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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,266 --> 00:00:04,933 ANNOUNCER: This program is rated PG, and contains 2 00:00:04,933 --> 00:00:05,033 ANNOUNCER: This program is rated PG, and contains 3 00:00:05,166 --> 00:00:06,533 mature subject matter. 4 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:08,200 Viewer discretion is advised. 5 00:00:12,166 --> 00:00:13,533 ) 6 00:00:13,667 --> 00:00:15,934 - [Narrator] Tonight on Unidentified. 7 00:00:16,066 --> 00:00:19,533 - Out of nowhere this object drops out from the sky, 8 00:00:19,667 --> 00:00:22,166 zipped off in incredible speed. 9 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:24,767 - [Narrator] It was the sighting that stunned the world. 10 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:27,533 - We were all clamoring to get on the radio, 11 00:00:28,834 --> 00:00:30,367 "What the f--- is that?" 12 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:32,433 - [Narrator] Unidentified objects captured on video 13 00:00:32,567 --> 00:00:34,000 by US Navy pilots. 14 00:00:34,133 --> 00:00:37,934 - Somebody has mastered aeronautical technologies 15 00:00:38,066 --> 00:00:41,100 that are far superior to anything we possess. 16 00:00:41,233 --> 00:00:43,100 - [Pilot]Look at that thing dude. 17 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:44,600 - [Narrator] Now a new development, 18 00:00:44,734 --> 00:00:46,934 possibly more troubling than the objects themselves, 19 00:00:47,066 --> 00:00:49,333 is there a conspiracy to hide the truth? 20 00:00:49,467 --> 00:00:50,600 - And he comes in, 21 00:00:50,734 --> 00:00:52,200 asks for the hard drives that were on that plane. 22 00:00:52,333 --> 00:00:53,533 - Doesn't it seem odd to you 23 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:55,533 that the Air Force hasn't spoken up? 24 00:00:55,667 --> 00:00:56,500 - [Narrator] Does the trail lead 25 00:00:56,633 --> 00:00:58,533 to America's most secret base? 26 00:01:02,567 --> 00:01:04,433 - [Narrator] Are these UFOs made in the USA 27 00:01:04,567 --> 00:01:06,834 or are they truly unidentified? 28 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:08,433 - [Lue] If this is a flight safety issue 29 00:01:08,567 --> 00:01:11,333 or a potential threat to national security 30 00:01:11,467 --> 00:01:12,867 then we need to know about it. 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,700 (whooshing) 32 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:23,667 - [Narrator] Everything we know about UFOs is changing. 33 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,100 Thanks to a team led by former Pentagon UFO investigator, 34 00:01:27,233 --> 00:01:28,333 Lue Elizando. 35 00:01:28,467 --> 00:01:31,100 - That is real, whatever that is. 36 00:01:31,233 --> 00:01:32,834 - [Narrator] And former top intelligence official, 37 00:01:32,967 --> 00:01:34,333 Chris Mellon. 38 00:01:34,467 --> 00:01:36,667 - This is a current continuing phenomenon it's happening, 39 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,834 it continues to happen. 40 00:01:38,967 --> 00:01:40,333 (whooshing) 41 00:01:40,467 --> 00:01:42,433 - [Narrator] They discovered five unique characteristics 42 00:01:42,567 --> 00:01:46,033 that UFOs have in common called the five observables. 43 00:01:47,233 --> 00:01:49,433 They also released groundbreaking videos 44 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:53,734 that forced the Navy to admit its pilots 45 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:57,266 were coming face to face with unidentified objects. 46 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,166 - [Reporter] The US Navy made a shocking admission today. 47 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:02,233 - [Reporter] Strange flying objects caught on tape 48 00:02:02,367 --> 00:02:05,100 by their own fighter pilots are in fact, UFOs. 49 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:06,867 (upbeat dramatic music) 50 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,667 - [Narrator] Now a new wave of military witnesses 51 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,667 is coming out of the shadows. 52 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,000 - I've never seen anything move like that. 53 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:14,433 Shape, size, speed is clearly unidentified. 54 00:02:15,767 --> 00:02:18,233 - [Narrator] The team is United on a new mission, 55 00:02:18,367 --> 00:02:21,400 connect the dots to reveal the truth about UFOs. 56 00:02:21,533 --> 00:02:25,300 - This thing had no capability like anything on earth. 57 00:02:25,433 --> 00:02:26,500 - [Narrator] And warn the world 58 00:02:26,633 --> 00:02:28,834 about the dangers they might represent. 59 00:02:28,967 --> 00:02:31,233 - Carl Sagan once famously said, 60 00:02:31,367 --> 00:02:34,500 "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." 61 00:02:34,633 --> 00:02:36,433 He was absolutely right, 62 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:39,400 but now we have the proof. 63 00:02:39,533 --> 00:02:41,834 (whooshing) 64 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,500 (upbeat dramatic music) 65 00:02:52,767 --> 00:02:54,500 - [Narrator] Lue Elizando and the team have been haunted 66 00:02:54,633 --> 00:02:58,166 by what Navy pilots encountered over the Pacific in 2004. 67 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,900 And over the Atlantic in 2015. 68 00:03:01,033 --> 00:03:03,200 - [Chris] US aerospace is being violated 69 00:03:03,333 --> 00:03:06,567 by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities. 70 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:10,633 - [Narrator] The objects were captured on video 71 00:03:10,767 --> 00:03:13,533 that Tom DeLonge was determined to show the world. 72 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:15,233 - [Tom] I was like, there's three videos coming. 73 00:03:15,367 --> 00:03:19,967 The first three videos of UFOs to be declassified 74 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,633 in US history. 75 00:03:21,767 --> 00:03:23,467 - [Narrator] The first video was taken by pilots 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,900 from the USS Nimitz 77 00:03:25,033 --> 00:03:27,367 who chased down the Tic Tac shape object. 78 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:30,633 - It's white, it has no wings, it has no rotors. 79 00:03:30,767 --> 00:03:31,900 - Maybe 40 feet. 80 00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:34,200 Large enough to scare the s--- out of me. 81 00:03:34,333 --> 00:03:35,400 - [Narrator] The other two videos 82 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:37,567 were believed to be recorded in 2015 83 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:39,700 over the Atlantic by stunned pilots 84 00:03:39,834 --> 00:03:41,800 from the USS Theodore Roosevelt. 85 00:03:46,934 --> 00:03:50,467 (upbeat dramatic music) 86 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,700 - [Narrator] Elizando and his partners are still grappling 87 00:03:52,834 --> 00:03:55,734 with the implications of what these Navy pilots saw. 88 00:03:55,867 --> 00:03:57,900 - [Lue] This is an evolving story. 89 00:03:58,033 --> 00:04:01,767 I think we realize now that the USS Nimitz incident 90 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:03,800 may be actually far more comprehensive 91 00:04:03,934 --> 00:04:06,200 than anyone of us initially thought. 92 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:08,467 There's been some whispers now for the last six months 93 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,133 that other individuals in the Navy, on board the vessels 94 00:04:12,266 --> 00:04:14,800 and possibly other aircraft actually saw 95 00:04:14,934 --> 00:04:17,367 the Tic Tac with their own eyes. 96 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:19,600 I wanna get to the bottom of it. 97 00:04:19,734 --> 00:04:21,433 - [Narrator] One of those individuals is now 98 00:04:21,567 --> 00:04:22,533 coming forward. 99 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:24,533 Omar Lara was an enlisted sailor 100 00:04:24,667 --> 00:04:27,233 who worked on the Nimitz's aviation fuel systems. 101 00:04:28,266 --> 00:04:31,467 - Jets would come in park, 102 00:04:32,834 --> 00:04:34,467 we'd fuel them up. 103 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,100 They'll disembark. 104 00:04:36,233 --> 00:04:38,533 (whooshing) 105 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,133 - [Narrator] In November 2004, 106 00:04:43,266 --> 00:04:44,800 the Nimitz led a carrier strike group 107 00:04:44,934 --> 00:04:47,767 on a training exercise off the Southern California coast 108 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:49,967 that included an attack submarine 109 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:53,600 in the advanced radar-equipped USS Princeton. 110 00:04:53,734 --> 00:04:57,300 Several days after the infamous Tic Tac video was taken 111 00:04:57,433 --> 00:04:58,967 Lara says he was on the Nimitz deck, 112 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:01,433 responding to what turned out to be a false alarm 113 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:03,100 of a man overboard. 114 00:05:03,233 --> 00:05:04,367 - All the jets had left 115 00:05:05,967 --> 00:05:08,533 except for the personnel who take care of maintenance 116 00:05:08,667 --> 00:05:11,867 and the work centers on board the aircraft carrier, 117 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,266 and a sailor had a falling overboard. 118 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,633 And at that time a man overboard was called 119 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:20,800 and everyone needs to report in person. 120 00:05:23,567 --> 00:05:27,367 So we ended up on the fantail starboard side, 121 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,667 looking towards out to the vest ocean's 122 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,300 beautiful panoramic view. 123 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:34,600 And out of nowhere, 124 00:05:34,734 --> 00:05:38,467 this object drops out from the sky 125 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,200 at incredible speed. 126 00:05:40,333 --> 00:05:42,867 It just plants itself right above the ocean. 127 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,600 The object itself was this white luminescent object. 128 00:05:46,734 --> 00:05:48,834 This thing did not stop 129 00:05:48,967 --> 00:05:52,934 or slow down up until maybe a hundred feet 130 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:54,200 above the waterline. 131 00:05:54,333 --> 00:05:56,266 And it stopped on a dime. 132 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,033 Then it zipped off to our right 133 00:05:58,166 --> 00:06:00,500 at incredible speed with no Sonic boom. 134 00:06:00,633 --> 00:06:04,667 You had to literally move your torso, 135 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,100 a slight turn to your right to follow it. 136 00:06:08,233 --> 00:06:12,000 The speed and the maneuverability of this object 137 00:06:12,133 --> 00:06:14,300 is nothing I've ever seen 138 00:06:14,433 --> 00:06:16,433 in my 10 years in the United States Navy. 139 00:06:16,567 --> 00:06:19,667 (upbeat suspenseful music) 140 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,166 - Mr. Lara's testimony is very important 141 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,166 because Mr. Lara is reporting the same type of maneuvering 142 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:28,734 that was described by the pilots. 143 00:06:28,867 --> 00:06:30,667 You have, Mr. Lara, substantiating, 144 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,500 instantaneous acceleration. 145 00:06:32,633 --> 00:06:34,500 You also have hypersonic velocities 146 00:06:35,633 --> 00:06:38,834 and this ability to seemingly defy gravity, 147 00:06:38,967 --> 00:06:40,266 you don't have wings 148 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,000 and you don't have any obvious means of propulsion. 149 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:47,533 - I do not believe that what I saw was made on this planet. 150 00:06:48,467 --> 00:06:49,834 If it wasn't made by us 151 00:06:49,967 --> 00:06:52,367 and you can count us off as the number one superpower. 152 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:58,533 This thing just basically made you feel smaller. 153 00:06:59,567 --> 00:07:01,734 It's a paradigm changer. 154 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:04,500 - [Narrator] But perhaps what's most striking 155 00:07:04,633 --> 00:07:06,066 about Lara's alleged sighting, 156 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,066 is that it was unknown until the videos were made public. 157 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,667 (upbeat suspenseful music) 158 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,667 16 years after the Nimitz incident, 159 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,066 the team investigates evidence of a coverup. 160 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,734 - Gentleman, great to see all again. 161 00:07:20,867 --> 00:07:22,233 - [Narrator] The team is following a trail 162 00:07:22,367 --> 00:07:25,900 that could lead to the US militaries own black projects. 163 00:07:26,033 --> 00:07:27,800 - This last year and a half, 164 00:07:27,934 --> 00:07:29,734 two years has been pretty monumental 165 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:31,400 in what we've been able to collectively achieve 166 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:33,000 regarding the topic. 167 00:07:33,133 --> 00:07:35,500 You have an acknowledgement by the Department of Defense 168 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:37,233 that the videos were authentic. 169 00:07:37,367 --> 00:07:38,900 And you also have an acknowledgement now 170 00:07:39,033 --> 00:07:40,000 from the Navy 171 00:07:40,133 --> 00:07:42,300 that these things that are depicted 172 00:07:42,433 --> 00:07:45,500 in these videos are truly unidentified aerial phenomenon. 173 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,834 - And we have to figure out what that is, all of us. 174 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:49,967 - [Narrator] Jim Semivan spent 25 years 175 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:52,600 working as an Operations Officer for the CIA. 176 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:56,667 - It's a fundamental issue for the intelligence community. 177 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,166 It's a fundamental issue for the FBI for heaven's sakes 178 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:01,200 and for DIA, for CIA. 179 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:05,200 - For them to have that level of ignorance is astonishing. 180 00:08:05,333 --> 00:08:07,800 - We have irrefutable evidence 181 00:08:07,934 --> 00:08:12,834 of an intelligently controlled vehicle defying science, 182 00:08:13,767 --> 00:08:15,200 something operating beyond 183 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:17,900 what we even thought was possible. 184 00:08:18,033 --> 00:08:20,400 - The Pentagon officially said that 185 00:08:20,533 --> 00:08:23,200 there was nothing else involving the USS Nimitz incident, 186 00:08:23,333 --> 00:08:24,800 nothing to see here, 187 00:08:24,934 --> 00:08:26,600 but there is indeed more information 188 00:08:26,734 --> 00:08:28,533 involving the Nimitz. 189 00:08:28,667 --> 00:08:29,900 I think that's a big deal. 190 00:08:31,433 --> 00:08:32,900 - [Narrator] The Pentagon says it has more evidence 191 00:08:33,033 --> 00:08:35,734 from the Nimitz encounter video and other data, 192 00:08:35,867 --> 00:08:39,300 but won't release it because of national security concerns. 193 00:08:39,433 --> 00:08:41,200 - You still have the Department of Defense 194 00:08:41,333 --> 00:08:42,900 to some degree dragging their feet. 195 00:08:43,033 --> 00:08:45,633 Just recently they acknowledged the fact that there were 196 00:08:45,767 --> 00:08:47,567 more videos in their possession, 197 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:50,033 and they also had some classified briefings 198 00:08:50,166 --> 00:08:53,467 that they were not going to release them to the public. 199 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,900 - It might be something like, 200 00:08:55,033 --> 00:08:59,367 "Okay, we have another picture of that same Tic Tac 201 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,133 "at the same location, but from a different system, 202 00:09:02,266 --> 00:09:03,934 "there was a classified system." 203 00:09:04,066 --> 00:09:06,133 - I think it's interesting because it shows 204 00:09:06,266 --> 00:09:09,367 that there's still segment within the US government 205 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:10,633 that is for some reason, 206 00:09:10,767 --> 00:09:14,533 hesitant or resistant to have the conversation. 207 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:17,700 (dramatic music) 208 00:09:17,834 --> 00:09:19,266 - [Narrator] The team is especially interested 209 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,233 in one branch of the armed forces. 210 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:23,367 - Does it didn't seem odd to you 211 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:25,300 that the Air Force hasn't spoken up? 212 00:09:25,433 --> 00:09:27,767 I'm quite puzzled. 213 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:29,300 - Chris has voiced that concern as well. 214 00:09:29,433 --> 00:09:31,967 Where the hell is the Air Force in this entire conversation? 215 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:35,266 I mean, we can only speculate why they're being quiet. 216 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,467 - [Narrator] Coming up on Unidentified. 217 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,600 For the first time a Navy eye witness 218 00:09:39,734 --> 00:09:42,467 claims Air Force officers dropped in on the Nimitz 219 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,467 and took with them key evidence. 220 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,934 - He asked for the hard drives that were on that plane 221 00:09:47,066 --> 00:09:47,934 and he stops me. 222 00:09:48,066 --> 00:09:50,133 He's like, "Just give him to me." 223 00:09:50,266 --> 00:09:52,800 - He brings this vision of Men In Black, showing up. 224 00:09:52,934 --> 00:09:55,967 - [Narrator] And the trail leads to a secretive location. 225 00:09:59,233 --> 00:10:00,100 - [Patrick] I mean, somebody out there 226 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:01,667 knows a lot more than we do. 227 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,100 (upbeat dramatic music) 228 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,266 - [Narrator] Lue Elizando has just her testimony 229 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,600 from a new eye witness to the 2004 Nimitz UFO encounter. 230 00:10:15,734 --> 00:10:17,700 Now he's digging deeper into allegations 231 00:10:17,834 --> 00:10:19,133 of a military coverup. 232 00:10:20,467 --> 00:10:21,200 - [Patrick] Howdy. 233 00:10:21,333 --> 00:10:22,066 - [Lue] Hey sir, how are you? 234 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,200 - Good, how are you? - Good. 235 00:10:23,333 --> 00:10:24,500 - [Lue] I'm Lue. - Nice to meet you. 236 00:10:24,633 --> 00:10:25,433 - [Lue] Thank you for allowing me 237 00:10:25,567 --> 00:10:26,533 to invade your house here. 238 00:10:26,667 --> 00:10:28,100 - [Patrick] Anytime. 239 00:10:28,233 --> 00:10:30,266 - [Lue] I'd love to know a little bit about yourself. 240 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,500 You were in the Navy? 241 00:10:31,633 --> 00:10:33,367 - Yes, sir, it was just under 11 years, 242 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,433 I was Navy Avionics Technician. 243 00:10:35,567 --> 00:10:36,934 Primarily on the E2 Hawkeye. 244 00:10:38,667 --> 00:10:40,867 - [Narrator] On November 14th, 2004, 245 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,767 F-18s from the USS Nimitz took off 246 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:45,800 on a routine training exercise. 247 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,433 - It was a workup cycle for our 2005 deployment. 248 00:10:49,567 --> 00:10:52,433 They were doing air defense exercises that day. 249 00:10:52,567 --> 00:10:53,667 The planes go out 250 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,700 and basically play laser tag with each other, 251 00:10:55,834 --> 00:10:57,700 a good guy versus bad guy enough 252 00:10:57,834 --> 00:10:59,100 to get their training back out. 253 00:10:59,233 --> 00:11:00,433 - [Narrator] Patrick Hughes' job 254 00:11:00,567 --> 00:11:02,600 power up in launching E2 Hawkeye 255 00:11:02,734 --> 00:11:04,567 the exercises airborne quarterback, 256 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:06,100 which will direct the jets maneuvers. 257 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:07,333 - We control the missions. 258 00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:09,066 We control pretty much everything that goes on 259 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,667 once those planes leave the carrier deck. 260 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,433 (whooshing) 261 00:11:12,567 --> 00:11:15,767 (upbeat dramatic music) 262 00:11:18,233 --> 00:11:20,233 - [Narrator] Shortly after the exercise began, 263 00:11:20,367 --> 00:11:23,100 radar technicians start tracking a strange object 264 00:11:23,233 --> 00:11:25,600 prompting the now-famous sequence of events, 265 00:11:25,734 --> 00:11:28,533 Commander Fravor, and his wing man intercept the object, 266 00:11:29,967 --> 00:11:32,934 but then it flies off appearing to travel hundreds of miles 267 00:11:33,066 --> 00:11:34,200 in the blink of an eye. 268 00:11:36,633 --> 00:11:40,066 While they E2 Hawkeye monitors, the action from a far. 269 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,433 Another FA team captures the incredible Tic Tac video. 270 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,700 (whooshing) 271 00:11:51,133 --> 00:11:52,500 After the Hawkeye lands, 272 00:11:52,633 --> 00:11:55,000 Hughes could tell something wasn't right. 273 00:11:55,133 --> 00:11:58,266 - Normally when the crew walked out of the airplane, 274 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,633 whoever the mission commander was will stop 275 00:12:00,767 --> 00:12:03,400 and let you know how the mission was, 276 00:12:03,533 --> 00:12:05,233 but they didn't stop to talk to anybody this time. 277 00:12:05,367 --> 00:12:07,667 They just bolted down below. 278 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:11,967 And no, thanks to talking to a crew like that 279 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:15,133 the actual Tic Tac object formed top of the Hawkeye 280 00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:19,233 and the five guys in that crew all saw real close. 281 00:12:19,367 --> 00:12:22,233 Wasn't for very long, but they all saw it. 282 00:12:22,367 --> 00:12:27,066 - I was not aware that people in the Hawkeye 283 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,233 actually had eyes down on the Tic Tac. 284 00:12:30,367 --> 00:12:31,900 It begs a question that at the time 285 00:12:32,033 --> 00:12:33,467 when I was at AATIP, 286 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,467 why wasn't that little bit of information shared with us? 287 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,100 Maybe it was a trust issue. 288 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,500 - [Narrator] The Hawkeye's alleged Tic Tac sighting 289 00:12:42,633 --> 00:12:44,233 might also have been kept secret 290 00:12:44,367 --> 00:12:46,667 because of the data captured by its sensors. 291 00:12:48,133 --> 00:12:49,567 - That plane, when it left the deck 292 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:52,000 was recording everything they saw on the screens, 293 00:12:52,133 --> 00:12:53,734 all the information, all the button touches, 294 00:12:53,867 --> 00:12:55,967 basically, everything they do. 295 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:57,834 And there's been some contention about that, 296 00:12:57,967 --> 00:12:59,467 but I know for a fact it was recording 297 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,033 'cause I hit the button 298 00:13:01,166 --> 00:13:02,567 and I turned it off when it got back. 299 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:05,400 - You specifically remember turning on 300 00:13:05,533 --> 00:13:07,233 that piece of equipment that day, 301 00:13:07,367 --> 00:13:09,367 and then again, upon recovery, turning it off? 302 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:10,200 - Correct. 303 00:13:10,333 --> 00:13:11,633 - That is interesting. 304 00:13:11,767 --> 00:13:13,200 - [Narrator] The plane's recordings 305 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:16,734 could contain key evidence of the Tic Tac's capabilities. 306 00:13:16,867 --> 00:13:18,567 - It sees what the Princeton saw. 307 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:19,700 It saw what the Nimitz saw. 308 00:13:19,834 --> 00:13:21,233 It saw some other stuff saw. 309 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:23,400 So it's recording a big picture 310 00:13:23,533 --> 00:13:24,867 of everything that's going on that day. 311 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,100 - Okay, interesting. 312 00:13:26,233 --> 00:13:27,734 - I do our post-flight checks on the airplane. 313 00:13:27,867 --> 00:13:30,033 Make sure everything's turned off, 314 00:13:30,166 --> 00:13:31,533 take all our classified hard drives out. 315 00:13:31,667 --> 00:13:32,734 We keep them in our safe. 316 00:13:32,867 --> 00:13:34,567 We don't leave those in the airplane. 317 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,867 And normally that's the end of it. 318 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,467 (upbeat dramatic music) 319 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,300 After I'd gotten back downstairs, 320 00:13:43,433 --> 00:13:47,133 my commanding officer comes to our workspace door. 321 00:13:47,266 --> 00:13:49,734 - [Narrator] But his commanding officer wasn't alone. 322 00:13:49,867 --> 00:13:51,967 - With them are two guys in the Air Force flight suits. 323 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:54,367 I don't remember their ranks but there's a 324 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:56,900 very big difference between a Navy flight suit 325 00:13:57,033 --> 00:13:58,967 and the insignia in an Air Force flight suit. 326 00:13:59,100 --> 00:14:00,266 - So you were confident 327 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,467 these were Air Force representatives. 328 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,633 - Yes, sir. 329 00:14:02,767 --> 00:14:03,967 - [Narrator] It seemed unusual to Hughes, 330 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:05,700 to encounter Air Force personnel 331 00:14:05,834 --> 00:14:07,767 who didn't identify themselves. 332 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:10,433 What happened next was even stranger. 333 00:14:10,567 --> 00:14:11,700 - [Patrick] He comes in, 334 00:14:11,834 --> 00:14:13,934 asks for the hard drives that were on that plane. 335 00:14:14,066 --> 00:14:16,033 So we go get them out 336 00:14:16,166 --> 00:14:18,133 and start logging them out in our little log book 337 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:19,367 and he stops me. 338 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:20,767 Just he's like, "Give them to me." 339 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:22,533 No-- - No hand receipt? 340 00:14:22,667 --> 00:14:24,467 - [Patrick] Nope, nothing. 341 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,967 - How much time transpired 342 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:30,800 from the time you retrieve those hard drives of the Hawkeye 343 00:14:30,934 --> 00:14:33,200 till the time that the CEO's knocking on your door 344 00:14:33,333 --> 00:14:34,633 with two Air Force people? 345 00:14:34,767 --> 00:14:37,133 - All in all, I'd say probably about a half-hour. 346 00:14:37,266 --> 00:14:38,867 - [Narrator] The Nimitz wasn't the only ship that day 347 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,033 from which data was taken. 348 00:14:41,166 --> 00:14:43,133 Chris Mellon previously heard a similar account 349 00:14:43,266 --> 00:14:46,467 from a radar technician on the nearby USS Princeton, 350 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,533 which had been tracking strange objects for days 351 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:49,734 before the encounter. 352 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,867 - A helicopter arrived, people got off the helicopter, 353 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,567 they came in and they requested all the data recording. 354 00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:01,433 And right after that, 355 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:05,934 I was requested to hand over the data recording tapes 356 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,100 and anything that wasn't recorded on during the event, 357 00:15:09,233 --> 00:15:10,667 I was to erase. 358 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,367 - How unusual was this request to destroy it, 359 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:14,533 erase this data? 360 00:15:14,667 --> 00:15:16,200 - It was completely unprecedented. 361 00:15:18,467 --> 00:15:20,867 - [Narrator] While both accounts suggest a possible coverup, 362 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Hughes story is a firsthand account 363 00:15:22,734 --> 00:15:24,867 of possible Air Force involvement. 364 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,600 But why would the Air Force confiscate Navy flight data 365 00:15:27,734 --> 00:15:29,100 of a UFO? 366 00:15:29,233 --> 00:15:31,767 - It brings this vision of the "men In black" showing up. 367 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:34,100 - There was obviously data and information 368 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:38,767 that was recorded on those E2 Hawkeyes that somebody wanted. 369 00:15:40,967 --> 00:15:42,333 - [Narrator] Tim McMillan is a journalist 370 00:15:42,467 --> 00:15:44,967 who spent months investigating the Nimitz incident. 371 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,533 - We can assume that it was taken somewhere to be analyzed. 372 00:15:49,667 --> 00:15:50,900 That's the big key, 373 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:52,934 because there's a significant amount of data there 374 00:15:53,066 --> 00:15:55,533 that should give us a lot more definitive conclusions 375 00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:56,934 about what this is. 376 00:15:57,967 --> 00:15:59,200 Now, if you consider that 377 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,100 with the aspect that 15 years later, 378 00:16:01,233 --> 00:16:03,767 they say, "It's unidentified," 379 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:06,233 that makes it even more intriguing. 380 00:16:06,367 --> 00:16:08,066 - [Narrator] Did the Air Force remove the data 381 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,767 because they wanted to study the unidentified object 382 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:12,400 or were they collecting information 383 00:16:12,533 --> 00:16:14,433 on their own top-secret creation? 384 00:16:14,567 --> 00:16:16,433 - It's equally possible that the Navy has no clue 385 00:16:16,567 --> 00:16:17,333 what it is. 386 00:16:17,467 --> 00:16:18,567 And it's an Air Force project 387 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,100 that they didn't tell the Navy about. 388 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:22,433 The left-hand does not always know 389 00:16:22,567 --> 00:16:24,266 what the right hand is doing. 390 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,266 - [Narrator] Hughes also believes there's a good reason 391 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,934 why they would test a top-secret craft on the Navy. 392 00:16:29,066 --> 00:16:31,333 - I have this new super technology I wanna test it out. 393 00:16:31,467 --> 00:16:33,934 I'm gonna throw it at the best we have. 394 00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:37,934 And the Nimitz strike group was pretty much the best we had. 395 00:16:38,066 --> 00:16:40,600 I mean, somebody out there knows a lot more than we do. 396 00:16:40,734 --> 00:16:44,166 They may have very, very good reason for not sharing it. 397 00:16:45,467 --> 00:16:46,600 (whooshing) 398 00:16:46,734 --> 00:16:49,000 - [Narrator] Coming up on Unidentified, 399 00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:51,567 pulling the curtain back on a top-secret project. 400 00:17:04,033 --> 00:17:05,500 - So I just kind monitor that, I watching them. 401 00:17:05,633 --> 00:17:06,700 And I was wondering, 402 00:17:06,834 --> 00:17:08,300 "How come no one's seen these darn things?" 403 00:17:08,433 --> 00:17:10,734 (whooshing) 404 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,166 - When I was in the Pentagon, 405 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,967 we only had a small shot in time 406 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:24,333 of what we referred to as the Nimitz incident. 407 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,066 But now more and more people are feeling enjoined 408 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,834 to come forward and say, "It wasn't just the four pilots 409 00:17:31,967 --> 00:17:34,133 "or a blip on a screen. 410 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:35,500 "And I saw something strange." 411 00:17:35,633 --> 00:17:37,834 (whooshing) 412 00:17:37,967 --> 00:17:39,233 - [Narrator] Lue Elizando has just heard 413 00:17:39,367 --> 00:17:41,166 from a former US Navy crewman 414 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:44,300 who says two mysterious Air Force officers showed up 415 00:17:44,433 --> 00:17:48,000 on the USS Nimitz after its famous Tic Tac UFO encounter 416 00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:51,333 and confiscated flight data that could prove its existence. 417 00:17:51,467 --> 00:17:52,867 The explosive theory, 418 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,133 Air Force officers wanted to see how the Tic Tac performed 419 00:17:56,266 --> 00:17:57,500 because the Tic Tac 420 00:17:57,633 --> 00:18:00,567 was actually a top-secret Air Force craft. 421 00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:03,367 Following that lead Elizando speaks with man 422 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:06,300 who worked at the most secretive Air Force facility of all. 423 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:07,734 - Hello, sir, Mr. Barnes. 424 00:18:07,867 --> 00:18:10,233 - Yes, how're you doing today? 425 00:18:10,367 --> 00:18:13,133 - [Narrator] T.D. Barnes is a former CIA engineer 426 00:18:13,266 --> 00:18:14,633 who spent most of his career working 427 00:18:14,767 --> 00:18:18,133 on classified technology often at area 51. 428 00:18:18,266 --> 00:18:19,633 60 years later, 429 00:18:19,767 --> 00:18:22,033 Barnes is willing to speak for the first time on camera, 430 00:18:22,166 --> 00:18:24,867 about the electronic warfare systems he created 431 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,567 and their possible connection to the Nimitz event. 432 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:30,033 - I think Nimitz is interesting 433 00:18:30,166 --> 00:18:33,133 because so many people saw the same thing 434 00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:35,533 that whether or not it was a real event, 435 00:18:35,667 --> 00:18:37,633 I think that's beyond question. 436 00:18:37,767 --> 00:18:39,567 The question is what was it? 437 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:43,200 And if it was some sort of electronic warfare capability, 438 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:46,033 fine, but then that information didn't get 439 00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:47,000 to the right people. 440 00:18:56,934 --> 00:18:58,467 You know that's, that's something... 441 00:19:06,433 --> 00:19:08,533 (whooshing) 442 00:19:08,667 --> 00:19:10,367 - [Narrator] One of the programs Barnes worked on 443 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:12,100 was called project Palladium. 444 00:19:12,233 --> 00:19:14,800 The cold war technology used electronic signals 445 00:19:14,934 --> 00:19:17,300 to trick the Soviets into seeing whole squadrons 446 00:19:17,433 --> 00:19:18,700 that weren't there. 447 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:36,033 - [Narrator] To Elizando, this sounds eerily familiar. 448 00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:39,300 Radar operator, Kevin Day previously told Elizando 449 00:19:39,433 --> 00:19:41,700 he tracked a group of strange aircraft 450 00:19:41,834 --> 00:19:43,700 in the days leading up to the Nimitz event. 451 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:47,800 - I started noticing these anomalous contacts on our radar. 452 00:19:47,934 --> 00:19:50,233 There was like 10 or 12 objects 453 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,700 and it was kind of watching them on display. 454 00:19:52,834 --> 00:19:55,266 It was like watching the snowfall in the sky. 455 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,600 - [Narrator] The objects were seen on Day's radar, 456 00:19:57,734 --> 00:19:59,266 but seemingly nowhere else. 457 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,934 - So I just kind of monitor that, watching them. 458 00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:02,367 And I was wondering, 459 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:03,967 "How come no one's seeing these darn things?" 460 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:05,700 - [Narrator] Could, what Day saw be phantoms 461 00:20:05,834 --> 00:20:08,033 caused by radar spoofing technology 462 00:20:08,166 --> 00:20:10,433 and what accounts for the Tic Tac object 463 00:20:10,567 --> 00:20:12,467 seen by Nimitz pilots up close? 464 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,567 (whooshing) 465 00:20:19,934 --> 00:20:21,700 - [Narrator] Palladium used metallic balloons 466 00:20:21,834 --> 00:20:23,266 to reflect radar signals. 467 00:20:32,834 --> 00:20:35,800 - I'm kind of curious from your perspective, 468 00:20:35,934 --> 00:20:37,133 going back to the Tic Tac 469 00:20:37,266 --> 00:20:40,133 and these balloons that were part of Palladium, 470 00:20:40,266 --> 00:20:41,967 if, is it possible that the balloons, 471 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:44,433 not only were you testing different size balloons, 472 00:20:44,567 --> 00:20:46,867 but maybe even different shapes of balloons? 473 00:20:49,266 --> 00:20:50,033 - That's fascinating. 474 00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:52,367 So from your perspective, 475 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:55,767 the incident that occurred here in 2004 476 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,533 may be some sort of US technology. 477 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:05,433 - [Narrator] This raises a troubling question, 478 00:21:05,567 --> 00:21:08,100 would the Air Force test top-secret technology 479 00:21:08,233 --> 00:21:10,600 on Navy pilots without their knowledge? 480 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,700 - Right. 481 00:21:29,233 --> 00:21:30,667 - [Narrator] One theory, is what the Nimitz pilots saw 482 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,867 was related to a 21st-century version 483 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,266 of what T.D. Barnes developed for the Air Force. 484 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,433 Tim McMillan spent months investigating 485 00:21:37,567 --> 00:21:40,600 if any known technologies might explain the Tic Tac. 486 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:44,333 - Early 2004-ish, funding has jumped up. 487 00:21:44,467 --> 00:21:46,533 Technologies are being boosted. 488 00:21:46,667 --> 00:21:50,266 A lot of the older subs were being retrofitted 489 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,600 whether, some of the missile tubes are being altered 490 00:21:53,734 --> 00:21:55,367 for it to launch drones. 491 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:56,767 - [Narrator] A submarine launch drone 492 00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:58,700 could potentially explain another detail 493 00:21:58,834 --> 00:22:00,266 from the Nimitz sighting. 494 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,734 - One of the fascinating things with the 2004 incident 495 00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:05,066 was this frothy whitewash. 496 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,333 - [Narrator] The pilots who first encountered the Tic Tac 497 00:22:07,467 --> 00:22:09,834 reported seeing it hovering over disturbance in the ocean. 498 00:22:09,967 --> 00:22:10,767 (indistinct chatter) 499 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:12,233 - We all very quickly realized 500 00:22:12,367 --> 00:22:14,233 that there was something in the water, 501 00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:16,333 churning like boiling. 502 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:20,900 One of my theories was that a submarine 503 00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:28,000 that surfaced launched something and was re-submerging. 504 00:22:28,133 --> 00:22:30,266 - [Narrator] McMillan believes he found enticing clues 505 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,333 to the Tic Tacs possible origins, 506 00:22:32,467 --> 00:22:33,767 but nothing that can explain 507 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:35,934 its incredible flight characteristics. 508 00:22:36,066 --> 00:22:38,600 And what about the objects caught on tape by pilots 509 00:22:38,734 --> 00:22:41,000 from a USS Roosevelt 10 years later? 510 00:22:43,066 --> 00:22:44,600 - [Narrator] McMillan thinks those sightings 511 00:22:44,734 --> 00:22:48,767 could be related to a more recent program known as Nemesis. 512 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:52,934 - Nemesis is a fascinating technology we know exist. 513 00:22:53,066 --> 00:22:55,166 Very similar to Palladium. 514 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:57,834 They're injecting multiple false targets 515 00:22:57,967 --> 00:23:02,333 and the idea is that you've got one plane, 516 00:23:02,467 --> 00:23:04,333 we wanna make it look like 50 517 00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:06,400 in hopes that they're not gonna pick out the right one. 518 00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:08,066 - [Narrator] Nemesis was originally developed 519 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,567 by the Navy and use the swarms of drones 520 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,800 that emit signals to fool enemy radar. 521 00:23:12,934 --> 00:23:14,400 - [Pilot] Look at that thing dude! 522 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:19,834 - There's some very close timeframes 523 00:23:19,967 --> 00:23:22,734 in terms of when the Nemesis system was being tested. 524 00:23:22,867 --> 00:23:26,500 And when these pilots during the Roosevelt encounter 525 00:23:26,633 --> 00:23:27,967 said that they observed the objects. 526 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:29,400 - [Narrator] Could this technology 527 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:32,400 or a similar system account for what F-18 pilots 528 00:23:32,533 --> 00:23:34,734 from the USS Roosevelt say they witnessed 529 00:23:34,867 --> 00:23:37,066 on their target tracking screens? 530 00:23:40,266 --> 00:23:41,734 - [Second Pilot] My gosh. 531 00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:43,734 - [Narrator] But what about the objects 532 00:23:43,867 --> 00:23:46,800 other pilots reported seeing up close? 533 00:23:46,934 --> 00:23:49,300 - It was basically a cube inside of sphere 534 00:23:49,433 --> 00:23:52,667 where the points of the cube were touching outside 535 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,834 of the sphere. 536 00:23:53,967 --> 00:23:54,834 - [Narrator] McMillan believes the cubes 537 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:56,066 might have a simple explanation. 538 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,633 - In the few visual observations, 539 00:23:58,767 --> 00:23:59,900 at least that at I'm aware of, 540 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:02,567 with the cubes inside of spheres type thing 541 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:06,633 that sounds consistent with a radar reflectors. 542 00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:08,300 - [Narrator] But Chris Mellon believes few, 543 00:24:08,433 --> 00:24:10,533 if any of these sightings can be explained 544 00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:12,100 by current US technology. 545 00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:15,300 - I've been out of the Defense Department for quite a while, 546 00:24:15,433 --> 00:24:19,033 electronic warfare was old then, it's even older now. 547 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:22,734 It's a never-ending game of cat and mouse. 548 00:24:22,867 --> 00:24:25,133 However, it's not an explanation 549 00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:28,166 for what happened in the Nimitz incident 550 00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:32,633 or what was happening in 2015 off the East coast. 551 00:24:32,767 --> 00:24:35,066 That's what we need to remind people. 552 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,066 It has very little to do with the UAP phenomenon. 553 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:42,066 - [Narrator] And for Mellon, the Navy's public statement 554 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,233 that pilots are encountering unidentified aerial phenomenon 555 00:24:45,367 --> 00:24:47,233 is proof positive that what they're seeing 556 00:24:47,367 --> 00:24:51,233 is not US technology from the Air Force or anyone else. 557 00:24:51,367 --> 00:24:53,700 - [Chris] It's really a stretch for people 558 00:24:53,834 --> 00:24:55,400 to try to suggest these incidents 559 00:24:55,533 --> 00:24:58,734 it could be explained by some secret program. 560 00:24:58,867 --> 00:25:01,467 It was being used against our own people 561 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,700 behind the backs of Congress 562 00:25:03,834 --> 00:25:05,200 who are briefed for all these programs, 563 00:25:05,333 --> 00:25:07,967 the military wouldn't be going up to Capitol Hill 564 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,367 saying publicly, these are not ours 565 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:13,133 if in fact, it was electronic warfare program 566 00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:14,567 that wouldn't be happening. 567 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,633 - [Narrator] But even if Navy personnel were guinea pigs 568 00:25:17,767 --> 00:25:19,133 in the top-secret test, 569 00:25:19,266 --> 00:25:21,033 what can explain this next sight? 570 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Coming up on Unidentified. 571 00:25:30,934 --> 00:25:31,967 - [Narrator] A confidential source 572 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,200 describes a terrifying UFO encounter. 573 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,133 He says the military tried to bury. 574 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:42,800 (dramatic music) 575 00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:47,633 (ocean breeze blows) 576 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:51,233 - [Narrator] Lue Elizando has uncovered information 577 00:25:51,367 --> 00:25:54,467 that the UFO seen by the Nimitz pilots could be related 578 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,767 to U.S. Air Force tests, but not everyone believes it. 579 00:25:58,967 --> 00:26:01,233 He's been contacted by a new witness 580 00:26:01,367 --> 00:26:03,900 about an incident involving a military helicopter. 581 00:26:21,867 --> 00:26:23,233 - [Narrator] This Defense Department Investigator 582 00:26:23,367 --> 00:26:25,233 asked to have his identity protected. 583 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:30,000 He says he personally investigated the UFO encounter. 584 00:26:43,934 --> 00:26:45,033 - [Narrator] He won't reveal 585 00:26:45,166 --> 00:26:46,567 the exact location of the incident. 586 00:27:08,266 --> 00:27:09,867 (helicopter chuffing) 587 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,967 - [Narrator] The pilots we're testing 588 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:12,800 brand new attack helicopters 589 00:27:12,934 --> 00:27:15,133 when one witnessed something unexplained. 590 00:28:10,133 --> 00:28:14,200 - [Lue] He associated those lights as being somehow 591 00:28:14,333 --> 00:28:16,934 correlated to the event that occurred 592 00:28:17,066 --> 00:28:19,667 and then only when those things were gone, 593 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:27,500 did the helicopter behave normally, is that correct? 594 00:28:27,633 --> 00:28:29,500 - [Narrator] Elizando says it's also not the first time 595 00:28:29,633 --> 00:28:31,266 he's heard of unidentified objects 596 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,767 exhibiting this behavior. 597 00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:36,667 - [Lue] From personal experience I'm aware of the relevance 598 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,533 that some of these UAP have 599 00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:43,200 regarding our national security assets and equities. 600 00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:44,867 Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to go 601 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,600 into a whole lot of detail on that 602 00:28:46,734 --> 00:28:50,600 but what I can say is that this is nothing new 603 00:28:50,734 --> 00:28:54,166 and I'm not surprised at all to hear that there was 604 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,533 you know, three points of light that seemed to be flying 605 00:28:57,667 --> 00:29:00,333 in a consistent formation and pattern. 606 00:29:00,467 --> 00:29:03,600 (helicopter chuffing) 607 00:29:05,467 --> 00:29:06,333 - [Narrator] The investigator says 608 00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:08,433 he reported it to his superiors 609 00:29:08,567 --> 00:29:11,166 and the committee was formed to dig further. 610 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:13,266 He says they uncovered at least seven other 611 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,333 similar incidents involving helicopters and orbs, 612 00:29:16,467 --> 00:29:18,266 but he was shocked at their conclusion. 613 00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:32,333 - After this event occurred you learn that 614 00:29:32,467 --> 00:29:36,934 there was actually other reports of similar type activity 615 00:29:37,066 --> 00:29:40,433 occurring perhaps seven or eight other times 616 00:29:40,567 --> 00:29:44,100 to the point where they actually established a committee, 617 00:29:44,233 --> 00:29:47,000 an internal committee to try to figure this out 618 00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:49,834 and only when they didn't have any answers 619 00:29:49,967 --> 00:29:52,000 did they wind up scratching their head, closing the books 620 00:29:52,133 --> 00:29:54,700 and say, well, nothing to see here folks. 621 00:30:07,734 --> 00:30:09,667 - [Narrator] Why wouldn't the military keep probing? 622 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,934 Were they hiding another test of a top secret 623 00:30:12,066 --> 00:30:13,433 electronic countermeasure? 624 00:30:13,567 --> 00:30:15,667 Or is it evidence of an unknown technology 625 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,767 the government doesn't want to acknowledge 626 00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:19,934 because it doesn't understand it. 627 00:30:20,066 --> 00:30:23,166 - [Lue] You now have pilots flying helicopters 628 00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,100 and now coming into contact with these, 629 00:30:25,233 --> 00:30:27,600 we'll call them orbs, if you will 630 00:30:27,734 --> 00:30:30,166 and all of a sudden now there's a correlation 631 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:33,934 between these orbs and equipment failure. 632 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,433 You could have an issue 633 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:38,433 where you potentially could collide with one of the things 634 00:30:38,567 --> 00:30:41,600 - There is something occurring, there are transgressions 635 00:30:41,734 --> 00:30:44,233 of restricted military airspace 636 00:30:44,367 --> 00:30:46,433 and of U.S. borders that are going on 637 00:30:46,567 --> 00:30:49,233 that our own military has acknowledged publicly. 638 00:30:49,367 --> 00:30:52,266 They wouldn't be saying that if they own the very programs 639 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,100 that were causing those sightings. 640 00:30:54,233 --> 00:30:56,734 - [Narrator] Coming up, Elizando searches for answers 641 00:30:56,867 --> 00:30:59,233 from one of the original UFO insiders. 642 00:30:59,367 --> 00:31:02,667 - We're moving away from the allegory of tinfoil hats 643 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000 and Elvis on the mothership to no kidding 644 00:31:06,133 --> 00:31:07,567 there's something there. 645 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,734 - Well, there's absolutely no doubt on the physical reality 646 00:31:10,867 --> 00:31:11,900 of some UFOs. 647 00:31:12,033 --> 00:31:15,333 (electronic logo music) 648 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,800 sic) 649 00:31:20,734 --> 00:31:22,000 - [Narrator] In the wake of reports 650 00:31:22,133 --> 00:31:24,100 that the Pentagon may have covered up UFO sightings 651 00:31:24,233 --> 00:31:27,200 by the U.S. Navy and didn't pursue reports of orbs 652 00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:29,367 seen from a U.S. army helicopter, 653 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,433 Lue Elizando gets guidance from a man he trusts, 654 00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:33,934 a man who has been seeking the truth 655 00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:37,600 about what the government knows about UFOs for years. 656 00:31:37,734 --> 00:31:39,433 - Colonel John Alexander was a godfather 657 00:31:39,567 --> 00:31:42,266 of everything spooky and weird at the Pentagon. 658 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,533 - Lue. 659 00:31:43,667 --> 00:31:44,600 - Great to see you my friend, how are you? 660 00:31:44,734 --> 00:31:45,900 - Good, good. 661 00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:47,700 - [Lue] John Alexander ran a lot of the programs 662 00:31:47,834 --> 00:31:50,700 at the U.S. government pretended like we didn't have. 663 00:31:51,734 --> 00:31:52,867 John, thank you very much 664 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,667 for allowing me to come into your home, 665 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,934 this is for me a great honor and privilege. 666 00:31:57,066 --> 00:31:58,867 First and foremost, you're a legend, 667 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,400 I knew about you, whether you knew it or not 668 00:32:01,533 --> 00:32:02,734 - Mmm-hmm. 669 00:32:02,867 --> 00:32:05,867 a long time ago, I knew a little bit about your, 670 00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:09,166 how shall we say, adventures. 671 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,867 - Adventures yes. 672 00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,100 - [Narrator] In the 1980s, Alexander studied 673 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:15,166 the paranormal for the U.S. military. 674 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:16,734 - What was the name of your program at the time? 675 00:32:16,867 --> 00:32:18,266 Did you have a name for it? 676 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,767 - We called it "Intentionally Advanced Theoretical Physics" 677 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,233 and we did that because UFOer at that time 678 00:32:25,367 --> 00:32:27,600 was just becoming a hot issue 679 00:32:27,734 --> 00:32:31,333 and we figured that, people may ask for UFO data 680 00:32:31,467 --> 00:32:34,000 but they're not likely to ask for data 681 00:32:34,133 --> 00:32:36,667 on Advanced Theoretical Physics. 682 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,233 - So John, is there any advice you can give me 683 00:32:41,367 --> 00:32:44,266 as to where I should go from here? 684 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,767 What I should do? 685 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:48,333 And potentially what I need to watch out for? 686 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,266 - Well, I think you've probably 687 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,066 stepped on many of the mines already. 688 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,734 In fact, the reason that you're in the civilian sector 689 00:32:56,867 --> 00:32:57,667 is part of that. 690 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,567 - (laughing) Very true. 691 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,967 - The biggest thing that has to happen and is happening 692 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:07,834 and I think your T-piece of this is getting information 693 00:33:07,967 --> 00:33:11,467 and making it acceptable in the civilian sector, 694 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,834 that's what they're really afraid of. 695 00:33:13,967 --> 00:33:17,000 I do suspect you're gonna get blow back 696 00:33:17,133 --> 00:33:21,066 there are gonna be people who come in and say, you know, 697 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,734 these are just aerial phenomena that are explainable, 698 00:33:24,867 --> 00:33:27,000 but when you get done with all of the cases, 699 00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:32,000 you end up with a core set that simply cannot be explained 700 00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:34,333 by any traditional means. 701 00:33:34,467 --> 00:33:38,000 - We're moving away from the allegory of tinfoil hats 702 00:33:38,133 --> 00:33:42,000 and you know, Elvis on the mothership to no kidding, 703 00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:44,834 there's something there, these things are real. 704 00:33:44,967 --> 00:33:48,500 (jet engine roars) 705 00:33:48,633 --> 00:33:49,967 - [Narrator] Elizando questions why 706 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:53,233 the military still won't release everything it knows. 707 00:33:53,367 --> 00:33:56,133 - We don't like things we can't explain 708 00:33:56,266 --> 00:33:58,166 and that's one of the reasons for classifying 709 00:33:58,300 --> 00:33:59,500 some of the stuff 710 00:33:59,633 --> 00:34:01,567 you just don't wanna be potentially embarrassed. 711 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,567 We have, as you know, hundreds of thousands 712 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:09,400 of these kinds of incidents that have been recorded, 713 00:34:09,533 --> 00:34:12,800 it's much easier to just discard the data 714 00:34:12,934 --> 00:34:14,900 and unfortunately, terrible thing 715 00:34:15,033 --> 00:34:17,567 that we have done that for decades. 716 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:19,066 - [Narrator] Some experts claim 717 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,133 that the military isn't covering up information about UFOs, 718 00:34:22,266 --> 00:34:24,400 but is actually feeding the UFO myth 719 00:34:24,533 --> 00:34:26,166 to hide secret programs. 720 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,400 - If you've got an aerial platform that is highly advanced 721 00:34:30,533 --> 00:34:33,867 and the public who happens to get, you know, 722 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,734 get a glimpse of the thing from time to time, 723 00:34:35,867 --> 00:34:37,633 if they're convinced that it's from Venus 724 00:34:37,767 --> 00:34:39,467 and there's no way it could be our military 725 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400 well, hey, you know, that's awesome, hell yes. 726 00:34:42,533 --> 00:34:44,700 - [Narrator] Walter Boseley was an agent with the Air Forces 727 00:34:44,834 --> 00:34:47,533 Secretive Office of Special Investigations. 728 00:34:47,667 --> 00:34:49,734 - [Walter] If I'm the agent or running the protection 729 00:34:49,867 --> 00:34:51,233 for that particular program 730 00:34:51,367 --> 00:34:53,734 and that's helping me cover something for years, 731 00:34:53,867 --> 00:34:55,834 I might even feed the fire. 732 00:34:59,934 --> 00:35:01,133 - [Narrator] Bill Scott is a former 733 00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:03,467 Air Force Flight Test Engineer and editor 734 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,533 at Aviation Week magazine. 735 00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:09,367 He claims a high ranking officer at area 51 admitted to him 736 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:11,200 how the military used the media 737 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:13,800 to spread disinformation about UFOs. 738 00:35:13,934 --> 00:35:16,767 - Some of the people that I would approach 739 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,300 would give me clues, 740 00:35:18,433 --> 00:35:20,800 one of the more intriguing responses that I got was, 741 00:35:20,934 --> 00:35:23,533 "well, if you really wanna know what's going on, 742 00:35:23,667 --> 00:35:25,967 read the rags at the supermarket checkout". 743 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,867 Now like the Enquirer and The Globe and all these things. 744 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,200 I said, you gotta be kidding me, 745 00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:32,367 he said "when you see a picture of Bill Clinton 746 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,867 standing there in front of one of these black airplanes 747 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,300 with his arm around the alien being" 748 00:35:40,433 --> 00:35:42,533 he said, "forget what's in front 749 00:35:42,667 --> 00:35:44,934 and look what's behind", I said, come on. 750 00:35:45,066 --> 00:35:46,800 So what you're really telling me 751 00:35:46,934 --> 00:35:51,467 is that in order to hide real highly classified stuff 752 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,867 is that you basically paint it with the UFO brush 753 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200 and I said why would you do that? 754 00:35:58,333 --> 00:36:00,433 And he said "to keep people like you 755 00:36:00,567 --> 00:36:02,533 from looking any farther". 756 00:36:02,667 --> 00:36:04,667 I said, come on, does it really work? 757 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,033 he said "it worked for 50 years why would we change now?" 758 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,033 - [Narrator] For decades, the National Enquirer 759 00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:13,600 and Weekly World News were published by Generoso Pope Jr. 760 00:36:13,734 --> 00:36:15,500 Who pushed the papers sensational stories 761 00:36:15,633 --> 00:36:17,433 about UFOs and aliens. 762 00:36:17,567 --> 00:36:19,667 Pope's job just before taking over, 763 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,700 Psychological Warfare Officer for the CIA. 764 00:36:26,567 --> 00:36:27,700 Author, Mark Pilkington 765 00:36:27,834 --> 00:36:29,367 believes the Nimitz and Roosevelt cases 766 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:32,767 are part of this long history of media manipulation. 767 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,033 - It's about perception management, 768 00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:38,934 the technologies exist, 769 00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:41,934 that may not explain precisely what was seen 770 00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:45,700 but our analogist to the things that are seen. 771 00:36:45,834 --> 00:36:48,934 Nemesis combines, swarms of drones 772 00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:52,834 with complex multi-system countermeasures 773 00:36:52,967 --> 00:36:56,533 that are simultaneously operating against aircraft, 774 00:36:56,667 --> 00:36:59,533 satellite systems, ship based systems. 775 00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:03,400 Certainly these would have been something that was outside 776 00:37:03,533 --> 00:37:07,233 the sphere of familiarity for the pilots involved 777 00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:11,200 and could certainly have led to you know, confusion, 778 00:37:12,633 --> 00:37:14,233 - [Narrator] Elizando doubts evidence of the Tic Tac 779 00:37:14,367 --> 00:37:16,333 is part of a disinformation campaign 780 00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:18,834 meant to cover up a classified program. 781 00:37:18,967 --> 00:37:23,767 - Could the Nimitz incident and other UAP related incidents 782 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:29,033 possibly involve some sort of super secret U.S. technology? 783 00:37:29,367 --> 00:37:30,433 Is it possible? 784 00:37:30,567 --> 00:37:32,567 It's absolutely possible, is a plausible? 785 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:35,934 No, it's not plausible and the reason why I say that 786 00:37:36,066 --> 00:37:39,600 is because at the time I had one of the highest levels 787 00:37:39,734 --> 00:37:41,433 of security clearance in the U.S. government 788 00:37:41,567 --> 00:37:44,000 and I was briefing people who were read onto 789 00:37:44,133 --> 00:37:45,400 just about anything and everything 790 00:37:45,533 --> 00:37:47,066 in the U.S. government. 791 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,233 - [Chris] There's no reason to believe that the Air Force 792 00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:55,734 is today seeking to promote confusion between UAPs 793 00:37:55,867 --> 00:37:59,266 and classified Air Force programs, 794 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,000 or using the UAP phenomenon as a cover 795 00:38:02,133 --> 00:38:03,734 for Air Force programs. 796 00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:05,834 - [Narrator] Coming up on unidentified. 797 00:38:06,934 --> 00:38:09,800 - [ Chris] There is a profound mystery here, 798 00:38:09,934 --> 00:38:11,300 are we alone in the universe? 799 00:38:11,433 --> 00:38:14,834 And we may be the first generation 800 00:38:14,967 --> 00:38:17,834 in the history of our species that can answer this question. 801 00:38:17,967 --> 00:38:24,333 (dramatic music) 802 00:38:27,867 --> 00:38:29,500 - [Narrator] Lue Elizando has been investigating 803 00:38:29,633 --> 00:38:30,900 what the military might be hiding 804 00:38:31,033 --> 00:38:33,567 about recent UFO encounters. 805 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:36,500 Could the objects be Air Force top secret craft 806 00:38:36,633 --> 00:38:39,934 tested unwittingly on other branches of the military 807 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,233 or is the truth more fantastic? 808 00:38:43,367 --> 00:38:45,000 - This is something that we need to figure out 809 00:38:45,133 --> 00:38:46,667 if this is a flight safety issue 810 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,500 or a potential that I will reiterate potential threat 811 00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:53,734 to national security, then we need to know about it. 812 00:38:56,767 --> 00:38:58,734 - [Narrator] The team reconvenes in hopes of putting 813 00:38:58,867 --> 00:39:00,400 together the pieces of the puzzle. 814 00:39:00,533 --> 00:39:02,867 - So, gents I appreciate you guys taking a few moments 815 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,867 to sit with me this afternoon. 816 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400 - [Narrator] They begin by discussing 817 00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:08,734 whether these unidentified objects could be explained 818 00:39:08,867 --> 00:39:10,734 by radar spoofing technology. 819 00:39:10,867 --> 00:39:12,800 - There's always been efforts since time began 820 00:39:12,934 --> 00:39:15,700 and man has been at war to deceive the enemy 821 00:39:15,834 --> 00:39:17,700 and you know, there are all sorts of ways 822 00:39:17,834 --> 00:39:19,867 to deceive the enemy, you know, back in world war II, 823 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,967 we had light deception, so you know... 824 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,633 - You had something called Window 825 00:39:23,767 --> 00:39:28,400 which we now know is chaff to screw up radars 826 00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:29,567 you know what I mean? 827 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,066 It just filled radars with images. 828 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,033 - But I think when we come up with programs 829 00:39:33,166 --> 00:39:34,266 to deceive the enemy 830 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,533 and they come up with programs to deceive us, 831 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:39,700 it's usually in one particular domain. 832 00:39:39,834 --> 00:39:44,800 So it's to spoof radar or is to trick this or to trick that. 833 00:39:46,266 --> 00:39:50,200 - Since we attack, you know, sensors kind of one at a time 834 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:53,567 when you have a multispectral confirmation, 835 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,533 radar, infrared, visual, 836 00:39:56,667 --> 00:40:00,533 the odds of something spoofing the same in all those domains 837 00:40:00,667 --> 00:40:01,734 is pretty low. 838 00:40:01,867 --> 00:40:03,400 - Radar spoofing doesn't give you a visual. 839 00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:05,233 - And radar just displays on your console 840 00:40:05,367 --> 00:40:06,967 it doesn't create anything out of the cockpit. 841 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:07,967 You wouldn't see that. 842 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,633 - You wouldn't see that. 843 00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:11,400 - There wouldn't be a Tic Tac out there flying around. 844 00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:12,734 - [Tom] It's decption. 845 00:40:12,867 --> 00:40:14,200 - [Narrator] The team doesn't believe the objects 846 00:40:14,333 --> 00:40:15,834 are related to radar spoofing, 847 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,700 but could they be some other advanced technology 848 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:22,967 being tested by the Air Force on Navy pilots? 849 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,734 - If you're talking about conducting tests 850 00:40:25,867 --> 00:40:29,133 with a carrier battle group, you're not blindsiding 851 00:40:29,266 --> 00:40:31,066 the commander of the carrier battle group. 852 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,900 There's multimillion dollar aircraft 853 00:40:34,033 --> 00:40:36,300 and safety and lives at stake, 854 00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:38,967 you're not using these people like guinnea pigs. 855 00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:42,367 - You don't wanna test something super classified 856 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:43,633 and in front of a bunch of people 857 00:40:43,767 --> 00:40:45,066 that are not read onto a program 858 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,233 and all of a sudden are now talking about this thing 859 00:40:47,367 --> 00:40:49,367 in the open saying, what the hell is that? 860 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,400 I mean, that's not a great way to keep up secret. 861 00:40:51,533 --> 00:40:53,367 - Correct, all those radar operators 862 00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:54,900 going talking about what happened 863 00:40:55,033 --> 00:40:56,133 that's not what you want 864 00:40:56,266 --> 00:40:57,900 if you were trying to protect that capability. 865 00:40:58,033 --> 00:41:00,467 - [Narrator] If the objects aren't top secret technology 866 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,533 the government wants to keep hidden, then what are they? 867 00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:07,633 - If we ask ourselves, if someone else has made 868 00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:11,867 a fundamental, radical technological breakthrough, 869 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,633 how would that appear to us? 870 00:41:13,767 --> 00:41:14,633 What might that look like? - [Lue] Right. 871 00:41:14,767 --> 00:41:16,633 It would look like magic. 872 00:41:16,767 --> 00:41:19,066 - It would be magic, witchcraft - It would look like magic. 873 00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:24,767 - [Chris] It is baffling to a degree that is almost magical, 874 00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,967 how could you possibly have a sphere safe object 875 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,867 with a cubic side that goes at supersonic speeds 876 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,033 could loiter all day or a Tic Tac 877 00:41:33,166 --> 00:41:35,633 that could descend from 80,000 feet to 50 feet 878 00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:38,767 and then shoot off at insane speeds 879 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:41,367 that would tear apart anything that ever built by man, 880 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,967 and then come to a complete hover, right? 881 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,867 It's so what we're seeing really looks a lot like 882 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,633 what you might expect to see 883 00:41:48,767 --> 00:41:52,300 if somebody had had a fundamental breakthrough 884 00:41:52,433 --> 00:41:55,533 that leapfrog, it's far far ahead of anything 885 00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:56,867 that we've devised, 886 00:41:58,433 --> 00:42:00,100 - [Narrator] The team believes the mounting evidence 887 00:42:00,233 --> 00:42:03,100 proves these incidents are not U.S. military tests 888 00:42:03,233 --> 00:42:06,200 and are possibly something all together extraordinary. 889 00:42:06,333 --> 00:42:07,367 - I don't (mumbling) 890 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:09,767 - We're very confident these are not 891 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,200 some form of experimental U.S. aircraft 892 00:42:12,333 --> 00:42:14,934 because of the position the Navy's taken 893 00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:17,000 but also the fact that these vehicles 894 00:42:17,133 --> 00:42:20,333 are operating in such close proximity to Navy fighters 895 00:42:20,467 --> 00:42:22,333 and carrier battle groups. 896 00:42:22,467 --> 00:42:25,367 There is a profound mystery here, 897 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:26,867 are we alone in the universe? 898 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600 And we may be the first generation 899 00:42:29,734 --> 00:42:33,934 in the history of our species that can answer this question 900 00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:35,700 and do so definitively 901 00:42:35,834 --> 00:42:38,200 and getting the answer to this mystery 902 00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:41,333 motivates me to no end, whatever it takes, 903 00:42:41,467 --> 00:42:43,600 to try to answer that question. 904 00:42:43,734 --> 00:42:45,867 - We always wanna have a nice, neat little bow on things 905 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,367 and say, well, it's gotta be then extraterrestrial, 906 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,767 but you know, there's a lot of other options. 907 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,600 It could actually be a combination of both U.S. 908 00:42:54,734 --> 00:42:57,433 and adversarial, it could be that it's extraterrestrial. 909 00:42:57,567 --> 00:43:00,500 There's an entire universe of physics 910 00:43:00,633 --> 00:43:02,433 that we're just now beginning to unlock 911 00:43:02,567 --> 00:43:04,600 and understand, maybe there's options 912 00:43:04,734 --> 00:43:06,767 that we've never even considered before. 913 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,600 Simply because we don't have the technology 914 00:43:08,734 --> 00:43:10,600 or the science yet, or the understanding 915 00:43:10,734 --> 00:43:12,600 to even ask the right question. 72990

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