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- [Narrator] Tonight
on identified.
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizondo
expands his UFO investigation
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to South America.
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- Are they seeing the same
thing in the skies that we are?
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- [Narrator] From never
before seen video.
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- [Narrator] To an alleged
midair showdown with the UFO.
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- Oscar Santa Maria
was given the order.
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If it isn't ours, shoot it down.
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- [Narrator] Is there a
connection to ancient sightings?
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- They were being witnessed
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by these people who've
lived on this land
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for thousands of years.
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- [Narrator] And what can
military officials there reveal?
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- [Rubin] They think that I'm
covering up things.
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Covering up?
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- [Lue] What?
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That for me was a
drop the mic moment.
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(air whooshing)
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- [Narrator] Everything we
know about UFOs is changing.
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Thanks to a team led by former
Pentagon UFO investigator,
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Lue Elizondo.
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- That is real whatever that is.
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- [Narrator] And former
top intelligence official,
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Chris Mellon.
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- This is a current
continuing phenomenon.
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It's happening, it
continues to happen.
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(air whooshing)
(static crackling)
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- [Narrator] They discovered
five unique characteristics
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that UFOs have in common.
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They call the five observables.
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And released
groundbreaking videos,
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that forced the Navy
to admit its pilots
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were coming face to face
with unidentified objects.
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- [Male Reporter] The US Navy
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made a shocking admission today.
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- [Female Reporter]
Strange flying objects
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caught on tape by their
own fighter pilots
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are in fact UFOs.
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- Something needs to be done.
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- [Narrator] Now a new
wave of military witnesses
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is coming out of the shadows.
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- I'd be lying if I
said I wasn't scared ---less.
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I never seen
anything move like that.
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Shape, size, speed,
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it's clearly unidentified.
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- [Narrator] The team is
united on a new mission.
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Connect the dots to reveal
the truth about UFOs.
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- [Pilot] This thing had
no capability
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like anything on earth.
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- [Narrator] And warn the
world about the dangers
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they might represent.
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- [Chris] Carl Sagan
once famously said
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extraordinary claims
require extraordinary proof.
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He was absolutely right.
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But now we have the proof.
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(static crackling)
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(plane engine humming)
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizondo is
on a mission to South America.
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Known for being a UFO hotspot,
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home to thousands of
unexplained sightings.
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(air whooshing)
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(piano keys playing)
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Chile, Argentina and Peru are
at the center of the storm.
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(static crackling)
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- In Chile, which is thought
to have the most UFO sightings
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of any country in the world,
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a Navy helicopter
reported this UFO.
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It's Tic Tac like shape,
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similar to objects
reported by US Navy pilots.
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(static crackling)
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- [Pilot] Look at this thing.
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It's rotating.
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- [Narrator] Elizondo's
first stop is Lima, Peru.
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- Are they seeing the same
thing in the skies that we are?
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And if so, that's yet
another piece of the puzzle
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that this is truly
a global phenomena.
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(city humming)
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(car honking)
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(traffic humming)
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- [Narrator] He's learned
there's a retired general
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with an incredible
story to tell.
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- [Lue] I'm on my way to
meet general Spicer now
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in San Isidro here
in Lima, Peru.
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This military officer
happens to be former general.
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And this is an individual who's
not only a trained observer,
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he's also an instructor.
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So, he understands aircraft
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probably better than
most people.
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So general Spicer,
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have you ever witnessed
anything that left you
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scratching your head wondering
what the hell was that?
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- [Narrator] April 11, 1980,
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La Joya Airforce Base
in southern Peru.
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Spicer and a young lieutenant
named Oscar Santa Maria
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are lined up for inspection
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when a strange report comes
in from the control tower.
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- [Narrator] A
large glowing object
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is hovering outside the
basis restricted airspace
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and isn't responding to radio
commands to identify itself.
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- [Lue] You're talking
about almost 2000 people
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in formation standing
on an airfield
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watching as Oscar Santa
Maria was scrambled
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to go intercept this thing.
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- [Narrator] Santa Maria
takes off in the Sukhoi Su 22,
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part of a fleet of
advanced fighters
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Peru had recently purchased
from the Soviet Union.
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- [Lue] A Sukhoi 22
supersonic swing wing Aircraft
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variable geometry wing.
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One of the fastest aircraft
at the time on the planet.
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- [Narrator] As Santa
Maria Soviet made jet
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screams over the base.
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(jet engine roaring)
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He maneuvers to get a visual
on the strange object.
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- [Narrator] Back at base,
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the giant glowing object
was considered a threat
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that needed to be taken out.
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(upbeat music)
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- Oscar Santa Maria
was given the order,
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if it isn't ours, shoot it down.
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(jet engine roaring)
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- [Narrator] Santa Maria
says the object accelerated
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to more than 1200 miles per hour
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and suddenly stopped in midair.
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- And every time he tries
to get close to the object,
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what happens?
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The object moves away
he can't get close.
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(air whooshing)
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- [Narrator] Santa Maria says
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he fired off round after round,
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but the object appeared
to absorb the fire
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with no visible damage.
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- No obvious
scientific propulsion,
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no engine, no
exhaust, no jet plume
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or anything else that you
would normally associate
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with a traditional aircraft.
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- [Narrator] The
smooth orb-like object
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which outmaneuvered
Santa Maria's fighter jet
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is displaying two of
the five observables
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identified by Elizondo
as being common to UFOs.
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Instantaneous acceleration,
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the ability to immediately
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achieve high speeds,
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and anti-gravity,
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the ability to fly without
apparent propulsion or lift.
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(static crackling)
(upbeat music)
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- [Lue] A lot of what they're
telling me does reaffirm
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information we've already had.
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Particularly on the
five observables
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continue to be reinforced
during my engagement down here.
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So that for me is encouraging
because it shows that
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we're on the right track.
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- [Narrator] After
he returned to base,
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Santa Maria created this sketch
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which shows an object that
by all known laws of physics
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should not be able to
fly or absorb gunfire.
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- [Narrator] Documents
show a confidential source
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inside the Peruvian Air Force
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reported the incident to
the US Embassy in Lima,
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which notified the Pentagon.
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Why?
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One theory is that the object
Santa Maria saw is not alien,
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but American made.
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Bill Scott is an expert
on top secret aircraft
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and was an editor
at Aviation Week.
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He believes the object could
be related to a US effort
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to spy on the Soviet
presence in Peru.
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- We had some satellite
surveillance, of course,
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but you can fly some kind of
reconnaissance aircraft over,
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get some pretty solid pictures,
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that's even better.
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- [Narrator] In 1980, the Cold
War was burning hot again,
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and the Soviet made Sukhoi SU 22
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that Oscar Santa
Maria was flying
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was one of the most
advanced aircraft
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ever delivered to South America.
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Did the US send some kind of
advanced surveillance craft
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to monitor the Peruvian Air
Force's new capabilities?
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Some of the vehicles
that they might use,
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drones of some sort,
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they didn't care
if they were seen.
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They wanted not only, let's
say the South American country,
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but they also wanted
the sponsor, the Soviet.
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So know we're keeping
an eye on you.
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- [Narrator] Five years earlier
in Vietnam,
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the US using a drone called
the Ryan 147 Lightning Bug.
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- They used Ryan 147 for a
number of reconnaissance roles.
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So they were just,
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jet powered, rail launched,
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they put cameras on them
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and eventually over the years
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they would put a lot of
electronics on there.
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(air whooshing)
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- [Narrator] Could what Santa
Maria saw
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have been an advanced version
of the Ryan 147?
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- I don't think that
would be any of these
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Lightning Bug drones,
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because they were a lot
more aircraft-like.
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They had wings on them,
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long fuselages,
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typically had an
under chin inlet.
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- [Narrator] What was
the bizarre object
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that was allegedly impervious
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to Oscar Santa Maria's
machine gunfire.
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And can Lue Elizondo
connect the dots
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to a sighting 40 years later
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seen and this never
before released video?
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(electronics humming)
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(static crackling)
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Coming up on Unidentified.
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- I saw this bright light,
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and I was like
okay, what is this?
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I took out my phone
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and when I zoomed,
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I got to see this
circular shape.
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- What's the likelihood
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that this could be a
traditional aircraft,
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scale of 1-10?
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- Zero?
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(static crackling)
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- I think each individual
is a critical piece
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to this jigsaw puzzle.
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If it's not for their testimony,
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then we're missing
a critical piece.
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Ultimately, you can't
put together a puzzle
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unless you have all the pieces.
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(intriguing music)
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
has just met with a pilot
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who says he engaged
in midair showdown
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with a UFO in
southern Peru in 1980.
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- [Narrator] One theory
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is that the object was the
US reconnaissance drone,
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but the primitive
drones at that time
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don't match the pilots
description of what he saw.
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- [Photographer] I think
he's gonna be wearing
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just black shirt.
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- [Man] Yeah.
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- [Narrator] And now
a commercial pilot
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has come forward with a
similar sighting in 2019.
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- [Crew] We're just gonna mic
you up over here really quick.
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- [Narrator] He's asked
not to be identified.
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- [Lue] I wanna
thank you very much
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for having the courage
to come forward.
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- [Pilot] Thank you.
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- In this particular case,
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this individual wants to keep
his identity protected because
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he was afraid he
may lose his job.
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First of all, what
kind of pilot are you?
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What do you fly?
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- [Narrator] The pilot
has flown domestic
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and international flights
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for the past 11 years.
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- [Narrator] At about 2 am,
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his Airbus A320 is
flying at 35,000 feet,
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approximately 150 miles
off the coast of Chile.
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- [Narrator] But this time
he sees a bright white orb
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tracking the plane to the west.
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- I would love to
see that video.
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- The pilot plays the
video for Elizondo.
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It appears to show an orb
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inside another orb.
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- [Narrator] The pilot pans
to the radar screen
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to record his exact location.
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- [Lue] I'm glad he
did that, that's smart.
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- How long did you
observe this light
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outside the cockpit window.
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- Wow, okay.
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- What you filmed there,
it's a real object.
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Now I don't know what it is.
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But you have,
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that's something that
actually occurred.
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Now, maybe it has a
terrestrial explanation,
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maybe it doesn't,
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but one thing we do
know is that is real,
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whatever that is.
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- [Narrator] But what was it?
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The pilot shows a video
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that appears to be
of the same object
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taken two days earlier
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and nearly 2000 miles away
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over Peru's largest airport.
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(traffic humming)
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- [Narrator] The
Peruvian Air Force
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investigated the incident,
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concluding they were
unable to identify the orbs
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seen over the airport.
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- That is a pretty
bizarre looking craft.
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That isn't like
anything that we have.
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- [Narrator] But one theory
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may provide a
simple explanation.
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Over the past decade,
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Google has launched a fleet
of high altitude balloons
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to provide Internet access to
remote areas around the world
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called Project Loon.
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These large white balloons
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fly above Peru as
high as 65,000 feet
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and could have floated
from Peru to Chile.
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- [Lu] So if this was, let's
say, one of these balloons,
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would you have been
made aware of it
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by a ATC?
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'Cause their flight
safety issue?
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- [Pilot] Of course, yeah.
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- At this point is too early
to tell if what the pilot saw
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is indeed the same
objects ever reported
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over the Lima airport
just days prior.
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There are some people that
are absolutely confident
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it was a Google balloon.
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There's other people said
there was no Google balloons
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in that area.
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So I think it's too
premature to tell.
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- [Narrator] The cellphone
video makes it difficult to tell
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if the object displays any
of the five observables
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common to UFOs.
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So Elizondo
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sends it to a retired Marine
Lieutenant Colonel Chris Cook,
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an aviation consultant,
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and former top gun pilot.
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- Hey there, Chris.
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- Hey Lue, how are you?
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- I'm doing pretty good.
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- [Narrator] Elizondo
wants to know
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if the strange
object in the video
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looks like anything
Cook has seen before.
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- Can an aircraft commercial
or military look like that
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from far away?
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Typically you would see
navigation lights, right?
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- One of the things that we
do when we're at altitude,
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especially flying out in
the middle of nowhere,
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if you do spot another aircraft,
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determining lights or
the landing lights on,
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it's kinda like a courtesy.
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But I've never seen
anything like that
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where it's just
one spherical light
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outside of maybe
a bright planet.
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- [Narrator] Elizondo
wants to explore the theory
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that the object might
be a Google balloon.
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- I've heard of these things.
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But why would a balloon be
illuminated that brightly
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at that altitude?
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And if it is a balloon,
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then you would expect there to
be some closure on it, right?
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Because it should be stationary.
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It's a little baffling.
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- One of the statements the
pilot made to me is that
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he had the impression that
there was this oscillation.
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Do you have any idea at all
what might give the appearance
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of some sort of oscillation?
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Are there aircraft that will
pivot back and forth or...
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- Not in my experience.
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I have not ever witnessed
any type of aircraft
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at that altitude
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that have those characteristics
that you just explained.
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- [Narrator] But does it show
any of the five observables?
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- When I look at
these incidents,
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I'm not just looking at video,
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I'm comparing it to
the five observables.
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Extreme acceleration and
hypersonic velocities
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and no control surface
flight surfaces,
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no obvious means of
thrust or propulsion.
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Is there anything in
that video that you see
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that you say, "ah hah,
366
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that's an unusual
performance characteristic"?
367
00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:21,967
- This look like
nothing I've ever seen.
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00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:23,200
- What's the likelihood
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that this could be a
traditional aircraft?
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Scale of 1-10.
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- Ah, zero.
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- Wow.
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- [Narrator] To cook,
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the object clearly isn't
a traditional aircraft.
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But what is it?
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- In this particular case,
there's information out there
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that does not neatly fit within
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the categories of
information we have.
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Doesn't mean it's
not relevant, no.
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We have to take
all the data point.
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Maybe it'll make sense,
382
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maybe there's more
than five observables.
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(soft music)
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- [Narrator] The
Lima airport incident
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is just one of dozens of UFOs
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the Peruvian Air
Force has investigated
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and then released their
findings to the public.
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Is a level of transparency
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Elizondo thinks the
US can learn from.
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- When you look at a map
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and you remove all
those national lines,
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we're all connected.
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We're all of Americans.
And at the end of the day,
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it's really incumbent
upon all of us
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to protect this hemisphere
from anything and everything.
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- [Narrator] It's the
Peruvian Air Force's
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Centennial conference
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and Elizondo is invited to
speak to a group of Airmen.
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- There are things
in our airspace
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that are indeed unidentified
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and they are real.
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00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:30,367
We are observing
vehicles or objects
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that have no control
surfaces, no wings,
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and no visible
form of propulsion.
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My only purpose
really for being here
406
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is not to make you believe,
407
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,934
is to ask you to report.
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00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:44,367
- [Narrator] When word
of Elizando's talk
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reaches the highest office,
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he's called to a meeting with
the head of the Air Force.
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- [Lue] General Garcia
is responsible for
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protecting the
airspace over Peru.
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That includes every mission
from counter-terrorism,
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to counter-narcotics,
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to surveillance.
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He has a huge responsibility
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and ultimately, the
buck stops with him.
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So this is for me a
very important meeting.
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- [Narrator] It's a major
step in Elizondo's quest
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to exchange information
with military leaders here.
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General I'm coming here to you
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as a citizen of
the United States
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and a citizen of the world.
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My ultimate goal
for meeting with you
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is simply to emphasize
our willingness
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to work with Peru
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in a cooperative relationship.
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00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:36,033
- I would like to
congratulation to you
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because you are
doing great work.
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You will have the opportunity
to talk with another officers.
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00:21:01,533 --> 00:21:02,900
- [Narrator] The
general and Elizondo
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discuss how the US and Peru
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can jointly investigate
unidentified aerial phenomena
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and how to share their findings.
435
00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:11,900
- I'm very pleased
that you agree
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that this should
be an international
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cooperative effort.
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- Si.
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00:21:19,734 --> 00:21:20,433
- Thanks very much again.
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00:21:20,567 --> 00:21:22,266
- Thank you so much.
441
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,233
- Thank you.
- Mucho gusto.
442
00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:24,767
- Gracias.
- Mucho gusto.
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- [Narrator] But for
now, for Elizondo
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the origins of the glowing
orbs is still a mystery.
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Could there be a clue in a
series of unusual orb sightings
446
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spanning generations?
447
00:21:36,967 --> 00:21:38,500
He's on his way to find out.
448
00:21:38,633 --> 00:21:39,433
(static crackling)
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Coming up on Unidentified.
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- Friends, neighbors,
family members
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see these things on a
regular routine basis
452
00:21:46,567 --> 00:21:49,400
and they go back millennia
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in oral tradition
talking about orbs
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flying across their land.
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00:21:53,066 --> 00:21:55,033
(static crackling)
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sic)
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While we were in AATIP,
we cast a very wide net
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we had some information
pertaining to Latin America.
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00:22:07,633 --> 00:22:10,233
But that information
was provided to us
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via other individuals.
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- [Narrator] Lue Elizondo was
traveling from Peru to Argentina
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to investigate a series of UFO
sightings in South America.
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Here in Patagonia,
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people had been reporting
similar lights in the sky
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for centuries.
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Local residents so they
typically look like firing orbs.
467
00:22:31,567 --> 00:22:34,433
(soft piano music)
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(air whooshing)
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- [Narrator] Recently new
lights have appeared in the sky
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further down the road.
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Andrea Morales explains.
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- What did you think
when you saw this light?
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- [Narrator] Could
these spinning lights
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be the same objects
seen over Chile.
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Elizondo uncovers
an interesting lead.
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According to eyewitnesses, the
appearance of spinning lights
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coincided with a foreign
object of a different kind.
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(calm music)
479
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- I was very
surprised to hear that
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there is a highly sophisticated
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Chinese satellite ground station
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literally plopped in
the middle of nowhere
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next the town of Las Lajas.
484
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The question is, what in
the hell is it doing here?
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(static crackling)
(people clapping)
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00:24:01,934 --> 00:24:03,734
- China spent $50 million
487
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to build the 16-story antenna
and Mission Control facility.
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The compound is 40 minutes
from the nearest town
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and secured behind an
eight-foot barbed wire fence.
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It stated purpose
491
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to help the Chinese
land a spacecraft
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on the far side of the moon.
493
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,734
- China is an
emerging superpower.
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If you're trying to
gather telemetry,
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00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,633
say, over the
southern hemisphere,
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you need a ground station
with line of sight.
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So as they become
more active in space,
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they need footholds
in parts of the region
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and parts of the world that
they didn't have in the past.
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- The local police
have informed us
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that they're not even
allowed on the property
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or even near it.
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The only involvement they had
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was initially when it was being
built during construction.
505
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- [Narrator] US officials
believe the 450 ton antenna
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could be used to spy
on other countries'
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satellite communications.
508
00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:57,800
But is it connected
to the appearance
509
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of the spinning lights
seen by locals?
510
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Could the lights be
advanced surveillance craft
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sent by the Americans to
keep tabs on the Chinese
512
00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:07,133
or are the Chinese the ones
513
00:25:07,266 --> 00:25:08,967
watching the new
lights in the sky?
514
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:12,800
- Why is there a Chinese
grond station here?
515
00:25:12,934 --> 00:25:14,967
Why is everybody so
secretive about it?
516
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,300
They have an overt mission
517
00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:18,400
then they have another
mission apparently.
518
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,867
- [Narrator] For Elizondo,
the mystery deepens
519
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,467
with reports of similar orbs
see nearby in Buenos Aires
520
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,200
decades earlier.
521
00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:30,133
Today, he's on his
way to investigate.
522
00:25:30,266 --> 00:25:32,033
- [Chris] What Lue's
doing on these trips
523
00:25:32,166 --> 00:25:34,967
is consistent with what he
did in the Defense Department.
524
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:40,500
Anything we can do to help
establish the validity of this
525
00:25:40,633 --> 00:25:44,967
so that people have permission
to engage on the topic,
526
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:48,200
move forward to get scientific
and national security answers
527
00:25:48,333 --> 00:25:50,200
contributes to that effort.
528
00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:53,200
- Elizondo is hoping to
get answers from two pilots
529
00:25:53,333 --> 00:25:54,800
who had one of South America's
530
00:25:54,934 --> 00:25:57,200
most mysterious UFO sightings.
531
00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:00,433
I'm here to have a meeting
with commander Hector Flores
532
00:26:00,567 --> 00:26:02,033
and his co pilot.
533
00:26:02,166 --> 00:26:04,333
He was a commander in the
National Guard
534
00:26:04,467 --> 00:26:05,767
here in Argentina.
535
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:07,700
And apparently he
and his co pilot
536
00:26:07,834 --> 00:26:09,433
were witness to a
very interesting event
537
00:26:09,567 --> 00:26:13,867
which included potentially
some of engagement with a UAP.
538
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,700
Well, hopefully we'll be
able to see if there's any
539
00:26:15,834 --> 00:26:17,500
similarities to some of
the other engagements
540
00:26:17,633 --> 00:26:19,333
we've already talked
to other people about.
541
00:26:19,467 --> 00:26:20,500
(static crackling)
542
00:26:20,633 --> 00:26:21,600
- [Narrator] Coming
up on Unidentified.
543
00:26:21,734 --> 00:26:24,033
- [Lue] Are 100% sure
544
00:26:24,166 --> 00:26:27,100
that all of those you
have 100% answer on.
545
00:26:27,233 --> 00:26:28,333
- Misperceptions
546
00:26:28,467 --> 00:26:31,033
is 99.9% of the cases.
547
00:26:31,166 --> 00:26:33,500
- You can close 100%
of your investigations
548
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:36,033
to 100% of your satisfaction,
but what does that mean?
549
00:26:36,166 --> 00:26:37,934
I believe he's closed them all.
550
00:26:38,066 --> 00:26:39,700
I'm not sure he solved them all.
551
00:26:39,834 --> 00:26:44,800
(static rattling)
552
00:26:44,934 --> 00:26:47,934
(traffic rumbles)
553
00:26:48,066 --> 00:26:50,300
- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
is in Argentina
554
00:26:50,433 --> 00:26:52,567
on a mission to investigate
multiple sightings
555
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:55,266
of strange orbs
across South America.
556
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:55,800
- [Lue] Señor.
557
00:26:55,934 --> 00:26:56,667
- Mucho gusto.
558
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,500
- Igual,igual.
559
00:26:58,633 --> 00:26:59,734
- Jorge, mucho gusto.
560
00:26:59,867 --> 00:27:01,333
- [Narrator] He's meeting
with two pilots
561
00:27:01,467 --> 00:27:03,633
whose bizarre 1972 encounter
562
00:27:03,767 --> 00:27:05,800
had been kept
secret for 40 years.
563
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:08,800
- [Lue] I'm here this
afternoon to meet
564
00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:11,400
with Hector Flores
and his copilot.
565
00:27:13,333 --> 00:27:16,133
They were serving under a
dictatorship here in Argentina.
566
00:27:17,333 --> 00:27:19,300
These were tumultuous
times for Latin America
567
00:27:19,433 --> 00:27:20,934
and Argentina in particular.
568
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,133
- [Narrator] A military
junta had taken over
569
00:27:24,266 --> 00:27:25,633
and had its sight set
on becoming
570
00:27:25,767 --> 00:27:27,166
the region's super power.
571
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:42,467
- [Narrator] National guard
pilot, Hector Flores
572
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,200
and Jorge Torrecilla were
on a routine training flight
573
00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:46,467
with a student
574
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,433
when they witnessed
something extraordinary.
575
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,200
- [Narrator] The pilots say a
large red and blue orb
576
00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:06,300
suddenly appeared
over their plane.
577
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:51,867
- They're describing
characteristics
578
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,533
that we haven't yet seen,
or at least didn't come
579
00:28:54,667 --> 00:28:58,100
through ATIP channels
in North America.
580
00:28:58,233 --> 00:28:59,767
Particularly those
that really tend
581
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:01,934
to loiter for a long time.
582
00:29:03,967 --> 00:29:06,367
Who's to say that there's
only five observables.
583
00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:12,834
- [Narrator] The two men created
this drawing of the object,
584
00:29:12,967 --> 00:29:15,266
but when their report
reached base officials,
585
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,266
they were ordered to keep silent
586
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,266
and the truth about what
happened was buried.
587
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,767
- [Jorge] Gracias amigo.
588
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,266
- [Lue] we're headed
to the Condor building,
589
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
the nerve center of the air
force here for this country.
590
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,100
- [Narrator] Elizando
has heard answers
591
00:29:32,233 --> 00:29:35,633
to what happened back in
1972 may be found here,
592
00:29:35,767 --> 00:29:38,266
in Argentina's
official UFO program.
593
00:29:39,633 --> 00:29:42,400
Colonel Rubin Lianza
heads the Air Force unit.
594
00:29:44,266 --> 00:29:46,467
- [Rubin] We are neither
debunkers nor believers,
595
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,000
since we are not chasing the
paranormal nor are we afraid
596
00:29:50,133 --> 00:29:52,600
of encountering
something inexplicable.
597
00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:56,767
- [Narrator] He says the 1972
incident can be explained
598
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,100
by an event that
happened the same night.
599
00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:01,500
(engines roar)
600
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,667
On November 2nd, Argentina's
junta launched a rocket
601
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,333
into the upper atmosphere.
602
00:30:06,467 --> 00:30:08,934
It was part of a lead up
to a secret missile program
603
00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:12,433
and the pilot's testimony was
sealed in a classified report.
604
00:30:13,734 --> 00:30:16,433
- And this is the
unclassified file.
605
00:30:16,567 --> 00:30:21,533
They said, "We saw the object,
at heading azimuth 320."
606
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,767
That is exactly northwest.
607
00:30:24,967 --> 00:30:28,600
And up to 25 degrees
above the horizon.
608
00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:31,667
It is plenty coincident
with the only sector
609
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,500
of the sky where
that cLued should be.
610
00:30:34,633 --> 00:30:36,967
- [Narrator] The launch
left a cLued of barium gas
611
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:40,100
that created a strange
purple haze in the sky.
612
00:30:40,233 --> 00:30:42,834
- You can see the deployment
of the barium cLued here,
613
00:30:42,967 --> 00:30:46,800
falling down, as it ionizes
the gas on top of it.
614
00:30:46,934 --> 00:30:50,934
Ionized gas is the red one,
non-ionized gas is the blue one.
615
00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:55,266
And as it falls, there is a
purple belt in the center.
616
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000
- [Narrator] Like many UFO
stories in South America,
617
00:30:59,133 --> 00:31:02,333
this case was wrapped
up in military secrets.
618
00:31:02,467 --> 00:31:06,200
It often takes time, but Lianza
says he's found explanations
619
00:31:06,333 --> 00:31:08,734
for every case that's
come across his desk.
620
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,066
- Right.
621
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,233
Are you hundred percent
sure that all of those,
622
00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:15,500
you have a hundred
percent answer on?
623
00:31:15,633 --> 00:31:20,066
- Misperceptions is
99.9% of the cases.
624
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,500
- [Narrator] Lianza's
program may be similar
625
00:31:21,633 --> 00:31:23,533
to Elizando's Pentagon unit.
626
00:31:23,667 --> 00:31:26,500
- And is this an Argentine
capability you have here?
627
00:31:26,633 --> 00:31:27,567
- [Narrator] But
their conclusions
628
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,233
could not be more different.
629
00:31:29,367 --> 00:31:31,734
- We're constantly looking
for new data, new data points.
630
00:31:31,867 --> 00:31:33,834
Is there a recommendation
you would have?
631
00:31:33,967 --> 00:31:35,533
- I don't think with
all due respect,
632
00:31:35,667 --> 00:31:38,567
you're going to find the
Holy Grail of UFO evidence,
633
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:41,233
not even in an X-files
that are in a drawer
634
00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:43,500
in the armed forces
of South America.
635
00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:45,900
The fact that the case is
not solved is not a guarantee
636
00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:49,333
of paranormal
explanations for them.
637
00:31:49,467 --> 00:31:52,500
You know, all crafts have
to dump the remaining fuel.
638
00:31:52,633 --> 00:31:53,567
- [Lue] Right, bleed it out.
639
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:54,900
- Bleed it out.
640
00:31:55,033 --> 00:31:57,400
Think the approach
has to be changed
641
00:31:57,533 --> 00:32:01,867
and it has to be changed
towards the scientific method.
642
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,400
- [Lue] Your approach,
it makes sense.
643
00:32:05,533 --> 00:32:07,400
It's logical, it's unbiased.
644
00:32:07,533 --> 00:32:09,734
- [Rubin] If you ever talk
to the independent witnesses,
645
00:32:09,867 --> 00:32:12,266
I will appreciate if you
tell the same words to them,
646
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,367
because they think that I'm
covering up things, covering up.
647
00:32:17,533 --> 00:32:18,633
- [Lue] You can close
a hundred percent
648
00:32:18,767 --> 00:32:20,567
of your investigations
to a hundred percent
649
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,266
of your satisfaction,
but what does that mean?
650
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,133
I believe he's closed them all.
651
00:32:24,266 --> 00:32:25,734
I'm not sure he solved them all.
652
00:32:25,867 --> 00:32:26,567
Thank you again.
653
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,133
- [Rubin] Thank you.
654
00:32:28,266 --> 00:32:30,567
- [Narrator] Coming
up on Unidentified.
655
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,800
Is there more to South
America's UFO story
656
00:32:32,934 --> 00:32:34,066
than meets the eye?
657
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800
- [Mark] A number of
the larger UFO groups
658
00:32:36,934 --> 00:32:40,400
were actually set up to
provide sort of eyes on the sky
659
00:32:40,533 --> 00:32:42,934
for the American
intelligence services.
660
00:32:43,066 --> 00:32:45,033
(dramatic music)
661
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,433
- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
is in South America
662
00:32:52,567 --> 00:32:55,767
to investigate a rash of
orb-shaped UFO sightings,
663
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:59,300
and learn what they can reveal
about the UFO phenomenon.
664
00:32:59,433 --> 00:33:01,033
Elizando's just
met with the head
665
00:33:01,166 --> 00:33:04,400
of Argentina's UFO
investigation agency.
666
00:33:04,533 --> 00:33:06,900
The colonel claims that all
of the countries thousands
667
00:33:07,033 --> 00:33:09,734
of sightings can be identified.
668
00:33:09,867 --> 00:33:12,667
- [Lue] Are you hundred
percent sure that all
669
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,400
of those you have a
hundred percent answer on?
670
00:33:15,533 --> 00:33:19,667
- Misperceptions, it's
99.9% of the cases.
671
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,066
- [Narrator] Elizando
wants to know
672
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,867
what other governments
here can reveal about UFOs.
673
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,333
He's in Uruguay at the General
Artigas Air Force base,
674
00:33:28,467 --> 00:33:31,166
home to the longest-running
official UFO program
675
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,667
in Latin America,
dating to the 1970s.
676
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,500
- This is an effort that
has been going on now
677
00:33:37,633 --> 00:33:39,333
for a better part of 40 years,
678
00:33:39,467 --> 00:33:41,633
and actually tends to
be a gold standard.
679
00:33:43,367 --> 00:33:44,867
- [Narrator] Colonel
Ariel Sanchez
680
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,667
and Captain Marcos
Temesio run the program
681
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,066
and have agreed to
share their secrets.
682
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,700
-[Lue] Buenos dia.
683
00:33:51,834 --> 00:33:53,600
Me llamo Luis Elizando.
684
00:33:53,734 --> 00:33:55,700
Gracias amigo.
(gate squeaks)
685
00:33:58,300 --> 00:33:59,000
- Great to see you.
- Hi, how are you?
686
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:00,066
Great to see you too.
687
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,767
- Hey great, absolutely,
688
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:03,834
thank you very much
for having us here.
689
00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:24,800
- [Narrator] Elizando asks
690
00:34:24,934 --> 00:34:34,900
if there have been
any orb sightings.
691
00:34:39,433 --> 00:34:41,133
- [Narrator] Colonel
Sanchez briefs Elizando
692
00:34:41,266 --> 00:34:44,767
on a case from 2011, where
a bright sphere was seen
693
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,967
over Montevideo and
captured on video.
694
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,633
The object has never
been identified.
695
00:34:50,767 --> 00:34:52,300
- During my time in
the US government,
696
00:34:52,433 --> 00:34:54,734
I realized very
quickly, it's imperative
697
00:34:54,867 --> 00:34:56,800
that you have partnerships
and relationships
698
00:34:56,934 --> 00:34:58,066
with other countries.
699
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,900
The more people
that we can talk to
700
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,867
and get more perspectives
that we can gain,
701
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,633
the better off we're gonna be.
702
00:35:04,767 --> 00:35:06,033
- [Narrator] Following
the presentation,
703
00:35:06,166 --> 00:35:08,333
Elizando sits down
with Colonel Sanchez
704
00:35:08,467 --> 00:35:10,967
and Captain Temesio,
who drop a bombshell
705
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,567
on why they believe the
program was created.
706
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,467
- That for me was a
drop-the-mic moment.
707
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,133
You mean to tell me that
the longest-standing
708
00:35:54,266 --> 00:35:57,700
official UFO
investigative agency
709
00:35:57,834 --> 00:36:01,033
in the Latin American
hemisphere was allegedly created
710
00:36:01,166 --> 00:36:03,533
at the behest of the US
government at the time.
711
00:36:04,867 --> 00:36:05,667
What?
712
00:36:07,667 --> 00:36:09,033
- [Narrator] Elizando
sees a connection
713
00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:13,266
to America's legendary UFO
program, Project Blue Book.
714
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,700
- So it's okay for
you, US government,
715
00:36:14,834 --> 00:36:16,867
to go down to Latin
America and say,
716
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,734
"We're gonna take
our Project Blue Book
717
00:36:18,867 --> 00:36:22,367
and all the methodologies
that we use, investigative,
718
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:23,367
we're gonna give
you the handbook
719
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:24,900
and you're gonna use that,
720
00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:27,433
and you're gonna establish
your own program?"
721
00:36:27,567 --> 00:36:29,934
- [Narrator] Project Blue Book
was a series of UFO studies
722
00:36:30,066 --> 00:36:32,433
begun by the Air Force in 1952,
723
00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:35,266
in response to a rash
of UFO sightings.
724
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,900
For the next 17 years,
725
00:36:37,033 --> 00:36:39,433
Blue Book studied
over 12,000 sightings
726
00:36:39,567 --> 00:36:43,400
and found 701 cases that
could not be explained.
727
00:36:43,533 --> 00:36:45,266
And the Air Force
officially shut down
728
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,800
Project Blue Book in 1969.
729
00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:51,533
But has Elizando
discovered the US continued
730
00:36:51,667 --> 00:36:55,200
to secretly study UFOs with
the help of other countries?
731
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:56,433
- The fact that we asked Uruguay
732
00:36:56,567 --> 00:36:58,867
to establish a program
is absolutely indicative
733
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,934
that we thought it was
interesting as well on our end,
734
00:37:01,066 --> 00:37:02,433
that we should be
looking at these things.
735
00:37:02,567 --> 00:37:03,934
You think we're gonna go
ahead and tell a country
736
00:37:04,066 --> 00:37:06,133
to do something, but we're not
going to look at it ourselves
737
00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:07,333
or want their information?
738
00:37:07,467 --> 00:37:09,100
Come on, that's not
the way it works.
739
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:13,600
- As part of the
ongoing Cold War,
740
00:37:13,734 --> 00:37:16,333
South America just became
an intense flashpoint.
741
00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:18,934
It was feared that
the Soviet Bloc could
742
00:37:19,066 --> 00:37:23,166
then get a foothold on
the American continent.
743
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,467
- [Narrator] Researchers
like Mark Pilkington believe
744
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,266
the US may have quietly
helped set up UFO programs
745
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,433
around the world, not as
a way to look for aliens,
746
00:37:31,567 --> 00:37:33,433
but to monitor our enemies.
747
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,600
- It's long been
suggested that a number
748
00:37:36,734 --> 00:37:40,166
of the larger UFO groups
were actually set up
749
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:42,834
to provide, sort
of, eyes on the sky,
750
00:37:42,967 --> 00:37:44,600
for the intelligence services.
751
00:37:44,734 --> 00:37:47,600
- [Christopher] Our government
relies heavily on our allies
752
00:37:47,734 --> 00:37:50,266
for intelligence collection
around the world.
753
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,333
So it doesn't
surprise me to hear
754
00:37:52,467 --> 00:37:55,100
that they would be encouraging
the Uruguayan government
755
00:37:55,233 --> 00:37:57,800
to collect more
information and assuming
756
00:37:57,934 --> 00:37:59,600
that it would be shared with us.
757
00:37:59,734 --> 00:38:01,900
- [Narrator] Did the US
take it even further,
758
00:38:02,033 --> 00:38:05,500
actively encouraging UFO
sightings to distract attention
759
00:38:05,633 --> 00:38:07,734
from covert operations
in the region?
760
00:38:07,867 --> 00:38:10,867
- Ideas of UFOs and
extraterrestrial visitations
761
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400
have been eagerly
adopted over past decades
762
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:18,166
all over South America, and
we might ask to what extent
763
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:21,667
those ideas were planted
as part of disinformation
764
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,900
or clandestine
intelligence operations.
765
00:38:25,033 --> 00:38:27,567
- [Narrator] But even if
the US had covert motives,
766
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:29,900
how can that explain the
thousands of sightings
767
00:38:30,033 --> 00:38:32,500
across South America,
going back decades?
768
00:38:33,867 --> 00:38:35,667
Coming up on "Unidentified."
769
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,166
- [Producer] Do you
believe they're real?
770
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:40,000
- You know what, um...
771
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,767
(dramatic music)
772
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:49,533
)
773
00:38:51,233 --> 00:38:54,300
- [Lue] I believe every time we
engage a foreign partner
774
00:38:54,433 --> 00:38:58,300
on this topic it helps us
in our ultimate endeavor
775
00:38:58,433 --> 00:39:01,300
for international
cooperation on this.
776
00:39:01,433 --> 00:39:03,033
- [Narrator] Lue Elizando
has traveled thousands
777
00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:05,800
of miles across an
entire continent,
778
00:39:05,934 --> 00:39:07,467
trying to unravel the truth
779
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,333
about South America's
thousands of UFO sightings.
780
00:39:10,467 --> 00:39:13,200
- [Lue] My motivation for going
down to South America was,
781
00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:15,266
I wanted to know
what they've learned.
782
00:39:16,667 --> 00:39:18,533
- [Narrator] He's spoken
to several eye witnesses
783
00:39:18,667 --> 00:39:21,800
with incredible stories of
orb-shaped UFO encounters.
784
00:39:27,133 --> 00:39:29,200
- [Narrator] Some suggest the
sightings can be explained
785
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:31,467
by US intelligence
tracking the activities
786
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,367
of adversaries in the region.
787
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,800
- We shouldn't be at
all surprised to find
788
00:39:35,934 --> 00:39:40,166
that those ideas were planted
as part of disinformation.
789
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,467
- [Narrator] Others by
high tech explanations.
790
00:39:48,433 --> 00:39:49,834
- [Narrator] But other
sightings are not
791
00:39:49,967 --> 00:39:51,200
so easily identified.
792
00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:52,200
- [Christopher]
Anywhere in the world
793
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:54,200
we investigate this phenomenon,
794
00:39:54,333 --> 00:39:57,533
we're gonna find
most reports have
795
00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:00,300
some sort of
conventional explanation.
796
00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:03,867
What's interesting are
the reports that don't,
797
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,734
that we can't explain away.
798
00:40:07,166 --> 00:40:08,967
- [Narrator] Like the orb
that pilot Oscar Santa Maria
799
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,500
shot at over Peru in 1980.
800
00:40:11,633 --> 00:40:13,533
- No obvious signs
of propulsion,
801
00:40:13,667 --> 00:40:15,333
no engine, no exhaust,
802
00:40:15,467 --> 00:40:17,200
no jet plume or anything else
803
00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:18,633
that you would
normally associate
804
00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:20,300
with a traditional aircraft.
805
00:40:26,266 --> 00:40:27,967
- [Narrator] And what can
account for the glowing orbs
806
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,533
that the Mapuche people
of Patagonia have seen
807
00:40:30,667 --> 00:40:35,000
in the sky for centuries, and
a recent wave of sightings.
808
00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:37,500
- [Lue] Could they be some
sort of Google balloon used
809
00:40:37,633 --> 00:40:41,400
to provide telecommunications
to remote areas of Patagonia?
810
00:40:42,934 --> 00:40:44,133
But then again, you know,
811
00:40:44,266 --> 00:40:46,033
Google balloons don't
make right angles
812
00:40:46,166 --> 00:40:49,233
and fly over the horizon
in the blink of an eye.
813
00:40:50,633 --> 00:40:53,934
I'm just as perplexed now
than I was before I went down.
814
00:40:55,667 --> 00:40:56,967
- [Narrator] Do
these incidents show
815
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,166
that UFOs have an
unusually strong interest
816
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,934
in South America?
817
00:41:01,066 --> 00:41:03,533
Or are the people of
South America more willing
818
00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:05,033
to believe in them?
819
00:41:05,166 --> 00:41:06,700
- [Christopher]
Throughout South America,
820
00:41:06,834 --> 00:41:09,700
the mainstream media
provides greater coverage
821
00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:12,233
to incidents that
occur in those nations.
822
00:41:12,367 --> 00:41:16,133
So this is more openly
accepted and discussed.
823
00:41:18,567 --> 00:41:20,100
- [Narrator] For
Elizando and his team,
824
00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:23,767
one sighting maybe an
anomaly, two a coincidence,
825
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,600
but multiple sightings
across several countries
826
00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:30,600
and hundreds of years is a
pattern that can not be ignored.
827
00:41:30,734 --> 00:41:33,400
- [Christopher] There've been
enough extraordinary sightings
828
00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:36,600
that were corroborated
by many witnesses
829
00:41:36,734 --> 00:41:40,100
and fighter aircraft, that
there is a category there,
830
00:41:40,233 --> 00:41:42,100
I would say, that
seems to correspond
831
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:46,033
to what our Navy has
revealed and spoken about.
832
00:41:47,233 --> 00:41:49,300
- [Lue] This area may
indeed be a hotspot.
833
00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:52,734
- [Christopher] There has
been a lot of activity there,
834
00:41:52,867 --> 00:41:55,600
and it answers one
of the big questions
835
00:41:55,734 --> 00:41:59,934
that people often have is,
is this a US only phenomenon?
836
00:42:00,133 --> 00:42:02,200
The answer emphatically is no.
837
00:42:05,066 --> 00:42:06,767
- [Narrator] Elizando says
he'll continue his search
838
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:09,967
for answers wherever
it leads him.
839
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,600
- A lot of what they're
telling me does reaffirm
840
00:42:13,734 --> 00:42:15,600
information we've already had.
841
00:42:16,967 --> 00:42:18,600
So that for me is
encouraging because it shows
842
00:42:18,734 --> 00:42:20,667
that we're on the right path.
843
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,967
I think you need to go into
this neither as a believer
844
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,500
or a disbeliever, just
collecting the facts.
845
00:42:26,633 --> 00:42:28,000
And that's hard to do.
846
00:42:28,133 --> 00:42:29,767
That's really hard to do,
especially when you come
847
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:31,000
from a background like I have
848
00:42:31,133 --> 00:42:33,400
where you've seen
a lot of things.
849
00:42:34,467 --> 00:42:36,200
Yeah, it's really tough.
850
00:42:41,967 --> 00:42:46,467
- You know what,
with all due respect,
851
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,100
I'm not gonna answer
that question.
852
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:51,433
What impacted me the
most about my trip
853
00:42:51,567 --> 00:42:53,834
to South America
was the realization
854
00:42:53,967 --> 00:42:56,600
that they want to cooperate
with the United States.
855
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Because it is a
global phenomenon,
856
00:42:59,133 --> 00:43:00,834
it requires a global discussion.
857
00:43:02,367 --> 00:43:04,834
Knowing more about the UAP
phenomenon may solve some
858
00:43:04,967 --> 00:43:06,000
of the world's problems,
859
00:43:06,133 --> 00:43:07,400
but it also may
create more problems.
860
00:43:07,533 --> 00:43:09,200
I think it's too early to tell.
861
00:43:09,333 --> 00:43:10,700
But at the end of the day,
it doesn't really matter,
862
00:43:10,834 --> 00:43:13,600
'cause whatever the truth is,
that's what we need to find.
863
00:43:14,834 --> 00:43:16,367
Leaving our heads
buried in the sands
864
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,000
is just avoiding the inevitable.
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