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Sydney Harbour is home to one of the
world's most iconic zoos, Taronga.
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Everyone stand as far apart as possible.
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But never before... Make sure you've got
your mask on. ...has it faced a year
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with its many monumental challenges.
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It's really hard to see because I'm
fogging up.
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Atta boy, Jim. Nearly home, mate.
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The teams across both of Taronga's
zoos... Open. ...meet every challenge
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on. And our cameras are there.
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Every step of the way.
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On this episode... There they are. Hi.
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The baby bringing a species back from
the brink. This is the first time
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been picked up. But for zookeepers, the
devil's in the details. So this one here
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is a little female.
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She looks great. She looks amazing.
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Do you want to pull it away from him?
Yep. Moving target.
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Because he's ripping through it. He's
tearing it. The trick of feeding Naga.
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This is what he's built for.
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He's built to take down large mammals
and tear them to pieces.
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And for the first time ever at Taronga.
So this is very, very new for us.
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These guys are definitely the eel deal.
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They're really, really slimy and it
makes it impossible to get a good grip
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them.
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We know many of Taronga's animals by a
reputation.
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The giraffe is seen as gentle giant.
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Lions are the kings of the jungle.
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And the seals are the jesters of the
sea.
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But often, their public personas are far
from reality.
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And for one Aussie animal in particular,
their global reputation couldn't be
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further from the truth.
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I love Tassie Devils because they have a
lot of personality.
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People think they're crazy, nasty things
that spin around in circles and attack
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on sight. In actual fact, they're very
shy, nervous animals.
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They're great mums. They're very
protective mums. They look after their
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Some of them are feistier than others.
Others are very shy. They much prefer to
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hide. You can go bushwalking and walk
past a Tasmanian devil and you won't
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it's there because it will hide from
you. Just don't fall over and bang your
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head.
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Keeper Tony has been working with the
Tasmanian devils for years and loves to
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show people there's way more to these
curious creatures than you might think.
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They're the largest remaining
carnivorous marsupial in the world.
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in that regard.
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They're the primary carnivore in
Tasmania. They're incredibly efficient
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scavengers. If you've got a dead
kangaroo or sheep in the paddock, along
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four, five, six Tasmanian devils and
they will clean it up overnight. So by
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doing that, they prevent diseases from
spreading and they recycle too by pooing
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everywhere.
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Today, Tony is simulating a carcass feed
for Taronga's two Tassie devils.
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Gunner. and Rosalie.
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So what I'm doing now, I'm preparing
some kangaroo tail.
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There's thick bone in there.
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Gunna and Rosalie will eat all of that
bone and all.
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Incredibly powerful jaw pressure.
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But I like to make it interesting for
them. I like to spread it around, give
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them a bit of a scatter feed. So I'm
cutting some of the meat off, add my
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fingers to the diet, and I'll scatter it
around in the enclosure so they have to
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spend a little bit of time looking for
it.
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Okay, Gunna, there you go, mate.
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This is Gunna, our male.
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So you're hearing the crunch of an
incredibly powerful jaw pressure on the
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Tasmanian devil. About four or five
times more powerful than the strongest
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you can think of. So any bone that you
can think of in our body, Gunna can eat
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it.
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That's the kangaroo tail that he's got
there. It's about that thick, the bone.
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He can also eat up to 40 % of his own
body weight in one meal.
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It's easy to see devils love their food.
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Unfortunately, the simple act of eating
is also the biggest threat to their
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survival. As adults in the wild, when
they come together to fight over food,
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that's when aggression happens, when
they scream and shout at each other.
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Inevitably, there are puncture wounds,
and that's when they pass on the devil
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facial tumour disease to each other.
It's a very nasty, contagious cancer.
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Unfortunately, it kills the devils
within five or six months, maybe up to a
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year. Devil populations have dropped to
less than 20 % what they were only 20
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years ago.
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So Taronga have jumped in, joining the
fight to save the devil.
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Gunna is part of an Australia -wide and
worldwide now insurance breeding program
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to breed up a population of Tasmanian
devils in captivity in case they go
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extinct in the wild.
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Taronga's vet team deal with all sorts
of animals in the wildlife hospital.
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But they also treat
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animals in specially designed surgical
dens.
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Or even in their own exhibits.
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Sometimes their animals just need a
quick once -over.
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or an initial check before deciding on
their treatment.
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His elbow is moving fine.
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Hello, gorgeous.
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So each day, one of Taronga's vets will
hit the road and conduct some house
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calls.
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This morning, vet Frances is rostered
on, and her first consultation is with
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chimpanzee.
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Hi, Largo. Good, so we're off to see
Sasha.
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Keeper Lauren is concerned that senior
chimp Sasha isn't being her usual
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energetic self.
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It's really been the last few days she's
just been really quiet.
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It's not that she's unable to move,
she's just moving at a slower pace than
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she usually does.
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Sasha is one of the older females in the
group and recently we've just had her
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showing a little bit more fatigue and a
bit more slower movement.
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She's still eating okay, but she is
taking herself to bed a bit earlier and
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taking a bit more time throughout the
day resting, where the rest of the group
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is still a bit more active.
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And she certainly does look like she's
trying to stay away from everyone else
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the moment.
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Yeah.
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I'll just move up a little bit.
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Close observation of Sasha over the next
few days will be important.
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How much does she eat? How keen is she
to eat?
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Is she coughing, sneezing? Is she doing
anything else? And that's going to give
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me a little bit more to go on.
Obviously, I can't touch her or I can't
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her chest or do any of those normal sort
of diagnostic things. So it's really
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important that, you know, we use the
keepers' close interaction with the
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to try and inform our assessment of her
health.
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At the moment, to do anything more, we
have to anaesthetise Sasha. And that's a
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really big thing to do for a chimp.
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At this stage, I don't think we need to
do that. We're going to monitor and
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we're going to wait a little bit longer
and try and get that extra information.
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Francis' morning rounds are only just
kicking off. Ruth, I'm just making my
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up the hill to the reptile house to see
that green python. I'll be there
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shortly. She's on her way to visit a
python that has tree frogs as roommates.
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I'm about to duck in and grab the green
python and bring him back out here for
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Francis to have a good look at. It may
be a bit tricky. We'll see what sort of
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mood he's in.
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But these frogs are more trouble than
they look.
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While Chris recovers from his brush with
death, on the other side of the reptile
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world, Keeper Stu is checking in on one
of his favourite lizards.
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Hey, buddy.
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This is Naga. He's our nine -year -old
Komodo dragon, and he's got a real
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special place in my heart because when
we got eight of these dragons in from
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overseas... We were able to quarantine
them here at the zoo, and I looked after
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all eight of them. And I was fortunate
enough to pick the one that we wanted to
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keep here at Taronga, and I picked Naga.
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Not because he was the prettiest, but he
seemed to me to be the smartest.
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When I would ask for training or
conditioning, he seemed to be the one
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picked it up the quickest.
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Within the zoo, a lot of the reptiles
don't get a good rap for having
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personality. You know, people see the
snakes and the crocodiles, and they're
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seen as cold and emotionless.
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And then you look at this bloke here and
he's dripping with personality, really.
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So Naga really is one of my favourite
and I know he's a favourite of many of
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keepers.
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Reptiles are cold -blooded or
ectothermic and humans are warm -blooded
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endothermic. Really, all it means is we
generate our body heat internally
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through the metabolisation of our food.
These guys will use an outside heat
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source. They'll either have to use the
sun or they'll have to use a rock that
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has been heated by the sun.
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He's just woken up. He's sitting here
under his big heated cave.
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He's in a state of sort of slowly
warming his body up. He's not moving
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quick as he could. If we came in in the
afternoon, different animal. He's
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lightning fast.
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Also regulated by temperature is the
Komodo's appetite.
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What this means is, if he has a large
meal, he has to make sure that he can
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his body warm, or that food will
actually rot in his stomach and could
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And that is the same for all reptiles.
So we've hit the warm months now, and
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it's time to give Naga a nice big
carcass feed.
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And after he's eaten that, we won't
offer him food for probably close to 30
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days. With the upcoming carcass feed for
Naga, there are a few risks involved,
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and the main one is just getting the
carcass in place before Naga switches
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it.
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has over 70 razor -sharp teeth in it,
close to 10 millimetres long that are
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serrated like a steak knife. As soon as
that touches meat, it just slices it
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open.
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So we always have several keepers in
place. One of them will keep Naga's
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attention on the other side of the
exhibit while I place the carcass in
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There is a danger element, but it is
controlled and everyone involved is very
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well trained.
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The biggest problem confronting the
Tasmanian devil is the facial tumor that
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decimated their wild population.
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Taronga Zoo has joined a global effort
to try and understand this tumor with
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their project led by veterinary
pathologist Hannah.
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So Tasmanian devil facial tumour disease
actually refers to a very unusual type
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of transmissible cancer in that they are
actually transmitted between animals
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like a tissue graft when these animals
bite one another.
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In the early stages, devil facial tumour
disease presents as these small nodules
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within the oral cavity offer around the
canine teeth and they rapidly progress
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to become these very large ulcerating
masses.
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and in the later stages of disease may
extend to implicate other parts of the
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face, in this case the eye, and down
here the entire lower jaw.
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These devils really suffered.
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Before it was observed in 1996, the
devil was quite robust.
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They were not considered endangered in
any way, but since then numbers have
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actually plummeted so precipitously that
the devil is now an endangered species.
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Like a lot of people that work with the
devil, Hannah has developed a genuine
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affection for them.
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They're very charismatic. If you hear
them at night, they sound to me like
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a seal vomiting.
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But they play such an incredible role
within the Tasmanian landscape. They're
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apex predator, they're a scavenger, and
the loss of the devil from the Tasmanian
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ecosystem would have a devastating
impact.
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But thankfully, there is hope.
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So there are some great minds at work on
Tasmanian devil facial tumour disease.
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Some people are looking very closely at
the genome of the cancer and that
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information is very critical towards
designing either a treatment or a
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that can prevent this tumour. And then
there's the more practical work of
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actually breeding these Tasmanian devils
up to preserve that genetic diversity.
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So while Hannah and her team continue
work to eradicate the tumour...
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Down at the devil habitat, they've just
taken delivery of the next best way to
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preserve the species.
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Grab this one first, Tony.
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Yep. Yep. Got a couple of new Tasmanian
devils, Regina and Krieger.
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They've come all the way from Western
New South Wales, from Dubbo, as part of
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the insurance breeding program, and
they're going to contribute, hopefully,
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saving the Tasmanian devil from
extinction, because there is still a
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they could go extinct.
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All right.
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Okay, time to explore your new home.
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There he goes.
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Oh, there he goes.
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He's going right down to the back by the
looks.
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I'm not sure where Regina is, but he'll
find her pretty quick.
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Yeah. He'll find somewhere to hide.
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It's a new chapter for us here. We
haven't bred for a couple of years, but
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I'm quite excited because it's about
five or six months before the next
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season. So by this time next year,
hopefully, we'll have some little joeys
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at Taronga Zoo in Sydney. So let's watch
this space.
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While Sydney waits for their baby devils
to arrive, out at Dubbo, they've
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already made a grand entrance.
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They're only little, so they're going to
be a bit squirmy than an adult.
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There they are. Hi.
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Taronga Zoo is home to a long list of
creatures.
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But one species hasn't really taken
centre stage before.
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Until now.
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We haven't done fish historically at
Taronga Zoo, so this is very, very new
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us. But it's been really exciting.
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We have Saratoga. We've got two species
of catfish, so Tandanus catfish as well
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as Salmontail catfish. We've got five
Archerfish.
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as well as one glass fish.
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So as soon as guests walk into the
retreat, they're greeted by this
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tank. It's really unique to have these
fish right on display as people walk in
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the door and be able to share how unique
they are.
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But adding fish to a collection means
keepers have to learn how to manage and
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care for them.
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But for James, that's all part of the
challenge.
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So while we care for Australian mammals
and we control the food they eat and we
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look after the space they live in, for
fish we're controlling the very oxygen
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they breathe. So it's a constant battle
of trying to look after fish and
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understand exactly what they need.
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Water is the lifeblood of nature and no
more here than at the zoo where we
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have... It's platypus and fish that
inhabit water systems, so we really need
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ensure that that water is healthy and
clean to make sure that the fish are
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looked after. So we do that through
filtration systems, so making sure that
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water is turned over. We remove the
waste material from it and we make sure
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it's returning healthy, clean water with
plenty of oxygen in it for the fish to
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thrive in.
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And the way they do that is at the very
heart of the retreat.
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So here we have our fish filtration.
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So this is where the water from the
tanker behind reception, comes down
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the pipes on the wall. So bag filters
remove the larger particles.
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It then gets pushed through a biological
filter, which is full of these plastic
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balls, where we grow all the bacteria,
which helps process all that leftover
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material. So whether it be fish waste or
old food, that bacteria will eat that.
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It then moves up into the heater slash
chiller. So depending on what
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you want the tank to be, we can adjust
that and keep it at the perfect
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for our fish to survive and thrive in.
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It brings a lot of challenges for
myself, but it's also exciting to share
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unique fish are. Fish are often
overlooked as just household pets, but
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inhabit all the world's oceans and all
the world's streams.
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It's really important to show off the
full ecosystem of Australia and give
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people a proper understanding of how
diverse Australia is.
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Now James is about to add the newest
species to the wildlife retreat.
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So these are the amazing short -finned
eels. So they're Australian native
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freshwater eels. So right now the eels
are in here just getting used to the new
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water setting. So they're getting used
to the temperature, they're getting used
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to the water chemistry.
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And this is where we're going to move
them from into their brand new pool
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outside.
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Eels can survive in a temperature range
from up to 30 degrees all the way down
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to about 12 degrees, but they're most
active in the warmer range. So we like
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keep it between 27 and 28 degrees here
so they have a very luxurious life. So
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very comfortable eels.
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And today we get to move them into their
brand new home.
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Taronga's vet team are always on the go.
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And daily health calls are all part of
their routine.
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Every day we do rounds outside in the
zoo and look at animals that aren't in
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hospital that we need to check up on.
It's critically important when we do
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rounds that we get the most information
we can so that we can make plans for how
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we're going to manage each animal.
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Hello, Chris.
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Hi. How are you going? And waiting
patiently for Frances.
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is a green python with a mysterious
abrasion on the tip of its tail.
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Hopefully the snake will be in a good
mood.
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We work with snakes at the zoo all the
time, venomous and non -venomous. We're
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very reliant on the keepers knowing the
mood and assessing the temperament of
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the snake and holding them in a way that
the snake is not distressed, but
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that it's safe for me to look at it.
What a magnificent creature. He looks in
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really good condition, doesn't he?
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When I'm handling this python, and being
a python it's completely non -venomous,
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I don't really need to do much to
restrain or to hold the snake other than
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giving it somewhere to climb.
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So we're looking at the very end of the
tail here.
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I think he's had some trauma to the very
end of his tail. In the wild, green
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pythons sometimes lure prey by making
their tail seem like worms.
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And that may be a clue to this python's
problem.
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With him doing that luring with his
tail, could the frogs in there latch
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his tail at all? They could do. They
could do. So this snake lives with five
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white -lipped tree frogs, which occur in
the same habitat in far north
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Queensland. But these pythons here are
very, very strictly...
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mammal and bird feeders. So there's no
risk to the frog, but sometimes a frog
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may indeed be jumping and reacting to
that movement.
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So there's no evidence that the snake
has got ascending necrosis, which means
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dead tissue starting to creep up the
tail. I'm pleased with that. I'm happy
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we leave him alone and you guys just
monitor.
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Sure. And we'll touch base with you,
say, in another 10 days or so and see
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he's going then. Yeah, great.
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Well, obviously we'd like to get to the
bottom of any injury for any of our
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animals, but with this snake here, he's
got to be one of our favourites.
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We just want to make sure that we're
doing everything we can for him.
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Last on this morning's house call list
are the giraffes, where keepers have
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noticed something suspicious on the ears
of Ibo and his mum, Keto.
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When we first noticed them, Frances,
they were more on the outer of the ear
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the top. Just around the edges.
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These giraffes develop these little
grey, round lesions on the insides and
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outsides of their ears.
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And we want to know what those are.
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So I do think it looks like there might
be a couple of new lesions sort of on
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the top of the back of that ear. Yep.
Right where the ear joint is head.
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The sorts of things that could cause
that are either bacterial or fungal
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infections. To determine the cause of
the skin irritation, Francis will need
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get a sample.
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But when you're dealing with the tallest
animal at the zoo, it's an even taller
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order.
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Fortunately, Keeper Jimmy may have a
solution.
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Francis, what we've been doing at the
moment, I don't know if this helps you,
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but we've been feeding Ivo and putting
our hands in here in the hope to
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eventually touch his ears. Is that going
to benefit you guys in any way? That
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would be really useful. I want to be
able to get some samples from his ears
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we can look under the microscope and we
can start looking, are there any
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bacteria there that we know can cause
this sort of issue or fungal infections?
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So we'll just try and work out whether
we need to treat it or not. He's not
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bothered. Yep.
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But we want to know what it is, so that
would be great if you can do that.
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Perfect. We're on to it. You just let me
know as soon as you think that you're
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at the stage where we can try and get
some samples.
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I'd say give it a couple of weeks and
we're good to go.
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Excellent. Well, we'll get that
organised.
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While the vet rounds are over for
another day, Francis has left Jimmy with
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important homework.
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Good.
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To get that sample, he's got a secret
weapon he thinks will get the job done.
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I'll have this sticky tape in my hand,
ready to put on his ear, pull it off,
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then it goes off to the vets. And it's
not going to be easy.
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Giraffe are prey animals, so it only
takes the slightest thing for them to
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what the heck is that?
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I'm expecting them to be nervous of the
slightest changes. And this, in my hand,
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is a slight change.
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Up at Reptile World, today is feed day
for Naga, the Komodo dragon.
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So Naga's got probably one of the widest
varieties of food of any of the animals
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here at the zoo. It's all meat. We feed
him things like fish, mites, rabbits,
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beef, pork, horse, deer, anything
really.
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To simulate how Naga would eat in the
wild, keepers have an ingenious way of
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presenting food to him.
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I'll start stringing up this wire.
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If you keep a good close eye on him.
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Yep. Yep.
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I've got a piece of wire that I can
string across the enclosure and put a
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of meat on it that will actually move
when Naga grabs it. So it's not a
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stationary food item. Every time he
grabs it, it moves away from him and he
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thinks an animal is trying to avoid him
and he'll chase after it with great
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vigour.
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We've got Josh here just to help us out
because Naga is very keen in the
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afternoons.
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We've already put a few smells around
his enclosure, a few blood smells to get
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him keen, to get him alert. In the wild,
these animals would pick up on a smell
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and they may walk 2, 4, 12, 24 hours to
go and find where that smell is
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originated from. So that's what we're
trying to recreate here. We sprinkle the
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smell around, we give him a bit of time
to smell that, get alert, where's that
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item of food, before we actually
introduce the food item to him.
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I don't really trust him there.
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He definitely knows something's going
on.
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That's why we have to have two people in
here.
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There's a bit of a safety for me.
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This is a big enriching feed for him. He
hasn't had a feed like this for a
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couple of months.
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Yeah, a little bit more for me, mate.
Yep.
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Oh, if you can just release the tension
a bit. This system is quite easy. It's
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just two bolts that go in.
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And we're going to hang the food off
this wire.
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It'll hang down here.
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and me and Josh will be able to pull it
from one side of the enclosure to the
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other while Naga is chasing it.
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I absolutely love feeding Naga these big
carcass feeds because it gives him the
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opportunity to display all of those
natural behaviours.
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Yep, that's great.
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The table is set.
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Do you want to pull on that?
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Yep, yeah, that's pretty good.
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Now it's time for Naga's main course.
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Good to go. Let's do it.
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On her recent vet rounds, Frances
visited giraffe Keto and her calf Ebo to
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examine some black marks that keepers
noticed on their ears.
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Especially the left, they seem to be
getting a little bit more prominent.
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There might be a couple of new lesions
sort of on the top of the back of that
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ear. Yep.
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We know there is definitely a problem
there.
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Evo's is presenting slightly different
to his mother's Keto's.
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Keto's seems to be a little bit more
raised and lumpy. His seems to come out
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like little black dots. It's almost like
he's got black chicken pox on his ears.
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To make her diagnosis, Frances needs
samples for the lab.
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Jimmy's going to work out a
conditioning, so the giraffe allowing
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their ears voluntarily.
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And then what we're going to do is
rather than having to do anything that
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We're going to try with a piece of
sticky tape that Jimmy can just touch
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the ear. That doesn't hurt at all, but
when it comes off, it's going to take
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superficial layers of the skin and
hopefully give us a decent sample.
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Training starts today, and Keeper Jimmy
has fine -tuned his strategy.
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At the moment, all I need these animals
to do is to be comfortable with my hand
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and the sticky tape.
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And then my theory, I mean, it's all
good in theory, will be just to hold
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on their ear. They should just put their
ear against.
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I'll pull it off. I'll be able to put it
on a dish, send it to the vets. They'll
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be able to go and do their magic.
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Because giraffes are instinctively
flighty animals... I'll do keto, you can
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keto. Sounds good.
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So, guys, please don't make any sudden
moves up there at the moment.
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Jimmy and Renee know it's one...
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Low step at a time.
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Big heart.
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Buddy. Hi. Good boy.
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Good boy.
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Hey. You all right, sweetie?
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Hey.
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Hey, buddy.
421
00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:35,130
That's all right. You're all right,
buddy.
422
00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:39,890
Ebo was very, very nervous at first of
the sticky tape. He's still building up
423
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:40,890
his confidence.
424
00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:43,110
Ebo's still drinking milk from Mum.
425
00:27:43,330 --> 00:27:46,670
So training him is a lot harder than it
would be training another animal.
426
00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:48,490
Is he feeding at all? No.
427
00:27:50,190 --> 00:27:54,830
When an animal can still leave you and
go and get food from somewhere else,
428
00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:56,550
less likely to want to be involved in
the training.
429
00:27:56,810 --> 00:28:00,030
Ebo goes, the high -value stuff's coming
from Mum's milk. I'm going to go and
430
00:28:00,030 --> 00:28:01,030
have a drink when I need it.
431
00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:03,190
You can lead a horse to water, Ren.
Exactly.
432
00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:08,610
With Ivo today, I wasn't as successful
as I wanted. I didn't get a sample, but
433
00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:09,850
that wasn't the goal of today.
434
00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:14,270
Today's goal is a conditioning goal, so
I just really wanted him to get used to
435
00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:16,550
the sticky tape and my hand being in the
bottle.
436
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:18,310
Ivo, darling, good boy.
437
00:28:19,390 --> 00:28:20,390
Come, Mum.
438
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:21,950
We'll make over here.
439
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:26,370
But Keto that Renee was working with was
coming leaps and bounds.
440
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:27,710
Hey, sweetheart.
441
00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:29,770
Hi.
442
00:28:37,230 --> 00:28:38,930
She's letting me touch her on her
muzzle.
443
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:42,470
That's a girl. Good girl.
444
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:49,010
Keto, having hard veg, she's more likely
to do what we ask her to do because all
445
00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:53,190
the good reinforcement and all the high
-value stuff is coming from us. But I'd
446
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:56,270
like to say today Renee had the easy
giraffe and I had the hard giraffe.
447
00:28:56,470 --> 00:29:00,770
But at the end of the day, we got where
we wanted to and today's plan was just
448
00:29:00,770 --> 00:29:02,130
to get them used to the tape.
449
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:06,410
Training animals takes time and
patience.
450
00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:09,420
So yeah, if we can get them to this
stage, we'll be right.
451
00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:14,980
And with Kido and Ibo's ears not getting
any worse, the team is happy to wait
452
00:29:14,980 --> 00:29:15,980
for the sample.
453
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,440
For us, the worst thing to do would be
to rush the training. And the vets would
454
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,060
agree, the slower we take the process,
the more rock solid the behaviour is
455
00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:26,100
going to be. Whereas if I'm like, oh, I
really need to get this done, and you
456
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:28,660
click, click, bang, bang, bang, I'm
going to lose that animal, he's never
457
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:29,660
to want to come near me again.
458
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:34,400
So the slower we make the process, the
better his future and the end result is
459
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,400
going to be.
460
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:37,300
Good boy. Here.
461
00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:43,920
Slow and steady definitely wins the
race. That's pretty. That's a girl.
462
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,600
It's the mantra that's embraced right
across Taronga where animal welfare
463
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,600
comes first.
464
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,420
One of a zookeeper's most rewarding job
is caring for new babies.
465
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,160
So Ash, we're just going to quickly go
in and see if we can lure mum out with a
466
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240
little bit of food and if the joeys are
in a good spot, which I think they might
467
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,240
be.
468
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,220
We'll just have a real quick look, see
what we've got. It's about time that we
469
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:15,980
need to find out if we've got boys or
girls today.
470
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,420
Keeper Rachel and trainee Ash are
checking up on the latest addition to
471
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:23,620
vital Tassie devil breeding program.
472
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,020
Our Tasmanian devil breeding facility
was purpose -built for us about 10 years
473
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:33,900
ago. In that time, we've managed to
produce almost close to 40 devil joeys,
474
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:34,900
which is pretty spectacular.
475
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,980
If you want to be on the slide, just
pull it open. I'm going to lure it out,
476
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:44,300
as soon as Mum's out, if you wouldn't
mind just dropping that slide back down
477
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,300
again, that'd be great.
478
00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:46,420
Yep.
479
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Good girl.
480
00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:53,700
So while she's occupied, we're just
going to quickly go in, have a check of
481
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,700
joeys.
482
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Keepers need to know the sex of the
devils at the zoo.
483
00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:04,760
And today is the very first chance to
see the makeup of the latest litter. So
484
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,100
this is the first time they've been
picked up. Now, Ash, when you pick them
485
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,860
they're only little, so they're going to
be a bit squirmy than an adult.
486
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,560
There they are. Hi.
487
00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:18,210
So what we'll do is we'll just use the
bag to cover their head, just like you
488
00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:19,210
with an adult.
489
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:20,350
Oh, my gosh.
490
00:31:24,550 --> 00:31:25,550
Come on.
491
00:31:27,290 --> 00:31:28,790
Position. There we go. Here's one.
492
00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:31,930
Come on, little one.
493
00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:32,950
Oh, my gosh.
494
00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:37,790
Even at this age, these Joey Devils
could easily take a finger.
495
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:44,060
So keepers must have their hands as far
away from those powerful jaws as they
496
00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:45,060
can.
497
00:31:45,780 --> 00:31:52,380
So we've got one little boy.
498
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:55,580
That's so cute.
499
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,000
Great. I'm going to pop this one back.
Ash, do you want to do the next one?
500
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,200
Yep.
501
00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:02,680
Sorry, you guys.
502
00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:08,260
You might want to come in on my left.
Yeah.
503
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:09,820
Come on.
504
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,559
Well done.
505
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Excellent.
506
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:15,740
So, nice little male.
507
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,520
He looks good.
508
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,580
He's in great shape.
509
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:27,240
We try and keep them as wild as
possible, which means that we're very
510
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,420
-off, so when we do have to go in and
handle them for health checks or any
511
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:32,420
of medical procedures.
512
00:32:32,860 --> 00:32:36,000
They're usually quite feisty with us,
but I think that's a sign of a good and
513
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
healthy animal.
514
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:38,900
I'll get rid of the bag.
515
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440
So this one here is a little female.
516
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,460
She looks great. She looks amazing.
517
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,060
She's got a lot of chew to be on her.
518
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,520
So she'd be about seven or eight months
now, and she's an amazing nick. Great
519
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,520
body condition.
520
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:01,820
Nice and feisty.
521
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,600
I might pop a box.
522
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,540
There we go. So we might leave it at
that.
523
00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:12,900
Let mum come back and leave them go
about their business.
524
00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:19,460
While these joeys represent the future
for a species under threat, for now,
525
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,900
they're just a bunch of kids all
competing for mum.
526
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:24,510
time and attention.
527
00:33:25,010 --> 00:33:29,110
These guys are getting a little big for
it now, but when devils are babies, they
528
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:32,810
like to climb around a mum's back, so
all three of them right now are trying
529
00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:37,630
get on and hang on to her, and they're
all fighting to be able to get that lift
530
00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:38,630
and that ride around.
531
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:44,750
I personally, I feel very proud to be
part of this program.
532
00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:48,510
It's not often that people get to say
they've contributed to something so
533
00:33:48,510 --> 00:33:49,510
significant.
534
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
specifically for such an iconic animal
like our Tassie Devil.
535
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:03,540
Keeper James has been given the job of
caring for the newly introduced fish at
536
00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:05,040
Taronga's wildlife retreat.
537
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,820
And that includes releasing four
Australian eels into the outdoor ponds.
538
00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:15,560
But that's easier said than done.
539
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,179
It just involves a bit of...
540
00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:21,550
Catching and a bit of handling and we'll
get them out to their brand new home
541
00:34:21,550 --> 00:34:22,550
very, very soon.
542
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:28,409
The term slippery as an eel clearly
exists for a reason.
543
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:34,590
They're really, really slimy. They're
covered in that protective slime
544
00:34:35,739 --> 00:34:38,900
It makes it impossible to get a good
grip on them. You're trying to predict
545
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,400
movements they're going to do, and
because they are so flexible, they can
546
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,300
on a dime, so it makes it really hard to
predict where they're going to go next,
547
00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:49,179
and that's really what I'm trying to do
when I'm bringing the net in. It's not
548
00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:52,360
trying to chase them, but almost trying
to get them to go into the net
549
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,360
themselves.
550
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:58,280
After a fair bit of coaxing, finally
some success.
551
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480
So this is one of our freshwater eels.
552
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,340
And that slime coating, you can just
feel it even through the net.
553
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,780
You can see that they've got their fins
just left and right there and just
554
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:13,680
before that they've got a set of gills
and then they do breathe oxygen through
555
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,220
their mouth as well when they are out on
land.
556
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,940
And its brand new home is calling.
557
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,100
Doesn't want to go yet.
558
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:33,750
Off you go.
559
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:38,170
As you can see, it head off into the
water. It's looking for a dark place to
560
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:41,870
hide, so immediately they want to find
somewhere that they feel safe and secure
561
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:42,870
in the pool.
562
00:35:43,150 --> 00:35:47,330
Once they do find a place to settle in,
as the sun goes down tonight, that's
563
00:35:47,330 --> 00:35:50,770
when they'll really start to explore and
to find where their food can be found.
564
00:35:52,290 --> 00:35:58,770
With the first eel comfortably cruising
the retreat pond, all James has to do
565
00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:01,610
now is repeat this frustrating process.
566
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Three more times.
567
00:36:09,580 --> 00:36:15,000
Today is Naga's feed day, and it's no
ordinary snack.
568
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,300
Just watch your fingers, Matt.
569
00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:22,360
We're about to do an enriching carcass
feed for Naga, which is something we
570
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,060
don't do very often. It's been a couple
of months since he's had his last
571
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:29,120
enriching carcass feed. And we're going
to hang this meat carcass off this wire,
572
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,980
pull it from one side of the enclosure
to the other to initiate a chasing
573
00:36:32,980 --> 00:36:34,740
predatory response from Naga.
574
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:38,550
The entire weight of this piece of
carcass would be around three and a half
575
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:43,450
kilos. So this is a decent meal for
Naga, but he could definitely eat more.
576
00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:47,050
this is a good enriching feed. He's
going to have to really work hard to get
577
00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:51,090
meat off this. And that's the entire
point of it. Good to go. Let's do it.
578
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:54,990
Imitating nature helps to keep Naga's
instinct sharp.
579
00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:57,790
And Naga is ready.
580
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,540
He looks very alert this morning. We've
already just checked him. And as soon as
581
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:06,500
I pop my head over the door, he's turned
straight onto me. Eyes are focused on
582
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:07,980
me. Big pupil. He's hungry.
583
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,860
So what I'm hoping, mate, when he gets
in there, I'm going to keep him on the
584
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:12,860
carcass.
585
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,780
Whilst you get in and get into position,
then you can pull it over to your side
586
00:37:16,780 --> 00:37:19,700
and then I can make my way in. Okay,
cool. Cool, let's put it in.
587
00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:27,760
Naga, he's a very powerful animal. He's
a very, very big lizard and he can do a
588
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,700
lot of damage to us. So it's got to be
in our mind at all times that he could
589
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:34,220
inflict harm upon us. I'm just going to
keep him here for a sec.
590
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:38,780
Yep. So that's why me and Stu, we're
going to communicate to each other as
591
00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:39,399
we can.
592
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,740
So we're going to make sure that none of
us are ever put in a situation where
593
00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:43,740
we're in danger.
594
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,960
I'm there to protect Josh because I know
his mum and she'd be very upset if
595
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,960
anything happened to him.
596
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,400
It's true.
597
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:58,000
Yep, so he's locked onto it now. You can
see that he's grabbed onto it, and he's
598
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,000
going to start to use a sideways head
movement to saw that meat off the bone.
599
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,780
I'm going to let him take it where he
wants. Take it where he wants? Yep.
600
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:10,820
Do you want to pull it away from him?
Yep. Yep.
601
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,400
Yes. Yes, excellent.
602
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,220
I'm going to come in, Josh. All right,
mate, you're all good.
603
00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:24,000
And then I might bring him back over.
Yep, sounds good. Because he's ripping
604
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,320
through it. He's tearing it.
605
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:28,560
When he gets that bit off, I'll bring
him back over.
606
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,460
There you go. You're good.
607
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:38,500
Let's make him run a bit more. All
right. Do we want to scoot him over to
608
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,140
first and then scoot him back over?
Okay. If I get a lengthy run.
609
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,840
All right, good.
610
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Yeah.
611
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,360
That's great.
612
00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:52,250
That's perfect.
613
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:57,690
He's 50 kilo lizard, so I'm fighting
against him constantly to hold that in
614
00:38:57,690 --> 00:39:01,170
place, and it's also to keep the carcass
off the ground as well.
615
00:39:01,450 --> 00:39:02,910
But this is what he's built for.
616
00:39:03,130 --> 00:39:07,330
He's built to take down large mammals
and to literally tear them to pieces.
617
00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:12,690
So it might sound a bit morbid, but this
is actually one of my favourite days
618
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:14,130
seeing these type of feeds.
619
00:39:15,110 --> 00:39:17,710
We're going to have to watch that he
doesn't start trying to swallow that
620
00:39:17,710 --> 00:39:18,629
of spine, man.
621
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:19,630
Yep, yep.
622
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:24,880
So the feed we're giving Naga today,
this carcass feed, we're not going to
623
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,420
him another item of food for at least
two weeks.
624
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:31,160
And I'd probably say the next two feeds
I give him are going to be a lot less
625
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,160
substantial to this.
626
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:39,020
Naga's really starting to slow down,
which is an indication to me and Josh
627
00:39:39,020 --> 00:39:42,760
he's really starting to fill up. And
he's literally starting to get tired.
628
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,300
just exerted a lot of energy eating this
food.
629
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,740
Look at his stomach there.
630
00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:51,030
Starting to descend at the bottom,
starting to hang a little bit low.
631
00:39:51,330 --> 00:39:53,950
I don't think he's going to go on this
for much longer. We'll take it out of
632
00:39:53,950 --> 00:39:54,729
here pretty soon.
633
00:39:54,730 --> 00:39:59,790
With the carcass picked clean, all
that's left to do now is to break the
634
00:39:59,790 --> 00:40:02,110
Naga that dinner is over.
635
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:06,510
That's that touching him on the head.
We're indicated to him, no more food.
636
00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:09,630
OK, we can leave.
637
00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:11,910
I'll go first, you've got the board.
Yep.
638
00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:19,610
It was an absolutely fantastic watching
Naga destroy that piece of meat. And I
639
00:40:19,610 --> 00:40:24,130
was lucky enough to actually find a
really decent -sized tooth from him.
640
00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:28,730
often or not snap a couple of teeth off.
It just goes to show that 60 of those
641
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:31,590
little teeth can make light work of a
big chunk of meat.
642
00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:42,430
It's been a few weeks since James
released the eels into the wildlife
643
00:40:42,430 --> 00:40:43,870
Outdoor Pond.
644
00:40:44,410 --> 00:40:47,950
And they've settled in really, really
well, and to have them conditioned to
645
00:40:47,950 --> 00:40:51,370
into the shallows like this and be
comfortable around people, this soon
646
00:40:51,370 --> 00:40:53,610
being released back to the pool, is
fabulous.
647
00:40:54,070 --> 00:40:58,510
They're so relaxed that they're already
responding to basic training.
648
00:40:58,930 --> 00:41:02,350
I've just given the eels the cue by
tapping this rock, and that's to tell
649
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that food has just arrived in the pool,
and they'll be on their way up very,
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very shortly to dine down on their fresh
tucker of mealworms and earthworms.
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Here comes one.
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There's another on the way too.
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As you can see as they come up, they are
a bit cautious, so what we're hoping to
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see is them coming up into the shallows.
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So I'm conditioning the eels so that
guests in the future will be able to sit
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the rocks just as I am, that people not
only observe the eels but grow an
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appreciation for them as I do.
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Adding eels to Taronga's collection has
taken a lot of time and planning.
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The eel move has gone really well. I
think they're really settled here at
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wildlife retreat at Taronga, and they're
going to be here for a long time to
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come, educating people on how unique and
special eels are.
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But James is such a fan, he'd do it all
again in a heartbeat.
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I think they're beautiful. I think
they're really special, these eels, and
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really hope people see that as well.
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Over at the Tassie Devil exhibit,
Krieger and Regina are also settling in
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nicely. There he is, the shy little boy,
Krieger. That's Krieger over there. But
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this is great to see. It's really
important. Krieger and Regina, they're
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around and it's a relief to see them out
and being confident. They're not really
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hiding completely.
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And while the thought of new joeys is
what's driving everyone,
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Tony is just as happy to spend some time
with the oldest devil in the group.
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Gunner, whose feed time is actually
pretty similar to Naga's. Hey Gunner,
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you going buddy?
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Going to have a feed?
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Hey?
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Up here.
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It's a boy.
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Do some work.
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The Tassie Devil Tug of War, that's what
I call it anyway, it's like a form of
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enrichment. In the wild, devils are very
solitary, but they do come together to
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fight over food and they can be really
rowdy, really aggressive.
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But they're also a lot of cooperation.
They help each other pull and tug and
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food apart.
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I'm mimicking that. I'm making him work
for his food. He's having to use his
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jaws. He's having to get aggressive with
me and a bit annoyed at me, pull and
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tug and rip at the food. Come on,
Gunnar, you can do it.
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Give us a tug.
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So it's a way of getting him to use his
brain.
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getting to use his energy, use his jaws,
and display those natural behaviors,
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stopping from getting bored.
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So we do it at different times as well.
We don't do it every day.
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Okay, go that way. Go on.
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Give me a fight.
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He has an incredible strength across his
chest, in his jaw, very broad skull.
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So they're very powerful. I'm told the
strength of an average adult human when
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they're fully grown and they're doing
this tug of war. And today I think I'm
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more tired than he is.
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Good boy.
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In addition to his breeding successes,
over the years Gunner has given the
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public real insight into the secret life
of the Tasmanian devil.
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And for Tony, Gunner has reinforced his
love for this threatened yet magnificent
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species. Have a look at that. He's doing
what I call chipmunking, which is when
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they clean themselves up, which I think
is absolutely adorable.
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This is why I can't see them as an ugly,
horrible animal. I mean, look how
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adorable that is. You could just go in
there and give them a big cuddle,
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couldn't you?
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