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(CLOCK TICKS)
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(BREATHES HEAVILY)
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(TENSE MUSIC)
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(UP-TEMPO MUSIC)
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Get on the ground!
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(BELL RINGS)
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Australia's most wanted criminal,
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the notorious Postcard Bandit,
Brenden Abbott.
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We don't want anyone dead today,
do we?
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His robberies
have the mark of genius.
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We've got
a Ned Kelly running around.
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Taunting police
with postcards and holiday snaps.
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Everybody likes to see
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the coppers outfoxed.
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Most crooks you deal with
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are as dumb as a box of hammers.
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Brenden was not stupid.
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Brenden was a larrikin,
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he was a cheeky bugger.
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A master of disguise.
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Abbott made a daring escape
from a Perth jail.
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(SIREN WAILS)
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That was a pretty smart escape.
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Oh, it's genius.
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(SIREN WAILS)
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The hunt is continuing
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for two extremely
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dangerous prisoners.
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Hitting banks in Perth,
South Australia,
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New South Wales and Queensland.
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I first met my dad
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when he was on the run.
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Police were watching the house.
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He'd take the risk
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of coming around,
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got some balls to be doing that.
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(DOG BARKS)
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If the police see him,
they're gonna shoot him,
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and that was my greatest fear.
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One of Australia's most wanted men
has been arrested on the Gold Coast.
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The man no jail
has been able to hold,
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finally, back in custody.
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Abbott is being held
in strict security
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in solitary confinement.
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Brenden Abbott has done
more solitary confinement
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than any prisoner in Australia ever.
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The nation's
longest serving prisoner
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who hasn't committed murder.
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28 years. It's shit.
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I'm sick of playing these games.
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Five-hour flight
for a 20-minute visit,
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but at the same time,
it's all I've known.
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Australia's most notorious
bank robber and prison escapee
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has begun a last ditch bid
for freedom.
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Do you think it's fair
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that he's spent
more than some murderers?
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It's been way too long.
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He knew
what he was getting involved in.
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You do the crime,
you serve the time.
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What's been going on?
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(THEME MUSIC)
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Australia's
most notorious prison escapee
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is plotting a fresh bid for freedom.
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This time within the law.
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In a legal challenge,
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the now 63-year-old
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is seeking to have his sentence
deemed unlawful.
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My name's James Abbott...
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Son of Brenden Abbott,
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'Postcard Bandit',
as everyone refers to him.
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Dad's over in Casuarina Prison
in Western Australia now,
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couldn't be any further away
from Sydney if he tried.
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I try to get over there
twice a year.
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He's been in jail for way too long,
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27, 28 years now straight.
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I've never known him
out of prison basically.
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(PHONE RINGS)
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Oh, Dad's calling now.
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You're about to receive a phone call
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from a prisoner
at the Casuarina prison.
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Your conversation will be recorded.
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If you do not wish
to receive this call,
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please hang up now.
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Go ahead, please.
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Hey.
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Good. What's happening?
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Turning up? For what?
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Is that today?
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(LAUGHTER)
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Yeah, nah,
I'm pulling up shortly actually.
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My brother Brenden
has well and truly served his time.
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Brenden needs to get out of jail
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and he needs to spend time
with his own son.
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I kind of
do beat myself up a bit now
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thinking like
how many years I wasted
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not going to visit Dad.
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James is desperate
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to have some sort of
a connection with his dad.
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The authorities need to let it go.
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It's been cruel, it's been inhumane,
and it's been unnecessary.
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So, Dad's got a court case
coming up.
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They've somehow managed to change
his earliest parole date now
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from 2026 to 2028 or 2029.
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I don't see
how they're allowed to just change
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someone's earliest parole date
and add an extra three years to it.
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His lawyers,
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they're working on to say
that he's been unlawfully detained.
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What we're hoping for is that
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he's to be
basically released immediately.
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Brenden had been involved in,
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I guess you could call it
a black-market ring,
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stealing electrical items
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they would steal from warehouses,
load up trucks...
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And there's a lot of people
who are happy to buy cheap goods.
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Price rises will be hefty.
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Electrical items and white goods
are all set to rise.
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(UPBEAT MUSIC)
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Back in June, 1986,
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I was a brand-new
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probationary detective.
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I think it was my second day
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and a series of raids
had been planned
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with the break and enter squad
targeting some individuals
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who were doing high-end burglary.
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The crooks were smashing open walls,
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getting inside
and taking significant amounts
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of high-end electrical stuff.
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So, the warrants were executed
on this morning
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and a number of people
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were brought back
to Nollamara detective's office,
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which was an old house
converted into an office.
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I saw Brenden Abbott
when he came in.
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He just looked like
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a normal run-of-the-mill person.
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Nothing odd about him
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or anything like that.
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A young detective, John,
was watching him.
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My job that morning
was look after Abbott
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while we interviewed the others.
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Abbott's in a back room,
which was effectively a store room.
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There were no cells in this place.
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"Mate, would you like a cup of tea
or a coffee while you're waiting?"
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And he said, "Yeah, I'd love one."
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Walked down the corridor
into the kitchen...
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And as I'm making this cup of tea,
there's this tremendous bang.
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(DOOR BANGS)
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
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Brenden's out the back door
and he was pretty quick.
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He was gone
within a matter of seconds.
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Over fences and just disappeared
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into the back blocks of Nollamara.
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So, we did a search around the area
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and no sign of Brenden.
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So, effectively,
that was his first escape.
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It wasn't a good start
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for a brand-new
probationary detective,
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and it caused me a fair bit of grief
from the more senior people there.
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We all felt a bit sorry for John.
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He was only a very junior,
young detective.
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Yeah.
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Abbott was then on the run,
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and that's when he started planning
the Belmont job.
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Get on the ground!
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Brenden Abbott was obviously
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looking at
what his career was gonna be
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and he decided he was going to be
a career criminal.
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Could have been anything.
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I actually quite liked him.
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I probably shouldn't say that,
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but he was a likeable
sort of character
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and very intelligent.
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Like any intelligent,
you know, knockabout bloke,
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he decided that crime was gonna be
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the best way forward
and the rewards were great.
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The Commonwealth Bank, Belmont,
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8:45, Friday morning,
two men brandishing guns.
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They escaped
with more than $100,000.
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These dramatic photos
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come from the bank's security camera
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as the robbers fled the scene.
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In WA,
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we were just beginning
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to experience growth
in armed holdups.
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You could have two or three a week.
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Petrified bank employees
were held at gunpoint by the men.
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One wielding a handgun,
the other a shotgun.
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Yeah, I remember the Belmont
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robbery particularly
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because it happened to be
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my birthday that day.
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We got a call out to go out there.
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We soon discovered
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staff were pretty traumatised
by the way it occurred.
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How does it feel
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when you had a gun
pointed at your head?
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You stupid bitch.
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The Belmont robbery was the one
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that really brought him
to everybody's notice.
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Brenden Abbott opened a new era
to us as investigators
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of what crooks, bank robbers
were going to do.
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This was a real smart,
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well-planned thing
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where they got into the roof
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and they hid there in the roof...
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Until they realised
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or until they could see
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that the bank manager
had opened the vault.
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Once it was open,
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then they dropped down
through the roof.
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On the ground!
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Gave them an element of surprise.
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Everyone on the ground!
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The staff wouldn't have been
suspecting anything
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until they came down
through the roof.
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Stay there!
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I don't want any heroes
pushing any buttons.
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As it turned out
they had planned it quite well.
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We don't want anyone dead today,
do we?
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Up, up...
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With me.
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They were going to get
far more money
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if they could get into a bank
and into the vault
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before the bank had opened
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than if they walked
in the front door
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and did the usual style of stickup
that you would normally do.
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Stay on the fucking ground!
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Hurry up, big night, stay down!
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Coming through the ceiling
was something new.
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Stay down. Stay down.
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Let's go!
Come on. Come on. Come on.
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I hadn't come across that before,
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and I don't think
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too many of my colleagues
had at the time either.
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Most crooks you deal with,
especially in that era...
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They was dumb as a box of hammers.
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Brenden was not stupid.
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That was a fucking disaster.
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What happened?
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We get here,
we get here half an hour early.
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The visit starts at 1:45.
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They delayed us,
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didn't get us out of here
until up there until about 2:00.
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Then they call us up there.
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Then I go sit in the waiting booth
waiting to see Dad.
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I sat there for probably
20 odd minutes waiting,
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and I ended up
walking back out of the door saying,
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"What's going on?"
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And the guard asked me, he goes,
"Are you ready to leave?"
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I said, "He hasn't even
fucking walked out yet."
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So, don't know what the deal is.
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So, sitting there,
waiting, waiting, waiting,
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and then by the time he comes in,
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Dad comes in,
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he's losing his fucking mind.
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He goes,
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"I've been sitting
in that waiting room
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"for you to come."
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He's been sitting there
waiting for me
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to come the last 15 to 20 minutes,
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but I've been sitting there
waiting for him too.
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They haven't communicated.
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So, by the time
Dad's come in for the visit,
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I got maybe 15, 20 minutes
out of the whole hour.
263
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So, fly all the way from Sydney
five-hour flight
264
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for a fucking 15 or 20-minute visit.
265
00:13:14,074 --> 00:13:16,034
Yeah, they do this
all the fucking time.
266
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I don't understand what happens.
267
00:13:20,034 --> 00:13:22,154
So, Dad's in a bad mood.
268
00:13:22,234 --> 00:13:24,514
He is sick of this stuff happening
all the time.
269
00:13:25,954 --> 00:13:26,954
What?
270
00:13:30,554 --> 00:13:31,834
Yeah.
271
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They've delayed us twice already.
272
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Then moved us to non-contact
273
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and then put us in a room
274
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where they know
the speaker doesn't work.
275
00:13:53,634 --> 00:13:55,514
The visits are getting cancelled,
left, right and so on.
276
00:13:55,594 --> 00:13:56,634
So, it's like even for me now
277
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to book a visit
to go see him in Perth,
278
00:13:59,194 --> 00:14:01,034
I'm sitting there just thinking,
"Am I wasting money?"
279
00:14:01,114 --> 00:14:02,514
And gives you anxiety
about driving there.
280
00:14:02,594 --> 00:14:03,554
Alright, no worries.
281
00:14:03,634 --> 00:14:05,234
I'll chat to you soon.
282
00:14:06,794 --> 00:14:08,514
No worries, mate.
I'll chat to you soon.
283
00:14:08,594 --> 00:14:09,634
See you, bye.
284
00:14:11,514 --> 00:14:13,874
Doing your crimes,
you get obviously jail time
285
00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:16,914
for doing the wrong thing,
but it's been way too long.
286
00:14:16,994 --> 00:14:18,034
It's enough now.
287
00:14:20,114 --> 00:14:21,434
For you to be released
out of prison,
288
00:14:21,514 --> 00:14:22,474
they have to say
289
00:14:22,554 --> 00:14:24,874
that you're no longer a threat
to society.
290
00:14:25,914 --> 00:14:28,074
Recently,
I've seen some murderer got out,
291
00:14:28,154 --> 00:14:29,234
has killed all these people.
292
00:14:29,314 --> 00:14:30,754
You see there's other people
getting released
293
00:14:30,834 --> 00:14:32,074
for other stuff they've done...
294
00:14:33,794 --> 00:14:36,154
and they get less time
than what Dad has,
295
00:14:36,234 --> 00:14:37,714
I don't understand how it works.
296
00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:38,834
No idea.
297
00:14:40,954 --> 00:14:42,954
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
298
00:14:46,954 --> 00:14:48,794
The Belmont robbery,
299
00:14:48,874 --> 00:14:50,754
that woke everybody up.
300
00:14:50,834 --> 00:14:52,354
To come through the ceiling...
301
00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:53,554
On the ground!
302
00:14:53,634 --> 00:14:56,154
..and get away
in such a brazen hold-up.
303
00:14:58,674 --> 00:14:59,794
We have a problem here.
304
00:15:03,034 --> 00:15:04,114
The hunt began.
305
00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:08,714
Police immediately launched
a massive hunt for the robbers
306
00:15:08,794 --> 00:15:12,914
and their getaway car,
a white Cordia Mitsubishi.
307
00:15:12,994 --> 00:15:16,434
This helicopter was also called in
for a wide aerial search
308
00:15:16,514 --> 00:15:18,674
of the metropolitan area.
309
00:15:18,754 --> 00:15:19,874
Catch me if you can.
310
00:15:23,554 --> 00:15:26,394
Brenden Abbott
had some type of relationship
311
00:15:26,474 --> 00:15:28,274
with Jackie Lord at the time.
312
00:15:29,754 --> 00:15:31,674
I was 15 when I first met Brenden,
313
00:15:31,754 --> 00:15:34,554
and I remember meeting him
at a swimming pool.
314
00:15:36,594 --> 00:15:42,394
He seemed almost shy,
but he was also mysterious.
315
00:15:42,474 --> 00:15:43,514
But I was quite normal
316
00:15:43,594 --> 00:15:44,594
when I met Brenden,
317
00:15:44,674 --> 00:15:46,474
it wasn't like I was anything bad,
318
00:15:46,554 --> 00:15:49,634
I was working,
I had in fact two jobs.
319
00:15:49,714 --> 00:15:53,794
I wasn't a thief as such,
but I started to shoplift.
320
00:15:54,874 --> 00:15:56,634
I suppose
it might've even been in competition
321
00:15:56,714 --> 00:15:57,994
with what Brenden was doing.
322
00:15:59,674 --> 00:16:02,114
We were soulmates,
323
00:16:02,194 --> 00:16:05,034
but I had to make some choices,
324
00:16:05,114 --> 00:16:07,434
otherwise I would've gone
the wrong way as well.
325
00:16:07,514 --> 00:16:10,114
So, I decided
that I'd have to cut it from there.
326
00:16:13,034 --> 00:16:14,994
They did have an off and on,
327
00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:17,394
an up and down relationship
for many years...
328
00:16:18,794 --> 00:16:20,714
After the Belmont robbery.
329
00:16:20,794 --> 00:16:23,314
Jackie found out that Brenden
had been seeing somebody else.
330
00:16:24,434 --> 00:16:26,954
She then contacted the police
and said
331
00:16:27,034 --> 00:16:28,714
where they would be able
to find Brenden.
332
00:16:28,794 --> 00:16:30,474
It was her tip-off
333
00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,834
that let the authorities know
334
00:16:32,914 --> 00:16:35,274
that Brenden Abbott
was a part of that robbery
335
00:16:35,354 --> 00:16:37,794
and she did receive reward money.
336
00:16:37,874 --> 00:16:38,834
I was furious.
337
00:16:38,914 --> 00:16:41,034
How dare you do that to my brother?
338
00:16:41,114 --> 00:16:43,914
I was pretty annoyed with her
for doing that.
339
00:16:43,994 --> 00:16:46,354
I mean,
I know that he did the wrong thing,
340
00:16:46,434 --> 00:16:49,754
but it was all over jealousy
as far as I was aware.
341
00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:52,754
So, he had seen another woman
or something
342
00:16:52,834 --> 00:16:54,674
and Jackie had got jealous
about that
343
00:16:54,754 --> 00:16:57,834
and so she reported it
where Brenden was to the police.
344
00:16:57,914 --> 00:17:01,154
Jackie Lord pointed us
towards Abbott.
345
00:17:01,234 --> 00:17:06,754
He was in Port Headland
at the Walkabout Hotel.
346
00:17:06,834 --> 00:17:10,394
We let the local detectives know,
347
00:17:10,474 --> 00:17:12,314
they went out there,
but he was gone.
348
00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:18,834
His vehicle was seen pulling
into the Port Headland airport.
349
00:17:18,914 --> 00:17:21,474
We knew
Brenden Abbott was fairly cunning,
350
00:17:21,554 --> 00:17:23,754
we thought maybe
he's coming back to Perth.
351
00:17:32,754 --> 00:17:33,994
We got to the airport,
352
00:17:34,074 --> 00:17:35,074
we made contact
353
00:17:35,154 --> 00:17:37,474
with the Ansett security officer
out there.
354
00:17:38,594 --> 00:17:40,994
We told him what was going on
355
00:17:41,074 --> 00:17:44,954
and that we wanted to see
if Abbott was on this plane.
356
00:17:46,714 --> 00:17:51,874
This is just a little mud map,
that's Ansett flight 347.
357
00:17:53,034 --> 00:17:54,674
All the passengers got off.
358
00:17:54,754 --> 00:17:56,474
He was the last one off
359
00:17:57,754 --> 00:18:01,394
And immediately I recognised
it was Brenden Abbott.
360
00:18:03,514 --> 00:18:05,034
He was looking around.
361
00:18:05,114 --> 00:18:07,594
He was well aware
of his surroundings.
362
00:18:08,794 --> 00:18:12,274
He made his way down
following the other passengers,
363
00:18:12,354 --> 00:18:16,834
but he kept on putting his hand
inside his jacket,
364
00:18:16,914 --> 00:18:19,594
which made me think
he probably was armed.
365
00:18:21,314 --> 00:18:25,274
He was starting to walk faster,
so, I had to walk a lot faster,
366
00:18:25,354 --> 00:18:28,034
and I was able to catch up with him.
367
00:18:28,114 --> 00:18:32,074
Some people started yelling,
"Hey, he's got a gun."
368
00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:34,994
And so, then I knew
that straight away
369
00:18:35,074 --> 00:18:37,434
had to make a move.
370
00:18:45,514 --> 00:18:46,874
We jumped on him.
371
00:18:46,954 --> 00:18:48,394
We had to use a bit of force.
372
00:18:50,954 --> 00:18:52,874
Oh, yeah,
we weren't messing around at all.
373
00:18:52,954 --> 00:18:55,114
We had to do
what we had to do very quickly...
374
00:18:56,474 --> 00:18:59,274
In typical Brenden Abbott style,
375
00:18:59,354 --> 00:19:02,034
and when he did see his face...
376
00:19:02,114 --> 00:19:06,794
He saw this graze on his eye
and he made a comment.
377
00:19:06,874 --> 00:19:09,554
He said, "This is going to look good
in court tomorrow, isn't it, boys?"
378
00:19:09,634 --> 00:19:10,914
(CHUCKLES)
379
00:19:10,994 --> 00:19:13,354
Abbott with a huge bruise
on his face,
380
00:19:13,434 --> 00:19:14,714
members of his family weeping.
381
00:19:14,794 --> 00:19:19,754
I was very distressed
about the mark on his face
382
00:19:19,834 --> 00:19:21,354
because it was very clear
383
00:19:21,434 --> 00:19:24,034
that they've shoved his face
into the ground.
384
00:19:25,314 --> 00:19:29,034
I was angry with the police
and how they did things.
385
00:19:30,554 --> 00:19:32,474
And he said, "Diane,
they're just doing their job.
386
00:19:32,554 --> 00:19:33,674
"They've got a job
387
00:19:33,754 --> 00:19:36,034
"and their job is to catch a thief
and I'm the thief."
388
00:19:36,114 --> 00:19:39,314
Brenden James Abbott, 25,
of no fixed address
389
00:19:39,394 --> 00:19:43,034
faced a variety of serious charges
in the East Perth court today.
390
00:19:43,114 --> 00:19:46,354
Abbott was jailed for 10 years
with no minimum term.
391
00:19:46,434 --> 00:19:47,634
As Abbott left the court,
392
00:19:47,714 --> 00:19:50,514
he turned to Mr Justice Smith
and said, "Thank you.
393
00:19:50,594 --> 00:19:52,474
"You're a real gentleman."
394
00:19:52,554 --> 00:19:55,434
I wasn't surprised by the sentence
395
00:19:55,514 --> 00:19:56,914
because I think
396
00:19:56,994 --> 00:20:01,754
bank robbery's up there with murder
in sentence time.
397
00:20:13,674 --> 00:20:15,754
I think
when somebody goes to jail...
398
00:20:17,194 --> 00:20:21,234
There's always that concern
that they could be beaten up,
399
00:20:21,314 --> 00:20:23,834
raped, murdered.
400
00:20:29,074 --> 00:20:31,794
Fremantle prison's a very old prison
401
00:20:31,874 --> 00:20:34,994
and very archaic.
402
00:20:35,074 --> 00:20:37,874
So, when he went to jail,
403
00:20:37,954 --> 00:20:39,674
it is natural, I think,
404
00:20:39,754 --> 00:20:43,194
for any family member
to be concerned
405
00:20:43,274 --> 00:20:46,234
about where do we go from here,
you know?
406
00:20:58,234 --> 00:21:01,554
Australia's most notorious
bank robber and prison escapee
407
00:21:01,634 --> 00:21:03,954
has begun a last ditch bid
for freedom.
408
00:21:04,034 --> 00:21:05,674
The so-called Postcard Bandit,
409
00:21:05,754 --> 00:21:06,794
Brenden Abbott,
410
00:21:06,874 --> 00:21:08,634
has spent three decades in jail.
411
00:21:08,714 --> 00:21:10,634
The nation's longer serving prisoner
412
00:21:10,714 --> 00:21:13,194
who hasn't committed murder.
413
00:21:13,274 --> 00:21:15,074
His lawyer, Matthew Crowley, claims
414
00:21:15,154 --> 00:21:18,674
he was essentially no longer liable
to serve any more time.
415
00:21:22,634 --> 00:21:25,314
First thing I'll do with Dad,
probably go out and have dinner,
416
00:21:25,394 --> 00:21:26,474
I probably won't want to sleep.
417
00:21:26,554 --> 00:21:28,234
I'll just want to stay up
and keep talking.
418
00:21:31,034 --> 00:21:33,194
I hope he gets out
really, really soon.
419
00:21:37,914 --> 00:21:39,234
And I'm getting older as well too.
420
00:21:39,314 --> 00:21:41,674
So, you know, be good
to have him around a little bit.
421
00:21:44,754 --> 00:21:45,754
Yeah, I can see you.
422
00:21:45,834 --> 00:21:47,354
I've never got to speak to Dad
423
00:21:47,434 --> 00:21:49,434
or see Dad
424
00:21:49,514 --> 00:21:50,914
without someone else listening
425
00:21:50,994 --> 00:21:53,354
or someone else being present.
426
00:21:53,434 --> 00:21:55,354
It's always monitored
all the time.
427
00:21:55,434 --> 00:21:56,754
My camera's off, that's why.
428
00:22:01,994 --> 00:22:03,394
Oh, yeah? Tell me about 'em.
429
00:22:03,474 --> 00:22:05,074
Let's go.
430
00:22:07,754 --> 00:22:08,754
Yeah, yeah.
431
00:22:23,874 --> 00:22:25,994
What's your feeling
with the court case though?
432
00:22:26,074 --> 00:22:27,714
You feel like it's going to...
433
00:22:27,794 --> 00:22:28,754
What do you think?
434
00:22:28,834 --> 00:22:30,034
What are you leaning towards?
435
00:22:55,354 --> 00:22:57,034
It doesn't make any fucking sense.
436
00:22:57,114 --> 00:22:59,474
Sometimes if he makes a remark
437
00:22:59,554 --> 00:23:00,594
or says a certain thing,
438
00:23:00,674 --> 00:23:01,954
they'll just shut the call down.
439
00:23:02,834 --> 00:23:05,874
I've never known him to be out,
so it's normal to me.
440
00:23:05,954 --> 00:23:08,154
So, when he gets out,
that's going to be really strange.
441
00:23:12,154 --> 00:23:13,114
When I go visit Dad,
442
00:23:13,194 --> 00:23:15,674
it's just like
hanging out with a friend,
443
00:23:15,754 --> 00:23:17,674
just chilling out,
have a conversation,
444
00:23:17,754 --> 00:23:18,874
just have a bit of a laugh.
445
00:23:20,754 --> 00:23:23,234
The more I've gotten to get
to know him now and talk to him
446
00:23:23,314 --> 00:23:25,274
and we can have
mature conversations now,
447
00:23:26,914 --> 00:23:29,394
realise how similar we are.
448
00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:30,434
Kind of scary though,
449
00:23:30,514 --> 00:23:31,674
considering he's never been around
450
00:23:31,754 --> 00:23:33,954
and how much
me and him are very alike.
451
00:23:43,234 --> 00:23:44,794
G'day, g'day, g'day.
452
00:23:44,874 --> 00:23:47,234
How you feeling
about getting this tattoo?
453
00:23:47,314 --> 00:23:48,274
Oh, yeah.
454
00:23:48,354 --> 00:23:49,554
I can't wait to show Dad later.
455
00:23:49,634 --> 00:23:51,514
I think the postcard outline
is going to be,
456
00:23:51,594 --> 00:23:53,754
the poster stamp's going to be
the funny thing for him.
457
00:23:55,154 --> 00:23:56,794
It's like a little bank robber
with a money bag
458
00:23:56,874 --> 00:23:59,514
and put a pair
of aviator sunglasses on as well
459
00:23:59,594 --> 00:24:01,234
just to give it the look of Dad
460
00:24:01,314 --> 00:24:04,234
and then look at the postcard
stamp outline around it.
461
00:24:04,314 --> 00:24:05,514
What do you think
he's going to think
462
00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:06,554
when he sees that?
463
00:24:06,634 --> 00:24:08,034
He's going to think
I'm a fucking idiot.
464
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:09,754
(LAUGHTER)
But that's what it's about.
465
00:24:09,834 --> 00:24:10,874
He'll love it.
466
00:24:12,074 --> 00:24:13,314
As Mum always says to me, she goes,
467
00:24:13,394 --> 00:24:14,914
she goes, "Even though
Dad hasn't been around,"
468
00:24:14,994 --> 00:24:16,954
she goes, "you and him
are exactly the same as each other."
469
00:24:17,034 --> 00:24:17,994
They walk the same too.
470
00:24:18,074 --> 00:24:19,834
They walk the same,
smart-ass attitude.
471
00:24:19,914 --> 00:24:21,154
What do you mean they walk the same?
472
00:24:21,234 --> 00:24:22,514
They walk like on their tippy toes.
473
00:24:22,594 --> 00:24:23,994
(LAUGHTER)
474
00:24:24,074 --> 00:24:25,794
Expose me.
475
00:24:25,874 --> 00:24:27,994
Feel like you're going to do
a lot of cooking as well.
476
00:24:29,154 --> 00:24:30,274
Dad likes to cook, so do I.
477
00:24:30,354 --> 00:24:32,714
So, I think it might be something
we'll do together as well.
478
00:24:36,594 --> 00:24:38,954
What else does he like to do?
479
00:24:39,034 --> 00:24:40,074
Rob banks.
480
00:24:41,314 --> 00:24:42,554
(LAUGHS)
481
00:24:43,794 --> 00:24:44,874
(PHONE RINGS)
482
00:24:46,074 --> 00:24:47,274
It's Dad calling now actually.
483
00:24:50,514 --> 00:24:52,754
You are about to receive
a phone call from a prisoner
484
00:24:52,834 --> 00:24:54,354
at the Casuarina prison.
485
00:24:54,434 --> 00:24:56,234
Your conversation will be recorded.
486
00:24:56,314 --> 00:24:58,194
If you do not wish
to receive this call,
487
00:24:58,274 --> 00:24:59,474
please hang up now.
488
00:25:02,114 --> 00:25:03,074
Go ahead please.
489
00:25:03,154 --> 00:25:04,154
Hey, mate.
490
00:25:05,194 --> 00:25:06,194
Good. What's happening?
491
00:25:07,154 --> 00:25:10,554
Any updates on the lawyers
or anything for this court thing?
492
00:25:13,554 --> 00:25:14,554
Yeah.
493
00:25:23,994 --> 00:25:24,994
Yep.
494
00:25:34,714 --> 00:25:37,514
Yeah, that's why I don't
understand it, all good.
495
00:25:37,594 --> 00:25:39,354
I'll chat to you
in a couple of hours.
496
00:25:41,034 --> 00:25:43,114
No worries. I'll speak to ya then.
See you mate. Bye.
497
00:25:43,194 --> 00:25:44,154
10-minute calls.
498
00:25:44,234 --> 00:25:46,554
Whenever he rings,
before you know it, the call's over.
499
00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:52,074
Brenden Abbott's problem is that
the offences he committed,
500
00:25:52,154 --> 00:25:54,434
regardless of the fact
he didn't shoot anybody,
501
00:25:54,514 --> 00:25:56,594
they were very violent offences.
502
00:25:56,674 --> 00:25:58,034
That's the top of the scale.
503
00:25:58,114 --> 00:26:00,114
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
504
00:26:09,314 --> 00:26:10,754
My first memories of Brenden Abbott
505
00:26:10,834 --> 00:26:13,554
was at that time
I was on the armed robbery squad.
506
00:26:13,634 --> 00:26:15,794
He'd escaped
from a suburban police station
507
00:26:17,674 --> 00:26:20,154
and he was suspected of doing
a number of armed robberies,
508
00:26:20,234 --> 00:26:22,674
particularly one in Belmont
where he came in through the roof.
509
00:26:24,194 --> 00:26:25,154
On the ground!
510
00:26:25,234 --> 00:26:28,354
He was charged at that stage
with the robbery at Belmont
511
00:26:28,434 --> 00:26:29,394
to walk into a bank
512
00:26:29,474 --> 00:26:31,194
and shove a loaded shotgun
513
00:26:31,274 --> 00:26:33,754
into somebody's face and say,
514
00:26:33,834 --> 00:26:35,354
"Give me your money
or you're going to die,"
515
00:26:35,434 --> 00:26:37,874
he was going to be in jail
for a long, long time.
516
00:26:42,874 --> 00:26:44,634
Anyone who's been
to Fremantle Prison,
517
00:26:44,714 --> 00:26:47,994
now, when you go and see it
as a historical thing,
518
00:26:48,074 --> 00:26:49,274
the conditions in there
519
00:26:49,354 --> 00:26:50,354
were terrible.
520
00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:51,714
Absolutely terrible,
521
00:26:51,794 --> 00:26:52,874
locked up like that.
522
00:27:15,674 --> 00:27:16,914
But let's not be too soft on them,
523
00:27:16,994 --> 00:27:19,154
there's some
pretty terrible criminals in there.
524
00:27:19,234 --> 00:27:22,794
People have murdered and raped
and done some terrible things.
525
00:27:22,874 --> 00:27:24,554
So, do we have any sympathy?
526
00:27:24,634 --> 00:27:28,474
No, but the reality is that
527
00:27:28,554 --> 00:27:30,114
you put people in those conditions,
528
00:27:30,194 --> 00:27:34,474
you're going to have to deal with
things like riots and escapes.
529
00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:39,154
The full-scale riot
530
00:27:39,234 --> 00:27:41,554
has broken out tonight
at Fremantle jail
531
00:27:41,634 --> 00:27:44,154
and the century-old prison
is on fire.
532
00:27:44,234 --> 00:27:47,154
There are reports that the rioters
have taken some hostages.
533
00:27:48,434 --> 00:27:49,434
(SIREN WAILS)
534
00:27:49,514 --> 00:27:51,634
Two of the prison guards
had had an altercation
535
00:27:51,714 --> 00:27:53,154
with one of the prisoners.
536
00:27:54,234 --> 00:27:57,034
The allegation was that they bashed
this particular prisoner
537
00:27:57,114 --> 00:27:59,354
and that went around the prison
like wildfire.
538
00:27:59,434 --> 00:28:02,234
(HELICOPTER WHIRS)
539
00:28:02,314 --> 00:28:04,674
There was a whole group of prisoners
that resisted
540
00:28:04,754 --> 00:28:07,154
and then attacked the prison guard.
541
00:28:07,234 --> 00:28:09,794
135 inmates
took control of a cell block
542
00:28:09,874 --> 00:28:12,474
and held five
prison officers hostage.
543
00:28:12,554 --> 00:28:14,074
Locals and former inmate
544
00:28:14,154 --> 00:28:16,594
blame inhumane conditions
in the jail
545
00:28:16,674 --> 00:28:18,434
and today's heat for the riot.
546
00:28:28,154 --> 00:28:30,834
You know, any opportunity
to get rid of those conditions,
547
00:28:30,914 --> 00:28:33,634
either by burning it down,
they're going to take.
548
00:28:41,034 --> 00:28:43,514
When the prison riot occurred,
549
00:28:43,594 --> 00:28:45,674
I was one of the senior negotiators
550
00:28:45,754 --> 00:28:47,394
in the police department
at that time.
551
00:28:53,194 --> 00:28:55,594
When I first got here,
this place was all on fire.
552
00:28:55,674 --> 00:28:57,074
We couldn't come out through there.
553
00:28:59,034 --> 00:29:02,594
We walked around onto the hill
and looked down into the yard.
554
00:29:05,194 --> 00:29:06,714
It was just absolute pandemonium.
555
00:29:06,794 --> 00:29:10,474
There were five wardens
that had been taken hostages.
556
00:29:10,554 --> 00:29:12,154
One of them
was fairly badly injured.
557
00:29:14,194 --> 00:29:16,834
Abbott was one of the first ones
to get up on the roof over here,
558
00:29:16,914 --> 00:29:18,514
the roof of the exercise yard.
559
00:29:21,234 --> 00:29:23,634
Mainly they were acting as lookouts.
560
00:29:23,714 --> 00:29:25,434
He was also one of the ones
with the group
561
00:29:25,514 --> 00:29:28,514
that was surrounding the hostages.
562
00:29:28,594 --> 00:29:31,754
I then start to negotiate with him
to see what it was they wanted.
563
00:29:31,834 --> 00:29:33,834
The prison superintendent
said to me,
564
00:29:33,914 --> 00:29:35,594
"Don't tell 'em you're a copper."
565
00:29:35,674 --> 00:29:37,914
And I said,
"You've got to be joking.
566
00:29:37,994 --> 00:29:39,834
"I said,
I've put half the bastards in here."
567
00:29:41,354 --> 00:29:42,474
We negotiated
568
00:29:42,554 --> 00:29:45,914
that we would exchange
cartons of cigarettes
569
00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:47,674
and then they said
they wanted something to eat.
570
00:29:47,754 --> 00:29:48,714
Well, they brought in
571
00:29:48,794 --> 00:29:51,234
these big plastic dust bins
full of beans
572
00:29:51,314 --> 00:29:53,714
and a big plastic dust bin
full of toast.
573
00:29:53,794 --> 00:29:56,234
So, then for about
the next 20 minutes,
574
00:29:56,314 --> 00:29:57,834
it was pretty silent in the yard
575
00:29:57,914 --> 00:29:59,554
because they all had their beans
on toast.
576
00:30:02,594 --> 00:30:04,554
Brenden was one of the rioters.
577
00:30:04,634 --> 00:30:06,834
He'd argue against that,
578
00:30:06,914 --> 00:30:08,514
but it was well known
he was one of them.
579
00:30:10,594 --> 00:30:12,914
He was quite clearly
part of that core group.
580
00:30:14,874 --> 00:30:17,874
He was always looking
for an opportunity.
581
00:30:17,954 --> 00:30:21,434
I've no doubt, when he was climbing
on the roof of the exercise yard,
582
00:30:21,514 --> 00:30:23,754
he was in a position to actually see
583
00:30:23,834 --> 00:30:26,514
what the perimeters were
around the prison.
584
00:30:27,794 --> 00:30:32,474
Brenden Abbott would've been looking
for opportunities to get out.
585
00:30:32,554 --> 00:30:34,194
I think his planning
would've started
586
00:30:34,274 --> 00:30:37,314
the day that they locked him up
back here after the riot finished.
587
00:30:46,954 --> 00:30:48,394
Well, the aftermath of the riot
588
00:30:48,474 --> 00:30:50,554
was all of the main protagonists
589
00:30:50,634 --> 00:30:52,394
were all interviewed by the police,
590
00:30:52,474 --> 00:30:54,874
and it turned into a massive trial.
591
00:30:55,954 --> 00:30:59,074
The trial itself
went on for months and months.
592
00:30:59,154 --> 00:31:01,634
I sat around the Supreme Court
for weeks waiting to give evidence,
593
00:31:01,714 --> 00:31:03,594
and every morning,
594
00:31:03,674 --> 00:31:05,634
Brenden Abbott
and all the rest of them
595
00:31:05,714 --> 00:31:06,794
would be brought in...
596
00:31:09,154 --> 00:31:12,074
And of course
the photographic evidence
597
00:31:12,154 --> 00:31:13,874
and all of the exhibits
would be handed
598
00:31:13,954 --> 00:31:15,794
to the various prisoners
to look at and everything.
599
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:18,194
They had
aerial photographs of the prison
600
00:31:18,274 --> 00:31:20,394
and it was almost like
having a Google map.
601
00:31:43,874 --> 00:31:45,314
Brenden Abbott
was ultimately charged
602
00:31:45,394 --> 00:31:46,914
and convicted of those offences.
603
00:31:49,594 --> 00:31:51,114
When Brenden got charged
for the riot
604
00:31:51,194 --> 00:31:52,194
and they added the sentence
605
00:31:52,274 --> 00:31:54,394
on top of
what he was already serving,
606
00:31:54,474 --> 00:31:56,554
I was really surprised by that.
607
00:31:57,754 --> 00:32:00,594
He was going to be in jail
for a long, long time,
608
00:32:00,674 --> 00:32:02,914
which I think led
to his subsequent escape
609
00:32:02,994 --> 00:32:04,554
later on down the track.
610
00:32:04,634 --> 00:32:07,154
'Cause it was very meticulous
in what he did.
611
00:32:07,234 --> 00:32:09,394
Given Brenden's cognitive ability,
612
00:32:09,474 --> 00:32:12,434
he's mentally switched on.
613
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:14,794
I think if the system
had have picked that up earlier,
614
00:32:14,874 --> 00:32:17,234
they could have changed
his direction dramatically.
615
00:32:25,714 --> 00:32:27,994
My first memory growing up...
616
00:32:31,274 --> 00:32:34,394
Brenden was obsessed
with knowing how things worked.
617
00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,474
(MACHINES WHIRS)
618
00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:43,674
Brenden never had any problems
619
00:32:43,754 --> 00:32:45,514
with his schooling or anything,
620
00:32:45,594 --> 00:32:47,114
and he was always a smart one.
621
00:32:49,234 --> 00:32:51,354
He'd take things to pieces
to see how they worked
622
00:32:51,434 --> 00:32:53,434
and put 'em back together.
623
00:32:53,514 --> 00:32:55,594
I don't know how old he was
when I said to him one day,
624
00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:57,434
I said, "When you start going out
with a female,"
625
00:32:57,514 --> 00:32:59,034
I said,
"are you going to take her to pieces
626
00:32:59,114 --> 00:33:00,714
"and try and put her back together?"
627
00:33:00,794 --> 00:33:02,514
And he said, "Mum,"
628
00:33:02,594 --> 00:33:03,594
and I said, "No."
629
00:33:03,674 --> 00:33:05,034
I said, "Well,"
630
00:33:05,114 --> 00:33:07,434
but there was nothing
that he couldn't take apart.
631
00:33:08,594 --> 00:33:09,874
I remember when Brenden was 13,
632
00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:12,474
my mum bought us
a boombox back then.
633
00:33:14,234 --> 00:33:16,554
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
634
00:33:16,634 --> 00:33:18,074
And that night...
635
00:33:22,954 --> 00:33:24,034
My mum walked in the bedroom
636
00:33:24,114 --> 00:33:26,234
and he had the whole thing
pulled apart on the bed...
637
00:33:27,354 --> 00:33:28,674
And put it back together again...
638
00:33:29,794 --> 00:33:30,754
And it worked.
639
00:33:30,834 --> 00:33:32,794
But that he enjoyed
doing that stuff.
640
00:33:34,154 --> 00:33:37,114
So, he's always had
a very inquisitive mind
641
00:33:37,194 --> 00:33:39,234
when it comes
to the operations of things.
642
00:33:42,074 --> 00:33:45,074
(UP-TEMPO MUSIC)
643
00:33:58,794 --> 00:33:59,834
Hey, how are ya?
644
00:34:02,034 --> 00:34:03,034
Good. Good.
645
00:34:05,754 --> 00:34:07,914
Oh, do you want to see it now
or you want to?
646
00:34:07,994 --> 00:34:09,194
I'll give you a quick little look.
647
00:34:09,274 --> 00:34:10,754
Fuck it. Whatever.
It's right in the ankle.
648
00:34:10,834 --> 00:34:12,594
You'll have
a bit of a laugh out of this one.
649
00:34:14,434 --> 00:34:15,914
Hold on,
I've got to drop the camera down.
650
00:34:15,994 --> 00:34:17,034
One second.
651
00:34:26,714 --> 00:34:28,794
So, Sammy's sister changed it
to a bank robber.
652
00:34:28,874 --> 00:34:30,594
Just put the little postcards,
653
00:34:30,674 --> 00:34:33,474
little postcards sticker
around the side too.
654
00:34:33,554 --> 00:34:34,994
And then it's got
your aviator sunglasses,
655
00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:37,074
and a little moustache that you had.
656
00:34:37,154 --> 00:34:38,834
(LAUGHS)
657
00:34:39,954 --> 00:34:41,434
Sammy.
658
00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:43,194
Come say hello.
659
00:34:50,674 --> 00:34:52,194
Hello, how are you?
660
00:34:54,314 --> 00:34:56,194
May is the one
that did the tattoo for me today.
661
00:34:57,754 --> 00:34:58,914
Yeah.
662
00:34:58,994 --> 00:35:00,834
I had to look at
photo references of you
663
00:35:00,914 --> 00:35:02,354
to get some inspiration.
664
00:35:06,274 --> 00:35:07,474
I like your hair...
665
00:35:12,034 --> 00:35:13,554
Show us the side, show us the back.
666
00:35:16,834 --> 00:35:17,994
That's my head for sure.
667
00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:19,834
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
668
00:35:19,914 --> 00:35:21,394
(LAUGHTER)
669
00:35:24,434 --> 00:35:25,634
No, I don't think so.
670
00:35:27,194 --> 00:35:29,634
They cut it out.
Aw.
671
00:35:29,714 --> 00:35:31,234
That sucks.
Can't even say bye.
672
00:35:31,314 --> 00:35:33,114
No, they cut it out
'cause they came on the camera,
673
00:35:33,194 --> 00:35:35,154
I think that's probably why.
674
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:36,834
That sucks.
675
00:35:36,914 --> 00:35:39,514
It's my partner
talking to her on the camera
676
00:35:39,594 --> 00:35:42,434
and it's not harming,
harming anyone at all.
677
00:35:42,514 --> 00:35:44,234
It makes me angry
when stuff like this happens
678
00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:47,994
actually frustrates me
and it plays in my mind for ages.
679
00:35:48,074 --> 00:35:49,954
It just sucks
having a family member,
680
00:35:50,034 --> 00:35:51,394
someone you care about...
681
00:35:52,714 --> 00:35:54,874
someone else's telling you
what you can and can't do with them.
682
00:35:54,954 --> 00:35:56,034
28 years, it's shit.
683
00:35:56,114 --> 00:35:59,234
I'm sick of playing these games,
but at the same time,
684
00:35:59,314 --> 00:36:00,354
it's all I've known...
685
00:36:02,114 --> 00:36:03,714
that I'm just like,
it gets a bit frustrating.
686
00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:04,834
But it is, what it is.
687
00:36:15,354 --> 00:36:17,154
In Fremantle prison,
688
00:36:17,234 --> 00:36:20,794
Brenden had got himself working
in the prison tailor shop.
689
00:36:28,354 --> 00:36:29,914
He knew a number of things.
690
00:36:29,994 --> 00:36:32,674
That there was an area
across the roof
691
00:36:32,754 --> 00:36:34,474
that was very vulnerable,
692
00:36:34,554 --> 00:36:36,194
so, anything he could do
693
00:36:36,274 --> 00:36:39,194
to lessen the reaction
from the guards
694
00:36:39,274 --> 00:36:42,234
to make them unsure
of who they were dealing with.
695
00:36:42,314 --> 00:36:45,794
Working in the tailor shop
gave him access to making uniforms.
696
00:36:45,874 --> 00:36:47,234
So, he obviously came up
with the idea,
697
00:36:47,314 --> 00:36:48,354
let's make some uniforms
698
00:36:48,434 --> 00:36:51,514
that appear like prison guards
699
00:36:51,594 --> 00:36:52,554
that will give them
700
00:36:52,634 --> 00:36:54,274
a moment of hesitation
for the guards
701
00:36:54,354 --> 00:36:56,834
to get across the roof
and get to the wall.
702
00:36:56,914 --> 00:36:59,354
If they had gone across there
in their prison greens,
703
00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:00,514
they would've been shot.
704
00:37:02,514 --> 00:37:05,194
The tailor shop
normally had a prison guard,
705
00:37:05,274 --> 00:37:06,314
he was the tailor.
706
00:37:49,194 --> 00:37:50,634
To make their escape,
707
00:37:50,714 --> 00:37:52,994
they had to distract the overseer,
708
00:37:53,074 --> 00:37:54,754
the tailor
who was in charge of them.
709
00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:30,834
You're in a room
full of sewing machines,
710
00:38:30,914 --> 00:38:32,594
making a lot of noise.
711
00:38:32,674 --> 00:38:35,114
That covered the sound
of cutting through the bars.
712
00:38:35,194 --> 00:38:37,274
And so, they had free run
while that was happening.
713
00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:46,074
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
714
00:38:56,954 --> 00:38:58,354
Come on, hurry up.
715
00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:02,674
Get moving, come on.
716
00:39:08,034 --> 00:39:09,194
The guards hesitated,
717
00:39:09,274 --> 00:39:11,554
gave them enough time
to scramble across
718
00:39:11,634 --> 00:39:13,234
and over the wall.
719
00:39:18,074 --> 00:39:19,954
And somehow
Brenden was able to retain
720
00:39:20,034 --> 00:39:21,314
some of the civilian clothes
721
00:39:21,394 --> 00:39:24,634
and they aided him
in his ultimate escape.
722
00:39:27,914 --> 00:39:30,234
They left one behind
who fell down the gap...
723
00:39:31,954 --> 00:39:33,154
But two got away.
724
00:39:35,954 --> 00:39:37,154
Abbott and Reynolds.
725
00:39:39,954 --> 00:39:42,434
And headed off
to 5.5 years of freedom.
726
00:39:43,874 --> 00:39:45,474
That was a pretty smart escape.
727
00:39:45,554 --> 00:39:47,914
It was one of the more,
728
00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:49,874
I suppose, celebrated escapes,
729
00:39:49,954 --> 00:39:52,434
if you could say that,
from Fremantle Prison.
730
00:39:52,514 --> 00:39:54,714
James Abbott
and Aaron Raymond Reynolds
731
00:39:54,794 --> 00:39:56,194
sneak out of a workshop,
732
00:39:56,274 --> 00:40:00,194
climb onto a roof,
and leap 3m to freedom.
733
00:40:00,274 --> 00:40:02,074
When Brenden
broke out of Fremantle prison,
734
00:40:02,154 --> 00:40:04,994
my first thought
735
00:40:05,074 --> 00:40:08,874
was the police will kill him.
736
00:40:08,954 --> 00:40:10,674
If the police see him,
they're gonna shoot him.
737
00:40:10,754 --> 00:40:12,114
And that was my greatest fear.
738
00:40:12,194 --> 00:40:14,874
My greatest fear was that
somebody was gonna kill him.
739
00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:16,714
If someone escapes from custody,
740
00:40:16,794 --> 00:40:19,234
whether it be a prison
or from a police station,
741
00:40:19,314 --> 00:40:23,194
there's a lot of effort
put into it to recover that person.
742
00:40:23,274 --> 00:40:25,674
So, if someone like
Abbott was on the run,
743
00:40:25,754 --> 00:40:29,594
then they'd be all stops
pulled out to try and recover.
744
00:40:29,674 --> 00:40:33,114
Abbott, if he's confronted
at a scene of a robbery,
745
00:40:33,194 --> 00:40:34,554
then he will shoot it out.
746
00:40:34,634 --> 00:40:37,194
The guns are loaded
and he's prepared to use them.
747
00:40:37,274 --> 00:40:38,914
They would say
748
00:40:38,994 --> 00:40:42,874
he's highly dangerous
and would shoot if confronted,
749
00:40:42,954 --> 00:40:44,154
so, don't confront him.
750
00:40:44,234 --> 00:40:47,194
And that used to
really cause me a lot of grief
751
00:40:47,274 --> 00:40:48,474
because I actually thought
752
00:40:48,554 --> 00:40:50,114
that the police
were just saying that
753
00:40:50,194 --> 00:40:52,114
maybe they were
telling the media that
754
00:40:52,194 --> 00:40:53,874
because that would
justify them shooting him
755
00:40:53,954 --> 00:40:55,034
when they caught him.
756
00:40:58,354 --> 00:40:59,394
Eventually,
757
00:40:59,474 --> 00:41:03,274
and even if it takes us
two months or two years,
758
00:41:03,354 --> 00:41:04,594
he'll definitely come unstuck.
759
00:41:12,714 --> 00:41:13,794
(DOOR KNOCKS)
760
00:41:17,314 --> 00:41:18,474
Good morning. How are you?
761
00:41:18,554 --> 00:41:19,994
Good, how are you?
Good, thanks.
762
00:41:20,074 --> 00:41:21,354
Can I come in?
Yes, Come in.
763
00:41:28,714 --> 00:41:29,954
Morning.
Morning.
764
00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:32,914
How are we?
Yeah. Good, good.
765
00:41:32,994 --> 00:41:34,154
How are you feeling?
766
00:41:34,234 --> 00:41:35,194
Feeling alright.
767
00:41:35,274 --> 00:41:36,474
Yeah.
Pretty nervous.
768
00:41:36,554 --> 00:41:38,194
What time
did you guys get in last night?
769
00:41:38,274 --> 00:41:41,954
Pretty late. I think we flew in...
Flight was delayed.
770
00:41:42,034 --> 00:41:44,874
Flew in about 11:15, 12:00
I think it was.
771
00:41:44,954 --> 00:41:46,794
Got to the hotel,
772
00:41:46,874 --> 00:41:50,554
parked the car, came upstairs,
showered, straight to sleep.
773
00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:51,874
Had about...
774
00:41:51,954 --> 00:41:53,114
Probably had about four hours sleep.
775
00:41:53,194 --> 00:41:54,194
But yeah.
776
00:41:54,274 --> 00:41:55,634
How are you feeling, Sammy?
777
00:41:55,714 --> 00:41:57,434
Um, excited.
778
00:41:57,514 --> 00:42:00,594
Excited for James
and excited for him to get out.
779
00:42:03,194 --> 00:42:04,874
I had a call with Dad
this morning beforehand,
780
00:42:04,954 --> 00:42:07,914
so, he just gave me a slight rundown
of everything that's gone on.
781
00:42:07,994 --> 00:42:09,914
So, he spoke
with the lawyers yesterday.
782
00:42:09,994 --> 00:42:11,394
They said that if they get up
783
00:42:11,474 --> 00:42:13,954
on one of the main matters
they're going for,
784
00:42:14,034 --> 00:42:15,394
that'll be everything.
785
00:42:15,474 --> 00:42:16,634
That'll be end of it, Dad will walk.
786
00:42:16,714 --> 00:42:19,474
If not, then I have to appeal things
and go further.
787
00:42:19,554 --> 00:42:21,754
So, at the moment,
it's set for two days,
788
00:42:21,834 --> 00:42:22,834
potentially could go for three.
789
00:42:22,914 --> 00:42:24,674
Ready?
790
00:42:24,754 --> 00:42:26,114
Yep. Alright, let's go.
791
00:42:26,194 --> 00:42:27,234
Let's go?
Yep.
792
00:42:30,794 --> 00:42:31,834
A bit nervous today.
793
00:42:32,994 --> 00:42:34,074
The anxiety's up there.
794
00:42:44,274 --> 00:42:45,274
He's a cheeky bugger,
795
00:42:45,354 --> 00:42:47,514
sending postcards to the coppers.
796
00:42:47,594 --> 00:42:49,074
Thumbing his nose at the police.
797
00:42:49,154 --> 00:42:50,714
But he wasn't.
798
00:42:51,834 --> 00:42:54,634
The Postcard Bandit
was really a myth.
799
00:42:54,714 --> 00:42:56,554
One of Australia's most wanted men
800
00:42:56,634 --> 00:42:58,274
has been arrested on the Gold Coast.
801
00:42:58,354 --> 00:42:59,954
He was too hard to hang onto.
802
00:43:00,034 --> 00:43:01,354
It was a daring breakout.
803
00:43:01,434 --> 00:43:02,554
They cut their prison bars
804
00:43:02,634 --> 00:43:04,714
with diamond encrusted angel wire.
805
00:43:04,794 --> 00:43:07,154
To escape
from a maximum-security prison twice
806
00:43:07,234 --> 00:43:08,514
is the stuff that myths are made of.
807
00:43:08,594 --> 00:43:09,554
(SIREN WAILS)
808
00:43:09,634 --> 00:43:10,594
This latest incident
809
00:43:10,674 --> 00:43:12,194
is an embarrassment
for the government.
810
00:43:12,274 --> 00:43:13,274
Where is Brenden Abbott?
811
00:43:13,354 --> 00:43:17,194
Police are now planning
a national task force to catch him.
812
00:43:17,274 --> 00:43:20,034
You just can't be that lucky
for that long.
813
00:43:20,114 --> 00:43:22,074
The man
no jail has been able to hold,
814
00:43:22,154 --> 00:43:23,914
finally back in custody.
815
00:43:23,994 --> 00:43:26,354
This 37-year-old will be an old man
816
00:43:26,434 --> 00:43:28,594
before he ever sets foot
back in the community.
817
00:43:31,594 --> 00:43:34,434
Abbott spent
the best part of ten years
818
00:43:34,514 --> 00:43:36,034
in solitary confinement.
819
00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:38,954
And now
that's a pretty extraordinary thing.
820
00:43:39,034 --> 00:43:40,794
23 hours a day
locked down in your cell,
821
00:43:40,874 --> 00:43:43,754
that would be enough
to drive anyone insane.
822
00:43:43,834 --> 00:43:45,194
You've got him in maximum security.
823
00:43:45,274 --> 00:43:46,714
Why are you doing this?
824
00:43:49,914 --> 00:43:52,074
To me that was just
gutless of the authorities.
825
00:43:52,154 --> 00:43:54,034
(ALARM BUZZES)
826
00:43:54,114 --> 00:43:55,234
(PHONE RINGS)
827
00:43:57,154 --> 00:43:58,874
Can you hear me, yeah?
Yeah. Yeah.
828
00:43:58,954 --> 00:44:00,074
(CHUCKLES)
829
00:44:00,154 --> 00:44:02,834
How do you get through that
to not be crazy?
830
00:44:02,914 --> 00:44:03,914
The law.
831
00:44:03,994 --> 00:44:05,314
You just got
to keep your mind occupied
832
00:44:05,394 --> 00:44:06,794
or otherwise you'd go loopy.
833
00:44:08,434 --> 00:44:10,234
This case is set to be complex.
834
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:11,394
If successful,
835
00:44:11,474 --> 00:44:13,754
the serial fugitive
can walk out of prison
836
00:44:13,834 --> 00:44:16,754
for the first time
in almost 30 years.
837
00:44:16,834 --> 00:44:18,074
Do you think it's fair
that he's spent
838
00:44:18,154 --> 00:44:19,434
more than some murderers?
839
00:44:19,514 --> 00:44:21,554
He knew
what he was getting involved in.
840
00:44:21,634 --> 00:44:23,554
You do the crime,
you serve the time.
841
00:44:23,634 --> 00:44:24,594
He's getting older.
842
00:44:24,674 --> 00:44:26,394
I don't know
how much longer I got with him.
843
00:44:27,714 --> 00:44:29,194
Everybody's just waiting
for the decision
844
00:44:29,274 --> 00:44:30,434
to come back from the judge.
845
00:44:30,514 --> 00:44:33,434
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
846
00:44:33,514 --> 00:44:36,474
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