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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,869 --> 00:00:09,491 He was the king 2 00:00:09,492 --> 00:00:11,700 of narco-political law enforcement corruption in Mexico. 3 00:00:11,701 --> 00:00:14,841 Carrillo was famous for the idea that if a load's lost, 4 00:00:14,842 --> 00:00:16,877 you kill everyone connected with it. 5 00:00:16,878 --> 00:00:18,258 That way you get the traitor. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,985 He said that someone had to get their hands dirty 7 00:00:20,986 --> 00:00:22,400 for the sake of Mexico, 8 00:00:22,401 --> 00:00:25,334 and if that meant moving drugs, well let's move them. 9 00:00:25,335 --> 00:00:50,429 ♪ Oh 10 00:00:56,608 --> 00:00:58,712 September 29th, 1989. 11 00:00:58,713 --> 00:01:00,680 It was the largest seizure of cocaine 12 00:01:00,681 --> 00:01:02,302 the world had ever seen. 13 00:01:02,303 --> 00:01:05,133 Over 21 tons with a potential street value 14 00:01:05,134 --> 00:01:07,445 in excess of $7 billion, 15 00:01:07,446 --> 00:01:10,586 discovered in a warehouse in Sylmar, California. 16 00:01:10,587 --> 00:01:13,175 Boxes of the narcotic had been stacked eight feet high 17 00:01:13,176 --> 00:01:16,489 alongside bags filled with over $10 million in cash. 18 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:18,560 Investigators soon discovered that the drugs 19 00:01:18,561 --> 00:01:19,837 had entered the United States 20 00:01:19,838 --> 00:01:21,942 via the bridge that connects El Paso, Texas 21 00:01:21,943 --> 00:01:25,153 with the Mexican border community of Juarez. 22 00:01:25,154 --> 00:01:26,947 And while most law enforcement officials 23 00:01:26,948 --> 00:01:29,605 wouldn't learn his name for several more years, 24 00:01:29,606 --> 00:01:31,676 they were already experiencing the influence 25 00:01:31,677 --> 00:01:33,437 of a mysterious Mexican drug lord 26 00:01:33,438 --> 00:01:35,440 named Amado Carrillo Fuentes. 27 00:01:36,579 --> 00:01:38,476 His rise to power and ultimate demise 28 00:01:38,477 --> 00:01:41,652 offers a rare glimpse into the narco-political underworld 29 00:01:41,653 --> 00:01:44,033 of Mexican organized crime. 30 00:01:48,453 --> 00:01:50,005 He says, "I want to tell you a name" 31 00:01:50,006 --> 00:01:51,110 and I go, "Okay." 32 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:54,630 He says, "Amado Carrillo Fuentes." 33 00:01:54,631 --> 00:01:56,529 And he said, "I want to tell you one other thing: 34 00:01:56,530 --> 00:01:58,462 never say that name out loud." 35 00:01:59,291 --> 00:02:00,878 He was the king 36 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:03,639 of narco-political law enforcement corruption in Mexico. 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,297 There was a time when Amado was moving drugs 38 00:02:06,298 --> 00:02:10,163 in old commercial airliners, moving it by the ton. 39 00:02:10,164 --> 00:02:12,096 You know, 10 tons of coke, 40 00:02:12,097 --> 00:02:15,064 pure Colombian coke in a passenger airline. 41 00:02:15,065 --> 00:02:19,345 That's how he got his nickname El Senior de Los Cielos, 42 00:02:19,346 --> 00:02:20,829 Lord of the Skies. 43 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:29,424 The 2000-mile expanse of the Mexican-US border 44 00:02:29,425 --> 00:02:32,392 has been attracting smugglers since before prohibition 45 00:02:32,393 --> 00:02:34,636 when men delivered whiskey to the thirsty patrons 46 00:02:34,637 --> 00:02:36,052 of Texas and Arizona. 47 00:02:37,295 --> 00:02:39,296 Marijuana was the drug of choice in the '30s 48 00:02:41,022 --> 00:02:43,679 and after World War II, recovering GIs addicted to morphine 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,648 created an enormous demand for heroin. 50 00:02:46,649 --> 00:02:49,616 For more than a century, Mexico's traficantes 51 00:02:49,617 --> 00:02:52,102 have catered to America's changing appetite. 52 00:02:53,897 --> 00:02:56,175 Smuggling activities are often coordinated 53 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,762 from the state of Sinaloa, 54 00:02:57,763 --> 00:03:01,559 long recognized as Mexico's marijuana and heroin heartland. 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,803 The US Drug Enforcement Administration 56 00:03:03,804 --> 00:03:06,323 has even given the region a special nickname. 57 00:03:06,324 --> 00:03:08,670 A lot of the drug guys come out of that area. 58 00:03:08,671 --> 00:03:12,570 It's very poor, you know, it's a lot of ranchos, 59 00:03:12,571 --> 00:03:15,021 and so DEA calls it Jurassic Park 60 00:03:15,022 --> 00:03:18,507 'cause that's where the prehistoric monsters come from. 61 00:03:18,508 --> 00:03:21,061 Charles Bowden is a journalist and author. 62 00:03:21,062 --> 00:03:24,168 His book, "Juarez: The Laboratory of Our Future" 63 00:03:24,169 --> 00:03:27,102 takes a critical look at the forces shaping modern Mexico. 64 00:03:27,103 --> 00:03:29,656 You have to understand Sinaloa 65 00:03:29,657 --> 00:03:32,694 has always had a bandit culture, hereditary. 66 00:03:32,695 --> 00:03:36,492 It's an entire state with a Jesse James ethic. 67 00:03:37,907 --> 00:03:39,977 Indeed, the tradition of smuggling is so strong 68 00:03:39,978 --> 00:03:42,704 that the region has its own patron saint. 69 00:03:42,705 --> 00:03:45,914 Jesus Malverde was a bandit at the turn of the century 70 00:03:45,915 --> 00:03:49,228 with a Zorro-like reputation for helping the poor. 71 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:52,921 After his execution by government forces in 1909, 72 00:03:52,922 --> 00:03:56,511 villagers began to attribute miracles to the bandit martyr. 73 00:03:56,512 --> 00:03:59,962 Traffickers often visit his shrine to have bullets blessed 74 00:03:59,963 --> 00:04:02,862 or to thank the narco saint for their good fortune. 75 00:04:05,555 --> 00:04:08,488 It was into this environment that Amado Carrillo Fuentes 76 00:04:08,489 --> 00:04:10,939 was born in the early 1950s. 77 00:04:10,940 --> 00:04:14,149 We know little of his childhood, but in the early 1970s, 78 00:04:14,150 --> 00:04:16,427 his uncle, Ernesto Fonseca, 79 00:04:16,428 --> 00:04:19,188 gave him a job harvesting marijuana. 80 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:21,813 Carrillo was starting his career at the very bottom. 81 00:04:24,022 --> 00:04:25,816 Fonseca was a powerful smuggler 82 00:04:25,817 --> 00:04:29,164 and original member of the influential Guadalajara Cartel, 83 00:04:29,165 --> 00:04:31,719 under the tough Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo. 84 00:04:32,789 --> 00:04:35,204 A former Sinaloa state police officer, 85 00:04:35,205 --> 00:04:37,034 Miguel campaigned for cooperation 86 00:04:37,035 --> 00:04:39,070 among the competing traffickers, 87 00:04:39,071 --> 00:04:42,420 a philosophy Carrillo himself would adopt many years later. 88 00:04:44,249 --> 00:04:46,526 This spirit of cooperation put the cartel 89 00:04:46,527 --> 00:04:48,321 in the unique position to benefit 90 00:04:48,322 --> 00:04:50,599 from another organization's misfortune. 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,807 They've hit shore, and they're running, 92 00:04:51,808 --> 00:04:53,084 three people. 93 00:04:53,085 --> 00:04:54,362 - Four people total. - Four people total. 94 00:04:54,363 --> 00:04:57,261 In 1982, US anti-drug forces 95 00:04:57,262 --> 00:04:58,987 deployed throughout South Florida 96 00:04:58,988 --> 00:05:00,609 and crippled the distribution network 97 00:05:00,610 --> 00:05:02,646 of Columbia's cocaine king pins. 98 00:05:05,684 --> 00:05:08,962 Stung by the losses, the Colombians needed a reliable way 99 00:05:08,963 --> 00:05:11,207 to move their product into the US. 100 00:05:12,381 --> 00:05:14,623 Miguel Angel jumped at the opportunity. 101 00:05:14,624 --> 00:05:17,764 The cartel had ferried cocaine through Mexico before, 102 00:05:17,765 --> 00:05:20,491 but this new arrangement would encompass much larger loads 103 00:05:20,492 --> 00:05:24,944 and bring much greater profits up to $2,000 per kilo. 104 00:05:24,945 --> 00:05:27,395 It wasn't long before the Sinaloa drug lords 105 00:05:27,396 --> 00:05:29,742 were making more money than ever before. 106 00:05:29,743 --> 00:05:33,159 Here in the Sierra Madre, where there's no electricity 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,714 and people have stash groves, you start seeing nightclubs 108 00:05:36,715 --> 00:05:40,718 with lavish marble and things in the middle of nowhere. 109 00:05:40,719 --> 00:05:44,515 And then you notice that people that are barefoot have Uzis. 110 00:05:44,516 --> 00:05:45,758 And what are you supposed to think? 111 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:47,312 They had a good corn crop? 112 00:05:48,762 --> 00:05:50,901 It is unknown how Carrillo made the transition 113 00:05:50,902 --> 00:05:54,214 from harvesting marijuana to full out trafficking. 114 00:05:54,215 --> 00:05:56,941 Most believe that Carrillo had completed his apprenticeship 115 00:05:56,942 --> 00:05:59,910 and was ready for a larger role in the organization. 116 00:05:59,911 --> 00:06:02,775 That larger role may well have included a five-year stint 117 00:06:02,776 --> 00:06:05,710 as a member of Mexico's secret police, the DFS. 118 00:06:07,021 --> 00:06:10,058 DFS stands for the Director of Federal Security 119 00:06:10,059 --> 00:06:14,821 and it was the secret police agency of Gobernacion 120 00:06:14,822 --> 00:06:17,790 which is the Interior Government Ministry of Mexico. 121 00:06:17,791 --> 00:06:21,034 Amado had one of those badges, he was an agent. 122 00:06:21,035 --> 00:06:24,486 At the time of the bust of the Buffalo marijuana complex 123 00:06:24,487 --> 00:06:29,353 in Chihuahua, Mexico, a vast multi-billion dollar operation, 124 00:06:29,354 --> 00:06:32,908 which at the time employed 7,000 farm workers 125 00:06:32,909 --> 00:06:34,393 on the marijuana fields. 126 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,499 The biggest drug plantation ever created on Earth. 127 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:41,089 One so large it could be seen by American satellites. 128 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:42,815 The drug complex was exposed 129 00:06:42,816 --> 00:06:45,369 by DEA agent Enrique Camarena, 130 00:06:45,370 --> 00:06:47,475 who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered 131 00:06:47,476 --> 00:06:50,029 by leaders of the Guadalajara Cartel, 132 00:06:50,030 --> 00:06:51,513 Carrillo's uncle among them. 133 00:06:51,514 --> 00:06:53,791 In the investigations that came out later, 134 00:06:53,792 --> 00:06:57,657 it turned out that the DFS was deeply involved 135 00:06:57,658 --> 00:07:00,211 in the protection of this operation along with the MFJP, 136 00:07:00,212 --> 00:07:02,938 the Mexican Federal Police and the Mexican Army. 137 00:07:02,939 --> 00:07:07,495 The cowardly murder of Enrique Kiki Camarena, 138 00:07:07,496 --> 00:07:10,222 Special Agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration 139 00:07:11,396 --> 00:07:13,502 was carried out by the Mexican government 140 00:07:14,779 --> 00:07:18,644 in conjunction, in cooperation, in partnership 141 00:07:18,645 --> 00:07:22,268 with the godfathers of the drug trade. 142 00:07:22,269 --> 00:07:24,339 Phil Jordan retired from the DEA 143 00:07:24,340 --> 00:07:26,928 after 30 years of service, including 10 years 144 00:07:26,929 --> 00:07:29,344 as Special Agent in charge of the Dallas office, 145 00:07:29,345 --> 00:07:31,139 and one year is head of EPIC, 146 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:34,901 DEA's El Paso Intelligence Center, the largest database 147 00:07:34,902 --> 00:07:37,249 of drug trafficking information in the world. 148 00:07:38,250 --> 00:07:40,597 He and Camarena were good friends. 149 00:07:40,598 --> 00:07:43,807 To this day, Mexico has never apologized 150 00:07:43,808 --> 00:07:45,222 for having captured 151 00:07:45,223 --> 00:07:48,639 and delivered Kiki Camarena to the traffickers. 152 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,125 Because of the international pressures that resulted 153 00:07:52,126 --> 00:07:53,955 mainly from the United States, 154 00:07:53,956 --> 00:07:58,200 the DFS dismissed 400 of its agents, 155 00:07:58,201 --> 00:08:00,409 and I have to assume that Amado was one of those 400 156 00:08:00,410 --> 00:08:01,997 who were dismissed at that time. 157 00:08:03,793 --> 00:08:06,277 In 1985, Carrillo made his way 158 00:08:06,278 --> 00:08:08,348 to the border town of Ojinaga, 159 00:08:08,349 --> 00:08:11,075 ideally situated near the Big Bend region of Texas 160 00:08:11,076 --> 00:08:14,044 that was rapidly becoming a major distribution center 161 00:08:14,045 --> 00:08:15,873 for narcotics in northern Mexico. 162 00:08:15,874 --> 00:08:17,461 It had always been very important 163 00:08:17,462 --> 00:08:20,947 for marijuana and heroin, but after the cocaine smuggling 164 00:08:20,948 --> 00:08:24,019 shifted from the Caribbean into Mexico, 165 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:26,539 Ojinaga became cocaine central. 166 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:28,403 At the time, Pablo Acosta 167 00:08:28,404 --> 00:08:31,440 was the undisputed crime boss of Ojinaga. 168 00:08:31,441 --> 00:08:33,822 Having smuggled heroin and marijuana in the region 169 00:08:33,823 --> 00:08:36,860 for close to 15 years, he had finally taken control 170 00:08:36,861 --> 00:08:39,588 of the region, or plaza, three years previous. 171 00:08:40,761 --> 00:08:42,866 In a process known as piggybacking, 172 00:08:42,867 --> 00:08:45,316 the Guadalajara Cartel had added cocaine 173 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:47,836 to Acosta's well-respected operations. 174 00:08:47,837 --> 00:08:51,253 Pablo's strength was that he had the protection sewed up 175 00:08:51,254 --> 00:08:52,565 for that whole region, 176 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:54,429 and so the cocaine coming in was secure. 177 00:08:54,430 --> 00:08:55,706 Nobody had to about it. 178 00:08:55,707 --> 00:08:57,708 If it was in Pablo's hands, it was safe. 179 00:08:57,709 --> 00:08:58,640 Proof that Carrillo 180 00:08:58,641 --> 00:09:01,022 was in Ojinaga came in 1985. 181 00:09:01,023 --> 00:09:02,920 A US customs agent detained him 182 00:09:02,921 --> 00:09:05,372 for carrying an automatic rifle into Mexico. 183 00:09:08,030 --> 00:09:10,169 This was Carrillo's first and only run-in 184 00:09:10,170 --> 00:09:13,310 with US law enforcement, and it produced the oldest known 185 00:09:13,311 --> 00:09:14,898 photograph of the man who had become 186 00:09:14,899 --> 00:09:17,142 Mexico's most powerful drug lord. 187 00:09:18,454 --> 00:09:21,042 Carrillo spoke freely with the customs officials, 188 00:09:21,043 --> 00:09:24,252 giving them a great deal of personal information. 189 00:09:24,253 --> 00:09:25,978 And even though US intelligence 190 00:09:25,979 --> 00:09:29,326 had already identified Carrillo as a powerful trafficker, 191 00:09:29,327 --> 00:09:30,845 they did not know how the Sinaloan 192 00:09:30,846 --> 00:09:33,882 fit into Pablo Acosta's organization. 193 00:09:33,883 --> 00:09:36,576 They seemed at least to have had a good friendship. 194 00:09:37,784 --> 00:09:39,232 Pablo when I was with him, was very proud 195 00:09:39,233 --> 00:09:40,475 of the ingot around his neck. 196 00:09:40,476 --> 00:09:41,476 I asked him about that. 197 00:09:41,477 --> 00:09:43,892 It was a one ounce gold ingot 198 00:09:43,893 --> 00:09:45,445 and he said it was a gift of Amado, 199 00:09:45,446 --> 00:09:48,587 and then he showed his watch, it was a solid gold Rolex 200 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,728 that also, according to him, had been a gift of Amado. 201 00:09:51,729 --> 00:09:53,350 He wore it everywhere. 202 00:09:53,351 --> 00:09:55,594 He was, like I said, very proud of that. 203 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:56,871 In fact, when he died, 204 00:09:56,872 --> 00:09:58,805 he had the same watch around his wrist. 205 00:09:59,978 --> 00:10:01,530 Carrillo's arrival coincided 206 00:10:01,531 --> 00:10:03,636 with a sudden upswing in the amount of cocaine 207 00:10:03,637 --> 00:10:06,052 being flown into Ojinaga. 208 00:10:06,053 --> 00:10:08,676 Experts now believe that Carrillo's role at the border 209 00:10:08,677 --> 00:10:11,333 was a dual one: to coordinate his uncle's 210 00:10:11,334 --> 00:10:14,336 Colombian shipments, and to apprentice some of Mexico's 211 00:10:14,337 --> 00:10:16,442 most experienced drug lords. 212 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:25,659 ♪ Oh 213 00:10:28,558 --> 00:10:30,388 ♪ Oh 214 00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:41,570 Pablo Acosta was an expert at getting drugs across. 215 00:10:41,571 --> 00:10:44,574 He knew how to do it and he taught Amado everything he knew. 216 00:10:45,748 --> 00:10:48,405 Amado was a little bit smarter, though. 217 00:10:48,406 --> 00:10:50,441 Pablo Acosta used to freebase cocaine 218 00:10:50,442 --> 00:10:51,719 and do all this stuff. 219 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,134 I mean, he was, even if he hadn't gotten killed 220 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:55,757 in a shootout, he was on his way to an early grave. 221 00:10:55,758 --> 00:10:58,657 Aging and addicted, Acosta was losing his grip 222 00:10:58,658 --> 00:10:59,451 on the plaza. 223 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:03,489 Carrillo by contrast, was coming into his own. 224 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:05,077 After his uncle's arrest for the murder 225 00:11:05,078 --> 00:11:08,218 of Special Agent Camarena, it is possible to assume 226 00:11:08,219 --> 00:11:10,635 that Carrillo inherited his uncle's operation. 227 00:11:11,809 --> 00:11:15,121 In late 1986, Terrence Poppa met both men 228 00:11:15,122 --> 00:11:17,917 and found the contrast memorable. 229 00:11:21,819 --> 00:11:23,198 We were sitting there in an apartment 230 00:11:23,199 --> 00:11:25,062 above a radio station. 231 00:11:25,063 --> 00:11:26,961 There was a long table there 232 00:11:26,962 --> 00:11:29,446 and there was ashtrays overflowing with cigarette butts. 233 00:11:29,447 --> 00:11:30,689 There were machine gun clips, 234 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:33,588 there was this AR 15 right behind him. 235 00:11:33,589 --> 00:11:35,695 He had a .45 in his belt. 236 00:11:37,006 --> 00:11:39,180 At some point, he pulled out a little bag of cocaine 237 00:11:39,181 --> 00:11:42,701 and then a box of baking soda and he mixed the two up 238 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:45,255 and then cooked it over a flame 239 00:11:45,256 --> 00:11:49,259 and it melted, and it bubbled up and then fused together. 240 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:51,364 And for the rest of the night, 241 00:11:51,365 --> 00:11:54,126 he was either scraping that stuff into a powder, 242 00:11:54,127 --> 00:11:55,956 making packs of cigarettes 243 00:11:57,475 --> 00:12:00,374 to smoke that he kept in his pocket or smoking the stuff. 244 00:12:01,444 --> 00:12:02,893 Everybody I've talked to about him 245 00:12:02,894 --> 00:12:06,828 attributes his decline and fall to cocaine. 246 00:12:06,829 --> 00:12:08,623 And then Amado came over. 247 00:12:08,624 --> 00:12:11,730 He walks into the room, he was dressed in Western, I recall. 248 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,423 You know, a little bit pudgy, friendly, 249 00:12:15,942 --> 00:12:18,357 a little bit overly friendly, in fact. 250 00:12:18,358 --> 00:12:19,634 There was one thing I remember though 251 00:12:19,635 --> 00:12:21,291 that really stands out, 252 00:12:21,292 --> 00:12:24,433 and that was a sort of a glint in his eyes. 253 00:12:25,675 --> 00:12:28,816 And I think he knew the fact that Pablo 254 00:12:28,817 --> 00:12:32,440 was talking to an American reporter spelled his doom. 255 00:12:32,441 --> 00:12:34,235 I think Amado knew that. 256 00:12:34,236 --> 00:12:36,099 He was aiming to take over 257 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:38,411 and taking over meant getting rid of Pablo. 258 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:41,000 We will never know if Carrillo 259 00:12:41,001 --> 00:12:43,623 ever challenged Acosta's authority directly. 260 00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:46,592 In 1986, the two man exchanged heated world 261 00:12:46,593 --> 00:12:48,767 in a restaurant in Ojinaga. 262 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:52,529 Pablo and Amado's operation included a ranch 263 00:12:52,530 --> 00:12:54,876 not too far out of town, maybe 20 miles, 264 00:12:54,877 --> 00:12:56,775 where there was an underground storage tank. 265 00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:59,329 It's like, you know, an old gasoline tank, you know, 266 00:12:59,330 --> 00:13:00,606 next to a runway. 267 00:13:16,968 --> 00:13:20,799 So they'd be fly in propane, 1800-pound loads, 268 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,941 and then offload it and bury it in the tank. 269 00:13:24,942 --> 00:13:28,013 And only the traffickers knew about this tank. 270 00:13:28,014 --> 00:13:31,188 Somehow or other the DEA found out about this tank. 271 00:13:31,189 --> 00:13:34,605 Somehow or other Amado found out that the DEA knew about it. 272 00:13:34,606 --> 00:13:38,817 Now independently of Pablo, Amado had six people rounded up 273 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:41,474 who had knowledge of that underground tank 274 00:13:41,475 --> 00:13:45,064 and he had each one of them tortured to death 275 00:13:45,065 --> 00:13:46,238 to find out if there was a leak 276 00:13:46,239 --> 00:13:47,618 or if they knew anything about a leak. 277 00:13:49,173 --> 00:13:51,519 None of them did, but they were all dead. 278 00:13:54,109 --> 00:13:55,281 Acosta confronted Carrillo 279 00:13:55,282 --> 00:13:56,800 asking him what he had accomplished 280 00:13:56,801 --> 00:13:59,285 by killing six innocent men. 281 00:13:59,286 --> 00:14:01,011 Carrillo replied coolly 282 00:14:03,221 --> 00:14:05,809 "It is better for six innocent men to die 283 00:14:05,810 --> 00:14:08,363 than for one guilty man to go unpunished." 284 00:14:08,364 --> 00:14:10,987 I think that Amado learned some lessons from Pablo. 285 00:14:10,988 --> 00:14:12,954 He didn't learn the crack cocaine lesson very well 286 00:14:12,955 --> 00:14:16,821 because he appeared to do that for the rest of his career. 287 00:14:18,236 --> 00:14:20,203 But he did learn that a high profile 288 00:14:20,204 --> 00:14:22,861 had some real strong drawbacks. 289 00:14:24,346 --> 00:14:26,209 During his interview with Terrence Poppa, 290 00:14:26,210 --> 00:14:28,487 Pablo had revealed part of a protection scheme 291 00:14:28,488 --> 00:14:31,283 unique to Mexico's organized crime groups. 292 00:14:31,284 --> 00:14:33,043 That in order to control the plaza, 293 00:14:33,044 --> 00:14:35,252 he had to make regular payments to both the army 294 00:14:35,253 --> 00:14:37,806 and the Mexican federal police. 295 00:14:37,807 --> 00:14:39,739 As soon as the interview was published, 296 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:43,467 the order came from Mexico City to arrest Pablo Acosta. 297 00:14:43,468 --> 00:14:46,160 For the next five months, they chased him all over Mexico. 298 00:14:46,161 --> 00:14:49,577 He ended up hiding out in a river village on the Rio Grande 299 00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:54,893 and he was trapped in an adobe hut for about an hour. 300 00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:56,515 They had a tenacious gun battle, 301 00:14:56,516 --> 00:14:58,863 and he was killed, he refused to give up. 302 00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:01,623 When Acosta went on the lam, 303 00:15:01,624 --> 00:15:03,211 Carrillo disappeared. 304 00:15:03,212 --> 00:15:06,318 Some believe he was involved in Acosta's death. 305 00:15:06,319 --> 00:15:07,733 I can't speak for the DEA. 306 00:15:07,734 --> 00:15:10,909 I can speak for the intelligence that was known. 307 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:15,915 And the intelligence was that Amado Carrillo Fuentes 308 00:15:17,054 --> 00:15:18,572 paid the Mexican federal police $1 million 309 00:15:20,229 --> 00:15:22,679 to have Pablo Acosta killed. 310 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,682 Never have a high profile, don't talk to reporters, 311 00:15:25,683 --> 00:15:27,580 don't let anyone know your name. 312 00:15:27,581 --> 00:15:29,859 Kill people that publicize your name 313 00:15:31,413 --> 00:15:33,655 because that's what killed Acosta. 314 00:15:33,656 --> 00:15:37,797 He became too well known, thereby becoming an embarrassment 315 00:15:37,798 --> 00:15:42,044 to the Mexican government that employed him, which they did. 316 00:15:43,390 --> 00:15:46,185 The police and the government in Mexico 317 00:15:46,186 --> 00:15:49,154 get a cut of everything, including crime. 318 00:15:49,155 --> 00:15:52,536 So if you want to be a criminal, the head criminal, 319 00:15:52,537 --> 00:15:55,884 you have to establish that you're in charge of the plaza, 320 00:15:55,885 --> 00:15:58,957 that you represent the criminal element. 321 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:02,477 Then you can go to the comandante and cut a deal 322 00:16:02,478 --> 00:16:04,100 and the comandante will tell you 323 00:16:04,101 --> 00:16:06,999 you can do anything you want, but if it gets to be trouble, 324 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,554 I'm gonna kill you, arrest you, jail you. 325 00:16:10,555 --> 00:16:12,556 But if that doesn't happen, 326 00:16:12,557 --> 00:16:15,388 you just give me my bite and you can do business. 327 00:16:16,561 --> 00:16:18,666 That was the way the plaza system functioned. 328 00:16:18,667 --> 00:16:21,703 Over time, it was natural for individual plazas 329 00:16:21,704 --> 00:16:24,258 to band together into larger alliances. 330 00:16:24,259 --> 00:16:28,055 Carrillo's original man, Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, 331 00:16:28,056 --> 00:16:30,574 expanded his operations north to the border, 332 00:16:30,575 --> 00:16:32,336 forming the Tijuana Cartel. 333 00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:36,408 Juan Garcia Abrego consolidated coastal smuggling 334 00:16:36,409 --> 00:16:38,203 with prohibition roots across the mountains 335 00:16:38,204 --> 00:16:40,550 to create the Gulf Cartel. 336 00:16:40,551 --> 00:16:42,690 The Juarez Cartel was under the control 337 00:16:42,691 --> 00:16:47,281 of Rafael Aguilar Guajardo, a former commander of the DFS, 338 00:16:47,282 --> 00:16:49,283 Carrillo's alma mater. 339 00:16:49,284 --> 00:16:52,217 It is from Juarez that Carrillo resumed his air shipments 340 00:16:52,218 --> 00:16:56,393 from Columbia mere days after Pablo Acosta's funeral. 341 00:16:57,775 --> 00:17:00,087 Aguilar's former role as a federal secret policeman 342 00:17:00,088 --> 00:17:02,468 gave him unique access to the workings of traffickers 343 00:17:02,469 --> 00:17:03,883 throughout the region. 344 00:17:03,884 --> 00:17:06,265 The information most likely turned to his advantage 345 00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:08,647 in growing his cartel's influence. 346 00:17:08,648 --> 00:17:11,374 It is believed that Aguilar had an existing cocaine deal 347 00:17:11,375 --> 00:17:15,240 with Columbia's Cali Cartel before Carrillo came to Juarez. 348 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:17,207 Carrillo's connection to the Medellin traffickers 349 00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:19,797 was a welcome addition to the business. 350 00:17:21,247 --> 00:17:25,215 Then in August of 1989, Carrillo was arrested in Guadalajara 351 00:17:25,216 --> 00:17:28,184 charged with trafficking for the Colombians. 352 00:17:28,185 --> 00:17:30,910 The military confiscated six of his aircraft, 353 00:17:30,911 --> 00:17:32,774 four of them jets. 354 00:17:32,775 --> 00:17:34,638 He was released a few months later. 355 00:17:34,639 --> 00:17:36,261 He was arrested, though. 356 00:17:36,262 --> 00:17:38,987 A photograph was taken of him that was distinctly different 357 00:17:38,988 --> 00:17:41,024 from the photograph taken off him 358 00:17:41,025 --> 00:17:45,028 in Ojinaga when he applied for a border crossing card. 359 00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:46,892 The only way that I could think of for a person 360 00:17:46,893 --> 00:17:48,619 to radically alter his appearance 361 00:17:49,861 --> 00:17:51,794 like that is through plastic surgery. 362 00:17:52,933 --> 00:17:54,348 Carrillo was in prison 363 00:17:54,349 --> 00:17:56,660 when authorities discovered the 21 tons of cocaine 364 00:17:56,661 --> 00:17:58,835 in Sylmar, California. 365 00:17:58,836 --> 00:18:00,492 It is likely that the young drug lord 366 00:18:00,493 --> 00:18:03,805 had helped transport the narcotics into northern Mexico. 367 00:18:03,806 --> 00:18:05,635 I was in charge of the El Paso office 368 00:18:05,636 --> 00:18:07,395 at the time this had happened. 369 00:18:07,396 --> 00:18:08,810 We had an idea 370 00:18:08,811 --> 00:18:11,331 that there was a lot of narcotics coming across. 371 00:18:12,263 --> 00:18:15,852 We did not know the tonnage 372 00:18:15,853 --> 00:18:18,751 which came all through the El Paso corridor. 373 00:18:18,752 --> 00:18:21,789 It was all through the Amado Carrillo Fuentes organization. 374 00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:25,137 DEA in an intercept heard a conversation 375 00:18:25,138 --> 00:18:29,348 between a known drug guy in LA and a drug guy in Columbia, 376 00:18:29,349 --> 00:18:30,729 and the Colombian said, 377 00:18:30,730 --> 00:18:33,112 "They didn't get the other 20 tons, did they?" 378 00:18:34,941 --> 00:18:38,081 Sylmar terrified the American drug community 379 00:18:38,082 --> 00:18:40,359 because it blew the whistle 380 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:43,294 on how big the volume of the traffic was. 381 00:18:44,468 --> 00:18:46,434 And secondly, because they took it down 382 00:18:46,435 --> 00:18:49,644 and it never affected the price of coke on the street. 383 00:18:49,645 --> 00:18:51,025 By the spring of 1990, 384 00:18:51,026 --> 00:18:53,890 Carrillo was out of prison and the Juarez's Cartel 385 00:18:53,891 --> 00:18:56,237 was experiencing a period of relative calm. 386 00:18:57,653 --> 00:19:00,862 In contrast, Western Mexico was becoming a war zone. 387 00:19:02,693 --> 00:19:06,420 Shortly after the arrest of Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, 388 00:19:06,421 --> 00:19:07,801 Tijuana Cartel split. 389 00:19:09,113 --> 00:19:12,391 Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman and Hector Luis Palma 390 00:19:12,392 --> 00:19:14,429 formed the rival Sinaloa Cartel. 391 00:19:15,637 --> 00:19:18,156 Miguel Angel's nephews, the Arellano brothers, 392 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:21,745 arranged the revenge murder of Palma's wife and children. 393 00:19:21,746 --> 00:19:25,197 The Sinaloa Cartel retaliated by sending 40 armed gunman 394 00:19:25,198 --> 00:19:26,647 to attack a discotheque 395 00:19:26,648 --> 00:19:29,028 where one of the Arellano's was partying. 396 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:32,342 The bloodbath culminated in the 1993 assassination 397 00:19:32,343 --> 00:19:36,035 of Cardinal Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo, 398 00:19:36,036 --> 00:19:39,556 killed a firefight at Guadalajara Airport. 399 00:19:39,557 --> 00:19:44,493 What that killing did, it outraged Mexican society 400 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:50,396 and it showed just how brazen traffickers had become. 401 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,984 It showed the horrible possibilities 402 00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:57,298 of Mexico becoming another Columbia. 403 00:19:57,299 --> 00:19:59,404 The Juarez Cartel took tremendous advantage 404 00:19:59,405 --> 00:20:02,545 of this uncivil war, expanding their territory 405 00:20:02,546 --> 00:20:04,547 and offering asylum to several traffickers 406 00:20:04,548 --> 00:20:06,411 caught in the crossfire. 407 00:20:06,412 --> 00:20:08,067 Even the Colombians found themselves 408 00:20:08,068 --> 00:20:09,449 having to make compromises. 409 00:20:10,864 --> 00:20:14,488 When Carrillo decided Mexicans wouldn't simply take a fee 410 00:20:14,489 --> 00:20:18,493 to ferry Colombian coke but would move it for half the load, 411 00:20:19,701 --> 00:20:21,115 because then when they took half the load, 412 00:20:21,116 --> 00:20:23,842 they started displacing Colombians in the United States 413 00:20:23,843 --> 00:20:26,016 in the distribution system 414 00:20:26,017 --> 00:20:29,157 and that's when the roar of money hit Mexico. 415 00:20:29,158 --> 00:20:32,092 And that happened between '85 and '90, 416 00:20:33,508 --> 00:20:35,957 depending whose account and where. 417 00:20:35,958 --> 00:20:39,098 But the real architect was Amado Carrillo. 418 00:20:39,099 --> 00:20:42,620 The kid had a head for business and he had a cold heart. 419 00:20:43,863 --> 00:20:48,833 ♪ Oh 420 00:20:51,353 --> 00:20:53,113 ♪ Oh 421 00:20:59,016 --> 00:21:00,430 Carrillo streamlined the operation 422 00:21:00,431 --> 00:21:02,950 almost immediately, bringing the loose-knit cartel 423 00:21:02,951 --> 00:21:05,228 into the modern corporate era. 424 00:21:05,229 --> 00:21:07,437 He used cargo planes and passenger jets 425 00:21:07,438 --> 00:21:10,717 to transport 10 to 15 tons of cocaine at a time. 426 00:21:12,132 --> 00:21:15,031 His Python file flight plans had blended the contraband 427 00:21:15,032 --> 00:21:17,930 into legitimate commercial air traffic. 428 00:21:17,931 --> 00:21:19,725 If the flights were detected at all, 429 00:21:19,726 --> 00:21:21,555 Mexico's anti-drug aircraft 430 00:21:21,556 --> 00:21:23,282 would be left breathing jet fumes. 431 00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:26,353 It wasn't long before Carrillo was given 432 00:21:26,354 --> 00:21:29,770 his most famous alias, Lord of the Skies. 433 00:21:31,911 --> 00:21:33,912 Carrillo's growing legend made it impossible 434 00:21:33,913 --> 00:21:35,879 for him to remain hidden. 435 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,400 In November of 1993, he survived the only serious attempt 436 00:21:39,401 --> 00:21:42,023 ever known to have been made on his life. 437 00:21:42,024 --> 00:21:43,646 Amado Carrillo and his wife and children 438 00:21:43,647 --> 00:21:48,167 were eating in the evening at a fish joint, nice one. 439 00:21:48,168 --> 00:21:52,517 Suddenly a bunch of guys stormed and started shooting. 440 00:22:01,527 --> 00:22:03,597 Carrillo escaped. 441 00:22:03,598 --> 00:22:07,877 It's believed by DEA that the reason Carrillo survived 442 00:22:07,878 --> 00:22:10,466 was he'd been careful enough that even his assassins 443 00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:13,607 didn't know what he looked like and shot the wrong man. 444 00:22:13,608 --> 00:22:16,092 It is still unknown who ordered the hit. 445 00:22:16,093 --> 00:22:18,474 Some experts say it was Gulf Cartel leader 446 00:22:18,475 --> 00:22:20,959 Juan Garcia Abrego who tried to eliminate 447 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,685 his main competition. 448 00:22:22,686 --> 00:22:25,619 Others point to the Arellano brothers of Tijuana, 449 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:26,896 who were upset because Carrillo 450 00:22:26,897 --> 00:22:29,001 had fronted money to their bitter rival, 451 00:22:29,002 --> 00:22:31,072 Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman. 452 00:22:31,073 --> 00:22:33,110 They have a saying in Spanish [speaks Spanish], 453 00:22:34,214 --> 00:22:36,630 that means silver or lead. 454 00:22:36,631 --> 00:22:38,735 You take the money or you get a bullet. 455 00:22:38,736 --> 00:22:41,773 And that's how these guys operate. 456 00:22:41,774 --> 00:22:43,913 Carrillo paid his loyal followers well. 457 00:22:43,914 --> 00:22:47,434 Conversely, he showed little mercy for the disobedient. 458 00:22:47,435 --> 00:22:50,195 And security leaks, intentional or accidental, 459 00:22:50,196 --> 00:22:53,061 were treated with the same swift surgical response. 460 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:57,375 Carrillo was famous for the idea that if a load's lost, 461 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:59,377 you kill everyone connected with it. 462 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:01,309 That way you get the traitor. 463 00:23:01,310 --> 00:23:02,207 And he did. 464 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,385 Carrillo took in '93 and '94 to killing people 465 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,110 where he wanted the bodies found 466 00:23:09,111 --> 00:23:12,942 and they were tying them with yellow ribbons as a message. 467 00:23:12,943 --> 00:23:14,978 Gradually, Amado progressed. 468 00:23:14,979 --> 00:23:18,188 He apparently owned the only tiger in Juarez. 469 00:23:18,189 --> 00:23:19,776 There's a history among drug guys 470 00:23:19,777 --> 00:23:21,882 of liking to own big predators. 471 00:23:21,883 --> 00:23:24,574 In '96, the tiger escaped, actually, 472 00:23:24,575 --> 00:23:26,611 and ran around in the streets there. 473 00:23:26,612 --> 00:23:27,853 It was captured 474 00:23:27,854 --> 00:23:29,786 and sent to Ciudad Chihuahua, the capital, 475 00:23:29,787 --> 00:23:31,995 to be placed in that zoo. 476 00:23:31,996 --> 00:23:35,999 About that time, drug killings started appearing 477 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,519 where the people would be dead, executed, hands tied, 478 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,315 shot through the head, but would be delicately draped 479 00:23:41,316 --> 00:23:45,319 with these cheap tapestries with tigers on them. 480 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,978 If you're found in this fashion, it's to send a message. 481 00:23:48,979 --> 00:23:52,395 It's a form of policing and it was rigorous 482 00:23:52,396 --> 00:23:54,432 and Carrillo was very good at it. 483 00:23:55,572 --> 00:23:56,813 Under Carrillo's reign, 484 00:23:56,814 --> 00:23:58,643 Juarez was a city under siege, 485 00:23:58,644 --> 00:24:00,439 choking on the violence of its ruler. 486 00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:05,028 In contrast, the drug lord's hometown of Guamuchilito 487 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:07,341 benefited from the drug lord's largesse. 488 00:24:08,895 --> 00:24:11,414 He was very good with all of the people. 489 00:24:11,415 --> 00:24:13,900 What did he do here for example? 490 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:17,869 The main thing he did was build the church. 491 00:24:17,870 --> 00:24:19,491 The locals there love him. 492 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:22,495 For people who live in that area, poor farmers, 493 00:24:23,772 --> 00:24:27,499 he's money, he's wealth, and he's a father figure. 494 00:24:30,261 --> 00:24:32,400 Late December of 1994, 495 00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:36,128 the value of Mexico's currency on the open market plummets. 496 00:24:36,129 --> 00:24:38,752 Like most drug traffickers, Carrillo kept his fortune 497 00:24:38,753 --> 00:24:42,066 in US dollars and soon found himself 30% richer. 498 00:24:43,067 --> 00:24:45,621 In 1995, however, events conspire 499 00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:48,314 to make Carrillo's empire even more profitable. 500 00:24:49,798 --> 00:24:52,351 Columbian police arrested the Rodriguez Orejuela brothers, 501 00:24:52,352 --> 00:24:55,528 Carrillo's primary contacts in the Cali Cartel. 502 00:24:56,702 --> 00:24:59,324 With the Medellin Cartel in similar disarray, 503 00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:01,429 Carrillo arranged for the direct purchase of cocaine 504 00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:04,329 from farmers in Bolivia and Peru. 505 00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:07,470 What Carrillo really did was become 506 00:25:07,471 --> 00:25:10,611 almost the single broker of cocaine. 507 00:25:10,612 --> 00:25:11,888 And he held two meetings 508 00:25:11,889 --> 00:25:14,373 with the other capos, heads of cartels, 509 00:25:14,374 --> 00:25:18,136 "And here's the offer: I'll broker the cocaine, 510 00:25:18,137 --> 00:25:20,172 and we don't fight over territory. 511 00:25:20,173 --> 00:25:23,072 And you just come to me, I'll sell it to you wholesale. 512 00:25:23,073 --> 00:25:24,625 I won't try and hog it. 513 00:25:24,626 --> 00:25:26,593 And then we just all have our little thing 514 00:25:26,594 --> 00:25:27,973 as far as distribution in the United States, 515 00:25:27,974 --> 00:25:30,528 and we live at peace." 516 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,322 Because Amado Carrillo was smart enough 517 00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,602 to know that wars expensive than peace is. 518 00:25:36,155 --> 00:25:39,260 Now Colombians recognized the threat for what it was. 519 00:25:39,261 --> 00:25:41,228 Carrillo had both the resources and power 520 00:25:41,229 --> 00:25:44,680 to significantly cut them out of the United States market, 521 00:25:44,681 --> 00:25:46,440 a market that consumes an estimated 522 00:25:46,441 --> 00:25:49,754 400 tons of cocaine every year. 523 00:25:49,755 --> 00:25:51,410 In the end, the Colombians relinquished 524 00:25:51,411 --> 00:25:54,275 part of their distribution network in New York City 525 00:25:54,276 --> 00:25:56,519 to the Mexican drug lord. 526 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,557 There was a point in the mid '90s 527 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:02,007 in which Amado could traffic cocaine 528 00:26:02,008 --> 00:26:05,839 all along the entire nearly 2000-mile long border. 529 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,117 He could even go through Tijuana 530 00:26:08,118 --> 00:26:10,119 up into San Diego and Los Angeles, 531 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,879 even though some of his bitter rivals were there, 532 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,159 the Arellano-Felix gang, notorious for violence. 533 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,369 But Amado was always a peacemaker. 534 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:20,716 He believed, you know, 535 00:26:20,717 --> 00:26:23,063 as Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo taught him, 536 00:26:23,064 --> 00:26:26,722 that it's much better to work with your brother trafficker 537 00:26:26,723 --> 00:26:28,655 and make money than to kill him. 538 00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:30,553 If you gotta kill him, you gotta kill him. 539 00:26:30,554 --> 00:26:33,038 But work together and you can just make a min, 540 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,488 and that's what he did for many years. 541 00:26:34,489 --> 00:26:37,111 He created a monster, I think. 542 00:26:37,112 --> 00:26:39,148 Before that, Mexico had always had 543 00:26:39,149 --> 00:26:41,599 four, five, six, seven, 10 cartels. 544 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,117 Who the hell knows? 545 00:26:43,118 --> 00:26:45,361 And essentially the government could always stay on top 546 00:26:45,362 --> 00:26:47,743 by playing one against the other. 547 00:26:47,744 --> 00:26:51,436 He consolidated and became as big as the government. 548 00:26:51,437 --> 00:26:53,541 At every turn, DEA and other agencies 549 00:26:53,542 --> 00:26:55,095 were stymied by a lack of support 550 00:26:55,096 --> 00:26:57,407 from their Mexican counterparts. 551 00:26:57,408 --> 00:26:58,857 Carrillo's protection extended 552 00:26:58,858 --> 00:27:00,860 high into the echelons of power. 553 00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:04,829 Dramatic evidence of Carrillo's top level collusion 554 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:08,108 surfaced a few years later in US federal court. 555 00:27:08,109 --> 00:27:10,766 Raul Macias, formerly of the Mexican Federal 556 00:27:10,767 --> 00:27:14,079 Judicial Police, testified that the local highway patrol 557 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,564 had intercepted one of Carrillo's infamous air shipments 558 00:27:16,565 --> 00:27:18,843 in the northern state of Zacatecas. 559 00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:22,812 The huge full body jet put down on a dirt runway. 560 00:27:22,813 --> 00:27:25,435 It was like a 727 or 707. 561 00:27:25,436 --> 00:27:27,368 No seats, full of cocaine. 562 00:27:27,369 --> 00:27:28,887 Typical Carrillo operation. 563 00:27:28,888 --> 00:27:30,751 He had a fleet of them. 564 00:27:30,752 --> 00:27:31,925 Macias testified 565 00:27:31,926 --> 00:27:33,271 that when he and the other Federales 566 00:27:33,272 --> 00:27:35,756 arrived on the scene, his commanding officer 567 00:27:35,757 --> 00:27:38,069 ordered the highway patrolmen to stand down. 568 00:27:42,074 --> 00:27:45,697 Macias then helped load the contraband onto waiting trucks. 569 00:27:45,698 --> 00:27:48,769 Macias also testified that inside police headquarters 570 00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:50,668 he was ordered to replace the cocaine 571 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:53,153 with wood and other combustibles. 572 00:27:53,154 --> 00:27:56,018 The cocaine meanwhile was loaded onto a large truck, 573 00:27:56,019 --> 00:27:59,573 presumably for delivery to one of Carrillo's underlings. 574 00:27:59,574 --> 00:28:02,610 The wood was then burned, masquerading as cocaine 575 00:28:02,611 --> 00:28:04,683 in a public ceremony of destruction. 576 00:28:05,856 --> 00:28:08,720 This exemplifies the type of operations 577 00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:10,446 that Amado Carrillo Fuentes had. 578 00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:12,103 I can guarantee you that none 579 00:28:12,104 --> 00:28:15,175 of the 10 tons were destroyed, okay? 580 00:28:15,176 --> 00:28:17,522 Eventually, they found themselves 581 00:28:17,523 --> 00:28:19,627 back into the American market. 582 00:28:19,628 --> 00:28:22,872 Everything we shared with the Mexican government 583 00:28:22,873 --> 00:28:24,909 through the drug czar 584 00:28:24,910 --> 00:28:27,290 would immediately be reported to Amado Carrillo Fuentes. 585 00:28:27,291 --> 00:28:30,536 In the spring of '96, somebody in DEA 586 00:28:31,986 --> 00:28:35,886 shared informants with somebody in the Mexican war on drugs. 587 00:28:37,336 --> 00:28:39,061 And for three months after that, 588 00:28:39,062 --> 00:28:41,408 bodies littered the streets of Juarez. 589 00:28:43,066 --> 00:28:46,413 They're instantly translating the names given to the cartel. 590 00:28:49,175 --> 00:28:50,900 US customs agents intercept 591 00:28:50,901 --> 00:28:53,592 close to a million pounds of narcotics every year. 592 00:28:56,527 --> 00:28:58,149 The agency has had great success 593 00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:00,496 with its domestic air interdiction division 594 00:29:00,497 --> 00:29:03,154 which monitors air traffic across the nation. 595 00:29:03,155 --> 00:29:06,433 When customs identifies an illegal airborne shipment, 596 00:29:06,434 --> 00:29:08,055 agents go on the offensive, 597 00:29:08,056 --> 00:29:11,024 tracking and chasing suspects until they are forced to land. 598 00:29:11,025 --> 00:29:12,197 Ah the guy's jumping. 599 00:29:12,198 --> 00:29:13,923 He's thrown something out. 600 00:29:13,924 --> 00:29:15,062 Drop a load. 601 00:29:16,168 --> 00:29:17,789 At the border crossing, 602 00:29:17,790 --> 00:29:20,792 gamma ray and backscatter X-ray imaging devices 603 00:29:20,793 --> 00:29:22,000 peer deep into the vehicles 604 00:29:22,001 --> 00:29:25,314 to expose expertly hidden narcotics. 605 00:29:25,315 --> 00:29:28,524 Even with the latest technologies employed to stem the flow 606 00:29:28,525 --> 00:29:31,872 of drugs into the United States, weak links remain. 607 00:29:31,873 --> 00:29:33,805 The border with the most traffic on earth 608 00:29:33,806 --> 00:29:36,325 is the United States and Mexico. 609 00:29:36,326 --> 00:29:40,122 1/4 of a billion human beings cross it every year. 610 00:29:40,123 --> 00:29:41,986 There's no way to police it. 611 00:29:41,987 --> 00:29:46,542 US customs doesn't inspect 10% of the vehicles coming in. 612 00:29:46,543 --> 00:29:49,200 What that means is if you just threw the dope in the trunk 613 00:29:49,201 --> 00:29:52,755 and said, "The hell with it,' 90% would get through. 614 00:29:52,756 --> 00:29:55,585 At the border, the odds favor the trafficker. 615 00:29:55,586 --> 00:29:57,449 When cocaine first enters Mexico, 616 00:29:57,450 --> 00:30:00,832 its wholesale price is approximately $2,000 per kilo, 617 00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:02,801 equal to about 2.2 pounds. 618 00:30:03,871 --> 00:30:05,285 By the time it reaches the border, 619 00:30:05,286 --> 00:30:08,736 that same cocaine is worth approximately $5,000. 620 00:30:08,737 --> 00:30:10,048 Once it crosses a border, 621 00:30:10,049 --> 00:30:12,602 the cocaine can fetch up to $20,000 wholesale 622 00:30:12,603 --> 00:30:15,710 with a street price that is potentially much higher. 623 00:30:17,125 --> 00:30:20,438 Even if you assume a remarkable confiscation rate of 50%, 624 00:30:20,439 --> 00:30:21,647 the cartel still closed 200 to 500% profit. 625 00:30:24,857 --> 00:30:26,271 And when you factor in the potential 626 00:30:26,272 --> 00:30:28,446 for corruption of US officials, 627 00:30:28,447 --> 00:30:30,310 the odds improved even further. 628 00:30:30,311 --> 00:30:33,623 There is documentation, there's cases where inspectors 629 00:30:33,624 --> 00:30:37,731 have been paid up to $ 1 million to look the other way 630 00:30:37,732 --> 00:30:41,183 as a load of cocaine goes through the port. 631 00:30:41,184 --> 00:30:43,116 If you look at a checkpoint on the border 632 00:30:43,117 --> 00:30:45,359 and there's 30 guys working there, 633 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,016 you'd have to be a fool to buy 30. 634 00:30:47,017 --> 00:30:48,122 You only need one. 635 00:30:49,917 --> 00:30:52,919 Just run it when he's on or she's on. 636 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,748 You don't have to corrupt many. 637 00:30:54,749 --> 00:30:56,681 And I'll tell you what to do next then. 638 00:30:56,682 --> 00:31:00,133 To protect your boy, you throw that guy a load. 639 00:31:00,134 --> 00:31:01,651 You say, "There's a Buick coming through 640 00:31:01,652 --> 00:31:05,310 with 200 pounds of coke in the trunk," so he looks clean. 641 00:31:05,311 --> 00:31:07,381 That's done all the time. 642 00:31:07,382 --> 00:31:09,383 That's 'cause the money's too big in drugs. 643 00:31:09,384 --> 00:31:12,629 Drugs corrupts everything and everyone. 644 00:31:13,457 --> 00:31:18,531 ♪ Oh 645 00:31:21,569 --> 00:31:23,398 ♪ Oh 646 00:31:28,541 --> 00:31:30,680 The Juarez Cartel had only one consistent 647 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,442 vulnerability: its cash flow. 648 00:31:33,443 --> 00:31:35,651 Until the gargantuan profits have been laundered 649 00:31:35,652 --> 00:31:37,687 into legitimate-looking dollars, 650 00:31:37,688 --> 00:31:39,793 Carrillo couldn't touch them. 651 00:31:39,794 --> 00:31:43,901 Drug money is not hiding in the ground in 55 gallon drums. 652 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:47,490 Drug money is in commerce with the rest of the money. 653 00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:49,907 It gets there because money launderers 654 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:51,529 use the same facilities 655 00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:55,188 that legitimate corporations use who earn money. 656 00:31:55,189 --> 00:31:57,707 The laundering process was surprisingly simple. 657 00:31:57,708 --> 00:32:00,365 By secret arrangement between trafficker and banker, 658 00:32:00,366 --> 00:32:02,712 cash generated from drug sales in the US 659 00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:04,818 was smuggled back into Mexico 660 00:32:04,819 --> 00:32:07,786 and deposited in any one of several Mexican banks. 661 00:32:07,787 --> 00:32:09,409 The bank would then issue the trafficker 662 00:32:09,410 --> 00:32:12,446 or his representative bank drafts in US dollars 663 00:32:12,447 --> 00:32:15,691 drawn on the Mexican bank's accounts at major US banks. 664 00:32:15,692 --> 00:32:17,486 The cash itself would then make its way 665 00:32:17,487 --> 00:32:19,764 back across the border by armored car 666 00:32:19,765 --> 00:32:21,835 and be deposited in the US. 667 00:32:21,836 --> 00:32:23,630 The bank drafts were then free to be laundered 668 00:32:23,631 --> 00:32:24,907 into legitimate business 669 00:32:24,908 --> 00:32:27,047 and real estate holdings around the world. 670 00:32:27,048 --> 00:32:31,327 San Antonio, Texas has a $3 billion surplus 671 00:32:31,328 --> 00:32:34,744 every year in its banking system that cannot be accounted 672 00:32:34,745 --> 00:32:38,093 by any calculus in the legitimate economy. 673 00:32:38,094 --> 00:32:43,133 Miami's 20 billion, El Paso is 750 million. 674 00:32:44,410 --> 00:32:45,963 But if you wanted to hurt drugs by hurting money, 675 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,344 you'd hurt it on both sides. 676 00:32:48,345 --> 00:32:52,348 But one side can bite you, meaning banking in this country. 677 00:32:52,349 --> 00:32:54,799 The biggest lobby for the NAFTA treaty 678 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,697 didn't exist in Mexico. 679 00:32:56,698 --> 00:33:00,529 It existed in the US financial institutions 680 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:03,083 because they were the beneficiaries 681 00:33:03,084 --> 00:33:05,672 of all the money the Mexican banks 682 00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:08,261 and corporations would bring to the United States. 683 00:33:08,262 --> 00:33:11,022 They're investing it overnight and earning from it. 684 00:33:11,023 --> 00:33:12,990 At his peak, Carrillo was making 685 00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:15,751 an estimated $10 billion a year. 686 00:33:15,752 --> 00:33:17,925 In that same time, it is belief he was paying 687 00:33:17,926 --> 00:33:21,722 500 to $800 million in bribes. 688 00:33:21,723 --> 00:33:24,035 Having risen to the top of his profession, 689 00:33:24,036 --> 00:33:25,899 there is evidence that the Lord of the Skies 690 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:27,866 was looking for a way out. 691 00:33:27,867 --> 00:33:32,388 In January of 1997, Amado Carrillo Fuentes 692 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:34,908 through an emissary, sent a message 693 00:33:34,909 --> 00:33:38,153 to the President of Mexico, Ernesto Zedillo. 694 00:33:38,154 --> 00:33:41,466 He said, "I want you to stop harassing me. 695 00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:43,917 I want you to leave my business alone. 696 00:33:43,918 --> 00:33:46,402 I want you to leave my family alone. 697 00:33:46,403 --> 00:33:51,443 If you do that, I won't dump any dope in this country. 698 00:33:52,547 --> 00:33:53,547 If you don't, I'll leave this country 699 00:33:53,548 --> 00:33:55,515 and your economy will collapse." 700 00:33:55,516 --> 00:33:59,622 And that's absolutely true, it would, because in 1997, 701 00:33:59,623 --> 00:34:03,661 Pemex was the biggest legal export, petroleum in Mexico. 702 00:34:03,662 --> 00:34:06,077 It earned 7 to 8 billion a year. 703 00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:11,083 And in 1997, that same year, cocaine, marijuana, heroin, 704 00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,361 was earning Mexico 30 to 32 billion. 705 00:34:14,362 --> 00:34:16,225 The ultimatum may have been in response 706 00:34:16,226 --> 00:34:19,677 to the January 6th raid on his family's compound in Sinaloa. 707 00:34:19,678 --> 00:34:22,024 Carrillo's sister was getting married 708 00:34:22,025 --> 00:34:24,337 and he had flown home for the occasion. 709 00:34:24,338 --> 00:34:26,373 The police intended to capture the drug lord 710 00:34:26,374 --> 00:34:28,582 while he was relatively unprotected. 711 00:34:28,583 --> 00:34:30,515 But an anonymous phone call tipped Carrillo off 712 00:34:30,516 --> 00:34:32,966 before the police could arrive. 713 00:34:32,967 --> 00:34:34,381 Given how much money he was said 714 00:34:34,382 --> 00:34:36,625 to be paying the government for protection, 715 00:34:36,626 --> 00:34:39,593 it is likely Carrillo viewed the raid as an insult. 716 00:34:39,594 --> 00:34:43,701 Amado, according to his lawyer and others, 717 00:34:43,702 --> 00:34:45,186 was a real nationalist. 718 00:34:47,188 --> 00:34:49,500 He said that someone had to get their hands dirty 719 00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:52,123 for the sake of Mexico, and if that meant moving drugs, 720 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:54,091 well, let's move them if it helps the economy, 721 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,023 if it helps Mexico. 722 00:34:56,024 --> 00:34:57,922 This wedding video is some of the only 723 00:34:57,923 --> 00:35:00,718 known footage of Amado Carrillo Fuentes. 724 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,029 He looks like hell. 725 00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:04,515 He looks like a CEO who spent three weeks 726 00:35:04,516 --> 00:35:07,242 on a corporate merger and hasn't slept 727 00:35:07,243 --> 00:35:09,969 and has been living off either whiskey or cocaine. 728 00:35:11,178 --> 00:35:14,525 And you can tell he's a man under pressure 729 00:35:14,526 --> 00:35:16,596 and that it's getting to him. 730 00:35:16,597 --> 00:35:19,392 It's like watching "Scarface," the last reel. 731 00:35:20,946 --> 00:35:22,395 In February of '97, 732 00:35:22,396 --> 00:35:24,191 Carrillo's empire began to shatter. 733 00:35:25,261 --> 00:35:27,400 General Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, 734 00:35:27,401 --> 00:35:30,472 recently appointed Mexico's newest anti-drug czar, 735 00:35:30,473 --> 00:35:32,819 was discovered to be living in a luxury apartment 736 00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:34,165 paid for by Carrillo. 737 00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:37,237 It was a scandal, a huge scandal. 738 00:35:37,238 --> 00:35:40,516 You know, to have the head of your anti-drug agency 739 00:35:40,517 --> 00:35:41,655 to be on the payroll 740 00:35:41,656 --> 00:35:43,450 of the country's biggest drug trafficker. 741 00:35:43,451 --> 00:35:46,798 It's kind of like having somebody working at Los Alamos 742 00:35:46,799 --> 00:35:51,182 and giving all of our nuclear secrets to the Chinese. 743 00:35:51,183 --> 00:35:53,150 The General's arrest came a mere two weeks 744 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,979 after having been in Washington DC 745 00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:57,602 to meet with US drug czar, Barry McCaffrey, 746 00:35:57,603 --> 00:36:01,019 and discuss confidential counter-narcotics operations. 747 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:03,712 To the press, McCaffrey even expressed his belief 748 00:36:03,713 --> 00:36:07,336 that the General was an officer of highest integrity. 749 00:36:07,337 --> 00:36:09,994 After he was appointed, General Gutierrez Rebollo 750 00:36:09,995 --> 00:36:11,479 had a meeting with reporters. 751 00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:14,619 He said, "You know, the problem isn't these big 752 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:16,518 drug cartels in Mexico. 753 00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:17,829 You gotta be real concerned about 754 00:36:17,830 --> 00:36:20,591 these little cartels, the cartelitos. 755 00:36:20,592 --> 00:36:21,902 They're the ones that are really 756 00:36:21,903 --> 00:36:23,352 much more important than the big guys 757 00:36:23,353 --> 00:36:25,561 'cause if you add them all up, they're bigger." 758 00:36:25,562 --> 00:36:27,218 He was telegraphing his message. 759 00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:29,600 He was saying, "I'm not going after Amado." 760 00:36:29,601 --> 00:36:34,640 ♪ Oh 761 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:38,989 ♪ Oh 762 00:36:44,132 --> 00:36:45,685 Every year, the United States 763 00:36:45,686 --> 00:36:48,239 scrutinizes cooperative anti-drug efforts around the world 764 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,621 in the process known as certification. 765 00:36:50,622 --> 00:36:53,417 Countries that fail the review face trade penalties. 766 00:36:53,418 --> 00:36:54,728 The government and the media 767 00:36:54,729 --> 00:36:56,627 have unearthed new information 768 00:36:56,628 --> 00:36:58,732 confirming previous suspicions 769 00:36:58,733 --> 00:37:00,665 about the extent of narco corruption 770 00:37:00,666 --> 00:37:02,564 within Mexican institutions. 771 00:37:02,565 --> 00:37:07,431 This connection between Gutierrez and Amado was exposed 772 00:37:07,432 --> 00:37:09,881 by the government of Mexico itself. 773 00:37:09,882 --> 00:37:13,471 Mexico's failure to confront these cartels 774 00:37:13,472 --> 00:37:18,304 does not protect a single child on any street of any city 775 00:37:18,305 --> 00:37:20,029 in the United States of America. 776 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:22,342 We stand by the decision, obviously, 777 00:37:22,343 --> 00:37:25,828 to have the United States certify Mexico 778 00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:28,590 and we're very much opposed to the efforts in Congress 779 00:37:28,591 --> 00:37:30,281 to reverse that decision 780 00:37:30,282 --> 00:37:32,697 because we don't see how it helps the United States 781 00:37:32,698 --> 00:37:36,080 to walk away from Mexico when both of us are together, 782 00:37:36,081 --> 00:37:38,807 working together in a fight in the drug wars. 783 00:37:38,808 --> 00:37:40,774 It's almost become a ritual now. 784 00:37:40,775 --> 00:37:43,777 Every time certification comes up in February, 785 00:37:43,778 --> 00:37:46,332 the Mexicans end up offering something, a sacrifice. 786 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:50,543 It was a tremendous shock to all of us 787 00:37:50,544 --> 00:37:54,962 to have this General Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo revealed, 788 00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:58,620 alleged to be a criminal. 789 00:37:58,621 --> 00:38:00,622 There's two things about certification, 790 00:38:00,623 --> 00:38:02,175 I think everybody should know. 791 00:38:02,176 --> 00:38:03,728 One, it's a total fraud. 792 00:38:03,729 --> 00:38:06,248 It doesn't change anything in Mexico. 793 00:38:06,249 --> 00:38:09,458 And two, it's a preposterous action. 794 00:38:09,459 --> 00:38:12,910 The country that should be decertified is the United States 795 00:38:12,911 --> 00:38:15,671 with 5% of the world's population 796 00:38:15,672 --> 00:38:19,157 and it knows it sucks up half the world's cocaine. 797 00:38:19,158 --> 00:38:21,850 It is just a damn lie to say the Mexicans 798 00:38:21,851 --> 00:38:23,749 are ruining our country with drugs. 799 00:38:24,957 --> 00:38:29,513 Any demand for drugs will create a market. 800 00:38:29,514 --> 00:38:32,101 The drugs will be here as long as we want to buy them. 801 00:38:32,102 --> 00:38:35,760 If it's not the Mexican, somebody else will bring them. 802 00:38:35,761 --> 00:38:38,729 But this is our problem, not theirs. 803 00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:41,318 After the General's arrest, 804 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:42,975 Carrillo went underground. 805 00:38:44,149 --> 00:38:46,392 During this time, he was reportedly seen in Cuba, 806 00:38:46,393 --> 00:38:49,049 in Europe, and as far away as Russia. 807 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:51,120 Officials eventually learned that he was preparing 808 00:38:51,121 --> 00:38:54,745 to move his operations out of the country and down to Chile. 809 00:38:54,746 --> 00:38:57,748 If he was no longer welcome in Mexico, it was reasoned, 810 00:38:57,749 --> 00:38:59,508 then Carrillo would then run his drug empire 811 00:38:59,509 --> 00:39:01,753 from the very bottom of the world. 812 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,375 But Carrillo surprised everyone 813 00:39:04,376 --> 00:39:07,309 when he returned to Mexico City in July of '97, 814 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:09,898 ready to undergo plastic surgery. 815 00:39:09,899 --> 00:39:12,659 He checked into the hospital under an assumed name. 816 00:39:14,490 --> 00:39:16,836 For over nine hours, a team of four doctors 817 00:39:16,837 --> 00:39:18,700 operated on Carrillo. 818 00:39:18,701 --> 00:39:22,048 Radical liposuction removed 20 pounds of fat. 819 00:39:22,049 --> 00:39:24,844 Facial sculpting altered his appearance. 820 00:39:24,845 --> 00:39:28,054 In the end, however, an overdose of the tranquilizer, 821 00:39:28,055 --> 00:39:31,196 Dormicum, kept Carrillo from ever leaving the table. 822 00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:34,163 When officials learned that Carrillo had died 823 00:39:34,164 --> 00:39:35,958 under such bizarre circumstances, 824 00:39:35,959 --> 00:39:38,305 few were willing to believe it. 825 00:39:38,306 --> 00:39:40,446 After all, it wouldn't have been the first time 826 00:39:40,447 --> 00:39:42,309 a fugitive had faked his own death 827 00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:44,796 by leaving an unrecognizable corpse. 828 00:39:52,631 --> 00:39:54,770 It so happens that the DEA or the FBI, I'm not sure, 829 00:39:54,771 --> 00:39:56,496 but a couple of agents were allowed 830 00:39:56,497 --> 00:39:59,741 to take fingerprints of the body 831 00:39:59,742 --> 00:40:03,020 and a comparison was made with the fingerprint, 832 00:40:03,021 --> 00:40:05,747 the thumbprint of Amado's border crossing card 833 00:40:05,748 --> 00:40:07,439 that was issued to him in 1985. 834 00:40:08,336 --> 00:40:09,992 This allowed Thomas Constantine, 835 00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:12,305 who was DEA Director at the time, 836 00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:13,893 to announce even before the Mexicans did, 837 00:40:13,894 --> 00:40:17,759 that it was, in fact, Amado, and I think that's correct. 838 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,208 Four months later, 839 00:40:19,209 --> 00:40:20,486 the bodies of Carrillo's doctors 840 00:40:20,487 --> 00:40:22,695 were discovered stuffed inside oil drums 841 00:40:22,696 --> 00:40:25,111 along the side of a deserted highway. 842 00:40:25,112 --> 00:40:27,078 They had been extensively tortured. 843 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:30,219 It's widely believed that the family members 844 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:31,636 did this to the doctors. 845 00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:33,809 That's very likely. 846 00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:37,192 The family wanted to find out why Amado died 847 00:40:37,193 --> 00:40:39,263 and so they tortured people to death 848 00:40:39,264 --> 00:40:40,851 to try to find out what the truth is. 849 00:40:42,405 --> 00:40:45,407 Through sources, I know of a person 850 00:40:45,408 --> 00:40:47,341 who saw the body the night he died, 851 00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:51,068 and he said the sutures weren't even stitched. 852 00:40:51,069 --> 00:40:53,657 Well, plastic surgeons closed the sutures. 853 00:40:53,658 --> 00:40:55,452 You're paying to not have scars. 854 00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:57,799 That's the whole idea to change your appearance, 855 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,042 which would suggest somebody deliberately 856 00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:01,492 killed him by injection. 857 00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:04,495 The question there is, "Who injected the chemical?" 858 00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:05,462 You know. 859 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:06,773 Did the government kill him? 860 00:41:06,774 --> 00:41:08,706 Members of his own cartel? 861 00:41:08,707 --> 00:41:10,397 Another cartel? 862 00:41:10,398 --> 00:41:13,435 American law enforcement or the CIA? 863 00:41:13,436 --> 00:41:15,610 Mexican authorities are convinced it was murder, 864 00:41:15,611 --> 00:41:17,370 but they haven't offered any evidence. 865 00:41:17,371 --> 00:41:20,753 My theory is that he really did die under plastic surgery. 866 00:41:20,754 --> 00:41:23,859 He had been using crack cocaine for at least 10 years. 867 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:26,862 That has a tendency to degenerate your organs, 868 00:41:26,863 --> 00:41:28,450 your heart, your liver. 869 00:41:28,451 --> 00:41:32,247 What the truth is, probably the Carrillo family, 870 00:41:32,248 --> 00:41:34,318 they're the only ones who will ever know. 871 00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:36,148 ♪ Oh 872 00:41:41,706 --> 00:41:43,534 Carrillo's sudden death the power vacuum 873 00:41:43,535 --> 00:41:45,640 in the Mexican underworld. 874 00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:47,504 Within the Juarez Cartel itself, 875 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,679 no clear replacement for Carrillo has yet emerged. 876 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,992 After the death of Amado Carrillo Fuentes, 877 00:41:52,993 --> 00:41:55,304 a drug war in the true sense 878 00:41:55,305 --> 00:41:57,928 of narco traffickers fighting each other emerged. 879 00:42:02,658 --> 00:42:05,245 We like to say Mexico has been relatively quiet. 880 00:42:05,246 --> 00:42:07,869 The FBI figures there's been 1000 murders 881 00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:10,147 in Mexico in the last 24 months. 882 00:42:10,148 --> 00:42:11,389 I think that's low. 883 00:42:14,255 --> 00:42:16,187 One of the emerging figures is a guy 884 00:42:16,188 --> 00:42:20,088 by the name of Juan Jose Esparragoza Moreno. 885 00:42:20,089 --> 00:42:23,056 His nickname is El Azul, Blue, that means. 886 00:42:23,057 --> 00:42:25,749 He got that because his skin is so dark 887 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:29,373 it resembles the blue-black sheen of a polished gun barrel. 888 00:42:29,374 --> 00:42:33,411 El Azul is one of the last old time traffickers 889 00:42:33,412 --> 00:42:35,586 who really believes in peace and unity. 890 00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:37,726 And according to the FBI and DEA, 891 00:42:37,727 --> 00:42:40,936 he's back and he's big in the Juarez Cartel. 892 00:42:40,937 --> 00:42:43,214 Frankly, I think when the new Amado arrives, 893 00:42:43,215 --> 00:42:44,491 we'll never know his name 894 00:42:44,492 --> 00:42:47,425 'cause he doesn't wanna become dead like Amado. 895 00:42:47,426 --> 00:42:49,635 It has been said that if Amado Carrillo Fuentes 896 00:42:49,636 --> 00:42:52,292 had been offered the presidency of Mexico, 897 00:42:52,293 --> 00:42:54,192 you would've considered it a demotion. 898 00:42:55,434 --> 00:42:57,401 And whether powerful drug lords hold sway 899 00:42:57,402 --> 00:42:59,023 over the Mexican government 900 00:42:59,024 --> 00:43:02,233 or the Mexican government holds sway over the drug lords, 901 00:43:02,234 --> 00:43:03,994 in the end, the citizens of Mexico 902 00:43:03,995 --> 00:43:06,722 are left with the same familiar question [speaks Spanish], 903 00:43:09,172 --> 00:43:12,002 silver or lead? 904 00:43:12,003 --> 00:43:14,867 Will they turn a blind eye to the corruption and complicity 905 00:43:14,868 --> 00:43:18,111 or will they fight the Amado Carrillo Fuentes of the world? 906 00:43:18,112 --> 00:43:22,150 We have in the past won major battles, 907 00:43:22,151 --> 00:43:24,911 but we're still a long ways from winning the war. 908 00:43:24,912 --> 00:43:28,708 Amado Carrillo died in July of 1997. 909 00:43:28,709 --> 00:43:30,745 I haven't run into a single American who says, 910 00:43:30,746 --> 00:43:33,471 "I can't find any coke and I can't afford it." 911 00:43:33,472 --> 00:43:36,165 Heroin's so damn cheap now people won't inject it, 912 00:43:37,235 --> 00:43:38,339 they just snort it. 913 00:43:39,168 --> 00:43:40,582 No, no, his death meant nothing. 914 00:43:40,583 --> 00:43:42,446 It was like the death of the head of General Motors. 915 00:43:42,447 --> 00:43:44,622 The Chevys just keep rolling off the line. 916 00:43:45,761 --> 00:43:47,727 But you have to give the devil his due. 917 00:43:47,728 --> 00:43:49,385 You build something durable. 918 00:43:50,697 --> 00:43:53,250 In Mexico, if you ask people about Amado Carrillo, 919 00:43:53,251 --> 00:43:55,355 ordinary Joe Six-Pack on the street is gonna say, 920 00:43:55,356 --> 00:43:57,392 "Well, he's still alive." 921 00:43:57,393 --> 00:44:00,188 You know, there's such belief in his myth, his power, 922 00:44:00,189 --> 00:44:04,123 his legend, that some Mexicans think he couldn't be dead. 923 00:44:04,124 --> 00:44:05,089 He's the Lord of the Skies. 924 00:44:05,090 --> 00:44:05,953 He can't die. 74688

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