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- [Narrator] Tonight
on Unidentified.
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- [Woman] What is that?
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- That thing took off as
fast as a tracer round.
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- [Narrator] In 2019,
the skies over the US
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were teeming with
unknown objects.
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- [Cooper] No way,
what the (beep)?
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- [Narrator] More than twice
the number of UFO sightings
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than the year before.
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- Just out of nowhere
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an orange light just kind
of appears in the sky.
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- [Narrator] Were
they extraterrestrial?
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- [Older Camper] Wow.
- [Narrator] Or a hoax?
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- [Woman] What are those?
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- [Woman's Companion]
I have no idea.
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- [Narrator] Now, as millions
point smartphones at the sky.
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- [Cooper] Just started
filming it right up there.
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- [Narrator] Can the
team get to the bottom
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of this historic
surge in sightings?
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- [Cooper] What is that?
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(tense suspenseful music)
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- [Narrator] Everything we
know about UFOs is changing
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thanks to a team led by former
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Pentagon UFO investigator,
Lue Elizando.
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- That is real,
whatever that is.
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- [Narrator] And former top
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intelligence official,
Chris Mellon.
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- This is a current and
continuing phenomenon.
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It's happening, it
continues to happen.
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- [Narrator] They discovered
five unique characteristics
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that UFOs have in common
called the five observables.
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They also released
groundbreaking videos.
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- [Narrator] That forced
the Navy to admit its pilots
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were coming face-to-face
with unidentified objects.
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- [Male Reporter] The US Navy
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made a shocking admission today.
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- [Female Reporter] Strange
flying objects caught on tape
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by their own fighter
pilots are in fact UFOs.
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- [Narrator] Now a new
wave of military witnesses
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is coming out of the shadows.
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- [Obscured Man] I've never
seen anything move like that.
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Shape, size, speeds,
clearly unidentified.
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- [Narrator] The team is
united on a new mission:
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connect the dots to reveal
the truth about UFOs.
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- [Steve] This thing
had no capability
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like anything on Earth.
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- [Narrator] And warn the world
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about the dangers
they might represent.
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- [Hal] Carl Sagan
once famously said,
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"Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary proof."
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He was absolutely right.
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But now we have the proof.
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(tense music)
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- [Female Reporter]
Authorities say they don't know
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what they are, but there
appears to be a growing problem
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of unidentified objects
flying through the sky.
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- [Narrator] All
across America in 2019,
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civilians and military personnel
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were witnessing bizarre craft.
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In Texas, 13 reported
sightings of flying disks.
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In Florida, 27 fireballs.
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40 sightings of floating
triangles over California.
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(shouting)
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- [Man] What the
(beep) is that, homey?
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- [Narrator] But
in North Carolina,
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there were over 50 sightings
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of something else: glowing orbs.
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- [Lue] Well,
howdy there, Shaun.
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Good to see you.
- Oh, yeah, you too, man.
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What a gorgeous day.
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- [Lue] Yes, it's
beautiful, man.
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizando is
meeting with a former Marine,
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who wants to be known
simply as Shawn.
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In his over 10 years
of military service,
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he never saw anything like
what he witnessed one night
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off the Carolina coast.
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- So Shawn, I know a little
bit about your background,
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but do you mind giving
me just a brief picture
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of your life in the military?
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- Yeah, joined the
Marines in '91.
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Became a reconnaissance
Marine in '96.
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It's a Marine that's, or an
observer behind enemy lines,
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surveillance,
information collection.
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- [Narrator] In September 2019,
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Shawn was heading home
after a fishing trip.
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- Coming in, and instead
of going to the boat ramp,
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I just went on in
the Carolina beach,
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kind of tooling around.
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It was a beautiful evening.
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I noticed an orb over my head,
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like not directly over, but
maybe 150 feet in the air,
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kind of following me.
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I was traveling
about five knots.
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I go, "Okay, somebody's
got a drone."
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The first thought.
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I was like, I couldn't hear it
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and obviously my
motor's super quiet,
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so if a drone was
buzzing 150 feet,
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I would be able to hear it.
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It was round, circular
orb, reddish-orange
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and it had a haze
glow around it.
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Wasn't sharp edges at all.
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Man, maybe five
feet in diameter.
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- [Lue] So it had a color to it?
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- [Shawn] Yeah, oh, yeah.
- Orange-ish, red.
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- So I took note of it.
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I'm a reconnaissance
Marine as well,
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so I stopped, looked,
listened, smelled.
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The basic instincts
will follow me forever.
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I felt it was following me.
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I was traveling
about five knots.
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20, 30 seconds.
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- Yeah, that's deliberate.
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- Yeah.
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- And usually, if it's
starting to go
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in front of you or
behind you,
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but you said it
matched your speed?
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- Yeah, that thing
took off faster
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than anything I've ever seen.
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Like it traveled as
fast as a tracer round.
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- [Lue] That fast?
- [Shawn] Yeah.
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- [Lue] Thousands
of feet per second?
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- [Shawn] Yeah.
- Even bullets,
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when they break
the sound barrier,
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they have that crack.
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That miniature sonic boom.
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That's what I wanted to ask you.
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- Absolutely, no sound
at all or thrust.
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- [Lue] Right?
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- Like power thrust
or something.
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- [Lue] Shawn is a
trained observer.
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He's just wired differently.
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He sees this really
weird, strange light.
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The way he described this
object really fell neatly
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within several of
those observables.
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- [Narrator] Elizando
immediately recognizes two
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of the five observables.
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Instantaneous acceleration
and hypersonic velocity.
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- [Lue] Instantaneous
acceleration, because you said
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within the blink of an eye.
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It went from a hover
directly over his boat
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to disappearing
over the horizon.
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And of course,
hypersonic velocity.
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He actually used the
term, "A tracer bullet."
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Just taking off, but
without any type of trail.
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- I didn't think anything
of it until it left.
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The whole question
is what did I see?
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- Is it possible
that these things
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have a very rational
explanation: IE flares?
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- [Shawn] Every flare
I've launched has a trail.
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And it left.
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Flares come, they don't go.
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- You don't expect a
flare to simply hover.
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It falls with gravity
because it abides
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by the laws of physics and
flares don't just take off
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at breakneck speeds in one
direction and disappear.
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- [Narrator] To Elizando,
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Shawn's sighting
is eerily familiar.
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- [Pilot] Hey, got it.
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(laughs)
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- [Narrator] Previously, US
Navy Lieutenant Ryan Graves
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told Elizando he and other
fighter pilots repeatedly
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witnessed orb-like UFOs
off the East Coast in 2015.
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- This is more like I was
looking at a flashlight,
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so just a singular
point of raw energy.
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I'm literally just
seeing a flash,
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a constant flash or
flashlight shine out there.
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- [Narrator] The
biggest connection:
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the orb-like objects were
spotted near the same waters
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where Shawn was fishing.
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- Here we are right off
the coast of the Atlantic
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and in 2015, the US aircraft
carrier Theodore Roosevelt,
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there were several pilots
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who encounter something
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They describe these orbs.
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These little round things
that they couldn't explain.
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- [Narrator] This area
is also home to some
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of the largest military
installations in the US.
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Could these mysterious orbs
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be targeting nearby
military assets?
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- I did think it could be maybe
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some type of foreign
government surveillance.
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- [Narrator] One troubling
theory is that these objects
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could be advanced
Russian drones.
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- If it's a red threat,
that would be enormous.
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If it was someone
operating drones out there,
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that would be enormous, too.
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ship known as the Viktor Leonov
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was patrolling
international waters
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off the east coast of the US,
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both in 2015 and near the
time of Shawn's sighting.
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Could the Leonov have
launched such drones
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or be coordinating with
them to spy on the US?
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- Is that something we
need to be cognizant of?
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If the Russians, let's say,
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develop this new
secret technology,
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that they could launch a
probe over our US cities
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and at the drop of a hat,
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take off at supersonic
speeds without any signature,
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would that be something
you would want to know
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that this technology exists?
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- Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Everybody should understand
what possible threats
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are out there from
foreign governments.
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- [Narrator] Elizondo's
teammate, Chris Mellon,
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is concerned with the
ability of a foreign power
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to penetrate American airspace.
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- We're already on thin
ice in terms of having
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any clear idea of
what these things are,
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where they're from, who's
operating, what their intent is.
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Have we been
technologically leapfrogged?
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Could it be the Russians
or someone else?
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In either case, they
don't seem to be ours
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and that's the alarming,
concerning issue.
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- [Narrator] But can
Russian spy drones
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be the source of the
dozens of mysterious orbs
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reported last year
over the Carolinas?
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Can they account for the
strange videos of objects
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that seem to travel in groups
of two or four or even 14?
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Coming up on Unidentified.
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- At first I thought
maybe it was a helicopter
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because it wasn't moving.
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And then realizing
there was no sound,
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that made it kind of strange.
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Okay, now there are four.
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How that happened?
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I don't know.
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- [Lue] Are these technologies
from a foreign adversary?
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It's certainly possible.
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Are these technologies from
somewhere or someone else?
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Yeah, it's possible.
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(dramatic music)
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sic)
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(digital chirping)
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizando has
just met with a former Marine,
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whose sighting of a reddish orb
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could be a Russian spy drone,
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but his sighting was only
one of over 50 in the state.
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- There's been video and
photographs of these things.
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They seem to be fairly pervasive
here in the local area.
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There's enough
eyewitnesses here,
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both on the civilian side
and the military side,
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that there may be a pattern.
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Now what that pattern is?
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I don't know yet.
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- [Narrator] Now, Elizando's
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on his way to meet Cooper Booth,
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a restaurant worker who also
saw strange reddish orbs
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near Wilmington, North Carolina.
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His were captured on video.
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- [Lue] Nice to see you.
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Thanks for taking the
time to talk with me.
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Appreciate it very much.
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- [Cooper] Yes, sir, absolutely.
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- I came here a few days ago
to see if I can determine
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if there's really something
weird going on here.
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Here I am at this marina and
as serendipity would have it,
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lo and behold someone
says, "Hey, listen.
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"You gotta talk to this guy
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"because you're not
gonna believe this.
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"Literally like just the last
few days he saw something."
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- 10:00, 10:30 on
Saturday night,
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I saw a group of red
orb-looking things in the sky
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and they were in
somewhat a formation.
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An octagon kind of shape.
- Okay.
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It was just solid red orbs
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and I was just like
in awe of what I saw.
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I was like, "Oh,
that was crazy."
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like they were right above
me and that's when I--
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- Really?
- Yeah, it freaked me out.
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It freaked me out completely.
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I had to get something to
show that I did see something.
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- Do you mind if you
share that video?
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May I see it?
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- [Cooper] No, it's on.
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- [Lue] Whoa, yeah, okay.
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(tense music)
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- [Cooper] It shows
red orbs in the sky.
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They're kind of
flickering a little bit
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and it didn't look
like they faded out.
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They just closed in, gone.
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- [Narrator] The objects
appear to be moving
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without any signs of
propulsion or lift.
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It's one of the five observables
Elizando calls antigravity.
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- Would you be okay with
showing me specifically
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where you saw them?
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(tense music)
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- [Cooper] I started seeing
the lights right around,
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once I got past this
little treeline up here.
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I'm just staring at it.
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I wanna drive back and forth.
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Poke my head back
under the things.
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"What is going on?
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"What is that?"
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- This is a young man
who's been working all day
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and just wants to get home.
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These lights in the
sky are so unusual
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that he actually tries
to chase these things
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so he can take a picture so
people would believe him.
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- And I pulled up
right up right here,
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past that mailbox,
hopped out of my car
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and just started filming and
they were right up there.
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No way, what the (beep)?
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So I was sitting right there
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and they were right
up there in the sky.
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(tense music)
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- And we're facing
right now southeast.
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- [Narrator] For Elizando,
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the fact the orbs were seen
near a US Navy exercise zone
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raises the possibility they
could be military in origin.
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- They don't appear to be
aircraft or helicopters.
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No sound and these are
these little glowing orbs.
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The same orange-ish, yellowish,
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reddish glow that
Shawn had described.
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What he witnessed is consistent
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with what other people
are reporting as well.
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- [Narrator] One of those
people is Chris Larkin,
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who also captured a video
of reddish-orange orbs
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while fishing off
the Carolina coast.
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- Wife and kids went to bed.
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It was like 9 o'clock.
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I just had a couple lines then.
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I'm just sitting in a
chair, had some music on
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and just out of nowhere,
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an orange light just kind
of appears in the sky.
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No noise, no movement.
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It was just very
stationary, very silent
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and it was very unexpected
to say the least.
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At first I thought maybe
it was a helicopter
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because it wasn't moving.
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Because there are a lot of
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military installations
out there,
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you do see helicopters
out there all the time
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and you hear 'em.
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I mean, it's clear.
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And then realizing
there was no sound,
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that made it kind of strange.
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Okay, now there are four.
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How that happened?
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I don't know.
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- Describe for me if you can
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at the time the
atmospheric conditions.
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- Sure, it was very clear.
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I don't think there
were really any clouds
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and I could see the
reflection of it on the ocean,
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so that's how I knew
it wasn't that far out.
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- When I met Chris, I was
struck by his sincerity.
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He didn't seem to have
any type of agenda at all.
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Frankly, when I asked him
what he thought it was,
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he didn't know.
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He just wants some answers.
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Now, whether these things
are anything from balloons,
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military flares, drones and the
whole everything in between,
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we simply don't know.
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Are these advanced
technologies from the US?
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Is it possible?
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Sure, very doubtful.
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Are these technologies
from a foreign adversary?
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It's certainly possible.
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Are these technologies from
somewhere or someone else?
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Yeah, it's possible.
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- [Narrator] The objects
described by Shawn
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and captured on video
share some similarities,
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but Elizando wants to
know are they the same?
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And what are they?
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He contacts retired Marine
Lieutenant Colonel Chris Cooke,
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an aviation consultant
and former top gun pilot,
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to analyze these sightings.
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- Hey, Lue, how are you?
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- Mr. Cooke, I'm doing
better than I deserve.
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I appreciate it.
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Mr. Cooke, what I'm gonna
do is if it's okay with you,
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I'd like to send you some
videos to take a look at.
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I'm not gonna give you
too much information
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and see what you
think you're seeing.
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- Okay.
- [Lue] All right,
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let's go ahead and watch that.
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- [Narrator] They begin with
the one shot by Chris Larkin.
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- [Chris Larkin] Okay,
now there are four again.
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- So I don't know
the orientation
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of where this video was shot,
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but you can see them flickering,
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dropping down towards
a possible undercast
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or it could be smoke.
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It looks to me like
illumination flares.
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Two of 'em are descending.
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- There's no instantaneous
acceleration
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or crazy velocities.
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They are following relative
to what you would expect
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some sort of illumination
round or flare.
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- [Narrator] Both Elizando and
Cooke believe these objects
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could be explained
by military flares,
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but what about those in
Cooker Booth's video?
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- [Cooper] These
things are moving
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through the sky
and disappearing.
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There's a third one right there.
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- I don't if they
could be planets.
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I don't know if they could
be part of the space station,
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you know, moving across the sky.
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- I had the opportunity
to speak in person
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with the person who
actually shot the video.
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He saw these red light,
orbs, off in the distance.
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No other stars in the sky.
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No aircraft, no blinking.
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And they were moving.
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I'm pretty convinced what
he filmed is the same thing
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that continues to be
reported over and over again.
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- [Chris Cooke] Did he have
any perception of distance,
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of how far these
things were away?
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- I asked over and over again,
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"How far away ..."
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The problem, it's so hard
to tell when you're looking
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at a point of light on
a black screen, right?
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If it was just him reporting
this, I would say, "Eh,"
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but there were a lot of
people I personally spoke with
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who swear up and
down they saw it.
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- I honestly can't
tell what it is.
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- [Narrator] Elizando also
wants Cooke's thoughts
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on whether the
objects seen by Shawn
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could be a Russian sky drone.
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- He felt this thing was
intelligently controlled.
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That it was actually
following him.
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And then after a short while,
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took off like a bat out of hell.
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Now that is unusual.
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- That is unusual.
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- Curious if you've ever heard
of anything at all like that.
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- I certainly have not.
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00:17:03,033 --> 00:17:04,633
- [Narrator] Lue
Elizando and Chris Cooke
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are unable to determine
whether the objects seen
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by Shawn and Cooper Booth
are advanced drones,
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and if they are, could
that explain another rash
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of sightings 1500 miles away?
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Coming up on Unidentified.
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- [Colt] Some would
be really close
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to the ground and hovering.
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- [Joel] We're right here.
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- You'd get close and
they'd go up and take off.
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- The most I ever saw
together was about 10.
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- You have this
huge amalgamation,
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this alphabet soup of
federal, state, local agencies
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all trying to figure
out what this is,
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and at the end of the day,
we came up empty-handed.
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(tense music)
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- [Male Reporter]
Local authorities
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are investigating
the growing mystery
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of unidentified objects
flying at night over Colorado.
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- The media has
recently reported a lot
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of interesting sightings
in the Colorado skies.
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What has been described
by local law enforcement
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and other eyewitnesses as being
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some strange lights
flying in formation.
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- [Narrator] After traveling
to the Carolina coast
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to investigate a rash of
sightings of reddish orbs,
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Lue Elizando is
turning his attention
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to a new hotspot
1500 miles away.
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In late 2019, hundreds of
witnesses reported seeing
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unknown objects in the
skies over Colorado.
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- [Female Reporter] The drones
were seen as far as Nebraska.
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- [Male Reporter] Federal
Aviation Administration
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says they don't
know what they are.
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- [Narrator] Dozens of these
UFOs were captured on video.
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- One of the things I
wanna do is determine
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are these things
really man-made objects
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or is there something
else to this?
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- [Narrator] Colt
Baker and Joel Wagner
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are farmers in
Northeastern Colorado.
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- We first started
hearing about people
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in the northeast part of the
state that had seen drones
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and then one night,
my neighbor said,
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"Well, there's drones
up in the sky."
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So I went out and looked.
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- I'd go out every night and
look through my binoculars
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to try and find them.
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- [Colt] We started seeing
them about 7 o'clock.
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They'd come about an hour
after the sun went down.
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They started flying and
we'd see them from there
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for about two hours.
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- The most I ever saw
together was about 10,
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but anytime I'd see
two or three or four,
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up to five or six.
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- [Narrator] Night after night,
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residents and local law
enforcement reported seeing up
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to 30 lights at once.
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- A lot of people
started saying,
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"Oh, everybody just got
a drone for Christmas
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"and they're flying 'em,"
and we just kind of laugh.
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We said, "No, there's no way."
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We could tell they were
much larger than a drone.
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- You could tell they
were pretty massive
495
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,667
just by the space
between the lights.
496
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,700
- We know what we saw in
the sky was not normal
497
00:19:45,834 --> 00:19:48,367
and I can't say with
certainty what it was,
498
00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,333
but we know that there
was something up there
499
00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:52,133
that we hadn't ever seen before.
500
00:19:53,633 --> 00:19:56,367
- [Narrator] Baker and Wagner
use drones daily in their work
501
00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:59,033
and are very familiar
with their capabilities.
502
00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:02,800
These objects did not
act like normal drones.
503
00:20:04,734 --> 00:20:05,867
- Some were going east and west,
504
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,533
some would go north and south,
505
00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:12,000
and some would be really close
to the ground and hovering.
506
00:20:12,133 --> 00:20:16,000
And then you would get close
and they'd go up and take off.
507
00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:20,033
A few people reported that
they turned their lights off
508
00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:21,533
whenever they got close.
509
00:20:21,667 --> 00:20:23,333
- Some nights it'd seem
like they were on a grid,
510
00:20:23,467 --> 00:20:26,166
just going straight
some direction
511
00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,266
and then some nights you'd
see 'em bounce around.
512
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,767
- We thought it sounded
like a small jet engine,
513
00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:33,266
but the way they move, they
would've had to have had
514
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,033
some sort of propellor
also to change directions.
515
00:20:38,166 --> 00:20:39,600
- Are these private drones
516
00:20:39,734 --> 00:20:42,166
that are being
flown by hobbyists?
517
00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:45,600
Are they commercial drones
being flown by professionals?
518
00:20:45,734 --> 00:20:49,867
Are we talking about some sort
of secret military operation
519
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,934
or are we talking
about no-kidding UFOs?
520
00:20:53,066 --> 00:20:56,600
I'm not sure right now there's
really any way to know.
521
00:20:56,734 --> 00:20:59,333
(tense music)
522
00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:01,100
- Nobody had any
real hard evidence.
523
00:21:01,233 --> 00:21:04,100
A lot of people's videos
were just a white dot.
524
00:21:04,233 --> 00:21:05,834
Super zoomed in and all grainy
525
00:21:05,967 --> 00:21:07,767
and it could've been anything.
526
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:12,767
- It's hard to determine
what a ball of light is
527
00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,066
when you're looking
at the night sky.
528
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,100
It's very hard to
get perspective.
529
00:21:17,233 --> 00:21:20,166
It's very hard to get
altitude and speed
530
00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:23,266
because there's no way to
relate what you're looking at
531
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,166
to anything else that's static.
532
00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:27,667
- I have a night vision
scope on my rifle
533
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,333
and I actually used that to
film the drone in the sky
534
00:21:30,467 --> 00:21:32,667
and then took a picture of
the screen with my phone
535
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,433
and that's how I got
the best look at it.
536
00:21:35,567 --> 00:21:38,333
(tense music)
537
00:21:38,467 --> 00:21:40,667
- [Narrator] As the number of
credible sightings increased,
538
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,333
concerned authorities opened
an official investigation
539
00:21:43,467 --> 00:21:45,834
in early January, 2020.
540
00:21:45,967 --> 00:21:48,934
It included over 70 different
government entities.
541
00:21:49,066 --> 00:21:51,900
- The FAA convenes a meeting
and they bring together
542
00:21:52,033 --> 00:21:54,433
a lot of the local counties,
some federal agencies.
543
00:21:54,567 --> 00:21:57,000
They brought some
people from the state.
544
00:21:57,133 --> 00:21:58,767
The feds were involved.
545
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,467
- [Narrator] Sam
Tabachnik is a reporter
546
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,400
who covered the mysterious
sightings for the Denver Post.
547
00:22:03,533 --> 00:22:05,567
He says investigators
used a sophisticated
548
00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,233
surveillance plane outfitted
with thermal cameras
549
00:22:08,367 --> 00:22:12,900
capable of detecting a heat
signature from 28000 feet.
550
00:22:13,033 --> 00:22:14,500
- [Sam] Sending a plane
up there certainly showed
551
00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:16,400
that the state was
taking it very seriously.
552
00:22:16,533 --> 00:22:19,633
That the federal agencies
were taking it very seriously.
553
00:22:19,767 --> 00:22:21,667
- [Narrator] Despite the
exhaustive investigation,
554
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,500
the objects were
never identified.
555
00:22:24,633 --> 00:22:27,900
- The Colorado Department
of Public Safety plane
556
00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:30,333
saw a lot of things and
none of them were drones.
557
00:22:30,467 --> 00:22:32,500
- [Narrator] With no
official explanation,
558
00:22:32,633 --> 00:22:34,467
locals were forced to speculate.
559
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,300
- Residents had a whole
bunch of different theories
560
00:22:36,433 --> 00:22:37,567
about what was going on.
561
00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:38,900
Some people who thought
562
00:22:39,033 --> 00:22:40,900
it was a Big Brother
sort of situation,
563
00:22:41,033 --> 00:22:43,967
where they were spying or
they were mapping their houses
564
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,133
for some sort of
nefarious reason.
565
00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:47,967
People thought it was aliens.
566
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,233
- [Narrator] Could
the objects be doing
567
00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:51,166
some kind of reconnaissance?
568
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:52,166
But for whom?
569
00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:53,567
And what purpose?
570
00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:55,000
- We were talking to the FBI.
571
00:22:55,133 --> 00:22:56,400
We were talking to
Homeland Security.
572
00:22:56,533 --> 00:22:57,500
We called the Air Force.
573
00:22:57,633 --> 00:22:59,066
We called DOD.
574
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,400
We called Air Force bases.
575
00:23:02,533 --> 00:23:03,967
We called Google.
576
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,633
We called Amazon.
577
00:23:05,767 --> 00:23:07,567
We called drone companies.
578
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:09,800
We called the oil
and gas companies.
579
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:12,567
- They said, "It wasn't us."
580
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,066
(tense music)
581
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,633
- You had this
huge amalgamation,
582
00:23:19,767 --> 00:23:23,967
this alphabet soup of
federal, state, local agencies
583
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,734
all trying to figure
out what this is,
584
00:23:26,867 --> 00:23:28,900
and at the end of the day,
we came up empty-handed.
585
00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:31,734
Whatever is flying over the
continental United States,
586
00:23:31,867 --> 00:23:33,800
we better know
what that thing is.
587
00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:35,367
The fact that we
still don't know
588
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,133
what these were,
that's problematic.
589
00:23:39,533 --> 00:23:41,133
- [Narrator] Lue
Elizando and Chris Mellon
590
00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:43,800
are also concerned that some
sightings show the objects
591
00:23:43,934 --> 00:23:45,300
flying less than 50 miles
592
00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:47,467
from the F.E. Warren
Air Force Base,
593
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,066
home to an arsenal
of nuclear missiles.
594
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,967
- That area, it's
very interesting
595
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:55,900
because that occurred in
close proximity to some
596
00:23:56,033 --> 00:23:59,300
of our strategic
ballistic missile forces.
597
00:23:59,433 --> 00:24:00,700
It's a very curious area
598
00:24:00,834 --> 00:24:02,700
for these sightings
to be occurring.
599
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:06,266
- There are sensitive
facilities in Colorado.
600
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,367
You have Norad and Cheyenne
Mountain, STRATCOM,
601
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,266
and all these organizations
602
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,433
that have been involved
in national security.
603
00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:15,533
So anytime you have a report of
604
00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:18,700
some sort of activity
that's not ours
605
00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:22,867
involving some sort of
sensitive military installation,
606
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,800
that always piques my interest.
607
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,100
- [Narrator] One theory
is that the objects
608
00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:30,967
were a classified test
of military drones.
609
00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:34,133
- Across the field of conflict,
610
00:24:34,266 --> 00:24:37,100
there is increasing
reliance on drones
611
00:24:37,233 --> 00:24:40,467
to fill gaps and to do things
that couldn't be done before.
612
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,367
Either to help you
understand the enemy
613
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:43,533
or to destroy him.
614
00:24:43,667 --> 00:24:45,033
- [Narrator] Tom
Rogan is a journalist
615
00:24:45,166 --> 00:24:47,633
who covers foreign policy
for the Washington Examiner.
616
00:24:47,767 --> 00:24:51,800
- [Tom] The ability of drones
to move against an enemy force
617
00:24:51,934 --> 00:24:55,467
to overwhelm it, to create
mass destruction upon it
618
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,967
and to do so without any
human cost on your side,
619
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,367
is highly significant.
620
00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:05,100
- [Narrator] But Chris Mellon
doesn't believe these objects
621
00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:07,367
were being tested
by the military.
622
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,333
- There's no clear reason
why you would test it
623
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:15,100
over farms and ranches when
we have very large test ranges
624
00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:18,600
throughout the west provided
exactly for that reason,
625
00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,433
and if it had been
a military test,
626
00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:23,367
they should've promptly
informed the FBI
627
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,200
and others who
were investigating.
628
00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:28,934
Something went awry if it
was a military program.
629
00:25:29,066 --> 00:25:31,033
- [Narrator] But the
team still has questions.
630
00:25:31,166 --> 00:25:32,767
If these objects don't
have a commercial
631
00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:35,700
or military explanation,
then what are they?
632
00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:37,200
And where did they come from?
633
00:25:37,667 --> 00:25:39,600
Coming up on Unidentified.
634
00:25:39,734 --> 00:25:41,367
- [Tony] I couldn't imagine
not knowing
635
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:43,100
that this technology exists
636
00:25:43,233 --> 00:25:46,100
and then just seeing something
like this in the distance.
637
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:48,600
What is that?
638
00:25:48,734 --> 00:25:52,433
- [Lue] Wow,
can you imagine waking up
639
00:25:52,567 --> 00:25:53,667
in a tent in the middle
640
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,633
of the forest and having
this over your head?
641
00:25:57,133 --> 00:25:59,433
- [Camper] It looks like
a physical flying object.
642
00:25:59,567 --> 00:26:02,333
- When you hear people say
they reported seeing a UFO,
643
00:26:02,467 --> 00:26:04,266
it was doing all the
characteristics of that.
644
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000
(tense music)
645
00:26:11,233 --> 00:26:12,633
(digital chirping)
646
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,467
- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
has come to New Jersey,
647
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,767
looking for an explanation
648
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:19,600
for the increase
in strange objects
649
00:26:19,734 --> 00:26:23,734
seen over the US from
North Carolina to Colorado.
650
00:26:23,867 --> 00:26:25,233
One theory is that these objects
651
00:26:25,367 --> 00:26:27,133
could be highly advanced drones,
652
00:26:27,266 --> 00:26:29,633
but can drones move
in the ways reported?
653
00:26:29,767 --> 00:26:31,633
- We are heading to the
engineering department
654
00:26:31,767 --> 00:26:35,633
of Rowan University to
talk to some of the experts
655
00:26:35,767 --> 00:26:39,066
who are on the cutting
edge of drone technology.
656
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,233
From a military perspective,
657
00:26:40,367 --> 00:26:41,967
we call it swarm technology
658
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:45,166
and they can coordinate with
each other in real time.
659
00:26:46,266 --> 00:26:47,233
- [Narrator] Elizando
has been invited
660
00:26:47,367 --> 00:26:49,233
by the founders of Verge Aero,
661
00:26:49,367 --> 00:26:50,967
a startup company
at the forefront
662
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:52,767
of drone swarm technology
663
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,100
to check out one of
their test flights.
664
00:26:55,233 --> 00:26:56,567
- [Lue] Howdy, sir.
How are you?
665
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:58,800
- Doing all right.
How you doing?
666
00:26:58,934 --> 00:27:00,300
- That's pretty impressive.
667
00:27:01,767 --> 00:27:04,133
I'll tell you from the road,
looking at those lights,
668
00:27:04,266 --> 00:27:06,000
I thought it was a runway.
669
00:27:06,133 --> 00:27:07,200
- Did you really?
670
00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:08,633
- And it turns out
those are all drones.
671
00:27:08,767 --> 00:27:09,467
- Yeah.
672
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,567
- That's unbelievable.
673
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,633
Let's do it.
674
00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:18,367
- [Tony] Alright. Executing
in five seconds.
675
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,967
(drones buzz)
676
00:27:28,266 --> 00:27:31,533
- And just so you're looking
at 130 individually lit drones.
677
00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:34,700
Each one performs their
own flight operation,
678
00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:38,800
but they actually work together
as a fleet, as a swarm.
679
00:27:38,934 --> 00:27:40,700
(drones buzz)
680
00:27:40,834 --> 00:27:43,367
They create objects
and shapes in the sky.
681
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:44,467
- Wow.
682
00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:49,133
Can you imagine
waking up in a tent
683
00:27:49,266 --> 00:27:50,033
in the middle of the forest
684
00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:51,467
and having this over your head?
685
00:27:52,633 --> 00:27:53,433
Wow.
686
00:27:54,967 --> 00:27:57,967
And they go right back to their
prearranged location, huh?
687
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,200
- Yup.
688
00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:00,700
- [Narrator] Drone
swarm technology
689
00:28:00,834 --> 00:28:04,367
was first introduced by
the US military in 2015.
690
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:08,033
It allows for hundreds of drones
to work in coordinated ways
691
00:28:08,166 --> 00:28:10,066
and conduct precise maneuvers.
692
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,233
- For the record,
this technology,
693
00:28:12,367 --> 00:28:13,934
at least from a
commercial perspective
694
00:28:14,066 --> 00:28:16,900
has only really been
around now for how long?
695
00:28:17,033 --> 00:28:19,200
- Probably the past
two and a half years.
696
00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:20,767
- It's possible
but quite plausible
697
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,266
that people have seen
drones like these
698
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,033
and confused them for
unidentified flying objects.
699
00:28:27,166 --> 00:28:28,867
And unless you are
up close and personal
700
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,900
and see it's a drone,
701
00:28:31,033 --> 00:28:32,934
it's really hard to tell
what the hell it is.
702
00:28:33,066 --> 00:28:34,934
- 100%.
703
00:28:35,066 --> 00:28:38,100
I couldn't imagine not knowing
that this technology exists
704
00:28:38,233 --> 00:28:39,600
(drones buzz)
705
00:28:39,734 --> 00:28:40,934
and then just seeing something
like this in the distance,
706
00:28:41,066 --> 00:28:44,266
of course, what is that?
707
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,700
It's an unidentified
flying object.
708
00:28:46,834 --> 00:28:50,033
But like with that mothership
the negative space,
709
00:28:50,166 --> 00:28:52,400
it looks like a
physical flying object.
710
00:28:52,533 --> 00:28:53,900
- That negative space,
711
00:28:54,033 --> 00:28:55,734
it appears that there's
a solid object behind it.
712
00:28:55,867 --> 00:28:56,700
- Yeah.
713
00:28:56,834 --> 00:28:58,867
(drones buzz)
714
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,100
This is pretty crazy to
watch this final maneuver.
715
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,200
- [Lue] Wow.
716
00:29:09,734 --> 00:29:10,967
You know, in recent headlines,
717
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:15,934
Colorado has been experiencing
a rash, if you will,
718
00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:16,834
of drone sightings.
719
00:29:16,967 --> 00:29:18,100
Now, they call them drones.
720
00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:18,767
We don't know what
they really are,
721
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:19,667
- Yeah, right.
722
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,266
- But FAA has looked into it,
723
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,166
the military's looked into
it, local law enforcement.
724
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:23,433
They can't find the people
725
00:29:23,567 --> 00:29:24,834
who are driving or
flying these things.
726
00:29:24,967 --> 00:29:26,166
- Right.
- It's they seem to be flying
727
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,433
in a very regimented
flight path and pattern
728
00:29:29,567 --> 00:29:32,934
doing either survey
or reconnaissance.
729
00:29:33,066 --> 00:29:34,467
- Right.
730
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,934
- What are your thoughts on
what's going on in Colorado?
731
00:29:38,066 --> 00:29:39,100
- It could be a
system like this,
732
00:29:39,233 --> 00:29:40,600
maybe some prototype system
733
00:29:40,734 --> 00:29:43,266
that some tinkerers
are working with
734
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,967
and they're getting
pretty good at.
735
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,000
- So it would not be out of
the realm of possibility that,
736
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:50,500
really, these are
drones being tested
737
00:29:50,633 --> 00:29:52,800
by either some large corporation
738
00:29:52,934 --> 00:29:56,934
or unique military activity
that people don't ...
739
00:29:57,066 --> 00:29:58,100
They wanna remain
740
00:29:58,233 --> 00:29:59,767
either anonymous or secretive.
- Right
741
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:00,600
Exactly, yeah.
742
00:30:00,734 --> 00:30:02,000
(door shuts)
743
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:04,000
- [Narrator] Elizando
notices a line of spectators,
744
00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:06,266
which could provide
real time data
745
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,133
on how these objects
are perceived.
746
00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:09,333
- We're just driving
down the street.
747
00:30:09,467 --> 00:30:10,667
We had no idea what's happening
748
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,266
and we definitely ...
749
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,667
Kids are playing on
their little iPads,
750
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,967
I'm listening to music, talking
751
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:16,166
and I'm like, "What is it?"
752
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:17,266
- "What the heck is that?"
- Yeah.
753
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,433
I mean, I was like,
754
00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:19,300
"That's not supposed
to be there."
755
00:30:19,433 --> 00:30:20,800
- [Woman] It looked a lot ...
756
00:30:20,934 --> 00:30:21,934
We couldn't figure out exactly
where it was coming from.
757
00:30:22,066 --> 00:30:23,100
- [Man] When it disappeared,
758
00:30:23,233 --> 00:30:24,767
I said "now, that's weird".
759
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:26,133
That's when I really thought.
760
00:30:26,266 --> 00:30:28,166
We gotta be seen something
that's not normal.
761
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:29,333
And it had me going.
762
00:30:29,467 --> 00:30:30,266
- 'Cause it was spinning
763
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,467
- And it was spinning.
764
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,734
- Yeah.
765
00:30:32,867 --> 00:30:34,500
- It was changing shape,
doing everything that,
766
00:30:34,633 --> 00:30:37,266
when you hear people say
they reported seeing a UFO,
767
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,500
it was doing all the
characteristics of that.
768
00:30:39,633 --> 00:30:42,333
- If you didn't know better,
it looked like a solid object.
769
00:30:42,467 --> 00:30:43,600
Obviously got your
attention, right?
770
00:30:43,734 --> 00:30:44,667
- You see all the cars
that pulled in here?
771
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,934
- I know.
772
00:30:46,066 --> 00:30:47,333
- There's a parade of
cars coming in here.
773
00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:50,433
- These things are maneuvering
so precise in the air
774
00:30:50,567 --> 00:30:52,767
that the eye actually believes
775
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,500
there's a solid object
776
00:30:54,633 --> 00:30:57,934
that is holding these
points of light together.
777
00:30:58,066 --> 00:31:01,834
And as we saw with just
average American citizens
778
00:31:01,967 --> 00:31:03,200
on the road,
779
00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:05,367
they actually pulled
their vehicles over
780
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:06,667
and looked at it
781
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,900
and the first thing they
thought was, "My God,
782
00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:10,333
"that's a UFO."
783
00:31:11,633 --> 00:31:13,233
- [Narrator] Advanced
drone swarm technology
784
00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:15,033
could account for
some of the thousands
785
00:31:15,166 --> 00:31:18,166
of new UFO sightings in 2019,
786
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:19,600
but can it explain them all
787
00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:22,066
and can artificial intelligence
788
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,033
help identify the ones that can?
789
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:26,233
(tense music)
790
00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:28,834
Coming up on Unidentified.
791
00:31:28,967 --> 00:31:31,367
- I would say that out of all
the videos I've seen so far,
792
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,567
that's one you might wanna
investigate a little further.
793
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,000
- Something's up there, dude.
794
00:31:36,133 --> 00:31:37,333
What the (beep) is that?
795
00:31:38,533 --> 00:31:40,066
- Now more than ever,
it's really important
796
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,900
that we have the
ability to differentiate
797
00:31:42,033 --> 00:31:46,834
between those videos
that are clearly fake
798
00:31:46,967 --> 00:31:48,900
and then those
that are authentic.
799
00:31:49,033 --> 00:31:49,867
- Absolutely.
800
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,967
(dramatic music)
801
00:31:56,934 --> 00:31:58,600
- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
has just witnessed
802
00:31:58,734 --> 00:32:01,367
drone swarm technology
fool onlookers
803
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,900
into believing they saw a UFO,
804
00:32:04,033 --> 00:32:07,333
but can this technology
explain all of the strange orbs
805
00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:10,233
and lights scene in 2019?
806
00:32:10,367 --> 00:32:12,166
And what about those
captured on video
807
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,667
by some of the 250
million Americans
808
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,000
with smartphones
pointed at the skies,
809
00:32:17,133 --> 00:32:20,734
those shaped like triangles
or Tic Tacs or fireballs.
810
00:32:20,867 --> 00:32:23,367
- This year we had
a lot of people
811
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,166
providing us hard video data
812
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:30,700
and pictures of what they
believe to be UFO/UAPs
813
00:32:30,834 --> 00:32:33,900
and a lot of these were
actually very compelling to me.
814
00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:37,000
However, equally
frustrating is the fact that
815
00:32:37,133 --> 00:32:39,667
cell phones are very specific.
816
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400
They are designed
to, in essence,
817
00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:45,500
take a picture of myself,
what we call selfies.
818
00:32:45,633 --> 00:32:48,900
They're not designed to
have a telephoto lens
819
00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:51,900
to take pictures of aircraft
that may be miles away.
820
00:32:52,033 --> 00:32:54,900
Some point when you are
zooming into an object,
821
00:32:55,033 --> 00:32:56,000
it's gonna get blurry.
822
00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:57,900
Plus you have auto focus issues.
823
00:32:58,033 --> 00:32:59,834
They were good for what
they're designed to do,
824
00:32:59,967 --> 00:33:01,633
but not necessarily
825
00:33:01,767 --> 00:33:04,500
for what we need them
to do involving UAPs.
826
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,567
- [Narrator] Elizando
is hoping new technology
827
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,900
can help separate the
mysterious from the mundane.
828
00:33:11,033 --> 00:33:12,066
- Hey Joe.
- Hey man.
829
00:33:13,734 --> 00:33:15,633
- [Narrator] Today, he's
meeting with Joe Shurman
830
00:33:15,767 --> 00:33:17,767
whose artificial
intelligence program
831
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:19,066
is a potential breakthrough
832
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,734
in examining videos of
unexplained sightings.
833
00:33:21,867 --> 00:33:23,467
He calls it the Vault.
834
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,967
- So one of the things that's
very, very interesting for me
835
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,467
is that up to this point,
836
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,633
we've been really focusing
on the military individuals,
837
00:33:29,767 --> 00:33:32,100
but there's a lot of average,
Joe Americans
838
00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:33,934
capturing images on
their cell phones
839
00:33:34,066 --> 00:33:35,734
and their personal devices.
840
00:33:35,867 --> 00:33:37,300
And I think now more than ever,
841
00:33:37,433 --> 00:33:38,266
it's really important
842
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,800
that we have the ability
843
00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:45,133
to differentiate between those
videos that are clearly fake
844
00:33:45,266 --> 00:33:47,066
and then those
that are authentic.
845
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,567
- Absolutely.
846
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,633
- [Narrator] The Volt uses
artificial intelligence
847
00:33:50,767 --> 00:33:53,633
to look for layering issues
and pixel irregularities
848
00:33:53,767 --> 00:33:54,900
in UFO videos
849
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:56,900
to see if they have
been altered or faked.
850
00:33:57,033 --> 00:34:00,633
It can also determine if the
UFO has matched known objects.
851
00:34:00,767 --> 00:34:04,033
- We can create libraries
of known object types.
852
00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:07,467
So that will discount
some scenarios
853
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,500
where you had misreportings
854
00:34:08,633 --> 00:34:11,300
of drones or low-hanging flights
855
00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:13,033
and bad weather
pattern type scenarios.
856
00:34:13,166 --> 00:34:14,967
We would be looking for
a frame irregularity
857
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:16,533
and color pixelation issues
858
00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:18,166
at the same time.
- Right.
859
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:19,367
- Oh wow.
860
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:20,834
- [Narrator] They begin
with a video taken
861
00:34:20,967 --> 00:34:22,367
in Salt Lake City
862
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,367
that shows three lights hovering
and moving in bizarre ways.
863
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:27,533
- Basically, you can
see in this video,
864
00:34:27,667 --> 00:34:30,300
they're clearly behind
those power lines, right?
865
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:34,633
And you'll see here that
the object below here
866
00:34:36,266 --> 00:34:37,800
appears ahead of the actual ...
867
00:34:37,934 --> 00:34:38,967
It blocks right there.
868
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:40,467
It actually blocks out
- Interesting.
869
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,967
- The power line itself.
870
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:45,200
What the system did detect
was an appearance issue.
871
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,033
It shows a positive
trend towards layering.
872
00:34:48,166 --> 00:34:50,033
So what that means is this video
873
00:34:50,166 --> 00:34:52,200
could have been taken separately
874
00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:55,300
and then superimposed on
top of a separate video.
875
00:34:55,433 --> 00:34:58,033
- [Narrator] Another video
shows a triangular UFO.
876
00:34:58,166 --> 00:34:59,533
- What the (beep) is that?
877
00:34:59,667 --> 00:35:00,600
Look straight up, dude.
878
00:35:00,734 --> 00:35:01,533
Watch the spotlights.
879
00:35:01,667 --> 00:35:02,734
I'll tell you when to look.
880
00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:04,367
- Yeah, actually this
one did not pass.
881
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,066
The pixelation is different
between the surrounding lights
882
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,600
versus the light
that is pulsating,
883
00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:12,000
the bright light...
884
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:12,867
- [Narrator] The Vault
flags issues with the focus
885
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,367
on the outermost lights
886
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,600
and pixelation differences
on the pulsating light
887
00:35:16,734 --> 00:35:17,867
in the middle.
888
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,367
That could mean the
video was doctored.
889
00:35:20,967 --> 00:35:22,734
- If you notice on the screen,
there is a clear difference
890
00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:25,100
between the surrounding pattern,
891
00:35:25,233 --> 00:35:27,200
the pixelation of that object
892
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:29,867
and the pixelation of the
background in the environment.
893
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,533
- [Narrator] These issues
could also be caused
894
00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:32,900
by low quality video.
895
00:35:33,033 --> 00:35:35,100
- Not having access
to the raw data
896
00:35:35,233 --> 00:35:36,900
and spending more time
897
00:35:37,033 --> 00:35:39,900
matching this up
against another marker,
898
00:35:40,033 --> 00:35:44,100
I'd say it might have a 20 to
30% likelihood of being real.
899
00:35:44,233 --> 00:35:46,600
(plane engine zooms)
900
00:35:46,734 --> 00:35:47,867
- [Narrator] Elizando
and Joe Shurman
901
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,367
evaluate several more
videos using the Vault.
902
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,934
Like this one showing
a Tic Tac-like object.
903
00:35:53,066 --> 00:35:56,834
- So labeling it picked
up as a aircraft.
904
00:35:58,066 --> 00:36:01,000
There were no issues
related to pixelation,
905
00:36:01,133 --> 00:36:03,667
no issues related to
file manipulation.
906
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,133
It passed the gate checks.
907
00:36:05,266 --> 00:36:07,934
I don't know what it is,
to be honest with you.
908
00:36:08,066 --> 00:36:08,867
- Fascinating.
909
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,934
- Fascinating.
910
00:36:10,066 --> 00:36:11,100
- [Narrator] This one appears
911
00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:13,333
to show several
fireballs over Milwaukee.
912
00:36:13,467 --> 00:36:14,166
(crowd talks)
913
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:15,934
- [Woman] I can't see
914
00:36:16,066 --> 00:36:17,467
- [Man] It's the
end of the world
915
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,800
- Vault has come back from
a AI analysis perspective
916
00:36:19,934 --> 00:36:27,000
and stated aircraft debris,
weather comet, night sky stars.
917
00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:29,000
The video is not altered at all.
918
00:36:29,133 --> 00:36:32,133
There is no audio issues,
no frame, no layering.
919
00:36:32,266 --> 00:36:34,667
I would say that out of all
the videos I've seen so far,
920
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,600
that's one you might wanna
investigate a little further.
921
00:36:38,734 --> 00:36:40,934
(calm music)
922
00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:45,767
- At the end of the day,
we're trying to solve a puzzle
923
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,266
and get to the truth.
924
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,266
Even if you can get five
really interesting videos
925
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,500
from 1000, then you know,
that's great
926
00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:55,000
because now those five
927
00:36:55,133 --> 00:36:56,633
are the ones you're going
to pay attention to a lot.
928
00:36:56,767 --> 00:36:59,300
For us to have the ability
technologically speaking,
929
00:36:59,433 --> 00:37:03,233
to determine whether or not
something is legitimate,
930
00:37:03,367 --> 00:37:04,567
is it real,
931
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,266
is it truly an unidentified
aerial phenomena,
932
00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:10,400
I think is tremendous,
933
00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:11,734
- [Narrator] But
journalist Tom Rogan
934
00:37:11,867 --> 00:37:12,900
believes it may be impossible
935
00:37:13,033 --> 00:37:14,867
to capture UFOs on video
936
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,066
because they don't
wanna to be seen.
937
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,533
- Why in the era of a cheap,
portable recording devices,
938
00:37:21,667 --> 00:37:23,066
do we not see more evidence?
939
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,867
Is that in a lot of the
most compelling cases,
940
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,033
whatever these things are
either willing to be seen
941
00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:31,333
at certain times or unwilling.
942
00:37:31,467 --> 00:37:34,734
So, the expectation
there would be
943
00:37:34,867 --> 00:37:37,333
you know, some effort
at a concealment.
944
00:37:38,633 --> 00:37:40,700
- [Narrator] Coming
up on Unidentified.
945
00:37:40,834 --> 00:37:44,367
If technology can't answer
all of Elizando's questions,
946
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,333
maybe his team of experts can.
947
00:37:46,467 --> 00:37:47,734
- You have a lot
of people reporting
948
00:37:47,867 --> 00:37:49,834
some strange lights
in the skies.
949
00:37:49,967 --> 00:37:51,967
A lot of folks are saying
no, they're just drones.
950
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,200
- [Chris] When we see Tic
Tac shape objects
951
00:37:54,333 --> 00:37:56,233
and then they're shooting
up to 80,000 feet,
952
00:37:56,367 --> 00:37:58,734
I think things that
fall into that category,
953
00:37:58,867 --> 00:38:02,633
we can pretty safely assume
was not made by our government.
954
00:38:02,767 --> 00:38:05,233
(tense music)
955
00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:13,567
- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
has been gathering new data
956
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:16,066
about the thousands of
unidentified objects
957
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,333
that were witnessed
across the US in 2019.
958
00:38:19,467 --> 00:38:23,066
- There was almost a doubling
of reporting of UFO sightings
959
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,734
and I think that's significant.
960
00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:25,900
- [Narrator] Some
of these objects
961
00:38:26,033 --> 00:38:28,834
appear to be flares,
others drones
962
00:38:28,967 --> 00:38:31,500
and some seem to defy
the laws of nature.
963
00:38:31,633 --> 00:38:34,100
(crowd shout)
964
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,967
(digital chirping)
965
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:39,900
Now, Elizando and Chris Mellon
966
00:38:40,033 --> 00:38:41,734
are meeting with
the rest of the team
967
00:38:41,867 --> 00:38:45,166
to help understand what's
behind this surge in sightings.
968
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,900
- [Lue] Alrighty gents.
Appreciate everybody's time.
969
00:38:48,033 --> 00:38:49,200
(tense music)
970
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:51,233
- [Narrator] Hal Puthoff
was a research scientist
971
00:38:51,367 --> 00:38:52,567
for the CIA
972
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:54,500
and advises the
Department of Defense
973
00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:56,400
on cutting edge technology.
974
00:38:56,533 --> 00:38:59,233
Steve justice helped run to
Lockheed Martin Skunkworks
975
00:38:59,367 --> 00:39:02,233
which builds some of America's
most advanced war planes.
976
00:39:02,367 --> 00:39:04,400
- You gentlemen will
definitely know more than me
977
00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:07,600
when it comes to whether or
not some of these technologies
978
00:39:07,734 --> 00:39:08,767
are being fielded right now
979
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:09,967
and if they are being fielded,
980
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:11,433
who's fielding them.
981
00:39:11,567 --> 00:39:13,967
And could this be causing
some of the confusion
982
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,066
and at least some
of the sighting
983
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,133
that people are reporting to us?
984
00:39:18,266 --> 00:39:20,233
- [Narrator] One possibility
for the confusion
985
00:39:20,367 --> 00:39:22,967
is conventional technology
like satellites.
986
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:27,567
In 2019, a Space X launch
of 60 Starlink satellites
987
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:29,467
created a line of
mysterious lights
988
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600
that spread across the sky.
989
00:39:31,734 --> 00:39:32,800
- It's always been the case
990
00:39:32,934 --> 00:39:34,467
that the great
majority of sightings
991
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,066
have had conventional
explanations.
992
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,800
It is true that some UFO reports
993
00:39:39,934 --> 00:39:45,266
are the result of increased
satellite activity,
994
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,100
either a launch or deployment.
995
00:39:47,233 --> 00:39:49,633
- So now we have all
these things in the sky
996
00:39:49,767 --> 00:39:51,900
that weren't there before
997
00:39:52,033 --> 00:39:53,133
and they're strange shapes
998
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:54,967
and at a distance,
999
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:57,900
they can trigger all
kinds of reports.
1000
00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:00,133
- I wanted to get your
thoughts on whether
1001
00:40:00,266 --> 00:40:02,467
what some of these people
are reporting really
1002
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,266
are nothing more
than new technology
1003
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,767
that's either being secretly
developed by the US Government
1004
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:09,633
or some private
industries out there
1005
00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:13,633
and people are confusing
those capabilities with UFOs.
1006
00:40:13,767 --> 00:40:18,633
- We now know that many of the
UFO reports of decades past
1007
00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:21,767
were in fact,
classified US platforms
1008
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:23,567
being flown out of
desert test ranges,
1009
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,300
F-117s, B-2 Bombers
and the like.
1010
00:40:26,433 --> 00:40:27,567
- U-2s.
1011
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:29,066
- You can expect
that to continue.
1012
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,967
However, there are a
residual number of cases
1013
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,700
that are not explained by
any of this technology.
1014
00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:39,066
And so we're still in a quandary
1015
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,066
and we still have work to do.
1016
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,233
- [Narrator] To the
team, certain objects,
1017
00:40:43,367 --> 00:40:46,133
like the one witnessed by
Shaun over North Carolina,
1018
00:40:46,266 --> 00:40:50,633
exhibiting some of the five
observables remain unidentified.
1019
00:40:50,767 --> 00:40:53,400
- In given cases, you could
take each one of these and say,
1020
00:40:53,533 --> 00:40:54,467
"Okay.
1021
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,033
I can see a case there where
1022
00:40:56,166 --> 00:41:00,467
someone would mistake something
that was one or the other."
1023
00:41:01,567 --> 00:41:03,867
But at the level that our
pilots have been seeing,
1024
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,800
I don't think there's
a way to match that
1025
00:41:05,934 --> 00:41:09,200
into a series of false alarms.
1026
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:11,133
- So when we see
saucer-shape things
1027
00:41:11,266 --> 00:41:12,667
that are flying at hyper speeds
1028
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,700
or Tic Tac-shape objects
1029
00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:17,700
and then they're making
radical maneuvers
1030
00:41:17,834 --> 00:41:19,533
and shooting up to 80,000 feet,
1031
00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:21,967
I think things that
fall into that category,
1032
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,867
we can pretty safely assume
or not something that's --
1033
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,133
- Not one of ours.
1034
00:41:27,333 --> 00:41:29,166
- Was not made by
our government.
1035
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:30,533
- [Narrator] The
team also cautions
1036
00:41:30,667 --> 00:41:32,800
against assuming
unknown objects.
1037
00:41:32,934 --> 00:41:36,333
Like those seen over
Colorado are drones.
1038
00:41:36,467 --> 00:41:37,834
- You have a lot
of people reporting
1039
00:41:37,967 --> 00:41:41,133
some strange lights in the
sky, strange activities.
1040
00:41:41,266 --> 00:41:42,800
A lot of folks are saying
no, they're just drones.
1041
00:41:42,934 --> 00:41:46,200
- And then people assign
drones to this phenomenon
1042
00:41:46,333 --> 00:41:49,133
because you have these
giant stage shows
1043
00:41:49,266 --> 00:41:51,467
where drones flew in formation
1044
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,300
and made patterns in the sky.
1045
00:41:53,433 --> 00:41:56,467
And so when people would see
a bunch of lights in the sky
1046
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,467
in a pattern becomes drones,
1047
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,934
I always hesitate
to label something
1048
00:42:02,066 --> 00:42:04,767
because instantly you
stop looking elsewhere
1049
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:06,200
for what the answer is.
1050
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:10,867
- [Narrator] Whether the
objects are drones or not,
1051
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,266
the team agrees that if they
are adversarial technology,
1052
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,700
terrestrial or otherwise,
1053
00:42:15,834 --> 00:42:18,367
it represents a
significant threat.
1054
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,200
- I would say right
now we are defenseless
1055
00:42:22,233 --> 00:42:24,700
in terms of our border areas.
1056
00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:27,934
The attacks that the Iranians
undertook against Saudi Arabia
1057
00:42:28,066 --> 00:42:30,533
using a drone is an attack
1058
00:42:30,667 --> 00:42:33,033
that could be undertaken against
1059
00:42:33,166 --> 00:42:34,734
the continental
United States today
1060
00:42:34,867 --> 00:42:36,266
if they had sufficient range.
1061
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,266
So this trend is certainly
1062
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
greatly exacerbating
the security challenge,
1063
00:42:43,333 --> 00:42:44,600
particularly when it's combined
1064
00:42:44,734 --> 00:42:47,633
with other trends in
technology that we're seeing.
1065
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:50,033
- Whether you want
to ascribe this
1066
00:42:50,166 --> 00:42:52,200
as being some drone technology
1067
00:42:52,333 --> 00:42:55,400
or super secret US
technology or Russian
1068
00:42:55,533 --> 00:42:58,367
or advanced Chinese
technology, great.
1069
00:42:58,500 --> 00:42:59,367
Maybe you're right.
1070
00:43:00,433 --> 00:43:01,533
Maybe you're wrong.
1071
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,166
I would be very wary
of anybody telling you,
1072
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:08,000
"We know exactly
what these are."
1073
00:43:08,133 --> 00:43:10,300
because we studied
these in the government,
1074
00:43:10,433 --> 00:43:12,767
at least, in my
group for 10 years
1075
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,133
and we don't know
exactly what they are.
1076
00:43:15,266 --> 00:43:17,700
(tense music)
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