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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,007 --> 00:00:02,820 UFOs with extraordinary capabilities are present in our skies, 2 00:00:02,845 --> 00:00:05,601 according to a team of former US Government insiders. 3 00:00:05,626 --> 00:00:08,754 This program features military eyewitnesses 4 00:00:08,779 --> 00:00:11,571 describing these unidentified craft for the first time. 5 00:00:14,654 --> 00:00:16,282 In 2017, 6 00:00:16,682 --> 00:00:19,351 this New York Times headline shocked the world. 7 00:00:19,963 --> 00:00:22,338 A clandestine US government program 8 00:00:22,644 --> 00:00:24,838 had been investigating UFOs. 9 00:00:25,816 --> 00:00:27,617 The Pentagon has confirmed the existence 10 00:00:27,617 --> 00:00:30,203 of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program 11 00:00:30,203 --> 00:00:32,823 that studied UFOs, and they released video. 12 00:00:33,623 --> 00:00:35,333 There's a whole fleet of 'em. 13 00:00:35,333 --> 00:00:36,793 My gosh. 14 00:00:37,619 --> 00:00:39,621 For eight years, the secret program 15 00:00:39,621 --> 00:00:42,416 was run by this man, Lue Elizondo. 16 00:00:42,416 --> 00:00:44,584 Time and time again, we were coming up 17 00:00:44,584 --> 00:00:46,086 with these mystery objects, 18 00:00:46,086 --> 00:00:49,590 performing in a way that defies logic. 19 00:00:49,638 --> 00:00:51,810 Frustrated by what he says was a cover up, 20 00:00:51,927 --> 00:00:52,983 Elizondo quit 21 00:00:53,008 --> 00:00:54,276 and joined forces 22 00:00:54,361 --> 00:00:56,512 with an elite group of former government insiders. 23 00:00:57,865 --> 00:00:58,882 We're gonna figure out 24 00:00:58,882 --> 00:01:00,217 how to get to the bottom of it. 25 00:01:00,217 --> 00:01:02,287 Now they have one mission. 26 00:01:02,287 --> 00:01:05,415 To expose what they say is the truth about UFOs. 27 00:01:06,407 --> 00:01:08,625 US airspace is being violated 28 00:01:08,650 --> 00:01:11,304 by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities. 29 00:01:11,579 --> 00:01:13,248 It was raining UFOs. 30 00:01:13,248 --> 00:01:15,318 I put my entire career and future on the line 31 00:01:15,662 --> 00:01:17,597 because I believe in what I believe in. 32 00:01:20,312 --> 00:01:22,874 Carl Sagan once famously said, 33 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:26,211 extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 34 00:01:26,211 --> 00:01:28,046 He was absolutely right. 35 00:01:28,282 --> 00:01:29,932 But now we have the proof. 36 00:01:48,929 --> 00:01:52,739 Lue Elizondo is on his way to interview a key eyewitness 37 00:01:52,739 --> 00:01:55,742 to one of the most stunning UFO events in recent history. 38 00:01:55,742 --> 00:01:58,102 We're trying to build a case here for the jury 39 00:01:58,102 --> 00:02:00,379 and so when you're building a case for the jury, 40 00:02:00,379 --> 00:02:02,923 there is nothing more compelling than eyewitness testimony. 41 00:02:03,374 --> 00:02:06,211 They were there, and by the way they're trained observers. 42 00:02:06,211 --> 00:02:08,171 These are people who can think critically. 43 00:02:08,171 --> 00:02:10,149 And this particular pilot has never given an interview 44 00:02:10,174 --> 00:02:12,112 about this incident, ever. 45 00:02:13,093 --> 00:02:16,013 In 2004, this Navy fighter pilot 46 00:02:16,013 --> 00:02:17,431 was training for deployment 47 00:02:17,431 --> 00:02:20,061 aboard the USS Nimitz Aircraft Carrier. 48 00:02:20,086 --> 00:02:22,496 Now a high-ranking officer, this is her first 49 00:02:22,521 --> 00:02:25,055 on-camera interview about the incident. 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,905 She wants to keep her identity hidden 51 00:02:27,206 --> 00:02:30,110 due to the sensitivity of what she's about to say. 52 00:02:30,965 --> 00:02:32,972 I wanna make sure that everybody in this room 53 00:02:32,972 --> 00:02:35,100 understands that her identity has to remain protected 54 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,849 at all times, so with that includes when you're writing 55 00:02:37,874 --> 00:02:40,008 notes on email back to executives. 56 00:02:40,033 --> 00:02:41,501 Hey, that was a great interview with. 57 00:02:41,526 --> 00:02:42,408 Don't write that. 58 00:02:42,433 --> 00:02:43,434 Don't put it in there. 59 00:02:43,730 --> 00:02:45,141 Just say the pilot. 60 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:47,066 Wingman pilot will be appropriated... 61 00:02:47,890 --> 00:02:48,990 So, it's the Wingman pilot. 62 00:02:49,377 --> 00:02:51,734 I still have a security clearance so as a result 63 00:02:51,734 --> 00:02:55,871 we will not be discussing anything classified at all during this interview. 64 00:02:55,971 --> 00:02:57,523 In fact if at any time, 65 00:02:57,523 --> 00:02:59,051 anything is discussed that's classified 66 00:02:59,076 --> 00:03:00,927 we will stop the interview right there and then. 67 00:03:00,981 --> 00:03:01,494 Sure. 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,187 Elizondo was still bound by an oath of secrecy, 69 00:03:05,998 --> 00:03:08,011 so he hopes testimony like this 70 00:03:08,036 --> 00:03:11,029 will force the government to acknowledge UFOs are a threat 71 00:03:11,054 --> 00:03:12,991 to national security, and to take action. 72 00:03:13,381 --> 00:03:15,932 Because this issue is such kryptonite 73 00:03:15,957 --> 00:03:18,502 inside the national security establishment, 74 00:03:18,595 --> 00:03:20,721 he needed to figure out a way to do it 75 00:03:20,746 --> 00:03:23,228 so that what he's gathering could be made public. 76 00:03:23,253 --> 00:03:25,895 These are not crazy people that are reporting this stuff. 77 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,240 These are the people that we entrust our security to. 78 00:03:28,796 --> 00:03:30,499 Why don't we just start from the beginning. 79 00:03:30,499 --> 00:03:31,575 We were operating 80 00:03:31,575 --> 00:03:33,027 off the coast of California 81 00:03:33,027 --> 00:03:35,321 in a designated military working area 82 00:03:36,230 --> 00:03:37,957 with our carrier strike group. 83 00:03:40,484 --> 00:03:44,238 We had launched to perform a practice fight 84 00:03:44,238 --> 00:03:45,448 against each other 85 00:03:45,448 --> 00:03:47,647 to rehearse our maneuvers. 86 00:03:48,393 --> 00:03:50,401 On November 14th, 2004, 87 00:03:50,852 --> 00:03:52,838 this pilot took off from the deck of the Nimitz, 88 00:03:53,415 --> 00:03:55,417 as the wingman to a second jet, 89 00:03:55,417 --> 00:03:56,937 flown by her squadron commander. 90 00:04:00,088 --> 00:04:02,341 She soon found herself in the middle 91 00:04:02,341 --> 00:04:05,594 of one of the most significant UFO encounters on record. 92 00:04:05,594 --> 00:04:07,429 It was daylight and-- Oh yeah. 93 00:04:07,429 --> 00:04:08,931 It wasn't in the middle of the night? 94 00:04:08,931 --> 00:04:10,554 Clear blue skies, middle of the day. 95 00:04:12,504 --> 00:04:13,714 Normally fighter pilots 96 00:04:13,837 --> 00:04:15,079 are directed by a radar plane, 97 00:04:15,104 --> 00:04:16,939 known as a hawk eye. 98 00:04:17,322 --> 00:04:19,324 But the two F/A-18 Super Hornets 99 00:04:19,882 --> 00:04:22,618 are suddenly redirected by controllers 100 00:04:22,643 --> 00:04:23,696 on the USS Princeton. 101 00:04:23,696 --> 00:04:24,781 We were interrupted 102 00:04:24,781 --> 00:04:27,200 by a shipborne controller. 103 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,868 Their tone was urgent 104 00:04:28,868 --> 00:04:31,329 and their requests were, 105 00:04:33,393 --> 00:04:34,285 unusual. 106 00:04:34,701 --> 00:04:36,828 This is not an exercise. 107 00:04:37,001 --> 00:04:38,595 This is a real-world intercept. 108 00:04:38,888 --> 00:04:40,274 Didn't have much experience. 109 00:04:40,681 --> 00:04:43,216 I thought maybe it's a drug run or something 110 00:04:43,216 --> 00:04:45,169 coming up the coast of Mexico. 111 00:04:45,169 --> 00:04:46,537 And I thought, wow that'd be cool. 112 00:04:47,337 --> 00:04:49,423 With no information about their target, 113 00:04:49,423 --> 00:04:52,426 as the two jets arrive at the designated location, 114 00:04:52,426 --> 00:04:53,510 they're confused. 115 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:55,512 My heart sank. 116 00:04:55,512 --> 00:04:57,848 There was something in the water. 117 00:04:57,848 --> 00:04:59,683 There was a churning, 118 00:04:59,683 --> 00:05:02,203 and I went from being sort of giddy, excited, 119 00:05:02,303 --> 00:05:05,097 to thinking, oh my God, now we're on-scene commanders 120 00:05:05,097 --> 00:05:07,850 of a wreck, somebody's crashed and, 121 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,478 aircraft is sinking. 122 00:05:11,813 --> 00:05:14,566 And this is when you notice an object. 123 00:05:14,566 --> 00:05:16,276 We were all clamoring 124 00:05:16,276 --> 00:05:17,569 to get on the radio. 125 00:05:17,569 --> 00:05:21,114 Do you see, in the water, 126 00:05:21,139 --> 00:05:22,616 what the ---is that? 127 00:05:23,604 --> 00:05:25,606 A bizarre craft is hovering 128 00:05:25,827 --> 00:05:26,920 over the churning water. 129 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:29,013 What does it look like? 130 00:05:29,038 --> 00:05:30,356 No windows. 131 00:05:30,432 --> 00:05:32,434 No flight surfaces. 132 00:05:32,434 --> 00:05:33,628 So no wings at all? 133 00:05:33,935 --> 00:05:35,181 No wings, no? 134 00:05:36,034 --> 00:05:38,286 Smooth, white. 135 00:05:39,274 --> 00:05:41,517 No intakes, no smoke trail. 136 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:45,970 It looked like a giant Tic Tac. 137 00:05:46,095 --> 00:05:47,145 Give me a rough size. 138 00:05:47,170 --> 00:05:49,090 Maybe 40 feet. Okay, 40 feet, fair enough. 139 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:52,788 Large enough to scare the hell out of me. 140 00:05:53,082 --> 00:05:55,043 It was so unnerving because 141 00:05:55,582 --> 00:05:57,559 it was so unpredictable. 142 00:05:57,584 --> 00:06:00,645 High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. 143 00:06:00,670 --> 00:06:02,468 So you're wondering: "how could I possibly 144 00:06:02,493 --> 00:06:05,761 fight this?" 145 00:06:05,903 --> 00:06:07,698 We have no ordinance onboard, 146 00:06:07,773 --> 00:06:10,514 unless one of us ram this thing, 147 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:13,288 which, the way it was maneuvering would have been impossible, 148 00:06:13,313 --> 00:06:15,143 so I stayed in high cover. 149 00:06:15,833 --> 00:06:17,366 The wingman watched from above 150 00:06:17,699 --> 00:06:20,493 as her commander flies directly at the strange craft. 151 00:06:30,496 --> 00:06:32,690 Now Elizondo is on his way to interview 152 00:06:32,714 --> 00:06:34,466 the other pilot in the air that day. 153 00:06:34,868 --> 00:06:36,044 The wingman's commander. 154 00:06:37,969 --> 00:06:40,406 These are reports from military pilots. 155 00:06:40,806 --> 00:06:43,308 They've been in combat, and this is something 156 00:06:43,308 --> 00:06:45,212 that they cannot explain and 157 00:06:45,259 --> 00:06:46,728 it's shaking them up to the point 158 00:06:46,728 --> 00:06:49,648 that they're willing to risk their professional standing 159 00:06:49,673 --> 00:06:51,399 by coming forward and talking about it. 160 00:06:52,501 --> 00:06:53,559 Brother Dave, how are you? 161 00:06:53,584 --> 00:06:55,238 What's up Brother Lue, how you doin' man? 162 00:06:55,263 --> 00:06:57,162 I'm doin' better than I deserve, how you doin'? 163 00:06:57,395 --> 00:06:58,865 Good, boy you live in a castle, man. 164 00:06:58,890 --> 00:07:00,250 I wouldn't call it a castle. 165 00:07:01,054 --> 00:07:03,239 Retired US Navy commander David Fravor 166 00:07:03,396 --> 00:07:04,880 led the Black Ace's squadron, 167 00:07:04,919 --> 00:07:07,708 flying combat missions over the Middle East and Africa. 168 00:07:08,565 --> 00:07:09,902 He now works in the private sector 169 00:07:10,339 --> 00:07:11,864 as an aeronautics consultant. 170 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:16,895 Commander Fravor is a very rare breed. 171 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,345 He's one of the few folks 172 00:07:18,345 --> 00:07:20,447 that actually run towards danger, not away from it. 173 00:07:20,793 --> 00:07:24,810 Fravor was the wingman's commanding officer that day over the Pacific. 174 00:07:27,604 --> 00:07:29,982 He had that fighter instinct, 175 00:07:29,982 --> 00:07:33,402 so it wasn't surprising his actions on that day. 176 00:07:34,348 --> 00:07:36,622 I really wanted to see what it was. 177 00:07:36,647 --> 00:07:38,482 I mean, if I could have joined right up on it 178 00:07:38,782 --> 00:07:40,318 and got like Blue Angel close, 179 00:07:40,343 --> 00:07:42,374 then I probably would have done that. 180 00:07:42,549 --> 00:07:44,928 As Fravor attempted to get a closer look, 181 00:07:44,953 --> 00:07:46,937 his wingman watched from above. 182 00:07:47,822 --> 00:07:50,353 This object seemed to recognize that 183 00:07:51,129 --> 00:07:55,050 we were there, and went from this very low altitude 184 00:07:55,050 --> 00:08:00,710 to maneuvering in an erratic, very rapid manner. 185 00:08:02,724 --> 00:08:05,349 So hair on the back of my neck is standing up. 186 00:08:05,559 --> 00:08:09,189 I'm thinking I'm gonna be watching a disaster here. 187 00:08:10,845 --> 00:08:13,044 Coming up on Unidentified... 188 00:08:13,356 --> 00:08:14,628 How does the story end? 189 00:08:14,653 --> 00:08:17,128 This rapidly accelerates and it's gone. 190 00:08:17,153 --> 00:08:19,408 The government needed that, discredit this phenomenon, 191 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:23,737 get your government to do what it's supposed to do, and find out what this is. 192 00:08:23,994 --> 00:08:25,048 Wake up. 193 00:08:25,073 --> 00:08:26,650 This is real, wake up. 194 00:08:37,612 --> 00:08:38,978 Most of my questions are gonna 195 00:08:39,003 --> 00:08:40,525 be focused on the five interrogatives. 196 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:42,674 The who, what, when, where, how, and why. 197 00:08:42,699 --> 00:08:45,869 Just like we're doing a terrorism or an espionage investigation. 198 00:08:45,970 --> 00:08:47,707 Lue Elizondo may be the most significant 199 00:08:47,707 --> 00:08:52,253 US official to ever claim the UFO phenomenon is real. 200 00:08:52,253 --> 00:08:55,182 For two decades, he served as a counterintelligence 201 00:08:55,206 --> 00:08:58,134 officer for the Department of Defense. 202 00:08:58,134 --> 00:09:01,387 Lue is in many ways an enigma. 203 00:09:01,387 --> 00:09:04,808 Here is a guy who has spent decades, really, 204 00:09:04,808 --> 00:09:06,226 in the intelligence community. 205 00:09:06,226 --> 00:09:08,478 Whether it was the Taliban or it was Al-Qaeda 206 00:09:08,478 --> 00:09:12,358 or it was ISIS, or it was Guantanamo Bay, he had to deal with all of it. 207 00:09:12,383 --> 00:09:17,109 Lue Elizondo has the most insane career you would ever hear. 208 00:09:17,134 --> 00:09:20,429 He started out in special operations with the US Army, 209 00:09:20,915 --> 00:09:24,086 and then he moved his way up into all these shadow organizations, 210 00:09:24,111 --> 00:09:25,852 doing all these... 211 00:09:25,877 --> 00:09:27,126 all that really secret, 212 00:09:27,548 --> 00:09:29,349 crazy stuff you see in the movies. 213 00:09:29,751 --> 00:09:31,561 And then he ended up becoming the guy 214 00:09:31,585 --> 00:09:33,352 that's in charge of all those programs. 215 00:09:33,445 --> 00:09:34,804 Lue is the rare exception, 216 00:09:34,829 --> 00:09:38,040 who was willing to stick his neck out and take risks 217 00:09:38,402 --> 00:09:41,688 that is not usually rewarded in the bureaucracy. 218 00:09:41,898 --> 00:09:44,969 The strategy that most people adopt is to keep their heads down and 219 00:09:44,994 --> 00:09:48,906 go along, to get along, don't draw attention to yourself. 220 00:09:49,574 --> 00:09:51,128 Keep that pension in mind. 221 00:09:51,277 --> 00:09:53,925 And Lue was the guy who was willing to 222 00:09:54,339 --> 00:09:56,651 really engage and stick his neck out 223 00:09:56,807 --> 00:10:00,400 and try to be a change agent. 224 00:10:00,425 --> 00:10:02,550 And he was handling some very sensitive issues. 225 00:10:02,575 --> 00:10:04,635 And he had the kind of savvy 226 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:09,792 that you need to be successful at that level, because you're really dealing with 227 00:10:09,888 --> 00:10:12,880 areas that are bitter gray areas, oftentimes where there's no clear 228 00:10:12,905 --> 00:10:15,636 authority to get things done. 229 00:10:15,661 --> 00:10:18,672 You have to persuade people, and you've got to be summoned with some character 230 00:10:18,697 --> 00:10:22,547 personality and willingness and ability to engage people. 231 00:10:22,572 --> 00:10:24,911 And Lue had all of those attributes. 232 00:10:25,298 --> 00:10:27,454 Lue is not somebody who 233 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:32,766 you would think would come up with these fanciful stories about UFOs. 234 00:10:33,102 --> 00:10:36,087 But as I got to know him, as I met with him several times over 235 00:10:36,111 --> 00:10:39,480 a couple of months, I came to believe that he was someone who 236 00:10:39,676 --> 00:10:41,161 had come into this issue, 237 00:10:41,409 --> 00:10:42,429 very skeptical, 238 00:10:42,454 --> 00:10:45,072 and came out of it almost a religious believer, 239 00:10:45,096 --> 00:10:47,591 that, wow, this stuff is really happening. 240 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:49,532 These are really credible reports from 241 00:10:49,556 --> 00:10:52,462 pilots, from other people that are not wacky. 242 00:10:52,634 --> 00:10:55,009 And so I think he became a convert, 243 00:10:55,548 --> 00:10:58,203 and not just a convert, but someone who felt that it was his 244 00:10:58,306 --> 00:11:01,924 job to try and get more senior leaders 245 00:11:01,949 --> 00:11:03,527 in the Pentagon, to pay attention to this. 246 00:11:03,552 --> 00:11:04,645 In 2009, 247 00:11:04,769 --> 00:11:06,812 Elizondo took over the $22 million dollar 248 00:11:06,812 --> 00:11:09,857 Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 249 00:11:09,857 --> 00:11:11,066 or AATIP, 250 00:11:11,066 --> 00:11:13,861 that investigated encounters between UFOs 251 00:11:13,861 --> 00:11:15,654 and the US military. 252 00:11:15,654 --> 00:11:17,031 What the hell is that, man? 253 00:11:17,031 --> 00:11:18,073 Look at it fly! 254 00:11:18,261 --> 00:11:19,645 Is this the three reports? 255 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:20,927 Is this five reports? 256 00:11:21,704 --> 00:11:24,121 We were made aware of many, many, 257 00:11:24,121 --> 00:11:25,681 many, many incidents. 258 00:11:25,706 --> 00:11:27,633 It remains a sensitive number. 259 00:11:27,658 --> 00:11:30,946 Those numbers are increasing on a regular routine basis. 260 00:11:30,971 --> 00:11:33,673 Some of these incidents are very, very recent, 261 00:11:33,673 --> 00:11:34,716 and very compelling. 262 00:11:35,885 --> 00:11:39,046 But in 2017, he made the shocking announcement. 263 00:11:39,071 --> 00:11:41,949 He was walking away from a 20-year military career 264 00:11:41,974 --> 00:11:43,057 and going public. 265 00:11:43,735 --> 00:11:47,774 I had tried in vain to work within the silos 266 00:11:47,969 --> 00:11:50,256 of the organization, but I ultimately left 267 00:11:50,281 --> 00:11:51,574 the Department of Defense 268 00:11:52,568 --> 00:11:54,974 because of my loyalty to the department 269 00:11:54,999 --> 00:11:57,406 and to the secretary, not disloyalty. 270 00:11:58,261 --> 00:11:59,325 For the past year, 271 00:11:59,325 --> 00:12:02,425 Unidentified's cameras have had exclusive access 272 00:12:02,450 --> 00:12:03,950 to Elizondo and his new team 273 00:12:04,478 --> 00:12:06,340 as they track down military personnel 274 00:12:06,914 --> 00:12:08,068 willing to go on the record 275 00:12:08,488 --> 00:12:11,434 with their incredible encounters with UFOs. 276 00:12:18,164 --> 00:12:20,420 You are able to provide a play-by-play 277 00:12:20,445 --> 00:12:22,917 of what actually went down those moments 278 00:12:22,942 --> 00:12:25,152 that you were encountering that Tic Tac. 279 00:12:25,177 --> 00:12:25,853 That's correct. 280 00:12:25,853 --> 00:12:27,946 So all that's gonna be hugely important. 281 00:12:28,383 --> 00:12:31,641 He's meeting with one of the Navy's top former figher pilots 282 00:12:31,666 --> 00:12:35,532 who came face-to-face with a Tic Tac shaped UFO in 2004. 283 00:12:40,771 --> 00:12:43,107 Flying a Navy fighter is probably one of the most 284 00:12:43,134 --> 00:12:45,250 spectacular jobs you could ever have in the entire world. 285 00:12:45,544 --> 00:12:48,420 It's like a rollercoaster times 10,000. 286 00:12:49,223 --> 00:12:52,590 And I got to do it in some semblance 287 00:12:52,615 --> 00:12:54,696 of a tactical airplane for 18 years. 288 00:12:57,043 --> 00:12:59,082 On November 14th, 2004, 289 00:12:59,408 --> 00:13:03,054 Commander David Fravor and his wingman pilot took off 290 00:13:03,079 --> 00:13:06,447 from the USS Nimitz, which was on maneuvers south of San Diego. 291 00:13:06,865 --> 00:13:08,481 I was the commanding officer 292 00:13:09,938 --> 00:13:12,978 of strike fighter squadron 41 the Black Aces. 293 00:13:13,152 --> 00:13:15,613 We flying brand new super hornets. 294 00:13:15,613 --> 00:13:17,740 The nuclear powered USS Nimitz 295 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:20,493 was the lead vessel of a carrier strike group 296 00:13:20,493 --> 00:13:23,172 that included the destroyers, USS Higgins and Chafee, 297 00:13:23,306 --> 00:13:25,725 the attack submarine USS Louisville, 298 00:13:25,998 --> 00:13:28,841 and the radar-equipped missile cruiser, USS Princeton. 299 00:13:29,443 --> 00:13:31,638 If you asked any senior military officer, 300 00:13:31,638 --> 00:13:35,458 what is the crown jewel of the American military arsenal? 301 00:13:35,483 --> 00:13:38,311 They would say the aircraft carrier battle group. 302 00:13:38,311 --> 00:13:40,646 If we have to go into combat sometime quickly, 303 00:13:40,671 --> 00:13:42,850 it's likely gonna be a carrier battle group 304 00:13:42,875 --> 00:13:43,984 that's gonna be there first 305 00:13:43,984 --> 00:13:45,577 and it's gonna be in action first. 306 00:13:47,247 --> 00:13:49,029 It was an air defense exercise. 307 00:13:49,506 --> 00:13:51,152 Two good guys against two bad guys. 308 00:13:51,826 --> 00:13:56,330 Probably 70 miles, 60 miles off the coast 309 00:13:56,330 --> 00:13:59,458 in the gap between San Diego and Ensenada. 310 00:13:59,458 --> 00:14:02,294 Suddenly, the pilots are contacted 311 00:14:02,294 --> 00:14:04,130 by radar operators on the Princeton. 312 00:14:05,254 --> 00:14:07,285 The Princeton control comes up and says: 313 00:14:07,489 --> 00:14:08,668 "We're gonna suspend training." 314 00:14:09,058 --> 00:14:10,262 "We have real-world tasking." 315 00:14:10,962 --> 00:14:12,530 The pilots are revectored 316 00:14:12,555 --> 00:14:14,714 to a new destination, but aren't told why. 317 00:14:15,018 --> 00:14:16,727 So we start heading off to the west. 318 00:14:18,111 --> 00:14:19,988 The other plane is on my left hand side. 319 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:22,441 I was the junior pilot 320 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:25,909 trying to keep up with the senior pilot 321 00:14:25,989 --> 00:14:27,614 in the leader aircraft. 322 00:14:28,115 --> 00:14:30,317 We're looking, we don't see anything on our radars at all, 323 00:14:30,342 --> 00:14:31,850 and we're talking to each other 324 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:33,060 trying to figure this out. 325 00:14:33,163 --> 00:14:35,066 The Princeton's AEGIS SPY-1 radar system 326 00:14:35,272 --> 00:14:36,358 is powerful enough to 327 00:14:36,383 --> 00:14:39,281 track an object as small as a baseball, at an altitude of 328 00:14:39,306 --> 00:14:42,117 80,000 feet, but the jets are flying blind. 329 00:14:42,664 --> 00:14:44,506 We're trying to see what was out there, 330 00:14:44,531 --> 00:14:47,075 which is difficult when you know what you're looking for. 331 00:14:47,075 --> 00:14:49,384 It's even harder when 332 00:14:49,409 --> 00:14:50,946 you don't know what you're looking for. 333 00:14:51,931 --> 00:14:53,707 So it goes down, 60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 334 00:14:53,707 --> 00:14:55,259 it gets all the way down. 335 00:14:55,741 --> 00:14:58,429 They get to a point where they can't separate us from the blimp. 336 00:14:58,454 --> 00:14:59,828 They call it merge plot, 337 00:14:59,853 --> 00:15:01,335 which means you're in the same space 338 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,781 at whatever you're looking for 339 00:15:02,806 --> 00:15:04,195 and you gotta start looking outside 340 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,813 because the radar can't help you anymore. 341 00:15:06,664 --> 00:15:08,265 Then far below in the water, 342 00:15:08,406 --> 00:15:09,940 they see what looks like a plane crash, 343 00:15:10,249 --> 00:15:11,699 or a submerging submarine. 344 00:15:12,735 --> 00:15:14,764 But the weapons officer in the rear 345 00:15:14,834 --> 00:15:17,084 seat of Fravor's jet spots something else. 346 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:18,936 I hear, hey skipper, do you see, 347 00:15:18,961 --> 00:15:21,983 and when he says that and as he's saying that, 348 00:15:22,404 --> 00:15:23,569 I notice the Tic Tac. 349 00:15:25,415 --> 00:15:27,625 It's white, it has no wings. 350 00:15:27,625 --> 00:15:29,210 It has no rotors. 351 00:15:29,210 --> 00:15:31,754 I go, holy, what is that? 352 00:15:31,754 --> 00:15:33,298 He goes, I don't know. 353 00:15:33,298 --> 00:15:34,632 According to this leaked summary 354 00:15:34,632 --> 00:15:37,089 of the incident, contact was made here 355 00:15:37,465 --> 00:15:38,816 30 miles off the coast. 356 00:15:39,262 --> 00:15:41,848 70 miles south of the US-Mexico border. 357 00:15:42,574 --> 00:15:44,082 At first, the strange craft 358 00:15:44,107 --> 00:15:46,103 stays close to the surface, 359 00:15:46,103 --> 00:15:48,814 moving unlike anything the pilots had ever seen. 360 00:15:48,814 --> 00:15:50,399 This thing would go instantaneous 361 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:51,608 from one way to another, 362 00:15:51,608 --> 00:15:52,987 similar to if you threw 363 00:15:53,012 --> 00:15:54,876 a ping pong ball against a wall. 364 00:15:55,571 --> 00:15:56,905 And we start to kind of orbit 365 00:15:56,905 --> 00:15:58,657 'cause now we're gonna watch this thing. 366 00:15:58,657 --> 00:16:00,451 So we start a right hand turn. 367 00:16:00,451 --> 00:16:02,411 And we're going from a clock code, 368 00:16:02,411 --> 00:16:04,413 the object is in the middle of the clock, 369 00:16:04,413 --> 00:16:05,956 and we're at six o'clock, 370 00:16:05,956 --> 00:16:07,674 and we're driving around in circles. 371 00:16:07,699 --> 00:16:09,370 So we get to about nine o'clock 372 00:16:09,395 --> 00:16:11,562 and it's just still doing its little erratic thing, 373 00:16:11,562 --> 00:16:13,448 kind moving around this disturbance in the water, 374 00:16:13,473 --> 00:16:15,620 and I go, hey, I'm 375 00:16:15,645 --> 00:16:17,152 gonna go check it out. 376 00:16:17,489 --> 00:16:18,499 I'll go down there. 377 00:16:18,579 --> 00:16:20,421 As we're coming down nice and easy, 378 00:16:20,446 --> 00:16:22,085 we get to about the 12 o'clock position, 379 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:24,250 and all of a sudden it goes, verp, and it kinda turns, 380 00:16:24,765 --> 00:16:27,165 and now it's mirroring us and it starts coming up. 381 00:16:27,321 --> 00:16:29,281 Ok. Now it knows we're here. 382 00:16:29,281 --> 00:16:30,658 It seemed to be aware 383 00:16:30,658 --> 00:16:32,804 and it seems to recognize him. 384 00:16:32,890 --> 00:16:34,912 It goes from basically just almost a hover 385 00:16:34,912 --> 00:16:37,498 into a pretty aggressive climb up to our altitude, 386 00:16:37,522 --> 00:16:38,933 so there's a bit of fear 387 00:16:38,957 --> 00:16:41,093 because now you're out there dealing with something 388 00:16:41,117 --> 00:16:42,429 that you have no idea what it is. 389 00:16:42,553 --> 00:16:44,597 It's actually reacting to what we're doing. 390 00:16:49,075 --> 00:16:51,419 I kind pull a nose to where he's gonna be, 391 00:16:51,444 --> 00:16:53,387 and he's coming up, he just rapidly accelerates 392 00:16:53,411 --> 00:16:54,816 beyond anything that I've ever seen, 393 00:16:55,325 --> 00:16:58,670 crosses my nose, and it's gone. 394 00:16:58,946 --> 00:17:01,115 And I'm like, whoa. 395 00:17:01,239 --> 00:17:03,783 The Tic Tac appears to have vanished, 396 00:17:04,516 --> 00:17:06,541 but as the jets streak towards a pre-arranged 397 00:17:06,665 --> 00:17:09,196 rendez-vous location known as the cap point, 398 00:17:09,656 --> 00:17:11,917 the radio channel becomes frantic. 399 00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:13,752 The controller from the Princeton comes up 400 00:17:13,776 --> 00:17:15,379 right as we're doing all this and says, 401 00:17:15,403 --> 00:17:17,172 hey sir you're not gonna believe this. 402 00:17:17,196 --> 00:17:20,629 He goes, but that thing is at your cap point. 403 00:17:21,488 --> 00:17:22,613 According to Fravor, 404 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:25,281 the Tic Tac accelerated from a standing position 405 00:17:25,405 --> 00:17:27,670 and flew approximately 60 miles in under a minute. 406 00:17:27,709 --> 00:17:29,953 As fast as 3,700 miles an hour. 407 00:17:31,771 --> 00:17:34,417 How did the Tic Tac know the pilot's cap point? 408 00:17:34,441 --> 00:17:36,284 And how did it accelerate so quickly? 409 00:17:37,305 --> 00:17:39,259 You got something that could accelerate 410 00:17:39,483 --> 00:17:41,341 and disappear and then show up 60 miles away. 411 00:17:41,465 --> 00:17:43,425 Kind a bit odd a little cause you go whoa, 412 00:17:44,207 --> 00:17:45,161 we don't have that. 413 00:17:45,285 --> 00:17:47,187 I'm talking, we're flying a, 414 00:17:47,287 --> 00:17:49,440 one of the premiere airplanes on the planet. 415 00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:50,599 What was this? 416 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:53,460 There was a capability out there. 417 00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:54,795 Don't know where it's from. 418 00:17:54,795 --> 00:17:56,880 Not saying it's from outer space, 419 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,840 but not saying it's from here, either. 420 00:17:59,833 --> 00:18:02,337 Back on the Nimitz, the pilots tell the rest of 421 00:18:02,361 --> 00:18:04,017 squadron what just happened. 422 00:18:04,041 --> 00:18:05,629 The next crew is getting ready. 423 00:18:05,653 --> 00:18:07,338 So we're talking to them about this 424 00:18:07,363 --> 00:18:09,159 and they're like, you gotta be kidding me. 425 00:18:09,184 --> 00:18:10,214 They took us seriously. 426 00:18:10,239 --> 00:18:12,572 And the WSO, the guy in the backseat said, 427 00:18:12,597 --> 00:18:13,681 I'm gonna go find it. 428 00:18:16,351 --> 00:18:18,802 The next jet to launch 429 00:18:18,827 --> 00:18:21,273 had a targeting pod with an infrared sensor and camera. 430 00:18:23,594 --> 00:18:24,814 It jammed the radar 431 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:26,674 but he got a lock on it 432 00:18:26,699 --> 00:18:28,826 and that's the video that you see. 433 00:18:30,074 --> 00:18:33,244 That doesn't weird you out, I don't know what does. 434 00:18:34,841 --> 00:18:36,810 Coming up on Unidentified. 435 00:18:37,501 --> 00:18:39,075 I have no idea what that thing is. 436 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:40,954 And it's not acting like... 437 00:18:41,290 --> 00:18:42,324 aircraft. 438 00:18:42,349 --> 00:18:44,217 That's not acting like anything I've ever seen. 439 00:18:50,686 --> 00:18:51,734 Hey guys, how're you? 440 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:52,810 Good Lou, how are you? 441 00:18:52,934 --> 00:18:53,866 Good. 442 00:18:53,890 --> 00:18:56,154 Hopefully you can shed some light on a few things. 443 00:18:58,672 --> 00:19:00,857 On November 14th, 2004, 444 00:19:00,981 --> 00:19:03,154 two pilots launch from the USS Nimitz 445 00:19:03,179 --> 00:19:04,640 and intercepted a UFO over the Pacific, 446 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:06,928 south of San Diego. 447 00:19:07,052 --> 00:19:07,984 What does it look like? 448 00:19:08,008 --> 00:19:10,778 No windows, no flight surfaces. 449 00:19:10,802 --> 00:19:14,574 It looked like a giant Tic Tac. 450 00:19:14,598 --> 00:19:16,075 They believe this video, recorded 451 00:19:16,099 --> 00:19:18,013 later that day by a pilot from their squadron, 452 00:19:18,137 --> 00:19:20,216 shows the UFO they saw. 453 00:19:21,772 --> 00:19:24,118 It's one of three Department of Defense UFO videos 454 00:19:24,142 --> 00:19:27,103 Lue Elizondo helped get released to the public. 455 00:19:27,798 --> 00:19:29,415 When the three videos came out, 456 00:19:29,439 --> 00:19:32,668 there was this shock by the world community 457 00:19:32,692 --> 00:19:35,254 that oh my gosh, these are real videos. 458 00:19:35,278 --> 00:19:37,589 This effort that we are embarking on 459 00:19:37,613 --> 00:19:40,158 I think is gonna change the conversation forever. 460 00:19:41,409 --> 00:19:44,407 Now Elizondo is meeting with two leading aviation experts 461 00:19:44,431 --> 00:19:45,557 to analyze the videos, 462 00:19:45,582 --> 00:19:47,119 and see if they can help 463 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:49,138 explain the pilots extraordinary encounters. 464 00:19:51,732 --> 00:19:53,773 What I'd like to do is go through these videos 465 00:19:53,797 --> 00:19:56,985 very carefully and get your thoughts on these. 466 00:19:57,009 --> 00:20:00,280 The providence on these videos is very well established. 467 00:20:00,304 --> 00:20:03,655 They are genuine DOD military videos. 468 00:20:03,779 --> 00:20:05,646 Retired lieutenant colonel Chris Cooke 469 00:20:05,770 --> 00:20:07,370 is a top gun pilot 470 00:20:07,394 --> 00:20:09,229 who spent a career flying the military's 471 00:20:09,229 --> 00:20:11,064 most sophisticated fighter jets. 472 00:20:11,775 --> 00:20:12,960 Ross Aimer flew commercial 473 00:20:12,984 --> 00:20:14,462 aircraft for more than four decades 474 00:20:14,486 --> 00:20:16,380 and works as a consultant 475 00:20:16,404 --> 00:20:18,281 for the National Transportation Safety Board. 476 00:20:19,297 --> 00:20:21,378 It's the first time the three men have spoken. 477 00:20:21,774 --> 00:20:24,172 So the first video I'm gonna show you 478 00:20:24,540 --> 00:20:27,568 this afternoon was taken in the 2004 timeframe. 479 00:20:29,914 --> 00:20:31,970 The first video shows the Tic Tac 480 00:20:31,994 --> 00:20:34,437 shaped object seen by the Nimitz pilots, 481 00:20:34,461 --> 00:20:36,491 captured by an F-18's infrared camera. 482 00:20:36,515 --> 00:20:37,989 If you looked at it out of context 483 00:20:38,013 --> 00:20:39,988 you'd think, oh this is just another UFO video, 484 00:20:40,012 --> 00:20:42,420 but from my perspective he absolutely captured 485 00:20:42,444 --> 00:20:44,598 what we saw earlier in the day. 486 00:20:45,851 --> 00:20:47,746 The grainy 90-second video 487 00:20:47,770 --> 00:20:49,480 shows the Tic Tac flying slowly, 488 00:20:50,867 --> 00:20:52,358 then zipping away at what appears to be 489 00:20:52,382 --> 00:20:53,968 a high rate of speed. 490 00:20:57,305 --> 00:20:58,860 The altitude is 20,000 feet. 491 00:20:59,766 --> 00:21:02,786 We're in the TV mode now so it's visual. 492 00:21:03,129 --> 00:21:05,371 The display's indicators are familiar, 493 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,768 but image on screen is confusing. 494 00:21:08,792 --> 00:21:10,686 It doesn't appear to have any characteristics 495 00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:13,939 of any normal aircraft that I've witnessed flying. 496 00:21:14,968 --> 00:21:17,094 The experts wonder how the craft 497 00:21:17,118 --> 00:21:18,860 is staying airborne without wings. 498 00:21:19,571 --> 00:21:22,106 No flight control surfaces, I don't see that. 499 00:21:22,202 --> 00:21:23,598 Does not look like an aircraft to me. 500 00:21:23,623 --> 00:21:24,731 Yeah. 501 00:21:24,855 --> 00:21:26,314 But in these images of a fighter jet, 502 00:21:26,338 --> 00:21:28,225 also shot with an infrared camera, 503 00:21:28,451 --> 00:21:30,841 the heat from the engine is clearly visible. 504 00:21:30,965 --> 00:21:33,010 Everything we know about propulsion systems 505 00:21:33,034 --> 00:21:35,429 is they create an intense amount of heat, 506 00:21:35,453 --> 00:21:39,578 so if it was a conventional type aircraft, 507 00:21:39,603 --> 00:21:43,038 you would most definitely see some type of Heat. 508 00:21:43,063 --> 00:21:45,036 IR signature plume Signature, yeah. 509 00:21:45,126 --> 00:21:46,786 behind the airplane. 510 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,547 If you wanna defy Earth's gravitational force, 511 00:21:52,571 --> 00:21:57,886 the way to do it is with either a propeller to mechanically displace air. 512 00:21:57,910 --> 00:21:59,528 Jet engine to compress air 513 00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:01,331 and to create an equal, opposite reaction, 514 00:22:01,355 --> 00:22:04,227 or a chemical explosion like a missile or a rocket. 515 00:22:04,251 --> 00:22:06,408 Each one of those has a telltale signature, 516 00:22:06,529 --> 00:22:08,433 yet here are things that are able to 517 00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:11,056 seemingly effortlessly defy Earth's gravitational force 518 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,867 and maneuver in ways 519 00:22:12,891 --> 00:22:14,618 that are complete contrary 520 00:22:14,642 --> 00:22:18,656 to anything that we would presume should be able to fly. 521 00:22:20,020 --> 00:22:21,660 The ability to fly without wings 522 00:22:21,684 --> 00:22:23,763 or an engine is one of five distinct characteristics 523 00:22:23,787 --> 00:22:26,582 Elizondo's Pentagon team discovered. 524 00:22:27,842 --> 00:22:29,401 Calls the observables. 525 00:22:29,719 --> 00:22:33,340 He considers them the program's breakthrough discovery. 526 00:22:33,364 --> 00:22:35,008 Anti-gravity, 527 00:22:35,032 --> 00:22:36,259 the ability to fly 528 00:22:36,283 --> 00:22:38,692 without apparent means of propulsion, or lift. 529 00:22:39,243 --> 00:22:40,911 Instantaneous acceleration, 530 00:22:41,134 --> 00:22:43,335 the ability to reach a high rate of speed 531 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,018 in a short amount of time. 532 00:22:45,649 --> 00:22:47,064 Hypersonic velocity, 533 00:22:47,188 --> 00:22:49,336 speeds over 3,700 miles per hour. 534 00:22:49,766 --> 00:22:51,466 Five times the speed of sound. 535 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:53,136 Low observability, 536 00:22:53,260 --> 00:22:56,304 a capacity to cloak or conceal. 537 00:22:56,972 --> 00:22:58,923 Trans-medium travel, 538 00:22:59,966 --> 00:23:02,507 the ability to move through space, air, and water. 539 00:23:03,170 --> 00:23:06,653 Any one of these, mind you, would be an absolute 540 00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:09,424 strategic game changer for any foreign adversary to have. 541 00:23:10,235 --> 00:23:13,761 And yet, here we have things doing all five. 542 00:23:15,975 --> 00:23:18,802 Nobody that I know is aware of 543 00:23:18,826 --> 00:23:20,660 some break though that we've made in technology 544 00:23:20,685 --> 00:23:25,662 that could allow aircraft to do what these reportedly are doing. 545 00:23:25,686 --> 00:23:27,979 Bryan Bender is one of the reporters 546 00:23:28,003 --> 00:23:31,066 who broke the story of the Pentagon's secret UFO program. 547 00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:33,744 These aircraft seem to defy all of the known 548 00:23:33,868 --> 00:23:36,287 aerodynamic properties that we're familiar with. 549 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:39,509 So, let's let the film keep rolling. 550 00:23:39,533 --> 00:23:41,678 The object the Navy pilot is tracking 551 00:23:41,702 --> 00:23:43,867 suddenly seems to get bigger. 552 00:23:44,963 --> 00:23:46,267 So what just happened there, 553 00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:47,586 what's he doing? 554 00:23:47,710 --> 00:23:48,764 He's changing the zoom. 555 00:23:49,376 --> 00:23:51,962 The object then appears to accelerate rapidly, 556 00:23:51,962 --> 00:23:53,413 disappearing off screen. 557 00:23:53,985 --> 00:23:57,634 That's a significant rate of acceleration 558 00:23:57,634 --> 00:24:01,138 in a horizontal plane off to the left. 559 00:24:01,756 --> 00:24:03,232 That's very fast. 560 00:24:04,275 --> 00:24:05,735 The object appears to perform 561 00:24:05,735 --> 00:24:07,999 a similar maneuver to what the pilots witnessed. 562 00:24:09,345 --> 00:24:11,177 We're all amazed at how fast this thing just 563 00:24:11,201 --> 00:24:12,870 took off and disappeared. 564 00:24:12,894 --> 00:24:14,678 Instantaneous acceleration at this rate 565 00:24:14,702 --> 00:24:16,680 would produce a force of gravity 566 00:24:16,704 --> 00:24:20,166 or g-force so extreme it would crush a human being. 567 00:24:21,271 --> 00:24:22,972 I have no idea what that thing is. 568 00:24:22,996 --> 00:24:25,024 It is not acting like a-- 569 00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:26,858 Aircraft. 570 00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:28,496 It's not acting like anything I've ever seen. 571 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,434 Yeah. 572 00:24:29,818 --> 00:24:33,051 If there are vehicles out there, 573 00:24:33,075 --> 00:24:34,616 aircraft that are doing things aerodynamically 574 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,952 that we've never even thought of, 575 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:39,476 then I think we potentially could have 576 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:42,060 real trouble down the road. 577 00:24:49,098 --> 00:24:51,259 There was another F-18 that was flying 578 00:24:51,283 --> 00:24:54,051 with Commander David Fravor that day and for the first time 579 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:59,978 frankly ever, we were able to talk to that individual. 580 00:25:00,435 --> 00:25:02,479 There was some frustration and frankly 581 00:25:02,503 --> 00:25:04,231 there was a little bit of fear. 582 00:25:04,255 --> 00:25:06,233 Lue Elizondo is briefing his team 583 00:25:06,257 --> 00:25:07,904 on new information he's learned 584 00:25:07,928 --> 00:25:09,944 about the USS Nimitz incident. 585 00:25:10,485 --> 00:25:11,989 This elite group of former government insiders 586 00:25:12,013 --> 00:25:14,425 was formed in 2017. 587 00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:17,103 Bound by their conviction, 588 00:25:17,103 --> 00:25:19,257 that the craft in these videos must be investigated. 589 00:25:19,845 --> 00:25:21,416 We can make a difference and do things 590 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,627 because we have the connections and the network 591 00:25:23,651 --> 00:25:26,254 and if we can continue to establish credibility 592 00:25:26,278 --> 00:25:28,590 with people on the hill and the executive branch 593 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:31,222 we might be able to take this the next step. 594 00:25:31,246 --> 00:25:32,636 Chris Mellon served as 595 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:36,264 Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. 596 00:25:36,288 --> 00:25:39,267 Steve Justice was a top aviation engineer 597 00:25:39,291 --> 00:25:41,979 at Lockheed Martin's legendary Skunk Works. 598 00:25:42,003 --> 00:25:45,398 Al Puthoff was a scientist for the CIA. 599 00:25:45,992 --> 00:25:48,694 If you were trying to come up with the A-team 600 00:25:48,718 --> 00:25:51,197 of former high-level government officials 601 00:25:51,221 --> 00:25:54,117 who would come forward on this issue, 602 00:25:54,141 --> 00:25:56,119 you can't really think of a better team. 603 00:25:56,143 --> 00:25:58,287 Lu Elizondo, Chris Mellon, these are guys 604 00:25:58,311 --> 00:26:00,179 who still have security clearances, 605 00:26:00,203 --> 00:26:01,958 still have networks in Washington, 606 00:26:01,982 --> 00:26:04,377 still are in the business if you will. 607 00:26:04,401 --> 00:26:06,963 Chris Mellon who's put his entire family's reputation 608 00:26:06,987 --> 00:26:08,548 on the line to do this. 609 00:26:08,572 --> 00:26:10,104 Steve Justice left a very 610 00:26:10,128 --> 00:26:13,179 lucrative job at Lockheed's Skunk Works to do this. 611 00:26:13,727 --> 00:26:15,513 But by far the most unlikely member 612 00:26:15,537 --> 00:26:17,557 of Elizondo's new team is the man 613 00:26:17,581 --> 00:26:19,683 who brought them all together. 614 00:26:20,193 --> 00:26:21,687 The last show I played 615 00:26:21,711 --> 00:26:23,147 was in front of 100,000 people. 616 00:26:23,171 --> 00:26:25,357 The lights and the pyrotechnics and all that stuff 617 00:26:25,381 --> 00:26:27,451 was going off right behind me 618 00:26:27,475 --> 00:26:30,528 and then they wonder why I'm not doing that now. 619 00:26:31,704 --> 00:26:33,617 So back it up, introduce yourself. 620 00:26:33,668 --> 00:26:34,883 Yeah, 621 00:26:36,605 --> 00:26:38,478 My name is Tom Delonge 622 00:26:38,502 --> 00:26:40,321 a lot of people know me for my band Blink-182, 623 00:26:40,383 --> 00:26:42,668 I started that band when I was 16 624 00:26:43,425 --> 00:26:47,005 but I got to that point where my daughter was two years old 625 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:49,424 and I was gone for two years straight 626 00:26:49,448 --> 00:26:52,175 and I really really needed a break. 627 00:26:52,929 --> 00:26:56,322 The only other thing I was ever interested in was UFOs. 628 00:26:56,346 --> 00:26:59,862 I was so fascinated with this topic, specifically, because 629 00:27:00,611 --> 00:27:04,588 I think it was like an escape from growing up in a broken family in suburbia, 630 00:27:04,822 --> 00:27:07,243 the idea of who we are 631 00:27:07,745 --> 00:27:11,215 and how we see ourselves and where we're going and where we're from, and 632 00:27:11,239 --> 00:27:12,609 what this is all about. 633 00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:15,135 That all seemed to be wrapped up in this idea of 634 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,678 unidentified flying objects. 635 00:27:18,851 --> 00:27:20,217 And a lot of people would ask.. why? 636 00:27:20,241 --> 00:27:24,553 I said, well, you know, you're dealing with a subject that has science, 637 00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:29,325 that has religion, and it has government secrecy and national 638 00:27:29,349 --> 00:27:31,494 security, and it has 639 00:27:31,518 --> 00:27:34,556 physics and consciousness, there's like, there's like a never ending 640 00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:36,924 rabbit hole in any one of those things. 641 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:39,000 Delonge walked away from stardom 642 00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:41,169 and dedicated himself to disclosing 643 00:27:41,193 --> 00:27:44,018 what he believes is the truth about UFOs. 644 00:27:44,042 --> 00:27:46,385 I needed to get in the government 645 00:27:46,409 --> 00:27:49,594 and I needed to find the people that deal with this subject 646 00:27:49,618 --> 00:27:52,013 and let them know what I'm thinking of doing. 647 00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:54,432 Delonge says he was able to secure a meeting 648 00:27:54,456 --> 00:27:56,851 with a high-level Aerospace Executive 649 00:27:56,875 --> 00:27:58,978 with deep connections to the military. 650 00:27:59,002 --> 00:28:01,272 All of a sudden out of nowhere I had an opening 651 00:28:01,296 --> 00:28:05,026 and I just go, I am not naive to the subject, 652 00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:07,612 I understand the national security implications 653 00:28:07,636 --> 00:28:10,115 of this subject but I am asking for your help 654 00:28:10,139 --> 00:28:11,616 because I need guidance. 655 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,185 I just need somebody to help me and give me advice 656 00:28:15,185 --> 00:28:17,521 and he leans back and he goes, "okay". 657 00:28:17,647 --> 00:28:20,370 That's when my life changed completely. 658 00:28:20,993 --> 00:28:23,474 Soon Delonge was covertly communicating 659 00:28:23,498 --> 00:28:26,255 with powerful people including General William McCasland, 660 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:28,034 the former head of a billion-dollar 661 00:28:28,058 --> 00:28:29,826 Air Force research lab 662 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:33,114 and John Podesta, the former presidential advisor 663 00:28:33,138 --> 00:28:35,158 who once said his biggest regret in the White House 664 00:28:35,434 --> 00:28:37,820 was not releasing the government's UFO files. 665 00:28:38,472 --> 00:28:40,514 Tom called me out of the blue, sort of, 666 00:28:40,538 --> 00:28:42,766 "who is this fellow and why is he calling me" 667 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:44,768 and we began to chat and I began to chat 668 00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:47,354 with some of the other people he was talking to 669 00:28:47,378 --> 00:28:49,064 and he clearly was 670 00:28:49,088 --> 00:28:52,383 establishing a network of people who had serious credentials. 671 00:28:52,844 --> 00:28:56,282 There are people like me who see this as an incredible 672 00:28:56,306 --> 00:29:00,162 mystery and enigma that needs to be resolved. 673 00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:03,568 Delonge says they were all part of an elite group 674 00:29:03,592 --> 00:29:06,795 of high-ranking officials dedicated to UFO disclosure 675 00:29:07,165 --> 00:29:08,966 but they wanted to remain in the shadows. 676 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,295 Do you think there's a way over time 677 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,256 that we can open up some of these discussions, 678 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,049 declassify material? 679 00:29:15,073 --> 00:29:17,502 We ought to be serious about investigating what's going on 680 00:29:17,526 --> 00:29:19,437 Other countries have done that, other countries 681 00:29:19,461 --> 00:29:21,890 have declassified the information they've had. 682 00:29:21,914 --> 00:29:24,006 He's one of the most tenacious individuals I've ever met. 683 00:29:24,031 --> 00:29:26,268 He got to the highest levels of the US government 684 00:29:26,268 --> 00:29:27,419 to include Podesta. 685 00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:29,922 Hello, South LA. 686 00:29:30,446 --> 00:29:32,335 But in October 2016, on the eve 687 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,553 of the heated Presidential Election, 688 00:29:34,674 --> 00:29:36,963 Delonge was thrust into a media storm. 689 00:29:37,181 --> 00:29:38,841 WikiLeaks released more emails. 690 00:29:38,865 --> 00:29:40,718 The result, it appears, of massive hacks 691 00:29:40,742 --> 00:29:42,278 into the National Democratic Committee, 692 00:29:42,302 --> 00:29:44,270 private email account of Clinton Campaign Chair, 693 00:29:44,294 --> 00:29:46,074 John Podesta, and who knows who else. 694 00:29:46,670 --> 00:29:48,827 Delonge's communications with John Podesta 695 00:29:48,851 --> 00:29:51,153 and others were stolen by Russian hackers 696 00:29:51,177 --> 00:29:53,005 and published online by Wikileaks. 697 00:29:56,906 --> 00:30:00,137 The one rule they had is we will help you 698 00:30:01,105 --> 00:30:03,344 but don't go out and tell anybody who we are, 699 00:30:03,573 --> 00:30:05,266 that's the only fucking rule. 700 00:30:05,290 --> 00:30:07,900 Overnight Delonge found himself at the center 701 00:30:07,924 --> 00:30:11,015 of the decades-old debate about UFOs. 702 00:30:12,133 --> 00:30:14,584 I think a lot of people thought that Tom Delonge 703 00:30:14,608 --> 00:30:17,114 was being used, was being used as a tool. 704 00:30:17,138 --> 00:30:20,576 They'll tell him some stuff that's not true and it'll be 705 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,114 a diversion and we'll fool the Russians or fool the Chinese. 706 00:30:23,828 --> 00:30:26,155 George Knapp is an investigative journalist 707 00:30:26,179 --> 00:30:28,447 who has reported extensively about UFOs. 708 00:30:29,474 --> 00:30:31,174 I'm just going to ask you point blank: 709 00:30:31,198 --> 00:30:32,698 Is Tom Delonge being controlled by a 710 00:30:32,722 --> 00:30:34,522 small group of powerful insiders? 711 00:30:35,435 --> 00:30:36,649 No. 712 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,733 No, no I think Tom DeLonge has plotted out his own course. 713 00:30:40,757 --> 00:30:44,807 He's got some really good advisors who are not part of the government. 714 00:30:45,085 --> 00:30:47,022 All of these events that have happened 715 00:30:47,046 --> 00:30:49,155 are because Tom DeLonge used shoe leather, 716 00:30:49,179 --> 00:30:51,506 knocked on doors, made phone calls. 717 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:55,738 What Tom has started in the last year is unprecedented, 718 00:30:55,762 --> 00:30:58,431 I think in the history of the study of this field. 719 00:31:01,511 --> 00:31:03,237 By the fall of 2017, 720 00:31:03,722 --> 00:31:05,086 DeLonge had assembled his team. 721 00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:08,548 Then he learned the head of the 722 00:31:08,573 --> 00:31:10,181 Pentagon secret UFO Program 723 00:31:10,206 --> 00:31:13,976 had resigned in protest and wanted to join forces. 724 00:31:15,516 --> 00:31:18,178 It was Luis Elizondo, he was the guy 725 00:31:18,202 --> 00:31:20,514 that I wasn't supposed to know his name ever. 726 00:31:20,538 --> 00:31:23,381 It was the guy that worked at the office 727 00:31:23,405 --> 00:31:25,559 of the Director of National Intelligence. 728 00:31:25,583 --> 00:31:27,512 And they said, but there's one other thing. 729 00:31:28,032 --> 00:31:30,717 There's the first three videos of UFOs 730 00:31:30,741 --> 00:31:33,886 are going to be declassified 731 00:31:33,910 --> 00:31:36,030 for the first time in US history. 732 00:31:36,054 --> 00:31:37,532 Oh my gosh dude. 733 00:31:37,556 --> 00:31:39,283 Wow, what is that? 734 00:31:39,307 --> 00:31:41,551 Look at it fly. 735 00:31:42,831 --> 00:31:44,932 Coming up on Unidentified. 736 00:31:45,163 --> 00:31:48,599 I was at area 51 talking to some guys there, 737 00:31:48,743 --> 00:31:51,345 and I said, you guys, ever seen anything really strange? 738 00:31:51,369 --> 00:31:54,525 And much to my surprise, these guys said, yeah, we see some really strange 739 00:31:54,649 --> 00:31:57,232 stuff here at night. 740 00:32:00,955 --> 00:32:02,923 Building number one is on fire. 741 00:32:02,947 --> 00:32:05,858 The whole outside of the building there was just a huge explosion. 742 00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:10,305 Chris Mellon understands what it means for America to be under attack. 743 00:32:10,782 --> 00:32:13,491 On 9/11, he was one of the highest ranking officials 744 00:32:13,516 --> 00:32:14,819 inside the Pentagon. 745 00:32:14,844 --> 00:32:17,264 I have lived through and survived intelligence failures 746 00:32:17,288 --> 00:32:18,811 including the attack on the Pentagon. 747 00:32:18,945 --> 00:32:22,418 This was a group of 20 guys with no special skills 748 00:32:22,442 --> 00:32:25,437 or capabilities or technology 749 00:32:25,461 --> 00:32:28,659 and they were able to wreck massive havoc on our country. 750 00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:35,181 To me, what is most interesting about this case, 751 00:32:35,205 --> 00:32:38,143 most pilots don't report these kinds of incidents 752 00:32:38,458 --> 00:32:41,312 and more people are bringing information in case it does 753 00:32:41,336 --> 00:32:43,209 which is a sign that, you know, we're establishing 754 00:32:43,233 --> 00:32:45,992 some credibility and some presence. 755 00:32:46,016 --> 00:32:47,894 Now Mellon's out of government, 756 00:32:47,918 --> 00:32:50,030 part of an elite team of investigators, 757 00:32:50,054 --> 00:32:52,224 raising the alarm about what they see 758 00:32:52,248 --> 00:32:54,534 as another potential aerial threat. 759 00:32:55,226 --> 00:32:57,621 What is really motivating me right now 760 00:32:57,645 --> 00:32:59,397 is the Nimitz case. 761 00:32:59,421 --> 00:33:01,792 We had multiple naval aviators 762 00:33:01,816 --> 00:33:04,569 and what they saw in broad daylight 763 00:33:04,593 --> 00:33:07,905 over an extended period of time was corroborated 764 00:33:07,929 --> 00:33:10,802 by the most sophisticated sensor systems, 765 00:33:10,826 --> 00:33:13,606 air defense systems on earth. 766 00:33:14,868 --> 00:33:17,446 Any reasonable person would have to conclude 767 00:33:17,470 --> 00:33:20,423 defies present understanding of what aircraft 768 00:33:20,448 --> 00:33:23,952 are capable of doing, it was clearly something 769 00:33:23,977 --> 00:33:25,041 beyond the pale. 770 00:33:25,986 --> 00:33:27,470 Chris Mellon's is an innocent character. 771 00:33:27,494 --> 00:33:29,565 He's never been very public, his jobs 772 00:33:29,589 --> 00:33:31,681 have sort of demanded him to work behind the curtain. 773 00:33:32,521 --> 00:33:34,355 Mellon hails from one of America's richest 774 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:35,714 and most powerful families. 775 00:33:36,864 --> 00:33:39,578 The Mellon's made fortunes in oil, aluminum, and banking 776 00:33:39,895 --> 00:33:41,719 and wielded power for generations. 777 00:33:43,236 --> 00:33:45,812 But Chris Mellon found his calling in Intelligence. 778 00:33:46,708 --> 00:33:49,932 Overseeing the budgets for some of America's most secret programs. 779 00:33:50,236 --> 00:33:52,212 I was at the Senate Armed Services Committee 780 00:33:52,236 --> 00:33:54,221 and a report emerged indicating the United States 781 00:33:54,245 --> 00:33:57,083 had lost a nuclear weapon, so they sent me 782 00:33:57,107 --> 00:34:00,239 to try to find out what happened to the missing nuke warhead. 783 00:34:02,057 --> 00:34:04,190 Back when I was a junior person 784 00:34:04,214 --> 00:34:05,548 in the Department of Defense, 785 00:34:05,572 --> 00:34:07,460 we all knew who Christopher Mellon was. 786 00:34:07,484 --> 00:34:09,578 This was a man who had all the secrets. 787 00:34:09,795 --> 00:34:12,809 He is by far one of the most astute and intelligent 788 00:34:12,896 --> 00:34:15,791 individuals I've ever had the privilege to work with. 789 00:34:15,815 --> 00:34:18,392 He is a true legend, a living legend. 790 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:20,810 He was individual that was highly regarded 791 00:34:20,834 --> 00:34:22,854 as being one of the most proficient 792 00:34:22,878 --> 00:34:25,481 and professional individuals in the department. 793 00:34:25,687 --> 00:34:28,093 Chris Mellon has spent decades working 794 00:34:28,117 --> 00:34:30,466 not only in the Department of Defense 795 00:34:30,490 --> 00:34:33,232 but also with the Senate, but at the highest levels. 796 00:34:33,256 --> 00:34:35,150 One of his large accomplishments being putting 797 00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:38,272 together the Joint Special Operations Command Bill, 798 00:34:38,297 --> 00:34:41,058 which is merging all of our special operations 799 00:34:41,083 --> 00:34:42,966 into one division that reports all the way up 800 00:34:42,991 --> 00:34:44,218 to the president. 801 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:46,374 It's a major, major piece of legislation. 802 00:34:46,398 --> 00:34:47,998 He truly is a master strategist 803 00:34:48,022 --> 00:34:49,732 and so understanding how government works 804 00:34:49,756 --> 00:34:51,901 and how the intelligence community works 805 00:34:51,925 --> 00:34:54,737 and how congress works, that takes a level of 806 00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,606 expertise that you don't find everyday. 807 00:34:56,630 --> 00:34:58,983 Chris Mellon was a former staffer 808 00:34:59,007 --> 00:35:01,353 for the Intelligence Committee on Capitol Hill. 809 00:35:01,536 --> 00:35:04,104 He was an intelligence official inside the Pentagon. 810 00:35:04,128 --> 00:35:08,001 In the beginning it was a very opaque sort of process. 811 00:35:08,025 --> 00:35:11,361 In other words, he had something he was working on, 812 00:35:11,361 --> 00:35:13,038 something that was bubbling up 813 00:35:13,063 --> 00:35:15,208 that was going to soon be ready for primetime, 814 00:35:15,232 --> 00:35:16,960 ready to be shared with the public. 815 00:35:16,984 --> 00:35:18,945 Was I interested in talking about it? 816 00:35:18,969 --> 00:35:20,714 And of course I was intrigued 817 00:35:20,738 --> 00:35:22,966 because I cover the Pentagon and anything 818 00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:24,467 from the intelligence world 819 00:35:24,491 --> 00:35:27,414 that may be coming out of the shadows into the light. 820 00:35:29,496 --> 00:35:31,854 I was at Area 51 talking to some guys 821 00:35:31,989 --> 00:35:33,797 there, working in some programmes 822 00:35:33,821 --> 00:35:36,850 and I said, do you guys ever see anything really strange 823 00:35:36,974 --> 00:35:39,954 I was almost embarrassed to even ask about it because of the stigma 824 00:35:39,978 --> 00:35:40,978 surrounding the topic. 825 00:35:41,753 --> 00:35:43,993 and much to my surprise these guys said, 826 00:35:44,017 --> 00:35:46,884 yeah we see some really strange stuff here at night. 827 00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:49,324 The deeper Mellon looked into the controversial 828 00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:51,394 subject the more he began to question 829 00:35:51,418 --> 00:35:53,320 why the government was doing nothing about it. 830 00:35:54,774 --> 00:35:56,968 Here's a guy who presumably would know 831 00:35:56,992 --> 00:35:58,906 or be able to find out 832 00:35:59,219 --> 00:36:00,770 if these sightings were related to some 833 00:36:00,795 --> 00:36:02,513 very restricted military program that 834 00:36:02,538 --> 00:36:04,812 these Nimitz pilots, for example, were not aware of. 835 00:36:04,836 --> 00:36:05,881 And 836 00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:10,279 clearly, Chris doesn't seem to think that these instances were 837 00:36:10,704 --> 00:36:13,101 military aircraft being tested in secret. 838 00:36:13,125 --> 00:36:15,961 He feels so strongly about it that he came out of the shadows 839 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,792 when it's not really in his DNA to do that. 840 00:36:20,586 --> 00:36:22,069 Chris Mellon and Lue Elizondo 841 00:36:22,149 --> 00:36:24,093 weren't the only officials within the government 842 00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:26,458 concerned about a potential threat. 843 00:36:28,052 --> 00:36:30,272 The Pentagon secret UFO unit AATIP was 844 00:36:30,496 --> 00:36:32,679 established by a small group of senators, 845 00:36:33,694 --> 00:36:35,666 including former astronaut John Glenn, 846 00:36:35,690 --> 00:36:37,811 World War II veterans Daniel Inaway and 847 00:36:37,949 --> 00:36:38,949 Ted Stevens. 848 00:36:39,817 --> 00:36:42,019 And former senate majority leader Harry Reed. 849 00:36:42,943 --> 00:36:45,982 It's amazing that an individual 850 00:36:46,716 --> 00:36:49,732 who worked at such a high level for so long 851 00:36:49,756 --> 00:36:52,503 is a majority leader of the United States Senate, 852 00:36:52,527 --> 00:36:55,673 would choose this among all of the myriad of issues 853 00:36:55,797 --> 00:36:58,550 that he engaged on, with all of the challenges 854 00:36:58,574 --> 00:37:00,268 confronting our country today 855 00:37:00,783 --> 00:37:02,689 and this is one that he chooses, 856 00:37:03,013 --> 00:37:05,973 in the twilight of his career, to try to carry forward. 857 00:37:06,436 --> 00:37:08,611 In 2009, Reid sent this letter 858 00:37:08,635 --> 00:37:10,638 to the Deputy Secretary of Defense 859 00:37:10,798 --> 00:37:12,201 arguing America needed to study 860 00:37:12,225 --> 00:37:13,625 the potentially groundbreaking 861 00:37:13,649 --> 00:37:15,797 technology behind these bizarre craft. 862 00:37:16,174 --> 00:37:18,023 Before it got into the hands of our enemies, 863 00:37:19,743 --> 00:37:21,579 Reid requested a small unit 864 00:37:21,603 --> 00:37:23,451 with one of the highest levels of secrecy. 865 00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:25,094 It was the birth of AATIP. 866 00:37:26,375 --> 00:37:28,580 He's making that case and that the strategic implications 867 00:37:28,604 --> 00:37:32,433 are so great that we have to accord it special protection. 868 00:37:33,397 --> 00:37:34,801 This wasn't the first time 869 00:37:34,826 --> 00:37:36,743 the US government studied UFOs. 870 00:37:36,767 --> 00:37:39,943 The Air Force launched Project Blue Book in 1952, 871 00:37:40,503 --> 00:37:43,487 when a rash of UFO sightings put the nation on edge. 872 00:37:44,306 --> 00:37:46,467 This is David Brinkley in the radar room 873 00:37:46,491 --> 00:37:48,785 at Washington National Airport. 874 00:37:49,786 --> 00:37:52,373 On these radar screens last Saturday, 875 00:37:52,397 --> 00:37:55,627 they saw something strange and unusual and at the moment 876 00:37:55,651 --> 00:37:57,812 unexplainable it was not an airplane, 877 00:37:57,836 --> 00:38:00,206 it was not a cloud that nobody knows what it was. 878 00:38:00,404 --> 00:38:02,592 For the next 17 years, the Air Force studied 879 00:38:02,616 --> 00:38:04,863 over 12,000 UFO sightings and found 701 cases 880 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:08,738 that couldn't be explained 881 00:38:09,366 --> 00:38:10,743 but they concluded the incidents 882 00:38:10,767 --> 00:38:12,953 posed no national security threat 883 00:38:12,977 --> 00:38:16,582 and officially shut Project Blue Book down in 1969. 884 00:38:16,606 --> 00:38:18,634 It wasn't lack of compelling information, 885 00:38:18,658 --> 00:38:21,761 it was actually the result of compelling information. 886 00:38:21,785 --> 00:38:24,799 Ultimately they determined that they needed 887 00:38:24,823 --> 00:38:27,944 to tamp down the concern, the public concern, 888 00:38:27,968 --> 00:38:29,767 in part because during the Cold War 889 00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:33,045 this could create some kind of hysteria 890 00:38:33,069 --> 00:38:35,404 and overwhelm our air defense systems. 891 00:38:35,534 --> 00:38:37,804 So, the government behind the scenes 892 00:38:37,828 --> 00:38:40,339 concluded that they needed to discredit this phenomenon. 893 00:38:41,799 --> 00:38:43,627 Mellon claims Project Blue Book 894 00:38:43,651 --> 00:38:45,672 created a stigma around UFOs 895 00:38:45,696 --> 00:38:47,804 that continues to this day inside the military. 896 00:38:48,495 --> 00:38:50,284 I talk to people in the Pentagon who had relayed 897 00:38:50,308 --> 00:38:52,787 that they were concerned it was gonna make 898 00:38:52,811 --> 00:38:55,082 the Defense Intelligence Agency look bad, 899 00:38:55,232 --> 00:38:57,378 they were more concerned about the optics of it. 900 00:38:58,126 --> 00:39:00,244 I wonder if at some point this is gonna go down 901 00:39:00,269 --> 00:39:03,074 as a historical document where people are gonna look back and say, you know 902 00:39:03,099 --> 00:39:04,964 it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, 903 00:39:05,153 --> 00:39:06,457 that was heroic. 904 00:39:12,691 --> 00:39:14,392 I was never formally debriefed 905 00:39:14,721 --> 00:39:18,285 and I wasn't taken seriously, 906 00:39:18,839 --> 00:39:20,119 um, for years. 907 00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:23,500 For over a decade, 908 00:39:23,524 --> 00:39:25,368 the accounts of two Navy fighter pilots 909 00:39:25,392 --> 00:39:27,241 of an encounter with an unidentified craft 910 00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:31,161 South of San Diego were dismissed by the U.S. Navy. 911 00:39:31,590 --> 00:39:32,874 If I had been a single seat pilot 912 00:39:32,898 --> 00:39:35,607 and I had encountered it by myself, 913 00:39:35,718 --> 00:39:37,281 I probably wouldn't have said anything. 914 00:39:37,564 --> 00:39:39,757 I wouldn't want to risk my security clearance, 915 00:39:39,781 --> 00:39:40,963 I wouldn't want to risk 916 00:39:40,987 --> 00:39:43,758 people thinking I was a freak or crazy. 917 00:39:43,782 --> 00:39:45,885 You actually get four people that are eyewitnesses 918 00:39:45,909 --> 00:39:49,221 to the performance of this thing and then nothing gets done. 919 00:39:49,245 --> 00:39:52,165 So the frustration that comes out of that is why? 920 00:39:52,649 --> 00:39:54,519 It was not only ridiculed but then the Intel people 921 00:39:54,543 --> 00:39:57,080 didn't seem to be interested in their story. 922 00:39:57,875 --> 00:39:59,976 It was the worst of both worlds. 923 00:40:01,454 --> 00:40:03,737 For months, Lu Elizondo and former 924 00:40:03,761 --> 00:40:07,009 Assistant Deputy Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon 925 00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,935 had been working behind the scenes 926 00:40:09,959 --> 00:40:12,662 to organize a meeting between the two pilots and members of Congress. 927 00:40:12,786 --> 00:40:14,749 If people see the evidence, they'll understand 928 00:40:14,773 --> 00:40:16,524 and they'll find it compelling. 929 00:40:16,548 --> 00:40:21,507 Sometimes it's only by bringing the information public 930 00:40:21,531 --> 00:40:23,159 and bringing to the attention of Congress 931 00:40:23,183 --> 00:40:25,051 that you get action. 932 00:40:26,738 --> 00:40:28,967 Elizondo is driving across the country 933 00:40:28,991 --> 00:40:32,116 and one of the pilots, retired Navy Commander, David Fravor 934 00:40:32,467 --> 00:40:33,520 calls to tell him 935 00:40:33,544 --> 00:40:36,131 the unprecedented meeting has just taken place. 936 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:39,530 Fantastic and they asked you some hard good questions? 937 00:40:39,554 --> 00:40:41,551 On the record, oh my God, phenomenal. 938 00:40:41,575 --> 00:40:42,928 Fravor tells Elizondo, 939 00:40:42,952 --> 00:40:44,411 that he and his wing man pilot 940 00:40:44,411 --> 00:40:46,580 met in secret with members of congress 941 00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:48,447 responsible for national security. 942 00:40:52,361 --> 00:40:53,938 Holy ---dude. 943 00:40:54,396 --> 00:40:56,388 The Senators don't want their names revealed 944 00:40:56,412 --> 00:40:58,452 because of the sensitivity of the issue. 945 00:40:58,796 --> 00:41:00,430 The press was not informed and the meeting 946 00:41:00,554 --> 00:41:03,306 is not found on any official schedule. 947 00:41:03,306 --> 00:41:05,809 Do you feel positive that it was well received? 948 00:41:07,727 --> 00:41:11,481 Well congratulations, you just made history brother, again. 949 00:41:11,481 --> 00:41:13,900 For the first time in history, the US Senators 950 00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:16,403 will agree for the record on UFOs 951 00:41:16,403 --> 00:41:19,865 affecting US military aircraft and operations. 952 00:41:21,842 --> 00:41:24,471 For Elizondo, this meeting is the first step 953 00:41:24,495 --> 00:41:26,414 in an effort to wake lawmakers up 954 00:41:26,414 --> 00:41:28,666 to a serious threat to national security. 955 00:41:32,395 --> 00:41:34,022 How does this story end? 956 00:41:34,022 --> 00:41:36,191 I have no idea who it was or what it was. 957 00:41:36,191 --> 00:41:38,610 Maybe it's Elon Musk or somebody out there 958 00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:41,112 coming up with some, you know, disruptive technology 959 00:41:41,112 --> 00:41:44,032 that's gonna change our lives like an iPhone. 960 00:41:44,056 --> 00:41:45,728 You know, if you'd show me an iPhone 961 00:41:45,752 --> 00:41:48,179 when I was in high school I would've thought it was vudu magic. 962 00:41:48,978 --> 00:41:50,595 I hope it ends peacefully. 963 00:41:50,619 --> 00:41:54,486 You have to ask yourself, is it ET, or is it Independence Day, you know, 964 00:41:54,958 --> 00:41:56,421 what's the intent? 965 00:41:56,445 --> 00:41:59,197 And right now we don't know. 966 00:42:08,625 --> 00:42:11,169 I promise I will try not to yammer on too long. 967 00:42:11,169 --> 00:42:13,504 I don't think necessarily disclosure as an event, 968 00:42:13,628 --> 00:42:16,972 I think it's a process, and I think that process began. 969 00:42:17,909 --> 00:42:20,195 We trust the American people to know that 970 00:42:20,219 --> 00:42:22,707 there are certain countries that have nuclear warheads 971 00:42:22,731 --> 00:42:24,374 pointed at New York and Los Angeles 972 00:42:24,398 --> 00:42:26,410 that could wipe out millions of people in an instant 973 00:42:26,434 --> 00:42:27,530 and yet 974 00:42:27,554 --> 00:42:29,380 we don't trust American people to know that 975 00:42:29,404 --> 00:42:31,756 there's something in our airspace and we don't know what it is. 976 00:42:32,466 --> 00:42:34,944 There's a lot more I don't know than I do know, 977 00:42:34,968 --> 00:42:35,924 but that's okay. 978 00:42:35,949 --> 00:42:38,109 That's why we have to continue to seek to find the answers, 979 00:42:38,133 --> 00:42:40,625 and collect the data cause ultimately 980 00:42:40,649 --> 00:42:42,928 the data will speak for itself. 981 00:42:43,446 --> 00:42:45,470 I think the public is closer to understanding 982 00:42:45,494 --> 00:42:48,792 the UFO mystery than at any time in my lifetime, 983 00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:52,853 it's astonishing and yeah, it's a little bit scary. 984 00:42:56,140 --> 00:42:57,625 What's worst case scenario? 985 00:42:57,833 --> 00:42:58,836 Have you thought about it? 986 00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:00,637 Well let me tell you, I've thought about it, 987 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:02,773 I'll tell you already, it's too late, cause it's here. 988 00:43:02,797 --> 00:43:04,803 So, we have a choice, we can live with our heads 989 00:43:04,828 --> 00:43:06,839 buried in the sand and hope it goes away 990 00:43:06,864 --> 00:43:09,959 or we can take our head out of the sand and try to figure out how it works 991 00:43:09,984 --> 00:43:12,639 but it doesn't really care what we think in this room because it's here. 992 00:43:16,005 --> 00:43:17,704 This season on Unidentified. 993 00:43:17,728 --> 00:43:20,039 There's a whole fleet of them, my gosh. 994 00:43:20,336 --> 00:43:21,568 Look at that thing, dude. 995 00:43:21,795 --> 00:43:23,224 Never forget those voices. 996 00:43:23,248 --> 00:43:25,192 You know those voices? I know those guys, yeah. 997 00:43:25,216 --> 00:43:27,660 Elizondo's mission to track down more eyewitnesses. 998 00:43:27,684 --> 00:43:29,487 If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, 999 00:43:29,511 --> 00:43:31,896 I don't know if I would've believed it either. 1000 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,421 It was raining UFOs. 1001 00:43:33,421 --> 00:43:35,298 Leads him to reveal a disturbing pattern. 1002 00:43:35,298 --> 00:43:37,050 They disappeared down off the coast. 1003 00:43:37,074 --> 00:43:38,682 I could tell you the lat and long. 1004 00:43:38,706 --> 00:43:40,803 I saw it disappear, suddenly it, 1005 00:43:40,803 --> 00:43:43,440 it moved... like that, fast. 1006 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,142 And to expose an even larger threat. 1007 00:43:45,142 --> 00:43:48,562 These UFOs had an intense interest in anything nuclear. 1008 00:43:48,562 --> 00:43:50,772 What are they and where are they from? 1009 00:43:50,772 --> 00:43:53,150 The beams went down into the weapon storage area 1010 00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:54,943 and I'm thinking, oh my God. 1011 00:43:56,256 --> 00:43:58,567 Now these objects have a global presence. 1012 00:43:59,907 --> 00:44:02,035 Helicopter arrived and they 1013 00:44:02,035 --> 00:44:03,578 requested all the data recording. 1014 00:44:03,578 --> 00:44:06,622 They didn't want the world to know which is scary. 1015 00:44:06,622 --> 00:44:08,833 You don't what else they're covering up. 1016 00:44:08,857 --> 00:44:10,768 Unidentified vehicles are operating 1017 00:44:10,792 --> 00:44:14,040 at will in restricted airspace, just minutes from the nation's capital. 1018 00:44:14,064 --> 00:44:15,357 Thousands of people experience 1019 00:44:15,357 --> 00:44:17,192 unidentified flying objects. 1020 00:44:17,192 --> 00:44:19,027 What the ---is that thing? 1021 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,392 It's time to look into it. 1022 00:44:22,373 --> 00:44:24,935 You can't ignore facts. 75708

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