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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,754 --> 00:00:18,994 WOMAN: Notorious Postcard Bandit has launched a bid for freedom, 2 00:00:19,074 --> 00:00:20,634 arguing he's served his time 3 00:00:20,714 --> 00:00:23,514 and murderers are getting lighter sentences. 4 00:00:23,594 --> 00:00:25,354 A bit nervous today. 5 00:00:25,434 --> 00:00:26,474 Ready? 6 00:00:27,634 --> 00:00:28,754 Yep. Alright. 7 00:00:28,834 --> 00:00:30,114 Should we go? Yep. 8 00:00:30,194 --> 00:00:33,234 Now, the Postcard Bandit wants to be free, 9 00:00:33,314 --> 00:00:35,834 launching an appeal against his extraordinary 10 00:00:35,914 --> 00:00:37,874 47-year prison term. 11 00:00:39,194 --> 00:00:40,234 The anxiety's up there. 12 00:00:41,994 --> 00:00:44,994 (THEME MUSIC) 13 00:00:56,554 --> 00:00:59,554 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 14 00:01:08,194 --> 00:01:10,834 I was a young police reporter 15 00:01:10,914 --> 00:01:14,474 trying to find my next big story, 16 00:01:14,554 --> 00:01:16,434 and I stumbled across 17 00:01:16,514 --> 00:01:17,914 the story of Brenden Abbott. 18 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:19,274 It's just like talking to another cop 19 00:01:19,354 --> 00:01:20,314 when you interview him. 20 00:01:20,394 --> 00:01:23,154 The first big feature I did on Brenden Abbott 21 00:01:23,234 --> 00:01:24,954 and in colour, it's even more striking. 22 00:01:25,034 --> 00:01:26,114 Yeah. 23 00:01:27,154 --> 00:01:28,274 In 1989, 24 00:01:28,354 --> 00:01:31,474 he was doing 16 years at Fremantle Prison 25 00:01:31,554 --> 00:01:34,034 for the Belmont robbery. 26 00:01:34,114 --> 00:01:35,674 Don't want anyone dead today, do we? 27 00:01:35,754 --> 00:01:37,074 Get on the ground. 28 00:01:37,154 --> 00:01:39,194 And the Fremantle prison riot. 29 00:01:39,274 --> 00:01:43,274 135 inmates held five prison officers hostage. 30 00:01:43,354 --> 00:01:44,874 He had a lot of years ahead of him 31 00:01:44,954 --> 00:01:47,994 and he decided that he really didn't want to do that. 32 00:01:48,074 --> 00:01:51,794 So, he managed to get over the wall with that prison and get out. 33 00:01:51,874 --> 00:01:53,874 Brenden would've thought that was his right 34 00:01:53,954 --> 00:01:55,754 and his duty to escape. 35 00:01:57,714 --> 00:02:01,874 After the escape, Abbott and Reynolds fled WA. 36 00:02:04,394 --> 00:02:07,674 We believed that Abbott had gone over east 37 00:02:07,754 --> 00:02:10,154 crossed the border and quite often, 38 00:02:10,234 --> 00:02:13,194 it ceases then to be our problem and that's how we treat it. 39 00:02:13,274 --> 00:02:16,274 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 40 00:02:21,154 --> 00:02:26,114 I first became aware of Brenden Abbott after he escaped, 41 00:02:26,194 --> 00:02:28,754 when I was attached to what was known then 42 00:02:28,834 --> 00:02:30,874 as the Special Crime Squad 43 00:02:30,954 --> 00:02:33,714 in the South Australian police. 44 00:02:33,794 --> 00:02:36,554 To catch a crook, you need to think like a crook, 45 00:02:36,634 --> 00:02:39,994 and that often gives you a bit of an avenue 46 00:02:40,074 --> 00:02:43,114 to follow up as far as investigation's concerned. 47 00:02:45,754 --> 00:02:48,114 We knew he was very transient and probably flying... 48 00:02:48,194 --> 00:02:49,354 (TRAIN HOOTS) 49 00:02:49,434 --> 00:02:51,234 ..possibly using trains or whatever. 50 00:02:52,394 --> 00:02:55,354 In those 5.5, six years I was on the run, 51 00:02:55,434 --> 00:02:57,194 basically, I was just on a holiday. 52 00:02:57,274 --> 00:03:00,394 I'll be in a nice four or five-star hotel 53 00:03:00,474 --> 00:03:02,154 and the following week I'm laying in the swag 54 00:03:02,234 --> 00:03:03,794 in the middle of the outback. 55 00:03:03,874 --> 00:03:05,594 Be up at Cape York fishing one week, 56 00:03:05,674 --> 00:03:08,234 and then I'm down in Thredbo skiing the next. 57 00:03:08,314 --> 00:03:10,034 I even went to Thailand for a holiday 58 00:03:10,114 --> 00:03:11,514 because I needed a bit of R and R, 59 00:03:11,594 --> 00:03:13,514 the stress was killing me, you know. 60 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:15,354 I was using a false passport. 61 00:03:15,434 --> 00:03:16,474 When I say a false passport, 62 00:03:16,554 --> 00:03:17,834 it was actually someone legit 63 00:03:17,914 --> 00:03:21,954 and I just took up their identity to obtain the passport. 64 00:03:22,034 --> 00:03:24,274 I probably should have gone to Europe, 65 00:03:24,354 --> 00:03:26,914 I should have gone and not come back. 66 00:03:26,994 --> 00:03:29,594 With Brenden living the high life while he was on the run, 67 00:03:29,674 --> 00:03:30,994 it certainly became frustrating. 68 00:03:31,074 --> 00:03:33,354 He was enjoying being on the run 69 00:03:33,434 --> 00:03:35,194 and keeping one over the coppers. 70 00:03:35,274 --> 00:03:36,634 He was a cheeky fucker. 71 00:03:36,714 --> 00:03:38,714 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 72 00:03:41,994 --> 00:03:42,994 When I did fly around 73 00:03:43,074 --> 00:03:44,714 I'd be in first class or business class, 74 00:03:44,794 --> 00:03:47,434 you know, you dress the part, wear a suit, tie, carry a briefcase 75 00:03:47,514 --> 00:03:49,634 and everything, and nobody questions you. 76 00:03:49,714 --> 00:03:51,554 Nobody looks twice at you. 77 00:03:51,634 --> 00:03:53,754 The money wasn't really an obstacle. 78 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:56,754 You know, I mean if I ran out of money I'd just go rob a bank. 79 00:03:56,834 --> 00:03:58,594 (CHUCKLES) 80 00:03:58,674 --> 00:04:01,194 The security camera at Westpac snapped this shot 81 00:04:01,274 --> 00:04:03,354 during an armed hold-up on Friday. 82 00:04:03,434 --> 00:04:04,994 Brenden Abbott has thought to have committed 83 00:04:05,074 --> 00:04:07,874 at least 37 robberies in five states. 84 00:04:07,954 --> 00:04:10,114 While he's been credited with some that he may not have done, 85 00:04:10,194 --> 00:04:11,554 I think there's definitely others out there 86 00:04:11,634 --> 00:04:13,154 that he hasn't been credited with. 87 00:04:13,234 --> 00:04:14,674 Abbott had gone to ground. 88 00:04:14,754 --> 00:04:17,794 The only time they had any idea where he was, 89 00:04:17,874 --> 00:04:20,674 was when a major bank robbery would be committed, 90 00:04:20,754 --> 00:04:22,314 and even then they couldn't be sure it was him 91 00:04:22,394 --> 00:04:24,874 because obviously, there'd be disguises involved. 92 00:04:24,954 --> 00:04:27,154 Police believe that reports on radio 93 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:30,514 and television may be inspiring copycats. 94 00:04:30,594 --> 00:04:34,314 The police in South Australia at best theorise, 95 00:04:34,394 --> 00:04:36,154 but at that stage, 96 00:04:36,234 --> 00:04:37,914 I dunno that I had really 97 00:04:37,994 --> 00:04:40,914 particularly any information on where he was operating. 98 00:04:40,994 --> 00:04:41,994 During that time, 99 00:04:42,074 --> 00:04:45,274 there were robberies being attributed in South Australia 100 00:04:45,354 --> 00:04:47,874 and Queensland and possibly New South Wales 101 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:51,274 where the same method of operation was being used. 102 00:04:51,354 --> 00:04:52,354 The same MO. 103 00:04:52,434 --> 00:04:53,754 (RADIO CHATTER) 104 00:04:53,834 --> 00:04:55,394 His MO, they believed 105 00:04:55,474 --> 00:04:58,954 involved dropping from the ceiling of banks, 106 00:04:59,034 --> 00:04:59,994 not in every case, 107 00:05:00,074 --> 00:05:02,394 but that became a strong element of his MO, 108 00:05:02,474 --> 00:05:03,954 the Drop In Bandit. 109 00:05:04,034 --> 00:05:06,954 It was a brazen hold-up in the heart of retail Adelaide. 110 00:05:08,754 --> 00:05:09,754 It seemed to us 111 00:05:09,834 --> 00:05:11,394 that he was zipping down to South Australia 112 00:05:11,474 --> 00:05:13,834 to get away, do the jobs there, 113 00:05:13,914 --> 00:05:16,114 and then go somewhere else where it was quiet, 114 00:05:16,194 --> 00:05:18,554 try and keep us on our toes. 115 00:05:18,634 --> 00:05:22,234 It didn't surprise me that Abbott kept on doing bank hold-ups. 116 00:05:22,314 --> 00:05:23,314 He probably thought, 117 00:05:23,394 --> 00:05:25,794 "Well, people don't know me in South Australia. 118 00:05:25,874 --> 00:05:28,234 "It's easy to fly in, fly out." 119 00:05:28,314 --> 00:05:32,274 I think they were slowly starting to put a picture together 120 00:05:32,354 --> 00:05:35,314 that Brenden Abbott was behind it 121 00:05:35,394 --> 00:05:38,274 and that he was commuting between the states. 122 00:05:38,354 --> 00:05:40,274 The way I thought about it was that 123 00:05:40,354 --> 00:05:42,874 Brenden Abbott needs to be brought to justice. 124 00:05:47,394 --> 00:05:48,794 Brenden James Abbott. 125 00:05:48,874 --> 00:05:50,674 The notorious Postcard Bandit. 126 00:05:50,754 --> 00:05:51,714 Postcard Bandit. 127 00:05:51,794 --> 00:05:53,194 Postcard Bandit, Brenden Abbott. 128 00:05:53,274 --> 00:05:55,154 It's the stuff that myths are made of. 129 00:05:55,234 --> 00:05:57,874 It's funny with Australians, they love a larrikin. 130 00:05:57,954 --> 00:05:59,274 The latter-day bush ranger... 131 00:05:59,354 --> 00:06:02,074 Who makes Ned Kelly look like a petty thief. 132 00:06:02,154 --> 00:06:04,754 He's begun to earn folk hero status. 133 00:06:04,834 --> 00:06:07,514 We don't like banks. Banks are ripping everybody off. 134 00:06:07,594 --> 00:06:10,474 Now, we've got someone who's taken their money away from them, 135 00:06:10,554 --> 00:06:13,914 being a Robin Hood in some people's minds 136 00:06:13,994 --> 00:06:16,034 and getting away with it 137 00:06:16,114 --> 00:06:18,594 and cheekily sending postcards to the coppers say, 138 00:06:18,674 --> 00:06:20,074 "Catch me if you can." 139 00:06:20,154 --> 00:06:21,954 Holiday-snapped mail to police. 140 00:06:22,034 --> 00:06:24,034 Often sending them postcards. 141 00:06:24,114 --> 00:06:27,154 With photos taken during his life on the run. 142 00:06:27,234 --> 00:06:29,834 It was absolutely irresistible for the media. 143 00:06:29,914 --> 00:06:31,754 How could you not run with the story? 144 00:06:31,834 --> 00:06:34,514 The bank robber taunting police while he's on the run. 145 00:06:35,754 --> 00:06:37,474 It was a fantastic yarn for the media, 146 00:06:37,554 --> 00:06:38,914 it was irresistible. 147 00:06:38,994 --> 00:06:41,314 Cool, cunning and a likeable bloke. 148 00:06:41,394 --> 00:06:43,474 Brenden Abbott was suddenly a larrikin. 149 00:06:43,554 --> 00:06:46,114 He was a cheeky bugger sending postcards to the coppers 150 00:06:46,194 --> 00:06:48,274 and getting away with it. 151 00:06:48,354 --> 00:06:50,554 He's laughing at you, isn't he? 152 00:06:50,634 --> 00:06:51,594 I would think so. 153 00:06:51,674 --> 00:06:54,194 He was taunting the police 154 00:06:54,274 --> 00:06:56,314 with these little postcards 155 00:06:56,394 --> 00:06:59,314 all around the country, but he wasn't. 156 00:06:59,394 --> 00:07:03,314 The Postcard Bandit was really a myth 157 00:07:03,394 --> 00:07:05,714 and resulted from some rolls of film 158 00:07:05,794 --> 00:07:07,394 found in the back of a car 159 00:07:07,474 --> 00:07:11,954 that Abbott and Reynolds had used to escape from police. 160 00:07:18,714 --> 00:07:21,074 They were being pursued by a 79 Division car 161 00:07:21,154 --> 00:07:23,834 and shots were fired at the coppers involved. 162 00:07:44,514 --> 00:07:48,434 That chase is where the Postcard Bandit myth comes from. 163 00:07:48,514 --> 00:07:50,794 The media have always said that those photographs were sent to us. 164 00:07:50,874 --> 00:07:51,834 They weren't. 165 00:07:51,914 --> 00:07:54,234 They were located in the stolen vehicle, 166 00:07:54,314 --> 00:07:56,314 so, there was no... 167 00:07:56,394 --> 00:07:58,234 There was no indication they were meant for us. 168 00:07:59,154 --> 00:08:02,554 The police had found one of those disposable cameras 169 00:08:02,634 --> 00:08:04,594 in the back of the car 170 00:08:04,674 --> 00:08:07,274 and later went on to develop the film 171 00:08:07,354 --> 00:08:09,754 and there was Reynolds standing outside 172 00:08:09,834 --> 00:08:12,554 the Dwellingup Police Station. 173 00:08:12,634 --> 00:08:17,194 That famous photo wasn't Abbott, it was Reynolds. 174 00:08:17,274 --> 00:08:19,074 It's taken by Abbott. 175 00:08:19,154 --> 00:08:20,634 The media took it that 176 00:08:20,714 --> 00:08:24,474 this was a postcard and let's run with it. 177 00:08:24,554 --> 00:08:27,474 And Abbott was always in the public eye 178 00:08:27,554 --> 00:08:30,634 while he was on the run because of the so-called 'postcard'. 179 00:08:44,834 --> 00:08:45,834 It was good for the media. 180 00:08:45,914 --> 00:08:47,034 They were getting the headline 181 00:08:47,114 --> 00:08:48,714 and we were getting the information back. 182 00:09:09,034 --> 00:09:10,634 The public have a view of Brenden Abbott 183 00:09:10,714 --> 00:09:13,794 as this rollicking, larrikin, 184 00:09:13,874 --> 00:09:17,514 bank robber who kept the coppers at bay, 185 00:09:17,594 --> 00:09:18,954 was always one step ahead. 186 00:09:19,034 --> 00:09:22,274 The reality is he's-he's a criminal 187 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:27,354 that ran riot for a total of about seven years 188 00:09:27,434 --> 00:09:29,394 and then spent most of his life in jail. 189 00:09:29,474 --> 00:09:32,474 (TENSE MUSIC) 190 00:09:35,194 --> 00:09:36,514 When I was younger, 191 00:09:36,594 --> 00:09:37,754 there'd be police parked in the streets, 192 00:09:37,834 --> 00:09:38,994 obviously watching the house. 193 00:09:40,314 --> 00:09:41,994 He'd take the risk of coming around. 194 00:09:42,074 --> 00:09:43,434 He'd just come through the back of the house 195 00:09:43,514 --> 00:09:44,514 and guess he'd come through 196 00:09:44,594 --> 00:09:46,114 the back of another property or stuff. 197 00:09:46,194 --> 00:09:48,514 He'd come to the house and mum said he'd just kind of keep it quiet, 198 00:09:48,594 --> 00:09:50,034 'cause obviously they'd be listening. 199 00:09:51,074 --> 00:09:52,274 It's a risky thing on his behalf, 200 00:09:52,354 --> 00:09:53,674 like, knowing the police that are watching too. 201 00:09:53,754 --> 00:09:55,434 So, he's got some balls to be doing that 202 00:09:55,514 --> 00:09:57,594 because I sure as hell wouldn't be doing it that way. 203 00:09:59,674 --> 00:10:01,914 I remember there was one year for Christmas 204 00:10:01,994 --> 00:10:04,034 we got this box delivered to the house, 205 00:10:04,114 --> 00:10:05,794 had Nintendo 64 on it, 206 00:10:05,874 --> 00:10:09,274 all the controllers and pretty much every single game you could buy. 207 00:10:09,354 --> 00:10:11,674 So, this is the original Nintendo 208 00:10:11,754 --> 00:10:13,674 that Dad had bought me all those years ago, 209 00:10:13,754 --> 00:10:14,754 so, I still have it. 210 00:10:14,834 --> 00:10:16,514 I still-still play it from time to time. 211 00:10:16,594 --> 00:10:17,834 I've had it all modified inside, 212 00:10:17,914 --> 00:10:19,874 so, it's got all HDMI connections and stuff now, 213 00:10:19,954 --> 00:10:23,434 so, it doesn't hurt the eyes when I play on the TV. 214 00:10:23,514 --> 00:10:24,994 At least when he does get out I can say, 215 00:10:25,074 --> 00:10:26,954 "Well, here, you can enjoy the console 216 00:10:27,034 --> 00:10:28,154 "that you bought me all those years ago. 217 00:10:28,234 --> 00:10:29,714 "Just kept it for you, keep it warm." 218 00:10:29,794 --> 00:10:32,074 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC) 219 00:10:32,154 --> 00:10:34,114 Obviously I had my mum, 220 00:10:34,194 --> 00:10:35,554 she looked after us 221 00:10:35,634 --> 00:10:37,794 and she did good for us all, made sure we're always fed, 222 00:10:37,874 --> 00:10:39,474 had a roof over our head, all that kind of stuff too, 223 00:10:39,554 --> 00:10:41,754 so, she's raised us well. 224 00:10:41,834 --> 00:10:43,554 Whereas Dad didn't have his dad around. 225 00:10:45,154 --> 00:10:47,154 How a person was raised, 226 00:10:47,234 --> 00:10:48,794 their childhood upbringing obviously has a lot to do 227 00:10:48,874 --> 00:10:50,154 with how they are as an adult. 228 00:10:50,234 --> 00:10:52,234 Dad didn't have it good from the start. 229 00:10:52,314 --> 00:10:55,314 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC) 230 00:11:04,794 --> 00:11:07,194 I just thought we were a normal family. 231 00:11:07,274 --> 00:11:09,434 Mum, Dad, five kids. 232 00:11:11,594 --> 00:11:12,554 (BABY CRIES) 233 00:11:12,634 --> 00:11:16,234 His father Brian had no trouble putting food on the table. 234 00:11:17,354 --> 00:11:19,834 He and Thelma had married young. 235 00:11:21,754 --> 00:11:23,274 And that was more to do with the fact 236 00:11:23,354 --> 00:11:25,434 that she had fallen pregnant with my older sister, 237 00:11:27,474 --> 00:11:30,234 and so it was essentially a shotgun wedding. 238 00:11:30,314 --> 00:11:31,834 She had to get married 239 00:11:31,914 --> 00:11:34,074 and I don't think my father really 240 00:11:34,154 --> 00:11:36,954 appreciated having to be forced into a marriage 241 00:11:37,034 --> 00:11:38,114 that he didn't really want. 242 00:11:40,314 --> 00:11:43,434 As far as the kids were concerned, they had a pretty happy life. 243 00:11:43,514 --> 00:11:46,434 (DOG BARKS) 244 00:11:46,514 --> 00:11:50,074 I interviewed Thelma on several occasions 245 00:11:50,154 --> 00:11:53,114 and she told me about her relationship 246 00:11:53,194 --> 00:11:55,034 with Brian being troubled. 247 00:11:58,914 --> 00:12:01,114 Brian walked out on Thelma one day 248 00:12:01,194 --> 00:12:05,754 and she was left as a single mum with five children. 249 00:12:07,154 --> 00:12:10,834 My dad handed me some chewy 250 00:12:10,914 --> 00:12:12,434 and told me that he was leaving. 251 00:12:16,914 --> 00:12:18,714 That was the last time he spoke to me 252 00:12:18,794 --> 00:12:19,874 and walked out the door. 253 00:12:22,154 --> 00:12:23,474 When my parents separated, 254 00:12:23,554 --> 00:12:25,354 there was no such thing as a pension. 255 00:12:27,594 --> 00:12:30,274 And so my mum had to rely on food donations. 256 00:12:33,434 --> 00:12:37,714 Suddenly, it wasn't necessarily food on the table every night 257 00:12:37,794 --> 00:12:39,754 and life for those kids was pretty tough. 258 00:12:41,754 --> 00:12:42,834 They left Melbourne. 259 00:12:45,514 --> 00:12:48,834 They ended up in Tom Price, a mining town in Western Australia. 260 00:12:51,154 --> 00:12:53,434 (BOMB EXPLODES) 261 00:13:00,674 --> 00:13:03,954 Brenden was starting to get into a bit of trouble at school. 262 00:13:06,394 --> 00:13:08,354 I think after my dad left 263 00:13:08,434 --> 00:13:10,754 and Brenden's behaviour changed, 264 00:13:10,834 --> 00:13:13,554 that my mum took that as her fault. 265 00:13:13,634 --> 00:13:15,914 You know, that's because I'm not a good enough parent, 266 00:13:15,994 --> 00:13:17,634 you know, and society says that, 267 00:13:17,714 --> 00:13:20,154 you know, a single mother can't raise children. 268 00:13:24,874 --> 00:13:27,594 The big turning point in his life was 269 00:13:27,674 --> 00:13:30,514 when he was made a ward of the state 270 00:13:30,594 --> 00:13:34,234 because he had hit a girl with a bike pump. 271 00:13:35,594 --> 00:13:38,194 Now, Brenden was always of the understanding that 272 00:13:38,274 --> 00:13:39,834 the girl was the judge's daughter 273 00:13:39,914 --> 00:13:43,394 and that's why he got sent to a boy's home, 274 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:45,474 but that wasn't actually the reason. 275 00:13:48,274 --> 00:13:50,474 At the time, my mum was really struggling 276 00:13:50,554 --> 00:13:52,514 with Brenden's behaviour. 277 00:13:52,594 --> 00:13:56,234 She had actually asked the judge for him to go into a home 278 00:13:56,314 --> 00:13:57,794 because she wasn't coping. 279 00:13:59,634 --> 00:14:01,874 Before Brenden went into a home, he wasn't a thief, 280 00:14:01,954 --> 00:14:04,074 he didn't steal from anybody. 281 00:14:04,154 --> 00:14:06,034 But when he went into Hillstone, 282 00:14:06,114 --> 00:14:10,754 he was around so many children who were actually committing crimes 283 00:14:10,834 --> 00:14:12,714 and I think he learnt from that. 284 00:14:35,114 --> 00:14:38,074 I think that that changed the direction of his life. 285 00:14:39,434 --> 00:14:42,834 How he learned crime was while he was in a boy's home. 286 00:14:44,834 --> 00:14:47,834 (INTENSE MUSIC) 287 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:50,314 Brenden Abbott is seeking 288 00:14:50,394 --> 00:14:53,274 to have his sentence deemed unlawful. 289 00:14:53,354 --> 00:14:55,834 If successful, it'd mean the serial fugitive 290 00:14:55,914 --> 00:14:57,674 can walk out of prison 291 00:14:57,754 --> 00:15:01,154 free for the first time in almost 30 years. 292 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:02,834 Not proud of the stuff that he's done. 293 00:15:02,914 --> 00:15:05,234 It's like he's older now, he doesn't really... 294 00:15:05,314 --> 00:15:07,114 Like, he's not going to do something like that ever again. 295 00:15:07,194 --> 00:15:08,514 Like, the things that the lawyers have said 296 00:15:08,594 --> 00:15:09,874 and the things Dad said, 297 00:15:09,954 --> 00:15:12,674 it was looking like he was going to get released really, really soon. 298 00:15:12,754 --> 00:15:13,954 It never goes in his favour 299 00:15:14,034 --> 00:15:15,794 and he doesn't know what's going to happen. 300 00:15:15,874 --> 00:15:17,314 I can only imagine how he's feeling. 301 00:15:28,514 --> 00:15:30,434 Once it goes to the court, they just delay, delay, delay 302 00:15:30,514 --> 00:15:33,234 and now we're waiting on a decision from the judge that she's reserved 303 00:15:33,314 --> 00:15:35,634 and that could take anytime as long as she wants. 304 00:15:38,794 --> 00:15:41,034 It's just disappointing, but it's to be expected. 305 00:15:41,114 --> 00:15:43,154 We didn't come here expecting the best of everything, 306 00:15:43,234 --> 00:15:45,074 so, always expect the worst, hope for the best. 307 00:15:47,754 --> 00:15:49,074 Of course. Always hopeful. 308 00:15:49,154 --> 00:15:50,674 Yeah, just wait and see what happens, really. 309 00:15:50,754 --> 00:15:53,474 Yeah. I just try and stay in high spirits. 310 00:15:53,554 --> 00:15:55,674 So. Yeah, that's it. 311 00:15:55,754 --> 00:15:56,754 That's all I got. Thanks, guys. 312 00:15:56,834 --> 00:15:58,834 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC) 313 00:16:00,514 --> 00:16:02,954 It gets frustrating, nothing got answered today. 314 00:16:03,034 --> 00:16:04,314 Obviously the judge, 315 00:16:04,394 --> 00:16:06,314 she's not picking up what he's putting down exactly, 316 00:16:06,394 --> 00:16:09,434 so, she's reserved the decision on what she's going to do today. 317 00:16:11,114 --> 00:16:12,234 I feel really anxious 318 00:16:12,314 --> 00:16:13,714 that they're not going to release him. 319 00:16:13,794 --> 00:16:15,474 He's going to sit there for another five or six years, 320 00:16:15,554 --> 00:16:17,394 maybe longer, you know. 321 00:16:17,474 --> 00:16:21,474 I don't want that, you know, for him and I just want him out. 322 00:16:21,554 --> 00:16:24,034 Like, it feels like it's so close to him being released, 323 00:16:24,114 --> 00:16:26,354 but they're just like pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing. 324 00:16:27,274 --> 00:16:28,674 So, at the moment, we're still waiting. 325 00:16:28,754 --> 00:16:30,314 We don't know what's going to happen. 326 00:16:30,394 --> 00:16:32,394 (PENSIVE MUSIC) 327 00:16:35,034 --> 00:16:38,274 So they've adjourned it now to the 11th of August. 328 00:16:38,354 --> 00:16:39,794 So, the lawyer's not called you yet. 329 00:16:41,594 --> 00:16:42,914 They said they're going to speak with you anyway 330 00:16:42,994 --> 00:16:45,114 and just give you a bit of a debrief on what happened. 331 00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:50,434 Being in a courtroom, it's depressing. 332 00:16:50,514 --> 00:16:51,674 Yeah. It is. 333 00:16:51,754 --> 00:16:53,794 It-it just feels incredibly unfair 334 00:16:53,874 --> 00:16:59,154 that he should not be given the earliest opportunity 335 00:16:59,234 --> 00:17:00,394 to come out and spend some time 336 00:17:00,474 --> 00:17:02,034 with his... with his family, with his son. 337 00:17:02,114 --> 00:17:03,194 That's when I wanted to stand up 338 00:17:03,274 --> 00:17:05,114 and be like, "Well, you guys didn't want him here 339 00:17:05,194 --> 00:17:06,554 "and now you're fighting to keep him in longer." 340 00:17:06,634 --> 00:17:08,754 Like, do you fucking want him or don't you want him? 341 00:17:08,834 --> 00:17:09,914 Because I want him. 342 00:17:11,514 --> 00:17:14,514 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 343 00:17:22,314 --> 00:17:23,394 Abbott and Aaron, 344 00:17:23,474 --> 00:17:25,674 Raymond Reynolds sneak out of a workshop, 345 00:17:25,754 --> 00:17:29,074 climb onto a roof and leap 3m to freedom. 346 00:17:31,394 --> 00:17:33,554 He escaped from Fremantle Prison. 347 00:17:33,634 --> 00:17:36,354 Brenden had been on the run for five years. 348 00:17:36,434 --> 00:17:38,434 Some people even believed he wasn't in the country. 349 00:17:38,514 --> 00:17:41,514 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 350 00:17:46,914 --> 00:17:48,554 With Brenden living the high life 351 00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:50,674 while-while he was on the run, 352 00:17:50,754 --> 00:17:54,634 there was stories about him travelling overseas, 353 00:17:54,714 --> 00:17:56,714 a story that he was working on a pearl lugger 354 00:17:56,794 --> 00:17:59,154 out of Broome in Western Australia, 355 00:17:59,234 --> 00:18:00,874 that he had his own pilot's licence. 356 00:18:00,954 --> 00:18:02,674 It became quite frustrating. 357 00:18:02,754 --> 00:18:04,554 Where is he and where isn't he? 358 00:18:04,634 --> 00:18:06,634 What allowed him to remain on the run? 359 00:18:06,714 --> 00:18:10,154 One of the issues was that no-one was talking to anyone. 360 00:18:12,194 --> 00:18:15,114 Policing in those days was a very protective thing. 361 00:18:15,194 --> 00:18:17,154 This is my information, 362 00:18:17,234 --> 00:18:18,914 I'm not going to give you my information 363 00:18:18,994 --> 00:18:21,154 because you might get something I haven't got. 364 00:18:21,234 --> 00:18:23,554 And without having a national approach to it, 365 00:18:23,634 --> 00:18:24,954 nothing was going to go anywhere. 366 00:18:29,074 --> 00:18:32,114 So, it was extremely important that the states work together. 367 00:18:34,394 --> 00:18:38,834 I was going to push for a better flow of information 368 00:18:38,914 --> 00:18:41,394 between states, 369 00:18:41,474 --> 00:18:45,114 and so I was able to make contact with Sid Thomas in South Australia. 370 00:18:46,954 --> 00:18:49,434 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC) 371 00:18:49,514 --> 00:18:51,114 I started Operation Passion 372 00:18:51,194 --> 00:18:54,154 because I found that the cooperation 373 00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:56,794 from the other states was not as good 374 00:18:56,874 --> 00:18:58,114 as it could have been. 375 00:18:58,194 --> 00:19:00,674 Glen Potter and I formed quite a strong alliance 376 00:19:00,754 --> 00:19:03,794 and he was extremely good detective 377 00:19:03,874 --> 00:19:08,474 who had the same passion for apprehending Abbott. 378 00:19:08,554 --> 00:19:11,834 We tried to coordinate the knowledge 379 00:19:11,914 --> 00:19:14,954 and intelligence on a structured basis. 380 00:19:15,034 --> 00:19:16,274 And as a consequence, 381 00:19:16,354 --> 00:19:18,554 we started getting the other states on board 382 00:19:18,634 --> 00:19:20,594 and we started talking about similarities 383 00:19:20,674 --> 00:19:24,434 that were occurring between the robberies over here with Abbott 384 00:19:24,514 --> 00:19:28,154 but also what was going on up in Queensland 385 00:19:28,234 --> 00:19:31,034 and it started to wield results. 386 00:19:31,114 --> 00:19:34,994 So, I'd taken out a file and going through the file, 387 00:19:35,074 --> 00:19:36,554 it sparked a memory. 388 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:38,594 When I was in 79 Division, 389 00:19:38,674 --> 00:19:40,674 we'd been called to a domestic dispute, 390 00:19:40,754 --> 00:19:43,074 a woman by the name of Kelly Fisher 391 00:19:43,154 --> 00:19:45,914 was having a domestic dispute with Glen Salmon. 392 00:19:47,874 --> 00:19:49,674 We soon learned when we were there, 393 00:19:49,754 --> 00:19:52,234 Salmon was actually Brenden Abbott's brother. 394 00:19:53,554 --> 00:19:54,554 And in our discussions, 395 00:19:54,634 --> 00:19:57,514 we were finding that Glen had been over east 396 00:19:57,594 --> 00:19:59,154 and that period over east 397 00:19:59,234 --> 00:20:03,514 coincided with a well-known robbery 398 00:20:03,594 --> 00:20:05,474 on the Gold Coast. 399 00:20:05,554 --> 00:20:07,994 Commonwealth Bank at Broadbeach on the Gold Coast 400 00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:10,154 was robbed with consummate ease. 401 00:20:10,234 --> 00:20:12,154 And they just went from to teller 402 00:20:12,234 --> 00:20:15,714 until they had obviously satisfied 403 00:20:15,794 --> 00:20:17,834 with the amounts that they had received. 404 00:20:17,914 --> 00:20:20,074 Glen was over there with Brenden, 405 00:20:20,154 --> 00:20:24,434 so, Glen was obviously someone we needed to really focus on. 406 00:20:24,514 --> 00:20:27,514 (POLICE SIREN) 407 00:20:29,074 --> 00:20:31,594 We followed Salmon everywhere. 408 00:20:31,674 --> 00:20:34,354 Salmon had been caught speeding. 409 00:20:35,914 --> 00:20:38,554 They had started searching the car 410 00:20:38,634 --> 00:20:41,074 and they found what looked like a silencer. 411 00:20:42,634 --> 00:20:46,994 Salmon said it was a muffler to a motorbike or a go-kart. 412 00:20:47,074 --> 00:20:48,434 They started digging more 413 00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:50,634 and then they found some ammunition in there. 414 00:20:54,194 --> 00:20:55,354 And at that very moment, 415 00:20:55,434 --> 00:20:57,434 Salmon sprayed both officers in the eyes 416 00:20:57,514 --> 00:20:59,714 with what we call pepper spray. 417 00:21:02,714 --> 00:21:04,474 They both lunged on him. 418 00:21:04,554 --> 00:21:07,754 Salmon tried to take the gun out of one of the holsters 419 00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:09,434 with one of the fellas 420 00:21:09,514 --> 00:21:11,514 and Salmon was working very hard 421 00:21:11,594 --> 00:21:12,994 to try and get hold of that gun 422 00:21:13,074 --> 00:21:15,754 to obviously escape full on fight occurred, 423 00:21:15,834 --> 00:21:18,354 still blinded rolling on the ground. 424 00:21:18,434 --> 00:21:21,394 They eventually subdued him and got in handcuffs. 425 00:21:21,474 --> 00:21:23,474 (ROCK MUSIC) 426 00:21:25,234 --> 00:21:28,674 We had him brought back under close guard. 427 00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:30,074 He was shackled 428 00:21:30,154 --> 00:21:31,714 and he was put into the interview room 429 00:21:31,794 --> 00:21:33,594 and then we just let him sit there for a while. 430 00:21:33,674 --> 00:21:36,674 (INTENSE MUSIC) 431 00:21:38,674 --> 00:21:40,674 (LIGHT BULB CRACKLES) 432 00:21:46,714 --> 00:21:49,954 We wanted to talk to him, get into his head, 433 00:21:50,034 --> 00:21:54,234 find out what was important to him, 434 00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:57,554 and a summary of that would've been 435 00:21:57,634 --> 00:22:01,394 his allegiance to Brenden 436 00:22:01,474 --> 00:22:02,674 or his new family. 437 00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:06,914 It was a choice he had to make. 438 00:22:06,994 --> 00:22:11,434 Whether his family were important to him 439 00:22:11,514 --> 00:22:12,594 or Brenden was. 440 00:22:16,274 --> 00:22:22,154 Look, he didn't directly give Brenden up, 441 00:22:22,234 --> 00:22:23,634 but what he did do 442 00:22:23,714 --> 00:22:26,714 is he gave us a post office box at Mermaid Beach. 443 00:22:26,794 --> 00:22:29,674 (POLICE SIREN) 444 00:22:29,754 --> 00:22:31,714 Within minutes of getting that information, 445 00:22:31,794 --> 00:22:33,234 that was out to the Queensland guys. 446 00:22:35,554 --> 00:22:38,434 Post office box was raided, 447 00:22:38,514 --> 00:22:40,714 items were found in the post office box, 448 00:22:40,794 --> 00:22:42,394 which gave us an address 449 00:22:42,474 --> 00:22:45,554 for the apartment on Broadbeach. 450 00:22:45,634 --> 00:22:48,194 Queensland Police had a high rise opposite 451 00:22:48,274 --> 00:22:51,274 observing him from that high rise 452 00:22:51,354 --> 00:22:53,434 and identified it was Brenden Abbott. 453 00:22:55,634 --> 00:22:58,434 Then they saw him leave the flat, 454 00:22:58,514 --> 00:23:01,954 they had a surveillance operative downstairs 455 00:23:02,034 --> 00:23:04,034 and he was confronted by the surveillance operative 456 00:23:04,114 --> 00:23:05,514 and he was taken into custody. 457 00:23:11,194 --> 00:23:14,794 One of Australia's most wanted men has been arrested on the Gold Coast. 458 00:23:14,874 --> 00:23:17,514 32-year-old Brenden James Abbott. 459 00:23:17,594 --> 00:23:20,634 His five-year life on the run was abruptly terminated. 460 00:23:23,594 --> 00:23:25,234 Fucking oath he was, 461 00:23:25,314 --> 00:23:28,594 five years on the run out of Fremantle Prison 462 00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:30,554 amassing that amount of money. 463 00:23:30,634 --> 00:23:32,034 Yeah, of course he was. 464 00:23:32,114 --> 00:23:33,634 He was a hell of an adversary. 465 00:23:35,874 --> 00:23:37,954 Well, it was a quite sheer relief, 466 00:23:38,034 --> 00:23:40,354 the psychology of a professional bank robber, 467 00:23:40,434 --> 00:23:42,714 they're certainly thinking more about themselves 468 00:23:42,794 --> 00:23:45,674 and their own existence than they are of the people 469 00:23:45,754 --> 00:23:46,714 that they're robbing. 470 00:23:46,794 --> 00:23:48,474 If you are a victim of any of these robberies, 471 00:23:48,554 --> 00:23:50,474 you've got to put yourself in that position 472 00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:52,914 and think, "How would I feel?" 473 00:23:52,994 --> 00:23:55,994 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC) 474 00:23:58,794 --> 00:24:00,274 My name's Gwen Lehmann. 475 00:24:00,354 --> 00:24:03,034 I did 14 years with Commonwealth Bank. 476 00:24:07,554 --> 00:24:09,714 I would start, I think it was 9:30 477 00:24:09,794 --> 00:24:11,114 just as the bank opened 478 00:24:11,194 --> 00:24:14,754 and I think I probably finished about 4:15, 479 00:24:14,834 --> 00:24:16,914 which suited me doing the shorter hours 480 00:24:16,994 --> 00:24:18,754 being a mother. 481 00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:22,074 15 minute drive home to be with the kids, 482 00:24:22,154 --> 00:24:24,354 you know, just be arriving home themselves 483 00:24:24,434 --> 00:24:28,354 and, yeah, it was great 484 00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:31,274 until it was robbed by Brenden Abbott. 485 00:24:32,674 --> 00:24:36,154 Hold ups have been constantly in the news in recent months. 486 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:39,994 There'd been a spate of robberies 487 00:24:40,074 --> 00:24:43,754 and, yeah, it was in the news a lot. 488 00:24:45,834 --> 00:24:48,074 And on that Australia Day long weekend 489 00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:49,354 trying to be vigilant, 490 00:24:49,434 --> 00:24:51,914 a closing time came around, everything was great, 491 00:24:51,994 --> 00:24:56,994 you know, and that's when I heard this crash 492 00:24:57,074 --> 00:25:00,234 and I saw this figure emerging 493 00:25:00,314 --> 00:25:03,354 and then another one and all in black. 494 00:25:05,874 --> 00:25:06,954 I could see the gun, 495 00:25:07,034 --> 00:25:09,834 and so that's why immediately I dropped down. 496 00:25:09,914 --> 00:25:11,914 (SOBS) 497 00:25:12,994 --> 00:25:15,754 You're just hoping the police are going to get there really quick. 498 00:25:15,834 --> 00:25:17,634 You're just in shock, you know, 499 00:25:17,714 --> 00:25:20,194 because it is so aggressive and frightening. 500 00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:24,554 How can he do that? It's not his money. 501 00:25:24,634 --> 00:25:28,234 He's got no right to be doing that and frightening all these people, 502 00:25:28,314 --> 00:25:29,754 you know, just get a job. 503 00:25:31,274 --> 00:25:34,074 I didn't stay at that branch very long after that. 504 00:25:36,314 --> 00:25:39,914 I really didn't want to, I guess. 505 00:25:39,994 --> 00:25:41,914 Didn't need that trauma in my life. 506 00:25:43,754 --> 00:25:47,354 You can't help but take it personally though, 507 00:25:47,434 --> 00:25:50,314 just hoped he would be caught really. 508 00:25:50,394 --> 00:25:53,474 I'm not happy that they do glamorise people 509 00:25:53,554 --> 00:25:54,834 that do these things. 510 00:25:54,914 --> 00:25:57,274 They're not to be celebrated, are they? 511 00:25:57,354 --> 00:26:00,514 I'm sure a lot more bank officers probably feel the same. 512 00:26:10,714 --> 00:26:13,034 Yeah, Dad, he likes to cook. 513 00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:14,234 He's always got his little... 514 00:26:14,314 --> 00:26:15,874 That's another thing I want to ask him when he gets out, 515 00:26:15,954 --> 00:26:17,314 everyone's got their little... 516 00:26:17,394 --> 00:26:19,154 their little prison recipes they make inside. 517 00:26:21,674 --> 00:26:23,314 But I'd like to see him cook me something. 518 00:26:25,354 --> 00:26:28,354 (PHONE RINGS) 519 00:26:29,554 --> 00:26:31,434 If you do not wish to receive this call, 520 00:26:31,514 --> 00:26:33,314 please hang up. 521 00:26:33,394 --> 00:26:34,834 Go ahead, please. 522 00:26:47,954 --> 00:26:50,114 Some things they've found the lawyers have found 523 00:26:50,194 --> 00:26:52,834 and things that they see doesn't add up. 524 00:27:01,674 --> 00:27:02,794 (LAUGHS) 525 00:27:02,874 --> 00:27:05,994 So, what they're looking at now is he was basically since 2016, 526 00:27:06,074 --> 00:27:07,594 he's been unlawfully detained 527 00:27:07,674 --> 00:27:10,514 so, he probably shouldn't have been even put back inside after that. 528 00:27:14,194 --> 00:27:15,154 Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. 529 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:16,514 That's what I said that you're seeing people 530 00:27:16,594 --> 00:27:17,754 that are fucking, they're kiddy fiddlers 531 00:27:17,834 --> 00:27:19,674 or fucking murderers or fucking rapists 532 00:27:19,754 --> 00:27:21,474 and all this kind of stuff and then yeah, it's ridiculous. 533 00:27:21,554 --> 00:27:22,554 (PHONE BEEPS) 534 00:27:24,034 --> 00:27:25,034 Yeah. 535 00:27:28,874 --> 00:27:30,274 Yeah, that's fine, mate. No, dramas. 536 00:27:34,594 --> 00:27:38,914 Yeah, and then the last 30, 40 seconds 537 00:27:38,994 --> 00:27:40,034 you just cop those beeps, 538 00:27:40,114 --> 00:27:41,954 so, it's hard to kind of hear what he says. 539 00:27:42,034 --> 00:27:45,354 Sometimes like if he makes a remark or says a certain thing, 540 00:27:45,434 --> 00:27:46,914 there's always someone listening for every call, 541 00:27:46,994 --> 00:27:47,994 they listen to those, 542 00:27:48,074 --> 00:27:50,994 they'll just shut the call down and they'll just cancel the call. 543 00:27:51,074 --> 00:27:52,234 Trying to have a relationship with him 544 00:27:52,314 --> 00:27:53,754 with all those kind of restrictions in place, 545 00:27:53,834 --> 00:27:56,234 it's not... it's not out of the ordinary for me, 546 00:27:56,314 --> 00:27:59,154 so, to me it's just like getting ten-minute phone calls with him 547 00:27:59,234 --> 00:28:01,594 or getting an hour visit with him when I see him in person, 548 00:28:01,674 --> 00:28:02,954 that is normal. 549 00:28:03,034 --> 00:28:04,554 I've never had it any other way. 550 00:28:10,954 --> 00:28:12,434 What'd he say? Ten minutes, didn't he? 551 00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:19,194 It's been 11 minutes now. 552 00:28:21,234 --> 00:28:22,994 Already let me down. 553 00:28:23,074 --> 00:28:26,074 (ROCK MUSIC) 554 00:28:32,034 --> 00:28:33,434 In 1997, 555 00:28:33,514 --> 00:28:35,634 Brenden had been on the run for five years. 556 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,034 On the ground. 557 00:28:37,114 --> 00:28:42,234 Eventually got caught on the Gold Coast 558 00:28:42,314 --> 00:28:44,234 and then we've got him locked up in Longland 559 00:28:44,314 --> 00:28:45,554 in a maximum security prison. 560 00:28:45,634 --> 00:28:47,634 (ROCK MUSIC) 561 00:28:52,514 --> 00:28:53,994 It was a great time 562 00:28:54,074 --> 00:28:55,554 because he wasn't our problem anymore. 563 00:28:56,674 --> 00:28:58,154 How's he going to get out of this one? 564 00:28:58,234 --> 00:29:00,034 He's not. 565 00:29:00,114 --> 00:29:01,074 Brenden Abbott. 566 00:29:01,154 --> 00:29:02,874 Australia's most celebrated bank robber 567 00:29:02,954 --> 00:29:06,674 and prison escapee is finally back behind bars. 568 00:29:06,754 --> 00:29:07,714 At that point, 569 00:29:07,794 --> 00:29:10,434 I thought the Brenden Abbott story was over. 570 00:29:10,514 --> 00:29:11,514 I thought, "That's it. 571 00:29:11,594 --> 00:29:14,114 "He's never going to get out of prison." 572 00:29:14,194 --> 00:29:16,794 But then after a short while, it went back to business as usual. 573 00:29:31,194 --> 00:29:34,834 In this document here, which obviously he's written, 574 00:29:34,914 --> 00:29:37,434 he's outlined a handle he made up 575 00:29:37,514 --> 00:29:39,874 out of something he found in the prison 576 00:29:39,954 --> 00:29:43,474 for the diamond wire to cut through the-the bars. 577 00:29:43,554 --> 00:29:45,474 You just can't hold the wire and cut away, 578 00:29:45,554 --> 00:29:46,554 it'll just cut through your hand. 579 00:29:46,634 --> 00:29:48,594 So, he is devised a form of a handle. 580 00:29:48,674 --> 00:29:52,834 It just shows the length of detail he went to do his planning. 581 00:29:54,354 --> 00:29:57,274 Abbott and these other four inmates 582 00:29:57,354 --> 00:30:00,074 have diamond wire and smuggled into the prison. 583 00:30:00,154 --> 00:30:04,114 The wire was inserted inside the antenna of a radio 584 00:30:04,194 --> 00:30:06,434 that was delivered to Abbott 585 00:30:06,514 --> 00:30:08,474 as a gift from a family member 586 00:30:08,554 --> 00:30:10,034 and it probably would've been checked. 587 00:30:10,114 --> 00:30:11,834 It would've opened up the inside and had a look, 588 00:30:11,914 --> 00:30:13,834 but no-one looked inside the antenna. 589 00:30:13,914 --> 00:30:15,034 (PENSIVE MUSIC) 590 00:30:23,514 --> 00:30:25,834 Brenden Abbott had befriended an inmate 591 00:30:25,914 --> 00:30:27,834 and his name was Berichon. 592 00:30:57,194 --> 00:31:00,034 Your conversation will be recorded. Go ahead please. 593 00:31:00,114 --> 00:31:01,354 Berichon. 594 00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:06,794 Berichon has sourced weapons and organised getaway cars 595 00:31:06,874 --> 00:31:09,354 using code as to when the escape would occur. 596 00:31:24,754 --> 00:31:27,194 They had to each individually break out of their cells 597 00:31:27,274 --> 00:31:30,194 and then also escape out of the block itself. 598 00:31:32,594 --> 00:31:35,714 Berichon signalled to them that it's OK to escape 599 00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:37,234 with a flash of a light. 600 00:31:38,554 --> 00:31:42,354 They used plastic chairs that they melted together 601 00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:45,714 and stacked up to be able to leap over the razor wire 602 00:31:45,794 --> 00:31:47,354 that surrounded the block. 603 00:31:51,114 --> 00:31:53,394 There were several fences that they had to get through. 604 00:32:06,754 --> 00:32:10,274 The prison perimeter vehicle come trundling around the corner, 605 00:32:10,354 --> 00:32:12,074 Berichon had to open fire on them. 606 00:32:12,154 --> 00:32:13,874 With a high-powered rifle. 607 00:32:15,154 --> 00:32:16,434 (GUN FIRES) 608 00:32:42,314 --> 00:32:44,714 No-one knew what was going to happen next. 609 00:32:44,794 --> 00:32:46,434 Brisbane was a city under siege. 610 00:32:47,754 --> 00:32:49,274 We haven't got a clue where they're going, 611 00:32:49,354 --> 00:32:50,394 what their plans are. 612 00:32:50,474 --> 00:32:51,674 Was there going to be a shoot-out? 613 00:32:51,754 --> 00:32:54,674 Was there going to be a bank robbery? 614 00:32:54,754 --> 00:32:57,514 Heavily armed police were out in force today 615 00:32:57,594 --> 00:33:01,234 combing the bushland and suburbs to Brisbane south. 616 00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:03,034 It just felt like anything could happen. 617 00:33:03,114 --> 00:33:07,234 There was just I think a real sense of nervous tension in the air. 618 00:33:07,314 --> 00:33:08,874 (POLICE SIREN) 619 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,594 Three of the men are serving life sentences for murder. 620 00:33:11,674 --> 00:33:15,074 Another is serving 13 years while suspected ringleader. 621 00:33:15,154 --> 00:33:18,914 Brenden Abbott is serving 12 years for armed robbery. 622 00:33:18,994 --> 00:33:20,954 When Brenden escaped from Longland, 623 00:33:21,034 --> 00:33:23,954 he escaped with accomplices, 624 00:33:24,034 --> 00:33:26,234 at least four other complete losers 625 00:33:26,314 --> 00:33:28,234 who were dangerous criminals 626 00:33:28,314 --> 00:33:30,554 who were going to create havoc, 627 00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:33,074 you know, going to brothels, committing offences. 628 00:33:34,234 --> 00:33:37,314 He always knew that coppers had limited resources 629 00:33:37,394 --> 00:33:39,554 and if we are chasing off after those guys 630 00:33:39,634 --> 00:33:41,554 who were just going nuts after an escape, 631 00:33:41,634 --> 00:33:43,874 there's less chance we're going to be working on him 632 00:33:43,954 --> 00:33:45,034 or discovering him. 633 00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:50,634 The other guys could eventually got caught 634 00:33:50,714 --> 00:33:52,834 and him and Berichon went off 635 00:33:52,914 --> 00:33:54,314 and they teamed up for a while, 636 00:33:54,394 --> 00:33:57,794 which enabled Brenden to carry on his robberies. 637 00:34:05,834 --> 00:34:07,994 This sounds nice, Atlantic salmon. 638 00:34:10,074 --> 00:34:12,554 It's probably the dearest fucking thing on the menu. 639 00:34:12,634 --> 00:34:14,394 It would mean the world for me 640 00:34:14,474 --> 00:34:16,794 to see Brenden get out and spend time with James. 641 00:34:16,874 --> 00:34:19,394 Probably more so for James than for Brenden 642 00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:22,434 because I believe that James 643 00:34:22,514 --> 00:34:25,274 is desperate to have some sort of a connection with his dad. 644 00:34:27,434 --> 00:34:28,794 If they do come back and work it all out. 645 00:34:28,874 --> 00:34:31,114 How does it work though? Can he walk? 646 00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:32,634 Like, if they go, "OK, it's wrong." 647 00:34:32,714 --> 00:34:34,234 Like, there's no reason they can reserve the decision. 648 00:34:34,314 --> 00:34:35,314 Like, if that's the case, 649 00:34:35,394 --> 00:34:37,274 they should say all it needs to be out today. 650 00:34:37,354 --> 00:34:38,314 Yep. 651 00:34:38,394 --> 00:34:39,354 If I was in his position, they said, 652 00:34:39,434 --> 00:34:40,794 "Oh, no, your time was served years ago." 653 00:34:40,874 --> 00:34:43,394 I'm like, "Oh, open the door. I'm walking outside now." 654 00:34:43,474 --> 00:34:44,554 And every minute they hold him after, 655 00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:46,514 they hold him against his will, really, aren't they? 656 00:34:46,594 --> 00:34:48,234 Yeah. Well, yeah. 657 00:34:48,314 --> 00:34:50,354 So, I'll just hop straight on the plane and go, really? 658 00:34:50,434 --> 00:34:53,434 If I got a call and saying, "Yeah, it's all sweet", 659 00:34:53,514 --> 00:34:55,674 I'd book a flight and I'd be at the airport within the hour. 660 00:34:55,754 --> 00:34:57,634 Yep. Yep. And then, yeah. 661 00:34:57,714 --> 00:34:59,834 How do you think he's going to go flying back, though? 662 00:35:01,914 --> 00:35:03,354 I don't know, he'd probably be a bit fan... 663 00:35:03,434 --> 00:35:05,114 probably want me to put him in fucking business class. 664 00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:06,314 You'd have to. 665 00:35:06,394 --> 00:35:07,714 If he carries and I'll strap him to the wing. 666 00:35:07,794 --> 00:35:08,834 (LAUGHS) 667 00:35:10,594 --> 00:35:13,034 I think Brenden has definitely served his time. 668 00:35:13,114 --> 00:35:14,594 Brenden needs to get out of jail 669 00:35:14,674 --> 00:35:16,674 and he needs to spend time with his own son, 670 00:35:16,754 --> 00:35:18,634 which he has not done 671 00:35:18,714 --> 00:35:21,754 since his son was born, pretty much. 672 00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:25,674 If he's due for parole in October... 673 00:35:25,754 --> 00:35:26,874 Mm-hm. 674 00:35:26,954 --> 00:35:29,594 If they don't start integrating him, 675 00:35:29,674 --> 00:35:31,594 they're going to say, "No, we're not giving him parole 676 00:35:31,674 --> 00:35:33,594 "because he hasn't had enough integration time." 677 00:35:33,674 --> 00:35:34,634 Yeah. 678 00:35:34,714 --> 00:35:35,794 Like, 'cause he needs to be able 679 00:35:35,874 --> 00:35:38,674 to get used to looking after himself. 680 00:35:38,754 --> 00:35:39,754 Well, that's right. 681 00:35:39,834 --> 00:35:41,554 Not that he can't do it, but still... 682 00:35:41,634 --> 00:35:42,954 It's... You want to give some... 683 00:35:43,034 --> 00:35:44,634 But that's an excuse for them to say no. 684 00:35:44,714 --> 00:35:46,434 He's 63 years old. I know. 685 00:35:46,514 --> 00:35:47,794 When are they going to fucking let it go? 686 00:35:47,874 --> 00:35:48,874 I know. 687 00:35:48,954 --> 00:35:50,634 I have never ever said 688 00:35:50,714 --> 00:35:52,674 that I don't believe that Brenden should have served time. 689 00:35:52,754 --> 00:35:54,354 He did a crime 690 00:35:54,434 --> 00:35:57,074 and when you do a crime, you do the time. 691 00:35:57,154 --> 00:35:58,154 This is not time. 692 00:35:58,234 --> 00:36:01,674 This was not anymore about a bank robber, 693 00:36:01,754 --> 00:36:04,754 this was a political agenda 694 00:36:04,834 --> 00:36:07,994 because they were pissed off at what he had done. 695 00:36:10,394 --> 00:36:12,834 Abbot's been on the run for almost a month now. 696 00:36:12,914 --> 00:36:14,554 One sighting was in the city, 697 00:36:14,634 --> 00:36:16,394 but we have been unable to confirm this. 698 00:36:16,474 --> 00:36:19,794 The elusive escapee could still be just about anywhere. 699 00:36:19,874 --> 00:36:21,274 It's a cat and mouse game. 700 00:36:21,354 --> 00:36:23,874 Cops trying to find a crook, especially someone like that. 701 00:36:28,034 --> 00:36:30,594 When Brenden escaped from Longland prison, 702 00:36:30,674 --> 00:36:32,234 he and Berichon teamed up. 703 00:36:33,754 --> 00:36:37,234 Berichon was obviously on the run with Abbott 704 00:36:37,314 --> 00:36:39,474 and in Victoria there was an incident 705 00:36:39,554 --> 00:36:40,634 where there had been a drug deal 706 00:36:40,714 --> 00:36:43,514 identified by two Victorian police officers. 707 00:36:43,594 --> 00:36:45,114 And as a result of that, 708 00:36:45,194 --> 00:36:46,194 there had been a shooting 709 00:36:46,274 --> 00:36:47,754 and the two officers had been wounded. 710 00:36:51,754 --> 00:36:54,474 And it turned out it was Berichon. 711 00:36:54,554 --> 00:36:56,194 (SIREN WAILS) 712 00:36:56,274 --> 00:36:57,234 Warrants have been issued 713 00:36:57,314 --> 00:36:59,474 for the arrest of 20-year-old Brenden Luke Berichon 714 00:36:59,554 --> 00:37:02,234 over the shooting of two police officers with him, 715 00:37:02,314 --> 00:37:04,154 Australia's notorious Postcard Bandit. 716 00:37:36,354 --> 00:37:39,034 You've taken a big step when you shoot coppers. 717 00:37:39,114 --> 00:37:41,514 That raised hackles across the country. 718 00:37:41,594 --> 00:37:44,114 (HELICOPTER WHIRRS) 719 00:37:56,074 --> 00:37:58,554 (SIREN WAILS) 720 00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:00,594 So, now that we have a shooting 721 00:38:00,674 --> 00:38:04,834 the Postcard Bandit becomes a national thing of interest again. 722 00:38:04,914 --> 00:38:08,354 Order. Members will calm down. 723 00:38:08,434 --> 00:38:11,674 Brenden Abbott's embarrassed the governments of both Queensland, 724 00:38:11,754 --> 00:38:13,834 WA at a political level. 725 00:38:13,914 --> 00:38:15,194 We can't keep a prisoner in. 726 00:38:15,274 --> 00:38:17,074 Politicians pay attention to that. 727 00:38:17,154 --> 00:38:20,194 But Abbott very much became a political football. 728 00:38:20,274 --> 00:38:23,634 The opposition Labor Party were hammering the Nationals 729 00:38:23,714 --> 00:38:25,554 over the fact that Abbott had managed 730 00:38:25,634 --> 00:38:26,794 to escape from prison. 731 00:38:26,874 --> 00:38:28,394 Brenden Abbott is a symbol 732 00:38:28,474 --> 00:38:30,434 of the incompetence of this government. 733 00:38:30,514 --> 00:38:33,034 The two parties in Queensland 734 00:38:33,114 --> 00:38:36,074 were vying for the reputations 735 00:38:36,154 --> 00:38:38,554 of being the toughest on law and order. 736 00:38:38,634 --> 00:38:39,834 Where is Brenden Abbott? 737 00:38:44,554 --> 00:38:47,754 Berichon went off the rails in Victoria and shot the copper. 738 00:38:47,834 --> 00:38:49,474 We now had something firm 739 00:38:49,554 --> 00:38:51,994 that they're on the move 740 00:38:52,074 --> 00:38:54,114 that ultimately led to Darwin. 741 00:38:56,554 --> 00:38:58,474 Well, it was a bit of a lead up to his capture. 742 00:38:58,554 --> 00:39:01,554 I was asked to listen to some telephone intercepts 743 00:39:01,634 --> 00:39:03,874 by the National Crime Authority in relation 744 00:39:03,954 --> 00:39:06,914 to a person they thought might've been Brenden Abbott 745 00:39:06,994 --> 00:39:09,274 in the north of Australia. 746 00:39:09,354 --> 00:39:12,194 When I listened to the tape, yeah, it did sound like him. 747 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:14,874 Things really started moving, 748 00:39:14,954 --> 00:39:18,634 but the authorities were very angry and as a consequence, 749 00:39:18,714 --> 00:39:21,154 they were going to throw everything in at the hunt 750 00:39:21,234 --> 00:39:22,234 for Brenden Abbott. 751 00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:26,034 He's been very lucky to slip through the police net 752 00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:28,074 but he got very unlucky that day. 753 00:39:28,154 --> 00:39:30,754 He was caught coming out from doing his laundry. 754 00:39:36,754 --> 00:39:39,074 (POLICE SIREN) 755 00:39:48,994 --> 00:39:49,954 Good evening. 756 00:39:50,034 --> 00:39:52,154 Australia's most notorious bank robber, Brenden Abbott, 757 00:39:52,234 --> 00:39:53,834 is back behind bars tonight. 758 00:39:53,914 --> 00:39:56,354 One of his requests has been for us 759 00:39:56,434 --> 00:39:58,754 to retrieve his laundry in the dryer. 760 00:39:59,914 --> 00:40:02,954 Brenden, are you looking forward to going back to Queensland? 761 00:40:03,034 --> 00:40:04,954 It wasn't a typical thing for a criminal 762 00:40:05,034 --> 00:40:08,514 to be flown from one city to another in a... in a private jet. 763 00:40:10,354 --> 00:40:13,474 The level of notoriety that he had gained 764 00:40:13,554 --> 00:40:16,074 and the fears that the police probably quite rightly 765 00:40:16,154 --> 00:40:17,834 had at that stage 766 00:40:17,914 --> 00:40:20,314 were that it required the highest level of security. 767 00:40:22,954 --> 00:40:25,914 There was that Lex Luther persona surrounding Abbott. 768 00:40:25,994 --> 00:40:28,914 He was in the eyes of the police and corrective services, 769 00:40:28,994 --> 00:40:31,194 he was a super villain capable of anything. 770 00:40:31,274 --> 00:40:35,154 Abbott was moved by helicopter to high security at Woodford Prison. 771 00:40:35,234 --> 00:40:37,034 They set up this special cell for him 772 00:40:37,114 --> 00:40:38,874 in the supermax at Woodford 773 00:40:38,954 --> 00:40:41,874 and vowed that he would be remaining in solitary 774 00:40:41,954 --> 00:40:43,154 for a very long time 775 00:40:43,234 --> 00:40:45,994 and no opportunity to escape and that's exactly what happened. 776 00:40:46,074 --> 00:40:47,314 (CELL DOOR SHUTS) 777 00:40:49,514 --> 00:40:51,514 (BIRDS CHIRP) 778 00:40:53,034 --> 00:40:56,594 Abbott spent the best part of ten years 779 00:40:56,674 --> 00:40:57,914 in solitary confinement in, 780 00:40:57,994 --> 00:40:59,794 like, Hannibal Lector almost. 781 00:41:06,954 --> 00:41:10,234 Oh, being in solitary like 23 hours a day lockdown, 782 00:41:10,314 --> 00:41:12,634 I'm pretty sure, like, in your cell, basically, 783 00:41:12,714 --> 00:41:14,834 that would be enough to drive anyone insane. 784 00:41:17,634 --> 00:41:19,874 I think he did six years straight at one stage with that, 785 00:41:19,954 --> 00:41:21,354 which is fucking ridiculous. 786 00:41:21,434 --> 00:41:25,034 I don't know how they got away with doing that. 787 00:42:17,234 --> 00:42:19,354 How do you get through that, like, to not be crazy? 788 00:42:19,434 --> 00:42:21,034 You know, what I mean for what, 12 years? 789 00:42:24,274 --> 00:42:25,274 Oh, yeah. 790 00:42:46,554 --> 00:42:47,674 As far as his mental health that goes, 791 00:42:47,754 --> 00:42:50,674 he seems in good spirits and all that kind of stuff too, 792 00:42:50,754 --> 00:42:51,914 but you can never really tell. 793 00:42:51,994 --> 00:42:53,994 You know, someone can be really depressed 794 00:42:54,074 --> 00:42:55,074 and no-one would even know 795 00:42:55,154 --> 00:42:57,034 because the person's always showing like a smile and being all happy. 796 00:42:57,114 --> 00:42:59,114 (KEYS JINGLE) 797 00:43:18,754 --> 00:43:21,154 The treatment was just insane. 798 00:43:21,234 --> 00:43:23,994 He's in jail, you've got him in maximum security. 799 00:43:24,074 --> 00:43:25,514 Why are you doing this? 800 00:43:25,594 --> 00:43:28,234 Anyone spending 24 hours by themselves 801 00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:29,394 knows it's difficult. 802 00:43:29,474 --> 00:43:31,874 To do that for the timeframe he did, 803 00:43:31,954 --> 00:43:35,194 I mean, to me that was just gutless to the authorities too. 804 00:43:46,634 --> 00:43:49,074 I'm surprised that Brenden 805 00:43:49,154 --> 00:43:54,194 is not completely screwed in the head, completely. 806 00:44:02,394 --> 00:44:06,554 30 years inside is punishment 807 00:44:06,634 --> 00:44:08,794 for embarrassing the system. 808 00:44:08,874 --> 00:44:11,394 I do think that is what has happened to Brenden Abbott, 809 00:44:11,474 --> 00:44:13,834 but he has been behind bars 810 00:44:13,914 --> 00:44:18,514 since 1995 with the exception of that six months on the run 811 00:44:18,594 --> 00:44:22,114 and most of that time has been in solitary. 812 00:44:22,194 --> 00:44:25,434 I think there's the old attitude, do the crime, you serve the time. 813 00:44:25,514 --> 00:44:26,914 There are probably plenty of good reasons 814 00:44:26,994 --> 00:44:28,034 why he wants to get out 815 00:44:28,114 --> 00:44:30,714 because I'm sure there's still funds available. 816 00:44:30,794 --> 00:44:31,794 I did have some knowledge 817 00:44:31,874 --> 00:44:33,634 that he's got money stashed here in South Australia, 818 00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:37,354 but where, who knows? 819 00:44:37,434 --> 00:44:39,234 Look, I feel for the victims. 820 00:44:39,314 --> 00:44:41,634 Anyone who's had a gun pointed in their face, 821 00:44:41,714 --> 00:44:44,554 he deserves to have been punished for that. 822 00:44:44,634 --> 00:44:48,114 But having said that, he's done his time. 823 00:44:48,194 --> 00:44:49,914 I have to say, I mean, I've locked up murderers 824 00:44:49,994 --> 00:44:52,754 who've got one third of the sentence that he's got. 825 00:44:57,194 --> 00:44:59,714 Go to the pub, have some pool, have something to eat. 826 00:44:59,794 --> 00:45:01,914 Like, now it's getting close I'm actually starting to think like, 827 00:45:01,994 --> 00:45:03,034 "Fuck, what can we do?" 828 00:45:04,674 --> 00:45:06,274 I'm sure he wouldn't mind doing something like this. 829 00:45:06,354 --> 00:45:07,954 It's pretty relaxing too, 830 00:45:08,034 --> 00:45:09,234 you won't have to talk to many people, 831 00:45:09,314 --> 00:45:10,714 you just sit there and play a game. 832 00:45:12,914 --> 00:45:15,434 Will probably go out of his way too to make sure he can beat me. 833 00:45:16,954 --> 00:45:18,314 Just spending one day together 834 00:45:18,394 --> 00:45:21,994 will be like a whole year's worth of phone calls and visits. 835 00:45:23,154 --> 00:45:24,314 He's getting older as well too, 836 00:45:24,394 --> 00:45:26,634 so, I don't know how much longer I got with him. 837 00:45:26,714 --> 00:45:27,914 Like, Dad's been saying for years, 838 00:45:27,994 --> 00:45:29,114 he goes, "I'm old now" and stuff too. 839 00:45:29,194 --> 00:45:30,514 He goes, like, 840 00:45:30,594 --> 00:45:33,034 "I don't have interest in wanting to try and run away. 841 00:45:33,114 --> 00:45:34,114 "I don't want to rob banks." 842 00:45:34,194 --> 00:45:37,674 like he goes, "I've done all that, look what it's cost me." 843 00:45:37,754 --> 00:45:38,994 He has no amount of money 844 00:45:39,074 --> 00:45:40,754 is worth the years that he spent in jail 845 00:45:40,834 --> 00:45:42,154 when he could have been outside with me 846 00:45:42,234 --> 00:45:43,954 having a-a legitimate life. 847 00:45:54,594 --> 00:45:55,554 When do I get out, 848 00:45:55,634 --> 00:45:57,714 the criminal activities' done and dusted. 849 00:45:57,794 --> 00:45:58,874 Too old for that shit now. 850 00:46:04,194 --> 00:46:06,834 I want to spend a lot of time with James. 851 00:46:06,914 --> 00:46:08,714 Hasn't been fair for him, I must say. 852 00:46:10,154 --> 00:46:11,354 I wasn't going out in the run 853 00:46:11,434 --> 00:46:14,314 expecting to have a child, have a son. 854 00:46:14,394 --> 00:46:15,634 I have no regrets about that. 855 00:46:18,114 --> 00:46:20,514 Go fishing, doing up an old car or something 856 00:46:20,594 --> 00:46:23,754 and just basically have my freedom back, really. 857 00:46:25,034 --> 00:46:26,274 That's not much I'm asking for. 858 00:46:27,434 --> 00:46:29,634 I mean, if I went down a different path in life, 859 00:46:29,714 --> 00:46:32,074 who knows what I could have done is what it is, you know. 860 00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:36,354 I can't change anything, 861 00:46:36,434 --> 00:46:38,834 I may as well, you know, enjoy the ride. 862 00:46:58,154 --> 00:46:59,554 What's the first thing you think you're going to do 863 00:46:59,634 --> 00:47:00,674 if you get released? 864 00:47:02,634 --> 00:47:04,434 Um, I might have to go to the bank. 865 00:47:04,514 --> 00:47:07,474 (THEME MUSIC) 866 00:47:20,194 --> 00:47:23,194 Captioned by AI-Media ai-media. tv 67181

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