hills, ladies. - Yes.

- Beverly Hills. - To Beverly Hills.

- Thanks for a great season. - Thanks for the PTSD.

Yeah.

Oh, yes. Thank you very much.

- It's been a minute. - Yes, it has.

- She said it's been a minute. - Oh, my gosh.

- That's why I was like-- - [sniffles]

Oh, my God.

All right, thank you, everybody.

Goodnight. - Thanks, everybody.

- Bye, guys. - Goodnight, everybody.

- See you. - Goodnight, Garcelle.

- Take care. - I'll see you in New York.

[tense music]

♪

Okay, honey, listen, you know I talk to you like a sister,

and I speak to Kathy exactly the same way.

Tonight, at the very, very end,

you're not gonna get that resolve and that warm feeling

like everything is okay and you guys are

going into tomorrow super, super tight,

as if nothing happened.

You know that's not gonna happen.

And as much as you-- - We were supposed to fix it.

- You are gonna fix it. - No, you don't know.

- I understand. - I can tell by the way that

we ended there, it's not. - I know.

I know. But you know what?

It's out of everyone else's hands,

and it's in yours and Kathy's.

And that was the most important thing of today.

And that's achieved.

You and Kathy can handle it, and, Kyle, I will help.

♪

Thank you.

[sighs]

Ugh, that was rough.

I-I don't know.

I tried the best I could.

I'm really glad that it's over.

♪

Kyle, if she makes you pay for the sins of others,

it's on her.

I've been watching you cry for the last two hours.

What good is this doing for you, honey?

What good is it doing you, baby? Please.

Please, please, please, please.

Kyle, you need a good night rest, honey.

It's been a long day.

It's been a long day, baby.

♪

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