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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,522 --> 00:00:08,248 They were forced into existence by warring dynasties 2 00:00:08,249 --> 00:00:10,355 and driven underground to grow in power. 3 00:00:11,632 --> 00:00:13,495 For centuries, their global reach has increased 4 00:00:13,496 --> 00:00:14,806 through fear, symbolism, 5 00:00:14,807 --> 00:00:16,223 blood rights, and secrecy. 6 00:00:17,707 --> 00:00:19,328 There is no criminal act so despicable 7 00:00:19,329 --> 00:00:21,296 in which they do not eagerly participate 8 00:00:21,297 --> 00:00:23,988 if an illegal profit can be made. 9 00:00:23,989 --> 00:00:26,266 Use their name with caution. 10 00:00:26,267 --> 00:00:27,165 It is Triad. 11 00:00:59,542 --> 00:01:00,783 Back at a time when nomadic tribes 12 00:01:00,784 --> 00:01:02,647 still roamed North America 13 00:01:02,648 --> 00:01:05,064 an already ancient civilization on the other side 14 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:06,306 of the globe was giving birth 15 00:01:06,307 --> 00:01:08,240 to a sophisticated organization. 16 00:01:09,241 --> 00:01:10,793 In recent years, this organization 17 00:01:10,794 --> 00:01:12,830 has grown into a global network, 18 00:01:12,831 --> 00:01:14,694 controlling the lives of millions of people 19 00:01:14,695 --> 00:01:16,386 by terror and intimidation. 20 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:20,148 Today we know them as the triads... 21 00:01:22,185 --> 00:01:23,634 but it was in the 17th century 22 00:01:23,635 --> 00:01:26,465 that the true triad societies began to establish. 23 00:01:27,742 --> 00:01:29,157 They were born out of a struggle 24 00:01:29,158 --> 00:01:31,677 between two dynasties battling to control China, 25 00:01:33,058 --> 00:01:35,508 the ruling house the Ming found itself under attack 26 00:01:35,509 --> 00:01:38,236 and eventually overthrown by the rival Ching empire. 27 00:01:39,409 --> 00:01:40,927 Among those who came to the aid 28 00:01:40,928 --> 00:01:43,619 of the doomed Ming were the Shaolin monks. 29 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:45,000 The same order made famous 30 00:01:45,001 --> 00:01:47,107 by the television series "Kung Fu." 31 00:01:48,591 --> 00:01:50,937 The Shaolin's abilities in martial arts were so fearsome 32 00:01:50,938 --> 00:01:53,181 the Ching ordered them to be destroyed. 33 00:01:53,182 --> 00:01:56,184 The monastery was burned in the entire Shaolin community, 34 00:01:56,185 --> 00:01:57,807 so one story goes, was killed 35 00:01:59,084 --> 00:02:01,465 with the exception of a small group of monks. 36 00:02:01,466 --> 00:02:03,225 It was told they went underground, 37 00:02:03,226 --> 00:02:06,125 formed secret societies built around patriotism 38 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:07,850 as well as a severe code of loyalty 39 00:02:07,851 --> 00:02:10,059 to other members of the group. 40 00:02:10,060 --> 00:02:12,096 In this earliest form, they were groups of people 41 00:02:12,097 --> 00:02:14,719 who came together for mutual interest for business 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,136 or simply family or clan ties. 43 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,793 They were anything but criminal. 44 00:02:20,450 --> 00:02:22,141 This is what sets the triads apart 45 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:23,902 from other organized crime gangs. 46 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:27,594 For centuries, they were and remain of this day 47 00:02:27,595 --> 00:02:30,253 an integral part of Chinese history and heritage, 48 00:02:31,530 --> 00:02:33,669 often doing a lot of good in Chinese communities, 49 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:35,947 both in China itself and in other nations 50 00:02:35,948 --> 00:02:37,916 as the Chinese spread around the world. 51 00:02:39,228 --> 00:02:41,436 The descent into criminality started taking place 52 00:02:41,437 --> 00:02:44,267 over a number of centuries after they became outlaws. 53 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:47,752 The triads played an extremely active part 54 00:02:47,753 --> 00:02:49,479 in the politics of ancient China. 55 00:02:50,963 --> 00:02:53,482 From time to time, Chinese dynasties are either overthrown 56 00:02:53,483 --> 00:02:55,967 or created with triad help. 57 00:02:55,968 --> 00:02:58,211 The emperors would use them as guerilla fighters 58 00:02:58,212 --> 00:02:59,351 or a secret service. 59 00:03:00,732 --> 00:03:02,974 This intermingling of politics in society 60 00:03:02,975 --> 00:03:06,495 formed an important foundation in triad development. 61 00:03:06,496 --> 00:03:08,152 To understand it, we need to look at 62 00:03:08,153 --> 00:03:10,328 how triad societies actually work. 63 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:13,433 Retribution against their own members 64 00:03:13,434 --> 00:03:15,090 or others for minor infringements 65 00:03:15,091 --> 00:03:17,680 is often swift and brutal, but seldom fatal. 66 00:03:18,853 --> 00:03:21,027 It's been said a dead man is forgotten, 67 00:03:21,028 --> 00:03:23,857 but a crippled man is an example forever, 68 00:03:23,858 --> 00:03:26,413 especially when he undergoes a chopping. 69 00:03:33,903 --> 00:03:36,974 As disorganized and random as this attack seems, 70 00:03:36,975 --> 00:03:38,872 centuries of rituals are still adhered to 71 00:03:38,873 --> 00:03:41,807 and the power structure is steeped in tradition. 72 00:03:43,982 --> 00:03:46,466 The triad family tree can change from order to order. 73 00:03:46,467 --> 00:03:48,813 It essentially sees the dragon head 74 00:03:48,814 --> 00:03:50,747 or leader at the top of the society. 75 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,613 He may have made the optional posting of a deputy leader. 76 00:03:55,614 --> 00:03:57,477 Then come the other ranking officials 77 00:03:57,478 --> 00:03:58,996 such as the incense master 78 00:03:58,997 --> 00:04:01,481 who is in charge of the rites department. 79 00:04:01,482 --> 00:04:04,001 The red poles is a strong arm man of the society 80 00:04:04,002 --> 00:04:06,175 responsible for leading the fighting sections 81 00:04:06,176 --> 00:04:07,108 during warfare. 82 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:10,904 The grass slipper carries a title of messenger, 83 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:12,803 but his importance may be better expressed 84 00:04:12,804 --> 00:04:15,289 as liaison officer between societies. 85 00:04:16,532 --> 00:04:18,015 Ordinary members or soldiers 86 00:04:18,016 --> 00:04:20,328 make up the bulk of the members. 87 00:04:20,329 --> 00:04:22,261 Finally, the blue lanterns are members 88 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,539 who have not yet taken their oaths. 89 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:26,161 This title comes from the tradition 90 00:04:26,162 --> 00:04:29,440 of hanging a blue lantern when there is death in the family. 91 00:04:29,441 --> 00:04:32,720 But in this sense, they're reborn as triads. 92 00:04:34,204 --> 00:04:36,482 Each area of rank is assigned a number. 93 00:04:36,483 --> 00:04:39,588 The significance of many remains obscure. 94 00:04:39,589 --> 00:04:41,418 It's suspected they have close connections 95 00:04:41,419 --> 00:04:42,903 to Chinese numerology. 96 00:04:43,938 --> 00:04:45,905 Perhaps the most straightforward meaning 97 00:04:45,906 --> 00:04:49,736 is that of the ordinary member who takes number 4-9. 98 00:04:49,737 --> 00:04:51,704 When multiplied they equal 36, 99 00:04:51,705 --> 00:04:54,707 the number of oaths sworn to become a recruit. 100 00:04:54,708 --> 00:04:58,504 Although now simplified, these original 36 oaths form 101 00:04:58,505 --> 00:05:00,713 just a part of an initiation ceremony, 102 00:05:00,714 --> 00:05:02,231 which would take several days 103 00:05:02,232 --> 00:05:04,683 and required the offering of total loyalty. 104 00:05:09,205 --> 00:05:10,274 I shall not disclose 105 00:05:10,275 --> 00:05:12,103 the secrets of the family, not even 106 00:05:12,104 --> 00:05:14,761 to my parents, brothers or wife. 107 00:05:14,762 --> 00:05:17,557 I shall never disclose the secrets for money. 108 00:05:17,558 --> 00:05:19,905 I'll be killed by myriads of swords if I do so. 109 00:05:20,803 --> 00:05:22,182 I must never cause harm 110 00:05:22,183 --> 00:05:23,701 or bring trouble to my sword brothers 111 00:05:23,702 --> 00:05:25,531 or incense master. 112 00:05:27,085 --> 00:05:28,844 If I am arrested after committing an offense, 113 00:05:28,845 --> 00:05:30,570 I must accept my punishment 114 00:05:30,571 --> 00:05:33,573 and not to place the blame on my sword brothers, 115 00:05:33,574 --> 00:05:35,057 if I break this oath, I will be killed 116 00:05:35,058 --> 00:05:36,474 by five thunderbolts. 117 00:05:37,854 --> 00:05:39,786 One man who has made the study of triads 118 00:05:39,787 --> 00:05:42,652 almost a life's work, the British author Martin Booth. 119 00:05:43,757 --> 00:05:45,965 Concern for his safety is so great 120 00:05:45,966 --> 00:05:48,623 that we are only able to briefly glimpse the man himself 121 00:05:48,624 --> 00:05:50,660 and his location must remain secret. 122 00:05:52,110 --> 00:05:54,318 He says even before the triads move into global criminal 123 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:56,493 activity, they brutally enforce 124 00:05:56,494 --> 00:05:58,805 the loyalty of their membership. 125 00:05:58,806 --> 00:06:03,396 Triad oaths, if they're broken, 126 00:06:03,397 --> 00:06:08,125 are usually met by a severe physical form of retribution. 127 00:06:08,126 --> 00:06:12,405 Quite often the murder of the perpetrator of that 128 00:06:12,406 --> 00:06:13,959 or the breaker of that oath. 129 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:18,584 Traditionally this is caused by, 130 00:06:18,585 --> 00:06:20,206 they would call it a thousand cuts 131 00:06:20,207 --> 00:06:22,519 or a hundred cuts depending on which society you are in. 132 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,418 It basically means that you would be attacked 133 00:06:25,419 --> 00:06:29,388 with something resembling a meat cleaver if you like, 134 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,702 but very sharp and you would basically be hacked to death. 135 00:06:33,979 --> 00:06:35,739 The name triad itself is actually 136 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:37,810 an English term derived from interpretation 137 00:06:37,811 --> 00:06:39,295 of the earliest triad symbol 138 00:06:40,089 --> 00:06:41,470 that of the Hung League. 139 00:06:42,643 --> 00:06:44,817 This is a rubric of the three society names 140 00:06:44,818 --> 00:06:47,233 of Heaven, Earth, and man. 141 00:06:47,234 --> 00:06:48,510 Hence the three cornered 142 00:06:48,511 --> 00:06:50,789 or triangular symbol which gives us the name. 143 00:06:51,894 --> 00:06:53,860 A fascinating sideline to this history 144 00:06:53,861 --> 00:06:56,898 is a design found in many Western homes, 145 00:06:56,899 --> 00:06:59,176 the willow pattern that adorns so many pieces 146 00:06:59,177 --> 00:07:02,456 of fine China is thought to actually be triad based. 147 00:07:03,595 --> 00:07:05,320 The original story of two young lovers 148 00:07:05,321 --> 00:07:07,080 fleeing a cruel Mandarin father 149 00:07:07,081 --> 00:07:09,324 only to be eventually caught and killed 150 00:07:09,325 --> 00:07:11,153 is an invention to explain a design 151 00:07:11,154 --> 00:07:12,742 that has a much deeper meaning. 152 00:07:14,157 --> 00:07:17,159 This deeper and spiritual meaning is for the Hung brethren 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,542 from the original surviving Shaolin monks. 154 00:07:20,647 --> 00:07:22,371 Scholars believe the design was made 155 00:07:22,372 --> 00:07:24,996 to encourage each other in a time of persecution. 156 00:07:26,791 --> 00:07:28,964 The three figures on the bridge are not two lovers 157 00:07:28,965 --> 00:07:32,175 being chased by a Mandarin, but three Shaolin monks. 158 00:07:33,349 --> 00:07:35,212 The burning of the house and the false story 159 00:07:35,213 --> 00:07:37,802 actually represents the burning of their monastery. 160 00:07:39,597 --> 00:07:42,046 The doves the gods turn the dying lovers into 161 00:07:42,047 --> 00:07:44,083 represent the soul of the Hung hero 162 00:07:44,084 --> 00:07:45,741 making his journey to paradise. 163 00:07:47,708 --> 00:07:49,778 It was from this ancient and mystic past 164 00:07:49,779 --> 00:07:51,505 that the modern triads emerged. 165 00:07:52,713 --> 00:07:54,576 They traveled with the massive Chinese diaspora 166 00:07:54,577 --> 00:07:57,165 of the 1840s and 50s as gold 167 00:07:57,166 --> 00:08:00,755 lured huge numbers of Chinese to the United States. 168 00:08:00,756 --> 00:08:02,722 With the Coolies came the triads, 169 00:08:02,723 --> 00:08:05,242 and with big money to be made, triads began to emerge 170 00:08:05,243 --> 00:08:09,178 as something far more sinister than benevolent societies. 171 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:12,352 However, it needs to be understood 172 00:08:12,353 --> 00:08:14,734 that these triad societies are very much a part 173 00:08:14,735 --> 00:08:16,496 of everyday Chinese culture. 174 00:08:17,807 --> 00:08:20,326 If you look at Chinese communities in California 175 00:08:20,327 --> 00:08:23,536 or Australia in the last century, the triad societies, 176 00:08:23,537 --> 00:08:25,607 while criminal in Western eyes 177 00:08:25,608 --> 00:08:27,091 actually did a lot of good work 178 00:08:27,092 --> 00:08:28,714 for people in those communities 179 00:08:28,715 --> 00:08:31,614 who are often racially abused and socially shut out. 180 00:08:44,524 --> 00:08:46,870 Mark Craig is a former law enforcement officer 181 00:08:46,871 --> 00:08:49,804 with wide experience in the Asia Pacific region. 182 00:08:49,805 --> 00:08:52,323 He says traveling with this cloak of respectability 183 00:08:52,324 --> 00:08:54,878 allowed the triads to prosper. 184 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:56,431 They moved into criminal activity 185 00:08:56,432 --> 00:08:58,398 in a big way in revolutionary China 186 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,299 before, during, and after World War II. 187 00:09:02,749 --> 00:09:05,785 Triads have been abroad probably around about the time 188 00:09:05,786 --> 00:09:10,169 of the major Chinese diaspora, 189 00:09:10,170 --> 00:09:13,724 which is let's say around 1840, 1850. 190 00:09:13,725 --> 00:09:17,038 They traveled to South Africa, Canada, America, Australia, 191 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:18,660 around about the time of the gold rush. 192 00:09:18,661 --> 00:09:21,076 That's when we probably first saw triads 193 00:09:21,077 --> 00:09:22,802 internationally dispersed. 194 00:09:22,803 --> 00:09:25,805 Now, in terms of criminal activity of any significance, 195 00:09:25,806 --> 00:09:28,775 it probably wasn't until post Second World War. 196 00:09:29,845 --> 00:09:31,466 When China descended into the chaos, 197 00:09:31,467 --> 00:09:34,538 which came with Sino Japanese War, World War II 198 00:09:34,539 --> 00:09:37,748 and the Revolution, the triads were there. 199 00:09:37,749 --> 00:09:39,854 They often played both sides off the middle, 200 00:09:39,855 --> 00:09:42,651 always looking for power, influence and money. 201 00:09:44,066 --> 00:09:47,068 While some triads society sided with the communist forces 202 00:09:47,069 --> 00:09:50,417 of Mao Tse-Tung, others took the opposite position. 203 00:09:51,452 --> 00:09:53,592 Some worked directly for the Japanese 204 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:55,145 and still others worked as part 205 00:09:55,146 --> 00:09:58,148 of a complex intelligence network within occupied China 206 00:09:58,149 --> 00:09:59,633 during the Second World war. 207 00:10:02,084 --> 00:10:03,463 But as the war came to an end, 208 00:10:03,464 --> 00:10:05,881 the communist Chinese took control of the mainland. 209 00:10:06,882 --> 00:10:08,227 It was a hardcore triads who went 210 00:10:08,228 --> 00:10:10,194 with Chiang Kai-shek into Taiwan, 211 00:10:10,195 --> 00:10:12,231 a British colony of Hong Kong, 212 00:10:12,232 --> 00:10:13,922 both of which were to become the locus 213 00:10:13,923 --> 00:10:15,822 of triad activity worldwide. 214 00:10:17,168 --> 00:10:20,446 It was to be in the turbulent Asia post World War II, 215 00:10:20,447 --> 00:10:22,793 that the triads began to indulge in criminal activity 216 00:10:22,794 --> 00:10:24,554 of any real significance. 217 00:10:25,832 --> 00:10:28,557 Triad groups such as the United Bamboo Gang emerged 218 00:10:28,558 --> 00:10:30,871 in Taiwan in the early 1950s. 219 00:10:31,907 --> 00:10:33,390 They were mainly the sons 220 00:10:33,391 --> 00:10:35,738 of prominent national leaders like Chiang Kai-shek. 221 00:10:37,257 --> 00:10:40,500 The mid fifties also saw the emergence of the 14K triad, 222 00:10:40,501 --> 00:10:41,778 which to this day remains one 223 00:10:41,779 --> 00:10:43,470 of the most powerful in the world. 224 00:10:45,334 --> 00:10:47,681 The K in 14K stands for carat, 225 00:10:49,165 --> 00:10:51,340 the late 80s it had 30,000 members in Hong Kong alone. 226 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:54,687 From San Francisco to Sydney it is this name 227 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:56,345 that is synonymous with triad. 228 00:10:57,622 --> 00:11:00,451 The San Yee On was founded in 1921 229 00:11:00,452 --> 00:11:02,074 and is said to be the most conservative 230 00:11:02,075 --> 00:11:04,904 and traditional or the Hong Kong triads. 231 00:11:04,905 --> 00:11:09,046 Still using ceremonies like the 36 oaths we've already seen. 232 00:11:09,047 --> 00:11:11,808 San Yee On initiation can still also involve 233 00:11:11,809 --> 00:11:13,741 cutting the throat of a chicken, 234 00:11:13,742 --> 00:11:15,397 collecting the blood in a cup to be mixed 235 00:11:15,398 --> 00:11:18,711 with Chinese wine and blood from recruits. 236 00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:22,025 This is then called red flour wine, which initiates drink 237 00:11:22,026 --> 00:11:23,855 to bind them to the society forever. 238 00:11:25,305 --> 00:11:27,893 The 1950s and 60s was a time for consolidation 239 00:11:27,894 --> 00:11:29,342 of triad power in Asia 240 00:11:29,343 --> 00:11:31,311 and in some parts of the United States. 241 00:11:32,622 --> 00:11:34,658 They moved into almost every area of organized crime 242 00:11:34,659 --> 00:11:36,695 from prostitution to people smuggling, 243 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,938 extortion and drugs. 244 00:11:38,939 --> 00:11:40,250 But all the while they continued 245 00:11:40,251 --> 00:11:42,943 to back up their power in the political arena. 246 00:11:44,496 --> 00:11:47,809 One man who experienced his firsthand in a most brutal way 247 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:50,363 is former Hong Kong Police intelligence officer 248 00:11:50,364 --> 00:11:51,365 Colin Lamont. 249 00:11:52,608 --> 00:11:54,885 Under growing anti British gang pressure 250 00:11:54,886 --> 00:11:58,199 Lamont was almost killed when a triad-masterminded bomb 251 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,925 he was attempting to disarm 252 00:11:59,926 --> 00:12:02,375 went off with fatal consequences. 253 00:12:02,376 --> 00:12:03,618 They started putting a couple 254 00:12:03,619 --> 00:12:05,378 of hundred bombs out at night. 255 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:06,655 A percentage of them were real, 256 00:12:06,656 --> 00:12:08,381 a percentage of them were fake, 257 00:12:08,382 --> 00:12:10,107 but they slowed everything down just the same 258 00:12:10,108 --> 00:12:13,214 'cause you didn't know until you'd got them open, 259 00:12:13,215 --> 00:12:16,320 whether they were real or not, there were teams of police 260 00:12:16,321 --> 00:12:18,978 and as you could appreciate, very few experts. 261 00:12:18,979 --> 00:12:20,704 But these were homemade bombs anyway, 262 00:12:20,705 --> 00:12:24,501 so there was no manual to tell you 263 00:12:24,502 --> 00:12:26,814 to move the red button to the left. 264 00:12:26,815 --> 00:12:28,091 You had to really discover it 265 00:12:28,092 --> 00:12:29,644 as you were opening it, just how it worked. 266 00:12:29,645 --> 00:12:32,751 And try and second guess and be a jump ahead. 267 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:36,927 And the one that got me on September 3rd, 1967, 268 00:12:36,928 --> 00:12:39,723 was one armed with a timing device. 269 00:12:39,724 --> 00:12:43,382 So it wouldn't really have mattered if what had happened, 270 00:12:43,383 --> 00:12:47,248 I was standing or kneeling over the top of it one minute. 271 00:12:47,249 --> 00:12:49,250 Got a premonition if you like, that something was wrong. 272 00:12:49,251 --> 00:12:50,666 Took a step back and it blew. 273 00:12:57,707 --> 00:13:00,883 Three plugs of gelignite went up to five feet away. 274 00:13:03,334 --> 00:13:04,922 Oh yes, I was lucky to survive. 275 00:13:06,199 --> 00:13:11,065 There was a fire officer, 276 00:13:11,066 --> 00:13:13,757 three stories up and 75 feet up the road 277 00:13:13,758 --> 00:13:17,036 who stuck his head out to see how I was doing. 278 00:13:17,037 --> 00:13:19,763 And he was killed with a flying fragment. 279 00:13:19,764 --> 00:13:20,903 Others were injured 280 00:13:22,387 --> 00:13:24,699 and I was unconscious for a couple of days after 281 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:26,908 I'd run around the street giving orders in shock 282 00:13:26,909 --> 00:13:29,324 and then eventually hospitalized. 283 00:13:29,325 --> 00:13:31,637 We believe too that there was a certain amount of, 284 00:13:31,638 --> 00:13:34,191 there was a criminal element involved in that, obviously 285 00:13:34,192 --> 00:13:36,918 because disruption of the colony 286 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:38,438 served the interest of crime. 287 00:13:40,543 --> 00:13:42,579 For police with Hong Kong Street experience 288 00:13:42,580 --> 00:13:46,169 like Colin Lamont seeing triad victims maimed by choppings 289 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:49,275 but left alive was an all too common occurrence. 290 00:13:49,276 --> 00:13:53,348 The reality is that you didn't see 291 00:13:53,349 --> 00:13:57,697 the sort of overt machine gunning of people in the streets. 292 00:13:57,698 --> 00:14:01,563 that we, you know, all know about from Al Capone days 293 00:14:01,564 --> 00:14:03,565 and "Untouchables" movies. 294 00:14:03,566 --> 00:14:06,568 The idea of driving around with somebody on the sideboard 295 00:14:06,569 --> 00:14:09,951 with a machine gun blasting, you know, shop front 296 00:14:09,952 --> 00:14:12,816 isn't part of the Chinese culture. 297 00:14:12,817 --> 00:14:16,164 People hobbling around victims 298 00:14:16,165 --> 00:14:18,822 and still alive are a constant reminder in the village 299 00:14:18,823 --> 00:14:19,961 that that's what happens to you 300 00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:21,584 if you don't do what the triads say. 301 00:14:22,792 --> 00:14:25,449 And certainly the mafia idea of omerta 302 00:14:25,450 --> 00:14:27,867 of, you know, you just don't talk about it. 303 00:14:29,075 --> 00:14:31,386 That's an important part of it. 304 00:14:31,387 --> 00:14:36,150 No one will tell you the innermost secrets of the mafia, 305 00:14:36,151 --> 00:14:39,291 the triads or for that matter, I guess, the masons. 306 00:14:39,292 --> 00:14:41,983 The whole idea of secrecy is all part of it. 307 00:14:41,984 --> 00:14:45,676 And that's part of their defense I suppose 308 00:14:45,677 --> 00:14:48,403 is that they've got everybody scared witless 309 00:14:48,404 --> 00:14:50,716 so that they're not going to have to worry about 310 00:14:50,717 --> 00:14:54,031 anybody really talking to the authorities. 311 00:14:56,723 --> 00:14:59,207 Sergeant Dan Foley of the San Francisco Police 312 00:14:59,208 --> 00:15:02,348 gang task force has firsthand experience of the brutality 313 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:04,730 and changes in attitude to some of the old ways 314 00:15:04,731 --> 00:15:06,249 of triad conduct. 315 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:09,873 In the case of a loan shark victim 316 00:15:09,874 --> 00:15:13,359 or somebody that owes a triad a favor, 317 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,846 they would most likely main that person 318 00:15:18,158 --> 00:15:21,989 in order to collect the money eventually from them. 319 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:24,750 But on the other side, when there's enemies 320 00:15:24,751 --> 00:15:27,063 and they're trying to take control, 321 00:15:27,064 --> 00:15:29,168 they would prefer killing the individual 322 00:15:29,169 --> 00:15:31,515 because leaving that person alive 323 00:15:31,516 --> 00:15:33,690 will make that person more powerful. 324 00:15:33,691 --> 00:15:35,934 So enemies, they want to kill, 325 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:40,594 victims, they want to be examples to others. 326 00:15:41,871 --> 00:15:43,458 But with growing experience, 327 00:15:43,459 --> 00:15:46,530 the San Francisco Police gang task force were able to react 328 00:15:46,531 --> 00:15:50,431 to now familiar patterns of organized criminal behavior. 329 00:15:50,432 --> 00:15:52,881 As we look back in the history of San Francisco, 330 00:15:52,882 --> 00:15:57,610 there's been a lot of activity involving triad 331 00:15:57,611 --> 00:16:00,268 or secret society operations for many years. 332 00:16:00,269 --> 00:16:04,583 But as of recently, as early as 1989 333 00:16:04,584 --> 00:16:07,758 through about 1992, an individual 334 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,452 by the name of Peter Chong came from Hong Kong. 335 00:16:11,453 --> 00:16:14,387 He's a member of the Wo Hop To Triad. 336 00:16:15,526 --> 00:16:18,528 He was able to organize independent gangs 337 00:16:18,529 --> 00:16:22,428 within San Francisco to attack 338 00:16:22,429 --> 00:16:25,224 and take control of Chinatown from the gang 339 00:16:25,225 --> 00:16:28,745 that had controlled it for many years, which was Wa Ching. 340 00:16:28,746 --> 00:16:30,712 As a result of that, 341 00:16:30,713 --> 00:16:33,267 there were numerous murders on both sides. 342 00:16:33,268 --> 00:16:34,613 There were arson fires 343 00:16:34,614 --> 00:16:38,651 and some very serious crimes that occurred. 344 00:16:38,652 --> 00:16:41,482 Recruitment of young people to commit robberies 345 00:16:41,483 --> 00:16:45,624 to further the activities of the Wo Hop To 346 00:16:45,625 --> 00:16:48,489 in trying to build a base here. 347 00:16:48,490 --> 00:16:51,630 When Mr. Peter Chong came to San Francisco 348 00:16:51,631 --> 00:16:54,184 after traveling around the United States, 349 00:16:54,185 --> 00:16:56,635 we in the San Francisco Police Department gang task force, 350 00:16:56,636 --> 00:16:59,120 along with other federal agencies 351 00:16:59,121 --> 00:17:03,573 as well as state agencies recognized what was going on. 352 00:17:03,574 --> 00:17:07,956 We were able to deal with it fairly quickly. 353 00:17:07,957 --> 00:17:10,166 Within two to three years, 354 00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:12,927 the whole organization was brought down. 355 00:17:12,928 --> 00:17:17,000 Mr. Peter Chong had fled to Hong Kong, then Macau 356 00:17:17,001 --> 00:17:20,210 and is now being brought back 357 00:17:20,211 --> 00:17:23,800 to stand trial federally along with other people 358 00:17:23,801 --> 00:17:25,872 that were leading the organization. 359 00:17:27,322 --> 00:17:30,082 The big time though was just over the horizon. 360 00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:32,636 The triads burst onto the international drug scene, 361 00:17:32,637 --> 00:17:34,845 largely through the efforts of one man, 362 00:17:34,846 --> 00:17:38,401 the sinister and clever gang leader who realized it was time 363 00:17:38,402 --> 00:17:41,645 to take a far more business-like interest in the drug trade. 364 00:17:41,646 --> 00:17:44,510 The triads really came into big money. 365 00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:46,409 They really hit the big time 366 00:17:46,410 --> 00:17:49,930 when the international heroin trade started up 367 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,073 and they were immensely important 368 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:56,558 in the establishment of that. 369 00:17:57,835 --> 00:18:01,355 A Chinese, a Hong Kong Chinese called Ng Sik-ho 370 00:18:01,356 --> 00:18:04,565 was nicknamed Limpy Ho because he walked with a limp, 371 00:18:04,566 --> 00:18:05,911 was probably the most important. 372 00:18:05,912 --> 00:18:08,879 He and two others, two other men 373 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,262 were the most important in establishing heroin trade 374 00:18:12,263 --> 00:18:17,268 in the world and Ng Sik-ho was the most important one 375 00:18:18,304 --> 00:18:19,580 where Europe and certainly the East Coast 376 00:18:19,581 --> 00:18:21,271 of North America is concerned. 377 00:18:21,272 --> 00:18:25,689 He was the first triad to go at the heroine industry 378 00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:28,313 with a businessman's eye. 379 00:18:28,314 --> 00:18:31,868 His organization was exceedingly good. 380 00:18:31,869 --> 00:18:35,182 His network of couriers, if you like, was exceedingly good. 381 00:18:35,183 --> 00:18:37,908 He struck up an alliance in Amsterdam 382 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:40,498 with the Chinese triad group there. 383 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:46,400 And he and they together more or less set up 384 00:18:46,401 --> 00:18:48,540 the heroin trade as we know today. 385 00:18:48,541 --> 00:18:49,920 Limpy Ho was eventually 386 00:18:49,921 --> 00:18:52,682 to be successfully charged along with his wife, 387 00:18:52,683 --> 00:18:55,202 a major breakthrough for Hong Kong police. 388 00:18:55,203 --> 00:18:58,206 This time what he had set in place was bringing in billions. 389 00:19:12,634 --> 00:19:15,429 It's been said if it's heroin, it's got to be Asian. 390 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:18,259 Thoroughly organized Hong Kong triads 391 00:19:18,260 --> 00:19:21,020 and to a lesser extent, Vietnamese and Taiwanese gangs 392 00:19:21,021 --> 00:19:22,988 control the heroin trade 393 00:19:22,989 --> 00:19:25,853 because a majority of heroin source plant opium 394 00:19:25,854 --> 00:19:27,372 is grown in the golden triangle 395 00:19:27,373 --> 00:19:29,651 of Laos, Burma, and Thailand. 396 00:19:31,273 --> 00:19:33,481 This is where this load came from. 397 00:19:33,482 --> 00:19:35,311 420 kilograms of heroin, 398 00:19:35,312 --> 00:19:37,831 one of the biggest hauls in Hong Kong history. 399 00:19:38,832 --> 00:19:40,350 It was bound for the United States, 400 00:19:40,351 --> 00:19:41,939 Canada, Australia and Europe. 401 00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:45,010 To snare this catch the Hong Kong police 402 00:19:45,011 --> 00:19:47,979 spent six months investigating a local drug consortium. 403 00:19:49,118 --> 00:19:50,912 It was found hidden in 30 travel bags 404 00:19:50,913 --> 00:19:52,536 in this house on mainland China. 405 00:19:53,951 --> 00:19:56,402 Also seized were automatic weapons and police scanners. 406 00:19:57,575 --> 00:19:59,577 Hong Kong was founded on the drug trade. 407 00:20:00,578 --> 00:20:02,061 In the past it was opium for China, 408 00:20:02,062 --> 00:20:03,857 today it's heroin for the world. 409 00:20:05,134 --> 00:20:07,791 It's all controlled by a strict corporate strategy, 410 00:20:07,792 --> 00:20:10,346 a business plan that takes a profit at every level down 411 00:20:10,347 --> 00:20:13,212 from the major importer to the street level dealer. 412 00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:15,835 And this profit is amazing. 413 00:20:17,077 --> 00:20:19,389 A farmer in Burma may be paid $25 US dollars 414 00:20:19,390 --> 00:20:20,736 for a kilogram of opium. 415 00:20:21,944 --> 00:20:23,773 By the time the product hits American streets, 416 00:20:23,774 --> 00:20:26,983 it's worth over 1500 times that amount. 417 00:20:26,984 --> 00:20:29,745 Almost no other product enjoys this ratio to market. 418 00:20:30,884 --> 00:20:32,437 This is why the drug trade is believed 419 00:20:32,438 --> 00:20:35,336 to be the third most lucrative business on the planet. 420 00:20:35,337 --> 00:20:37,545 Right behind the international money trade 421 00:20:37,546 --> 00:20:38,651 and the oil business. 422 00:20:39,548 --> 00:20:42,032 Triads are good businessmen. 423 00:20:42,033 --> 00:20:43,689 They understand that to be successful, 424 00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:47,245 you first monopolize the product and its distribution, 425 00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:49,488 then you brand it with a marketable image, 426 00:20:49,489 --> 00:20:51,697 at the growing heroine chic, 427 00:20:51,698 --> 00:20:55,391 making the drug appear mainstream and recreational. 428 00:20:55,392 --> 00:20:59,222 Then you expand market share, which is exactly 429 00:20:59,223 --> 00:21:01,811 what they did here in Oakland, California. 430 00:21:01,812 --> 00:21:04,952 But in a spot check on a container ship from the Far East, 431 00:21:04,953 --> 00:21:08,852 a drug dog uncovered 480 kilos of pure heroin 432 00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:11,407 disguised as birthday presents. 433 00:21:11,408 --> 00:21:12,925 Happy birthday, heroin. 434 00:21:12,926 --> 00:21:15,652 All but a small amount of the drug was removed, 435 00:21:15,653 --> 00:21:17,999 then began an elaborate surveillance operation 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,864 with 100 undercover officers. 437 00:21:21,072 --> 00:21:23,419 A US customs helicopter shadowed a truck 438 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:25,041 which picked up the shipment and headed 439 00:21:25,042 --> 00:21:27,768 for a warehouse near San Francisco. 440 00:21:27,769 --> 00:21:29,010 We're as low as we're gonna go. 441 00:21:29,011 --> 00:21:31,496 If we stay down here and stay orbiting, 442 00:21:31,497 --> 00:21:33,912 they're gonna go ahead and spot us in a few minutes. 443 00:21:33,913 --> 00:21:36,742 When a suspect spotted a remote control hidden camera, 444 00:21:36,743 --> 00:21:38,262 the police moved in. 445 00:21:39,401 --> 00:21:41,369 Three men are now serving long sentences. 446 00:21:43,681 --> 00:21:46,096 It's a sad indictment that globally 447 00:21:46,097 --> 00:21:49,377 human beings spend more money on drugs than on food. 448 00:21:50,654 --> 00:21:53,242 For the triads it's been a formula for success. 449 00:21:54,692 --> 00:21:56,314 The enormous cash flood 450 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,902 provided by the international drug trade financed the triads 451 00:21:58,903 --> 00:22:01,767 even deeper into other criminal activities. 452 00:22:01,768 --> 00:22:04,563 By now, they were well entrenched outside of China, 453 00:22:04,564 --> 00:22:09,016 throughout Asia and on the West Coast of the United States. 454 00:22:09,017 --> 00:22:11,156 The main locus of triad activity in the world 455 00:22:11,157 --> 00:22:12,985 when we talk specifically about triads 456 00:22:12,986 --> 00:22:14,401 and not Chinese organized crime, 457 00:22:14,402 --> 00:22:17,058 'cause there's a distinction, is Hong Kong. 458 00:22:17,059 --> 00:22:18,613 Hong Kong and Taiwan. 459 00:22:19,890 --> 00:22:23,375 Activities are based on geographical disbursement. 460 00:22:23,376 --> 00:22:26,378 So there's always going to be fighting for turf, 461 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:30,071 for example, this is a typical triad 462 00:22:30,072 --> 00:22:31,590 fighting implement right here. 463 00:22:31,591 --> 00:22:34,766 This is a sort of a, well, it's a food chopper, 464 00:22:34,767 --> 00:22:38,080 and the triads actually fight with these 465 00:22:39,496 --> 00:22:42,429 and they undertake what's called a chopping 466 00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:43,809 where they attack people 467 00:22:43,810 --> 00:22:44,707 and they hack them with these things. 468 00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,053 These are razor sharp. 469 00:22:46,054 --> 00:22:47,848 In places like Hong Kong, 470 00:22:47,849 --> 00:22:50,471 it's very difficult to get hold of a firearm. 471 00:22:50,472 --> 00:22:53,232 So violence with a firearm is not so frequent. 472 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:55,165 So that's why we see resorting 473 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:57,271 to this kind of traditional weapons. 474 00:22:57,272 --> 00:22:58,928 Internationally, it's a little bit different. 475 00:22:58,929 --> 00:23:02,966 Gang wars have spilled over very significantly, 476 00:23:02,967 --> 00:23:04,485 into the United States. 477 00:23:04,486 --> 00:23:05,969 We only have to look for example, 478 00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:10,215 at the Labor Day massacre of 1977 in San Francisco. 479 00:23:10,216 --> 00:23:13,114 That became known as the Golden Dragon massacre. 480 00:23:13,115 --> 00:23:14,392 That was particularly nasty. 481 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,463 What happened there is that a new group 482 00:23:16,464 --> 00:23:19,155 of Hong Kong immigrants had legally 483 00:23:19,156 --> 00:23:20,571 come into the United States. 484 00:23:21,952 --> 00:23:24,229 Some members had formed a gang called the Joe Boys. 485 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:26,370 They did not respect the established 486 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:30,028 order within the Chinatown community. 487 00:23:30,029 --> 00:23:32,030 They did not listen to the established elders 488 00:23:32,031 --> 00:23:33,307 and what the Tong said, 489 00:23:33,308 --> 00:23:35,309 they were going to start their own gang. 490 00:23:35,310 --> 00:23:37,968 Now of course, there's only so much turf to go round. 491 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:40,935 They burst into the restaurant, 492 00:23:40,936 --> 00:23:45,769 had automatic weapons and handguns, let go... 493 00:23:51,499 --> 00:23:53,845 didn't hit one gang member, 494 00:23:53,846 --> 00:23:55,502 but killed five innocent people, 495 00:23:55,503 --> 00:23:57,400 four of whom were Japanese law students 496 00:23:57,401 --> 00:23:59,126 celebrating a graduation. 497 00:23:59,127 --> 00:24:00,334 The other was a waiter who happened 498 00:24:00,335 --> 00:24:01,577 to be coming down the stairs 499 00:24:01,578 --> 00:24:04,994 and as he came down, they stabbed him. 500 00:24:04,995 --> 00:24:06,996 I think they stabbed him in the throat. 501 00:24:06,997 --> 00:24:09,377 As a result of that particular altercation, 502 00:24:09,378 --> 00:24:11,138 the San Francisco police established 503 00:24:11,139 --> 00:24:14,831 what is still in existence today, the gang task force. 504 00:24:14,832 --> 00:24:16,523 And they were instrumental in actually 505 00:24:16,524 --> 00:24:18,490 cleaning up Chinatown. 506 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:20,319 So how does a petty triad gang leader 507 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,425 make his way up in the world? 508 00:24:22,426 --> 00:24:25,118 His choices are varied with a common theme of crime. 509 00:24:26,499 --> 00:24:28,535 He may choose to move into thuggery 510 00:24:28,536 --> 00:24:31,469 or he can collect gambling debts, provide transport couriers 511 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:34,368 for drugs or even supply security. 512 00:24:34,369 --> 00:24:35,956 Or he may want to start his ascent 513 00:24:35,957 --> 00:24:38,924 in petty extortion running young girls as prostitutes, 514 00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:41,514 recreational gaming and street traders. 515 00:24:43,033 --> 00:24:44,896 Or if tough and smart enough, 516 00:24:44,897 --> 00:24:47,588 gang rivalry may be his choice. 517 00:24:47,589 --> 00:24:50,315 He'll settle inter gang disputes over territory 518 00:24:50,316 --> 00:24:52,938 and organize muscle for fights. 519 00:24:52,939 --> 00:24:54,388 A favorite and simple technique 520 00:24:54,389 --> 00:24:56,114 of recovering bad gambling debts 521 00:24:56,115 --> 00:24:59,325 used by the triads is called ATM extortion. 522 00:25:00,568 --> 00:25:01,913 A method where even an empty account 523 00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:03,571 can produce cash on demand. 524 00:25:07,747 --> 00:25:08,851 Hi, Kim. 525 00:25:08,852 --> 00:25:12,337 Hello. Look, two more weeks. 526 00:25:12,338 --> 00:25:13,442 I have your money. 527 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:16,099 Wrong answer, Kim. 528 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,342 I swear, I have the money. 529 00:25:17,343 --> 00:25:18,827 Wrong answer, Kim. 530 00:25:19,725 --> 00:25:21,968 Let's go to bank and make a draw. 531 00:25:23,798 --> 00:25:27,041 My, my account is empty. I have nothing. 532 00:25:27,042 --> 00:25:30,355 Ah, you in a very bad jam, Kim. 533 00:25:44,853 --> 00:25:47,337 Now get our money please. 534 00:25:47,338 --> 00:25:50,271 I, I told you it's all gone. 535 00:25:51,895 --> 00:25:54,898 But two weeks and I know I have enough. 536 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:57,796 Ring your mother, your father, 537 00:25:57,797 --> 00:25:59,487 your uncles, your grandfather. 538 00:25:59,488 --> 00:26:02,871 Don't care. Tell them to transfer the money in your account. 539 00:26:05,425 --> 00:26:06,529 I, I don't think- 540 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:07,980 Does your mother love you? 541 00:26:08,843 --> 00:26:09,706 What? 542 00:26:11,362 --> 00:26:12,812 Or she like to see her baby 543 00:26:13,744 --> 00:26:15,952 sent back to her piece at a time? 544 00:26:15,953 --> 00:26:18,127 What do you think? Huh? 545 00:26:18,128 --> 00:26:21,095 Hand first, foot maybe, nose. 546 00:26:21,096 --> 00:26:22,719 All right. All right. 547 00:26:31,072 --> 00:26:35,421 Father, I'm in serious trouble. 548 00:26:36,871 --> 00:26:38,700 So, your mother does love you. 549 00:26:39,805 --> 00:26:41,427 - That's my uncle. - Whatever. 550 00:26:43,049 --> 00:26:44,050 See you next month. 551 00:26:45,293 --> 00:26:48,814 Oh, this your receipt, account balance zero. 552 00:27:07,211 --> 00:27:10,420 The legend of triad brutality continues to grow. 553 00:27:10,421 --> 00:27:11,836 They are now well known 554 00:27:11,837 --> 00:27:14,562 and feared well outside of the Chinese community. 555 00:27:14,563 --> 00:27:19,603 They originally came from Canton or Guangzhou 556 00:27:22,054 --> 00:27:23,848 and they were red guards 557 00:27:23,849 --> 00:27:26,989 or former red guards now that were incarcerated in various, 558 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:30,441 so-called gulags or concentration camps around Canton. 559 00:27:31,546 --> 00:27:33,167 Some were freed, others escaped 560 00:27:33,168 --> 00:27:35,170 and made their way to Hong Kong. 561 00:27:36,965 --> 00:27:40,036 There they had a commonality between each other 562 00:27:40,037 --> 00:27:42,867 and soon became referred to as the boys 563 00:27:42,868 --> 00:27:45,973 from the big circle, i.e. the circle 564 00:27:45,974 --> 00:27:48,873 of concentration camps around Canton. 565 00:27:48,874 --> 00:27:51,082 This was a term that they didn't give themselves, 566 00:27:51,083 --> 00:27:53,360 but other people, like the law enforcement people 567 00:27:53,361 --> 00:27:54,637 gave to them. 568 00:27:54,638 --> 00:27:56,397 Very quickly they organized themselves 569 00:27:56,398 --> 00:27:58,917 and they specialized in the armed robbery 570 00:27:58,918 --> 00:28:01,540 of jewelry stores in broad daylight. 571 00:28:01,541 --> 00:28:03,301 They would use automatic weapons, 572 00:28:03,302 --> 00:28:06,131 AK47s and hand grenades. 573 00:28:06,132 --> 00:28:08,513 They didn't care who got in the way. 574 00:28:08,514 --> 00:28:10,688 Very quickly the triads realized they had a problem 575 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,449 on their hand because the whole crime thing 576 00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:14,899 is territorial in Hong Kong. 577 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:16,659 It's all divided and you just can't go 578 00:28:16,660 --> 00:28:20,077 into somebody else's area and commit these kind of crimes. 579 00:28:21,251 --> 00:28:22,838 But the Dai Huen Jai didn't care 580 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:24,218 and they actually took them on 581 00:28:24,219 --> 00:28:27,257 and had the triads kind of beating a fast retreat. 582 00:28:28,361 --> 00:28:29,637 Anyway, from there in the seventies, 583 00:28:29,638 --> 00:28:32,503 the Dai Huen Jai evolved 584 00:28:33,677 --> 00:28:35,402 into a very, very powerful crime group, 585 00:28:35,403 --> 00:28:39,578 established a good core source of funds 586 00:28:39,579 --> 00:28:43,722 and migrated to the United States, Canada, and Europe. 587 00:28:44,861 --> 00:28:47,069 In Canada today they are deemed 588 00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:49,140 the number one threat to law enforcement. 589 00:28:49,141 --> 00:28:50,762 They maintain an organization 590 00:28:50,763 --> 00:28:54,007 of 1000 strong across the country. 591 00:28:54,008 --> 00:28:57,079 Now, where they differ from other organized crime groups 592 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,047 is they operate in cells of about 10. 593 00:29:00,048 --> 00:29:04,120 And they base their whole structure on something not unlike 594 00:29:04,121 --> 00:29:06,951 a terrorist organization such as the IRA. 595 00:29:06,952 --> 00:29:09,332 In other words, it's wholly compartmentalized. 596 00:29:09,333 --> 00:29:11,127 So if somebody is caught 597 00:29:11,128 --> 00:29:13,233 or does in fact become an informer, 598 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:14,786 there's not much they can give up. 599 00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:16,477 The illegal immigrants coming from places 600 00:29:16,478 --> 00:29:20,896 like Fujian and Jiujiang province moving into Europe 601 00:29:20,897 --> 00:29:23,450 very quickly became inducted 602 00:29:23,451 --> 00:29:26,833 into these established Dai Huen Jai groups. 603 00:29:26,834 --> 00:29:31,009 So what law enforcement now took talk of as second and third 604 00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:33,910 generation or second and third waves of Dai Huen Jai. 605 00:29:35,256 --> 00:29:37,533 Anyone who betrayed a triad or took them on 606 00:29:37,534 --> 00:29:39,259 met an organized retaliation 607 00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:41,192 dealt swiftly and brutally. 608 00:29:41,193 --> 00:29:44,643 Oh, they're organized and they are loyal to each other. 609 00:29:44,644 --> 00:29:48,130 They have the same sense of cohesion 610 00:29:48,131 --> 00:29:49,959 that the mafia has in Italy 611 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,756 and the IRA used to have in Ireland, the rest of it. 612 00:29:53,757 --> 00:29:55,482 And if they have to do a piece of work, 613 00:29:55,483 --> 00:29:56,794 that is, if they have to kill somebody 614 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,174 in order to protect the group, 615 00:29:58,175 --> 00:30:00,590 they will do so without hesitation. 616 00:30:00,591 --> 00:30:03,041 The ruthless efficiency of the triad organization 617 00:30:03,042 --> 00:30:04,871 has continued to place it at the forefront 618 00:30:04,872 --> 00:30:06,494 of global organized crime. 619 00:30:07,495 --> 00:30:08,771 In the eighties and nineties, 620 00:30:08,772 --> 00:30:11,532 new opportunities presented themselves. 621 00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:12,982 The staple business, for example, 622 00:30:12,983 --> 00:30:14,570 let's look at Sun Yee On Triad. 623 00:30:14,571 --> 00:30:17,263 In Hong Kong, they controlled the entertainment industry, 624 00:30:18,713 --> 00:30:21,749 from making movies right down to the local Karachi bar. 625 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:23,959 Of course prostitution, all the vice industries 626 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,133 are the staple of all the triads 627 00:30:26,134 --> 00:30:28,791 and all the Chinese crime groups that operate 628 00:30:28,792 --> 00:30:31,311 at that sort of basic crime level. 629 00:30:31,312 --> 00:30:34,245 When we get up into the more sophisticated operations, 630 00:30:34,246 --> 00:30:37,213 We're certainly talking about narcotics importations, 631 00:30:37,214 --> 00:30:40,285 arms trafficking and the big one for the last 632 00:30:40,286 --> 00:30:42,287 sort of 15 years is people smuggling. 633 00:30:42,288 --> 00:30:44,463 That's a multi-billion dollar industry. 634 00:30:52,229 --> 00:30:53,851 Australian police commissioner Peter Ryan 635 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,957 was trained by Scotland Yard and the FBI. 636 00:30:57,441 --> 00:30:59,270 Running one of the largest police forces 637 00:30:59,271 --> 00:31:00,581 in the Southern Hemisphere, 638 00:31:00,582 --> 00:31:02,618 Commissioner Ryan says he has no illusions 639 00:31:02,619 --> 00:31:05,070 about triad involvement in the people trade. 640 00:31:06,174 --> 00:31:08,693 We are so close to other countries 641 00:31:08,694 --> 00:31:11,661 which have enormous population, billions of people 642 00:31:11,662 --> 00:31:13,801 or hundreds of millions of people 643 00:31:13,802 --> 00:31:15,769 who are living in impoverished state 644 00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:18,841 or they are under a pretty strict regime 645 00:31:18,842 --> 00:31:20,256 and they want to escape. 646 00:31:20,257 --> 00:31:21,982 Therefore, anyone who wants to escape 647 00:31:21,983 --> 00:31:24,295 can find anybody to transport them. 648 00:31:24,296 --> 00:31:27,608 And certainly we've experienced here in Australia 649 00:31:27,609 --> 00:31:31,578 a large increase in the number of ships 650 00:31:31,579 --> 00:31:33,683 and people coming in by legitimate means 651 00:31:33,684 --> 00:31:36,928 through the airports of people who are illegals in one form 652 00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:39,656 or another, and who want to make Australia their home. 653 00:31:41,106 --> 00:31:43,521 In Australia arriving illegal immigrants 654 00:31:43,522 --> 00:31:45,420 from Asia have become a familiar sight. 655 00:31:46,318 --> 00:31:47,697 These boat people are often 656 00:31:47,698 --> 00:31:49,562 exhausted and desperate families. 657 00:31:51,081 --> 00:31:52,944 But recently authorities couldn't believe it when a boatload 658 00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:55,326 of the healthiest refugees they'd ever seen 659 00:31:55,327 --> 00:31:57,155 arrived in a rusting hulk fitted out 660 00:31:57,156 --> 00:31:59,710 with highly sophisticated navigation equipment. 661 00:32:01,126 --> 00:32:04,162 It turned out that these 139 refugees could have posed 662 00:32:04,163 --> 00:32:06,717 a very real threat to national security. 663 00:32:08,271 --> 00:32:11,376 In some cases it's been discovered recently 664 00:32:11,377 --> 00:32:14,034 that some of the people who've been traveling here on ships 665 00:32:14,035 --> 00:32:16,347 have been brought by one particular 666 00:32:16,348 --> 00:32:19,143 organized crime syndicate to do two things. 667 00:32:19,144 --> 00:32:20,868 First of all, they do it for money, 668 00:32:20,869 --> 00:32:22,629 but secondly, to boost the numbers 669 00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:26,046 of the triad members here in the country 670 00:32:26,047 --> 00:32:28,704 so that they could outnumber 671 00:32:28,705 --> 00:32:31,258 the next biggest triad organization. 672 00:32:31,259 --> 00:32:33,329 So it is becoming a problem for us, 673 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:34,813 but it's one where we are having 674 00:32:34,814 --> 00:32:37,230 quite a large degree of success as well. 675 00:32:37,231 --> 00:32:39,680 For example, the crime groups operating 676 00:32:39,681 --> 00:32:43,063 out of southern China in connection with triads in Taiwan 677 00:32:43,064 --> 00:32:46,342 and Hong Kong have smuggled throughout the 1980s 678 00:32:46,343 --> 00:32:49,794 100,000 people per annum to the United States alone, 679 00:32:49,795 --> 00:32:53,039 at an average charge of 35 to $50,000. 680 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,455 As you can understand, it's big money. 681 00:33:07,261 --> 00:33:08,882 Mark Craig's experience with triads 682 00:33:08,883 --> 00:33:12,886 had left him in no doubt as of their capacity for brutality. 683 00:33:12,887 --> 00:33:15,440 He tells a chilling story of how close death can be 684 00:33:15,441 --> 00:33:17,373 in dealing with gang members, 685 00:33:17,374 --> 00:33:20,377 particularly for courageous officers who work undercover. 686 00:33:21,861 --> 00:33:24,278 I have a friend with the New York City Police Department, 687 00:33:25,555 --> 00:33:28,695 a Chinese American, and he spent a couple of years 688 00:33:28,696 --> 00:33:31,767 undercover in a particular Chinese organization 689 00:33:31,768 --> 00:33:33,251 in Manhattan. 690 00:33:33,252 --> 00:33:36,186 Anyway, one day he was bringing in two out of town 691 00:33:37,601 --> 00:33:40,879 criminals from a different organization into New York. 692 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,399 They were in the out of town car, 693 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,195 so it had out of town number plates obviously. 694 00:33:46,196 --> 00:33:48,509 Anyway, a traffic cop stopped the car 695 00:33:49,406 --> 00:33:52,375 and spoke to the driver 696 00:33:53,962 --> 00:33:56,999 and made some disparaging comment in terms of his ethnicity. 697 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,276 Evening, gentlemen, 698 00:33:58,277 --> 00:34:00,589 you realize you're doing 65 in a 55 zone? 699 00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:02,178 License and registration please. 700 00:34:04,145 --> 00:34:07,147 You gentleman off to a Chinese tea party are you? 701 00:34:07,148 --> 00:34:09,391 Went back to his vehicle to, 702 00:34:09,392 --> 00:34:11,083 I guess to get his citation book. 703 00:34:12,291 --> 00:34:13,464 The out of town triad gangster 704 00:34:13,465 --> 00:34:14,982 became extremely agitated 705 00:34:14,983 --> 00:34:17,916 by the police officer's negative comments. 706 00:34:17,917 --> 00:34:18,848 He drew a pistol 707 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,919 and wanted to kill the officer. 708 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,783 The undercover policeman thought quickly 709 00:34:22,784 --> 00:34:24,509 and removed the threat. 710 00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:27,443 Mark Craig recalls the officer's words. 711 00:34:27,444 --> 00:34:30,067 "If anybody's gonna shoot this cop, it's me. 712 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:34,451 You're in my town. You are insulting me. 713 00:34:35,866 --> 00:34:38,765 Well, I'm gonna lose face here. I'm gonna shoot this cop. 714 00:34:38,766 --> 00:34:40,249 Okay? 715 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:42,148 But I'll do it when I'm ready. And now's not the time." 716 00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:44,633 Hey gentlemen, try to take it easy tonight. 717 00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:47,118 Thank you very much. 718 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,709 And so the whole thing was cooled down and went on. 719 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,953 So just how do law enforcement agencies here and worldwide 720 00:34:54,954 --> 00:34:56,023 deal with such a strong 721 00:34:56,024 --> 00:34:57,854 and ferocious network of evil? 722 00:34:58,751 --> 00:35:00,373 Almost impossible to penetrate, 723 00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:02,513 the individual triad gangs are also moving 724 00:35:02,514 --> 00:35:04,687 more and more into legitimate business, 725 00:35:04,688 --> 00:35:06,206 owning their own banks 726 00:35:06,207 --> 00:35:08,589 and often having budgets bigger than some entire nations. 727 00:35:09,555 --> 00:35:11,142 Here we see a police operation 728 00:35:11,143 --> 00:35:13,765 about to hit the streets of Hong Kong. 729 00:35:13,766 --> 00:35:17,148 Customs officials are moving out to raid the territory. 730 00:35:17,149 --> 00:35:20,601 Tonight's target are the young hawkers of pirated music CDs. 731 00:35:21,878 --> 00:35:24,397 There are many arrests of hawkers as young as 12. 732 00:35:24,398 --> 00:35:27,263 They're often used as expendable workers by the triads. 733 00:35:29,403 --> 00:35:31,956 Any tourist who's been to Hong Kong knows that when it comes 734 00:35:31,957 --> 00:35:34,477 to counterfeiting, the Chinese are hard to beat. 735 00:35:35,685 --> 00:35:38,721 Music CDs and computer software expertly copied 736 00:35:38,722 --> 00:35:40,792 and often undetectable from the original 737 00:35:40,793 --> 00:35:43,727 except for their low price turn over multi-millions. 738 00:35:44,866 --> 00:35:46,281 The average careful tourist can avoid 739 00:35:46,282 --> 00:35:48,662 becoming a part of the pirating problem. 740 00:35:48,663 --> 00:35:51,044 But a more sinister trade in recent years, 741 00:35:51,045 --> 00:35:53,772 catching many, is the cloning of credit cards. 742 00:35:55,049 --> 00:35:57,602 They are surprisingly easy to forge. 743 00:35:57,603 --> 00:35:59,915 Magazines brazenly advertise the equipment 744 00:35:59,916 --> 00:36:01,262 needed to create the cards. 745 00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:04,609 All you then need is a current credit card number 746 00:36:04,610 --> 00:36:07,612 obtained from someone's card without their knowledge. 747 00:36:07,613 --> 00:36:10,409 A nasty surprise is when they get the bill. 748 00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:14,343 China is attempting to crack down on this billion dollar 749 00:36:14,344 --> 00:36:17,243 cloning industry that also includes a perennial favorites 750 00:36:17,244 --> 00:36:19,486 of Rolex watches and Gucci bags. 751 00:36:19,487 --> 00:36:20,730 But it's a tough battle. 752 00:36:22,766 --> 00:36:25,734 This raid netted the triad operating the hawkers. 753 00:36:25,735 --> 00:36:27,977 He was arrested and he's not worried 754 00:36:27,978 --> 00:36:30,359 as long as there's big money to be made. 755 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,878 A fine of a few hundred dollars 756 00:36:31,879 --> 00:36:33,155 will only have these criminals 757 00:36:33,156 --> 00:36:35,158 laughing authorities in the face. 758 00:36:36,332 --> 00:36:37,815 But the smiles of contempt can also turn 759 00:36:37,816 --> 00:36:40,714 to exclusive expressions of outrage. 760 00:36:40,715 --> 00:36:43,683 Hong Kong recently saw arson attacks on six government 761 00:36:43,684 --> 00:36:46,549 vehicles in revenge for the jailing of a triad leader. 762 00:36:47,481 --> 00:36:48,826 Hong Kong has the toughest 763 00:36:48,827 --> 00:36:51,760 and most comprehensive laws against triads. 764 00:36:51,761 --> 00:36:54,901 The specifically tailored Societies Ordinance Law 765 00:36:54,902 --> 00:36:57,628 and the Organized and Serious Crimes Ordinance 766 00:36:57,629 --> 00:36:59,975 enhances a police's ability to investigate 767 00:36:59,976 --> 00:37:02,426 triad related offenses. 768 00:37:02,427 --> 00:37:05,360 Triad membership or merely claiming to be an office bearer 769 00:37:05,361 --> 00:37:08,225 for the triads, makes the offender liable for a fine 770 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:11,850 of 1 million Hong Kong dollars and 15 years in prison. 771 00:37:12,851 --> 00:37:14,955 Like crime investigators worldwide 772 00:37:14,956 --> 00:37:17,268 Commissioner Ryan says that organized crime gangs 773 00:37:17,269 --> 00:37:18,511 like triads have evolved 774 00:37:18,512 --> 00:37:20,790 into incredibly complex organizations. 775 00:37:21,963 --> 00:37:23,654 They have tentacles into legitimate business 776 00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:25,207 and share methods of operation 777 00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:27,245 with other international crime gangs. 778 00:37:28,073 --> 00:37:29,591 Organized crime generally, 779 00:37:29,592 --> 00:37:31,834 and it's very difficult to pin down 780 00:37:31,835 --> 00:37:34,492 in terms of who is masterminding what. 781 00:37:34,493 --> 00:37:37,702 Most of them have branched out into other activities 782 00:37:37,703 --> 00:37:41,982 which provide a legal or semi-legal framework. 783 00:37:41,983 --> 00:37:44,053 As we all know, a lot of Russian 784 00:37:44,054 --> 00:37:46,504 organized crime gangs actually own banks. 785 00:37:46,505 --> 00:37:50,094 They own investment and money laundering organizations 786 00:37:50,095 --> 00:37:52,372 which appear to be legitimate on the surface, 787 00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:55,410 but in fact are just a conduit for drug money 788 00:37:55,411 --> 00:37:57,309 or drug running or whatever. 789 00:37:58,828 --> 00:38:00,449 There are signs that major inroads 790 00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,590 have been made against the triads in many areas, 791 00:38:03,591 --> 00:38:06,628 but law enforcement officers once found it almost impossible 792 00:38:06,629 --> 00:38:08,320 to penetrate the triad societies. 793 00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:11,426 One major reason for this was their ability 794 00:38:11,427 --> 00:38:14,395 to melt into a community and to terrorize people. 795 00:38:15,672 --> 00:38:17,777 While strutting the international crime stage 796 00:38:17,778 --> 00:38:19,848 triads continue to stand over members 797 00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:21,229 of their own communities. 798 00:38:22,265 --> 00:38:23,541 The kidnappings for ransom 799 00:38:23,542 --> 00:38:25,785 and murder that take place around the world, 800 00:38:25,786 --> 00:38:29,548 predominantly within the Fujianese illegal community. 801 00:38:30,894 --> 00:38:32,861 Now, the gangs that have sprung up in these communities 802 00:38:32,862 --> 00:38:35,277 like the Fuk Ching Gang in New York City, for example, 803 00:38:35,278 --> 00:38:36,968 who maintain a hardcore membership 804 00:38:36,969 --> 00:38:39,317 of 500 gun-carrying people. 805 00:38:40,732 --> 00:38:43,389 These gangs have made their big money 806 00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:47,565 through people smuggling and narcotics importation. 807 00:38:47,566 --> 00:38:49,187 Now to furnish their cash flow 808 00:38:49,188 --> 00:38:52,743 they engage in kidnapping for ransom. 809 00:38:52,744 --> 00:38:55,435 Now, there's one particular case that springs to mind 810 00:38:55,436 --> 00:38:57,852 that involved a group called the Flying Dragons. 811 00:38:59,060 --> 00:39:00,337 What they did in this particular instance, 812 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,443 they kidnapped three people, all separately, 813 00:39:03,444 --> 00:39:05,997 all unknown to each other, all randomly. 814 00:39:05,998 --> 00:39:10,381 Had the particular victims place a phone call back to China 815 00:39:10,382 --> 00:39:14,109 under duress, extreme torture as a matter of fact, 816 00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:15,629 seeking $36,000, 817 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,530 36 being a significant number in triad mythology. 818 00:39:21,531 --> 00:39:24,361 So what they're doing, they're sending a signal 819 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:27,743 to the family in China that you're dealing with triads. 820 00:39:27,744 --> 00:39:30,470 In this particular case, the poor family 821 00:39:30,471 --> 00:39:32,990 couldn't come up with more than $5,000. 822 00:39:32,991 --> 00:39:35,268 So what they did on a subsequent phone call, 823 00:39:35,269 --> 00:39:40,135 they took a Chinese meat cleaver, not unlike this one, 824 00:39:40,136 --> 00:39:42,069 and removed her small finger. 825 00:39:43,346 --> 00:39:45,312 Unfortunately, the family could not raise any more 826 00:39:45,313 --> 00:39:49,109 as it turns out, and they ended up murdering her, 827 00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:51,423 after torturing her for two weeks. 828 00:39:57,981 --> 00:39:59,913 Ultimately, the experts are unanimous 829 00:39:59,914 --> 00:40:02,502 on one point we will probably never 830 00:40:02,503 --> 00:40:04,194 be able to stamp out the triads. 831 00:40:05,644 --> 00:40:07,887 A recent report states that worried Chinese authorities 832 00:40:07,888 --> 00:40:11,408 believe there may be as many as 150,000 criminal gangs 833 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,548 with over one and a half million gang members 834 00:40:13,549 --> 00:40:16,552 connected to large syndicates now operating in China. 835 00:40:18,139 --> 00:40:20,762 However, 1998 saw a world-leading 836 00:40:20,763 --> 00:40:24,455 3,500 criminal executions carried out there. 837 00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:27,804 Harsh steps to discourage the rising flood of criminality. 838 00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:31,566 Police commissioner Peter Ryan says anti-crime forces 839 00:40:31,567 --> 00:40:34,707 around the world are now enjoying more success, 840 00:40:34,708 --> 00:40:37,641 but admits it's never time to be complacent. 841 00:40:37,642 --> 00:40:39,539 I'd rather not say we were losing the war 842 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,473 or winning the war, but to say that we're keeping abreast 843 00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:44,889 of the changes in organized crime league, 844 00:40:44,890 --> 00:40:46,546 people who are behind it. 845 00:40:46,547 --> 00:40:50,447 We've had some very, very significant seizures of heroin, 846 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:53,208 particularly only last year we seized a ship 847 00:40:53,209 --> 00:40:57,419 carrying somewhere in the region of 400 kilograms of heroin. 848 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:01,181 Street value of nearly $500 million or thereabouts. 849 00:41:01,182 --> 00:41:04,288 We've seized a number of ships carrying people. 850 00:41:04,289 --> 00:41:06,980 We've caught people coming in at the airport. 851 00:41:06,981 --> 00:41:09,293 We've disrupted money laundering chains 852 00:41:09,294 --> 00:41:13,435 and we've arrested quite a few senior gang leaders. 853 00:41:13,436 --> 00:41:15,299 So we're on top of these people. 854 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,197 But the problem with it is, of course, 855 00:41:17,198 --> 00:41:19,545 that organized crime always finds 856 00:41:19,546 --> 00:41:21,581 a new outlet for its activities. 857 00:41:21,582 --> 00:41:23,514 No matter how careful we are, no matter 858 00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:26,103 how good the police are to track them down, 859 00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:28,105 the moment we're on their tail, 860 00:41:28,106 --> 00:41:30,210 they move on to another enterprise. 861 00:41:30,211 --> 00:41:32,143 They have far more money than law enforcement. 862 00:41:32,144 --> 00:41:35,112 As you know, many of these major international gangs 863 00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:37,804 have got more money than many countries have. 864 00:41:37,805 --> 00:41:40,566 So they can very quickly change their activity 865 00:41:40,567 --> 00:41:42,154 from one activity to another. 866 00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,467 As long as there is a criminal dollar to be made, 867 00:41:45,468 --> 00:41:47,124 they will pursue it with a ruthlessness 868 00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:49,196 matched by few other crime syndicates. 869 00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,094 Global criminals continue to evolve 870 00:41:52,095 --> 00:41:55,097 and change faster than we can move against them. 871 00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:58,480 However, no one is throwing in the towel. 872 00:41:58,481 --> 00:42:01,518 It is of course right that Western governments 873 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:04,210 and indeed Eastern governments, Chinese government, 874 00:42:04,211 --> 00:42:06,281 the Taiwanese government should act 875 00:42:06,282 --> 00:42:08,490 against organized criminals. 876 00:42:08,491 --> 00:42:09,975 They undermine society. 877 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,461 Having said that, the Chinese triads 878 00:42:14,462 --> 00:42:16,912 are a fascinating difference. 879 00:42:16,913 --> 00:42:21,848 You can't say that the mafia are a part of Italy's heritage 880 00:42:21,849 --> 00:42:25,127 or the Cosa Nostra is a part of Italy's heritage. 881 00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:27,682 But you can say that Chinese secret societies 882 00:42:27,683 --> 00:42:31,375 are integral to Chinese society. 883 00:42:31,376 --> 00:42:34,723 They have their roots in the culture of that country. 884 00:42:34,724 --> 00:42:37,795 For centuries, they were accepted. 885 00:42:37,796 --> 00:42:40,177 And in some Chinese communities to this day, 886 00:42:40,178 --> 00:42:43,698 even though they may be parasitizing that society 887 00:42:43,699 --> 00:42:46,666 by demanding protection money and so forth, 888 00:42:46,667 --> 00:42:50,982 they may also be benefiting that society in some instances. 889 00:42:52,052 --> 00:42:54,054 To criticize the triads 890 00:42:55,676 --> 00:42:59,576 as criminal gangs is right today. 891 00:42:59,577 --> 00:43:00,784 But you have to realize 892 00:43:00,785 --> 00:43:03,649 that historically they weren't criminals. 893 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:05,443 They were often outlaws, 894 00:43:05,444 --> 00:43:10,069 but they played an important part in the foundation 895 00:43:10,070 --> 00:43:13,313 and development of Chinese history. 896 00:43:13,314 --> 00:43:15,005 You can't even eradicate triads 897 00:43:15,006 --> 00:43:17,041 in their own home turf Hong Kong. 898 00:43:17,042 --> 00:43:19,699 That will never happen, even though it's been 899 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,184 illegal, for example, in Hong Kong to be a member 900 00:43:22,185 --> 00:43:26,154 of a triad since at least 1840, it hasn't been eradicated. 901 00:43:26,155 --> 00:43:29,951 And I don't think within the West we have any chance 902 00:43:29,952 --> 00:43:32,988 of eradicating foreign-based crime groups 903 00:43:32,989 --> 00:43:34,887 such as these different Chinese groups 904 00:43:34,888 --> 00:43:37,234 because they are far too sophisticated 905 00:43:37,235 --> 00:43:39,961 and we actually know very little about them. 906 00:43:39,962 --> 00:43:41,721 Well, I think what they're finding, 907 00:43:41,722 --> 00:43:46,624 the myth that this secret society that no one will cooperate 908 00:43:48,073 --> 00:43:50,385 with law enforcement, namely the victims won't cooperate, 909 00:43:50,386 --> 00:43:54,423 or their own individuals will not cooperate, has been false 910 00:43:54,424 --> 00:43:56,633 because we've gotten great cooperation 911 00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:58,704 through witnesses in the community 912 00:43:58,705 --> 00:44:01,845 and outstanding cooperation from their own members 913 00:44:01,846 --> 00:44:05,227 who find themself having a problem 914 00:44:05,228 --> 00:44:10,268 with particular cases and are willing to give up everybody. 915 00:44:11,718 --> 00:44:14,064 So as law enforcement and community start understanding 916 00:44:14,065 --> 00:44:15,583 that these are just people 917 00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:19,690 and they're criminals, 918 00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:22,486 and we can have an impact on them 919 00:44:22,487 --> 00:44:27,250 and through mutual cooperations with countries, 920 00:44:28,458 --> 00:44:30,528 if we can't get 'em here, they may be able 921 00:44:30,529 --> 00:44:33,256 to get 'em someplace else and put 'em out of business. 922 00:44:34,948 --> 00:44:36,880 So now, after centuries of battle 923 00:44:36,881 --> 00:44:39,745 against a sinister network of crime and murder, 924 00:44:39,746 --> 00:44:42,576 the war is set to continue well into the new millennium. 925 00:44:43,819 --> 00:44:45,820 As long as the triads can continue to adapt 926 00:44:45,821 --> 00:44:48,685 and refine their highly efficient and ruthless network, 927 00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:50,652 law enforcement officers admit 928 00:44:50,653 --> 00:44:52,586 they will never be totally destroyed. 929 00:44:53,414 --> 00:44:55,174 That does not mean defeat. 930 00:44:55,175 --> 00:44:57,348 It means we'll just have to continue the fight 931 00:44:57,349 --> 00:45:01,145 against what remains as the world's largest crime syndicate. 932 00:45:01,146 --> 00:45:03,838 I'm Robert Stack, thanks for joining us. 75202

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