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alert under war plan bravo.n
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- [Narrator] Tonight
on "Unidentified."
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- [David] The hair on the
back of my neck stood up.
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- It shot straight
up and was gone.
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- [Narrator] The team
investigates the link
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between UFO sightings and
nuclear installations.
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- [Chris] These vehicles were
hovering directly above
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the nuclear weapons facilities
and nuclear missile silos.
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- They were there scoping
out our capabilities.
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- [Daniel] These weapons systems
had been shut off line.
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That's a terrifying capability.
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- [Man] There is a definitive
link to nuclear technology.
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The question is why.
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- These things don't seem
to obey the laws of physics.
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They're sure as hell not gonna
obey the laws of politics.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Narrator] Everything we
know about UFOs is changing.
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Thanks to a team led by former
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Pentagon UFO investigator,
Lue Elizondo.
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- That is real,
whatever that is.
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- [Narrator] And former
top intelligence official,
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Chris Mellon.
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- This is a current
continuing phenomenon.
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It's happening, it
continues to happen.
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- [Narrator] They discovered
five unique characteristics
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that UFOs have in common.
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They're called the
five observables.
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And released
groundbreaking videos.
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- [Narrator] That forced
the Navy to admit its pilots
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were coming face to face
with unidentified objects.
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- [News Announcer]
The U.S. Navy made
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a shocking admission today.
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- [News Announcer] Strange
flying objects caught on tape
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by their own fighter
pilots are, in fact, UFOs.
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- Something needs to be done.
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- [Narrator] Now a new
wave of military witnesses
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is coming out of the shadows.
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- I'd be lying if I said
I wasn't scared ----less.
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- I never seen anything
move like that.
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Shape, size, speeds,
clearly unidentified.
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- [Narrator] The team is united
on a new mission,
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connect the dots to reveal
the truth about UFOs.
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- [Man] This thing had
no capability
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like anything on earth.
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- [Narrator] And warn the
world about the dangers
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they might represent.
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- [Chris] Carl Sagan
once famously said,
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"Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary proof."
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He was absolutely right.
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But now we have the proof.
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(dramatic piano music)
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- [Lue] When I was
at the Pentagon,
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one of the concerns we
had was the connection
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that UFOs have towards
nuclear weapons systems
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or nuclear power plants.
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizondo
is on his way to interview
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a former U.S. Air Force
officer, willing to speak
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about his UFO sighting
for the first time.
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The alleged sighting took
place at an Air Force base
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with nuclear weapons
and a long history
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of strange encounters.
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My name is Daniel Gibson.
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I'm a retired Air Force major.
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- [Lue] Major Gibson,
thank you very much for
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taking your time to come here
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and speak with us here today.
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I'd like to start by asking you
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what inspired you to come
here today and why now?
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- In the fall of 1995,
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I was stationed at
Malmstrom Air Force Base
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in Montana, right
outside of Great Falls.
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Malmstrom is primarily
a ICBM missile base.
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- [Narrator] Since the 1960s,
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Malmstrom Air Force Base
has housed hundreds of
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Intercontinental Ballistic
Missiles
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with nuclear warheads capable
of destroying entire cities.
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During the Cold War,
the base was a key part
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of America's nuclear arsenal,
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that provided a protective arc
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across the nations
northern tier.
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- Launch trajectories
from the Soviet Union
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come over the poles
across Alaska and Canada.
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A ring of bases were
established across the northern
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United States to house both
ICBMs and strategic bombers.
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And they were the bedrock of
our strategic deterrence
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and our security and safety.
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- [Man On Radio] Maintain
alert to the war plan bravo.
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- [Narrator] In the fall of
1995, Gibson was on board
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a KC-135 as it conducted
midair refueling
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for a fleet of B-1B
strategic heavy bombers,
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which can carry nuclear
payloads anywhere in the world.
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- [Daniel] Once the
refueling was done,
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we started our trip
back to Malmstrom.
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I moved forward to
the flight deck,
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to enjoy the Aurora
Borealis above us.
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- [Narrator] Flight paths
for these refueling missions
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often included views
of the aurora borealis,
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or Northern lights.
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- All of a sudden there was
just this very bright light.
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The aircraft commander and the
copilot, they saw it first.
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Time kind of froze for us.
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But it was probably a good
minute that it was there.
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This light, we watched
it all the way down
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into the aurora
where it stopped.
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And you could actually
see the aurora
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flowing around it, just
as if you would see
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a bow wave going around
the front of a boat.
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The longer the object
stayed in the aurora,
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the brighter the object got.
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And then it just shot
straight up
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(whoosh)
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and was gone.
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- [Lue] Some people would say,
you're obviously confused.
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You saw a planet or a star.
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- We had no doubt in our
mind that it was not a star
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or a planet because it
entered our atmosphere.
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It was in the aurora
borealis itself.
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And then it shot
straight back up.
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I've seen the international
space station.
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It moves at a very fast clip.
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This was moving 10 times plus.
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We all had the same reaction.
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It was almost a stunned silence.
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None of us had seen
anything like that before.
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- [Lue] Some folks will
say, well, you know,
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it could be a Russian
first stage booster rocket
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coming in on reentry.
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- Well, initially we thought
it was a shooting star,
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but then we saw the speed
at which it was descending.
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And then it stopped.
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- [Narrator] According
to Gibson's account,
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the object possessed three
of the five observables.
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Instantaneous acceleration,
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the ability to accelerate
instantly from a standstill,
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hypersonic velocity, speeds
of 3,700 miles per hour
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or more, and trans
medium travel,
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the ability to move
through air, water,
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and the vacuum of space.
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- [Lue] You're going from
an atmospheric environment
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to potentially a
vacuum environment.
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- I don't know of any
object in our inventory
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that has the capability
to stop mid reentry,
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stay in position, and
then once it's done,
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accelerate back out
of the atmosphere.
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The G-forces would
kill a human being.
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(foreboding music)
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- [Narrator] To Elizondo,
Major Gibson's sighting
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is part of a pattern.
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While working with
AATIP, the Pentagon's
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Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program,
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Elizondo says
investigators researched
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multiple UFO sightings
around Northern Tier
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nuclear bases
during the Cold War.
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These sightings were
part of a recently leaked
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500-page government
funded report
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detailing dozens of alleged
Cold War UFO encounters.
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- [Officer on PA] Zack is
presently in Def con Four.
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- [Narrator] Investigative
journalist Tim McMillan
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has studied the report.
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- There's a chart
that showed the number
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of UFO sightings within
proximity to different
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nuclear facilities that
house weapons systems.
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There's a distinct
correlation that these objects
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appear to be encroaching
upon airspace
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of the Northern tier.
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If you look at just those
numbers alone, it's alarming.
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(muffled speaking on radio)
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- [Narrator] One of the most
remarkable Cold War era
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sightings also occurred near
Malmstrom Air Force Base,
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28 years before
Gibson's experience.
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In 1967, several Air Force
personnel reported seeing
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a glowing red object
flying over the base.
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The object appeared
to move rapidly
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and was able to make
sharp 90-degree turns,
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stop abruptly, and
reverse course,
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much like the movements
described by Major Gibson
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nearly 30 years later.
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- Both UFOs had this
incredible ability to take off
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and basically go from
from a very low velocity,
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almost a complete hover,
to an incredible speed
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in the instant of time.
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- [Narrator] And there
is one more detail
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that concerns
Elizondo and his team.
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Reportedly, moments
after the sighting,
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10 of Malmstrom's nuclear
warheads were suddenly,
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inexplicably turned off.
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- These weapon systems
had been shut off line,
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so they couldn't be fired.
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If these were Russian aircraft,
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if these were someone
else's aircraft,
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the idea that something
could possess a technology
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that could fly within proximity
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and take these systems offline,
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that's a terrifying capability.
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- [Lue] Is this some sort
of U.S. secret technology,
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or perhaps some
sort of adversarial
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secret weapon
system or platform?
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There is a definitive link
to nuclear technology,
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whether on the battle
space or in time of peace.
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That I think is becoming
more and more clear.
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The question is why?
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What is the connection?
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- [Narrator] It's not just
happening near nuclear bases.
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Alarming UFO activity
is also being reported
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around U.S. nuclear
assets at sea.
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Last year, the team
interviewed multiple
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U.S. Navy personnel.
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- Brother Dave, how are you?
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- Hi brother Lue,
how you doing, man?
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- [Narrator] Including
two fighter pilots
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who described encountering
Tic Tac-shaped UFOs
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during a 2004 training
exercise, after taking off
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from a nuclear powered
aircraft carrier.
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- And all of a
sudden it goes boop,
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and it kind of turns.
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He just rapidly
accelerates beyond anything
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that I've ever seen, crosses
my nose and it's gone.
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- [Narrator] They
uncovered other encounters
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with nuclear-powered carriers.
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- It was basically a sphere
with a cube inside.
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- [Pilot] If I hadn't seen
it with my own eyes,
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I don't know if I would've
believed it either.
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- [Narrator] If these objects
are interested in U.S.
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nuclear technology, Elizondo
and Mellon want to know why.
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- These weapons and
programs are the ultimate
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guarantor of our security.
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Any potential
adversary would seek to
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neutralize that capability.
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These unidentified
craft, they're demonstrating
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capabilities far in excess
of those we possess.
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So we have every
reason to find out
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who's operating these vehicles,
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how they work and
why they're here.
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- [Narrator] Now
Elizondo is on his way
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to investigate
another development.
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- Hey, Mr. Marceau!
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- Lue, how you doing?
- Good to see ya!
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- [Narrator] Another
military eyewitness
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is reporting a UFO near a
location with a possible
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nuclear connection, a
UFO he says was giant.
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Coming up on "Unidentified."
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- [Lue] You said
something very peculiar.
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I knew it was an alien ship.
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- It's pretty clear to
me that they were there
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scoping out our capabilities.
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And here's these huge
caches of ammunition.
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Hey, let's go check k this ou.
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(dramatic music)
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music)
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- [Lue] Now that I'm no longer
confined to just collecting
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DOD information, as
I was in AATIP,
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I can start talking to other
people to see if there's
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anything we're missing.
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Then ultimately use
that information to help
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inform some of our key
decision makers in our country.
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Every one of these stories
adds another data point.
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There's always something
a little bit different
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that we didn't know before.
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- [Narrator] Lue
Elizondo is investigating
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the connection between UFOs
and U.S. nuclear assets.
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- If there's a
technology out there
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that has the ability
to interfere with
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our nuclear response
capabilities,
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that is a national security
issue for our country.
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- [Narrator] He's meeting
with an eyewitness
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who had a terrifying encounter
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on a Major North American
military base.
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(knocking on door)
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- Hey, Mr. Marceau!
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- Lue, how you doing?
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- Good to see ya!
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Thanks for inviting me
to your wonderful abode.
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What I'd like to
do, David, I want to
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hear this story
from front to back.
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- It was my first
annual training.
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August 1st, 1992,
I was deployed to
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a Canadian army
base called Gagetown
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in the province
of New Brunswick.
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- [Narrator] CFB Gagetown
is a large Canadian
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army base just north
of the U.S. border
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used by both countries
as a training hub.
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- It was all army.
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I don't know how many
units were there,
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but people from all
over the Northeast
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U.S. and Eastern
Canada all met up there
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to play these war games.
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- [Narrator] Marceau
and another man
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he refers to as Mike,
because he doesn't want
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his real name revealed,
are assigned night watch.
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- Mike was at Pad One, I
was at Pad Three, and--
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- And what's in
between each pad?
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- Thick forest.
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It was a very bright night.
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The moon was full.
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I could see the whole
big pile of ammunition
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in front of me.
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I had a weapon,
had no ammunition.
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I was a sitting duck there.
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About 11:20, the hair
on the back of my neck
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starts to stand up.
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I feel like someone's
watching me.
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The tree frogs and
the crickets and all
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the nighttime forest
noises stopped.
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And then I look up at
this enormous spacecraft.
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My first instinct is don't move.
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I was afraid that
whoever was in there
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was gonna see me.
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I knew as soon as I saw
it what I was looking at.
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And um...
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I was scared, petrified.
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I don't think it was moving
when I first noticed it.
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And then I saw it
move over the trees.
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Because it's not
like anything that's
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naturally occurring
or even man-made.
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I could hear like a
static noise, like a TV
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that's not tuned
into any channel.
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We had field
phones, always live.
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I picked up the phone.
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I said, "Mike, you there?"
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He says, "Yeah."
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I said, "Did you see that?"
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And he said, "Thank
God you said that.
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"I thought I was going crazy."
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- So if you can, David, real
quick, just describe for me
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front to back, rough dimensions.
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- [Narrator] Marceau later
asked an illustrator he knew
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to create an
image of the craft.
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- Oblong, rounded
corners, slightly tapered
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towards the tail.
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It was taller than my house.
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More than an acre
long, half that width.
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It was huge.
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- Did you notice any
wings, control surfaces,
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navigation lights, landing gear.
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- No visible means
of keeping this thing
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aloft and stationary.
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There was no downwash.
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- [Narrator] Only recently
has Marceau been able
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to talk openly about
what he experienced.
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- [David] I was
traumatized by this.
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Just saying, yeah, I
saw an alien spaceship.
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- These were your words.
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"I knew it was an alien ship."
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Now that's a word I typically
don't use, but you did.
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- I knew what to look for.
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And it was neither an allied
nor Soviet bloc aircraft.
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It was not a
commercial aircraft.
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It was that.
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It was pretty clear to
me that they were there
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scoping out our capabilities.
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And here's these huge
caches of ammunition.
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Hey, let's go check this out.
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- Really, really
appreciate it...
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- [Narrator] Elizondo
wants to know more
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about Marceau's fellow witness.
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Until now, Mike
has stayed silent,
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but he agrees to speak
to Elizondo by phone.
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- [Mike] Hello?
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It was a fairly routine shift
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and I spotted a very
bright yellow orange light
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across the road.
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It was about 30 feet
above the treetops.
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It was there for at least
a half hour or more.
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All of a sudden, without any
warning, it just took off.
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It was like a streak of light.
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It went so fast that
if I had closed my eyes
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for a second, I
would have missed it.
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- Did it shoot over the horizon?
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Where did it go?
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Did it go up?
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- [Mike] All I saw
was a streak of light.
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It was completely solid.
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I was talking to Dave and
I don't know if he asked me
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or if I asked him, but I
remember, "Did you see that?"
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- [Narrator] Elizondo
recognizes three
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of the five observables.
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Instantaneous acceleration,
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hypersonic velocity,
and anti-gravity,
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the ability to move without
conventional propulsion
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or heat signature.
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- These vehicles
don't seem to have any
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obvious signs of propulsion,
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no wings or control surfaces,
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and yet somehow they
seem to be defying
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Earth's gravitational pull.
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Both Mr. Marceau
and Major Gibson
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described objects with
this incredible ability
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to take off from a
very low velocity,
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almost a complete hover
to an incredible speed
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in the instant of time.
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- [Narrator] But why would
a UFO show an interest
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in a Canadian military base?
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Gagetown was not far from
Loring Air Force base in Maine,
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another of America's strategic
Northern Tier nuclear bases.
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- Whatever this phenomenon
is, it seems to be
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keenly interested in our
defense capabilities.
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The Canadians are very
closely integrated
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in defending North America.
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So not the least bit
surprising that sightings
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would occur on both
sides of the border.
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- I found it very
interesting that he said,
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and they were
guarding ammunition.
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And he mentioned that there
was a 50 gallon drum barrel
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to simulate an atomic burst.
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00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:07,800
Wow.
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Why would we have that?
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Doesn't mean it's a
real nuclear device,
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but it's to simulate that.
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Is there a connection,
once again,
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between potential
nuclear technologies
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and UAP activity?
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- [Narrator] But
another theory suggests
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a different kind of
nuclear connection.
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- [Lue] You know,
it's interesting,
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about 60 miles
outside of Gagetown,
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there is a nuclear power plant.
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- [Narrator] The Point Lepreau
Nuclear Generating Station
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is one of just four nuclear
power plants in all of Canada.
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Previously, Elizondo
had found a link,
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not just with UFOs
and missile bases,
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but also power plants.
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- You know, when I was
at AATIP, we were under
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the presumption that there
was definitely a connection
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between UAP activity
and our nuclear energy.
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The question is, who's doing
it and why are they doing it.
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There's all sorts of
reasons why an enemy
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would want to spy on our
nuclear capabilities.
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They want to know do
they have advancement
433
00:20:03,433 --> 00:20:05,934
in nuclear engineering
that, frankly,
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they don't understand
or have yet.
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00:20:08,033 --> 00:20:10,400
So it's no surprise that
somebody is interested
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in our nuclear capabilities.
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At this point, is we just
don't know who the hell it is.
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- [Chris] A potential
adversary is going to want to
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destroy our nuclear
weapons capability
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to survive a nuclear conflict.
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They're going to want to
understand any vulnerabilities
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that they may have.
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- [Narrator] Coming
up on "Unidentified."
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- [Man] When the
lights were, you know,
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enveloping us in the
whole missile silo,
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physically it's traumatizing.
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00:20:38,433 --> 00:20:40,767
Even after 30 years, the
emotions are still there.
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They're raw.
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00:20:41,834 --> 00:20:43,800
(dramatic music)
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c music)
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- Out of the tree line
rises this huge UFO.
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- [Narrator] Lue
Elizondo is reviewing
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David Marceau's eyewitness
account with former
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Deputy Assistant Secretary
of Defense Chris Mellon.
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- He remembers the
entire forest being
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completely dead silent.
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00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:13,533
- Everything ceased?
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- Everything ceased.
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00:21:14,934 --> 00:21:16,867
He did report it through
his chain of command.
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His chain of command
ridiculed him for it.
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00:21:18,834 --> 00:21:20,333
- Were there
follow-up interviews?
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With OSI or Army
Counterintelligence
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or anyone interview him?
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- Negative.
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- There should have
been a follow-up.
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This kind of reporting
should be examined
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in a purely objective fashion.
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00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:32,867
- Some of our
facilities owned by
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the Department of Energy, DOE,
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may have some reporting
as well that hasn't yet
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been brought to the light
of day, so to speak.
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00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,834
- And we know that's the
case from the early years
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of the nuclear program.
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There were so many
sightings that had generated
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the memos that got to
the four-star level.
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00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,300
- [Narrator] These memos
and official reports
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have never been made public.
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Now, to further explore
the link between UFOs
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and nuclear capabilities,
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Elizondo is seeking
out new witnesses.
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This Air Force security
specialist has asked
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to remain anonymous because
he fears the repercussions
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00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:07,900
of coming forward.
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00:22:08,033 --> 00:22:10,266
- I was stationed at F. E.
Warren Air Force Base
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from 1987 'til 1991.
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- [Narrator] During the cold war
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Francis E. Warren Air Force Base
in Wyoming
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was one of America's most secure
nuclear strongholds.
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with over 100 intercontinental
ballistic missiles
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on constant alert.
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- [Officer on radio]
Roger (muffled speech)
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- Clear.
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- [Narrator] Like Malmstrom
and Loring Air Force Bases,
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Warren was also part
of the Northern Tier
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nuclear defense system.
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00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:38,633
- I was a security specialist.
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Worked out in the
missile fields.
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I was Armed Response Team
member at that point,
499
00:22:43,934 --> 00:22:47,233
which is two men
working a 12 hour shift,
500
00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:50,600
and I usually got stuck
with working nighttime.
501
00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:52,600
- [Narrator] It was June, 1988,
502
00:22:52,734 --> 00:22:54,600
the waning days of the Cold War.
503
00:22:54,734 --> 00:22:58,266
- We had just gotten
on duty and we had
504
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,333
the missile crew
down in their capsule
505
00:23:00,467 --> 00:23:03,600
call up to the Flight
Security Sergeant.
506
00:23:05,633 --> 00:23:09,133
Told him that they had
several missiles go offline.
507
00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:13,333
It's very rare for a
missile field to go down.
508
00:23:13,467 --> 00:23:14,834
In the whole time
that I was there,
509
00:23:14,967 --> 00:23:17,533
it had never happened except
for that one incident.
510
00:23:19,333 --> 00:23:22,967
My ART team leader and
I, we got into the truck
511
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:26,433
and we headed off, just
patrolling the whole area.
512
00:23:27,934 --> 00:23:30,166
It was right around
9:30-ish at that time.
513
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,300
We had just got done
clearing the site.
514
00:23:32,433 --> 00:23:34,133
That's when the lights went out.
515
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,667
(radio static buzzing)
516
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,000
It's pitch black.
517
00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:40,033
We can't see anything around us.
518
00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:44,367
Then we see this
pinpoint of light
519
00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,633
moving from North to South,
520
00:23:46,767 --> 00:23:49,600
and then all of a sudden it
made that immediate turn,
521
00:23:49,734 --> 00:23:51,700
and we were thinking,
wait a second.
522
00:23:51,834 --> 00:23:53,867
We don't know of any
aircraft that would make
523
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,967
that kind of 90 degree turn.
524
00:23:57,433 --> 00:23:58,300
- [Narrator] He then says
he witnessed something
525
00:23:58,433 --> 00:23:59,367
even more alarming.
526
00:24:00,734 --> 00:24:02,900
- This light came
up very quickly,
527
00:24:03,033 --> 00:24:05,033
stopped over us and
hovered over us.
528
00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:07,433
No sound.
529
00:24:07,567 --> 00:24:09,233
We were both poking our
heads out the windows,
530
00:24:09,367 --> 00:24:10,533
looking up at an object,
531
00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:12,033
probably about a
hundred feet above us,
532
00:24:12,166 --> 00:24:15,033
that was 50 to 60
feet in diameter.
533
00:24:16,667 --> 00:24:19,600
The edge of it was bright,
but at the bottom of it,
534
00:24:19,734 --> 00:24:23,033
you could tell it was
a metallic surface.
535
00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,700
That we could see
red and blue lights
536
00:24:25,834 --> 00:24:27,533
moving in a circular fashion.
537
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,700
It was saucer on the
bottom, saucer on the top.
538
00:24:31,834 --> 00:24:34,266
And then what I think
was the control area
539
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,700
was angular and then
flat on the top of that.
540
00:24:37,867 --> 00:24:40,000
And when the lights
were enveloping us
541
00:24:40,133 --> 00:24:44,200
in the whole missile silo,
we felt a tingling sensation
542
00:24:44,333 --> 00:24:46,266
over our skin, over our faces.
543
00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:49,233
It was so scary.
544
00:24:49,367 --> 00:24:51,667
You're pretty much
just frozen with fear.
545
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,700
It was only there for
like two, three minutes.
546
00:24:54,834 --> 00:24:58,834
But when the actual
craft left, it just zipped.
547
00:24:58,967 --> 00:25:01,266
I mean, it was a streak
of light going off.
548
00:25:04,066 --> 00:25:04,934
- [Narrator] The
witness and his partner
549
00:25:05,066 --> 00:25:06,600
returned to the launch facility.
550
00:25:08,233 --> 00:25:11,133
- We're still scared at
that point, very tense.
551
00:25:11,266 --> 00:25:12,767
And the Flight Security
Sergeant was like,
552
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,633
"Okay, so anything
go on out there?"
553
00:25:14,767 --> 00:25:17,166
And we were like, "Nope,
nope, nothing happened."
554
00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:20,834
After that, we would
never talk about it.
555
00:25:20,967 --> 00:25:25,600
We knew, just hearing from
other people on the base,
556
00:25:25,734 --> 00:25:30,667
they label you as somebody
who has mental problems.
557
00:25:31,767 --> 00:25:32,834
- [Narrator] The
airmen stayed silent.
558
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:36,633
But just months later,
multiple witnesses report
559
00:25:36,767 --> 00:25:39,767
a similar unidentified
aircraft in the skies above
560
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:42,834
Warren Air Force Base in
nearby Cheyenne, Wyoming.
561
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,767
- [Marty Luna] I got
something spotted up here
562
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,967
in the sky I can't
figure out what it is.
563
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:50,467
- This is a picture of the
unidentified flying object
564
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,900
that hovered over Cheyenne
early Wednesday morning.
565
00:25:53,033 --> 00:25:55,600
According to 9-1-1
records, the officer saw
566
00:25:55,734 --> 00:25:57,900
a circular object
floating in the sky,
567
00:25:58,033 --> 00:26:00,700
and he said it was moving
slowly across the horizon.
568
00:26:00,834 --> 00:26:04,500
- It was kind of long
shaped and kind of oblong,
569
00:26:04,633 --> 00:26:05,700
and it kind of curved in it.
570
00:26:05,834 --> 00:26:07,166
And you could see
lights in the middle
571
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:09,000
going around like
this changing colors
572
00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:12,033
from red, blue, green, and
even some yellow in it.
573
00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:13,867
- [Julie] Whatever it was
it returned last night
574
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,500
when there were
several new reports
575
00:26:15,633 --> 00:26:17,400
of UFO sightings over Cheyenne.
576
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,000
- [Narrator] There were
never any official reports
577
00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:22,967
about the incident at
Warren Air Force Base.
578
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,367
But the sightings over
Cheyenne serve as proof
579
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:26,834
for one witness.
580
00:26:28,033 --> 00:26:29,367
- I've never told any
of my family or friends
581
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,333
exactly what happened.
582
00:26:32,834 --> 00:26:35,367
Even after 30 years, the
emotions are still there.
583
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:36,333
They're raw.
584
00:26:38,433 --> 00:26:39,967
- It's safe to say
now, as a result
585
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,333
of our current
investigation here,
586
00:26:43,467 --> 00:26:48,066
that we may be looking at
a 60-year effort by someone
587
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,400
to either conduct reconnaissance
on or interfere with
588
00:26:51,533 --> 00:26:54,166
our nuclear capabilities
all along the Northern Tier.
589
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,400
The concern is, is there
anything we can do about it?
590
00:27:00,533 --> 00:27:02,567
And the answer may very
well be that there's no,
591
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,066
there is nothing we can
do about it right now.
592
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,567
- [Narrator] Three
military eyewitnesses
593
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:09,400
from the same area appear
to backup Elizondo's belief
594
00:27:09,533 --> 00:27:11,700
that there's a
connection between UFOs
595
00:27:11,834 --> 00:27:15,367
and America's strategic
Northern Tier nuclear bases,
596
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:19,066
bases that housed our most
advanced military assets.
597
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,934
But could an alleged
encounter half a world away,
598
00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,633
raise the stakes even higher?
599
00:27:24,834 --> 00:27:26,734
Coming up on "Unidentified."
600
00:27:26,867 --> 00:27:30,734
- If there are things
that can move like this,
601
00:27:30,867 --> 00:27:32,200
is this a global threat?
602
00:27:32,333 --> 00:27:34,533
These things don't seem to
obey the laws of physics.
603
00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:37,567
They're sure as hell not gonna
obey the laws of politics.
604
00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:39,633
(dramatic music)
605
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,367
music)
606
00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:50,033
- [Jeremy] I'm looking for
validation for 24 years
607
00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:52,433
of this memory
living in my head.
608
00:27:52,567 --> 00:27:54,934
- [Narrator] Today, another
veteran is coming forward
609
00:27:55,066 --> 00:27:56,900
with a sighting that
Lue Elizondo believes
610
00:27:57,033 --> 00:27:59,166
could raise alarming
new possibilities
611
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,834
about a UFO's ability
to track nuclear assets.
612
00:28:02,967 --> 00:28:03,767
- [Lue] How are you, Sir?
613
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:04,934
- Good, good to meet you.
614
00:28:05,066 --> 00:28:06,400
- Thank you very
much for coming here.
615
00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:09,934
- I've never said anything
about this in a public venue.
616
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,767
You don't necessarily want
to be the guy who saw a UFO.
617
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:17,100
You don't want to
have that stigma.
618
00:28:17,233 --> 00:28:18,734
- [Narrator] Jeremy
McGowan served in
619
00:28:18,867 --> 00:28:21,633
the U.S. Air Force
security forces.
620
00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:24,300
- I was part of the team
that would get deployed
621
00:28:24,433 --> 00:28:27,900
all over the planet for
multiple different types
622
00:28:28,033 --> 00:28:31,734
of exercises or operations.
623
00:28:31,867 --> 00:28:34,600
- [Narrator] In the mid
1990s, McGowan was deployed
624
00:28:34,734 --> 00:28:36,266
on a classified security mission
625
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,266
deep in the Jordanian desert.
626
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,100
- We're basically
told here's a crate.
627
00:28:42,233 --> 00:28:44,934
A very large crate that
you could have driven a
628
00:28:45,066 --> 00:28:46,900
Volkswagen Bug through.
629
00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:49,166
There was no
markings, no stencils,
630
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:53,233
no nomenclature, no
plaques, no cordons.
631
00:28:53,367 --> 00:28:57,500
It was just a large, wooden
crate that had absolutely
632
00:28:57,633 --> 00:28:59,934
no business being in the
middle of the desert.
633
00:29:00,133 --> 00:29:02,567
And we're told don't
let anybody near it.
634
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,367
Don't get near it.
635
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:07,800
- [Lue] Any idea what might
have been in that crate?
636
00:29:07,934 --> 00:29:10,834
- I was never, never
officially briefed as to
637
00:29:10,967 --> 00:29:13,166
what the contents
of the crate was.
638
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:14,734
We were told that this crate was
639
00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:16,667
a top priority for security.
640
00:29:17,867 --> 00:29:19,200
- [Narrator] McGowan
wonders why a crate
641
00:29:19,333 --> 00:29:22,567
in this remote desert needs
such intense security.
642
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:25,233
- On the base, we had
Naval Special Warfare,
643
00:29:25,367 --> 00:29:29,000
75th Ranger Battalion,
FBI, the CIA.
644
00:29:29,867 --> 00:29:34,300
You had units from the military
that have very specific tasks
645
00:29:34,433 --> 00:29:36,667
when it comes to
nuclear security.
646
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,333
- [Narrator] McGowan
suspects the crate contained
647
00:29:39,467 --> 00:29:42,166
some kind of nuclear material,
648
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:44,667
a realization that becomes
even more concerning
649
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,400
one night during his deployment,
when he's scanning the sky
650
00:29:47,533 --> 00:29:48,967
with night vision goggles.
651
00:29:51,266 --> 00:29:55,867
- All of a sudden I
saw a pinpoint of light
652
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:02,233
in the night vision goggles
that shot from my six o'clock,
653
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:06,200
goes straight up to
the apex of my vision,
654
00:30:06,333 --> 00:30:08,567
and then does a 90 degree turn
655
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:11,300
and shoots off to
my nine o'clock.
656
00:30:11,433 --> 00:30:14,200
It happened multiple times.
657
00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:17,166
I'm seeing something
that is going from
658
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:20,367
my visual horizon to
another visual horizon
659
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,166
with a 90 degree turn in
the middle of the apex.
660
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,467
And this was happening
in under two seconds.
661
00:30:26,967 --> 00:30:28,400
And it was repeating.
662
00:30:31,266 --> 00:30:33,500
- [Narrator] To Elizondo,
the observables displayed
663
00:30:33,633 --> 00:30:36,633
by the object do not
obey the laws of physics.
664
00:30:36,767 --> 00:30:38,300
- [Jeremy] If you're
looking at a fighter jet
665
00:30:38,433 --> 00:30:40,800
or a helicopter, as
it's turning,
666
00:30:40,934 --> 00:30:42,700
it's going to have an arc.
667
00:30:42,834 --> 00:30:45,567
It's going to have a
radius to that turn.
668
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,367
- [Lue] Why would the
things you witnessed
669
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,633
not be a satellite?
670
00:30:50,767 --> 00:30:54,367
- Satellites go
in orbits in very
671
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,133
circular paths and directions.
672
00:30:56,266 --> 00:30:58,266
This was not that.
673
00:30:59,133 --> 00:31:00,900
- [Narrator] McGowan says
he believes the object
674
00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:03,400
may have been tracking
what's in the crate.
675
00:31:03,533 --> 00:31:05,233
- It was my belief
that this was probably
676
00:31:05,367 --> 00:31:07,133
targeting the crate.
677
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:11,266
It was able to look
down and select
678
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,033
certain radiation signatures.
679
00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:17,066
The government still has not
told us what was in the crate.
680
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,567
They probably never will.
681
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,400
But after speaking with the
people that I've spoken to,
682
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,700
I have personally no
doubt that this was
683
00:31:25,834 --> 00:31:29,133
a recovered warhead from
one of the fractured states
684
00:31:29,266 --> 00:31:30,700
of the former Soviet empire.
685
00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:36,066
That was our biggest concern.
686
00:31:37,567 --> 00:31:40,300
(crowd cheering)
687
00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:44,967
- As the wall came down,
the Russians, they didn't
688
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:47,433
seem to be able to fully
account for their inventory.
689
00:31:47,567 --> 00:31:50,133
They had the largest nuclear
inventory in the world.
690
00:31:51,233 --> 00:31:53,066
There was a tremendous
amount of angst
691
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,066
and concern in our government.
692
00:31:58,533 --> 00:32:00,300
- [Narrator] Could a UFO
be capable of tracking
693
00:32:00,433 --> 00:32:04,100
a single nuclear warhead to
the middle of a remote desert?
694
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,767
- I have to be a little careful
how I discuss this aspect,
695
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:12,767
just like he does, but there
is some reason to believe
696
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:17,800
that inside that crate
was what we refer to as
697
00:32:17,934 --> 00:32:20,867
a broken arrow, potentially
a nuclear device.
698
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,333
- [Narrator] Whatever it was,
Jeremy McGowan is convinced
699
00:32:25,467 --> 00:32:29,300
that what he saw in the night
sky was no normal aircraft.
700
00:32:30,734 --> 00:32:32,600
- When you look at an aircraft
with night vision goggles,
701
00:32:32,734 --> 00:32:35,867
you can see the wing strobes,
you can see front strobes.
702
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,600
You can see everything.
703
00:32:37,734 --> 00:32:39,100
This was not identifiable.
704
00:32:39,233 --> 00:32:41,834
This had no strobing effect,
it had no flash patterns.
705
00:32:41,967 --> 00:32:46,033
It had nothing except a
point of light that moved
706
00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:49,166
extremely quickly from
horizon to horizon.
707
00:32:50,266 --> 00:32:53,834
If there are things
that can move like this,
708
00:32:53,967 --> 00:32:56,834
they do pose a national
security threat.
709
00:32:56,967 --> 00:32:58,166
I would take it a step further.
710
00:32:58,300 --> 00:32:59,967
Is this a global threat?
711
00:33:00,166 --> 00:33:02,734
Is this something
that affects everybody
712
00:33:02,867 --> 00:33:04,333
regardless of borders?
713
00:33:04,467 --> 00:33:06,433
These things don't seem to
obey the laws of physics.
714
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:08,967
They're sure as hell not gonna
obey the laws of politics.
715
00:33:10,166 --> 00:33:11,867
- [Narrator] The team has now
heard four different accounts
716
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,233
describing UFOs with
advanced capabilities
717
00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:16,600
hovering near nuclear assets.
718
00:33:16,734 --> 00:33:18,867
They believe it's information
members of the government
719
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,600
need to be aware of.
720
00:33:22,633 --> 00:33:25,333
Especially Lue Elizondo's
mentor,
721
00:33:25,467 --> 00:33:28,200
the man who started the
Pentagon's secret UFO program.
722
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,066
Coming up on "Unidentified."
723
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,600
- [Lue] Why do you
suppose there are people
724
00:33:33,734 --> 00:33:35,367
in our government that
are afraid of the truth?
725
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,600
- So we're not talking
about devils and goblins.
726
00:33:37,734 --> 00:33:39,100
We're talking about science.
727
00:33:39,233 --> 00:33:41,600
This isn't anything we can
just pretend doesn't exist.
728
00:33:41,734 --> 00:33:43,567
It exists and we've
got to make sure that
729
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:44,934
we don't let it go.
730
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:47,433
(dramatic music)
731
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:52,834
music)
732
00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:56,467
- [Narrator] Lue
Elizondo and Chris Mellon
733
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,166
have spent months gathering
new evidence of UFOs
734
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:01,734
hovering near America's
nuclear assets.
735
00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:05,200
Now they're in Washington
D.C. to sound the alarm.
736
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:06,867
- [Chris] They can't
avert their eyes to these
737
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,467
anomalies any longer.
738
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,567
So we can stimulate that
interest on the Hill
739
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:13,834
by bringing some of the
latest information to them,
740
00:34:13,967 --> 00:34:16,066
as well as to the
executive branch.
741
00:34:17,533 --> 00:34:20,000
- [Narrator] The team has
briefed top lawmakers before
742
00:34:20,133 --> 00:34:23,000
and now some of those
lawmakers are paying attention.
743
00:34:23,133 --> 00:34:25,000
- Not gonna get into any of
the contents of the briefing,
744
00:34:25,133 --> 00:34:29,200
but the military and others are
taking this issue seriously,
745
00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:31,400
which I think in
previous generations
746
00:34:31,533 --> 00:34:32,900
may not have been the case.
747
00:34:33,033 --> 00:34:35,667
- What shifted and why are
politicians now coming out
748
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,533
and saying we've
received the briefing?
749
00:34:37,667 --> 00:34:39,834
Well, I think a large part
of that does come down
750
00:34:39,967 --> 00:34:42,066
to Lue Elizondo
and Chris Mellon.
751
00:34:43,533 --> 00:34:45,900
You have two people from
very different walks of life,
752
00:34:46,033 --> 00:34:48,700
both of whom have
dedicated their careers
753
00:34:48,834 --> 00:34:51,567
to public service and
national security.
754
00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:53,400
They've really
opened this issue up
755
00:34:53,533 --> 00:34:55,367
at senior government levels.
756
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:56,734
They're the pathfinders here.
757
00:34:56,867 --> 00:34:59,166
If you see Lue
Elizondo as the Kirk,
758
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,400
then you should see
Chris Mellon as Spock.
759
00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:04,233
- [Narrator] Elizondo
and Mellon have started
760
00:35:04,367 --> 00:35:06,567
the conversation, but
have yet to convince
761
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,400
the U.S. government to view
UFOs and their connection
762
00:35:09,533 --> 00:35:12,567
to nuclear assets as a
national security threat.
763
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,300
- And I did have one
very brief meeting
764
00:35:14,433 --> 00:35:15,900
saying they're seeing UFOs.
765
00:35:16,033 --> 00:35:16,934
Do I believe it?
766
00:35:17,066 --> 00:35:18,033
Not particularly.
767
00:35:19,433 --> 00:35:20,600
- We're seeing something
in our skies that we
768
00:35:20,734 --> 00:35:22,100
don't know what it is.
769
00:35:22,233 --> 00:35:24,734
And yet, for some reason,
our national reaction
770
00:35:24,867 --> 00:35:26,433
has always been very dismissive.
771
00:35:26,567 --> 00:35:27,800
Eh, nothing to see here, folks.
772
00:35:27,934 --> 00:35:30,133
Nah, don't pay
attention to that.
773
00:35:30,266 --> 00:35:32,900
If this turns out to be
an adversarial technology
774
00:35:33,033 --> 00:35:35,633
and we've since been
leapfrogged now for decades,
775
00:35:35,767 --> 00:35:37,200
I think there's gonna
be some people that are
776
00:35:37,333 --> 00:35:38,533
gonna be held accountable.
777
00:35:38,667 --> 00:35:40,600
The American people
are going to demand it.
778
00:35:40,734 --> 00:35:42,133
- [Narrator] Elizondo
meets with the man
779
00:35:42,266 --> 00:35:44,967
who started it all, the
creator of the Pentagon's
780
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:48,133
Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program,
781
00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:51,100
former Senate Majority
Leader, Harry Reid,
782
00:35:51,233 --> 00:35:54,033
to strategize how to get
congressional attention.
783
00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:56,133
- [Lue] This for me is
probably one of the most
784
00:35:56,266 --> 00:36:01,000
important interviews that
I've had frankly to date.
785
00:36:01,133 --> 00:36:02,834
If it wasn't for
Senator Harry Reid,
786
00:36:02,967 --> 00:36:05,000
there never would
have been an AATIP,
787
00:36:05,133 --> 00:36:07,300
there never would
have been the truth.
788
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:12,000
- [Narrator] The former Nevada
Senator has been battling cancer
789
00:36:12,133 --> 00:36:14,266
and Elizondo is eager
to sit down again
790
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,467
with his friend and mentor.
791
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,934
- It's good that
we're looking at it.
792
00:36:18,066 --> 00:36:19,700
And I hope we do look at it
more and I wish government
793
00:36:19,834 --> 00:36:21,834
would get more involved
rather than less involved.
794
00:36:21,967 --> 00:36:23,667
- [Narrator] Elizondo
briefs Senator Reid
795
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,767
on the new eyewitness
accounts he believes
796
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,667
suggest a stronger
connection between UFOs
797
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,467
and nuclear assets.
798
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,567
- So wether these are UAPs
buzzing arund our missle silos
799
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,000
or around our nuclear triad
capabilities,
800
00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:41,133
there does seem to be, now,
imperical data
801
00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:46,500
showing conclusively that there
is some sort of interest.
802
00:36:46,633 --> 00:36:47,433
Now, the question is:
803
00:36:47,567 --> 00:36:50,133
Is this interest a benign
interest
804
00:36:50,266 --> 00:36:51,700
or is this some sort of
surveilance
805
00:36:51,834 --> 00:36:54,000
or reconnaissance effort?
806
00:36:54,533 --> 00:36:56,100
- I think that's something
that the military
807
00:36:56,233 --> 00:36:59,166
and State Department
should be interested in.
808
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,567
- [Chris] He's been aware
that these activities
809
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,333
are continuing and had
the courage to take it on
810
00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:08,567
and to say, I'm not going to
let personal embarrassment
811
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:11,734
come between me and
national security.
812
00:37:11,867 --> 00:37:14,533
- [Narrator] Like Elizondo,
Reid believes the possible link
813
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:18,100
between UFOs and nuclear
assets makes understanding
814
00:37:18,233 --> 00:37:20,834
what they are even
more critical.
815
00:37:20,967 --> 00:37:23,033
- Why do you suppose there
are people in our government
816
00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:25,567
that are afraid of
just talking about it?
817
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:27,066
- They're afraid because
they don't want to sound
818
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,600
like a fringe person.
819
00:37:28,734 --> 00:37:30,533
I've had people come to
me, "You can't do that
820
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,400
"because it's not in
keeping with my religion.
821
00:37:33,533 --> 00:37:34,834
"I don't accept that."
822
00:37:34,967 --> 00:37:36,066
- What's your advice
to the American people?
823
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,333
- Don't be afraid
to ask questions.
824
00:37:38,467 --> 00:37:40,533
Put members of
Congress on the spot.
825
00:37:41,867 --> 00:37:45,200
There have not been 10
people that have seen things.
826
00:37:45,333 --> 00:37:49,166
Not 20, but thousands of
thousands are documented.
827
00:37:50,834 --> 00:37:51,934
Shut down.
828
00:37:52,066 --> 00:37:54,533
We have ships see
things out in the water,
829
00:37:54,667 --> 00:37:56,200
the communications stop.
830
00:37:56,333 --> 00:37:59,700
So this isn't anything we can
just pretend doesn't exist.
831
00:37:59,834 --> 00:38:00,667
UFOs exist.
832
00:38:03,066 --> 00:38:04,300
- I know you don't
like to speculate,
833
00:38:04,433 --> 00:38:07,333
but have you had any
theories, personal theories
834
00:38:07,467 --> 00:38:09,967
what these things could be?
835
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:13,166
- I've always believed there's
other beings out there.
836
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:15,567
We're not talking about
devils and goblins.
837
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:17,066
We're talking about science.
838
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,100
I have absolute confidence
that the thousands of people
839
00:38:20,233 --> 00:38:23,633
who have reported them is too
840
00:38:23,767 --> 00:38:26,400
forceful to ignore.
841
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:30,400
We're missing the boat if we
don't do everything we can
842
00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:31,934
to find out what they are.
843
00:38:32,066 --> 00:38:34,033
- Thank you so much, I cannot
thank you enough.
844
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:36,600
- [Narrator] Coming
up on "Unidentified."
845
00:38:36,734 --> 00:38:39,100
- There's a very good
possibility that we may not
846
00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:41,500
necessarily be alone.
847
00:38:41,633 --> 00:38:44,233
- Are they aliens
or are they us?
848
00:38:44,367 --> 00:38:47,934
- [Chris] The stakes are so
high, they're existential.
849
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,767
(dramatic music)
850
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,734
music)
851
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:00,066
- [Narrator] Lue
Elizondo has spoken with
852
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,233
four military witnesses.
853
00:39:02,367 --> 00:39:03,767
- Hey, Mr. Marceau!
854
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,700
- [Narrator] Who say they
saw unidentified objects
855
00:39:05,834 --> 00:39:10,834
while on duty near nuclear
sites in the 1980s and '90s.
856
00:39:10,967 --> 00:39:14,633
- It was neither an allied
nor Soviet bloc aircraft.
857
00:39:14,767 --> 00:39:17,266
It was not a
commercial aircraft.
858
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,233
Pretty clear to me
that they were there
859
00:39:19,367 --> 00:39:21,533
scoping out our capabilities.
860
00:39:23,033 --> 00:39:27,100
- All of a sudden there was
just this very bright light,
861
00:39:27,233 --> 00:39:31,467
and then it just shot
straight up and was gone.
862
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,967
- This light came
up very quickly,
863
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,734
stopped probably about
a hundred feet above us.
864
00:39:36,867 --> 00:39:38,200
No sound.
865
00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:41,600
It's very rare for a missile
site or a missile field
866
00:39:41,734 --> 00:39:43,133
to go down whatsoever.
867
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,734
- This was not identifiable.
868
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:51,867
It had nothing except
a bright point of light
869
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,467
that moved extremely quickly
from horizon to horizon.
870
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,400
- I don't want to conform
to facts to already
871
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:04,900
a preconceived opinion
that I might have.
872
00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:06,767
So I'm curious your thoughts.
873
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:08,266
- So we know this is occurring.
874
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,400
We know it from these
witnesses and this was
875
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:12,800
a recurring phenomenon,
beginning at least in
876
00:40:12,934 --> 00:40:14,967
the '70s, if not prior.
877
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,934
Whether what's being
seen lately is connected
878
00:40:18,066 --> 00:40:21,400
in any way to what was observed
then is an open question.
879
00:40:21,533 --> 00:40:24,467
There hasn't been a satisfactory
answer provided yet.
880
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,300
But why we would ignore this
data rather than seize it
881
00:40:29,433 --> 00:40:32,200
and examine it is
a mystery to me.
882
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:33,900
It makes no sense.
883
00:40:34,033 --> 00:40:36,400
- [Narrator] For Elizondo and
former top Pentagon official,
884
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:39,133
Chris Mellon, these
recently uncovered sightings
885
00:40:39,266 --> 00:40:42,767
provide ominous new data
points that extend the scope
886
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,734
and timeframe of what's
known about UFO activities
887
00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:48,033
near America's nuclear assets
888
00:40:48,166 --> 00:40:50,066
and call for further
investigation.
889
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,266
- [Lue] Time and time again,
when I'm talking to individuals
890
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,967
who were stationed at
strategic locations
891
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,567
around the world, UAPs
are being seen over
892
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:03,033
some sort of U.S.
nuclear capability.
893
00:41:03,166 --> 00:41:05,333
- There should have been
follow up with regard to these
894
00:41:05,467 --> 00:41:07,633
reports, unfortunately,
in some cases,
895
00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:09,667
as we could see from
these witnesses,
896
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,800
what they got was ridicule
rather than interest.
897
00:41:13,934 --> 00:41:15,367
That's extremely unfortunate.
898
00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:20,467
- This is what is so
compelling to me as someone
899
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,433
who does national
security journalism.
900
00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,300
When you have some of the
most highly trained observers
901
00:41:25,433 --> 00:41:28,667
over a prolonged period of
time in the most highly cleared
902
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,500
important positions
in the U.S. military,
903
00:41:30,633 --> 00:41:32,834
whether that be
manning an ICBM base
904
00:41:32,967 --> 00:41:36,800
in the middle of nowhere,
or in a nuclear submarine,
905
00:41:36,934 --> 00:41:38,166
or in a jet fighter,
906
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,100
these are witness accounts
and evidence points
907
00:41:41,233 --> 00:41:43,033
that we also cannot ignore.
908
00:41:46,734 --> 00:41:48,200
- [Narrator] Though the
team has recorded compelling
909
00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:51,166
new testimony connecting
UFOs to U.S. military
910
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,633
nuclear assets, one
mystery remains.
911
00:41:54,767 --> 00:41:57,133
Who controls these
unidentified craft
912
00:41:57,266 --> 00:41:58,533
and for what purpose?
913
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,567
- Why would UFOs be interested
in our nuclear weapons
914
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:05,867
or our nuclear energy systems?
915
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,433
We know human beings would be.
916
00:42:08,567 --> 00:42:11,767
We certainly are very
interested in foreign
917
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,266
governments' nuclear
proliferation.
918
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,266
So are they aliens
or are they us?
919
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,867
- I still remain to be
convinced that it is
920
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,200
not from here, but
at the same time,
921
00:42:26,333 --> 00:42:29,567
there's a very good possibility
that we may not be alone.
922
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,200
- It seems to be that
we need to look at
923
00:42:32,333 --> 00:42:33,600
anything and everything.
924
00:42:34,867 --> 00:42:35,934
The fact that
925
00:42:36,066 --> 00:42:39,433
vehicles are operating
in such close proximity
926
00:42:39,567 --> 00:42:42,000
to these strategic
nuclear weapons suggests
927
00:42:42,133 --> 00:42:47,200
that someone may be seeking
to identify and exploit
928
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:50,200
vulnerabilities associated
with those weapons
929
00:42:50,333 --> 00:42:52,000
in order to defeat it.
930
00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:56,934
It's difficult to imagine a
more pressing requirement,
931
00:42:57,066 --> 00:43:01,133
from my standpoint, than to
find out who is operating
932
00:43:01,266 --> 00:43:04,233
these vehicles, why they're
here, what their intentions are.
933
00:43:06,033 --> 00:43:09,400
The stakes are so high,
they're existential.
74043
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