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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,007 --> 00:00:02,820 UFOs with extraordinary capabilities are present in our skies, 2 00:00:02,844 --> 00:00:05,601 according to a team of former US Government insiders. 3 00:00:05,625 --> 00:00:08,754 This program features military eyewitnesses 4 00:00:08,778 --> 00:00:11,671 describing these unidentified craft for the first time. 5 00:00:12,793 --> 00:00:14,920 On Unidentified. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,123 We had been hearing rumors 7 00:00:17,148 --> 00:00:19,424 that there was a senior Navy official 8 00:00:19,424 --> 00:00:20,693 in the Italian government 9 00:00:20,718 --> 00:00:22,556 who may be interesting in speaking with us. 10 00:00:23,007 --> 00:00:25,570 In Sicily, a craft appeared... 11 00:00:25,968 --> 00:00:28,515 it shoot... 12 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:29,905 a ray. 13 00:00:29,930 --> 00:00:31,056 This is nuts. 14 00:00:31,081 --> 00:00:32,082 These are all their, 15 00:00:32,107 --> 00:00:32,694 Tom. 16 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:33,225 Yeah. 17 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:34,492 These are all their events. 18 00:00:34,809 --> 00:00:35,894 This is it. 19 00:00:35,919 --> 00:00:37,086 This is the briefing. 20 00:00:37,111 --> 00:00:38,571 This has just now crossed the line 21 00:00:38,596 --> 00:00:40,125 to a true national security threat. 22 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:41,666 This is a worldwide phenomenon. 23 00:00:42,143 --> 00:00:43,812 Is it interdimensional? 24 00:00:43,837 --> 00:00:45,463 Is it from another planet? 25 00:00:46,344 --> 00:00:47,998 It's a whole fleet of them. 26 00:00:48,788 --> 00:00:49,696 Oh, my gosh. 27 00:00:50,328 --> 00:00:51,496 For eight years, 28 00:00:51,521 --> 00:00:54,774 Lue Elizondo ran a secret UFO investigation 29 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:55,890 for the US military. 30 00:00:55,915 --> 00:00:58,918 But in 2017, he quit in protest. 31 00:00:59,109 --> 00:01:00,893 I put my entire future on the line 32 00:01:00,965 --> 00:01:02,572 because I believe in what I believe in. 33 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:04,144 Now he joined an elite group 34 00:01:04,169 --> 00:01:05,566 of former government insiders. 35 00:01:06,077 --> 00:01:09,803 Their mission, reveal what they see is the truth about UFOs. 36 00:01:09,828 --> 00:01:10,616 This is real, 37 00:01:10,641 --> 00:01:12,162 and we're gonna get to the bottom of it. 38 00:01:12,914 --> 00:01:15,586 For the past year, Elizondo's investigation 39 00:01:15,611 --> 00:01:17,113 has produced shocking revelations 40 00:01:17,138 --> 00:01:18,571 from military eye witnesses. 41 00:01:19,151 --> 00:01:21,189 That is something I have never seen. 42 00:01:21,791 --> 00:01:23,635 Two Navy fighter pilots told him 43 00:01:23,660 --> 00:01:27,730 they came face to face with a Tic-Tac-shaped UFO in 2004. 44 00:01:28,259 --> 00:01:31,493 High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. 45 00:01:31,815 --> 00:01:34,571 How could I possibly fight this? 46 00:01:35,287 --> 00:01:37,080 And a Navy radar operator said 47 00:01:37,105 --> 00:01:39,552 he tracked an entire fleet of the unidentified craft 48 00:01:40,108 --> 00:01:41,378 flying over the Pacific. 49 00:01:41,739 --> 00:01:43,783 I had these objects raining out of the sky, 50 00:01:44,764 --> 00:01:46,653 If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. 51 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:49,162 But these stories were just the beginning. 52 00:01:49,427 --> 00:01:50,872 They're up there when we take off. 53 00:01:51,213 --> 00:01:54,559 And then we land, and my buddy that takes off an hour later 54 00:01:54,584 --> 00:01:55,947 had seen the same things. 55 00:01:56,147 --> 00:01:57,287 Lou Elizondo discovered 56 00:01:57,312 --> 00:01:58,795 a different class of UFOs. 57 00:01:58,820 --> 00:01:59,890 There's a whole fleet of 'em. 58 00:01:59,915 --> 00:02:01,663 Allegedly stalked Navy fighter pilots 59 00:02:01,719 --> 00:02:03,766 off the East Coast in 2015 60 00:02:03,791 --> 00:02:05,476 It seemed like they're aware of our presence 61 00:02:05,501 --> 00:02:08,016 because they would actively move around us. 62 00:02:08,410 --> 00:02:09,759 And they even followed the pilots 63 00:02:09,784 --> 00:02:10,869 to the Middle East. 64 00:02:13,939 --> 00:02:16,230 We really have no idea what we're dealing with. 65 00:02:17,106 --> 00:02:18,004 But there's one thing 66 00:02:18,154 --> 00:02:19,573 his investigation has never found, 67 00:02:20,897 --> 00:02:21,773 until now. 68 00:02:43,318 --> 00:02:44,530 I don't know if it was a journey 69 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:47,694 more or less than an odyssey that hasn't finished yet. 70 00:02:48,851 --> 00:02:51,145 It was probably one of the most difficult decisions 71 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:54,186 I ever made in my life, with the ramifications 72 00:02:54,211 --> 00:02:56,132 that it could be potentially disastrous. 73 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:58,382 You know, it's not just me I gotta worry about. 74 00:02:58,927 --> 00:03:01,434 I gotta worry about my wife, my two daughters. 75 00:03:02,767 --> 00:03:06,598 I gave it all up to do what I thought was right. 76 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:11,603 Half the people that I know think I'm crazy. 77 00:03:12,401 --> 00:03:14,486 The other half of the people I know don't understand. 78 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:18,323 At the end of the day, I hope that people 79 00:03:18,348 --> 00:03:20,975 a lot smarter than me will come out of the shadows 80 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,788 and tell the government what they know. 81 00:03:23,429 --> 00:03:26,014 I did this because I needed our leadership and government 82 00:03:26,311 --> 00:03:27,648 to finally take notice. 83 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:30,896 The only way I could fix the system 84 00:03:30,921 --> 00:03:32,548 was to fix it from the outside. 85 00:03:36,592 --> 00:03:38,771 Lue Elizondo and his partner, Tom DeLonge 86 00:03:39,106 --> 00:03:40,816 are on their way to Rome, Italy. 87 00:03:41,945 --> 00:03:43,404 When I was in the government, 88 00:03:43,429 --> 00:03:45,272 I just couldn't go to France or Italy 89 00:03:45,448 --> 00:03:47,968 and have a conversation about UFOs 90 00:03:48,262 --> 00:03:50,307 with their national defense apparatus. 91 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:52,338 They've been invited to a private meeting 92 00:03:52,771 --> 00:03:54,815 with senior Italian military officials 93 00:03:54,997 --> 00:03:56,924 concerned about UFO encounters. 94 00:04:02,252 --> 00:04:04,629 Yeah, I'd been hearing for a while 95 00:04:04,654 --> 00:04:07,415 rumors that there was a potential attack 96 00:04:07,635 --> 00:04:09,153 on an Italian aircraft. 97 00:04:10,347 --> 00:04:14,101 This is the first time that myself, even being in AATIP, 98 00:04:14,218 --> 00:04:18,527 was ever aware of an actual hostile act. 99 00:04:31,209 --> 00:04:32,543 Italy is one of the few nations 100 00:04:32,568 --> 00:04:34,612 that openly investigates UFOs. 101 00:04:36,608 --> 00:04:39,498 When Tom and myself first came to Italy, 102 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:42,532 it was made very clear to us 103 00:04:43,053 --> 00:04:45,911 that this is not an Italian phenomenon. 104 00:04:46,326 --> 00:04:47,809 It's not an American phenomenon. 105 00:04:47,834 --> 00:04:49,664 It is indeed a global phenomenon. 106 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:53,418 We believe that investigating 107 00:04:53,418 --> 00:04:56,004 and communicating the subject can help 108 00:04:56,029 --> 00:04:58,240 pull people of all nations together. 109 00:04:58,974 --> 00:05:01,841 Every government want to keep 110 00:05:01,866 --> 00:05:05,435 extremely secret any information 111 00:05:06,489 --> 00:05:07,957 Clarbruno Verdruccio is a scientist 112 00:05:07,982 --> 00:05:11,582 and a commander in an elite unit of the Italian Navy. 113 00:05:13,621 --> 00:05:16,042 For the past 15 years, he's been investigating 114 00:05:16,074 --> 00:05:18,952 unidentified craft with a team of researchers. 115 00:05:21,098 --> 00:05:24,347 So I know several information. 116 00:05:24,372 --> 00:05:27,051 But my government don't want to know. 117 00:05:27,076 --> 00:05:31,199 Because if my government know... 118 00:05:31,224 --> 00:05:34,381 They must do something. 119 00:05:34,406 --> 00:05:35,333 Absolutely. 120 00:05:35,457 --> 00:05:37,473 I would like to see what you have. 121 00:05:37,498 --> 00:05:38,885 That's what I'd like to see Oh, yeah. 122 00:05:38,910 --> 00:05:42,043 If I tell you something that is restricted, 123 00:05:42,068 --> 00:05:45,520 you must give us something restricted. 124 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:46,193 Well, that's... 125 00:05:46,725 --> 00:05:47,951 We are not Russian. 126 00:05:47,976 --> 00:05:49,732 We are brothers. 127 00:05:50,562 --> 00:05:55,702 You have to give me something of the same weight. 128 00:05:55,926 --> 00:05:57,726 I still have to be cognizant 129 00:05:57,967 --> 00:05:59,896 of the security clearance I hold. 130 00:06:00,269 --> 00:06:03,191 So please do not confuse 131 00:06:03,216 --> 00:06:06,456 my speaking in generalities 132 00:06:06,911 --> 00:06:09,107 as trying to avoid a question. 133 00:06:09,528 --> 00:06:11,644 During our time in the AATIP program, 134 00:06:12,078 --> 00:06:15,531 we were focused on only two primary objectives. 135 00:06:16,219 --> 00:06:19,508 Those two objectives: What is it, and how does it work? 136 00:06:20,287 --> 00:06:21,797 We still don't know what they are, 137 00:06:22,211 --> 00:06:24,567 but we have a much better understanding now 138 00:06:24,822 --> 00:06:26,208 of how they work. 139 00:06:26,947 --> 00:06:31,282 We assembled more than 13,000 cases. 140 00:06:31,986 --> 00:06:34,205 During the last 70 years. 141 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:35,369 And we have a database. 142 00:06:35,928 --> 00:06:37,092 The Italians have accumulated 143 00:06:37,117 --> 00:06:39,073 one of the world's largest collections of data 144 00:06:39,098 --> 00:06:42,105 on unidentified aerial phenomenon or UAP. 145 00:06:43,144 --> 00:06:46,293 Unfortunately, if this is not shared 146 00:06:46,902 --> 00:06:50,152 with other people outside of Italy. 147 00:06:50,177 --> 00:06:50,746 It is useless. 148 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:52,810 We now have eyewitnesses, 149 00:06:55,175 --> 00:06:57,075 from a broad range of individuals 150 00:07:02,077 --> 00:07:03,686 who have top secret clearances 151 00:07:09,116 --> 00:07:10,277 who are trained observers 152 00:07:14,787 --> 00:07:17,233 who are trusted to fly live munitions over cities 153 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:24,818 and fight wars and win them on our behalf. 154 00:07:25,052 --> 00:07:26,873 For the first time we are gonna be, 155 00:07:26,898 --> 00:07:28,303 be guests of the Italian government 156 00:07:28,385 --> 00:07:30,952 and we are gonna be working with those individuals 157 00:07:31,382 --> 00:07:33,447 to see what they're willing to share with us. 158 00:07:33,472 --> 00:07:35,626 We'd like to get into an information sharing agreement 159 00:07:35,651 --> 00:07:37,440 with them, of course at the unclassified level but 160 00:07:37,499 --> 00:07:39,019 see what they're willing to share 161 00:07:39,044 --> 00:07:40,885 and see if anything that they share with us 162 00:07:40,910 --> 00:07:42,383 happens to match some of the same profiles 163 00:07:42,408 --> 00:07:43,275 we're seeing over here. 164 00:07:43,687 --> 00:07:45,892 There are increasing number of people in the United States, 165 00:07:49,202 --> 00:07:49,992 and the government 166 00:07:53,105 --> 00:07:55,983 that are beginning to take this conversation very seriously. 167 00:08:00,786 --> 00:08:01,809 I submit to you, 168 00:08:04,963 --> 00:08:06,707 if any of these vehicles 169 00:08:11,252 --> 00:08:13,689 had a foreign adversary flag on the tail, 170 00:08:20,471 --> 00:08:22,236 or identification number, 171 00:08:24,461 --> 00:08:27,140 and they could come into our airspace without impunity, 172 00:08:30,695 --> 00:08:32,296 it would be a national security issue. 173 00:08:36,798 --> 00:08:38,444 There's one incident in particular, 174 00:08:38,547 --> 00:08:40,174 the officials want to discuss. 175 00:08:40,367 --> 00:08:44,507 In 2004, in Sicily, a craft appeared... 176 00:08:44,688 --> 00:08:46,867 a few hundred meters... 177 00:08:46,892 --> 00:08:49,875 behind a copter tail. 178 00:08:51,735 --> 00:08:54,165 It shoot a ray... 179 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,836 that destroyed the helicopter wings. 180 00:08:58,861 --> 00:09:01,735 I can show you the photographs. 181 00:09:04,499 --> 00:09:06,775 This was the only helicopter in the air space 182 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,459 on a secret mission to actually investigate 183 00:09:09,484 --> 00:09:12,217 the UAP phenomenon off the coast of that island, 184 00:09:12,465 --> 00:09:13,716 and it gets zapped. 185 00:09:13,874 --> 00:09:15,997 And there are several pictures from different cameras 186 00:09:15,997 --> 00:09:18,161 on the island of the same helicopter 187 00:09:18,186 --> 00:09:19,286 and a UAP following it. 188 00:09:20,278 --> 00:09:22,084 Coming up on Unidentified. 189 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:23,600 So this was deliberate. 190 00:09:23,785 --> 00:09:25,436 You believe that it was a deliberate... 191 00:09:25,461 --> 00:09:26,176 Absolutely. 192 00:09:26,895 --> 00:09:29,324 I hate to say it, but they may have more information 193 00:09:29,349 --> 00:09:30,949 than we do even in the US. 194 00:09:30,974 --> 00:09:31,848 At this point, 195 00:09:31,873 --> 00:09:33,692 these things are coming up close and personal. 196 00:09:34,295 --> 00:09:35,849 We are being forced to address it. 197 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,255 I thought it was an important thing for our country. 198 00:09:38,469 --> 00:09:41,411 I think people who run from this are absolutely wrong. 199 00:09:50,576 --> 00:09:53,467 In 2004, in Sicily, a craft appeared... 200 00:09:53,492 --> 00:09:55,285 a few hundred meters... 201 00:09:55,310 --> 00:09:58,771 behind a copter tail. 202 00:10:00,471 --> 00:10:02,411 It shoot a ray... 203 00:10:03,813 --> 00:10:06,658 that destroyed the helicopter wings. 204 00:10:07,572 --> 00:10:10,378 I can show you the photographs. 205 00:10:10,754 --> 00:10:12,182 Oh, yeah. That's what I'd like to see. 206 00:10:12,580 --> 00:10:14,931 Clarbruno Verdruccio is a commander 207 00:10:14,956 --> 00:10:17,923 in the Italian military's equivalent of the US Navy SEALs. 208 00:10:18,605 --> 00:10:21,112 He's describing a harrowing 2004 encounter 209 00:10:21,382 --> 00:10:24,346 between one of his military helicopters and a UFO. 210 00:10:24,811 --> 00:10:27,249 We can't use missiles. 211 00:10:27,274 --> 00:10:29,530 against this device. 212 00:10:31,147 --> 00:10:33,085 We can't launch missile 213 00:10:33,327 --> 00:10:36,280 or the missile will be sent back. 214 00:10:37,108 --> 00:10:38,350 So this was deliberate. 215 00:10:38,468 --> 00:10:39,936 You believe that it was a deliberate-- 216 00:10:39,961 --> 00:10:40,969 Absolutely. 217 00:10:44,612 --> 00:10:47,615 In 2004, a series of spontaneous fires 218 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,891 broke out across Northern Sicily, 219 00:10:49,405 --> 00:10:51,986 destroying homes and forcing evacuations. 220 00:10:52,725 --> 00:10:54,710 The situation at Via Mare in Canneto Di Caronia 221 00:10:54,735 --> 00:10:55,936 is getting worse. 222 00:10:56,289 --> 00:10:57,766 This morning, a episode 223 00:10:57,791 --> 00:11:00,485 occurred with a house literally destroyed by fire. 224 00:11:01,898 --> 00:11:02,743 The Italian military 225 00:11:02,743 --> 00:11:04,617 sent a helicopter to investigate. 226 00:11:05,199 --> 00:11:08,269 Officials say the copter was chased by a saucer-shaped UFO 227 00:11:08,765 --> 00:11:10,918 that shot a powerful electromagnetic beam 228 00:11:10,918 --> 00:11:11,616 at its rotor. 229 00:11:12,425 --> 00:11:15,475 The helicopter was severely damaged but able to land. 230 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:18,851 The incident was photographed by a local resident. 231 00:11:20,345 --> 00:11:21,444 Locals had also reported 232 00:11:21,469 --> 00:11:23,470 seeing mysterious lights over the sea. 233 00:11:23,902 --> 00:11:26,558 For months, the military investigators were baffled, 234 00:11:27,268 --> 00:11:30,159 but they were able to piece together a few key details. 235 00:11:31,979 --> 00:11:35,697 This signal was absoutely directional. 236 00:11:36,041 --> 00:11:37,861 It was a beam. 237 00:11:39,104 --> 00:11:40,564 We discovered we could see them 238 00:11:40,589 --> 00:11:42,173 on a certain band of frequencies. 239 00:11:43,979 --> 00:11:48,633 Then we discovered when they use their energy weapons... 240 00:11:49,071 --> 00:11:51,656 They must go outside... 241 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:55,859 the stealth mode. 242 00:11:57,813 --> 00:12:01,109 Only in that moment, can we hit them... 243 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:05,023 with depleted uranium weapons. 244 00:12:08,233 --> 00:12:09,881 And now, what you say to me? 245 00:12:10,079 --> 00:12:11,451 Militaries around the world 246 00:12:11,476 --> 00:12:13,920 have electromagnetic pulse weapons that produce 247 00:12:13,945 --> 00:12:16,914 quick bursts of energy that can destroy electrical systems. 248 00:12:17,553 --> 00:12:19,585 But the Italians claim the pulse fired in the attack 249 00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:21,734 on their helicopter destroyed its rotor. 250 00:12:22,582 --> 00:12:24,644 No known military has that capability. 251 00:12:25,241 --> 00:12:26,297 They were very pointed 252 00:12:26,322 --> 00:12:28,384 and matter of fact that these things 253 00:12:28,409 --> 00:12:31,002 have been kind of plaguing them for some time. 254 00:12:31,134 --> 00:12:32,751 One individual in particular 255 00:12:33,629 --> 00:12:36,673 provided some very, very detailed information 256 00:12:37,174 --> 00:12:39,705 to include some analysis on frequency. 257 00:12:40,104 --> 00:12:42,273 I hate to say it, but they may have more information 258 00:12:42,273 --> 00:12:44,752 than we do even in the US potentially. 259 00:12:45,775 --> 00:12:47,681 The Italians say the spontaneous fires 260 00:12:47,706 --> 00:12:49,915 in Northern Sicily were also caused 261 00:12:49,940 --> 00:12:51,565 by an electromagnetic beam 262 00:12:51,833 --> 00:12:53,299 which they say came from the ocean. 263 00:12:54,837 --> 00:12:56,848 So the target was found 264 00:12:56,873 --> 00:12:59,641 at a distance of around 80 kilometers. 265 00:13:01,209 --> 00:13:03,271 The source was in the open sea. 266 00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:05,153 Do we have an altitude? 267 00:13:05,607 --> 00:13:06,802 It was not visible. 268 00:13:06,827 --> 00:13:08,974 Because it was in the bottom of the sea. 269 00:13:09,894 --> 00:13:11,937 Elizondo has heard reports of UFOs 270 00:13:11,962 --> 00:13:13,077 in the ocean before. 271 00:13:14,006 --> 00:13:15,529 We all very quickly realized 272 00:13:15,554 --> 00:13:16,935 that there was something in the water. 273 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,668 Lights that are under the water. 274 00:13:19,693 --> 00:13:21,295 And suddenly it stuck itself into the water. 275 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:21,958 In the water. 276 00:13:25,820 --> 00:13:29,155 You could use the same frequency 277 00:13:29,421 --> 00:13:32,937 to provide a radio beacon. 278 00:13:33,742 --> 00:13:35,562 To fall them 279 00:13:36,539 --> 00:13:37,046 First 280 00:13:37,071 --> 00:13:38,195 To attract them. 281 00:13:38,961 --> 00:13:44,461 To show them that we have understood their technology. 282 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,700 Yeah. Communication. 283 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:49,951 This was next level. 284 00:13:50,785 --> 00:13:52,128 One of our international friends 285 00:13:52,153 --> 00:13:54,199 may have even figured out a way to communicate. 286 00:13:57,609 --> 00:13:59,882 We didn't get that far at AATIP, that's for damn sure. 287 00:14:00,617 --> 00:14:04,554 Have you ever tried to contact those 288 00:14:04,579 --> 00:14:06,781 who are supposedly piloting these devices? 289 00:14:07,349 --> 00:14:08,653 I can't answer that question. 290 00:14:09,079 --> 00:14:11,670 Of course, it's quite classified. 291 00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:18,061 I cannot speak on behalf of if other efforts 292 00:14:18,968 --> 00:14:20,803 had existed within the US government. 293 00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:25,499 In Russia, and now, even in China, 294 00:14:25,718 --> 00:14:28,234 there is a tendency to organize 295 00:14:28,690 --> 00:14:30,635 at a government level 296 00:14:30,791 --> 00:14:33,581 in order to study such phenomena... 297 00:14:33,606 --> 00:14:36,206 and to find pursuits from these studies. 298 00:14:36,231 --> 00:14:37,246 You are aware of this? 299 00:14:37,558 --> 00:14:38,218 I am. 300 00:14:38,303 --> 00:14:38,878 Okay. 301 00:14:39,474 --> 00:14:40,950 I think we're all in the same boat. 302 00:14:43,272 --> 00:14:48,240 So my hope is with the help of you all and everybody else, 303 00:14:48,584 --> 00:14:51,201 we can move this topic forward. 304 00:14:51,330 --> 00:14:52,630 This affects humanity. 305 00:14:52,743 --> 00:14:54,130 This doesn't affect just one country. 306 00:14:54,607 --> 00:14:57,200 And so, the question is, in which way 307 00:14:57,498 --> 00:14:59,599 our association can help you? 308 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,075 As the meeting winds down, 309 00:15:04,556 --> 00:15:06,734 Elizondo, DeLonge and the Italian officials 310 00:15:06,981 --> 00:15:08,914 agree to form a global partnership. 311 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,215 If their governments won't take the threat seriously, 312 00:15:12,451 --> 00:15:15,287 they'll work together outside the system. 313 00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:18,798 The last moment of the last hour of our engagement 314 00:15:18,823 --> 00:15:22,493 with the Italian government, we were afforded a thumb drive, 315 00:15:23,133 --> 00:15:26,109 a thumb drive that has a tremendous amount of data on it 316 00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:28,484 about UAPs and here particularly in Italy. 317 00:15:37,017 --> 00:15:37,822 These are all their, 318 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:38,494 Tom. 319 00:15:38,569 --> 00:15:38,971 Yeah. 320 00:15:38,996 --> 00:15:40,206 These are all their events. 321 00:15:40,788 --> 00:15:41,972 I've got the whole thing here. 322 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:46,405 These are all the events since 1901 here in Italy. 323 00:15:46,524 --> 00:15:47,282 All the reports? 324 00:15:47,307 --> 00:15:50,149 All of them, the entire spreadsheet, 325 00:15:50,174 --> 00:15:51,377 lat, longs and everything. 326 00:15:52,272 --> 00:15:53,052 Oh, look at these. 327 00:15:53,077 --> 00:15:54,271 Look at these historical ones. 328 00:15:54,913 --> 00:15:55,763 This is nuts. 329 00:15:56,561 --> 00:15:57,756 Look, they got some analysis. 330 00:15:59,318 --> 00:16:02,505 Oh, man, this is the incident that happened down in Sicily. 331 00:16:02,844 --> 00:16:03,318 There it is. 332 00:16:03,343 --> 00:16:04,007 Look at that. 333 00:16:04,578 --> 00:16:05,640 That is incredible. 334 00:16:06,434 --> 00:16:07,374 This is it. 335 00:16:08,024 --> 00:16:09,500 This is where they had the helicopters. 336 00:16:09,525 --> 00:16:11,157 Son of a bitch, this is the briefing. 337 00:16:11,182 --> 00:16:12,725 There it is right behind it, right? 338 00:16:13,192 --> 00:16:14,547 And then when you come over here, 339 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:17,318 this is the actual top secret investigation they did. 340 00:16:17,735 --> 00:16:20,285 Here's the rotors, and here's a closeup. 341 00:16:21,576 --> 00:16:26,273 Had any foreign adversary attacked a military helicopter 342 00:16:26,298 --> 00:16:29,013 of another nation, that could be a sign of aggression 343 00:16:29,038 --> 00:16:31,188 for sure and maybe potentially an act of war. 344 00:16:31,653 --> 00:16:33,360 So, that's a big deal. 345 00:16:33,385 --> 00:16:35,177 Coming up on Unidentified. 346 00:16:35,202 --> 00:16:37,079 What will your feelings be if it turns out 347 00:16:37,104 --> 00:16:40,334 that it is not a US capability? 348 00:16:40,913 --> 00:16:41,897 Then it's something else. 349 00:16:42,154 --> 00:16:43,288 We're at step four, 350 00:16:43,313 --> 00:16:45,670 and these things are at step 30 or 300. 351 00:16:55,908 --> 00:16:57,651 It is incumbent upon any government 352 00:16:57,676 --> 00:16:59,094 to protect its people. 353 00:16:59,234 --> 00:17:01,699 And if there's any military aircraft 354 00:17:01,724 --> 00:17:03,285 that is interfered with, 355 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,420 that could be a sign of vulnerabilities, 356 00:17:05,905 --> 00:17:07,303 and that's a huge issue. 357 00:17:14,815 --> 00:17:15,690 Hey, what's up? 358 00:17:15,873 --> 00:17:17,596 Lue Elizondo is back from Italy. 359 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 He's meeting up with his partner, Steve Justice. 360 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:23,073 Justice is the former director of advanced systems 361 00:17:23,314 --> 00:17:25,994 for Lockheed Martin's legendary Skunk Works division. 362 00:17:26,132 --> 00:17:27,187 Here's the bottom line. 363 00:17:27,212 --> 00:17:28,132 There's three options. 364 00:17:30,417 --> 00:17:31,546 It's a foreign technology. 365 00:17:32,481 --> 00:17:34,533 The second option is it's our technology, 366 00:17:35,043 --> 00:17:36,988 something that we had managed to keep under wraps 367 00:17:37,146 --> 00:17:38,176 for a super long time. 368 00:17:38,496 --> 00:17:42,582 The third option is that this is something else. 369 00:17:44,170 --> 00:17:45,514 Where does that leave us? 370 00:17:47,142 --> 00:17:48,053 Over the past year, 371 00:17:48,371 --> 00:17:50,003 Elizondo and Justice have met 372 00:17:50,028 --> 00:17:53,167 to explore possible explanations for the incredible accounts 373 00:17:53,192 --> 00:17:55,480 of the US military encounters with UFOs. 374 00:17:56,136 --> 00:17:57,383 Yeah, got it! 375 00:17:57,704 --> 00:18:00,105 They discussed whether UFOs could actually be 376 00:18:00,130 --> 00:18:02,656 top secret American military test aircraft 377 00:18:03,136 --> 00:18:04,383 and the pilots they interview 378 00:18:04,538 --> 00:18:06,342 were merely unwitting test subjects. 379 00:18:07,271 --> 00:18:09,550 I can't completely eliminate the fact 380 00:18:09,575 --> 00:18:11,895 that those type of velocities potentially, 381 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:18,027 potentially achievable with certain technologies we have. 382 00:18:18,198 --> 00:18:19,230 It's possible. 383 00:18:19,584 --> 00:18:24,663 It could be because, you know, it was an operational test. 384 00:18:25,742 --> 00:18:27,744 You know, not everybody gets to know everything. 385 00:18:28,742 --> 00:18:30,835 They also consider whether these UFOs 386 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:33,437 could be advanced aircraft from a foreign adversary. 387 00:18:35,445 --> 00:18:37,523 A foreign adversary, they would have to send in 388 00:18:37,548 --> 00:18:39,257 something that's super sophisticated, fast, 389 00:18:39,282 --> 00:18:41,648 that can get in, look at what it is we're doing, 390 00:18:41,932 --> 00:18:43,203 and then get back out, right? 391 00:18:43,322 --> 00:18:46,227 My greatest fear is that an adversary did figure it out 392 00:18:46,922 --> 00:18:50,243 and we are just way, way, way, way, way behind. 393 00:18:52,090 --> 00:18:54,175 The third and most controversial theory 394 00:18:54,660 --> 00:18:57,528 is that these unidentified craft are not of this world. 395 00:18:58,998 --> 00:19:02,003 These things that we're seeing, they don't have wings. 396 00:19:02,028 --> 00:19:03,098 They don't have tails. 397 00:19:03,148 --> 00:19:05,254 They don't really have any cockpits that we can see. 398 00:19:05,531 --> 00:19:08,409 They don't have anything that we would normally associate 399 00:19:08,862 --> 00:19:10,257 with a traditional aircraft. 400 00:19:10,391 --> 00:19:10,838 Right. 401 00:19:10,878 --> 00:19:15,401 We can create systems that do pieces of each of these 402 00:19:16,816 --> 00:19:20,006 and not a single system that does all of these. 403 00:19:21,074 --> 00:19:21,628 Precisely. 404 00:19:22,347 --> 00:19:24,628 When we were at AATIP, we had some really smart people. 405 00:19:24,653 --> 00:19:26,097 These were scientists, academics 406 00:19:26,591 --> 00:19:28,518 who had put a lot of time and effort 407 00:19:28,543 --> 00:19:30,782 into trying to figure out the physics of this. 408 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:32,063 Look at this thing! 409 00:19:32,498 --> 00:19:35,298 We were looking at what are these things 410 00:19:35,323 --> 00:19:37,740 and what will it take to explain them 411 00:19:38,078 --> 00:19:40,830 and then to exploit them and be able to build them. 412 00:19:40,915 --> 00:19:42,867 Although we were focused on the nuts and bolts, 413 00:19:42,892 --> 00:19:45,311 we were trying to look at all potential possibilities 414 00:19:45,336 --> 00:19:46,962 and options of what this could be. 415 00:19:47,171 --> 00:19:49,712 Part of that was a commissioning of several studies 416 00:19:49,737 --> 00:19:53,026 that has now become quite public, 37 studies. 417 00:19:53,128 --> 00:19:53,581 Right. 418 00:19:55,376 --> 00:19:57,134 This declassified list of studies 419 00:19:57,386 --> 00:19:59,454 Elizondo's secret UFO program commissioned 420 00:19:59,479 --> 00:20:01,509 was released to the public in 2019 421 00:20:02,321 --> 00:20:05,141 thanks to the efforts of the late senator John McCain. 422 00:20:06,856 --> 00:20:10,399 I'm gonna pull up real quick here, this is a letter... 423 00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:12,623 Oh, this is the McCain... 424 00:20:13,026 --> 00:20:13,802 Yeah so, 425 00:20:14,104 --> 00:20:16,420 I think it's important we put this into context. 426 00:20:16,752 --> 00:20:20,853 This is the response by DIA to the late senator John McCain. 427 00:20:22,003 --> 00:20:24,040 Senator McCain has been there, done that, 428 00:20:24,151 --> 00:20:25,401 fought for this country. 429 00:20:25,745 --> 00:20:28,978 For him to take the time to do this, 430 00:20:29,625 --> 00:20:30,791 I think it's very telling. 431 00:20:30,935 --> 00:20:32,164 And at this point in time, 432 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,219 he knew what his fate was as well. 433 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,079 And so it's clear he wanted to accomplish some things. 434 00:20:37,742 --> 00:20:41,005 In July 2018, Senator McCain sent a request 435 00:20:41,030 --> 00:20:42,647 to the Defense Intelligence Agency 436 00:20:42,863 --> 00:20:44,990 for all non-classified documents from Elizondo's 437 00:20:45,015 --> 00:20:47,517 secret program to be released to the public. 438 00:20:48,178 --> 00:20:50,402 Now that the list of studies has been released 439 00:20:50,825 --> 00:20:54,100 by the US government, we really weren't looking 440 00:20:54,125 --> 00:20:55,835 at aircraft 40 years in the future. 441 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:58,914 We were looking at a paradigm-changing technology 442 00:20:59,499 --> 00:21:01,505 to try to help explain the phenomenon. 443 00:21:01,530 --> 00:21:02,092 Correct. 444 00:21:02,669 --> 00:21:04,686 The biggest obstacle these things have to overcome 445 00:21:04,711 --> 00:21:05,404 is a lot of these 446 00:21:05,429 --> 00:21:07,294 were typically classified as pseudoscience. 447 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:07,944 Right. 448 00:21:08,570 --> 00:21:09,952 The studies explored complex 449 00:21:09,977 --> 00:21:11,386 theoretical topics 450 00:21:11,411 --> 00:21:14,461 like invisibility, wormholes and antigravity, 451 00:21:14,908 --> 00:21:17,379 subjects many believe to be science fiction. 452 00:21:17,517 --> 00:21:18,501 This technology is, 453 00:21:18,526 --> 00:21:20,564 for all intents and purposes, magic. 454 00:21:21,038 --> 00:21:23,533 So, you know we would like to get it. 455 00:21:23,785 --> 00:21:26,397 Whoever cracks the code and figures this stuff out first 456 00:21:26,518 --> 00:21:28,077 would have a tremendous advantage 457 00:21:28,102 --> 00:21:29,369 over our other adversaries. 458 00:21:30,492 --> 00:21:33,134 What will your feelings be if it turns out 459 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:36,515 that it is not a foreign technology capability 460 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:39,985 and it's not a US capability? 461 00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:42,008 Then what? 462 00:21:43,687 --> 00:21:44,719 Then it's something else 463 00:21:45,648 --> 00:21:47,191 because it's hard to say it's not there. 464 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:50,842 The studies examined cutting edge theories, 465 00:21:51,022 --> 00:21:52,483 but they did not address the question 466 00:21:52,508 --> 00:21:54,905 that has shadowed the UFO community for decades, 467 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:57,449 the possibility that intelligent life 468 00:21:57,474 --> 00:21:59,973 from another solar system has arrived on Earth. 469 00:22:00,364 --> 00:22:03,059 The question has been debated for decades 470 00:22:03,347 --> 00:22:04,528 with no hard proof. 471 00:22:10,589 --> 00:22:11,956 The question of whether or not 472 00:22:11,981 --> 00:22:14,089 there's extraterrestrial life is certainly 473 00:22:14,114 --> 00:22:16,057 a scientific question that deserves investigation. 474 00:22:16,276 --> 00:22:17,853 Matthew Kleban is a leading 475 00:22:17,878 --> 00:22:20,494 theoretical physicist at New York University. 476 00:22:20,642 --> 00:22:23,345 We now know that our own galaxy contains of order 477 00:22:23,370 --> 00:22:26,026 a hundred billion stars, and there are of order 478 00:22:26,051 --> 00:22:28,821 10 or a hundred bullion other galaxies that we can observe 479 00:22:28,846 --> 00:22:30,533 within the observable part of our universe. 480 00:22:30,891 --> 00:22:32,635 So you multiply those two numbers together 481 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:34,104 and it's a staggeringly huge figure. 482 00:22:34,918 --> 00:22:36,847 With the help of deep space telescopes, 483 00:22:36,872 --> 00:22:39,276 astrophysicists estimate that not only 484 00:22:39,301 --> 00:22:40,621 do billions of solar systems 485 00:22:40,646 --> 00:22:42,488 exist in our observable universe. 486 00:22:42,762 --> 00:22:45,769 Up to one in four contain a planet that can sustain life. 487 00:22:46,461 --> 00:22:50,168 It would be naive to think that we could be 488 00:22:50,193 --> 00:22:52,740 the only ones out there, and I get that. 489 00:22:53,956 --> 00:22:55,513 What I'm always fearful of 490 00:22:55,538 --> 00:22:57,286 is in people focusing in on aliens. 491 00:22:58,345 --> 00:23:01,115 Now you start going down the roads of, 492 00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:03,490 you know, is it from another planet, 493 00:23:03,515 --> 00:23:04,913 is it interdimensional, 494 00:23:05,692 --> 00:23:07,366 you know, is it spiritual. 495 00:23:07,391 --> 00:23:08,863 What is those things? 496 00:23:09,136 --> 00:23:12,301 And it opens up so many cans of worms that I just, 497 00:23:14,987 --> 00:23:18,015 I just don't allow myself to go down that path. 498 00:23:18,796 --> 00:23:20,328 I mean, I think it's disingenuous 499 00:23:20,353 --> 00:23:21,461 to say it's not an option. 500 00:23:21,486 --> 00:23:25,311 It's so unknown that we really have no idea 501 00:23:25,336 --> 00:23:26,473 what we're dealing with. 502 00:23:31,496 --> 00:23:33,831 Busy morning so far, lots going on actually. 503 00:23:33,856 --> 00:23:37,488 Lots of phone calls and emails on our favorite subject. 504 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,908 So, things are hopping 505 00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:46,135 very ah, very much looking forward to seeing the Senator. 506 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:49,454 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense 507 00:23:49,479 --> 00:23:51,665 for Intelligence, Chris Mellon is on his way 508 00:23:51,665 --> 00:23:53,697 to meet with a powerful ally in his mission 509 00:23:53,722 --> 00:23:56,260 to get the government to take the UFO threat seriously, 510 00:23:57,166 --> 00:23:59,910 former Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid. 511 00:24:01,782 --> 00:24:04,127 Harry Reid was convinced by doing his own research 512 00:24:04,152 --> 00:24:07,342 that this was something as an elected official 513 00:24:07,367 --> 00:24:09,217 he should probably care about. 514 00:24:09,242 --> 00:24:11,717 And he clearly convinced some of his colleagues 515 00:24:11,742 --> 00:24:14,076 in the Senate that it was important enough to look into 516 00:24:14,101 --> 00:24:15,929 and that's how this Pentagon program 517 00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:17,133 got started in the first place. 518 00:24:17,868 --> 00:24:19,782 Senator Reid was the driving force 519 00:24:19,807 --> 00:24:22,352 behind the creation of the Pentagon's secret UFO unit, 520 00:24:22,852 --> 00:24:23,891 known as ATIP. 521 00:24:24,477 --> 00:24:26,834 Reid retired from the Senate in 2017 522 00:24:27,453 --> 00:24:29,139 but he's still working behind the scenes 523 00:24:29,164 --> 00:24:31,695 to push the U.S. government to study what he believes 524 00:24:31,726 --> 00:24:34,123 is a clear and present danger to national security. 525 00:24:34,913 --> 00:24:38,505 There's a lot of very profound, very deep issues 526 00:24:38,530 --> 00:24:41,005 that an individual like Harry Reid is acutely aware of 527 00:24:41,045 --> 00:24:42,623 that he's been deeply involved with. 528 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:47,348 And for him to devote time to this issue 529 00:24:47,373 --> 00:24:50,287 in the twilight of his career is fascinating. 530 00:24:53,232 --> 00:24:58,614 We've been in a quandary, we have these very, very 531 00:24:59,233 --> 00:25:00,905 proficient best trained pilots in the world 532 00:25:01,506 --> 00:25:03,482 and they see these strange occurrences 533 00:25:04,157 --> 00:25:06,563 and in the past they've been afraid to say anything 534 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:09,587 to anyone for fear they would be looked at 535 00:25:10,425 --> 00:25:12,103 as a little strange, a little weird. 536 00:25:12,128 --> 00:25:16,206 So, for decades nothing has been done about these instances. 537 00:25:16,757 --> 00:25:19,170 What I wanted to do today initially 538 00:25:19,597 --> 00:25:21,037 is provide an update. 539 00:25:21,414 --> 00:25:22,381 Mellon wants Reid 540 00:25:22,406 --> 00:25:25,159 to know about the increasingly dangerous military encounters 541 00:25:25,184 --> 00:25:27,156 with UFO's his team has uncovered. 542 00:25:29,963 --> 00:25:33,332 We've learned that beginning in 2015, 543 00:25:33,699 --> 00:25:37,836 there were scores of encounters off the east coast 544 00:25:37,861 --> 00:25:38,853 of the United States 545 00:25:39,373 --> 00:25:43,204 with U.S. Naval fighters and unidentified flying objects 546 00:25:43,229 --> 00:25:44,630 of different kinds. 547 00:25:45,748 --> 00:25:48,174 And this was within minutes of a flying distance 548 00:25:48,199 --> 00:25:49,402 from the nation's capital. 549 00:25:50,657 --> 00:25:53,334 This is still unresolved and this is still continuing. 550 00:25:53,621 --> 00:25:55,878 And active duty pilots have approached us 551 00:25:56,425 --> 00:25:58,136 and shared these stories with us. 552 00:25:58,161 --> 00:25:59,761 Where ever we were they were there. 553 00:25:59,786 --> 00:26:01,518 So that could mean two things that could mean 554 00:26:01,543 --> 00:26:02,629 they were already there 555 00:26:02,999 --> 00:26:04,660 or they were following the strike group. 556 00:26:04,935 --> 00:26:06,764 Really the extraordinary things we learned 557 00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:08,420 from these pilots is that when 558 00:26:08,445 --> 00:26:10,976 they're carrier battle group deployed across the Atlantic 559 00:26:11,232 --> 00:26:13,046 they continue to encounter these things 560 00:26:13,162 --> 00:26:14,789 all the way across the Atlantic 561 00:26:15,063 --> 00:26:18,013 into the Middle East and even over Syria. 562 00:26:18,098 --> 00:26:21,398 We hear so much about off the coast of Florida 563 00:26:21,556 --> 00:26:24,735 and especially Virginia, people think that's the only place 564 00:26:25,258 --> 00:26:27,422 these unusual things have happened, it's not true. 565 00:26:27,672 --> 00:26:30,812 It's all over the world where we have battle groups. 566 00:26:31,234 --> 00:26:33,367 So this isn't anything that just is limited 567 00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:35,826 to the United States, it's a worldwide phenomenon. 568 00:26:36,428 --> 00:26:38,692 But we're finding in both these legislative 569 00:26:38,717 --> 00:26:41,395 and executive branch this still lingering concern 570 00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:42,053 about a stigma. 571 00:26:42,171 --> 00:26:44,615 But I never hid from it, I acknowledge it. 572 00:26:44,994 --> 00:26:47,142 I thought it was an important thing for our country. 573 00:26:47,382 --> 00:26:50,327 And I think people who run from this are absolutely wrong. 574 00:26:52,843 --> 00:26:54,514 Senator Reid secured funding 575 00:26:54,514 --> 00:26:56,475 for the Pentagon's secret UFO program in part 576 00:26:56,933 --> 00:26:58,389 because he and others had come 577 00:26:58,414 --> 00:27:01,429 to believe America's adversaries were gaining the advantage. 578 00:27:05,397 --> 00:27:08,811 Since I got interested in this, has been 579 00:27:09,933 --> 00:27:11,142 KGB Putin. 580 00:27:11,905 --> 00:27:14,255 He was head of the KGB and I guarantee you 581 00:27:15,037 --> 00:27:17,030 that he's got a lot of information on this 582 00:27:17,248 --> 00:27:19,662 and I would bet that Russia is ahead of us 583 00:27:19,983 --> 00:27:22,209 in looking into this scientifically. 584 00:27:22,210 --> 00:27:23,911 I don't know if this might look familiar. 585 00:27:23,936 --> 00:27:28,514 This was a briefing slide, a set of briefing charts 586 00:27:28,539 --> 00:27:30,483 prepared for the Deputy Secretary of Defense 587 00:27:31,104 --> 00:27:33,078 in advance of a meeting with you 588 00:27:33,437 --> 00:27:36,064 and I wanted to, since you mentioned Vladimir Putin, 589 00:27:36,642 --> 00:27:41,209 this was 2009 and so a decade ago. 590 00:27:41,788 --> 00:27:45,202 It says, quote, "According to Putin in the near future, 591 00:27:45,227 --> 00:27:47,116 Russia will have weapon systems 592 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:50,118 which no other country in the world has at the given time. 593 00:27:50,758 --> 00:27:52,469 The new technical systems will be capable 594 00:27:52,494 --> 00:27:54,930 of destroying targets at intercontinental distance 595 00:27:55,286 --> 00:27:57,736 with hypersonic speed and precision 596 00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:00,751 and with extreme maneuverability in altitude and course. 597 00:28:01,215 --> 00:28:04,283 And I repeat that is 10 years old. 598 00:28:04,469 --> 00:28:04,877 Correct. 599 00:28:04,902 --> 00:28:07,258 Think of the progresses made since that. 600 00:28:07,332 --> 00:28:09,031 And what have we been doing, not much. 601 00:28:09,631 --> 00:28:13,185 Yes, sir and we absolutely share your concern and... 602 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,924 and one of the things that is very frustrating to me 603 00:28:15,949 --> 00:28:18,144 is as a former defense department official myself, 604 00:28:18,195 --> 00:28:19,722 it's not even being examined, 605 00:28:19,747 --> 00:28:21,457 it's sitting on computer servers. 606 00:28:21,543 --> 00:28:23,222 You know why they're not looking at it, 607 00:28:23,373 --> 00:28:25,512 they don't want to, it's another issue 608 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:26,763 that they're trying to ignore. 609 00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:28,505 And that's what's happened over the years 610 00:28:28,530 --> 00:28:29,287 and that's too bad. 611 00:28:29,343 --> 00:28:31,817 We now have the technology of what else is going on 612 00:28:31,842 --> 00:28:34,279 in space, that information is coming in, 613 00:28:34,662 --> 00:28:37,154 it's all stored someplace in a computer bank 614 00:28:37,179 --> 00:28:38,272 and it can be pulled up. 615 00:28:38,403 --> 00:28:40,116 We're in an environment right now 616 00:28:40,141 --> 00:28:42,147 where there's sort of unprecedented distrust 617 00:28:42,172 --> 00:28:43,117 of our government. 618 00:28:43,163 --> 00:28:44,507 Do you have any reason to believe 619 00:28:44,532 --> 00:28:47,233 that there is a government coverup with UFOs 620 00:28:47,258 --> 00:28:48,975 that behind the scenes the government 621 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,742 actually really does know the answers and has a... 622 00:28:52,767 --> 00:28:55,063 I think the government doesn't know the answers 623 00:28:55,665 --> 00:28:58,741 but over the decades rather than try to find the answers, 624 00:28:58,766 --> 00:29:01,376 they've tried to cover up what the answers might be. 625 00:29:01,923 --> 00:29:03,267 In an effort to find answers 626 00:29:03,292 --> 00:29:06,728 we brought in aerospace entrepreneur Bob Bigelow. 627 00:29:07,259 --> 00:29:10,437 And Bob Bigelow has been very open about his views 628 00:29:10,462 --> 00:29:14,305 that he believes there are intelligent beings 629 00:29:14,446 --> 00:29:17,633 from some other place that have visited here. 630 00:29:18,188 --> 00:29:20,313 Bigelow was one of the few high profile people 631 00:29:20,338 --> 00:29:22,180 involved in the Pentagon secret program 632 00:29:22,205 --> 00:29:24,664 to say he believes the unidentified craft 633 00:29:25,158 --> 00:29:26,306 are from another world. 634 00:29:27,411 --> 00:29:30,103 Bob Bigelow recently said on national TV 635 00:29:30,128 --> 00:29:33,801 that he absolutely believes not only that alien life exists 636 00:29:33,826 --> 00:29:37,057 but that aliens are here, that aliens are visiting earth. 637 00:29:37,296 --> 00:29:38,343 Do you share that view? 638 00:29:38,537 --> 00:29:42,960 I feel it would be from a congressional standpoint, 639 00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:45,272 it would affect my credibility 640 00:29:45,666 --> 00:29:49,249 if I started talking about everything I know. 641 00:29:50,085 --> 00:29:51,704 Coming up on Unidentified. 642 00:29:51,961 --> 00:29:53,515 These are individuals that have 643 00:29:53,540 --> 00:29:55,398 to remain very, very much protected. 644 00:29:55,423 --> 00:29:58,062 Right before the meeting concluded I was pulled aside 645 00:30:10,113 --> 00:30:12,081 Okay, so it's a huge week for us. 646 00:30:12,613 --> 00:30:15,371 This is a really big moment so talk to me a little bit about 647 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:17,566 today and the people we're meeting. 648 00:30:17,915 --> 00:30:20,376 I'll be introducing you to an individual 649 00:30:20,401 --> 00:30:23,210 that worked with me when I was with ATIP. 650 00:30:24,954 --> 00:30:26,454 Lue Elizondo and Tom DeLonge 651 00:30:26,896 --> 00:30:28,079 are in Washington D.C. 652 00:30:28,528 --> 00:30:31,032 for a series of secret meetings with government officials. 653 00:30:32,285 --> 00:30:35,543 The reason for this meeting is to basically deconflict 654 00:30:35,568 --> 00:30:37,896 and coordinate where are some of the areas 655 00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:41,044 that we can continue help informing and push the cause. 656 00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:43,098 And they're gonna also let us know 657 00:30:43,123 --> 00:30:44,340 what they're doing on their end. 658 00:30:44,365 --> 00:30:46,622 We wanna make sure we don't step on each other's toes 659 00:30:46,647 --> 00:30:48,036 and we can help each other out. 660 00:30:48,061 --> 00:30:49,279 Since he left the Pentagon, 661 00:30:49,423 --> 00:30:51,740 Elizondo has been working to convince the military 662 00:30:52,035 --> 00:30:54,483 to create a formal process for pilots and others 663 00:30:54,641 --> 00:30:56,602 to report their encounters with UFOs. 664 00:30:57,133 --> 00:30:59,289 Just a year ago if I wanted to have a conversation 665 00:30:59,314 --> 00:31:00,882 in the halls of the Pentagon about this, 666 00:31:01,001 --> 00:31:04,126 I had to go into a vault that was located beside a schiff, 667 00:31:04,492 --> 00:31:06,758 I had to shut the door, turn on noisemakers 668 00:31:06,783 --> 00:31:08,884 and then I had to whisper in a very quiet voice 669 00:31:09,323 --> 00:31:11,869 because of the nature and the sensitivity and the stigma 670 00:31:11,894 --> 00:31:13,854 that was associated with this portfolio. 671 00:31:14,091 --> 00:31:15,268 And I think that's important 672 00:31:15,293 --> 00:31:17,466 because I think the conversation about this 673 00:31:17,816 --> 00:31:20,310 requires transparency, requires collaboration 674 00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:21,933 and it requires honesty. 675 00:31:22,718 --> 00:31:25,370 When you come across a game changing technology 676 00:31:25,395 --> 00:31:28,460 it's very, very important that you report that up 677 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:30,234 through the chain of command. 678 00:31:32,421 --> 00:31:33,522 The Department of Defense 679 00:31:33,547 --> 00:31:35,460 that was Elizondo's secret UFO program 680 00:31:35,732 --> 00:31:37,694 officially shut down in 2012 681 00:31:38,513 --> 00:31:40,732 but Elizondo says the investigation continues. 682 00:31:41,681 --> 00:31:44,743 In the DOD, there's two things that occur 683 00:31:44,768 --> 00:31:46,837 when you have an organization, there's paperwork 684 00:31:46,862 --> 00:31:48,555 when you start a program and there's paperwork 685 00:31:48,580 --> 00:31:49,884 when you end a program. 686 00:31:50,726 --> 00:31:52,679 You won't find any paperwork that ended ATIP. 687 00:31:53,994 --> 00:31:55,022 Over the past year, 688 00:31:55,491 --> 00:31:57,124 he's been communicating behind the scenes 689 00:31:57,704 --> 00:32:00,071 with a new team of Pentagon intelligence officers 690 00:32:00,207 --> 00:32:01,562 who are studying UFOs. 691 00:32:03,686 --> 00:32:06,172 ATIP is no longer run by a single office, 692 00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:09,334 there's now several offices that are engaged 693 00:32:09,473 --> 00:32:10,512 in this effort. 694 00:32:10,913 --> 00:32:14,162 We meet with people regularly involved in this effort. 695 00:32:14,795 --> 00:32:16,162 And that's about all I can say. 696 00:32:17,068 --> 00:32:17,865 Let's roll. 697 00:32:19,126 --> 00:32:20,912 Elizondo and DeLonge head to a meeting 698 00:32:20,952 --> 00:32:22,943 with three military intelligence officers. 699 00:32:24,814 --> 00:32:27,112 These are individuals that have to remain very, 700 00:32:27,137 --> 00:32:28,465 very much protected. 701 00:32:30,161 --> 00:32:33,192 There are extremely qualified people whom I trust, 702 00:32:33,761 --> 00:32:36,395 whom I personally know that are still running this effort. 703 00:32:36,995 --> 00:32:38,924 And it is being run with official blessing 704 00:32:39,525 --> 00:32:41,157 and that is what I'm prepared to say, 705 00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,634 I cannot go into anymore than that. 706 00:32:48,625 --> 00:32:50,375 The meeting lasts for over an hour. 707 00:32:50,781 --> 00:32:53,488 Right before the meeting concluded I was pulled aside 708 00:32:53,488 --> 00:32:55,407 and shared some private information 709 00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:59,578 that there is still some degree of animosity 710 00:32:59,603 --> 00:33:00,927 regarding my departure. 711 00:33:02,797 --> 00:33:04,382 I didn't ask for this portfolio, 712 00:33:04,407 --> 00:33:07,507 it was given to me and I committed myself to it 713 00:33:07,812 --> 00:33:08,843 from day one. 714 00:33:09,245 --> 00:33:12,003 You're given a mission that you believe in 715 00:33:12,028 --> 00:33:14,871 and your job is to finish that mission. 716 00:33:21,808 --> 00:33:22,854 Since he went public, 717 00:33:22,879 --> 00:33:25,235 Elizondo has been able to bring military eyewitnesses 718 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:27,753 out of the shadows and on the record. 719 00:33:28,669 --> 00:33:31,878 We finally have people having conversations 720 00:33:31,903 --> 00:33:33,769 about this enigma. 721 00:33:34,286 --> 00:33:36,771 When I get a call to go to the Pentagon 722 00:33:36,771 --> 00:33:39,067 and provide a now serious debrief, 723 00:33:39,469 --> 00:33:41,414 it's a little surreal. 724 00:33:41,711 --> 00:33:44,437 People have testified before Congress, 725 00:33:44,462 --> 00:33:46,875 these are active duty military personnel. 726 00:33:47,354 --> 00:33:49,555 Other people have had this issue as well, 727 00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:51,392 so it's not a one off with me. 728 00:33:51,469 --> 00:33:53,689 They have informed Congress, 729 00:33:53,714 --> 00:33:55,697 we have the executive department engaged. 730 00:33:56,251 --> 00:33:57,048 So far, 731 00:33:57,699 --> 00:34:00,016 this group of individuals have made more progress 732 00:34:00,805 --> 00:34:02,868 in getting this issue into the mainstream 733 00:34:02,893 --> 00:34:04,861 and taken seriously than anybody has 734 00:34:04,886 --> 00:34:06,760 in a very, very long time if ever. 735 00:34:07,254 --> 00:34:10,627 There's a growing awareness in Congress about this 736 00:34:11,309 --> 00:34:15,034 but I don't anticipate that any time soon 737 00:34:15,059 --> 00:34:18,145 we're gonna have UFO hearings on Capitol Hill. 738 00:34:24,243 --> 00:34:27,038 It really goes against my DNA to have gone, 739 00:34:27,063 --> 00:34:28,898 quote, unquote "public" with this. 740 00:34:29,202 --> 00:34:30,578 Do I think it was a right decision, 741 00:34:30,603 --> 00:34:31,922 it think it was the only decision 742 00:34:32,134 --> 00:34:36,446 because otherwise we'd still be where we were 743 00:34:37,141 --> 00:34:37,766 a year ago 744 00:34:39,016 --> 00:34:40,055 which is nowhere. 745 00:34:41,391 --> 00:34:42,641 Something unexplained is happening 746 00:34:42,666 --> 00:34:44,266 in the skies above the United States 747 00:34:44,291 --> 00:34:46,814 even the U.S. Navy isn't certain what is going on. 748 00:34:46,947 --> 00:34:49,743 In April 2019, the U.S. Navy 749 00:34:49,768 --> 00:34:51,048 made an unprecedented announcement, 750 00:34:51,490 --> 00:34:53,150 it's creating a new protocol for pilots 751 00:34:53,175 --> 00:34:54,724 to report UFO sightings. 752 00:34:55,531 --> 00:34:58,568 For Chris Mellon, the announcement is a major victory. 753 00:34:59,434 --> 00:35:01,295 Chris Mellon is a former Pentagon official. 754 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,774 Chris, thanks very much for coming on. 755 00:35:03,035 --> 00:35:05,063 Thank you Tucker, it's an extraordinary turn around 756 00:35:05,088 --> 00:35:07,580 and it's really the result of an interaction 757 00:35:07,605 --> 00:35:09,845 between Congress and the Navy 758 00:35:10,064 --> 00:35:15,219 and the fact that this has gotten on Congress's radar 759 00:35:15,244 --> 00:35:18,101 began some discussions which elevated an issue 760 00:35:18,126 --> 00:35:20,439 that before this time had been smothered 761 00:35:20,464 --> 00:35:22,587 and kept at low levels of the bureaucracy. 762 00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:26,620 This is probably single handedly one 763 00:35:26,645 --> 00:35:28,597 of the greatest things that the Navy could do 764 00:35:28,846 --> 00:35:29,691 for this country. 765 00:35:30,608 --> 00:35:32,670 For Lou Elizondo, the new Navy policy 766 00:35:32,975 --> 00:35:34,944 is confirmation of everything he's worked for 767 00:35:34,969 --> 00:35:35,826 over the past year. 768 00:35:36,696 --> 00:35:39,554 It's also an admission the UFO phenomenon is real 769 00:35:39,677 --> 00:35:40,828 and needs to be studied. 770 00:35:40,924 --> 00:35:42,352 They're writing policy that, 771 00:35:42,377 --> 00:35:44,293 rather than keeping people quiet 772 00:35:44,318 --> 00:35:46,514 will encourage people to come forward. 773 00:35:46,975 --> 00:35:48,787 Keep in mind that the topic of UAP's 774 00:35:49,412 --> 00:35:51,389 just a year and a half ago, people were snickering 775 00:35:51,414 --> 00:35:53,117 and laughing, right, that was relegated 776 00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:56,749 to B Hollywood movies and to TV shows 777 00:35:56,774 --> 00:35:58,728 and now people are having a real conversation. 778 00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:02,437 The Navy's new UFO policy 779 00:36:02,554 --> 00:36:04,897 was first reported by Politico's Brian Bender. 780 00:36:07,108 --> 00:36:09,163 Lue Elizondo, Chris Mellon and others 781 00:36:09,389 --> 00:36:12,170 have come forward to try and get the Pentagon leadership 782 00:36:12,195 --> 00:36:13,670 to do more about this, 783 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:16,885 to apply real resources to try and figure out, 784 00:36:17,361 --> 00:36:19,696 is it real, is it an adversary, is it something else? 785 00:36:20,493 --> 00:36:22,954 Where that will lead I think remains to be seen. 786 00:36:35,703 --> 00:36:37,282 Hello there. Howdy, Jess, how are you? 787 00:36:37,884 --> 00:36:39,697 Hate to break up the party. 788 00:36:40,491 --> 00:36:41,776 But Tom I normally wouldn't do this 789 00:36:41,801 --> 00:36:43,775 but if you got a couple of minutes I need 790 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,698 to give you a quick update on a recent development. 791 00:36:45,723 --> 00:36:46,237 Let's do it. 792 00:36:46,456 --> 00:36:49,995 So, Tom this just hit the wire, 793 00:36:50,020 --> 00:36:51,612 this is a Politico article, 794 00:36:52,283 --> 00:36:54,996 the title is U.S. Navy Drafting New Guidelines 795 00:36:55,021 --> 00:36:56,665 for Reporting UFO's. 796 00:36:59,382 --> 00:37:00,405 Can you read the subtitle? 797 00:37:00,703 --> 00:37:01,421 That's insane. 798 00:37:02,569 --> 00:37:04,271 The fact that they're coming out now 799 00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:06,443 and they're saying that this is real 800 00:37:06,636 --> 00:37:09,556 and there's incursions over our sensitive sites, 801 00:37:09,696 --> 00:37:11,721 we're putting together a national security policy 802 00:37:11,746 --> 00:37:12,512 to track them, 803 00:37:12,537 --> 00:37:15,254 it's like insane to me. That's to report them. So you're absolutely right. 804 00:37:15,279 --> 00:37:16,949 I think you can break it down to three things. 805 00:37:16,988 --> 00:37:18,559 My heart's beating fast insane to me. 806 00:37:18,842 --> 00:37:19,678 It's crazy. 807 00:37:19,703 --> 00:37:20,826 I'm pretty energized. 808 00:37:20,972 --> 00:37:23,225 There's three pieces to this article that I find 809 00:37:23,382 --> 00:37:25,984 most captivating, A: that the Navy is taking this seriously, 810 00:37:26,009 --> 00:37:28,647 B: it's establishing an official reporting mechanism 811 00:37:28,672 --> 00:37:32,140 and C:, that they have been talking with members of Congress 812 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:33,460 and their staff. 813 00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:35,805 And that only vindicates a lot of the hard work 814 00:37:35,830 --> 00:37:37,453 that's been going on behind the scenes 815 00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:39,987 but also I think it's a testament 816 00:37:40,012 --> 00:37:41,087 to the brave men and women 817 00:37:41,112 --> 00:37:44,165 in the U.S. Navy who want to figure out 818 00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:45,471 what these things are. 819 00:37:45,496 --> 00:37:47,190 I mean, Tom, this has been the culmination 820 00:37:47,215 --> 00:37:49,847 of all my personally, all my effort, 821 00:37:49,872 --> 00:37:51,879 you know I never did this for fame 822 00:37:51,904 --> 00:37:53,699 or status or damn sure not a paycheck, 823 00:37:54,193 --> 00:37:55,794 I'm doing this because I was trying 824 00:37:55,819 --> 00:37:57,426 to fix a broken system, right 825 00:37:57,568 --> 00:38:00,060 and as I've told people before the only thing I managed 826 00:38:00,085 --> 00:38:03,047 to accomplish in my entire new career moving forward 827 00:38:03,072 --> 00:38:05,898 is getting a reporting mechanism established 828 00:38:05,923 --> 00:38:08,759 so people can report these things without fear of any type 829 00:38:08,784 --> 00:38:11,423 of retribution or any type of consequences professionally, 830 00:38:12,103 --> 00:38:13,376 losing their security clearance 831 00:38:13,401 --> 00:38:16,025 or losing their flight status, right, all the things that 832 00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:18,799 were bottle necking me before, 833 00:38:19,029 --> 00:38:20,115 from having reports come out. 834 00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:22,817 That is the only thing I ever truly what, 835 00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:24,474 that was mission success for me 836 00:38:24,499 --> 00:38:26,701 and here we are literally a year and a half later 837 00:38:27,301 --> 00:38:29,717 of you coming on stage and telling the world you're going 838 00:38:29,742 --> 00:38:31,770 to do this, it happened. 839 00:38:31,795 --> 00:38:34,683 It's absolutely wild, exciting stuff. 840 00:38:34,683 --> 00:38:35,630 Hey man, hug. 841 00:38:38,021 --> 00:38:39,942 An Air Force interest in this problem 842 00:38:40,769 --> 00:38:43,286 has been due to our feeling of an obligation 843 00:38:43,311 --> 00:38:47,903 to identify and analyze to the best of our ability 844 00:38:47,928 --> 00:38:51,740 anything in the air that may have the possibility 845 00:38:51,873 --> 00:38:54,287 of threats or menace to the United States. 846 00:38:55,529 --> 00:38:57,346 At this point, these things are coming up close 847 00:38:57,371 --> 00:38:58,075 and personal. 848 00:38:58,799 --> 00:39:00,427 We are being forced to address it. 849 00:39:01,017 --> 00:39:03,708 We don't have the luxury to sit back anymore as a country 850 00:39:03,733 --> 00:39:05,399 and say, oh let's not pay attention to that, 851 00:39:05,424 --> 00:39:06,688 we have to pay attention to it. 852 00:39:07,453 --> 00:39:10,009 Because now it appears to be stalking 853 00:39:10,439 --> 00:39:11,900 some of our duty assets. 854 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,900 At base, these are reports from pilots, 855 00:39:18,141 --> 00:39:20,362 from military pilots in the Navy today 856 00:39:21,015 --> 00:39:24,976 or very recently in the Navy that have seen these phenomenon 857 00:39:25,001 --> 00:39:25,797 and reported them. 858 00:39:26,509 --> 00:39:28,173 I was a witness to something, 859 00:39:28,307 --> 00:39:32,705 it's something that I happened to encounter, 860 00:39:33,022 --> 00:39:33,959 I don't know what it was. 861 00:39:34,134 --> 00:39:35,741 People ask me, what do you think it was? 862 00:39:36,064 --> 00:39:37,639 Do you think it was of this earth, 863 00:39:37,664 --> 00:39:39,126 do you think it was the aliens? 864 00:39:43,471 --> 00:39:45,526 If these things are out there we know they're out there 865 00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:47,331 there's enough credible that says there's things 866 00:39:47,356 --> 00:39:48,300 that we don't understand. 867 00:39:48,634 --> 00:39:52,329 I can tell you that the other people that were involved 868 00:39:52,595 --> 00:39:53,595 all feel the same way. 869 00:39:54,014 --> 00:39:56,290 Not everyone is talking, some of them are still 870 00:39:56,315 --> 00:40:01,458 on active duty but we all would love to know 871 00:40:01,731 --> 00:40:03,981 what it is, I mean, I wanna know, I would love to fly it. 872 00:40:07,419 --> 00:40:08,973 What a hell is that thing? 873 00:40:09,754 --> 00:40:12,840 This is the story of the millennia, 874 00:40:13,137 --> 00:40:14,879 this is changing the world stuff. 875 00:40:15,412 --> 00:40:19,662 This really is in my heart like I am a part of something, 876 00:40:20,057 --> 00:40:23,166 I created something that has an opportunity 877 00:40:24,241 --> 00:40:26,565 to change the world and I really feel that, 878 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:28,059 that is why I'm doing this. 879 00:40:28,463 --> 00:40:30,840 For the first time in the history of our country 880 00:40:31,173 --> 00:40:32,736 and in the history of this subject 881 00:40:33,284 --> 00:40:35,987 the stigma and the taboo nature about it 882 00:40:36,729 --> 00:40:38,847 just got shattered to a thousand pieces in the wind. 883 00:40:49,401 --> 00:40:51,861 We have an intelligence collection apparatus 884 00:40:51,886 --> 00:40:57,065 that is global in nature and exquisite from 22,500 miles 885 00:40:57,090 --> 00:41:01,394 above the earth's surface to virtually the deepest levels 886 00:41:01,419 --> 00:41:04,672 of the ocean that may already have answers 887 00:41:04,697 --> 00:41:06,458 to many of the questions that we have. 888 00:41:07,103 --> 00:41:10,153 My hope is that members of Congress 889 00:41:10,387 --> 00:41:13,011 will simply ask the right questions. 890 00:41:13,449 --> 00:41:17,003 They have an opportunity when this information is provided 891 00:41:17,028 --> 00:41:19,605 to them to respond to it and act on it. 892 00:41:25,165 --> 00:41:27,218 I occasionally think how quickly 893 00:41:27,243 --> 00:41:29,446 our differences worldwide 894 00:41:30,085 --> 00:41:33,249 would vanish if we were facing an alien threat 895 00:41:33,788 --> 00:41:35,122 from outside this world. 896 00:41:37,075 --> 00:41:39,285 The day will come when this occurs to you 897 00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:41,582 that it's real, that's there's some other intelligence here. 898 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,081 That it's far more advanced than us. 899 00:41:44,535 --> 00:41:46,506 That it could do whatever it wants to us 900 00:41:46,506 --> 00:41:47,995 and we'd be powerless against it. 901 00:42:02,799 --> 00:42:04,877 At the end of the day I don't care if you believe it, 902 00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:06,450 I know what I've seen. 903 00:42:07,473 --> 00:42:09,531 This stands as a reminder for everything that we do 904 00:42:09,556 --> 00:42:13,249 and how important it is, the job of every man and woman 905 00:42:13,274 --> 00:42:16,391 and civilian, sailor, soldier, airman in the military. 906 00:42:16,713 --> 00:42:19,126 We do what we do because of this 907 00:42:20,028 --> 00:42:23,246 and this is a reminder of that sacrifice. 908 00:42:25,450 --> 00:42:28,966 I'm extremely optimistic that in a very short period 909 00:42:28,991 --> 00:42:31,567 of time, we're gonna finally have answers 910 00:42:31,791 --> 00:42:34,491 and resolution to some long standing questions. 911 00:42:36,375 --> 00:42:40,914 We have access to people, to efforts like never before, 912 00:42:42,747 --> 00:42:44,332 to places we could never go before, 913 00:42:46,091 --> 00:42:47,856 maybe we could even build some things. 914 00:42:49,538 --> 00:42:51,717 I think we're gonna have new events 915 00:42:51,971 --> 00:42:54,104 that America has never been made aware of. 916 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,902 We're gonna build this case so airtight 917 00:42:57,809 --> 00:43:01,239 that not only is it a beyond reasonable doubt situation, 918 00:43:02,339 --> 00:43:03,793 it will be irrefutable. 919 00:43:07,461 --> 00:43:09,085 I think we're upon a precipice. 920 00:43:11,032 --> 00:43:12,784 I think the time has finally come. 921 00:43:16,461 --> 00:43:17,819 One last question: 922 00:43:17,819 --> 00:43:20,242 do you think the public can handle the truth? 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