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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,131 --> 00:00:08,484 This week on "Vice," 2 00:00:08,509 --> 00:00:12,544 a new era of cyber warfare. 3 00:00:12,646 --> 00:00:15,948 What we're talking about here is a total revolution 4 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:18,917 of the whole concept of war. 5 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:21,986 What's the significance of the military being a part of all of this? 6 00:00:22,088 --> 00:00:26,057 The Israeli Army is the largest HR Organization in the world. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,660 And then, Japan re-arms itself 8 00:00:28,763 --> 00:00:30,661 for the first time since World War II. 9 00:00:30,687 --> 00:00:32,615 There are hundreds of people here. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,667 They're all pissed off that China keeps encroaching on Japanese territory. 11 00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:40,104 If China really goes for the military action, 12 00:00:40,207 --> 00:00:43,107 the cost they are going to pay is very bloody. 13 00:00:50,317 --> 00:00:51,482 Go, go, go! 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,887 We are not animals! 15 00:01:07,367 --> 00:01:09,935 Cyber attacks have gone from a vague threat 16 00:01:10,037 --> 00:01:12,004 to one of the most urgent security problems 17 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:13,337 in the United States. 18 00:01:13,441 --> 00:01:16,408 During the 2016 presidential election, 19 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:17,775 the Russian government hacked 20 00:01:17,878 --> 00:01:19,710 the Democratic National Committee 21 00:01:19,813 --> 00:01:21,146 and used the stolen e-mails 22 00:01:21,248 --> 00:01:23,481 to change the course of the campaign. 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,603 And just this May, 24 00:01:24,652 --> 00:01:26,951 the largest ransomware attack in history 25 00:01:27,054 --> 00:01:29,420 shut down hundreds of thousands of computer systems 26 00:01:29,522 --> 00:01:30,722 around the world. 27 00:01:30,825 --> 00:01:33,891 More than 150 countries were hit by the attack, 28 00:01:33,993 --> 00:01:36,929 and now are scrambling to fix their defenses. 29 00:01:37,031 --> 00:01:38,129 And while they do so, 30 00:01:38,231 --> 00:01:39,698 one country has emerged 31 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:42,200 Israel. 32 00:01:49,909 --> 00:01:52,277 We've come to an underground car park just outside Tel Aviv 33 00:01:52,378 --> 00:01:54,979 to meet someone who's gonna show us how easy it is 34 00:01:55,081 --> 00:01:58,950 to launch a cyber attack on almost any modern car. 35 00:01:59,052 --> 00:02:00,519 Just like any connective computer, 36 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:04,088 everything that you connect to the internet is vulnerable at the end. 37 00:02:04,191 --> 00:02:07,759 So, this is true the same way to cars. 38 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:09,694 Ziv is using a wireless adapter 39 00:02:09,796 --> 00:02:13,231 that enables internet access to hack into the car's WiFi, 40 00:02:13,334 --> 00:02:16,001 which is now standard on new vehicles. 41 00:02:16,103 --> 00:02:17,836 What's weird about this little experiment we're doing 42 00:02:17,937 --> 00:02:22,373 is that I've got no idea what it is that he's gonna be trying on us. 43 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:24,042 So, we're gonna start small, 44 00:02:24,145 --> 00:02:26,078 playing a bit with her windows. 45 00:02:28,716 --> 00:02:31,716 He's been putting the windows up and down. 46 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:34,686 Let's play a bit with her blinkers. 47 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:36,221 The left indicator's coming on. 48 00:02:36,323 --> 00:02:38,423 The right indicator's coming on. 49 00:02:38,526 --> 00:02:40,324 So, now he's messing with the miles-an-hour thing. 50 00:02:40,426 --> 00:02:43,262 It's going all the way up to 220 kilometers an hour. 51 00:02:43,364 --> 00:02:46,230 The revometer's going all over the place. 52 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:49,935 This would freak you out if you didn't know it was being done on purpose. 53 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:56,375 Now he... Now it's completely disabled. 54 00:02:56,477 --> 00:02:58,343 "Engine malfunction." 55 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:00,862 The fact that he can do all of this means he can very easily 56 00:03:00,937 --> 00:03:04,004 just ram this straight into that wall in front of us. 57 00:03:05,051 --> 00:03:07,853 That experience and the experiment we just did then 58 00:03:07,955 --> 00:03:10,389 is probably the first time where I've thought 59 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:13,692 hacking could physically cause harm to me. 60 00:03:13,794 --> 00:03:15,193 How many cars in the world 61 00:03:15,295 --> 00:03:18,997 do you think you could do the same thing to right now? 62 00:03:19,098 --> 00:03:21,567 Today, I would say that most of them 63 00:03:21,669 --> 00:03:25,236 are vulnerable or susceptible to hackers' attacks. 64 00:03:25,338 --> 00:03:27,838 Though there aren't any cars made in Israel, 65 00:03:27,942 --> 00:03:31,175 the world's top auto security companies are Israeli, 66 00:03:31,277 --> 00:03:33,545 and they're all part of a wave of cyber innovation 67 00:03:33,646 --> 00:03:35,514 that's sweeping across the country. 68 00:03:35,615 --> 00:03:38,650 Israel's become a world leader in cyber technology, 69 00:03:38,752 --> 00:03:40,117 and all of the Israeli companies 70 00:03:40,221 --> 00:03:42,120 who are at the forefront of that revolution 71 00:03:42,223 --> 00:03:43,854 are inside this building. 72 00:03:49,263 --> 00:03:51,629 There are over 10,000 people here 73 00:03:51,731 --> 00:03:53,031 from all over the world, 74 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:55,834 and what many of them have come here to hear 75 00:03:55,936 --> 00:03:57,168 is Benjamin Netanyahu, 76 00:03:57,271 --> 00:03:58,569 the Israeli Prime Minister, 77 00:03:58,671 --> 00:03:59,972 laying out why his country 78 00:04:00,074 --> 00:04:02,407 is a global leader in the field. 79 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:27,733 In fact, Israel receives 80 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:30,002 more venture capital funds per person 81 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:32,336 than any other country in the world, 82 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:35,439 and has become known as the Startup Nation. 83 00:04:35,542 --> 00:04:38,409 To understand how Israel became a global leader in this field, 84 00:04:38,512 --> 00:04:40,411 we spoke with Israeli journalist 85 00:04:40,514 --> 00:04:42,346 and senior defense correspondent 86 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:43,882 Alon Ben-David. 87 00:04:43,983 --> 00:04:46,050 It's a very small community 88 00:04:46,153 --> 00:04:47,886 that is practically an island. 89 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:50,389 You are completely surrounded with nations 90 00:04:50,490 --> 00:04:52,391 that you cannot cross through. 91 00:04:52,492 --> 00:04:54,358 Israel developed creativity 92 00:04:54,461 --> 00:04:57,461 to compensate for its lack of resources. 93 00:04:57,564 --> 00:05:00,031 And it is a country that needs to conduct 94 00:05:00,134 --> 00:05:02,466 constant surveillance on their neighbors. 95 00:05:02,569 --> 00:05:05,069 As a country which is under constant 96 00:05:05,172 --> 00:05:07,538 annihilation threat by other nations, 97 00:05:07,641 --> 00:05:09,507 Israel understood many years ago 98 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:12,343 that going into wars and launching massive military operations, 99 00:05:12,446 --> 00:05:15,279 it bears almost unbearable prices. 100 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:19,216 First, in human lives, in terms of economic costs, 101 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,485 in terms of international legitimacy. 102 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:23,555 So cyber was the right answer 103 00:05:23,656 --> 00:05:25,856 for many things that Israel needed to do. 104 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,627 Do you think Israel's... 105 00:05:28,728 --> 00:05:32,096 private cybersecurity industry 106 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:36,768 is essentially the child of the Israeli military's affairs? 107 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:40,137 Oh, absolutely. The whole of the Israeli cyber industry 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,173 relies on knowledge gathered 109 00:05:42,276 --> 00:05:44,509 by people serving in Israel's different 110 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:47,446 security agencies in the military. 111 00:05:47,548 --> 00:05:50,548 Military service is mandatory for most Israeli citizens, 112 00:05:50,651 --> 00:05:53,552 and one of the largest parts of the Israeli Defense Force 113 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:55,786 is its Cyber and Intelligence units. 114 00:05:55,889 --> 00:05:59,990 These entire units, and some 20,000 cyber soldiers, 115 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:02,661 are now being relocated to Beersheeba, 116 00:06:02,762 --> 00:06:04,696 a desert city which is quickly becoming 117 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:06,997 Israel's Silicon Valley. 118 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,668 This military-industrial cyber complex 119 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:13,271 is said to be the largest infrastructure project in Israel's history. 120 00:06:13,374 --> 00:06:14,906 We spoke with the CEO 121 00:06:15,007 --> 00:06:17,542 behind this $5 billion undertaking, 122 00:06:17,644 --> 00:06:19,677 Roni Zehavi. 123 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:20,879 What's the significance 124 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:23,014 of the military being a part of all of this? 125 00:06:23,117 --> 00:06:26,016 Because going to the service is compulsory, 126 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,886 you can look at the Israeli Army 127 00:06:27,987 --> 00:06:30,689 as the largest HR Organization in the world. 128 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:34,625 Because, practically speaking, they'll start scanning 129 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:36,995 the layers of the Israeli population 130 00:06:37,096 --> 00:06:39,831 and position the right people in the right places, 131 00:06:39,932 --> 00:06:41,500 especially in elite units. 132 00:06:41,601 --> 00:06:44,369 So, if you think about it, you take somebody who is 18 years of age, 133 00:06:44,471 --> 00:06:48,973 and you get them exposed to the state-of-the-art technology, 134 00:06:49,076 --> 00:06:52,310 to the highly advanced paradigms and methodologies, 135 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:55,680 so when they go out of the service, at the age of 23, 24, 136 00:06:55,783 --> 00:06:58,649 from an IBM point of view, or from EMC point of view, 137 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:00,252 or from Intel point of view, 138 00:07:00,353 --> 00:07:02,987 somebody has already conducted the screening, 139 00:07:03,089 --> 00:07:06,557 and already selected the best they can get in that sense. 140 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:09,494 But the initial screening and recruitment process 141 00:07:09,596 --> 00:07:11,797 for the IDF's most elite cyber units 142 00:07:11,899 --> 00:07:14,064 actually begins much earlier. 143 00:07:14,168 --> 00:07:16,500 In 2013, the Ministry of Defense 144 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,437 helped create a national program 145 00:07:18,538 --> 00:07:22,040 for high school students interested in learning more about the realm of cyber. 146 00:07:22,141 --> 00:07:25,843 These after-school classes have become unofficial feeder programs 147 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:27,512 for the IDF's cyber units. 148 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:31,415 We met with a recruiter for one of those units, C4I. 149 00:07:31,518 --> 00:07:33,018 We could not reveal her identity 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,286 because of her security clearance. 151 00:08:06,987 --> 00:08:10,956 For decades, Unit 8200 was a closely-guarded secret, 152 00:08:11,057 --> 00:08:14,391 partially because this elite cyber and intelligence division 153 00:08:14,495 --> 00:08:16,293 doesn't just provide defense. 154 00:08:16,396 --> 00:08:17,762 In fact, they're responsible 155 00:08:17,865 --> 00:08:20,831 for one of the most aggressive cyber attacks in history. 156 00:08:22,101 --> 00:08:23,401 Stuxnet, a cyber attack 157 00:08:23,504 --> 00:08:26,137 that sabotaged the Iranian nuclear program 158 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,505 by destroying centrifuges 159 00:08:27,608 --> 00:08:29,540 at the Natanz Nuclear Facility, 160 00:08:29,643 --> 00:08:31,877 is widely believed to be a joint operation 161 00:08:31,978 --> 00:08:35,080 of Unit 8200 and the NSA. 162 00:08:35,182 --> 00:08:37,148 And in 2014, 163 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:38,917 43 former members of 8200 164 00:08:39,019 --> 00:08:41,886 wrote an open letter to the prime minister 165 00:08:41,989 --> 00:08:43,522 refusing to serve because of the unit's 166 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:45,423 widespread use of surveillance. 167 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:48,659 We met with one of the soldiers who signed the letter 168 00:09:04,811 --> 00:09:06,711 What's wrong with that? If you're at war 169 00:09:06,812 --> 00:09:10,315 with another people and you've got complete surveillance? 170 00:09:10,417 --> 00:09:13,183 That sounds like quite an advantage. 171 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:48,186 If someone's cheating on their wife, 172 00:09:48,288 --> 00:09:51,221 and Unit 8200 have discovered this, 173 00:09:51,325 --> 00:09:53,857 what's the benefit of having that information? 174 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:08,740 It's blackmail. 175 00:10:11,745 --> 00:10:14,578 Despite its shadowy reputation, one thing is clear: 176 00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:18,616 The skills and methods these soldiers learn in 8200 177 00:10:18,719 --> 00:10:21,620 are extremely profitable on the free market. 178 00:10:21,721 --> 00:10:24,221 These veterans have gone on to create tech startups 179 00:10:24,323 --> 00:10:25,889 worth billions of dollars, 180 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:28,025 and the most prestigious tech companies 181 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,995 actively recruit former 8200 members. 182 00:10:31,097 --> 00:10:34,532 Sharon Nimirovski served in one of the IDF's technological units 183 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:38,302 before founding a company called White-Hat Limited. 184 00:10:38,404 --> 00:10:41,038 Companies hire his team to attack their systems 185 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:44,775 to assess and then fix any weaknesses. 186 00:10:44,878 --> 00:10:47,211 So, at the moment, around this table, 187 00:10:47,313 --> 00:10:50,215 your colleagues here are actually attacking 188 00:10:50,317 --> 00:10:52,017 - a company? - They are actually attacking a company. 189 00:10:52,119 --> 00:10:55,419 These days, it only takes an e-mail 190 00:10:55,522 --> 00:10:58,423 to control you. I can send you a PDF file 191 00:10:58,524 --> 00:11:02,894 and when he opens it, he gets a hostile file 192 00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:04,528 installed on his computer. 193 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:08,533 After he gets it, everything he strokes on his keyboard 194 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:10,969 is being transferred to the internet. 195 00:11:11,071 --> 00:11:13,871 Every password, every credit card number, 196 00:11:13,974 --> 00:11:15,874 every e-mail you send. 197 00:11:15,975 --> 00:11:18,208 Now, what do you do with that data 198 00:11:18,311 --> 00:11:19,778 after you collect it? 199 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:22,514 You sell it. You sell it on the darknet. 200 00:11:23,649 --> 00:11:25,683 Everything you just want to know, 201 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:27,418 you can buy here. 202 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,653 Business profiles, 203 00:11:28,754 --> 00:11:31,088 social security numbers of the employees, 204 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:32,256 date of birth. 205 00:11:32,359 --> 00:11:34,058 Bronx Hospital in New York, 206 00:11:34,161 --> 00:11:37,828 they stole 34,000 patient records. 207 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:41,231 Healthcare will be the most 208 00:11:41,334 --> 00:11:43,768 profitable information today. 209 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:47,105 What's this? That's an e-mail from... 210 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:49,173 Senator McCain. 211 00:11:49,275 --> 00:11:52,844 John McCain's e-mails are floating around the darknet? 212 00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:57,649 While the origin of Senator McCain's e-mails remains uncertain, 213 00:11:57,750 --> 00:11:59,918 the power of hacked e-mails and data breaches 214 00:12:00,019 --> 00:12:03,520 became abundantly clear during the 2016 election. 215 00:12:03,623 --> 00:12:05,490 President Obama blaming Russia 216 00:12:05,591 --> 00:12:08,659 for interfering in the U.S. elections. 217 00:12:08,761 --> 00:12:11,028 Beyond the risks of data breaches and hacker markets, 218 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:13,681 potential threats to critical infrastructure, 219 00:12:13,706 --> 00:12:15,423 including physical facilities, 220 00:12:15,501 --> 00:12:18,570 are also becoming indisputable. 221 00:12:18,672 --> 00:12:19,937 We met up with Barak Perelman, 222 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,173 an 8200 vet and founder of INDEGY, 223 00:12:23,275 --> 00:12:25,677 a startup that builds cyber security networks 224 00:12:25,778 --> 00:12:29,279 for industrial facilities that could be vulnerable to hacks. 225 00:12:29,381 --> 00:12:31,750 What happened in the last decade or so 226 00:12:31,851 --> 00:12:34,119 was the interconnectivity between the systems. 227 00:12:34,221 --> 00:12:37,288 "I want access anytime, anywhere, to any place." 228 00:12:37,389 --> 00:12:40,859 - Quite convenient, in theory. - Convenient for the operators 229 00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:43,394 and making it more convenient for the hackers. 230 00:12:44,630 --> 00:12:45,963 The type of control systems 231 00:12:46,066 --> 00:12:48,432 that essentially manage the pumps 232 00:12:48,534 --> 00:12:50,634 and the valves in all of this facility, 233 00:12:50,736 --> 00:12:53,504 were designed 20 years ago, 30 years ago. 234 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:55,373 They are very easily penetrable. 235 00:12:55,475 --> 00:12:58,610 Very easy to disable them, very easy to manipulate them. 236 00:12:58,711 --> 00:13:01,446 Could you do that? Um, so... 237 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:03,047 the short answer is yes. 238 00:13:03,149 --> 00:13:05,682 Barak hacked into the reservoir systems 239 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:08,753 to show us how dangerous a simple piece of malware can be. 240 00:13:08,855 --> 00:13:12,590 First, he shut down the valves which drain the sewage. 241 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:15,994 Simultaneously, he manipulated the system's display 242 00:13:16,096 --> 00:13:18,830 to indicate that everything was operating normally. 243 00:13:18,932 --> 00:13:20,965 There's not a big red sign saying, 244 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:25,135 "Alert! You've been hacked." Exactly. 245 00:13:25,238 --> 00:13:28,038 The eventual result of this would be the reservoirs filling up 246 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:30,441 and having a toxic overflow. 247 00:13:30,543 --> 00:13:32,243 This is theoretical. Can you give me an example 248 00:13:32,345 --> 00:13:34,412 of where this has happened in the real world? 249 00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:37,115 So, I want to refute the fact that it's theoretical, 250 00:13:37,216 --> 00:13:39,283 because as recent as a few months ago, 251 00:13:39,385 --> 00:13:42,086 in the Ukraine, a power grid that was being shut down, 252 00:13:42,188 --> 00:13:45,155 industrial control systems got hacked. 253 00:13:45,258 --> 00:13:48,592 A few years ago, we had reporting by the German government 254 00:13:48,695 --> 00:13:51,229 that a furnace was being blown up in a steel mill 255 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:52,629 due to a cyber attack. 256 00:13:52,731 --> 00:13:54,465 It's the same industrial control systems. 257 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:58,269 If I hacked one of them, I can hack, presumably, all the others as well. 258 00:13:59,306 --> 00:14:01,004 This is, without exaggeration, 259 00:14:01,106 --> 00:14:02,706 life-threatening attacks. 260 00:14:02,808 --> 00:14:04,775 If I hack into a pharmaceutical plant 261 00:14:04,878 --> 00:14:07,312 and I change the composure of the drugs. 262 00:14:07,413 --> 00:14:10,881 If I hack into an oil rig and cause an oil spill. 263 00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:13,951 If I create too much pressure in oil pipelines. 264 00:14:14,053 --> 00:14:17,388 All of this is no longer data and privacy issues. 265 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:21,125 It starts to be safety and life-threatening situations. 266 00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:22,894 I have zero doubt in my mind 267 00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:25,395 that, currently, critical infrastructures 268 00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:26,663 in the Western world 269 00:14:26,765 --> 00:14:28,166 already have malwares inside 270 00:14:28,268 --> 00:14:31,101 just ready for someone to press that red button 271 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:32,503 and shut off a power grid. 272 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:34,873 The weapons are loaded, essentially. 273 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:37,609 I think so. That's exactly the definition I would use. 274 00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,745 While cyber security companies 275 00:14:40,846 --> 00:14:42,813 become more and more in demand, 276 00:14:42,915 --> 00:14:45,115 the crippling potential of cyber warfare 277 00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:47,018 only continues to grow. 278 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,520 What we're talking about here is a total revolution 279 00:14:50,624 --> 00:14:52,289 of the whole concept of war. 280 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:55,426 It changes everything we thought about war 281 00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:58,962 and how it's being conducted, and what are the rules. 282 00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:00,764 And who is the enemy, 283 00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:02,734 and can you recognize the enemy at all? 284 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:07,971 Many countries have very dangerous cyber tools. 285 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:10,975 Some are using it viciously, like the Russians, 286 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:12,844 like the Chinese, 287 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:15,746 and are not shy of using them against other countries. 288 00:15:15,849 --> 00:15:19,116 We all understand the vulnerabilities of critical infrastructure. 289 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:22,620 And we all understand the vulnerabilities of privacy. 290 00:15:22,721 --> 00:15:24,154 But what troubles me 291 00:15:24,256 --> 00:15:27,759 is the ability to affect the mindset of masses. 292 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,192 The mindset of the public. 293 00:15:29,296 --> 00:15:33,096 The Russians were manipulating American public mindset. 294 00:15:33,198 --> 00:15:35,732 That's scary. And that, I suspect, 295 00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:38,036 would eventually undermine 296 00:15:38,138 --> 00:15:40,938 most of Western democracies in the coming decade. 297 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,342 I fear that the good 70 years post-World War II 298 00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:49,080 of prospering democracies in the Western world, 299 00:15:49,182 --> 00:15:51,448 and prosperity, economic prosperity, 300 00:15:51,551 --> 00:15:52,644 are over. 301 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:57,422 After World War II, 302 00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:58,889 the Allies punished Japan 303 00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:00,224 for waging war in Asia 304 00:16:00,326 --> 00:16:01,993 by forcing it to disarm, 305 00:16:02,095 --> 00:16:06,096 and to swear off having offensive military capabilities ever again. 306 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,033 Over time, that pacifism 307 00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:11,501 became part of the Japanese psyche. 308 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:15,706 But today, nationalism is on the rise around the world 309 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,743 and Japan has not been immune to this political tide. 310 00:16:18,845 --> 00:16:20,945 Tensions are on the rise in the Pacific, 311 00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:23,648 and now Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his backers 312 00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:26,750 are rethinking his country's previously peaceful stance 313 00:16:26,852 --> 00:16:30,455 and moving to restore Japan's military might. 314 00:16:47,673 --> 00:16:49,841 I'm walking into a survival gaming spot. 315 00:16:49,942 --> 00:16:51,241 It's kind of like paint ball. 316 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:52,710 It's outside Tokyo 317 00:16:52,812 --> 00:16:55,078 and it's clearly been designed to look like a war zone. 318 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:56,614 You have all these guys in camo. 319 00:16:56,716 --> 00:16:59,216 It looks like American military gear. 320 00:16:59,318 --> 00:17:00,412 Konichiwa. 321 00:17:05,657 --> 00:17:08,259 For the last 70 years, this is about as close 322 00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:11,194 as any Japanese citizen has come to being in combat. 323 00:17:11,297 --> 00:17:13,030 But if you ask the locals here, 324 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:14,565 that might be about to change. 325 00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:26,299 _ 326 00:17:27,113 --> 00:17:29,646 You're mentioning the idea that Japan could be invaded. 327 00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:31,182 Who... who would invade the country? 328 00:17:35,424 --> 00:17:37,596 _ 329 00:17:38,316 --> 00:17:41,488 _ 330 00:17:41,832 --> 00:17:44,471 _ 331 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:47,632 The threat from China is so obvious to these guys 332 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,902 because the two countries have a very long, bloody history. 333 00:17:52,404 --> 00:17:55,006 The last time they came to blows was when Japan invaded China 334 00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:57,141 in the run-up to World War II. 335 00:17:57,242 --> 00:17:59,210 After Japan was defeated by the Allies, 336 00:17:59,311 --> 00:18:01,511 they were found guilty of war crimes that included 337 00:18:01,614 --> 00:18:03,881 the killing of millions of Chinese. 338 00:18:03,982 --> 00:18:07,285 The U.S. forced them to adopt a constitution which renounces war, 339 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:11,655 and banned them from having any offensive military capabilities. 340 00:18:11,758 --> 00:18:13,691 Since then, pacifism has become 341 00:18:13,792 --> 00:18:15,692 a part of post-war Japanese culture, 342 00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:19,230 with the military confined to self-defense only. 343 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:21,833 But now, that might be changing. 344 00:18:23,301 --> 00:18:25,770 _ 345 00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:28,873 Today the Japanese parliament approved 346 00:18:28,974 --> 00:18:31,142 a controversial policy to allow its military 347 00:18:31,243 --> 00:18:33,277 to defend allies in other nations, 348 00:18:33,378 --> 00:18:36,547 clearing the way for troop deployments overseas. 349 00:18:37,549 --> 00:18:39,016 This parliamentary resolution 350 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:40,984 marked a shift towards militarization 351 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:42,619 that's being pushed by Japan's 352 00:18:42,721 --> 00:18:44,689 Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe. 353 00:18:47,917 --> 00:18:51,238 _ 354 00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:57,135 _ 355 00:18:57,537 --> 00:18:59,971 Abe and his supporters argue that today, 356 00:19:00,073 --> 00:19:01,806 Japan needs stronger armed forces 357 00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:04,342 to defend themselves from their powerful neighbors 358 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:06,544 and other global security threats. 359 00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:08,880 Hundreds of thousands of Japanese 360 00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:10,882 have protested Abe's reform efforts, 361 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:15,019 which they say violate Japan's constitutional commitment to pacifism. 362 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,842 _ 363 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:20,924 There are a few thousand people in this protest 364 00:19:21,027 --> 00:19:23,861 and they're all chanting for Prime Minister Abe to resign. 365 00:19:23,962 --> 00:19:26,897 They obviously feel like he's dangerous for the country. 366 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,167 They're legitimately nervous that he could drag the country into war. 367 00:19:33,006 --> 00:19:36,039 Why do you think this bill is dangerous for the country? 368 00:19:38,374 --> 00:19:41,990 _ 369 00:19:47,349 --> 00:19:49,843 _ 370 00:19:50,224 --> 00:19:55,099 _ 371 00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:58,496 But another loud voice is a growing group 372 00:19:58,597 --> 00:20:01,132 of ultranationalists called Nippon Kaigi... 373 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:05,569 who have gained a lot of influence inside of Abe's government. 374 00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:09,240 They want to go so far as to change the constitution 375 00:20:09,342 --> 00:20:11,776 to allow for attack-capable forces. 376 00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:13,477 Akira Momochi is the group's 377 00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:14,845 strategic advisor. 378 00:20:17,076 --> 00:20:18,413 _ 379 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:22,624 _ 380 00:20:22,943 --> 00:20:27,474 _ 381 00:20:27,818 --> 00:20:31,560 _ 382 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:33,230 Many people see this, though, 383 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:36,634 as the first step in preparing Japan to go to war. 384 00:20:36,732 --> 00:20:39,593 _ 385 00:20:39,710 --> 00:20:41,771 _ 386 00:20:41,896 --> 00:20:46,232 _ 387 00:20:46,538 --> 00:20:51,154 _ 388 00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:54,546 _ 389 00:20:55,343 --> 00:20:56,679 _ 390 00:20:56,823 --> 00:20:58,855 But the line between defense and offense 391 00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:00,090 is starting to blur. 392 00:21:01,451 --> 00:21:02,403 _ 393 00:21:03,895 --> 00:21:05,962 Japan's 2017 military budget 394 00:21:06,065 --> 00:21:07,731 is its biggest ever. 395 00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:09,933 And the Self-Defense Forces have demonstrated 396 00:21:10,036 --> 00:21:12,869 that they're expanding their capabilities on land 397 00:21:12,971 --> 00:21:14,739 in the air, and at sea. 398 00:21:19,811 --> 00:21:22,913 This is the "Izumo." It's one of Japan's brand-new carriers. 399 00:21:23,016 --> 00:21:26,150 There's a constitutional ban against Japan having aircraft carriers, 400 00:21:26,251 --> 00:21:29,753 and so they actually classify this as a helicopter carrier. 401 00:21:32,057 --> 00:21:34,791 The "Izumo" looks so much like a conventional aircraft carrier 402 00:21:34,894 --> 00:21:37,595 that other countries have complained that it's a violation 403 00:21:37,697 --> 00:21:40,064 of Japan's pacifist commitments. 404 00:21:42,902 --> 00:21:44,969 I'm on top of the outdoor elevator 405 00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:47,771 that brings all of the aircrafts from the hangar 406 00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:49,606 up to the deck. 407 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:53,677 Critics have said that this carrier 408 00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:55,945 is only called a helicopter carrier 409 00:21:56,048 --> 00:21:59,482 because it's against the constitution to have an aircraft carrier. 410 00:21:59,585 --> 00:22:00,884 What's your reaction to that? 411 00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:09,060 _ 412 00:22:09,193 --> 00:22:12,576 _ 413 00:22:12,671 --> 00:22:15,318 _ 414 00:22:15,401 --> 00:22:17,601 I've been on a U.S. aircraft carrier before, 415 00:22:17,703 --> 00:22:20,203 and this looks pretty much exactly the same. 416 00:22:20,306 --> 00:22:22,373 Could this transform into a carrier 417 00:22:22,474 --> 00:22:26,065 that could deploy fighter jets like the F-35? 418 00:22:26,143 --> 00:22:30,354 _ 419 00:22:30,808 --> 00:22:34,325 _ 420 00:22:34,411 --> 00:22:36,825 _ 421 00:22:36,849 --> 00:22:38,450 _ 422 00:22:38,654 --> 00:22:43,240 _ 423 00:22:43,654 --> 00:22:45,835 _ 424 00:22:45,932 --> 00:22:48,365 Not only did the "Izumo's" commander concede 425 00:22:48,468 --> 00:22:50,867 that the ship could be converted into an attack vessel, 426 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:54,572 but it was also recently deployed alongside an American battleship 427 00:22:54,673 --> 00:22:57,040 in nearby waters as a clear show of strength. 428 00:22:57,143 --> 00:22:59,042 These growing naval capabilities 429 00:22:59,144 --> 00:23:02,113 are exactly what Japan wants to project towards China, 430 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:05,082 especially when it comes to their intensifying standoff 431 00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:08,118 over a small group of uninhabited islands. 432 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:09,619 Nationalists from both countries 433 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:11,689 frequently make their way out to the islands 434 00:23:11,790 --> 00:23:13,423 to plant their country's flag. 435 00:23:13,526 --> 00:23:16,727 One regular visitor is Satoru Mizushima, 436 00:23:16,828 --> 00:23:19,296 an influential conservative Japanese talk show host. 437 00:23:22,602 --> 00:23:25,568 Hello. How are you, Mr. Mizushima? 438 00:23:25,671 --> 00:23:27,238 - Nice to meet you. - Thank you for having me. 439 00:23:27,291 --> 00:23:28,299 Nice to meet you. 440 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:31,008 Thank you so much. Thank you. Okay. 441 00:23:38,169 --> 00:23:41,215 _ 442 00:23:43,583 --> 00:23:45,739 _ 443 00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:48,291 Hello, hello. Thank you for having me. 444 00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:49,993 You have a beautiful set here. 445 00:23:50,096 --> 00:23:51,662 Thank you very much. 446 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:59,769 Uh, behind us we have videos of the Senkaku Islands. 447 00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:02,539 What is your opinion of what's going on there right now 448 00:24:02,642 --> 00:24:04,775 between China and Japan? 449 00:24:04,806 --> 00:24:08,611 _ 450 00:24:08,779 --> 00:24:14,046 _ 451 00:24:14,304 --> 00:24:19,943 _ 452 00:24:22,894 --> 00:24:25,162 So, do you think it would actually be realistic 453 00:24:25,263 --> 00:24:29,032 that war could break out there between Japan and China? 454 00:24:29,183 --> 00:24:31,628 _ 455 00:24:31,769 --> 00:24:35,003 _ 456 00:24:37,406 --> 00:24:42,398 _ 457 00:24:42,688 --> 00:24:46,109 _ 458 00:24:46,211 --> 00:24:49,992 _ 459 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,008 _ 460 00:24:53,227 --> 00:24:59,008 _ 461 00:24:59,305 --> 00:25:02,789 _ 462 00:25:02,938 --> 00:25:06,477 _ 463 00:25:06,705 --> 00:25:08,771 This suspicion of an aggressive China 464 00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:10,106 appears to be growing, 465 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:11,442 as Japanese nationalists 466 00:25:11,544 --> 00:25:13,042 have also taken to the streets 467 00:25:13,144 --> 00:25:15,645 to demand a much stronger stance toward China. 468 00:25:18,711 --> 00:25:20,798 _ 469 00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:22,419 I'm with a bunch of right-wingers 470 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:23,753 in the middle of Tokyo. 471 00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:24,954 There are hundreds of people here 472 00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:26,356 and what they're all protesting 473 00:25:26,459 --> 00:25:28,224 is Japan's relationship with China. 474 00:25:28,326 --> 00:25:30,560 They're all pissed off that China keeps encroaching 475 00:25:30,663 --> 00:25:31,761 on Japanese territory. 476 00:25:33,903 --> 00:25:36,575 _ 477 00:25:38,294 --> 00:25:43,637 _ 478 00:25:44,044 --> 00:25:48,247 _ 479 00:25:48,614 --> 00:25:50,513 We chartered a boat to the Senkakus 480 00:25:50,615 --> 00:25:52,950 to see the disputed territories ourselves. 481 00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:55,085 But the Japanese Coast Guard intercepted our boat 482 00:25:55,186 --> 00:25:56,987 and jumped on board. 483 00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:02,660 Konichiwa. 484 00:26:04,948 --> 00:26:07,631 So first... sure. Oh, first can I just ask you, 485 00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:09,365 um, why... Why did you stop us? 486 00:26:11,103 --> 00:26:12,469 I want to talk to... 487 00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:13,938 To the captain. I understand. Yeah. 488 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,705 Sorry. I'm just trying to understand, 'cause it... 489 00:26:15,807 --> 00:26:18,909 I don't think we're breaking any... breaking any laws. 490 00:26:20,284 --> 00:26:21,721 _ 491 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,372 _ 492 00:26:27,598 --> 00:26:32,880 _ 493 00:26:34,894 --> 00:26:37,661 The Coast Guard cited an 80-year-old fishing regulation 494 00:26:37,762 --> 00:26:39,430 as grounds to turn us away. 495 00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,265 But based on their past actions, 496 00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:43,232 they're concerned that an incident in these waters 497 00:26:43,336 --> 00:26:45,001 could spark an actual conflict. 498 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,172 So much so, that these same Coast Guard vessels 499 00:26:48,273 --> 00:26:50,406 will physically block civilian boats 500 00:26:50,509 --> 00:26:52,809 from reaching the islands. 501 00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:55,378 And the hostility on the water is escalating. 502 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,381 China has been claiming, constructing, 503 00:26:57,482 --> 00:27:00,517 and militarizing islands in the nearby South China Sea, 504 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,086 dangerously amping up tensions with the U.S. 505 00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:04,421 and its allies in Asia. 506 00:27:04,522 --> 00:27:07,590 But if local hostilities did boil over into conflict, 507 00:27:07,692 --> 00:27:10,227 it would have major global consequences 508 00:27:10,328 --> 00:27:13,396 because the original post-war agreements also stipulated 509 00:27:13,499 --> 00:27:15,531 that in return for Japan's pacifism, 510 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,234 the U.S. is legally bound to defend them. 511 00:27:19,438 --> 00:27:22,573 We are committed to the security of Japan 512 00:27:22,674 --> 00:27:27,243 and all areas under its administrative control. 513 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,445 Retired admiral Yoji Koda 514 00:27:29,548 --> 00:27:30,847 was once the commander-in-chief 515 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:32,883 of Japan's Self Defense Fleet. 516 00:27:32,984 --> 00:27:35,419 He made it clear that if Japan goes to war, 517 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,153 the U.S. is going with them. 518 00:27:37,256 --> 00:27:41,025 One of the fundamental reasons why Japan maintains the U.S.-Japan Alliance, 519 00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:44,862 if anything, the aggression happens toward Japan, 520 00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:47,397 Self-Defense Force role is to repel 521 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,566 those... the invaders. 522 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:51,868 No more than that. We can't strike their homeland. 523 00:27:51,971 --> 00:27:55,673 Japan fully depends on the strategic deterrence 524 00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:58,307 and strike capability of the United States. 525 00:27:58,411 --> 00:28:00,009 If China really... 526 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:03,780 goes for the military action, 527 00:28:03,883 --> 00:28:06,517 the cost they are going to pay is very bloody. 528 00:28:06,618 --> 00:28:07,785 They know that. 529 00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:11,454 And Japan has the hardware 530 00:28:11,557 --> 00:28:14,090 and the personnel to exact that cost. 531 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:18,061 Armed Japanese fighters regularly patrol contested air space, 532 00:28:18,163 --> 00:28:19,696 including over the Senkakus 533 00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:22,398 and they launch whenever they see Chinese planes doing the same, 534 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:27,237 scrambling their jets more than 1,100 times last year alone. 535 00:28:27,338 --> 00:28:28,939 It's a tense waiting game 536 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,606 between the world's three largest economies, 537 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:34,411 and it could erupt into hostilities at any time. 538 00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:37,815 The closer they come, the more sensitive we become, 539 00:28:37,916 --> 00:28:41,285 and we send our fighters to say hello. 540 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,887 We will not fire. We will not fire. 541 00:28:45,712 --> 00:28:46,923 We can't. 542 00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:50,359 Unless they fire first.43070

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